Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

have a roll call for us, please. Yes, sir. Thank you. Mr. Parker, Mr. Dorta, Mr. Fox, he did let me know he was going to be absent. Mr. Williams, here. Mr. Kendrick, present. Mr. Mat, present. Miss Flattley. Mr. Meyer. Mr. Nicely present. And Mr. Palotto present. Thank you. We do have a quorum, sir. All right. Let the record show that there is a quorum. May we all stand for the pledge of allegiance. I stand for liberty and justice. Bow our heads. Heavenly Father, we thank you for allowing us to gather in this place. Lord, we ask that you uh guide our minds and our hearts as we go about the county's business. So Lord, we ask that you each and every one of us have respect, honor, and dignity as we voice our opinions about what is to to go forth for this county. These and other blessings we pray. Amen. All right. Each uh panel member, I think you have an agenda before you. At this time, I'd like to ask if there are any amendments or uh that needs to be done to the agenda. Seeing that there are none, um may I get a motion to accept the

agenda as is. Mr. Chairman, Mr. Chairman, I move that we accept the agenda as it is. Second. Motion was made by Mr. Kendrick, seconded by Mr. Nicely. All in favor, show of hands. I have one question. Oh, a my apologies. I didn't know if we wanted to give Mr. Lint a chance to go before Oh, never mind. Not He is before the public hearings. He is. All right. Okay. Uh so all in favor with the agenda as is uh show of hands. Agenda passes unanimously. Next on the agenda is approval of the minutes from March 11th. Right. Take a moment to review those. Right. Are there any corrections that need to be made from anyone's observation? Seeing that there are none, if I can get a motion uh to for the approval of the minutes. Make a motion we approve the minutes for March 11th, 2025. All right. Record show that a motion was made by Miss Denise and seconded by um who was that? Mr. Corner. Uh all in favor show hands and I. All right. Anyctions? I think

the approval pass unanimously. Okay. Next is our citizens public uh comment period. All right. This is a uh the period where will be limited to three minutes per person to afford everyone an opportunity to speak. If comments relate to a specific public hearing item, please offer them at the time of the public hearing. So, let me put this in another way. If you are here to speak about something specific such as green energy venture or uh any other specific project, you will speak when that uh comes up in public hearing. Otherwise, if you have uh something other than what is uh further down the agenda, you may now um speak. So public hearing, I'm sorry, public hearing uh comment period is now open and think first I have Deborah, Miss Deborah Fairfax. Very well. All right. Okay. There are no other one no others listed at this period. Uh is there anyone else who wish to speak? All right. Seeing that there are none, the um public comment period is now closed. Right. Seeing that there was no comments, I don't see no need for a discussion. All right. Next on the agenda is the community planning leance officer naval support uh facility south Ptoic dog, Mr. Adam Lynch. Mr. Lynch, are you here? Right. He did let us know he wasn't going to be here. Uh, yes. Else you did.

Okay. All right. Next on the agenda is old business. Um, an action on resolution PC-03-25 application Z-2024-0000219 Davis Hill Development Special exception which was deferred from March 11th of 2025. Good evening. Evening, sir. Uh, good to see you all again. Uh, my name is Will Thurman. I work for Davis Hill Development and, uh, we're discussing the Daisy Lane Solar Project. Uh, I know, uh, the planning commission has seen some of this information before, so I'll try and go quickly. I know there's a lot on the agenda, but uh I'll take some time to focus on the previous items that we kind of focused on. Uh you can go to the next slide. Um so just about Davis Hill Development. Uh we're a developer, owner, and operator of community solar and commercial industrial solar projects. Uh this is just a little bit about our parent company, Sky View Ventures. Uh Davis Hill Developments, right there in the middle. Um we've been around since 2013. um have been developing community solar projects uh since the inception. So we do have a lot of experience in the space. Uh have other projects in Virginia as well as kind of across the the northeastern US. So this is just kind of a statement of our qualifications. Uh basically just a background on what our company does day-to-day. Um our capabilities origination development. So we're finding the sites, we're reaching out to land owners in the area. um providing information to them and seeing if they

would like to sign up and host a community solar farm. Uh we use the GIS systems to locate those facilities. Uh we do all the interconnection applications and information inhouse. So we're filling out the information for the utility in this case Dominion. Uh going through the full study process with them. Um conditional use permitting. It's kind of what we're doing right now for the special exemption. Uh then we also have construction management uh project finance and asset operations. So we build build our projects own and operate them with the full asset management team and uh provide the financing ourselves. Um so just experience we've uh successfully developed 30 grid tide facilities. Uh so over 250 megawatts currently under development. And you can go to the next slide. So this is just kind of a map of uh projects that we've done in the past. As you can see, it's uh predominantly, you know, mid-Atlantic northeast. Um you can go to the next slide. These are just a few photos of uh previous community solar farms that we've developed. Um and then this is just a highle slide on what is community solar. So essentially we build a community solar farm. uh we sell that or the power that is generated at that facility gets exported to the grid. Uh people in the area can subscribe to the project and get discounted power bill discounted rates on their power bill. Uh we're usually seeing around 5 to 15% savings. So this is just a way for community members to utilize green energy uh without having you know actual panels on their roofs and uh having to install it theelves. So this is just kind of the high level

project details. Uh so this project is 2.7 megawws AC. Uh it's the array footprint is taking up around 12 acres of the 83 total acre parcel. Uh so this this specific site will have 6,448 modules. Uh we will participate in the Virginia Department of Conservation Recreational Pollinator Smart Program, meaning we're planting pollinator species underneath uh the panels and the array footprint. Uh essentially making sure that the land stays valuable uh throughout the life cycle of the project. Then when the project is finished, we would decommission it. We provided a decommissioning plan to the county which is essentially you know taking apart the solar facility and bringing the land to its uh original state hopefully better. Um I think I ran over that last part. It's you know we're looking at 10 to 15% savings uh for subscribers and we dedicate 30% of the energy to low to moderate income households. Uh I understand this is this hard to see from you know most people's vantage point but this is the uh layout of the project. Um that's street coming up to the south is Daisy Lane. Uh you come into the parcel which I said was 83 acres. That footprint inside the fence is uh about 12 and a half acres. So this is uh visual analysis. We do like highlevel concept plans of of what different vantage points would see throughout the project. Um this is based on you know existing conditions and then growth projections after. Go to the next

slide. So the top left is just like a highle aerial view of the project. As you can see, there's mature forest surrounding the project. Uh we see this as a big advantage to the project because, you know, we're not taking away uh it's not visually an eyesore. Uh it won't be seen from pretty much every direction. Uh and we're utilizing existing forest. We're not cutting mature trees. Um and we are not impacting any wetlands, etc. You can go to the next slide. So this is a list of the proposed conditions uh that were agreed upon by the county and ourselves. These are essentially just the regulatory requirements that we would have to fulfill uh to get our permit and continue operation. I I think it would probably be redundant to go through each one of these, but uh county has put them in place and they're available on the website. So this is just an example of a a flyer and community outreach that we did. This is actually the exact one that we mailed out to budding property owners for this project. So some some of you may have received this. Uh basically just giving a high level project summary. This is saying the size, the acreage, give a small snapshot of the design just to show you where it is. Um and then kind of give you the key benefits that I' I've laid out here. So this is uh kind of the new information uh addressing some concerns or questions that were brought up at the last public hearing. Uh I know noise or noise was a concern. Um you know the project will be a noise disturbance in the future. Um and what I did not have last time was our inverter specification sheet which I provided here. I know it's hard to see. Uh I have some printouts as well, but essentially the key information on that sheet is what's

highlighted is the uh noise emission level, maximum noise emission level. Um and that comes to be 69 dB. Um and I just got a few examples of what 69 dB really sounds like. Um so 69 dB is about the same as a normal conversation at a distance of 3 feet. Uh it's quieter than a household vacuum which is typically around 70 to 80 dB. Um our closest setback is 50 ft uh which would make the sound level approximately 45 dB. 45 dB is the equivalent to a normal or quiet conversation at home, a suburban neighborhood at night or a refrigerator uh humming in the room over. So just those are just a few examples to say listen this this is a very quiet system. uh it will be essentially inaudible specifically with the setbacks we have as well as the you know vegetative screening in existing tree cover around the array community benefit. I know I I spoke about it a few on the slides but uh various members said you know we want to understand more what this does to our community and how it benefits it. Um, I think the largest benefactor is the the local energy savings for residents and small businesses. Um, you know, typically, like I said, saving 5 to 15%. While that sounds somewhat minimal, this is, you know, an opportunity for for people to invest in green energy, like I said, and not have to put the panels in the system and go through that process of doing it themselves. You can subscribe and uh you're generate or you're getting local clean power within your community. um tax revenue. So, we're expected to generate around 250,000 uh in tax revenue over the life cycle of the project. Understand that some other projects may, you know, make that number

look minimal. Uh I think what we like to say is, you know, we're generating a new tax revenue, but we're also not taking away from the public services that require it. So, you know, this is a system that operates without any manpower after construction. Uh there's an asset management crew, but we're not creating uh any additional burden to new schools. We're not using uh mun municipal water or source system. So, you're essentially just giving a tax revenue without the uh the burden. So, it's a net positive to the the county is how I like to look at it. Um and then just other benefactors, you know, we try to look at this as not a distant power plant. Uh it's a community centered energy solution. We're very open to partnering with, you know, different members of the community, educational groups, uh to provide, you know, we we've done school visits in the past, uh local colleges or other studies come out and study um the power that we're generating, how the system impacts the environmental conditions underneath. So, I I think there's a lot of different opportunities to involve the community as much as they want to be involved or just kind of be that quiet neighbor that is uh working and generating power in the back without being a burden on the county. Uh I know a big topic was the construction management and mitigation measures. Um we understand that the county could have concerns about construction and you know damage to the roadway. Um, I think one of the conditions listed from the county kind of covers this. Um, but also we're open to doing, you know, a pre pre-construction road survey, documenting what the road conditions are prior, doing a post construction evaluation. If anything seems to be harmed or damaged, uh, we would

obviously be on the hook to repair that, but just want to read what condition 17 states. uh a construction man traffic management plan and mitigation measures shall be developed by the applicant and submitted to the county and Virginia Department of Transportation for review. Plan shall address traffic control measures and pre and post construction road evaluation and any necessary repairs to the public road that are required. Uh if a traffic issue arises during the construction of the project, applicants shall develop with input from the county and VOTE appropriate measures to mitigate the issue. So I think you know that condition is really holding us accountable. Uh has something in writing that states you know we are liable for this. Uh even though I don't expect that to be an issue. Um construction is six to eight eight months long. Uh usually one to two heavy deliver heavy truck deliveries uh a month and then the rest are you know local pickup trucks, local uh utility vehicles. Uh, one other topic that was not on there that I know was discussed was kind of the inter interconnection upgrade locations. Um, unfortunately I had a large printout for you all. FedEx office gave me the wrong order. So, I I sincerely apologize for that. I really was prepared to lay that out in front of you. Um, and I will get that over as soon as I get the correct copy, but did just want to give a high level uh summary of where those locations are. Um, so at the project site, you know, it goes up Daisy Lane. Um, inside our fence, they'll be adding Can you Sorry, can you pull the picture back up and just show us on the map? Yes, you can go back one. Um, you know, like I said, it's going to

be tough to see here, and I apologize for not having the print out. So, there at the bottom is okay, there you go. So, below there, what you cannot see is Daisy Lane leading up to the array. Um, at that kind of southern portion of the array, uh, the utility as in Dominion will be adding several poles to tie into the existing system. Um, I believe it's three poles and, uh, two pads for transformers. To the south of that, there's existing singlephase power that runs through Daisy Lane. So, that'll be be that will be upgraded to three-phase. There'll be no additional poles. it will just be upgrading the existing poles and then as you pop out Daisy Lane to Ernest Ellis uh the wires get buried there. So, we won't be adding any poles. We'll be upgrading the existing underground um wiring and then as it shoots out to Dogren Road, uh we'll be upgrading any singlephase that was not previously three-phase and then tying in to the Dogren Road three-phase, which then goes down to Arnold's Corner substation. So there is already existing three-phase coming down dog road. Yes. Thank you. And there's a rightway that comes up Daisy Lane. There's already utility easement because there's existing power lines there. Correct. Thank you. Yeah, those were the main ones I wanted to address, but happy to answer questions. Well, while I have it, chair, just one last question about the power. about some others later, but um are you

paying for the cost of the upgrades to to those utility services? Yes. Uh I apologize for not mentioning that previously. This is all privately funded. Nothing goes to the community and or tax members. We are paying the full interconnection upgrade cost through Dominion. They're doing the work, but we're paying the money for it. Thank you. Perfect. you you opened the field. Any other questions? All right, sir. U committee flatter, you have the floor. Um, so I I was really interested in the pollinator smart program and I looked at the comprehensive manual uh for the Virginia Pollinator Smart Certification. It outlines all the steps needed to become a uh certified pollinator smart. Um, and it says that you the steps are needed to be executed by a qualified professional. Do you have a qualified professional that is going to manage the uh certification process? Yes. So, we we sub that out to a third party that is qualified. Um, they put together a pollinator friendly seed mix all based on the soil types uh and documentation and then they implement the pollinator species into the array. And if you um decide to do grazing, are the two things compat compatible? Both the uh pollinator smart and the sheep grazing. That's a good question actually. Chad, do you know the answer to that? Sorry, Chad. Other ones up here. We just didn't want to stand by each other. Yeah. No, you have to. Sorry about that. All right. Uh yeah, so the seed mix we would be using is uh pollinator friendly. Um it's also conservation friendly, so it'll be tailored to specific species that are threatened here in Virginia and also uh provide forage for grazing species. So we're

kind of doing three in one with our our future plans, but u it will be effective for all three of those uses. Um also number seven on the pollinator smart scorecard allows for the use of insecticide. Um, are you committed to prohibiting the use of insecticides and herbicides on the project site? Um, and are you willing to add that to the list of your conditions? Uh, number 10 on your list of conditions, it just says that the applicant will work with the county to identify species. Um and so I just this is important to me and if you're going to attract uh native and um pollinators and then not you know and use pesticide and insecticide you're actually doing more harm than good. Um I can't speak to exactly why we need to use insecticides or pesticides. Um you know as far as or really the insecticides the pesticides I can say would be to treat invasive species that are potentially out competing the pollinator habitat that we're trying to implement. So there are some give and take there. Uh understand the bees don't that the pesticide doesn't know the difference between the bees and the other pests. Right. Sure. Um, thank you. Yeah, he reminded me that herbicides is really what would be used on the invasive plants, not an insecticide or pesticide. So, I apologize for misspeaking there. Um, but you're right. You know, a bee doesn't know the difference between an invasive species or a non-invasive species. Um, nor what has been treated and what has not been treated. So, um there's definitely a give and take there when trying to, you know, provide habitat and and how you can best do that. Um and the guidelines that we're seeing in the pollinator smart program is that it is

appropriate to use those types of uh treatments to uh establish pollinator habitat. And so, unfortunately, that's not an expert. And so, we following their guidelines on on how to best implement that habitat. So, are you are you committed? So participating in something doesn't mean that you're going to uh get to the level of certification. So I just want to kind of gauge your commitment to this. Uh 80 points is certified pollinator smart. And so uh that something that you guys think that you can achieve? Yes, it is. Um I'm just trying to answer your question because like I said, we're not the experts and we take the information from the experts. So do you think we could provide you with come back with a response on what they plan to use if they do plan to use that and provide their logic for using that just as a better understanding? I think we have to act on this today. I don't think there is any coming back with more information for us. Okay. Um Mr. Chairman. Yes sir. Um they can always defer if they want to but it has to come from them not you all. I think we'd like to defer until we have more information which we can discuss with the board of supervisors. M Mr. Chairman, before you all act on that, there's one other thing. Um, as we've been looking through the new ordinance that the board adopted in December of 2024, there is an anomaly in that ordinance and there's a weird little provision that gives all utilities an exemption from the noise ordinance. So, I would also suggest that the applicant may want to offer a condition that specifically says the applicant uh and project shall abide by the King George County noise ordinance period.

That's that's fine with us. Happy to put that into condition. Very well. Thank you, sir. Thank you for answering my questions. Thank you. There any other questions? Yeah, Mr. Chairman, I have a couple other questions. Yeah, the floor is there. Um, I'd like to get a little more information about this subscriber and customer process that you have here. Um, are there any restrictions to who can be a subscriber? Someone from California logs on and subscribes. Can they be a subscriber to a project here in Virginia? What is the one of the really route I'm getting to is what is the real benefit of the residents of King George? Is there any preference that can be given to the residents of King George that are agreeing to let you put this facility into the county? I'd hate to have it be wide open and then everybody from Northern Virginia logs in and subscribes to the 200 subscriber, you know, openings that you had and zero people in King George get the benefit. No, understood. And uh to answer your question, no, people from California cannot. It's it's a Virginia program, but it does not answer your question on uh you know, northern other residents. uh we would give priority to the community members in the county first. If there was not enough subscribers in the local community to fill up that subscription, we would go, you know, broaden just, you know, broaden the the web. Yeah, certainly you have to be financially viable and we wouldn't want you to restrict yourself to the point to where you can't do that if not enough King George people get in. But just trying to get a gauge of of the sense of the value to the county for that. So it is it is a Virginia only residence. Correct. for this particular program through Dominion. Yes, sir. Okay. Thank you. The other one I want to just make clear on your statement about

the revenues you were estimating 249,000 over the life cycle. So that's roughly and if I saw previously your life cycle is 25 years, correct? So you're roughly $10,000 a year worth of tax revenue coming in. Correct. Roughly equivalent to three to four homes here in the county. Yep. And like I said, the the tax revenue is is not a a big driver, but uh we do like to call it out because like I said, you're you're upfront with what your thing is. Um the the last one that I have is I you made some passing comments. Can you give us any more details about was it what is in your decommissioning plan? We did not see that in any of in any of the attachments. I don't expect it to be. I assume is it is it correct to assume that you're going to basically pull out everything? We've not heard anything about your construction techniques. Are you doing big concrete pilings and and burying wires and and you got to rip everything back up out of the ground? You know, what what does your decommissioning plan include? Yeah. So, it's a it's a full plan of all the materials that are included. uh gives you value of all those materials and then the decommissioning bond is based on the value of that project. But it's exactly that. It's uh how you decommission the facility as in take everything out and replace it to the condition that it was before we got there. Um in this case, it would likely look better because it's, you know, overgrown. Uh but yes, the decommissioning plan is literally a step-by-step guide of how we would decommission the system to bring it to its life uh back to its original form. So that does include a decommissioning bond. Correct. To to cover those expenses in case something should happen and the company goes defunct and correct. So it's a we provide a estimate of the total project costs. uh the

