City Council - Regular Meeting

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It is Wednesday, May 6th, 2026, and we'll call the meeting to order at 6:34 p.m. Would you like to call roll? Yes. Um, Mayor Tiffany Hollins. Here. Ryan Riel. Don Burnard. Here. Matt Huggins. Huggins, and here. sorry.

That's okay. Uh, Kaylie Cook. Here. Jeff Bar. Present. Nicole Sherwood. Here. Tonight's invocation will be given by Jeff Sabo from the American Legion. You want to come up? Everybody would stand. Mayors, councilmen, council members, fellow citizens of Johnstown, let us bow our heads in prayer. Heavenly Father, we give you thanks for the freedoms we enjoy and for the men and women who have answered the call to serve our nation. In this month of military appreciation, we honor the courage and sacrifice. We honor the families and community members who support them. We pray for those who have given their lives. May they rest in your internal peace. Comfort the wounded, strengthen those who are in harm's way, and bless the hearts of the veterans returning home. We ask you to please guide our great leaders tonight and always with wisdom and charity as they make decisions for the common good of Johnstown. Saint Michael the Archangel, defend them. Our Lady, Queen of Peace, watch over them through Christ our Lord. Amen. Amen. And tonight the pledge will be led by Glenn Pollen from the American Legion. Please follow me in the separate reciting of the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, first item is approval of agenda.

Anyone want to make a motion? Make a motion to accept as written. I'll second. I have a motion. Was it Jeff? Jeff Barr? And a second from Kyle. Um, all in favor? Aye. Aye. All opposed? I'm abstaining. I was absent. Oh, I'm sorry. That's on the action on minutes. I also approve. He might also be absent today. We don't know yet. It's to be determined. Apparently I [laughter] am. Um, okay. March 17th minutes. Okay. Uh, action on minutes. We'll do individual cuz I'm not sure everyone was here for both. Um, March 17th minutes. Does anyone want to make a motion to approve? I'll make a motion to approve March 17th. Kyle. I'll second. Matt. Mhm. Um, any opposed? Yes. Hug.

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Yes. Okay. Sorry. Um Donny Banar? Yes. Um Mayor Hollis? Yes. Kyle Burke? Yes. Jeff Barr? Approved. And the motion? Yes. Uh next is the March 23rd, 2026 special meeting minutes. That was one you were absent on. Mhm. So I did it separate. Does anyone want to make a motion to approve? I'll make a motion to approve the March 23rd minutes. I'll second. Matthew Huggins? And then we'll get a vote. Um Matthew Huggins? Yes. Donny Banar? Yes. Brian Dady? Oh, sorry. Mayor Hollis? I'll abstain. I was I was not present for that meeting. I'll abstain. I wasn't present. Kyle Burke? Yes. Jeff Barr? Yes. And the motion? Yes. Motion passes. Okay, next we have um a proclamation for National Military Appreciation Month, which we're proud to honor and recognize. I'll You can join me. Come on up to the middle. Do you want to say something to the audience while I read it? So we actually uh gathered a list of the 16 individuals that are KIA and MIA from Johnstown. From the Civil War through World War II. I think we haven't lost any since. So we'll go through a reading of those

names now for the proclamation. Uh Civil War, and these are all local to Johnstown, correct? Uh Civil War, John Q. Adams, Wells Atwood, Jason Sturdevant, World War I, Harry Bowman, James Hyatt, Walter Lewis, Wilbur Mathes. Dennis Sayres, World War II, Spencer Weaver, Curtis Cramer, Joseph Deckrow, Charles Ditzel, William Emerson, Herbert Sayres, Gilbert Turner, and George Williamson. Proclamation National Military Appreciation Month, May 2026. Whereas the United States Congress designated the month of May as National Military Appreciation Month in 1999 to honor, remember, and recognize the United States Armed Forces, veterans, [snorts] and their families. Whereas Military Appreciation Month is intended to honor and recognize the contributions and sacrifices made by past and present military personnel in the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force, Space Force, Coast Guard, and National Guard, along with their spouses and families. And whereas during this month and throughout the year, we express our gratitude to service members, veterans, and to those who gave the ultimate sacrifice in defense of our freedom. And whereas the City of Johnstown, Ohio, joins in celebrating the many accomplishments and the dedication that members of the military have made during their service. And now therefore, I, Mayor Tiffany Hollis, on behalf of the Johnstown City Council, do hereby proclaim May 2026 as Military Appreciation Month, and encourage the Johnstown community to recognize the achievements sacrifices of military members, veterans, and their families. Thank you. Present this to you? Explain that? Thank you. Appreciate it.

