Finance & Administration Council Committee - Regular Meeting

Yeah. Alright, it's 04:00. We'll call today's Finance Administration Council Committee meeting to order. Please record your attendance. Present, we do have a quorum. Next up is approval of minutes from the Friday, 12/05/2025 special meeting and the Tuesday, 12/09/2025 meeting.

Move to approve both sets unless there's no to change.

Motion second. Any question or comments on the minutes as presented? If not, please record your vote on whether or to approve the minutes.

I'll have to do each one separately.

Okay, that's fine. The first vote will be to approve the December 5 meeting. Minutes? Yeah, he got it. Okay.

Alright, the next vote will be on the December 9 meeting. We'll move into new business. There's a lot of municipal lanes on the agenda, so I'll just read those by title only. First up, resolution 25,202, resolution by the city council, city of Jones, Arkansas to place municipal lane on property located at 1617 Rich Road, Partial 01 Dash 143252 Dash 25000 owned by Randolph and Judith Reynolds in the amount of $275

I look forward to full council. Second.

I'm saying before full council, any questions or comments from anybody in chambers? If not, please record your vote on whether or to approve resolution 20 five-two zero two. Resolution 25,203, resolution by city council of the city of Jonesboro, Arkansas to place municipal lane on property located at 2009 Timber Ridge Drive, Partial 01 Dash 143231 Dash 17200. Owned by Brian D. Modsheen in the amount of $275

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Motion seconded for the full council. Any questions or comments regarding this resolution? Any recommendations on how she read the partial numbers? Comments, please record your vote on whether or to approve resolution or to send resolution twenty five two zero three to full council. I hear you.

I know. Scattered. Alright, resolution twenty five two zero four, resolution by city council of the city of Johnsonburg, Arkansas Place Municipal Lane on property located at 3104 Parkwood, Partial 01 Dash 144281 Dash 23800 owned by Michael R. And Sandra Bigler in the amount of $275

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forward to full council. Second.

Motion seconded forward to full council. Any questions or comments regarding this agenda item from anybody? If not, please record your vote on whether or to forward 20 five-two zero four to full council. Resolution 25,205, resolution by city council, city of Johnson, Arkansas, to place municipal property located at zero one dash one hundred forty four zero eighty two dash zero five zero two zero on Granger Partial 01 Dash 144082 Dash 05020 owned by Jerry Delaney in the amount of $275

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Most second forward to full council. Any questions or comments on this item? Not, please record your vote on whether or not to forward to full council. Resolution 25206. Resolution by the city council, city of Johnson, Arkansas, place municipal lien on property located at 1400 Marywood, Partial 01 Dash 144203 Dash 16200 owned by Tonya R. Heinz, the amount of $315

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I'm saying forward to full council. Any questions or comments on resolution 25,206? If not, please record your vote on whether or to forward to full council. Resolution 25,207, resolution by city council, city of Johnsonburg, Arkansas, placed municipally on property located at 2410 West Acre, Partial 01 Dash 144272 Dash 22100 owned by Moore Units Real LLC in the amount of $315.

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Motion to second, forward to full council. Any questions or comments on this agenda item? If not, please record your vote on whether or not to forward it to full council. Resolution 25,208. Resolution by the City Council of City of Johnsonburg, Arkansas Place Municipal Lane on property located at 3806 School Street, Partial One-one Hundred 40 Four-two 70 Two-sixteen Thousand 500, owned by Oglala Hernandez in the amount of $275

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Motion seconded for council. Any questions or comments on this item? If not, please record your vote on whether or not to forward to full council. Resolution 25,209, resolution by the city council of the City of Johnsonburg, Arkansas, to place municipal land on property located at 200 West Woodrow, Parcel One-one Hundred 4470 Three-twenty 3600 owned by Prince Michael Bobbitt and Donya in the amount of $965.

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Motion second for full council. Any question or comments on this item? Please record your vote on whether or to forward it to full council. Resolution 25 to 10, resolution by city council of the City of Johnsonville, Arkansas, placed municipal lane on property located at 1317 Half Code, Partial 01 Dash 143121 Dash 048000, owned by Joseph Clark and Helena Sykes in the amount of $275.

