Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Monday, April 28, 2025
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About this meeting

Government Body
Planning Commission
Meeting Type
Planning Commission
Location
Kent, WA
Meeting Date
April 28, 2025

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93 sections (from 105 segments)

5:26 – 5:370

Good evening. I would like to welcome everybody to tonight's meeting. It is 04/28/2025, and the time is now six zero

5:51 – 6:041

here. Justice phelps? Here. Sender perrera reynolds is excused for the record remote attendance for board members dean dippar and justice phelps has been approved for this meeting.

6:050

Thank you. Are there any added items or changes to the agenda from staff?

6:11 – 6:312

No changes. I did want to note for the record that our board member Odendon Oyefesto does want to be called by his other name, Todd, going forward. So, that is reflected in the new minutes, but just for those that weren't in the room for that discussion, Dot is Todd. Are one and the same.

6:323

Thank you, Kristen. Appreciate it.

6:360

Minutes from the previous meeting have been presented to the Board. I call for a motion to approve the minutes of 04/14/2025 as presented.

6:484

This is Ali Shasti, I move to approve the minute as present.

6:531

Mrs. Benried I second.

6:55 – 7:150

Is there any discussion? Hearing none, we will move to a vote. All those in favor the motion on the floor is to approve the minutes as presented. All those in favor say aye. Those opposed say nay.

7:17 – 7:440

Vote is approved six to zero. Tonight, we are holding a land use and planning board meeting in which the staff will give an update on Recode Kent and a brief presentation on the first quarter twenty twenty five economic and community development numbers. See, if there are no objections from the board members at this time, we are ready to update the Recode Kent project. Staff, you may begin.

7:45 – 8:122

Thank you all. It's great to be here tonight. We are inching towards a draft code update. We just had a meeting this morning and most of the major decisions for the first round of our phase one code update are done, which is great. So I have a couple items that I'm here to talk with you all about today, and then, we'll be moving forward with additional briefings in May, and then the official briefing and the hearing will be in May and June.

8:12 – 8:502

So just a quick reminder on where we're at. So project goals for this part, we really are focusing on regulatory compliance. So we wanna make sure that we're meeting those deadlines that are June 2025. Otherwise, a state law for them, a lot of them will be preempted by ordinances that commerce has written as model ordinances that really don't take into account some of the conversations we've had and the things that we're doing in Kent. There are a couple areas where we're on hold or we've decided to put pause on it either because the state legislature has updates or changes and we just said, like, oh, we may wanna adjust this or look at it.

8:50 – 9:202

None of this will put us out of compliance. We're just originally, we were saying, I think these make sense to throw in at the same time, and we've decided we're gonna pause. Those ones are design review requirements. We're gonna do a light touch on the requirements for what do we do when these new middle housing types happen in our single family zones, but we're not gonna do an extensive overhaul of that. The fifty two ninety requirements, we are in compliance right now, but there's some additional rounding out efforts and clarifications that we can do.

9:20 – 9:492

Again, not not critical to be in compliance with state law, just an opportunity to further refine. We'll pick that up again after this June deadline. And then the co living housing, if you recall, co living is when there's a shared communal space for bathrooms, kitchens, living room type facilities, but then a private locked personal space for sleeping. That bill isn't due until the December for compliance, and so we said, for the time being, we're gonna pause. We're not gonna add it in.

9:49 – 10:252

We think we have we're really close, but just for the sake of getting it through all of the different agency reviews and everyone else's fingerprints on it, we're gonna wait and and do that as part of our phase two. Meanwhile, the twenty twenty five state legislative session ended on Sunday, which was yesterday. It included at least a dozen bills as they relate to land use planning. There's actually more as they relate to programs for ways that we can use real estate excise tax, ways to do different financing mechanisms. There's there's a lot here.

10:26 – 10:582

Most of these bills, we have at least a little bit of time to implement, a little bit beaten at least three months. Some of them, we have eighteen months to twenty four months to implement. So you will not see any of these new bills reflected in the draft ordinance that comes before you in June. We, one, need to wait to see and make sure that the governor signs them and that he doesn't do any vetoes of sections. And then, two, we wanna take our time and make sure that we're understanding what we're doing and not rush to get them into, an ordinance when we don't have to meet a deadline right now.

