Board of Selectmen - Regular Meeting

and justice for all.

We have a last minute conflict. Tom says this is . Yes. Yeah. Awesome. But we'll go ahead and jump in. We have a small public group today, but just a small one. Well, I'm here officially. That's true. i plan to reiterate some of the things that i said at the last meeting just because there were so many people here and there was a lot going on that meeting but at least this will go into two minutes in the recording but um i want to say again that we're going to kind of formalize the public comment section section of the meeting a little bit more going forward asking folks to ask to be recognized speak at the podium bigger contact information at the podium or with us. If there is a follow-up, we can do that. We're trying to get public comments and not discussion to keep the meeting moving. But we do want to address questions that come up, so we either do that with the contact information that's shared, or we can also do it at the next meeting at the beginning. I want to reiterate that a lot of times the stuff that we're discussing, well, not a lot of times, if it's new business, this is the first time the board has discussed anything. We do prepare for the meetings, so there are materials we read ahead of time, we do speak with department heads ahead of time, but we have not discussed where anyone else stands on it initially before we make a vote other than what happens here in the public meetings. I just want to make sure folks are aware of that and they see kind of how we're communicating or having those conversations. And then I did have one follow-up from a couple meetings ago that I wanted to make sure was clarified in the meeting minutes. um we had a public comment that was saying that the budget had raised a million had gone up a million dollars in the last few years and i want to clarify that that is not the case um we do have an attachment to the minutes of that meeting it's gone up a million dollars in 10 years um i know folks have concerns about their taxes and the rates and um the budgets and all of that but i just want to make sure that that was clarified that was not over that it was over 10 years, not just a few years, but a year by year comparison in the minutes from the meeting two meetings ago, if anyone would like to reference that. I do think that that came out of maybe folks looking at and comparing apples and oranges rather than apples and apples and looking at budgets versus tax appropriations with the tax appropriation being the budget minus revenues and looking at some of those numbers and thinking they were looking at the same thing. So if anybody has questions or wants clarity, please feel free to reach out. We are happy to answer those specific questions and make sure that folks are operating.

Just for clarity, that was posted with the minutes from Monday. Thank you.

Anything?

Sounds great.

Great. So we'll go to public comment.

Nothing to write my name on.

It will work on that. Okay. I just wanted to, I sent a letter or an email to Chief Cain and to the Slack board members last week and I wanted to read that publicly. And it says, thank you Chief Cain and Slack board members for giving our community the opportunity to give their thoughts on the potential of Kensington Police entered 287 G agreement with us. Certainly there was a resounding opposition to our community getting involved in federal integration enforcement. What I found interesting was who spoke at this meeting and were opposed. School board members like myself, members of the fire department, people who serve on various volunteer committees in town, longtime residents, parents, and select board members. These are people who have regular dealings with our police department. I'm concerned about our entry into this agreement causing a long-term divide between our community and our police department. We can't afford that. Knowing that 190 towns and cities in New Hampshire have already stated they will not enter 287 agreements. And that's 109 towns and cities out of 221 towns and 13 cities. I think it's very clear that not just the residents of Kensington are against our chief entry in these agreements, but almost the entire state, the entire state is also. We need our police focused on local policing, period. I support you and your team and always look forward for any police funding requests. You and your team do a terrific job and I thank all of you. My hope is it stays that way.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right. So move into the agenda then. Start over this way. Jeff, any updates for us?

Sure. So May's been kind of busy for the fire department. On May 4th, we had three calls back and back. We sent an engine mutilator to Exeter. They had a house fire. And at the same time, we got a call for a brush fire, grass fire at Stumpfield Road. So we had a call in Southampton to help us with that. Luckily, it was a small grass fire. We were able to maintain it, take care of it. And then right as we were finishing that up, we got a call for a missing child on Hemsbury Road. Luckily, everybody was accounted for. So in Southampton, helped us out with that also. On May 16th, we sent an engine mutilated to East Kingston. They had a head-on accident right at the golf course of the town line. So we assisted them with that, with hand bar and equipment. And we did replace the throttle cable on engine three after the pump testing. Both trucks passed the pump testing, but the throttle was kind of out of sync, so we had to take it to a new place. chance is that well associated with just the point yes it's just the pump yeah it's it looks like a real problem but it's actually a compartment yeah so it's kind of the old style is a cable really long cable and it's a bad thing but now they've switched over to um this wire so we have to replace that because it was intermittent it would work and then sometimes we'd go into the pump and so i just said replace it we don't need that filling and fire so And then we did some, we had a water leak on the pump on engine two, which got fixed today. So that's it for fire. EOC, just a reminder that the seabed drill was June 3rd from 8 a.m. until probably noon of one, usually. So is that what I said? Yes, that is what I said.

Yep. And I think Tom and I said either one of us could be there. So we all figure out a way to get that.

Great. That's what we have. Thanks, Tom.

How are you doing in terms of volunteer support? So you listed off a decent amount of things now. How has that been in terms of volunteer resource numbers?

So there is not a lot of volunteers knocking on the door anymore. A lot of people have full-time job offers, and that's the last thing they want to do is volunteer with the emergency call and with their family and everything. I have the same 24 people that I've had forever. You know, it's kind of split older guys and younger guys and younger women. So, you know, my older guys are aging out faster than I want them to, but, you know, I get it. They did their time. So hopefully we'll get some more.

Yeah, I mean, this is an issue. It's a nationwide issue. It's not just a Kensington issue.

It's a nationwide for volunteer and call departments.

Has that impacted your ability to do your role and the functions role to date, or has it been?

No, not really. Sometimes, like last week, I had to jump on an ambulance to be there. a second license to attend. I guess the state requires two license attendants for the ambulance that they will be transporting. So I had to jump on the ambulance for that to be the second license. But it doesn't happen. And sometimes from not so, one of my members, he's a teacher. So he'll have the summer free. So we'll see a little bit when we're done coming up, which will be good. Yeah, when school starts, we can read them again.

But yeah, so what are your thoughts on this stuff? What do we do or what are tactics to get people interested? Right? I can't say I was hugely interested in being right here right now. Right? So like, how do people get? Yeah, how do we do the grassroots work?

