Director of Aviation - Regular Meeting

Tuesday, April 14, 2026

The committee discussed and passed several ordinances related to water services, including contracts for force main assessment, sewer separation design, and a citywide supplemental workforce. Additionally, an ordinance to adopt updated street plans and a Vision Zero action plan was passed, along with a discussion on expanding parking enforcement services.

About this meeting

Government Body
Director of Aviation
Meeting Type
Director Of Aviation
Location
Kansas City, MO
Meeting Date
April 14, 2026

Transcript

399 sections (from 427 segments)

0:00Speaker 1

Welcome to TINO. My name is Kevin O'Neill, chair, first district at large, and my colleagues.

0:07Speaker 2

Good morning. Melissa Robinson, third district vice chair.

0:11Speaker 3

Eric Branch, fourth district.

0:13Speaker 4

Jonathan Duckett, sixth District.

0:15Speaker 5

Good morning, Lindsay French, second District at large. And staff.

0:20Speaker 6

Berthel Ross, City Clerk's Office.

0:22Speaker 1

Jeff Martin, City Manager's Office.

0:23Speaker 7

Andrew Blankowski, Law Department.

0:26 – 0:42Speaker 1

Ken Morgan, water services department. Michael Salvo, works. All right. We will I don't think we have any holds today, so we'll go right to who was I? Jonathan here's got are we are we still

0:42Speaker 4

working on stakeholder engagement with that, so I would request, another week.

0:45Speaker 1

Okay. We're gonna hold, for one week.

0:51Speaker 1

Which one is that?

0:56Speaker 1

296. Yes. Uh-huh. Okay. Andy, if you oh, go ahead, Bertha.

1:07 – 1:29Speaker 6

260328, authorizing a chief procurement officer to execute a 1,500,000 professional specialized or technical service contract, which she did exit for the force force main assessment project authorizing four succession renewal options with further city council approval and recognizing this ordinance is happening in accelerated effective date.

1:35 – 1:59Speaker 9

Good morning, Chair and members of the committee. Andy Scheibeli with Water Services. And joining me at the table to my right is Mr. Jacob Growe, project manager with Water Services for Ordinance three twenty eight. I will just add that our federal consent decree requires a force main assessment program, so this ordinance helps us meet that requirement. And with that, I will turn it over to Mr. Jacob Grove.

1:59 – 2:27Speaker 10

All right. Thank you, Chair and members of the committee. This project is to assess the condition and verify alignment of our pressurized force mains in our system. Unlike our gravity system, where it is relatively straightforward to stick a camera in the pipe and get condition assessment data, For our force mains, it's a bit more of an involved process. The process for this project will include the insertion of an assessment device into the pipe.

2:28 – 3:14Speaker 10

This pipe will then be followed along the alignment with someone above ground, where they will be gathering X, Y and Z coordinates from the device as it travels along the pipe. This will allow us to update our alignment data and also provide us elevation data for the pipe. Along with the XYZ coordinates, it will provide us assessment data on the current condition of the pipe to help inform future rehabilitation decisions. This is part of a larger program that we're standing up for our force mains with this being the baseline data gathering project. And as mentioned, this will inform future rehabilitation decisions to prevent prevent future emergency repairs and get ahead of extending the life of our force main system.

3:18Speaker 10

Goals for this project were assigned at Form four, and utilization was approved at four and fifteen with hand tied them, and she digs at the prime.

3:29Speaker 9

And I will also add, Chair, that Mr. Dennis Johnson, when she digs it, is in chambers this morning.

3:38Speaker 1

For she digs it. Could you stand up? Thank you very much for coming. Appreciate it. Thank you, sir.

3:48Speaker 9

And with that, we're available for questions.

3:51 – 4:06Speaker 1

Okay. Going to that. Then, do

4:13 – 4:29Speaker 9

excited to about And this type of equipment as the companies that who have developed it, we're maintained their sole proprietorship of the technology and the equipment.

4:36Speaker 4

We're able world.

4:44Speaker 4

To that. And we're This will serve you so well

4:52Speaker 4

So it sounds very specialized.

4:56Speaker 11

Any other questions?

4:57Speaker 2

I just have one question, mister chair. The assessment project, will that be done once, or is this something that happens periodically?

5:07 – 5:18Speaker 10

This will be an ongoing project over multiple years, giving us a mechanism to conduct this assessment as needed, prioritizing the higher risk pipes first and then working our way through the system.

5:19Speaker 1

You talking?

5:19Speaker 10

Oh, yes. Audience.

5:21 – 5:33Speaker 2

So this will be done ongoing. So every year, we should anticipate the 1,500,000. And it's just it's kind of like how we assess the streets Correct. Yeah. Okay. Thank you.

5:34Speaker 12

Alright. Any

5:37Speaker 1

public testimony on this?

5:38Speaker 6

No public testimony.

5:40Speaker 1

I would entertain a motion.

5:41Speaker 2

Mr. Chair, move that order number two six zero three two eight be reported out of committee with the recommendation of advance and do pass.

5:47Speaker 1

Second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. All those opposed? Ordinance passes. Thank you. You're gonna be with us for a little bit, aren't you, Andy?

6:00 – 6:17Speaker 6

260329, authorizing the director of water services to execute a $4,000,000 design professional services contract with Brains and McDonald's engineering for the sewer separation project Brookside phase five project and recognizing this ordinance is having an accelerated effective date.

6:18 – 7:03Speaker 9

Good morning, chair and members of the committee. Andy Shively with Water Services. And joining me at the table to my right is mister Jacob Grow, the project manager. Ordinance three twenty nine authorizes a design professional services agreement with Burns and McDonnell, and Mr. Jacob Growe will cover the specifics of that later on. I'm going to cover a little bit of history since this project has a long history, not quite as long as Westport, but a very long history. So many of us remember the 10/04/1998 flood. It was highlighted because it was a nationally televised Sunday night football game between between the Kansas City Chiefs.

7:03Speaker 1

Most of these guys were still in diapers. So

7:06Speaker 2

I was a high school graduate

7:09Speaker 3

for In nineteen ninety

7:10Speaker 2

Six months. Six months.

7:12Speaker 12

Newly high school grad.

7:14Speaker 7

had I still had two

7:15Speaker 12

years. Still like that. No.

7:18Speaker 3

I was listening. I had I had a year and

7:19Speaker 2

a half. Oh, he I guess you have jokes from last week. Okay? He's giving us back. We're we apologize.

7:27 – 8:11Speaker 9

No worries. So was between the Chiefs and the Seahawks. What what occurred that night is 11 people didn't lose their lives. But following that storm, work was commenced on studying the area. So Brookside is in the Brush Creek Basin. And Brush Creek, Turkey Creek and Indian Creek were the three streams that flooded and caused those 11 deaths. So that started in March 1999, and then we have the August 2016 rain event. And this picture is in Brookside. So you can see the amount of water that flows through that area. In 2002, it was Phase one.

8:11 – 8:29Speaker 9

So this ordinance is for design of Phase five. Phase one is spot repairs throughout the 1,400 plus acre basin. In 2006, we did Phase II. In 2008, we jumped and did Phase IV. In 2009, we did Phase III.