Those that have served, please stand and be recognized. Mayor. Yes. Yes. Sorry. I stole that. No, it's okay. [applause]

THANK YOU. OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE UH CITIZEN COMMENTS ON MATTERS NOT on the agenda. Were there any speaker slips? There are. Okay. Um did Do you have Bernardis? Donny Bernardis. Okay. Um serving on council has been one of the greatest honors of my life and I take that responsibility seriously every single day. Like anyone in public service, I'm not perfect. I care deeply about this community and sometimes when important issues arise, uh especially around transparency, accountability, and process, that passion can come across stronger than intended. At the last couple council meetings, my frustration with communication surrounding certain discussions led to exchanges that become more personal or personal than productive and for that I take full responsibility. I believe strongly that council works best when communication is open, expectations are clear, and all members are given the same opportunity to be informed and engaged. Those are principles that matter and I will continue to advocate for them. At the same time, how we have those conversations matters just as much. Respect and professionalism should remain at the center of every disagreement. And I recognize those there are moments where I could have handled that better and I will. My commitment remains the same to serve this community honestly, ask difficult questions when necessary, and work towards decisions that protect the long-term best interests of Johnstown. We will not always agree, but we should always work together towards the same goal, doing is what is right for our residents. And thank you for the opportunity to serve. Next speaker is Mark Zilinski.

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Mark Zilinski. Here again, this time around was here at the last meeting and uh echoing the same message as last meeting. Mr. Barr, you unfortunately missed out on the fun for last meeting, but uh just uh almost echoing off of what Mr. Barr now just mentioned in that you are all but representatives of City Council. This is not personal, Council. Your personal opinion, while it does help sway your votes and everybody has their own agendas of where they see Johnstown [clears throat] going, does matter. We also have rules, guidelines, planning and zoning, which I'm part of, help guide you in that direction. Um whether somebody didn't answer your text message or a citizen looked out for their neighborhood and got information and got called out for why they went around a committee, uh my initial question there is why is committee just talking about it and not doing something. We all need to get things done and the city's going to fall behind if we don't. So, we can't put personal matters behind and move ahead and not have random facial expressions throughout the meetings or slamming things on desks or calling people out for why they did one thing or another instead of looking at ourselves and saying, "I'm a part of that committee. Why didn't we get that before the citizen did?" Hold each other accountable or but more so hold yourselves accountable. Um somebody expressed that tonight, held themselves accountable for actions last time. Everybody can do the same. We are all trying to get the betterment of the city and I think everybody out here can speak the same. I know I had a few people reach out to me after last meeting uh and expressed their gratitude for me coming up here and talking. Uh you can't hear it in my voice. Yeah, I'm a little nerve-wracking on this side of the bench talking in front of everybody, but I feel that passionately about the city uh and I stand here on behalf of the citizens of Johnstown that we want a council who is united,

maybe not in opinions, but in execution of what's needed for the city. So hopefully we can work towards that and put personal differences aside and continue for the betterment of the city. Thank you. Are there any more questions? No no further questions, okay. We will move on to the presentation. Mr. Sheridan, are you going to start? I am. Okay. Um one of the tools that most of the communities I've served uh is a geographic information system. And for those of you who are not familiar, a GIS is a computer-based system that captures, stores, analyzes, and visualizes spatial or geographic data to reveal patterns, relationships, and trends. Basically, it's layers of data that used to store a lot of valuable information about infrastructure, storm water, streets, and so forth. Uh it uses that data and you can analyze information and come up with uh recommendations that the nations that the human eye and human brain may not be able to pick up as easily. So, uh I looked towards some options for uh Johnstown and we talked to one of the companies uh called IMGIS. I had worked with them in the past in other communities and uh [clears throat] we've got a slideshow here. Okay. I have it on this TV out here. Maybe. No, we have it. I know we did. It's fine. You think?

This great slide show which I [laughter]

It was there just a It was. It was up. Where did it go? We'll get it back. Let me Let me add some additional information, I guess. Um a GIS integrates hardware, software, and data to manage geographically referenced information. The GIS system operates performing steps, capturing data, coordinates, satellite imagery, or survey data and recording it in a spatial database. And then you're able to compare that data. Essentially, you can have a layer of streets and what's the condition of the street. You can have the water lines, exactly where they're located, what size they are, when they were installed, what kind of condition, and the last time any maintenance was done. Many times on the paper maps, they'll show a line in a certain place, but your crew will know by having to dig it up to try to repair it, it's actually 6 in in a different location. And you wouldn't think that matters much, but over time, uh when your experienced employees Here we go. Uh are no longer with the city, sometimes that can be lost. It's really important to capture all that information. Here we go. So, there are four asset sources, four pieces. GIS mapping, asset management, work orders, and inventory. So, this GIS system actually will replace uh current software that we're using that that is uh basically the work orders and the asset management. Uh that system the city is paying $10,000 approximately a year. What I'm proposing that the city adopt will actually save us $2,000 a year. It will do all that as well as the GIS mapping for approximately $8,000 a year.

