City Council - Regular Meeting

You built something meaningful, something lasting, something that will continue to inspire long after your final year. As we close this chapter, we want to honor you with our deepest appreciation and thank you for your leadership, your generosity, and your unwaverly belief in what this program could be. You didn't just start shop with the cop. You made a legacy of kindness. We are grateful beyond words. This send off is only a small reflection of the impact you make. Thank you. [applause] [applause]

We have a couple of certificates for you. Thank you so much. Uh this is for you yourself and this is uh here. Do you want to get Does the council want a picture with him or how do you want me to Sure. Yeah. Yeah. We'll go down the front. And thanks to the officers who have been so Oh yeah, we appreciate you. You got to be so [laughter]

I can make you one. Two. Thank you so much. [applause]

I would like to also um I'll wait till y'all get back up. I would also like to recognize our uh volunteers and our sponsors for this event. If it's not for them that we wouldn't be able to pull this off. So, if I can get uh Mr. Brown to come up. Is Ollie here tonight? No. Okay.

But Lloyd and and his wife will help us with this each year, too. [applause] And with people, they've always played a big part. They they do a lot of shopping for us, too. Okay, thank you. [applause]

Uh, Project Linus, Regina. This, uh, their organization holds a special place in my heart because my mother's up to about 4,000, I think, blankets that she does with them now. Uh, and this year like like the years in the past, they they provided us with blankets for the kids and and this year we got some teddy bears and they also supplies us with the the blankets that we carry in our squad cars that have our patch on it when we have an incident where there's a child involved. We always give that to a child. It always makes them feel a lot better. So, thank y'all very much. [applause] Anybody from One and Done or BO Metal Works? Anybody here?

Okay. Uh, Dr. Pam Sardo, Councilwoman. Uh Pam has always helped us and supported us to this and with many things. So we we appreciate her. [applause] And the last one uh that are here, I'd like for my wife to come up. She's with Abernathy, Rodair, Boyd, and Huelet. Uh that they also I think they do some tax stuff for the city and stuff, but my wife is a parillegal with them. So, thanks him for helping us out. [applause] So, on another note, uh on December the 20th, uh the police department about 8:30 p.m. we received a call of a of of a three-year-old that was missing who had been diagnosed with autism. Uh the officers responded out and uh with their training uh about this kind of stuff, they knew that sometimes that water is uh the children are attracted to water. So they did their search uh in Magnolia Point neighborhood and the officers were able to locate the child in a pond uh the three-year-old and was able to bring the child uh safely out and the medical staff checked on him and everything was fine. Uh the local news covered it pretty good and I've also put them in for a few awards with the state. Uh we have a video real

quick. We had to edit some of the uh redact some of the name, you know, voices. So, What is it? You okay? Come here, baby. Come here, baby. You okay?

So, I'm very proud of the officers. Uh, this was a team effort. Even though one officer is the officer that pulled her out of the water, uh, everybody that responded to that scene and and took command of that scene is going to receive a life-saving uh, award from the police department. So, if I can get Are they here? Okay. So, uh, first one I got on the list is, uh, Nicholas Tjo. [applause] If you just stay up here, Michael Chadwick [applause] Sergeant Sandor.

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and Israel who actually did brought the person out of the pond. [applause] [snorts]

And uh let me get a picture with all of them. I I will say though, this is probably my proudest moment in the four years I've been here. This is the most proudest I've been of the troops. And they they did really a great job here. [applause] Photographs. I'd like to say on behalf of the council and myself, uh, much appreciation and another round of applause for those officers. Thank you. [applause] Okay, we got some city announcements about our MDD. You want to go over that, Lisa?

Yes, sir. The MDD application is officially online as of today. We'll be taking applications for the next 3 weeks and then we'll have council review those at the uh next meeting and after that uh we'll make appointments and we'll get things moving. The application is out there. There is a brochure that tells a little bit about the MDD and what people would be signing up for. And eligibility is anyone living within the district. So, not not just the city limits, but the district, which includes our ETJ. Okay. Thank you. All right. Do we have any uh citizens comments papers? Yes, sir. Um Barbara Joe Strickland.

Hi. Um my husband and I have lived in Josephine over 40 years. And when they did the replacement of the sewer line along Milton Street, there's bad odor coming in our house. They came to our house several times. We called Kurt. We called Garrett. They come in. They said, "Yes, it's something's going on. You know, they had engineers. They worked, dug up, redug it twice, but we're still having odor." And I also our neighbor next door on 103 Milton Street, the Hernandez, there they weren't even hooked up for two weeks when they disconnected them. They didn't rehook them up for two weeks. They were having sewer backed up. And then I also went to um 204 Milton Street. There is uh Jeremy Johnson lives there and Kendy Pal, they also have problems. and 202 Milton Street has problems and we are still getting these smells and we got this letter last week that said, "Oh, they're going to come clean up the street, clean up our yards and pave it." I suggest do not pave this road until you get rid of the smell in our homes cuz something is wrong. They need re-engineered or what? Something's got to be done. We They're saying we've got a sewer problem. No, we don't. We've went there 40 years without the smell. The people that I talked to down the road said they always smelled it outside the house, but now they are getting smell inside the house at their first bathroom towards the front of the house. And it's strange cuz that's where we mainly get it.

That's what I got to say. And I would like to know how many houses were affected by that sewer line. How many got disconnected and reconnected to it? And if they're all having problems, someone needs to talk to somebody about it. I will follow up with staff and then then get with you and see where we're at

and let you know something this week. There's any more. Do we have anybody in the audience who would like to come up and speak in the citizens comment? All right, we will move on to three. Consent agenda. Council question, discussion about consent agenda.

Uh yeah, I have Thank you. I have a couple of um questions regarding um 3.1. Um let's see. I wanted to okay 3.1 I wanted to pull the November minutes just to ask a question and um the December minutes just to ask a question and 3.2 I would like to pull water I mean sorry 3.2 two. I would like to pull the water animal control code enforcement and investment uh just for small questions. So, police and fire is good to go.

I have one question. I just want to ask a question on public works. Is that in the same That's in the same one, right? Yeah. Public works is water, right? Yeah. Water, waste water. Okay. Do we vote on police or fire?

Police and fire and the consent agenda. I move that we uh approve the police and fire reports. I'll second. Voting signs in favor. Okay. Oh, do we do that here? Okay, very quickly. Um, thank you for that, Jason. Okay, on page two of the November minutes, item 6.1, I just had a question. Uh, it mentioned the next meeting with the Magnolia Board that they requested. Um, do we have a date for that?

I can answer that. Um, no. We're still waiting on feedback from the other council member that's not here tonight. Okay. And then then that meeting will be set. Good. Good. I'm good. Okay. And um the December minutes um they do have a watermark on them that says draft. I haven't seen that before. I don't know if it's something new. Um I just have a little procedural question. Um in the December minutes on 4.11, it says the motion was carried but also says 0. Is it possible to remove the word carried [snorts] uh because there was no second or vote or is that a software thing we can't change?

That was on the north south loop was 4.11. And while you're looking and I can ask the next question. Um, has Clarence Dy and Colin County come back to the city uh regarding updates for the questions they were unable to answer? I'm sorry. Please sneak in. Um, has Clarence Dowy and Colin County come back to Josephine regarding the questions they were unable to answer last month? Uh, not at this time. uh they are grateful that you all want to collaborate. Good.

Um and they're going to uh continue to be in contact with us. Okay. All right. The reason I'm asking is um I I'm hopeful that they are going to come back. If they do not, can you let us know so we can pursue another action? Yes. Uh the latest I heard was that they they really do want to work on that intersection. Okay. Um they don't have a solution for it at the moment. So, if they're open to our ideas, um, uh, Kirk and Public Works and and Miguel and I have not had a chance to sit down and kind of discuss what possibilities we might be able to pull off there. It's just a very awkward intersection. U, but they have acknowledged that they need to find a solution for it.

Thank you. Um, so if they're going to come back, great. If they're not, let us know so we can take the next step. Thank you.

Thank you. I appreciate that. Okay. Water report. Um, I talked directly to Garrett, so I don't have I apologize. I can remove that item. Animal control. The awesome news about animal control is the commissioner's court today voted on the agreement for animal control services. Um, the the question is, is this a shared payment issue for animal control between interlocal? Is it a county city split payment or they just agreed to give us the service and we just pay for it for animal control?

Commissioner's court renewed it was on the agenda today at the commissioner's court to renew the relationship with animal control and Josephine which is great. That's um we have all American dogs. Oh, just a contract directly with them. Okay. Okay. for the city limits. Okay. Thank you. I I guess I misunderstood something. Um with code enforcement, I would just like to get some feedback on behalf of the citizens. Um vendors are sending letters to get BL backflow done annually and my understanding is it only has to be done every three years. That's what our

um is is there something that we could just put in the newsletter just to make people aware? I know there have been some violations and some fines, but this is regarding just general communication if that's okay. Yes, we can we can do that to the next newsletter. Thank you. It's listed on the flyer. they do receive a citation or violation or notice. It's listed on there that it's required to be done with the three years only annually for commercial as well as it is on the backflow portion of the website that directs them to for additional information about the

okay if you believe the communication sufficient then I'll just drop it. I just felt that the vendors were being pushy. [laughter] We can check into that as well. Thank you. And my last question is, um, I love the investment and banking report. Um, I did notice that Hilltop collected over a million dollars each month. It seems that's not just Josephine. Um, but are we paying 9%. Um, that seems high. Can we get our city numbers out of that? Yes, we can work on that.

Thank you. Um, okay. So the the last question remaining I guess is is the software rigid or can we remove where it says carried when the vote didn't happen? Oh it's okay on 4.11. Yes ma'am. Carried zero zero. Um there was no second so there's no four. That's just what diligent does. Okay. So, it's kind of okay. The software is a little tricky as far as the automated part of it when something's a little unusual.

Okay. Um, the other thing was, and again, the the investment in banking is wonderful. Please, I would love to have that continue. Um, there was 2 million withdrawn each month. If it's possible to do a little summary on what that 2 million each month was for, that's all I have. And I'd be happy to vote to Oh, wait, wait. What if that's my question? I have one question. Okay.

I noticed on the public works report it said they replaced the motor on the ariation wheel at the lagoons. Um, how long was it out? Does it go I mean I know we get odor at our house all the time and I didn't know if it was the lagoon if I thought it was magnolia. So Lagoon system is ma'am. There's [clears throat] an aation wheel in the racetrack and it basically it's an agitator and it was down for I guess a week or two depending on it's been down two times but depending on how long it takes for the machinist to build that machine that piece it varies. Okay, it's back up and running and we're just trying to get by until the new plants online. But we had a temporary variator correct inside of it. So

now the one that was in permanent place was down but we had temporary in running. Correct. Okay. But most than the long-term smell at our house must be Magnolia. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. That's it. Jason. Anybody else? If not, we need a motion to approve the rest of the consent agenda. I move that we accept the rest of the consent agenda. You have a second.

I'll second. Voting signs in favor. All in favor. All right. New business. This is uh receive the monthly engineering report from Dunaway and DBI.

Uh good evening, Mayor Council. Jacob Dupi with Dunaway. Going in on my status report for this month. Starting with development review. Couple things moving with Morningside and Morgan Farms. Uh Morningside phase 1A and phase 1B were at PNZ in December and they'll be on this agenda tonight for y'all's vote. Morgan Farms was also at PNZ in December. Has a couple more things to do uh before it comes to you guys. So we should expect that um next month. Okay. And on the status of engineering design and projects in construction, uh wa both wastewater plants are just rocking along very well. Um still kind of moving forward very slowly with the discharge permits. Uh just kind of check in with them from time to time to make sure things are moving along in the right direction. We had some pretty big milestones for the North Texas meter vault improvements. Um last week they actually tied into the big uh North Texas 24-in pipeline. Uh kind of did an overnight project on that one. So the big hurdle of that project is kind of behind us. They still have some things to do. Um but most of that coordination and kind of the um winteresque version of that project was luckily completed last week. So very good on that one. Um, we just heard a little bit on the Milt Street gravity sewer line which is complete as far as construction and line and service. Uh, just heard today about some of the complaints and so I'll also be following up with Kirk and staff to kind of see what's going on, talk to our inspectors, see what we can do to find out some of these issues are. And then, um, on the heels of that, as we get all that wrapped up, we'll be working with the contractor to repair those roadways, get them back into drivable condition per contract. Um hopefully we'll have all that wrapped up within [clears throat] the next couple weeks kind of keeping in line with the completion of that contract which is the

end of this month. So um those are the main items I had. Were there any questions or anything else? I have one question. It looks like it looks like wildflower is getting ready to start back in next month. And then the elevated um tank says it's starting in 2026. So is that all still on track? So, is it going to be enough water there for when they start putting houses up?