county comes up with or agrees to that bond amount or can negotiate the bond amount, but ultimately that bond amount number comes from the county. Uh for the county staff, is there any reason to include that sort of the statement in the profiters or is that just part of the plan naturally and it does not need to be added here? It was included in the full application packet that you all received at the last meeting um and we have reviewed it. It is a requirement in the conditions and in the performance standards for any solar project. So it would be required to get agreed to by the county staff before they get a building permit anyway. Yes. Thank you. Yeah. You're welcome. All right. Are there any other u comments or questions at this time from the commission? Seeing that there are none. Do we really want to defer this? It's it's his option. He he he has the option to do so as well. Regarding the pollinator, what do I want to say? So, we don't ever intend to use herbicides and pesticides. I'm just a little caught off guard that it was in that plan. So, I'm wondering if there was a specific reason that our consultants provided in that plan. So, I don't I'm having trouble committing to that, but I would say 99% of our products don't. So, yes, sir. I think the question I have with Miss Plattley is are you committed to um being credentialed under the program or are you committed to participate? I see those as two levels of engagement and we certainly prefer the stronger. Yeah. No, we are committed to getting

the the full awarded points to be fully in the program. Uh I just we can't I can't say 100% that we will meet their criteria. We are going to go down the checklist and do everything we can to meet those steps. Um, so we are committed to aggressively being in the program. I can't determine if we will successfully do that. I think my uh my concern was that when I looked at number 10 in the in the conditions, it said that you were going to use county staff to determine what plants to plant. And when I looked at the certification program, it says you need a qualified professional to manage the program. So are you willing to put in the conditions that you're going to use a contractor as your qualified professional in order to you know do best effort to achieve certified pollinator smart? Yes 100% we are happy to commit to that. Yeah. Um is that so the only remaining outstanding item is the uh uh condition of adhering to county noise ordinance. Is that am I correct? Is that Yeah. And we and we and we will Yeah. I said I'm happy to include that as a condition. We we're very confident that we will not violate that NOR's ordinance. Okay. All right. Does this need to be kind of rewritten and then we could maybe make a motion on it later this evening time to you can make a motion to approve the resolution with the addition of that condition. Correct. And and the second thing about the pollinator program. All right. Are there any any other comments

or questions for our guest? Right. All right. Thank you. All right. Are there any other further discussion that we we would like to take up at this time among us? Yes. Yeah. I think this is a poor use of land than the county. It's the back end of a neighborhood. There's one route in and out. It's a natural extension point for that neighborhood. The county needs residential homes. This would be a much better spot for that versus bulldozing, you know, a tree lot somewhere or bulldozing another farm and it generates pretty much no revenue, which housing development expanded into here would, you know, generate a heck of a lot more revenue than this would for the county. I don't I it just seems like it's a short-term waste. Mr. Park, you have the floor. I'm I'm stunned at the scrutiny that we're placing on this tiny little solar farm. yet. We passed a 1300 acre solar farm last month with almost no similar level of scrutiny. I'm I'm a little I'm a little stunned by that. So, I mean, we're worried we're getting in the weeds about pollinators and and using a piece of land that's not really viable for anything else. And I mean, if if you're asking me, this is the way to start with solar. You got a small plot, you see how it works. You don't take up an area that's designated for rural growth and say you're going to put a the biggest solar farm or the only solar farm we have in the county there. So, I don't have any problems with this one. I think it's a good way to start. I totally agree with that. As far as the dollars, the dollars are the same, I believe, as last month. It's just a smaller project. It's per acre. It's the same. It all works out the same. It's all same same. It's just it's just a smaller smaller solar farm and you don't have I guess the only difference could be the sheep

part of it which is actually carbon footprint and the the logging the 600 acres. But besides that, it's we really want to redate last month. Yeah. So, I'm just saying it's the same thing. Let's just get a vote. Okay. Yeah. I was going to say at this point I think um it's all a matter of opinion. So um I'm looking for a motion at this time. All right. I might need some help on this. Uh, I move that we forward application Z2024-0000219 to the King George Board of Supervisors with a favorable recommendation on the conditions that applicant um includes in his conditions that the Pollinator Smart program will be managed by a qualified professional and that he will uh they will adhere to the county noise ordinance. Could could we just say with the conditions listed as amended by the planning commission with the conditions as amended by the planning commission. I further move that the planning commission finds this project to be in substantial accord with the comprehensive plan. Right. Motion has been made by Miss Flattery. Second. Uh Mr. Cord, I'm sorry that's Mr. Kendrick. I second a motion um with a show of hands and uh or vote of eyes. I can do a roll call. Favor. I'll do a roll call. Yes. I apologize. We're going to do a roll call. Okay. Mr. Parker, affirmative.

Mr. Mr. Dorta. Hi Mr. Palota. Yes. Mr. Kendrick. Hi. Mr. Matet. Hi. Miss Flattley. I. Mr. Meyers. I. Mr. Nicely. Hi. And Mr. Williams. I. Motion carries. All right. Motion carries. Thank you. Okay. I'm just Next is our public hearing section. Um, first is resolution uh PC04-25 application Z-2024-0000239 TWWR marine reszoning. Uh, so is that is that applicant here? Okay. Thank you, sir. I'm just going to introduce Taylor. Um, he was here last month giving his presentation, and I'll just give a staff overview of the application for the public. U, Mr. Whitaker has applied to reszone approximately 2.39 acres of land from R1 to C2 general commercial. The subject property is located at 459 James Madison Parkway just west of the intersection with PTOIC drive. The proposed use of the property is to construct and operate a boat showroom with service bays and approximately 6,000 square feet of flex commercial space. The property lies within the Dogrren settlement area as designated in the comprehensive plan. A key policy for future development in the Dogrren settlement area states that commercial development is recommended to follow the existing prevailing

development pattern along Route 301. This area of King George is home to several residences, businesses, and NSF Dalgrren and the area served by public utilities. The application was reviewed by all county and state reviewing agencies and their comments were addressed throughout the review process. And these same agencies will have the opportunity to comment during the site plan review if it gets that far. Resolution PC-04-25 along with draft motions are included in your packet. And I'll turn this over to Mr. Whitaker. Thank you, Kelly. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Uh my name is Taylor Whitaker. Uh my family and I are TRW Marine and tackle and we are local residents here in King George with me tonight. I have my engineer uh Mr. Larry Wilford. Again, thank you Kelly for giving us a summary from last month's meeting. Uh it's a resoning application for current residential property. But first, I'd like to take the opportunity to introduce you to the TRW family. my wife of 22 years, Kristen, and my sons, Fiser and Hudson. As a military family, we've retired here in King George. As anglers and mariners, we cherish the water. We've never been away from it, and we desire to expand our investment in the community through the establishment of TRW Marine and a business center. Uh, next slide, please. It's okay. Uh you can go you can go ahead and go one more. Thank you. TRW Tackle is what we're currently doing. Uh it's our

handmade and custom lure brand that's been servicing local anglers part-time over the last three years via the King George Farmers Market on Saturdays. Uh this is a photo from last year's Halloween booth. TRW Marine will be dedicated to the sale of recreational watercraft, specifically Bassost. Um and we have a verbal agreement with Yamaha Motors and Skerbo Boats. Uh but it's not just about us. Our plan provides space and opportunity for other entrepreneurs as well. G TRW Marine and Tackle is our opportunity to build a life around a passion. uh to build a family-owned business, to invest in our community, and to support our local anglers and watermen. Next slide, please. Good evening. As Taylor said, my name is Larry Welfford and I'm with Welfford Engineering and I'm sort of the technical guy. So, I'm going to give you the details of what's being proposed on the site. Um, we're going to talk a little bit about the existing conditions of Taylor's site, uh, what we're planning to do with the site, and then how our plan meets the county's needs and comprehensive plan requirements. Um, our site is located just inside the red the red uh shape right there. The site is parcel number 9-76 on the on the county system and its address is on James Madison Parkway. So, it is on fronts on 301. The site, as as Kelly said, is 2.39 acres. It's currently zoned R1 and it is also currently vacant. There used to be a residence there. It it is no longer there. Um, so we are near Benian Road. Benian Road is right over here. Here's James Madison Parkway and PTOAC Drive also is adjacent

to our site which leads to the intersection with Benian Road. So we're also very close to to Dogrron. What we're planning to do is to to do what's called equipment sales, rental and repair. Specifically, it's related to boats. Um and it'll be uh we'll show you some details of that. And then there's also a commercial component uh with some retail. Um, I think Taylor wants to talk just a minute about next slide, please. The um the products that he plans to sell. Thank you, Larry. Our marine products will be exclusively skeer boats and Yamaha outboard engines with an overall trailered length somewhere between 21 and 24 ft. The dealership will include three service bays for warranty maintenance and shall employ Yamaha certified master technicians per agreement. Our dealership will also inherit the warranty and maintenance support for all current uh Yamaha owners in the region. The showroom floor will include the latest options for trolling motors, grapping displays, and boating accessories. Um again, what we currently do, our fishing rods and tackle products are hand selected, tuned, painted, and sealed by my boys and I. We lean heavy on local productive patterns learned through our varied community anglers, our own experience, and our customers. This is a little bit more about our site. Um, when the site is reszoned, we'll be seeking uh C2 resoning. And again, this is a little bit of a blow up. The red the red outline is the limits of the property. And again, this is Route 301 and this is PTOAC Drive down here. Um, there is a residence immediately adjacent to us here to the south and there is a commercial property to the north just before the intersection with with Benny

and Drove uh Drive. Next slide, please. So, this is what the site will look like. And it's um it's our orientation again is here's Route 301 um and here's PTOAC Drive. The the boat showroom and service bays will be located right here on this part of the site. In addition, there will be a boat display area out near uh RI 301 obviously to attract customers. Our entrance will be here. I'll talk about that in a little more detail. Um, and then this will be a commercial center right here. And it we've called it flex commercial because it will it could be retail, it could be office, it could be a combination of both. So there'll be a little bit of flexibility on it. So the the principal uses on the site are the boat dealership and service and then the retail sales. Next slide, please. So, this application asks that the uh county consider reszoning to C2, which is general commercial, and that will then permit the uses that Taylor wants to put on the site. Um the future land use by the county as determined by the county comprehensive plan is indeed comprehensive and uh excuse me is commercial and Kelly um was pointed out that this plan is very much consistent with that with that county plan. Next slide. So we wanted you to just get a view of what the site looks like today. Um in general the the grades are relatively flat. This is uh 301. Uh the site is vacant. The the house that's there is is gone now. Um and the primary frontage is on James Monroe Parkway. Next slide. So again, I showed you the the uh the boat room, the uh boat showrooms and

the um the service areas and so forth. The flex commercial is likely to be small retailers. There could be some offices. You'll notice here that we have two entrances. I want to point out there is an entrance on PTOAC drive and we do have one on 301. Next slide. Um our development program to be specific is that the boat showroom and sales uh and service will be 5,400 square ft proposed. The retail flex office will be about 6,000 square feet. So the total development program is just around 11,400 square feet. Um those uses require 35 parking spaces. Our plan provides for 42 parking spaces. So there'll be a little bit of extra parking on the site. Next slide. Thank you. Um there's always infrastructure concerns with a with a project like this and I want to talk about them briefly. Um I showed you where the two entrance points are to the site. Uh the principal entrance will entrance will be on James Monroe Parkway. That entrance location has been approved by VOTE. It's unusual to be at this point in the project and have VOTE agree that that is where the entrance will be. That's because we had to go through an access management waiver because we were too close to the next interse. They have agreed this is the best location for the site and it's consistent with the fact that PTOAC drive is not always open. There are times during the day that PTOAC drive is closed by the the base and when it's closed we would have no access to the site if we did not have an entrance off of James Madison Parkway. So we're pleased to point out that that has already been taken care of. water and sewer. We have public water and sewer uh

that will be provided through the King George Service Authority. We have some details to work out with them and we will do that. Storm water management, it will be on site for this property uh because we will be introducing more impervious area. Next slide, please. In many sites, there's things called other considerations. There's always things that challenge us with these sites. Um in this case wetlands there are none. Flood plane there is none. Uh the RPA's there are none. And finally the HCOD which is a highway corridor overlay district there is but that's not a burden to us. We can deal with the highway corridor overlay district requirements. So this is a an relatively unconstrained site for a commercial use. At this point, as we begin to wrap up, I'm going to turn it back over to to Taylor. Thank you, Larry. In summary, my family and I desire the opportunity to invest in our community by providing products and services that we have a passion for um and we feel are under reppresented here in King George. Uh we are not speculative investors. Uh we own the property and we are committed to our vision. Our location was carefully chosen. We have followed due process. Chairman, members of the commission, pending your questions, that's all we have. Thank you, Mr. Taylor. Um, your uh decision to and uh embark upon this endeavor. Um, I'm sure it's it's a family affair that you've you've pointed out. Um, a commitment of of your your life savings. Um, just one, it's it's a bit of a personal question, but I'll ask. What

made you choose King George? So, I've uh it's hard to answer that in a short way. Um, I I've being a military guy, um, we've lived all over the place. We've lived in Europe. Exactly. So, that that gives you opportunities to see other places. Had a lot of choice. Yeah. Um, I grew up in San Diego. I get that question all the time. Why didn't I go home? Uh, I fell in love with this place. Um, right when I came back. Um, one of my last tours here was the Bomb Squad on Dogg. And it was it was my dream job. I I loved it. I love this area. Um, my family can attest to it. And I've come always having been an angller. Uh, this place is a gem, a hidden gem. and I'd like it to stay that way for as long as possible. But no, I I fell in love with this place. So, we've established roots here and this has become my retirement home. Thank you. All right, committee. The uh floor is now open upon acknowledgement. Is there any questions? Mr. Kendrick, you have the floor. Um just a question to the applicant. Last month when you were before us, you commented that you have not secured funding for this project and you're looking at a timeline of several years. That is correct, sir. Okay. So, we approve assuming that approval is granted, the lot would sit vacant for a couple years until you secure funding. That is correct. I will build as soon as I have funding. All right. So question and answer. I'll come back when we're discussing internally. Or what? Mr. Chairman, you have the floor, sir. Yeah. Um, my question is actually for the county staff. I noticed a comment in in the write up that talked about how the applicant has been in contact with

the county engineer regarding future utility hookups. Engineer comments included that there is currently no water capacity in this area. Do we have any update? I mean, what's the likelihood this gentleman was going to secure lots of funding and go investing in things and then he can't hook up to the county water? Yeah, I did bring that up and during the first review because it did concern me and I immediately passed it over to Taylor. Um, I don't see Mr. Young here tonight. I was hoping he was going to be here. I thought this question would come up, but I think Larry and Taylor could probably address it better than I could. I certainly can, sir. Um, so I had a phone conversation with Mr. Young regarding this situation. Uh and he advised me that they were the Dogrren area in particular was having some issues with their with their current uh waterline. Um given that um our discussion flowed in that uh we're not currently at the site plan stage, probably not going to be there for some time still. Um and he um expressed to me that it shouldn't probably be a concern if it if we're looking more down the line of like a year or two years before going through a site plan and doing an actual build. Um he should have the issue resolved by then. If not, it's a discussion for them. So it's possibly that it's a short-term situation with the condition of the of the Dow public water Yes, sir. system, not a general overall plan that there's a restriction. Okay. and and I I think the the wording is more accurate to say that not that there's no water, but he has a concern, okay, of the water. Um, so a follow up to Mr. Kendrick's question in a way is is your ability to secure funding for this investment require this approval of your zoning? In other words, is is is it going to hurt you if we do not approve this now

because you don't have a real business plan um it could have an impact um because a commercial I I would probably be um uh refinancing if you will uh or or getting um using this as loan and collateral um to secure financing in a commercial property might lend to a little bit more dollars and cents than a residential property that has nothing on it. Sir, thank you. So before we go any further, uh those who are standing, there are a couple of seats in the front if you wish uh to sit that is open just to for your knowledge. All right. Do we have any other questions from the committee? Right. Yes, sir. Sorry. Before you open the public comment, I just want to bring this to attention of the commission. Um although this is their intention is to do I think boat service and uh lures and such and um that there's no condition or profer in this to tie that to the reszoning. So just want the planning commission to understand that if you reszone it to commercial you can do anything under by right that you want to do. One of the most recent things I've seen that's caused a little bit of consternation was in South Stafford where and you can do a medical clinic by right under commercial here and they did a methodone clinic there which upset the neighborhood right much. So I just point that out to you all if you want to ask questions or have thoughts about limiting the available uses under commercial or tying this to to actually the sales and service and repair boats. So, we we've heard uh comments from council uh with those comments. Are there any other questions uh from

that from those comments? Yes, I'd like to go back to the council and ask so can we make that as a condition to this resoning? I know it would be I don't think it's something that we could tie to a zoning change. I I think it would be better if the applicant profered uh any limitations or restrictions than for you all to offer conditions. Okay. But is it something that could be tied to a zoning change? Yes, sir. they can proper um that all uses um the only use under the resoning shall be the sale service rental of boats and not going to use any of the other categories by right or there are number of ways you could do it. They could profer away the uses of a medical clinic or anything else that was concerning. It's just however you want to do it but they they need to profer. Thank you sir. All right. You had a floss commercial area. So I'd be fine with that specified retail sales and service. Yeah. So I'll ask the applicant, is that something that you would be willing to uh to do? Absolutely. All right. Okay, Mr. Mr. Chairman, may I just be clear with the applicant? You're you're willing to profer that the only by right use under commercial would be it said sales and service and rental equipment. Kelly's pulling it up real quick. I just want Okay. Also said you said retail, did you not? Um retail sales and service. Okay, I think Kelly's got the language. Yeah,

equipment sales, rental and repair is the C2. That's a buy right use. And then um they I know they would talk about flex retail or office space which are also allowed under C2. Just would ask the applicant to state that he's profering that voluntarily, Mr. Chairman, if that's what he wants to do. Yeah. So as council has uh suggested is um to profer uh in the in the in which the the application in which you have have written. Is that something you're willing to do? It is Kelly. I'm going to have to get with you on what language you want me to put in there. Very well. And that's something too that we can make sure we have all taken care of for the board. Very well. It's nice that you had a floor. I I do have some questions about that though because do we really want to tie this property to one thing forever? And right now it butts against residential property, but our comp plan says that this is going to become probably creep into more commercial. And um I I'm trying to figure out what the benefit to the county would be to limit this to one or two commercial uses. So, um, any other thoughts on that? I do want to vote. I mean, I think that's a great idea and I commend your your business plan. So, I'll I will repeat what I stated last month. I I have a basic philosophical problem with doing a zoning change on a speculative type of a project, you know, two years in advance. I have no reason to not believe this applicant that it is his intention to follow through, seek

funding, and go ahead with this project. I think it's a wonderful project. I have no problem with that parcel being zoned commercial. it's probably the appropriate way to handle that parcel. My objection is that if his funding or plans fall through or change, then it's commercial and we don't get the opportunity on this commission to see what is actually going to go on the property. And that's something that we have held on to in the past because depending on what it is, we get to see how the site plan functions. We get to see, you know, exactly what the proposed use is and we get comfortable with the idea that it's being done the right way for that parcel in that area. So my objection is totally on the idea that that he's looking two years away. So Mr. I would table that my objection to this project if he profered that the project that he described is is the only one that we're going to allow this project to be, you know, reszoned for. if his project falls through and and he sells the property to somebody else's residential, then we get the opportunity to review that project at a later date. That's where I'm coming from. Mr. D. Sure. Um, my concern is that that to get financing contingent on a zoning request these days might be a burden too far. We do this for a lot of projects. You know, approve it and the financing isn't there