11:00 – 11:292

So you can see where we're at in this process. Moving quite along, again, we do have that deadline of June for adoption. I'm gonna talk really briefly about two areas where we would like your input. So background information, you all have heard this several times now. We are consolidating zones in order to make it so that when there's very minor nuances between zones, it's just easier to have them more consistently regulated.

11:29 – 12:152

And the next instance I'm gonna show you is a good example of this. I wanna highlight we have some naming options or we've settled on our naming changes, and these are gonna tie into the comprehensive plan. So this is my fun coming soon disclosure of our comp plan used the old naming conventions. In fall, we'll be coming back when we do our annual docket process with updating that table with our new namings because right now it has, you remember we did the residential one through four for future land uses, and then we're doing neighborhood residentials for these, implementing zones instead of having, our, sorry, instead of having s r six, s r eight, we're now condensing them into neighborhood residential. So I just a reminder about that.

12:15 – 12:582

Another thing is we did an assessment of s r 4.5 through our MRD or duplex zone. These are all going to be condensed into one zone, and we went through the use tables where it says what is permitted or not, and there's two items in MRD that aren't the same as these other s r 4.5 through s r eight. So we're gonna talk about those tonight, make sure that our strategy for what we do with that makes sense. And then same with m r t 12 through m r t 16 and m r g, there's one use, it's wireless facilities, that we treat slightly differently for m r g compared to m r So for condensing them down, we need to make a decision on that one. So we have staff recommendations for those.

12:58 – 13:372

I wanted just to set the stage and remind us. I think it also demonstrates why the zoning consolidation is good. Right now, we have four rows essentially saying the same thing for what we're gonna condense down. There's very few differences. So our first recommendation. So the N R 2 zone, again, it's made up of S R 4.5, S R 6, S R 8, and M R D. This m r d only has 309 parcels. You can see when we look at S R 4 And A Half and S r six, we're almost at 25,000 parcels there. That doesn't mean those are all individual lots. Sometimes there's multiple parcels, but it's one owner.

13:38 – 14:182

But you can see significant difference between 309 parcels in the MRD. The MRD is a little bit more permissive than the Ozar zones. It currently allows mobile home parks as a special use. It goes through a pretty extensive process to allow it. I did a quick scan flyover of the city, and I'm not aware of any special use mobile home parks in MRD right now. So our recommendation is that we no longer allow those 309 parcels of MRD once we consolidate. The N R 2 zone would not allow the mobile home parks. So that's the first. So we wanna remove those MRD uses that are different than the SR uses. So the first one is the mobile home parks.

14:18 – 14:472

The second one is group homes class two. So in our land use code, we have different definitions for group homes. Group homes normally level one or class one would be like an adult family home. It would be group homes for potentially youth that need additional assistance or youth that may be part of a foster care system and living in a group facility. They are nonviolent, noncriminal facilities.

14:47 – 15:162

Most of the adult family homes, most of the group homes you see are that level one. There's a second level two and a level three that are more extensive. State law requires that we allow them, but we get to pick where we want to place them. The class two is really for juveniles or or sex offenders who are they need housing somewhere, and so the state says we have to allow it somewhere, but cities get to pick. And so class two is currently allowed in the MRD zone.

15:16 – 16:042

Class three, which is the sex offenders, is not allowed in the MRD zone. So we're proposing basically that any class two facility is not allowed in this new n r t n r two zone. And what that would mean is if there's existing facilities, they'd be allowed to stay as existing nonconforming, but no new facilities would be allowed in that in that new middle housing zone. They'd still be allowed in the more intense uses of multifamily zones, but I just wanted to check to us, this was lessening impacts to the lower density middle housing neighborhoods, but wanted to confirm you all felt that that was an appropriate change. Again, because there's so few changes, we felt okay moving forward but we wanted your thumbs up, down feedback on it.

16:05 – 16:170

So, question, you're not allowing mobile home parks in these new sections. Is there I'm assuming there are some other other zonings where you will allow mobile home park?

