Board of Zoning Appeal & Regional Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

I've got 604 time. So I'll call this meeting of Jefferson County Board is only failed to order. And if you all would uh please join me for a word of prayer started on that. Dear heavenly father, we come to you thanking you for another day of life, dear God, and just the health and the ability that you give each one of us to to be able to to go and do today, Lord. And I I pray that that you're pleased with how we've done it to this point. And as we come together tonight to discuss the the business of Jefferson County, our board of zoning appeals and our planning commission. Dear God, I just pray that you would guide our thoughts, our words, our actions. Dear God, that everything that we do will be pleasing to you. I ask you to watch over our county leaders, Lord. Ask you watch over our state leaders and our nation, dear God, at this troubling time. And I just pray, Lord, that you have you willing to wait and everything that's done. And I ask these things, Lord, that you give thanks in Christ Jesus precious name.

Amen.

Attention. Salute. Pledge. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay. Sorry. Okay. We do have a for president out a couple but we still have enough business and I trust that you receive your packets and look at the November minutes and if there's no corrections or changes to those I entertain a motion to approve.

Mr. Chairman I move the minutes. We have a proper motion second. Any discussion on that? Being none, all those in favor of approve November saying I.

I. Motion passes. Go to citizens input. And I've got some uh citizen input handed to me here late. So, I'm just going to I've got the address of 1542 down Valley Road and I think it's Lee. I don't want to mispronounce the last name. Are you here for something on the floor? That would be a C. S E. Okay. C. Yes. You're here with planning commission, correct? Yes.

Okay. I'm going to go through these just to make sure we get to the right thing. Uh Brad Tumi, Brad, are you here? Planning Commissioner.

Planning Commission. And uh Michael Sheila Wilson, that's BZA Trail. That's my commission. And I've got a couple here. Uh Danny Seal. Danny, you you in here with Yes, I'm here. Okay. Is yours a cold road? Yes, sir. Okay. And then I've got Lisa W. Hello. Yours road. Okay. The way these will work for the co road since that's not an agenda item this month, we'll take the citizens input for at the end of the meeting once the other business on the agenda has been done. Okay. Just want to let you know you been overlooked, but that's that's the power. Okay. So we'll go to Sheila Wilson if you would come to the podium if we have ample tonight. We will try to please

just give your name. So, we are Mike and Sheila Wilson and our address is 135 Dear Chase Trail in Dandridge. And um we did fill out the form to get on the agenda about the variance request, but there's been one little change that we'd like to throw in. Um after we had our surveyor come out and lay out the pins where the house is going to go, um our house or our land is pretty level at the top of our property closer to the road and then it starts cutting it starts dropping off pretty steeply. So the way that the house is sitting out because of an angle garage is that it's going to be too far down over the hill into the steeper area. And actually the guy that did our clearing of our land and our even our subject system in is also afraid that we're going to get into our subject system. So we kind of all brainstormed together with the project manager from our house company and decided that if we could get um the setback to be 25t from the back of the curb then we would be in good shape to be able to do it with less cost not worrying about our subject system. Okay. So, you're asking for and we will go over this when it's actually the agenda item, but you're asking for the set back instead of being 8.8 ft to be 25 ft.

It Well, it's kind of confusing because the way that this is written, the 8.8 um is from our property line. See, the properties were laid out before the road was there. So, our property doesn't go up and touch the road. It's quite a few feet back from it. So, if we measure from the back of the curb to where our property begins, it's 25 foot. And so, we would be right at our property. Okay. Well, thank you for clearing that up. Sure. And when we get there on the agenda, we'll go through this. Okay. Okay. So, that's all you need, right? Right now. Come back. Thank you. Thank you.

Okay. No more citizen vote for BTA. So we'll move on down the agenda to item six varian request 828 for front setback is 2472 front porch edition of existing house located at 751 plane view drive markers subdivision block 23 you would step this. So Ryan Angela 751 drive and I'm just asking for a variance for a front porch and Stephanie in that area this is a common been a common request throughout several

that's correct so you here does anyone on the on the board have a questions with this one. Okay, being none. Mr. Chairman, I would move that we approve this variance request of 8.2 for the front step back on the front porch.

Okay, we have a proper motion. Do we have a second? So have a second. Is there any further discussion on this? None. All those in favor of granting the 8.28 ft say. Okay. Moving on down. Next item request 21.2 ft for setback 8.8 8 ft for new house construction at 135 deer chase for Lakewood Estate subdivision lot 16 you all would step back and I'm going to ask if you don't mind one more time to go through what you just did in all understand okay so our property doesn't touch the road we're we're quite a few feet off of it the way that property will say yeah. So what we're asking is if we can be 25 foot back from the back edge of the curve that's right at the road. So the only thing that's on our side of the road is a light road that runs through there. It's a development road and most of the other utilities and things are on the other side. So we figure 25 ft is pretty pretty good space if there has to be any kind of you know right away there for the utilities.

That should be sufficient. Okay. On that question. Yes. So you can't measure the setback from the edge of pavement. You can only measure the setback variance from the edge which I'm assum. So you're asking for

well 25 from the curb. So if you're saying it has to be the property line, right? It's your it has nothing to do with Okay. Uh it's from your property. Okay. That's where the setback is measured. Okay. Then it's just going to be five.

One other thing that I just want to put you on notice of. Um here's this lot. See it says Mountain Castle Lane and this says Deer Chase. that was developed in the 70s actually 1972. So a lot of road names changed when 911 came in 911. So that's the original

and that um well this is this is the original plat name or I'm Tennessee my concern is that Tennessee property here but 911 is a state operated. This is a state website. So, I was kind of concerned that a disparity like that could cause a security safety issue. You might just want to check with 911. Well, 911's what gave us that address. The the 135 chase. We had it established. It was actually when the property was listed and we bought it. It was listed as Cherry Brook.

Oh, Cherry Brook is back. The back, right? That is

Yeah. But All the other houses beside us, they all access in from Cherry. We're at the top and we come in off your chase. Do do we have any questions for these folks?

I do have one. Um, you mentioned your drain field. Where where is the drain field in relation to that stuff? Um, it's back in I I couldn't tell you the exact distance, but it's back behind where the house is planned to go. It's Yeah, down the hill sometime. Okay. And I do have a question. Have you considered just flipping the floor plan? We actually are trying to get that done right now, but but yes, I think that,

but it won't totally solve it. So, we're we're asking for that, too. But if we can get that extra little bit of space there on the variance request, I think we will be exactly where we need to be to not worry about our suffering. Any further questions? How many motions are we? We have a second. Is there any further discussion? Being none, all those in favor set back and the footage again you're talking about the finish of the property.

I believe that's 5 foot. Is that right?

5 foot. I'm sorry. The house itself will just a corner of the garage. Just a corner of the house. It's just Well, I've got it in here. Yeah. Well, that's the Yeah. So, it's the corner of the house. The way the garage is.