until the the zoning is in place. And in the case of a KG County resident, sailor and um an entrepreneur. I'm encouraged to uh give the break to an entrepreneur than I would be a developer and and restricting it to commercial retail use. Um I think is a compromise that addresses both. I mean we could say no more tobacco huts but you know um that would be an infringement but I think retail service repair equipment you know seat tube meates a lot of the concerns you know we don't want a massage parlor we don't want service we dentist shop we didn't want a lot of things we don't want a methodone clinic it's problematic to exclude those by type under the law. Miss Flatter, you have the floor. I'm just going to say if somebody makes an investment, they buy property, they ask for a reasonzoning, we have ordinances that say what they can do and what they can't do, and if we start putting in our preferences, I don't know that that's necessarily uh the right way to deal with it. Yeah. Would I, you know, do we have preferences? We do. But that's why we have all of the ordinances that we just worked on to say what can go there, what can't go there. And just to say that I like this idea. So that the only idea that that we are going to approve I think is not fair. Mr. Chairman, so you have the floor. I think this goes to a property rights and um a principle in real estate is the highest and best use. So, if we didn't approve his use of commercial, then he's going to build a house or he's going to sell it to somebody that would build a

house and it's definitely in the wrong area. It's absolutely the right thing to make it C2 and the market will speak as to what's the most important C2 use he can use. He wants to do a boat which um excited about that. What are we going to say to the developer who rolls in here and says, "Oh, I want all these different parcels zone C2, but I'm not quite sure yet what I'm going to do with them." But it it's necessary for me to get funding so that I can proceed. I philosophically I just don't I have a problem with we will vote here shortly and it'll go whichever way it goes, but you know, I I agree. made if he made a proper for his project that it would be reszoned only for his project. However, we decide to write it so that it is legal, then he can go, you know, pursue his funding and pursue his construction plans. However, if it falls apart, then we retain the ability to have it revert back to residential and then review the next one who comes in here wanting to change it to commercial property. It wouldn't revert back if we if we change it, council, I mean, it would it would remain only for the use as property and if anybody wanted to change that, then they'd have to come back. So, um, the applicant could, as Mr. Kendrick suggested, um, just say, "I'm going to use the property as described in my presentation, and that's a valid proper, and that covers everything he wants to do." If he did not do that, that reszoning would still run with the land,

and that's the only use that could be on the property until they come back and ask for a reszoning to some other category. Um, and I I don't think I've ever seen a piece of commercial, a piece of property be zoned to commercial and you could do everything under the category that's allowable. It is very normal to either profer away uses or tie it to a particular use. In fact, I think that's almost always looking at my person to the right. I think it's pretty normal. And correct me, council. If let's say that it does fail, uh anyone who comes after uh there's a due process in which they will have to go through to um change to change it. Correct. Yes. Unless they wanted to use it for the same thing that he wants to do. He wants to do the same thing, he could do that there. Anything else, they'd have to come back to the county. Very well. Okay. All right. So, Mr. Chairman, Sure. I'm sorry, sir. Um I I think uh at this time I think we've all made our comments. I think we've we've have somewhat of an idea there. I've got a list that has no names on it. Therefore, um I am going to I am going to open it up for public comment on this um um on this item uh which is resolution PC04-25 TRW Marine Reszoning. Um again, there are no one there are no names on the list. However, the floor is now open for public comment. Right. All right. Seeing that there are none, uh, the public comment for that resolution

PC04-25 TRW Marine Reszoning is now closed. Okay. All right. All right. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Okay. You ready for the next? Yeah. Do we need to make a Is there a need to make a motion? Yeah. Yes. Let's So when I when I look at this, I agree the family and the the fishing store and the boat and all that, but really in essence, this project is a strip mall with that on the side is what it is. So you have more square footage on unknown than you do on known is the way I look at it. It it's there's five units. As far as King George goes, I think we have plenty of strip malls. I I don't know that we need more now. It's right outside of base, so you could probably get a government contractor there or that area is a popular place for fireworks stands. I mean, there's no control. There's no idea what's going on in there. We're not saying it's it's, you know, going to be office space or committing it to office space or committing it to anything really. But I think that's what the the proers would do. Mr. Nicely, you have the floor. Yeah, Mr. Chairman, I I think we're at a point possibly where I would recommend that we uh defer this and allow the applicant to come up with language specific for a profer. I don't think we should be trying to do this real time.

They've heard they've heard the positions here of of the panel and uh I'd like to see what they come back with with specific language for the proper but I'm going to I don't know if I agree with that. Um so if you so what I'm going to do is I'm going to ask for the motion and if a motion is not given then um then we'll address it from there. I'll make a motion that we approve the zoning to C2 for application Z-204-0000239 motion's made. Mr. Chairman, did his motion include the proper by the applicant or not? No. No proper motion's made with no profer. Mr. Williams, if I may, should we allow the applicant to say if he would prefer that we defer until he has time? He has that option. Absolutely. I I'll go ahead and defer and I'll get with very well county and we will All right. The applicant has uh elected to defer. Uh so no action is needed from us at this time. No, you all should make a motion to defer. Motion to defer. All right. If Mr. Mr. Palota wants to withdraw his motion. I would withdraw my motion and make a motion that we defer this to the next meeting. Motion's been made and seconded for the roll call. Is that Mr. Dorta? Second. Okay. I'll I'll

do a roll just to so I have the the record. So the motion is to defer action to the May planning commission meeting. Mr. Parker, affirmative. Mr. Dorta. Mr. Palota. Mr. K. Okay. Mr. Kendrick. Hi. Mr. Matet. Miss Flattley. Hi. Mr. Meyer. Hi. Mr. Nicely. Hi. And Chair Williams. I. Okay. Motion carries. Thank you. All right. Next on our agenda is the resolution for PC05-25 application Z-2022-000021 green energy ventures reszoning application. Um, let him delete. Good evening, Mr. Chairman, members of the commission. I'm Angela Farugi with Bagby Farugi Good Pasture, a contractor for King George County and I'm representing community development this evening to prevent present to you the green energy ventures application. I apologize for the text there. Um there are three requests before you this evening uh in uh association with the project and that includes the reszoning and the application number there as well as a special exception permit to allow the use of data centers within industrial zone property. And

finally the request to allow more than one entrance onto a highway corridor overlay district uh roadway. Uh as you can see here here there here here is the uh the site here in magenta uh tax maps are 2149 2149A 2246A and 2173. The total size of all four of those parcels put together is approximately 356 acres. Uh one of these subject parcels here 2149A is already zoned industrial. You can see that in pink. Whereas the other three are zoned um agricultural, limited agricultural, and they're looking to reszone those to industrial. I'm sorry, I should have given a little uh location here. This is Route Three. We're here at Route Three at the northwest corner of Route 3 and Bloomsberry Road. So again, uh there are three requests before you uh this evening. The first one is to reszone with profers those three tax map parcels uh from A1 to I. They're also voluntarily profering to subject the 2149A which is already zoned industrial to those same profers if the uh other three are reszoned from there. That would allow them if it's reszoned to industrial to request a special exception permit to allow for data center use within industrial zone property in accordance with our zoning ordinance. And then finally, they're they're requesting more than one access point to to an H cod. Um, so we're going to start I have all three in the same presentation unless you guys object to that. No, not at all. And I'm going to ask the um uh commission to refrain from all questions until the end of the presentation, please. Thank you. Very well. Um so we

I'll start here with the the first request which is uh the resoning request. Again that's the same information they're requesting to reszone with profers those three parcels from A1 to industrial and and subject the the remaining parcel to the same profers. I got some general information up here. Yeah, it's a lot of lot of text, but I wanted this is all included within your uh staff report as well. Um again the partials combined are approximately 356 acres in size. Uh the applicant as part of their voluntary prof statement is proposing to give approximately 18 acres of that 356 to King George County andor the service authority um for our use. The data center use they are proposing will contain approximately 7.2 million square feet. That's the maximum uh and that will be developed in phases. The applicant's green energy ventures. Yeah. Only other new information on this slide is that it is located within the route 3 west settlement area and the zoning around the properties A1 A2 and industrial. Yeah. The standards and procedures for re viewing a resoning request are set forth in article three of the zoning ordinance. All of that information is included within your staff report. Um the industrial regulations require that the minimum lot size of any lot is 10 acres and a minimum lot width of 150 ft. There also prescribed setbacks within that uh within that article as well. 50 feet in the front, 20 feet in the side and the rear. Uh all of the parcels within this application uh do already uh conform to those

regulations. Uh yeah. Okay. So here you will see and there's a lot of information on this particular slide, but I wanted to show all the information. This is from the the applicant zoning plan. Um, I have a little bit of a cleaner one on the on the next slide, but here you will see the 7.2 million square feet of data centers. The yellow buildings here along the front are proposed as twotory. The kind of pink red ones here are proposed as threetory. Um, substations are proposed along here. The 18 acre site being dedicated to the county is up here along Bloomsberry Road. Um you can also see we have some environmentally sensitive areas. We'll get into that a little bit later. They have performed a wetland delineation. Um let's see what other information they are proposing the access point. So here here we are along route three. The access points the main access in and out of the site is they refer to this as access point three. We'll talk about that later. Um, and they have two more access points along Route Three. The applicant has uh conducted a traffic impact analysis and with these entrances and and we'll go into their proposed improvements based on the impacts to the network. They also are proposing three access points along Bloomsberry. two of which would enter the site that they're dedicating to the county. One of which would enter um the data center use itself. See, uh the green on the perimeter on the outside is proposed as open space and we'll touch on this later, but they do have sorry interpartial access uh proposed right here, which is required in accordance with our

ordinance when they ask for more than one entrance along a highway corridor. Let's see. Next slide. As promised, a slightly cleaner version of the same uh the same layout here. Uh again, there's the main entrance, which they refer to as access point three. And two more entrances here. Um so I'll leave that there for just a second. I know folks are taking pictures if they want to take a look at that. Okay. Um the the full proposed profers are within your packet. However, I've tried to summarize them here, but the applicant is profering quite a bit. So, there are a lot of um a lot of profers here to go through. I'll try to go through them quickly and then if you have questions at the end, um we we can address those then. So, the permitted primary use of the property will be a data center and accessory uses, including that 18acre dedicated site we talked about. Um, they have profered to generally conform with the zoning plan that I just showed you, uh, and construct no more than 7.2 million square feet of data center on that property. They're proposing to develop it in phases. Phase one will contain no more than 2 and a.5 million square feet. uh they are allowing giving themselves the flexibility to subphase uh by site plans submitted to the county um provided they propose no less than 250,000 square feet per subphase. And phase two will construct the remaining data centers not constructed in phase one subject to that 7.2 million square foot maximum that they have profered. The principal transportation access points were those three that I just the three I showed you along route three and then the three along uh Bloomsberry during phase one of the project and again that's all outlined in

their traffic impact study and analyzed uh will be accessed by that access point three until they uh perform the phase 2 transportation improvements which they have proper. The applicant has agreed to dedicate right ofway along Bloomsberry Road at 60 foot from center line and right ofway along route three at 100 foot from center line. Let's see. Said I noticed a lot of information. Uh these are the improvements. These are all the transportation improvements. Uh the blue text here represents what the applicant will do with phase one and the green what they will do with phase two. And again, these came directly out of the traffic impact statement that their consultant performed. So to hit the highlights here, they are profering to construct a a turn lane at Route Three and that access point three, which is the main entrance uh on the site. also to to construct a right turn lane at Route 3 in Bloomsberry. They will submit a traffic signal warrant analysis, which is also called a signal justification report, to both VOTE and the county to determine if signalization is necessary at Route Three and their full service entrance. Um, one thing that should be noted is that Route 3 is considered an arterial preservation network. Um, so that's what requires this signal justification report be submitted to VOTE. So there is some flexibility. You'll see that written in the profers where they also talk about an arch cut design which is an alternative uh intersection design and that is to meet VOT's arterial preservation network um goals and objectives. So again it it just it gives them the flexibility but this was closely coordinated with VOTE. Um so whether they need to do well whether they'll end up doing a signal or an arch cut design and they will submit um

alternatives for both of those to see what VOTE will approve and accept. Uh okay. Then at phase two they're looking they would profer to construct a right turn lane at their access points four and five which are the other two access points along route three. um and to submit a traffic signal warrant analysis for access point 4. Again, with the same kind of caveats I talked about with the AR cut alternative. And I do know that the applicant has that within their presentation to go over the specifics. Uh but I'm happy to answer any questions after they do. And then they have profered to construct any signal warrant uh or signalization improvements as determined to be warranted by that warrant analysis. Okay, so that was the transportation section. Um, moving on to the buildings. So the number, size, the stories, etc. locations of the buildings will generally conform to the zoning plan. One item of note here is that the building height they are profering will not exceed 65 ft for twotory buildings and 90 ft for three-story buildings. um in accordance with our zoning ordinance as it's currently written uh it within an industrial zone they they cannot exceed 50 ft based on the setbacks that they have but it is staff's understanding that the last board meeting they um proposed an initiating resolution that was the word I was looking for I apologize to allow for that to be considered on a the height the proposed height to be considered on a case- by case basis. See u moving on they've also profered a construction mitigation plan that will with each site plan submission that will address things such as traffic control the timing of constructions to include um coordination with school bus

school buses and their travel. They have profered to set their buildings back at least 200 feet from all public rightway. uh what's required currently is 50 um and at least 70 feet from adjacent property lines. They're looking to provide a 50 foot minimum wide buffer along the perimeter of the property with an emphasis on existing vegetation and tree preservation as well as a security fence of not less than 8 ft in height. In terms of utilities, uh they are initially allowing that the portable water needs uh can be served by temporary groundwater wells. Uh the zoning administrator did provide a determination uh earlier this year and that's also included in your packet to allow for that. However, in no event shall that groundwater be used for water cooling of the data center equipment. They have further profered that if service authority water becomes available to the profer they will I'm sorry to the property they will abandon and discontinue the use of those temporary groundwater wells for even the portable water needs and instead will uh hook up to uh the service authority water supply. Similarly with sewer the project will be uh served by on-site sewage systems. So so private private sewer uh which will be constructed operated and maintained by the applicant until such time that public sewer becomes available to the property and if and when it does they will abandon discontinue their use of their on-site sewage private systems and connect to uh the service authority system instead. uh in terms of environmental they they have profered to provide a phase 2

archaeological evaluation. They did do a cultural uh resource site analysis entitled archaeological assessment um back in September and they've agreed to comply with all mitigation measures that come out of a phase 2 evaluation of the sites that were identified within that first study. uh any historical artifacts that they do find on the property will be maintained either by a county museum or other appropriate recipient as deemed uh as deemed so by the zoning administrator. Uh the applicant will also submit a wetland delineation of the property at the time of site plan and any disturbance into wetlands, flood planes, RPAs will comply with all laws. Uh the applicant has also been working closely with fire and rescue and will submit an emergency access action plan with each of the site plans and the items that are going to be included within that emergency action plan have been um like I said coordinated with Chief Moody and include fire protection suppression sprinkler systems, fire hydrants uh etc. And they will do all of that um prior to receiving occupancy permit. The applicant has agreed to pay the county $2.1 million to mitigate public safety impacts uh and further to make monetary contributions to hire and train department personnel to mitigate uh public safety impacts generated by that project. Generally uh expected not to exceed $100,000. They have also agreed to pay $2 per 100 square feet of data center facilities uh to mitigate the the public safety concern uh which will occur at the issuance of the occupancy permit after the first 250,000 square foot of um data

center and then it will reoccur annually based on that total amount of square footage of data center. They've also profered to dedicate that 18 acre site that we talked about earlier. Um thought to be to be used for a 50,000 square foot or or approximate public safety facility to develop a public park, water treatment facility or other public uses as determined by the county andor service authority. Um, from an architectural standpoint, you can see those on sheet seven of the zoning plan, which is included within your packet, but they're incorporating design techniques to break up the facade of each building so that it does, you don't, you know, look like you're looking at blank or unarticulated walls. Um, they're going to incorporate a variety of building materials and including brick, stone, stucco, you know, again, so that's not all the same material. Um, the utilize altered depths. uh the main entrance will either project or recess. So again, sort of just to break that up so that it so that it looks nice and architecturally pleasing. The roof design of the data centers will incorporate heat island reduction elements. Um and as you heard discussed earlier about the noise, they have profered to meet all noise requirements of those are just uh what's required through the zoning ordinance. So they're not exempting themselves in any way from that. Uh okay. The development is again located within the route 3 west settlement area of our comprehensive plan and according to the comprehensive plan this area was created to serve as the industrial hub within the county. Um further one of the key policies for under future development and preservation of our comprehensive plan is to quote encourage compatible light and heavy industrial development and to

limit further residential development. And that same section also states to quote industrial development should be limited to the triangle created by route 3 665 and 605. Um from a transportation perspective, our policy is to require right-of-way dedication in on-site roadway improvements uh in design and development of new land use related uh projects. And that is how staff uh came up with the 60 foot from center line for Bloomsberry and the 100 foot from center line of route three. That's what's required in accordance with our comprehensive plan which the applicant um a agreed to voluntarily profer. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't click through all that. I apologize. Um, so based on all this, staff has found that the project is consistent with the comprehensive plan in terms of development type, the location of development, and the and the transportation policies that we have. So again, we talked a little bit about the the traffic impact uh and that a trafficked impact study was performed by the applicant. Um they they're based on full buildout of 7.2 million square feet. We're looking at just over 5700 vehicles per day. Um yeah, the the propers for the right turn lanes, signal warrant analysis, arch cut alternative designs, um and right ofway dedication have been made. Just a summary, water and sewer. Again, as we discussed, uh they're looking for to handle their portable water needs through temporary groundwater wells. No water cooling of the equipment. There was a zoning determination that was issued by the zoning administrator included in your packet. And once water source becomes available, they have profered to connect. Same thing with sewer. They're using on-site sewage system and if

public sewer becomes available, they are profering to connect to that. Um, as discussed earlier, an archaeological assessment was performed. Uh phase two archaeological evaluation will be prepared in accordance with those identified sites with any artifacts being given to the county museum. As you noticed, I'm sure earlier, wetlands are present on the northern part of the site. A wetland delineation was performed by TNT Environmental last year. Uh they will submit that delineation at the same time as their initial site plan. Any disturbance would have to be reviewed by the county and regulating authorities and will have to comply with federal, state, and local law. There is an existing access road within the RPA that exists today and the applicant is proposing to use that for access to one of their substations. Um, a sound study has been performed uh and will they will continue to perform those sound studies throughout the phase of uh development and for each site plan. and they have profered not to exceed our zoning ordinance requirements. To talk a little bit more about the public safety aspect, I know this was discussed with having an aerial ladder truck capable of being able to service heights that exceed that in the zoning ordinance. Um, Chief Moody has determined that if the aerial ladder truck is procured, that will be capable of servicing the proposed building heights within this application. Um, as such, he's requested $2.7 million in the annual budget. Um, if you recall, the applicant has profered to contribute $2.1 million as well as $100,000 for the training of personnel and $2 per for every 100 square foot of data center constructed. If just doing some, you know, so you guys don't have to do the quick math,