So we, you know, we put it up on our social media page. We tell people, hey, come on down and donate. We're there every Tuesday night at 7. We want to check out the fire department and find out what we do. We're out in our home base, set up a tent, bring out all our trucks and give people tours of all our equipment and stuff and say, hey, you want to join? You know, come on board. You know, Other than that, there's, you know, not a whole lot. You know, you can try for grants to get money to help, you know, look at the publicity out. I've seen it work, and I've seen it not work, you know. So it's just a matter of, you know, the people actually coming. And then, you know, the other thing, it's not just they haven't joined me, but then we've got to send them to training. So that costs money. You know, EMT is not cheap. Fire 1 is not cheap. And it's EMT is like a year, almost a year and a half to get done and certified. So that you're, you know, you're still, Fire 1 is like, let's see, four, six months to get that done. It's a commitment. It's a commitment. Right. Because, you know, everyone is like, oh, I can do this. Well, that's great. But I need you to be certified.

Yes.

You can't go in and burn a building. I'm certified. You can't treat a patient without being licensed a tenant. So it's like, great. You know, I have to build roles for people, but I also have my older guys that are transitioning, you know, away from being the active, and they're filling that role great. So I don't, you know, I don't want to turn anybody away, but I need more certified people. And that's hard to find because, you know, you guys think you said you didn't want to be in that seat, you know, other lives and jobs and stuff like that to do, you know, so we don't close. We're open 365, seven days a week.

So do you envision a time when volunteerism is no longer viable to have a functional fire department and they need to go more towards a, at least some quasi permanent hybrid solution?

Eventually, I do see that if we didn't get more people to come through the door, because right now, I think I'll talk to the candidate. I have five other gentlemen that are there in the retirement age now, and they're looking to not. do as much, they'll drive the firetruck to me or, you know, they're great. I can call them up. One of them goes down the street and anytime I need to take the firetruck anywhere, I'm going to call him up and he's right there. But, you know, he's at that point where he, you know, he doesn't want to go in, you know, anymore. That time's gone for him. Yeah, I think they certainly did some other stuff. So, That's done, so I replace those people and there's not a lot of people come through the door. Then we unfortunately have to make a decision on. You know, do we do the baby steps and go part timers? And then supplement with the on call younger staff. Or do we invite the bulletin to do a full time fire department? I don't think we're at the point where we're being individual time. I think part-time we can look at, you know, like during the day, especially because sometimes, like school vacation, sometimes it's me going. You know, everybody's off with their kids. You know, one of my guys went to Paris, you know, took his kids to Paris. So he's out of the question. You know, and the other ones are figuring it out. So, you know. I think that's kind of, we're kind of on the cusp of that. But the guys I have are great. The girls I have are great. They do it because they love to serve their community. You know, they don't do it for money. They're, you know, they're here to serve the community and help their neighbors. And that's awesome. But eventually, the younger generation come in. That's not the reason. So, you know.

Do you think this is something that we should periodically keep on the docket? This isn't going to go away two points away. We're probably going to get a process period as time goes on. Yes. I know that there's a reserve fund, but I don't think it's for this, correct?

Right. No, that's more for like major, if the fire truck decides it's going to blow up in the middle of the street, that's to fix that. It's to buy. um major equipment that we need like our you know draws a lot of age out we need to replace them yeah that's what that fund is for okay jeff what's what ballpark like the training and certifications for somebody who has nothing right if you were to get somebody who that budget would look like so we just had a guy go through firearm and trying to remember what's the price of that one i want to say it's 1800 to go through the classroom now that was the price tag for the class now the state fire academy is a little cheaper but the problem with the state fire academy is they don't have an instructor pool lately when i went through the day tons of people trying to They're instructed to shrink down. So they're only offering like classes like, we'll do a summer fire one class and a fall fire one class. And that class could be, well, fire one's going to be in Burla. My guys, they're not going to work all day and then drive hours to go to Burla. So, you know, we try to get classes close. The last guy that went through He went through a private company that kind of did the fireman class. And, you know, it cost money to put him through that class. But that class worked with his full-time schedule. So I hate to say to the guys, hey, sorry, you know, you can't go to that class because it's, you know, it's too expensive. Because then they just didn't look at me and go, well, then I'm done. And that might have been a stick-out safety. I'm like, you know, just go figure it out. You know, I had a guy go through A and T, just the next level from E and T basic. It's kind of what I am in advanced E and T. And I think that class was like 12 to 1400 to go through that class. And he's, just finishing, I think he just did the practical, passive practical, and he's going to sit in the ribbon. And that's the national certification. So he's going to sit in front of the test. You know, that doesn't include sending the guy out to get his CDL. That's a little bit of a long game because now the state has decided that, you know, Well, we can't just train you to get your CVL, and I didn't want to take a certified course. So you have to go find a track record school to send those guys through. The Seacoast Fire Chief, which is all the area towns, tried to kind of get instructors. They had them for about a year, and it didn't hold up because they weren't getting the volume of people through. So they don't have their certification. So the fact that I'm not going to send them something. And then obviously, if any of you have been to the registry, you have to have an appointment. You can't just walk in and it's kind of a nightmare. So, you know, we have to do that. Every two years, we have to reserve our EMT, national registry, and our state license so that requires us to get so many hours of training for, like me, it's 48 hours of continuous intubation. And then we have to pay for our license and we get it back. So that's good for teams. Fire, there's a bunch of fire, one or two or three, whatever you want. That doesn't happen in exploration. Obviously, we try to keep up with modern technology and new training techniques and all that good stuff. So, you know, and then on top of all that, the fire guy that certified me, I got an outfit and gear. That outfit is $2,400 for a fire suit, boots, helmet, and Yeah, good to go to Birmingham. Not great.

Nope. Should we revisit this conversation when it's bucket season to see how your sound levels are and what makes sense? Absolutely. Okay. Yeah, I mean, I think one of the issues with your situation is exactly what you described. If no one's available, then I think that's... Yeah. No, I'm going to let it burn, right? No, not obviously, but like, you know.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but it sounds like a double-edged sword, too, because if we have too much that we're paying for some recertifications or folks, but we've got five on the fire department alone that may be aging out, so it's a balancing act at the same time.

Yeah, for every guy that, you know, gets ready to age out or says, hey, I'm done, it would be nice to replace them with someone, but that isn't the case. And, you know, thank God my older guys are they still come, they're still showing up and they still do what they can. Eventually, you know, I got one, he's almost done retiring, he has a full-time job pretty soon. And he's looking at buying little property, like summer camp or something. So, you know, I don't know what his plans, you know, I don't know if I'll see him or if he's going to say, all right, one time, I'm done.