8:29 – 9:06Speaker 9

In 'fifteen, Phase IIIb. And then we started the private side Keep Out the Rain program doing private side I and I removal on sixteenth through present. I will say that the residents of Brookside have been very cooperative, so kudos to them. And in that one in this one watershed, it's an estimated 7,000,000 gallons of inflow have been removed so far. And then what's in green is Phase five, and Mr. Jacob Growe will take it over from here.

9:08 – 9:25Speaker 10

Yes. Thank you, Chair, members of the committee. So while the entire Brookside project has an extensive history, Phase five also has a pretty lengthy history dating back twenty years. It started with design work in 2006. This design was completed and ready for bid in 2009.

9:25 – 10:09Speaker 10

However, the project was placed on hold due to budgetary constraints. In 2010, with a consent decree, this project was included, and a deadline was 20. Company. A strong for And so an additional study foundation with the burdensome MAX assistance was conducted to look at alternative alignments as well as project optimization. So from that study, a new alignment that deconflicted with the streetcar route was identified as well as some cost savings to maximize benefit with a little bit of reduction in capital expenditure.

10:09 – 10:56Speaker 10

And with that, in 2026, we are looking to start the full design of that alignment that was first mentioned in the 2018 study. And as mentioned, we do have a requirement under the consent decree for this project with the sewer separation of a little over 1,100 acres of the combined sewer system in this area and the reduction of approximately 67,000,000 gallons of combined sewer overflow. This project is estimated to reduce CSOs by approximately 190,000,000 gallons. It will involve several different scopes under the project. On top of the sewer separation, we'll also be looking at water main replacements in the area.

10:56 – 11:41Speaker 10

If we're going to be disturbing residents anyway, we want to make sure we can maximize infrastructure improvement with minimum disturbance. In addition to the design work, we'll be conducting any necessary field investigations to support those designs. We'll be hosting a variety of engagement activities in the worksite area to get residents involved and also conducting modeling, both to inform the design and verify the results once we complete the construction. For public engagement, we are wanting to pursue several different methods to make sure we have full buy in from the community. This one involves stakeholder meetings as well as one on one with affected residents and business owners.

11:42 – 11:59Speaker 10

There will be an online survey, open house events and a variety of communication materials that will be generated for distribution to the public. Goals for this project were set at ten and ten and approved at ten and ten. And with that, I'd be happy to answer any questions.

12:00Speaker 1

Just I just had a quickie. This is for design only, correct?

12:07 – 12:44Speaker 1

And in the past, is there a reason we're not doing a design build on this? Or is that are we just too deep into it that this is the way we've always done it and we have to continue that? And then and I'm correct, and this was actually started by a study from Burns and Mack who actually identified these issues and how to fix it and were the and the so there was no RFP giving in given in 02/2004 whenever this went out. It was based on their their plans that it came back to the city, and the city said, let's fix start this.

12:44Speaker 9

That is correct.

12:45 – 13:17Speaker 4

Councilman? So we had our PIAC premeeting last night. And, you know, since coming onto the council, I've learned more and more about the water issues surrounding Brookside, the neighborhoods. I mean, we have individuals that have houses in this corridor that water comes up to their floorboards when it rains. And so knowing that this is a major project and definitely needed, I support it.

13:17 – 13:53Speaker 4

I would like very in detail brief about what our plans are, just knowing that this is a major traffic corridor. There are many businesses in addition to residents, and I just kind of want a better understanding of what process is going to be and our phase in approach. We have the Morningside shops on 59th. We have Crestwood shops and numerous businesses along this corridor. So just want to get a better understanding of what we're going to do, how we're going to do it, but absolutely needed.

13:53 – 14:06Speaker 1

Yes. I can say that growing up here in 1978, there was another huge flood that even did more damage than the 'ninety eight floods. So this has been an ongoing issue for fifty, sixty years, probably before that.

14:06Speaker 4

My parents graduated high school in '74. Did they?

14:09Speaker 1

So did I. See, I'm not any older than your parents. Alright. Any other questions? Councilwoman.

14:17 – 14:42Speaker 2

Thank you. I know we have a long agenda, I'll try not to geek out too much but this is fascinating. On slide eight with keep out the rain with the 7,000,000 gallons of inflow removed, So can you tell us a little bit about what happened there with those more resident supported interventions?

14:43 – 15:16Speaker 10

Yes. Absolutely. The goal to keep out the rain program was to do to able we're do property owner level. And And with with the the reduction reduction that in we can

15:16Speaker 1

achieve in the

15:17Speaker 10

property private side, that would allow us to then have less of a need for the public side infrastructure project.

15:23Speaker 2

And the 7,000,000 gallons, what is the time component to that? Like 7,000,000 gallons over what period of time?

15:31Speaker 10

So that would be 7,000,000 in an average year of reduction in flow.

15:37 – 16:20Speaker 2

Wow. Okay. Well, I I would love to have more information about the keep out the rain program and what we're doing. In addition, Mr. Chair, there was another ordinance that I was going to request more information about all of the green infrastructure, so perhaps we can talk about both of those in a future presentation. But my last question is related to green infrastructure in this project. I know that this is close to and shout out to Corazon Coffee who's a new business at Westwood. But I wonder like, this is close to the trolley trail ish maybe?

16:21 – 16:34Speaker 2

That part? Okay. So I just wonder this is all tour that we're doing. Right? The design is called for more of the great infrastructure versus green.

16:35 – 16:49Speaker 10

That Part of the project will involve opportunities for the incorporation of green infrastructure as well. That way we can tackle it in a green way if there is the ability to involve green solutions on top of the gray infrastructure.

16:49Speaker 2

Okay. I don't see that on the project scope. And you know how I love my green infrastructure. So can we make sure that that's updated?

16:59Speaker 2

Okay. Wonderful. Thank you.

17:02Speaker 9

We we color coded it green, so that's

17:04Speaker 2

Oh, is that the green part? Okay. Green. Yeah. Well, I can't see the it's so small. You can't see the little

17:11Speaker 1

thing in the box. You're way too young.

17:13Speaker 2

Will never be able to read that in the box. What does it say? I thought it was a sewer. It is green. But what does it say?

17:22Speaker 1

It says phase one and

17:23 – 17:42Speaker 9

phase two. It says 2029. That's when we anticipate it going to construction, and that is the green phase. So when the the original die design was completed, it did not contemplate any green infrastructure Okay. Whatsoever.

17:42 – 18:18Speaker 9

But as part of Burns and McDonnell's scope under this ordinance, they will look at opportunities for green green infrastructure retention. There are sites that have been discussed, and But we just rest assured, we are looking at that. There's even been some ideas, I've heard, that we may not even need to go all the way to Brush Creek if we build green infrastructure and build storage along the way, which would be a significant cost reduction. So we'll achieve the sewer separation, the CSO control, and incorporate green infrastructure. So that's the goal.

18:18 – 18:29Speaker 2

So can we have it in writing, though? Because if it's not in writing, that means it didn't happen So or it's not going to happen. So can we make sure we incorporate it in the RAS?

18:29Speaker 9

Yes, ma'am. It'll be in in their scopes.

18:32Speaker 2

In scope in phase five?

