Planning & Zoning Meeting - Regular Meeting

All right. Like to call the meeting to order. City of Josephine planning and zoning meeting for June 18th, 2025. Welcome everyone. Uh this time uh we go to the roll call. Madam Secretary, all our members are present. Okay. And if you'd like to join us, we're going to stand for the pledge of Noiance to the flag of the United States of and to the republic for it stands one nation indivisibley and Mr. God seal. We'd like to do the invocation. Yes. Let us pray. Heavenly Father, we come to you today asking for your guidance, wisdom, and support as we begin this meeting. Helping help us to engage in meaningful discussion. Allow us to grow closer as a group and nurture the bonds of community. Fill us with your grace, Lord God, as we make decisions that might affect our residents in the city of Josephine. and continue remind us all that we do here today. All that we accomplish is for the pursuit of truth, for the greater glory of you, and for the service of humanity. We ask these things in your name. Amen. Amen. Okay, we should have our minutes. Let me see. Okay, me uh should have a copy of the minutes for uh May 15th if you'd like to look over them.

I make a motion to approve the minutes from the May 15, 2025 regular meeting public hearing. Okay. Is there a second? I'll second that motion. and all in favor. Okay. Well, let me here the next item in uh on our agenda 3.1 is to conduct an interview and make a recommendation to the city council on applicants to the planning and zoning commission. So, before we get started on that, I just like to thank all of you for being here. First of all, that's it's very important that uh community uh you know residents get involved and we've had a hard time over the years to get people to volunteer. And so uh to have four candidates here at one time this is u it's a miracle. It's like Christmas in december and uh I'm not going to get into religious but I told someone earlier it was a a deal out maybe within the last 6 months where the the minister didn't have enough he said it wasn't enough money and the offering so he told the deacons to to lock the doors and so to have four candidates if the police was here I would tell them to lock the doors here because this doesn't happen too often. So what we're going to do uh Mr. Miguel is going to uh escort you to the our conference room and we'll bring you out one by one and the way it looks we may have maybe one question per person and uh and I guess at the end if you want to make a comment you can to be fair and then you go back to the conference room and we'll uh make a decision and bring you back out. Okay. Uh Mr. in England, are you ready or is there something I missed here? Um, no, nothing. Uh, members of the commission,

I'll I'll reserve my guidance until after the interviews are over. Okay. And on the microphone, when you come out, you just push the button. Well, I think you'll leave it on. It's on. Okay. She's going to leave it on. So, uh, and according to the agenda, what he has is, uh, everybody's, this is alphabetical order. So, uh, Mr. Love, well, Mr. love. I guess you can just stay here. Okay. Go lock you up. Okay, one more thing. I really need to say something. Oh, okay. I just the only guidance I have before beginning to the interviews is that if you have a question, you have to make sure that you ask the same question of all the candidates. So if if if for any reason you go outside what the chairman uh may have prepared, just make sure that u you ask the same question of all four candidates. Yeah, we good. And that's it. All right. Uh hello, Mr. Love. Thank you again for being here. And uh I'm Lloyd Brown as you can see the name tags there. I don't think I met you around the city there, but uh I really appreciate you coming. So I'm going to start off with question number one. And like I said, we have four questions and uh and it it won't be as as bad as you think. We won't be here late. So my question is, if you can redesign Josephine, what type of businesses and habitation would you

build that we don't have today? It's a good question. That's a good question. It's a loaded question, too. I feel like I needed to know a little bit more about a little bit more about the city and you know I've been here for just a couple of years and uh I don't work here in the city. I work in Dallas so there's a lot that I don't know. Um, you know, I coming from a I came from a small town, uh, about 1500 people. And one of the things that I liked about, um, that town was there was kind of a a designated downtown kind of community gathering area there that seems to be developing here near the city hall uh, already. I think that's important for communities to keep their soul and not become an endless strip of of strip malls along the major through affairs. Um obviously you know I do have four uh sons and uh they are always screaming for more food. So uh food options would be great. I I particularly if I was business if I had the money and if I was business uh oriented I would consider putting in a small supermarket or superet type you know place lunchonet place uh that would be nice I think but I think there are some amenities given the number of people that are here who live here and you know travel for work it'd be nice if uh they could they could meet their families here for dinner um if they could have a restaurant or or something like that but There are other things you know um a gym you know close by would be nice. Uh um I don't know I think infra obviously infrastructure is uh most important you know we you got to have certain number of fire trucks and police officers and everything like that before you can