I think when we do that, it'd be interesting to see how some other departments are structured. I'm thinking especially like South Hampton, Hampton Falls that are similarly sized.

So Hampton Falls has staff on during the day and then they go to the on-call at night. And that includes the chief and two firefighters being feed on. Same with like East Kingston. is actually just transitioned over. They were like Monday through Thursday day coverage, and then at night they would be covered by them all. But they think they just transitioned to covering every day with night and day coverage. So they just transitioned that. And Kingston has full-time and part-time people

When you go to a call, do you keep numbers of who went and?

Yeah, so when you do a call, it goes on the run sheet and shows up for pay reasons.

Makes sense. Okay. So you have to have all this data so you'll be able to put it together? Yeah. Okay.

Absolutely. Thank you. You're welcome.

You're here. June 3rd is the EOC drill that we talked about recently. I think you and I both said we could potentially make that work. I don't know if your schedule, figure out which one of us definitely is going to do that.

I'm so sorry. Remind me of the time on the 3rd.

I believe it's 8 to 12 or 1. Yeah, it's usually 8.

What will happen is I'll get Paul saying that the plan maybe there's some kind of emergency, and then on that procedure sheet, I would notify you guys to say, okay, come in. Because if you're here, and especially to the gravy one, if you're here, they just stand around, we'll get you into that, because you're not supposed to be here. Even though otherwise, like most deaths happen, deaths from the drug or female people, they, you know, like that, so they're going to see you dead at all.

So essentially, if I was home, which is about a mile and change, between 8 and 12, and I wait for a phone call, and I get it, I'm sitting down here. Yeah, exactly. Just for convenience, it's not a problem at all for me.

If you can, yeah, I was supposed to be in Austin that day. No, please don't.

I'm home. I'm in the office, and my first call is at 1 p.m., so if I block my morning for office hours, I'll be good. Yeah, thank you. I'll put it down now. Yeah, yeah.

Don't leave your office. Yeah. Not much, uh, let's see.

Um? So the shoulder outside.

You're not in a place from here.

Both schools have permits that are active in the construction. So we'll follow up with that once I get more, once I start doing inspections, I'll let you know how that's going. So I'm taking a septic class, a subsurface class for septic systems on the 21st, which is this Thursday. So that's the secret I've taken on the health side. So that being said, I'm going to take that and try to enhance it with the health department side. And that, if it all goes well, it's a day class and then there's another six hours of on-site class in different locations. As a matter of fact, we're trying to find a system in town that we can use as a site. But I asked somebody today about if I could go there properly, but she didn't find it. So I'm still looking for it. Do you need a septic genome? A septic system that's preferably an old system. However, the Well, they're looking at maybe 20 years old, but I'm looking for anything that. That was maybe needed away because they only something like that. I said I was looking to do so if you hear seeing something I'm looking to check it one day. You can find something else here. Find something because right now. I believe we only have one site, maybe two. uh from a health officer in casing so it's fine lesson there's different uh areas in this case uh it's casing this case there myself two others uh i'm not sure so then i don't want to change myself you know i've got a system that's probably like 30 years you know the 90s if you need something yeah Um, so that I'm probably too much. I don't think that we want to keep up with other than that, you know, products coming and studying, you know, something you probably shouldn't be very present story. Anything obviously there's several homes, new homes that are going out. So that's a good thing. I think I'm not sure. You know, if it's within your background, you know, I get that. But that's that's pretty accurate. I mean, that's not it. The application is actually agreed upon for plumbing and mechanical applications. At some point, I'd like to get that sit down and work out the fees that would be acceptable to the challenge of the board.

Yeah, yeah, that's what you know. Question for you is nature and nurture has a massive chain link fence with horribly visible signs all over it. That's right.

So we've discussed that today. Well, several times. We checked on check with. It's on a plate with this. And his answer was that basically the way the ordinance is written doesn't cover that. So if I get this right, there were no permit fees required and there was no permit required. Interesting. Because it's a construction site and it's just a company doing the job on that site.

Yes.

Only construction. We're going to look into that a little bit further and we're going to sit down with the town planning agent and the zoning board and see if we can It's something workers.

Yeah, that sounds good. I was looking earlier at RSA's 236 colon 88 dash a section 4.1. But there's a digital need to find that. Yeah, essentially it says they can place a temporary sign of private property where they're actually performing work, but it stays out of the town state roadside right away. It means local structural size limits, which I don't think we have here.

So for that, just for the.

That particular site, we do not have anything that works with construction.

Right.

Okay.

And that's what we need to address. Yeah. And place a lot of their funds in place to cover that. If people think dumpsters are out in the air,

They should take a look at that.

Yeah, it's pretty. It's it looks like it's in New York.

It's shocking, obviously, to see that we drove by. Yeah, I love for the neighborhood to looking at a bit further because as to your point, we're quite busy in town. Down seeing a lot of work. I don't think the town would love to have another one of those.

So tomorrow, sorry Wednesday morning, we're good contact. I don't know if anyone driving by is going to be influenced and want to get business by their signs and wow, obviously they're here so I should hire them, right?

I'm not sure if it's positive advertising.

I don't know if we have any skyscrapers.

Nobody said that. Also, I'm just curious. Chain-linked fencing seems a bit much for a drive-by site.

I think with the chain-linked fence, that's a portable fence. Most of these car trackers are that size. They put them up around the drive-by site. Again, there's nothing in the title on it that does not say. I couldn't find it. So no chain reference can be used. The construction site, even a residential construction site.

I'm going to go with that. I'll put up construction points.

They're ugly, but they may have been saved. And there's nothing in, I don't have a mask, so that's an even more stringent way. In New Hampshire, there's nothing even there that says you can't, you cannot, you know, do that. They want to see it. Okay. Well, I imagine the potential theft may, you know, a lot of expensive tools on a site. So maybe they want, you know, they got stock on the site, they're going to tear it, and tear it, and it's like gold today, so. And I know it's a name all over the place, somebody who goes in there to steal something, they've got to be, you know, brazen. Yeah, brazen to do something like that. But, yeah, again, I'll speak with him Wednesday. See what I can do with that. Thank you. And in the meantime, whatever, the next one, whatever the next meeting for. Yeah, they would set that process in the fall. Thanks, you know.

Why don't we skip over to cemetery? Yeah.