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Second. Second. Second. It to full council. Second. Resolution 20 five-eleven, resolution by the city council of City Of Johnsonville, Arkansas to place municipal lien on property located at 2612 Crawford, Parcels One-one 40 Four-two 70 Three-two Thousand 300 by Randy and Ali Crawford, the amount of $275

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to full council. Second.

We're setting forward to full council. Any questions or comments on this item? If not, please record your vote on whether or to forward resolution 25 to 11 to full council. Resolution 25 to 12, resolution by the city council of the city of Johnsonburg, Arkansas to place municipal lane on property located at 2020 Loteret Drive, Partial 01 Dash 144321 Dash 8500 owned by professional communication services of Jonesboro in amount of $465.

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I was just saying before full council, any questions or comments on this agenda item? Seeing none, please record your vote on whether or not to forward it to full council. Resolution twenty five two thirteen. Resolution by the city council of the city of Johnsonburg, Arkansas to face municipal lien on property located at 2701 Kurt View, Partial One-one Hundred 44002 And 70 Three-four Thousand 400 owned by Jesse and James Harrell in the amount of $275

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I'm saying before to full council, any questions or comments on this agenda item? Seeing none, please record your vote on whether or not to forward it to full council. Resolution 20 5214, resolution by city council of the city of Johnsonburg, Arkansas to place municipal lien on property located at 1821 Brookhaven, Partial One-one Hundred 40 Three-two 40 Three-four Thousand 700 on by Regents Bank DBA Regents Mortgage in the amount of $275

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Motion seconded for the full council. Any questions or comments on this agenda item? Seeing none, please record your vote on whether or not to forward it to full council. Alright, and our last municipal lien is resolution 25,215, resolution by the city council of the city of Jonesboro, Arkansas to place municipal lien on property located at 3707 Ashley Cove, Partial One-one Hundred 30 Four-thirty Two-six Thousand 600 owned by Scott Woods in the amount of $275

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Motion seconded forward to full council. Any questions or comments on this item? If not, please record your vote on whether or to forward to full council. Alright, the next resolution I will read in its entirety, which I know makes you all very happy. Resolution twenty five two one seven, resolution of the city of Johnson, Arkansas authorizing the mayor to enter into an agreement with Axon Incorporated for a prepared assist communication services for Jonesboro emergency services, whereas the city of Jonesboro, Arkansas and Axon Incorporated desire to enter into an agreement for Axon Incorporated to provide prepared and assist communication services to aid dispatch in handling calls and radio traffic and to ensure quality and consistency in the protocols and information provided in calls.

In addition, this product will perform translation services to aid dispatch in providing real time assistance for persons for whom English is not their first language and will transcribe the conversations in real time for the dispatchers to better understand the emergency and whereas that agreement is attached hereto and terms set out therein. Now therefore be it resolved by the City Council for the City Of Jonesboro, Arkansas that number one, the City of Jonesboro approves the agreement with Axon Incorporated to provide assist communication services for Jonesboro Emergency Services, that the term of the agreement shall be for a period of three years and the payment to Axon Incorporated shall be $211,505 for the first year and $199,665 for the two subsequent years. Other details of the agreement, the scope of services to be provided are set out in the attachment. Number two, that the agreement has already been approved by the Craighead County nine eleven Board. Three, that there is no requirement to bid this agreement because Axon Incorporated is on the NASBO state contract list.

Number four, the mayor Harold Copenhagen and city clerk April Leggett are hereby authorized by the city council for the city of Jonesboro to execute all documents necessary to effectuate this agreement.

Move forward to full council. Second.

Motion second to forward to full council and I would like the record to reflect that Doctor. Anthony Coleman is now present. Any questions or comments regarding this resolution?

The only question I have, Mr. Chairman, was just trying to get some clarity on, I'm not in this line of work. The translation is a feature and then also just trying to understand just handling calls and radio traffic to ensure quality consistency. Can you just touch on a little bit about how that how it's different from now? Mean, obviously translation piece but other than that.

Absolutely. Thank you so much Doctor. Mean I'm sorry Mr. You can call me Doctor. McClain.