uh, if the full 7.2 million square feet is developed, that's another $144,000. It should be noted that Chief Moody has informed us that it will take approximately four years to procure the aerial ladder truck and three months of installation and training. So, the recommendation is to get that ordered as soon as possible. The applicant has prepared a fiscal impact analysis as well and they're estimating um over $18 million annually to the county upon full buildout. They've also estimated that there will be the equivalent of 12 over 1,200 employees for permanent job placement with an additional approximately 1500 indirect and induced impacts and 19,000 temporary jobs during construction. So that was the reasoning portion. I'm now going to move on to their second request, which is to request a special exception permit if it was reszoned to industrial. And all the same site information. I'm not going to go through all of that again because that's that that all remains the same. Um, so we're only going to talk about the the specifics with the special exception permit itself. So again, that special exception permit is contingent upon the approval of the conditional reasonzoning. If it's not reszoneed, they can't get a special exception permit because you need a special exception permit in industrial zone property for a data center. Um, if approved, all the requirements of the the data use performance standards, which is 765 of the zoning ordinance will apply. There are no specific conditions currently imposed in on the permit as it would be be duplicative since the application is uh requiring a resoning as well. They're all being handled through profer. Now we we can impose conditions but but staff has not found any above and beyond the the

profers. Uh finally as we discussed the applicants requesting more than one access point to a highway corridor overlay district roadway which is route three to serve their property. uh here. I know again that's a lot of information that's all within your uh staff report as well. Um but these are the specific requirements for the property within overlay districts. Uh let's see. So again, these are the this is the purpose of of a highway corridor overlay district. And in terms of access, this is right out of our zoning ordinance. Any parcel or assembly of parcels having frontage along the HCO roadway shall be permitted only one direct access to HCOD unless an access plan is submitted to and approved by the planning commission for more than one. Um if you do allow that it is required that they connect to an adjacent parcel for future or existing uh which which they do. they have they have shown that um I'd like to point out that the traffic impact study uh like I said analyzed the the three entrances and throughout the process uh VOT's obviously been heavily involved and just from transportation and traffic engineering principles condensing everything to one access point is putting a lot more load on that particular entrance and that that specific um area of route three as opposed to spreading those impacts out along three entrances. So again, the study as it was performed assumed all three of those entrances and broke those the traffic up through those three entrances at full buildout. I will answer any questions if that was unclear. Um yeah, that really just summarizes everything I just said. So again they're they are proposing access point three

here which will be the main entrance uh and will serve during phase one. Then they have access point four here, access point five there. There's their interparial access connection both pedestrian and vehicular which is required through the zoning ordinance if they're going to request more than one access point on um an HCOD roadway. So to summarize, there are three requests before you this evening, including the resoning, the special exception permit, and the more than one access point to an HCOD roadway. And those are the resolutions associated with each. I just want to put the uh the layout up there so everyone could have a look at that while I entertain any questions. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. So this is what the uh what I'm going to do. Um, we are going to first I'm going to ask uh a request for um uh a a 10-minute recess. Then we will come back with um public comment and then we will then I'll open the the floor up for the board. Right. Is that that feasible? All right. So, can I get a motion? I move we take a 10-minute recess. Much has been made. If if there are any objections, if there are not going to take a 10-minute recess

What? Yep. All right. Where are our committee members? If you could return your seats, please. Came around here. Why I didn't want you. All right. So, I'm going to make a slight amendment to what I had uh said earlier. I failed to uh take into consideration for the um uh presentation of the special exception. So, uh, so before any public comments, I'm going to hear we're going to hear, uh, p, um, I'm sorry, we're going to hear, uh, from resolution PC06-25, green energy ventures, special exception. Um, did she Yes, that's right. That's right. Yes, sir. Okay. Yes. Yes, ma'am. Um, let's see. Hang on one second. This is just the point, Mr. Williams, where the applicant would give their presentation. Yes, that's what I wanted to do. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair and uh Vice Chair Bllley and the members of the commission. My name is Hobie Mitchell. I'm the managing partner in Green Energy Ventures, the applicant for this project. Um, next slide. Uh just to give you a flavor of all the consultant work that we've been working on. The consultants, a lot of them are here tonight to answer questions if needed. Also u some of my other partners are here in the audience as well as the

Taylor family who's the property owner that we're working with right now. They've been good partners to work with. Next slide. So there's four things that will happen. One is the zoning. You've heard about that from the county staff. the special exception, the access exemption, and then there's a text amendment which the board initiated a resolution for you all to consider that can allow you to consider things on a case-byase basis. Next slide. To give you a time element, we first started this back in May of 2022. That was our preapp. And since then, we've had seven or actually eight submissions, resubmissions of the zoning. And then when the zoning ordinance was adopted, we had to do it by special exception. So we've had five submissions on the special exception. We've had two presentations to this year commission and we've had multiple community meetings. In fact, sometimes I go door to door knocking on either residents or businesses to make sure they understand. We have a website set up as well which has got a lot of information that's available to the public. I've sent it out just about everybody I can think of and if questions come up I'm glad to answer any of them. So I'm going to go through the presentation. Next slide. So this is about the property development. This is a location of where we're located in conjunction with all the other uses. You see Hopyard to the right, Oakland Park to the top. You see uh where the landfill is the King George Industrial Park where Bluma is USA in relationship to the county line. Next slide. So this is the current comprehensive plan for the west settlement area. Uh you see the

dash blue lines here. This was the west settlement area prior to you amending it with the AWS resoning. So originally it was this area. It was expanded to include this back at the end of 2023. So we've always been in the comprehensive plan area. We're not asking for any comprehensive plan changes. Never have and we don't need to. Next slide. This is sort of a general uh blob plan I'll call it of the development. 7.2 million square feet. Phase one is 2 and a half million square feet and that's principally for transportation improvements which I'll get into later. Uh 18 acres this area here will be dedicated to the county hopefully for service authority work. We're proposing that a water treatment plant could be constructed there. It works nicely with the interconnection between a couple of the service areas. Substation areas located here and here. And this is the massing area for the data center campus itself. Uh we'll go into the transportation improvements, the details of how we're mitigating visual impacts along three and Bloomsberry Road with a lot of enhanced landscaping and our plan avoids the RPA. We have one crossing which is an existing driveby to get to a substation but we really have avoided wetlands. In fact, the wetlands have been delineated and signed off by the core. Next slide. Economic impacts. So, the development project is in the neighborhood of about $2 billion. That's what's going to be invested into this project. Um, next that's on 7.2 million feet. Next slide. So what that means the

construction period during the construction period we will have about 16,000 construction jobs that'll be created because of the project uh indirect and then direct you can see the comparison then values next slide permanent jobs permanent jobs created is about 1236 call it 1230 jobs indirect jobs and we can explain that later questions is about 1440 indirect jobs and you can see the valuation of those income created from all these jobs that are created. Next slide. The cumulative this is over a 30-year period. This is from 2027 through 207 creates about $560 million a year based on our projections done by Munichap to the county over a per 30-year period. almost $19 million a year at buildout. It's it scales up to that as you develop the property, but that's a that's a that's a lot of money. Next slide. We also have proper for a lump sum of 2.1 million to mitigate basically, you know, the pay for a hook and ladder truck. We're going to do it at the first building permit so that the chief can order a fire truck right away, a hook and ladder truck. Uh we'll pay up to $100,000 for training. This is probably one of the first critical structures that is in the county. It's critical structures are dealt with differently for fire protection. So we want to make sure they're trained properly. Um we also are profering on an annual basis $2 per 100 square feet. As Angela said, that's about $144,000 a year in perpetuity. We also dedicated the 18

acre site to the county for that we hoped as something related to the service authority. Could be used for something else, but um we can get into that later. Next slide. Project improvements. So uh you saw u an illustration. This is really the plan. This is phase one improvements. So for reference, this is route three. This is Balloonsbury Road. We dedicate right away from the existing. This is the prescriptive easement road. So we'll dedicate permanently a 60-oot rideway along here. And then we'll expand this to 100 foot if necessary from the center line for 100 foot rightway. So you get about 200 feet of rideway for route three. So one of the first improvements, this has always been a a VOTE project that's been designed but never funded. This is a safety area that's important for Bloomsberry and Route 3. A lot of the industrial traffic already uses that. So, one of the first things we're going to do is do all these improvements in the first phase at entrance one and two. And we'll do a signal justification report. And if it says it needs a signal, we put it in. And we'll do this three times. One at phase one, phase two, and then when it build out. We really believe that that signal will be necessary. The other thing is at entrance three which is our main entrance. And one of the things we also heard was we don't want another traffic signal in route three. So we worked on a design with V dot in the county to do what's called an RC curve design. And so what it does, you can see the detail. It eliminates the traffic movements and safety where

you can cross over and do U-turn movements in conjunction with some of the other. So it eliminates a traffic signal. VOTE has, you know, signed off on it, but it's subject to engineering, and we'll see how that works. If it doesn't work, then we'll eventually have to put a traffic signal in, but we want to eliminate a traffic signal along Route Three. Next slide. This is phase two. So again, it's really doing another signal report, doing some additional turn lanes. Most of all the improvements here can happen within the existing rideway and of course we'll do more improvements down here for a later phase and we one thing I didn't mention but the improvements that go in this entrance here including anything over in a dedicated parcel would happen in phase one frankly most of this might be done in phase one anyway because we'll need that for access for construction activities and then once the buildings are starting to occupy will need that second place because it's a secure campus. Next slide. So, one of the other things we heard a lot about is what is this going to look like from the road. So, the ordinance right now requires what's called a type C buffer. Now, we have a burm here, but you don't have to do a burm by the ordinance. So, what we decid and this is the landscaping requirement. This is per 100 feet. So what we decided to do is not only create a 12-oot burm but also enhance the landscaping itself but then on top of that because we heard a question well what does it look like when you plant it? So we said we got it. So we propered to increase the caliber of the landscaping material. So we actually are starting to look for landscaping and talking to some of the businesses about providing we got a lot

of landscape. We got 8,000 linear feet of frontage. So we got millions of dollars of landscaping. So we profered to this. So at 5 years, this is about the height that you're going to see the material. It's roughly 22% of this landscaping is evergreens. And we're trying to figure out native species that'll do well here. Like uh leelands don't do well because they got bag worms. So we're exploring other opportunities that are native here. Next slide. So we looked at the cross-section and kind of determined what is the existing ordinance say. So right and we looked at that from the neighbors across the street and we did a two studies. One there was houses that were about 94 feet from the rightway and we had some that were 50 feet. Uh we had some you know questions about that. So we said yeah we'll add it for the houses are closer. So from the rightway this was the rideway line. Your current ordinance requires a 50-foot landscape buffer and then a 50ft yard buffer. That's a 35 foot tall building. So from across the street the sideline you're going to see the building that's under the ordinance. You can go up to 50 feet, but you have to increase the setback by additional 1:1. So you're at 50 feet plus 65. But when they cross the street, you're going to see even more of a building at 50 ft. These are one stories. So what we did, and that's without BMS. So what we've done here within this 50 ft we have burned it, landscaped it, we put some uh u split rail fences and some other landscaping materials, but we also added an

additional step back. So this is now 200 ft instead of 115 ft. And from there, you look across the street, you barely see the building at a 5year growth. probably 10 20 years you probably won't see much of that building. So we looked at it next slide. I thought I was missing a slide. Anyway, we did it again at 50 ft and it's basically it's about the same visual impact. So between 50 because the sideline is about the same. In fact, it's probably more here than it is at 50 feet. You see less and then you did it the other way. So, next slide. So, we rendered it to see what does it look like at five-year growth based on the landscaping and the other things from across the street from the main entrance with the buildings behind it as we've located. So, this is a visual impact of what we did uh rendering it at the main entrance across the street. Next slide. We then looked at it. What does it look like from the house across the street? You know, whether it's 94 feet or 50 foot from the rightway. And based on a 5year growth or landscaping, this is what we think you'll see at five year growth. At 10 years or 20 years, you'll probably not see the building with the mix of materials we're providing. Next slide. This is what we see for Bloomsberry Road. Same landscaping. Now, over here is principally you don't have a lot of data centers. the majority of it because um majority of this is really the 18 acre site you're dedicating to the sound county and then you got this over here but that's the visual what that'll look like on Bloomsberry which will stay as a two-lane road and we're dedicating 60 foot of right away from the existing center line

of a prescriptive easement road. Next slide. So, we're profering or we're just complying with the uh noise ordinance. We will do annual inspections or what we agree to to make sure we comply. If we don't comply, then we get shut down. So, it's important that we design the buildings to comply with the 60-day time 559. Next slide. This is a an overall kind of talks about the overall plan. You saw some of that in the earlier presentation. Twotory buildings along round three and the joist and three stories in in between and the four substations. We've been working with Dominion for two years now. So, we're in the uh design phase of substations. We've already committed to a lot of money for the design side of it because it takes time to get power. So, we're two years into the process almost. And you can see this is where the 45 acre uh nursery building is located. This is the industrial park. And then all the BMS we're talking about is here on round three. Next slide. So, that's our presentation. You heard a lot already from Angela and we're open to questions and or whatever process you'd like to do. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Okay. All right. At this time, I am going to open the floor uh for public comment. Now, um as I look at these signup sheets, I'm seeing uh the names of individuals essentially on both. Um and these these projects, they're they're essentially one and the

same. Um so if any way that you can implement your comments for both again they're one and the same uh for the for the sake of time again we we have a midnight cut off I do believe um so we're we're here to midnight if need be but at midnight it's Cinderella it's lights So um so uh so I will ask that uh that you limit your comments to three minutes per person. That's so we can afford everyone who wants to speak an opportunity to speak. Um also I'll be remiss if I didn't say that I didn't recognize uh the group of individuals who are here. Uh they're all in blue shirts. Um and if if you wish um again we we don't want to take any opportunity of anyone who wants to speak. However, if you have a representative who would speak who wants to speak for the group of you uh we will make note of that individual and note the number of people in which uh they in which he or she are representing. Is that is that Kelly? Is that okay? Is that something we can do? They can speak as a group. All right. Very well. Okay. And then one one last thing I will uh request is that we grant all citizens of King George the opportunity to go first and then anyone who lives outside of the county will then have the opportunity to speak. Mr. Chairman. Yes, sir. I'm I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I just wanted to make sure that this is the public hearing for

the reasoning case first. Yes. So, let me read that. Okay. Thank you. Okay. So this is uh public hearing for comment on resolution PC05-25 green energy ventures reszoning public hearing as again it is open now the um public hearing section is now open. Uh please limit your um speaking points to three minutes. Uh and when you do present please present your name and your address um as to where you reside. First on the list I have is Miss Anna Marie Love. Um I'm sorry, Levelville. If if she's still here. Hi, my name is My name is Anna Maria. Pull if you can pull your mic. There you go. There you go all the way down. There you go. There you go. Thank you. My name is Anna Maria Loel and I live in presidential aids. I want to thank you for your service to the community and I know this job is very hard by asking you to make the right decisions for the county. Now we talk about data centers, solar panels, lithium batteries, reszoning from agriculture to industrial. Are these things really what is best for the county? You're probably thinking about more tax revenue for King George, but I am going to tell you the industrial activities can lead a pollution loss or habitat and increase water consumption and potential harm to the environment. Converting farmlands can reduce the region's food production

and negatively impacting the local farmers. For this reason, I want you to think very clear about what you doing to King George. We don't want to become Fredericksburg or Northern Virginia. We want to remain rural King George. And another thing you remember the Domino Energy put Birwood as a business. Supposed to be until 206 the contract by Domino energy put Birwood other business. Also, you have to understand the impact will do the traffic. I live right there in Route Three between 301 3 205 206 and the traffic is already really bad about that also you're going to expect more water more sewage if we have in King George problem with the water I appreciate if you think about it really I want you to think about what you're doing to King George thank you thank you ma'am all right next uh on the side We have Miss Debbie Fairfax. Good evening, Miss Fairfax. Hi. Good evening, Mr. Chair and members of the commission. My name is Debbie Fairfax and I live in the James Madison district. Um, I just have a few. First of all, I would like to commend them for actually having a proposal that is more complete than the last data center campus which I spoke at. I will commend them on that. However, there are a few questions that I have. First of all, who is the enduser? King George should be aware of who the enduser of this project is. It was seemingly indicated at the Hopyard meeting that there was no identified enduser and that GEV would not be remaining in some sort of managerial capacity. So who are we being left to deal with in King George? I'm I'm not really convinced that they would

have invested this much time and energy and money without a fish on the hook. So I'd like to know what fish that is. Additionally, um I would like to know where the high voltage power lines are going to be run. The Birchwood application showed those clearly and therefore we were able to ascertain what impact that would be to residents who live nearby. Additionally, I'd like to ask if the planning commission is able to vote on a proposal with propers that exceed the zoning limits. Is that something we can even do for the building heights? Furthermore, the diagrams showed five-year growth at 50 feet. I don't think I saw a clear description of what it was going to look like when the buildings went up before the growth was in place for the highest height that they profered. Additionally, Chief Moody indicated four years before ordering and receiving the ladder truck. And I thought that what I read said be they would get the money at the occupancy permit. I heard building permit, but if we like I'm just trying to figure out what we do if we have occupied buildings and no ladder truck that can reach the top floor. Um, additionally, water. There's one King George straw in the Rapahhanic which is permitted for six million gallons per day. It's currently leased to a private entity. The originalou had King George potentially with some legal ease exceptions able to receive 600,000 gallons per day of untreated water. That sameou says we can't sell the water to another corporation. I think there are a lot of details that we need to look into here. DEEQ is requiring all of King George to move to surface water and from my understanding 600,000 gallons per day is not enough to meet King George's current needs. Pages six, pages six and seven of the application speaks to temporary ground wells, which means the applicant has placed in writing the understanding that it expects to hook on

to municipal water in the future. I wouldn't want to disenfranchise them if that's not a likely happen stance. Um, again, page six and seven also says they will not use water cooling unless and until the project is connected to the King George County Service Authority. um and can we accommodate water for this many buildings and over 500,000 traffic trips? Finally, I'll speak later on the separate um issue of the number of entrances. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Mr. Fairfax. Next, Mr. Todd Fairfax. Todd Fairfax, Kings Highway, James Madison District. Mr. Chair and planning commissioners, good evening. As you are certainly aware, the first listed goal of the current comp plan is to quote preserve the rural characteristics of King George County," unquote. The data center camp has proposed this evening moves the county away from that goal, not closer. I understand and appreciate the current property owner's desire to sell their property and the contract purchasers desire to develop the property for financial gain. Please also remember the current King George citizen residents living across the roads from the proposed site. You have an obligation to them as it pertains to that first listed goal in the comp plan. This proposal can significantly impact their rural viewshed and their peace and quiet. I suspect none of them want any part of it. Completely understandable and I agree. Many years ago, a man wrote that in everything you do, only do to other people what you would want done to you. I think you'd all agree that this is an excellent saying and an excellent rule we should live by. I hope you intend to do just that this evening as it pertains. I see two problems with this proposal. I hope you agree and I hope the applicant would also agree as I understand they want to and intend to be

