Planning & Zoning Commission - Regular Meeting

Hey Theresa, I would like to open this meeting.

No, no. Chairman Steve Dyer.

Yes.

Mark Zielinski. Brian Heal here. Kyle Cook. Todd McConnell.

Everyone is here. Exactly. Approval of the protocol.

Mark wasn't there.

That would be awesome. I file an application for approval and will support you.

Kyle Cook, Todd McConnell, Brian Hill, Malinsky.

Dismissed. There you go.

Thank you.

Continue to point out the public comments that are not in the agenda. No word today. No today. We see. None. Shall we continue? The submitted application.

I don't see any reason to present it.

Not yet. Probably next time. Review and recommendation to the Council. Preliminary use permit 11 1934 Johnstown Utica Road application. Is employee report. Let's start. With the application on. Do you have an application?

Yes, you are the application for the previous use.

If you would please come to the microphone, please tell us your name.

Andy D.S. from Congruy. Andy D.S. from Congruy.

Can you tell us something about this application?

We only use it for the previous storage of materials for the farm.

We are working on building your fence with the sight protection fence. In the absence of better terms. That's what we're doing right now.

What kind of fence is it?

I think we're going to set up a mesh fence. Then we have the sight protection area. Is that where you're on the other street?

Yes, it's similar to that.

It's opposite of the collage building. I wasn't there, I don't know. So it's more of a... I think we're going to knock down the forest. Enterprise.

And I saw that it was valid for five months and 30 days.

As always, it was less than one or six months. While you use it all the time, you think it will be like that.

I hope we will complete the projects by the end of the year.

Should be by the end of December. Should be like that. And nothing dangerous. Only building materials. Hand holes, pipes. It's just stuff to build fiberglass cables. Gibt es noch Fragen von jemandem aus dem Vorstand?

Nein? Ja, der Standort ist bereits da.

Sie machen den Zaun. Wir werden ihn wieder so hinstellen, wie Sie ihn vorgefunden haben.

Have we ever noticed in the past that it's a... I've looked at a few things where you had to put a caution. Right. So for the case that I don't open it after six months. I want to convince you.

I researched it.

...is covered in your rental agreement.

It is covered because it should be under the property owner. One of 30 to 6, then 6 to 6. And do we do that? So it's in the rental agreement of the property owner. Is it the property owner again?

You have my lease agreement with the property owner. And I think I read something about me.

But I'm not sure if... I remember something about culture.

I don't know if he has that in the past. I don't know what our presidential election is, because I think that's new for me.

What was the number, Brian?

He said... 06. I would have to choose it myself. Then I'll take a look later.

I don't know if I put the lease agreement in my pocket.

I only mention it because I started looking for it.

I don't know if we all Columbus or Polaris from Berfart.

And I think it's the Maxton Road.

It's definitely a temporary use.

They've been standing there for a year and a half and I wonder what's going on with them.

Here where they're building the water thing. I don't know what it is, but they're just about done with it. But that's not a temporary use. Not a temporary use? That's a much more permanent use. Is it near? It's done under Erich. It's with the water.

No, it's close to the tramway, to the end of Next Town.

Someone lives right there in the corner.

Does he live in this house? Not everyone. I asked who lives in this house, which has been empty for years, by the way. No, but is that something we normally have? I don't know. Do you know that they are brand new? Yes, we have.

We don't. We don't have that. We don't. I think... I think if something were to happen, well, normally there is a lease agreement with the property owner and then we would have a problem with the property owner if something does not meet the zoning regulations, you know, after removal. So. But I think I know that you have a lease agreement and I think I've seen something there. Try to find it quickly, but.

In the last mentioned number 113296 here. I can read it very quickly.

Okay, here it is.

It says, yes, it stands for underdeveloped location, proof of performance guarantee or the possibility at the time of approval of the reconstruction of the original state of the location before the beginning of the use to ensure. That comes to me as bohemian as ever, but before the use that has already been used. Before the use was so, yes. The earth, which technically with gravel, it also belongs to Who is the owner?

Elise is at the John Ton Land Company.

So there are already plans, there are not necessarily plans, but there is a layout plan that can be built there anyway. So it would definitely be convenient. The return to the previous stand is not really a big problem here. Richtig. Es ist nur etwas, das in unserem Code steht. Wir müssen es für zukünftige Versionen berücksichtigen. Ich denke nicht, dass wir es ignorieren sollen. Richtig, in unserem Code. Es heißt, dass Sie eine Bürgschaft benötigen.