18:33Speaker 9

It will be in the scope for phase five.

18:35Speaker 2

Okay. Alright. Thank you.

18:37Speaker 1

Thank you. Any other questions for my colleagues? With that, any public testimony? No. Public testimony. With that, I will accept an

18:47Speaker 4

what do we call them?

18:48Speaker 1

A vote? Associate. Associate.

18:49Speaker 2

Thank you. Okay. With No.

18:51Speaker 1

And I wanna say thank you, Jacob. We don't get you up front here very often, so thank you for your Absolutely.

18:55 – 19:07Speaker 2

Thank you. Okay. So with great enthusiasm, I move that ordinance number two six zero three two nine be reported out of committee with the recommendation of advance and do pass. Go ahead.

19:07Speaker 1

Before I, is there anybody from Burns and Mack here?

19:10Speaker 9

Is there mister Steve Stumpfitt with Burns and McDonnell who's in chambers?

19:13 – 19:27Speaker 1

Steve, thank you very much for attending. Appreciate it. No. Thanks. Okay. I would, any all those in favor? Aye. All those opposed? Ordinance passes. Thank you.

19:31Speaker 6

Next, please. 260333, authorizing an expenditure of $6,000,000 for the facility repair and maintenance contracts for

19:39 – 20:05Speaker 6

I apologize. You're You're right. 26332 authorizing the director of water services to execute a $2,000,000 construction contract with Lee and Sons for the citywide supplemental workforce fiscal year 2027 project authorizing the two successive renewal options preferred with further city council approval in establishing an ordinance effect establishing an ordinance effect effect.

20:06 – 20:31Speaker 9

Good morning, chair, members of the commit committee. Andy Shively with Water Services. And joining me at the table to my right is Mr. Kwanda Nguyen, the project manager with Water Services for Ordinance three thirty two. I will just say high level that this ordinance supports our own wastewater line maintenance crews for could the wondering

20:37Speaker 12

My first name is Qua. Q u a?

20:40Speaker 13

K h o a. And you can say it as q u a too. That that works too.

20:45Speaker 1

Yeah. Thanks, Qua. Yeah. Qua.

20:48 – 21:23Speaker 13

Yes, sir. Yeah. So the citywide workforce contract is an open cut ceramics and manhole replacement that's being performed throughout the city of Kansas City, Missouri. It was designed to assist and alleviate some of the workload pressures off of our maintenance division crew members. And as you already know, the majority of the work that they are done on their daily routines, So, a large portion that they did the work.

21:24 – 22:22Speaker 13

And but some of the work is much more complex and challenging. Some of the zero work is much more complex and challenging. So does where this contract come in is that it offers a much more specialized work where it requires much more larger, heavier equipment to do the work as well as advanced technical expertise. So by combining the our in house efforts with the specialized capabilities, we can accelerate the critical infrastructures repairs and while ensuring that our zero is being addressed in a safe and efficient and timely manner so that it would benefit the city. On our next slide, you can see that we have an issue with a clay pipe, 42 inch clay pipe that is broken.

22:22 – 23:08Speaker 13

We contact the contractor at moment notice and they were able to come out, make their repairs within a few days rather than having to wait weeks in order to get that repaired. Further right, you'll see that that is a five foot diameter manhole replacement, which require much more larger equipment to do the excavation and drop down the man the manhole. And then the last I mean, the last photo is yeah. Show as the area being finished with seating and mulches. Side that.

23:13Speaker 13

We're to do answer that. Any questions that you may have.

23:17Speaker 1

Can you go back to those three pictures that you had up there?

23:20 – 23:35Speaker 1

Yeah. Just the middle one. I gotta believe that Matt Harris, who's head of the plumbers out there, has got to be frothing at the mouth on that. It's it's kind of work. Any questions for my colleagues?

23:36 – 24:09Speaker 2

Just one. Or or I kinda wrote down a couple, but I'll try to ask them. So can you talk about the number of man hours and how many people this supplemental workforce impacts and the salaries? So if they were a KCMO employee, what would the salary be versus the contractor with them that we're contracting with?

24:11 – 24:32Speaker 9

So this project is a prevailing wage. So their union union labor wages were on on the contracting side, and I don't remember the comparison between the union labor wages and the wages of our maintenance workers and operators as a comparison between union labor and city labor?

24:32 – 25:51Speaker 2

Well, that's interesting because we've had a lot of conversations about in house in expanding our workforce so that a lot of these contracts, while we know we have to depend on the contracting community to help us with our work, especially in heavily subsidized areas. But the council has passed legislation regarding looking at some of the outsourcing. We specifically talked a lot in this committee about insourcing, and I believe that this might be one of the contracts that we continue to discuss annually. So not really knowing the salary differentiation is something that I would love for us to follow-up on and talk more about how do we ensure we're gonna talk about economic mobility in the city, city jobs, access to city jobs, city wages, and benefits is a direct opportunity for residents to experience economic mobility. So I think that when we're talking about a supplemental workforce, it gives us an opportunity to reevaluate how we can expand those jobs.

25:51 – 26:18Speaker 2

So if you could send that information in terms of the, to be politically correct, the people hours on the project, how many individuals that they're hiring to do this work on average, and then the salary differentiation as to if they were a city employee in comparison to the prevailing wage. So if you could follow-up with that, that would be great.

26:19Speaker 2

Okay. Thank you.

26:20Speaker 1

All right. Any other questions for my colleagues? Nope. If not, any public testimony?

26:27Speaker 6

No public testimony.

26:29Speaker 1

I would entertain a motion.

26:31Speaker 2

Okay. Would you be able to provide that? This this is just a due pass. I don't see an accelerated effective date. Right?

26:41Speaker 2

Okay. Mister Chair, I move that ordinance number two sixty-three 32 be reported out of committee with recommendation of do

26:48Speaker 1

pass. Those in second. All those in favor? Aye.

26:52Speaker 14

Aye. Thank you.

26:54Speaker 1

Ordinance passes. You you have somebody here from Lee and Sons?

26:57Speaker 9

Yes, sir. Mister Mike Carmichael with

26:59 – 27:11Speaker 1

Lee and Sons. Appreciate He's in the chambers. Alright. Thank you, guys. Kwong, thank you for your Thank you. Your your, presentation. Go to 333.

27:11 – 27:47Speaker 6

260333. Authorizing an expenditure of $6,000,000 for facility repair and maintenance contracts for the green infrastructure maintenance program, authorizing director of water services to prequalify additional companies and execute facility repair and maintenance contracts for the green infrastructure maintenance program as necessary the authorized amount to address the maintenance and repair needs of existing and future green infrastructure sites authorizing additional funds for continuation of this program with further city council approval and establishing an ordinance effective date.

27:50Speaker 1

Ken, just to follow-up on, Melissa's, councilwoman Robinson.

27:56Speaker 2

Melissa's file.

27:57 – 28:56Speaker 1

Melissa's request. I think it'd be interesting to find out from the water department all those those contracts that we have external, outsourcing, versus the number of employees we have, and what of those contracts are definable enough that we could do those in house so that we have some information on a broad scope, and that might have been what she asked for. But just that kind of I think it gives us a better ability to understand how many outsourcing projects we have versus how many projects are done and the scope of work that has to have outsourcing because of skill levels and training versus those that are more labor oriented and and such. So if you could do that for us, we may we might schedule a a Yeah. Some place where some point where you come in front of us for a ten minute, fifteen minute presentation.