Don't give him a big head.

Come on man.

Come on back Counselor McClain.

This is technology, AI technology that I'll be honest with you up until last year didn't exist. What it's going to do is handle all of our incoming non emergency calls. It will take those calls. It will determine number one if those calls need to be rerouted to a different department or agency and it will automatically reroute those calls. If it needs to go to the 911 dispatcher, some of the nonemergency, what we call nonemergency calls that come in do translate into emergency calls, okay.

They're actually 911 calls and should be transferred to them. So it will take those calls and route those straight to the dispatcher. This does not, it's not handling the 911 calls. It does not take those calls and reroute those. Those are still answered by a live 911 dispatcher.

We receive, I can't remember the exact numbers, approximately 90 something thousand non emergency calls. And what this does are those calls are overwhelming our nine one one dispatchers to the point that they have to answer those calls and sometimes it's calls just I need this rerouted or I need to know about a warrant I have or I need to talk to the jail. It's gonna automatically take those calls. The dispatcher will never even hear those. It will answer a 100% of those calls.

We currently use a call tree, an automated answering system that if you wanna talk to the county jail press that question. Think

question? Talk to a 911 dispatcher. And

that's they say, well, we need to talk to the county jail and then our dispatcher has to handle that. What it's doing is taking those non emergency calls and tying up dispatchers that should be handling emergency calls. That is one segment of it. That's just one feature that they provide. That's the, what we call the call taking assistive side of it.

There's other day just to see how long it takes. The dispatcher got the translator on the phone, took about thirty seconds. By the time that translator was trying to translate and get all the information back to the dispatcher, That call ended up taking nine minutes before the dispatcher got all the information they need out of that translation service. What this does is real time automatically translates all those calls. And this includes nine eleven calls.

Back and forth conversation or just on one side where the dispatchers can hear?

Are you talking about this, this or this?

Yes, yes. How does it work? Because I know there's some stuff out there that you can, I can see it, but the other person can't I can't say anything back?

No. This is real time for both ends. Okay. Someone calls dispatch. They speak a foreign language. As soon as they start speaking, the system recognizes that language. I think it recognizes something like 80 something languages. So it will recognize that language and the dispatcher will automatically see it in the text format in front of them. It translates it for the dispatcher real time, not having to call a translator, but that dispatcher is there. The call taker is talking to them.

They're seeing what they're saying. The dispatcher speaks back over the phone and it translates their voice into text for that person in their language. So it's all going on real time. So there's no delay based on the translation. The transcription side of it provides live transcription of all those what was said, so that can be posted right into the records and documented.

The dispatch assistive side of it actually takes all the radio dispatcher. Sometimes, you know, officers will be out there in a windy condition or whatever. They're talking to us. The dispatcher's having difficulty understanding what they're saying. It's transcribing it real time right in front of the dispatcher. So they're getting that information. I I could go on and on and on. There's so many features that exist with this. And again, this is technology that didn't exist. It's very impressive.

If you ever watch the demos, it's just so impressive to see. And it will save our dispatchers a lot of time and let them focus on what they need to focus on, which are 9 11 calls.

You. I have another question kind of different from that. Your power system, what goes, happens if your power system goes down? What kind of backup do we have?

I'm sorry?

What kind of backup power system do we have?

At the dispatch center?

Yeah, for you guys.

There's two things that happened. First of all, we're on a UPS system, uninterrupted power supply that instantly, and I mean in a fraction of second, if the power goes down within a fraction of a second, all of our systems are still running. It stays up. That UPS system holds that and keeps it up, I of question is first question down until we make sure that that generator is kicked on and powering the center.

I guess the other part of that question, I guess because I've never heard in the relationship of keeping that power system up or financial wise, how do we handle that?

How do we pay for it? It's budgeted in every year. The UPS next comes I

of

think think the that was put into the budget first with year before last when we installed that. That ran through the IT department. And what we utilized up until that time were small UPS boxes that each system, like each radio had one, the phone system. They had all these small little UPS systems that we've incorporated into one system that powers it all now.

