Planning and Zoning Commission - Special Meeting

e to the city of Kingman Planning and Zoning commission call the order call the order and roll call chair Goss present commissioner sixa pres commissioner Noble here commissioner McCoy here commissioner swap here commissioner Waters present and then commissioner sarkeesian is excused thank you let's stand for the Pledge of Allegiance I ALG to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liy and justice for all thank you you can all be seated shut it off all right we are going to start with the consideration of public comments those wishing to address the commission should fill out request forms in advance comments from the public will be restricted to items not on the agenda there will be no comments allowed that

advertise for a particular person or group comments should be limited to no longer than 3 minutes the commission may not respond to speakers during the call to public the commission may direct the staff to study the matter or request that the matter be placed on a future agenda do we have any comments no all right I see none let's go to new business um first we need to start out with the oath of office um new commission members for this term are myself Elizabeth Goss Deborah Sia and Scott McCoy yes all of the new Commissioners were given the oath of office and they have been signed thank you all right next we have the appointment of chairperson and vice chairperson for 2025 at the beginning of each year the commission needs to choose a chairperson and vice chairperson um that is just for discussion amongst ourselves so I will open that for discussion um I think you've been doing a fine job uh chair gos and I'd like for you to take the Heat and and retain that role so if you put yourself forward I'll vote for you all right I was going to say the same thing I'll second that all right do we have any other comments on that one okay well then I guess I'll put that to um a vote do we have a motion for that you want to make a motion I move that we we retain uh chair Goss as our chair for our commission I'll second that all right we have a motion and a second do you want to take a roll call vote uh chair gos approve uh commissioner sixa yes commissioner Noble yes commissioner McCoy yes commissioner swap yes and commissioner Waters

approve all right well I guess that makes me the chair so I will continue um okay so now we need to have a vice chair who is interested in that role if I may approach a comment uh I would I would like to put forward um uh chair schwap just because you have so many kids and you still come every every weekend I think you're you're taking a lot on you might as well take some more I'd like to suggest that you run so that's up to you second what do you think Jen are you interested uh yes um I'm willing to do that all right have any more discussion on that nope all right do we have a motion oh y chair Goss yeah uh commissioner sixa yes commissioner Noble yes commissioner McCoy yes commissioner swap yes and commissioner Waters yes all right we have a chair and a vice chair then we can um jump to the third which is is open meeting law and parliamentary procedure training the City attorney will provide the annual open meeting law and parliamentary procedure training to the commission members so that'll be me I think most of you know I'm Carl Cooper I'm the City attorney uh this is something we're going to do with all the boards and commissions the first meeting of the year just make sure everybody goes through this training I'll try and keep it real quick because you've all been through it before at some point in time or another uh of always being continually reminded to remind you folks that the microphones are sometimes difficult to or don't always pick up what we're saying so we just need to talk into the microphone make sure it's on and we kind of make everybody happy uh so next slide please Joel all right so basically the open meeting law is just talking about how we need to make sure that there's transparency in the actions that we do

and all of the government's business need to be done in public in these types of meetings I'm not going to read this uh I don't know if you have copies if you have copies great you do have copies so you can always go through it uh but it hasn't changed since the last time you've been through this training so just we always want to make sure that we're doing as much as we can in public current according to the statute next so you are part of the public body and again all this is supp be conducted in public uh next uh this is done to protect uh and preserve the rights of the individuals that we have here to participate in government uh it definitely it protects the integrity and the transparency and uh builds that trust between the government and the citizens next uh as it say You must comply you're part of the public body next a meeting this is one that sometimes confuses people but it's any point in time when you have a quorum and I know the next slide talks about a quorum but a quorum is four of you if four of you communicate information no matter how you do it you're starting a meeting so uh just want to be careful that next slide I think defines what a quorum is uh go to the next one this is how a meeting a meeting is basically that shending or sending sharing information that could potentially or is going to be on the agenda to discuss and it could be any of these matters or any of these uh these ways uh the some people don't think about social media but if someone posts a comment on social media says hey this this item is coming up for uh to see us in next month and I'm going to vote for it and then three of you guys decide hey I'm going to comment on that and say I support it and I'm going to vote there too that's an open meeting law violations we just want to avoid that you just want to be careful about what you communicate and how you communicate next uh splintering the Quorum is basically that communication that goes

two people talk and then one of those two people goes and talks to somebody else they talk to somebody else and splintering the quum it's basically relaying or sharing that information that's start to get less than a quorum but you build that Quorum Body by sharing that information so you always want to be careful about that uh if someone tells you a position of what they want to do don't share it with somebody else if you know we're trying to avoid pre-ordained the discussion next and if you have any questions and I'm going fast please stop me uh obviously the information the meeting uh can't take place without 24-hour notice to the public that's to make sure that they're aware of what's going on so they can here in person or by watching it on YouTube next uh standard agenda stuff uh it basically specifies what we're talking about when we're talking about and that information that allows the public to know so they can decide whether they want to participate or not next slide uh this is the big one if it's not on the agenda you can't talk about it and you'll see me in Council meetings or in some of these board or commission meetings just saying hey let's turn it back to to the P the specific uh discussion item we're looking at uh sometimes people take a roundabout way to get what they want to communicate and the chairperson or me or some of the staff we don't always know where you're going so if you think you're deviating bring yourself back uh any of these interested parties we can always try and direct you back to the point but try and stick to the topic uh because if you're talking about something that's not on the agenda or that would that could possibly be something that's address later you could create uh an open meeting law violation and any of the actions could be declared null and void by the AG's office next uh call the public it's not something that's required but we do call to the public uh and that's just

