City Council - Regular Meeting
The City Council discussed and took action on several key items, including the Keller Hicks Road Improvement Project, an ordinance for youth program standards of care, and a specific use permit for Amazing Hair Salon. The council also held public hearings and discussions on a planned development zoning change for The Preserve at Keller Oaks and political signs.
About this meeting
- Government Body
- City Council
- Meeting Type
- City Council
- Location
- Keller, TX
- Meeting Date
- May 5, 2026
Transcript
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I will call the meeting to order. Today is Tuesday, 05/05/2026. Welcome everybody to town hall. We just have some elections, so congrats to our mayor elect and councilman Wiley got reelected. So we're looking forward to having him. Is he gonna be joining us today by chance or or no? Do we know? We'll find out. We got a good agenda. We got an executive session item as well. So let's go through real quick the agenda, and then we'll break it to the executive and go into work session after.
under presentations, we will be recognizing the Keller High School girls soccer team. We'll also be recognizing the inaugural leadership greater Keller class. And then the consent items. F one, consider approval of the minutes for the Tuesday, 04/21/2026 regular city council meeting. Second item, consider resolution approving a contract amendment to professional services agreement with Baird, Hampton, and Brown out of Fort Worth, and that is for the purpose of providing engineering drainage review services relating to development applications for public works.
Any questions on that one? K. Third item, consider resolution approving the purchase of irrigation system parts and components for central control system from Longhorn Inc. And that is through the interlocal purchasing system co op program. Any questions there? Alrighty. If not, g one, old business consider resolution approving an SUP I'm sorry, a supplement to the public highway accurate crossing agreement with UP Railroad Company for the Keller Hicks Road Improvement Project. Any questions there? Any update? Did they
As long as it was a has an update. We have a presentation as well to go through the cost, but
you'll go through the presentation at That will be that
was my question to you. If you want me to hear, you want me to out there. The bottom line is I was able to get, the amount, from the original $1.00 4 down to roughly 85,000. However, the the resolution and the item still stays at a 104 unless you wanted to push that to the next meeting and and try to tighten those numbers up. But in going back and talking to UP, we were able to go through and identify what was originally agreed to, what's been invoiced, the delta that that produced, and why there was an overcharge.
So let me go and pull that up so we can see it real quick. Five by 26. So what you'll see on the screen is what I can also present again out there. Essentially, and if you can grab the lights behind you. Thank you.
What we have here is Main Street or US 377 and Keller Hicks. The railroad is here. Katy Road is just to the west. The project that, this is a part of is that darker gray, almost black, which reconstructed all of that with Fort Worth. More specifically, the part that is in Keller and the Keller City Limit is on the West Side here of the the image, but it's on the East Side Of Katy.
Just as a reminder, Katy Road itself is fully and wholly within Fort Worth. We pick up at the right of way line going east. And that's why we were part of this is that it's a Fort Worth project that we partnered with, and this is the, railroad crossing that was approved. So how did we get here? This is the joint project in Fort Worth.
Fort Worth is a project manager. This began over fourteen years ago. Say over because when I first relocated from Kansas, it was underway when I arrived at Fort Worth. I finally got the design completed in '22, and the interlocal agreement with Union Pacific was ratified in May '23. That interlocal agreement or that that that agreement between us and UP, committed the city to an estimated $213,917,000 dollars for the work UP.
That is the same numbers that you see shown below as a a gesture of their benevolence. And I can say that sarcastically, but $70,000 worth of sarco. Union Pacific has agreed to pay for half of what they originally estimated to be that surface work. Normally, that's something that's completely done by municipality. That's that all adds up to that $2.13.
However, as part of that agreement, the city agrees to pay the actual cost of whatever it takes when it's, when it's completed. But this is the best estimate upfront. These are the costs that it all comes down to. I'll let you digest that. But the estimates we just talked about is in that second column, the actual invoices and each of those came in here.
The difference you'll see, we are under spending on the signal work overspent on the surface work. And then we still have what we believe to be another $20,000 of invoicing to be received. So it puts us at about $85,000 roughly that $30,000 $28,000 less than 104,000 that we had originally started with. Why did this happen? It's important, so this is where you guys get to be a little bit of an engineer.
So this is the plan view or a view of your overhead of the railroad crossing in the street. When you go to the bottom of the page, then you'll see a cut view and you'll get to see what the road looks like before and after. The before is this dotted line underneath. The after is the darker line. It's important to note the difference between that dotted line and the dark line is because the road surface it was raised for various reasons, but we'll talk about that in a moment.
The Texas Municipal, manual on traffic control devices says that all railroad crossing arms need to be at least three and a half feet from the surface of the pavement, three and a half to four and a half feet. Because the road was raised and it didn't have to get raised much, we then were below that three and half foot clearance. And so the crossing arm mechanism had to be relocated slash replaced raised. That was not part of the original estimate. And so what what we see here are the two crossing arms.
While on the west side of the railroad, not a big difference. The the so that that's two and a half feet difference between the horizontal lines. So it's about three inches on the west side of the railroad. Not a big difference. Two to three inches because right here is where that crossing arm lines. It's a bit more of a difference east of the wrong line because that we got about four inches of difference. The reason we had to go up higher is because the drainage had to be accounted for. And so we couldn't keep the original grade and it was raised about six inches here. Eventually got to about three inches there. That was enough to kick the distance between the cross arm and the surface of the pavement out of compliance.
So UP came back to us and said, we're not gonna you know, we're not gonna lower it because you're gonna lose drainage. We just went through all of that. So we're gonna raise the crossing arm. That's where the additional cost came
in. Like to move it up on the pole?
So it's not just move
it up on the pole
because the whole thing is an integrated system. Okay. There's nothing cheap in The UK world. It's semen and
I'm just kidding. Yeah.
So what's what what the recommendation here is, and you can see, you know, these are the lights that are part of that, that cross arm. Those are the lights that need to be at least three and half feet up above it. And when it comes down, we could not maintain that that distance. What we recommend is that we continue with the current, supplemental agreement with UP that is still written for 01/2004, though we expect those costs to be around 90 just so that we cover this and are able to pay the the last of our invoices. This is the same presentation that I would make out there, but I'll leave it to you in this body how you want to handle that. I'll be happy to take any questions.
Any questions for Alonzo?
Okay. Alright.
Thanks a lot.
I have one question. So why
can't we just reduce
the amount of resolution and then
We can. We'll have to take it to the next meeting because of the noticing requirements for this meeting. And I couldn't get it done. Unfortunately, I was out in training last week, and I couldn't get it rewritten.
We just can't amend the resolution. I don't That's why can't
do it
on the fly?
Yeah. I think he Well, I think he could, but
he's just
it's less. Yeah.
Yeah. It feels more Forget what I that would. Yeah. Yeah. So do you feel comfortable with the dollar getting it down to the penny where we could amend it to, a particular amount? Or would you prefer us to wait until the next meeting?
I we could do either. If I have a preference, my preference would be to use what this is and not have to worry about getting down to that penny. Because this is we expect another invoice. We expect it to be about 20,000. I don't know if it'll come in at 20 or 22, and UP won't tell us until they invoice us.
So we got that's the only marginal.
We don't know the total amount. Is that what you're saying?
We know that it's right around that. But, again, until UP gives it to me, they won't tell me what it is. And, you know, this is part of them playing it close, and they don't wanna commit themselves one way the other as well.
Don't know what's in the bill if you read it.
Well, yeah, I guess I'll get it. Yeah. I mean, we can discuss it out there. I prefer just to, I guess, table it, and then I'll only give us the bill if they wanna still approve the
resolution. It's kinda how it works. Okay.
Better way to they're gonna send us a bill regardless, and we can sounds like we can wait till the amend this resolution once the bill is complete and just do it as a true up on that.
We can do it that way now.
In that way, you get the final number that we do as a true up rather than get an estimate now and then
Yeah. That's fine. Just go ahead and get that table so you guys can actually correct that.
We'll save you the last of the invoices. Yeah.
It's a clean document.
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. It sounded like, basically, by reaching out to them, saved saved the city $20,000. But then because they're hiding the last invoice, we're not really sure sure.
That's correct.
Yeah. So
okay. Thanks. Mhmm. H one e business. Public hearing. Consider an ordinance approving amendment to the city of Keller Court of Ordinances chapter 12 for the Parks and Rec section twelve one six zero by adopting the annual youth program standards of care. Any questions on that one? Second item, consider ordinance approving an SUP for Mason Hair Salon, located at 11112 West Hill Street. Any questions on that one? Third item.
Hello? Okay. Third item. It's all going out. Consider an ordinance including a plan of plan development zoning change from commercial. Plan development 14 o six, single family residential, 36,000 square foot. Single family, 15,000 square foot lots in commercial for the preserve at Keller Oaks. And that is a proposal addressed at 1001 Thousand 41008 North Main Street. Any questions here?
Are we still moving forward this night?
Okay. It's
put in my request to the table at this time.
Fourth item, public hearing, considering a resolution approving a future land use by amendment from mixed use, medium density, single family, and low density single family to retail commercial and medium density single family for the same property, address as prior. Any questions on those? Okay. We do have a pretty good work session, so we'll try to go through executive relatively quick. I know we've got people here. Just for the folks around so I know are you guys here for the short term rental?
Okay. Perfect.
They'll bust you guys in. Yeah. I know I know how you work. Alright. So if that's the case, any other one let me see here. No. Okay. Alright. Perfect. So we'll go to the executive, and then we'll go back in and then we'll try to hear your guys' first.
Just so you guys know, we're not taking an action on this item, but it's just more of a reintroduction following some discussions. Okay? So alright. We'll go ahead and go to the executive and then we'll come back in. I left office that we brought it back since it's been over a year, bring it back in kind of the purview of city council, maybe get an update from Stan as far as kind of what's happened in litigation with the courts and, some of the guardrails that maybe he believes.
I know that his office has been involved in some of those lawsuits. So, Stan, if you kinda wanna give an update to us and then, like I said earlier, we're not taking any action today. This is, more than anything, let's bring the conversation back. Now that we have some surrounding cities that have done something, relatively, recently, for us as a council that to start possibly considering and kinda weighing. So Cindy, do give
the update? Thank you. As as you stated, there are a number of lawsuits around the state on this topic about the city's ability or or what degree that they can regulate the STRs. Most of those lawsuits are not to conclusion yet, but they're at the court appeals level. We've got one that has been the Supreme Court and kicked back the court appeals.
The cities had by and large been fairly successful thus far, but they're not the regulations that we think are probably going to be palatable to go forward with are things such as limiting what zoning districts A lot of the approved by SUV. Putting parameters such as a a an annual permit fee, an annual inspection fee, determining how many people can stay in STR based on the square footage or or the number of bedrooms or or some metric that is objective. So we have we have been involved in drafting a number of ordinances for cities who are in litigation right now and we feel like that there's an opportunity to to put in place some level of regulation that doesn't prohibit them from existing in your city, but puts parameters on how they operate and where they operate. The courts have
somewhat explained, if you
will, that having an outright prohibition on STR is probably not going to be defensible than having reasonable regulations on where and how is the fencing. So that's
kind
of a summary. But like I said, most of those lawsuits are are still going. They're most of our court appeals, well, we've we've got two of them that are there right now. And so far, we we've we've been reasonably successful in our ability to maintain the localities' ability to regulate the STRs.
Okay. And then NRH, the one that they passed more recently, were there were they would did they include SCP language or was it just the mixed use or how did they do we have an idea?
Yeah. I actually talked to the director of planning this afternoon in preparation for this conversation. So they did basically a prohibition on STRs and single family zoning unless it's it was already operating property that met certain criteria at the time of the approval of the ordinance by council. So they're not doing STPs, but they are. Again, it's a it's a prohibition against any short term new short term rentals in single family zoning. And then they're all required to do annual inspections and registration. And so they are allowing them in certain zoning, multifamily, their transit oriented districts, mixed use districts, but not under single family. For inspection, are you
talking about health
code inspect? Like
No. It's like the building inspectors. Just building inspector.
So c Yeah.
Do they get COs?
Mayor, I would add that that's very similar what a Grapevine
is. Like, the COs
for each STO? It's just a registration. I don't think they're calling in a CO.
okay. Registration permit. I'm not sure
exactly what
the language is. That's fine. Was just curious if you might want that.
Yeah. You're baselining the exist they're baselining the existing ones such that it would be like if somebody new wants to to have an STR in a commercial, they
have to do that inspection.
All the ones that are existing are now at
the same baseline in terms of the inspections.
Right. But they have to re up every year. Yeah. Oh, they do. Yeah. Do they do a hot tax? They do. Yes. Yep. NRH does. Yes.
If if I may jump in, I had asked Kelly to put this on the agenda. And the fact that North Richland Hills has put forth the restrictions they have and the fact that we have allowed the STRs to fly under the radar, avoid hot tax, avoid any regulation, and have become a money machine for investors who don't even live here for the city to continue to ignore that and ignore the communities that are having to tolerate it is unacceptable and cowardice in my opinion. And Well, sir. Thank you for your enthusiasm. And I'm I'm just hey.
I you know, I sound like it is, but I have a place in Florida. I pay hot tax. I I pay a tourism tax. I pay a county tax. I pay an annual registration fee.
And there's a manager on property at my condo. And if anyone that I've rented to misbehaves or is out of line, they're out immediately. So for us to expect our citizens who are invested in the city and live here and are part of the fabric of this tapestry we call Keller And to make them put up with this is BS. That's my opinion. I'm just one on the council, but I think the city I know this is a work session, but the results of this work session, I would love to see that be that we direct staff to work with Stan and resolve regulations that are enforceable, reasonable, and protective of our community and get them on the agenda and try to put them into enforcement as soon as possible.
That's my opinion.
Are you I know we're getting a week here. Are you saying because I know I I have some concerns too. Are you thinking no STRs in residential areas? Is that what you're speaking to? I I Or are you just talking about regulating them?
I'm talking about leaving with them.
I I love what they did in North Hills, which is prohibit them. There's a prohibition on right now in single family neighborhoods.
Like Okay. That's all
was asking.
They they did offer for the ones that were already operating. They gave them a cutoff deadline that if they came in and registered and got caught up for two years worth of hot tax because they found I think she said they had upwards of 80 or 90 short term rentals and only, like, eight or nine had actually been paying the hot tax. So they offered a deal where if you were already operating, you did your registration, you didn't pass your inspection, and you got caught up two years back on your hot tax. You were, for lack of a better term, grandfathered. But no new FCRs can go into the single family areas.
When Julie proposed this, like, five years ago, she said we were gonna need a staffer for tracking. Mhmm. All that is that still case where we're still able to do that. Right?
I think if we
are because
I didn't think we needed a staffer
to do it.
So several cities are using software.
So Julie presented it.
Four or five
years ago. Yeah. Same. It happened.
What's so far?
Four or five. Three
no. Three years ago. Three years ago. Excuse me.
Three years ago. Sorry.
A while.
Up. Top five is what up on.
A couple times. So there there may have a five year conversation as well.
Yeah. But three years ago, Steve, is when it was presented. Yeah. Say but I because I don't think we would need one, but do I mean, I'm asking your opinion.
A lot of and I've only done very preliminary research, but a lot of cities are using a software that does all of
that for them. That's what
I was getting.
Several software companies will scrape basically Airbnb, VRBO, and you can even put in criteria. Like in North Richland Hills, they have a two night minimum stay for their short term rentals in in their ordinance. And so they have their filter set up with their software that will scrape and and flag for them any any short term rentals advertised within the city of Northridge and Hills that are less than a two night stay. So then staff can can enforce and address those. And this
is do they differentiate between six month and longer, or are they just saying several days? Like, you know, like, corporate rentals
that do,
like, six month or whatever.
I don't
think so, but I'd have to dig in a little bit more.
Something in a thirty day on that. Yeah.
Thirty? I don't know. Great.
House is gonna say what
is the definition of definite
That's why
I was asking.
One one of the additional issues is since these places do not have on-site management, I'm I'm totally in favor of you can't operate without an annual license. And if you have three strikes, you're out. You lose your license, license and you have to reapply the next year. It's an annual fee. And if you have disturbances in the neighborhood, if police are called, if there's complaints and you have three strikes against you, you lose your license.
You're out. And maybe even to the point that you lose your grandfather clause. Mhmm. Because the owners of them should be held to some level of responsibility for the behavior of those tenants.
Same as on the town. Exactly.
Well, this is within
our jurisdiction as a city. We regulate zoning all the time. Absolutely. We talk about commercial zoning. We talk about residential zoning. This sounds like it's commercial in a residential zone, and that wouldn't be allowed, right, in in a in a regular discussion on something else. Like, to me, this is within the jurisdiction. Plus to do is to regulate how property is being used and making sure
he's being used.
Then I eat
in the churro. Alright. Me.
Please continue. So I I echo what what councilman Wally says, and I think it's within our jurisdiction to be able to do that just like we would regulate usage on all the
land. We went to recess after that. Mean, I can't get serious right now. You alright?
It wasn't
wasn't my feet would've gone in there, we had a problem. I'll just take
it down.
I'm glad you're alright.
That wasn't just the truth. Don't know. Can I
have the same problem? Well, so I think, obviously, there's interest to bring it back. Look at NRH. We had this discussion five years ago. The or whatever it was. But I know that the issue then was we didn't also didn't wanna subject the city to litigation.
Right.
And so I think now with these more recent ruling stand, I think there's probably comfort there not to outright ban it like you said. But if there's reasonable, know, regulation that or guardrails that can be put in place, then I think everybody was okay with that last time with the exception that we didn't wanna subject the city to lawsuit. So if you feel that there's precedent for us to kinda start maybe putting these type type of place in place, then I would look at NRH, maybe Grapevine, then come back to counsel and continue discussion. But I think we at least now have some more recent rulings where you can probably be safe in that regard.
So we've been in contact with NRH and and Grapevine just this week. One of the suggestions from NRH was to do a focus group of the operators that really kinda help with drafting of the ordinance and reduce the amount of friction going through the process. So we'll come back with, you know, kind of some suggestions on process. Think May I ask you a question? Sure.
Do we know how many owners of STRs actually live each other?
I don't know that. I know that four or five years ago whenever Julie presented this, I think they found about 70 SCRs operating in Keller, but I don't know that they were able to figure out if they were owner occupied, if they had owners that lived somewhere else in the city, or if they were able to get that deep in the data.
For forgive me for being playing the devil's advocate, but to ask the owners Mhmm. And we're calling them operators, they don't seem to be very hands on management, but to ask them to come help us for that ordinances, they sound like putting the fox in the henhouse. Absolutely. That's Without a doubt. I because the the last thing they want, they've already been flying free. And the last thing they want is any restriction whatsoever. I'll jump
I'll jump in here. So I actually got a pretty good pulse on the FCR issue across town. It's the luxury of elections. That's been three years. And so you get to go visit with your neighbors.
And actually, I had one really interesting conversation. You can't have one conversation extrapolated to a whole As I shared this with you, Bill, the STR next to them actually improved their life because the neighbor that preceded them kept a terrible property. And so I actually have talked to enough Keller residents at this point. I think if they're Keller residents and they understand STRs, I would welcome their input. I agree with you on, you know, I resident.
Yeah. And there's Which is what I said.
Yeah. And there's plenty of Keller residents who understand this this concept. But to the mayor's point, I don't think anyone's against regulation. But I think, you know, in terms of is it reasonable, what does reasonable mean? I do think it's important that we get both sides of the issue evaluated just like we did five year olds ago. Well, maybe the
group. Then that
Oh, sorry.
Five years.
Then the focus group should also include people in
the neighborhood. Absolutely. That that would only be a a part of the public input. That's just a a piece of it. And I should have mentioned, yeah, that we would want Keller residents as as part of that focus group. But actually, what some of the other cities found was the local owners actually welcome the regulation because they were tired of the bad actors
Right.
Not being responsible operators. And so they actually welcomed the regulations and
wanted to follow the rules.
Yeah. But but certainly, that that would be just one piece of the public input and the gathering of of feedback.
Well, we get final vote on it anyway.
Right? Yeah.
We get final reviews.
So how do you know? How do
you and I guess it's you know, everybody's gotta be honest. Right? I mean, people have to come out and admit that, yes, I'm an STR. If we don't know where they are, how do we know that that people are not gonna continue to operate kind of a slide that we not
know advertise it. What we rely on similar to code enforcement, we would rely on complaints coming in from the neighbors that there's an STR operating in their neighborhood without registering with
the city?
Or So I think without having done the research on the different programs available yet, it sounds to me based on my conversations with peers in other cities, the best option would be to invest in one of those programs that would scrape all of those different sites. Gotcha. And they would spit out, hey, here are all of the short term rentals listed in Keller. Oh. And here are the you know, here is how they're advertising and going back to my other comment earlier is, like I said, Northridge and Hills has a two night minimum stay. So their system is flagging anything in Northridge and Hills that's advertised as less than a two night stay. So then they can address it with that particular property. But would be But certainly we would continue to be reacting to complaints whether they came in on the code side or on the the PD side.
So just to dig a little further. So to that question, software scrapes the data. You find an STR owner doing a one night rental. This isn't this is that well, you might not know. But I guess the question I would have would be, does city staff then proactively go out and like
cite the owner or
like what's the enforcement look like?
I think we'd have to work through how that process. I mean, just in generic terms. And I think you guys all know how we do with co compliance. It is highly unusual for us to go out and cite anything the first time. It would be a a notice typically on co compliance, but I think we'd have to talk through how we wanted to handle that. Because that's a different type of violation that RSAT has ever
worked on.
Unless there's a huge party and it's a criminal offense. Obviously, it's Well, sure. I'm just for people listening. I wanted people listening to know what you're
saying. Sure.
Like, if someone's breaking the law Okay. Yeah. Yeah. They get. Yeah. If it's
if it's just that their advertisement is not aligning with the ordinance, our first step is probably not citation. It's some other other step, but we would need to come up with some some procedures for that.
So let's
oh, go ahead.
No. My question
is, can when you do the presentation, can you also have an estimate of what the hot tax will probably bring back to the city? Rough estimate.