16:172

Yes. So this is not an outright ban. We have a mobile home park zone. We also have we allow it in several other more intense zones.

16:24 – 16:402

So it's not an outright ban. It's just saying for this mrd zone, we wouldn't allow future expansions. Any I'm looking online, seeing if there's any input from our online folks.

16:424

Yeah. Just want to say I'm in agreement with those changes. Yeah. Thumbs up.

16:47 – 17:192

Okay. Thank you. I guess I could say anyone opposed? Okay. Great. The second part of feedback is for that n r three zone. So that's our multifamily townhouse and low density multifamily zone. Currently, we regulate this differently. So in the MRT, which are our townhouse zones, we have less than 200 parcels of those. We allow wireless facilities with a minor conditional use permit.

17:19 – 17:452

I was forgetting what the m stood for. With a minor conditional use permit and only on property that's owned or leased by the city or another government entity. So what that means is it's allowed but in a limited instance. And wireless telecommunication facilities, that can be towers, and it can also be attachments to buildings. We've been working with legal, that's actually an outdated code that is no longer in compliance with federal regulations.

17:45 – 18:272

There's been some substantial updates where they say we need to require certain facilities in all locations. And so we are recommending that we instead of doing the back and forth, we just allow outright, which is what the new federal requirement is, allow outright this the wireless facilities in the n three zone. The other way that it's regulated in the low density multifamily, that's the MRG, is we allow them through an administrative approval. So, essentially, we would just be matching what the MRG zone says and complying. We're kinda killing two birds in one stone with this one, which is allowing it in compliance with what the federal regulations say.

18:27 – 18:432

So at this time, if someone were to come in, technically, we have some liability if we weren't to make this change, They could say but new federal findings say you have to allow this anyway. We're basically just moving to allow it as as it's already required.

18:440

So when you say wireless telecommunication facilities are these basically cell towers?

18:50 – 19:252

They could be cell towers. I'm gonna look at data. Do you remember the exact definition off your head? Okay. Could be cell towers. It could also be a lot of times what we're seeing now are attachments to buildings where it's a a wireless telecommunication facility has multiple different types. So it could be a cell tower. There's still height and height standards that it has to comply with, or it could just be an attachment to a building with the new five g and some of the more advanced telecommunications. Ben probably knows more about these than I do. Okay.

19:26 – 19:452

They they are hoping to do instead of having really big tall towers with kind of a a big umbrella, they're hoping to do them on buildings to do more of a signal boost within a building or within an arena Right. Or within a downtown area that's populated. So it's more of a a hyper local boost than the tall facilities do.

19:451

But antennas in general? Right. It could yes. Yes.

19:52 – 20:284

Remembering from the city from a few years ago, I believe cell towers are the major towers and those are these are small component that you can attach to power pole or houses or on the roof. It doesn't include the cell towers itself. Those are major communication system and require a different type of permit. This is I think, if I recall correctly.

20:28 – 21:002

Yeah. I'll have to get back to you on that. I'm sorry. I had this clear in my head and I just forgot it. So either way, I know that our city attorneys have advised us that we need to update it. So that is really the we're not gonna do a full wireless code update right now. That's beyond the scope. But because we're merging these zones, we said it makes sense to change this from an m to outright permitted. Alright. Next topic is STEP housing.

21:01 – 21:352

STEP housing is an acronym that the state came up with. It stands for emergency shelters, transitional housing, emergency housing, and permanent supportive housing. So step housing is a specific type of affordable housing, could require leases, could just be something that someone shows up and there's no lease or long term obligation or commitment. A few things that I wanna just clarify, step housing is not group homes or adult family homes. It's not sober living facilities or Oxford houses.

21:35 – 22:132

Doesn't include behavioral health facilities. When we talked last year about the different types of mental health treatment facilities, does not include those. And it also doesn't include any sort of senior housing assisted living type facilities. So those are different than step housing. So they're regulated differently as well. So today when we're talking about step housing, I want us to focus in on these four types. They're on your slides above. So don't think of kind of the typical group home or adult family home situation. Think specifically about these types of facilities. It also doesn't include disaster relief or recovery shelters.