Und es ist in Ordnung, wenn wir das ignorieren.

Wir müssen das besorgen, bevor Sie mit dem Bau beginnen.

Denn es heißt auch vorher. Das steht jetzt wahrscheinlich schon seit einem Monat.

Da haben Sie schon angefangen.

Aber wir haben es ja noch nicht genügt.

But they were only informed about the process after they had moved to the construction site and signed the lease agreement. Mark, similar to the first incident at the other construction site.

On behalf of WITZ.

We can. We have notified you. Our construction inspector came by and informed you that we have a approval process. And they immediately took care of it, filled out and sent the application.

Jamie, I know you're working on something else, but do you know of anything in the contract?

I know, I found it.

My indication should show us as a community.

That's why we gave you only one minute. I would like to add, if you look at the conclusion of the employee report. Yes, I just wanted to say that there are recommendations for this. Let's think about it.

Three conditions. First of all, there is still a small error in the documents. The contact person for the construction site is the city of New Albany.

Under your conditions.

But the condition is that the construction site, after completion or the process of the previous use permit, be returned to its original state. And we have money to pay for it. But if we know the owners of the property, we will not have any problems. Yes, that's right.

Ich glaube nicht, dass es bei diesen Anleihen im Mietvertrag eine Nachruhmöglichkeit gibt, aber darüber wird gesprochen.

Brian, wie denkst du, dass deine Frage beantwortet wurde? Ich denke, das ist etwas, das wir in Zukunft in Betracht ziehen müssen. Gute Entscheidung.

Und ich weiß nicht, wie wir andere darauf aufmerksam machen sollen. Können Sie die Genehmigung erteilen, wenn wir Tubs erhalten? Ich weiß es nicht.

And I don't know if... This is the second construction site that we have. Used as a temporary use. And now, because the property owner of the property was informed about the US-62, they have their... They will see another one next time. We have another temporary use permit for this in the office. But the property owner did the right thing and told them that they have to look at the city before they move in. Move in.

So we're making improvements. That sounds... Are there any more questions or comments? Is there anything else from you? Are there any public comments? Since I don't see any, I will make a request to the council to recommend the approval for the previous use permit under the two conditions.

Which conditions?

Oh, with the... Okay. Steve Dyer, Kyle Cook, Todd McConnell, Brian Hevel, Stansky.

Okay.

That's up to the council now. I'm signing off.

But please stay seated and enjoy the session. Or you can go right away.

No evaluation.

Go on. Application 900.126. Permission of parceling without parcels. Green Chapel Road. Let's start with this one again. I will recommend the same. We'll hear from the applicant first. Turn on my cell phone. That's the sound of freedom. That's an eagle that's just... It would have been funny if he stopped. Try to get in here quickly. Do you need help? I think I got it. My connection doesn't work.

Is this the only adapter here?

There's an online call.

I just wanted to call for the survey. I think I sent it to him.

Is it the same survey as the one in your package? You also have a copy of paper.

Yes, it should be the same.

One week later I am.

Professionell.

So while you're at it, I'll keep going. Hello everyone, my name is Chase McEwgan. I'm from the John Town Land Company. Today we are applying for the allocation of a property. It's about 100, 830 pt acres of 242 total area in front of the allocation. In the last few months we have been in touch with an end user on the site and due to the type of business and the density of the site, they do not have to take over the entire 42 acres. Therefore, we would like to push the project forward and enable its use and bring economic development into the city and divide this property according to your recommendations.

If someone is watching at home, they might want to see it. As I continued to develop the PD and we slowly began to absorb these missing teeth, we constantly spoke about the fact that it was easiest to put everything together at one location so that we could divide the basics, when users came in, according to their different requirements. The process only consisted of creating a huge base, the best possible.

Now you share it because you want the company that is located there to only need x areas and can move in its company. That's what we say. That's right.

And the remaining property is what it is.

It is about 99 hectares.

This property is one that we have submitted for a Columbus RFI project for economic development and will continue to submit. This is the corner property. So we have two nice pieces of land.

