Director of Aviation - Regular Meeting

Welcome to TIO. My name's Kevin O'Neill. I'm the chair. My colleagues?

Lindsay French, 2nd District at Large.

Eric Bunch, 4th District. Jonathan Duncan, 6th District. Staff?

Bertha Roth, City Clerk's Office.

Jeff Martin, City Manager's Office. Andrew Bronkowski, Law Department.

Hi, McGee and Creole Department.

That's it. All right. We'll go to the first item.

Ordinance 260656 authorizing the Manager of Procurement Services to execute a $1,724,737 contract with U.S. Engineering Services to provide KCI terminal HVAC and plumbing maintenance, authorizing the Manager of Procurement Services to amend and extend the contract and authorizing the Director of Aviation to expand appropriated funds for the contract.

Before I let you go forward, let me, we are holding 260535 for two weeks and the general discussion on transportation issues was going to include the update on the jail, but we did not notice that in time for the meeting. So, we're going to move that to next week. So, thank you.

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. I am Michelle Maximilian, procurement manager with General Service Department. I also have Deputy Adam Freeman with the Aviation Department with me. This contract, EV4394, will provide terminal HVAC and plumbing maintenance for KCI. We are requesting to exceed $1 million annually per CD code. The annual spent for this contract, it's $1 million. 727, 724, 737. The CD issued an RFP on December 2nd, 2025, and it closed on January 5th, January 1st, 2026. Four suppliers responded. They are the Freeman Company, DBA, MCOR Service, Heckman, Lipper Mechanical Service, LLC, P1 Service LLC, and the U.S. Engineering Service LLC. The final award was made to U.S. Engineering Service LLC for one year, contract-based with five one-year renewal options. I will now turn the presentation over to Adam to cover more information on the project and scope requirements.

Do you guys, do you have something on, nevermind. Please continue.

Yes, absolutely. Good morning, Chairman O'Neill, council members. So this is for the terminal HVAC and plumbing maintenance, primarily the larger equipment, larger plumbing items that we have for that for the new terminal, which at some point we're going to have to stop calling the new terminal and just calling it the terminal, but old habits are hard to break. This will provide the labor, material, and equipment necessary for the operation and maintenance for the facility. They will be responsible for identifying and executing proper maintenance and operating procedures, enroll parameters of all equipment and systems in the scope of work, and develop and maintain digital records of all work performed within the preventative maintenance schedule and provide on-site management for communications with KCAD staff, emergency repairs, and ancillary needs for KCAD. Additional supplier responsibilities include safety and security, pre-project planning, training and personnel, onsite safety management, monitoring and documentation, annual sensor calibration, central utility plant seasonal testing, and quarterly BAS review.

Any questions? I think you have members of US Engineering in the, if you guys wouldn't mind standing up, proud members of Local 8 and maybe 533 or just 8.

Thank you for having us and thank you for the opportunity and .

Appreciate it gentlemen, I think we're good. Any questions from my colleagues? If not, I would entertain a motion. Yeah, public comment. Pardon me? No. Oh, public testimony, yes.

No public testimony.

It's been a while. Yeah, Mr.

Chair, I move that ordinance number 260656 be reported out of committee of the recommendation in advance and be passed. Second. All those in favor?

Aye. All those opposed? The ordinance passes. Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen. All right. Have a great day. You too.

One second.

Is this a hold? Isn't this a hold? No. No. We held it for one week. Oh, we did.

And this is a committee cell.

No, I mean, didn't we hold it for a week?

This is a committee cell.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

There's a committee cell that Ms. Mason and I worked on that she'll go over.

Just, well, never mind. I'm sorry. You're good. I was going to say for time's sake, but we got plenty of time.

I'll be quick. Don't worry. Well, I'll be quick. No promises on the discussion.

It's raining today.

You're not going to go, are you?

Yes, we still need to. It's raining outside. It's always raining. We're just waiting for the committee set up. I think so. We got to work. Yes. We're waiting for the committee set up so I can read the answer, the record, the new one.

We're waiting for it. Committee substitute copies. I think they're just running copies. A little long ordinance. I think they're just finishing those up. Those should be down any moment. We can discuss that right now.