So, first of all, excuse me, Jack, could you please. I can't.

It does. It does help with the microphones for people's recordings.

I wanted to put a little something on the record before I do this. Anyway, I wanted to talk about how this morning, for the first time, Mrs. D'Agostino's fourth graders came over to the cemetery with me and we talked about the origins of Memorial Day and why we put flags at the cemetery in the fourth grade. fire reversing cemetery. And Tammy and I talked about it. I'm going to try to do that every year. So that'll be a new part of the fourth grade Memorial Day ceremony. I like that.

I like the fact that you're taking something that is otherwise to a lot of people just a day off and giving a meeting and letting people understand why it exists. I really appreciate that. Thank you.

Yes, the kids were fascinated and they had a great time. And then the trustees will go out on Thursday with Ron from the Legion and fill in all the ones they missed. So excited to see how happy the kids were with that. So the problem I'm coming to you with that the cemetery trustees talked about during this meeting, this has been an ongoing issue that got a little bit more bumped up the priority list because of a complaint from someone in town. So this recycling bin, which is not a recycling bin, It's sitting at the back of the cemetery. It's been there for God only knows how long. And for God only knows how long there has been no official structure or policy for having this thing emptied up until Kathy and I talked a couple years ago, Kathy, I think it was, about what the hell we could do here. And the solution we came up with was to have the landscaping come empty within when they come to do work in the cemetery. I will say since then, they don't empty it unless I reach out personally and ask them if they can please do it. And I would say that maybe 25% of the time it actually gets emptied after doing that. So it's kind of an ongoing issue about having this bit there that people think they can put their trash in. We don't really have a reliable way of emptying it. Before we had the landscaping company doing it, a cemetery trustee who would just volunteer to NDL, but the current trustees don't really have the capacity to be doing that. Other issues that we have, like this bin, it's falling apart, so there's that. And I'm not gonna name the family, but a grave site in the vicinity of the bin, Kathy, there's a picture where I zoom down a little bit, and you can see there are graves right in front of this. The family called me earlier this month and said, they've been asking for years to get this thing moved because it really bothers them to have a trash can sitting next to the grave site here, which I can completely understand the sympathize with. So, cemetery trustees kind of sat down and talked to us through. We've ruled out trying to get regular trash collection back there even if we could get a quote for that because logistically getting any kind of vehicle down that road is just not feasible um so i don't think that's an option um if you look at other scenarios in towns in the area what we see is if it is a smaller town like kensington where they don't have a public works department Um, they don't, they don't do trash collection the center, and the policy is that you need to carry out your own stuff. And that's where the cemetery cemetery trustees have kind of landed this. We, we think that Kensington would be fine with that. I think as long as we make that change, we're to folks that they know that we no longer have any kind of trash collection cemetery, which. Mostly it's old planters and reeds and things like that, but they know to pack that up and bring that out with them when they do their gravestone cleanup. I think people would be okay with that. So our recommendation is that we take that down and we cart it away and then just make sure we can update the bylaws with the trash policy and then publicize that through the various channels that we've got. We've got KCC News and on Facebook and just make sure people know that that's what's going on. we wanted to run it by the board see what you guys think and also to check with you about if we were volunteering to take apart and remove that is there any permitting do we need a deconstruction um so any questions or thoughts on it i mean i have a thought

While you were speaking, I thought, what about carry-in, carry-out? And then you hit it. So for me, I live in Mannington. It's a decently sized cemetery. You never have to intercept the code because you bring it out. You go for a picnic. You go to any public area. It's an expectation that you carry out good things. I would think a cemetery is no different. My only thought was, have we thought about a signage where there's just a simple carry-in, carry-out sign at the beginning, just to reiterate that fact for folks? Now, I think these are probably prefab, not like special signs. There's enough probably that exist. I don't know what that would help.

The debate, the downside of that would only be historical character with the cemetery and want them to be in keeping with that. So I would say maybe I wouldn't worry about signage unless we see it becoming a problem. I would fully expect that there will be occasionally stuff getting chucked in once, which we see already. But as trustees, when we do some of our animal activities in the cemetery, we could just make a quick sweep through once to grab whatever's out there, part of what we do when we're in there. So that didn't worry me too much as a downside. If we found that we felt like there was a need for silence, we could put it up. I do want to. painted wooden signs that we have for the town home for the upper yard and the lower yard. And if we get our act together to put some mock-ups of what that might look like, we'll show them to you guys and see if you're on board. But we do have some crafty folks among our trustees, and we would love to use them.

So, yeah. I've never actually seen this for myself, so it's the first time I'm seeing this. If I were here and I were to pull the potted portion of my plant that's dead now out of the plastic, I'd try to chuck it into the woods. It becomes compost in a sense. Is that an unwritten no-no rule?

What you will find if you look back there, because some folks do do that, is that because it's not actually composted, things don't break down the way that they would if you were properly composting them. So you just end up with down in the middle there behind the gradients. You'll see old root bundles from people's dead months and stuff. Again, if we walk through there once a year and just kind of clear out what's visible or what looks like it's a problem, I don't think it would be a big deal. but we would recommend that people take all of that out. I certainly wouldn't want to encourage anybody to chuck the dead plants in the woods. You also don't necessarily want everything planting itself again out there.

I was just applying the principle of lightness in my madness, right? I take the stuff out of the plastic, I go chuck it into my woods, and then I come and I throw my plastic in my recycling bin.

Well, where the Christmas trees might be out there, but I can tell you But I think, again, that's the downside of moving receptacles. There's the potential that some people might just choose not to bother bringing their trash home and find someone else to put it. But I think, in general, that's going to be very rare.

I think that'll be the rarity. I mean, I've run through the backyard probably five years now, and I've never seen anything less than half full, and it's always junk.

And it's just, yeah. Yeah. And again, and then... It would need to be reconstructed if we were going to try to keep it. I don't want to move it anyway to get it away from the graves, and that we still have the problem of having it on tape. The other question then is timing on this, because the day of the year when that will get overloaded is coming up this weekend. I can get it out of there before then, but I don't So should we just let it hang, let people tie all their stuff on it this weekend, and then I can take it down after Memorial Day and then work on kind of implementing the policies and doing that before?