I don't think it was a lot. And what I remember It's
only, $200.
Yeah. Three years ago. But the yeah. Did you have a question, Greg?
Because I was gonna kinda move forward.
No. I was just gonna kinda put my 2¢ in and just to pair what councilman Wadley and and councilman Brennan have said. You know, I I think property rights are important, and I'm not I don't think anyone's looking to take one of the sticks out of the bundle, but I I think there's an expectation. You know, I hear my law professor in the back of my head saying words have meaning. And so, like, when when it's zoned single family residential, I think that creates an expectation that somebody is treating that property as their primary residence.
That's somebody's home. Okay. And I I don't think it's appropriate for single family residential to have these pop up commercial entities operating in the middle of neighborhoods. It wouldn't be okay for me to go buy a house in the Middle Of Hidden Lakes and operate a commercial vehicle repair garage out of it. And so I don't think it's appropriate to treat it like a hotel room. And so I would be in the favor of taking it out of single family residential.
And the councilman Wally's point, the majority of these are private equity?
Yeah. A lot of them. Yes.
Yeah. So
that would change the hotel revenue if we're just as we review that, just may Right.
But yeah.
Was that the select
clock? Yes. That's two clocks? Third one, you're out, man. Just So let's let's do, let's do this. So this was a temperature check. Yep. Water's warm. So kind of if if you guys can, maybe coordinate with Ross as far as when to put it for the next agenda or counsel.
Yeah.
But I would when you come back to your point, look at NRH. Sure. Maybe bring that kind of model to us. And then I know there's gonna be things that we're gonna probably need to kind of,
you know, fish out.
But but it sounds like there's interest
go back and
pursue that again.
So And are you comfortable with us reaching out to some of these software companies to say, hey. Can you give us initial scrape of what we have here? That way we can kinda know. Of course. So, you know, just wanna kinda
have a a lot of staff time if you don't.
Yeah. Just with a door to
door, just like Ross does.
Unless y'all know
how to code AI yourself. Yeah.
Okay. Yeah.
Good. Yeah. Thank you, guys. Thank you all. I appreciate it.
Thank you. Political or, I mean, a color lights. Just move on that way and then
Do you wanna do this? Do you
wanna do
Skip the survey for
the very end or wanna knock up the survey? I think think for
survey data's survey is
good. Okay.
Let's do that way, I don't wanna keep her going. Yeah. So yeah. Let's do the color lights and that way they don't have to camp out here.
Why? Why not?
Because he's only on Zoom. They got for the other one. Are you still on Zoom?
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Please.
Alright.
Good afternoon, everyone. So we have Keller Life twenty twenty six coming up and it is the 200 birthday, for America. So this is gonna be our schedule. It's the same as last year, and some enhancements are, to be discussed in a later slide, but, the schedule will stay the same. Shuttles five to eleven. Vendors will be open from six to ten. We'll have KJO perform at 6PM, the famous hot dog eating contest at 07:15. We'll have live music on the main stage, And then a special guest mayor and council come on at 09:30 with the trumpet, solace, and fireworks to follow.
And what what is the date?
July 3. Friday, July 3.
Okay. Guess
so. These are our vendors signed up for this year, so we are sold out. It's the same amount that we've had in previous years, so we'll line the entire road, with dessert and food vendors.
Okay. You got the lobster. Yes.
We got cousins mang, we got hook and ladder, We got our our favorite street foods on there, so we got a good variety.
Are we gonna do a tent like we did that one year over there
or no?
Didn't we do, like, a big tent for beer? It's a
beer tent. The beer tent was across the road. That was
Oh, okay. That was an outside source setting up on the the field across the road. Okay. We do have Crown Catering. They're bringing their mixology trucks, so they serve, like, margaritas and and alcohol that way. And we're still reaching out to what's on tap to see if they wanna bring their beer trailer back again this year. So we're trying to plan a little bit a little alcohol, but alcohol is allowed, just no glass.
So it's okay for the city to sponsor an
event that alcohol is served?
They did they pull their own permits, so it's no liability on us. They have to do all their own permitting and all that good jazz.
They actually pay the
They pay as a vendor slot to come.
Yes. So
we do. That's America.
These are our sponsors so far. We're still getting contacted daily for sponsorship, so I expect this to grow.
What are the sponsorship levels, Jordan?
They start at $500 as a community sponsor. That doesn't get you a boot space. It's just somebody that wants their logo on our materials. And then it goes all the way to $10,000 for our presenting sponsor.
And then a little bit in between, we
have a thousand dollar, 2,500, 5,000, and 10,000. So we have different levels.
So Methodist this
year's what? Level?
Right now.
Are they
the presenting?
They are our $5,000 sponsor, so they're doing our fireworks sponsorship. And then if they are our highest, they get bumped to presenting sponsor.
Got it. Okay.
Yeah. Jump in for
sure. No. I was just saying we need to get them to pick up.
Mazami Falls coming in.
I know some of those folks there. We can start making some calls, but maybe next year.
They did they did sponsor a lot of our other events in the fall, so they had some leftover revenue. So they ended up giving us $10,000 total for the year. They just spread it out over
a few different things. So
these are some proposed activities to enhance the two hundred and fiftieth celebration. So these are just some activities staff has thought of. Free activities for the, public patriotic rock painting to put along the rock trail, having a face painter out and giving out free face paintings just for four hours straight. Same thing with balloon artist. We did both of those activities at Art Walk, and it was a great success.
The kids loved it. They could just walk up and get a free balloon or face painting. We want to get a balloon wall to do a photo backdrop, photo opportunities, and then do a photo contest afterwards. So everybody posts their photos from the event, hashtag, and have a best photo from the event potentially voted on by council if that that's something y'all wanna be involved in. And then we even thought about getting some event branded light up phone batons, like, the bottom right hand corner.
We can get our logo on it or other light up swag to hand out. And then additional enhancement ideas. So we wanna go bigger for our headliner. So we are looking at getting Emerald City Band. They're a 12 piece band. Really popular, very lively crew.
Well, I've seen them.
They're good.
Yeah. They're very lively, play a lot of the top hits, lots of sing along. So we're looking to
Saw them at Dallas twice.
They were good.
They they've been around for forty years. Mhmm.
They're forty three years. I want more than I'm forty three.
Sorry. So they're a great band. They they're excited to come if we want them. So that's who we're trying to line up. Potentially having a drone show in coordination with the fireworks. So drones are since it is a 250 celebration, drones are kind of a little sparse. So the firework company contacted us and let us know their company that they typically work with. So they were able to get us a proposal for a drone show to do during the firework show. I have more information on that on the next slide. We've talked about extending the firework display to a twenty minute show instead of a fifteen minute ten second show.
So definitely longer than Southlake this year. And then roaming entertainment throughout the event. We're looking at bubble artists, caricature artists, jugglers, airless performance, and maybe some stilt walkers. Maybe not walking through the crowd. The stilt walkers
to the presentation.
When did I add it? Maybe later this afternoon? Yeah.
Yeah. I
had birdies in
my ear.
It's gonna be Jordan and Rachel. That's all. Yeah. Okay. That's that's
That'd be cool.
So probably not walking through the field, but maybe in the circle where they can do some photo opportunities. We don't want them to step up with the kids. So those are just some of the proposed ideas. Kinda wanna get your feedback, how y'all are feeling, if y'all wanna go big and boom.
I it's our two hundred and fiftieth. I think this is a I know growing up when the cities did events was a big deal, and I have memories of parades and flags. It meant a lot to me, and it's important for the younger generation to see us celebrate that, especially nowadays. I think going all out's great. Greg had an idea that I actually thought was good too, but I'll come back in a minute.
Go ahead, Greg.
No. I've had for years,
I thought it would be
a great idea for us to add a dunk booth and, you know, put a big sign that says, dunk Mare McMullen.
Yeah. And
the rest of council in small letters underneath. But
ice and water.
Yeah. I do have people. Yeah. But I think it'd be I think I just think it'd be a
a good way to, you know,
get let the let the
let the residents poke some fun at us and
and watch us get dumped. Kids love
that too.
I got a quote on that earlier. They're relatively cheap, so that's something if y'all learn
That's great.
If y'all know that.
I got it.
I think we should measure
who brings the longest line Okay. For getting dumped.
That's what
I think
we can get.
What like
we used to
move back to
Nobody wants to see me or Greg
Wedd. So
Like in the in the seventies when I was a kid. Yeah. I'm old. We would like put red, white, blue streamers on our bikes and we'd have like little bicycle parade maybe for younger kids, like, around the circle of the town center here. We could have kids. They could decorate their bikes.
Yep. We can look into that. I know the police department used to do a bike parade the morning of July 4 before we brought on KellerLights. They used to a parade. And I know year one, when we partnered this event, we partnered with the Farmers Market and the Chamber. They did a parade. And the actual parade parade was a little too much because kids were running out trying to grab candy, and it's just so many people. Mhmm. But we can look into logistics for You make age limit so you're not having.
You know? Yep. We can
look into that for
sure. One thing, Erin or Greg had the idea just also. That's around about the time we're gonna start asking for nominations for the city awards thing we all approved. That's gonna happen in October. So at the event, we'll take advantage of having the 28,000 people asking them to nominate people they think should be volunteer of the year, system of year, and things like that. So kinda taking advantage of that for that event. QR code. Yeah. Yeah. The QR code. Yeah. Yeah. They take a screenshot and do it, which brings me to the second thing with that. I know in our first year, we had some screens up because I know we did the stage down there the first year of things and people up here. I liked having screens.
I know it costs a little bit more. And because, you know, you put screens and screens and speakers depending on maybe staff discuss if it's worth it to look at it again. I don't know how much it costs, but, you know, when we get 28,000 people and there's people over there and they can't see it. And then also it helps, like, well, I guess, Ross would be should say Armin. Ross or whoever's speaking this year, they can hear it more clearly. But I don't know if that's been a problem. I did like it when we had screens, but if it's cost prohibitive, then
We can I can look into that? I know our production company, they added a ton of speakers last year to the backside of town hall and cranked it up because my my parents sat back there, and they were like,
we can
hear everything. Because I made sure like, he turned down the music just so people could conversate because they typically go to the back if they wanna hang out and not be right in front of the stage. But we made our production company turn it all the way up when we had the speakers come on
the stage
at the end of
the night.
And I and again, with the speaker, it was just cost prohibitive. Don't worry. But if it's not that much, I think it was helpful for people that aren't close enough or on the other side of the trees. They can see, you know, the bands and everything. Absolutely.
Just a couple the price.
Thank you.
Yeah. Yeah.
Anything else? Is
there anything on here that you're it's a no go y'all don't like, y'all don't wanna see?
No. It's great. Good job. Yeah. Okay. It's gonna
be one thing I would say is well, too, big picture. I could be the goal that I I personally would love is just for everyone to remember where they were at 07/03/2026. Like, to make it that big. Not that that's the expectation every single year for the two fiftieth. Just take it to that take the words out my mouth and next level. But in all seriousness so my question would be if there are other ideas that come up after maybe, you know, anyone of us has an idea or even a resident, someone sitting here has an idea. When do you need feedback by? And it's kinda like the the day where it's like if we give Jordan another idea then, you know, she's gonna get upset. I've never seen you upset. So
Yeah. No. Because it's the 200 and fiftieth, we're already kind of approaching that. Like, I'm calling Vince, and they're like, who let us scramble and try to do this for you? So I would say
Today. Yeah.
Like, the next Friday.
Two weeks.
So between now and next council meeting?
Yes, please.
Anything after next council meeting would be too much, probably. Yeah.
And we're have
to work on the street.
Also, I think tonight we're locking in the What we have on. What we have as far as these things. So giving the drone the drone show in the firework extension, give those the go ahead so that we lock those in and make sure that happens. And then we can continue vetting out the rest of those to make sure that they are we we have those opportunities.
So So just a couple of really quick comments. Overall, I think it's fantastic. For the some of the kiddo activities in particular Mhmm. I would have like, I would overstaff it and understaff it because there's nothing worse than being a parent with a young kid who wants, you know, Mickey Mouse drawn on their face and then you have to wait two hours for it.
So I
would if we're gonna do that, then I would make sure we have, like, a lot of it. Yeah. Too many of it. That's good. I'd rather do less things, like, really, really well than just put ourselves in thin.
That's a good point.
Maybe I missed do we have the hot dog eating? Is that still a thing or
no? Yes.
No. Yep. We're still partnering with Verizon Outpost. Okay. What
about taco eating? For the people that get to hire the hot dogs.
Because you
like back to back. Eating.
Because you back to back. Could you do a second?
I mean, I could look into it. That'll eat
away. Next level?
Are you guys serious? Yeah.
You are being serious? I'm being a
100% serious. Oh, man. Alright.
Okay. I really is next level.
I just got idea. Just shoot it out there.
Well, the only thing I just think of is just obviously I know you always advertise it. We put it out there. But just to say that this year, we're really going out for the February. Not just the usual, but, like, hey. Because we already get the 28 25,000.
Right? Mhmm. Rachel heard. We
did Hype Oh.
Hype video? We did
Rachel's not.
Yes. What about swag?
Swag. So we're looking at getting the light up the ponds, and I'm looking into, like, some light up balls. We already have mini beach balls. Canvas? We have a t shirt can, and I just have to find where to get c o two filled up. It's not that easy anymore. Like, the little canister, I have to find nobody does it anymore.
If like sells them. Okay.
Empty. I know.
Yeah. I have find where to fill it. But we have a t shirt cannon, and I will make it my mission to get that working condition just for you to
Don't don't give it
to Ross.
I will figure out.
Point it up, not out.
I don't need that liability.
The ranger we asked
the rangers for
one of theirs.
Yeah. No. I'm thinking it'll be pretty cool to have a couple t shirt cannons
and No. We have, like,
a giant The
the slingshots?
Oh, yeah. We have a giant City of Killer branded t shirt can. I mean, we have
Trippie have like a t shirt, like a color lights two fifty t shirt.
We do not. Would y'all like them?
Well, that's what I'm thinking of choosing the t shirt cans.
Over oral.
Yeah. Most beer distributors will fill your
I wanna attend
Gracie's wedding. I know.
Okay. I'm gonna go Gracie's wedding
with the taco eating contest. Alright. Well, that's that's all
I'm gonna
say now. Yeah.
So these are the the renderings from the drone company of what examples minus the Santa Claus hat on top of the Texas. This was a Christmas show they did. So this is what it would look like. We're looking at about 78 drones, but with the fireworks, it they said it will look really just
Just show, like, George Washington shooting at some red coats.
How about on a boat?
Yeah. No. Yeah. Crossing the Delaware.
Any questions or ideas? That was
awesome. Yeah.
Thank you.
This is not easy.
Thank you. And
thank you for the rest of the folks coordinating public safety and everything. Yes. I know it's not easy. So so Good deal.
Keep in mind, is a one you know, we'll probably have to pull some fund balance for this. This is a one time to celebrate the two fifty.
So Yeah.
I understand that this won't be the maybe maybe the t shirt cannon. I like that idea across the board. But that won't be every year.
So We won't do this till the 500. There we go. Yeah. Let
me know if y'all have any other ideas by meeting if you don't mind.
Just to be something is also doing on the third.
Yes, sir.
Correct? So you you do have some surrounding cities.
Yes.
Okay.
A lot of cities did move to the third just because it's a Friday. So you have your big ones. But at, like, Addison, Kaboom Town, they moved to the third. But Fort Fort Worth, Ford, Dallas, the big cities are sticking
to it.
Why did
why did we switch? I'm sorry.
I just
don't remember.
I think it was mostly for holiday pay for all of our PD and fire.
We had
to pay that.
They don't they can be with their families on
the fourth. That's correct.
We've always been the third. The fourth was the the employees to be with family on
the fourth.
Yes. So
And and it tends to be Yeah.
I think when was it?
Was it last year or a couple of years ago, we there was a couple days, but that was because we didn't wanna do it on a
Yeah. We did it on the first one year because it was a Saturday. Yeah. But it's been on the third for the past three years.
Oh, yeah. Just curious. Yeah. Oh, and I I like that.
Yeah.
They also we also like to compete with Southlake, so on the same day.
Well, no. No. The reason I brought that up because it's it's nice from a traffic
and Absolutely.
Perspective. So Do we
get the stage or do they since we co own
They get the stage, but we get a bigger, better stage. So it works out in
our favor.
Yeah. They have a two forty nine they have a two forty nine stage. We have a two fifty. Exactly. Exactly.
They get the 20 year old stage. We get the pretty big one with the lights. Yeah.
Well, and we're
are we actually going forward with fixing the
We are fixing the floor. Yes.
We are fixing
the floor so no one will fall through.
That's good. Yes.
It's been been rickety for a while.
That's churros between now and then.
Yeah.
Yep. So it'll be fixed before tiller summer nights.
Thank you. So thanks, Jordan.
Yep. Thank you.
Okay. How long is the survey gonna take?
Probably take thirty minutes.
Okay. So it's
I would I would Sorry. I would So
it's not gonna be the not go for us. Yep. Alright. So third item, the way finding signage in the sports park. Is this Keith or okay. We have we have a presentation or something or
He's he's got some neat ideas for it. Okay. So you should be able to add it. Yes.
Alright. Well, so as you know that, we have existing signage out on the site, for IDs for the field. But we wanted to give some, context by showing that, recapping that, and then going into So there's been discussion about having additional way finding added to what's on-site? Okay.
Tip up her cars, they know we're apart. Right. Yeah.
And that was in the additional that was in the original master plan. But because of, cost that was pulled out initially. And so now we're coming back and looking at that as an addition. So I wanted to recap what's already out there. These are the signs that are at the ball fields at the baseball and softball fields. So to give you an idea of the context of what we're looking at in terms of fonts and things like that. So that's the ranger font that was added. Just recently, there was the Keller font previously, for these signs. And so that's what those look like. Then we have the lacrosse sign at the lacrosse field.
These are the signs that are gonna be at the soccer field. They're gonna be located on the fences on the, on the soccer parkway so that you see those on between the nets. And then they're also located on the ends of the fields, the small the small soccer fields on the east side. And then each of the fields have these large letters that are cut out, and they're gonna be on the shade structures. Those are the color font.
So those will be all there. And then back to the baseball fields, we have the larger vertical signs that are on the shade structures. That's back in the the ranger font. And then over at the multipurpose field to the north, it has that, color font again. So that takes us well, then we have the soccer fields. They also have signage on the nets. So that takes us back to the idea of wayfinding. And so initially,
in the master plan, we
had some sketches that was just some some ideas, some concepts of how this could look and looking at potential location monuments, vehicular signage, pedestrian, and have an entire family of signage. And so what we've looked at is some some rough cost of what that might be of how the construction go and and basically concept out what the cost of each one of these elements are. And so if we took this throughout the site, this this cost could run from between it could range between 500 to 750,000, even 700 to to 1,000,000.
Just part of why it was, I believe, cut when we went through
the process.
Right.
That was part of the reason that we cut it. And then, but so there's also this thought of, let's take the idea of the existing Keller, wayfinding signage that's along the highways and straight in the streets, and how would that incorporate into the vernacular of this of the site. Now this was just a real quick concept of taking that sign, putting the colors and the the, Ranger font in there in lieu of this the font that was initially in the wayfinding sign that's already out on the streets. And that's what that would look like. This is using the, the, eye beams that we have throughout the site and some of the and some of the character of the site.
And so that's what that looks like. And, let's see if I have
anything else behind that. Yep.
And that's it. And so the idea is, do you want to, look at something like this? These would run roughly three to five thousand dollars a sign. And so if we looked at a white finding signage package that's a little bit more, conservative, then we would be in the range of $2.50 or 200 to 350 to 300. So that would be a much reduced cost to do something in this topic capacity.
Yeah. So I'm I'm much more in line with this, and that's what I had in mind when I think I texted true story, Erin and Cody. Was like, where's Victory Field? Because I was running late. Maybe it was you. It was me. It was Ross,
actually. Yep. Sorry. So I'm
still trying to figure out where Victory Field and Legacy and all that. And and it happened twice with my wife, by the way. So, you know, this to me is sufficient. I mean, that's Yes. You know, tells you where the fields are at. We've got great signs in the field already. Mhmm. I meant more like this. So glad glad to
hear that.
That's what
that's why this is more
traditional way of finding and much more budget friendly.
And and as we do tournaments with as these organizations do tournaments, like, when you pull in, it's nice to have the big four foot things by the fields, but you can't see it till you drive in front of it. Having this helps, and it'll help alleviate traffic jams
during I would. Yeah.
Tournaments as well.
So what is the funding mechanism? Where does the money come from?
I think that's one of the other be it KDC, and I think that's the question that we wanna try and find a way to do that this year. We can like, we always do to find a find an option, or do we wanna include that as part of the FY twenty seven KDC budget proposal? And I I think that's the I think some of the direction I could have. We were looking for as well of if if we're looking for wayfinding and and we can work with them on what that looks like, that's a easier easier setup, but certainly, the others would be you'd have to plan multiple years on to do.
This does this does the job.
This does. And I and I I agree when I'm out there. It's not it would be nice to have a these fields this way. Yeah. And so it it's a it's a needed thing out there, and I think that aesthetic still looks really nice.
Yeah. It gets really bad just for those that have been out there. Like, traffic slows down, especially on the soccer fields when people are trying to left neck and look, this will help a lot. Especially coming in from Fort Worth. So quick questions.
Who how are you gonna decide where they go?
So they would have
to be a study that shows where the signs would need to go, how many signs we need, and what kinds of signs we need in those.
So we just have our parks and recreation committee, like, fix locations instead of, like, a study?
Well, it's not it's it wouldn't be an exhaustive study. Mean, it's basically, I can
do a concept.
Yeah. When I say study,
he saw he saw your s with
a dollar sign. I was like, you For
a small nominal fee.
Yeah. You know? And so, yeah, weight finding can go weight finding can go off the plywood No. Off and off the rails because you can you can get into logos, and you can
get branding and all that stuff as well. That's what I second point I was gonna raise is there's been some discussion about, like, the city of Keller branding. And so I almost wonder if we need to, like, a strategic planning session talk about branding with the city, and then do the Wayfair signs. Yep. But then try to do the Wayfair signs without delay once we get that Yeah. Question.