basically we open it up someone's come up and talk about something uh that's on their mind that's basically related to pnz or whatever just trying to keep it uh within the jurisdiction of each of the commissions uh next the call the public you all aware of it sometimes the Public's not aware of it that you you don't get to respond you don't get to engage it's not a discussion so the only time you really going to respond is if uh someone criticizes you uh at the call of the public you could respond to that I recommend you don't respond to these types of things just let it roll off your back and it usually needs to be something serious uh but generally your response as you're having staff look at it later put it back on the agenda or just sit there and just listen next uh the public has the right as it says to listen attend videotape record only speak at public hearings or call the public but they don't have a right to disrupt so if they're disruptive then we can deal with that later and if you get somebody that's super disruptive and they're not listening to what you're trying to do you recess the meeting go in the back chill out uh if we need to get law enforcement to come in and deal with it we can always do that but that doesn't happen I don't think I've seen that happen here or if it hasn't maybe once or twice next uh sanctions for violing open meeting law uh the courts can impose a civil penalty you are you would be responsible for that civil penalty on your own it's not something the city covers but generally uh with an open meeting law violation what'll happen if someone makes a report or a complaint to the Attorney General's office the Attorney General informs me of that complaint and I can respond to it saying yeah you're right we made a mistake or we don't think we made a mistake and this is why we don't think we made a mistake generally what you're looking at is if there's some kind of violation it's it's an educational thing so what it would mean is if we did something we made a mistake we correct whatever action we may need to correct

but I would come here and give this report all over again it's education uh if you do something that's intentional and super bad but I can't think of that would be a different story you could be kicked out of your office next conflict of interest this is something that's very serious we need to take uh consideration of this especially with the with h what you guys are doing uh it's not a bad word it just means that you have some interest in some uh activity that's before the before the commission if you have a conflict just declare that you have the conflict you fill out some paperwork the city clerk has if you're not sure you can always call me you can call the clerks and we can talk about it uh and the conflict basically go to the next one uh and it's basically going to be money uh or it's going to be some kind of a pecuniary interest or proprietary interest which is uh it benefits you that may be an employment actions or something along that line but uh make sure just if you're not sure sometimes it's best just to to step back anyways but definitely come and talk to us we can sort it out there's a comment here about uh providing uh Goods Services equipment to the municipality as a government official you can't provide Goods or these types of services to the the city unless it's been done through a competitive public bidding process just and that's come up a few times that we've had to deal with and it it's not a problem it's just something we have to deal with and that's to prevent some kind of favoritism uh the conflict of interests you have what are uh substantial and remote and a remote interest just kind of is the exception so we'll go to the next slide I'm not going to go through all these there's two pages of this I just want to make sure you guys have it you can read through those and see what those remote interests are and if you have a question about that we can deal with it another time it's it there it's it's a little complicated to try and

describe in this meeting next slide shows the next grouping of them and these basically kind of cover most of the situations that you're going to run into these are the statutes uh involving uh uh the conflict of interest and please contact the clerk's or my office next slide and we're going to talk about basic parliamentary procedure just rules to conduct the meeting we don't follow Robert's Rules of Order so some people who use that get confused because we're much more relaxed I think Robert's Rules of Order is overly complicated and it's meant to stifle in my mind it's meant to stifle uh the discussion so ours is much more simpler to deal with uh and it it it facilitates that transparency you need with uh the the citizens and you guys next basic thing is you got motions you all know what motions are there's three types well there more than three types there's the three basic motions you deal with the main motion I move to approve something uh subsidiary motions are changing I want to amend the original motion and then you have incidental motions that be called to order uh points of privilege those sorts of things I'm not going to go into that it just starts to get overly complicated when we start doing too many of these things but we can always do that if we need to uh always obtain the floor from the chairperson uh when you make the motion make sure it's nice and clear uh the chairperson should respond uh by repeating that motion everybody knows what it is uh you always want to have your second of after you get the second then you respond you're R State uh the chairperson calls for a second next slide sorry I'm going a little out of order uh there's no second obviously that motion dies uh the chair person will restate the motion uh you can discuss what's on you can discuss the motion uh generally that's what happens when uh once you've made that motion you have that discussion about I'm going to

vote for it this way I'm not going to vote for this way I have some questions uh obviously there's that's the point you can expand some questions on the motion make some U amendments to it and then you just put the the question you you you know are you ready to vote then you vote next slide uh basically just parliamentary procedure helps keep uh the the pro helps keep the meeting moving closely or uh proceeding properly uh make sure you speak clearly and concisely something I'm not doing very well and obey the rules of debate and as it says always be courteous I think I've never seen anybody not be courteous but respect everybody uh the participants uh and your you folks and the staff and everything moves along PR quickly I think that's it any questions I know was fast but it's boring um chair I do have a question sure um Council uh occasionally I get approached by developers usually somebody that's invested in one of these these items and they want to talk privately you know I always just have like a blanket I don't engage in you know ex party communication like what's the best approach for handling that so there's there's different levels of when that has to come into play uh so and and what you're kind of talking about is basically someone come lobbying you to for your position Phil if you if you don't want to talk to them you don't have to talk to them you can get all your information at the meeting if you want to talk to them and have them provide you some information that's great I would I would try and refrain from committing to anything and I would try to refrain from saying what your position is because what could happens if you tell them what your position is then they go to another person and then they're going to try and get all those commitments upfront uh and that could be you know splintering the quorum could be creating a a Serial committee or a Serial meeting so we want to avoid that

as much as possible but if you feel the desire to talk to them I think it's okay just be very careful about how far you go into it if we were I'm going to expand way too much if we were in a quasi judicial type of situation such as the board of adjustment or board of appeals you're not supposed to engage in that kind of discussion because you're getting basically evidence presented to you and as a board of adjustment or appeals you're in this judicial position where you're ruling on a situation and the information you're ruling on needs to be what's been presented in the meeting itself okay thank you so too much information but there you go it helps thank we have any more questions chair if I can ask a confirming question car staff will send out emails at times and we'll send it out to the entire commission I'm very careful about the reply all I had that in my notes to say something and I did not so don't reply to all basically uh generally your response might if you reply at all could be hey I'll be I'll be at the meeting or got it great information don't reply at all just hit if you're going to reply just hit to reply to the individual that way your response isn't going to everybody uh because if you put something that could be a commitment to something that may again create some kind of a violation they'll meeting on so just be careful it happens but we try to avoid it thank you all right I think we're good thank so much yep all right the next thing that we have is a conditional use permit Cup 24-6 this is a conditional use permit application to facilitate the establishment of a 51,6 ft climate controlled self storage facility on 1.32 Acres located approximately 300 ft south of the hipi Mountain Road and East of Mission Boulevard in the community business C2