I can see how important that is.

Well, we're in a hurry. We've got a big agenda.

Oh, yeah, right. We'll remember that once people ask to wait.

Committee sub 260508. I don't have it.

Oh, you don't have it. Yes, it is. So how long will this be?

Anticipated them already being here.

Well, the title, can we still read the ordinance, read the title, and give Ms. Nace the time to do the presentation? Can we do that?

Yes.

So this is the Committee Sub for Electric Bicycle and Micromobility Regulations. The Committee Sub is 260508.

Hello. Good morning, Chair O'Neill, members of the committee. Catherine Nace, Policy Director for Mayor Lucas. And today I'll be presenting on the Committee Sub for Ordinance 260508. Can you all hear me okay? Okay, great. So I'm going to, for the sake of time, again, I can rehash anything that we went through last week, but I wanted to start with the specific items that we discussed. So I'll kind of just go through those one by one, and then we'll kick into the explicit changes in the committee sub. So, Councilman O'Neill, to specifically address your question about if we can mandate businesses posting certain educational requirements. Talk with the law department and basically any type of requirement for that posting has to be four things. Uncontroversial, factual, can't be an undue burden, and it has to have a legitimate government interest. All of those things apply here, especially if we're really just sharing what is our code? What are the requirements? What are the speeds? What are the age restrictions? This would really mirror how we did that with the tow lot ordinance and kind of went through what the what our code is saying certain rights, things of that nature. So we could have, you know, one flyer or a handout and have businesses distribute those. and have it applicable to any business that's engaging in the sale or advertisement. And that would walk through these four items, so definitions, restrictions, responsibilities, and the enforcement component.

So that is within the... It's in the new language. The amendment.

Yep. And then Councilwoman Robinson, to your point about just general traffic enforcement and kind of where we're at with it, I wasn't sure if we wanted to parse this out further, but just wanted to show general trends of where KCPD is with their traffic unit enforcing speeding. It looks like there was an uptick earlier this year compared to last year, but it seems like they're evening out as far as speeding tickets in the current months.

And is there anyone from KCPD to speak to this? I know some of the data that you have, it is through June 30th, is that what?

Yes, I got this specifically from the Traffic Enforcement Office, and they gave me the raw numbers, and then I created the table.

I'm curious, did you ask someone what's driving the steep? inactivity? I didn't, no. Okay. Okay. All right. Thank you. I can talk to them offline.

I guess just to clarify, this is speeding enforcement due to e-bikes, scooters?

General. Just, yeah, kind of just general context of how we're doing enforcement-wise on speeding. Just, yeah. Okay.

So vehicular?

Correct. Okay.

It just wasn't clear. Maurice is in the back.

Oh, is he? Oh. Well, Captain, make it happen.

We're making Captain Otis work a lot with this one.

Thank you. I was looking for you. You have to come to the front of the class. Okay.

It's my fault. I told you you were there. Yeah.

I don't know exactly. I can't ask the traffic enforcement squad. complaints about a particular area, or a lot of areas, and then we'll see officers actually. About closer.

It's not catching that very well.

Officers will saturate the areas. Mic's not working. It's on. Kept a notice for you.

Just come forward to the chair.

Yeah.

You can just sit at the chair for us.

All right, this is better, okay.

Yeah, a lot of times you'll see spikes whenever we have a lot of community complaints about speeding in particular areas and we do a traffic enforcement project in a particular area. So this could be due to that, but I can't be 100% sure on that. But I'm pretty sure it's something in that nature.

Yeah, that would be helpful if you all could provide some clarity because it is a pretty significant decline from $2,300 to, you know, down to, I don't know. Yeah, $1,300, $1,400. Yeah. So just to thank you for getting back with us on that. Yep.