Get the It
would be a really big delay, so it'll probably be ready still for
fall. And for the next budget cycle,
you're saying?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
So just make sure I'm at the strategic testing, talk about branding with the with that might look like and changing that. Makes sense. And then assuming we once we know the result of that, we then would start looking at how to accommodate these signs to that branding.
Yeah. Right.
I was gonna say, you can you can set the signs up so that you can get the weight binding set and then put the weight the the branding above it in this condition.
Oh, that's good. Because it is a separate So
that way people can find their way. Yeah.
In the meantime. Yeah. I
think, you know, the biggest is making sure that this is this is the kind of science that you're you're comfortable with and we can then
go to work from there.
Yeah, think so. You guys agree with that? Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, man. You. Couldn't just start with that.
Show the expensive one and the cheaper
one. Oh, okay.
Yeah. Alright. We can knock it out. So discuss political science. Can we knock it out? This is your ass's baby. Guys
I'll I'll jump in. Yeah. Go ahead. I'm the one who asked for it. Oh, okay. Alright. So I'm gonna ask the mayor and my fellow council members, how many of you would like to see voter engagement, voter percentage in color increase? Show of hands. What?
It's a shark tank presentation. Go.
It's shark It's a a shark So here's what baffles me. We all want that. And this also will tie into the citizen survey. Yes, sir. We all want that. But yet we do things that have the very opposite effect. Very opposite effect. We put signage here on city property in violation of our own code of ordinances. I've already talked to Stan about it. There is no state law to stop us from having the code that we have in place here in Sheldon.
When this c hall without hall was on a polling location, each candidate is limited to three signs. Those three signs are supposed to be in the gravel around the fountain. We had 11 candidates and this place looks like a junkyard.
Oh, so the ordinance doesn't say you have to put out at minimum three signs. It says only three signs?
It's just
think that's the guessing Billie. It's the lawyer right here. So so as Wallace heard me talking to a voter, I was so frustrated. I went to every candidate because I adhered to the code. I had three signs. I had my chair. That was it. And I went to all the candidates and said, hey. You are running for a leadership position. Shouldn't you be a leader and set an example?
And here's what the show said. Some of them did not know we had a show. Some of them said, I'm not gonna check mine down unless he checks his down. Which is like trying to referee a couple of third graders in a sandbox. And some said, well, I'm I'm gonna force the city to do their job to come
out here and
pull my signs up. That's that's the only way I'm doing this is if the city manager will do his job and make total enforcement come out and take these signs. The logic of that to me is the same as saying I'm not gonna mow my yard until somebody tells me I have to. Or I'm gonna run a stop sign until a policeman gives me a ticket. I there's no logic in that. So halfway through early voting, I quit trying to ask people, hey, vote for me. Yeah. Because I was embarrassed to be a candidate. I thought instead, I'm gonna ask a simple survey. And people were happy to answer.
And they all expressed it differently, but they all had the same answer. I would ask them, when you pull in here the boat off of Bruce Snow or or Heller Smithfield or Bear Creek, do you have a pretty good idea who you're vote for? Without exception, 100%, and I promise you I asked over a 100 people this. 100% said, oh yeah I know. I said do you do these signs, all these little signs that make this look horrible, do that do those signs have any effect on your decision?
100%. Not at all. How do you feel about it? And here's just some of what I got. They said I feel intimidated. It makes the candidates look petty. It it's an eyesore. We say we're a three city. How many trees did we shut down to put these 400 signs of whatever it was around the city? We we have created a voting environment at our own town hall where we make it so distasteful for a voter to come here and vote.
But yet we have the hypocrisy to set this table and tell god, wish people would come vote. Why won't more people vote? Well, how nice because we have to be less of a jackass in the voting process. And we have to act like mature adults and leaders and not like petty little desperate people in the back of a room going pick me. Pick me. Pick me. It it it and guys, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I and and and there were only four people. Out of all the candidates I talked to, there were four people who followed the ordinance.
And that was Zane, myself, Taggering, and halfway through after I talked to Ned, Ned came back two days later and said, you know, councilman, way I thought about it? And you're right. And he took his chance. All except the three he was allowed. We also jockeyed for position with these shots down here. Almost one of our guys ran for mayor almost got in fisticuffs with the doctor's car show because he was in such a hurry to put his tent up. He almost bumped his tent into a guy who had an automobile with a 50,000 wire dollar paint job, And they had that space till 04:30. I personally and I'm I'm I'm wrapping this up.
Yeah. Because Russ shouldn't have done that.
Yep. No.
No. No.
He he didn't
he didn't come close that time. I'm lucky. He he he he was the one who wanted him to do the job making police on
you. Yep.
That that was that was his.
I know.
So so for the record,
I'm I'm
I'm an open book, man. So after talking to over a 100 people who told me how they felt about this, I want two things to happen and it won't happen without the direction of this council. That is number one, enforce that ordinance. Now now it doesn't apply off a city property. But here at the polling place in this building that belongs to the citizens, let's enforce that code.
Let's enforce that ordinance with extreme prejudice. And anybody who violates it, we pull those sides up and throw them in the dumpster. We don't hold them for them and we tell the candidates don't even think about it. Number two, mark off where those kids are and just like, hey, I don't I don't even come up here when they say, alright. If you're running for office, we'll do a a lottery. You draw a number to see what position you are on the ballot. I a lot of political strategists say, oh, it makes a difference. If you're number one, that's a better I didn't even come up and draw a number. Whoever calls, that's fine. I don't care.
We need to do the same thing with these tent positions and say, hey. There's six positions. Whatever. How how many candidates? We'll mark off where your tent should be. You come up to town hall. We'll shift the numbers up, draw it out of the half, and that's where your tent goes. And don't come up here on a Sunday afternoon or Saturday afternoon, bugging the car show or swatting down here like it's an Oklahoma land rush. And then if you don't have that tent in that location, you're gonna lose. Guys, I I spent less money than I've ever spent on a campaign.
I have fewer signs than I've ever had. And I, for some reason, I still won. Maybe it's because if we act like the leaders we are, that's what gets us to vote, not intimidating the voters. And I'll shut up at this point, but I wanna bring this back to council because that's what I wanna talk about.
Well, I think everybody's okay with because we're
move. Yeah.
And force the ordinance.
Well, that and the city well, yes.
Yeah. I you and
I found out about the ordinance at the same time. I remember we were out
in front
of town hall.
I've ran in multiple campaigns, and I don't think I even knew there was an ordinance in place.
Please send it out.
I think the issue the issue, frankly, and Aaron can probably speak up, is at some point, it stopped getting enforced. And so then his problem was, do we enforce it now midstream? So now that we don't have an election, I don't think there's an issue from a staff perspective to enforce it. Right?
Yeah. We're not
yeah. We're we're
gonna put it
on an agenda, but we're not gonna stop at signs and tents. We're gonna talk about the use of town hall facilities for political events and things of that nature. So what I'll do, if you guys are comfortable with it, I'll get with I'll get with Aaron, and we'll we'll bring forward a series of solutions, if you will. And then you can give it the thumbs up or the thumbs down about whether or not it's a
But for the time being, you guys have a runoff election. So is the intention to enforce what we currently have?
I think so. Yeah. So
we we have two runoff elections.
I wanna I wanna be really out of here. Like, I I emailed staff several times about this. People putting up signs all over town, like, even old town that just turns into trash. No one's gonna pick them up. Several candidates did that. I think we need to look at that too because staff when I first ran five, six years ago, if you put it in the right of way or you just put it in someone's property or city prep, they pull it up and put it under the stairs. They didn't email you and say, hey. We're gonna pull your sign. They pull it because that's why we have rules. So I I actually would prefer we do the whole Well,
and I suspect a lot
of that was
malicious noncompliance. Like, they're like, oh,
I didn't know I wasn't So we'll we'll do that. Yeah. We'll I'll get with Aaron in the trash. We'll bring you guys a solution. I think you'll be I think you'll all be happy with it.
Yeah. The other the one question I do have, though, is if you would it's fairly easy for us to regulate our our election. Correct. How do we enforce this during the general and the primaries when you have thousand you know, hunt not thousands of candidates. But dozens of candidates with just as many signs and
It's our property.
You'll have so in Grapevine, oh, camped out there, they'll literally have someone in a pickup truck pick them up and put them in the back
of the truck. Yeah. So we'll get it done, though.
Appreciate it. Let's go, Mark.
And I'll be like
And he's here. So thank you all for being here. We have a pretty good agenda item, and we've got some important people that we wanna recognize here before our community. But before we do that, we always start with a prayer followed by the pledge. And so to help us with the invocation, it's gonna be elder James Murray with Bear Creek Bible Church. Thank you, sir. Thank you.
Thank you for your service. Thank you that you call on the name of the Lord, and you do that consistently. I've been a resident here since '98, and that has been a vital part that you take the time to seek God's help. So bless you and thank you in that. Let's pray together.
Father, thank you for your for your word. Thank you for this time. Thank you for these committed members here of our community who wish to serve and do it, as a calling and as an election. And we pray together in this room for this group of people tonight that, as they demonstrate more than, than just a visual godliness, they back it up with their lives in ways that, that commit to the residents of this community. I thank you to be a part of this community as well.
Father, we call upon you for help. We'd really be missed remiss if we didn't, ask you for help because we know of your power. You tell us to seek you, and then we will rely on you. So bless this time now. It's in Jesus' name we pray together. Amen.
Amen. Thank you, elder. If you could please stand for the pledge. Okay. Thank you for that.
Thank you, Elder. Appreciate it. Okay. Next up, we've got under items d one and d two under presentation is to recognize several folks. And we want to start out with recognizing the Keller High School girls soccer team, then we're going to follow that by recognizing the inaugural leadership greater Keller class.
But we're very proud. So we'll start with the high school team of ladies here in the back. We wanna make sure that we invited you to town hall because you all represent our community in such amazing fashion. And and we wanna just thank you for doing that. For those that are in the audience or maybe not aware, the Keller High School soccer team finished runner-up here in this state, and that deserves a round of applause.
And if not, if I'm not mistaken, ladies, I think that was the first time in Keller history that we went to the state championship game. Correct? So this is an amazing team of of of young ladies. We are one of the best things about volunteering and serving in this capacity is being able to recognize our student athletes. And one of the things that we've are always so amazed is not that you guys are exceptional athletes, but that you do take it very seriously, obviously, in the classroom.
And whenever you do represent the community of Keller at these statewide competitions, we're blessed as a city to have a high school and student athletes that really excel, whether it be soccer as we're recognizing tonight, whether it be baseball, whether playing softball, basketball means soccer. I mean, it's an amazing thing that you guys do at at the high school. But what is more impressive to me on a personal level is that when you do go out to these communities and compete, you do so by still adhering and representing the values of the city of color. And and and I hear from folks that go to the games or attend or watch a game and say, Those are impressive group of of young student athletes. And so on behalf of the city, on behalf of the city council, we wanted to thank you for doing that, not just excelling on the field and the classroom, continue to represent our community in such an outstanding way.
So, we're we're proud to recognize you all, as the runner-up here in the state of Texas. That's not an easy task. I know it took a long, long time, long practices, and a lot of sweat and and and tears and blood that went into that, and so we wanna recognize you. So what we normally do, customarily, is we will have the city secretary read everybody's name, including the coaches. Coaches, did you all wanna say anything before we we started recognizing folks? You sure? Okay. I didn't mean to put you on the spot, but what's the as far as juniors and seniors, what's what's the count?
We have eight seniors and then there are Okay.
So I I expect you guys to then come back next year. Is that the that is that the plan for all the juniors? So we're excited. So we'll see you guys next year, I'm sure. What's that? That's awesome. That's awesome. Well, you all made history, and I know you're gonna continue to make history. So we're gonna read the names. As you hear your name, please come on down. We love to shake your hand, and then what we'll do is we'll take a big family photo at the end. So stay here in the back if you don't mind. So Kelly, will you help us with that?
Adelina, Ava I, and Ava j. Betsy Billy. So is Betsy here or Billy? Cam? Camille?
Caroline. Claire.
Ella. Ellie.
Emma. Juliana. Hayden.
Holly.
Kalia. Caitlin. Kendall. Lee Pritchard. Lee Thompson.
These ones not here.
Okay, wait, no.
We're not not here. Okay.
Lila. Mariela.
Makayla.
Paxton. Riley.
Sawyer.
Sophia. Tatum.
That's a lot of y'all. Oh, man.
Okay. Now we're going to
do Jade Garcia, who's the student trainer.
Student trainer's not here?
Okay, all right. Coach Cotrell. Trainer Camden Phillips. Coach Malia Jones. And head coach Jeff Simpson.
Okay. We're gonna try to maybe I'll go back here.
Room. Before you leave, could
you take these for the
you may go ahead and drop.
Well, I'll hold over for your pictures. So
before we recognize the team, we did leave out a group of people. I can attest as a coach of a four year old little girl soccer team with two older girls in girl soccer. The parents in the audience deserve a big round of applause for leading your kids all the way to state.
That's that's why he's the mayor elect,
you know. It's just know, you're thinking.
Alright. Let's definitely scooch in. Find a window. See, these girls
are trained. They know how to do the little squat. Perfect.
Parents, have anyone need some questions?
Awesome. Good job, ladies. Parents, are you guys good? Are you good with the photos? Okay. You only get to do this once. So you're good? You're set? Okay. Alright. Well, thank you, ladies. Appreciate you all. We'll see you next year. Thank you. Ladies,
any of y'all going to Texas A and M? Any of y'all gonna be Aggies? No? Oh, two. Okay. Just checking. Thank you.
Thank you all. Okay. Awesome. We're very proud of them. So next item, d two, and that is to recognize the inaugural leadership greater Keller class.
We have a colleague here in our councilwoman, Karen Brennan, who was a part of that class. And so we've asked Karen to see if she could kinda give us a little overview of the program and and, we wanna recognize the folks that were part of that class as well.
Alright. So thank you everybody for being here. My name is Karen Brennan and I was one of the people on the steering committee for the inaugural Leadership Greater Keller Program. So other city chambers of commerce have similar programs that are leadership programs for people that live in the community that are interested in having more of a leadership role in the community. And what it is, is they take training, once a month we meet and we do something civic oriented.
So we had a state day where we drove down to Austin and did all the things in Austin and met with people that represent us there. We had a city day where we got to simulate an actual city council meeting and talk about issues that the city deals with. We've had non for profit day, we've had economic development day where we developed or went out and visited the Hillwood property up in Alliance, which is amazing by the way, if you guys have never done that. And then part of the project for the people in the class is to develop a project, to come up with a project. And the project that they decided to come up with, I gotta look on my notes because I'm gonna say the numbers wrong, is a 501c3, I sometimes say five zero three c one, so five zero one c three, basically not for profit foundation for the chamber, that they're gonna, they basically did all the work to establish what that looks like, what the ground rules look like, and how to get it started, and that was their project.
And so, I just like, we wanna take a chance to recognize them. I'd like to first give special recognition to somebody that's become a a really good friend of mine. It's the woman that really kind of was the genius behind the scenes, and she basically steered us steering committee people, because we need the steering sometimes, and guided the class all along the way. Steering committee, we met for a year, and the program lasted I think about eight months, maybe something like that. So it was a long term commitment, and I think that they're gonna contribute great things to our community, and we wanna recognize them.
So first I wanna recognize Mary Garcia. So I'm gonna read the certificate. Mary Garcia, I'm recognizing her for her outstanding leadership and initiative in founding the inaugural Leadership Greater Keller program. Through her vision and dedication, Mary worked with the steering committee for over a year to develop monthly training and community leadership. She served as an active leader with the inaugural class, guiding participants as they develop their class project and participated in the training sessions. Her commitment in cultivating civic engagement and developing future leaders has made a lasting impact on the Keller community. So I'd first like to recognize Mary. You wanna come up?
Nicole Archer. Suzanne Benatar. Allen Bentrup. Amy Brown. Ayesha Buchanan.
Cheryl Fletcher. Denise Gray. Vanessa Herrera. Mary Lent. Natanya McClay.
Elda Rata. Angie Strollo. Brianna Trimble. Braden Van Meter. And Rachel Walker.
You'll fit.
Okay. Next item is item e. This is persons to be heard. This is time for the public to address city council in any subject. However, the Texas Open Meetings Act prohibits city council from discussing issues which the public has not been given three business days notice. Issues raised may be referred to city staff for research, possible future action. Each speaker is allowed three minutes to speak. Do we have any folks? I know that there are folks that signed the public comment form. So Preston, Adam, I think you guys are with item three and four. We'll wait till we get to those items, if it's alright. And then let me see here. H two, we've got several folks that wanna speak under that one. Correct? That's a public hearing, so we'll hear it then.
So other than the ones that we have here listed, anybody who wants to speak under the persons to be heard? Okay. Then if not, we'll move on with the agenda and recognize item G1, old business. Consider resolution approving a supplement to the public highway at grade crossing agreement with Union Pacific Railroad Company for the Keller Hicks Road Improvement Project for the Public Works Department. We still do consents? No. I'm kidding. Consent items f one, f two, f three. Thank you. I forgot that.
Consider approval of the minutes for the Tuesday, 04/21/2026 regular city council meeting. F two, consider resolution approving a contract amendment to a professional service agreement with Baird Hampton Brown out of Fort Worth. That is for the purpose of providing engineering drainage review services relating to the development, applications for Public Works Department. And then the third final item, consider resolution approving the purchase of irrigation system parts and components for central control system from Longhorn Inc out of Dallas and that is through the
interlocal purchasing co op. Mayor elect? Thank you, mister mayor. Motion to approve consent items f one through f three.
Thank you, sir. Councilman Duberleaf?
Yeah. I second. I just wanna add for those listening that the city is looking and doing their digital irrigation smart controls for the rest of the city as well to help save money. So thank you, staff.
Any additional discussion? No. We'll take a vote. Okay. So those consent items are approved. Now G1, consider resolution approving a supplement to the public highway at grade crossing agreement with Union Pacific. Alonzo, we got a presentation.
Mayor, councilman, members, Alonzo Lignan, public works director. What's before us this evening is a supplemental agreement to an original agreement that was made with Union Pacific in May '23. This is related to the Keller Hicks Roadway project in conjunction with Fort Worth and specifically the railroad crossings since that's in Keller. As a got the wrong controller. As a reminder of where we're at, we've got Keller Hicks going East West, Katy North South, that intersection is actually in Fort Worth.
And then we have the at grade rail crossing just to the east and that's all in Keller. More specifically, what we see here is that the boundary between Fort Worth and Keller is on the East Side Of Katy. As a reminder to those who always are wondering about that boundary line, the road itself belongs to Fort Worth. Keller, we assumed, municipal oversight at the right of way line East of Katy. And so everything that you see here is what is was done in Keller.
We have a retaining wall. We have some drainage work, sidewalk that was installed, and roadway that was reconstructed. That was reconstructed specifically to accommodate the drainage underneath the roadway as well as to maintain the quiet zone that is there. And you have to meet certain standards in order to comply with both FHWA and the Federal Rail Administration to not sound the horns. So as I mentioned earlier that this is a joint project with Fort Worth.
Fort Worth is the project manager. We were, subsidiary to that. This project was initiated over fourteen years ago and has just recently been completed. The interlocal, as I said, was signed in '23. That interlocal agreement committed, the city to 213,000, almost just short of $214,000 for UPRR work. That includes real estate costs, signal work, and roadway surface work.
It is
important to note that while Union Pacific and their stories are endless how difficult some agencies can be, Union Pacific actually was working with us and had offered at the very front end of that to cover half of the surface roadway. However, the caveat to the agreement was that even though these are best guesses, best estimates upfront, the city is still committed to paying what it actually costs. And that's why the supplemental agreement is before us this evening. We are very close to the end of this. The roadway is done.
The project is all but finished. Union Pacific is just wrapping up the last of their invoicing, which requires us to settle up the agreement. The second column is the estimate of what was originally anticipated. What actually got billed is that second column. And you can see the delta, and the biggest delta is that $80,000 overspend on surface work.
Why was there an overcharge on surface work? It's because the road was raised, quite simply. And get you to be a little bit of an engineer today. We've got looking at a set of plans, a plan view as if you were overhead, and then a profile view as if you were to cut the land in half and just look at like a sliced apple. What we're seeing here is that the dark line is the final grade.
This dash line is the original grade. Because we were running the drainage underneath it, We couldn't go back at the original grade, so we ended up raising the road about four or five inches right where the railroad cross arm comes down. Therein is where the rub came in. The manual of uniform traffic control devices for Texas is the manual that dictates how we treat different traffic control devices specifically included in that are railroad crossings, railroad cross arms, etcetera. One of those requirements is that the cross arm has to be between three and a half to four and half feet above the roadway surface. Not a
problem
yesterday. Today, however, because the road was raised about four inches, we then broke that barrier of three and a half feet, which necessitated additional cost on Union Pacific side to adjust the arm mechanism. It wasn't enough just to say, well, let's just have it not come all the way down, use the bent arm. There are several things that they have to comply with as well to make sure it's on there. It became an additional signal work that was unanticipated, not part of the original.
What is before us this evening is a recommendation to proceed, with the supplemental agreement as written that authorizes up to a 104,000. I have reached out to Union Pacific. And while we don't have final invoices at this time, we believe that that is going to be closer to 85,000 to $90,000 all said and done. But we don't know that until we get the final invoices. This is the supplemental agreement to to ir business. And then get of doing.
Quick question, And Alonzo. I meant to ask you a during work session. Have we actually contacted Union Pacific outside of the normal channels of communication with their direct staff, with either their government relations team or someone at their C suite level to ask for a reduction in the bill. Because, I don't know, looking at it from a non engineer's perspective, anticipating that the road needs to be raised doesn't seem to be a hard thing to anticipate. And so the overage here, and that was, I think, the follow-up from last meeting was that we were hoping to reach out to their team. I didn't know if you had, had any luck, though.