Yes, because Intel is located directly south, we would like to bring some great end users here to complement the area and really bring the corridor to life. The transfer for the corner is also carried out by Licking Electric.

Yes, this land exchange is completely completed. The LRE transshipment was moved here from the Duncan Plains and Mink corner. Now the transshipments are located along the eastern border of Collagic in the Bau.

The transshipment, simply buried underground, is the right way. This is technically not part of the 88 hectares.

That is not to be done. To actually close the land exchange with LRAE, we had to set up a legal property for them so that they could then acquire it, in quotation marks, because they didn't do it. No dollars were transferred, but then they also needed a front along the Green Chapel. So you come to a property that looks like a plain flag property, but if you follow the course of services with the power lines, it actually works quite well.

Theoretically, you could put these two together with the 88 hectares. How many are the others? Probably 10.

Well, LE will continue to have the property. That you exchanged with him.

That's at the corner of Duncan Plains.

So the property that we now control at Duncan Plains and Ming. The idea is that we introduce ourselves shortly, which has nothing to do with what we are doing today. But that we include it in the city before we make an application for incorporation. We only regulate a few things internally, because we apply for a serviceability for water and wastewater disposal and also a road law with the T-Bahn, because they want to build a roundabout there. So we just want to do it internally and then possibly submit it to the planning commission to join the city.

I just want everyone else to know that we will not just sit here on an 88 hectare large property. It will get bigger. And whether you are now in talks or contracts or whatever, but I know that there is another property north of it that is also for sale.

Uh, yes, you're the one who's at the... Menka... Is that the one you're talking about?

Yes. That also has to do with all of this. So, whether you're working on something or not, there's potential for improvement. That's the core of what I'm looking for. I agree. I just want to make sure that we don't have any useless areas. That's what I was talking about. This can all be connected. It's not this one, but it's like the next one over there. You have the property up there. And then I know if the finances would work and he agrees to a sale price that another property is for sale. Is this the division line here? This is like the curvature line? Yes. So that was the argument at the end.

I can't divide a screen from any ground, but does that help?

The division line follows the natural one. There is a tree border and something like a stream. So there was a natural interruption in the property anyway. This is simply followed by the ... Divisibility of it.

So there is one. The stream here shares the two energy cells in one second. That's not possible. That's for the location.

I don't know if that helps. Can you see that a little better?

It needs a picture, so don't feel bad. It's useless.

That's because of what they've done up here, probably with their form. I would like to say that I know the area. If it doesn't matter to you when I ask, I know the area. The property that you might still be marketing is on the Mink.

And where the roundabout is on the corner of Mink and Greenshine.

Understood.

Wonderful.

We could all move in one direction. We have our base stations in zone 3 and 4. You said the corner 1 and zone 3. Yes, the sub-areas. Because I'm just curious what's going on. Sub-area 3 has a front return of 50 feet, a lateral return of 25 feet and a rear return of 25 feet and a rear return of 25 feet and sub-areas 4 and 4 and 1, 3, 4, 5, 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 have all the same returns. I mean, more in relation to our 400 total acres before.

But then there was the PD district, the PD district was something else, what I'm trying to find out. How big is our minimum buildable property size in the PD district?

About 88 acres below, right?

What is the question?

The minimum property size in the PD district, I don't think there was a minimum property size. I think it was the entire PD. I think that's how it was.

Yes, the entire plan development must have a minimum. Every sub-area can be under this threshold, the overall development of the plan. Therefore, this does not change the zone division. Even if a property is divided up. Everything that is currently in the development planning should remain in development. And with those that you divide up, there are no overlaps in the sub-areas. None of the sub-areas intersect, but in the two floor pieces we assume. For example, the corner piece includes the sub-areas 3 and 4 for the zone division along the mink, although it is currently a floor piece. And then this here, where we have set up an end user for a sub-area 1 and 2.

Excuse me, 1 and it is 1 and 5.

We do not have a property size determined by the approved master plan, that's what it says there.

I know we have. I just have to have a reference to what is contained in each section in relation to what we allow there, because I don't want to get caught or have a certain amount of space that we now divide, take something away.

So the division, the uses, the recirculation. The end user would have to stick to the current zone division, depending on how the division is divided. As part of the three areas, one of which is the right-hand side, the area 5 is the area. These are the zones.

Three out of four. More family houses, commercial areas.