The house is going to be about We have a motion to motion 45 off. Okay, we have motion. Do we have a second motion? A second.

Second. All those in favor of the amending the original motion. Say I motion passes. Now we have a new motion. The amended motion. Do I have a second? I'll second. We have a second foot variance for the property. Any further discussion? All those in favor of hearing a 45. All

thanks. Okay, that's all the we have here. So I enter here. Yes. Yes.

Mr. Chairman, I move to second. Okay. At this time, I will call to order this meeting of the Egyptian Canada. I proceed package any so Mr. Second motion second discussion being none. All those in favor say I.

I Fox here. Good evening. Jim, how travel. Um, I was going to talk for a second about BWXT, which is not a radio station. It is a company that creates that makes all the need for fuel for the US. Uh they have 150 acre piece of property in Washington County just outside of Jonesboro uh that they are wanting to use to store depleted uranium w. And you know, we use uh Washington County a lot as an example of what bar codes and zoning should be and they honest and they don't have the zoning that that addresses that. So BWC actually went and asked for zoning for zoning to be reszoned so that they could do that. Uh there were concerns about creeks, there were concerns about lake uh not lakes but uh wells and etc. uh obviously this would be an increased security risk for them as far as theft or terrorism or whatnot. So I would and this is happening in our backyard. So I would encourage this commission to uh to

address this and create some zoning that will protect us from uh not only nuclear waste but any sort of hazardous waste being stored here. Um and even the US government is starting to encourage and fund uh counties and uh across the country to uh to begin storing this for uh there's I mean the obvious reason is for store there versus Oakidge or or Nevada which has the places for that is cost savings and again they were they had to uh deal with 8 hours community citizens input. They had to rent two courtrooms. Um and ultimately it was denied that BWSD went ahead and says, "Well, I think we think we can do it with the zoning of God, so we're going to go ahead and do it anyway." And so I would strongly consider this commission to come up with some resolutions and amendments through our zoning to address this issue so that we don't have this happening in our county. And like I said, this happened sadly.

Thank you.

I was going to say that. Yeah. Jim, just being here to Catherine, she got something she'd like to to um so I retired from the city of Oakidge. I still live there. Uh I actually created all the zone districts for uh DOE. Um BWC is a contractor. They will not own the land. The department of energy will own the land. There is a uh uh business that I mean not called nuclear fuel. Yes.

And the Iranian is coming from their production. Uh and it is a DOE facility. Um as far as the federal government, they're exempt from local. Um it doesn't excuse them and it doesn't mean that you shouldn't have 8 hours comments etc etc. It sounds like they are going outside. They have the exact same facility in Oakidge, but it's on 53,000 acre reserve. Um but um you can do hazardous waste and you can kick in with that but it's it really is nobody deals with waste except federal government and so uh they are exempt but there are plenty of other bad things. So I think that that's something that should be referred to your new working group. Yes, I do. Uh but this probably should be addressed sooner than later.

Uh obviously the working group and I've attended those meetings and they're doing a fine job. I've been really impressed with especially today some of the direction that was taken especially with the A1 stuff. But my concern is that getting that getting through the work and getting that all the new resolutions could be time consuming and understandably so. Uh but this situation I think is something we need to address sooner than later. Uh it's amazing how many other hazardous materials are out there. Yes. that are talked about

and this is just the tip of the iceberg and so uh I just think that we should should address that. Uh most of my information come from news articles and what that sort of thing and BWXT did not address or advertise that this was department of property. They made it sound as if this was their property. So even the Y2 condition plant is operated and managed by BWXT, but they don't own any any property. They even lease their offices in our so um um I think that that's something just as we put on our list.

What you're telling me to to protect us from other sources if they're involved.

Um that's true. Even um now there are other private businesses that do deal with it's usually spent or contaminated like you use a pair of gloves that those gloves are contaminated but but also most people don't realize you get an X-ray for your teeth that's contaminated. And so there are private entities that are out there that are doing that kind of work, but when it's disposed of, it goes on a DOE facility or a DOE landfill. Uh and um you're right, I would rather see them out west uh where it's dry, but um they are uh nuclear fuels in Irwin has been there forever. It's a new facility. um overage, you know, the Manhattan projects been there since uh World War II, right?

And um there are some things you can control there, but the vast majority, but that doesn't mean that there aren't other hazardous materials to identify and have a place included in a process. So Stephanie can put that on. Yeah. I just hope that addressed before sooner than later. that the working group. Thank you. Thank you for your time.

I want to apologize if I look like I'm squirming or shifting up here. I don't I'm not doing that nervousness. I've got a hip that's giving me some trouble and I'm just trying to get stand up. That's what's going on. Well, thanks to Mr. Brad.

That always keeps happening when we get older. It breaks.

Uh Brad Tumi, Caroline Gordon, Talbert. Um I'm here about resolution 2603, uh the solar wind power. Um, this is really just a a language question I have just in the way the resolution is written. It might be a law of unintended consequences, but um, and I understand I think what the resolution is trying to do. You know, I I don't want my pasture and my neighbor's pastures turned into solar fields as they look out there. I think that's the intent. I agree with that intent. But the way it's I think wording is that you're taking out the ability of homeowners in the county, especially on zone 81 or some of the other zones that might have solar power on their house to be able to engage with AC or TVA to sell the power back. That's at least because I'm getting accessory use as power used on the property. and some of us at solar even though it's cheap and there's no net metering intensity um you know we have we do have an agreement to be able to sell some of that back at a couple cents a kilowatt hour. So, I just want to bring that up. I just the way I read it and the way I thought about it, that accessory use only language, the way it's you're taking principle out. I just want to make sure that doesn't affect us. That's all.

Thank you. Great.

Yep. Okay. Uh see and yeah sir Steve 1542 I'm assuming I don't know but I'm assuming it's because obviously for we I guess originally the property was on a address the property was already divided. We were told but then I guess it never got reported to county soon. So we had uh you had to do the reser uh survey again. So now on that lot we're trying to put three homes. So track one, two and three they will be home on on those three track and track four be in the back. It will just be there. Nothing on it. So the first three track homes on it. Now the main thing is we try to divide those three locks.

Okay. I just we're right now at the citizens input part. Oh, when we get to your item on the agenda, of course, you filled out paper first in definitely when you opportunity to speak, but if you want to speak specifically to that, when we get on the agenda, we'll get you come back up. Okay. But you were just here to lost if I don't need to come up here again.

Okay, that is all the planning commission. We'll move on with new business. The first item is item A preliminary plat approval for 11 lots out the new road new market by real estate by real estate. We have sir Jeffrey money 73375 sir I think had a concern that let you address So this is your conceptual plan. Um and I did I did have some concerns. This was by Mr. Survey.

No survey is not

okay. Um so um there's a number of items that aren't on the plat. Okay. Um Um, so this is this is a subdivision that is significant in that this is a major subdivision. You will be asking for uh approval of a road. You will be constructing a road and I anticipate that you're going to request the Jefferson County to accept that road and own it and maintain it.