So we were able to reach out to the professional staff. We were not able to, coordinate with the, you know, city liaison, at that level. However, we were able to compare all of our notes of invoices, what what was, applied to the city, what's been charged, what's been paid, and we're able to clean that up considerably. Again, this has been fourteen years in the process and a lot of invoices to go through. We believe we made progress, But to specific your answer or to your question, answer is no, not at that level, but some headway was made.
So we have not asked for a reduction yet?
It was the reduction in that the invoices were corrected.
But did we ask them to reduce their bill?
Okay. Personally, I would, you know, after talking about it in a work session, be very much inclined to table this item again so that way we can true up the numbers and then actually contact them again and ask them for a reduction.
Very well.
That's just me being one of six here tonight.
Like to make the motion?
Yes. I'll do a second to see if we can save more money. Okay. So we got
a motion and a second. Any discussion?
Yeah. One question. If we table and it passes, how long do you think would it be the next council meeting or would we need one more until June?
It will depend on when Union Pacific gives us their final invoicing.
Aaron, any thoughts on when we should table it to? June. What's our first meeting in June?
June 2.
June 2? June 2. We will
give that message to Union Pacific that we won't ratify the supplemental until we know what the final number is.
Okay. Then I'll make a motion to table item g one until the June 2 regular city council meeting.
Okay.
And then I'll second again. And thank you, Alonso.
Alright. So I got a motion to second that can table this matter. We'll go ahead take a vote.
All right.
So we're tabled till the meeting in June. Next item under h one, public hearing considered ordinance approving amendments to the city of Keller. Code of ordinances. Chapter 12, Parks and Rec, section 12 dash one six zero by adopting the annual youth program standards of care.
Hi. Renee Saddle. I'm the recreation supervisor at the Keller Point. I'm asking you to consider this ordinance so that Keller Point can maintain their exemption from day care licensing. We need this because we offer two months of full day summer camps to our Keller families.
Never run this mouse right. Which
maybe you do it right. Oh, I thought
I did. Oh, thank you so much. Alright. I'm really good with kids, not so much with technology. I'm asking that you do adopt this for us because this will allow us to serve our killer families, and, it also has several requirements that we actually exceed.
Our staff training is for two weeks, and we exceed the minimum requirements, of the state. And some of those things that we exceed in are that we require all of our counselors to be swim tested. We also require our coordinators be lifeguard certified. That's something that the surrounding cities, don't do, so we're really proud of that. We also partner with Keller PD, and officer Fee just comes over and does extensive training with us through safety protocols such as fire drills, tornado drills, and then code Adam drills as well.
The city of Keller HR department, drug screens, and background checks, all of our staff. And as far as minimum requirements from the state, as far as staffing ratios, the state requires one to 15. We actually take that a little bit further and go one to 10. So we have one counselor for every 10 kids. We feel that that is a safer environment, so we like to exceed what the state requires.
And then also, we have started last year, and we will do it again this year, including meals as part of our day, and that's to prevent any campers from being dropped off without meals. So we wanna make sure that every camper that we have is fed. We know that our parents are super busy and sometimes those mistakes happen where lunches aren't sent with them, and so that's something that we have added in addition to what the state requires for us. Basically, from there, we are asking for the exemption because it is most appropriate for our facility. It would be fiscally difficult for us to be a licensed day care facility because it would require significant structural changes to the Keller Point.
Do you have any questions?
Okay. Any questions, counsel? Councilman Dobberley?
Yeah. Thank you for all this. And I know think we do this every year, but just to be and it was on the slide, but just to be clear, we're doing background checks on all the
Yes, sir.
Employees that work with the kids. Right?
Yes. Everyone our counselors are required to be 18. Any employee at the Keller Point that is 18 and older is background checked and also drug screened.
Perfect. Thank you. Councilor Moawatley?
Thank you, mister mayor. Motion to approve h one. Oh, actually, I guess motion to close public hearing.
Yeah. Sorry. Thank you. Councilwoman Brennan.
I second. Thank you.
Alright. Got a motion. Second to close it. Should ask real quick. Nobody wants to speak on this item. Correct? Okay. Alrighty. And then councilman Wally, you've got a motion.
Thank you, mister mayor. Motion to approve h one as presented.
Councilman Brennan.
And a second.
Alright. Take a vote. Right. Thank you.
Motion is
before that. Item is approved. Next item, H2, public hearing. Consider ordinance approving an SUP for Amazing Hair Salon located at 112 West Hill Street. This is a public hearing. We'll hear the presentation first.
Thank you, mayor. Good evening, counsel. I have the aerial and zoning maps. The subject property is zoned Old Town Keller. Little bit of background on this request, the applicant has operated in this location before.
In June 2019, they obtained a certificate of occupancy for their However, the hair salon then closed in April 2024. Also adopted in March 2024, the UDC now requires that a specific use permit is now required to operate a spa in the Old Town Keller zoning district. Amazing Hair Salon will offer a variety of grooming services including hair cutting, washing, and styling. All services will be by appointment only. Their hours of operation are Monday through Friday, 10AM to 8PM, Saturday, ten to seven, and Sunday, ten to five.
Here is a look at the exterior and interior of the proposed space. These photos were provided by the applicant. As mentioned, the salon will occupy an existing building that is approximately 500 square feet. No interior or exterior structural modifications are expected at this time. However, the applicant does intend to enhance the space with new paint and other cosmetic updates.
The UDC parking requirement for this use is three spaces. All parking in Old Town is shared and there are at least four spaces immediately adjacent to the salon space. Brief look at the surrounding land uses. To the north, have Old Town Keller mixed use, as well as to the East and south, and then to the West, you have Old Town Keller in semi public, parking spaces. The subject property is zoned Old Town Keller and is, designated next to use on the future land use plan.
On April 2, we mailed out 26 letters of notification for this public hearing to all property owners within a 300 foot buffer of the subject site. Staff has received two emails of opposition in response to this request, which was included in your agenda packet this evening, but is not shown on the buffer map. At the April 14 Planning and Zoning Commission meeting, the commissioners unanimously recommended approval of the SCP request as presented. Section 8.02 F2A of the UEC states that when considering an SCP request, the city council shall consider the following. Whether the use is harmonious and compatible with surrounding existing uses, the activities requested by the applicant are normally associated with the permitted uses in the base district, the nature of the use is reasonable and appropriate in the immediate area, Any negative impact on the surrounding area has been mitigated and that any additional conditions specified ensure that the intent of the district purposes are being upheld.
Again, the request for you this evening is a specific use permit to operate a spa in the Old Town Keller Zoning District. The council has the following options when considering this request, approve as submitted or with modifications, table or deny. Staff and the applicant are here if you have any questions.
Perfect. Thank you. I do have two folks. Morgan, is it Bianchi? Okay. Then followed by Carrie Moon. So Morgan, go with you first. If you don't mind, ma'am, just again, just for the record, just your name and address. Morgan
Bianchi, and I'm at 126 Taylor Street. So my concern is not with the business being a hair salon, but more so the land use. The city has communicated a vision for Old Town as a vibrant, walkable, and experiential destination that attracts consistent pedestrian activity, supports evening and weekend engagement, and a mix of business that invites the public throughout the day. A salon, by nature, operates primarily by appointment and does not typically generate the kind of walk up traffic, extended dwell time, or evening vibrancy that this specific area is intended to support. Placing a low foot traffic, appointment based business in such a prominent location feels misaligned with the city's own stated goals for the district.
Additionally, Keller already has a notably high concentration of hair salons in and around Old Town Keller. While this does speak to a strong beauty presence, it also highlights a level of market saturation that makes the use of a prime space like this even more important to consider strategically. These high traffic spaces are limited, and their impact on the overall energy and diversity of the district is significant. Residents and local investors have supported the city's vision for a dynamic activated downtown, and decisions like this set the tone for whether that vision is gonna be upheld in practice. I respectfully am asking that the council consider whether this approval reinforces the kind of downtown experience that's been promised and whether this prime location should be reserved for businesses that more directly contribute to the energy, accessibility, and walkability that the city is committed to building.
Thank you. Thank you, ma'am. Mr. Moon? And then after Carrie, is there anybody else that wish to speak under this item? Okay.
Good evening, mayor and council. Addresses subject for this property are 124 South Main Street, which is the Keller Chop House, 128 South Main Street, is Keller Tavern, and then 136 South Main Street, which is Shotzi's. Sure. First first, I want to congratulate, and I guess over the last twenty years, I've a chance to work with many members of mayor and council. And so first, want to congratulate mayor elect Ross McMullen, and, congratulations to our cowboy on the council, mister Watley, on your reelection.
I will reach out to, Tag Green privately. I'm sorry I had the chance to not thank him publicly for his years of service, but want to wish him well in his next endeavor. And lastly, Mayor Armen. I don't know if this is your last full meeting or not, but it's been a pleasure with you, to work with you. Specifically, thank you for your your vision and, effort to successfully get a TIF established in Old Town in Old Town Keller, and great work in getting the Tarrant County taxing jurisdiction to participate in that TIF. So thank you for that work. Look forward to having you, at the State Capitol. Want to ask for opposition. I want to state my opposition for this property. And it has nothing to do with good neighbor.
It's really just not the highest and best use for this property. You'll see a lot of good things happening in Old Town Keller. Specifically around this, you've had other businesses come into Old Town Keller that injected millions of dollars into their businesses. You had Grotege Bistro, you've got the Kindred, you've got Wobby House, businesses that are willing to come to Keller and invest millions of dollars into millions of dollars I'm I'm sorry, millions of dollars in capital and then generate millions of dollars in taxable sales. And those are the kind of businesses that we're looking for.
On Block 5, we have two new businesses coming in Southern Seoul And Co, which a business that will do that's paying $40 a square foot for a 900 square foot building. They'll do over 700,000 a year in sales. You've got the Taco and Tequila Bar coming that will do 1,000,000 in sales. At 224, you've got three new businesses coming, three suites, two already have LOIs, and the lease price for those are $50 a square foot. To put that perspective, Starbucks on the corner of Block 1 pays $30 a square foot.
So you can see our elevated rents that we're getting because we've got to cover the higher cost of construction and interest rates tied to the commercial development. But there's just so much more that can be done with this property. And I will reach out to the tenant through some mutual friends. I'm charging my neighbor to some mutual friends and try to get them some help on marketing the property for lease. Block 2 is your highest restaurant sales in all of Keller.
There's tremendous traffic there. Thank you for City Manager Aaron and Alfonso for recently getting us four new parking spots, just in the last twelve months. And those are valuable parking spots because we are filling up those parking spots. And so it's really just hoping that we can bring a tenant in there who would inject capital, would come that would put money into it for a facade improvement, apply for this facade improvement grant and have you all and just bring more sales to Old Town Keller.
Thanks, Harry. Anybody else wish to speak on this item? Okay. If not, we'll close the public hearing. Councilman Darberley?
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I move we close the public hearing on item H2.
Thank you, sir. Councilwoman Brennan?
I second.
Second. Take a vote. Alright. So public hearings closed. Is the applicant here by chance?
Yes. Okay. No worries. No. We just wanna see if you're there in case anybody's got questions. Did you wanna add anything to the application or to the presentation, I mean? Okay. Alright. Councilwoman Brennan.
Okay. So I have a question for the applicant. If you don't mind coming up here, please. Thank you. Hi.
There, how are you? You could put the I microphone have hearing aids, I have a terrible time hearing. So you opened up your salon originally in June 2019 and you were there for, I guess, until 2024, so five years. And then you're not there anymore and then now you want to come back. So explain that to me, why you chose to close your business after five years and now why you're coming back. What is the story there?
Sure. Well, first of all, I'm the owner of the property there, and I'm the one that is renting it to her. It's just family, you know, options that she pick, you know, to go back. I mean, I have few other business there, which I would never have, you know, an issue on anything. And that's the only reason why she decided to try it out to go on her own and work in a different salon. But now she decided to come back, and I mean, she's a great tenant, and she's, I mean, amazing, you know. So that's what I would like to rent to her.
Thank you. Okay. My next question is for Sarah Hinsley. Sarah, I have a question for you. You can sit down, thank you so much.
Okay, thank Thank
you. I
have a question, Sarah, for you. So how long has this little business been there prior to 2019, this building? The building that the salon is going to occupy?
How long has the building been there? If you give us a few minutes we can do some research.
Okay, yeah, guess what other businesses have been there prior to the salon? Is it that kind of business typically? Or have been other types of businesses there?
We can pull the record for previous CEOs in just a few minutes. We did not prepare previous tenant information though for tonight, so if you give us just a minute, we can come up with that though.
Okay, and so the reason why I'm asking is, is it a type business where food provider could be located? You know, is it set up infrastructure wise so that it could be a restaurant or ice cream parlor or, I don't know, that kind of thing, you know, to fit in to what Mr. Moon had talked about into the dynamic of the area, is that building even up to snuff to be able to house a food establishment?
It'll take us some time to pull the CEO information before this property. But these are pictures of the current state of the property inside.
So the square footage is such that, and I think it's 500 square feet total, so has never to my knowledge, and she's looking right now, been used as a restaurant. So obviously given the size constraints, a full service restaurant would not be a reasonable option. There may be other things that could be an opportunity that don't require a full kitchen coffee bar, maybe something where it's dessert only where you, again, you don't have to have that commercial kitchen.
Okay, all right. And I guess the reason I'm asking and the comment I want to make about this building is, you know, I don't have any problem with a twelfth hair salon in Old Town Keller. I'm a free market kind of person, so let hair salons stay in business, not stay in business, let the market decide that. But to have one right here seems like an odd spot for me. And I know that we talk about that building could be used for other things that fit into the environment of people that are going there to dine, maybe going to the bar, kind of set up an environment like that.
And you have this little building that's a hair salon. I have no problem if that little building is something else maybe that participates or it's part of that environment. But I struggle a little bit with this particular building being a hair salon where it's located. If that hair salon was located across the street, I would not have as much of a problem with it. But in this particular location, I'm gonna struggle with this one. Thank you.
Just to follow-up on your questions, councilwoman. So our historic aerials show that the property has been on that lot since at least 2004, probably as a residence at some point before it was turned over. The first CEO we have in our system was 2014 for retail use. It's bounced back and forth between retail and salon, but those are the only two uses that we have record of.
Thank you.
Thank you. Councilman Dobbly. Thank you, mister mayor.
And I wanna thank you all for wanting to reopen a business in Keller and anyone that looks to do business in Keller. This is a tough vote, and I don't wanna re echo what councilwoman Brennan said, but we're spending tens of millions of dollars or more than tens of millions of dollars in Old Town Keller, and we're looking for experiential businesses and especially that track. I know there's a Harris salon already across in the Waube House, I believe, next to that open lot. For that area and for citizens listening, as we try to kinda shepherd this area and what we're trying to do and more experiential, and we already have salons in the area, I kinda what Councilwoman Brennan was speaking to, we're looking for a thing, not necessarily a hair salon, but I think a yogurt shop would be great there or something to that nature that fits. It's a really unique lot in a sense it's really skinny and how long it goes back.
But for me and for what I think the citizens I've talked to over the last several years and what the vision was in investing in Old Town Keller and what we've really been building towards and putting a lot of thought, staff's put a lot of thought into this too, I think I would be more inclined to support something that would be something to supplement the surrounding restaurants for an evening there, whether it be yogurt. I agree. I don't think it'd be a restaurant spot, but I think you could do like, we had cold waves across the street that didn't have a kitchen. It just had the freezers, and they sold ice cream and things like that. But I think that'd probably be a better fit for this spot, but that's just my thinking.
But I do appreciate you all wanting to invest in Keller, and that's kind of my concern. And I know a lot of the citizens the that I've spoke to over several years as well as the business owners in the area. Thank you. And councilor Mowale?
Thank you, mister mayor. Is the the young lady are you did you say you're the property owner? You own the building? Would would you come back up, please? Thank you very much. Yes, sir. Currently, it's vacant. Right?
I'm sorry?
It is vacant. Does you do not have a tenant in the building? Is that correct?
We turned this this property into commercial. We went through all these because, like, you say, it was residential before, so we turned this part into a commercial property. Just as a we started as a business, you know, we had a little gift shop. That's what it's called Genesis Gift Shop from the beginning.
So So the
But, yeah, I have few other businesses there, you know, after we stopped that and we start, you know, renting it. I start working and grow growing up my kids, so I decided just to be renting it. So we have few other tenants there, like I don't know. It's like it's been a while, so it's it's few of them. Like, we had not for restaurant because we I had a person that was interested in making a restaurant there, but it wasn't approved because it's not that size, you know, in order to build, like, a commercial kitchen kind of because it's small display.
So, it's not going to pass as a restaurant. You know what I mean? It's like Right. Tried that, you know, but it didn't because the space is not big enough for a kitchen and have all the permits that you guys require in order to have something like that there. That's why I've been focusing more like in a family businesses. We have like the cable company. We have another hair rock salon there. So it's kind of like more like family people that want to rent it and they do small things there. Kinda.
Do you have any other tenants or people with ideas of what they want to do with that property?
Not at this time. No. No? No, sir.
And but the last business there was a gift shop?
I think it was the cable company.
A cable?
It Yes. Was a cable company. It was just like just offices kind of for them to have a direction, you know, for their business.
Okay. Mhmm. Alright. Thank you very much.
You're welcome, sir.
Thank
If you want me to just stand nearby just in case there's additional questions. And I have has the city made any efforts or have we coordinated with the owner of the property as far as marketing or seeing who else is out there?
Not for this property, but we can.
Well and have you received any interest specific to this property?
Or Not for this one.
Any businesses that would go into something this size?
I think what's tricky about this one, just for context, it's about the size of the former scooters. So it's pretty small. I think if it were to be some kind of food establishment, it would have to be like a pickup pickup window type business because and I'm just saying this kind of off the cuff. I'm not sure. But I don't know that you would have the space to even have it be people that can come into the building. Maybe just like a pickup window type.
Sure. Yeah. I guess I'll offer my thoughts on this. Where I have a little bit of complication on this one is, I think this is a unique obviously building with the size and the size of the lot itself and also the parking. So in one hand we say we want a business that will attract more foot traffic to the area, but on the other hand we have a parking issue which we all can attest to and admit.
So when you kind of look at free market principles and at the same time kind of contrast that with what's the vision for Old Town Keller, I'd argue frankly that the city of Keller has an exceptional job in Old Town Keller because we've made improvements to the infrastructure to allow the free market to do what it wants to do. And so if we don't approve this hair salon, my concern quite frankly is that I think she's gonna have a vacant building for a very long time, which doesn't help the surrounding foot traffic. What I actually like about your business plan ma'am is the fact that it's by appointment only. And so then, you know, that kinda helps with the traffic concern. It's not empty, so you're gonna have every incentive to make sure that it's upkept and things like that.
So, know, when folks say what's the vision for Old Town, open up your eyes because we've brought a lot of restaurants to the area. We've recruited those to the area, but we haven't dictated what to come and what not to come. We've we've kinda led that through the infrastructure. And I think that's the proper role of government in a situation like this. So I'm for your proposal ma'am.
I don't know if we have enough enough votes for that, but I think yours in particular is a very unique situation that I think needs to be considered because of the size of the lots and everything. It was previously a salon, so the whole salon, whether we had too many or not, I think this is one that, I mean we had it before. And so you just had that one year gap. Am I not wrong, was it one year of a gap there? So I don't have an issue with that. So personally, I'd be inclined to support that proposal. I'll make that motion. So I'll make a motion to approve item, Is it H 2? H 2. Mayor Alec?
Just a quick question. What are the plans to clean up the exterior? There's gonna be a I guess some paint or something was referenced in the application. Do you have any plans to clean up the exterior facade of the subject property, the building? K. Do you mind just isn't you don't have to commit to anything right now, but just kinda at least conceptually, what does that look
If you don't mind, ma'am, coming back to the microphone. Yes.
Well, everything depends, you know, how things going. And, of course, everybody wants, you know, to make place better and everything. So I don't mind, you know, what the cities require me, so I'm gonna be following whatever, you know, they tell me to do. I've been you know, all this time is trying to do all the regulations, all the parking lots, permits, and all that. So, like I say, it's not a big space, so I cannot do too many things on it. So So I don't know what to say.
I'm looking for a creative way to incentivize, you know, kinda where the mayor's going, but maybe the exterior of the building to be a little bit more vibrant looking and inviting. I know we can condition an SUP, Stan. That's why I'm looking at you. I don't really have I don't know how to condition this SUP to get us there. Obviously, we have the Sasada improvement grant program, which is just part of the broader chapter three eighty program.
But for me personally, I would at least appreciate you know, I agree with a lot of what the mayor said tonight. But personally, I would like to see something done with the outside of the building so that way it looks better, for lack of better wording. So if you don't have anything to offer, if you don't have any kind of vision for that tonight, personally, I'm probably inclined to vote no, but I want to support your business. We want to make Old Town Keller vibrant, experiential, all these words. And would you at least be willing to commit to meeting with our economic development team to figure out a way to make it freshen the building up a little bit.
Sure. Yeah.
Okay.
I mean, I'll be more than happy to meet with them and see what improvements we can do and, you know.
Let let me ask you this real quick and I'll unless you have another question. No, that's okay. Let me just ask real quick. Looking at this photo, so for folks to enter your space, do they have to or maybe Steph you can kind of answer this. Is that piece of grass there, is it there or do you actually have an access point other than the grass? So for example, you've got a ramp, right? So if someone that's handicapped, are they rolling their their wheelchair through the grass or is there an entry point?
No. It's on the side for the ramp. Is that
I'm I'm seeing there's grass. So do I need to walk through the grass to get to your building?
From the parking lot? Uh-huh. As you see those parkings, yeah, those are
You have to go through grass. Yes. So I think I don't mind doing this if kind of the direction you're going, Mayor Proton. So is that against code by the way? I'm assuming it is.
Yeah. So we wouldn't approve a building permit that came in like this today, but we wouldn't retroactively enforce current building code on there unless they started wanting to construct sidewalk or something else where they were changing the access to the front of the building.
So, ma'am, what what I'll do is I'm gonna amend my motion to condition it with it being it shouldn't cost you much. All I'm referring to is that piece of grass there that I see in the front. So if you're someone that's, you know, in a wheelchair, you're gonna have a tough time going through that as an example. You have to go through the grass. Right?