Okay. Another thing that we had discussed is really giving people time to get used to the new regulations, the new requirements, kind of have that. Educational period and so adding in 120 day effective delayed effective date, which also helps with kind of that business posting requirement helps with making it undo an undue burden and just gives folks general time for us to do outreach before we start doing any enforcement. And then as far as the research on age restrictions, I know there's a lot going on and was able to find some research. We're actually, we kind of have our finger on the pulse as far as the national discussion around e-bikes. There is a lot of ongoing conversation around what is the appropriate speed, who should be riding them. Unfortunately, some of the bodies that we would look to to make those formal recommendations have actually said there's not enough research to really know what speed yet, and there's not enough data to know what age we would cut off at, specifically the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American College of Surgeons. But we were able to pull a few specific studies that did kind of get at what age range would make the most sense in this first bullet looking at youth really being overrepresented in the whole entire state of Minnesota through a study that was commissioned by their legislature. And then again, seeing youth and minors 18 to 15 overrepresented in a couple of municipalities in California. So really in general seeing that the incidents are overrepresented compared to their portion of the population. There also unfortunately has been a huge uptick in e-bike related injuries from 2019 to 2023. There was a 4% to 50% increase. I think also part of that is probably due to the increase in usage more broadly. And I would also like to note, I know, the focus of this research was looking at the age restrictions, but there actually was a lot of data out there as well on just general injuries and unfortunately fatalities that really went all through the age range. So really thinking about, yes, we're trying to protect our youth, but how can we incentivize and push for better safety for everyone? The key thing here really is the second to last bullet where it's at age 15 to 16. This was recommended by the American Academy of Pediatrics that marked improvement in speed judgment and device control really happens around that age. So kind of getting at what age are we cutting off at? obviously that makes a lot of sense that's when folks are starting to get their license starting to drive but one of the key indicators for injuries and fatalities was high speed and lack of device control so kind of in conjunction with this recommendation the 15 16 age range seems um appropriate And then to kind of summarize all of them, all of the studies basically at a high level said yes, categorize these devices based on speed and power, put in age limits, and require helmets. Again, wasn't explicit on what those categories looked like or those specific age limits, but I think that we've been able to glean enough from our ongoing regional conversations, what we've talked about here, to feel like we're moving in the right direction and addressing these recommendations. And then finally, the fifth item that we discussed was the education campaign and associated funding. I think the ideal path from the perspective of the office of Mayor Lucas is to push forward the free options that are available at this point, knowing that we can always come back and then allocate funds in the future if we don't feel like free resources are really adequately addressing the educational component, but because Some of these already exist and are out there and are put together by partners that are connected in the community. Really taking that as kind of a first step for the educational component to not pull funds from other sources. Okay, so those are kind of the five things that we explicitly talked about. Now I'm gonna switch into what explicitly ended up into the new committee sub. So we originally had just kind of two categories and I think that's where it got kind of murky as the e-bikes were a part of the micro mobility definition and it was creating, I think, a little bit of confusion. So how it's written now is there's three categories. We have e-bikes, that's pretty straightforward, micro mobility, think about smaller devices, slower speed, and then we have the e-motos. So just kind of clarifying those definitions for especially when it comes to how we are going to have speed and age restrictions. It keeps in the new definitions that were added in the original committee substitute that I presented on two weeks ago. So adding in electric scooter, unicycle, electric motorcycle, things of that nature. Again, just making sure that our code and our definitions are really matching the current state of things and the use of these types of devices. Due to the research policy recommendations, thinking about feasibility of implementation, we're looking now, language saying only Only having the age restriction that you have to be 16 or older to ride a class three e-bike. Understanding that I know part of the conversation that we had in a point that Councilman Bunch brought up is that it can be kind of hard to distinguish between all of the different classes of bikes that can go different speeds. But a lot of the regional conversation and research is really saying that the 20 miles per hour is the kind of pinpoint where there's more injuries, more potential for fatalities, and higher risk for our youth. So trying to balance both of those. We also have specific speed limits for these three categories. So the first one is sidewalks. The second is bike lanes and trails. And the third would be streets. And I have that outlined in a graph on the next page. And this would really align with, again, kind of what the research, the little bit of research that's out there is showing us at this point, getting something on the books, something that we can start tracking. seeing if it's curbing behavior, and then we can always go from there. And then, yeah, Councilman O'Neill, to your point, require the education posting at businesses, but again, giving businesses 120 days to meet that requirement. So here's where things are at as far as the age and location thresholds. And one thing to think about is we do have some age limits here, but thinking more at a high level, how we want to have safe sidewalks, safe bike lanes, safe streets. For those of us that drive, I drive a car that could go up to maybe 120 miles per hour I'm not sure if I would want my Nissan Sentra to try to do that, but just because it can go that quickly doesn't mean it should, so how are we putting in limits in place? So looking sidewalks really just to be 15 miles per hour across the board, bike lanes and trails, 20 miles per hour across the board and then the streets as the listed speed limit for that area And then again those those age restrictions that I already discussed, but of course Motorcycles emotes things of that nature would require 16 year old to have a license. I Also, more explicitly added in what enforcement would look like. I know this is something that we did talk about and not necessarily explicitly in adding in new language, but I think having it more prescriptive in how we want to approach enforcement here is better for us to make sure it's getting at the policy approach we're trying to reach. So kind of outlining similarly in a way to our truancy code, because it kind of falls onto the responsible parent if a kid is chronically truant. So looking at some of that language in the code and then also looking at some of our example diversion programs where folks can participate in a class and they waive a citation because the ultimate goal is education, making sure people are staying safe. So kind of this is our graduated enforcement that's currently written in the new committee substitute. So the first violation warning, we can add in sharing the education, sharing here's what the code is. Second violation would be citation with an opportunity to waive the citation if you participate in a class. This is something that I was able to discuss with the city prosecutor that would be feasible. There are existing policies and procedures for how our court vets a multitude of courses and refers folks to that kind of diversion to waive a citation. So we kind of already have that, obviously, that infrastructure existing. And then the third violation would go to how we would enforce any code violation with the citation and the fee. Third and onward. And that's where I landed, and I tried to focus specifically on the outstanding items, but of course can answer any questions.