Zone hpay Mountain Road C to HMR overlay County Assessor parcel number 32106 d85 thank you thank you chair gos Commissioners for you tonight is conditional use permit cup 24-6 and this is an application on behalf of angle homes for mini storage facility particular project is located uh in the C2 HMR the holay mountain walapai Mountain Road uh overlay District sits on approximately 1.32 Acres just a little bit of site history this particular property uh was uh initially incorporated into the C2 HMR zoning uh with an amendment that was done back in 2013 uh then subsequent to that in 2014 the property changed from was reson from r110 to the C2 designation and then was ultimately split into its current configuration also in 2014 before you tonight really is a useonly permit so the site plan is subject to uh administerial uh type action that the staff would be looking at or administrative type action the staff would be looking at through the process when they submit their formal site plan however what they have submitted is their conceptual site plan along with their elevation renderings which we'll go over this evening uh in support of their use only for the cup so as stated in the project description this project Pro is located over near off of Mission Boulevard it is just south of wellip Mountain Road the property is designated C2 HMR overlay and as shown with on this particular slide it is the property that has the star on it the pro property itself uh did ask for a waiver on the citizen review process which was still in effect at the

time that this particular application was started uh due to the few number of property owners in the area within the 300 foot area that particular apartment was waved in accordance with the municipal code notice of public hearing was uh presented that we mailed out notifications to the property owners within 300 ft we've published uh within the Kingman Daily minor as well as posted a sign on the project site uh as of uh the preparation of the staff report and as of today staff has not received any comments regarding this proposal in general the engineering departments so our internal departments engineering fire as well of our city city building department and City uh surveying uh all have reviewed the conceptual site plans uh comments are Incorporated within the conditions of approval that will be presented in your staff reports and for site plan purposes this is the conceptual site plan that was proposed by the applicant as you can see this is a 51,6 sqare foot uh building outline sits on 1.32 Acres parking in accordance to the code they would be required to provide one parking space for every 50 dwelling or for every 50 storage units that requires them to have eight parking spaces plus two for their manager's unit uh this site is providing 16 spaces there is Landscaping proposed within the the project site that will also serve as their retention area and again this will all be reviewed through the city's uh site plan review process the the applicant has provided this conceptual plan it has a multitude of different architectural Styles and materials that are being proposed on it detailed materials will forthcoming again in the site plan review so for you tonight uh in order to deem this particular application uh and

to move it forward for a recommendation of approval staff has demonstrated that the proposal is consistent with the C2 HMR Des designation that's consistent with the general uh the general plan itself uh it is also does not create any public health safety or welfare issues this proposed use would not be deemed a nuisance uh it is located within a commercial designation uh materials that are typically in storage facilities are regulated by the applicant or the owner of the storage facility as well as through the building code uh with that being said lastly storage facilities create very little traffic so with respect to the location we don't deem that these would be any concerns that are being presented before you this evening in general uh the site has demonstrated that it actually can meet the lock coverage parking intervals between driveways it has uh setbacks that are greater than required there are zero setbacks that are required for this project site it is not adjacent to residential zoning or residential use it has adequate uh access and circulation around the building and for Mission Boulevard and again it is providing open space on the site which will serve as its retention basins no noise light or visual impacts the site would be required to adhere to all the city standards when it comes to lighting uh Landscaping as well as the architectural landscaping and screening for the site all of that will be reviewed through the ministerial process with the site plan there are no impact on public utilities stealth search facilities have a very little Demand on any of our Public Services as well as public water or sewer again signage and lighting will also be reviewed again through the site plan review process C the applicant at that time will also be required to dedicate and improve any of the right of way that the project site fronts and again no impact on any resources it's not a historic prehistoric site no natural resources on the subject property with that staff does recommend that the planning zoning commission uh

approve conditional use permit 24- 00006 affirming the findings contained in the staff report and the conditions of approval 1 through 14 one thing that should be noted uh as you may recall we did a a Zone text Amendment mment where uh cups would then be going on to the council for their approval uh as they came before you in the future this particular application was uh actually started and was noticed in advance prior to the change in that ordinance so the approval body would be uh the Planning and Zoning commission for this application tonight with that I'm available for any questions thank you Jason does anybody have any questions uh chair Jason uh we're in relation to the walik Quick Stop is this because I know they have some they have some storage in this general area right is it right down the road or there is Storage in the general area I believe this is actually further to the the east in this particular situation and I know that there is another application that is pending for additional storage in the area thank you but um you had a neighborhood you didn't have the neighborhood review but you did still post it right we still did post the site correct and there was nobody that came forward that is correct it was it was posted on site for the public hearing it was noticed for all the property owners within 300 ft I believe that was six six or seven Property Owners uh and then we also posted it in the kingom daily minor okay and um just one more thing in your slides there was I know we're not supposed to discuss the elevation right now I just want to take a look at it really quick and went so are those standard garage doors on the left East Elevation it looks like they are uh basically grade level doors for exterior access for some of the storage opportunities and then they'll have indoor climate control storage as well maybe 12T tall yeah again that will be reviewed through the process anywhere

from 8 to 12 feet is typical for storage and you normally get to 15 feet for if it's for RV storage looks like a lot of building right there all right thank you thank you Jason C all right this item requires a public hearing so I will open up the public hearing if anybody has anything to say to us on that matter thank you just come up and state your name for us certainly I would also uh like to give you a b if I can you take a look at some pictures pass around thank it's been been a while since I've been in front of this commission or you need to state your name please sir I'm Robert Bennett I'm the owner of DNL storage or walpy Mountain Storage on the corner of Rosland and walpy Mountain Road I have been in conflict with the city of Kingman for substantial amount of time all the way up to the US Supreme Court over my zoning on my storage units because I wanted to expand my storage units they changed the law this commission voted and asked to change the law to allow c a conditional use permit on that property I agreed to that because initially I had storage units on that property the city asked me to to join a city I agreed to that and signed papers agreeing to that with a verbal condition