Yes. Uh that probably also includes a water line. Yes, ma'am. Okay. No sewer. No. No sewer.

Okay. So um the comments are uh that one is redundant and uh uh initially it said setbacks meet for zone rags. Uh you have them referenced at the top. So that explains to any builders what that is. So I just said delete uh item note one. Um no information provided for lot one and two. Uh if they are over 5 acres, that's okay. But if they are not over 5 acres, you do have to include them and you have to include them in your subdivision and all uh regulations would apply to them. Do you know if they're over five acres?

No, they're not. Yeah. Is it recorded? It is recorded. Yes. Um, okay. Then we can take that one off. Um, no plans are provided for utility services. So, and it's actually I just want to ask about those. They shouldn't be here at this point. Uh, but you're going to do a public road, uh, electrical service and public water. Yes, ma'am.

No sewing. Okay. Now I may be using I may be putting wheels in but more than I don't know yet.

Okay. Uh well this is the point to to ask these questions. Uh the proposed street name is absent. That is McGee Road, but I also tell you McGee Road goes all out and it is not you got some public right away, but it is sub standard as far as what we're looking for here. Um, so if this document were to be approved, your next step, and this is just notice, you would have to bring um construction drawings for the roadway and all the utilities sealed by a licensed engineer to this body and have those approved before your next step. Um the extension of McGee Road to the newly constructed roadway does not meet intersection requirements and as I understand it McGee Road is substandard with regard to width of current rideway. It is not an approved road. Now I think

yes we have the Mr. Joe Patterson with us superintendent. Joe is taking a look at this and he has some concerns about Are you currently maintaining? Yeah. You do? Yeah. It's just there's no right away. It's 10 foot wide. I went there today and they had a four parking side. Had a mailbox like never got through. So there's no way that go can take and the only way that I've ever seen done is they'd have to go any cave and wide it all the way to their southern region and make it count space. And

do you know what your feet of distance is? What's your distance from our part is three 3.3 or 3.33 t of a mile where they're at is probably around 210 of a mile and with no right away or nothing they going to have to get everybody to either buy it from the people in order to build the group to their sub and I talked to a couple down there and I think you got no hope that you can

Oh you come here for this and I'll deal with the rest. So um you don't have a prescribed easement that you that has been recognized there 10 foot no right away 10T easement that's for road and if it's an easement that means there is underlying title holders. Yes to even the 10 foot

it had to be built 24T from any cave all the way to the Um that's um so that is at this point until you resolve if you want to take that on. Um in the subdivision regulation when I um pulled up this section it's titled it's under title um it's on page 17 in the old Well, this is it still works. Uh there's an item called suitability of land. So the land has to be uh timed appropriately for road extension. It sounds like that hasn't been done. So the land as it stands is not suitable for subdivision. But if you want to pursue bring it up to standards by acquiring right away and you know I'll say this a lot of folks if you were going to do that um everybody likes to have a new road in front of their house. It makes it makes it probably more valable.

Yeah cuz this road is the it's I don't know who's keeping it up but I've seen the gravel road better. sounds like super but um

so as it stands it cannot handle uh 13 more additional lots but in the event that you can um go and talk to those individuals acquire rideway you would have had equipment out here anyway. So, it's a it's a incidental. It's not a full on cost. That may be something you can manage. Um quite frankly, you would probably pass that cost along to your uh 13 new property owners out here. That's how it works.

And um but as it stands now, I think it's um the property is not suitable based on this clause of being ready for development of additional Yeah. cars on it. And usually trip generation for single family here is like nine trips a day. That's 9 by3. So that's the additional individuals traveling on that road that it would be set to standard. But that takes action by

Yes, it does. So you ask

you can table it,

Mr. Chairman. To my understanding uh this preliminary plaque does not meet our standards to the road access. Um so for that uh reason I move to uh deny I

we have the proper motion do we have a second any further discussion being none all those in favor of denying it approval say I pass thank you Okay. Thank you. Okay. Next item on the agenda is final fact approval for three lots of West N Ca Melinda C and C. Kevin, I think you had the Hey, I think you want to discuss this one as well.

Um yeah, it's um you got three uh track one, track two, and track three. Track two is a flag law, which is good sign. Um so, uh I have a list of comments, um which your surveyor can make often. Um you need to reference the building setback requirements based on your designation. uh information. Is this going to be well water or is this going to be uh water? I don't think you're going to get you're not Are they going to be well? No.

You're So water. Right. Okay. That needs to be shown on here. So, um um uh the signature block from the county road superintendent was amended.

Oh, good. Okay. the original. Yes, we do. So, was this a plat that was present? Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. So, Yeah, it sounds like uh so I'll read this off again. It's public water utilities. Uh block for county road superintendent signature block for utility. Uh step back information for overhead utility line. Yeah, I think it was surific.

Yeah, if it's an overhead electric, if it's if it's on lot one, you don't need to worry about it. If it's on lot one, it's lot two. You got to have I've heard people say and there's even setbacks based on

then that's fine. I would think that and then there's a drain adjust. Oh, yeah. Okay.

Okay. Well, it sounds like they've addressed

it. All of this concerns have been accounted for and been taken care of. Do we have any questions? Being none, what's the board? Motion to approve. We have prop second. Second discussion. None. All in favor of the final flat for three lots on I need Thank you. Yes.

Next item on the agenda, C final plan approval for three lots on Creek Road by Sharon Chester. Miss Chester, you here? Miss Chester's not here. We're going to reach out to her tomorrow. I spoke to Miss L. I don't know why she didn't.

Mr. Chairman, I move to table item C to the March meeting. We have problems. We have a second discussion. All in favor of March again say I

Okay, final CL approval for three lots in the Lake Haven subdivision lots 14 141 141R 142R 143R Josh sir So, thank you Josh Park Lake Cabin Resort. We're excited for spring to finally get here. Have another great season on Douglas Lake. Um, we're seeking plat approval to adjust lot lines um on three of our lots in phase 3A. This uh is an approved HUD and the initial plat was recorded on 9:30 24. Our infrastructure is complete. As you may recall, we have our own private water and sewer treatment. Um, and our roads are private. So, the infrastructure is complete and our performance bond was released and you guys released it back September of last year. 9112 actually. We're now ready to begin construction on our first set of cabins and we'd like to move three lots further up the hill. Um, just it's just better for toss the difference between a 10ft crawl space and slat wall grade. Um on the the very first one, um we're asking for lot 143 to move within the 30ft peripheral setback to within 11 um.44 ft. Um and this is in keeping with what happened with the original plaque. I have copies of the original plaque here if it's helpful, but if you look at the the three locks, this was only six lots. And so if you look the the the three locks on the other side, there's 10 copies there.

Oh, that was the original.