That's good. I just want to know if that had always bothered me if something goes down, emergency or Tony

Absolutely. We're prepared for that. That's one of the main things we look at. If it goes down, the power of the UPS system kicks in, it's up and running and then the generator kicks in and it's up and running. So we test those systems all the time, the generator and the UPS system. We have to make sure we don't go down. We can't go down in our business. Great question.

Thank you. Doctor. Anthony Coleman had something first.

Real quick, real quick. Going back to piggyback off of McLean's question.

Software

is, well it's not software, but that program is quite impressive just hearing about it. But I do have a question. You said 100% and so I'm into numbers. So when you said 100%, I want to know how just give me a layman's term, if I call, how would that system know that I'm non emergent?

Well, the number you call in on. If you don't call

in the number, if I call 911. Right. Okay.

Have several non emergency lines that come into the center And if you call one of those lines that actually we have to by law, we have to publish a number that's a non emergency number that comes into the center so that people can call the 911 center for a non emergency. Also to that point, all of our alarm companies, the monitoring companies, well, if you have an alarm at your house, let's say it's ADT security system and it's monitored. That doesn't happen in Jonesboro. That monitoring system like for AT and T may come from Denver, Colorado. Well, if they call 911, it's going to go to Denver, the able to to

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percent of all calls to coming into the center. Point Yes, sir.

Great, thank you.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Anderson. Thank you. Mr. Starch, I had a quick question for you. The current translation service that we're currently using, how long do you think that we're gonna keep that on the books after we get this system put into place?

We are told what we're looking at and I asked that question, how long is it going to take to implement this program? And that's one of the reasons we tried this. Y'all just approved this in budget for 2026. So we got this resolution to get it for the mayor to get signed. We will be we are actually gonna be the first in the state of Arkansas implements this entire package. There are a couple of agencies utilizing AI. North Little Rock just put it in their '26 budget for the entire package. So I want to get it on the books first because I want to be the first. I'm I want those bragging rights. So anyway, that's the reason we put it out here.

But to answer your question, the I've talked to our representative from from I'm sorry. From prepared I can't I can't talk right now. He says the call taking assistive side of it generally takes about he said it can run anywhere from thirty to sixty days for them. They'll send a team of technicians in here, their support team, and they will come in. Will get start getting a lot of information from us as to this type call, who do we wanna route it to and so forth and so forth.

He said about thirty to sixty days that they will have that set up. So and with that to that point, the the money that's paid for this system, when it's all fully implemented, and that's gonna take a little while to fully implement everything, all the features, but we can do away the the goal is we will do away with that translation service that we're paying fees to every month.

Right.

We can do away with our text to 911 service that we're paying fees to every month. So there's a lot of things that is incorporated into this one that we will be able to eliminate and narrow it down to this one system. So there's a lot of savings that will come along with this system too from the annual budget.

Thank you, sir.

Any other questions from the committee? Anything from the public or other staff? If not, please cast your vote on whether or not to forward resolution 25,217 to full council. Was the last item under new business. Under pending items, we have, I'm not gonna read this resolution.

It's resolution twenty five thousand one ninety eight. It's a resolution by the city council to accept an offer and enter into a contract to purchase property and indoor litigation efforts between the city of Jonesboro and Laurel Park LLC. Obviously, this was sent back to the council or sent back by the council at the last City Council meeting. The time's already passed for the agreement. So I think today we're just going to kind of get an update from Mr. Richardson about what our next steps might be. I don't know if Carol has got anything to add. But I can say my viewpoint is I think we need to end the litigation and get moving on so that someone can sell it.

Obviously the offer that was outlined by this resolution effectively expired. I think it technically expires tomorrow, but there's no way to actually perfect that and close that. So really, I guess our next steps are, I believe that last time we kind of laid out the steps or proceed with the lane, settle the lane or buy the property in a So obviously, the latter, unless the finance and city council wants to make a counter offer, and I don't know how successful that would be, but that's certainly an option we could entertain. The others would be to possibly either negotiate out a settlement and end all the litigation or just carry on and attempt to perfect the lane and eventually foreclose

on

the lane but that would be several years. So I think it's just a continued discussion that we need to have. Because I get it. It's really confusing for the public and for me and for everybody trying to follow. It's pretty complicated. So obviously, the more we can talk about it in here, hopefully, the better the public can understand how their tax dollars are effective one way or the other with this.