I mean, everybody has a room and a vehicle to bring their stuff, I guess, so they should have the moment to take anything out.

yeah the only i mean i can definitely get a notice up about it exact for folks i just don't know how it not everybody's looking at facebook for example to be able to see that so that is my only concern is if people go in there and they haven't covered that there's a change and we see that it's gone with folks that would be able to apply time would leaving it be an opportunity for communication but a little temporary sign up on it that says the spin will be removed

Whatever day, that's a great idea. Yeah, we could do that.

And again, if I've been running, I'm going to train where they're going to get out. So if I'm calling a bunch of degrees out with it, it's not really that big a deal to do that. But yeah, we could post like the landing a sign and tag it on there and let people know this is disappearing.

It's a great idea.

Yeah, that sounds good. We'll set that up for this weekend. And then afternoon or at day. Okay.

Sounds good. Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

And the other department has, Matt wasn't able to make it, but we do have the RFP for the road reconstruction to look out.

Deadline is June 11th.

So Kevin said this would go out on the website tomorrow morning?

Yes, it's already on there. It's just not going to be posted until tomorrow. I'm sorry. Okay.

It would be for Stumfield Road from Whippoorway to the town line and then Olivia Lane. Yep.

Must start by July 1st, must end by November 15th.

I think the July 1st deadline would be Olivia Lane.

Seems a little gross.

Yeah. Yeah. We usually have it open for noon. So it's not going to be to your meeting until June 15th. They don't have to be in until June 11th. So I think that July is going to be, that would obviously be pushed. I think he's just looking for the time frame in between July 1st and November, middle to end of November because of the snow.

Are these direly broken? Or are these, I mean, something doesn't seem crazy broken. But anyway.

I think he's looking for the top though. I don't know if there's something like that. So it ends actually in front of Whipple Way.

Okay.

So it goes from Trundle, basically from Trundle down to Whipple.

Okay.

Yeah, he was sorry like the big communities and I just had a family issue.

Yeah, that's all good. And Olivia Lane is just a little public stock. Yeah. Not a middle, but is a public stock.

Right. And since Matt's not here, this is some context that we shared last year too. He's got kind of a running list of roads that in various order, like this is what's coming next. I mean, you know, which was kind of amazing. people went out for all the stuff filled last year, but the bids came in from when we had budgeted and we couldn't do all of it, so we had to prioritize it.

So these are just kind of the next worst roads that need to be done. Do we need to make a providence?

No, we just wanted you to be aware of it and to know when it's going to be posted and when it's going to be out there. So in case you've got any questions about it, we do have...

It's pretty standard.

Yes.

This is what we've used in the past, but it's been all right. Okay, how many responses did we get for the last years? Do you know what?

Okay.

So, how are our construction firms or even firms aware that this exists? Do we email them out? We put it on the website. How do we let them know that this is available?

It's put out to the website. I'm not sure if Matt contacts anyone. In past years, I've sent the RPF out to area companies and they've never gotten more than two back. Kensington is a very, I mean, it's not a huge job. So they have other larger

communities that they're working in that are going to take precedence.

I got it.

I think that's it for .

So Thursday, June 11th, they would be due for the town hall, or you can get them into MAD. MAD will do a walkthrough as needed. So if someone wants to know exactly from where, where, and there's measurements on the rooms that he has as well. So he would go through all that with them and his contact information is all right on the papers.

Okay. Thank you.

That's it for departmental updates.

Moving on to new business.

three special local permits. Yes, we have three permits that came into the park and there are two of them are signed off on by the chief, but one I just got today. So I talked to one of the park trustees and they said they don't see an issue with the date or the time that this is being done. So they're pretty sure that it's going to be fine through them. So if the board wanted to approve it, pending so your park and the chief signatures they would be okay with that and that would be in line with what's been done before um the other two the cheapest signed off on them and the park is already okay and so just be in motion um for the individual ones with the days um and then if you wanted to put the group via one hand maybe so that i didn't have to come back and as soon as it gets signed off on you can send them

Okay, this is just a permit to have consumption on the site that people are exactly a lot of the right now. Right?

Yeah. And all the amount of people are on there as well today. And the ages of the people that will be attending so that the chief is aware. So he'll take the content contact information down as well. So he has that. Which is how long it is.

On business. Yeah. Pretty exciting. It's a lot going on this summer.

Yeah. I'm not getting any advice. It's weird.

Graduation party. Infants? Infants.

All right. Tom. i'm gonna make a motion ready i'm gonna motion to approve the vote to approve this special alcohol permit for the town park on august 8th 2026 from 4 30 to 8 30 p.m has been approved by chief kane and park trustees i second that motion um motion to approve the special alcohol permit for a joke piece at the town park awesome park uh on june 27th 2026 from 12 to 5 p.m chief kane has signed up and the park has approved i second that motion hi Hey, Tom. Yes, sir. I have a special motion to approve the alcohol permit for a dance suite at the town park on July 5th, 2026 from 12 to 4 p.m. and with Sawyer Park employee chief's approval. I'm going to sign that motion. Bye-bye. I didn't sign it.

There's a signature line. Should we sign this one? We can just sign it. Or should we wait for approval?

No, you sign it. Yep, because in the approval, it depends. And so I don't think there's going to be approval without anyone in the professional, the rest of the process is finished.

Sounds good.

So I will move that one.

Thank you. Yes, solar exemption and then veterans. Okay.

So I would like to make a motion to approve the solar exemption for mapping team lot eight for the assessed value.

Second that. Hold on a second. I would like to make another motion to approve Veterans Tax Credit for 120 South Road, Map 4, Block 38-30.

I second. All in favor? Aye.

Next up we have

And always always stop a dream of something.

Yes, so we might want to put on to that one. I had talked to the chief and this agreement was in our when they're going to do the bridge in 2027. And the chief indicated that it was probably going to be meeting flaggers and policemen on that one where it's going to be just one lane. And because of the rescuers, I think that's what he was speaking about. So he was going to talk to them. So we're going to hold off on this if you're okay with that. I just wanted you to know if it's out there too. I can either sign off on this, but where he has a question with it, I think I'm going to bring it back to you guys and sign off on it and get an explanation from him after he talks for the safe.

Okay.

Thank you. additional threshold.

Okay, we don't speak kids. All right, I want to know the requirements. I'm gonna make a motion. to approve the additional part of the criteria of having lots of people doing that. I second that motion. All in favor?

Aye. Okay.

I'll put $2,002 on there too.

There's no waste.

Sal, yes. So you want to give me some eggs in there or something? They've done something off the eggs, yeah. I've seen that, you know, on the grandstand. The last one.