22:13 – 22:442

So when you think of, like, there's an extreme weather or there's been a huge earthquake, we need to set up shelter quickly, that's not part of step housing. That's a separate part of of planning because it really those truly are very temporary in nature for a very specific purpose. So I'll go through the definitions just so you have them kind of in your in your brains of what it means. Emergency shelter means a facility that provides a temporary shelter. And in this case, we're not saying necessarily a tent.

22:44 – 23:092

We're talking about duration. So it's a temporary duration of sheltering someone for individuals or families who are currently homeless. Emergency shelters cannot require occupants to enter into a lease or any sort of occupancy agreement. So there's very much a you come for the night. There's no guarantee of housing for ninety days or a hundred and twenty days.

23:09 – 23:532

So typical, like, landlord tenant provisions do not apply to emergency shelters. And they also can include emergency shelters can also include day uses. So there's facilities for we have one in Kent that's for women and children to come for the day either as a warming facility or for to have resources and other supportive services. So they don't have to necessarily provide overnight accommodations, but they can. So transitional housing, that is it's really like the next step of someone after after becoming unsheltered and and getting into their emergency shelter or an emergency housing situation.

23:54 – 24:452

Transitional housing is the step between being unsheltered and having a a short term place to being more in a a long term long lease agreement. And so transitional housing typically provides housing services for about two years, and it also frequently has supportive services with it. So a lot of times there will be on-site case managers, there may be daycare, there may be career coaching, or some sort of drug recovery program. So there's a lot of other services that will be located there to help a person as they're transitioning from being unsheltered into a more permanent stable living situation. Other things like parenting classes and budgeting, things like all all sorts of services to help someone be successful as they get into an actual full time lease of an apartment either on their own or through another program.

24:46 – 25:252

So, really, this is if you think of transitional housing, think of it as a movement of an unsheltered person or family as they're transitioning into being fully independent on their own. Emergency housing is temporary indoor accommodation. So difference between emergency and shelter housing, emergency housing is completely indoors, and it's for individuals or families at that are homeless or at imminent risk of being homeless. The the intent is to provide all things inside of basic health, food, clothing, and personal hygiene needs for those individuals. And then the last one is permanent supportive housing.

25:25 – 25:582

So permanent supportive housing is subsidized leased housing with no length of stay limit. So as transitional housing was two years, typically, permanent supportive housing could go on indefinitely if they qualify for the income. So this could be where someone has a year lease that gets re renewed every every year, and they could be there for five, ten, fifteen years if they qualify. It also typically has services with it. So those same services that I mentioned with transitional housing, you'll find a suite of those services and permanent supportive housing.

25:58 – 27:042

And a lot of times, also are low or no barrier housing where they are more likely to accept individuals than what a typical apartment may. So background reference checks, all all of those things, it's it's a little bit of a different process, hoping to provide some permanent stability for that person again as they're on that step path towards renting from the either the section eight or housing authority or other just private market rentals. So these the way those state lists them are a little bit out of order. I would say if we were to list them, it's emergency shelters, emergency housing, transitional housing, and permanent supportive housing, if we're talking about the spectrum of the most the closest to unsheltered populations to closest to typical rental agreement. So we there was a significant state law that happened in 2023 called h b twelve twenty.

27:04 – 27:302

You all probably have heard of twelve twenty several times because that was all of the housing need allocation by levels of affordability. So that took up the spotlight of saying, you can't you you don't just have to make sure you have land capacity. You also have to make sure that it's affordable for what your housing needs are as a city. So that's what we've been talking about. But twelve twenty was packed with a a lot of different things in it, and so we're coming back to address this now.

27:30 – 28:232

And and twelve twenty specifically talks about these step housing types and how cities can and cannot regulate them going forward. So a couple neat key points, emergency housing and emergency shelters, so the first two out of those four on the continuum, those must be allowed in all zones where hotels are allowed in the city. I'm gonna show you a table to to talk about that going forward. Another finding is so for those emergency and emergency housing structures, we're allowed to pace place restrictions as they relate to spacing, occupancy, and intensity, but only if we find a connection and a direct link to how it affects health and public safety. So we couldn't arbitrarily say, you know, everyone who enters this facility must wear a purple hat because there's no good health or or safety reason for that.