that there would be no adverse effects to my property the first thing that happened with the city was they downgraded my zoning took away my right to build storage units the minute I entered the city they then continued their process and imposed a sales tax on me which they also did not disclose I have been an unhappy camper with the city of Kingman for a long time the decision of the US Supreme Court and the state courts and the federal courts was that I had to go back into State Court they refused to address state issues all the way up to the US Supreme Court now the the only reason you have conditional use permits allowed on that prop on walpi Mountain Storage is because of the Cities taking away my right to build storage units at a later time after I started trying to build those storage units I was denied a cup three times in a row conditional use permit that's what resulted in the civil suit I do not particularly have any affection for the angles they were ones that came out opposed to my storage units because it fronts Boulder Creek Estates where they were building and I told them that I did not like that at the time because I granted them free of charge the right and easement across my property for the water rights to get to Boulder Creek Estates I did that without

being paid for it I'm a little pissed at the city continually from that standpoint because when I originally bought that property I bought the rights that were tunneled underneath walpi Mountain Road that cost $40,000 which was supposed to be refunded to me by the development of Boulder Creek estate the city outright City staff told me that they were not going to pay that $4,000 which should have been assessed to each property owner in the Boulder Creek Estates Doug angle benefited from that the angle industry benefited from that the city benefited from that at my expense I am not a happy camper with the city I do not like this stuff I have an application now in to rezone it and I held off doing it for the last two years because my wife had Alzheimer's and I decided to stay home and take care of her chair I have your time your time's up um but thank you for your input um we can probably address it better outside of the meeting but um there's no point in addressing it anywhere because here's the facts if I don't get my zoning I'm going back into state court and I know your attorney says I have no vested interest in it I disagree I have attorneys that disagree and I don't give it D anymore I don't like this city government it's time to sit down thank you

okay does anybody else have anything to say no all right then I'm going to close public hearing and open it up for commission discussion I have a question who do you have a question for so uh I is it a question for us or a question for Jason for you for me okay thank you for us to discuss okay the road when I went to the pro property the road you turn right and BLM is on the right and then the stri malls on the left and then the storage facilities behind that that is that a road is it going to go all is that part of Mission Boulevard is it going to be extended all the way to the other portion uh I mean is it going to be a connector Road an arterial Road okay so that's a Jason question oh I'm sorry that's okay I'm new yeah chair go commission chairman sixa you're talking Mission Boulevard itself or are we talking Washington the road that goes between the strip mall mbmm and if you Traverse South then the storage facility will be on the right behind the strip mall and then it appears apparently that the road ends or does it keep on going through is that road going to be paved and access a part of mission or so Washington should be improveed essentially Washington right Washington and they would be required to improve across their Frontage it would yes will it connect behind so South to connect to Mission itself or for continuing South I'm sorry I'm not privy to which road that Miss so this is Mission here where the cursor

is yes okay so yes yeah this would be designed as a as currently as a knuckle but more than likely depending on what type of development comes in here Mission would or uh Washington would would continue okay to the South we just don't have any development proposals before us right now we probably will now thank you thank you Jason all right what do you guys think this is discussion right sure yes um just an observation um like my my my problem with a lot of these stort these uh storage facilities is usually when they're on our big roads that you know we the cities put millions of dollars into improving and then we have something that uses one or two cars a week you know or you know really low it just seems like it should be in an industrial area that being said this is off the beaten path um there's another storage facility down the street I believe the gentleman that came up it sounds like he wants to create a storage facility too so he's not really arguing against it don't hear any public contempt for this project so I don't really see a lot of friction with it just my own opinion I agree so far it looks like it fills all the conditions that we're looking for so thank you do we have any further discussion uh chair uh I also agree it doesn't seem like it's very contentious and I do Express empathy towards the gentleman who came up and expressed his feelings about that as well I appreciate his involvement all right do we have a motion make a motion to approve initial use permits I'll second that we have a motion in a second can I get a roll call

Vote Yes chair Goss approved Vice chair swap uh yes commissioner 6 yes commissioner Noble yes commissioner McCoy yes commissioner Waters yes thank you motion passes all right next we have the bank Street rezone it is case number rz2 4- 00003 the city initiated requests to rezone approximately 16 Acres from rural residential RR to commercial community business c-2 located on the east and west sides of Bank Street South of the Gordon Drive and north of Airway Avenue County Assessor parcel numbers 32-02 d164 a 32-02 d165 320 d102 d170 320 d02 d172 32 0- 02- 174e 320 d02 D1 73b a portion of 320 04-12 a 320 04- 013a and 3204 d64 K thank you Jason thank you chair chair gos commissioners before you Deni is rezone 243 and this is an application to rezone uh majority of the properties that are located within this block on Bank Street from rural residential to C2 uh as stated this is an application that is being brought forth by the city's development services department this is in response to uh feedback that we had received from the city council and direction that we had received from the city council there are various Property Owners associated with this particular rezone the rezone encompasses

approximately 16 Acres across the entire uh uh Corridor along Bank Street uh the parcels that have the the darker line uh drwn around them are the parcels that are in question uh that are being rezoned this evening and this is just an aerial photo as you can see along the area of Bank Street uh we have a church there's an animal hospital there's an office uh there's another church or a religious institution so the corridor is developing as a commercial Corridor institutional uses which are also compatible uses within the commercial designation the existing zoning on the site uh spans anywhere from we have some existing sites that are C3 those are not being amended today it's only the the parcels that are residential uh that are being amended to the C2 designation to to demonstrate that we are in compliance with the general plan this is the commercial Corridor that's along Bank Street and that is designated as Regional commercial uh there is a small pocket again that is public and that's one of the churches is currently developed on the site so before you this evening is the reone part of that is to demonstrate that it is compliant uh in consistent with the general plan the 2040 General plan that is adopted that is the case the C2 does fit for The General commercial or the regional commercial land use designation the reone of the property is in the best interest of the public it does not uh does not create any safety or inconvenience concerns it is in the best welfare of the city as it continues to provide for much needed commercial designations within the city for commercial opportunities uh to help grow the city's businesses as well as the economic development opportunities that continue