And then sub-area 5 was more like your own evening. That was what we were short of 90 hectares. We added that to sub-area 5, I think.

No, that's sub-area 1. So at this point we didn't know if sub-area 5 would be used for commercial or industrial purposes.

And basically, if you decide on one thing, you lose the rights for the other, because if you set up construction plans, there was a time when the argument was made. But I think the deliberate use of it is that it is used for industrial purposes. Basically, because of the data, because of how everything worked out. I think we have to, I can imagine that in the future, that it will obviously not be a residential area at the moment, but that we will settle industrial areas everywhere.

That would be very alber. The cultivation area in the area does not change. The map should be active.

We are still about 400 hectares in total. The cultivation area remains. The total development plan is clearly over 400. Because the construction area does not change.

The housing construction bank. The number of units.

That's right. It can simply be used as something else for another reason. That's exactly what the property division is doing. There are no plans for the western base. There are no plans. Yes, that can't be true. That will be your most important question to be asked.

But the sub-areas change.

They just hang off of it. The map just has to change. And realistically, it will change completely anyway.

There are more families and houses.

And that will not be an advantage. Yes, but... That... Is the end user in any way connected to the Intel project? No.

Do you have any more questions? I mean, I try to ask in an informal way. That should...

I don't say. It's not... I mean, we would probably assume that it doesn't directly relate to it.

I try to ask as many questions as possible without saying, hey, who's going in there? Because I know that it's not like it's already finalized or established. Well...

I think if the end user wants to speak to the CODA board, probably sooner rather than later, Is that okay? I think the screen is clear.

Any other questions from the board?

I don't know. Do you need anything else? It's time to make a decision.

Does anyone have a request? I have a request for approval in the written form.

A request? I can make a request.

Yes, but I have to find it now. Have you said the conclusion of the employee report?

Trevor just said that the district map should be updated accordingly in order to adapt it to the revised property limits if this property division is approved. So if that's something, then ...

It remains in the same sub-region.

This is the pre-selected user.

Excuse me, I want the application. Do not support the application.

Do you have to correct me or not?

Please stay here for the rest of the meeting. Steve really wants to talk about the ... Discuss fees for the zone allocation. Brian has put something together. Brian, would you like to talk about it?

Well, yes. We don't have homework. I don't know if someone else has done that.

He left the last meeting and said we should do a few homework. So I didn't spend too much time with it.

What is that?

I spent a little time with it yesterday, to quickly go through what we have compared to what is around Granville, Sunbury and Delaware. If you get the table out, that's probably the easiest thing to do at the moment.

And she compares our prices with her prices for housing and commercial costs. And that came from the discussion that you, Kai, had with a house owner.

I had her with Jeff Sabo. And that was the only thing I worry about in the real estate sector.

I don't know if there are any new residential properties.

No. Now, I think what I mean by that is that we can make use of it. You already know such things. We don't have to worry about it if it has to do with a development or a business.

I just wanted to make it easier for you.

We should definitely encourage people to do projects and not give up on them.

And if you look at the comparable prices, we are definitely in the low end.

Apartment in Granville 50 to 25 dollars, sometimes 10.

Sunbury about the same. Although there are some with higher prices. Permission for schuppenterraces in the US.

But in Delaware it's still about 50 to 55 dollars. Yes.

But is there anything that the city has to do if it receives these permits that require a higher fee?

I think Jeff Szabo spoke at the last meeting about approvals of the suitability. He referred to this, because some residential buildings are located in the historic city center and if they are located in the historic city center, they need a COE of 300 US dollars to be submitted to the Design Review Board for various projects. That could be a fence, you know. It could be something as small as a fence. It could be, you know, if a COA is prescribed in the design standards and you carry out a project in the end and your house, I think, is in Maple Street, you know, one of these houses, which is even two streets from the city center, is still in the historic city center. So I think these are the special cases that are included in the more expensive fee, but

because they require a COA.

A large COA. We have encrypted the COAs. A few years ago, we tried to encrypt the costs, because now we have a COA for signs that only costs 75 dollars, a COA major that is submitted to the committee and a COA minor that only costs 100 dollars. However, these few are included in the COA major because they fall into the historical inner city.

In reality, we only have to repair the historical piece in order to possibly adapt it.

And then maybe some of these...

I don't know, but we know.