28:24 – 29:212

We could say something to the effect of this needs to be spaced from other facilities because the impacts to the neighborhoods and the emergency response system cannot accommodate an overconcentration area, and we want to ensure that our dispersed systems are able to to respond appropriately. So that's kind of the difference of an arbitrary requirement versus something that we can clearly tie to health and safety. We have right now footnotes thirty one and thirty five that have a lot of requirements that we haven't clearly or previously tied to public health and safety, so we'll get into some of the recommended changes there. And then the other two on that that spectrum of moving towards full shelter in an independent living situation, For permanent supportive housing and transitional housing, the state views these as any other housing type. So we are not allowed by state law to treat them any differently than any other residential housing type.

29:21 – 29:542

So if it's a transitional housing unit that's in a low density residential neighborhood next to a single family home, the same requirements have to apply. We can't regulate them more stringently. We also have to allow these housing units in all zones where housing and hotels are allowed. Currently, we treat permanent supportive housing the same as any other multifamily, so there's no distinction in our code, which means we're in compliance. The transitional housing, we do have some variants, and so I'll talk a little bit more about what we what we can do to address that.

29:56 – 30:242

So this is our fun use table. I cut out a million different things like dog kennels and veterinarian clinics and all the things that don't relate to housing or this this part of the step code update just so that you didn't have to scroll through, tons of pages of of a use table. But the top two are kind of our guiding principles. Right? So hotels and motels, we we allow them in these zones.

30:25 – 31:052

And so our emergency housing facilities and shelters have to also allow them in those zones. You'll notice that we do allow them in the same zones where we allow hotels. We have different footnote restrictions, so we have to address that of are these really addressing health and safety needs. Right now, we also allow them in additional zones, and we're not required by state law to do that. So one of our recommendations is if we have enough capacity, which we've we've done a study and figured out that we do, if we have enough capacity in the downtown transit communities, Midway area, commercial manufacturing, general commercial, and I 1 zones.

31:06 – 31:322

Let's limit the impacts near our other residential areas. So we're actually proposing we'll update some of the footnote requirements and remove the use from those specific areas. The second part of this is transitional housing. So remember I said transitional housing must be allowed where hotels and or housing is located. So both of those items, that should be an or, not an and.

31:33 – 32:152

So it's allowed in several areas already, but I added in these TLPs to show where it is not currently allowed that we will need to add it. And then also where we currently require conditional use permit, we're not allowed to regulate it differently than other housing types. And so since we allow other housing types outright, these will also have to be allowed outright. So this is kind of a lot to to jump in and digest. I wanna make the the it's basically two points. The first is, are are you all okay with removing the emergency housing facilities and emergency shelters where we are not required by state law to allow them?

32:231

Are there currently any facilities in those areas?

32:27 – 32:502

There's one facility. It would be allowed to continue to operate. Where it would face challenges is if it wanted to do substantial expansions outside of it would be viewed as if it was we call it a existing nonconforming use. So it's allowed. It's vested. It's allowed to operate. They can do repairs to their buildings. They just can't expand outside of the footprint that they already have.

32:501

Well, you're not kicking them out. But we're not kicking them out. I promise. Yeah, I have no opposition then.

33:07 – 33:422

Okay. We'll move on to our second point. If any any inspiration strikes, let me know. This one, I feel like it's a little silly asking you all because it really is a requirement by the state, so we don't have any options. It's more of letting you know this will be a change that will be made. I can ask your opinion on it, but, honestly, it doesn't matter. I think at the end of the day, commerce is gonna tell us we have to do it. So I wanna save you heartburn of debating something that you really don't have. I don't I don't wanna be disingenuous and say you have a say in it at this point. It's more of letting you know about it.

33:43 – 34:092

Sorry about that. Okay. So our proposed code code changes. We currently have a limitation that only allows our emergency shelters and emergency housing to co locate if they're with a religious institution. There's other language that says we should incentivize with the religious institutions, but we can't limit based on, excuse me, the location of a religious institution.