So I conditioned the approval with you getting that access point figured out with maybe just replacing it with some sort of concrete pad. What I would do, encourage you as you go through that process to then get with Anna to do what he's referring to as our facade grant improvement, where the city, as long as you participate into that effort, will also help contribute. And the idea is to kind of beautify the surrounding businesses. So because I agree with the mayor pro tem. It's a unique spot, but it needs a fresh coat of paint, things like that. Those are things that we could possibly partner with you so long as you're willing to put skin, that might be where you can put the skin in the game is putting towards paint, but also the entry point. Does that make sense?
Yes. I understand. And I would be more than happy, you know, to to do that because, like I say, I try to do everything what the city tells me to do, you know.
know. This place has been so so many changes and so many things to that, I mean
So you are okay with that in weak condition?
I recently had to build this fence because I had so many issues, you know, with people throwing trash on my back, parking their trailers on the back. But that's maybe another story. I don't wanna to take too much time with you. But like you see, I had to fence all the property in order to make a little privacy for my tenant because there you see where the ramp is? There's even somebody bump into the ramp. Ramp. And it's it's been a lot of things on that little bit.
So let's let's
do this. Let's if you're okay because we've got a long agenda. Councilman Dobley, you have a question real quick?
Yeah. Do.
You go ahead. Go ahead and then I'll I'll rephrase rephrase my motion.
Okay.
I just want to say, and thank you again. And to their point, if this passes, I'd also work to make this ADA compliant. But if this doesn't pass, I would recommend obviously putting this out for market. I think you'd have a lot of people. This is such a jewel in this area of Keller that we're investing in that I think you'd probably have several people that'd be really interested to turn that into a yogurt or daiquiri place, I don't know, whatever. I just think there's a lot of opportunities there in that special spot. So that would flow well. But just wanted to say that, can you put it out there? Thank you.
Okay, ma'am. So I'm going to make a motion to my motion will be to approve the item condition that you address the entry point. And in that, please get in touch with Anna to look at our facade grant improvement project. Is that a proper motion, Stan, somewhat? Okay. Thank you. It's my last meeting, so you're kind of getting it. Councilman Watley? Second. All right. Got a motion to second. Any additional discussion? Alright. We'll take a vote. Okay, ma'am.
So it's three three, the item failed for lack of majority. Is there another motion to recognize? And if not, then we'll move on.
Mayor elect? I I would like the the applicant to have the opportunity if the council's willing to meet with our economic development team before going back all the way through the process because at some point, you're going to need to fill this space. And so if we could give them maybe a month till the June 2 meeting to talk through some of these issues. Because I really do think that if the concept was better defined and more vibrant in nature and more inviting and less of an eyesore, to be quite frank with you, and by then we'll also have a full council. Well, no, not quite.
So maybe we need to go to the June 19 meeting. But is there would you guys be open to tabling the item to give the opportunity for the applicant to meet with our economic development team? That would be my motion would be to table until the, say, the June 19.
Council Is
that the right date?
My Sixteenth. Excuse me. My I can only speak for myself. My concern is more to the zoning is the way we zoned Old Town Keller and what trying to do there. So that, to me that wouldn't work but maybe the other two votes, maybe you could. That's the reason I was voting is more of the zoning and what the vision of Old Town Keller was and hoping maybe to market to something we could put in new there that would fit with the surrounding businesses.
As a point of information, Mr. Mayor Pro Tem, I don't think the sixteenth might work for procedurally because if the election is on the thirteenth, that won't be enough time to notice the canvassing and and seat the new member.
Hey. I like where your head's at. We can go, one meeting further. I just at the end of the day, I hear what you're saying, councilman Dobberle and councilman Will. I just really think it's important because what I don't wanna see is I don't wanna see a vacant building where where there's not engagement between the city and the owner. So I think this is an opportunity to facilitate facilitate that discussion. So what's the July 7? So to your point, councilor, well, if you'd be agreeable to to tabling it, I think that would probably be a healthy thing. Then we don't have to vote to approve at that time, but I just want them to have that discussion personally.
So just to clarify, councilman, to we table it to look at modifying the facility itself or we're going to look at other uses besides a hair salon? What is it we're tabling for? What is the plan of tabling it?
Yes. So we table the item, first and foremost, to figure out if they can do something with a facade. And then second of all, I'm sure with, you know, excellent economic development staff, they'll be having conversations about use as well to see if there is a better use. So it'd actually be both. Okay. Any concerns with that, Anna? No? Okay.
All right. So we got a motion. Councilman Will, your second? I second. All right. Got a motion to second a table. We'll take a vote. Okay, ma'am. So the analyst table, staff will get with you and that we can communicate with them between now and then you can explain kind of what that process looks like. Okay?
Thank you. All right. Third item, public hearing considered ordinance approving a planned development zoning change from commercial and planned development fourteen oh six, single family residential, 36,000 square foot minimum lots to planned development, single family 15,000 square foot lots and commercial for the preserve at Keller Oaks located at 1001 Thousand And 4 And 1008 North Main Street.
Thank you, Bear. I have the area and zoning maps. The subject property is currently zoned s f 36 in commercial. Starting with the proposed concept plan, the applicant requests a planned development zoning change for the preserve at Keller Oaks, which is a proposed 59 residential lot subdivision with one commercial lot and one commercial open space lot. The proposed project is located 300 feet Southeast of the Park Avenue and North Main Street intersection on approximately 39.38 acres with 5.57 acres of open space.
Since the concept plan was submitted with the planned development application, a future detailed site plan will be required, for this development or to go before the planning zoning commission and city council to continue with this development. Again, the property is currently zoned commercial and planned development SF 36. The proposed zoning is planned development single family 15,000 square foot lots and commercial. And then there is a look at the surrounding zoning. The applicant also requests a FLOP amendment to change the land use designation from mixed use, medium density, and low density, single family to medium density single family and retail commercial.
That will be on item H four. Looking at the proposed development standards, the planned development will mostly conform to the single family 15,000 square foot regulations written in the UDC with some exceptions, and so I have those compared here. So, for example, the minimum lot width for both typical and lots on a curve or cul de sac is less than what is required by the UDC. For the minimum lot width of typical lots, they are proposing 96 feet minimum, whereas the UDC requires a 105 feet minimum. And for those cul de sac lots, the minimum would be 80 feet instead of the required 90 feet.
Same with the lot coverage, both for the main building and total. For main building, you have 45% in lieu of the 35% requirement and for total, have 55% in lieu of the 50% requirement. There are also proposed exceptions for the front and side yard setback. The UDC requires SF 15 lots to have a 30 foot front setback and 40 foot front setback when the lots have frontage along a cul de sac. The planned development is proposing it to be 30 feet regardless of whether it is along a cul de sac or not.
And then for the side yard setback, they're proposing a minimum eight feet, with minimum separation between structures to be 16 feet, and the minimum side yard on a corner lot adjacent to a street shall be 15 feet. This is different than the UDC requirement, which is 10% lot width not to exceed 15 feet. For homes in the subdivision, the applicant proposes a 100% masonry, which includes brick, stone, or cement just siding on the front elevations. All other elevations will be comprised of a minimum of 80% masonry, which aligns with the requirements of the UDC. Additional standards related to the roofing, garage, and driveway materials for these homes was included in the proposed development standards and is in your agenda packet this evening.
For landscaping, they also request an exception. All front yards shall be fully landscaped with a minimum of either two minimum three inch canopy trees or one minimum three inch canopy and two cal and a two inch caliper understory tree and 10 shrubs. So they're requesting some flexibility there to have homes with either something that meets the UDC or meets the planned development. Those canopy trees shall be a minimum of three inch caliper in at installation and shall be chosen from the list of tree species in the UDC. The applicant also proposes a maximum height of two and a half stories or a maximum of 35 feet for the main building on the of these homes.
They also included a standard that homes on lots 41 through 50 of the concept plan shall be restricted to a maximum height of 35 feet and restricted to only one story. That was the condition put after the applicant had some conversations with their neighbors to the south with Harmison Farms. Multiple areas of open space are proposed. The open space totals 5.57 acres or approximately 16.71% of the residential gross acreage. An HOA shall be required and will be responsible for maintenance of all the open space areas.
The developments open spaces shall be generally landscaped in accordance with the concept plan shown, but a more detailed landscape plan shall be shown with the detailed site plan in the future date and approved prior to final plat approval. Additionally, a five foot sidewalk shall be built along the street frontage of each lot by the home builder or developer, as well as within the open space corridor as shown here. Per the proposed development standards, there will also be a 35 foot tree preservation easement along the back of lots seven Through 18 and a 50 foot tree preservation easement along the backs of lots 57 Through 59, which will be reflected on the final plat. Within this easement, the developer, homebuilder, or future homeowners, shall not be permitted to remove any protected trees. Now looking at the commercial side of the planned development.
The council plan shows two commercially zoned lots, a 3.66 acre lot and a 0.63 acre open space. For the larger lot, the applicant proposes that most uses that are allowed in the commercial and retail zoning classification in the UDC shall be allowed, but will be subject to SUP approval. An additional list of prohibited uses was included in the proposed development standards, and I actually have them pasted here on the slide. And then the open space. According to the applicant, the purpose of this strip is to provide a landscape buffer between the commercial and residential uses.
So you have residential with the Preserve at Keller Oaks PD presented this evening, and then commercial to the south at 950 North Main Street. The UDC requires a minimum 60 foot side yard setback on commercial lots adjacent to a lot zone single family. Due to this, the lot cannot actually be developed and will only be used as open space. And again, a future detailed site plan will have to be approved by the city council showing detailed plans, elevations, building materials, and the proposed uses for the commercial portion of the PD. All fence styles and locations, with this plan development are shown on the wall and fence diagram on the proposed concept plan.
I won't dive into all of it, but the, one exception to the UDC is the masonry fence along the south side of Lot 65. Oh, sorry, Lot 1. I Wrong note there. The UDC requires open style fencing when adjacent to open space. The plan development is proposing a masonry wall there, so that is an exception to the code.
A drainage
and utility plan was provided, but the applicant will be required to provide a full set of civil plans that meets the UDC requirements at a later date. A trip generation form was also provided, but a traffic impact analysis will be required later in the development process. And then the applicant is proposing a main entrance off of North Main Street with connection to Keller Springs Avenue to the North and Homestead Drive to the South. If you watched the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting, in April, you may have seen that there was a emergency access gate proposed at Homestead Drive at the Homestead Drive connection point. That has since been removed from the concept plan after the conditions proposed by the Planning and Zoning Commission.
So, just to summarize the proposed PD standards that differ from the UDC, you have your lot coverage, minimum lot width for both typical lots and cul de sac lots, and landscaping, as well as the front setback, the side setback, the minimum filling size which actually exceeds the UDC and fencing that eight foot masonry screening wall. On April 2, we mailed out 67 letters of notification for this public hearing to all property owners within 300 feet of the site. Staff has received multiple letters of public opinion in response to this request. Letters of opposition have been received from 12 property owners within the 200 foot buffer. The total percentage of opposition from within that buffer is 15.5% as of noon today.
All written public feedback received by staff related to this item has been included in the agenda packet for you to view. As mentioned at the April 14 planning and zoning commission meeting, the commissioners unanimously recommended approval of the planned development zoning change request with the following conditions. That no points of ingress or egress shown on the proposed concept plan shall have an emergency access gate and that 75% of the lots shall meet the UDC standard for minimum lot width in SF 15 zoning. Both conditions were, met with the changes made between that meeting and this evening. Section 8.02 d one e of the UDC states that when considering a zoning change request, the city council shall consider the following factors, whether the use is permitted by the proposed change will be appropriate in the media area, whether the proposed change is in accord with any existing or proposed plants, the amount of vacant land currently classified for similar development in the vicinity, the recent rate at which land is being developed in the same zoning classification as the request, how other areas designated for similar development will be or unlikely to be affected, affected and any other factors which will substantially affect the public.
Again, the request for you this evening is a planned development zoning change for approximately 39.38 acres from commercial and planned development single family residential 36,000 square foot lots to planned development and single family 15,000 square foot lots and commercial for The Preserve At Keller Oaks, a proposed plan development consisting of 59 residential lots, two commercial lots, and approximately 5.57 acres of open space. The city council has the following options when considering this application, approve as submitted, approve with modifications, table, or deny. Staff and the applicant are here if you have any questions. The applicant does also have a presentation they'd like to give this evening.
Okay. Perfect. Let's go ahead and hear the presentation. And then Adam and Preston, I've got your cards here, but we'll just make it part of the presentation.
I'm sorry?
We've got your cards here to speak, but I'm assuming they'll be part of your presentation. Yes, Okay, perfect.
All right.
Yes. Also, Sue and Anne, the landowner, will be
with Yes. Us as pull them.
Good evening, Mayor elect, members of staff, thank you for the opportunity to present to you tonight. My name is Adam Buchek. I'm the president of the Scorporate Company. Our office address is at 8214 Westchester Drive, Suite 900, Dallas, Texas 75225. Very privileged for the opportunity. We have a great, presentation, a project for your consideration this evening, that comes before you with their unanimous recommendation of approval from your, Planning and Zoning Commission body. Short presentation, I'm going to jump into that. And then after I go through this, I'll turn it over to our property owners for some closing remarks. Do I just click the mouse button to pull this up?
one's ever accused me of being technologically advanced. Okay. So the project is proposed to be called the Preserve At Keller Oaks that you're, I'm sure, very familiar with this project. It's been before the city a couple of times before us in the last couple of years. But we've improved on this significantly, I think. I hope you agree, from those prior applications. First, I know we're we haven't been to the city of Keller since probably 2009, maybe 2010. So we're a fairly new face. It's been a long time since we had the opportunity. We're a privately owned company.
So I'm going give a little background on our company for those who don't know us. We'll talk about the development itself, and then we'll show some representative product that we have in store for you and then our closing remarks. We've done over 130 projects in Dallas Fort Worth. We're all a Dallas Fort Worth Group Metroplex. We're from Van Alsteen to Midlothian to Argyle and Willow Park to over to Rockwall and Fateh Row City, pretty much every city in between over the last twenty plus years since I've been with the Squirrelbrook Company.
We've developed over 7,000 lots, and we currently have about 30 active municipalities right now. We're we do jewel box communities where we do projects that add value and sustain and hold and increase value over time. We've been in business since the mid-80s, but in terms of what we are today, we've been really cranking since the late 90s. Some example projects in Lakewood Village, we've got a project called North Shore with David Weekley Homes, building in the around 800 to 1.2 plus on some 57 acre tract, 120 lots on 8,100 foot wide lots. This is a big project in Rockwall called Quail Hollow.
We had Shattuck Homes. Windsor Homes is our building company, by the way. It's our sister company that's our that we own. And then Highland Homes as well. This is a project that's very similar, more like to this project. It's called Winding Creek and Rockwall, and those are 16,000 plus square foot lots. And those are Windsor Homes and Shattuck Homes. So like I said, we're committed. The types of projects that we do are high price points, high value, sustained and they hold their value and are looking to bring this project, to preserve to Keller to complement the existing environment and the envelope, that the city already has. The property, again, North Side Of Harmonsen Road, East of 377 Main Street, it's about 40 acres total.
The existing zoning, the S is SF-thirty 6 on the East Half, which and then you've got the mixed use commercial district on the Western Half. I would like to point out that this property the existing zoning of that 36,000 was put in place on the property when it was annexed in the early 1980s. It's actually never been brought forth for a zoning for this piece of land for a deliberate use. That's just when it and so this is the chapter from the UDC when the city annexes property. It just brought this in as a holding zoning.
So I don't want it to be, we read the letters, we saw the opposition letters that were coming in and concerned about downs. Well, no one's actually ever brought this property in before council to be zoned for anything else. It was annexed as that, and it's been held at that since the early eighties. You can see from the future land use plan, can see that the western half portion or third or so of mixed use zoning, which provides opportunities for mixed use retail commercial office and so forth In medium density single family, which would be 15,000 square foot lots to 36,000 square foot lots, is the other component of the land use. On the far east side, there's a little fragment, I don't know if I can point to it or not.
Let's see if it shows it. It doesn't really it's the if I click this, will it show a little red dot or something? Results we'll see the business. Is just really a cleanup item, just the property boundary just had that little clip over here. So we're cleaning that up as well.
We're proposing to have our commercial right here, it says 4.4 acres, that includes the strip down here for the required buffer for the UDC as well. So you're actually about 3.66 acres here usable of the retail and the frontage, which is the most valuable portion of that property for a commercial use.
How deep is that? While you're there, how deep is that commercial? Yes, sir. I'm sorry? Do you know how deep Oh, that commercial
it is is it 300 feet? 300 feet. And this is not an afterthought with this plan, by the way. We've engaged retail consultants, and we'll show that into the slide here shortly. We've got a couple of footprints for some we're thinking more like a moderately priced type of restaurant uses, and we've got a couple of layouts.
But the way this PD is written, it will have to come back before the council for an OSUP, for P and Z and council as well for any to make sure that the type of commercial that would go here would be suitable and to the city's liking. So you have that control with this PD. We're also, by the way, putting in the infrastructure upfront with the residential, with this jointly used retention pond with fountain and entryway, that and the drainage features for that, that's going to make the commercial plug and play. So we're fronting that with a single family development as well. So we've been very much we had a big financial incentive to make sure that, that commercial was done correctly.
Future land use plan goals. Number one, restructure residential land use categories. Two, provide a mixed use land use category. I'm not going to read all the details. These are the three the four main goals that we looked at in studying the future land use plan to make sure that we're checking all the boxes. We feel like this proposal does do that for us and for the city. When we went to the Planning and Zoning Commission on April 14, we did receive a unanimous recommendation of approval. There were some conditions, both of which have been incorporated into this plan. They wanted a minimum of 75% of lots to adhere to the base zoning minimum lot width. So what that basically says is only 14 of the 15 lots from staff's slide you saw that we asked a variance for the lot width.
Only 14 of the 15 line lots can be narrower than the standard, so 75% lots have to meet the UDC. And again, we're only doing that because we want deeper backyards, the way this lot is this property is configured. So we have deeper backyards and exceeded the UDC requirements, and people typically like a deep backyard more than just a wide and shallow lot. Remove the emergency access gate. We did have an emergency access gate off, to the south, our neighborhood to the South Harmonson. And just for the record, we are happy to do and follow the wishes of counsel's preference on that. We've told our neighbors we are happy to have both gates gated. We've seen examples of this in Northeast Tarrant County all over the place. We can do this here. 377 is a great access point.
But, at the same time, we can't and don't have the authority to grant ourselves a variance to the UDC. So if it's not the council's wishes to have, both of those access points gated, we are so inclined to do that. If you want one of them gated, and so we have the two, one gated and one ungated, that's fine. If you want them both open, which is what the PNC commission said they wanted, we went with that. But just for the record, for the folks here tonight, we are keeping to our word and our commitment that we are happy to do have them both gated.
But if the city they understand from the conversations we've had with the neighbors that it's up to the city with respect to that item. Here's our concept plan against 59 lots, and there's a 3.66 acres of net usable commercial area that's 300 feet deep. And so, as I mentioned, there are 19 specific prohibited uses that cannot be used to ensure that the future commercial development will be compatible and harmonious with the high value single family homes that will be part of this development. We're putting in the open space drainage area and the detention and fountain feature upfront
with all
that landscaping upfront. So it will be a turnkey piece of commercial with a single family development. We do not have a commitment of a commercial user at this time, but we just want to let you know that upfront. But when it is thoughtfully designed, we made sure we've got depth to receive quality restaurant type of businesses with plenty of parking. Here's one of the concept site plans that we had prepared.
Here is if you did one larger 20,000 square foot plus or minus building, it would have two points of ingress, egress, use the existing drive, one off of 377 and also coming off of Harmonsen Road. And here's an alternative solution as well if we wanted to have two, if the user ended up wanting to have two separate 8,000 square foot buildings. Trails and open space. The yellow bold line is the five foot concrete HOA maintained trail sidewalk throughout the property that connects the residential to the commercial site. So you have that connectivity a pedestrian standpoint, north and south and east and west.
It also connects out to the city trail off to the east. Our fencing exhibit, as Steph already showed you, conforms to the UDC. The only request we're asking is just because of the this first lot, lot 1, when you come in, we just want to continue that masonry wall around that lot. This is a rendering of that entry feature, the entry statement as you come in off of Harmansen, along the commercial. And it will be sort of the retentiondetention for both the single family and the commercial.
Compatibility with surrounding properties. So we've got Greenway Park to our North, Harmonso Farms to our South. The average lot size for the 15 lots abutting us on the North Greenway Park averages 22,744 square feet. Our average lot size for our contiguous adjoining lots is 20,807, so within 10%. And if you consider the fact that we have 85 to 105 feet outside of those lots with tree preservation buffer easement, we'd actually be right on par with them.
But we want to make sure that those trees are preserved, and so we have them in HOA maintained open space landscape buffer. And so that creates that open space that will be there forever for the neighbors to enjoy. Also, Greenway Park homes on those lot have a 15 foot landscape buffer. So when you add that to our 50 to 70 feet of open space between what we're providing plus Greenway Parks and then we have our 35 foot wide tree preservation, that's how you get to the 85 to 105 total feet of open space that will be preserved between these homes. But we still even net of that, we were at a 20,800 plus square foot average lot size, net of that open space on the North.
This is just an aerial showing how beautiful those trees are. It's a very thick area of trees worthy of that preservation easement. And this is just a, again, another illustration rendering. In terms of compatibility with Harmanston Farms on the South, those lots are averaged they're 12,000 square foot minimums. Those lots, 28 to 34 is what they average.
Our average lot size of Buddington is about 30% bigger. We're 16,831, so we're much larger than our lots on the South. And there were several commitments made from the prior applicant from meetings with the neighbors that we learned about, and we made sure that he continued to maintain all of those commitments in this PD as well that they spent a lot of time working on and hoping that they could get. So we certainly fulfilled and we're happy to keep those previous promises in our PD. So these are some dates we met multiple times with the Harmonson HOA neighborhood.