to be uh presented for us in general uh location and size again this is a commercial Corridor the parcels are of sufficient size to accommodate commercial development commercial development is occurring already within the bank Street Corridor uh so this will just continue augment those uh those particular properties as well as the development that's occurring based on the findings that are in your staff report the analysis that the staff has made regarding this particular area we are recommending that the Planning and Zoning commission recommend approval uh of the rezone to the mayor and city council that concludes my presentation to answer any questions does anybody have any questions for staff I do keep mind was the current inventory C2 that we have in Kingman already the current inventory I don't have that answer off the top of my head for you I can certainly get you what that inventory is if you would asked me residential I could have given you that one this proposal is based on need or because of the development that's currently in Place Bank Street was looked at as being a commercial Corridor so uh Bank Street is C currently being built out for commercial purpose purposes so this uh the direction was was to come back and take a look at uh converting these Parcels that are residential which would really be incompatible with the commercial designation especially the C3 designations that are already occurring on the site uh staff uh did recommend that we go with the C2 designation it does allow for a lighter uh intensity of commercial uh once the commercial designation is establish should a particular operator seek to come forward and want something that's of more intensity they could come back and seek their own rezone to C3 and the properties immediately Behind These proposed rezones or is residential residential correct so the construction

of block wall would be required and that is correct that that's not changed thank you thank you any further questions for Jason uh yes chair um Jason we're probably not at the point to have like a traffic study or something like an impact estimate of what the additional commercial would do right yeah at this point wouldn't I can tell you with the general plan when the general plan was looked at and reviewed it was looked at as a commercial Corridor which is why it already has the regional commercial designation on it uh so from that perspective we've looked at it internally that that it makes sense from a traffic standpoint but as individual projects come in if it were to Warrant a traffic impact analysis then one would be provided okay and the the city is aware that the high school is on there with a school crossing and potentially the new megatur Church they have on the Journey Church or whatever it sounds like they're putting a school in there or something I don't haven't seen anything yeah I'm just a little conern all right thank you you're welome I can say that um in my business as a commercial broker it's there's very few available commercial C2 lots available in the city very few and that how much money did we spend putting the fiber optic and the gas and the water lines down Bank Street to make it I know everybody thinks we're getting an Olive Garden but not yet maybe someday but that's what that was designated for that's why we did it so yeah I think this is a great um opportunity for the community and for Kingman thank you all right any more questions for Jason no all right I see n thank you so much all right this item as well requires a public hearing so I will this up for public comment if anybody wants to address the commission please come forward and state your name no all right um I'm going to close

public hearing then and open it up for commission discussion uh Cher Goos I'll just wrote your comment um you know seems like my whole life the city's had plans for Bank Street it's just kind of floundered like I I would like to see something come of it finally you know I am concerned about the The Crossings my theory my personal pet theory was the cross the the school crossing basically nuked that as an alternate to Stockon Hill Road it just seems dumb to put a a 15 mph you know school go Crossing on a major cross Crossroad I I don't see any plan to address that and again maybe staff or or could take a close look at that sort of aspect of a traffic study you know there's there's going to be school crossing there and maybe another one with Journey Church other than that it seems like it lines right up with the plan that we just approved a few years ago so I don't have a problem with it yeah and make sure if you want staff to look into that too address it there at the end so that they can make a big list thank you chair yeah can I ask does the commercial C2 designation does that cross Gordon to the high school that's County yeah so does the Comm what we're talking about does I don't I don't know what it is but I know it's County as I don't think it does I think when it hits Gordon and the cut off between the county and the city that uh it won't be in front of the school that I'm aware of when I drove out there looking at the map you're probably right yeah let me you know just ask do you want to ask anything to Jason he's our Wiz of all information knowled does this C2 zoning is it uh

what they're asking for does it uh Traverse north of uh Gordon Cher C thank you commissioner sixa uh as you can see on this particular slide there's a variation of different designations to the north within the county uh to the Northeast across Gordon there's an agricultural residential designation there is some C2 designation within it uh as well as some rural residential and Halfacre residential lots yes can I discuss with him oh yeah we so we could talk amongst all of ourselves and if we have a question for staff then we just have to make sure that they come up but that's uh commissioner Waters down there at the end and then commissioner swap next to you commissioner Waters when we it's my understanding that when we put in the fiber optics and the larger lines and presented this as being commercial and invested that time and money to make that happen I think right after that was 2008 that's right when everything tanked it wasn't because of anything that was or wasn't done by the city or anybody it was the globally the whole everything tanked and so that's why is in my understanding my opinion that it happened that it didn't happen why none of these were the residential lots weren't uh rezoned or anything because nobody was coming in now everybody wants to be here we need R2 because we don't have any that I'm aware of and it's it's a good Zoning for commercial you got the yeah well Cher gos um commissioner 6 I certainly hope that that's the case what I remember about that road growing up is it's a wash like you and they've improved it but basically you drive down the road and there's a ditch in the

middle and there's it fills up with water again there's like Spar very sparse commercial which maybe we're addressing here and then there's a school school zone that just impedes using it functionally you know you get pulled over a bye cop if you try and drive down it a little too fast so I've just seen a lot of problems with that road there's not many alternatives to Stock Hill Road hopefully the city can make it work and I'm rooting for them hopefully thank you ch all right so just to Circle back um does anybody have any other comments about whether or not we should change this to C2 or not I have one more question to staff if I may yeah south of Kino is zoned what for the most part because you're not addressing south of Kino on Bank certainly chair gosh commissioner McCoy uh the property is located south of kinan Bank are Zone C3 and C2 existing correct all those yes okay thank you thank you Jason thank you all right what do we think any more conversation or are we ready for motion I'll make a motion I make a motion to approve Bank Street reone case number RZ 24-3 all right we have a motion on a second can I get a roll call vote second chair gos approve uh Vice chair swap yes commissioner sixa next just yes commissioner Noble yes commissioner McCoy yes commissioner Waters yes all right the motion is approved all right next we have the Del