34:09 – 35:012

So this would just be saying we would strike the requirement for them to co locate together, and that flies in in the fair housing laws and requirements. The other thing is we currently require a ninety day on, ninety day off operating procedure so that emergency housing and emergency shelters can operate for ninety days, but then they need to stop and cease operations for another ninety days. When this was put into effect, Kent was one of the early adopters of allowing these, and the idea was, especially for when we talk about extreme weather, they were all kind of lumped together, and and the idea was, like, we and Kent don't wanna be the only ones who have these facilities. We think the rest of the South King County and broader King County region should also have these facilities. Over time, it's really changed how how facilities operate.

35:01 – 35:382

So it's really different if you're saying we're gonna do it for extreme heat. Normally, that's in a defined period that would be within ninety days, you could take it on for the season. But over time, the uses and how they operate have changed, and a lot of the funding models have changed so that having this ninety day on ninety day ninety days on, ninety day off may be something that would be too limiting where we could say it theoretically as aloud, but then there could be people that say, well, but I really can't operate in that manner. That's not the way my funding works. It doesn't make sense to me to have five sites throughout the county in order to meet these requirements.

35:38 – 36:362

So we're we're studying and assessing whether we have to remove that requirement, whether we're able to retain it, looking in into that right now. And then right now, we have a 1,000 foot spacing requirement between facilities and from schools, And Commerce said the maximum allowed is this community protection zone of 880 feet, so updating that distance. There's several other items that are in those footnote thirty one and thirty five that we'll be doing some technical cleanups to, but these were the big ones that I wanted to make sure you were aware of. The next one for the proposed code change is removing the permanent supportive housing from the group homes definition. So I told you we regulate our permanent supportive housing the same as multifamily, but then we have this use table that says permanent supportive housing in single family is considered a group home.

36:36 – 37:072

And those are very different uses. As as we just discussed, a group home is not part of step housing, and so we just want to remove that so that there's not confusion about about how to permit it if permanent supportive housing is is proposed. The third one is updating our transitional housing. So we already talked about the where it's allowed. We also have some occupancy limits saying if it's 20 or more, it requires a conditional use permit.

37:07 – 37:502

And so we need to see if we can it go back, do our homework, see where that number came from, if it is tied to any sort of public health safety reasons, if we could we find ways to justify it. If not, we'll remove that trigger because it won't be allowed. And then last but not least, aligning with the RCWs for these definitions. So the state now has clear definitions than what they did when our code was adopted. So matching up our terminology will be helpful, especially as funders use try to figure out, you know, they're funded under a certain type of housing, how does this fit into the state and the city's programmatic frameworks for their own licensing purposes and for our own zoning purposes.

37:51 – 38:152

And then we also wanna call out that health, food, clothing, and personal hygiene needs must be met within the within that same building or on that same site if it's a shelter. So sometimes there will be facilities that say, like, well, have provided a bed, but it's like, okay. But people also need to be able to use the bathroom and have proper hygiene. They need to be able to have showers. They need to be able to have food.

38:15 – 38:402

We don't want them using illegal fire sources and putting everyone else at risk. We need to make sure that we have appropriate channels and and facilities for everyone's safety and so adding that in as well. So those are our updates for the night. We are marching towards an actual real life ordinance for you all. I will say a disclaimer.

38:40 – 39:152

It's very large mostly because those use tables have 50 other uses, and we're only changing a couple. But we have to go through and per state law have to include all of the tables and then just include the strike through and underline of that one use. We're gonna go on May 6 to city council to give them one more update, put their allow them to put final fingerprints and finishing touches on it. We're still meeting with developers and and other other internal work groups and other experts in this. May 12, we'll have a meeting, kind of a final wrap up before the ordinances before you.

39:15 – 39:322

And then May 27 will be a special meeting. The night before is our typical meeting. That is Memorial Day, and so city campus is closed. I'm not gonna make you all come in on a three day weekend. We will have a special meeting that Tuesday, and that will be our official briefing before we have our hearing.