Yes. So, if you notice lot 138 um in that variance request, it was um actually granted to be within 3 foot of a property line. And um the the uh reasoning behind this when we recorded is I own on both sides of the property. I'm the property owner on both sides of the property. Um and so I'm not going to fight with myself over that. Um and um and so really our cabin's 44 foot wide. It's 24 foot deep with a 12T deck on the back. And so just moving that up so we can be a different source. I spoke with Katherine. She called me back before the January meeting. We were originally for a uh on the BCA agenda, but after looking at things, she didn't feel like we needed to come through VCA. This is something that could just be handled. And what it was is this is a plan to development. So your setback is actually for the lot from the perimeter. If as such you didn't file that set just the lock the person locked around

and I think at the time I sent you the comments um and you may have already corrected them but uh They do memorialize. Hopefully I get this one right. Um, so I'm looking at this one and um the this is a private drive so it needs to have it needs to be titled the res picked up by 911. Um, but he is uh resubdividing. So once that this goes over top for these lots, you don't see this. We need to file something flat that show.

Oh, there it is. Okay. Um, so you have already addressed comments on this one. Okay. So just a note uh front side rear yard setbacks to be on there or you mentioned in note section uh square footage of all the of the three lots it's been provided. Say that again. Uh the square footage of the three lots. Um signature block for water utility overheaded. Signature block for electric people are overheaded. 911 services. Probably the sign that probably hit it, but

yeah. So, I think this is our maybe sixth plat and we've just done it all just like all our others. So, um Sure. I think I Yeah, uh send block 911 and remove statement referring to setbacks. Okay. Uh and your minimum set back to the exterior lot line or perimeter line of your project is the 25T and you more than meet that. Okay. But you stated on the plan.

Uh no that was just that was just a note because at the time he was on the BCA. We've skipped several meetings and Yeah. That snowstorm hit. Yeah. Okay. So, I guess my question is, am I able to can you guys approve it? Pend these changes. Okay. So, I'll get these changes from Carrie. Uh, just to be clear, we're just looking at items 2 through six. Items.

I I would put the the drive on there just because this document gets recorded. So, you don't want question. Where would you put I mean you have Lake Haven way and then that intersects it's on it's actually on this Tennessee yeah I think he submitted at some point you know again

um what I and I what I wanted too was it's label so that any buyers take their real estate agent Um right now that means okay um Mr. Chairman I will move to approve item B contingent upon the six uh

yes contingent upon the uh completion of these six items. It's my understanding when it comes to facility. Oh, so I can sign water. We have a we have a treatment facility and just put a block on. So you're watering. Yes, sir. Yeah, we're state peritted and licensed.

Come see it. So we have proper motion. Uh have a second. Any more discussion on this issue? All those in favor of approving item DO.

I thank you very much. You think that there's one more two. Next item on the agenda is item E. Final F approval for states phase 3 by 17. I think you have an issue.

Um, so couple things. Uh the width of rideway uh Laura B is not provided. Uh signature blocks are not specific regarding utility service with the exception store. Please identify water utility, electric utility and with an associated

Okay. But Um uh it still needs to be approved with these because I think there's an uh um how to what extent has this roadike been completed? Is it through the top? So,

so you're just at a base on top of that. Okay. Um, so this plat if you approve it, and you can approve it, um, can I approve it tonight? Um all uncomplated infrastructure serve these lots. We had to have a form of shy before we record. Uh the shity is for is it on sewer? Is your is it sewer in the dryer? It's on.

Okay. So it's not sewer. Okay. Water line. Is the water line in the ground? Okay. So, we don't have your water in your electric. So, at this point, it's not I was thinking this is what I thought we did. Okay. So, it's listed on here.

Oh, okay.

That makes a big difference. Uh so this is your so you'll have to agenda preliminary. Um and then and I'm sure for preliminary it's fine. Uh have you presented your road plans and had the road sign at this point? All right. Um, okay. First, let's I'll entertain a motion to amend the agenda item.

Okay. Uh, so move, Mr. Chairman. We have a motion. We have a second. Second. Any discussion? All those in favor say I. All passes. Now, item E is a preliminary class approval. Do we have any more questions?

I'm sure for preliminary it's fine. Um, when you want to record the lots and that entitles you to sell them at that point, you have to bond any outstanding infrastructure. So that you got to get an estimate for the improvements and that would be anything that's outstanding including the water line, your electric service uh and the road through the talk. Um or um you can wait till it's all done and record it then. But I'm sorry. I was going to do it all.

You want to do it all report? Well, then you should be fine. But if you if there's anything outstanding, you would have to bond it. And that amount and be sure the amount has to be approved by the planning commission and your county attorney has approved the question. So if we have any other questions we have proper motion contention on the definition I'll second

we have a second discussed being none all those in favor three say I opposed Next item on the agenda is item resolution 20263 amending design resolution flexed uses our zoning district uses I2 district solar energy and wind energy Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Uh the intent of this uh resolution is to put uh any commercial solar wind activity uh into the I2 zone. This will still be uh the intent is to also permit this as an accessory use in all zones. So, restaurants, residences, farms, they want to use uh solar uh to offset energy costs, they still have the right to do that. Um but this is looking at the the big uh they call them solar farms but uh energy

and exactly what was so I think Catherine can speak to this I I don't believe we have in her packet I did look at uh she had emailed us emailed us draft you address that. Are you too? I tell you what, you get started and I'll hover up and let you stop. Okay. Right. You going to squeeze? Yes.

So, um, this one I it was on the agenda for last month and I took a run at it and I decided against it and but I kept my draft. So this time, um, I had I I had that thought, but I went ahead and did this. So when you're doing something in one zone district, you can't leave it unaffected in another district if if there's similar likely. Um, so you want it to be an allowable use in two your industrial site. Yes. That's printable. Yes. Principles and and the commercial. Seems like was it multiple other one?

Uh so just to clarify as a principal use in the I2 zone as an accessory use in all. Okay. So if it is a principal use in your industrial zone, I did want I too and we uh talked about this somewhat today.

When it is a principal use, you're talking about a solar array. uh private entities they'll not do there's a lot of things private entities get into um solar arrays typically have not been one of them um usually that is in utility district or that is TVA or actually there's a huge one on the east land uh and those are the only place I've seen principal one they're also exempt from your zone regulations so I want to warn you it's fine say you can do in only your I2, but you need to recognize that may not stop it in other areas because those government jurisdictions are exempt from zoning. Um, in the areas that it is accessory, which is fine. Uh, you it's currently an accessory use in every zone district you have, which is fine. Uh the gentleman is right in that um uh I I amended it and you can see this that if it's an accessory use currently you have the individual in your zoning order as an accessory use they have to meet the criteria in your commercial site plan procedure and it's a it's a house. It's not going there there it's going on the house. It may tip a different area, but if I'm not mistaken, and I'm not studio, not that familiar with these categories, but if I'm not mistaken, you're sending it through a commercial site plan, which is pretty hefty. It has to be steel, has to be this, has to be that. That's not that's kind of an overreach. What they really do need to do, though, is get a building permit. and the car needs to make sure that they have an electrical

inspection. So when you do solar and you're right, sir, um that the arrays uh are usually go right into the electrical system of the house unless the house is outfitted with a very large battery. So if there's more electricity generated than used, it has to go somewhere. So you can either if you want to keep it for your use, you have to store it in a battery on site. Otherwise, TDA as a regulation, they have to buy it back. So they literally it's it it's kind of like water except you don't have black backflow together. So it literally back feeds onto the grid and you have to have a meter. So TJ has to know what they're either paying you for or giving you a discount for when you do use it.