Yeah, it's a good question. So, our normal weekly uh bi-weekly meetings with Dr. Horton, we were supposed to have one last week. They didn't have it yet. So, I don't have a brand new update on Wildflower as of this year. Um, this is based on correspondence with them at the very end of last year. So, as the new year kicks off, their housing sales could be changing and whatnot. Um, but I should be getting something from them pretty soon here. The last thing that they had mentioned was kind of quarter one of this year. So, we'll see if that continues or not, but it's it's all still in the middle to keep moving forward pretty soon here. So, there other questions for Jacob.

The um because of the internet, I can't um see the whole thing. The Greenville issue is on Kimley Horn, not you. Right. Greenville the roadway. Yes, ma'am. That's correct. Okay. Thanks. [clears throat] All right. So, no other questions. We need a motion to approve the uh report. Thank you. I'll make a motion to approve the Dunaway report. We have a second.

We have a second. Voting signs in favor. All in favor? All right. Item 4.2 two is uh our monthly engineering report from Kimley Horn. Elizabeth was unable to be here tonight. She is actually on vacation. Um if you have questions on the report, I'm happy to try to answer them. If not, if you need to postpone that report, we understand. I've got a quick question. F first of all, is the YouTube working? Okay, because my husband said it wasn't. So, at the beginning, thank you. It is now. Yes, I think it's slow.

Um, IPO number four, the wastewater um, water wastewater and roadway impact fee study assessment. Um, and what have we added? I've tried to go through my mind to see what have we added that we're going to need an amendment to the impact fee study cuz everything we've had it's they've been here since 2022 and we've had all of these developments that we knew were going on. I was trying to rack my brain as to what's been added.

I don't think anything's been added. I think um there's been a delay and cost change over a period of time. Um, Miguel, have you talked to Elizabeth about that or do you want to Okay,

the last [clears throat] the last u conversation or correspondence I had with Elizabeth was to uh place at the very least the roadway impact fee portion on hold to allow us time to work on the master thorougher plan to uh be able to come up with a new roadway. way so that they can incorporate our future needs in this impact fe study. I have not heard from them since then. Um but my understanding is that we're going to place at the very least that portion on hold.

I I think we uh identified early on that we needed an impact fee study, but we also had um you know a dozen other things in between that time period when we signed them on. So they haven't charged us for anything that they have not provided. Um, so at this time we'll probably just kind of keep a hold on that until we're ready to move forward. Okay. So it's still on hold. Yes, ma'am. Okay.

There are times when they may bring something to staff, but we'll we'll hold it and we'll not bring it to you until we're ready to move forward with it. And I'm just going to repeat this so it's clear in my mind. So we're waiting for the our traffic study, our thoroughfare plan, and they will incorporate that into this along with the so water, waste, water, and roadway impact. It's part of it all kind of works together.

They're all part of one whole project. They they weren't broken apart. Um some cities like doing that all at the same time. And I believe now there's local government code requirements that uh create a very uh lengthy procedure for the adoption of new roadway or or new impact fees for development. Um and the reason we want to hold off is just there's too many projects going on on our end for for planning. We just don't have the bandwidth to work on the master thoroughare plan at the local level at this time. Okay. Um and we want to do it in house. We don't want to go with outside consultants. I believe we can do this in house. We just don't have the bandwidth to do it right now. So, this project is on hold.

Okay. Until we can get our all elements aligned. So, they have the latest information to uh put this together. Okay. And let me just add just for clarification for anyone that might be concerned, impact fees are for new development paid by developers. So, it wouldn't impact any existing residents. Do we have any other questions on this report? Um, I do about the Greenville Avenue. Um, we may we if we can't answer it, we may need to postpone this item zone. Okay.

If staff can't answer it, it's an observation. Okay. Um the the August 24 agreement that was with the county commissioner's court, if my memor is correct, it required a big sign to be posted saying it was a joint funded project and I went down the road today and it's not there. Can you give me the anticipated date for compliance when it would be up? Um Garrett might be able to give you the date. Uh we had the sign printed and they did not put the emblem on it that was supposed to be on there. So, that they've been tasked with fixing that. Um, and they have been slow, but Garrett can give you a better update. [clears throat]

I messaged uh Penny over at the sign shop and requested that weeks ago. She was on vacation and I got back with her last Thursday, Friday, and we're working together with the with them to get it resolved. They are aware of it. So, you're talking about the Colin County, correct? [clears throat] Okay. Thank you. Okay, that's all I have. Anyone else? Yeah, I'll make a motion to accept the Kimley Horn second engineering report.

Voting signs in favor. All in favor. All right. Item 4.3. So, update from project manager. Um, I'm not going to try to butcher your name. I'm sorry. Uh, AGCM regarding the public safety building. [snorts] Thank you, mayor and council. I'm Bob Meyers. Uh, Denker could not be with us this evening, so I'm here

for our update report through [clears throat] December. Uh, in our report, you'll see the health indicator shows uh, at the conclusion of this project, the budget is excellent. Uh we actually had some owner contingency that we were able to bring back in neighborhood of $17,850. Um the schedule was good. Um we'd like to, you know, see it done faster, but but it was done and completed now uh with some of the issues that came up during the project. And the quality is excellent. Uh we're very pleased with the the way the project looks. Um, we [clears throat] did get the certificate of occupancy on January 5th, so the the building can be fully occupied and used at this time. Uh, Speed Fabcree is working on the closeout documents and those include the asbuilt drawings, uh, warranties, manuals, um, operation procedures, and, [snorts] uh, so they will getting that to us. We'll review that and get that signed off and and back into the city when that's all completed. And then that'll bring us to the final action, which will be the release of the retainage. Uh retainage sits at about $52,000 right now. So when all that work is complete, then we'll be able to uh recommend that that be paid. Uh the items that the city's working on, uh there's some furnishings, artwork, monitors, and phones. I don't know if that's complete. I don't know for sure, but but anyway, we we did meet today on the artwork. There's some artwork in the project that we're working to get hung. There's some wall applications, uh displays that we're going to work to get that up in the building. And that leads us to the last general item, uh the uh grand opening. And I know that that's in discussion right now. I don't think the specific time for that has

been set yet. So, as we get all these things put together and the project's fine-tuned, then uh you know, it should be ready for that when when you're ready for the grand opening. You have any questions for us on the project? Questions? Go ahead. I have a little one and again I'm going to defer this to a chief. Um, recently when we were there, there was um a comment that the there was an odor of some evidence that had been gathered and I wondered if the ventilation was still being worked on or I'm trying to be vague. [laughter] [clears throat]

Yeah, that that group has been here for the last two days and and they went up on the roof today and they said something wasn't working properly on that ventilation. Okay. And they're on top of it. and their equipment's still there, so they're they'll be back again. Thank you. Anyone else? Thank you. I'll make a motion to approve the AGC Josephine monthly final status. I'll second.

Voting signs in favor. All in favor? All right. Item 4.4. uh received the October 25 monthly report November and December from our city planner Miguel.

Um honorable mayor, members of the city council, as requested, we revised the October report. It can um upon approval, it'll be attached in the minutes from that the that meeting. Uh the November report was revised based on feedback received last month. And um I have my December report. If you have any questions, uh thank you Dr. Sardo and Council Member Richway for um submitting your questions ahead of time. I emailed the entire council. I tried printing everything, but it was going to be several pages and decided to save paper. Uh but I can follow up on those questions and attach that to the report and the minutes if requested. Thank you for responding. It was very nice. appreciate. Great questions.

Uh let's see. Um because my internet is still not uh working u from your email, um could I simply um ask about um the railway?

Yes. So, um, we met with a prospective developer who is looking at potentially purchasing a large parcel of property that is adjacent to the railway. Um, at the same time, we had been seeking out the the rail district to have a meeting to understand what their future plans are so that we can align our plans with theirs and ensure that there's no conflicts in development. I did attend the board meeting in November in Sulfur Springs and um from my perspective there they were focused a little bit more on the operations of the rail. However, there were some comments made at that time that they some of the board members would like to see the freight rail extending all the way to WY through this rideway. Um, and al although we have had the understanding that it's not going to get built, it's it's financially prohibitive,

we have to treat it as if they will build it one day cuz you you really don't know if they could one day just out of nowhere get a grant and have all the money to build it.

So, we have to treat it as an active railroad rightway. And that is why we had to deal with our agent to understand the procedures, distancing requirements and spacing between crossings. Um so the the the purpose of this meeting that we had with them was to understand what the process is. They don't have a specific set of guidelines. It seems like it's more based on the proposed development. They'll review the proposed development and then they'll they'll provide feedback before formally submitting the request. and uh and the developer and the city would uh essentially co-sign that application then go to the to the right of way but the any fees that would be paid to the district for those crossings would be borne by the developer not the city.

Thank you. Um December. Um okay. Um could regarding the December plan um could I just ask regarding plat 254 you mentioned that the easements being abandoned. Could you share a little bit about that?

Yes. At the time that uh final plat and Jacob can uh shed some light as well and and help me out. Uh at the time the final plot was under review. Um, Jacob discovered an an easement granted to Colin County. Uh, because the easement is not necessary and actually encroaches on lots that are to be platted and sold. Um, during the review, it was requested that they abandon the easement. They the developer reached out to Colin County. The county said, "Well, because the property was annexed, that easement no longer belongs to the county. Now it belongs to the city. Upon the direction of the city attorney, uh the developer uh put forward the uh was requested to submit an appraisal and the easement of uh meets and bounds for um the city council to review. This will be an executive session item and we'll present the the appraisal and the easement abandonment uh for discussion so that the council could then act on the ordinance and establish the fee that the developer will be required to pay the city for abandoning this easement.

Okay. Thank you. Okay. Um when you mentioned public safety planning at the very bottom of your report, um are you mentioned comments are are comments being sent anywhere and are discussions happening with Hunt and Colleen uh for mutual aid for at the county level? This is for these new areas.

So this is solely for the uh Colin County dispatch. Uh we could incorporate Hunt and we will uh incorporate Hunt County. Uh but this this project uh was already underway at the county side. So we're just instead of us taking the lead, we're letting them take the lead and we're supporting them on that. Uh but I imagine we could participate with Hunt County as well to create a a grid that works for both parts of Josephine. Okay. All right. Thank you. It's just dispatch. That's what the limitation, right? Yeah. It's it's it's really to help classify calls and uh assist in better reporting and recordkeeping to map calls.

Okay, that's that's all I have. Thank you so much. Any other questions from the council?

Do you have anything else? Miguel, you want to carry on? Um I I guess an announcement [clears throat] regarding the UDC uh focus groups. I know there was a question about public participation. So the focus groups are intended for the stakeholders, developers, engineers, architects, staff, commission, and city council that deal with them on a day-to-day basis. The opportunity for public input is the online survey. That survey will close on the 27th. I'll be working with our PIO team to get uh more participation and then uh I will be sending out an email for potential dates, but the intent is to have a joint planning and zoning commission and city council workshop, one in February u to review current progress and then in April to review the actual draft of the of the UDC. Now, I want to clarify that a UDC is not necessarily an entirely new code. is it's simply just bringing together three books and maybe actually four into one and there will be opportunities to address concerns where where maybe the city's not requiring enough and other areas where the city might be requiring too much and we bring those things down. So that it's a matter of finding a balance uh aimed at fulfilling the vision of the comp plan. primarily it's really attracting and preparing for commercial growth that we don't have but it's it's coming in the short term and we want to be prepared for that um that type of development here.