bring other things in. But I think uh in general the amenities that a small town has a couple of places to eat a place to buy some food that's not ne even though the Dollar General down the road here is pretty nice. it has produce and everything, but you know, a place that might have a a larger variety of of healthy healthy foods. Um, those are the kind of things that I'd be focused on. No problem. Just personal opinion. Yeah, no problem. That's no right or wrong answer. You just give them your opinion. Okay. Uh, number two. Okay. Um, who do you think would benefit if there were apartments built in? Joseph Green. I think our school police officers as a population. [Music] I think demographics website and a short amount of time from now at home. will be young professionals.

No. nice who follow the law. [Music] Okay. Okay. Okay. Well, I just pushed a button and it came back green again. I don't I didn't notice when it went off of green. Yeah, I'll hang on to it. [Music] Yeah, either one. I'm flexible. I'm here at your pleasure. I can reanswer again. I can all the way over. Yeah. Listen, I teach the same classes over and over. I can do it. Okay. Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. Okay. What did we miss? I can answer a different one. No, you're good. Okay. Number three. Okay. Three. Um, so what would you uh tell a longtime Josephine resident after voting for a grocery store to be built a block from their home on Commercial Street of Highway 6 that they didn't want approved? Yeah, that's tough. I think that's hard. I mean, you there's a couple of different ways you could go with it, but I I tend to be fairly empathetic in my dealings with people in general. So, you know, I would I would definitely acknowledge that that's a

headache for them, right? That it's close by. I think that's probably gonna happen close to my house, actually. Uh but also to remember, you know, you're that that's bad for you. And and with progress comes headaches, but uh in in this instance, Josephine is in no no situation to deny progress or growth. It's it's an overwhelming force that's coming whether Josephine's ready or not. And so Josephine needs to make make some make ready for this impending uh expansion regardless of of how much they like not you know how much they like having an empty field next to their home which is nice. But having a grocery store next to your home can also be nice and and it might not be great for you but it's good for everyone else. And so for the greater good of the of the community, you you some people need to are going to have to, for lack of a better term, suck it up and deal with the progress or move to one of the the new 1500 other homes that that are being built currently. And so, uh, I I would empathize with that person and I do think that I'm going to experience that same that same scenario. But you have to you have to understand that that's it's going to happen. Oh yeah. Would you rather have a would you rather it be a grocery store or would you rather it be an apartment complex? Would you rather be a grocery store or a jail or a prison? Right. Those are although technically statistically speaking the houses next to the prison are the safest houses. But but um anyway um that's probably how I would try to handle it and then they would get mad at me probably. Oh yeah. I would walk away. Thank you Tony. All right, Tony. If you were approached by a potential Josephine investor who

has an item on the agenda and he or she offers you a gift, answer honestly. What would you do? Yeah. Well, if I didn't if I wasn't part of the commission, I would take the gift for sure. But um I think that's probably if not if not illegal, it's at least unethical. And so, you know, I would definitely avoid that situation to try not to have the appearance of a bribe. Now, I mean, if if Chick-fil-A comes and says we'll all get free Chick-fil-A sandwiches for a year if we approve a Chick-fil-A, it'd be hard to turn down. I'm not going to lie. But, uh and that could happen. You know, they could give it to us anyway, but I understand the ethical concerns there and I would definitely avoid that. We have similar concerns like that in uh in the university, right? You know, I work at UT Dallas and especially foreign students, they love to give gifts. It's part of their culture and sometimes it can be daunting to to reject their because it it's it's rude to reject their gift, but at the same time, as the professor, I can't take their gifts if if I might be assigning grades to them later, unfortunately. Yeah. Mhm. Uh I do have one more question if that's right. Yeah, because I'm going to You have another one too. Yeah, but it's not going to be a really a question. It's going to be them talking about themselves. I think it's uh let's say a developer came in and wanted to build 500 homes within the next couple years and the city's already rationed on water, sewer, police, fire. What would you tell that developer? That's a great question. I And I that if that hasn't happened already, it will happen for sure given the the growth this way. I Well, I I'm not sure because I'm I'm not sure how to answer because I'm not sure about all the options on the table. It at first blush, if I was a dictator of

the planning and zoning uh commission and Josephine, I would say you're out of your mind. Forget it. Right. We we just the infrastructure doesn't support it and there's no way to either go bankrupt quicker or become an undesirable place to live quicker than to overrun your infrastructure in exchange for tax dollars or whatever you see coming uh in terms of money. But I I I believe and I don't know this to be the case because I'm I am not an expert in planning and zoning that there are options through which the developer can help expand the infrastructure in such a way that would not only meet the need for their proposed development but also increase the capacity for future or current or future developments. That's probably the route that I would try to go if I was in charge. But yeah, I'm sure that's a problem. I'm sure that happens all the time. Oh, thank you. Okay. Uh I'm going to ask one other question and I ask my colleagues to remind me to make sure I give the other candidates this opportunity and it is simply tell us what you would like to tell us. no questions here about yourself and uh what you know why do you want to be on the board or whatever you feel you want to tell us about yourself. Sure. Uh well I uh I moved here two years ago. I grew up in Blossom, Texas, which is outside of Paris, Texas. So if you think Paris, Texas is small, this is an even smaller town outside of Paris, Texas. And uh like I said, I enjoyed growing up in a small town. I enjoyed the the soul. I enjoyed the the rural rural version of life. I enjoyed the fact that my teachers could pick up the phone and call my parents. They knew them and every you know I love all that. And one of the reasons I moved here was because it has that small town feel. I left I

left that area and went to Texas A&M University. Was down there for 10 years. got a PhD, then went went and got a job at the University of Kentucky, and that's where I was for the last nine years before I moved back here to Texas. So, Texas is my home. My wife and I are high school sweethearts. We grew up in Texas. We're native Texans. All my kids were born in Texas. We knew we had to get back down here before uh Texas seceded from the Union, you know, so so we would already have our national Texas card when we moved down. But uh uh long story short, I became a professor of criminology at UT Dallas. And so um I'm interested in crime rates and other things like that. But uh part of being a a university professor is service. There are service uh aspects of the job within the university. There are ser like the faculty senate and sponsoring uh fraternities and sororities and clubs and all that stuff. But there are also service uh requirements really or assumptions outside of the university. And that includes to positively impact your community and your state. And so I'm I'm already working with Colin County Jail for some of the inmate programs that they're doing there to evaluate their inmate programs there. Uh that's the that's kind of the state level service that I'm offering. And as a community level service, I thought there's no better place to get involved than here at the city of Josephine where I live. And particularly a place of need like a planning and zoning commission who who's looking for people and it's going to be a crucial crucial point of decision making for this city for the next 20 years. It's going to be an incredibly it's going to be important to this place that the proper planning decisions are made in a proactive manner rather than a reactive manner. And so I felt like I

should try to help. Okay. Great. Okay. Well, again, well, okay. We really appreciate you coming sir and uh it means a lot to us and and the citizens actually because you know the council and the planning and zoning and any other committee. I've been on another one and so is my colleague is it's volunteer you know so we volunteer and uh you know no big money so but it's necessary to keep the course keep the city moving. I agree. So again uh we appreciate you coming in. Thank you very much. Mr. Eng. [Music] Yeah, that would be the next person in uh you'd like for him to uh who was the next uh uh Yeah, David. Yes. Thank you. Does he need to stick around or can he go home? Oh, no. We got to bring him back out after we All right, that's fine. I'm just making. Yes, sir. I hope he knows that. Hello. Good evening. How you doing? Good. Okay. All right. Mr. David Reed. Well, again, uh thank you for being here, sir. We really appreciate you taking time and volunteering uh to serve. Uh so, we're going to ask uh about five questions and then give you a chance to just say whatever you want to say at the end. and I'll start it off. Uh my question is if you can redesign Josephine, what type of businesses and habitation uh would you build that we don't have today? And is the mic going to be is it on? Can you see? Good. Yes, sir. So, I can So, starting starting from scratch. Yeah, if you can redesign.

Yeah, I guess a good point. Start from scratch there. I mean, I've always liked the uh county seats built up around a courthouse. We are not the county seat. I get that. A central point with a nice mix of a uh food and beverage, retail, um a walking downtown. Um the mix, I mean, uh kind of got a little bit of a retail background. It's always about the mix. Okay. But I really like a uh in a smaller town kind of centrally located where people can come walk, hit the shops, which causes problems because then you got to urge them to stay open later. People are off work. Okay. Good. All right. Number two. Uh, who do you think would benefit if there were apartments in Josephine? Apartments. Mhm. The landlord. I mean, it's affordable housing. Uh, which brings in more students, which helps football team potentially. The sports, um, I think again it's about it's a balance. um living in apartments myself uh in the past, you need them. I don't think it's a bad thing. I think it can get out of hand, but don't think we're any near danger of that yet. But it's something to think 5, 10, 15 years down the road how we allow it. Very good. Thank you. Okay. Uh David, uh what would you tell a longtime

uh Josephine resident after voting for a grocery store to be built a block from their home on a commercial street of Highway 6 that they didn't want approved? Single person that happens from time to time, you know, here. Um sorry, but it was the mo it made sense for it to go there. Um, you know, there's measures that are taken now for light pollution, sound pollution, whether it be a barrier wall. Um, hold the retailer accountable for blown trash, try to be courteous, set some set some standards, uh, to protect our residents. I mean, we're here for the residents and we are residents. So, we kind of have to think if we're going to allow it there, how would we want it next to our house? You know, within reason. Um, nobody wants a building that they didn't want, right? But a lot of people do. Um, be empathetic, okay, thank you, David, if uh you were approached by a potential Josephine investor uh who has an item on the agenda in front of us uh and he or she offers you a gift, what would you do? No, thank you. No, I don't want to. I'm in construction and uh you know we get gift baskets or whatever and you know when it's across the line and in fact a lot of a lot of companies are saying that doesn't happen at all now. So um you don't want to be in bed with anybody who doesn't who has a financial interest in receiving gifts of sort like that. That's no go. All right. Uh, one more question. Um, if

a developer uh, wanted to come in here and build 500 f homes within a couple years knowing that the city already has water restrictions, police, fire, other things in the city that are already in short supply, what you tell that developer? Um, until is the name Kurt? Kirk says we can handle it. I don't think we I don't think we even entertain it. I mean, we got to we got to take care of who we got. Um, infrastructure is super important. Never want to be playing catchup in that in that department. Build it first and then then inch up on capacity. Um, it's tempting, you know, to bring the houses potential revenue more people do better. things uh with the city, but if you can't take care of them, you can't do it. Thank you. Okay. Okay. Mr. Reed, this is the opportunity, no questions from us, for us for you to tell us what you want us to know about you, why you're interested in uh planning and zoning, and just whatever about yourself. Well, um we live we live in kind of no man's land uh between here and Josephine. Uh my address is Nevada. My services come out of uh Josephine. Uh we go to church in Josephine. We come here for Fourth of July. Uh feel like a resident. So I care about the city. Um I'm glad to see it growing. I like telling people who we are and where we are. Uh when I'm 20 miles west and they I'm shocked that people don't know Josephine. I'm tired of north of Roy City. We like it. We We think they're doing great. I do not have an agenda. Now, I'm