Go to the next slide. One second. What are we paying $10,000 for right now? I am works. It's an asset management and work order program. We've had it I think 3 or 4 years and the contract's actually up in July of '26. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. So, here's an example of the maps. So, we [laughter] have different layers of like I said streets, water lines, trees. You can have innumerable number of layers in your GIS. Uh typically the software company would charge us a a setup fee. In this case it was $4,000. Uh they agreed to waive that. So, we will pay $8,000 a year I think in initial 5-year contract. Um Go ahead with the next one. And this this would show the asset management. So, as I said the all the things that the city maintains, you can have a list, where they're located, when it was installed, what brand it is. Uh for example, you would think uh in most places that the city installs only one kind of fire hydrant and that's the smart way to do it. But I've worked in cities where I found out that we had five different fire hydrants which meant we had to have parts for five different replacements. When I asked why, the answer was, "Well, that was what was on sale at the time." The problem with that is sometimes they stop making those and then you don't have the parts to replace them. So, it's not cost effective to just buy the cheapest at the time. It's more cost effective to buy the same kind that you have determines is the best fit for your needs and then store enough parts to replace those as they wear out. Go ahead with the next one.

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Work orders, as I said, the current program does work orders, so you can track when staff is asked to make repairs, when the repair was made, who did it, what all has been repaired, and all that is stored in that layer. Next one. And facility management, so all the buildings, structures, and any other above ground that the city owns or maintains can be listed in a layer on in the GIS. And of course, inventory. Signs, pipe, anything that the city stores to fix, maintain, replace, to keep track of it, so you know when you need to order more. And it's important to know what size it is, when it was brought in, who the manufacturer was, and all those can be stored in a layer. And this is the last one. That's the last one. All right. I asked uh staff if they wanted to offer any of their perspective when we went through the presentation, I thought it was important for Jack and Mr. Rich here to participate, so they could see for themselves. Uh so, gentlemen, do you want to offer any comments on what you saw? Yes, I would. As uh Jeff had said, we've been working with an iWork program, it's called iWorks. And as we went through the demonstration on this, uh we found this to be much less cumbersome, easier to use, and it actually does a few things better. Um Jeff mentioned the asset management part portion of this. Well, there's a couple layers to that, and the asset management for the plant, the pumps, the valves, the materials, they currently are being held in 14 You're know, or 16 volumes of books that we manually write out and you know, this pump was replaced, this pump was repaired.

This is going to give us much more flow and ease to go back to see when that pump was maintenance as he mentioned. But I truly believe the ease of work, the ease of use is much much better for this and also the response I mean when you have questions, we saw the their overall response time uh when you make a call in, they will respond within 15 minutes. That's that's much better than what we're currently getting now. And also being to transfer new lines onto this system, we'd be able to do that in-house. But right now, we would have to send that out quarterly. And of course, the big bonus to this is we're getting this better package for less money per year. So. [clears throat] What is the overall savings? About $2,000.

About $2,000 a year. Uh before we get too excited, I might want to add another module to this for backflow prevention. But again, first things first, we need to get in with council and uh our new manager decides to go this way, we we can talk to him about different modules to add onto this. You said when you call current with this new one, you call it be 15 minutes. 15 minutes for them to respond to what?

said any questions if if we have a a system that we're not getting to work well or we don't understand it or we've lost it in training, you know, cuz the first time you train everybody, you know, we we like to think we can remember everything completely, but their average response time is 15 minutes from the time we place a call to them to answer any questions. So, it's not like we're using it's not that we have a problem with say locating a line that we have to call them. It'll we can just go on the computer and find where the line is. Okay.

Yeah, but if we if we have some data entry, we can't pull something out or it's not taking the information as we want it and it needs to be structured, we can call them and and one of the key things they really made us aware of was how attentive they're going to be to to us and how quickly they get back to answer questions. Now, how does this data, like where the lines are, get into the system because as you said there's maps that show it in different places than where it's really at? We can download a lot of the information we have and that'll help us build it. So, we already have shape files loaded into our current GIS layer and I work. I I think it's lacking. The I work's program is lacking in the GIS where this IM GIS really it seems like it's going to be a lot better fit for us, but we'll just have to switch over that shape file, send it over, they upload it, and then the problem with I work that we ran into is we can only get quarterly updates with our GIS. So, and if So, let's say we have a development go in, we send them shape files, let's say it's shortly after that quarterly update we just did, we have to wait another quarter for them to update that information. And then um with with this program, we can just we can update all that on our end. We don't have to rely on IM GIS to enter our points, to create lines. That's all built into the software. Are they saying the software's going to do an overnight run to do the updates? Is that what it Is that what they're doing? As far as the the initial transfer over or

No, like it So, you got you got to do a new development update instead of doing it quarterly, or they just going to every night it's going to reconcile itself to make sure whatever updates you push? off to them and upload it. So, where It's either or. So, our staff are going to be the ones to input the data initially or is that part of that 4,000 fee? files to them and they'll be input. Okay. There's normally a $4,000 setup fee. They decided to waive that. Okay. They waived I see on here on their website they do community requests. Would that be something that we would allow them to do? What was it? Community requests where community members can submit requests through their phone or your website?