Monaco reone case number RZ 24-4 this is a request to rezone approximately 1.8 Acres from the r-16 residential single family 6,000 foot minimum lot size Zone and c-1 neighborhood convenience Zone to C2 community business Zone located at the northeast corner of north Stockton Hill Road and Florence Avenue and south of Robinson Avenue County Assessors partial number 311141 97g and 31114 4-1 190c applicant summer and Daniel Dem Monaco of Del Monaco real estate LLC thank you good evening Madam chair Commissioners I'm presenting zone change request case RZ 24-4 applicant summer and Daniel Del Monaco thank you the requested action is a zone change of approximately 1.18 Acres from an R16 residential single family 6000t minimum lot size Zone and a C1 neighborhood convenience Zone to a C2 community business Zone to unify zoning across the site and allow for a custodial Care Facility the sub site is located at the northeast corner of Florence Avenue in Stockton Hill Road and can be further described as assessor parcel numbers 31114 d197 G and 31114 d190 C some general information the property owner Del Monaco real estate LLC

applicant summer and Daniel Del Monaco the current zoning R16 C1 and C2 asking to change to C2 here's an aerial view of the site you can see that there's currently some existing buildings and parking located on the site here's a general plan map which indicates the current General plan designation for a majority of the site is local commercial with medium density on a portion and we were able to work through that um internally without having to take that forward based on the requirements laid out in the new general plan here's a zoning and utilities map as you can see a portion of the site is zoned C1 C2 in the middle and then R16 towards the right hand side and we have Utilities in Stockton Hill Road RightWay Robinson Avenue RightWay and Florence Avenue right away which the property has Frontage on all three sides the the proposed amendment is consistent with and conforms to the goals of the general plan and any applicable specific plans the subdeck property is currently designated as local commercial with the exception of medium density residential in the northeastern portion of APN 311141 90c there is a companion case GP 24001 being processed administratively that will change the medium density residential designation to local commercial on the Kingman General General plan 2040 projected land use map the proposed amendment will not be detrimental to the public interest health safety convenience or welfare of the city and will add to the public good as described in the general plan the zone change will encourage infill development to occur on the overall site encouraging infill development is also

an objective of the growth area element which seeks to promote the most cost-efficient and logical expansion of public services and infrastructure this will add to the public good as described in the general plan furthermore the proposed development will facilitate improvements to the existing sidewalk and Street Network which would allow citizens in the neighborhood several Transportation options to access the existing and expanded businesses such as vehicle bicycle and walking the affected site is physically suitable in terms of design locations shape size operating characteristics and the provision of public emergency vehicle access public services and utilities to ensure that the requested Zone designation and proposed or anticipated uses Andor development will not endanger jeopardize or otherwise constitute a hazard to the property or improvements in the vicinity in which the property is located the site is physically suitable for development as either multif family or commercial as the site is relatively flat and has access to an improved Street system and access to city water and sanitary sewer infrastructure site development will occur through the city's permitting process where any proposed development would be scrutinized to ensure adherence to various standards designed for safety and for compatibility with adjacent properties therefore it is not anticipated that any additional development on the subject site will endanger jeopardize or otherwise constitute a hazard to the property or improvements in the vicinity um the site was posted with public notice post published in the Kingman Daily minor and letters to Property Owners within 300 feet were sent by mail as of this date staff has received no comments from the public City and outside agencies comments were addressed in the staff report the recommendation based on the submitted application and public Outreach staff analysis was able to find that the proposed amendment to the zoning map complies with the required

criteria of the Kingman zoning code section 2- 50.01 0 C5 therefore planning staff recommends that the Planning Commission recommend approval of the request to change the zoning of the subject property from residential single family 6,000 square foot minimum lot size and Commercial neighborhood convenience to commercial community business C2 thank you questions thank you does anybody have questions for staff uh chair yeah just really quick um I don't have my manual in front of me but the community business Zone it's a it's a lot of different types of businesses right I mean like talking Family Dollar to bank or it's pretty broad category and we won't know until later on when we actually get a little closer to the project being implemented right they're aiming to open a custodial care facility in the existing buildings they did propose an expansion of one of those buildings for the custodial Care Facility but I think that that's something that's still in the works and if not committed to at this point we won't have any elevations or anything like got you thank you that's all I got any more questions no all right thank you so much thank you all right this item is also requiring a public hearing so I will open this up for public comment if you have a comment please approach the podium and state your name so my name is D mono property with my wife we are uh we currently have a lease with a company that's going to run a custodial care facility for kids we're going to expand to the west side of the property uh 2,000 feet all of it's compliant with the current zoning we're just using this to clean up the zoning that's currently in place so uh realistically and I'll honestly wait to talk to Jason afterwards we've got building plans came in today not quite finalized but uh they should be pretty quick to get to the

city so we can start construction of of the buildout and get them moved in Target date for them is September 1st and they'll operate 16 bed facility in the in the Westerly building with some conference room and Learning Centers and on the easterly building I think there's eight bed facility there with additional conference rooms and and learning facil so I don't know if that answers your question but gives you a little bit of color chair yeah I just was wondering how committed you truly were to doing the custodial Care Facility you know it's like I'm not I'm so I'm that so the company that does it um I guess it's it's out there uh it's called Community Bridges they're pretty large they've got 20 facilities in Arizona they got some in Oklahoma one in Washington state um that's what they do I mean they generate probably 150 million a year in revenue and 50 million in assets so they're a pretty large company they've committed to about a million and a half into the facility plus we're putting in another probably we're going to be in a probably a million two out of our pocket so there's a substantial investment going into that okay yeah to answer your question that was just concerned another Family Dollar might be like we we get it reasoned and then we get a Family Dollar you remember the Dollar General people are tearing their hair out been here for long enough that we don't I don't don't need another one thank you thank you all right do we have any more public comments no um one second I have to close public comment before we start so um all right let me close public comment and open up commission discussion thank you now you can go ahead question um so that's probably a question for him so I'm going to bring you back up um so yeah they'll have overnight stay there is what it is so