I would just thank you for addressing all of our concerns that I'm aware of, but I would ask my colleagues if they have any questions.

I just want to, I forwarded you this, the committee, this email from Matthew Muckenthaler, which are the seven recommendations from the Multimodal Transportation Committee, which this committee sub hits all of them. The first one is clearly defined e-bikes versus e-motorcycles. The second one is ensure the 20 mile per hour threshold is the appropriate threshold. And I think that's been addressed regarding the fact that I think Councilman Bunch has correctly pointed out that most of these e-bikes, when they move to the next class, they are governed at like 28 miles an hour. and then the support public education alongside regulation. Clarify enforcement procedures, which I think was the last slide. Consider equity and youth impacts. This is particularly, their concern was They stated that the ordinance includes restrictions on riders under the age of 12, operating devices exceeding 20 miles an hour. The city should evaluate how enforcement will affect youth riders and ensure that education and outreach accompany any new restrictions. Their seventh point is maintain support for active transportation. And they clarify that by saying, the committee consistently advocates for biking, walking, and multimodal transportation. Any ordinance should improve safety while avoiding unintended consequences that discourage lawful e-bike use as a transportation option. So I think overall their formal comment is that they support efforts to improve safety regarding this ordinance. and recommends that the ordinance just clearly define the traditional e-bikes and high-powered e-motorcycle devices, which I think has correctly been addressed here.

I just have a quick question. I'm not very mechanically inclined, so I would ask is the governor on these different levels of bikes, I know it's capped, like you said, 28 miles per hour. Is that, can you pull up a YouTube video and determine how to uncap it and add,

Oh, yeah, absolutely. I think that's I mean, I don't know if it would be someone that could do it. I guess it depends on how handy you are. But yeah, unfortunately, that's a lot of the what I think we're probably actually seeing on on the streets are kind of those jailbroken e-bikes that aren't being. ridden the way that they were created, which is unfortunate for people that are riding the e-bikes responsibly, and obviously increased risk. What we do have in the ordinance is that once you modify, tamper, or something of that nature to an e-bike, it automatically bumps it up to that e-moto classification, which then requires license, registration, things of that nature. So unfortunately, yes, but I think that we're trying the best we can to make it clear that that that's not that we're going to enforce.

And I would ask Maurice, as a police officer and you stop somebody, how would you know if they've tampered with the governor or if you if you can at all?

We wouldn't directly be able to tell if they tamper with them unless they're actually exceeding the speed limit.

Okay, so radar is about the only way you could tell if they're... Yes. Okay.