It's an add-on. It's possible. That's not one that I've used in the past, but we certainly could consider it. It says it does potholes, roadkill that people can go in there and does yeah, potholes, roadkill, sign repair, and much more. That's input. One of the keys in the past my staff had Surface Pros or iPads that they could carry. Mhm. And we would make the changes in the field. And of course their supervisor would have to approve that those changes are appropriate and accurate before it would be downloaded into the system. But it was amazing. If you trust the guys, they'll build it every day. They'll make changes. And as everybody understands, the city's undergoing great changes. If you're ever going to get a system started, now's the time to do it. [clears throat]

So, as those changes occur, we can download that new information. So, going back on the work order thing, Jack, how do we do the work orders now? Well, currently there's a call comes in to the office. The office creates a work order in IWorx and then ships it out either to water, sewer, or street. Is the way it currently Define for me ships it out. Um goes through an email Okay. process to each department through IWorx. Okay. So, let's fast forward to this program. I saw its work order infrastructure here. Okay? And the way it's built. A lot of the ones that I'm familiar with, and again on the property management side, when we do when we do work orders, those can be actually done mobile through their mobile app. So, if our staff is carrying phones and stuff. When that work order is completed, they just say work order is completed and then it comes to you Jack and says okay, it's approved cuz it's completed. Are we doing that now in this system in Iworks? Okay. So and this would have that same capability.

Yeah, approved completed except that is happening up in the office. After our people complete it with all the pertinent information [clears throat] then Shelly actually puts work order you know the work order is completed and then it's removed from the system. Okay. Any other questions? There's an ask in here I'm assuming or like does he need any

that you allow us to make this transition from the Iworks to IMG IS. My question is do you need our permission or is this a city manager function with staff? I would consider a city manager function but out of respect and making a city big change and saving us money, I want to take the opportunity to ask. I appreciate you asking. I think it's a city manager function. If you guys have support of it, I could be supportive of it. I do have a million and one questions cuz this is my world. You guys are able to put in information and points of data like all of you know how to do it. We're going to buy some additional equipment. No, there there there will be levels. Yeah, yeah. You got different administrators and everything. You know you know they're up to data entry level.

Okay. So not not everybody will have that control talk about. Yeah, cuz it it takes a lot to maintain that thing and build it and everything else that have a plan. Just don't go in there willy-nilly especially on the facility side of things. Um Right. So so what you're saying is correct. Not all staff will have the ability All staff will have the ability to view. Yeah. But not all staff will be have the ability to change or add or subtract.

admin roles for the administrative roles? Yeah. Mr. Sheridan, will you be then coming to ask cuz I would assume at some point in time either some kind of handheld device, tablet, phone that I would expect that to take place at some point in the future, yes. Right. So that'll be a future ask once you get this in here cuz they're going to need it. Without it, it's useless.

running and we know what else we need to make it more efficient. But we do have iPads and stuff like that that we could possibly use already. We have two [clears throat] iPads that we use constantly for meter repair through the Zener network. We have Zener meters and transmitters. So the majority of the staff is familiar with working that on on the Zener program. Now those are kind of dedicated to that. So I would tell you we would still need new or updated iPads for the workers to take out with them to do the work orders. Okay. They're not terribly expensive, but you're going to have to purchase some.

Given that we're reducing the price there shouldn't have to be any new appropriations for this. There should be enough in the budget to handle There's not? There's no, there should not be any Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Is this a GIS company that's doing asset management and work orders or is this a They're a GIS company that's expanded into these other areas to serve the needs of municipalities. So

founded in Indiana, but they're now headquartered in Texas. The president lives in Minnesota. He actually made the presentation to us. So GIS is all shape file and everything. Pretty straightforward technology today that Have you guys dug into the work order part of it? Like you're happy with it? Well, our our initial demonstration looked very good to us. Okay. Obviously, we we will have a together sit down meeting before we make you know, the change to to vet any and all questions.