... also make sure that we agree with these numbers.

Now, regarding all other permits, our current fees, I don't know if you had the feeling that one of them was inappropriate.

I went to a few different communities to get the exact fees, the most recent ones, because they are not published anywhere. Even if I look at some of them. Yes, that was another question. If you agree 100% with me, we will...

I don't necessarily say that we only go down to $35 for everything if we need someone like Jeff.

He is inspected and the paperwork is done. We are already spending $35 on costs, without a doubt. The only other fee you mentioned, Theresa, that would worry me, is the fee for the zone entry. All of it. Is that true? Stop, so far we only had... Regulatory zone entries, 350.

Well, 350 would be important.

I don't know if we already had something like that.

Was that part of the comparison? Of the zone entries?

Yes. I don't think so. I don't think I saw it.

I think our current fees are included in this decision. Yes, exactly those there.

But it's not such a decision.

Our current fees for things.

That would be the only one if I wanted to choose a house. So it seems as if we had arrived at this housing permit. Smaller fences, terraces, things like that. Everything that has to do with commercial real estate, we have already decided. And then it seems as if it were the two areas of the historical area that we care about. Is that right?

I think so.

I think everything else is pretty cheap, I think. So did you shoot the orange ones? Or is there another one in the orange? I mean, that's basically all. Is the deviation correct? Excuse me. Yes, so what color do you have? We call it peach. We call it peach. The area in the peach colors. Are there any other fees we should discuss? Except the areas in peach.

In my opinion.

All of these are currently at

Is it in the main area?

The main area costs 300. Let me take a look. I wish my computer would think that we are that and talk about it next week. You know what? That could be it. Because it could only be 50 dollars for the deck. You should also look at Chapter N, I1-87 and the Design Review Administration table.

You should look at the new table, which was dismissed as an environmental change table, as many of them now fall under a COA.

Because even the things that were done here are not the same as the ones that are here. Hey.

I just noticed.

I asked if it was really up-to-date. That's why they are. That's our most up-to-date.

This is just a conversation.

We don't have to make a decision. This here is the most up-to-date. As long as we can limit our homework to the historical quarter. In consideration.

What do we want to change?

Because consider that you may have one of them, but you could also have a certification of suitability. Go to the design exam or if it depends on where it falls.

But I mean, in reality, we want to focus more on the historical district anyway. Because if it is a historical building, it costs everything, everything.

But some of these houses fall in... ...this area. Maybe you shouldn't...

But if you pay attention to it, it means that you pay for it. I will probably have a new development and planning manager for the city in the next four to six weeks. And I think it would be good if you could wait a little bit. Yes. So that you can see where you want to be according to your opinion. And just let it be evaluated, because I think it will take four to six weeks. We won't do that. That's great.

I think that's the right thing.

Is that okay? Well, that's perfect. And then you know, we won't let that fall. It will be something where we use the work that is taking place and just see. And that was easy.

Yes, that was great.

Thank you.

Any comments? Does anyone from the public have any comments on this? Then point 8 of the border suspension is the same as the one we have, only similar.

Are border suspensions, according to your experience, for the approval of a border suspension, for something that normally applies to the union?

Normally, it obliges the employees to recommend Unless there are unusual circumstances. No, that's okay. And I just asked myself, there were a few conversations that were about language.

Which I think are great. If you have someone with you who definitely makes the right decision. You know, especially with all the traffic and everything that goes on.

But if it's just one person. Sometimes it's not just whether it's the right person, but the right time or the right time.

Yes, that's usually the case.

Well, it just feels like we're fighting to remove some, but then it's easy to get one.

It's like we've been trying to negotiate lately, because 6237 is occupied. But then you can just get one. So it seems to be a bit backward, but... Yeah, it's mostly about the essentials. I think, to understand Steve's point, if someone comes and has to apply for a break, for example, to get a board stone discount. How should that be? Now, with a deviation, the employees often stick to the requirements of the Codex. The purpose of the deviation is that they want to go beyond the requirements of the Codex. So that would be the only reason why they would get a different answer. It still seems to be back. That does it. Yes. Now, the purpose of the deviation is that that there may be circumstances that make the employees in a difficult position. It is better if this is discussed in the committee. Is there any other discussion points? Other matters? Since I do not see any, I propose to postpone the meeting. I am in favor.