I will note that during... I joined two different coalition meetings from Mark last week that included Bike Walk KC, surrounding municipalities, other organizations. in this ongoing conversation. And one thing that they talked about and that I learned is that there's actually a couple easy tells for that. And it's like switching the handles of like which one is the accelerator versus the brake. So I think there are some things that people may be a little more in the scene than I am will know. But I think that as far as having that kind of explicitly stated here, we just kind of kept it general modification and that could be a part of kind of our education

I would love to see just some education to the police officers on the streets that are actually being forced. I'd love to see some kind of education in this, Councilman.

Mr. Chair, are you just wanting to jailbreak and evict?

I want to learn. I need to know.

I'm trying to get my golf cart up to 45 miles an hour. I will say real quick. Oh, go ahead.

No, go ahead.

Going back to that information, I did pick up some information about the spike that occurred. So with the manpower issues that we had beforehand, a lot of things, there was a ripple effect. So the traffic officers became responsible for traffic accidents to help free up the officers who just work in the streets to handle calls for service because they take up a lot of time. And it's a non-criminal element. It's an accident. That's why they call them accidents. So they were able to handle the accidents, but that also took them away from doing traffic enforcement with community complaints that were occurring, because they were limited. increase that we got we're able to free up some time so they're doing traffic accidents but now in their free time they can go back and handle community complaints so if there's a speed enforcement opportunity to happen they can now do those things you saw the drop down occur because we started training outside agencies on how to do escorts preparing for FIFA World Cup so kind of baseline back out because they now didn't have the free time to go out and actually do the projects

Yeah, I thought that the World Cup was a driver and the reason why I asked about the June 30th date. So, but you're saying that they were doing a lot of preparation activity that kept them away from the job? Yes. All right. That makes sense. I know she had a question. I have a couple, but I'll go after her. Go ahead.

Okay. My questions are just around the educational campaign. I know you had said that it's been recommended not to put funding towards an educational campaign and kind of be reliant upon the existing content and resources that were stated before, including from Bike & Walk KC. A lot of that information, I gather, was a lot of regional best safety practices, and it's all really good, and it's great information to have out there. How are we then going to, other than just having these postings at businesses get education out there on basically what we're changing as policy and how that looks and kind of the rules and regulations that we're setting forth and then the enforcement that goes along with that?

Yeah, absolutely. Great question. I think that's something where, and I know folks have maybe had different levels of success, but we really would look to our communications department. You know, they're the communicators on behalf of the city, and I think looking at that, collaboration that I think our office and our comms team is happy to collaborate with and kind of keep pressure applied. But I think we all know there's new leadership and Andrew has done a wonderful job and so I would really look to the comms department to help develop some of those external materials and help push some of that out.

And they have the staff and time and resources to do so. I know they're busy with lots of other things as well.

It wasn't a question that I asked explicitly. Okay.

To do within the next 120 days and then to be able to kind of deploy that information so people aren't caught off guard?

Yeah, I didn't get a confirmation from the communications department on that specifically.

Okay. I mean, it would be nice to do so and to see if this is possible within the next 120 days.

I can reach out. Yeah, I think I would probably look to city manager staff to probably answer that question. That's a little bit more of an administrative implementation side thing than something that I would speak to.

Yeah, we'll have to reach out and see if that's something they're able to accomplish or not.