28:56Speaker 1

Sure. We'd be glad to do that. Okay. Appreciate it.

28:58Speaker 2

Thank you so much. I love that.

29:00Speaker 1

Any other questions? Did we pass it in?

29:02Speaker 12

Yeah. We're we're still still on the same

29:07Speaker 2

It's okay. You have to

29:09Speaker 1

Alright. So any questions from my colleagues? You haven't even started yet.

29:14Speaker 2

Never mind. It's okay. Yeah. Let him do his presentation. He's new. He hasn't sat down

29:19Speaker 1

yet. He's Sorry, gentlemen. You too.

29:24 – 29:46Speaker 9

Good morning, chair and members of the committee. Andy Shively with Water Services. And joining me at Board of of of the at our various sites. And with that, I'll turn it over Directors to mister Lybe.

29:46Speaker 1

Roger, you need to give your number to, councilwoman Robinson here. She's got I do. Got questions. No.

29:52Speaker 2

I don't. I just wanna say

29:54Speaker 9

I believe she

29:55Speaker 2

I know. Yes. Yes.

29:57Speaker 8

I I will. Good morning, chairman O'Neil

29:59 – 30:17Speaker 8

council members. My name is Roger Lives, and I've been with the Smart Sewer green infrastructure program for the past seven years. I am the Smart Sewer's green infrastructure maintenance manager. I'm not really in charge of anything, but I'm responsible for everything. And so anyway We all

30:17Speaker 14

need your number, though.

30:21 – 30:49Speaker 8

it's a real pleasure to be here today and to represent the contractors and in house city employees that work on these sites every single day, and I'd like to put myself in that category. I don't wear this except, you know, weddings, funerals, these occasions. So they work it's incredibly hard, and none of our contractors could be here today. They wanted to be, but everyone's very busy, we're in between rain,

30:52 – 31:24Speaker 8

I'd also like to thank all your past support on this program before I get going here. But as you know, fifteen years ago, the consent decree began, and were keeping up sufficiently with we didn't have that many sites. And now we've the only thing growing faster than our green infrastructure is the program itself. So we need to get us at least get as big as our bridges at this point. So that's why we're asking for this funding.

31:25 – 31:55Speaker 8

Since that time, and I would also add that as a former landscape contractor myself, find that this program is a great boon for small businesses. And had I been in business myself at this time, I'd be all over it. It's we've been able to get five new partners with the program right now. We have Common Nature, Ideal Lawn Care Solutions, the

31:55Speaker 1

we're excited

32:05 – 32:26Speaker 8

grow business. Challenges, if And you want to put it that way. That's we've let me see. We've as you know, back in 'twenty three, we started this new program. And there's a lot of details here.

32:26 – 33:18Speaker 8

But since we started the program, it's been substantially maintenance has been upgraded considerably in the past three years. And I'd like to say that I'm on record with my boss, Andy, that this year in particular has been the best year ever just to get seamlessly going into a season like this. And so it's been very successful. And also, as you know, our CREO goals, we have a minimum 23% goal set, and right now, we're at 51%. And that's going to, you know, go up and down as we increase providers, things like that.

33:22 – 33:51Speaker 8

You mind if I answer the question as our in house capacity? Sure. Well, this is just my opinion. But I mean, work with these guys every day. It's our pay scale. These guys can go out to Costco and get paid more, and that's not an exaggeration. So people make more money working for a contractor than they do in house. And our guys, I mean, do an extraordinary job, but I would say that they're maxed out right now. And also, as

33:51 – 34:29Speaker 8

we suspended, there's a better word, the green stewards program. And that also put a dent in our program also. But we are we're keeping up. And we're I'm very proud of these guys. I'm proud to be a part of this program. It's a real privilege for a landscape guy. I call myself the green guy in the gray world. And I'll also throw out that we're the guys who put the green icing on the gray cake. That's and that concludes my glossy, smooth presentation here.

34:29 – 35:13Speaker 1

So I have a question for you. We three of us have been here for quite seven years now. And I know one of the things we did last term was negotiated, not us, but our law department negotiated and our water department negotiated very quarter strong And we we 20. Quarter decree change? How have we had impacted as far as green infrastructure versus the gray infrastructure that were the tunnels?

35:13 – 35:38Speaker 1

And this might not be your area of expertise, but I know Andy has done a lot of this. So just where are we on the tunnels collected so much water, and now we're doing it in such smaller incremental areas. How are we getting to that state where we're actually making a bigger impact on the green infrastructure versus the gray infrastructure?

35:39Speaker 9

Would love to

35:41Speaker 4

do a Just a presentation.

35:43 – 36:10Speaker 9

Will give the high level and answer your question, but I would love to be given the opportunity to present and give you an update on where we are with our federal consent decree. There were four tunnels in the original consent decree, and to date, we've been able to eliminate three of those four tunnels. The team is working hard in order to eliminate the fourth. The fourth tunnel is along Brush Creek. Brush Creek represents my most significant

36:12Speaker 9

And so we're working hard to find a way to eliminate that tunnel because I am anti tunnel. And so

36:23Speaker 1

We are, too, because that's $700,000,000 Isn't that about the

36:26Speaker 11

cost of each tunnel?

36:27 – 36:51Speaker 9

And then you bury it, and it only gets used five times a year. And so it doesn't make that's why it doesn't make sense to me. So with every green infrastructure project, I'll also say you have gray infrastructure because you're going to separate what was once combined. So you're gonna have both wastewater and storm water. So you have a gray infrastructure component with every green infrastructure project.

36:51 – 37:37Speaker 9

That's just how it works. And then but instead of just dumping the storm water into a local stream or river, we try to treat it in a green way whether retention basin, detention basin, bioswales. And that's and that's different. You get a huge water quality impact. So I would say to circle back to your question, that it's we've been highly successful at identifying opportunities to eliminate three of the four tunnels, and we're working on a plan to eliminate the fourth or significantly reduce its size or and not a tunnel, but what they call a near surface storage option as well.

37:37Speaker 9

So I don't have the answer to the question on the port tunnel yet, but we're working working hard to find that solution.

37:44Speaker 1

I can tell you, Andy, saving us 2,000,000,000, there should be a bonus in there for you somewhere. Just,

37:54 – 38:28Speaker 14

I mean, highlighting the importance of the green infrastructure and everything that we're doing through the SmartSOR program and the need for the BMPs, the bioswales, all the green infrastructure, know, made this known before. They worked for a landscape architectural firm before, and so I'm used to designing these VNPs and just understanding the importance of that. But a big part of that is the maintenance behind that. So just commending you and this program and how it's grown. We can build all these and design these BMP's and all this green infrastructure, but it's a living organism.

38:28 – 39:01Speaker 14

It's a living, breathing, you know, it's not like when you go out and design something as an architect and it's erected and it's there and it's a big beautiful building, right? I mean, obviously, needs some maintenance as well, but this is a living, breathing organism, right? It needs maintenance, it needs constant maintenance. And then for us to grow this program and to bring in these companies and to award, you know, the small MBEWB businesses in that fact as well and and getting them and training them and, the proper plants and the the proper, what? You're laughing.