These are the considerations that we've checked the boxes. The only thing I had to put a line through just and then just again for full disclosure for the Harmonson folks is they and they understand emptive and told them right after PNZ that the reason why this gate's not there is because of direction from the commission, but we will reiterate our willingness to do whatever council prefers. And then, so we worked extensively with the neighbor to the south. And then same thing, we had a let's see, this was the oh, the commercial development neighbor. We met him as well specifically and addressed his concerns on these dates, February 5 to March 31.
These were the considerations that we checked from the feedback that we received from him. In Greenway Park, we had e mail correspondence, several phone calls with the builders as well. And we these are the considerations that we changed through the course of this process, talking with our neighbors to the north. So we increased that average lot size from 14,000 from previous applicant to over 17,005 And then we changed it again after further discussions with them to make it to the 18,177 that we're at today. And again, we're over 20,000 on the continuous lots that are immediately adjacent to Greenwood Greenway Park, excuse me.
Their biggest issue remains, as per the letters that you probably have got in your packet, is the whether we gate have a gate connecting our neighborhoods. And again, for the record, we are we reiterate our position on that. We are indifferent. We will follow the council's direction. But our preference would be fine to gate it.
I just want to make we're not we don't want to get that we don't want to be in conflict with the city on that. Representative product. A lot of good examples here, the type of product that's very high quality. And the square footage range will be about $3,000 plus to $5,000 or bigger. We anticipate these homes' base pricing starting at 1.2%, 1.5% plus, depending on options and so forth that the homebuyers elect.
So our pricing is going to be very high value, 7 figure homes. It fits right in when you look at that area between the two communities. We are committed to making this a high quality project so that the city will be proud of for many years to come. I want to before I complete my the closing and turn it over to our property owner, I just want to say that when you read those the citizen impact that you the letters that came in today, the main points there was one point that wasn't even really discussed much, but I'm just going to go preemptive and talk about it. I know there's concern, I understand there's concern about the city of Keller hitting a 50,000 population, that triggers some road maintenance obligations on the city.
The last I could find from the latest census for the city is about 47,500 people. So that leaves about 2,500 of cushion, if that math is project has 59 homes. And the general wisdom with population estimates with homes in our experience from working with all these cities for many years is about 3.25 headcount per home. So if you do that math, you come up with about 190 people. Let's just round up to, say, 200 people.
So that would take about 8% of the residual capacity to stay below the 50,000. I do not believe that the I don't have a perfect crystal ball, but I would be willing to say there's probably not another 11 projects this size in the city of Keller. I've looked for a long time, for fifteen years, haven't been able to have a chance to come back to that there's not a whole lot of land left in Keller to add another 11 projects like this. And I don't think Keller's going to be looking to do anything that's high density as well. So this property owner, my my landowner, this family has owned this property for almost one hundred years.
They've welcomed everybody to this community around them. They were annexed. They were, and I'm not going to steal all their thunder, they'll tell you some more very interesting history on this property. But it's their time to sell the last piece. And I think that this plan, based on what we've learned through this process, from what the prior applicants and the residents have said, we've worked with all of them, the neighbors, the comment about the the tech stock, you know, when we still think that this was 18% of that remaining capacity, I really hope that the city sees this is for the betterment of the city and doesn't put the city at risk for that issue, because we saw a lot of comments about that.
Secondly, that the there was comments about we're going small lots and that we should have 36,000 square feet. That's why I started out by saying this was a holding zoning category. It's been there since the early '80s when it was annexed. So this is the first time that this parcel has been brought forth with a request, and it fits right in harmoniously with the surrounding neighborhoods. And we're not getting those letters about density from the neighbors themselves that are most impacted. The only big issue that the folks that going to be most impacted by this development are North and South, Greenway Park and Harmonsen Farms. It's And about the gates. 90 plus percent of the comments in those cards is about the gates. And we're here to say we're happy to follow their wishes. But if that's not in the best interest of the city from a health safety welfare standpoint and you want to do something different, we'll certainly follow counsel because we respect that.
This is by far the largest lot average project that's been submitted on this property for the city, and it's the lowest density submitted on this property, which is a collaborative teamwork result of all the neighbors, the builders in the area and of course, staff. And those are those are really, in in light of all of that, I just hope that tonight, after you hear my landowner speak, that you will see that this is for the betterment of the city. And it's really a testament to this family who's been here a long time. Thank you very much.
Thank you, sir. Did you say the landowner wanted to speak?
Yes, please. If I may, Sue or Ian, would you mind coming up, please? Or both of you, actually. You and F.
Evening.
Hi. I'm Sue Southrand, 1004 North Main Street, longtime Keller resident. So I really appreciate the opportunity to speak to you all tonight. I come before you not as just a property owner, but I represent a family that's been part of this community for almost ninety years. Our story in Keller began in 1938 with my grandfather.
Devastating fire in Justin destroyed his livelihood, and he and my grandmother made a strategic decision right then, a hopeful decision. Instead of building on family land in Justin, they chose Keller because they believed in this community. They saw the potential of this community, and they were interested in the railroad connection. And so over the next years, they rebuilt their hatchery business, and they hired people from this community. They partnered with these people from this community, and they they encouraged people because my granddad was an entrepreneur.
So over the years, he built the largest single breed chicken hatchery in The United States right here in Keller, and they shipped chickens everywhere. So when they started over though, they also experienced more loss. So while they were in Keller, they had another devastating fire that destroyed that second hatchery. They also buried four children, and so they understood hardship. They rebuilt again in Downtown Keller for the third time, and they did have success.
But through all of that, they were involved in their community, and they welcomed people to this community, all kinds of people, and they volunteered. My granddad was on the first volunteer fire department. I wonder why since he'd already been through two fires. But, he served on the bucket brigade brigade, and he partnered with four h kids. They they they just did so much.
Youth leagues in this community, everything they could think of, they did. After my granddad passed away, as a family, we donated land to the Bordland Cemetery. Over the years, we donated more land to the cemetery to the tune of close to $2,000,000 that we've donated there. Three generations of our family have served on served on the board because we felt like it was important to have a community cemetery that was self sufficient and can minister to people in this community in their times of need. So we've we've worked hard at that.
We've also done nonprofit preschools, Mother's Day Out programs here. We've led four h clubs. We've served in local churches, and we've also raised generations who have gone on to serve as pastors, teachers, musicians, midwives, electricians, chiropractors, and small business owners. And through it all, we have remained committed to one simple idea that community matters. Kelder's community mattered.
That's why we're here today. Since Kelder's first master plan in the eighties, it's been understood by us, it's been communicated to us that this land would be developed at some point. The city's long identified this property as appropriate for residential growth, growth that supports housing needs and strengthens the tax base. In many ways, this request tonight is not a change in direction, but the fulfillment of the city's long standing vision. We've also worked with the city over time to support that vision, Though often contested, the connecting streets on the north and south sides of our property were placed there at the city's request with the understanding that connectivity benefits the broader community.
Those connections are not only logical, they're consistent with what the city has supported in other nearby decisions and what the last city poll shows the residents want. Recently, you approved the connection to Oak Street despite neighborhood concerns, recognizing the importance of a connected street network. We've also approved 8,000 square foot lots at the corner of Johnson And Main Street, which is an area that's very similar in character to the front of our property. So because you know, you've seen this, our we run along North Main Street, thousands of cars along there, active railroad corridor. It's it's loud.
It's noisy. And so we feel like it's it's fundamentally different from the neighborhoods off Pearson, which are quiet and tucked into the heart of Keller. Because of its location, this property is well suited for the type of residential development that we're proposing. This development is positioned also to serve as a beautiful part of the city's northern gateway, something that past councils have consistently recognized as important. Thoughtful development here would not only meet the need for quality housing, but also enhance the entrance into Keller and create a cohesive transition between the developments already established between us in the North and the South.
As landowners, we wanted to make sure you understand that the realities of maintaining land as it is today have really changed in Keller. The certainty of development has made it difficult for our next generation to build or invest in this property, and a dramatic increase in trespassing has created a real safety and liability concern. It's no longer feasible for us as landowners to maintain agricultural use with large animals. We have so many people that don't recognize a barbed wire fence or a no trespassing sign. We're dealing with that on a pretty regular basis.
And it's not just hopping the fence. People are camping out there. There's a lot of tree cover. We can't monitor necessarily all the way to the back as we like we used to. And then also, you should know that when we were annexed in the eighties, we were promised the sewer. The sewer just came in five years ago. So we're just now to that place of development with the with the infrastructure ready. So we want you to know that we really think that this is the right project at the right time. And just to remember that for nearly a century, our family has invested in Keller, not just financially, but personally, through service, generosity, and a deep sense of belonging. We're not asking as outsiders for an exception.
We're longtime members of this community asking to move forward in a way that aligns with the city's plans, addresses the realities that we now face as landowners, and serves the city future. So we respectfully ask for your support in approving this residential development. We believe it honors our history, meets the present needs, and contributes to a stronger Keller. So I close now by saying thank you all for your service to this community, and thank you for considering this.
Thank you, ma'am.
Good evening.
Good evening.
I'm Anne Burford at 1000 North Main Keller, Texas, and thank you for hearing our perspectives and considering our request tonight. In addition to Sue's story, I'd like to add that in 1845, our great great great grandfather, Peter Harmanson, moved to what was just becoming the state of Texas through a 640 acre land certificate as part of Peter's colony. Texas was badly in need of settlers, and he helped set settle Denton County and served as its first sheriff. In fact, he gave his life defending his community. I can't imagine what he would think of the situation today.
What a stark contrast. Now we have new settlers trying to keep others out with words and letters of opposition. If your decision tonight were based on popular vote, then a landowner would now a landowner now would never have a chance at rezoning because every new homebuilder seemingly wants no change once their home is built. Our property is, in consideration today, it's very similar in size to a property just 2,000 feet to our north, center stage. Both are mixed use designation in the future land use plan.
On this 40 acres, we're not asking for over 400 apartments and 42 single family homes. We're just asking for 59 so that 59 new families can settle in Keller, just 59. Our family has a long history of working cooperatively to support thoughtful development in the area. After my grandfather moved to unincorporated unincorporated Keller in 1938, he purchased about a 120 acres around the original 40. Our family sold the land that is now much of Northeast Oak addition for that neighborhood's development in the late late nineteen sixties.
We sold the majority of what what of the 120 acres for what has become the Harmanzen Farms community in the early two thousands, and it's now a beautiful and valued neighborhood within the city of Keller. Having supported their request for high density, which they enjoy today, how can they have standing in their objections to our medium density request? In addition, during the development of Greenway Parkway, we sold a 1.5 acre triangle portion of our land to improve the overall development of that project. We also granted easements across our property for utilities, drainage, and cul de sac turnaround, elements that were essential to making that development viable. As part of that agreement, the developer and his successors committed with legal documentation to support any future rezoning efforts on our property.
We believe that the current opposition from these parties is inconsistent with that prior agreement. We've also demonstrated our support for neighboring developments in the past. When Greenway Park sought rezoning to allow for 20,000 square foot lots with approximately 1 to $1,200,000 homes adjacent to our property, we supported their request per our agreement with them. And we're in need of closure. Our father passed away over six years ago, and this has been a very, very long journey for us.
We've gone through the process three times, and nobody will ever know or understand what it takes because it's hard. It's not been easy. I'll just leave that there. Throughout nearly a century of ownership, our family has respected the property rights of our neighbors and has made every effort to be thoughtful and cooperative, stewards of this land. Likewise, Scorberg has shown a strong willingness to collaborate with surrounding property owners, including Greenway Park, Hermanson Farms, and the adjacent commercial development.
They've listened carefully, and they have worked to accommodate the request of these people and the concerns that they have. This plan melds beautifully with the existing developments and the roads all around. Just look at it. For these reasons, I'm respectfully asking the city council to support this rezoning request. I believe this project represents a positive and appropriate opportunity for development and will be a meaningful benefit to the city of Killer. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you.
Thank you, ma'am. Okay. Do we have any more from the applicant's point of view? Is there any more on your present decision? Okay. Perfect. Then we'll go ahead and open it up for the public hearing. First up, I've got Mr. Lee Hughes. And then that is followed by Jared Marcus.
Good evening, mister mayor. Good evening. Mister mayor elect, city council, thank you for having me tonight. As I've told you before, my name is Lee Hughes, 9728 Camp Bowie West in Fort Worth. I'm one of the co owners of them the builders.
I built my first home in Keller, Texas in 1986 and also paid the first impact fee paid in Keller in, I believe it was 87, just north of $600 for water and sewer, if I recall right. So, we don't stand before you in opposition to anything this council may have opinions on as far as approving this or disapproving it. We're here just to reiterate one more time. At Buildout, we're gonna have over $80,000,000 in ad valorem tax base in Greenway Park to the north. We respectfully, if you go out there now, this Keller Springs connection point that you're looking at, that's not what's there now.
What's there now is a big beautiful cul de sac. By the way, with a fire hydrant right in the middle of it where you would go through on the connection point. So when you talk about tens of millions of dollars, Councilman Dobberle pardon me, in Keller Old Town, I'm respectful of that because we have the same in Greenway Park. So you have an opportunity to balance this and protect Greenway Park, either leave the cul de sac in place, it meets all the fire standards, emergency ingress, egress or put a fire ingress, egress gate there. That's all we're asking in your consideration tonight.
Whether you approve this or disapprove it, that's certainly a community decision. But leaving what we have there and protecting this ad valorem tax base in Greenway Park, right now we're 2,000,000 to about $2,600,000 $2,650,000 in sales price. We have several residents there now. We have about $12,500,000 in construction as we speak. We have about $14,000,000 pending in pardon me again, in permitting and plans now.
So again, at build out, we're looking at a little over $80,000,000 in ad valorem tax base. We would respectfully just ask you to consider what's right for all the parties, whether it's us, the Scorberg guys who, by the way, are awesome guys to work with. They're wonderful people. Or the Harmsen Farms people. Just look at it as a whole, if you would, and specifically at the Keller Springs connection. Thank you.
Thanks, sir. Jared?
Good evening. Thank you for hearing me. My name is Jared Marcus. I live at 905 Normal Lane. I I believe this is a good project. However, planning and zoning is torpedoed the idea of a an emergency access gate, and that is my biggest concern. I live on Norma Lane. I'm also on the HOA board of directors, and I have had neighbors approach me. We actually had meeting with the previous developer with the neighbors, and it was overwhelmingly evident that the neighbors wanted the gate there. And Skorberg was gracious enough to include the gate in their plans.
Again, it got torpedoed by p and z. The problem I've got with it is Keller Harville Elementary is at 600 Norma Lane at the corner of Johnson Road and Norma. I could just foresee all the traffic that's gonna start flowing in from 377 as a shortcut to get into Keller Harville. About three quarters of a mile to the southeast is Keller Middle School. The high school is just down the road also.
So in the mornings, could see this turning into a real raceway. At the same time, at the east end of Normal Lane, it goes up to the north and turns out to the east, stop sign crosses, Boerland Road and turns into Bancroft. I could also foresee traffic coming in off of 377 circumventing a couple of red light intersections going through our neighborhood to get out to Bancroft. I believe it's gonna create a lot of traffic. The neighbors have expressed the same concerns. And, again, we do support the project, but we would like to see that emergency access gate put back. Thank you.
And sir, real quick, one question. You're talking about the access gate with also the one that the prior gentleman just referenced. Is that the same area that you're talking about?
There's two access gates, I believe, on the development plan. One to the north that connects up with Greenway Park, one to the south that connects into Homestead Drive. Homestead Drive goes to
the Harmison.
it. You're talking It
goes into about Harmison Farms, yes.
Okay. Okay. Thank you, sir. I missed that part. Appreciate it.
Absolutely. Thank you.
I'm sorry, I did have one question for you. I know you're not the applicant. So you said you are the HOA President?
No, no, I'm on the HOA. I'm actually vice president.
Okay. Close enough. You know, semantics. Mayor mayor elect, mayor, it's all the same.
Yeah. At the same time Yeah. I'm really not supposed to speak on behalf of the HOA without their approval. But, again, this is this has all been discussed, and it's all pretty evident what everyone's wishes And
I guess, I'd like to get your point of view and I'm sure there's other residents here. So but speaking in your role as VP, is it your opinion that the HOA in discussions is generally supportive of this proposal with
That gate that you talked about?
Yes. This started with the developer prior to Scorberg. We actually had a neighborhood meeting. We met at our, at our gazebo out next to our pond, invited the residents, and we probably had, I wanna say, 40 residents show up that morning. And these were things there were two, points that came up.
The neighbors that live on Farmview Trail, which is the south border of the project, they were concerned because behind their houses, there's tall retaining walls. Some of them are four or five feet, some of them are eight feet. They were concerned that there was gonna be these big houses just looming over them. So the previous developer agreed to do some changes on the lots adjacent to us. They also agreed when it came up about the emergency gates due to additional traffic.
When Scorberg picked it up, I'm not sure that that was conveyed to them by the previous plans, but we reiterated again. These are things that we talked about before with the neighbors and these are the things that were offered to us. And again, they were very gracious in saying we're happy to put that on the table with the city.
Okay. Alright. Thank you. And I understand, obviously, that's not gonna be a 100% of an HOA. I get that. But I just was curious to get your thoughts.
You can never get a 100 consensus.
Thank you.
Appreciate you. Thank you. Okay. Those were the two cards that I had for persons to be heard. Does anybody else here wish to speak another persons to be heard item? Yes, sir. If you don't mind, just since we don't have a card, just your name and your address for the record. And then, yeah, if you have any interest in speaking, just go ahead and start making your way down. Thank you.
My name is Vijay. 950 North Main Street, Keller, the commercial property to the south of the proposed Coburg development.
Do you mind getting closer to the mic?
Oh, sorry. It's better now?
Better, thank you.
My name is Vijay. I am the owner of the commercial development to the south of this proposed Coburg development. We did meet I did discuss with Preston. We had a couple of phone calls. We had Citi on a conference call with them.
You all have seen my email with my concerns and how it was addressed during the discussions with the Citi staff, and with Preston who's part of the Schorberg development. I'm here just to state for the record the concerns that I brought up about building the two story office buildings in my future phases, and the setbacks that are required to make that happen, and also the landscape buffer that is required. And based on the discussion that I had with the city staff, I just want to state for the record that the city staff did confirm that I could develop a two story building in my future phases, as shown in my current site plan, without any need for additional setbacks or landscape buffers. I'm here just to state what I have heard from the city so that it's on the record.
That's it. Thank You're the property owner to the south, you said? Yes. Okay. It.
Thank you.
Yes, ma'am. Thank you.
again, if you don't mind just name and address. Thank you.
I'm Lisa Diamond Muller. We live, my husband and I, at Farmview. We're right on the corner of where that emergency gate is. Okay. That would come into Homestead. We're all along Farmview. We have a wonderful neighborhood, a safe neighborhood that has just a wonderful feeling about it. We beg you to please keep that as an emergency access because if you open it, the amount of traffic, it'll take away the integrity of our entire neighborhood and what we're all about. And, there's other options that this we're fine as the other gentleman said, we're fine with this neighborhood. The new developers done what we've asked and and all of that.
But that's there. And if you open up that gate, the amount of traffic we're gonna be on a main road. We will it'll take away the integrity of our whole neighborhood. So we beg of you to please leave that as an emergency gate. Thank you.
Thank you, ma'am. Yes, sir.
Paul Jones. I live at 912 Homestead. Thought perhaps you'll hear from him, so actually is on Homestead. And our concern with with not having that gate there is simply what has been echoed already is that it will become a thoroughfare for people wanting to avoid the stoplights on 377 to be used as a shortcut to get both to the schools. And also, I mean, we we've already experienced that on Norma Drive right now where people cutting down Norma from Marshall Ridge, for example, to avoid the stoplight that's at the corner of Borland And Johnson. So we've already seen what will happen. It's not a a matter of will it will will it will it or not. It actually will. And so we would ask that again that that the gate be put in to avoid that as being an access for Homestead. Homestead Drive is a is a quiet street.
It's a quiet neighborhood as as my fellow neighbors just echoed. We have several members from Homestead that are here as well as you can see.
You guys came on a bus?
Yes. Yes. So so so all of you can bump as well. But but again, you know, it's just very important for us just to maintain the integrity of the neighborhood. New neighborhood that we're going in, it will have other accesses to get where they need to go. This just be one fewer access. And so we ask that this gate be put in again to allow us to maintain the integrity of the neighborhood and prevent there being excess traffic down the street. Thank you for your time.
Thank you, sir. Is anybody else? Okay. No. All good.
Good evening. No worries. You see how Shannon you see how he yeah.
Oh, okay. So my name's Amber Coley, I live at 317 Farmview Trail. Appreciate the builders and the developers listening to the concerns because our our main concerns were the setback on that because we back up to this or we're the North of Harmonson Farms.
Mhmm.
So I really appreciate that they've we got the 40 foot setback and that the they're talking about doing the eight foot fence. My concern as well is the traffic. And with having kids and stuff, it would be great to not have a lot of people flying through there. So I my my thought is if we were gonna keep it low density, it's one thing. Right?
So then there's a lot less people coming through if it was open, but and that was kind of my understanding whenever we bought the house was that it was all zoned for low density. And I get it, and we always knew it was gonna be developed, it was just a matter of time. So I'm not opposed to the development. I just think that if it was low density, then having it open, there'd be a lot less people. But when we go to medium, we have a lot more houses, and so I feel like it would be great if we had a gate there.
And I know that the fire marshal and stuff wants the easiest ways to get places, and I get that. But I also feel like safety is really important, and I don't want those huge speed bumps. Those drive me crazy in different places that we have to, like but it feels like that's probably what would have to happen if you're gonna make that a thorough affair. So yeah. Thank you.
Thank you. Appreciate you, ma'am. Anybody else wish to speak?