not mad about anything. I don't want to set the world on fire. I would just I have a unique background in construction. I've taken care of a mixeduse development, multiple mixeduse developments uh in the area. Uh I'm a construction guy. But uh when in 2009 I was working on the Dallas Cowboy Stadium. We got Mrs. Jones's suite ready for the George Straight concert, we were working seven, eight hours a day. I mean um 12 14 hours a day, seven days a week and uh for that concert so that the suite would be ready. George rolls in the next week. 30 of us got laid off. In 2009, market was not doing great. found a job on Craigslist uh for a shopping center in Allen and uh big part of it was you know taking care of the facilities from everything from plumbing to electrical and air conditioning. I put in air conditioners uh from the project management side. I think I can take care of one and I could. But the best piece of advice I got was uh first thing you need to realize you're not our target audience. Unless you have a stroller in front of you and you're in a certain demographic, you're not shopping here. And it's true. It was, you know, a shopping center geared towards women and to get out of that mindset of what I would like versus, you know, what we're presenting. And that was pretty good advice. So, I've I've gotten it. uh the construction side, the retail, the mixed use, being able to listen and hear what people want and tailoring for that. Um, and it's uh a little different. You know, we planned and redeveloped uh other properties and I think I think there's some things that translate that could be

positive help. Okay. I like this place. I didn't mean to cut I cut you off. Okay. Okay. Well, thank you, sir. We really appreciate you again showing interest in this this position here and we we need the volunteers and uh it's important uh that people step up and uh that you certainly have today, you know, by being here. So, we uh we're going to put you back in the holding cell there. Jane Richway. Thank you, Jane. Jane. Yes. And love. Thank you. We get through this. Thank you, David. Let me see if we got a res. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. Good evening, Mr. Ridgeway. I think uh one of those mics should be on. I see a green light. Okay. Good. Okay. Okay, we're going to have about five questions and at the end we'll give you a chance to say whatever you want about yourself. Okay. Uh the first question from me would be if you could redesign Josephine, what type of businesses and habitation would you build that we don't have today? that we don't have today.

I would still build what we started out in 2018 trying to build off of Sebastian with the apartments with the stores underneath kind of make a little downtown area a real you know a real downtown area. My apologies. Um could you speak up and maybe repeat your your your answer because um the broadcast team couldn't hear what you were saying. Excuse me. Yes. In 2018, we had approved some land to be apartments with like stores underneath them. And that was kind of vision at the time. And I still think that that would be kind of nice to see over on Sebastian. Kind of a downtown. I think Josephine needs a downtown area similar to other cities that have downtown areas to make it a draw. Okay. Right. Right. Question number two. Okay. Uh, who do you think would benefit if there were apartments in Josephine? Depending on the price, I would say there are some seniors in the area that would benefit from that. There are some young people that are moving into town that would benefit from that. I'm not sure how many families would benefit from that, but each case is different. Uh, hi Jane. Um, what would you tell a longtime Josephine resident after voting for a grocery store to be built a block from their home on Commercial Street of Highway 6 that they didn't want approved?

I'm trying to think of somebody who doesn't want a grocery store in Highway 6, but I guess I would say, well, there's a lot of people in town that would like a grocery store, and this seemed like the logical place to put it, right? Uh, based on our traffic flow at the current time away from either side of FM6, either this way or that way, right? It's the grocery store is the major thing I hear people talking about. Thank you. You're welcome. Jane, if you were approached by a potential developer that wanted to invest in Josephine and their item was on the agenda and they offered you a gift, what would you do? Well, I'd have to turn it down. Okay. That's not how we do business in this town or it shouldn't be. Mhm. Uh, another question is, uh, let's say a developer came in and had 500 homes they wanted to build in the next couple years and knowing what that would bring to our water usage, traffic, uh, just all of our other services that we offer, what would you tell that developer? I would tell that developer that we would probably have to go to city council, but if they have bothered to look at our water situation and kept up with the news, we're not going to be able to handle that. We're we're in the middle of doing a sewer project. Uh we've got oral water restrictions with the exception of the weather right now maybe, but we have definitely got some things that the city's dealing with that they probably can't do 500 houses if we can do the let's approve them for down the road. I don't think we have that in our zoning ordinances. Um I know that Princeton has gone on moratorum for a while. things that are already approved developed, but they're not approving new houses. And until we get