39:02Speaker 8

No. I'm totally agreeing. I'm happy to hear this, actually.

39:06 – 39:33Speaker 14

Okay. Good. I'm glad. I'm happy to hear this too. Because natives, you know, look a little bit different than, you know, your average perennials. So some go in there and make sure that people don't think these are just big giant weed piles. Right? That they also look really nice and aesthetically pleasing. And so that takes a lot of education behind that too. So this program, I just I really wanna uplift this program and very excited that it's growing fast. Can you become the green guy in the gray world?

39:34Speaker 1

Did you know we know Roger now is the green guy?

39:36Speaker 8

Could I just add that, I mean, a reinforced concrete 20 inches pipe doesn't die if you don't water it for two weeks.

39:46Speaker 8

So it does take a lot of maintenance. And initially, if we can get these things established like we want to, it's gonna work extremely well.

39:54Speaker 14

Yeah. Eventually, they become self sufficient and self sustaining. And, I mean, they still need some maintenance, but then just, you know, let nature do its do its job.

40:04 – 40:39Speaker 2

Councilman? Thank you, mister chair. And to the clerk, could you please add me as a sponsor to this? And I wanted to say thank you so much, mister Shively, because I know we had many, many, many meetings about this, and you understood the assignment. And I really, really appreciate you for growing our capacity and growing small businesses. This is incredible. And so I know that last year when we brought the contracts, there was a little bit of of issue of making sure that we had all of

40:39 – 41:11Speaker 2

funding upfront and not just saying, hey. We're gonna figure it out as we go along. But I wanna echo everything that my colleague, councilman French, said and just, again, just take a moment to say thank you. I know that, you know, this is a time for me, I'm like, can we do a group hug? Because this is a long time coming and making those changes, but it's something that's gonna make us sustainable over time. So, mister chair, after the meeting, I request the group

41:11Speaker 12

sorry. I'd like to touch on the very call. His job is easy. Okay. Alright.

41:18Speaker 1

Alright. Alright.

41:19Speaker 4

Thanks. Any other questions

41:21Speaker 1

or comments? If not, any public testimony regarding this? No public testimony. I would entertain a motion.

41:27Speaker 2

Mister chair, I move that order number 260333 be reported out of committee with a recommendation of advance and do pass.

41:35Speaker 1

All those in favor? Aye. All those opposed? Ordinance passes. Rob? Thank you, Roger.

41:40Speaker 8

Thank you very much.

41:40Speaker 9

Thank you, committee.

41:41Speaker 1

Thank you, Andy. Appreciate it very much.

41:45 – 42:11Speaker 6

Ordinance two six zero three four one, adopting and updating major street plans, street design guide, and a updated Kansas City Vision Zero action plan to include supplemental planning documents required by the safe roads and streets for all grant agreement between the city of Kansas City and the US Department of Transportation and directing the city clerk to file certain documents with the appropriate offices.

42:13 – 42:24Speaker 1

Alright. Oh, boy. We didn't get your name on the list. Angie, Selena.

42:27Speaker 11

Olavuwabaji, City Planning and Development.

42:30Speaker 1

I knew that. I just wanted everybody else to know. All right.

42:37 – 43:15Speaker 15

Good morning, Committee Chair O'Neill, Vice Chair Robinson, and committee members. My name is Angie Larey. I'm the Associate Director of Transportation Within Public Works. With me is Selena Zabata Burr. She is Public Works Planning Manager, and she is here to Directors the Board of ordinance proposes for adoption of of with our planning from the planning department O.

43:15Speaker 11

Just O. I see. O.

43:17Speaker 1

O. Selena, have you been in front of us before?

43:21Speaker 5

Yes. Maybe one or two times.

43:23Speaker 1

I knew that. I just wanted to verify.

43:26 – 43:52Speaker 5

Okay. Thank you. Good morning, Mr. Chairman and members of the committee. Today, we are going to be giving you an overview of our SS4A federal grant there we go our SS4A federal grant, followed by an engagement summary of this effort to date.

43:52 – 44:37Speaker 5

And then O will be giving an overview of the major street plan update, and I will focus on the street design guide and comprehensive speed limit review. So a little background on SS4A. The city received a SS4A grant in fiscal year 'twenty two for supplemental planning work for our Vision Zero action plan. The supplemental planning documents that are required per the grant agreement include the three documents that we're talking about today, the major street plan, streets design guide, and comprehensive speed limit review. The federal grant requirement is to adopt these documents as part of our Vision Zero plan update by 04/30/2026.

44:38 – 45:29Speaker 5

It's also worth noting that this SS-4A grant from fiscal year 'twenty two includes work on our traffic engineering and operations manual and high injury network. This supplemental planning work is really important for transportation work going forward to ensure our projects incorporate Vision Zero principles. This includes our fiscal year 'twenty four SS4A grant for design and implementation along Prospect Avenue between Lynnwood Boulevard and Emanuel Cleaver Boulevard. We kicked off this project last month, and we anticipate completion of NEPA by summer twenty twenty seven with construction substantially complete by June 2029. We're also considering applying for future SS-4A grants through the fiscal year 'twenty six NOFO that's out.

45:32 – 46:06Speaker 5

This project led an extensive engagement effort. We coordinated on the most basic level between departments. City planning, public works, and parks and rec worked together to put together these deliverables per the grant. We also had touch points with the city council at various points. And we led an extensive community engagement effort starting with project tabling and a community survey in 2024.

46:06 – 46:36Speaker 5

Most recently, we had three open houses across the city for the public as well as a special meeting on Line Creek in February. We've also engaged our city plan commission and the Parks and Rec board with most recently approval of the major street plan and streets design guide in February 2026. And now I'll pass it to O to talk about the major street plan update.

46:37 – 47:17Speaker 11

Thank you. So just go ahead and push next. The major street plan is a document that's established by the state statutes, and this document shows the alignment of all the functional classification of streets, highway, parkways of an ultimate urban arterial network. So all the roads that are currently there and then potential future roads are shown on the major street plan. So the purpose of the plan is to guide development of this street network to identify appropriate streets right away to be acquired at time of subdivision.

47:17 – 47:54Speaker 11

That's where we come in because that's when the rubber meets the road, so developers come to subdivide. The major street plan is used as the guiding tool for what we need. So this plan may be amended thereto or otherwise refined by the subdivision planning process or by the plan commission and the city council. So that's the role that the city council and the city plan commission plays in the major street plan. And this plan, again, is authorized by state statutes, and it can be amended, updated under the following circumstances.

47:54 – 48:20Speaker 11

I'm going to go through them really quick. If you need me to state any of them, I'll come back to it. So when we amend an area plan, which is the future land use plan, we can amend that plan. When the proposed or constructed alignment of a major street changes materially from what's on the plan that you see today. So whenever it changes, we are allowed to amend the plan.

48:21 – 49:28Speaker 11

When the subdivision platting or the development approvals plan dictate a change, so when you have a different layout than what's proposed on the major street plan, we do then make that amendment. When the proposed major land use changes result in forecasted traffic, so if the traffic volume or anything changes, we can amend the plan to accommodate those. When a major street or highway owned and operated by others but shown on the plan informational purposes undergoes a material change, we will amend that. So when the Parkway and Boulevard system is modified in a way that affects the major street plan, we have to make those amendment to the major street plan. So when major regional transit system changes are planned to be implemented, when parks are added to or removed from the city's park system, when updates are warranted as determined by the city planning commission and or the city council.

49:28 – 49:55Speaker 11

So those are the times we do those. And this plan is supposed to be updated every ten years. The last update was back in 2011, so we're a little behind. But we have changed our comprehensive updated our comprehensive plan. So now we're using the Spirit Playbook, and this plan has been amended to make sure all the projection in the spirit playbook is captured in this.

49:55 – 50:23Speaker 11

Next. How is it used? Again, I said it's used whenever we're plotting. So whenever we plot, the public works department looks at what this major street plan calls for, and we then make those requirements of the developer. And a quick example is on arterial roads, the developer is required to dedicate right of way to meet this major street plan.

50:23 – 51:21Speaker 11

And arterial road, they are required to contribute arterial impact fee. On local links, they are required to dedicate the right of way and do have street improvement or as required by those traffic studies for those development. An example, I'll just show you an example. Go ahead, next. An example I have for you is that with the KCI-twenty 9 Logistic Park up north just by the airport at the terminals of North Mexico City Drive, You see that we had an approved development back in 2022, and this was on about 20,000 plus acres, and it was approved for 20,000,000 square feet of logistic of the park includes Amazon and Ace Hardware.

51:22 – 51:59Speaker 11

So we do have next. So what we did was that was the major street plan on the left, and the actual development came with an amendment to that plan to now make the roads match what the development will do, meeting the intent of the major street plan. So the major street plan shows that we want these connections to happen. The actual development plan affects that. So that's how we use this daily as city planning and as the city as a whole. Thank you.

52:00 – 52:38Speaker 5

And so the streets design guide supplements the major street plan. It introduces new roadway typologies that focus on Vision Zero principles. These roadway typologies align with the roadways in the updated major street plan. It also includes design standards for boulevards and parkways, hence extensive coordination with our Parks and Rec department. And last but not least, we're talking about our comprehensive speed limit review, which is also part of the body of work of Vision Zero SS4A grant that we received in fiscal year 'twenty two.

52:38 – 53:32Speaker 5

This work focuses on collection and analysis of speed data and roadway attributes. It found an overall lack of compliance with posted speed limits across the studied corridors and recommends certain mitigation strategies for these, such as reducing the citywide statutory speed limit, undertaking enforcement and education campaigns. And this study also has an appendix that focuses on 20 specific corridors throughout the city and corridor specific treatments for those such as speed humps, mid block pedestrian crossings, increased signage, and others. And this body of work is really important to inform our efforts going forward with regard to speed issues in the city. And with that, thank you very much.

53:32Speaker 5

Happy to take any questions you have.

53:34Speaker 1

I've got a couple of questions. Have we received this study yet?

53:39Speaker 5

I believe so. Early in 2026.

53:45 – 54:09Speaker 1

The speed study? Yeah. Yeah. It was sent out by the city manager as one of his updates to mayor and council back in February. So, like, the Friday updates? No. It was a separate email that included the speed study, Vision Zero, and some other other data, all related to transportation studies that were included. Have how

54:11 – 54:32Speaker 1

lane like bike lanes does this include? And is is this identified through I mean, it says in the presentation that that you identify each is that by district? Is does every district have a separate plan, or or does the entire is the entire plan based on the city rather than districts?

54:32Speaker 5

This question with regard to the major street plan or the the speed limit review study?

54:36Speaker 1

Major street plan.

54:37Speaker 5

Oh, okay. That

54:40 – 54:52Speaker 11

Major street plan is for the entire city. If you have any documents that identify specific changes, it's just what the change is from the existing plan to the new plan.

54:53Speaker 11

But it's the entire

54:54Speaker 1

This study has major

54:57Speaker 16

street plan is the way we're looking at this.

55:01Speaker 1

so what what what what no. I'll I'll leave. Any questions?

55:12 – 55:57Speaker 4

And correct me if I'm wrong, mister chair, but Wrong. Okay. It's usually usually the case. Selena, will you go back to slide 14? So I think, like, when we talk about bike lanes or we talk about usage for our street design guide, I think clarification on what what goes into the street design. Is it based on usage? Is it based on stakeholder engagement? Is it based on community input? Like, how do we how do we decide? I mean, I think this is a great this thorough, fair cross section of different options.

55:57 – 56:29Speaker 4

Right? One, we we looks like we have bus bus stops on each side. And then on the other one, we don't have buses because this isn't a isn't a a a bus corridor, and we're replacing that with that space with with designated bike lanes. So I think, like, what's what's going into the street design based on the usage, or is it is it a mixture of stakeholder engagement, or how does that how does that play out? Is that kinda what you were asking?

56:29Speaker 1

Yeah. See? You you you're much more you're much more clear than I am.

56:34Speaker 14

Thank you. So

56:37 – 57:19Speaker 5

all of those things go into that. The streets design guide, gives examples for how you could design a roadway. That's on the screen right now. It's a 100 foot roadway, I think. So there are various ways that you can configure that that would address the Vision Zero principles depending on if it's a transit corridor or if it has bike lanes. And so it's meant as a guide to kind of give the city and others guidance on how to make transportation improvements going forward on our streets. But it does take into account community engagement, which we had throughout the life of the project, as well as engineering guidelines.

57:21Speaker 1

That's what Yeah.

57:22 – 57:56Speaker 3

And perhaps another way to frame it is that what we're doing here is updating our design guidelines for streets irrespective of it's not specific to any street. We're updating it to reflect kind of national best practices. So this is really taking what's in guidance from AASHTO and ACTO and putting it into our own guide. So it really is kind of just getting us up to speed. It's not and Vision Zero concept as well.

57:56 – 58:27Speaker 3

So the SS4A was really designed around the federal program was really designed around how do you make Vision Zero part of your routine when you're redesigning streets, when you're what can you do to fix a street when it's just simply getting resurfaced? So that's kinda what this is providing that toolbox, not necessarily prescriptive, just sort of like, here's the guidelines that we're going to go by, more or less.

58:27Speaker 5

And if I may add also, it promotes consistency across the city.

58:35 – 59:17Speaker 14

I wanna go back to the engagement summary, and I wanna thank you for the the number of community open houses that you hosted, and and one of those, being the special line creek community meeting. So I had I hosted that myself in well, guess with the city as well with parks and and public works and and hosted that within my community because there was a lot. We had over a 100 probably about a 120 attendees there. And just having this communication and knowing that and I just kind of want you to reiterate this as well, that this is a major street plan and design guidelines. So it's a tool that we have in our toolbox to indicate our city standards.

59:17 – 59:46Speaker 14

So when and if development comes or occurs, that we have this tool in our toolkit, that this is one of the tools that we have and this is the starting point as a plan and that this is not indicating any design plans moving forward, that it's not indicating any upcoming construction. So just because these are lines on the map doesn't mean that we're moving forward in construction tomorrow or in the next coming months or in the next coming years. So can you expand upon that a little bit more?

59:48 – 1:00:13Speaker 15

No. I think you just described it very well, actually. These are inputs to the more detailed design process that will occur for specific projects in their corridors. The typologies provide an array of examples to meet certain objectives for different types of users and those best practices that council member Butch referenced to.

1:00:13 – 1:00:39Speaker 14

Okay. And just to reiterate that the public and the community still has a lot of community input moving forward. So when and if development ever comes or when and if, you know, there's there's talks of construction in the area or design or anything in the area or any of these standards guidelines throughout the entirety of the city that we're still gonna post a very robust, inclusive community engagement around that as well.

1:00:40Speaker 5

That is correct. Alright. Thank you.

1:00:43 – 1:01:30Speaker 2

Thank you. Just to build upon what my colleagues have asked already, I just wanna make sure that our for the 3rd District, one of the things that we have challenges with are the mobility lanes. And so and other districts have also made comments about that. So we just wanna make sure that our processes are still in place, that the city has a mobility lane plan that we approve periodically. So can you provide some additional assurances that that process is still gonna remain intact after this passage?

1:01:31 – 1:01:46Speaker 5

Yes. So we right now, we have we're finalizing a third district mobility plan, and then we're also kicking off a citywide trails and mobility plan that would look at all of the districts. So that work will continue.

1:01:46 – 1:01:59Speaker 2

Thank you. Thank I wanted to applaud our colleague for bringing this so that we do have a set of standards and we are integrating Vision Zero into our framework. So thank you, sir, for

1:02:00Speaker 3

This is all staff and a good consulting team, so thank you so much for your work.

1:02:06Speaker 5

Thank you all.

1:02:07Speaker 1

All right. Any other comments?

1:02:12Speaker 1

Public testimony?

1:02:13Speaker 6

No public testimony.

1:02:15Speaker 1

No public testimony. I would entertain a motion.

1:02:18Speaker 2

Mister and is this advanced do advanced?

1:02:21Speaker 1

I'd like to hold I'd not hold

1:02:22Speaker 2

it. I'd like to just

1:02:23Speaker 1

do a do pass so that I haven't had an opportunity to look at the study, so I just thought a week would

1:02:28 – 1:02:46Speaker 2

Yeah. And then if you could add the speed plan or in the documents online, that would be helpful to make sure that that's included. Okay. Mister chair, I move that ordinance number two six zero three four one be reported out of committee with the recommendation of do pass.

1:02:46Speaker 1

Second. All those in favor? Aye. All those opposed? Ordinance passes.

1:02:51Speaker 2

One last one.

1:02:52Speaker 1

One last one. It's so nice to see everybody here for us.

1:02:57Speaker 6

And let's talk more

1:02:58Speaker 3

about Everyone's so excited about the major Green infrastructure.

1:03:01Speaker 12

Yeah. And the green infrastructure plan.

1:03:03Speaker 1

I to break your butt off, but this was all about green infrastructure.

1:03:07Speaker 2

That's true. That's true.

1:03:09 – 1:03:49Speaker 6

Ordinance two specialized parking management services for Kansas City, Missouri parking operations, including garages, surface lots, and on street meters. Enforcement and adjudication of parking tickets authorizing the director of public works to expand funds, authorizing the manager of procurement services to amend and extend the contract without city council approval, and waiving the section two dash one six one five requirements for daily deposits.

1:03:49Speaker 1

Matthew and Keeley,

1:03:51Speaker 12

thank you, friend.

1:03:52Speaker 1

Good morning. Go forward. Your presentation.

1:03:54Speaker 6

us if we're gonna get Seven minutes.

1:03:56Speaker 2

Just tell us if we're gonna get our expansion or not. We've already done the

1:04:00Speaker 14

Yeah. We did it. We've

1:04:01Speaker 1

we've had the presentation, so we to into focus on it. What you've added to it from our last conversation.

1:04:06 – 1:04:27Speaker 17

So we just wanna cover that the contract does have include the flexibility for citywide expansion of parking services. No contract amendments are going to be required for this. Purchase orders may just be needed if additional funding is needed as parking decides that those expansions are needed. So I will turn it over to Matt.

1:04:27Speaker 12

Yeah. Good morning. Matthew McIntyre, parking and tow division manager. Was a little technical issue last week.

1:04:32Speaker 2

We can change the microphones. Thank you.

1:04:35 – 1:05:18Speaker 12

Good morning. Matthew Thaler Parkington Tow, division manager of Public Works. Last week there was an error on the presentation. We're going to chainsaw through these, but what you have are these slides that should have been presented last week. They're the same information, but just updated numbers. So we can just kind of chainsaw through these. So last week, we were asked to come back with a recommendation for additional parking enforcement services citywide. The two key areas being those dense areas like 18th And Vine need some dedicated parking enforcement. And then citywide in the residential areas, see lots of illegal parking. So that's what staff worked on and what we have to present to you today.

1:05:20 – 1:05:58Speaker 12

We're really just gonna kinda focus on those first two tiers of parking management. Tier three might be something like downtown. That's not what we're talking about today. We're just gonna be talking about the illegal parking, time zone parking in those dense areas. We looked at what might be the most efficient way to do this, and we think that starting with five supplemental parking enforcement officers to work with our KCPD out in our residential areas, and then two staff members per dense area, two in 18th And Vine, two in Westport, and two on the plaza to help work out some of those illegal or overstay long dwelling parking enforcement.

1:05:58 – 1:06:41Speaker 12

It would be somewhere around a million dollars in total cost, around 1 and a half to $2,000,000 in total revenue with a net of 500,000 to 1,000,000. So it does pay for itself. This would impact the 2,160 fund, which has a 27 adopted budget general fund transfer of 1.3. This would reduce that general fund transfer down to 800,000 or 300,000, respectfully. And then some of those additional supplemental effects, we get a lot of data from these, which can help us make those really nice data informed decisions for our various areas of the city. And I think that's the last slide. Yes. Any questions?

1:06:41Speaker 1

Excellent. Any questions from my colleagues?

1:06:44Speaker 17

to go back? So

1:06:46Speaker 2

Thank you. So will the contract come back before this committee?

1:06:50Speaker 17

It will come back annually for reporting. Yes.

1:06:53Speaker 2

So but what it this is to authorize a million dollars above. What is the actual cost of the contract?

1:07:00Speaker 17

So we brought that back the first time.

1:07:04 – 1:07:19Speaker 12

The the contract, we we operate inside of our budget. There's not a ceiling on the contract because it's time and materials. And so that way, gives us the flexibility to do these kinds of things once funding is provided into the into our account.

1:07:19Speaker 2

But how much have you budgeted for this is what I meant? You you have 3.2 to 3,500,000?

1:07:26 – 1:07:39Speaker 12

That's our that's our budget for operations for this year To do this additional enforcement across citywide, as we've laid it out today, be an additional 1,000,000 of operating expense.

1:07:39Speaker 2

So do you have the money or don't you have the money?

1:07:41 – 1:07:53Speaker 12

We do not currently have the budget for that kind of enforcement program. We would need the additional infusion of dollars into our budget to generate those activities.