Yes. We do. My kids always say, well, why are you saying that? No, it's not her mistake. It's me. Yes.

Okay, and then maybe option. Yes. So we've been working Sarah's aware of it because she was in here. I think you're hearing anything about the aviation. Okay. Um, we have had someone come in and they actually hooked up. The units of other portable microphones that you see here with the bread on the top. There's another unit over there. There's a microphone. There's a speaker on the floor. And he worked, he hooked up a soundboard to it and then another. speaker that was up on like a point of a stand sorry um and he has a way to i'm sorry thank you um and so he has a way to stream them and edit them and give us back the raw and edited version um if that's something the board's interested in he's been working a lot on the system too and i think he had some comments if you want yeah

uh right now we have a better system than we had a week ago um it's just been like i'm proposing it's fine but you haven't really spent a lot of money getting these speakers and with the help my friend over here he found out about We probably could have gone all the way with just that. But anyway, we had this other system. I mean, speaking we have OEM before is nice, but it's, you know, it's really, we could have played a little bit, but to get it more rounded in the back end. So I think there's probably, I think the original cost was maybe $3,000 in bring his own equipment in, and we've benefited those who allow us to do this in the evening. You don't have to afford it. It was a couple hundred dollars to buy some equipment, upgrade the speaker a little bit, which is reasonable, but I thought it would be best to just let's go with this for a couple of meetings, make sure the recordings that are on the system, that people see them, that are good. They need more clarity, and that's

I can certainly feel a big difference between the last time I was here. So I have to say, overall, this seems like a massive improvement, even over when I was yelled at last time we were here. So, yeah, I mean, I accidentally speak a little bit too close. It gets quite intense.

Right. Do you see? Exactly. I agree, Peter. I actually wanted to watch on YouTube. videos as well, and I personally thought that there's significant clarity in the audio. So Jeff telling us about the cost of training people and I think spending $3,000 to maintain audio equipment for a year. I think we've got to go with what we've got right now. I agree. Our line is all the way down, Steve, so thank you for catching up. I mean, I think it's added that, I mean, this research has passed through the system, and for like about $40 for a microphone, you can get it a lot later, right? regardless of which way it receives.

That is essentially the only drawback that I can think of is that in order to make sure I'm 100% heard, I mean, I feel like I do because I lean in a little bit, which is fine, but it's a little bit awkward socially.

What would be the better tip once they're very likely to pick it up and kind of hold it towards you?

As a matter of fact, the only reason why you can plug in is to get power to the speakerphone. It's a battery pack.

So you can unplug it and walk away if you're still knocked back by that gun.

So if all it is, it's charming.

It's completely terrifying.

So the bottom would be a better option. So you could sit back on the other side of the line with it.

Yeah, the process of making things, it's just wrapped tremendously. So it's a little bit for the allergy.

Thank you.

Yeah, I agree.

Let's give it a couple of meetings and see, because if this works and we don't even need to go in that direction, then I think that'd be great. It definitely sounds, we heard feedback at the last meeting that people could hear much better in the back room than they have been able to before. I haven't looked at the YouTube video yet, so I don't know how that came up with reporting.

It's obviously clear.

Okay.

I was scared for my own voice coming down to it. That's where I realized how clear it was. But yeah, I was impressed. But you could clearly make out for the most part. And again, I think the biggest challenge is sometimes we pull away from the microphone.

So, but we're good here. Yeah.

And then we have other resources. If something fails us again, we need to revisit it, you know, and where to go.

Yeah, it's great to know that that exists. Thank you.

Thank you.

Just the approval of the board minutes and then your upcoming meeting schedule is on here. And then your contact information is on the bottom as well.

That's me. Yeah.

I mean, the number of the public attendance is, I'd say maybe a percentage lower than it was the last couple of times every year. So I don't think it's quite a forum to ask this question necessarily. However, the flavor of the moment seems to no longer be known waste management, which is nice, right? As the town adopted and adapted to new waste management functions seems to have quieted down in terms of issues and any time we have change management, there's going to be things that pop up. That's human life, but it seems to be good. One thing that was never necessarily resolved but had a decent amount of angst or issue was where the dumpster dropped with the cardboard. and their visual appearance from the town. Not that they're not working, not that they're not being utilized, but that they're in an area that is visibly less ideal than other areas in town. However, the other areas in town was not really ever provided. It was mostly just a, I don't like this move requests. There was a lot more sincerity and a lot more kindness there. That's the summary. I'm a little curious. I haven't heard anything in a while, so I don't know if this is still bothering people. But we have, so I talked with Jim. Jim is the owner of Elm Waste Management. And this was a while ago. There was a lot of attention and interest in it. Sorry, I'm taking one second to bring it up. And Jim went out of his way to get a quote. for essentially what we have at the Sawyer Park, where we have the fencing all around. So just drive in, Sawyer Park's main entrance on the left there, there's those dumpster trash bins, and they're covered in a fencing that goes all the way around. And I said, Jim, just give me some idea of how much that would cost, and maybe we could just keep them there and basically put something around them as one option. The option was not cheap. It was $2,650, and I was only halfway doing it. Halfway to the street. So the people on 150 can see it, not see it. And then basically people on Osgoode are out of luck. And the people that live in the woods are out of luck. But people in Dragon from the town would not have to see it. They would see a six-foot white picketed fence. That was $2,650. Which certainly... I was texted to me that's as far as woods. So I'm bringing it up today as an option to... How to hire somebody and bring them, put fencing on you, right? That's one option. I think a lot of people, I want people to realize that we did actually take their requests seriously. We did just ignore them. So that was one option. There is another option to move them, right? All he simply does is hook them up to the back of his truck and move them around the parking lot. We could move them somewhere else in the parking lot if we so wish, if that would be less visibly an issue or There's maybe other places in town, however, I can't personally think of one that's all that brilliant or centrally located. It's not right where it is already. So I'd be curious to see if you've heard anything since the first few weeks of the El Morroa. Have you heard any or know of any more ideal scenarios or places these could go? I'm imagining the interest in putting up $2,600 worth of fencing is about zero, which I think is appropriate. Thoughts?

I haven't heard anything recently, do you know?