I guess my question is, it might be silly. When is it done?

Does it

need to be emotional? This is more just discussion. We're not sending it back to full counsel. It's just more, it was a, we'll get Carol's opinion.

I mean it was sent back to you, so eventually you'll need a motion whether that's to postpone indefinitely or whether that's to vote it up or down or.

I know we post on But there's still Second.

There's no discussion on that. No,

you can have it as long as we got, if it was days, if we said thirty days, sixty days, ninety days, from what I gather is no discussion, but then definitely I believe we can still have discussion.

Chris isn't here, so I'll say yes.

We have discussion on that. No, indefinitely. Yep.

Alright, so now there is a motion and now we can have discussion. Go ahead, Charles.

Well,

I was just gonna say, if I remember correctly, I think the appraised value was somewhere around $300,000 So if it's $300,000 then the most we can expect to get back would be $300,000 If you had a 3,600,000 lien to that, that property is probably not going move. Our litigation, our attorney fees are going to be no telling how much. I just think when we did this, as we've said many times, it was a public safety issue. It was never like, we're probably going do this unless we get our money back. Something.

Unfortunately, fell on our shoulders. But I just think in my opinion, if the mayor continues discussions with Laurel Park and sees what kind of offer it can be brought back to finance or to maybe the committee or the council. I think in my opinion that might be our best next move. But Doctor. Coleman?

I just show what I've made statements. I've done it just, you know, it's like we keep throwing money. When are we going to this settled? How long? Because maybe it's from a litigation standpoint, maybe it's going to take a little bit longer than it. But it just I just don't think we need to be out anymore.

Yeah. To Doctor. Coleman's point and Councilman Hafter, there's no way to estimate the time period and the money that's going to be involved to defend this lien. It's not going to be cheap. That's what we know.

It's not going to be cheap and it's not going to be fast. And at the end of the day, what you've got is a lane that's on that one parcel of property where the tower was. And in three or four years, if that sells for $350,000 then the city, I guess, could go after the $350,000 But the real question is, and the unknown, is how much it's going to cost us to get to a point where we can collect $350,000 I do think that there is interest from Laurel Park to potentially settle this for obviously way less than $3,200,000 But at the end of the day, it's, if you're comparing what is the most efficient and beneficial use to the taxpayers, again, we're not getting back to $3,250,000 we spent to tear down that building. I mean, I don't know how to be any more clear than that. And that's been discussed from the get go.

That money is not coming back through conventional lane recovery. Through economic development over time, maybe. But. I bet either. Yeah.

Well, so what what we are happy to do in the city administration is we can continue negotiating a possible possible or we can work with city attorney to continue legal proceedings and hire an outside counsel. So those are, that's really where we're at right now. Again, what you win in the end if you win, I don't know that it's a whole lot. If you can sell it for a reasonable amount, it's probably more money in your pocket from a profit standpoint over litigation.

I guess the confusing part to me and it is confusing, even say the city bought it, do we have any more litigation anywhere, period. Okay. Or if the city bought, do we still have other obligations and legal entities involved? And I think that's why I made the statement, you know, to me it needs to be done. If we're gonna abide and no other legal aspects or go into court and all that, that's more probable to me than to keep going and put more money into it. And you add into the $3,500,000 that we've already spent. That's insane. That's taking tax people's money and just screwing it around as far as I'm concerned.

So I can answer the litigation part of that, doctor Coleman. If we had purchased the property, that would have ended our part of because there is still currently pending litigation between Laurel Park and OneMain. That's the name of it. Right? OneMain. And that is on appeal, but that litigation is basically money. It's over the building that's no longer there. So that is, you know, is is One main owed money because the building was, you know, that that type it's between those two entities. We're not a party to that at this time. So the answer to that as far as if we had purchased it would be no.

There would be no more litigation. But and the litigation that would be that's pending right now is they've appealed our placement of the lien. So we would have to, and they have a right to do that under our code, appeal it to circuit court. Our answer is due on February 1.