Athlet Okay. Uh but they are DA governs there. So um so that stuff really really really needs electrical instruction and as I understand you don't have privacy for electrical so you bring in space. Yes. You need to make sure that they have it and they have to have the final inspection. Okay. But regardless of the

I mean if you're going to make an accessory and you're going to make this side you're going to make these other things you're you're stopping before we get to the most important which is making sure it won't burn the house. Okay. Where in the second? It's uh under the um accessories.

Uh it's in this red bleed copy. So um solar energy systems wind energy system.

So that's not in our sheet. You're saying that should be like as a part of this should be well it's it's a it's a change my goal

and those are commercial claimer to be sealed by should be sealed by engineer. Um, so every one of your places where it says it's accessory, it refers into that type and and that's really and where they put it as an accessory on their property is a material,

but I do feel strongly there needs to be something that when they before most people don't install award when they first are building the house. Um, I could be wrong about that. We've got builders that want to address that, but usually it's after the fact. So, how about you, sir? I mean, I don't mind talking a little bit. I'm not a builder, but I'm building my own house. You're building your own house now? Yes. Half and half.

Um, you know, the I don't know how many Considering that's in your zone to disagree, which kind of surprised me, we you really do need to make sure and I'm not sure how to administer that, but that they bring you that electrical inspection authorization. Um, yeah. microphone.

I asked him if he'd be willing to take this back and let the working group look at just a little bit, make the corrections and stuff into what Cath Yes. Uh I would be okay with that. Uh because I did not consider the regulations. Yeah. And it's a name editor accessory and all I have to do to get it to the working group I can just do allations and I'll give you a clean. Okay. So, Mr. Chairman,

I move that um item F be taken to our March. We have a motion and we have a second discussion on item. small

ending accessory that's will be allowed to continue. Um if somebody wants to do it they're perfectly able to. what we're doing is removing the difficult and I'm sure for any that you've gotten you know it pops up sites like Florida so that's another reason to take that out of there um but we might put language in so somehow it can verify that it's been a good topic

it the action because of the electricity flowing back into public lines. That's a really important. You probably know about more about this than I do. But there's ways to do that. We got a motion to say any more discussion. All those in favor. Thank you very much. pass. Next item on the agenda is item G, discussion code, Jefferson County Regional Planning Commission meeting.

Thank you, Mr. Karen. Um, I first introduced this, I guess, in the November meeting. We did not meet in December nor did we meet in January. However, after providing the first draft of meeting rules, I did provide some additional discussion points that will fit on the agenda and I provided you notes to those. I need to to make sure everyone does understand that these rules are not for DCA. This is only for regional. These are media rules. Simply all they are. Um, when I say they're not for PCA, this body does not have the ability to regulate DCA. That has to come from county commission. So, this body cannot make rules and procedures for the board. This body is required by state code to adopt its own rules if conducting business. Here's four. We have not done that. And when I first came on this commission, of course, I started looking for those rules to see what rules and guidelines I would be expected to follow to find them. I consulted with the countyy's attorney, Doug Brennan. He assured me that we had no active rules. He said he could not say there had never been any adopted, but he said in the present time we would not have. So this initial draft that I provided in the November meeting is simply a regurgitation of the rules and procedures for county commission deleting things that were not relevant to this regional planning commission. So that was the original draft. That did not mean that was my recommen recommendation to this body. It just starting point to start looking at adopting rules and procedures. After

that meeting, I went through myself um and looked at things that I thought I would want to change myself without consideration of other members of the commission. I likewise have this initial draft review by our county attorney and I also have the initial draft of meeting rules along with the document package called my discussion points reviewed by the county mayor. The county mayor was fine with everything presented to him. Uh the discussion points that I presented is kind of a combination of things that I would suggest we might consider changing as well as things that Brandon, our county attorney, suggested we might consider changing. So at this point, I know we have all this information in front of you. I'm open to direction of the chairman on how we proceed. We could walk through this in discussion form. We could open the floor for questions, concerns, howeverbody wants to proceed. It is a lot of material.

Yes. Uh I myself David would really like the opportunity to go through this. Sorry. It's my understanding of looking at some other reasons that not all of them have meeting rules for meeting but they have bylaws and that's common practice they don't pass

right and so that's one of the things I'd like to talk with you a little bit about that instead of maybe calling a meeting rules for 80s govern a lot of money and it would be essentially the same thing.

Yeah. Just get a different title. But uh it should be I'd like to have a little bit time to go through it some questions if I have some maybe some other input on it. And we do need to have a a way of doing things properly. And for the time that I've been here, I think this is my opinion, we've done so pretty well. There's an established way that meetings being housed. So I don't want to say yes, we need to ask to do this right now and say that we haven't been doing things right up to this point.

Yeah. For the most part, this is just really the the transcription in the sense of what we are doing. You know, pretty much like I say, took it starting point was the county commission uh procedures and then I tweaked that for what we are doing as we are doing it essentially. Well, that's I myself would like to have more look at it, but I'll open it up to anyone else.

I would like to get some input from the other commissioners just their thoughts. No, not in cut. Yes, sir.

Um, thank you, David, for uh putting this together and presenting it. Um, it is very similar to what county commission works on. I didn't see anything uh much like you've already pointed to, Mr. Chairman. uh we have been kind of self-governing without rules. I think it would be good to put it on paper especially when you think about continuity. I can't imagine this would be the same group of plan commissioners 10 years from now with exception you Mr. Chairman. So I uh I think it would be good not only for for us right now but and Mr. chambers of course uh not only for us right now but uh when new people come on just here you go you're and I think that's kind of what spurred us with Mr. Nelson is uh you get on the table how we conduct ourselves when we have our meetings what we do. Uh so this is a blueprint for that. Um so I I don't think it has to be passed tonight. I would like to see uh I would like to see some action on it soon um like maybe in March or April. So, um, these are just my thoughts on this. Uh, that's where I like motion to table and everything else. I don't I think it's a good idea to have the rules and the regulation that we're going to operate. So, that say motion to put it next month's meeting. Okay, we have motion. We have a second motion.

I'll second. Second. Any further discussion? We haven't put you on the spot. I just like to know what other people think.