Okay. If I may, two years ago there was a volunteer group of 13 people who were invited to give feedback as a long-term planning committee into the original compound comp plan. There were, I believe, two open sessions for the public to attend to see maps and all that. The feedback came to the city. I don't know what's been done with that, but um the city residents are the ones paying taxes. The city residents are the ones who are going to spend their money or not spend their money in this area.

The city residents are going to be living next to these buildings possibly. and the city residents are going to be b going past these development UDC code things.

Also, the UDC code, I'm going to say it again. Love had 800 changes to theirs. And I don't think Lach is weird. It's my opinion. Um, I believe that the citizens of this city are busy. You have to click several times to see what the UDC even is. In my humble opinion, I'm only one person. I can don't know what the rest of council wants, but I believe the citizens need a say in what's happening with the development, especially if there it has to do with setbacks that they may or may not want to buy, especially if it has to do with certain grasses, certain trees, certain landscaping, certain water use that they're paying for every month. Again, it's just my opinion,

but I'm passionate about the citizens and that's why I'm saying that.

Oh, and that's fair. and um you know the the the UDC I think what we want to clarify and establish is that um the goal is not to be more restrictive but rather less restrictive. So for example, you mentioned setbacks. Um, one of the things that we will explore is actually less restrictive setbacks. Actually, our current setbacks are pretty relaxed and I believe as a city I have not encountered problems with that where where some cities say no that that's too relaxed. We got to re those in and make tighter setbacks. I am of the opinion that less restrictive setbacks um better allow residents to enjoy their property rights and maximize and use their properties that you know they worked hard for. Uh as far as landscaping um again I think it's about providing more freedom. You know some residents don't want to have a yard to irrigate every week and and spend you know hundreds of dollars in their water bill. Some do. So that the code the intent of the code is just to provide flexibility in design within limits but at the same time providing predictability to developers and the people who are going to use it. Um existing residents will very largely be unaffected by the UDC. They're vested. It will only be affected if there's redevelopment activities within those lots. So for example um say for example landscaping and we decide I'm just throwing this as an example and I put that in my written report. We say hey St. Augustine grass is not allowed because that is just extremely waterthirsty and somebody has bermuda grass and says hey I want to rip it out and put St. Augustine at that point yes the UDC kicks in and says no you can't have that

but that's those are limited instances. We're not going to go property by property, you know, across the street and say, "Hey, your current house doesn't meet UDC standards. You got to do something." That's not the goal here. And there are protections to protect existing properties vested in law. And those are, you know, constitutional rights, state rights, and and obviously incorporated as local rights in the UDC. Okay. Question.

Yes. If I wanted to, like right now, I don't have to ask anybody what kind of grass to grow. Actually, I don't like to grow grass, so we don't grow a lot of grass. But if I wanted to, and we had the UDC, it would have to be a certain kind of grass. and if a certain type of tree if I wanted to plant another tree and that's kind of taking to me that's kind of taking away from if I want an apple tree and we decide apple trees aren't good in our UDC.

So in my that's kind of where I'm coming from. I understand and in my experience um for example in Corinth when we were looking at trees and landscaping for example uh we developed a list of the trees we don't want that we're like you can have everything but these and that's really what we're looking at. We're not looking at I mean thousands of species and say line by line saying this isn't allowed. It's more like you're allowed to have these except for these that research and and in common knowledge we know are harmful

to the environment. water thirsty and just trees that are just not good trees for upkeep and other reasons. So, um again, uh this this is to condense regulations and and establish more uh right now our code is residential heavy in terms of regulations and not really heavy at all for commercial. So for example, and I'll use an example, Dollar General, there's no landscaping there because there's none required for commercial development. And that the UDC would address that and say, well, you're required to have say, you know, one landscape, one tree per every 10 parking spaces to provide some shade, landscape developers, you know, sidewalks and walkways, you know, to connect adjacent developments, things like that. No, they were supposed to have screening.

Screening maybe not trees, but it was so that's addressed, but it could be enhanced. You can say, "Hey, no longer wood. Now you have to do a full masonry wall with a shrub buffer for additional sound barrier, you know." So, so again, the the intent is to improve the quality of that commercial development that that we want and we know it's coming. It's just setting up for it. Yeah. And if we don't take the opportunity now, we can't later, right? And I mean, I agree. I mean, I don't think we should have apple trees in the front of Dollar General, right? [laughter] But falling on your car when you're parking. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. As a guide, that makes sense to me.

As a guide, I normally send developers to the Smartscape. There's a Texas Smartscape website maintained by our Council of Governments, and that is a pretty good resource for all types of landscape material. Like again, I'm I'm I'm pretty much laidback, just within limits, just reasonable limits that I feel enhance the quality of the development that that this community deserves. Thank you for sharing. No problem. I'm grass. Okay. You have a motion. I'll make a motion to approve the October, November, and December monthly planning report. We have a second. I have a second. It's fine. You second it.

I'll second.

All right. We have a second motion or voting signs in favor. All in favor? All right. Next item 4.5. This is the proposed Josephine Farmers Market and use of the city park. Mayor, members of the council, before Valerie uh takes the podium, um just wanted to introduce this item. Uh Miss Martin reached out to the city uh to Jericho and then uh through our department uh with the idea of establishing a farmers market. Um we have been in preliminary discussions trying to understand what the vision is. Um I feel that it is it's it's more time for her to present that vision to the council and if the council desires to move forward um we would ask for a motion or or direction for staff to prepare an agreement and start you know hammering down those details for to bring it back either next month or in March. Uh my understanding is she's trying to get started in in about April. So we we have we have time but um we don't want to do all this effort if council is not you know in agreeance with or in agreement with with this idea. So I'll let Miss Martin take the podium now and um she'll take it from here.

Good evening council. So thank you for coming. No of course. So what I have here proposed is Josephine Farmers Market. So essentially the summary is a communitydriven co-op. Uh it's an event series farmers [clears throat] market. So it would be a temporary maybe once or twice a month on basis depending on popularity. Um this is not going to be a flea market. This is going to be a full-on farmers market similar to WY and to McKenna. So we have vendor applications. Um we have Sorry, I'm nervous. This is my first time. Is the microphone on? Is the light on on the phone? Yeah, it's just

the screen. Okay. Can you hear me? Okay. It's more about the YouTube. I would go back and I relisten to the YouTubes and sometimes it's really hard to hear people on. Oh, okay. Understand. You can. Okay. Better. Is this better?

Okay. Next. So, here we have this is a strategic plan. So our mission is to create an inclusive reoccurring event that celebrate local agriculture, small businesses and community culture here in Josephine. So I know this is a very rapidly growing town and because of that I think it's definitely probably the best time to begin a farmers market to bring more community together. Uh we would like to become a hub of seasonal events and hopefully from that spout off to other things including like a barbecue cookoff where we have a bunch of restaurants come out and throw an event series where we have sort of like a chef driven uh man versus food type thing. Next page. So vendor booths. This is what we're looking at. These are our six that we're going to highlight on. Local produce when it's seasonal. So, generally Texas season is in the spring and summer, a little bit in the fall, but that's more gourds and things like that. We're looking at doing baked and cottage goods, and I can go into detail about cottage goods and in a couple more slides, crafts and homemade goods, specialty or unique seasonal gifts, pet products, health and beauty products as well. And then we're also dedicating space to community tables. So being a parent here in Josephine, what I've noticed is it's very hard to find resources for my kids and very unless you're constantly searching social media or you just happen to hear somebody else, another parent say something. Um I have no idea about when it came to soccer, football, baseball. uh the only source that I had of knowledge is the YMCA and that's when I used to live in Leavonne. So that was the closest thing for me. And so with

these community tables, what I'm hoping to project is more community involvement in local sports, Boy Scouts, and uh other community um nonprofits as well to get the word out so that way we can become more integrated as a community. Next page.

So my requirement for vendors I have here, we're requiring business and tax documentation. So that would be a sales permit, an LLC, or proof of nonprofit status if they are a nonprofit doing a community table. Next page, health and safety compliance for food vendors. So, if that has to involve vendors that are selling non-cottage foods, so that would be hot foods or foods that have a um time temperature control need, which is your hot foods, your salads, uh desserts, depending on what they are. Uh if they're a cottage food producer, they have to follow food cottage Texas law, which cottage foods include things like baked goods, cookies, breads, nuts, teas, spices, barbecue sauce, and pickled items. And so since all these have a high acidity, you don't have to worry about the possibility of someone getting sick. And then marketing and agreement fees. So vendors would sign the marketing and agreement fee with me. Um they would have the payment of the booth fees and commitment to attend scheduled market dates which I would work with the council to see what dates are available with you guys depending on if you have other events going on like if you have something for Fourth of July or if you have like a Christmas market that you guys are already in charge of. I wouldn't be the one hindering you guys from doing your own thing. Next page. So, how do vendors sign up? They follow the Facebook market book market Facebook page. They fill out the jot form and in the jot form, it has a verified if they're have their LLC, they would have to submit that information, the contact person, and then I would reach out to them, have a meeting with them, and see what items they're selling to make sure

that we don't have similar things within the farmers market. So, I wouldn't want to have a farmers market where you have 10 people selling sourdough bread. I would make sure that there would be a good variety of vendors and the agreement. And so far, these are the businesses that have signed up that are interested. So, the ones that say other, a lot of those are they usually make crafts. So, my favorite things by she makes um knitted like little stuffed animal things. So, TwoTap Bakery, Baked Goods, HR Creations, I'm not necessarily sure what they are. I would have I haven't had a meeting with them yet because I wanted to make sure that council would like the give me approval before I went and, you know, reached out to these vendors and gave them hope before telling them like, oh, well, it's not happening. Um, but as you see, there's a lot there's a good variety in the mix. Next page. So, so far, I believe we have about 12 to 15 signed up. Next page. And so this is a little bit about me. Um, I went to culinary school. So I'm a food service management major. I've been a Texas native, born and raised. I've been, uh, living on this side of town since 2022 in the Leavon area. Um, next page. about me. So, here I think would probably open your eyes more about the city of Josephine demographics. And I got this pulled from a realtor of property resource. So, basically, this is demographics about families that live here. And I mean, we all see it. So, we have a professional demographic. We have population growth as you see. And we have small families. So people that are

having children here that of course you see the park. The park is awesome. Um I use it. Next page. So as you see here demographics continued. Middberg is middle inome families and the median age is about 37. Average household incomes disposable incomes and the unemployment rate as you see there. Next page. So, what we're asking for is we're asking the use of public spaces, so to host the market because right now we do not have a home. Um, we're asking any assistance with permit and zoning. So, whatever that you guys are requesting, needing from us, we're willing to work with you and do whatever it is that you ask. And we're access to city owned equipment. So, I think that we already figured out with Miguel that we would have to rent our own trash cans and things like that and make sure that we clean up if we are able to use the city park. We're asking for a 3 to six month waiver reduction in permanent utility fees um just to help us get started to see if this is going to work and continue to grow. And then promotion and outreach. were asking if we can possibly get um added to the city newsletters, website, social media just to gain more attention and excitement around something that I believe will grow and live on past my time here in Josephine. Next page. Any questions? I know it's a lot of information.

Um actually I have a couple. Um, are you working with Tara now in Leavon? Sorry. Are you working with Tara Parks and Leavonne at the market that they have? No, I am not. Okay. Um, she's been very successful. I didn't know if there's a benchmark opportunity to go speak to her. No, I would love to. I mean, I'm doing this all on my own. I I This is There's a There's a art just for benchmarking. There's an artisan market every Sunday. No, no. Third Sunday of the month, I think it is. um from 10 to 3 in Leavonne in Elevon in one of their open spaces and she's been doing this for six or nine months now. Mhm.

And they keep growing tremendously. So she she's a good person to talk to if needed. Um I did see something about raffles in here. Um I don't know where I saw it. Is that one way that you were going to try to make some money revenue generate revenue or Uh, I thought I saw something about a Yeah, key initiatives. Um, I thought I saw it somewhere. Fundraising for local charities and organizations. Yeah. Oh, then maybe and key initiatives.