Yeah. Last comment I'm going to say is at some point time when you get all this done, I know on the work order system, there's data and reports that you guys are going to dig out. I'm going to look for that data and metrics, you know, to how are we doing? Cuz that's ultimately what it's all about. Thank you for sharing. provide you a lot of information as you make decisions going forward about Yeah. Well, it's it's really your guys' decisions, but I just want to see

but you have the you have the checkbook, so Yeah. Yeah. Well. We'll we'll follow our budget, certainly. Yeah. The point is, the more you know about what we're doing, the better for everybody. Sure. Thanks for sharing. Yeah. I just have one more. We've heard all the great things about it. For you guys that are deeply involved with it, what don't you like about it? So far, everything checks the box to be a stronger and easier use system than what we're currently using. Of course, that is a great question 6 months in. I I may have a better answer for you. The world I live in, I software's a big thing for us and and in all shapes capacities, the big the big setup fees and then we weigh those and, you know, everybody in that field, they that's what they do to sell. So, the reason I asked that question, if you found something that you didn't like, ask for it now because once you're in the 5-year, you're not going to get it. That's my two cents. Yes. Good advice. Cuz once they got you in the contract, you're done.

[clears throat] Anyone else? I just want to say thank you for for doing the homework and due diligence. Wanted to save us $4,000 on the initial and then also the the yearly expense and for a better product. So, kudos to you guys for for digging and doing the homework on it. Thank you for

we appreciate their help and we'll execute the contract and we'll start working through the process. Sounds good. Awesome. Okay. Anybody else have anything? Good. Okay. Moving on. Uh Council Committee reports, Design Review Board met on uh April 28th, 2026. The next meeting is May 12th. I don't know if we have anyone here to update. Do you Do you have anything from Teresa to update on Design Review? No, I don't know. Yeah, I don't think we have anyone to give an update. Um Planning and Zoning met on same day, 4/28/26. Next meeting is uh May 12th, 2026 at 6:30 in Council Chambers. Kyle, do you have anything? We had a variance that was granted to the Granville Mill for parking. That That way they don't have to parking for their drive-thru. That's it? That was it. It was a quick meeting.

a quick meeting. It was 5 minutes. Oh, Mark's here. I should have made him get it back up. It was 5 minutes. Mark called it before we got up there. Okay, good. Uh Finance, next meeting is May 19th, 2026 uh 5:30 Council Chambers. Rules um was supposed to meet tonight. That was canceled. I don't know if it's been rescheduled yet.

rescheduled yet. I'm going to reach out to uh Councilman Green and Councilman Barnard and try to put that um if it fits in um right before the next Finance meeting on the 19th at 5:00 p.m. Or we can actually do it earlier. Um I'll try to make my work schedule work around. I apologize. I got up with work stuff and I know Councilman Green got caught up with stuff today. So, was deemed necessary to cancel, unfortunately.

Sure. It's okay. Uh Safety and Service, next meeting is June 2nd at 5:30 in Council Chambers. Uh Greater Person Wreck, I believe had a meeting. Yeah, they we just discussed um the you know, proceeds with the fireworks. Um basically just an insurance policy was decided on. Still talking about website and their survey creation and then their event Art in the Park, which is July 25th. So, we're just moving forward. Cool. Oh, did did the part about with Jeff get taken care of? I don't I don't know. Did she get contacted Jeff? Uh yeah, and I Okay, I just want to make sure. And she did.

She did reach out, and her and I had a great conversation, and uh Okay, yep. Great. Uh director reports, service department, Mr. Leggett. Okay, um to start with, are there any questions over water, sewer, and street? Yes, sir. Um when do have they been or will pothole filling commence? We have been with the two people that we have available. Today, we had no one available. Um we had vacation and a call-in sick today. Um but in the manager's report, we got a little bit of good news on that I will cover. So, but they have been working different potholes in different sections, yes. Okay, I appreciate the update. I'm glad to hear that they are doing that. Thank you, Jack. Okay, and into the service director's uh report, I'll I'll just hit on five of these. Number one, water plant update. Uh again, we're having our weekly meetings uh on that. We had some very interesting things happen. Um the divers came in to go down in the clear wells uh to see what condition the valves and walls and and flooring is in that to make sure we don't need any repairs or what repairs. So, we're waiting on the response and the video back from the divers going down in the clear well. Hold on. Very very There's actual divers that go down down the well? Well, yeah, we couldn't empty the clear well, or we can't supply water to the city.