um thank you mr chair thank you so much for your patience and i really really appreciate the data because it really does show that we're moving in the right direction um so i'm again as excited as i was when you presented the first time about moving forward with this i too want to build on councilman french her questions and concerns about education right Because we know that the mayor's office has worked really, really hard to take laws off the books that are hurting marginalized communities. And so when the Multimodal Transit Committee came back with the recommendation around considering youth and considering equity and making sure that we're focusing our education efforts to make sure that they're aware of that, we want to continue that progressive nature of making sure that we're not, you know, putting people in a position to where they're having to have that enforcement. And we know that education drives down the need for enforcement, right? we want to prevent folks on the front end from not having to have that interaction and that costs resources it costs money um when we talk about the reduction that will show with the with the traffic study or not study but the the how you all are implementing uh traffic regulations The explanation is about manpower, right? And having to be diverted away from other things. So I am concerned that we're adding another layer for KCPD to do without providing the adequate funding and resources to help them with that. So I just, and again, that's not a knock on KCPD. They're doing a yeoman's job. We had a presentation. yesterday from the commanders where you have less than 15 officers that are answering I can't even remember the number. It was a really, really- Astronomical, I'm sure. Astronomical. Think about, I think he said 13 to 14 officers in one month's time. The number of calls that they're answering is tremendous. And so we have to listen while we work. And we're listening to the pain points of the communication department, asking them to do certain things, It's hard. Like, yes, it's an administrative piece. But if we know that we're they're saying to us already, they can't keep up with the workload. And then we're asking them to do this without the external resource. So I would just offer and I know that the mayor, which I also support. and recognize that we have to be fiscally responsible, right? But we need a plan. We need an educational plan. So if we could offer a 30-day callback from the manager's office to talk about how are we going to leverage those existing resources that are going to be utilized? How are we going to focus on? And I hope that you're taking this down because I do want to offer it as a committee substitute to this, that we're focusing on young people and we're focusing on areas that do have inequities as it relates to enforcing our current laws that are on the books. I'm also interested in paid media. How much would it take to educate our city on this utilizing paid media and also a staffing plan? What does that look like? Who's going to be responsible for ensuring that this ongoing education happens. Um, I'm not a police officer, but I think that, you know, they would appreciate us doing our work on the front end to educate folks so that they don't have to do the enforcement on the back end and that they're there. Um, when folks know better and they just choose not to do better. Right. Um, so I would like to offer that, and I hope that you got all those pieces, but then I hope that my colleagues would support on having more specifics regarding the educational plan.

I concur with Councilman Robinson. I think it's the right thing to have city manager. I mean, we have a new comms director. Let's see what the new comms director can come up with, right? I mean, this is within the wheelhouse. We should be able to to promulgate this new, what I think is going to set the stage for a regional change in how we address this issue.

I would also agree. And I think one of our problems that we often run into is we set up laws and we don't put compliance with them. So these laws go on the books, but they're never really focused on the compliance of those laws. So I guess I would ask you to define a little more of exactly how you see the 30 days bringing back to us what?

Yes, and so just to go through those again, one, what would be the cost of an integrated campaign to ensure that our overall city is covered as it relates to education to this matter? Last time you came before us, we had talked about maybe looking at external resources to help us with folks who understand how to do this work. So that might be an option. But looking for the manager to provide some direction on how we're going to implement an educational campaign to include focusing on youth that are below the age of 18 in all parts of our city, paid media, One thing that I left off when I was talking before is collateral production and support and a staffing plan. And if he could come back with what that would cost and how he would, as to your point earlier, how he would administer the education campaign within 30 days so that we have that well before the enforcement starts.

Yeah.

Does that help?

Yes. I would ask this question. I see we're almost, I mean we're talking about the same thing but in two different phases, right? We're talking about implementation and then compliance, right? I'd like to see this passed out as is if we could add a, either an amendment or a resolution or whatever for the actual compliance piece of this. Are you saying a separate resolution? I don't know. That's what I'd like to talk to you, see what, how we, I want to make sure this gets out, right?

Yes, and I agree that I would want to vote. We don't want to hold it up any longer. My request last, when we met last, was to talk to us about an education campaign and what the cost would be. So it was very clear about that, and I understand the fiscal conservative nature in utilizing existing resources. And so that's what we came back with, just saying, okay, we want to utilize existing resources. There's already educational material that's presented. What I'm saying is that we need more. And let's just add that if we, I mean, as a committee sub, to say, Mr. Manager, come back in 30 days. Let us know how much it's going to cost in these things.

There's a delay for 120 days for this to actually break. That's true. Right. We'll have time to come to implement the plan.

Yeah. All right. All about educational campaigns. I'm telling you, it's been two years since we passed the ordinance directing the city manager to do the crosswalk campaign. It has not happened. I just will continue harping on that because I think that it is disappointing and frustrating to have something that... Also, I'm just going to say that I'm going to support this. I think that it's important, but we are spending a lot of time talking about this, but How many Emoto fatalities have we seen caused by Emoto? But how many have we seen of drivers killing people on our streets? I'm just going to say that I want us to focus on the problems that are very real. This is a real problem, for sure. I'm not saying that this is a solution in search of a problem. But I am saying that we're spending a lot of time focusing on something that really is representing a very small number of injuries and fatalities. Looking for my crosswalk campaign.