Okay. Oh, I get it. It's under It's a community tables, promote resources, fund raise, and engage the youth. It's that slide with the little vest getting that thing. Um, I just wanted to let you know just for to in kind that raffles are not possible with nonprofits. Okay. For three years, okay?

Um but you can do other creative things. Believe me, it's okay. Um I love the idea. Thank you for coming before us. It's an exciting time. Um about a year and a half ago, somebody came here about wanting a farmers market and we said no. What has changed since then? Since the last person that came, were they not as organized or infrastructure?

I think there were just some unknowns about how we were going to use space and we might be getting a little bit closer to defining how we're going to use our the space that we have. Um Miguel might be better able to answer the question. There's still some unknowns here about we we just can't give things of value away. So, we'll have to be real careful as we structure our contracts. We just didn't want to take it much farther until we kind of got an indication from you if you were even interested or not. So, there's still quite a few things that would need to be worked out if we move forward. I I have one question. Have how many fresh food vendors like have you gone to some of the towns around here? Like I have a friend in Merit that actually goes to city markets around and sells their goods that they sell on their property because we don't have a grocery store in Josephine. I think this is really good if we can get fruits and vegetables and that type of

things for our citizens and that's what I would like to see more so as well as you know the crafts people like that as well. But that would be my goal for seeing this going forward because to me that's what a farmers market is. The farmers bring their stuff to market. No, exactly. We we tried there was one tried down in Nevada and basically there wasn't any fruits and vegetables. It was just all, you know, stuff and it it didn't get off the ground.

No. Exactly. And so I actually my um my stepfather owns uh an LLC so he's able to do run businesses and things like that. And so uh I work for a food distributor. Okay. In for produce. So I actually have a full like three-page list of everything that's local in Texas. Okay. When it's available. Go ahead. And where does it grow [laughter] in Texas? organically grown. My that would be my two things is the some of them you see they just become a knickknack sale. It's all handy. They call it a farmers market, but

there's there tends to be just tons of other things that don't don't pertain and they just fold up or they become a junk sale. No, exactly. And so I mean living here, being a resident here, that's one of my frustrations is that there is no grocery store. Um, if I don't make it to the Walmart in WY before I go home, um, we're going to scrge [laughter] and figure it out. Yeah. Dollar General, nothing here.

And then the other big thing would be setup. You know, the use of the of the park without disturbing everyday activities of people using the park and then of that that would be obviously a staff thing, but I myself would want to see that on a on a piece of paper, you know, something of that nature that moving to move forward. I know we don't need it tonight to move forward, but you know, um just straggled tables or we want to see something organized where it's going to be where it's designated.

Exactly. And that way because in the spring when spring hits the park is busy with a lot of people using that splash pad and using the park and that's the main focus of the park in my vision in my eyes. Can we spend a moment talking about location? Yeah. Hopefully Miguel has some idea. I have a couple of questions before we get to that. Please go ahead. Go ahead. Um so where are you at in your business model at this point? Do you do you have a nonprofit license or or Okay. Um and you've I'm assuming you're already started working on a business plan of how you want this all structured and your fee structure and all that and I'm assuming that's what you're already working on. Yes, that's already done.

Okay. Um have you considered or I I know that that our food truck park is still under works with Miguel, right? Are you planning on leveraging that as well with the park? Uh I was talking with Miguel. Maybe there might be an opportunity to use that in the morning and then the food trucks come in the afternoon. Okay. That way you get full use out of it all day. Okay. Um whatever opportunity or whatever space that you have available where I can So you're looking That's what that's what I'm I'm trying to understand. So uh you're basically looking at this is just going to be morning hours. Soon as Texas hot sun comes out, you guys are gone. Yeah.

Okay. All right. I'm good. Thank you. to follow up on that council member and and yes the the idea in the discussions that we've had and I kind of had drawn out a few uh kind of layouts but initially there was somewhere else and then we decided it may be best to leverage that concrete pad and use that during daytime hours when the trucks are not there. Uh I don't anticipate trucks to be there, you know, 247. Um so as we talk to the interested parties in terms of food trucks, uh most likely they'll operate at other hours and and the goal is to maximize the use of that pad for the farmers market. And down the road, if successful, ideally maybe potentially there could be uh an opportunity for a canopy or things like that. But it's too early to discuss those things. We just wanted to know if this is a project that the council wants the staff to move forward with Miss Martin and we'll bring back the user agreement hammering out those details and and for your review and approval.

So it would be a kind of a joint food truck/farmers market. No, they would be separate separate matters, separate um

agreements. Uh it would be handled separately. Now, if if there is an opportunity for food trucks to if there's room or there's an opportunity to maybe push out the vendors outside of the pad and and have space for the food trucks, then we could incorporate that as well. But it's it's still too early to determine the list of food trucks and their hours. Um, but those logistics will be handled uh as separate items, but but we're going to plan to ensure that everything works harmoniously. Okay. So, Valerie's a nonprofit, correct? But then we'll go ahead and charge the vendors. Gotcha. The

She will she will she will the city would establish rent but a fee to charge Miss Martin's enterprise or nonprofit and then she would for the use of the park and then set out the guidelines for clean up things like that. she wouldn't run the the the food the farmers market and we don't anticipate police being involved. I I don't I mean I don't think I've never seen a cop at a farmers market. I mean no I meant just traffic wise because [sighs and gasps] the I mean uh I I really don't think so.

I think it's too early to determine that. I mean we're still trying to drum up popularity. Okay. Um, but I mean, yes, in in the future months, years, if say like we have a big giant event in the summer for Fourth of July like Grand Prairie does, um, then yeah, then we would talk about like, okay, maybe we need enforcement for safety and things like that because there's so many people coming to this park that want to enjoy, you know, like carnival rides and things like that if we ever get to that point in the future. like this. So in the the agreements you you you guys are going to look at that for future to kind of protect us in the future.

Yeah. I mean the the the agreement would address all you know hypothetical scenarios. Um but again the this is a small operation for now as it and again this agreement could be for as a pilot program for 3 to six months and then that could be established and say oh we need to address this in the next iteration of the agreement. So my recommendation do a three three to six month agreement maybe just for the like spring and summer and then in the fall evaluate what what worked what what didn't worked and then we bring a revamped agreement for renewal uh to the city council at that time.

Something we might want to consider too as we get the MDD off the ground is this might be a very appropriate project for the MDD to take on and probably be a great first project for them. Uh we might even look at the food trucks as we advance with that plan as well, they have their own sales tax. So should there be a need for um a discount if you will or something that can come from MDD if they determine there's you know a betterment of the community and then that can be repaid to the city so the city doesn't have a loss of something. But um I think um Justin Weiss the um consultant

the consultant we had out here once I'd like to get him back in here in a couple of months once we get the MDD board up and maybe their first meeting it would be a great opportunity to have a a really meaningful discussion about possibilities. So I think we're a little ways away but we just really wanted to gauge interest. Do you want one here? Do you not? Um, and then that way we can kind of keep exploring and and u bring you something back maybe in a month or two as we move forward or not. Lisa, why do you think we need a consultant? So, the the economic development consultant, we used him once out here and we had an arrangement where we just used him as needed and I used him so far just for help on the bylaws to get that first draft.

Um, the MDD is going to need a little education on what the MDD can do. um what they're allowed to do uh as their organization. So, I'd like to have Justin out here just at least for that first meeting and kind of plan some education for the new board and for council, too.

Um and then I think he might be able to give some great advice on, you know, uh opportunities like this as far as what the MD may or may not want to be involved in. um he's got some expertise and just as a reminder he was uh fate's economic development director um and he is now retired from that venture and he is um consulting but he's also a professor at the university in commerce the east east Texas state or&M commerce I forget they changed the name up a little bit east Texas&M maybe yes

so just just an idea we certainly won't bring um anybody in here without consulting you and and having you sign off on on anything that's going to cost us. Only question. Do you have like preliminary how you what part of the park plan on using for now? It'll be the concrete path. Okay.

And and designate delineate 10 x 10 spots. You know, that's a usual standard. Uh I live by the Mckin one, so I I'm using that as a inspiration. It's just your standard 10 x10 spot. Um, and you know, based on the number of vendors and if there's some overlap, we'll orient them. We want to do it similar to how we laid out the vendors for the we've done for the 4th of July and things like that. So, we'll we'll make sure that we don't interfere with all the other elements of the park. We want to activate the park. Obviously, safety is also a big point. So, we'll we'll make sure those matters are addressed.

I think we have enough information staff. there's an agreement we can say come back to staff or the council next month with something more is staff I mean is the council wanting to go that direction or as a whole or what what's the consensus I I felt like we had enough to vote tonight but you you're looking for more information well I'm just saying to start moving forward with the process the the request my request is to direct me to prepare an agreement and we'll bring that forward next month yeah with all those details and then you'll review it if there's items you want to work through. We can have a maybe a workshop item and so we're so we're directing staff not making a motion

or do you want me to make a motion? You can make a motion. I have one more question real quick. Um so you don't have any set vendors yet? So is the fee that you're going to charge the city going to charge is that set on how many different vendors come? like if she gets six vendors to come, is it going to be the same price as if she gets 24 vendors to come? Like how's that gonna um if that is the structure that the council prefers to do somewhat of a pro-rated structure, we could we could incorporate that. I I will say that from a staff perspective, I think it'll be difficult to to keep track and monitor because these will happen.

No, no, no, no. I'm no I'm glad you're asking. I think that would be her business decision as far as how she wants to have her vendors pay her. I don't think we would be involved in any part of that. Okay. So, it wouldn't matter. It would be the same fee whether she had six or 24. I think there's two I think there's two topics here. The first one is is we don't care what she does with her business. From a city perspective, if she has six vendors come out there, are we charging her $60? If she has 24, are we still charging her $60? I think we're charging per month. Yeah. a certain fee on, you know, what areas she's using. So, it'll be set.

I think those are kind of the next step questions from you. We can actually kind of delve into those a little bit more. We just wanted to before we spend a lot of time on it, we just kind of wanted to gauge your interest. We'll evaluate that option as well or the flat fee and then council can make a a decision on what they want to put in that agreement. But well, thank you for bringing that up because that that is a really good question point. Yeah, cuz if if like the fee is $300 and she's only charging people $25 within two months, she's got to have a whole bunch of people and if she only has six, she's going to be losing money real fast. Understood. I I agree. Thank you for bringing that up.

So, I'll make a motion um for an agreement proposal to be uh developed. I'll second that. Can you repeat your last? [laughter] Sure. Um I I'll I'll make a motion for a uh farmers market agreement proposal to be uh uh done by um Miguel's uh development team. Okay, I'll second that.

Voting signs in favor. And thank you to both of you guys for presenting tonight.

Okay. Item 4.6. This is discuss consider an act to approve the final plat for morning size morning side phases 1A and 1B. All right. Good evening, Mayor Council. Back up here again. Um, so I know it's one agenda item, but I'm going to request that we actually have two actions. Um, so phase 1A of Morning Side is um, residential community. I think y'all are aware of it across from the high school. This particular phase has about 110 homes within it. Um, they have completed construction for it. This went through PNZ in December. It was granted a conditional approval by PNZ pending a final walkth through and cleaning up of all punch list final construction related items. Um per our inspector that's been out there, everything has been wrapped up and completed. And so what we would be recommending um from you all is full approval of the final plat for phase 1A.

Okay. One question if you don't mind. Um, it looks like there's flood areas, but it looks like in this development there's no flood areas on home lots. Is that correct? That is correct. So, when we get to phase 1B, you know, there will be a little bit more detailed discussion on the flooding. Uh, I'm sorry, not flooding, the FEMA boundaries. Specifically for phase 1A, the FEMA flood plane does not encumber any of the proposed lots within this phase.

All right. And um if I wanted to ask a question about the open space, do I do that later or No, you can. Sure. If you'd like to talk about it. Okay. Um I saw that there are three common areas. Is it possible to have a bigger common area that could be more useful to more people for more things? So, at this point in the game, since the concept plans were approved many years ago, many months ago, many years ago, it's a done deal.