Mister chairman, one of the things I was just thinking about, Brian, I know you guys negotiate and I'd love to see us come away with something to recover some money for our taxpayers. I don't know what that number is. I know what my number would be but at the same time, we'd love to see us either A, well let me ask you this, have we countered?

So on the initial property purchase, the owner was asked multiple times if that pretty much their final offer. Again, the offer to purchase that is currently up for discussion about tabling right now, as a part of trying to make this a transparent process as possible, you presented what we were, counsel was presented what we were presented and there wasn't just a whole lot of back and forth other than just, okay, here's your terms, is this how much money you want and is this the final offer? And that was the final offer. There any interest in going any lower by the owner. When it comes to negotiating lane, obviously there's some back and forth.

Think we'd all like to say as much money as possible. But the property owner obviously is under no obligation to say, oh, That's his choice. And so I would say that

Not to sell. I'm not asking

if we were to sell. Or even to settle.

Or Yes. I mean, if we sell our lien, have we gone back and said, hey, this is the number we'll take? Because I think we should. If we're going to settle settle it and try and avoid legal costs for years, then I think we should definitely go back and say, all right, here's a number we feel comfortable with. And obviously you guys bring it back to us and we get to decide, but have we done that or no?

Well, that was kind of what Councilman Hafter and I briefly kind of discussed as far as do we use this meeting to discuss or use this motion to discuss what kind of range of settlement that we might want to look at? And obviously, we're not asking to pass a resolution to approve settlement. But I mean, would anticipate that you're not gonna get a $300,000 settlement out of this, but we can start there if you would like.

I don't think we need to set the range. I think y'all need to negotiate and bring back to us what you think is acceptable offer.

Well, we'll bring back what the owner would agree with. And happy to do that and I'm sure that we can probably have that for the next finance committee meeting. Because one way or the other, we need to be able to move on to hire outside counsel to answer to answer a lawsuit.

My only point of caution is that the next finance meeting is on the thirteenth. Let me look at a calendar.

Yeah, it'll be the thirteenth.

And if something is approved by council or by a committee, it would

then go to council on the twentieth which would then be within a week and

a half of when our answer is due as far as hiring outside legal counsel and giving them the opportunity to get that filed. So you know if if we had something sooner you may have a special called finance meeting requested so that it could potentially go on the council meeting on the thirteenth and give at least a little more time for litigation to be prepared for if they were gonna You mean on the I mean on the sixth. Yeah. Yeah. Which is really close.

Yeah. Well, if there's, I mean, if there is a, yeah, if there is a worthwhile offer to consider, I think that would happen pretty quick. I mean, there have been continuing discussions with the representatives from Park about what a realistic settlement amount could possibly be.

I was just saying depending on what the timeline is, we could, I mean, could, if they don't have something in a week, I mean, that's not very far out the next council meeting, we could always do a special call council meeting too, couldn't we?

Had to and could get a

quorum. So,

I mean, do we want to set, I guess, Monday, try to have some information back by Monday for consideration for a potential special called meeting on Tuesday?

Good to me.

I guess the worst we can do is just hear no.

Right. I mean that would be my recommendation just to give you time to go ahead and get counsel hired and get an answer filed timely because they gave us an extension just so y'all are aware. During the discussions of the offer to sell, part of our negotiation was they had amended their appeal complaint. I accepted service on behalf of you guys for that so that they didn't have to expend more money serving everyone. The exchange for that was I agreed to accept that that service in exchange for them extending our time to file an answer to February 1 so that we had time to deal with all of this with the holidays and everything, like, crunching in right there together.

Our answer would have already been due. So they agreed to extend to February 1 to give us time to work through all of that.

Out of curiosity, I mean could we run this thing concurrently as if a deal wasn't coming down the pipeline? We could proceed with outside counsel. I don't know what the dollar amount would necessarily be on that.

I don't know either you can, you just incur legal expenses at that point.