Okay, thank you. And I agree that, you know, we need the crosswalk campaign. But I also am very passionate about the disparity of pedestrians that are being hurt in the third district. So when you're talking, you're talking about the people that I represent. And the issue is sidewalks. that they don't have, yes, crosswalk campaigns, I agree with that. However, if we wanna talk about the fatalities and what's happening, and yes, we need more speeding control, we need all the things, but I become, you know, in a position where, you know, I do have to speak up and advocate to say that we decide to put in infrastructure and we're not prioritizing oftentimes pedestrians when we put in infrastructure and we need more sidewalks. And this is disproportionately impacting the third district. It's disproportionately impacting people who don't have the money to even purchase a scooter. All they have is their legs in a bus. That's all they have. And so when I'm supporting hundreds of millions of dollars for things in other districts that are not supporting pedestrians, I have a challenge with folks who are not supporting at least to educate. You know, folks that need to know about this before they interact with officers. So I know that we're not trying to go there. I support this. Add me as a co-sponsor. So there's no ambiguity around that.

Thank you, Councilwoman.

But when we bring up people and pedestrians that are being hurt, it's because of real investments. And not $500,000, not $100,000. It's about millions of dollars of sidewalk infrastructure that we need.

No one has fought for more money for sidewalks than I have. So I'm not quite sure why I'm the person who this is targeted at.

I'm not targeting you at all. And I'm not targeting you. I'm saying specifically that if you want to bring it up, Let's talk about what the real causes are, because this is, don't feel targeted. What you should be feeling is that somebody who represents this district, and when we talk about fatalities, I'm gonna bring up the root cause. And that's the issue, is that we have an over-dependency on public transit versus access to a car, and so people have to walk. Okay? And so, and I've been very careful about my words so that there is no targeting of anybody.

All right. Appreciate the dialogue. I would ask if there's any more questions. If not, I would ask for public testimony and read the, yes.

No public testimony.

Thank you for saving me, Bertha, all the time. No problem.

Committee sub for ordinance number 260508, amending chapter 70 code of ordinance by repealing and replacing section 70-1 definitions and amending chapter 70 code of ordinance by enacting a new section 70-78. 706 entitled electric bicycles rights and privileges label requirements modifications require new label product safety standards authorized to ride wear exceptions class 3 by electric bicycles special provisions for the purpose of updating and adding definitions providing operating requirements and establishing rights and privileges associated with electric bicycles micro mobility devices and electric motorcycles in alignment with state law and directing the city manager to coordinate distribution of public safety education material regarding electric bicycles and micro mobility devices throughout Kansas City.

I would entertain a motion.

One question, just to confirm that committee subsidy will include the amendment as a new Section 10, I imagine, as offered by the Councilwoman. And second, perhaps we might want to also include that in the title as directing a report back within 30 days.

Yes.

Is that okay?

Yeah, I'm amenable. I mean, I'll look to the other co-sponsor as well, but yes, I would be amenable to adding that. I think it makes a lot of sense. I think it's a great choice, yeah. I think it definitely makes it stronger and gives us a number and framework to work from. Drew, I can get with you after because I took note of everything that the councilman said, and I can draft something that I think will capture what you were wanting.

And go.

Any questions? Any, are we good?

There was only one co-sponsor, correct?

You can add me too.

You can add me.

OK. I would, is there any public testimony? No public testimony. I would entertain a motion.

OK. Mr. Chair, I move that ordinance number or committee substitute for ordinance number 260 508 be reported on committee with the recommendation of advance and do pass.

Second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. All those opposed? Ordinance passes. Thank you. I think that's pretty transformative legislation. Great job. Great job, Ms. Nace.

Thank you all. Appreciate it. Oh, that was a loud one.

Did you say committee stuff?

I said committee stuff. Okay.

I didn't hear that. I'm so sorry. I caught it. I saw you work.