Good evening. Great day, nine zero four Homestead. It's about the gates. But it's a different perspective, right, because it's 59 houses and look, we want development. Okay, don't don't hear, I don't think I heard anybody in our community say we didn't want development. We also want commercial growth, right, and we want restaurants, not hair salons, sorry. We want restaurants and stuff. But as you think about putting a restaurant in there and you think about lunch, afternoon traffic, and then coming down through that street and you got an elementary school. So I think it's more than just thinking about the housing, and it's about how we grow the community the right way and we protect what we have, but we add and we add productively. And that's what I'd actually like to comment about is thank you for giving us a voice.
Thank you for reaching out to us and saying, write your thoughts down because we don't see that in a lot of places. But we're trying to help get this right for all of Keller. Right? So thank you.
Thank you, sir. Anybody else? Okay. You sure? Because we'll make a motion to close the public hearing. Okay. I'll move to close the public hearing. Mayor elect? I'll second. Alright. Got a motion to second. We'll take a vote. All right. Public hearing is closed. I do have a question for staff.
Can you provide the reasoning or at least what was the rationale behind P and Z with regards to the gates? And then in addition, the kind of also the justification from the city's perspective because we have properties, for example, Armstrong Hills, which we approve that is wholly gated, right? So what's the reason, I guess, or the justification in our UDC for that? What was PNC's purpose for wanting to take those gates out? Two parts.
So I think obviously to a commissioner, just like with counsel, there's always, you know, seven different thoughts behind particular vote or or motion. I think a lot of that stemmed with concern over setting a precedent of gating a public street, which we as the the city have generally not been supportive of. I don't know if Alonzo or the fire chief wanna chime in on this because this oh, yes. Alonzo's right here. This is really more in in their realm in terms of access points for a subdivision.
can't speak for the planning commission. We'd have to go back and pull them individually and see what their comments were. But there is some logic to that interconnectivity. And I get Armstrong Hills on Davis, is an example of one that's recently approved that doesn't have more than one point of access. But that was actually approved as an exception because the UEC has required at least two when you're over 50 units, not necessarily three, but at least two.
And so that that is a specific variance that was granted at that time. But beyond emergency fire access, it's still, there's still some logic to it when it comes to just vehicular or connectivity. And I think Davis stands as a great example of subdivision after subdivision that gets approved only to be faced with the request, if not demand, of a signal for medium breaks for additional access for what otherwise would be simple connections. In fact, we just recently adopted changes to our development code which requires cross access easement to adjacent properties on a commercial level which recognizes the ability to go from a location to location without having to go on to a major road. In this case 377 if anybody from Harmonso Farm wants to head north or vice versa.
That interconnectivity is more than just emergency access but it's also for services and other deliveries and the like.
Okay. And then from the applicant's perspective, have you guys ever gave thought I know you guys are kind of you guys are willing to be flexible with regards to the access gates, I get that. Has there ever been any discussion with just having a gated residential property? And if so, would that have changed your plans whatsoever as far as like the layouts and things like that?
Preston Crow for the record.
If we don't mind, can we go to the slide with the property layout?
Thank you. So you're asking if we ever considered just gating it completely?
Having it gated
with With the a cul de sac on each side and not even trying to connect those roads? Correct. Yeah. And the issue with that, in discussions with the fire marshal is that by putting an emergency access gate on each of these or one or the other, you still have fire access through there. Now when you get rid of that gate completely, cold a sack it and just have one gate with one entrance, you lose your emergency access. So there is a health, safety and welfare.
Okay. If if ultimately you would have just had this as a gated property, how would this layout or concept plan differ from what we're seeing today? I guess is what I'm asking. So for example, you've got the entry, right?
Yep, up $3.70 Yep,
and so then you've got that open space there. And it seems kind of, you know, you're gonna put a, if you hypothetically were to put a gate there, seems kind of like an awkward drive there to Harmonson Farm connection there. So would that have been some additional open space? Or is there any other aspects of this that would have changed? Or not necessarily? I'm just curious.
Not necessarily. I mean there's five or six houses that front onto that road into Harmonson. I think if you wanted to cul de sac that, would be something we'd be happy to do and not even make that connection. And you would still have two fire connections, north and south.
Okay. All right. Okay. If you want to just stay nearby because I'm sure there'll be some additional questions. I'll offer my thoughts on this, and I may have a question along the way.
But first of all, thank you all for for all the neighbors that came out and offer your thoughts and for being willing to stick with us here in the evening. And then I also do want to thank the landowners. Thank you for your consideration and being mindful of who you select to potentially develop this property. Obviously, there's a rich history with the family and we're grateful for you all being here for a long time. And then from a developer standpoint, it's not every day, quite honestly, that you have developers that come to the city and actually seek out to meet with the neighbors.
And to me that speaks volumes for frankly not just who you guys are, but the development that I think you're trying to build. Oftentimes you get a lot of folks that either come by right and don't have to meet with the neighbors and they build what they want to build because they don't have to come to council. And then in my opinion, that's when I think we as a community kind of lose. A lot of the concerns that you all have usually can only get addressed if there's a planned development, a PD, which is what's being presented to us. So for example, if you had questions about the gates and if that's something that's a concern to you, just to be clear, if this were to come by Wright, then that property could get potentially developed without any consideration of those gates.
That's what I mean by that. So this process actually gives the residents, those that are adjacent to the property, a little bit more say. But thank you all for taking the time to meet with them and those property owners. Because I think ultimately there is a concept here that I think could be a win for the city and one that I think we as a council really need to strongly consider. I'll say this, kind of going back several years ago, we purposely as a council created the TERS, the tax increment reinvestment zone.
And we purposely included 377. So everything on the 377 Corridor, including the sports park, including Old Town Keller, we anticipated that as Keller gets close to its build out, that's where you would see the new additional development, new valuations. So we developed what's called TERS number two. And the reason you as a city do that, and the reason we decided to make that decision was you can oftentimes then partner with other taxing entities. So like the county or the community college or the hospital district to actually then participate in contributing towards that corridor.
Right? So as valuations go up, as new developments go up, the county has interest in that because they also collect the Avalon property taxes. So they want cities to develop thoughtfully with quality carefully and to incentivize that they participate. So we created that TERZ zone to collect some of that additional tax dollars from the county. And I think is it the county hospital or is it the college?
The college. The college is the other taxing entity. In the grand scheme of things, this is exactly why we did that. Because we anticipate develop like this happening. We also updated our future land use plan and we varied from the future land use plan.
I would actually say that what we are seeing today before us with this concept plan is actually better than what the future plan had even drawn up and what's actually there. And the reason being, it's not easy to develop along with three seventy seven heavy kind of commercial corridor that's also next to a railroad track. And so the reason we had that commercial piece and kind of then the residential piece on the back end of it was that kind of create that kind of that flow, if you will. That makes sense. That's why I asked the question about how deep was the commercial.
If you have it too deep, then no commercial is interested in going in that because it's too deep. In fact, we've had some of those challenges along March. So I think that's the proper depth that you've had just based on prior conversations we've had with other development groups in the past. And so that part makes sense. The 59 lots, first of all, for any person that says it's high density, because we've gotten maybe 10 or so emails of people saying we don't want any more high density.
This is not high density. This is medium density. To be clear, this is is it what you said, it's an average 18,000 square foot lots? So it's actually larger if you live in Harmonso Farms, which I know several of you all do. On average, this is actually larger lot sizes. And then Greenway, I meant to ask you guys, what's Greenway? You guys might be 20,000 or?
Slightly on that.
Okay. 20,000. So is it 25 or 20?
The base zoning is SF 20, but I think the I would have to check it, but the the vast majority of the lots I think are a little above that. Okay. But the base zoning for Greenway is 20.
Okay. So you've got property to the north that is pretty comparable with average lot size of 18,000 here with what's being presented. Then you've got Harman which is actually smaller. I think what was it 12,000 on average in that ballpark, was it right? So this is a very comparable development to what is around it.
And when you look at the valuations, you're talking about 1,200,000 in your presentation, you said 1,200,000 to $1,500,000 $3,000 to 5,000 square foot. I actually think you're kind of being soft on that. Because I think the reality is with what's happening around in new development, you're probably closer to the $2,000,000 range on those 5,000 square foot lots or homes, I'm sorry. So you're probably really in the range anywhere from realistically one three to two is probably really where you're going to be at. And then you've got your commercial piece.
So I think you're, what's the word harmonious harmonious? I'm not from US initially, so sorry. You're compatible. Let's go there. You're compatible with what's surrounding your property. And, you know, you kinda start looking long term from a city of Keller development perspective. And I heard it because we just had campaigns. Everybody throws out this 50,000 number and they kinda use that frankly to say we don't want more development because we wanna get there. We're gonna get there as a city, whether you like it or not. Now how you address any questions or any concerns you may have, which frankly I don't think we as a city should be concerned about that number, is with quality development.
So if quality development comes to the city of Keller, you're actually growing your tax base as well to to compensate for that new growth and whatever those concerns you may have about the state taking or the city taking over the state road. So this is a quality development. At completion, just kind of back of the napkin math, you're talking about a total valuation of $88,000,000 to $100,000,000 when you get this to build out. So you want to talk about the amenities and all the improvements that we've in City Of Keller, it's because we focus on quality. You want to talk about the tax relief and the historic tax relief that we've been able to do collectively as a city, it's because we've pushed on quality.
You want to talk about better business development, well you do that by addressing infrastructure and bringing quality. This addresses infrastructure. This will create that connectivity that Alonso was talking to with sewer connections and things like that. So that's how you address these things. You wanna address public safety and make sure they're compensated.
If you stay stagnant, that's where you start running into issues. And so this is I think a thoughtful, carefully thought out development. That's a quality development that's gonna bring value to the city. That's really the whole reason why we've been created that zone to begin with, is exactly to try to attract a development like this. A development that quite frankly it sounds like most neighbors who will be most immediately impacted by are actually for it with the exception that we put those gates in there, which I'm all for.
So I think there's a lot of pros here. I understand for anybody that says we I just don't want to see any development period. Unfortunately, that's not the reality of the world that we live in. I think from a city council perspective, we all run on trying to preserve the character and feel of our community. And I would actually argue, this protects the character and the feel. Because if you don't come through a planned development, and you allow a developer to come by right, then you get more of a cookie cutter approach that doesn't address the issues that the neighbors have talked about. And that would be my concern here. Not all of Keller's gonna get developed. There's areas where it's gonna remain rural, and and where they're at makes sense. But this is long three '77, it's gonna get developed.
How we do it, I think needs to be thoughtful. So this didn't come and show up to us overnight. You guys put a whole lot of time into this. We're here tonight to take a vote. But this is a culmination of of years in the works. And I know from the property owners, you guys were very careful in that process. So I can support this wholeheartedly. And with the with the exception that we gate those entry points. And frankly, I have no issues getting the entire property, but I don't need to die on that hill. If we just need a gate, the entry at the north, the entry at the South, I'm okay with that.
I think there's precedent with other developments in the city here in Keller where we've actually gated the entire thing. You look at other communities around us, they've done developments just like that as well. I don't see that as a concern in my end. So I'll leave it there. So thank you all.
Mayor elect. Thanks, mister mayor. One of the questions that came up while listening was, what's the as compared to Greenway Park, if the request for was for SF 20, how many lots would be able to be developed on this piece of land? If was more comparable to Greenway Park in terms of an apples to apples request, I realize it's two separate projects, two separate pieces of land, But
So I I would guess, and it is very much a guess between fifty and fifty five lots. It would depend on the roadway design.
Fifty and fifty
between fifty and fifty five lots, lots, depending on the roadway design and Yes. How
If you have you ran the calculations on if you want to come up and address, sir.
Sir. Mayor Alecht. The we've looked you we would lose 10 to 12 lots to do SF 20 straight by the book. The irregular shape of the property causes inefficiencies, substantial. I can also tell you that to do an average lot size of 20,000 square feet, so you would still have to keep the PD if you kept the PD identical, but we increased lots to an average of a 20, it would it would hurt us.
It would hurt my property owner, but we would lose, six lots. Is that correct, Preston? Yes. We'd lose six lots. So I I know for a fact that going to a 20,000 square foot minimum minimum would cost 10 to 12, which would basically kill this project. So and really, we're in a position where it would be very I'd probably have to confirm my landowner to do anything right now because we've done so much for all the neighbors in this to have this package together. But to answer your question transparently, we will lose at least $10,000 wouldn't make it we wouldn't be able to do this project.
You just said something, sir. If you had an average lot size of 20,000 you'd lose to 6,000. 6,000. Okay. And then on the other end of the spectrum, this project, as I recall anyway, it's been a few months. But I think the 09/02/2025 meeting, this I think came before us. Can you talk about some of the changes in the proposal since then?
Sure. Preston, do you to come up? Preston Crow is going to address that question for you,
sir. Thanks.
The two main or the two major changes. The lot count was originally 66. The minimum lot size was 12,000 square foot. Minimum lot width was 80 foot. Minimum lot depth was 120 foot. So we're about 25 foot deeper, minimum of 16 foot wider up to 26 foot wider. Their average square foot was we had it in one of our slides, but I think it was 14,100. So we're about 30% larger.
So we actually prepared a comparison slide in anticipation of that project or in anticipation of that question.
In the bar, Sarah.
So just a moment. We'll pull that up.
So this is
comparing the the case you mentioned, Merelec, from September 2025, on the right hand side of your screen, on the left hand is the current proposal.
Six less lots, average lot size about 4,000 square foot greater. Those are all steps in the right direction in my opinion in terms of getting it to be a low lower density. It's not a low density project, so I don't wanna characterize it as such. But it is lower density than the one that was proposed in September 2025, which was our request to y'all was to, you know, sharpen pencils and try to do that homework. So from my perspective, at least, thank you for taking the time and energy to go do that.
It's not an easy easy chore to do, especially with, you know, think you described it as inefficiencies in land. So I appreciate that. I agree with the mayor's comments on turge number two. That was something that we established early on in a vision we set forth as a council. I'm also in support of gating the North and the South. Or my misunderstanding, was there is there a cul de sac component to the to this PD proposal at the North end?
There so there's currently a constructed cul de sac right here where so here's Groveway Park. The name of the street is Escaping me, Keller Springs, I think. And and they built a cul de sac, which is what's right here.
We're to couple a
existing conditions. Okay. Questions.
Long story short, is the plan to do away at the cul de sac so that way you have more areas?
Yes. So I just wanted to point out that I'm glad you brought that up. Greenway Park was basically afforded at least one, if not two, extra lots at the expense of my landowner for agreeing to grant the easement for that cul de sac that currently resides on and was built on their property. So if you look at that, too, basically, they lost a couple lots out of their generosity to give Greenway the ability to put the cul de sac for a fire truck to turn around on their property. We will have to remove it, and put a gate if you so if counsel so chooses to to gate both north and south.
Understood. Thanks. I guess the only other question or comment that hadn't been completely addressed from what I was listening to, Well, two pretty important ones. I've always explained, like, the golden rule is really important to me, I know that I assume to the rest of the council, treat others how you wanna be treated, of course. And so I really put a lot of weight into the feedback of residents, just like my colleagues do, those residents most adjacent to the project proposal.
I did see on the map some opposition from surrounding residents. I guess is there anyone in the room that was was it all due to the gate? Like, okay. Because that's what I heard vice president of the HO-eight attest to. So I wanted to make sure I was clear on that.
Also, other thing that I think is important here that hasn't been addressed is, at least as I understood it, talking about protecting the character of the community, the commercial component of this, is it mine Sarah, is it correct to state that the applicants are proposing limitations on that commercial development?
That is
So rather than having, I don't know, whatever, what are the limitations, like a few of them?
They've taken out several you know heavy industrial sector out oriented of even the possibilities and then they've also committed to bringing forth an SUP for any proposed non residential project. Project. Even if the base zoning allows something by right, they're saying they'll bring it back as an SUP for council approval. So council would have complete control over and discretion over what would go there. It's it's similar to what was approved for Rosebery farther to the south. You know, they have that commercial tracked along 377, excuse me, as well, and they committed to coming back with an SUP for anything that was developed on the nonresidential portion of their of their PD.
Okay. Yeah. I just think that's really important to note because for us as a city, it gives residents a lot more of an opportunity to weigh in on the build out of the 377 Corridor. And we've talked at length as a council about how we want to implement a vision for the 377 Corridor. And I think this gives us an opportunity potentially to do that if the applicant and developer are committing to coming and getting an SUP for any proposed use in that area.
I guess to wrap it up, from my perspective, I really appreciated the family's comments about the history of the land and also, I guess, the pride in which you went through the process of putting forward a proposal. That definitely struck a chord with me. Because when you look at it just kind of on a, a two d rendering, it's another residential subdivision. But when you factor in some of the quality controls that the city gets, the fact that it's in the TERS adds a lot of value to Keller, and it's lower density than what was proposed originally. But that's sort of a story.
It's pretty hard for me to vote against it. I think if you had presented the same project that we already denied, then it'd be relatively easy here to vote against that. But you've sharpened your pencils and you've done the work. So for that, I commend you and I appreciate you coming in tonight.
Thank you. And and real quick, just to that point, by the way, on the I guess I can't get lost on the TERS. You know, I want you to correct and then we'll I'm sorry. Congress I was gonna call you congresswoman. Again, I did that. This is the second time. City Councilwoman. The TERS, so it's it's essentially it's a multiplier. Multiplier. I mean, if we're talking 88,000,000 to $100,000,000 in new valuation because of those other entities, it multiplies. And so when we talk about, again, addressing some of the concerns that I've heard, Quality developments in this zone is even more important. So thanks for that point. Councilwoman Brennan, sorry.
Yeah, I'm not ready to run for congress. Okay. First of I want to thank you all for, like everybody both folks said, meeting with the neighbors very extensively. That's really important to come up with some middle ground with them because they live there, their property values are affected by it, their lifestyle, kids playing in the yard, that sort of thing is affected by it. I certainly think gating those streets, having access for emergency equipment, that's a good thing, but I think you could gate them for emergency and that would keep people from cutting through especially, I live on the corner of Borland And Johnson, people are going to cut through that road to get to Keller Harville, there's no doubt about it.
And that road doesn't really access a lot of homes, mean it's kind of on the bottom south side. So to me gating that entrance is somewhat of a no brainer. Gating up north, you know, I think as well, I think the homes in Greenway would not have anticipated being affected by flow through traffic from Mount Gilead across down through 377 in Keller Harville. So I'll say that about the gates. I will say I understand the whole discussion about S F 36.
And I understand that SF-thirty 6 was a designation that was put in place for land that was incorporated and that was just something that was quote unquote picked. And I think that the definition, I think the intent of the SF 36 was bigger lots and more green space between houses. I think that's the intent. Whether it's exactly 36,000 feet or not, to me I'm not super hell bent on that definition, can certainly live with something maybe a little bit less than that. But the intent being that you've got some green space.
I'm adjacent to a neighborhood called Gene Estates that is that. And they have quite a bit of distance between their homes and it's nice. It doesn't feel like right next to me I've got a sea of roofs and so I just talking to people in the city on a regular basis, you know, not just during election time, but on a regular basis, I hear from all over the city people would like to have a little bit more green space, a little bit less jam packed homes. And so I like everything about this vision, I really do. I just think it's too many homes.
And I, you know, for me if you get, you know, if you can reduce, take about 12 homes out of that sub division, that gets you pretty close to a feel of I think what people would expect quote unquote SF-thirty 6 to be even if it's not exactly SF-thirty 6. I could live with that, but the intent is you know, we don't want what we're seeing in North Glutton Hills where we have these subdivisions which is house after house after house and they hardly have any space. In this case you guys are less you know you're asking for variances on the lot width, the homes instead of being 2,000 are going to be 3,000 to 5,000, you're talking about a lot of home on a more narrow lot and I think that's going to give the impression of a lot of houses really close together and I think that defeats the purpose of SF 36. So to summarize my ramblings here, however this vote goes, I definitely think the two gates would be something that would would would amend the situation. You'd have access for the fire and it would appeal to the neighbors that are adjacent to those communities.
But in the end, I would like to see fewer homes than what you currently have laid out just because of the closeness together, the large homes on the narrow lots is not the intent of what I think people want to see in these SF-thirty 6 zones, even if it's not 36. It could be a little bit less, but to me they're too tight. So that's my viewpoint. Thank you.
Thank you. Councilor Watley.
Thank you, mister mayor. I really appreciate the family's input about the history and heritage of the land. I have great respect for that. The mayor mentioned, some people being opposed to high density, that this is not high density. What the people are opposed to is not high density in itself, although yes, that's true.
What they're opposed to is down zoning. Zoning is the law and to change the law, we should have a compelling argument, something that's really a motivator. And every time I see a developer come in to Shellder, they always use the flop and say, well, this justifies down zoning because of the flop. The last FLOP was adopted five years ago, April '21, and I was opposed to many of the areas and many of the things that was on it. My friends, it is supposed to be the flop is a future land use plan, what we will do twenty years from now.
And the minute we adopt it and open that little crack in the wall, then every developer says, oh, this goes along with your flop. Well we just adopted it five years ago, come back in fifteen years. That's my feeling. Opposition wise, we have 45 letters of opposition to this development. Not just one or two people yassing about high density, but we have 45 letters of opposition.
And I haven't seen five letters of support. What I've seen is the compelling argument for down zoning in this case as every other one I've ever seen is the developers and everybody involved in the PD are looking to make more money. Now all of that being said, do I do I think that you've done an admirable job? I do. I I think you've put a lot of effort into what you've proposed.
But the family also mentioned that community matters and I agree with that. It does. And the seat I sit in doesn't belong to me, it belongs to the people who put me in it. And the I've heard the voices of the citizens of Heller for a long time. I've sat on this council for nine years and was just reelected for another three.
So by the time I finished serving my fellow citizens, I'll be here for twelve years. And I've seen this cycle over and over and over. And the property that councilwoman Brennan mentioned, the Jean Estate, I live just north of there. That was a highly hotly contested development. Well, I believe the developers did something unethical, but I won't go into all of that.
The bottom line of it is that the developers kept saying, well well, we can't do it. If it's less than 36,000 of you know, if it's if you make us do 36,000 square feet, it just it won't work. Well, we held them to 36,000 square feet. I was not on council at the time, I was on planning and zoning, but they were held at 36,000 square feet and we have a beautiful development where the houses sell for 1 and a half million and up. So I I say all of that simply to say this, as much as I appreciate everybody's work and the sentiment and everything that's going into it, and trying to work with the neighbors, I, unfortunately, can't support the down zoning.