basically what their model is is for for children that have a variety of issues um honestly they they oversee the whole gamut so they've got adult to there's this isn't just one portion so they've got about six or eight different um Care Facility you know uses but what it is is for kids maybe with drug dependencies kids that are in a foster situation kids that are into a scenario where um the state maybe take take um takes control I don't I don't know what the term is um and so they currently operating with a contract with Mojave County they have been for a number of years they don't have a facility in Mojave County so all the kids that are in this scenario are being shipped to to Phoenix to to other presca to other facilities and not with staying within our community when I say our community I'm it's Kingman Bullhead havu so it's it's not just here that'll be housed in in this unit so it's there's a lot more of that Dynamic that's trying to keep it local they like the setting of it they feel it's a little bit more neighborhood um it is an ancient building there's some arches in there the proposal initially was to remove all that they're like no no we don't want that we want some closure and and to keep that neighborhood feel so that's what it is the kids are going to live there how long I couldn't tell you but we were planning for overnight stay in the in the that sounds wonderful I commend you for jumping in thank you there been a road so I appreciate it thank you thanks all right I hate to sorry chair I hate to spare my my ignorance but I I assumed a custodial facility was for like an old folks home you know and so my question is me being dumb on this and haven't read the planning code did the public know what this this facility is like I know the notices are pretty generic do they know that there's going to be people like potentially kids that are in trouble living here next to these

residences chair gos commissioner Waters so before you tonight is the rezone so the actual C2 designation not the actual use itself yeah understand the C2 designation does allow for custodial facilities the custodial facilities does not differentiate between whether being it's adult uh so in your case a a assisted living facility versus that for children so the direct response to the question is no notice was given regarding the type of use because it wasn't before us for this application thank you uh chair yeah I I know it's early yeah I don't know I could just see some discussion about it if if people are living right next to this that again you know this last one we didn't have anybody show up so that's my only comment I I know that this is not what we're discussing but just maybe to allay your fears a little bit a lot of children who go into foster care in Mojave County end up not only living their home but also leaving their schools and County and are they're sent to um most of them are sent to Maricopa County or Tucson so I from what I understand a lot of this would be for foster children who from no fault of their own find themselves basically as immigrants but they would be able to stay in our County and in their schools and in their Sports and with their teachers it's a huge it's probably the biggest need that we have in the dependency program in Mojave County right now is to keep our children in County thank you and I'll just also put this out there that um unfortunately some of the responsibility for deciding whether or not people want things in their Community has to fall on the people themselves who decide not to go to the meetings or write back to the notices so I will just put that out there publicly on our YouTube channel that if you are a citizen and you get a

notice you might want to look into that um because you know it is on them to be involved in the notices that get sent out so um that definitely needs to happen more often as evidenced by our Empty Chairs 99.9% of the time that's true um but anybody else have comment no I'll make a motion to approve Del Monaco reone case number number RZ 24- 00004 I second a motion in a second can I get a roll call vote chair Goss approved commissioner sixa approved Vice chair swap yes commissioner Noble yes commissioner McCoy yes commissioner Waters approved motion carries all right last we have a Zone text Amendment admin complete sb162 D case number z02 or Z24 d003 this is a staff initiated amend Amendment to the city of Kingman zoning code to specifically amend section 2-3 0.020 application process to establish defined review times redeeming a zoning application administratively complete in accordance with Senate Bill 1162 Jor Commissioners thank you before you tonight is Zone code zoning code text Amendment Z 24-3 and this is actually a State Legislative mandated uh Amendment that's coming before you this evening and it's

to address our administrative completeness requirements uh within our code administrative completeness requirements is the first phase for a developer when they come before the planning planning department or the development services department in which we get the opportunity to look to see if their application is actually fully deemed complete so we can route it uh and get comments back um the State of Arizona has adopted really the the one bite at the Apple uh type concept so if we don't deem it if we were to deem it complete and then we come back with multiple rounds of different comments and in a second review or a third review um it puts the the city in the position of which we just don't want to be there we want to be able to make sure that we're given our complete comments uh at first review so I'll just kind of quickly go through this it does amend section 2-3-20 the application process which determines uh which currently does have a determination of administrative completeness for both uh administrative completeness and substantive review and then it also amends section 2.50 020 Z in change specifically this amendment also requires that there be certain actions taken uh when anytime a zoning amendment is being proposed so the purpose again tonight is really to comply with the Senate Bill SB 1162 requires municipalities within the State of Arizona to adopt an ordinance establishing a timeline for determination for administrative completeness for residential zoning applications it updates the code to establish a timeline for determination administrative completeness for for residential zoning or rezoning applications and it sets forth the procedures that must be followed uh by the city council the administrative complete section so application process determination uh this currently provides a process for determination of the administrative completeness but without a required timeline provides for the director to distribute the applications

for different to the different departments review administrative completeness and it requires the director to notify the applicant of an application is inm complete or to return the is complete or return the actual application for additional required information so this goes back to that one bite at the Apple so ultimately what it does is it amends uh to include the requirement that uh we have to deem uh or we have to be able to give them an ad administrative completeness review and determine to be complete within 30 days uh from the date that they submit their application within that 30 days if it is not deemed complete we do have to give them uh the list of requirements to deem it complete and then it falls back upon the applicate applicant to come back and resubmit that's the second part of this where it further states that upon the issuance of the written notice the review time frame is suspended so uh we we pick that back up when they come back in with the resubmittal and at that time staff has 15 days to actually review that that resubmittal to deem it now complete and again if it's not complete at that point in time it goes back it suspends that that timeline until they come back again and then the other part of this is it requires the application be to be complete by staff and Council uh is required to either approve or deny the application When It's associated with the reone within 180 days of uh of the application coming before them or for from their actual submitt and this is really designed to keep the housing opportunities moving forward with the state that's why this this particular Senate bill was was derived uh the uh was a negotiation between the league of cities uh back at uh back in 2023 and 2024 uh to encourage uh applications and rezones to be heard and not tabled indefinitely staff has analyzed the Amendments the proposed amendments are uh to clarify the existing code it is