Well, we were talking, we talked about it before about the dust that used to be in the parking lot in the back home. And those seem to be a little smaller than the one in the trash cans in the trash units here. Again, I'm just throwing this out there, that if you put them back here, I believe there's room on the other side of the small shed, they used to store combs and whatever. And they were outside of that mine. The only thing would be, what time of the day did people come in and bring the cardboard? I don't know. I don't know. I have some cards that bring in the cardboard, but the other thing would be that, or the other positive thing would be that people are concerned that people from out of town are going to Because it's in the middle of the pipeline, where it's whistling down.

And I believe there's some CCTV up there, isn't there?

I'm sorry?

Excuse me. I believe there's some level of CCTV around it, isn't there? Yeah, like surveillance. This building is on the front part. There we go. That's my own question. So would that uncover also the ability to identify any areas that are lost?

Yeah, monitor the situation. Be back on where it was before, right?

Yeah, it was a question with the parking, because when we're all here during the day, you wouldn't be able to put one on this side and this side has the wells on it down there.

Well, once the wells are paid, once that area is paid, there should be no issue with the wells. Those wellheads are down four, four and a half feet for us. Right. So the truck, the trash truck, the baby standing trash truck, that sort of big dumpster. Okay.

I did ask Matt to hold off on finishing the pavement over there this year through the funds because he got quite a bit. It was like $3,000 for him to do just what they did. And that was just a little past job to hold it off because it wasn't packed.

It should have shown.

That being said, the parking lot's not going to. I was thinking to bring it to the board to possibly redo the entire parking lot because we have some drainage issues. We had three falls in the parking lot that ended up going to the hospital last year. Um, so the, the parking lot has to be addressed at some point. So Matt was going to leave with a few contractors and just kind of get some quote for us to maybe put all the town more in for March next year. I know it's at the end of the season, but as far as cost wise, it would be a job to, to divert, you know, if we had to put drainage, um, those things like the grapes drainage grids or something that were under to go under the parking lot instead because it all drips off the roof right onto the walkway and the steps up front i mean we've had we've had trips involved before but last year was the most i've seen that's yes yeah and we were we were pretty good about keeping it everybody everybody could put them down when we went out there but it's when it drips down during the day and it freezes and We don't, we don't notice it till we leave.

The sun, initially the sun.

Yeah.

Just a while from even during the sun.

Yeah.

Gone by. Yeah. So, yeah.

There's a few things we have to address with the building. The, um, bringing, bringing up building stuff. The, uh, heat tape on the side didn't work this year. We have to put another one on this side and it started climbing or draining down, which is going to, damage to the inside of the wall from our building inspector. And we don't want that. And there was never any heat tape on this side. We didn't figure we needed it. I never noticed it, like you should.

It was, it was, but there's no fault in anything.

Well, that's it. There was no re-blocking, so that's why we were figuring. But then the drainage, the gutters that are hooked up, They drained right in front of the police department walkway. So when the police department comes out, any of them that comes out, it drains right into their walkway and then held by the cars. So that's an issue. But one of the vendors said that they could hook that drain into a pipe that was filled underground or into another area and push it out towards the trees. And we did put a drainage under the ground on the other side of the trees over there because we had a problem with a link over in those spaces. So I believe that that was, if you look across, I think it's done across the pavement that was done afterwards. Yeah. There's an area that was dug out and there was a drainage across. He could put it into that possibly.

Can you send it to the fire department over there? That's where it's located.

Yeah, it's about going there.

Yeah, we have breaks that are all around the building that are supposed to be doing that for the drainage.

It's just the entire, it just builds up so much. It's the entire area.

Yeah, to my knowledge, yes. So, But as far as the dumpsters, I'm not sure what to do with that.

In the winter, the police department parks over there so they can climb. Originally, you put the doors in front almost to raise awareness of. Right. can't yeah but if you're on this side of the parking lot i mean as long as you don't damage the grips to your parking lot right which i think you'd have to remind people of the ability to come in and out of the piece yeah either go to the middle or the side where it's kind of flat i mean we can tell if you dropped it and put it off the parking spot so that it's not taking up parking spots like it is right now i don't know the other option i can offer

is that for several years, I was on the Boy Scout Council for grooming Boy Scout projects.

And putting up a fence, like you're describing, is a perfect eco-scout project. And we can approach the local Boy Scout Trooper here, because they're always looking for projects to do.

I understand that they've done some great things over at Sawyer Park. And putting up that fence that you're describing is the hell of a material some Boy Scouts can do. That's a great idea, Steve. I mean, the Exeter basically, we've replaced multiple dugouts with Eagle Scout projects, which has saved the league significant money because Miami... My only proposal or thought was, you know, one was to, not that it's in the budget right now, but would we also obtain a quote from a fencing company? Because I don't know if Jim, understandably so, puts a little markup or whatever it is. It's not a full fencing construction. But to your point, I mean, that's a great idea. And, you know, they are always looking for project venues and that'd be perfect to move it maybe and then put something that's a little bit more high appealing and pleasing around it.

I know you have a solution. Absolutely. And I don't know if this would work and it wouldn't be as convenient for me personally, but why don't we have a 50107 where we have a public works area? Could it go there? Completely out of everybody's line of sight. I mean, I've never personally been there, but

We did think about that at first. There is restrictions on that lot. So we'd have to look to see. I don't think that we can have any kind of trash storage located on that lot due to the deed. How we obtained the property, there was restrictions put on the deed. So we'd have to look over the deed to make sure that that wouldn't be a restricted use. I think that you couldn't store trash there, but.

I like the thought though. I do. Yeah, that's essentially a drive-by, really cool avenue.

Have you thought about, like, having shrubs or something with tall trees instead of

Fence was there because it's technically on pavement. Right. So we're just trying to think of like a modular way of just winding it essentially. It was a shot in the dark and him and I were passing notes back and forth at 5, 7 o'clock in the morning, coffee. I mean, there's a lot of potential ideas we could do. And I'm sure we could use that parking lot. I mean, how often is that parking lot actually full?

Sundays from church.

Sundays from church or ice-related selecting communities.

Yes.

Yes. Yes. Okay.

You had talented people in town, too. You did have events. You might be able to put out there that you're looking for some kind of an artist to do a sketch of the town or something.

Do you think it's... I can talk with Jim one more time. Do you think it's worth doing a flyby the next time they're in town? They ask them to just... I'll meet with him and try to put it in a different section further back and see what the feedback is. And I'm sure we'll receive feedback through social media, if I have to guess.

Yeah.

So I'm sure we'll get it passively.

Yeah.

Okay.