So that's where I'm at. Thank you for listening.
Sir, councilman Jabberley.
Thank you, mister mayor. Real quick, Sarah. What did they say what the price point was on these lots? Just out of curiosity.
1.2? What? Come back. You wanna?
On the lots or on the homes?
The homes.
I'm I'm sorry. Okay. Just want
to make
sure I was answering that.
Yeah. Good question. But no, the average house
is The base price that I represented is 1,200,000 to $1.5 plus, but that is Mayor, you may have said or that this is a very conservative number. We don't like we like to underpromise and overdeliver. And so when you throw on options and customizations in a 5,000 square foot house, this is really going be pushing closer to a $14,000,000 to $2,000,000 type of price point. We have the railroad track, but that's where our base pricing was what I was of 1 point dollars $2,000,000 $5 plus options and things If like I might ask just one clarification. Oh, I'm sorry.
May I ask a question? Yes, sure. Go ahead. Is what I'm hearing is, about the open space. We have a 16% open space in our PD as it is right now. That's a very significant amount, and we were deliberate on the aerial and showing the trees. Are we talking about, you know, maybe this is more for Councilwoman Brennan. Is there, are we talking about, would you like to see just a fewer lots and more of that open space? Or is it more of an average lot size of larger? But what's more important, I guess, is what I'm asking to you, if you could clarify for me?
More green between the houses. So either that's taking some houses out in the current plan so there's more space between them. Or, you know, maybe having houses that have green space inter dispersed where you have a lot that's maybe green space and then you have a house and a house and a lot with green just more green and not the houses so close together, big houses on narrow lots.
If there was a way that you could I don't know. I can think of something, I'm just wondering if there was a way I could articulate that, for tonight, for a motion to condition like what PNC did for us to say, if if you do this, you know, remove three lots, something like that, and make open space in areas as directed by staff or something. Is that something that is possible too for consideration?
Yeah. That's something that's possible. I think, you know, you you you could you could table it to to lay out lots. I I I mean I did some quick math and I think you have to get rid of about 12 lots, which is which is a lot.
That's what for okay.
I mean I think we're talking more than just making it a I mean more than just a few lots. I mean, you're 60 homes. Think you're talking in the 40s, a lot less homes than what you have now. So if that'd be something you'd be willing to lay out, I'd be willing to make a motion.
We would not be able to do that. My poor property owner would be holding this for another ten years and maybe longer or someone would just come in and Right. You know, it wouldn't be us. We I can't do that. I can't I can't do that. But thank you for letting me know what you're thinking. Appreciate it.
Alright. Thank you. That was the only question I had for you. I have some thoughts and I'm not going to repeat everything that was said to keep this short, it's getting late. But for down zoning, I have some concerns for this was a 30% decrease in commercial space. It was originally over five acres, now it's 3.66. So we'll be down zoning to decrease our commercial space there on one of our we don't have an interstate in Keller. We have two major corridors really for with 377 and Keller Parkway. Also the less green space and I know we unanimously denied the last one due to lot size as well and I appreciate you guys. I definitely see the effort you all put into it and you had to take away some green space to do that.
But I definitely would have liked more green space which leads to you would have to cut more homes. But my other concern is the lot coverage. In the UDC the way it is, it's supposed to be 35% for this PD it's 45%. And I think that's another that averages out to about 29 increase in lot coverage. And that affects drainage for the neighbors and for you guys and HOAs below or above depending on the topography.
That means more water is going to run towards y'all's homes, which we have to take into account. And a 30% increase in lot coverage is quite a lot. So for us to down zone, for us to approve that, to take away about 30% of commercial space, to also increase the lot coverage, which increases drainage issues and also less green space, that's just not what I'm looking for in this area. But I appreciate appreciate y'all's effort, and I definitely appreciate the family's history and what y'all like to do here. Thank you.
Councilman Will? Thank you, mister mayor.
I'm trying to I appreciate you bringing this forward. I voted against this last time primarily because I think if things continue the way they're going down in Austin, Keller is going to be heavily dependent on our commercial property. The previous application had over 5.25 acres of commercial tract. This one reduced it down to 3.66 acres of commercial tract. The green space, the shared green space was significantly decreased And that's kind of how we got to the larger lot sizes in addition to the handful of lots that were taken off of the previous application.
I just can't change my vote. I'm still going to be a no on this for those reasons in that it didn't improve my concerns and actually made them worse. But thank you. Council Mawatley.
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. To counsel Woman Brennan's remarks about the size of the lots in the green space. If you'll wait just a moment, I'll be done. In Gina states, because your proposal is for 45% coverage per lot for the main building with a maximum of 55% with an average lot size of 18,177 square feet.
That means your main structure as far if you do the 55% of coverage on your lot, that's almost 10,000 square feet. You said the average home was three to 5,000. The average home in Jean Estates is 3,150 to 4,800. So what I want counsel to imagine, imagine walking through Jean Estates and the homes in this development are the same size as what we have in Jean Estates, but the lots are half the size, half. What that means is that the image that was shown on the screen of those big homes on big lots in the presentation tonight, in reality when you walk or bike or or however you drive through this development, it will not look like Gina states at all.
It will be the same size houses on half of the lot with 55% coverage of impermeable surface. So I just wanted to put that in everybody's head. Thank you.
Okay. So let me just real quick because there's a couple of things that I wanna These people live in Harmison Farms. It's an average of 12,000 square feet. Do you feel like you live in what was just described? Yes or no? Probably not. Right? Correct. So it bugs me when I hear comments like that respectfully because this is a 18,000 square feet. Put that in perspective. What's an acre? 45,000? Well, I forget the exact number. Okay. We're talking about properties less than half an acre, but some of them pretty damn close to it.
So I don't know what world we live in where a half an acre lot is all of sudden considered high density in the city. So to address some of the other comments, the drainage issue. That's such an anti any development comment because if you develop property according to our plans that need to be approved by city staff and by engineers and professionals, it's actually supposed to address those drainage issues. So I have a problem when I hear that because that's such an easy talking point to give, when in reality development that is of quality is actually supposed to address some of the issue. With regards to this whole dependency to commercial property of the state of Texas does what they do, I think was referenced to trying to get rid of the maintenance and operation taxes for our schools and creating more dependency on commercial.
This property is going to be way too deep if we have any hope of it to being purely commercially driven. You won't be able to develop that property commercially. In fact, it's the exact reason why the prior council, none of us were here at the time, developed center stage, which is the apartment complex. It's too deep. So if you want to have quality development that actually brings quality commercial, you can't have too deep of a parcel.
So this addresses that. And then I'll just say it because again, I don't want to down this hill, but I think we're going down the wrong path respectfully. The reason why Austin and the state legislature has actually began passing legislation that makes it more difficult for cities to regulate their zoning is exactly because of this a plan like this one. Where councils deny it because they're afraid of development and and that's exactly what Austin's doing. So we're gonna be the prime example this next session of why they're gonna wanna d or or deregulate our zoning, make us more like a Houston.
This is the example. And as far as a compelling reason of why you wanna go from 36,000 square feet to something less than the 36,000 square feet, again keep in mind it's actually a less dense product than their neighbors to the South, somewhat similar to what's directly to the North. It's a pretty comparable development. But a compelling reason would be the fact that because we want them or another developer to come in at 36,000 square feet because we want to save 10 lots or eight lots here, we want you know it to be 49 as opposed to 59 or 51 as opposed to 59. What are you compromising?
It's exactly what these neighbors want, which is that to be closed off. A developer tomorrow buys the property from the landowners behind these guys tomorrow and says, I'm gonna build Geen Estates and build it 36,000 by right, you guys are screwed. So that's the discussion that doesn't happen quite often at a city level. We have these debates, but we don't pull it all out. So when you get 45 emails from these folks, it's because they got an email from someone that says, high density development or this, and they don't give the whole picture.
And I think it's on this body, we get elected by people to represent them, to actually thoughtfully consider everything that comes before us and not just assume everything's apple to apples. Because this is a very unique development that addresses their concerns. And if it weren't for them bringing a plan development, they're gonna be screwed, not us. So Austin's looking to stuff like this, and this is exactly why they're passing legislation that will preempt cities from putting zoning requirements. Mayor elect?
Yeah. I have a question for you. What do you wanna say? Yeah. Please approach.
Obviously, I'm down on my last straw. It may not make a difference, but I just wanted to throw out I've just been confirm conferring with my landowner. And it may not make a difference. It won't satisfy everything I've been hearing here. But if it was possible, the comment, Councilman Watley, about the lot coverage, the reason why we have the 35% is really specifically for the fifth the the one story house commitment for the Harmons and Farms folks.
Because when you have a one story house, to have the same price point we're talking, you have to go wider. I would be more than happy as a condition, if it may move the needle at all, to be clear clarifying the PD as part of the motion that the the lot coverage conformed fully for the UDC with the exception of only the one story homes. And that's no more than 14. Is that correct, Preston? For 11 lots. I mean, that's just just to address that question. Because there's a reason. Those folks to the south wanted one story homes. And but we're having to push $1,520,000 homes. And how do you do that unless you have the square footage to support it?
So that would be something I can do to address your comment there. Another on the commercial, Mayor, I appreciate your comments. That's exactly what we saw. But beyond that, too, I don't know if you ever if any of you have walked this property. But when you get past 300 feet and if you look at Greenway Park, too, there is an enormous hill when you get past 300 feet. The topography is extremely steep. And you're not only talking about back and visible commercial, but no one's going to ever build that commercial because of that topo. You're going be having to build like a 30 foot retaining wall or having walls scaled down, and that's going to add extreme either dirt export or import wall costs. It's going be the last piece just sitting there doing nothing. That's why Greenway Parks commercials.
It's just got it's built on the slope. It's maybe zoned commercial, but how usable it is. Our 3.6 acres is nice and flat and turnkey, would be with the single family development. So I wanted to mention that reality as well when we looked at the commercial for this site. And then the last consideration or item I could do, and this is just a last minute thing that I've just talked to my property owners, if we modify the PD to have a for the single family to average 20,000 square foot lots, keeping everything else the same. We would lose six lots. And I would try to work in open, but if we could do something like that, that's on the table tonight, too, if that would move anybody's needle. So I just wanted
that.
you'll promise to keep it kind of brief, out of out of respect to you and your testimony, if you would approach, I I do wanna hear what you have to say briefly. Miss Perfect. Right? Sure.
And then real quick while you come up, there was one thing I forgot to mention real quick because I want to address your question. On the 36,000 square feet, the reason this was because last time it was, what, 1980s? 83. 83. So just so you all know, the reason this was designated 36,000 is because at the time, Tarrant County required 36,000 for it to be an ag exempt and also if you wanna maintain your septic. And so there was a reason behind the 36,000. It wasn't necessarily counsel at the time crafted this, there, and that. It's it's because of the exceptions, by
the way.
I respectfully have a question for Chris Wally. How many letters of support would it require?
Since I'm I see myself as the listening to the people. Yes. When I have 45 letters of opposition and none of support, It's just like I'm looking for majority.
Okay. So if we were to come back with letters, how many would it take? More than the negative? Is that what you want?
That yes, ma'am. That's yeah. Okay.
Okay. The other question I have is you do realize that we could divide this into three sections. The commercial could be sold to a church. How much tax would you get from that?
None. None. Okay.
Yeah. The middle section could be for the 36,000. Right? Because we got an entrance right there through Harmonsen Farms. The back of the cul de sac could be divided into five acre or several acre sections with modular homes, gravel driveways, sheds right up to the fence of Harmonton Farms with a donkey in their backyard. What we're bringing is a beautiful plan. Not everybody wants to have a big yard. I like a big yard, but not everybody wants 36,000 square foot yard. They just don't. If they want the house, they'll buy the house.
And the people that want 36,000 square feet can drive to their homes and enjoy that. Why can't we let this go through? Thank you for listening.
Thank you, miss Burford. So in respect to your comment, my the reason I main reason I pressed the, you know, request to speak here, my understanding of what this this message the message that this council and all of us were here for it articulated to the applicant was to come back and try to get as, you know, as close as you can to the Greenway Park development. Because at the at the end of the day, all of us well, actually, I don't think councilman Brennan was on council. I'm not sure councilman Will was, but I'm pretty sure councilman Dobberley, mayor, councilman Watley, myself all approved down zoning for Greenway Park. And so for us to sit here and say, well, we're not we're never gonna down zone.
I you know, I respect that this is the people seat, and, you know, we all listen to them as closely as we can. But the feedback I get is about quality development. It's not a rubber stamp approach. And so your comment about 20,000 actually struck a chord because I think that actually meets the expectation of what this council as a body set forth. Because Greenway Park development was zoned at s f 20.
And so if those folks wanted to build at 20,000 square feet, we gave the green light for that. So I would be a little bit remiss or I'd perplexed if we couldn't afford the same consideration to this applicant. And so I'm not gonna call anyone out, but I would just beg the council to consider that point because otherwise, we've just wasted their time and given them a lot of heartache. If I misunderstood the outcome of that meeting, then I'll own that. But at least my one of my key takeaways from that last discussion in September, and one of the reasons I voted against the application at that point, was because we were striving for quality and to mirror the type of project that was passed at Greenway.
And so when I'm looking at the homework you turned in, you did a great job. You actually met that expectation as close as I can see that you could. So I would ask us to consider the offer that the family, it sounds like, wanting to make to have a condition to the PD that the average lot size is 20,000 square feet. That's was it is that 8,000 more square feet than what was proposed in September? Am I tracking that correctly?
Around 12,000 in September '25? '14. That's about 6,500 more square feet. Those are my comments. Thanks. Councilor
Dobre Lee. Yeah. Thank you, mister mayor. For the Greenway one, even though it was as of '20, I remember a lot of the lots were a lot bigger than that, but that's fine. I'll just speak to the mayor's comments, and I understand you're passionate, mister mayor. But I'd also say that one of the bedrocks of Texas and conservatism is local control. And citizens, you know, we have home rule cities. And if you want a lot of apartments, you can maybe go to Arlington. If you want smaller lots, you can go to Watauga. And Keller generally, we like larger lots.
And I didn't approve all of the things in the area that might be commiserate to it. But as far as Austin creating, taking away local control, it's more because of Houston, not because of us. But I would hope that when you go to Austin, you would wanna protect local control and our ability to shape color the way that the citizens elect us and want us to do, as well as the surrounding cities. It gives citizens the choice to deliver where they might. To the mayor mayor elect statement about quality development, I agree.
A lot of a lot the things I hear is for quality development as well. But I, you know, I also hear lots of eyes. And for me, that's just feedback, knocking doors of late, and being even though I wasn't up for election, being up here at the polls as well, and it's definitely a concern. So just sharing that. But I appreciate both of you all's comments. Thank you.
Thank you. Texas values local control, but we also value property rights. And they have a property right. And they have a property right to make sure that their community stays safe. And building this at 36,000 because some lady somewhere in this city sent out a naughty email that got everybody bothered up, that's not actually factually true, will hurt their property right.
So they've got a property right. Texas values local control as much as they value property rights. And the problem happening, quite honestly, and I'm just being candid because that's the discussion in Austin is cities, including Keller, sometimes do a poor job of balancing those two. And so then that's when you have people down in Austin who frankly to your point, councilman, don't have experience sitting in this dais and having these conversations that pass a law that they try to cure a problem down in Houston, but ultimately impact cities like Keller. But examples like this one only strengthens that argument from most people.
So I absolutely value local control as much as you do. I value property rights I think just as much as you do. How you balance that with the interest and how do you try to evaluate everything on its own considering the fact that there are unique circumstances just like in this one. That's the balancing act that I think Keller can rise to. And frankly, I don't think right now we're ready to do it as a council.
So the motion that I've got, and I recognize the other folks, is going to be frankly just to table this because I don't think we're ready as a council. And to be candid, it sounds like there might be some things that maybe can be worked on with the landowners and the group that's bringing it forward to maybe address some of your guys' concerns. Because it sounds like they're they're trying to do everything they can to do that. So that was gonna be my motion, but and frankly, also because we don't have an entire council. We're gonna have a new mayor. We're gonna have two additional council members. So I would hate for this to be delayed to hurt the landowner and hurt the neighbors who are gonna be mostly impacted by that. Mayor Alec, you had a Yeah.
Just a really quick I'll be a little bit more direct. I I do have substantial concerns with how we're handling this application. And my question for colleagues, and maybe this is the reason we table, is I just don't one of the things we're supposed to do is give really direct feedback to folks when they come in. The residents from Harmonson, our applicant, I don't think they're getting direct feedback. I'm getting some incongruence. In September '25, essentially, my takeaway was, k. You know, get towards Greenway Park. They're at SF 20. They come in and they offer to go to average of 20,000 square foot lots. Is it an apples to apples direct?
Is it exactly the same project and exactly the same lot size? No, it's not. But I think those are the types of questions that beg consideration. And I really don't like talking just to talk guys. It's my daughter's fifth birthday.
I'd much rather be at home celebrating her birthday. But I would ask you to consider it because they've gone through a lot and these residents are entitled to to know, you know, kind of what what our expectations are. And if we can't find some compromise for a project like this, buckle up for when we do the future land use plan discussion because it's gonna be really hard to develop what little remaining land is left in Keller. So for that reason, I'd beg you to consider mayor's motion to table. And I'll second.
I have a motion to second the additional discussion. Yeah.
Couple things. I just so to be to respond to mayor's comment, I didn't vote or I'm not speaking the way I am because of an email that was sent out with 45. Matter of fact, I think I'm kind of the quintessential example of someone that listens. I just voted for Roseberry six months ago, which was a high density here in North Keller off 377 because I thought it fit the area. And so for me, this isn't about responding to some specific thing.
It's just the way I feel about this position or this location. And as far as feedback, I'm all for tabling it. If they're willing to work with us, maybe we can find a place because if we can find a happy medium that at least gets to four votes, that's fine. I'm for tabling it, especially if they're willing to work for us, but I've provided my feedback. Oh, I'm not tabling it, but it's his motion. Yeah. He'll need to pick a date. But I was just saying I'm I'm fine with that. But you'll need to pick a date, mister mayor.
Yep. Thank you, mister Your motion. Councilwoman Brennan. Councilman Will.
Yeah. And and I agree with tabling it as well. I'm asking that you look at what you can do to reduce the number of homes and just get a little bit more space between the houses. Everything else is lovely, really, it's just the big homes and the narrow lots, and so you know, obviously you're a business and you know, you can't, you you have to make money, I'm not gonna make it about that, but do see what you can to reduce the number of homes from 59 down to something else.
Let me ask my colleagues, because I've got a motion to table. What what date are are you guys? Because I I know we've got the nineteenth, but I'm not sure if that's gonna be that's probably too soon for discussions. Then we've got a runoff election that doesn't take place till The thirteenth. The thirteenth. So would it be
the to help. Right? So
the next meeting is at June 19? Or when is our next
The council will be July.
Oh, really? So what is it? July what? Okay. So are you guys looking at July 7? Okay. Yes. And I understand arrangements and options and all that. But the issue is the next meeting is going to be too soon for discussions. In June, you're not going to have a full council. So that's just the next available meeting. So I mean it's enough time for discussions, would assume, but I understand that there's going to have to be arrangement with the property owners too. So does July 7 work?
Yes, sir.
Okay. So my motion to table will be for this item to come back July 7. Mayor elect? I'll second. Got a motion to second. Any discussion? We'll take a vote. Okay, sir. So that item is stable till July 7. Thanks for your patience, and thanks for the neighbors for sticking out with us. I appreciate it. I would encourage you. We wanna hear from feedback to, you know, we're all gonna have different opinions. I love him just as much. I hope Shannon still loves me as much as he did before this discussion. I'm sure he does.
I'd like my campaign donation back.
I will I will encourage you all, however, to truly have a conversation with your neighbors. Because if this is something that you feel the majority of your neighborhood is for, you're gonna need that type of discussion. And to meet with them as well, I think it's gonna be important. And also meet with your colleagues, your folks on the council. They they probably wanna hear from you between now and then. Okay? So thank you all. Appreciate it. Thanks for coming out tonight. Fourth item is going to be tabled. On
the FLUP item, because it needs to go with the zoning item.
So we need to put
a public hearing.
Yeah. Okay.
Okay. Fourth item is a public hearing. Consider resolution approving a future land use plan amendment for mixed use medium dense mixed use medium density single family square foot and low density square foot lots and low density single family 36,000 square foot lots. So it's for the prior item we just heard. We'll leave we'll make a motion to table this item for July 7 while also leaving the public hearing open. Councilwoman Wally? Motion to table. Thank you, sir. Councilman Duberle.
I second. Okay. Take a vote.
Thank you. And then I think there is action to be taken, right, from the executive action. Do we have a resolution? Did someone was someone given a resolution? Okay.
Do we need to adjourn
So we're going back to the citizen survey results?
No. We're gonna push that to the next meeting.
Adjourn to work session. We
got a we got that resolution to the executive.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Sorry. He's he's gonna pull it up.
Let me hand that down to Kelly.
Does someone wanna
take a stab or
you got actual language? Okay.
So I'll make a motion to pursuant to the Executive Session Item 1A, the motion is to approve an amendment to the twenty six-twenty seven Keller fee schedule. Sorry.
Do that five-six, not six-seven. Jumping ahead.
Okay. Making a motion to approve an amendment to the twenty five-twenty six Keller fee schedule by adjusting the water and wastewater fees and providing an effective date. Is that good? Oh, he left. We're good? Makes sense for Seth? Okay. Perfect. So that'll be the motion. Is there a second? Or Councilor Watley? Motion to approve. Okay. Councilwoman Brennan?
I second.
Alright. Got a motion to second. We'll take a vote. Okay. So that's done. We're and we don't have any work sessions. So I think we're adjourned. Is there a motion to adjourn?
More session. We we're going move that.
We're going move that. Yeah.
Motion to adjourn.
Okay. Second. We're adjourned.
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