consistent with sb162 and it does provide a a prescribed timeline for the council to take action once uh the application is deemed complete that concludes my presentation and I'm available for any questions thank you Jason does anybody have any questions for staff yeah chair gosh commissioner Waters uh so as it goes back to the applicant and is incumbent upon the applicant so they do not have a deemed complete application until it comes in and that's what really starts our timeline so as we go through those first few submittals or reviews uh if they're coming in if it's not deemed complete it does not start their timeline it goes back on pause um when they come back in the second time we'll have 15 days to look at it if it's deemed complete then then we're now under the timeline to act and move that application forward so it isn't until it's actually deemed complete that we have the the burden to to move the project forward I can tell you historically I I've done a study uh not particularly this city but at another jurisdiction in Arizona the the planning and zoning department held an application for 93 days however the applicant held it for 267 that was the average can you just turn your microphone on did I forget that um yeah sorry uh I'm just looking out for you guys because it seems like it's a one directional thing i' I've seen a flurry of these sort of um you know you're you're kind of assuaging the the developer Community lately and I understand it's coming top down being

forced down upon us um it could be fair you know like it it could be reciprocal in a way maybe they could not drag their feet and and make some of these applications stretch out for years and we have to renew C cups that were issued four years ago or whatever that's happened quite a bit on this board so so commission so anyway thank you thanks for if I can add chair go Commissioners uh this this was a a compromise between the league of cities uh the legislative uh Representatives that represent the city the cities at large back before uh the the Senate and what they were looking for at that time was to impose zoning by rights so which would to take away the ability for the city to control its local zoning so this this was what what we would consider as much as Fair as possible still retains local control thank you any more questions I have one me 15 days is that calendar or working question just so I speak correctly it is uh not listed here but it we count everything as calendar day or uh working days business days so the 180 would also be working days I will confirm it for you but I want to say that it is working days Carl do you remember okay is it what what kind of projects are these for like just a house sub mittle so all zoning applications so any planning planning zoning application that comes before uh the body for any type of approval so before planning a zoning commission and ultimately the city council so I may have missed it but listening to commissioner Waters it sounds like an applicant submits staff has 30 days to determine administrative completeness

and then if it's not then the applicant has 30 days to respond the applicant has as long as they want it pauses the timeline at that point when the applicant comes back and submits for their second bite at that apple or the second time that they submit staff now has 15 days to to review to deem it complete so there's no uh I guess my so when I deal with administrative completeness it's you know for sub subdivisions Waters uh sewer Lance sub mitts and that's 10 days for plats and so so forth commissioner gos uh chairman Noble the difference would be are they entitlement actions so actions that are coming before the Planning and Zoning commission that's what this is referring to as opposed to plan review action which are ministerial all right thank you if I can add I can tell you it's the direction of of my department and working with our engineering department is to improve our timelines and actually beat them well well above than what the state legislature requires it does look like it's saying working days so 15 working working what it seems including the 180 as well it it's what it's saying it defines it as working days but I I haven't gotten to the 180 yet but I just wanted to let you know what what what is what have your time frames been so far do you know chair gos and chairman Noble if I were to take a guest today because I haven't had very many applications that I've had the opportunity to start with but I can probably start with the rezones that are before you to toight um those are two applications that I personally had met with the app ANS my staff has been working on and we were

able to bring those forward within uh being deemed administratively complete and moving those applications forward and we did that within about 60 days so so administrate the complete and and the submitt toz correct so and again the timeline is 180 days okay so I guess people are going for you think this is doable right chair Goos commissioner I I I do believe the 180 days give staff plenty of time to move these applications forward I can tell you in in my previous life we moved applications forward within 60 to 120 days so that's well below the 180 day requirement great thank you U Jerry one more question um will this we just recently had a emergency meeting basically right before Thanksgiving the day before you know I mean is this going to conceivably 30 days business days I could see it necessitating you know like our us bending over backwards to make these meetings in time in some cases where the public doesn't have a chance to you know to put their two cents in basically so do you anticipate that having any sort of effect like that to where we have to have an emergency meeting before a city council meeting because this deadline that's being imposed from top down chair c commissioner Waters so again these timelines are are part and part for administrative completeness that is all at the front end of an application process once we get beyond that then staff has 180 days to bring it before the Planning and Zoning commission and city council to take action if we fail to bring it before at that time it is actually deemed complete uh as well as approved got it okay thank you any more questions for Jason no all

right thank you so much thank you all right this is also a public hearing item so I'm going to open this up to public comment if anybody has a comment please approach the podium and state your name I see none I'm going to close public comment and open it up for commission discussion does anybody have anything to say or should we just make motion this seems positive yeah I'll make a motion to approve uh sb1 is it on sb162 case number Z 024-0003 have a second I'll second all right we have a motion in a second can I get a roll call vote chair gos approved Vice chair swap uh yes commissioner sixa approved commissioner Noble yes commissioner McCoy yes commissioner Waters yes all right that's approved next we have Announcement by commission members this is limited to announcements availability or attendance at conferences and seminars request for agenda items for future meetings and requests for report from staff no discussion on any of these items does anybody have anything that they would like studied further uh yeah chair Goss um uh I'd just like to suggest that the tra study uh weigh in the possible the possibility of of additional um additional School Crossings on Bank Street uh when they do the traffic study and if if that'll have any impact on this new uh commercial Zone expansion down Bank Street thank you chair gos commissioner

Waters we do have a presentation uh tutorial coming back at the February meeting that's already addressing traffic concerns that was requested by the commission from the last uh meeting itself uh dealing with traffic impact analysis and so forth so I'll have the engineer look at that as well and at least provide you the the background on it great thank you thank you chair great thank you any further announcements no okay and then do we have any requests for future um agenda items or updates in any other form I will just say congratulations on your new Vice chairship all right well thank you guys for coming if I can chair Goos Commissioners I'd like just to take a moment to introduce to you one of our newest planners that started with us this week Heather rasmuson joins us from the city of Phoenix from The Last Five Years prior to that city of Lancaster out of California she comes with about 18 years of Municipal experience mostly in Economic Development uh but that does closely align with our planning goals and and what we do in the planning department so we're excited to have her with us tonight and so you'll start seeing more of her at uh at these meetings and as cases come about great thank you so much and welcome to the Planning and Zoning crew um this meeting is [Music] Jed for