a good neighbor. I've heard them say so. I hope they'll hear these two problems and proper changes accordingly. First, the viewshed. A 12-oot burm with a variety of shrubs and large deciduous ornamental and evergreen trees is certainly better than no burm at all while staring at naked industrial buildings across the road. But the applicant can do more to preserve the rural viewshed of the citizen residents living across the roads. Increase the burm height to 20 ft, maybe 25 ft. This will raise the rural viewshed sighteline so that less or even no part of the industrial buildings are visible early on in the development from the yards and the first and second floor of the homes across the street. This is part of being a good neighbor. Second, the noise level. You have met the letter of the ordinance. Thank you. Now, will you meet the spirit of it? And in the spirit of being a good neighbor, please match the profered sound levels from a neighboring locality. I think you can do even better than what you've profered. Aim for 55 dBA daytime and 50 dBA nighttime. Residents should be able to enjoy the inside of their homes and activities in their yards in peace and quiet. This is also being a good neighbor. And for everyone's reference, the air cooled Amazon data centers neighboring Great Oak subdivision of Manasses are still making too much noise for the residents to enjoy their homes and yards, even after years of negotiation and attempts at remediation. Please remember, if you don't want it done to you, please don't do it to someone else. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Fairfax. Next is Mr. feel I think it's hair higher higher just the higher you up. Good evening. My name is Bill Hire. Uh I live in Hopyard Farms. Um I've been

living in the county for approximately 7 years now. And one of the reasons why I'm living in the county is because I want to get the heck away from Freddersburg. This is a place that has the open field. It's the agricultural field. It's comfortable. It's nice. It's nice to bring my five grandchildren here and see this. This data center is not going to help us with that look. It's not going to make it work for us. That's just the appearance part. My my big issue here is that right now, the way I see this county, our infrastructure is horrible. It is constantly under it's not working. There's there's a lot of issues with our infrastructure. The King George Service Authority messed up so bad to the point of $36 million that we are paying for as residents in assessment fees. This is hurting us. You're talking about a center that's going to bring in massive amount of water because they are going to tap into our water. You know it, I know it. It's going to happen eventually. They are going to tap into our water and it's going to make it harder for us to have what we have now. We already have low water pressure in Hopyard. It's not going to get better. The power, we lose power a lot. I I just don't I understand that they're working on with Dominion power and they're trying to come up with all kinds of good things to make this work, but I we're at the bottom of that line. We lose power. What do we have? I have to buy a generator in my house now so that I have to worry about the big draw from this data center. It makes no sense. I think you're hurting us in that way. I understand that residential services hurt. It costs us money to have residential services. The business brings more tax revenue in. It does not help us as a big picture of things. The my friend that's with me, he's one of my neighbors. He's he's saying the same thing. He's like, where are we pulling the water from? Rapahhanic has a lot of problems as it is. We're trying to keep the Rapahanic clean. If we're going to pull the water from Rapahanic, there's going to be dirty water that's going

into it. I don't care how much we try to clean it, it's still going to have dirty water going into it. this is not helping our community. All I ask is that you'd look at that and realize people like myself, we moved here to get away from this, not to bring it into here. And I thank you for your time. Thank you, sir. All right. Um, next I think it's Frenius France. I'm sorry, Francis Francisco. Hello, sir. Very well, sir. I'm not even going to try, but my apologies. I'm not come prepared to talk. I just put my name in there. I told everybody to sign, but after I hear something. So if you if you can say where you're from. I'm right across the street from 4089 Kings Highway. Very well. Thank you. And I was not prepared to talk, but I just sign up. That's what everybody had to sign. But after I hear the gentleman right behind me say that he went to everybody around knock doors. I'm right across the street. I never see anybody knock on my door and ask me anything or say I don't even knew about this product about this project until couple weeks ago that they put the signs on it and so that's red flag. I mean, he say something that I don't think he did, at least on my house. And um I'm concerned about what they going to do with all these, you know, when it rains, we have a creek that's connect to that property, connect

to our property. They wanted my neighbors also concerned about where all this water after the paving and all that things they go to the creek or they going to go to the other side. Um, I was riding my horses today and because it rained a couple days, you know, yesterday the creek is already full and there was a lot of water and I cannot even imagine when we pave that area and that go to the creek without filtration on the farm area where what it's going to do to that you know and also the chemicals and that they you know I I was there today and my horses was drinking that and all that and what is going to be the impact. So I would want you guys to take a consideration on that part too and make it a good studio to see you know what's going to be all the chemicals and all that to the creek and the view also you know we have beautiful view every evening you know the sunset where all that is going to be covered now we're not going to have it any longer you know so just thinking about us and it's big red flag that he say he went to and knocked the door saying he never did. So take that consideration for somebody lying to us or no be honest enough. Okay. Thank you sir. Next we have uh Richard or Richardson. It's hard to read this uh of Colonial Way. Richard Mr. Chairman, good evening, sir.

Commissioner Richard Dixon, 112 Colony Way, uh, Montross, Virginia. Nice to meet you all, neighbors. uh 28-year member of the IBW. This uh plant, if it went up the data center, it would be the closest job I would have ever had to my home. It would sure be nice to be able to employ a whole lot of people there. That's about all I've got to say. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Uh, next we have Justin Clark, I do believe. Justin Clark. Hello. This should be relatively short. I don't have anything prepared, but I just wanted to say, um, I'm 17, about to be out of high school, and, uh, I think this is an excellent opportunity for a lot of people in this area and around this area. Oh, awesome. I'm from Richmond County, but I think that uh this would be an excellent opportunity for a lot of people in this area and around this area. Uh I could continue to support my community and my family uh and stay relatively close while pursuing the trade. Thank you. Next we have Joe Dabs. Good evening, council. My name is Joe Dabs. I'm the business manager of IBW Local 26. So what that really means is I'm elected just like everybody else

sitting up there and I represent 12,000 electrical workers. We build data centers. I've been in the trade for 44 years. And I think what you'll hear from the folks that are local, I'm not. I'm from Frederick County, Maryland. I just spoke at another one of these a few weeks ago, is uh they're looking, you know, to build first class data centers and work close to home so they can get back home a lot quicker than when they have to commute, spend time with their families, and be involved in the community and coach little league and things like that. So, the presentation that we sold tonight, I can tell you I've been to a lot of these. Best presentation I've ever sold. They're taking a lot of steps to mitigate the sightelines. Uh the portable water, you know, sounds like to me it's just a well for water for uh you know, drinking water, washing your hands in the buildings. So, uh also it sounds like from the presentation the cooling is a closed loop system. So, they're not drawing water from ground sources or or somewhere else. The noise always comes up. There's lots of reports from that have been done over the years. Um, I'm sure you guys have access to that. The engineers have um they've made a lot of course correction over the last 30 years to mitigate the sound. They changed the uh the styles of blades on cooling towers and the pitch and all that. So with the setbacks, the burns, the trees, um gosh, you're probably not going to hear much noise at all. So I think they did a really really good job and they certainly involved a lot of people to uh address a lot of issues. The most that I've seen at uh any of these presentations. So um we're just trying to keep our folks working, keep them close to home. They're they're the best craftsmen you'll ever see. So, uh, we're best in class and, uh, thank you for your time. Yep. Thank you, Mr. Dobs.

Next, we have Michael, I think it's Sun or Sing, not sure of Joshua Tree Circle. No. Yeah. All right. Next uh is Nick [Music] um say that again all right name is Nick Hobback. Currently I live at 171 Papa Road. I lived in King George for about five years. I've been in local for 17 years. I moved out of King George because I could not find a job in this area. I always had to travel north. I'm sorry. So you you said Popular Road. Um Papa Road in Stafford and Frederickburg. Thank you. It's Stafford County. Yep. Uh I currently own property in Montros and I plan to be moving to there. Hopefully that'll be my permanent home. Who knows? But anyhow, uh this data center would really help myself and a lot of my brothers and obviously people after that to be able to not have to travel outside King George County. I love King George County. Uh like people have said there are issues with the service authority. I have lived here. I know that. But that does not get put on a industrial project. That area is slated for industrial. So, why should that area pay for the county issues? I'm kind of speaking out out of I don't have anything prepared, but if that area is slated for industrial, why should people say no to anything? A iron place could go there. Uh, steel factory. Currently, it's the landfill, which is the only

place that the county gets revenue from right now, which is absolutely terrible. Anyway, I think that if you would allow the data center to come to the county, it would really help the residents, people in the area, and people to actually enjoy their lives that live in this county and nearby. Thank you. Thank you, Sam. Next is Tara Tara Gutridge. Hi there. My name is Tara Gutridge. I'm from 5207 Heritage Drive in King George. I at the time of employment, I was traveling two and a half hours to work all the way out in Ashurn and about three and a half to four hours home. I have a 9-year-old and a six-year-old at home. And that commute was taking time away from my family. So to bring this data center into King George would really keep me close to home so I'm not losing time with my children while they are growing up. They do miss me. They don't get to see me all that often. So I really would wish that you take this into consideration for my brothers and sisters in the IBW that we stay close to home. Thank you. Thank you. Next we have Justin Green. How y'all doing this evening? I'm Justin Green, 3498 Kings Highway, King George, Virginia. I'm addressing you the planning commission in regard to the Green Energy Ventures project that is up for approval. This project will be in direct view from the front yard of my home. I am the neighbor across the street. The effects of the lighting or my concerns are as follows. the effects of the lighting for the data centers or parking lot areas at night and if that lighting will be shining towards my home

disturbing my family and the projected noise these data centers will have once complete along with the extreme amount of added traffic that has already that this project will impose on this section of route three that is already accident prone. I already have had speeding vehicles overturn in my yard, rolling end over end in the middle of the day, and have to worry about the safety of my family in our own yard, minus the added traffic that this project will cause alone in the first phase. I have read numerous articles that reference nearby homeowners living by already established data centers complain of the constant humming noise from the buildings. I feel this project will make enjoying our homes and quality of life more difficult due to the hearing constant noises in the data centers whether during day or night or at night. I please ask all of you to truly consider this proposal and put yourselves in the shoes of being a homeowner who will be negatively affected by having a project of this size not only in your front yard but that will possibly cause safety noise and quality of life issues. Thank you for your time. Thank you, sir. Next is Mercedes Stevens. Good evening, Chair Williams, Vice Chair Flatly, and members of the commission. My name is Mercedes Stevens from the James Monroe District. I am a King George High School junior that is part of the Chesapeake Bay Governor's School of Marine Environmental Science. There are several pros and cons associated with data centers. They help boost the economy by bringing in jobs, tax revenues, capital investments. They are also essential for the daily use of digital services, websites, cloud-based programs, and electrical applications all rely on data centers. But with every good thing, there is also bad. Data

centers are ranked top 10 in water consumption for industrial and commercial purposes. This is due to the large amount of water withdrawn from natural sources and dumped back out. The wastewater discharge can introduce various contaminants such as chemicals, heavy metals, and many others if not treated properly. This waste water can degrade the quality of local water bodies posing risk to ecosystems and human health. There these balloons can harm aquatic life, disrupt ecosystems, and reduce biodiversity. It can also lead to soil degradation due to the pollutants seeping into the ground and affecting soil quality and agricultural pollution productivity. That last part should stand out considering the land it was on used to be a farm and there are several in the surrounding area that could pot so it could potentially harm the surrounding farms. Climate change is already affecting water scarcity. But when you add in the amount of water used by data centers, it creates an even larger issue. They also use a lot of energy to operate. One data center center campus can use more power than is generated by a large nuclear reactor which can put strain on local on the local power grids making prices higher. Not to mention that in order to meet the demand, we as a state would have to build more fossil fuel plants which release carbon dioxide, a greenhouse gas that contributes to climate change. Continuing on with air pollution, the backup generators also run on fossil fuel on diesel fuels which also release carbon dioxide. In addition to air, water and soil pollution. It can create it can be quite the annoy. It can create and aid in noise pollution. Data centers give off a loud humming noise. It can be quite the annoyance and problem and the problem is hard to solve. The houses that live right across the street would have to deal with that constant humming along with animals in the surrounding area such as the horses next door or wild animals. Overall, data centers can have a large impact on the environment that I feel is not properly being advocated for or taken into consideration. It is our job, my generation's job to advocate for our environment so that we are not left cleaning up the mess from previous

generations. I implore you to take these environmental impacts into consideration not just for the good environment but for the good of the community members. I would also like to point out that Virginia is already number one in the world, not the US, not not the continent, the world for data centers with 250 already in Northern Virginia. And we are home to the largest estuary in North America, the Chesapeake Bay. And these data centers will have a lasting impact on the bay. and I don't want it to have any more than it already does. That is all. Thank you, ma'am. Next, we have Mr. James Shaw. James Shaw, James Monroe District. um columnist Northern Next Sentinel, citizen journalist, KG Media. Speaking as a taxpayer, little bit of EDA uh economic development authority um interest also wrote these comments before Mr. Williams here. You'll you'll get it here. We have a landfill in this county that is like Cinderella's uh carriage that will be turning into a pumpkin shortly. And so we have people looking out for various ways in which to uh uh offset that loss. Uh we we don't want uh you know the uh the smelly and now noisy landfill to uh continue. So we have to look for uh alternatives and creative ones and data centers is one of those. Uh there are certain amount of

limitations uh by just only having uh three sites which is kind of what's lining up right now. We have the one that's kind of half approved and then we have this one and then another one in the works. Uh the third one will be within 0.9 miles of my house. And so this is not one of those nimi kinds of things. Um the income tax stream will come to an end. And so what do you do? You come up with these kind of alternatives. You're looking for something very dense, something that generates a lot of tax revenue in a small surface area and data centers is about the best you can do. And so, um, let's see. Uh, the GEV project does meet the criterion of what we're generally looking for as a county. Um, I'm very much supporter of um, uh, regenerative farming methods. And so, I I see this in the big picture uh, not necessarily looking only at a very small uh, uh, 0.8% 8% of the land of the u of the county. Um it's in an industrial area that uh that map was very good that was shown earlier. And so as a result of that uh uh taking that portion of the uh the larger area and turning that into all industrial will be a good thing. Unifying the whole and preparing us for the future. That's the place for that kind of stuff. that's where it will uh start and end and I look forward to the progress on this in the future. Thank you, Mr.

Sham. So, I'm going to continue on with the um other uh resolution. Should we do we need to close this one first or can we combine them? Mr. Chairman, um if if once they're finished speaking on this um resoning, then you can close that open the second one, but I there may be people who still speak even though they didn't sign up. Yeah, I Yeah, this is true. So, that's the end of of those who had signed up. Now, the floor is open. for the exception special exception. I was after Todd Fairfax's name. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah, there it is. Yeah. Different different form. Yeah. So, I apologize. All right. So, we just went off the exception public list here and vises the reszoning. Um, yeah. Um, so I'll I'll open this this les you you'll get your opportunity, ma'am. Uh, with this uh reasonzoning, this was the special exception, but I'm going to open I'm going to finish this one up. Um, is there anyone uh who didn't sign up who wants to speak on the special exception at this point? We have M. So, Mr. Chairman. Yes. If I understood correctly, you open public

comment on the resoning application and I would just suggest that you may ask if there's anyone who wants to speak on the resoning application. To go ahead and speak and then you be Come on. Make it quick. I want to thank you all for your all that you do. My name is Tudy Monure. I live in James Madison across Route Three from the area. Um, my neighbor property is very vulnerable and I just wanted to say that my husband and I moved here several years ago because it was a unique area and what caught our attention was the goals of the comprehensive plan. Number one was to preserve the rural characteristics of King George County and like Taylor Whitaker said, it's a real gem and I would hate to find outsiders come in mining all those gems. Thank you. Right. Thank you, ma'am. Okay. I think uh Mr. Scott Shaw, I don't think I've called your name. Good evening. Thank you for hearing my what I have to say. I'm a res resident of uh King George County. live on 10451 Edge Hill Lane. Um I am a union member. Um and I just like many of the other local members basically spend about four hours a day driving to DC to try to get anything close to close to home. And sometimes that gets even worse. Um um we have a lot of people between southern Maryland and the northern neck that live in this area and would love to

be able to come here to work. Um I understand a lot of the concerns. Um I've been here for six years. Um, and I understand a lot of the concerns of a lot of the people, but being in the industry as well, I also understand that, you know, the data centers have a tendency to cause a lot of uproar because of noise, because of things like that. Um, they're putting in a lot of mitigation for a lot of the noise, and it's better than a lot of the places that I've seen that have had the same situation. Um my mother worked for the EPA in ground and drinking water and she went into a lot of these things with uh when data centers started becoming a more popular thing. Um there are a lot of environmental laws in place and these people are held to very strict accountability to those laws for that and that's something that they're going to have to honor. And as far as the location of it and everything being right off the edge of the of Route 3, um that landfill has trash haulers running 24 hours a day making the loop around Route 3 up 301 and 90 back down 95. Those trucks are not going to be any more that sound of those trucks is going to be no different than what it is now for the construction on that site. Um, yes, it's going to cause a little bit of a hiccup in traffic, but at the same time, we all know that the traffic around here can change in an instant. Um, I would say that it would be a good thing for the county to at least continue to look at this and move forward on it. It would help a lot of

the residents of this area. um the once the data center is complete, your traffic is not going to be as great as it is going to be during the construction. So, it's temporary like everything else is. So, that's all I really have to say. Thank you for your time. Thank you, sir. Uh next is Mr. Tom Clark. Good evening, Mr. Chair, Madame Vice Chair, members of the commission. For the record, my name is Tom Clark. I'm with the IBW Local 26. I live in Hanover, Maryland. Um, I'm here with uh uh some of our brothers and sisters who uh the blue shirts are dwindling down because it's it's getting late and these alarms go off at 2:30, 3:00 in the morning because our King George residents have to go elsewhere for work. these jobs. Uh this is 2025 and data centers are a necessity because of the cell phones we have. All the parents and the grandparents, they want to see their little loved ones playing te-ball or gymnastics. It's it's just the world we're in today. So, um but I want to tell you a little story. How about a story about a young person, a young woman, young man at King George High School deciding what to do. They could go through an apprenticeship four years and come out and make I don't even want to say over a h 100,000 because it's well over $100,000 a year. They can make that money. They can have health benefits. They can have an annuity and a defined pension which is a thing of the past. A defined pension. And this is a great story for your residents. And this is what it can happen. We have retirees here today from local 26 that live here in King George George County and they are not a financial burden on you

because they have a defined pension. They are not going to your hospitals because they don't have health care. They have the healthcare. They will not be a burden on you. And this is a good product for you and for your youth. So I say uh I just uh these are great jobs and and that's what we're about. We are about work and uh we have citizens here that want to work here in King George and I appreciate your time and I ask for a favorable report. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Next, we have Mr. Andrew Mason. Mr. Chairman and members of the board, my name is Andrew Mason. I reside at 7199 Indiantown Road here in King George. Um, just had a couple things. I'm also a member of IBW Local 26, but I chose not to wear the shirt because I'm a resident here at King George County, so I wanted to speak as a resident here. Couple things kind of I want to kind of dispel in a sense. Um, one was about when I got here 20 years ago, and I've been here 21 years now, there was no Walmart. There was no two-lane road coming across the nice bridge. And when I came to some of these meetings then, I'm hearing the same things now that I heard then. We want to preserve the county. We want to still remain rural, but at the same time, we want the conveniences. We want the tax breaks. We want all the things that come with not having to pay high taxes. What I will say to my fellow residents here of King George County, and what I will say to the board is that development is not bad if it's done smartly. We don't want to have development that's not done in a meaningful way in which we're not thinking about the things that we do. These data centers and I've been building the young lady spoke here earlier about this being the largest

area for data centers. There's a reason why because MCI WorldCom in Lowden County was there 25 26 years ago and them putting fiber there drew this area to the hub. Why am I saying that? data centers are going to exist. Why not capitalize in a meaningful way on them here? It's going to inconvenience some people. I've been here 21 years. Like I said, my neighbor across the street from me who owns God knows how many acres, they just clearcut it. My viewpoint changed. When I got here some time ago, I thought I forever in a way was going to be able to see those trees, see that trail. But that that view has changed for me. The reason why I'm saying that we're going to have some county members here are going to be upset. There are going to be some people here that aren't going to have the same viewpoints when they got here. And for that, I'm not going to say I'm sorry. But what I am going to say is that I empathize with that. That's just being real. But at the same time, we're not going to hold the county stagnant because we don't want to move forward. We have to do it in a smart way. We have to do it in a way in which it means something to not just one or two but everyone here. Not everyone is going to feel comfortable. Not everyone's going to get a happy ending. But at the end of the day, you guys have a responsibility for making sure that we have the things that we need here in the county and that we progress in a meaningful way. Building those data centers in the area in which they're being projected and not spread all over like in Lowden or Manasses is a beautiful way to do it. Again, the data centers that were being built 15, 20 years ago are not the ones that are being built now. All right? So, the data that we may have about some noise, and I'm not saying there's not going to be any, is not as much as it was 10 or 15 years ago. All right? So, again, data centers that might have been built back then are much different now. Thank you for your time. Thank you, Mr.