At this point. Personally I'd rather not throw good money at bad money. If there was a deal to be made, would much rather do that. But I also realized that they've kicked this thing for thirty days to go through and look at this deal. However, I don't know if they'd give us another thirty days to try to mediate between settlement

I would not count on that based upon my discussions. We can always ask, but I would not expect that. I pushed really hard to get February 1 instead of January 1.

Thank you for your efforts.

Yeah. Okay. Any other questions or comments? Anything from the public attendance? I would like to

say this. I think it's a great discussion, but on the same token, I do want to save our taxpayers money, obviously, but I also don't want to waste money either. So even if it takes a few more days, then I'd rather take a few more days than just throw something up. Now, I was intrigued by what council member Moore said the other week was about having this lean. I don't know how that works because all of this is very confusing but to have this but to have type when he was mentioning because we have the lien, then, we can kind of help navigate who purchases and all of that kinda stuff. So I don't know if that's in this part or

No. That was only if we purchased the property that we would have control over who how it was developed and who we sold it to.

That's the other thing. If we purchased what's in this, we still don't own every parcel there. I mean

Well, the offer to purchase was for his additional parcels, but not for the ones I've seen. Right.

Any other discussion before we vote on the motion to postpone indefinitely? Please cast your ballot on postponing indefinitely resolution twenty five one ninety eight. All right, that was all under pending items. Is there any other business?

Yes, I would like to mention or ask, I talked about this in the public works, public service, I forget those names, but the timing is really tough as far as the 04:00 meetings. Have we ever had a discussion on moving this closer to city council times or whatever?

I don't think the issue we have is we have MAPC that starts at 05:30 or five or 05:30. So if we moved it back to five, we'd only give ourselves a thirty minute window to

And I will say on the last meeting where it ran over, it takes a while for the system to reboot. We started in my PC like thirty minutes late because the system has to go down and I don't know I don't know how that works, but they have to pull up the next meeting and get it rebooted and ready for them to vote. So I'm not sure exactly what that entails. That would be maybe an IT or maybe a U question. I don't know. But I just know it took a while and we started late because the finance meeting had run late before.

I I guess an option would be if MAPC wanted to flip spots with us. It

takes more time for them in the back to reset than it does to reset this computer.

Options. I hear you. Any

other business?

By the way, Doctor. Anthony, that's

not

the first time that's come up and still no options.

Yes, I guess.

If there's no other business, we'll move into public comments. This gives the public a chance to comment on something that was not discussed on today's agenda. Please state your name and address for the record.

Patty Lack, 4108 Forest Hill Road. A couple of months you guys, I brought up the idea of the city of Jonesboro going cashless or mostly cashless. And I think it's about time that we start implementing that in a lot of our parks and facilities. I don't know how it's done. It can't be too, too hard because I think you look at, like, First National Bank is they had their little quirks on all that for a couple of weeks, but they've got that fixed already.

And I know that in the newspaper or I saw a write up that it was when Jonesboro was taking over City Stars that one of the things was is that they wanted them to go cashless. So I don't know if that situation with City Stars is cashless or not. But there's plenty of options that we have. You look at the high schools, as they do like the Go Fan page. There's also another system that it's called core that you can have and then also to how that can tie in maybe to the city buses.

But I think it's about time and I think the situation that the city is in right now that we look to going maybe not totally cashless, but I think it's important that we start doing that, especially when there's not a lot of sports being played right now. It's a kind of a slow time that maybe the IT or maybe that there's someone from the outside that can help us implement or we can get ideas from whoever did the First National Bank. But I think it's about time that we go because I think there's so many companies now that are doing that. So I hope you guys can look into it.

I don't

know who that person is but just to put that for the last thing for the year and I wish you guys happy new year. Thank you.

Any other comments from the public?

I just wanna say that what I've learned about sports is there's apparently never a slow season. I don't know if y'all knew that, but like there's like four things going on now, I think. I thought that too, Patty. I thought, oh, well, this is a slow time. We'll be able to to figure all this out, but I don't think it I don't think there ever is one over there. But Ongoing. I do know the discussions have been ongoing about that.

There's really no no such thing as an off season anymore.

I don't think so, man. There's so many sports now that it's all year round is what they're telling me.

If there's no other public comments, the next item is adjournment.

So moved.

All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed?