Planning & Zoning Meeting - Regular Meeting

We shall see. Good evening, everybody. It's the August 3rd meeting, Planning and Zoning. And I'd like to take roll call.

Patrick Kesey.

Here.

Chelsea Arion. Here. Tony Rowe. Doug Thomas.

Here.

Michelle.

All right, couple items we have tonight. First of all, any citizens or anybody in the audience wanna say anything before we get started? All right, let's go on to the first item. Public hearing on case number zone 26-005-CR637. Mr. Chairman. Mr.

Chair?

Yes, I got it. All right. Let's approve the minutes for last meeting. Everybody look at them if you have any objections or anything you want to add or delete.

I'll make a motion to approve the minutes for the July 6th meeting.

Second.

All in favor?

All right, now. so that you don't have to read all of the entirety of item 4.1. That is being withdrawn. After the initial submittal, the developer and the city were discussing whether the property was actually in the city limits. and upon further investigation the city determined that it is not inside the city limits and not subject to zoning so item 4.1 is being withdrawn i posted it on the agenda because it was advertised for public hearing but there is no need to act on 4.1 we can go straight to item 4.2 okay

Item 4.2, case number zone 26002A, 5792FM6. And what this is, take out my glasses here. Request to amend the zoning ordinance map of the city of Joe's City, each being part of the code of ordinances to provide an initial zoning classification of C, general commercial business other than local retail to parcel of land under the petition of voluntary annexation totaling approximately 0.84 acres located at 5792 FM 6.

MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, MIGUEL INCLAN, CITY PLANNER FOR THE RECORD. THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR A REZONING THAT IS CONCURRENT WITH AN ANNEXATION PETITION FOR THESE .84 ACRES ON FM 6 ON THE HUNT COUNTY SIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS. the property owner is asking for an initial zoning designation of commercial this is a long fm6 and this item is associated or concurrent with item 4.3 my recommendation is to approve this item subject to the annexation of the parcel that way the city council still has to act on the annexation next week and then they can give the permanent zoning classification Okay. Anybody have any questions on this matter?

All right. Are we re-approving?

No. So you're tentatively approving the zoning. So if the city council decides to reject the annexation, then no zoning is given. This item just automatically closes. This is on the .84 acres. The other rezoning is separate in a way.

Miguel, they need to open the public hearing, correct?

Yes, if you will open the public hearing and call the time, please.

Open the public hearing? And the time is 6.05. Any questions on this annexation? Or zoning.

Zoning. This is just for zoning.

Just so that I'm clear, there are two properties. This was the first one. I guess the further south property is this one?

No, the north property. This is the north one. That's currently outside the city limits. It's proposed for annexation. Whenever you annex a property, the city has to give it an initial designation. Okay. the property owner is requesting that it be given a commercial designation.

Okay, so my question is what, it says businesses other than local retail, like what, could you just give me some examples of what that might be?

So these are more intense uses, so for example, a restaurant with a drive-thru. You know, any of the more intense uses that are more like, I would call more than just like a neighborhood, you know, You can build a strip mall, you can build anything commercial, retail, restaurants, just general stores, you know, There's dozens upon dozens of uses.

I guess the part that confuses me is this other than local retail.

So that is the name. I have to use the legal name according to our zoning ordinance. I'm actually going to be removing that because it is confusing and somewhat scary.

Yeah, so it could be local retail?

Yes, it could be local retail. It's somewhat scary when you read it that way. because of the way it's written but I can run through it quickly just and I'm going through the commercial uses that could be allowed in this zoning designation by right versus for example local retail so you know a commercial use could allow automotive related uses so like Quick Lube right now still subject to change.

I guess my question is like it could be any commercial business including retail or excluding retail?

There will be some that will be excluded.

I see, okay.

Yes, there are some uses that are for the most part

Everything is like strip clubs and things like that. Yeah, but but but

The commercial allows pretty much everything that's in local retail with very limited, I don't see many exceptions.

Got you.

It also, what the commercial does is it allows uses that would require a specific use permit in the local retail by right. So like they wouldn't have to come to you. But yeah, pretty much this allows for any of the commercial uses. It's less restrictive.

That explains. Thank you. I appreciate the answers.

Is this going to be our liquor store? No. And I'll have a city council briefing on that next week. Right now I don't believe it's allowed at all. So I want to have that discussion about if it were to be allowed, council needs to give me direction to look at the zoning ordinance.

I guess all of that at some point. At some point, if it's annexed and if this is accepted or approved, and then at some point down the line, there'll be a site plan to approve later, I would guess.

Right. So this is just to approve the zoning of what could be built, and then the site plan answers the question, how is it going to look like and what is actually being built here. Okay.

That's what I thought was happening. Okay, thank you.

Yeah, and as an example, you know, a restaurant is not allowed in the local retail only by SUP, and it is allowed by right in the commercial.

Gotcha. Thank you.

Miguel, so, I mean, this parcel's out, I mean, it's really out a little bit from the city limits, correct?

I mean, can we look at the aerial map? I mean the line. So the property owner owns two acres. about a little 60% of it, I believe. See, so the red line is the city limit. So it's just outside the limits. It has one common entrance through the property that's inside the city limits. The property owner just wants to package them up, if you will, and look to sell those two acres combined. And it's easier when it's all in the city limits and it's all under the same zoning. so which which side of that the the box does the owner own the left or the right side the bottom the bottom yeah so yeah uh jerica can you open the other area just right i mean there is no you know he just wants to zone a commercial to facilitate marketing and the sale the sale of the property Yeah, and you can see that that's the one that's already inside the city limits. The yellow line is the Collin and Hunt County line. So this is in the Hunt County side of the city.

And not in Josephine? Mm-hmm. It is in Josephine.

There is a very small part within the city limits in Hunt County, yeah.

Oh, well then, yeah. All right. Any other questions? All right. Anybody want to make a? Mr. Chairman. We've got to close the meeting?

You have to ask if there's any residents here to speak for or against, and then you can close.

Are there any residents here to speak for or against? Okay. This property belongs to my neighbor.

Okay.

One step over. It's like, Martin, this is probably in the city.

This acreage is the top part of the south side of the city. So, okay, the next property over is where the governor lived. So no one can have him down. I mean, that's probably over the same situation. So my property's spread out, and so it's like, it's the only difference wrong. Okay. All right. He was my friend. And he's cool with it.

No problem.

Just for the record, I love the goat and the pig there. I see them. We keep the goat and the pig, right? We like them. We like the goat and the pig. I like seeing the goat and the pig on my way to work every day. It makes my day morning. Just for the record.

All right. Any other comments? All right. Somebody want to make a recommendation?

You want to close the and then note the time, please.

Okay, I'm going to close the public hearing. It is 6-13. Anybody want to make a recommendation?

I make a motion that we approve case number, or I'm sorry, yes, case number zone 26005. On County Road 637?

No, that would be the next item. Oh, I'm sorry. I read the wrong line. Dang it.

I tried so hard. Okay. I make a motion that we approve case number zone 26002-A, 5792 FM6.

Subject to the annexation.

Subject to the annexation. Thank you.

Second. I'll second.

Approve.

We're a little clunky, but we're getting there. Oh, no worries.

All right. Up in 4.3, open the public hearing at 6.14. On case number zone 26002B, 5792FM6. This is considered to request to amend the zoning ordinance of the zoning map of the city, Josephine, each being part of the code of ordinance from M1 manufacturing industrial to light to C, general commercial business other than local retail on a parcel of land totaling approximately 1.16 acres located at 5792FM6.

So Mr. Chairman, members of the commission, this is the other remaining property. I believe that at some point in the past there used to be some sort of shop that was a business there. That's why it had the M1 zoning classification. The property owner is seeking to change that to commercial. We recommend approval because it allows for less intense uses and furthers our goals of attracting commercial development.

Okay.

Any public comment?

Any questions from the board?

I move to recommend approval of case number zone 26002B as presented.

I know.

Yeah. Any questions?

All right. Closing public hearing on case number zone 26-002-B-5792-FM6, and the time is 616. Anybody? I move to recommend approval of case zone 26-002-B as presented. And I second. All in favor? All right. Item passes.

I make a motion to adjourn.

Second.

Meeting's adjourned.

That's a win-win.

Yeah.