Mason. Uh, that was a gentleman who's been patiently waiting. Go on up, sir. uh Marcel Viber. I'm the owner of Woody Group. Um we employ quite a few people. I'm actually wondering if I can borrow your uh your slide. There's a there's a perfect slide in there. Is there a way you can pull up that presentation, the one that he made earlier? is like um anyway um we employ a lot of people. Uh we own a greenhouse in King George um about 200 ft from the proposed development. Go down to where the U 27 27 So the only white piece in the whole picture that's us. Um, so and I concur with the gentleman over here that uh confirmed that no one ever come talk to us uh even though this plan has apparently been going on for uh well over three years. So uh yes that was uh not accurate. What says Bloomia USA is actually one of my tenants. Uh we are the owner of the facility HYI group and within uh there's uh at this site we employ about 250 people. Uh so first thing I'd like to uh address is we have about a thousand acres of of

industrial land here that's vacant. So do we really need 350 more to be left vacant? Um, that's some of the best farmland that exists in this county. Uh, this is an agricultural county. The industrial park has been more or less vacant for who knows how long, 20 years. There's all of two companies that do something um, including us. So, if approved and if bill, we will no longer exist. That I will guarantee you. So, um, couple things. Power. There's no power. 1,200 megawatts of power is needed for this thing. Birchwood was 250. 250. Okay. So, where is this power going to come from? Who knows? But it's going to cost money. The way this works, Dominion Power makes a calculation how much it is. And guess who pays for that? Rate payers. Not the developer, not the land owner, rateayers. All of us here. So, congratulations. Um, so I would like to see or I would uh implore the the members of this board to see not an assessment from the development that they spend a lot of money. I'd like to see a letter from Dominion Power assessing this project. What it's going to cost, when it's going to be done, what eminent domain is going to be used to come across my property right to the or or whatever, and what the impact of rates are is going to be to all of us. So,

because they're not paying for it, we will be paying for it. Number two, sir, your three minutes are up. Thank you. Can I submit these uh additional facts for You can you can you can bring them to me. Yes, sir. All right. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. We we'll get a Okay. Very well. Thank you. All right. Is there anyone else? Yes, sir. All right. I want to uh My name is Chuck Klein. Um I am also the property right across the street. Um literally the entrance on Bloomsberry Road, the 100 acres, that's me. Okay. Um, I'm unprepared because again, as all my neighbors, nobody I've just heard about this when the signs went out. Um, I did call and the first thing they told me is this has been going on two years. Nobody's bothered to reach out to us. So, I'm firing from the hip here tonight. I'm not really prepared. I'll be really prepared for the next one. Um, my biggest concerns is Birchwood Creek. Right now, when it rains even slightly, that creek is dangerous. It raises from a few inches to five, six feet sometimes. And when it rains hard, it gets even bigger. So, now we're looking at, you know, I'm looking at the footprint of this place and 1,200 employees is going to need a lot of parking places. Where's all that water running to? Um, is there additional places? It's not going to go across 301 or across three. It's going

to run into that creek. 100% of that water runs through my pro runs through the property. I am actually in the process. I own the property. We are in the process of moving here. My daughter just applied for a permit to build a house. My wife and I are going to be building a house within the next couple years. Um, and I'm concerned about the water running through there. Um, the views obviously from Bloomsbury, we see these BMS and stuff. Everything's from 301 or from Route Three. I don't really see anything from Bloomsberry. I'm concerned about that. Um, the entrance in Bloomsberry, 1,200 employees. Are they all going in from Route Three or are they going to How many's coming in from the entrance at Bloomsberry which literally will be right at my driveway? Um, let's see what else we got. The environmental impact traffic is a big concern. Um, and a little background, I'm I've been in construction my whole life. Um, HVAC, I've never had an issue. Everybody that works in the construction around here has to travel. This project is going to last for what, five years, six years. When it's over, you're back to traveling again. There's plenty of work around here. Um, I don't understand, you know, why this is a big push for I guess what I need to know from the county is, you know, what's what's the direction the county is going? Is this staying rural? Am I making a mistake by moving my family here or is it turning into commercial and industrial because I literally am across the street. When we have the next hearing, I'll be a lot more prepared. All right. Thanks, guys. Thank you, sir. Is there any

others? Sir, I think I think this gentleman was coming up, but go ahead. You're there. you're there. Go ahead. Go ahead. Darren Colom, 11371 Bloomsbury Road here in King George. Um, directly across the street from the project. We bought our house eight years ago because of the setting, beautiful farmlands, and now you're going to turn it into industrial. Um, less than three miles from the county line. if if that's you know the the picture you want to present is industrial that that's going to hit the nail on the head. Um I saw nothing in the profers where they offered any consideration to um the local properties for what might happen to our wellwater once you start disturbing the land and what could potentially happen to our septic systems. You all know that we're running off of wells and septics over there. So, I'd just like that to be part of your consideration also. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Good evening. Thank you, uh, Chair Williams. Uh, I just wanted to give the residents a chance to speak. I live in Alexandria, Virginia, and, uh, I work for the IBW Local 26, and I just like to talk, uh, about the workforce development. So, uh, there's going to be 19 buildings there. So we know that uh on average we have 30 members working in every completed building doing maintenance work for six or seven different contractors on any given day. So um that's that's almost 600 job jobs that aren't part of those permanent jobs because those jobs are who work for the

end user. So they don't count the contractors. Also I just um as they we're 45% of the construction of a data center. So with those numbers up there, that would be over 800 electrical jobs per year for 10 years, the projects from 2027 and 2037. And I I just like also like to make a a uh a plea that uh we'd really uh like to uh establish a relationship with your schools because uh uh we had we bought in 500 apprentices last year because of this industry. We went from bringing in 300 a year now to 500. We also organized another 2480 folks last year to join our union replace some folks retiring but mostly to uh to make the meet the demand of the data center industry and this industry has uh including other counties in the area has jobs on the books for a next decade and a half. So you know we really have a problem in the past in uh in construction where it's the cyclical nature when interest rates go up we lose people have to sit on the bench but uh this industry is in boom for the next 15 years and uh data used to double every year and a half now data doubles every year there's only 1% occupancy on these data centers they're going to continue to come it's a it's a miracle as far as I'm concerned I spent 25 years working for the national labor movement dealing with dislocation globalization de-industrialization and going around going to towns and and bringing other unions to come together to feel the pain of the workers that were losing their jobs. We couldn't stop it, but we wanted to feel their pain, make them sure somebody cared. This is totally different experience. This local union has doubled since I got here in the last eight years because of the data center industry. And these are safe, clean jobs and uh very well-paying. Graduates of our apprentichip program make $62 an hour with another $28 in benefits. the uh we have over 200 contractors a part of this program. 30 women and minority owned businesses and uh we really would like to provide that opportunity for the

uh uh for the community college and for the high schools in your area. We work with women's sports clubs to try to get the youth soccer teams and and uh to to try to convince young ladies that this is a great occupation for them. Uh we're doing everything we can uh you know in in Washington DC uh we we have a step-up program so DC residents uh get our apprentichip wage that that $26 an hour as uh and get two years to get into our apprentichip program. We could do something similar here. So it'd be really great to uh provide this kind of middle class uh opportunity for the residents of King George County so people can live and work and you saw our members really would love to work nearby. Thank you. Thank you sir. Is there any others? Yes, sir. Yeah. Hello. My name is John Kirst. I'm a retired local 26 member other live in Jamestown subdivision in La Pla behind the Pepsi plant. I get traffic all the time. I hear noise all the time. My dad has a house. He passed away February 28th of 2022. His house is right at the College of Southern Maryland. He's been there 42 years. They keep building more buildings over there. He has plenty of well water. the well still works. So, you know, I'm just passing on lifetime experiences and uh I think these guys need work closer to home. I had to travel all my life. Two hours to get over to Manasses. I mean, I've worked at several data centers. They're mitigating so much. The the walls, ask them how how thick the concrete walls are that they're putting up that are pre-cast. They're 6 8 10 in 12 in thick. The noise is very minimal. People say stuff that aren't aware. They've never been there. I've been there. I've been in all these buildings. I did the first AOL, the second AOL, the third AOL, and the Micron technology. I know that they come in with these pre-cast. They silence the stuff. They they set limits. They mitigate every problem. They work as

diligently as po diligently as possible to mitigate any problems that might come up. You know, EPA, they try to meet every standard that they can. and I feel it's a it's a good idea to go ahead and build this place. Thank you very much. Thank you, sir. Is there another? No, no, ma'am. You sure? Hi, my name is Maria Lobo. I live in Presidential Lakes and I've been here since my 20s. in this place. I had to go shopping in Maryland. I I rent some more. I go the Washington DC and it's never been a problem going somewhere. I wanted that you think about it really hard what you put in the residence. We had a problem from the 40 years ago from the water and sewage. The people in happy yard pay a lot of money. They pay a debt. They pay for the service authority. Please, I want you to think in very clear this thing what you're doing. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, ma'am. All right. Are there any others? Right. Seeing that there are no others, the public comment uh on resolution PC0525, green intervention reszoning uh is now closed. Okay. um committee. Um do we want to speak on this now or do you want to wait till the uh except special exception? Want just keep going? I would keep going. All right. First, I suggest

Okay. All right. So, um, who wants the floor, you don't have to take the floor? Okay, I'll take it, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Dyson, you have the floor. Thank you. Um, I have a few com I have a few comments and then I have a few questions if you don't mind. Um, comments. I'm I'm very concerned that we had a number of county residents that live adjacent to this project that have come up and said they've not been contacted. That's very surprising to me. As long as you put up this long list of this has been going on for a very long time and you've still not contacted the folks at Lraange, you've not contacted the folks at the street on Bloomsberry. Um that's very concerning to me. It makes me question um other statements that we've heard. But going on with that, there's a couple things that have come up in the latest documentation that I wanted to ask about. One is a statement that that as you are aware, we've been very concerned about your water usage and there's restrictions about using water usage for data centers in current ordinance. And when you first came to us with proposals, you said you would not use public, you would not use water for your cooling. Yet now I see in the documentation my laptop's I'm just going to paraphrase. Oh, there it is. Uh, no water cooling of data center equipment will be permitted on the property unless and until the property is connected to and serviced by the King George County Service Authority water system. So suddenly we now have documentation, this the first time I've noticed it, that says that we may be now on the hook in the county to provide you. I don't

know. I don't see an estimate of how many gallons of water that the county may have to now provide you when you try to get connected. It's very concerning to me that there's been a sudden change in your position about water usage. this was going to be a closed loop air cooled system that did not need a tap into the rapid hammock. So that's a big concern to me. My other concern is that I see that you know you're asking for an exception to the 50 foot height to go 65 and 90 ft but even that says that it's exclusive of parapets screening and sound equipment. So I ask you what is your max altitude and the max height of your buildings? You do not state it. Is it 120 ft? Is it 150 ft? I don't know. You said 95, but it excludes all these other things which I have no estimate for. I don't know if your graphics include those extra parapets, sound deadening, and screening for the top side on on the top of the building. So, I I don't know what your height of your building is ultimately going to be. And I was asking the the uh fire chief here about, you know, access to that and says it's not that big of a deal in an industrial building, but still I'd like to know what sort of height our sheriff our fire and rescue people have to be prepared to deal with in this building. Do we do we plan for 90 and then we get up there and go, "Oh, no. It's another 20 ft taller. I don't know. It doesn't state it. All right. So, um, so those are the couple issues that I'd like to get some responses back. It could be it could be later, it can be now. That's up to the chairman how he wants to handle

that. So, what I'm going to first let me ask Chief Moody, would you like to an opportunity to respond to those that question as well? Uh, I know the applicant does want So, whichever one wants to go first, it does it doesn't matter. Sure. Yeah. So, uh, we'll ask the applicant to respond to those questions or give them the opportunity to respond. Yes, sir. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you for the opportunity to respond. Um, far as reaching out to community, I I went and knocked on doors and I passed out in some cases extra material so the neighbors could because some people weren't home. So, I pass out to some of the neighbors. I'm not sure that happened. I gave out multiple materials and cards to call. So, if I miss somebody, you got my cards now. And I'll be glad to keep talking to people as I can get a hold of them. But sometimes people aren't home and I don't have phone numbers. But I really made an effort to try to reach out community meetings and etc. So, uh, we'll continue to do that and if we need to have more community things, we'll continue to do that. Um the second question you had was about water and we do plan to continue with the closed loop system but the county is in the process of doing interconnection designs between Hopyard and Oakland Park which includes a purple line water which comes from Hopyard because if you remember Hopyard is to be the central sewer treatment facility. Oakland Park is being decommissioned. It will connect to Hopyard. Uh Perkins Corner is in process of now being connected to Hopyard. Hopyard has a treatment capacity today of about 300,000 gallons. It's approved for about 500. And so we will connect to that system and participate to make sure those improvements can happen including the interconnection. We'll work with the

service authority on agreement. But if the if the county has available uh water, purple line water like you see in other areas, let's say they got a half a million gallons of water, instead of putting it into the river, they can sell it to the industrial users. Why would you not want to do that? We don't have to use it, but we could be a customer and maybe use it for those purposes. So, we're not going to pull ground water or everything else. But if the county and the service authority has the ability to get water, industrial water, war, and you want to sell it, why do you want to strict yourself not to sell it? That's our point. So, it's not like we're going to say, "Well, we're going to use your public water." If you got something for industrial purpose, like a Purple Line water or some other sources of water and you want to sell it, don't limit anybody to really connect to it. Otherwise, we stay with our closed loop system. And we've already said we're never going to use groundwater anyway. So, that's the response to that. Um, trying to think of what you had another question. It was one about the height. Oh, the height more more than 90 ft. Yeah, I think the buildings the way the code reads is it measures the height of the building. So, the roof line that's the way you're So, you're 35 feet, your 50 feet doesn't include anything above that either. So our our measurement is being consistent the way the ordinance is. So if you got 35 feet up to 50 feet, we're measured to that 65 ft. It doesn't include anything on top of it. The only thing we would need on top of that with a parapit would be for sound attenuation or visual impacts. Generally that works would be about 10 to 12 feet. Really depends on how far back. Sometimes you even set it back. the more recent buildings you're actually setting back from the facade a little bit. That's the way they're engineering. We're also finding

mechanical equipments being a little more soundproof than usual because the sound comes from the fans. So the only thing in addition to that which is 35, 50, 65 or 90 would be that attenuation wall for sound or visual impacts to cover equipment that generally ranges about 10 to 12 feet. So were was that extra 10 to 12 feet included in your sighteline renderings? It was not, but it wasn't included in the 35 or 50 either. So we we can make it consistent, but we wanted to be consistent the way the ordinance measures it. So if you looked at it, the 35 ft didn't include it either. Neither did the 50, which is your ordinance. And so uh and we we actually and you're closer to the road, by the way. So, uh, that's the answer to that. If you need more specific information about, you know, what do you need for soundproofing, but it's really based upon equipment and making sure you meet those decibel levels that you're propering to. So, Mr. Chairman, I've got one last question for And while you're up there, I I'd like a little clarification on the on the traffic and the traffic assessment. If I'm understanding that correctly, you were estimating 16,000 construction jobs. That's over the life. That's over the life of the job. How many at one time do you would you anticipate being involved in the construction of this project? 10 year it's a 10 to 12 year project if I remember correctly. Let's see. It was uh No, it goes out to 2038 for phase two. So it's uh 13 years from now. Yeah. Okay. It's about a 10 to 12 year build. Yeah. How many how many people will be going in and out of that construction site? Because your traffic

estimate was based on the 1,200 approximately 1,200 employees at full buildout. Right. Well, you'll you have more than that during construction? No, you'll you'll have first of all, you're not going to start building everything all at once. You'll do it in phases. We think we'll start with quarter million feet and then the next year maybe half a million and then you're about 73 buildings, you know, two to three buildings a year. It's hard to construct more than that. These are, you know, good size, but you'll have a,00 to,500 employees there at the same time, you know, and you have to park them. We have to work with VOTE on entrance permits and traffic control. That's all permitted with VOTE. And uh our traffic analysis did not include that because we wouldn't asked to do that. But we actually have to mitigate that traffic during the permitting process with VOTE. So they make sure that it's a safe condition. And all the access would come off of Route Three, not on Bloomsberry, unless you're doing improvements to Bloomsberry Road itself or you're doing something with your own building once it's dedicated. But we want all the access construction and primary to come off of Route Three. That's the safest place to do it. Not Bloomsbury. So during construction, you're expecting it to be approximately the same number as full buildout. You said 12 to 1500, you know, probably pretty close. Yeah. Okay. And sir, you you said there was an additional 600 employees that aren't even included in his 1200 act when they're completed. So we could be up to 1,800. No, no, that's all included in that. Yeah, that's Yeah. Yeah. not what he said, but we really want to mitigate impacts on Bloomsberry Road. That's why we reduce the entrances and and the improvements on that. One thing that has to happen on Bloomsberry today because it's used by industrial