I think it's a good idea.

So if you're saying we'll try it.

Run back everywhere. It's out of everyone's way. Still, they cannot. I mean, I'll make sure it's still viable out of them, right? That's the key. They got to be able to use it and try and reduce the detriment to car traffic. Okay. All right. I'll contact Jim. We'll let him know. We're going to try and maybe move it around a little bit. I'll take a picture of it. I don't need to take a picture of it.

Someone will do it for me, I'm sure. Did he poke on the feet of Ben?

Yeah, he did. Yep, he did. was 18 foot by 18 feet of seven foot by six foot white vinyl 36 linear this is going to make it less You know, I think you're right. Because the one that is. I think it's like that one thing that's woven through.

Yeah, I think it was honestly. Yeah, that's the guy up there. Yeah, I don't want that. This was this was not a very deep art. So yeah, this is like. Yeah, OK, give me a quote. Wonderful.

Yeah, that's about us. That's not people going. OK, I really think that you got ideas. Really neat idea. It also gets people engaged in the process, which is great. I'll work on moving it. I'll let you all know when it's done. We can keep moving it. It's a nice chessboard so we can, you know. Keep moving around supplements. Majority is happening.

All right. Thank you. Can you follow us?

We've got eight minutes remaining. Thanks. I'm not ready. I'm going to just pull these up for them.

Those are pretty expensive, so do you want to hold them all? Yeah, can you pull those? I don't think you all read them.

No, I haven't had a chance. I did transfer over my consistent email, so I have to hold that.

Okay.

I don't think I'm going to hear anything that has to do with this.

Any other comments on this? I don't think I'm going to hear anything that has to do with this. Any other comments on this?

Any other comments on this? Any other comments on this? Any other comments on this? Any other comments on this? Any other comments on this?

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I want to see how you see it. So that means we have a cat.

I don't think we can kind of introduce one when we have time.

So I don't know. I don't know how much they actually use. Is it open?

If it's not, you can go off around the gate. Okay.

I mean, I can take a peek along the way. That'd be great. I can chat with Jim and say, Jim's going for a ride. Maybe I have a dump in the dump. Yeah. Excellent.

Yeah. Matt's great. There you go. Perfect. All right.

Okay, but that to me doesn't seem like there's anything. The trash. Don't contaminate the soil. I don't think they've got a cardboard or a dumpster.

I think one thing, if that ends up working out, I think it's something we should be aware of is that if we've got more folks going there to drop off their cardboard, more folks are going to grab salt. So how much will that increase the amount of gain? I think some people don't even know it's there.

So I'm not like extremely upset about that.

That it's there?

No, like people don't, I mean, I think it's a good thing. People who don't have a lawyer letter exist. Much like using the transfer station, though, the townspeople don't know if it's saving or bailing.

Yeah, they didn't have to close it off last year because contractors were coming in and building their trucks.

That's not great.

No. So they did close off the salt shed. So there's different things you'd have to talk through with Matt first. It's unfortunate, but they were from another town, another state. Coming in and just loving it.

I'll again put your notes in.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay, so we're going to push the meeting minutes to the next meeting. Okay. Does everyone hear me? Yes.

So that's a bill that's a standalone that you can just initial that to be paid. I can do that. And that means there's just a normal bill within the department.

Oh, salt. Warm salt.

That was when the door broke down the stairs and I ignored the women. Oh, okay. The handicap access was broken, so we had them come and fix it. Okay. And that was the cost. They actually made it so that even if we, I call it hard for them to approve that check, the handicap wasn't working because of that. Okay. And that was part of the problem. So, yeah, it totally worked that way.

But it's part of the source to the books.

That here, I think that's get the oxygen through our source, right?

Correct. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it is. If you look through there is the amount. So when you pay your dog registrations, there's a portion that goes back to the state and it didn't be that year. And Sarah, if you set out, I think you've got to check to them for that.

Do you know how many are left? We had about 400, I believe.

in the last few years. So I'm not exactly sure how many she could 65 I think last time we're missing. She's in June release. You're not I hope you shouldn't know. I did not. No, you'll be signing the warrant. So Sarah said in June she'll come with a warrant for you guys to sign. And that's when the fees will go up for the $25. And there's no...

I'm going to position it to my wife though, the warrant for her breasts. We're short on our dollars. Yeah, it's a regulation, so we don't have a choice.

I don't understand so much what it is. that's yeah yeah that's part of our contract first is that the water something or is that her no like there should be tonnage on there um yeah it's a lot of yeah i'm trying to figure it out no no um we do have to check that out wow If you wouldn't mind, this is a previously approved veterans credit. If you wanted to motion to re-approve it, that's up to you, but they changed it to a trust. So in order for them to keep getting it, we had to redo some of the paperwork. So it's up to you if you want to be able to re-motion it, or if you want to just make your comfortable signing off on previous dates. It's up to you, honestly. The veteran hasn't changed, so the house hasn't changed at all. It's just the trust. They put their property into a trust. That's fine.

That's fine. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you.

Do you have any other questions about that bill? The one that's perfect.

And these dates also work with you guys for June and July? The 15th and 27th? Yep. Okay. And then non-public next week? that a possibility if you were to the i got sarah's time so that she could maybe get a vacation okay perfect if you can just respond back to me at the time and that would be good it's going to be for the library rooms i can see that but yeah okay because you said like friday not ideal things yes yes i'm actually working the best so far so if you've had a friday that's perfect what is that friday Uh, it's going to be next. Oh, yeah. 29. 29.

Oh, no describing.

And what time, but just, um, whatever it works for you for everybody is we're going to decide. Yeah. Anytime. Oh, I mean, I didn't do it right here on the day. No, there was. Earlier. Earlier. Okay. Okay. Would that be right?

You can do it. Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Perfect. Thank you.

That would be a legal meeting to not have posted or an open to the public meeting. It would be a meeting with the board and the council. Technically called a non-meeting.

Not a meeting, it might say it's a meeting, but it's not.

Yeah, it's not a reported or there's no notice. There's no notice.

Never saw me.

My kids just said something like that. I know that I did that, but I didn't. Yeah. well yeah okay i think that's it okay uh that's it then i need a motion to return the second is that our first meeting about to be clear for 30 hours uh yes i think the quickest one so far all right 36. oh

Let's take those 40 bucks. How much? 40 bucks? Perfect.

Do any of those people, scouts, want to go in?