39:32 – 40:162

So hearing will be on June 9, and that will be a hearing before, you know, we will you all will be able to receive public comment from the public, and then we'll be asked to vote to make a recommendation to counsel. And counsel will make their final vote and then move it on to consent on June 17, because that's their last meeting of June, and we have to meet the June 30 deadline. So we are on a tight schedule. Most of what will be in the draft ordinance, you've at least seen once, if not multiple times. So in the next coming weeks, I promise I will highlight at May 12, there's topics that we hadn't addressed before so that you have a little bit more time if there's anything else popping out that's new for us.

40:182

And then with that, that's the end of my presentation. I'm happy to answer any questions or receive any other comments or feedback.

40:31 – 40:450

Thank you, staff. If there are no objections from the board at this time, we are ready for a presentation on the first quarter twenty twenty five economic and community development numbers. Staff, you may begin.

40:46 – 41:262

Thank you. Special shout out to Deja. She put the report together this time for you all. It's our typical standard report. I do have some questions for you all about do you find it useful? Is there information that you feel is missing? I it's trying to kind of capture. It's something I I we started when I started here at the city to try to let you know what else is going around our our department for conversations that are happening. So open to feedback. I also will say pulling the the conditional use permit, like, the actual line by line permit information does take us several hours to to pull and get into format.

41:26 – 42:012

So if you don't find that site by site analysis very useful, we can present it in a different way of we have a more a less pretty printout that's really easy for me to click and print out for you all. So if like, you're I really don't look through these very explicitly, and I don't need them formatted pretty, the normally, the presentation or the printout has most of the information that we have. We're just going through and verifying it and and filling in some gaps every once in a while. So I'd say we'd love to hear your input. Is this something that you would like us to continue as a whole?

42:01 – 42:302

How valuable is that permit by permit information of what came in over the last quarter? And would you be amenable to a more automated, less pretty formatted version of it? So opening it for conversation. And then if you have any questions specifically about any of the the notes in this quarter's report, I'm happy to answer. And you won't hurt my feelings if you say you actually don't really look at it.

42:310

Asking If the question, am amenable to a less pretty format. Okay.

42:39 – 42:501

It was included with your email of the script and the PowerPoint presentations. I do have one more hard copy because Dion is remote and I accidentally printed it. Ben, if you want to see it.

42:564

I haven't looked at it, but I'd like to take a look before Okay. I

43:022

That's great.

43:07 – 43:193

I do appreciate them and I do look at them just because I'm still fairly new and I need as much context as I can get, so I do appreciate it. But I'd be fine with a less detailed, less fancy looking one.

43:19 – 43:322

That's fine. Okay. And to our online group, any other feedback? Okay. Dionne?

43:335

I was just I do read them, but I would also be fine with having a less pretty version, especially if it saves some work on your end.

43:422

Alright. This was not meant to throw Deja under the bus. I was just thinking about with all of our requirements. I was like, you know Oh,

43:485

no. I some of

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the more time consuming parts a little bit less of a touch and give you the nice

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They're pretty reports are nice. Nothing nothing wrong with them. Of course, it wasn't a criticism. Just If it is more efficient for you to just be able to print something out, then that works fine for me as well.

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Okay. Thank you. With that, we are good. If anyone has any specific questions about what's in the report, let me know. Otherwise, I'll turn it to our chair.

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You have been reappointed to the housing interjurisdictional team? Congratulations.

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Thank you. Hijt is a group that is the cities in King County. It's staff planners from this for the King County region that advise to the King County affordable housing committee and our growth management planning council. So we had basically before anything goes before the affordable housing committee or any of the CPP amendments, the countywide planning policy amendments coming up go, we as staff do a lot of vetting. That's where a lot of the negotiation comes in in that room and at that table. So we're excited to have a seat representing Kent and the South King County Region

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as well. Thank you. So

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my predecessor, HB, did serve on it. And then when they left, there was a little bit of a gap. It got reassigned to another city in that interim, and then that person left. And so when I started, I was attending as, like, a vacancy of a vacancy position, and so now it's official. So I I was I've been attending for the last two and a half years, but they do have an official reappointment process, and it came up. So it was officially time that I could now I get to call myself a member instead of an alternate. Still talked a lot in those meetings. There's no difference. So All right. Well, with that, I'll turn it back to you, Chair.

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Okay. All right. Is there any further business to bring before the board? No. Since there is no further business, this meeting is adjourned.

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