It'd be difficult to do it at this point. They would basically you would have to approve this final plat and then they'd have to come back and replplat it with lots in a different orientation if you were seeking to combine them like that. Okay, got it. They messed up all the stuff in the ground. Is PNZ now finally approved with since it's been cleaned up and so has it gone back to PNZ for It did not go back to PNZ. They approved it with a condition to go back to PNZ before it can come here. So PNZ

212 requires if they approve with the condition that when the condition is complied with by the developer it goes back to P&Z for approval without a condition. Without a condition. Okay. And then it can come with council. The attorney has spoken. So this item will be do we need to deny it? Do we need to table this item? We can just I don't think council has jurisdiction until PNZ approved the final without any conditions. Okay. So just a question. We conditionally approve it with the PNZ's approval. No. I just I just wanted clarification. Yeah. We we have no authority until then. We just pull the item.

You can't take any action. Yeah. We're just going to table it until the next meeting or when it's reented. Postpone postpone it. And so does the same thing happen with the next one. Can we discuss the next one about the the the lots that are in a flood area? Yeah. If you just want some information on it, we can. Yeah. So, can you show me on the next map image? The flat requirements of the subdivision ordinance. Mhm. Okay. Other than that item and and how do you think you can require any additional changes? I just wanted to see it if I can be a little bit curious. [laughter]

It may not be February. It may be March due to the PNZ schedule before we can get it back here. Well, once it's done with PNZ, it'll be back. So, the black lines, could you tell me what those big dots are, those big dashes? Yeah. So, there's there's and I know the microphone. Um there's several different lines to kind of indicate. Um you can kind of see it's actually where you see the where it says 4x block. Right. Right. So right above that it says limit of zone A flood insurance and it's it's a thinner dashed line.

That represents the existing FEMA map per that particular docket 48085C. So, as you can see, all the lots within phase 1B are encumbered by the flood plane as it sits today. And so, what they've done due to grading on the property is they've redefined the flood plane with that boulder dashed line. There is a city limits line and a city limits a joining line, but as you can kind of see where it hugs the back of the lots like block I one and two. So it follows that up. That is the newly defined flood plane once their detention pond retention pond and all the grading was completed. So one of the things that I was going to bring up specifically for phase 1B as part of the con the other condition that has not been met yet is um they have to submit and get approval for the lmer with FEMA which is a letter of map provision. Um that always happens after construction is completed. They send them their survey and some a handful of other files that FEMO will read and actually issue a determination on. Yes, per your design, your grading, your efforts, the flood plane now mirrors what you have shown on here. And so they've already submitted the LOMER to FEMA. So now it's just in the review process. Um sometimes takes a couple of months. So,

so some of these homes will need to pay flood insurance. Okay. Because it was built up. Yes, ma'am. All right. I appreciate it. Thank you. Do you mind if I uh jump in? I'm the uh my name is Kendall Ham. I'm director of development for DRB Group, the developer Morning Side.

Um I do have a question regarding the conditional approval. Um, I guess my question is is this is the first time that it's been kicked back in a city for conditional approval of the final walk. Those conditions have been met. Um, if if we didn't meet those conditions, I would understand that. However, I I I guess by granting it conditional approval, why not just outright say that no, we don't until you complete this and no, we don't accept this

because the local government code is kind of a kind of strange process. That's you can ask your legislator about that. The local government. Okay. Because this is because city of we in my experience in the past, city of Princeton, city of man, all other cities for little knickknack item just for the sake of scheduling because I heard it mentioned that now we might possibly have to wait until March two more months where we're just sitting on this where we can't get approval on this. Well, just because they did it don't mean they did it right. I mean, if it's got conditions on it, then it has to go back to PNZ. The even if the conditions were met the week after, it still has to go back through PNZ.

Okay. Mayor and council, we will we will seek a special session of the commission prior to the February meeting to rectify the situation. Thank you. And I understand maybe some other cities did it, but that don't mean they followed the the state laws when they did it. Did y'all have any other questions for me? No. Thank you so much. Okay. I apologize about the miss. We'll we'll get it cleaned up and bring it back to you guys. And I assure you, we're not trying to delay you, but we have to follow the the state codes. More traffic. I'm ready.

All right. Item 4.7.

Mine doesn't do that. This is uh let's see. All right. At this time of 7:31 p.m. we will open a public hearing on case number CPA 25-00002 on a future land future land use plan amendment at 520 Milton Street. Honorable mayor, members of the city council, for the record, Miguel Inclan, city planner. U this is an application by a uh developer on behalf of the property owner to amend the future land use plan on these two parcels of land from the low density residential type to the mixed use. Um the purpose behind this request is they have a a zoning case which is right after this for um the Texas local government code. An application for zoning must be in compliance with the comprehensive plan. Uh because the application for zoning is for a non-residential type of zoning category. Um the applicant is requesting this change to the future land use plan. I'll be happy to answer any questions. Some questions were sent via email earlier. Uh there was some confusion about the the existing designation but it is it it has been confirmed per the plan adopted in 2020 and as it's been revised that rem that area has remained uh designated as low density residential

in the future plan in the future land use plan yes I'm sorry so what would be the harm in leaving it as low density residential

the in my opinion the zoning case that comes before that would not be legally you cannot legally adopt it. The now now I want to clarify when when you change a a future land use plan to a specific designation and there's a subsequent resoning that is aligned or consistent with that future land use designation. You as a council are not obligated to approve that zoning change. All it says on the code is a zoning change to be approved needs to be in compliance with the comprehensive plan. Um the attorney can chime in. He has mentioned there's a disagreement and interpretation. I'll defer to him on on that. Uh my concern is that not approving this could jeopardize the zoning case that's coming next after this. But if we had this future plan be the

Jane one second just a point order. Do we have anybody here to speak on the the applicant is is is here. Um I'm just normally I just introduce the item and then I will let the public speak. Yeah. Yeah. We just jumped into asking questions right away. So that's I I can move aside if there's anybody wants to speak on the item and then I can answer all the questions. Uh were you done ma'am? I mean Jane. Yeah. Well point of order. That's correct. Yeah. Um point of order. We need to hear first. Is the applicant here? Would you like to speak? You don't you don't have to, but it's up to you. Yeah. Yeah. if you want to.

Is there anybody else here like to speak? Anybody got any questions for the applicant? I can't find it. Um, I have questions. We going to close the public hearing. Yeah, I'm going to close the public hearing. Now, let's ask questions. Perfect. You're exactly right. [laughter] Good. All right. We're going to I'm going to close the public hearing at 7:35 p.m. on the uh 520 Milton Street. Can you share a little bit of your ideas?

Yeah. So, what we are Well, again, uh my name is Sunny here. I actually represent the uh developers uh the developer side on this uh project. And uh what I do actually have some printouts here of a of a uh it's not official. It's kind of like a like a land use basically like a local retail strip mall and shopping center that we're actually looking to uh develop here on this site. And I'll actually pass you guys. Thank you. So, it's a concept plan. Yeah. Which isn't needed for reszoning. It's just kind of what they're doing with it. Right. And this is on the 1.4 acres.

Great. Thank you, sir. 86 parking space. Mayor and council, if I may, forgive me, Sunny. I What Sunny handed to you is is just for reference only. Uh, note that neither this case nor the zoning case can hinge on what you have in your hands at the moment. plans can change at any time. So, so just this is just to assist you as you as you make your deliberations, but but it cannot be used as the basis

for uh any of the decisions that you make on these two cases. Um I I guess another question I have is have the neighbors been notified of a possible zoning change? Is did that 200 foot thing that that will be discussed in a separate agenda item? Yes. Okay. Um for for future language map amendments, the procedure requires uh review by the planning and zoning commission which happened in December and then um city council final approval and the newspaper uh advertisement prior to the public hear the public hearings and that took place for this future land use map amendment.

Am I allowed to ask and did you get any comments from the public? No. Yeah. I'm sorry. So, no, no, no letters or comments were received as of the day. As of today, actually. Um, and um when it comes to future languages, map amendments, no letters are sent out to the neighbors within 200 ft. They require only a newspaper and website notice. Uh, zoning cases do require written notices to the property owners, but not that's the next step. That and that's the next item. Okay. I'm looking at

any other questions for the for him council. I um well I guess another question I have is the number of parking spaces is allows for fire lanes and all that again it can be subject to change. Yeah that doesn't pertain to I'm ready. So this that that site plan has not been formally reviewed and that comes after the zoning. Okay.

Um, it will be reviewed by planning, engineering, uh, fire, possibly the building official. Fire will confirm the, uh, that the IFC is met. Um, engineering will address the engineering standards. I'll confirm the requirements for park. Does this parcel making the change meet the future land use map? Does it does it fit?

My recommendation is it would create a commercial node. Uh should the the plan is for the county to develop a trail along the the rail regardless of whether a rail line is built there or not. Um this could serve as like a focal point to create like essentially a trail head. And the the applicant uh has expressed a desire to orient part of port some of the portions of those businesses that may be developed there to serve people walking along the trail. And in our opinion, the this right now. Yeah. Hypothetical question. Yes.

Would we have to wait for the trail to be built before the restaurant would be built? We've we have zoned so much. We have zoned so much

property in this city that nobody's ever done. [laughter] I also shared that the developer has propo uh sent site plans for formal review for some time now to get a better idea of what could work at this site before moving forward with purchasing the property and seeking the resoning and this future land use map amendment. The applicant is has has is anxious to submit a site plan should this resoning and should this amendment and the reasoning be approved. I think we have enough information, council, to make a decision one way or the other. I would like to make a motion if if everyone's okay ready for motions.

I think we have enough information. I'll make a motion to um change the future land use uh map from low density residential to mixuse at 502 or 520 Milton Street. We have a motion. Do we have a second? We don't want business in Joseph. No. No. Just give me a second. Give me a second. All right. We're looking for a second. Do we have a second?

The the rest of the rest of the area is zoned [snorts] mixed use around this. And according to what Miguel says is that yay nay whatever's approved. So I think we need some business in Josephine because my tire shop's up in Nevada now. So I'm going to say I'll second. Thank you.

All right. We have a second. Voting signs in favor. [snorts] All in favor? Okay. Next item. This is another public hearing. We will open a public hearing at 7:42 p.m. Case number zone 25-00003 on 520 Milton Street. This is a public hearing to consider testimony and act on a request to admen the zoning ordinance and zoning map of the city of Josephine from single family residential to local retail on the two parcels of land totaling 1.4 4 acres at 520 Milton Street.

Mayor, members of the city council, um this is the formal reasonzoning application for local retail based on the intended uses that the applicant had expressed. Uh we felt that the local retail zoning district was more appropriate for this parcel to um provide a a compatibility with the existing residential properties on on Milton and behind on the other side of the trail along Sebastian. Um, we recommend approval and if this uh no letters in support or opposition have been received uh by staff as of tonight and um just for reference after if this resoning is approved and after the ordinance takes effect the applicant will submit a site plan. The site plans for regular zoning such as this would only require uh planning and zoning commission approval as as of right now based on our code.

All right. Thank you. Is there anything you would like to say? Do you want to speak or? Well, I mean, um, just like, uh, um, we all know here in the city of, uh, Josephine, um, this project is here to basically help, uh, meet the community's needs as far as, uh, local retail businesses such as like, you know, donut shops, coffee shops, and, you know, all hundreds types of businesses that go in local retail shopping centers. As we all are aware, a lot of citizens here in the city of Josephine, they're traveling all the way to Roy City, Leavonne, WY just to get any types of groceries, get any types of services done. And this project here, knowing that it's in a very great prime location right off of Highway 6, will eventually in the future will turn into a six lane as well from, you know, what a lot of people are understanding. Um, we feel like this is a very great site. We're trying to maximize the potential of this um acre and a half with the square footage. Um again, what I did present to you guys, it's not official. Um there might be a few tweaks here and there. We're going to be working together with the city of Josephine, the city staff to um reshape and maximize the square footage and maximize the potential of this site. And uh again, at the end of the day, it's uh we we feel like it will benefit the uh the residents of uh Josephine for sure.