traffic is the improvements at the intersection of Bloomsberry and Route Three because it's a dangerous place now. So, that's why we made sure we started there first. I had a few questions. Yes, you sir. Um, I'll be quick. Mr. Chair, um, I have to think on the deferring this decision until we know what is happening with the Birwood project, Birchwood data center project um would really uh help frame the decision. we if both projects are live and and going through construction and development at the same period at the same time um and operating at the same time. Do we want that density of data center whether we accept data centers or or not? Um that that's 15 million square foot and just for this project alone um we're talking about 1.2 two ter of power. That's about 4,000 tractor trailers starting up at ground level every month that they test these generators. And this isn't smoke stack. This isn't a birchwood smoke stack. Ground level 5,000 well 3500 4,000 track trailers starting up at once. That's a lot of diesel. If it were gas, I'd feel better. But, um, diesel is dirty. Diesel's got particulate matter. We have steel since elementary. We have we have enough particulate matter going going into the air with the methane burning at at the dump. Um and I remember at at the last board

of supervisors meeting um supervisor Binder made made the point that um community information informed community um is is a responsibility we expect of applicants that we don't expect to hear from adjacent land holders. I learned about it from the sign posting on these project scales and I believe she may have the same the same view on on this at at that point. Um, we we should have a gas line there and and I think we really ought to consider banning supplementary emergency diesel backup um for over a megawatt or five megawatt. Um the it's still resoning A1 and some of our best A1 and it's tragic that it's across the Hopyard but it's some of our best A1 and um I can't support this project based on that alone and I I love my IBW brothers and we Lord knows we need revenue u but if there's another spot Maybe the gravel pits, you know, some spoiled industrial land that will never never be farmland again. You I'd rather see green houses there. I'd rather see got to be industrial industry to support our local agriculture, markets, processing plants, those kinds of uses. I don't think this is the best use. Right. Thank you, Mr. Darter. Um, Mr. Myers, I think you will the floor. Yes, I had I had a few questions. Um, first of all, a lot of people said they heard it

first of all from the science. Did we mail on this on Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. All of them were mailed. Okay. So, that was the first question. Next, power lines for this. Obviously, there's going to be a lot of power lines coming in. The other the other project we looked at had power lines already to it, although they were going to have to add more. Where are you planning on getting power lines? Because question 27 I'll show you. Okay. Which package? It was in the extra slides. We did a composite that put a lot of things in place. So, um, when questions like this come up, we do our best to answer them. So, again, this is, uh, the industrial zone that you've been planned. We've been in it for or it's been in for two decades. Just one other comment, too. I don't know if you remember, but in 2009, uh, Harris Teter tried to do a food distribution center on about 200 acres of this. and uh it was ready to go was going to be on this property right in here 200 acres and when Kroger bought it fell apart but that was for food distribution center and then in 2015 there was a steel manufacturing facility that actually went to site plan but then it also failed because of market conditions. So this propertyy's had a lot of industrial uses proposed on it just failed to happen. And frankly if you look at all these industrial uses that could potentially happen here because your comp plant says you can do certain things including distribution manufacturing data centers is probably the least intensive industrial use in that

district. Big biggest tax revenue and generates the least amount of traffic. But the power line there's a 500 KV line right here. That's an existing line. And I don't know if you realized it, but last week in Stafford on this 500 KV line, a data center was submitted for a data center campus. I don't know if you realize that. So, it's right here on the county line, right there where that K 500 KV line is. So, we're going to be serviced with this 230 KV line, which went into Birchwood, but now also connects to us. These easements are actually there. So, we've actually designed the infrastructure to connect from that 230 because we have to use a 230 line. We can't go to directly to a 500 KV. And so, it'll come directly through here and be that's why these substations are located here. So, we've actually gone down the road a lot with V with Dominion about these. In fact, we I think we even supplied a will serve letter from Dominion about supplying power to us. I think we put that in the zoning application. So, uh, but we're well down the road. We're actually designing substations right now and we pay for those. We paid for all that infrastructure. It's about $60 million every substation. So, we've got four time 60. We got a quarter billion dollars in substations plus all the infrastructure upgrade. But that's the answer about the power line. Where where is that 230 cutting across from? The 230 is tying into the This is all existing, by the way. There's a 500 KV. This is 230. It I'm sorry, 230 is up here. And then it tied into this is where the Birchwood plant was, but then extends down to us. There's an existing easement here. It goes through the industrial park and that's where that line, our feed will come from the north. Okay. And that's

enough power to run the whole thing. That's enough. Well, over time they have to upgrade it. We can't start immediately because we don't need it, but Dominion will upgrade that and uh we'll bring substations online. If we don't build the data centers, we don't have to build a extra substation. So, it's really based on demand. Okay. Backup power for this is that diesel backup power. Well, actually, we've been discussing that a lot because we've been talking about using compressed gas. We looked at gas extension. Gas is probably 20 miles away. We talked to Columbia Gas and some others, but there really isn't capacity in the system because even if Colombia Gas could put a pipeline through here, there's not a gas enough gas in the supply chain to supply it to put it in the pipeline. So, we've been discussing using compressed gas generators, keeping it on site in lie of diesel. uh it's still a you know fossil fuel to some extent but it's not like a diesel and so uh we've been discussing that you know a long time ago we were trying to figure out hydrogen fuel generators but it just couldn't scale out but that's one thing we've been looking at are those generators put inside a building or there if we had a rendering of that but it's right next to the building and the supply of that is below it so the generators are on top the supply fuel supplies below it. They sit on top of it just on the on the outside of the building. Are there high walls or any noise abatement? What are what are you doing? I mean, it Well, the noise abatement is because the buildings are facing the roads and everything else is internal. So, and again, they only operate when they're tested, but the power goes out and you have to test them from time to time, but you'd operate it at certain times of the day, so you mitigate noise,

but they're covered by the buildings. And there's how many? There's, from what I understand, there's 25 or 30 generators per building. I can't answer that. Maybe one of my electrical brothers can answer that when they've been building them all the time. But, you know, there's a lot of them. Okay. Each building is about 20 megawws. All right. So, um I want to go back to uh the question that um about the height. This is a question for you. Actually to give Chief Woody an opportunity to to respond or if you if you would like the floor. By the way, we changed our cash to go to the fire marshall at building permit, not at occupancy. And building permits are pretty upfront, you know, early site plan process. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Uh, so the uh the parapit, I believe the applicant is correct. Um, that does not include the total building height. So the 90 the 50 foot, 60 foot or 90 foot are pretty much uh pretty much all the same for the fire department perspective. Very well. Yes, ma'am. So a follow on question. Um the ladder truck that is proposed uh is that in the current CIP? It is. Okay. And um it's going to be housed in Dogrin when that facility will be opened. Do you know when that'll be? Uh, so that's under design. Currently, we're looking at approximately about two years. And yes, it would be housed at that station. Do you know approximately the response time from Dogrin all the way to uh this area in Bloomsberry? Probably be about probably anywhere between 10 to 15

minutes. Okay. And do you have any concerns? Uh I know we already when we have you know even a moderate incident we pull from neighboring counties and and jurisdictions with the battery uh storage facility and the solar and these you the ones that are proposed. Um do you feel like it's uh that we're able to cover all those bases? Well, that's a that's a pretty pretty complex question. Um, you know, I I'll say as as the county is looking at continued growth and as it's looking to put more residential rooftops, as it's looking to put more commercial rooftops, these data centers are are data center complexes. These are, you know, we're talking, we're not talking one or two buildings, we're talking, you know, 14 to 16 buildings uh per complex. uh each building being anywhere between 250 to 280,000 square foot um they require a very robust uh fire department response if they catch fire. Uh give you a little perspective. Uh we run 18 personnel per shift out of three stations that we have in the county. So every 24 hours we have uh anywhere between 11 to 18 personnel that are on ship uh protecting the community, responding to the community. Uh one of the data centers that caught fire, I think it was back in uh 2015 was in Lowden County. It was an Amazon building. uh that required a hundred firefighters to respond and to you know suppress and and put that fire out. So we would it you know there's no question that it would require a a lot of pull

from our our neighboring uh mutual aid partners, our surrounding counties. Um that's why we have the agreements and um and you know we're they're here to help us. Uh we're there to help them. it does come with a caveat and that is they can't provide assistance if they can't render assistance. If they're tied up on their with their community, uh they can't come to King George and help us. And so there is some sense of of of sustainability that we have to maintain, you know, within our own department and protect our own county. So I hope that I hope that touches a little bit on your your question. It does. And I I don't know a lot about the capacity of our fire department or the neighboring counties, but you say we need about 100 people or possibly up to 100 people. Would those neighboring agreements meet that capacity provided they don't have other emergencies? It certainly could. Um, you know, and I I think again as as if if it is the county's decision to bring uh these data center complexes uh on board and to the county. Um all of our services, particularly uh the fire and rescue department. We're going to have to to uh continue to hire more people, um obtain more apparatus. We have three data center complexes on the books um as we speak and and along with everything else. Uh there's probably going to be a point we're going to need more than one ladder truck. I mean, you know, if uh the the 50 foot, 60 foot or 90 foot doesn't move the needle much for us. Um these are low occupancy buildings, but you know, if they catch on fire, they're problematic. uh and you need to have a a robust response.

I appreciate your perspective. Thank you. Chipm I have a question uh on that along those lines. I think the one of the profiters were uh like a 100,000 if I'm if I'm correct towards training. Does that training uh implement include all the other surrounding counties? Would you pull them in for specialized training for that? you know, it's possible and I think the 100,000 uh is probably going to go more towards equipment. Okay, so if we look at look take the ladder truck for example, every about every 90 days that price is going up. So every time we don't order and I say, "Hey, I need a new price because your quote's expiring, that price is is going up." on on a ladder truck, we're looking at probably about $200,000 of equipment just on the ladder truck. Okay. And that's why, you know, I I put the price in the CIP the way I did. Yeah. Um, so you know, the way that the way data centers are starting to uh spread throughout our region, I I don't think it's probably going to be something that, hey, our data centers are are more special than your data centers in Stafford or Spennsylvania. Um I you know I do think there'll probably be some some shared training uh resources certainly in emergency planning and through the local emergency planning committee uh you know there there are some special hazards in these particularly lithium ion batteries uh and and you know um there's certain you know we'd have to ensure that our neighbors know what it is they're responding to and also the community that's part of the uh you know the community right to know and what hazards are in the facilities. Any other questions for Chief Chief Moody? Thank you so much. Thank you.

All right. There's no more. Yes, sir. Have a minute. So, not so much questions that I expect anybody to answer, but I I will pose one for Kelly if she's So, I heard quoted that, you know, at buildout an estimated tax revenue out of this this complex of like 18.5 million annually. All right. Last time we discussed a data center, we were given a large number like that and it turned out that that ain't really what's coming to the county. So I asked Kelly and our county attorney, do you guys know what's actually how much of that 18 million would actually come to the county? because I'm hearing that public safety is going to have to expand in order to accommodate the kind of growth we're anticipating. You know, is the money there? Mr. Chairman, I'll try to answer that question. As far as I know, this does not um they will not apply and it does not qualify for the state infrastructure grant that that I think you're talking about AWS won't have that problem with this particular Well, I can't guarantee that if if for some reason I think right now AWS is the only one that qualifies for that because it requires $ 35 billion in investment in Virginia and I think they're the only company that's done that that's not saying that AWS couldn't buy this. And I don't know if he has a buyer, if he has a contract. My understanding was that he did not. But if AWS wanted to buy it, I assume they could and they would qualify. But then the county would have to enter into a performance agreement and agree to that. The count both the

county and the the IDA have to do that. EDA, I'm sorry, have to enter into those agreements which allow the tax rebates, the infrastructure grants, all those sorts of things as as posed by the applicants. Um, it does not appear that they intend to do that. Not to say that it couldn't happen given the right set of circumstances. That's the best I can answer that question. Well, let me go back to the applicant then. Um what is your company will build it you're not going to operate it. Is that my understanding? First of all uh data centers are pretty quiet. They don't advertise who they are. In fact when I did campus up in and I did a six million square foot campus uh I had to one year they held that seven num seven figure number that I couldn't say who it was. Eventually came out. We work with Google up there, but uh they're very quiet. It's a closed loop. Uh when AWS came out, it was unusual for that industry. Uh we have had zero discussion with them. We're working with a number of other end users. We may build for them. We may give them pads. We haven't decided yet, but we're capable of either one. So when you talk about what might happen in the future in terms of like using water cooling if when the county eventually gets down to that part of the county with their distribution system, it's not really you who's going to make that decision. It's going to be some follow on buyer of this project, right? Well, we're not looking for public water for cooling. And uh but you made the comment in your package that if water came into that area, you know, industrial water. Understand. Let me if I can go to a

slide. We have another slide. This might help. There's a It had the water sewer distribution. Maybe that'll explain a little bit about the water. So this is that one right there. So this is an overall what the county is in the process of doing right now. This is Perkins Corner. You're actually, I believe, started construction for this system and you're going to hook this up to Hopyard. This is your central sewer treatment. I think that's long-term plan. This is Oakland Park. And so they want to connect, they want to decommission this. So you're engineering this sewer line to go to Oakland Park, I'm sorry, to Hopyard. Right. And so we would connect to that, but there's a purple line that has been talked about. In fact, they're going to design it that it's, you know, treated and that would go up to the industrial users up here because they're a natural buyer for it. I have a general idea of what you're trying to explain already. I'm trying to get at the point is when you talk about future, it's not really you. It's it's going to be whoever buys this from you. Well, maybe us. We may put up our buildings and lease them to the end buyer. We, you know, that's seems a nature of the thing. It's not guaranteed that way. Or we'll, you know, the end buyer might put up the building, but we're that's how that business works. All right. Okay. So, in in general, I I still have a lot of questions about storm water runoff. You know, I haven't I haven't maybe I've missed it, but I haven't seen it in your presentations to ask how you're going to handle storm water runoff. I mean, I mean, I even in my residential land, I've got water that runs off of my neighbors onto my land. It's it's irritating to me to some of our residents and here at this site because

of so much of the the buildup that's going on. It could turn into more than an irritation. It could turn into a real problem. So, I I would like to hear you, not right now, but in a more formal way, address how that would be handled so that it's not devastating to your neighbors. Uh, I still got serious questions about, you know, they're coming in here, they're going to make a boatload of money off of this project. We're going to see some of it in terms of tax revenue, but it's still going to have a hell of an impact. public safety is gonna I don't want to put the chief on the spot. He's a great guy and he's running a great organization, but I think he's trying to say that it's going to have to enlarge without actually saying that he's going to need people. He's going to need equipment. He's going to need more training. I mean, the cost there hasn't been quantified yet. And and I'm and I'm looking at are we really going to see the income off of this from a tax base that that people keep throwing numbers out at. I don't have a high confidence in those numbers right now. Now, you know, and I and I'll be honest with you, sir, your profers, I mean, you're not even paying for the you're not even paying the full price for the ladder truck when you talk about profering 2.1 million when it's 2.7 million. Is that a good number, too? And as he said, that's going up almost daily. You know, forget about the fact that we're going to have to hire more people. you know that even if we got the 18 million 18 and a.5 million out of this as annual income at the end of the construction, we're going to have to pay for more firefighters. We're going to have to buy more equipment. I I mean, I get the feeling that some people look at this number and they see this panacea of all the things the county could do. Now,

they could pay off some of the debt of the service, you know, authority or or whatever they could do for the county. And I'm just thinking that unless we do three or four of these, we're not going to see that kind of money. And one other one just for the board, the commission members is that's a lot of buildings on a fairly small site. It is jammed packed. You look at that site plan, you know, except for that land to the north that they don't really explain what they're using it for. It's just crammed in there elbow to elbow, you know. Um, so I have some concerns here that I haven't heard addressed yet. Financial, storm water runoff, the crowding, the traffic. I hate the idea of four or five entrances into this site when we're looking at one on on the east side of it and another one on the west side of it. probably going to come in asking for the same kind of thing. So, how many traffic lights, interchanges are we going to wind up with within a couple of miles there? So, I I'm just I got things here that make me uneasy. All right. Thank you, sir. I buy into pardon me. I buy into the idea that a data center does provide quite a few jobs. It doesn't put a huge impact onto the other resources of the county like the schools. um it will draw people into the county to to live so that they can work near it. But I mean it's got some positives as an industrial facility goes. It's fairly clean. There's issues about the you know the noise which I'm not positive has been addressed but at least it's been

acknowledged. Um, there's the the emergency generators and what kind of noise and pollution will come out of those that I don't quite understand yet. So, there's still a lot of questions here. When we went through the first project, we drugged that company or that developer through through a knot hole trying to get information out of him. We've had a number of presentations from this applicant, but we really haven't subjected him to a lot of those same things that we did the first time around. myself. I'm not sure in my mind that this presentation and the information we have is mature enough for me to make a decision one way or another. I'm sort of on the fence right now. All right. Okay. I think um at this point um No, we're going to move on. It's Yeah, we're going to move on. No, sir. We're We're going to move on. We're going to move on. We're not going to go this. We have another public hearing to go on. So we're going to chairman we heard a lot of things. So when we come back we'll answer a lot of things like your like your storm water. We actually do a lot we've done a lot of work on that because we're trying to collect rainwater systems and use it for you know water for humidification or flush toilets. So we we're spend a lot of time on conservation efforts but we'll make sure that's all included. Thank you sir. Thank you. We're not going to, sir. Mr. Chairman, you need to take action on them separately because they're they're separate applications. So, you can do whatever action you're going to do on this one public. Yeah, sure. Yes, sir. Mr. Stewart, I So, we now have a application to us, which all of our applications are on a timeline, and the application that was brought to us can't be approved because the building heights are too tall.

So, I don't want to personally be on the clock on this. So, do we need to turn this down and have them reapply or how do we handle that? I know there's a motion to have us at a public hearing because I saw it when I got here today. But, we have a project that doesn't meet the guidelines right now. So, we either need to fix the guidelines or we need to do something with it. you have a 100 days to act on this from the public hearing. Um the applicant can also wave that timeline if they so choose. I know the board initiated um an initiating resolution to talk about the height and I think that's lagging about a month behind. Um, I don't know if the applicant has a preference if they would want to um ask you to defer to let that catch up or not. That would be up to them. Um, you can take action on it. Um, either way you could vote to approve it or recommend approval, recommend denial, whichever you prefer. Um there's case law that says um profering that uh trumps the ordinance of the county. I don't I don't like that. I don't think it's good practice for the county to do, but there is case law out there that says you can do that. So you still have those options. Um I don't how understand how we got to a public hearing though without a building height that was the applicant wanted to proceed and um there were discussions about the building height. The board initially had some reservations about having a discussion about going over 50 feet or 60 feet I think is what we said because that's what we thought it was. And then I think the board decided that they would at least send it

to you all to consider it and that's just the way the timeline evolved. Could we make the chairman make a suggestion that that's might help process? We didn't think we were going to get any discussion or votes tonight. Would probably go another month. And with that said, I think your text amendment discussion comes up next month anyway. So I think that could catch up and that way you can look at everything holistically. So we wanted to have the public hearing. We can meet people that we've been trying to get a hold of and now we can meet them and make sure they're well informed. So I think there's a lot of benefits to waiting till March or until May again and we can come back and answer some of the questions that we heard tonight. make sure that the people that said we didn't contact because we we honestly tried I I knocked on doors. I didn't somebody didn't answer. I really tried hard. I in fact I went to all the businesses in the industrial part almost went to every one of them trying to figure out a way how you can do business with locals steel plant concrete. Like I spent an hour and a half with the concrete manufacturer day looking at all their opportunities and what they do. They do a lot of data center work environmental group. Uh Kristen was I met with her multiple times and she might help us procure all that landscaping that we got to put on Route three in Bloomsbury because we profered bigger. So we're trying to work with local businesses too. It's not just your neighbor. It's the businesses that are next door. So we have no problem. Let's let the text amendment I think come to you next month anyway. We can talk more and that way you can look at things holistically. But I didn't think you were going to act on anything tonight anyway. Okay. Are you are you good waving? You're right. 100.