the situation with infrastructure, with the at least part of the roads fixed, uh, and coming from the two counties, Hunt County, Colin County being different would depend on where those 500 apartments would be. Thank you. Okay. Oh, that was that extra there. Okay. Okay. Miss Ridgeway, this is the time uh where we stop the questions. We give you opportunity to tell us whatever you want us to know about Julia. You know, tell us about yourself. I know you've been here before, so but we got to be fair to everyone and you have the floor. Okay. Well, here I am, Jane Rididgeway. Again, you've known me probably for about 20 years. You may not know a lot of my background, but um started out in human resources and carried that on into consulting, traveled extensively, you know, seen different towns all over the states and in other parts of the world. Um basically took all the in all of the experience that I've had and just tried to go forward with the things that I've learned. That's you know me, I'm the one that reads the documentation. That was part of my job as well. and I dive into things and I look and I research. So that's me. And what else? Um I was on the volunteer fire department for a while as secretary. Um did the volunteer auxiliary, you know, try to be community oriented and then city council and planning and zoning with y'all. That's me. Hunt County side of Josephine. Okay. All right. Well, thank you for being here. We appreciate it. And it's back to the conference room there. And if you don't mind, will you ask Miss Young to

come on out? Thank you. Okay. [Music] Hello, Miss Young. How you doing? Be careful. Be careful. Thanks for being here. We're going to ask uh about five questions and then give you opportunity to tell us what you what you like to tell us about yourself. Okay. So the first question would be from me and it is if you could redesign Josephine what type of businesses and habitation would you build that we don't have today? Okay. Um the number one has always been on my list is grocery stores. We don't have any grocery stores whatsoever. Um better uh road quality. I have tar um on mine um from when they redid it. I don't I don't know what they they didn't have any sign that the road was closed. So, just better um communication when y'all are going to redo something. Um those are my two biggest ones. Okay. Okay. All right. Okay. Number two. Uh who do you think would benefit if there were apartments built in Josephine? Okay. Um so I believe the community in general. um with me running for the school board. Um so I I got to see a lot of knowing um I lost my train of thought. Sorry. Um with education with um zoning and planning for uh who's coming into the community and whatnot. So I think

everybody would commute everybody and the infrastructure. So, um, knowing um I'm sorry I'm listening. It's okay. Just relax. Okay. So, uh, number three, uh, I'm going to ask you number three question here. Uh, what would you tell a longtime Josephine resident after voting for a grocery store to be built a block from their home on Commercial Street of Highway 6 that they didn't want approved? Well, I would ask them if they um actually voted. Um so they can want something or not want something, but did they actually communicate in the reasons to why um or suggest any better reasons to or any better locations as to where that could have gone? Um, so I would just try to understand I guess a little bit more about that. Thank you. Just a couple more piece of cake. Uh, if you were approached by a potential Josephine investor who has uh an item on the agenda in front of us and he or she offers you a gift, what would you say? Well, I'm a realtor, so I work with uh clients all the time. So I I sometimes have um clients looking at the same property. So I have to be objective to both of them. Um so I would pretty much do that same thing here and not um you know I would stay in my role basically. Good answer. Uh the last question that I have is let's say a developer came in in front of the board here and u wanted to build 500 homes in the next couple

years. uh which would stretch our infrastructure, water, traffic, police, fire. What would you tell that developer? Um so I actually closed in March and on a a home for somebody and the sales rep told me that um their builder has acreage from um Highway 6 all the way to 380. And so they were saying it's enough for multiple builders to come as well as acre lots and whatnot. Um so I would want to know, you know, um what their plan is just for homes um other than homes um going in there. So that's what I would want to know. Okay. Thank you. Okay, Miss Sean. Uh at this time that we're going to stop the questions and you just relax and tell us what you want us to know about yourself. Okay. Uh anything you want to tell us about yourself and let me know why you would like to be up here. But okay, this you got the floor. Got you. Um so I'm not native from here. I grew up in McKenna. I moved here in um December of 23. Um the same month that I moved here, I actually lost my home. Um so or not lost my home, lost my job. Um I was working at um where was I working? Uh Geico and so um then I started substituting in Roy City in um Richardson and then this past year I was at uh Community ISD. Um so I was substituting and then became the ISS uh teacher as well as um in June of last year I got my real estate license. Um, so within that time, you know, just learning about the community and about the people that live here and whatnot and um, just trying to be involved.

Okay. Okay. Well, we really thank you for coming and uh, getting involved and volunteer. Uh, we really appreciate it, but we need volunteers to keep the city moving. So, uh, at this time, if should be any other questions, we're trying to be fair. Ask everybody the same questions. So you can just return to the conference room and again we appreciate you coming and we'll kind of wrap it up here in a few minutes and call you all back out. Okay. Thank you ma'am. Thank you. Okay. So, um before you begin your deliberations, just to remind you, there is an opening for one full member in two alternates. Um, and right now, um, since the chairman's property was annexed into the city, as of right now, you have no residents from the ETJ in your commission. So, um, if and there's two of the applicants. So, um, if you elect to pick two of the three for the three slots, two of them can be from the ETJ whether it's full member or alternate member, there's no distinction. So

I put that in the report. I just double check. It's um Miss Young and Mr. Reed. They are the two um residents of the ETJ.

Doc, Dr. Love. So, he's got a pretty I feel like that's what he got his PhD for, just so he could be called Dr. Dr. Love. So, yeah. Go ahead. Yes.

Last state. I hope Do you want me to go grab him now? Do you have any? Uh nothing other than uh once I bring him in just to make a motion to appoint blank as the full or recommend because you're you're recommending to the city council. Blank as the full member and then the two names as the alternate members. I'll prepare the report on your behalf and submit that to the city council. Um and uh I believe all of the candidates responded that they would want to go to the training that I emailed you about earlier this week. So, so I as a as a heads up, you know, it's tentative on their appointment. So, I am going to um uh register them and if they're whoever is appointed will get to go the one who isn't pull Yes. Yes. So, uh I don't know

if you haven't seen that if you're interested in Yes. It's a Friday, but um it is a very very informative training and and I believe uh it would um help you also if you all get to join the newer commissioners kind of help um work with each other and and kind of show them the ropes. You guys will kind of show them the ropes a little bit. Um but yeah, I think other than that I um probably within the next uh two weeks. Yeah. Yeah. I think I have a week to pull back. So, if you feel like you can make it, just send me an email and say go ahead and register me. And then I believe I have like 10 days before where I can withdraw your application if needed. It'll be in North Richland Hills uh which is about 820 and uh 121 west of DFW airport or 183, sorry, 183 and and 820 kind of that area. Yeah. every year. Yes. Yes. So, so yeah, it's I think it's like at 8. Yeah. So, um yeah, you you would have to leave early since it's within the city. Um city can't pay for or within the region. City can't pay for hotels. So, um do you have any other questions about this process or next steps or anything else regarding this agenda? Yes. Yeah. I guess we can make a motion. All right. Let me You want me to go grab them now? Okay.

25th of July. July. July. Mhm. Yeah. We're pray. We'll take notes. Mhm. You going to Mexico? Okay. Okay. Again, I would like to uh thank all the candidates for being here this evening and volunteering to serve the citizens of Joseph Josephine. You know, for far too long, we have been hoping for citizens to come forward and get involved. Things have changed in Josephine. As well, as we have all witnessed, there's been an increase in people, houses, and traffic. And just like the community, the city hall has changed. A few years ago, we didn't have a city administrator. Because because of the rapid growth and the need, the city council found it necessary to bring in someone with experience and education to assist us in guiding to assist in guiding us through these new challenges. Our city administrator then decided it would be beneficial to hire a city plan planner. And I might add, they're doing a great job in making this city taking the city to the next level. Change is here whether we like it or not. And I have to give credit to someone, one of the applicants that was the statement that was on their application. I saw that uh new faces, energy, and a different point of view, background, and experience are

all part of change. Change demand that we move forward. We can't move forward by holding on to the past. I have served on the planning and zoning for a long time and I was a member of the Josephine Community Development Corporation. So when I speak of change, it applies to me also. The writing is on the wall. Qualifications. As far as the candidates are concerned, although your application exhibit various skills, interests, and talents, you all have three basic qualifications. Our zoning ordinance called chapter 14 as well as other ordinances are written at a 12th grade level. All of you can read and learn. All the candidates live in the Josephine or the ETJ. And according to your application, you are all willing to serve the community. Therefore, our recommendation to the city council is for Mr. love to become a regular member of the planning and zoning, Mr. Reed to become an alternate, and Miss Young to become a alternate member. The city will vote on these recommendations next month. Both positions are important because we uh because as we've learned a just a few months ago, without the alternates, we may not be able to hold a meeting. Therefore, the alternates must always be ready. Please be aware that one or both alternates may be sitting here in a few months. We never know what's going to happen. So the alternates are most important. They will receive our email pertaining to the upcoming meetings. And uh and as I alternate for 11 months, I just mentioned this to my colleagues. I I sat there and I listened and I took

note notes and I learned. But again, just like that, you can be you can be up here within a few months after uh becoming a regular member. Uh then I became the chairman. If approved by the city council, you will be required uh to view two uh videos and print out a certificate. Uh we'll be available to members here to answer any questions and assist you. One piece of advice uh this position as well as a council position is to serve the people, not yourself. Over the years, I've heard people make statements indicating their concern for the community. And it sounds good, but in their heart, it's about their personal feelings or pleasing a few people or friends not not serving the community. Please focus on the people and the community. Miss Wishway, we have served on the planning and zone and you served on the city council. Because of my military experience, many people say to me, thank you for your service. And at this time, the only thing I can say is thank you for your service. Uh you serve the city well for a number of years, many, many years. Uh but as I stated before, we uh we're here as stated st stated before changes here in the city hall must adjust and move forward. So at this time uh we're going to make a motion and our recommendation will go to the council and so of course you'll hopefully you'll be here next month when we meet and that's the second Monday in uh July. Did you have a question in your mind? look like you Okay, Mr. Reed. Uh, can we make a motion uh members? Mhm.

Okay. Yes. I'll make a motion to uh to nominate uh our regular member Dave I'm sorry, Tony Love as our first choice and uh then I'll make a recommendation to uh have uh David and is it Chelsea? Chelsea uh as our alternates. Got that. M secretar. I second. Second. All in favor? Okay. Mr. Incan Inclan, is there anything else you would like to say, sir? Um, I thank the applicants for their time and uh I will be providing you some um information ahead of the city council meeting. At this time, I do not know if the council will conduct a second round of interviews or they will just act on your recommendation and uh just uh do a straight vote. Um I'll uh as soon as I find out, I'll u let the all the applicants know and uh just make sure you're here on that council meeting date. And um I think that is it. Okay. Is there a motion to adjourn the meeting? I make a motion to adjurnn in favor. Let me shake your hand. Oh, second. Second. David, welcome aboard. Nice to meet you, David.