1:07:53Speaker 2

Does this action infuse those dollars?

1:07:57Speaker 12

I think you would need some sort of committee substitute to the ordinance to appropriate the funding. I that's a bit out of my lane.

1:08:04Speaker 2

I I'm gonna do half of this.

1:08:07Speaker 1

So So Like we're asking for a million

1:08:12Speaker 1

add to the the contract we've already did we approve that? I already know. No. Don't. So it would be helpful.

1:08:19Speaker 17

That does not have to be done through this now.

1:08:23Speaker 17

That does not have to be done

1:08:24Speaker 14

No. Substitute.

1:08:25Speaker 2

How do we pay for the things that we're asking you to do?

1:08:29Speaker 12

I would ask someone law of finance to help me out here. This is a bit out of my area of expertise.

1:08:36Speaker 3

Oh, good. Finance committee is coming up. We have our

1:08:40 – 1:08:54Speaker 16

Brenton Zipp really with the finance department. So there's a slide in here that showed the contract would generate revenue as well. So we would just estimate revenue and the amount of the expense so we'd offset one another, and it would be a net zero.

1:08:54Speaker 1

Okay. So we are not really changing the original act?

1:08:57Speaker 16

Right. We can add the appropriation, also estimate the offsetting revenue.

1:09:02 – 1:09:25Speaker 2

Can you go back to the slide that says the two PEOs, slide number eight. We need that codified tier two. Does tier two incorporate tier one or do we need tier one Yes, and tier

1:09:25 – 1:09:38Speaker 12

of it as spectrum. You start off with just, you know, illegal parking, then you add it just gets more complicated as you go in those areas like 18th And Vine or West Border Plaza are a little bit more complicated from a parking management than a residential area. So

1:09:39 – 1:09:50Speaker 2

Okay. So I just wanna make sure that what we need is in the actual ordinance. So can we make can we just add the tier two? Does that incorporate everything you need?

1:09:51 – 1:10:03Speaker 12

I think, as we laid it out, is a great starting point for additional enforcement mechanisms for, you know, the residential and for these dense areas like 18th And Vinyl. I think this is a good starting point.

1:10:05Speaker 1

so are are we talking about we have this whereas into the the contract ask?

1:10:11 – 1:10:38Speaker 2

Well, I would just say that in addition to this procure like, is there a way that we can add a section, mister attorney, that includes tier two as a section that will be included in the contract because it explicitly talks about the dedicated enforcement at 18th And Vine, Westport, and the Country Club Plaza and the other the additional things that that are that are needed.

1:10:39 – 1:10:52Speaker 7

Just to make sure I just to make sure I understand your question, you're asking to add a sections committee sub to the operative part of the ordinance to specify specific term in the contract?

1:10:53Speaker 2

Yes. Because we don't want there to be any ambiguity around what we're expecting you to do.

1:10:59Speaker 6

Okay. So you would you would

1:11:00Speaker 17

be directing public works to perform that action?

1:11:05 – 1:11:17Speaker 2

Right. We just want to make sure that there's no ambiguity in the ex what the expansions were requesting. Is mister Muckenthaler is that amenable?

1:11:17Speaker 12

I I think that's that's fine. I from a contract or a legal

1:11:22Speaker 17

contractual standpoint, that's not necessary because you could ask for things throughout the year, and we would not be sitting here at renewal time presenting to you?

1:11:31Speaker 2

Well, one, I'm gonna have to ask the city manager, and I don't wanna do that. So can we do that now?

1:11:36Speaker 1

Why don't we just

1:11:37Speaker 12

Oh, can we Why don't we just

1:11:40Speaker 1

why don't we add section two k. Tier two

1:11:44Speaker 8

To the contract language? It needs to be tier one and two.

1:11:47Speaker 2

Tier tier one and two. The Tier

1:11:49Speaker 8

one and two is is all inclusive, and that could be a

1:11:53Speaker 2

We just don't wanna have to keep coming back. Yeah. We want it to be.

1:11:57Speaker 1

Yeah. And when you when you come back to us in six months or whenever it is and when we review this, we just wanna know that what we asked for

1:12:05Speaker 1

Was in the do remember what

1:12:06 – 1:12:20Speaker 12

we were asking? Understood. Yeah. If it's not in writing, it didn't happen. Right? Yeah. So we're just trying to make sure we know the best vehicle to deliver what you're asking for that doesn't also put us in a position where we are Get

1:12:20Speaker 2

your hold. Thank you.

1:12:22Speaker 1

Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, if it if you find there's that this doesn't work and you have to find a different way to do it, then you just come back to us

1:12:29Speaker 12

and Understood.

1:12:30Speaker 1

We'll we'll totally understand.

1:12:31Speaker 12

Yep. We're we're very excited to to get out there and do this work for you, and we're happy to help find the right vehicle to get this done for you.

1:12:37Speaker 10

Okay. Wonderful.

1:12:38Speaker 1

Yes, sir. Thank you,

1:12:40 – 1:12:59Speaker 4

mister chair. So in talking with some of the the ownership of some of these neighborhoods, in particular in my district, the Country Club Plaza, they do wanna be at the table when we're we're talking about this enforcement. Okay. Great. Yes. And I would also like to be made aware and and at the table.

1:12:59Speaker 12

Typically, when you're getting into a new area, you you wanna have some sort of meetings with the stakeholders to understand if there's any sensitivities that we need to be aware of. So Absolutely.

1:13:08Speaker 1

But just so everybody's aware, councilwoman Boo is already threatening me.

1:13:12Speaker 4

Councilwoman Boo says we gotta wrap it up.

1:13:14Speaker 2

Excuse I have five more questions.

1:13:16Speaker 12

Excuse me, chair. I have 10 for O'Neill. Excuse

1:13:20Speaker 7

me, chair. Me.

1:13:21Speaker 10

Andrew. Councilman O'Neill.

1:13:23 – 1:13:52Speaker 7

Councilman O'Neill. Just to clarify a couple of points. One, that the intent is at a section to direct to include these services tier one and tier two as part of the contract. Additionally, as part of that committee sub, we will also want to include, as provided by the finance, a section that estimates and appropriates that money to perform those services. Want to confirm that that is the intent to that is what we'll draft as committee substitute.

1:13:52Speaker 1

And would the language reflect that it's a net neutral expense? Or does that It

1:13:58Speaker 14

says paid on net neutral.

1:13:59Speaker 7

I think in its language by point. Important a And And

1:14:15Speaker 10

public hearing.

1:14:15Speaker 1

Yeah. There's lot of public who wants to talk about this. I would I would recommend that motion.

1:14:21 – 1:14:32Speaker 2

Mister chair, I move that order December '12 subcommittee. Oh, thank you. Committee substitute for order December '12 be reported out of committee with recommendation of advance and do pass.

1:14:32Speaker 1

Second. All those in favor? Aye. All those opposed? Ordinance passes. Any other business? Thank you. No.

1:14:40Speaker 2

And it is 10:30.

1:14:42Speaker 12

Hey. Okay. And a half.

1:14:45Speaker 4

Service announcement, we do have additional seating in the gallery up there.

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