And that can that can be called that listed that can be bylaws. Say no bylaws. and uh just we we are here in my understanding to to help the citizens of Jefferson County make it for everyone's best interest. Well,

and that's that's what I want to make sure we don't get so legalistic in how we go about conducting these meetings. we lose sight of what we're here to do. And but again, I I should thank you as often. I appreciate the work you've done on this. I think there's definitely something here that we can we can give

it's a whole thing. Okay. So, in in doing this, I agree. I'll get back through my finals. you don't have any bylaws and you should. Um so um um they're not rules like stuff like that. It's more of um guidelines if you will. Uh oh.

Oh, it's guideline. Um, so, um, I do a lot of bylaws and, um, I just gave a said to No, let's put this work on their bylaws and, uh, I'm on a couple of boards. We have bylaws. Um, so I structured this more along the simplistic way of doing this. And, um, it's more I think you're keeping the state law. So maybe while you're doing this, you might want to consider uh this. This is more standardized. Um one thing that you kind of want to do is keep some continuity between, you know, your rigs and u rigs or Jeff County reg. And I've never seen a set of rules like brought up. um if the county commission I wish them luck but um and certainly their meetings are uh they deal with a lot more things like fiscal money you know uh they've got different department there's a lot of things capital we've got subdivision regulation we got signs but it it is a much much simpler and u you know I'm a big believer in the kiss principle uh let's keep it as simple as possible possible. So, I I just went through and drew up a graph of bylaws that you could go by and um um so I thought I'd throw these out here. Yes, this is one of those things that also

that's why I think it was also one of those things that was supposed to be in January or December or one of we canled one because of Christmas then we cancelled one because of snow. Uh oh. Is this the first time we met that? So, we've got three agendas kind of crunched together and I apologize for some of the mishaps. But

Stephanie, thank you for this. We do have a motion for a second. Motion to motion to amend the original motion to also consider present to us. We have a second.

Okay. Okay. So, we're back to the amended motion to table this to the March meeting. Is there any further discussion? Okay. Uh, I just wanted to reiterate um I would like to go I would like to have the rules of procedure. I looked at some of the bylaws. I I really like some of the stuff in there as well. Uh I don't really care what we call it. Um

I don't want to set the president. I don't want that rules and procedures, you know, someone's going to be I guess but I understand your your feelings to the app. Any further discussion? All those in favor of taking this to the March meeting say I

I thank you. Now toe on the agenda discussion regarding resition.

Mr. Chairman I included in our agenda the draft of the motion. uh I want to praise Stephanie and whoever assisted her uh in basically already doing what this motion was proposing to be done. So the motion in a sense kind of comes motion was basically just to make sure we update our core documents at least once a year and she's just recently updated those documents and so I think the motion's in order No, that's

the other side, But we don't need to vote. So you've included all the documents and you put them in the document and reference the resolution and the date of adoption. Okay. So at some point that's what you looked at today. At some point you probably do want to codify that by having the county commission reopt it and remove all

I wouldn't do that now. I wouldn't do that now. We just started this working and a lot more with what we changes that we've made that makes that one a current one. Yes. It just says at the bottom with all amendments through February 2026. Can I take the old one off the website and do some current that one on the draft is filed?

I would check if I just make sure this following commissioners spoken to the county attorney about this matter. He says anything that you update that document has already been approved either by this body or by county commission. All it takes is there's no reason

that's his understanding. So the uh citizen who helped with this was Mary. And so thank you Mary. Okay,

we are on to other business. I have an update. It's very short. So, the um East Tennessee Development District was getting ready to send you a contract. Uh it will not come to this body. It will go to the county mayor. And um um they've asked us, we did this last year, but um uh for you, you get a lot of services from the development district. If you want demographic data, you can call them and they'll do reports. They also assist you with grant applications, ARC applications for infrastructure. uh they staff the RPO which hopefully your county road superintendent and tends and that is federal money that's passed through that goes to local development includes roadways and so there's a lot of services that they offer and your contract is includes all those services um for this service which is what I offer uh to the strictly to the planning commission Um they're listing the basic services that I provide and it's I maintain your zone north. I maintain your subdivision regulations. I review all your items for approval of the planning commission. I draft amendments. Um and uh so this is just a statement of what those services are. Item two is for the coming year. What do you want me to work on? what you not just me it's work for you guys too and now that we have this working group it'll be work for them um so Adam A was created advisory committee to update guided documents uh check uh amendments to the subdivision regulations but I think we adopted shy

bonding and subdivision review I'm not sure that that's really made I don't think we have so this is the part where somebody doesn't put a top coat on the road, you let the bond expire, the taxpayers of this county pay for it. to make sure we're doing that in a format that protects the taxpayers and that cost goes to the developer and it's it's establish a lot of things we just discussed with this the guidance 27 um amendment to the zoning ordinance specifically um additional agricultural districts and streamlining supplies for agricultural businesses. Now I think under the create advisory committee I think anything that you want to go as amendment from the subrel should go through that group. So we I mean just like what we did today you got a detailed understanding of um the ins and outs of adopting amendments like that and and they are they're very complicated. and somebody sitting here 2 hours once a month, we're going to get really good at this. And that enables you to relate to other fishers to explain to the public what we're doing and also to carry that information to your legislative body when we're asking for amendments. So, I feel like that's really really important. But they asked me to give this to you guys and see if there's anything specifically you want to add to item two. And if not uh that it is uh adopted as is and sign

uh they're going to send it out with your contract for the development district services. So as long as he put it on the agenda for next month and um that way the county may have he be sure to take a look at that you'd like to add to some questions about go through March.

And I think the mayor will receive the contract. Thank you very much. Do we have any other bills? Okay, we're at the end meeting. We have some assistant input. I appreciate you all waiting patiently as we through this now. And I'll start off with Michael. Michael 783 Co. Two quick things. One on the drilling company. That's a big deal on Cole Road. I got road up the big trucks last week. But what I'm here personally talk about is 445 Cole Road is down about four properties up in Dun Valley. It's a residential house and they made it a business. They redone the house. They don't live there. And I think he told Stephanie that the sun is there. Nobody does. They come in and do the business. They've got two big boom trucks. They got a dump truck now. There's trailers there. There's trash in the backyard. And I've seen skid steers and a couple of tracks here during the summer. And I just like to know what the regulations are.

Well, that's the one that I had talked to you all about previous talked to you and Jimmy about previously. But I mean, if he's if he's his own equipment, I don't know how we can stop him from working on his property. I don't know how we can either belong to property owners and he's not, I believe, business out there. That's his business office. So, it's an office. Yeah. Nobody lives there. So, but they're running it as an office. They actually have office set up in the home. There's people there. They show up. You see the trucks pull in like in the morning or when they got a job. Yeah.

And trucks leave or stay gone for a couple days, then trucks back in place. So it's Yeah. It's not a residence. Is it listed on Google? Is it listed on a business? I don't know. I don't believe it. You don't have to know. Oh, I don't know the name of the business. Know the names of the owners. I think we have that.

We got there's a sign up on the fence that is uh some fence guy. I think they're maybe friends or something. It's not them. Um, so just because the guy owns the property uh does not mean that you can park anything on it. Storage of uh the equipment that you're referring to is involved in heavy construction or industrial. Last time I saw those trucks out, they were tearing down barn and hit guys.