Hi, I'm Clark Lemming. Sounds like it's time for the lawyers to I don't think there's any writed issue here. Uh there's a zoning application that's before you. As Mr. Mitchell indicated, we don't expect we didn't expect you to act on this. We know that there is a text amendment that's been referred to you. So, I think there's an opportunity for all these things to marry up, but I've I've not been before this commission anytime recently when you've acted on the night of the first public hearing. You do have questions and things you want us to get back to you on. Correct. So, I think that's the normal course of business. Okay. And you'll deal with the height amendment and as Mr. Stewart indicated, that's one way to go to address the height issue. There's no project without additional height here, but the proper and I believe you, sir, Mr. Myers mentioned at one meeting a condition do a special exception accomplishes the same thing. Now the county attorney doesn't like the appearance of that but legally that does the same thing. You could also add another provision your special exception requirements for height. Um there are many ways you could do it. So you know we're here to work with you. uh and I think there are a number of issues that you want more information on and we want the opportunity to give you that information and I think height will get addressed in the overall context of of that uh effort. I don't know if you need something more formal. We certainly don't expect you to take and didn't expect coming here for you to take any action on the zoning application tonight. You still have another public hearing to go. Not sure why you didn't consolidate them, but you do. So, thank you, Mr. N. Thank you. Yes, sir. Mr. Chairman, y'all have a 100 days to act on this application um based upon what I'm hearing. So, you you can defer it on your own. Sounds like to me that they expected that. Yes,

sir. And you still have plenty of time to act on it. This is we do it here. If we vote on that, we have a public hearing next month. The public the public hearing on the resoning has been closed. So we need you. No, that Yeah, the hype does need to have a public hearing. You have another one tonight that does not. I'm sorry. Yes, you will have to have a public hearing on that and take action on it. Correct. And and I It makes sense depending upon what you all do for everything to go to the board at one time so it's all consolidated. Right. So correct. I make a motion that we defer this to the third meeting out. Well, we're we have one before us now. So the one that's before us, we still have um Well, we just we just defer this to the next meeting to continue discussing it, right? Okay. Okay. Well, all right. The motion is to uh refer Z-2022 000021 to the next meeting. Second. Motion's been made and seconded. was the second. I'm sorry. Sean made the motion second, Mr. Chairman. They should be done simultaneously. Each No, each case individually. You You advertised a public hearing on a special exception and there were folks who came for that. So, yes, sir. You should hold your public hearing on that. We will. Yes,

sir. Um, so I call a roll on that. Can they vote on that? We should have the hearing to defer. Okay. Yeah, I'll call the role for the motion to defer. Okay, Mr. Parker seems to have gone. Mr. Dorta, Mr. Palota, hi. Mr. Kendrick, hi. Mr. Mat. Hi, Miss Flattley. Hi, Mr. Myers. Hi, Mr. Nicely. Hi, and Mr. Williams. Hi, we're still doing public hearing for the other two uh for Yes, cuz we only deferred the one. Just the one. We got one more. So, you're connected. At this time, I will open the the uh public hearing for resolution PC 06-25 Green Energy Ventures Special Exception uh public hearing. I again ask that you keep your u comments to three minutes. Uh and when approaching uh the podium, please state your name and address. Um now, so with that being said, first um I have Miss Debbie Fairfax. Good evening. I'm Debbie Fairfax, James Madison District. I'll try to keep it to 30 seconds. Um I had a question. If we um extend a special exception for data center for the use data center since

this is a data center campus how does that work since it's in phases so someone just if someone could answer that to me how often do they have to get permission um or is it just cart blanch now you can build data centers and the second is a quick comment to the wells comment in Stafford Um Charlie Payne who is speaking for a different entity said that wells have been damaged um under his projects but they have reimbursed the citizens whose wells were damaged. Now I'm not saying they will. I'm just adding to the conversation. So perhaps that could be considered as part of some sort of suggested profer um to make those who could be affected feel a little bit more comfortable. Thank you ma'am. Next Mr. Todd Fairfax. Todd Fairfax Kings Highway James Madison District. Rather than repeat everything I said, I'll just hit the highlights. Make the BMS taller so the sight lines obscure the buildings in totality from the earliest part of the construction. Uh number two, lower the sound levels from what is uh the ordinance level to uh 55 dBA daytime, 50 dBA nighttime. But all that's OBBE if I understand how the law works because the first the first hearing required the reszoning to allow for the special exception of now a reszoned to industrial use. So I think your second hearing is now OBBE because your first hearing has been deferred but I'm not the lawyer. So I'll defer to those who are smarter than me in that regard. But as I understand it, nothing got reszoned to industrial. So there's no opportunity for a special exception in industrial for a data center use. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Uh next, Mr. Bill, is he still here? Right. I think

so. All right, sir. Gentlemen, sir, you're you're next. If you have if No. Yes. If you want if you wish. No. Okay. [Music] Um, is there any is there anyone who wants who wish to speak at this point? Yes, sir. Darren Colom, 11371 Bloomsbury Road here in King George. Um, so, uh, you know, there was discussion about they aren't tapping into any county water source, but they were going to drill wells. And it's understandable that they need the wells for fire suppression, toiletries, cleaning, and and such things as that. But how many wells per building will they be drilling? Because that's going to affect my water aquifer. No doubt in my mind. So I I asked the board to ask that and and for the contractor to or the applicant to identify how many wells per building. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Are there any others? 11379. I live between Darren and Daario right across the street. I just want to make sure the number one priority for me is the runoff and contamination from all these the parking lot. There's all this impervious material now that's not going to absorb anything. That water's got to go somewhere. I hear aquifers or or sistns. I don't know if you guys have

seen that creek. I'm telling you that creek rises fast and it's farmland now. Once that there's a lot of stuff packed in there that the water is going to be a major problem. So that's that's my number one concern. I hope you guys consider it. And the contaminants, you know, Dario's got horses. The horse that horse farm has been there forever. um that creek, you know, I I plan on having livestock. You know, how is anybody going to test the water before and after to make sure that, you know, we're not having contaminants? So, that's my number one concern. I'll have more at the next meeting. Thank you, sir. Are there any others, ma'am? I I I think you've had your your two opportunities. Yes. Yes, ma'am. I I I'm sorry. I'm so sorry, man. I'm so sorry. But thank you. Are there any others? All right. Being my name is Nick Kobach, 171 Papa Road, Fredburg, VA. Uh, just one quick suggestion. Everybody's worried about aquifers. I deal with horse farms, this and that. I have a well myself. Just drilled a new well on my property. Next suggests to possibly consider deep wells as in super wells below thousand feet. That is a different walker that's not typically drilled for drinking especially in this county. That's it. Thank you, sir. All right. All right. Are there any others? Yes, sir. I just want to piggy back off what he said. They My name's John Kersh. live 102 Goddspeed Court LA Maryland that second aquafer and the third there's actually three aquafers so like you said if they do a deep well actually drilling

a well sometimes for all that waste water that's coming off from the spring and the runoff water they could drill a well and the water just go straight down the the deep well that they drill too I mean there's different mitigation problems but there's ways of mitigating and getting it corrected so that they don't have these problems where the roads flooded out this and that but that's that's my two cents. Thanks. Thank you, sir. All right. There any others? Right. Seeing that there are none, uh public comment uh period for resolution PC06-25, green energy ventures special exception is now closed. All right. Board, do we have any any other comments? Yes, sir. I'd like um the applicant to address the uh parking light parking lot lights um and then the storm water management in a in a manner that the general public will understand. Um and I would like to know if this will affect the rate for our county as far as the electricity. Uh there was a concern uh there and I think that um we we should speak to the whether or not you'll have multiple wells per building and whether or not that will actually cool anything or if it's just for the bathrooms there and and the building usage and the capacity of that. Um, yes. And I'm I'm disappointed that the that the public brings all these questions because I I think if I think you have all those answers. Um, I feel like um you had an opportunity that you missed that could have answered a lot of their their questions and it they might

not you might not have got so many against you speaking tonight. That's that's my only comments. Thank you, Sean. Yes, sir. You had the floor. Yes, sir. So, I'm actually surprised the the rate or potential for rate increases hasn't come up more tonight. There's been a ton of um chatter about this in local news the last few months. Uh in October, Dominion actually announced that they expected a rate increase annually by at least 2.7% which is directly attributable to increased demand from from data centers which they expect to go up. I forget the figure but uh 53% increase in rate base by 2030. Um there are some estimates that rates for residential could increase up to 69% on top of what it is today by the end of the decade which again is directly attributable to data center influxes into this region. Um there's also been a lot of new studies recently about energy harmonics and disruption based on proximity to data centers with strong correlation um in terms of the quality of power disruption disruption within 20 miles to data centers that have been built most notably in Northern Virginia and outside of Chicago and somewhere in Oregon. Um there are a lot of long-term impacts of data centers on localities that are not yet understood. So, since we're deferring this, I would probably implore the the the commission up here to look into this more um and not rush headlong into something that we don't understand how it's going to impact this community over the next 5, 10, 15, 20 years. The reality is the electrical grid is not set up to handle this amount of demand. Um, no matter what Dominion says, they're going to have to upgrade substantially that is going to bear a cost. I did see the the applicant shaking his head earlier about

that. But Dominion itself is saying the rates are going to have to go up, right? And that is directly attributable to these types of projects. Um, so a lot of things that we need to consider here on top of everything else everybody else said, but it's not as simple as here's $18 million in a low impact use of 300 someers. Thank you, sir. lower is open for Miss Flower. Yes, ma'am. Sure. I have some very specific questions about the water use. Um, for example, how how much water will you use from those wells for your uh general toilets and washing and etc. versus how much water that you're going to use for your air cooled system and where will the water come for the air cooled system? I was kind of hoping you could answer those now. I want to introduce Dale Hamus. He's one of our partners. Uh Dale also used to be the head of uh Loud and Water uh the public utility. I was a 20-year board member for that, too. And he can answer those uh questions. Thank you. Also, Scott Cudless uh used to be head of DEEQ on the water permitting side. He's retired and part of our team. And but between the two of them, I think we can answer your questions. So, so the first question, and correct me if I'm wrong, was how much water do we believe we will use out of the wells? And before I get to the answer to that

question, we are looking at two production wells for the entire site and maybe a backup well. Could be one well with a backup well. We like redundancy in the business. We like to be able to work on one well and use another. But there may be two production wells and a backup well. Or there may be one production well and a backup well. The reason for that is we're not going to be using a lot of water out of the ground. We're projecting about 35 employees in the build from 35 employees in the building. Um or rather, I'm sorry, the employees in the building using 35 gallons per day. And that's going to equate to somewhere between 60 and 70,000 gallons a day for the entire site. your homes use on you project 350 gallons per day per home. So you can do the math and do do the equivalency of water demand in terms of homes because ERC's or equivalent residential connections is one way we understand how much water we're going to use. So I can't do the math in my head but it's about 190 homes would be the equivalent demand of the entire site. So that's how much water we're going to use. We're not going to use any water for HVAC cooling. Sorry, I thought I thought there was some humidification. Uh humidification is is a Tell me how much where's that water coming from? Where's that water come from and how much will you use? This this is where we want to look at using the sistern water and storm water and treating it and using it for humidification. So, we're going to try to harvest rain water, treat it. We do this and it's done often. um and use that water for humidification. But that demand is probably another we're still working on I can't give you an exact number right now, but we're looking at weather data

to figure out what the humidity is during the year and the driest days. There are about 85 dry days during the year where we're going to have to humidify and we're still trying to figure out how much water that is going to be and whether or not these alternative sources that we are investigating will meet that demand. We think they will. As a part of our uh DEEQ well water withdrawal, groundwater withdrawal permit, we have to identify and evaluate alternate sources of water to lighten the load on the groundwater. So that's what we're in the process of doing right now. So you're saying that you you're not going to use groundwater for cooling, but you're basically using water before it gets gets into the the ground. So, you're still possibly denying the uh the creek and the other land um adjacent land of water that would have gone down into the aquifer. Have you done any calculations on what the effects are going to be? Generally speaking, about onethird of rain that falls goes into the ground and feeds the the aquafers. That's in my region. In this region, it's about the same. I believe 2/3 runs off and some of that runoff gets absorbed by by plants. So I can have Andy, our engineer, come up and talk more about the storm water system and how we will protect the stream, which we've just heard a lot of water rises very quickly in that stream. We want to capture some of that and put it to use to manage the runoff and also manage the demands that we have to lighten the load on the groundwater system. All of these are water use and water conservation measures that we're evaluating as a part of our groundwater

withdrawal permit application DEQ. And that process is moving forward. But reasonably, as a business, we can invest all the money that has to be invested to know the finite answer is we don't even know how much water we're going to be able to get out of the ground until DEEQ issues a permit to us. And that that is a little while off. Are there rules in place for how much water you can collect in Sistns? You got that in? I don't think there are rules, but I I don't know. I do know that we will not need but a a small part of the water that runs off the site or falls in in the form of rain. Well, you said not very much, but you also said you can't quantify. So, I can't scheme of things, I don't know what small is. Okay, so here's another way I can try to answer your question. Um, I provided water to 86 aircooled data centers and they used on average 3500 gallons per day and that's that's 10 houses per per site per building based on 350 gallons per house. That included humidification. So that's that gives you a better total number. That's about for 19 buildings. I can't do the math in my head, but 19 buildings times 3500 is what about 70,000 gallons. So part of that's domestic, part of that is humidification. And we're working on what the what the differences are because your rules don't allow us to use groundwater for humidification. Thank you. You're welcome.

Yes sir. Brief one brief question. Um are you in your reszoning application are you willing to restrict the use to data centers and accessory uses? Uh and I asked make sure we don't get you know a bottomed out project and then a a fish factory or something. All right. Well, to the extent possible, we're going to use our our uh our coffers that are already in in place and they are pretty restrictive. uh the groundwater supplied by the temporary groundwater wells will be used primarily to serve employees and other general facility users. In no event will it be used for water uh for water cooling of the equipment. Now in addition to that we have a determination from your county zoning administrator about the extent of the usage that's included as part of your package and we ask for that so that we would know where that line is. So it's domestic water use. uh it was indicated not even for humidification. So that's the extent of the use of that that answers your question. All right. Well then answer ask it again and we'll try again. My question was um will you agree to restrict your use to the data center and accessory uses. um to preclude the industrial zoning going into uh you know any heavy

industry could subsequently go into that spot. Were you willing to restrict your special acception permit to data centers and accessory uses? Well, the entire statement restricts us to use of data centers. Recall your issue with the prior zoning. I really didn't understand your question. But recall your issue with the previous zoning tonight. You know, broad open commercial center. We have that problem. This is data centers. If we're going to do something other than data centers, we got to come back. Sure. Right in the beginning. It's okay. Well, it's in the proper statement. Permitted uses. This is Roman numeral 2. The permitted primary use of the property is as a data center and accessory uses. So if we came in with some other major industrial use, the propert wouldn't support it. limit the use of the property to the data centers under the set of law. Okay. Well, ask your Is it still on? Oh, right. Okay. That's not the I believe it restricts it to Yes, I believe it. Is that satisfactory for the primary use to be a the way I interpret is the primary use is a data center and then any ancillary or accessory use to the data centers is all they can do. Okay. So that answers your question. Okay. Thank you Mr. Living. All right. Um zinc at this point um is has everyone

spoken their their piece? Okay. All right. Uh so even though we know what the motion will be, um I still need it. So, um, I make a motion that we defer action on resolution PC0625, green energy ventures special exception application, until the next regularly schedu regularly scheduled meeting. Okay, motion's been made and seconded. Is that you, Brett? Second. Okay, thank you. Okay, motion to defer, Mr. Dorta. Mr. Mr. Palota. Hi, Mr. Kendrick. Hi, Mr. Matet. Miss Flattley. Hi, Mr. Myers. Hi, Mr. Nicely. Hi. And Chair Williams. Hi. Right. Motion to defer. Thank you. All right. Next uh on the agenda is new business. Uh this is resolution PC-07-25 green energy ventures HCO exception request that Mr. Chairman that was also um addressed in in my presentation. It's getting late. Yeah, I got you. All right. No, no, sir. A public hearing is not required on this. The zoning ordinance gives the planning commission the um ability to approve or deny, but you deferred. So, all right. Uh next we have uh staff reports. So, April 2025 director's report uh which is attached.

Did you I'm sorry, Mr. Chairman. you're all going to take action on that the entrance request or defer that. Okay. Which is just the I think when Angela did it, she gave a presentation on the entire thing. We'll need more to take action on that. Make a motion that we defer action on PC0725. Motion remain seconded. All right. Thank you. Uh, Mr. Pelota, hi Mr. Kendrick. Hi, Mr. Dorta. Miss Slattley. Hi, Mr. Meyers. Hi, Mr. Nicely. Hi, Mr. Kendrick. Oh, I'm sorry. You already have voted. Mr. Matet, hi. And Chair Williams. I motion carries. All right. All right. Okay. Staff report whenever you're ready. Ma'am, I will keep it very brief. Um, just addressing the staff report that's in the packet for the month of March and then we already talked about this, but we are going to have a public hearing next month for the height requirement. So, we'll bring back some language. If y'all have any advice, any recommendations how you might want to deal with this, um, please let me know. Thank you. Okay. Um, next is the committee's report. Uh, I think the only thing that I wanted to make mention of uh

to um to my board members um uh just be there's no rules against social social media. uh you speaking in or about or what have you is your your right. Uh but just be mindful um that your comments are read. Uh and so I just want to I just want to say to each just be cautious. Be cautious. That's that's all I'm going to say about that. Right. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, sure. Yeah, sure. Yeah. So, we've had um we've had quite a few meetings and um it it's looking like um we might be able to address most of the concerns on both sides with just a change to the subdivision ordinance, maybe not have to reszone or change the densities. Um one idea that was proposed was to remove the major subdivisions from A1 and A2. So, you know, if you wanted to do one there, you'd have to proper it and go down to R1 or R2, R3. Um, but, um, I encourage you guys if you guys have any thoughts on it to call me or email me and and I'll make sure, you know, we I get the answers to you at the at the meetings, but we've been meeting once a week. We didn't meet last week, but we've made a lot of good progress. Thanks, Sean. Thank you. Okay. Um, that's it. advertised. Yeah. Are they? Okay. Okay. They are advertised. All right. Uh let's see other future business. None. Making sure. All right. And I think this is everyone's favorite part. Uh can I get a motion to adjurnn?

Motion's been made and seconded. Meeting is journed.