out there? And since we don't have a backup clear well, they came in diving suits. They were disinfected, chlorinated, and then they went down into the system. And took videos and cameras of all the equipment down inside the clear well. It's very interesting. Uh How wide is this well? I'm just picturing a small like how wide is it? Oh, no, the clear well holds 250,000 gallons of water underground, so Okay. It's a good size hatch, and then they got lots of room down in there, but we have different valves to section off going to different pumps, and those were all being reviewed during this upgrade. Okay. Okay, and um also as I've I've told you in the past, we are uh investigating price for the new clear well if we want to add it or not. Uh those discussions will happen uh further next week. Estimation has started on the sludge thickening tanks. Um a lot of activity going on down there right now, and uh the engineers are estimating we're about 10% completion at the uh water plant. Uh jumping down to item number two, uh the EPA uh sent their comments. We have answered the comments back to the EPA on the wastewater treatment facility update. And um uh our PTI has been approved. So, uh later on uh next week, uh going to have discussions with the city manager to see when we want to start to build that plant, whether it's right away, uh how long it's going to take to build the plant. It looks like it's going to be about a 3-year process, so we want to plan that out. To make sure we don't have it built at the time we need it uh when different industries [clears throat] and factories come on. Item number four, leak detection. Only one leak was uh found this month. It was up on Pratt Street. It was dug and

repaired. Um skipping down to item six, we did get the vacant position at the water plant filled. And one of the vacant positions at the sewer or excuse me, street department have been filled. So that should help with bodies and ability to keep up with the mowing and the uh road repair, pothole repair.

Good. Jumping down to number seven, uh micro sealing and crack sealing for Concord Road and Buena Vista Drive is tentatively set for the end of this month. Uh I'm scheduling a meeting because obviously Concord Road particularly you know, we got to get people in and out of the development. So I need to get with them to see if we're going to do half the road at a time. Uh you know, blocking off a section so everybody has to come in and out of the front section of Concord and then we'll move to the front or we're going to do a one road situation. The micro seal or one lane situation with flagging. So micro seal dries and goes down pretty quickly. Now what this will do is fill all the cracks and crevices in that road and then put a wearing course on top of it. We're going to do that both at Buena Vista and Concord Road. The obvious question I get for that is they're saying, "Well, those are a couple of the better roads we have in the city. Why are we messing with those?" Because we're putting we're filling these cracks keep water from going down in those cracks and freezing in the winter and destroying that road. And also the micro seal on top is a running course. So we're trying to keep the roads that are in good shape at a much lower cost than a repair of a of a road or mill and fill on a road to keep those roads in a quality shape and not falling apart. So that I know it's a tough thing cuz we have roads that are in rough condition, but also if we don't maintain the roads that are in good condition, they will soon deteriorate. Are there any questions? I have one. Yes, sir. Uh I know last year when we talked, when they do the intersection at Leafy Dell Road and and do that intersection, wasn't is Leafy Dell Road going to be resurfaced at that same time? I thought it was initially. My understanding from the previous manager, I was not in a lot of those meetings.

But Councilman Chuck asked me to investigate that, so I will. Okay. My understanding was that Pershing Drive and all of Leafy Dell Road to the school was to be included in that project, and that was going to be part of the additional amount of fee that we paid. Okay. But I will call the engineer in charge of that project and make sure that that's going to happen. There was also some sidewalk and crosswalk work to be done as part of the city portion on that as well. So I'll I'll make sure what all is happening in in that section. Okay. Anything else? Thank you, Jack. Thank you. Okay, moving on we have uh tabled legislation resolution 2026-19, a resolution authorizing the city manager to execute a lease amendment with the American Legion Post 254. This was originally introduced and tabled on March 3rd of 2026. Does anyone have any comment? So we did get the um the amortization calendar update today. Uh it has not been added to the contract yet or the lease. Um so that's go ahead and send that back to the lawyer and we'll get that to us. So with that, we don't have anything to look at today. I would make a motion to table again until we have the updated contract. I'll second. Uh I'm sorry.

I don't We don't have to make a mo- As long as it's tabled As long as it's tabled, we don't care. Keep on table? Yeah. Okay. So, other than the amortization schedule, the lease is good by our legal and their legal. Other than that, yes. So, couldn't we pass it tonight and add this Unless we want I have a new to see that in the lease and then have our attorneys look at it, too. But, then also, I don't think all of council has seen the end result yet.

Never mind, then. I'm good with it. Okay. Do we want to highlight that lease at this point time? So, that they know that once it comes, we can What do you mean by highlight? Um yeah, only just

of the the the bullet points of Never mind. I'm wa- wasting time. I I just the bullet points of the lease, Donnie, not the legalese of it, but just the the terms, the the conditions, kinds of things that, you know, they want to sublet out for We can do the highlights. Um Um I used somebody on council's 40th birthday coming up that they have to have liability insurance, that we're protected in that sense as with the Legion, cuz they are going to have third-party in there, which we own that property. So, anything that happens, they're going to sue us, too. That's just how our society is to some degree. So, some legal protection there. The they're going to invest in the money to make the building better. We still technically own it, but if we for some reason say we want it, this amortization is this is what we got to pay back of their investment. They up the liability, general liability um coverage on the building since they are making improvements. And that will be reviewed. Right, that will be reviewed instead of so that to make sure that the insurance is appropriate because the value is going to go up. It's been a little bit since we looked at it, but those are a few points.

that. Right, so so some checks and balances in there that weren't in there in the first agreement. Um the commanders here and others that we we spent a lot of time on it. It took a while for us to get there, but I think they're in a good spot and have faith in what we're doing and we have faith in what they're doing and it's and it's a good lease for both, if you will, that keeps them there. Uh cuz we want them there and they want to be there. That's all I got on the highlights. Good job. Kyle, do you know if there was any other additions or subtractions from that lease because I know I sent some stuff to legal on that lease that I had some questions on about a lease in perpetuity such as that has to have an equal opportunity for each party to release themselves from that lease. And that lease was very very one-sided in the release. So I have not seen the updated yet. Okay. But I do not believe that that was included. Okay, cuz I think that's something that definitely has to be addressed before that lease is put through. Okay. Meaning like that it's one-sided that we could get out of it, but they couldn't? That's exactly right. So in the state of Ohio, all leases, whether they're in a commercial or residential space, have to have an equal opportunity for a clause. So the city of Johnstown has a way to say, "Hey, we want our building back." But the American Legion does not have a way in that lease to say we want out of this lease. Now, with that comes some I guess technicalities of what happens if they go and spend money on that building. It's usually a loss for them if they decide hey, some somebody comes in and donates, you know, five acres to the Legion. Hey, we want to build you a new building. Right? So, at that point they're they have to make a decision whether they stay there or leave. And if they leave, the way that lease is written, the way I've seen it, leaves them on the hook for pretty much everything on that lease until the city of Johnstown wants to do something with

the building. Mr. Sheridan, can you reach out to Yaz about that at some point? Um tell him to reference the email from Matt. And And Yaz has all that. I did that all too. I think all of council at the time.

the email now. Yeah, have him include that as a redline so that we can look at it. I'll contact him tomorrow. Anything else? Anybody? Okay. Uh public hearings of legislation ordinance 04-2026 an ordinance to amend chapter 1159 of the city's codified ordinances. Uh the introduction and public hearing was held on April 21st. Um I believe we'll open for public comment first if anyone has anything. Anyone? Bueller? Council? Yes. And regarding the email Yaz sent out or Okay, I'll just go with Yaz. I can't say his last name. If if we're wanting to do the NCA, if we pass it, it handcuffs us with the NCA in the future. Well, also in the email it seemed like I don't know if the NCA is the best route with it. There could be other options.

Right. So, I We need to explore them. Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up cuz I was thinking that what might be good is once we get this through then have a go-to economic development. Once if we if we put this through tonight, then it handcuffs we can't do a lot of agreements. We can add for future development.

It doesn't If Mr. Chairman, can you speak on this? I can. Uh, Yancey actually contacted me late this afternoon and I apologize I didn't have kind of chance to discuss with the mayor or any of you his comments. To summarize, he suggested it would be tabled tonight and then have some additional information communication between you and him. I just don't want to see us get into something that it cost us hundreds of thousands of dollars in the future where we might lose out on. Mhm. And I apologize I should have gotten to you before the meeting. I mean, I don't think there's anything wrong with it. It's just what can we do to add that benefit to the city by doing this? I get it. Add the NCA to it? Well, it the NCA has to come from the developer.

So, we need to work that out how that would work if it's NCA or if it's a TIF or what we want to do to it. I still think we can do that after this. That's a text overlay, isn't it? I believe so. So, can still do it.

So, could that be done after the fact? Cuz all we're doing is updating I'm not a We're not right. I don't I don't want to be portrayed in giving you legal advice. Yancey basically suggested there were still some questions that he understood coming from one or more councilmen and thought it made sense to table it until some additional discussion could take place. Mhm. In my opinion, it's a text amendment that hasn't been updated since 1980. We have chewed and chewed and chewed this to death. We've sent it back to planning and zoning. I don't know how many times it's come back. This was the recommendation of planning and zoning. I agree with it, so I'm going to make a motion to pass ordinance 04-2026 as written. I'll second it. So I have a motion from Mayor Hollis and then a second from Jeff Barr. Um Yes. Donny Ben Marr? No. Mayor Hollis? Yes. Kyle Cook? Yes. And Jeff Barr? Yes. And Ocean? No. Motion passes. And introduction of legislation, we have none. Uh other business? Mr. Huggins, have anything? I do not have any other business tonight. Uh Donny? Yes. Let me find it. Um I'd like to recognize uh Bryson Nicely. He will be going leaving for Parris Island on May 26th to join the Marine Corps. I think it's always good to recognize our young men and women who decide to leave to go into the service. Um so he's graduating leaving I believe the next day for the Marines, so. Very cool. That's fitting for military appreciation

month. Um Mr. Cook? I had uh sent out a text uh about QR codes and getting information out to the local community. What were your thoughts on that? Anybody have any questions or Did you read it? Did you [clears throat] read the text? Was I So the idea is that we have a hard time reaching the community with what's going on, you know, updates. Um you know, road that might be closed on one side, things like that. How long a project's going to last. Um [clears throat]

if we put together landing page that basically was just specific buttons or bullet points, most of the heavy lifting will already be done on the back end because the buttons can direct them to where it already exists on our website. But it'd also be nice on there to have updates at the top, like emergency updates, things like that. Um and we could put those QR codes in businesses that agree to do it. So, at checkout counters as well as waiting rooms. Um I think it would be not a lot of cost for us. Um if that's something everybody would want to look into or do, we can have staff look into what that looks like. I think it's a great idea. I do like the idea, Kyle. I mean I think we're limited on the ways we can communicate and I think it's a great idea. Okay. Definitely worth The cool Any any any great form of communication is definitely needed all the way around. Perfect. Okay. Donny, any objections?

Uh-uh. Cool. All right. Well, we'll further the discussion then. I don't know if it's going to work or not. Okay. Anything else? Nope. Mr. Barr? Um the third grading period in middle school and high school, I just want to recognize all of the children, young people that are on those uh honor roll, merit roll, and principal's roll, including one young man in my home. So, I just want to congratulate all those uh students. What exactly was his grade card? Uh he he makes the uh principal's. Is that all A's? Principal's?

All A's? Yeah, the principal's. So, they all those kids put the effort into it. They should be recognized They're recognized through the school as well, but And that's a good point because they're involved in so much. It's not just, you know, students. They're They're doing a lot of stuff. So. Congratulations to all of them. Yes. Congratulations. Anything else for you? That's all. Thank you. Ashok? Um yeah, I'd like to congratulate the Johnson High School band, um concert band. They received an excellent rating at state um this past weekend and symphonic band, um they have received [clears throat] a superior rating um at state as well. And this Saturday is prom for our high school, so I'm wishing them a very safe and fun prom. Okay. Real quick random note, she just mentioned band, this made me think of something. From a historical society perspective, we were asked if there was access to a vinyl that was made in the 70s by the Johnstown band. Now, I have not heard of it. Um I guess whoever's listening, Mr. Meacham, does not know about it. Uh he was a band director around that time, but if anybody has any information, we would love to have it. Check your basements. Yeah. It's got to be there. Somewhere. Do you have anything else, Nicole? I don't, thank you. Okay. Uh the only thing I have is um working the the traffic on 62. Obviously, there's issues, down to one lane due to the the electrical work that's going on. So, I have um today been in contact with the city of New Albany and um we're working with the work permit holder of the project to see if we can try to mitigate the impact on morning rush hour and afternoon rush hour um as quickly as possible. And um also with the fire department just to make sure

that we're maintaining communication for emergency vehicles to have a way in and out. Um as more projects come online, we obviously need to make sure that we're um keeping an eye on response times, whether it's our guys or whether it's the township guys um so just know that we are working towards it and and trying to come up with a good solution for that. It's the only thing I had. Does anyone have anything else? No. Good. Mr. Sheridan? Nothing? Uh I do. So, next week is police week. Yes. Um I would like to thank the officers of my department and the men and women that serve this community uh and those that serve in this county and this nation. Um I'd also like to thank police wives. Uh they put together meals for us all next week. Um they spend a lot of their time and their money to arrange that and I'd like to thank them for that. Uh tonight we have Light Ohio Blue coming through our community. Uh it's a caravan through central Ohio. Uh there will also be another one on Friday evening. I wasn't able to be in attendance cuz I had to be at this meeting. So, you said Friday night? This Friday night at what time? This Friday night uh information will go out.

Uh information will go out when you receive it just like late last week. Oh, okay. Uh so, it'll be the Licking County caravan. Um so, just wanted to let the council know. Okay. Next time, skip this and go to that. Yeah. Uh four of my four representatives from my police department that were at the event. Good. Yes. Still, it would've been nice for you to be there. Yeah, that's okay.

yeah. I had my obligations. My priorities. Uh anyone else have anything? Anyone? Motion to adjourn. I'll second. Kyle seconded. Call roll, yep. Or you can say all in favor. All in favor. All in favor. Aye. Aye. All those Motion passed. I didn't mean to walk on your extra there. When you had say a band, I think

Mhm.