Um, so there have been a couple cases where you'll see somebody um especially along old old routes in urban areas. They'll have good dirt, fill, uh, uh, mulch, different kinds of mulch, sand, and different sizes gravel. There's not a structure there. So um it the use of the property the principal use of the property is commercial

and so the principal use of that property uh accessory uses I think if you look and I'm assuming this is own residential then you're

okay then you're looking at accessory uses now if it's A1 um that may be something that's considered an accessory use in your A1 district, but is it agricultural equipment or is it some as we were talking about uh accessory use of equipment working on farm equipment today in the A1 district but if it's if it your now I'm not sure about agricultural but if your accessory uses says the following slides okay what's an accessory use a barn, a tractor, this and that. If those are all outside the realm of quote unquote accessories and they're construction and if construction is not an allowable use in that agricultural subd district, then it's not incidental to the principal use,

which is the light that's the official language, right? Accessory to the principal use. If it's not accessory to the printer to use, then it it's it becomes just not allowed.

They got big gravel. They got a big pile of gravel. Looks like they could expand. They got seven acres. Okay. So, it sounds to me like you're saying they're operating outside of what they're correct. Correct. So, I just want to ask you a question. Can you look at what's permitted in a zone? Do you have certain ones that they're in violation of? No, we're not. That would be something that's available. Okay. Sorry. I'll

Okay. Uh so where I was going with that uh I believe we have a mechanism for property owners to when they file a complaint to appear like to appear before zoning. I think that might be a more appropriate uh file we'll have to research investigator and if you could come up with a name of the business would be good as well.

Okay. So I I think uh I mean I assume you're coming here wanting direction. I think that would be the direction for you uh would be to you could see Stephanie in the planning office and um I guess there's a file uh we just have the BCA like we have for Yeah. So then you could uh request to appear before the board. Okay. Well, except for me and him.

So, but you are not faring or living. Um,

we have seen pictures. Yeah. And one thing I want to be really careful about it just because it's currently in a situation with them. It's it's or in the county. Um that there was some question was that allowed to use I think some split and things got up and operated then you told them to shut down and now I think so and that is a is that

right right but this is a generic So take that.

Okay, moving on. I wrote it.

Hello, I'm Danny. I live at 566 Columbia Road. Uh that's not my property also joint adjacent coil on that corner. Been there 30 plus years. First time I've been to meeting some handouts. So all this is really want to talk about the traffic and you know you reference that the business on on Coral is definitely not light industrial big digging equipment long big semis but uh with long trailers low the ground heavy equipment u the point of this is you see crude drawing of my so this is from 92 going to the red the approximate area where the big rectangle would be where that business is. Okay. Uh several line curves on that. That road is not very wide. There's actually little to no shoulder. So you have white line dropped off. So you got a wide piece of equipment coming through line curves in a heavy residential area. If you mind flipping to the next page, I promise there's a story here. This is the same road coil coming from Dumplin Valley. Again, it's the same approximation where that big rectangle is where the distance is. If you'll notice the white line, the the road lines are the real sharp curve there. And the next page is what I want to reference. This is where my father resides. And I've witnessed many times this road where the long trucks with the big equipment pulling these heavy equipment around this curve, they're taking both lanes. There's not enough room to make that big 90° turn. This is a blind field, blind curve. You see many resident homes being built

there. Uh in that area, they're expanding greatly. There's a lot of traffic on this road. It's a major thoroughare for people from Damage going to Hamlin and Jefferson, bypassing the city, and red lights. It's always been that way. And it's more and more traffic. Also a major thoroughare for high school students going to and from the school. So there's many wrecks on this road. The Mount intersections got many. So now you're introducing heavy equipment into that same environment. And the last thing I'll touch base on is where this proposed business is is here zoomed up. So if you look real close behind that, you'll see ponds. So in this area where we're talking about, this business has heavy equipment like I mentioned before, drilling equipment, a lot of equipment using oils and petroleums. So there's been witness. I was going to read some of my notes here if I could. uh presents several risks for surface water and groundwater contamination. Power washing activities are being conducted without any filtration or contaminant measures to capture runoff. This runoff may carry not only soil and debris but also oils, petroleum residents residues and other contaminations in the ground. Multiple pieces of equipment are stored on the property each which each of which contains oil and petroleum products. Long form long-term outdoor storage increases the likelihood of leaks or spills. further elevating the risk of surface water contamination. In addition, fuel tanks are present on site and overfilling and proper handling can contribute to petroleum entering the soil or groundwater. These conditions collectively create a heightened risk of surrounding environment. Ponds located behind the facility serve as water sources for livestock and wildlife. Drinking water wells are also present in the area without proper containment filtration spill prevention measures and contaminants from the facility get migrated to the water sources. So again, if you close it, I don't I'm not

a member of the chamber of commerce, but I go there and I love growth. I love big business coming in. The zoning for this is heavy equipment and I don't think it should be around where there's farm residential zonings. I'm new to this, so I don't know a lot of the terms for zoning, but that kind of sticks out because there's they've got a a small footprint with equipment everywhere stored. So I don't know what, you know, there's something we can do to try to resone there. maybe possibly ask them to go to a better place to put their to their business.

I'll speak a little bit to this. That property is C2. Okay. and we actually did a site visit and spoke with them and gave them a list of allowable uses for C2 and told them that they stay within the scope in C2. If they were outside and stuff that there would be and they were told to document everything, you know, keep the truck any need to have your documentation for uh I may be speak to my knowledge that the state of Tennessee can actually give permits to allow trucks on those roads. I never seen a permit. I never saw a truck there. I don't have the authority to request person. That's something that's something to be done through the department as we can deal with what the property is zoned for or taking place there. If they're outside and to get that property resone, the owner probably would have to be reszone. Neighbors can't. What does this see? You said something too commercial.

Is that industrial heavy or light?

Memoriz the issues with the traffic. you see something that okay? Okay. And then I also t I think it's abbreviation acronym water. Yeah. So I did reach out to those folks. They were trying to send some to the water contamination.

Yeah.

I mean few years maybe not but it's long term where you know that we saw some chemical that was being stored there. I did request SCS, but the chemical that they have there is actually put in the ground. It's it's not anything that's going to be hazard by with the chemical advantage there. The oils and the cleaners and all that stuff that's completely different, but the chemical options were stuff that were not groundwater. Well, I just, you know, just the the biggest thing is traffic and that's the that's the major and again that would be county county share traffic.

Okay. So, I have two questions. Um, is road a coil road a county maintained? Yes. right away.

Are there is there another way out? Well, when I gave you those two pictures of two ways into that place from one way from 92 coming from Mor take a big sharp turn off the coil road and then the other way is about kind of met in the middle is what that was trying to illustrate. No, I mean Mount I mean right now you can see because it's fall there's no police but there's several wine curves on that. There's not enough room for a big truck to go around those curves without having someone go off. Yes.