Thank you. We'll ask our questions when I close the public hearing. Is there anybody else here who would like to speak? All right. I will close the public hearing at 7:45 p.m. Council questions, discussion. I would just like to point out that that is a historical house sitting on that piece of property that if there's any way it could be saved, I think that would be cool. I don't know if it meets historical stand as far as technical, but I mean it's been there a long time. I agree, but it probably does not meet the definitions of historical. It's been around a while.

No, I understand. That doesn't mean it will follow and get a badge of historical branding from the state. Questions for anyone? Anybody else? [snorts] All right, we entertain a motion.

I have a second. I'll second. Okay. Is that the wrong Yeah, it's the wrong one. It's a zone 25- 003. Yeah, redo that. Okay, that's what I meant to say. I c Okay, with a correction now. Do we have a second? Yes.

All right, we have a second. Voting signs in favor. All in favor? Okay. Item 4.9. This is a public hearing for 7:46 p.m. We will open this public hearing for case number CA25-00003, removal of car wash from zoning use chart.

Honorable mayor, members of the city council, I promise I'm almost done with everything. Uh this is uh based on direction from city council received in November to pursue the removal of car washes and allowed use in the city of Josephine. So um if if this ordinance is adopted, no car washes would be permitted. There had been a concern say a grocery store comes in at a later time and wants to put a car wash, we could incorporate that as part of a PD or revisit adding the car wash as an allowed use in particular zoning districts. Anybody would like to speak? If not, I will close the public hearing at 7:47 p.m. All right, council. Is there any discussion or questions?

Um, I I do want to thank uh the ability to have this come forward. Um, I I I apologize that I am not that familiar with the process of how this works. Um because there are multiple businesses that I do not want in this city. I do not want vape shops. I do not want sex shops. I do not want adult bookstores. Um I want a restaurant that has more food than alcohol based on the permitting. Um not not a bar only. Um and I don't know how to proceed with that. Um well the uh the UDC process uh would be the ideal opportunity and it sounds like u what we could do as part of that workshop for next month we could bring the use chart and I can send the use chart and you can uh if you want to review it ahead of time and provide uh feedback on what are the uses that the council wants to reevaluate remove. This is an opportunity to add uses that maybe new code at the time didn't have. For example, like a site for drone deliveries that that was a challenge my previous community having to add that to the use chart. So um we will uh receive feedback from the council on what are those uses that are that are not uh I will say on the restaurant side um

I think that will be difficult to monitor and enforce in terms of um that's more of a TABC licensing matter than just staff like we just we we we have we could have regulations about auction sales in restaurants but Um, I I we could try to define it in a way and I'll have to collaborate with the city attorney on a way that we can stay within our scope of what we can regulate. But I I that is regulable because there already is there there's already state codes on that there there's a there's a code that allows restaurants as that as long as you serve more food than alcohol

and it Yeah. and that's a licensing type from the TABC. But as far as zoning, that I I'll have to confirm with the city attorney what we as a city can and cannot do. But we'll we'll take a look at that and bring that forward. Familyfriendly is desirable. Yes. Some of those will be far-fetched to achieve though. Sorry. Some of those will be farfetched to achieve and stay within legal. I mean, if you if you because you're like vapes, I mean, you're you're going to they sell marijuana paraphernelia and rolling papers. Understandable. But I'm saying like they sell it in the local stores, too. Water pipes.

So, you would have to take it out of the local stores also. I don't know that you could regulate that. Yeah, that that I think regulating peripheral sales would probably be more of a police [clears throat] department code enforcement matter. Now, that kind of falls outside my scope. I Zoning wise, yes, we could zone out vape shops and pro sex shops those types of uses. Yes, we can identify that zone those out. But as far as what happens inside, I don't have that authority. All right. Just to refer, did I I closed the public hearing already? Correct. Yes, you did. Okay. Yes, you did. We have any other questions? Do we have any other questions?

Do we have Do we have enough to make a motion to move forward on this item, the car wash? Okay. Now, I make a motion to approve case number CA25-003. You were one ahead. I'll second. All right. Voting signs in favor. All in favor. Okay. Item 4.10. This is discuss. Consider an act to adopt a resolution adopting the 2025 parks plus trails plan approved by the city council at the November 10th, 2025 city council meeting.

I I'll take this one so Miguel can rest for a moment. Um the master parks and trails plan was approved by council in November. Um at the city's attorney uh recommendation and because this is a formal plan uh and because this was 50% funded by a grant, uh we're recommending that we have a resolution just um to approve it formally. That way we can actually put this with the with the plan itself and show when exactly it was adopted by council and put into effect. So we did get a grant already for parks and trails.

It paid for half of the marks the plan the parks and trails plan. It was paid for half by calling county. Okay. So thank you for that. Um when we had it uh presented there was an indication that we have far fewer parks than other areas and that is standard. Um, and I did not recall seeing a remediation of how we're going to fix that.

That is one of the items that will be discussed in the focus groups and and in the UDC process. That is probably the area where I'm most concerned in terms of parkland dedication. Our our ordinance is requires just 5% of the land of any subdivision regardless of size. And and that's particularly concerning. Most cities are going towards a dwelling units per acre um and and some are using PDS to negotiate even greater percentages trading off higher density for larger pieces of land because that consumes less land overall with the higher density. So it it's a balancing act. Um but that is that is a major concern that was identified through this plan development process and the UDC is one of the that that is one of the things that the UDC will rectify

for future development. So the plan identified uh areas in town where it would be appropriate not specific locations but generally um throughout the city. So, as we look at the subdivision ordinance part of the UDC, uh we can consider things like is it more appropriate for one subdivision to maybe dedicate land versus um having them pay a fee for maybe a park that's going to be a little bit further down the road because it makes more sense

and and also one of the things that could be discussed at that time there there is alter like tradeoffs where you can do fee in lie of dedication but um one of the things that could be discussed and I don't want to deviate too much from this agenda item But um the dedication of parkland to the HOA so it's not a city liability. It's you still provide the the open space for the residents but it's not a city liability. So all of those things are addressed will will be addressed in the UDC. And um as far as this resolution, this is also a supporting document when we submit this to the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department. It isn't it it it helps cities score better when it comes to competitive grant applications.

So we have a plan but it's subject to change based on the UDC and future workshops. Well that's what the plan is somewhat for is to identify things that you need to correct. The plan is a guide of what are the things we need to address. The UDC is the tool that's going to help us address them. But the the UDC's focus will be to implement the plan. I mean, we're not creating plans to ignore them or not follow them. Our our my job and our goal is to implement them as close to what the plan calls out as as possible. Thank you. Mhm. Other questions for Miguel?

No. I make a motion to um approve the resolution to adopt the 2025 parks and trails plan. Do I have a second? I'll second. We have a second. Voting signs in favor. All in favor? Thank you. Okay. Item 4.11. Item 4.11, we need to be postponed until the February meeting because we don't have um

Yes, Mary, that would be preferable. We're still working with the contractor to come up with a way for um the city not to have to absorb this cost. If you could give us till February, I think we'll have a better plan. So, if I could just ask, we'll remove it from today, but you'll bring the plan back to us because I'd even like to see other biders, but I we're not supposed to be talking about it. So, um so it's on here because the the contractor requested a change order. Um this change the contractor. Yes. So, uh so we put it on here. Um, this is a it's a fumble.

I'll just be honest. It's a fumble and I I'll take responsibility for the fumble. Uh, typically we do have an engineer that's overseeing a project also administers a contract. We did not do that in this case. We were kind of Kimly Horn's responsibility ended once that contract was signed. Um, so at this point it's it's up to staff to kind of monitor those expenses. I signed off on a pay app seeing that there were trees involved and knowing that there were trees in the scope. I did not realize the extent of additional trees that were involved until after uh this was paid. The following month it was caught. Uh thank you Melissa. And we withheld uh that amount of money from the next pay app. So the contractors on board with us kind of trying to work this out, but essentially they pulled down trees before they had permission to pull down trees. So they were supposed to do a written change order that should have come to council first before any action happened out in the field. Um we don't have people that just sit there and watch them all day long. So and it happened very very quickly. So, one day they were talking about additional tree removal and then just very shortly after that the trees disappeared and then we're we're getting um um this kind of what we thought was pretty insane amount of trees removed and a price to go with it and they charged us per tree the same price that was in the contract originally. So, I think it was 1,500 a tree. Um so, I think we have some things to work out here. I think one, the contractor has some responsibility because he did not get the proper approvals. And two, I think there are some things that we can work through with our engineer to see if there are some cost savings that maybe the city can do, some things we might be able to alter that would help make up the difference. Um, so we want to work on those for the next month

and then bring it to the next council meeting. Okay. He he also mentioned too, and this not on the agenda exactly, but it's part of the same topic. Um he mentioned some additional earth work that might be necessary and and so Kirk and I have already told him that we need to chat a conditional what some additional earth work that might be needed that is not in the scope as well. So we need to sit with this contractor and have a heart-to-he heart

chat because this was not there was no budget on this and this was a grant-f funded project. Um part of it was funded by Colin County the other part was funded by an agreement with CISD. So, we had no city budget. Uh, one of the issues, too, and I don't know why it's not in there, is typically there would be contingency and there was no contingency for this project. So, I'm not sure why, but for whatever reason, it was not built into that. So, normally if we had an issue, we could maybe look at those contingency funds and there aren't any here. So, we're going to work with a contractor. We will bring you some kind of proposed solution back next month. Okay.

All right. So, that item will be on next month's agenda. All right, moving on to item [snorts and sighs] 4.12. Discuss consider an act to set a date and establish possible agenda items for city council staff strategic planning session.

Yes, council. We've talked previously about we would like to have um more planning sessions with you. Uh we were talking a little bit today that maybe quarterly would would be about right. Uh we're open to other ideas as well. uh before we plan one one we'd like to kind of at least pinpoint possible dates and the other thing is we would like to um if you're up for doing it this way we would like to perhaps send you a survey of sorts to determine what your priorities are what you'd like to talk about we probably won't be able to tackle everything on one agenda and I'm thinking about a half day might be all that we can reasonably tolerate so we're thinking um a Monday during the day and of course it would be broadcast and recorded or a Saturday. Um, just because we think maybe it would be about a half day, you know, four hours. I don't know that you want to do that in the evening. Um, so those are our thoughts and and we're just here to kind of get your thoughts on how you might want to go about doing that. So, we know we need to talk about budget a little bit as we even though we're only a quarter into this fiscal year, we we already start having to look at, you know, what that first quarter looked like and as we're going into the next quarter, we start looking at the next budget year already. Um, and then there are other things too that um, you know, bigger projects, uh, near-term goals and longer term goals that we kind of like make sure we're all on the same page with and we're moving forward, you know, as a group.

I would like to set the date tonight and then we can send our topics or do the survey between now and then. That would be my recommendation. Council, we were looking at March. That'll give us ample time to prepare once we get your and I'm thinking probably I I mean some people are up here maybe retired but Mondays are okay for me but it's not okay for every other working person. So I think Saturdays are probably more unless the entire council is good with a Monday. I think Saturday is probably more realistic. That's fine. Staff's able to accommodate that. Yeah. Yeah. No, Mondays are a struggle for me for work.

Yeah. I just knew the mayor had that that's typically his day off, so that's why it was mentioned, but um I wasn't sure what the rest of your Yeah, if that's what you call schedules look like. If we're looking at March, I could probably do a Monday, but I didn't bring my calendar tonight. Um so it sounds like the group wants most of the group wants to do Saturday. And I'll be honest, I don't know when when my son comes in for spring break from college, but if we schedule it now and it happens to be then, Oh, spring break. No, we can't miss that. Oh, road trip. March 7th. We just do March 7th because I think the spring breaks are usually the second and third weeks. Yeah, right. I don't know when. March 7th. Yeah,

Saturday. I have an all day meeting that day. Well, but you guys can continue without me. That's fine. We'd rather not. Yeah. To the end of the month. We'll try to make sure everybody's involved. That way, everybody's there except for Alex. He's not here. We could look at the 28th of February if you want to push it that direction. That would be better for me. I'm good. That's a Saturday, right? Mhm. Okay. Saturday. Text myself on this. We're checking early voting and I'll just just one second. [clears throat] Well, early voting. Shouldn't that be done over at the city? Oh, you guys aren't going to use

early voting starts at 17. That's a whole another topic. Yeah, that's [laughter] a whole another topic. We've got 16 events planned over there that day. So, we may [laughter] actually have to shift the primary heroes for this one. Oh, gotcha. 28th is fine. Does it work for everybody else or no? Yes, no for the voting schedule. Great. It's the seventh. Can we Can we meet at hands on the 27th? That should be stupid thought. No. Isn't there a conference room in the building next door? No. At the police station and fire department.

There is. It might be difficult for the public to to come over there you for work session. Yeah. Meet in the bay. It's still cold. [laughter] That won't stay long. Okay, we can make the 28th work. Okay. Okay. So, we're doing the 28th. What time can we start? If we can start at 11, that'd be good. If it has to be earlier, let me know. If we could start later, that would be better for me. Later as in what? What do you mean later? Like 11 12. After 12.

Yeah. Like it would take me 10 minutes to get here after 12. [laughter] So 1210. Yeah, that's good. [laughter] Cuz I don't want to be up there until Saturday afternoon. That's my only thing. I could probably get um my early morning appointment moved up a little and then I could be here by 12. Yeah, cuz I have a 9:30, but I can change it. Yeah. So you're looking approximately 12 to 4. Yeah, that'd be awesome.

Thank you everybody. Thank you. And uh we'll be sending you something to kind of get your thoughts on a few things so we can pull together that agenda. You set up about four hours. [sighs] About four hours. That's what we're anticipating. We we can bring snacks if we need to over sustenance. I always have snacks. We can do I mean we can get it done quick if we just stay on topic and Yep. I agree. Let's do that. All right. Next item. You say 11

4.13. This discuss and possible direction to staff regarding a revision to the street naming policy in the subdivision ordinance. Can we move on? Can we get an official motion for the motion proposed date and time for this? Well, I guess I'll make a motion for February 28th from noon to 4 for a planning session for the between the city and the city council. Second. Voting signs in favor. All in favor. All right. Back to motion to the next item 413.

Uh mayor council, I'm going to let Dr. Sardo explained most of this, [clears throat] but um she has proposed um and council approved putting it on the agenda. Um discussion about city council being involved in the street naming process. Um and she she has put a suggestion in your packet. Um I didn't pull together an you know an ordinance or anything like that because I just we need to get your thoughts. Um we're happy to have council's involvement. It does also involve uh 911 and the post office um developer um and there's kind of a lengthy process so isn't just as simple as you know checkboxing off about names. Uh we did have one thought and that was instead of English only maybe English alphabet letters that would save the opportunity for say if you had say an an Italian um villa themed subdivision or a Spanish themed one. Um typically those letters would still be in English and then numerals 0 through nine and standard punctuation. So that was just a thought but I'll let you all um discuss that.

Okay. So thank you very much. Um as you remember the proclamation passed months ago. The uh street naming ordinance did not. Um we've had a street naming ordinance in our books on 5.4 in our city of Josephine ordinances since about 2015 or earlier based on the records that I pulled. All I did was add um four little seg check uh little phrases is all I added. Um that it does say um submitted to city for staff and city council review and approval. So there could be a process for exceptions and um Trump did name English as our official language in the United States and to reflect traditional western civilization uh for law, liberty, ci civic virtue and the principles of the constitution. Um, it's simply to I did not put this in here, but it's to avoid names in other languages of people that may want to um disagree or worse. Um, so all I did was add four little phrases. It's in your packet. I can pass my computer down if you'd like to take a look at it.

I've already seen it. Do you want to read it or

Yes, I'll be I'll read what I added. Street names within the city and within the extr territorial jurisdiction must be submitted to the city for staff and council review and approval. Those are phrases that I added to the current wording. B. All street names shall be in English and reflect the traditional western civilization values including respect for law, liberty, civic virtue and principles of the constitution. Everything else is is still as it was. Surnames are okay. numbers. Um, and yes, I understand 911. I don't think 911's going to be an issue or anything else or the post office because this ordinance has already been in place. Um, and I

what is Western civilization values like and then the respect for law? I don't if you want to eliminate western civilization and keep US constitution, I would be happy to have that amendment. So what would the English though what we were what she said how would that not serve the purpose of what you're trying to accomplish? So I don't there are streets currently named in other cities near us that are

because I'm all about American values. I'll be real clear. I'm all about American values. you know, this country is built on Christianity and all that, but I don't want to look like a racist and I don't want to look like uh, you know, I don't we were born on letting people have freedom of religion, too. I don't I don't want to I don't want people to p perceive Josephine in a well, they're a racistly run town with the city council. I don't

but the western values is just I don't understand. Okay, then let's eliminate that and say all street names shall be in English and respect the principles of the US Constitution and make it super short. Can you define that what that means? Because when I looked at the Constitution, I didn't see anything in there about street names. No, the Constitution is not about street names, but it's about life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and it's also about So, so based upon that, Pam, there's nothing that you can come up with that would prevent anybody to bring any name in any style based upon that. All I'm trying to do is prevent But I I'm so I'm trying to understand

I understand what you're trying to I mean, I I I truly understand you don't want names in other languages or whatever they may be or or regarding to some other religious leader name whatever you know I understand all that and I think that adjustment that you talked about accomplishes that you know I don't want to be driving down the road and not be able to read a stop sign or a street sign either I get it but you know I don't also don't want [laughter] if I had a vote I would not vote for the way that's written that's just me

and I'm happy to shorten it even further leave a the way it is. Leave be all street names will be in English. Can Can we actually add that we add the Arabic numerals? Roman numerals. Arabic numerals 1 0 through 10 are following. Absolutely. Okay. Cuz yeah, I just want to make sure that we're getting it. And I I think you actually um sorry when I'm pointing um Lisa, I think you actually said using standard punctuation with um the Arabic numerals, right? So it was the English alphabet and the Arabic numerals which are 0ero through nine, right?

Um and standard punctuation such as hyphens or apostrophes. Okay. The the only thing about the English alphabet and not the English language is that there are streets in Dallas and Irving named for people who have killed westerners, seduced people. It says that proper names are not authorized without city council approval. Okay, proper names. This Okay. There's also streets named after individuals who don't like monotheism. So, I mean, I'm I'm all for the word peace street. I just don't want any

typically when a develop like dear when they come in, if you go find the other subdivisions that they've done, most of their subdivisions that they've done elsewhere, they all have the same street names. So, typically the developer has a theme, a theme of what they're going to do. Okay. How about the the words will be in the English language, not English letters, English language. Very simple. Well, then we can't use Kat Street. Yeah, we can. No, it's a it's an American Indian name from the Kado Indians. American. That's not That's not English. That's Cado. Well, there's also Caesar Chevz Street, but I don't have a problem with that.

But that's what I'm saying. I I from And I'm thinking about the city employees now, right? How do they know where the where the draw the line? It's where's the definition for that? That's what the way I worded it. I had three attorneys look at it. I don't care. This is our city. That's right. That's right. It is. It is. So, I don't care about other attorneys. I'm talking about our city.

All right. And I don't and I share the same thing. I I am a United States Naval veteran. I am all about this country and the Constitution and everything else. I share that the same values you do. And I share the whole Constitution aspect of this using the English language. Of course, we're using the English language, but we want to define what goes on the sign, not what we're putting names wise. What's going on the sign? The English letters and the Arabic numerals. That's what we want on there.

Okay. the the the the point that you're asking for is you need to define what you're looking for then because this right now it's too broad just the cat Indian aspect of it alone what are you going to say is good and what is bad I don't know how the city's going to make that determination this was the same argument that I that I was trying to propose earlier to you when we were trying to work through this where you make that demarcation point so it's clear and we would have to make it pretty clear, I think, in the subdivision ordinance because as was mentioned, um, these developers look years in advance and for instance, you know, Magnolia's full of kind of cowboy sounding streets.

So, if they went all the way through the process and then, you know, the the final plat was approved and we decided that we hated half of the names or weren't going to like them or they weren't here, um, they would not be happy with us. So, I think having it as clear as we can in the subdivision code, there's a fair point there. So they they've got ample notice of dos and don'ts, right? And I'm not opposed to what you're saying. I just I just want it defined. What are we defining? So there it's clear. That's all I'm asking for. Trump said English is the official language. [clears throat] Again, Trump sits at the top of the pyramid. Well, we're city government. This is where we can make the most impact for our citizens is right here and right now. That's the reason that I'm sitting on this board today is to make impact for our city.

Please don't get mad at me. I am not. And I am not. focus to make sure we're doing the right for our citizens and what our citizens require. Are we just a couple of examples real quick and and I'm I'm just throwing it out there just for consideration for everybody. I'm not really pushing one way or the other, but uh where I came from, there was a community called Sonoma Verde, every name was in Italian. Um Valencia and all kinds of u tuskany kind of sounding names. See Logos is a community I believe in Lucas. Um, they all have kind of Spanish sounding names. Um, you've been to Monster, Texas. Yes, I have. It's German. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, I've been to Monster.

Those are kind of the quirks I I think may come up. And I would hate those ones I mentioned in um where I came from. Those are $750,000 homes. And then Fate has a community that is also kind of an Italian theme, a brand new one that is also mostly Italian named streets. So what do we got? I mean uh the changes that you were agreeing to Pam, what what what did you say on the

if you want to shrink B to say all names will be in English or or How about you just say all streets will be will adhere to the principles of the constitution. That's all I can request. Leave out the English. If you put that Pam, you literally can put it in anything you want because life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is the very first statement of that. So that means your free will to do whatever you want at that point in time. Not if it harms the United States. How does that harm the United States for a name? I just gave you three examples. No, you you gave us some hypothetical examples. I did not. There you can I'll show them to you on the map. I'll show you my seven pages of names that I've researched. So then make those names illegal.

Can you scroll down on that a little bit for Everything else is as it was anything else. You might you might want to listen to Patty's been doing this for years. So she may want to it might help if she describes the process for addressing if you don't mind. before they submit plats, preliminary plats, they send a list of names. I have the names in the same zip code that would conflict with Nevada. We have a couple of them.

Um, they go through once those names, we go through make sure there's no duplicates. I've never had any name that was a problem. If I came across that, I could ask the council, but going through with the list, send um putting it on an agenda for council to look at, going through 911, all of that. That's going to be a pro a longer process. You don't have to put anything in front of city c in front of the post office or anybody else. All it says is

well I'm saying that's what we normally once but when they first send it in are these names approved? I look to make sure that's not a duplicate or confusing. And if it's not, we we say yes, you can use these street names. And and if it's a name that you don't know what it means, well, absolutely. I would then what if it's a name? I I've never had one, but if I did, I would all I would defer to I would start with Lisa. What do you want me to do? But but Lisa's not going to know a foreign name. I will realize it took me hours to look it up.

Well, I I would if it was something that I had no idea what it meant, I would look it up. I wouldn't just say, "Oh, yeah, that's fine." If I [snorts] may offer some guess clarification and context from my perspective as well, my previous communities, um, the USPS has started clamping down on confusing names or names that are difficult to pronounce, particularly people with speech impediments. Um so I guess those are terms that you know regardless of the meaning I think the the the subject matter here is more names that you know can be clearly pronounced clearly spelled and and written uh not a matter of you know having to identify me uh meanings. I mean that just adds more and I'm not saying I'm doing it right now but it would add more to the process and frankly speaking from as a professional it's a slippery slope that you know I'm speaking from a my professional perspective it's not a slippery slope I'm willing to get on you know or or or the staff that handles handles this I I see the purpose behind but again there there are, you know, from a experience perspective, we know and Patty and I just from people who have worked in this, we know that, okay, this name just doesn't make sense. You know, we have to be subjective and and we try to to ensure that there's alignment in names, that there's a common theme, that there's no conflicts, but primarily my angle, at least when I review names, is to make sure that these are names that can be clearly pronounced. If somebody calls frantically 911, and I'm sure chiefs, both chiefs can attest to this dispatch. You want names that can be clearly pronounced by people with

accents by people, you know, from from Mexico or Italy or France or or India, you you name it. So, you know, I I think this is I think this needs to be tabled to the next meeting unless council has a consensus on how they want this worded. I want to sit here talk about this one item. Patty and I can discuss emulating policies from other municipalities that could we believe may address the concerns that are being presented tonight and we could bring that next month. We could put it on the work session agenda if you'd like. I'm good with that.

So we're going to table this I mean to the work session. How when it f Yeah. You're just y'all good with that. The 28 to be on the work session. Sure. I'm looking for a consensus from council. I'm good. I'm good with that. Okay. Sound like a motion. has motion the table till the direction just direction the motion and direction. You got that?

Yes, sir. Okay. I see where I'm at. Okay. Item 4.14. this discuss and possible direction to staff regarding the FEMA flood plane map revision process as requested by um council.

So um I did talk to FEMA a little bit. I I read through the information on their website. Um they had confirmed what I had actually asked a couple of years back that redoing FEMA is not on their own accord going to redo our blood flood maps for our entire city. Uh, very rarely does that happen anywhere. I'm sorry, Lisa. My I'm having a problem hearing

I'm sorry. I'll get closer to the mic. So, I had a co a conversation with FEMA a couple of years back about um updating the flood maps and they they confirmed this past week that they're not on their own accord on their initiative going to redo all of the city's flood maps. Um what typically happens is um a development wants to come in. If it's going to have impact, a flood study will be done. Um that will be passed on to the city. Um and Jacob, if I get it wrong, let me know. Um once that's approved, you know, we've looked at it here, our engineers, our flood plane administrator. Once something is built, then those asbuilt plans get put uh sent back to FEMA once we've approved them. And then that will create like a letter of map revision and it'll alter one little piece of the flood plane map. So if you look on our the flood plane maps, you can see areas where um their numbers, you know, when things have changed. So typically these just get done in pieces rather than an entire city. Um I did get some information. FEMA directed me to the Texas Water Development Board and they work with the flood insurance people and they do have a cooperating technical partnership. Um I'm still trying to set up a call to see what's um can be done there, but so far they've just sent me some documents that are about 45 pages long and they're just to their suggestion was to make sure that our flood plane ordinance was as tight as it could be, which could be part of the UDC as we update it. Um I need to compare side by side what we currently have on the books as far as flood plane ordinance and what they've sent me. It may be exactly the same thing. Um, but that would be the next step. So, I can continue to do a little bit of research and I do want to talk to these individuals they recommended me to talk to. Um, but FEMA is not going to do it

on their own accord. I think if we wanted to initiate it as a city, we'd be looking at probably getting a consultant engineer to to do a study of the entire city. And if you want to do that, then I I guess we can look at it. I I think it would be wicked expensive. They also told me it would take years for the that updating process to happen online. So one reason I brought this forward this was my idea um there and Doug August 28 or I'm sorry August 11th meeting gave a very good example of his mom's place was not in the flood plane in 2001 but the last meeting it was so growing [clears throat] building and I've sent you the documentation that I found online building up above the base elevation level does affect properties down the road and it will affect people downstream. I'm downstream. We've already had this discussion and to do a whole city flood map. I think it bears it bears something looking into. It's very costly as she stated and two if they're doing it correctly and they're building up upstream, it's not going to push you in the flood plane downstream. T

typically we have um our engineers look at that and if you know as we things are built up and out of the flood plane um you'll see retention ponds and there'll be you know um some calculations that engineers will do to make sure that water is not running uh faster or increased volume you know onto those those other properties. Jacob could probably explain you can only control what they're doing in your city too. have seen. So if they're doing it in in the in the county or or way out and that's a little you know that's a little more different

in our city right here in Murray to Berry to Berry one of those ponds over there just kept getting bigger and bigger because the initial engineering wasn't right. It's it's okay now. We hope if the engineering is okay with what's done in the pit, maybe there won't be flooding coming down into the city. Some of these houses are the city halls built up. Those houses over there on Swanson aren't built up. And if things aren't working right in the city, they could be flooded again. I just thought it was worth trying to get a flood map earlier than 2009 on this side of the city and earlier than 2012 on my side. The reason that Hunt County side was done is because my neighbor in back of me got flooded and that was 2012. My property takes on more water. It's taken on more water since we've added development in the city.

Yeah. Okay. So trying to be solutiondriven if we can't if if FEMA maps are too expensive, is there another option? Because number one, 500 acres of North Texas Municipal Water District Monofill is coming. More developments and concrete are coming. We have five we have the Cooks Lakes North of us. We have five streams and and water um water areas that are coming towards Lake Tokany eventually. We have our wastewater plant that's going to discharge. We have 12 muds. Most of them want a lot of them want their own wastewater treatment which is going to discharge water. So, I agree that we've got to address it because we're lowlying in multiple areas and that's why we have storm water protection plants and everything else. Is there another solution? Is there another [clears throat] way?

Private engineering like using an engineer. Well, the other concern too is if you know, even if we got Josephine's maps just right, what's to say that upstream water coming this direction is, you know, their calculations are right. I don't know that you're going to get a a perfect map. I mean, if you want me to pursue it, I'm I can do that, but and the map's not going to include all the ex, you know, the extraterrestrial stuff. [laughter] So, it's it's strictly going to FEMA FEMA does calculate that, but ours won't.

I think it would be reasonable to kind of look at the model ordinances that they sent me today to see if ours look tight enough to start with and then if if they are or aren't, I can report that back to you. I should be able to get through that before the next meeting and then maybe we take a next step after that. I didn't get the information till Friday, so I haven't had a chance to read through and then I look at it side by side with our ordinances. Ours may be perfectly up to date, but I need to look at what they sent me versus what we have and then probably get Kirk's opinion and maybe even one of our engineers to look at it.

And it wouldn't really be something I mean wouldn't have to be done right now because I know we don't do everything right now, but it's something that could be worked into a budget next year. It just is something that probably needs to be addressed. I remember the horror stories in Houston. It it can happen. I just think if we were proactive, it would show that we were proactive. Maybe fewer people would have to pay flood insurance on top of their mortgage insurance, on top of their paid fees, on top of their I've had flood insurance at my house even though I'm not. So, we're going to direct staff to to just to look at options

to look at see if that matches and start trying to look at options and do a little more homework. That would be great. Thank you. I think it would be too. Thank you. Okay, next item 4.15. I think we move this one to our working session as well. Yeah, I agree. Council any else here? Everybody? Good. Okay, so 4.15 we're going to move to the work session February 28th. Thank you. Okay. The uh do we need a motion?

It's it's just direction, right? Is that okay? A motion to move it to the work session. I make a motion to move uh 4.15 to the February 28th work session. Second. Voting signs in favor to move it where? To the work session. To the work session. Okay. All in favor? Okay. I favor. All right. Get in the hearing.

Good evening, fire chief. Thank you. Thank you, mayor. Thank you, council. Well, um here just I think a little over 90 days. It's been very busy uh on the transition and we wanted to give you a little update. Um we are regulated under the Texas Commission on Fire Protection, uh which lays out a lot of stuff that we have to do. So, some of it is, uh makes it easy because it lays out a map. some of it is uh tedious because there's just tremendous amount of uh policies that we have to catch up on and regulations. So, we've done uh quite a bit of stuff already. Um as far as compliance, uh we have uh tested our hose, we have inspected our gear, we have cleaned the gear, um we have done our fit testing with SCBA. uh just a lot of things like that that uh bring us into compliance uh with the Texas Commission. And then they have about several pages I it's about six pages worth of uh things that they will regularly routinely inspect us on. So we're going through that. We're in the process of going through that and trying to get those type of things lined up uh as we speak. So um all on the personnel side, all our volunteer members have completed city applications. They have done their physicals. They've done drug screening and background checks. So, we've been able to everyone who wanted to come over with us has come over with us, which is fantastic. Uh we have uh hired the initial four full-time employees and we are now uh have at least one person on 24 hours a day. So, we're excited about that.

And then uh as you know, I think most of you who have moved into our new facility, which is just fantastic. Um there's a lot to do still yet. Uh but it is working great and uh we are just uh finding our new normal and working out our schedules and um just just getting into the routine of being at the new place. So so far those are the the major accomplishments of our transition. uh still have a lot to do as far as I said uh our compliance list, but uh I don't see any immediate problems as of right now. So,

did you say four full-time and then how many of the part- timerrs came over? We have what did we say 18 on the roster on the volunteer? 18 included. Yes. 17. 17. Bob retired. Yep. Bob retired. I'm cited. Bob retired. They're they're stopping paid. Correct, Chief. Although he came by today. Yes, they are stopping paid. So, correct. Stopping paid the volunteers. Stipen. That's correct. I don't have any questions. I just want to say yes. Thank you. Thank you for doing a great job. Thank for everything y'all are doing. We appreciate y'all. We know it's a lot of work getting it going. So,

Sure. Go ahead. Um, did you find out if a preferred candidate has filed for the emergency services board that you would feel comfortable with, has a clue about this area, the county, cares about this area, the county that might be able to? Have I found out about? Yeah. Do you know anybody that applied? I don't. I know some I know one name that's been recommended that I know um but I don't know we are waiting on this [snorts]

anxiously uh but I have not heard anything. So I did attend the committee meeting got myself on the committee for the ESD. Oh good. So, uh, so we sat in there and listened to everything that the county the county administrator came and talked and, uh, but they're waiting on. It's supposed to be right about now. They're supposed to name the names. So, I don't know where we are in the process. I do have a Colin County Fire Chiefs meeting on Thursday. We'll see if we get any updates then. Okay. My next question is, you've got new personnel that are on board. Mhm. Um what is happening with your equipment request which because the halfway of the budget is in March

halfway through [clears throat] the year. So um have you has it been too soon or do you have thoughts about what new vehicles you need for example? Um, not really. He have so far as far as equipment and, you know, heavy equipment. Um, I think, you know, we have enough to satisfy what we're doing. I think we're going to have some needs in the future, but I don't think I'm going to address them this quickly. Probably not even in the next budget to be honest with you. We do have an issue with a brush truck uh because we have a grant and we have to decide whether we have to get a pickup truck to resolve that. And I think we'll work that issue out. Um I think we're going to have to um on the long term, you know, my concern will be um training. Um my concern will be proper uniforms, bunker gear. Uh some of the state regulations. Uh some of these things time out. Um because that's the way the laws are written now. Like our SCPA, you can only there's just a fixed amount a year. gets 10 uh and then you have to replace it. So I think our biggest issue is going to be the long-term uh how do we face with all these things these constant costs that come at us. Uh and that's really what's going to be my next concentration is to try to work with Melissa on some of these long-term um you know expenses that we're just going to have that are built in that we have no control over. Are you working with the county yet regarding mutual aid or is that

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. This side of the you know this side I'll say of the county really of the lake you know it it's right now it's Leavonne us and Farmersville taking the brunt of it. Of course we have Nevada they are good partners. Um we we are we are covering a lot [laughter] but we are working together. We have a I have a very close relationship with Chief Massie and then uh Chief Anthony and Leavonne. Uh we meet a lot for lunch and discuss what we can do to help each other out. So, and uh I've just now started to establish uh with Chief Wilson over in Nevada as well. So,

my last question is um emergency train emergency services training um is that going to be like six months from now, a year from now is that going to be one of your roles or not yet determined. Uh are you talking in reference to there's a state code 455 I think that says that somebody supposed to train us every year. Oh, okay. As far as like emergency management in that regard. Yeah, that will fall on my shoulders. Yeah. So, you'll just let us know when we're ready. Yeah, absolutely. I appreciate it. That's all you got. Thank you for everything.

Good. Does anyone have any questions? No. Thank you. All right. At this time, we will adjourn the regular meeting and go into uh executive session at 8:41 p.m. Pursuant to Texas Government Code section 551.071. We'll consult with the city attorney with the city council meet in executive session. So, can I go to the bathroom

Okay, we've recon we have adjourned executive session at 9:39 p.m. and reconvert reconvened regular meeting. No action from executive session. So item 8.1, there's no action. We'll move on to 8.2. Council, do you have anything you want to discuss or try to add to the future agenda? Oh, man. If you do, just email it to me and we'll put it on there. I make a motion to adjourn. We have a second.

Voting signs in favor. This meeting's adjourned. He looks disappointed.