So, um if there is a larger road that that business and it sounds like I mean it's seem to debate all day is that something that should be there or not but at this point it's there etc etc but it sounds to me like the county sheriff or the county pros who turn him could he's gone constructed that they're not uh they can't be using a road that runs in front of all these houses. The other thing that concerns me is um if Coral Road is not built to an industrial standard to withstand the weight of some of the equipment you're talking about.

Yeah. I don't know the major models of those, but I was looking at them, you know, driving by and googling, looking at total weights. some of those if you have the right equipment on those trailers, you're probably exceeding 60,000 lbs up to 80 up to 80. So he I read T7500. I I spoke with some folks in the equipment residential areas and according to them you can get that permit. Is that a one time shot or is that for for business and that nature.

Yeah, that's when but my understanding this is a kind like a repair deal or stuff in service. I don't know all the nature. I know traffic all different hours of night also. I know they put up new signs and Jake breaking because that was a problem. Yeah, that was me. And I do want to ask this question. I know we have one more citizen in I don't want to get too we have anyone with this cup.

Yeah, I spoke with him. Yeah, I spoke with them and uh they pretty much told me they were trying they had six seven acres there and they're only zone for one acre in the building and they told me they were going to take the 6 acres beside it and fill it and gravel it and use it for the trucks and they they moved everything out of it. They moved not everything. There's still some stuff over there on all across the property line. He didn't see you the day we were there. There's still some stuff on. Like I said, when I come out of my driveway right in front of them, okay?

And they're still turning in my ditch. There's not enough room for the trucks to back in there. They pull up long ways the way the road runs and unload in the road. I have pictures of them doing that. Uh, you know, I asked them and asked them, "Hey, you know, got st my property." It just went one ear and out the other. So again, that's something I would take up with the sheriff department. Well, we saw today that Bill Patterson, the brother superintendent, has put a weight limit side on the road of 12 tons. That's 21,000 lb. Now, who's going to, you know, get back to cash, right?

I mean, that that's where the road safety will have to be, right? And and the road's falling in pieces now. I mean, they just turned the road off pieces. Joe can help with that. Yeah, they were fine. They've been in there about four or five years. Just the past year, they've just This is a nationwide academy. They're out Cincinnati High. There's no one or two people are local that work there. The rest of these people are all out of state people. Uh it's just not a good fit. Like like we said, there's there's livestock all around it. And

yes, and they're running Monday. I counted they ran five trucks in and out there Monday. Uh Tuesday they ran three trucks up till 7:30 8:00 at night. And if I saw that it was a safety concern at the point time we can't do anything. Right. Right. Thank you for your m over. Yeah.

Well, once again, if you feel that the property owner is operating outside the bounds of what they're zoned for, uh, which you could go through our zoning document, see what's allowed of it. You can get with Stephanie and come before the board of zoning appeals and challenge, uh, what they're doing. You just want to make sure you're prepared, right? Well, I'm already keep the horns, man. So, I I'm hoping that something will come of it. So,

I hope so. Okay. Thank you, uh, Mr. S. And uh next citizens my concern about this company named Jurg. Um, it's got its corporate headquarters. It's set in Cincinnati with five regional offices across the nation. According to the website, they're heavy industrial drilling company. This company that joins my family farm on two sides and as Danny says, they're washing things, their equipment, and that equipment is going onto my property and into our pond. Um my concern also is the ongoing dangerous situation with this heavy equipment that's being driven on Cool Road as well as Mount Ford. Uh where I live is a thorough affair for Mount Hord Elementary School as well as Ford High School. And then we're also getting more than 100 homes being built out in that area which just causes more increase in traffic. Uh GO many times will stop traffic on the road on full road and load and unload their heavy industrial equipment. Uh even when they are not loading their heavy equipment, they are parked dangerously close to the road. I can just see someone, especially an inexperienced high schooler, flying down that road, which they do fly, uh running into their equipment. Now, right now, after we've kind of made some uh

comments, they've moved their equipment back, but they are within 10 ft or less of Core Road with their heavy equipment. I know our roads are designed for residential and agricultural drivers and equipment. Uh but these are being our roads are being damaged by this heavy industrial equipment. Um, I live at the crossroads, so the noise from their Jake breaks begins early in the morning and continues throughout the day. And as they've said, we do have a sign now that says no Jake brakes. I've noticed it has gotten a little quieter. Um, but they are still going up and down the road at all hours. Um, it's also a concern that Jodel is seeking to purchase six more acres and joining this property. And this is again we are agricultural and residential. We are not a commercial area. This used to be the former nickel sign company which is where godal is. They are on 1 acre property. This company that was nickel sign company was a local company. It was not a national company. Please understand I love industrial industry. Um lived here all my life. So I don't mind them coming to um our area but this is the wrong place for them. They need to be where uh commercial park is so that they can bring in this heavy equipment. Um the one acre they are only zoned for commercial but I feel if they acquire the other six acres then the traffic is going to be horrendous. They're going to be damaging our roads. We have a quiet neighborhood even though we have a lot of traffic. Uh, but I know that they've already disrupted our neighborhood quite a bit. I'm just asking that you please consider not to let me zone this six more acres because I feel like it's

going to be a great detriment to the traffic, the children as well as our neighborhood. But I do want to thank uh Mr. Patterson. He did put up as they just said a 12 ton limit. So they are not in compliance with that. We will be talking and sharing.

Yeah. And if the gap permits and I'm speaking about something that I've got very limited knowledge, but if they got permits, I don't know what your county can do. If they don't have their permits, I think we all want and if you find violation, but again feel that point in time in fraction when they're there and they're stopped question and you're saying

that's what that's what other folks I think you have some folks here lo heavy equipment from time to time. That's that's common.

If you're coming in on secondary roads, I'm not been out about four years out of town. When you get down to 24 ft or less, you got to have front rear escorts mandatory. That's far as the permits go. You know, a lot of companies like them probably running blanket permits. So, they get a little more leeway versus direct route permits. A lot of companies when you're doing oversized all the time, you buy a blanket permit that pretty much covers you. I mean, you got guidelines by um go to the drug pick you up and give you some guidelines yearly. I know you I think it's if lander 12 ft or less you have to have can't remember the width if you're 11 ft I believe it was you got to have front and rear escorts

can you give me the address or 865 c o i l e somewhere I l

it's spelled it's spelled G E O but it's pronounced G voice on that plane. Okay, Mr. There is a statute in the state that the commission will change and all that. I think she sent that be more than happy.

Guys, that completes the citizens in set aside. We got one more got something you want to say Mr. fail. Put it in perspective. Decent size skid or track or whatever you call that trailer 3500. Absolutely. I know that we trust him and John comes

and we were still at 140,000,000. Plus for granted, a sweeper truck with the RBN is probably going to be in the 60 65 range. Empty. Empty. You said 30,000 lb.

We have anything else here. Is there any favor? Thank you all for your attention.