Zoning Commission - Regular Meeting

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here okay so uh we can move on to the approval of the meeting these minutes do everyone had a chance to them over and directions or additions to the um minutes from the meeting on January 20th of 2025 I'll move to approve second all in favor hi hi anybody opposed Mission carries so uh we'll open the public hearing for the uh zoning of the property at uh in section 12 of Fairfield Township uh since near the 84st street on at Springville Road so we have anybody that wants to speak uh we a place to go want to give us an overview you want me to do a rundown what's going on first thank you I'm sorry I'm I'm not hearing it very well Mike go ahead Lor okay so um there's a two acre tract of land north of Springville on 84th Street in 387th Avenue the track is currently owned owned by Wy or excuse me Willie Brothers Farms LLC the applicant is a speville LLC um the representative is John Paul baric um and their proposal is to um place a data processing business on that two acres site there north of Preston it's going to be a it would be a modular Data Center and um it would be a demand response load resource right next to the

substation it is said to even out the supply and demand of power on the makoka electric um makoka Valley Electric um lines um in your paperwork there's also a um plot plan that shows what would be on the site it it shows the parking spots a work trailer storage containers two of them and then the the four Modular Buildings um and whoever the representative is there from um Aur my my interpretation of this it shows the input and the output the airflow where the um where the ventilations and the fan would be U my understanding also is this is air cooled and not water cooled um that they're proposing to put to put here um I'll just I'll just defer now over to whoever's there from the the company here representing capital um another comp the L here um I do have some handouts a little more information on the [Music] company support from the uh electric company anybody that um so yes so we are here requesting uh approval for a conditional use permit um for this property um as you can see up

here um the the plot plan we do we are planning on air cool um with this uh one of the pages it does show the fans the way that we have it set up is the fan direction will be facing away from the closest residence um which is like within 675 ft of this location that sorry so the the way that that this is set up the way that we have the uh the site set up is that the fans it will be uh air cooled and the fans are facing the opposite direction so we'll be the most of the noise will be going out this way where the prop property the closest property which is like 675 ft away from this um site that's the closest um and we do have that in the packet where the site plans are and it also out the the distance between each of them so be facing the South that Beast [Music] but um yeah so I I can say I can talk a little bit about orm Capital um so we've been in business with um here in Iowa since 2019 um we currently have about 25 megawatts of active operations across Iowa um we have locations in Northwest Iowa Central Iowa and um now we um are looking to move here to more of the Eastern uh part of Iowa um with this we've been a trusted

partner um in Iowa's uh energy sector since 2019 and we are just looking to expand our footprint here um we do um she did mention that we do um use demand side management um with that it helps optimize energy use instead of just increasing the power generation it shifts energy use to off peak time reduces The Strain on the grid and improves overall Energy Efficiency and that's us working with the um Power um with the demand side management um it does have benefits to the community um with lower uh electricity cost fewer power outages improves great liability um reduces the need of power uh new power power plants excuse me and environmental friendly um it saves the community money enhances grid stability and supports economic growth and promotes uh stability um within the grid how big is this facility going to be in comparison to your other facilities that are going to be here how many Meads it's actually quite small so um right now we have our our smallest one is five megawatts so this will be half of that size how many computers uh that I I may I I can get that answer I I don't have that this size what's the do they have R um so on that um with the decimal reading so right now uh the way that it is um we would be about 46 deals res um and that is within just like normal

noise um so once you get past kind of so we have the outside here from the previous location and if you're on the side of the exhaust bands um you know so if you're 409 ft in front of the exhaust bands it was like two decb and then if you're on the opposite side um we had a reading from 370 ft on the opposite side and it was down to 44 VES um so you have facilities in Woodbury and um I think gry counties okay and when you went back into try and have a second data center put in or bit Bitcoin mining Center put in you were turn down you know why um I I think it was just the public um I'm not really sure what the full reason um Bry County I don't think we've been turned down yet but um uh wood Barry I know is is still in consideration like there's still other sites within Woodberry or around that those areas that are still in consider that were turned down yeah what's the difference between r capital Investments and Mining store uh it's just the mother company excuse me but I'm new at this my first reading sorry so apparently we can't have the public speak this representative okay um so yeah so um anyways within the packet you can see um just there's a couple case studies that are on the back um some information on just you know um energy grid waste um

and a case study that was done um that just shows um you know the the benefits of our um cooperation with the the um we also have the benefits of the um state and local taxes um as well as with a site this side we would have two full-time employees those employees we offer full-time benefits housing um gym memberships they're around here but um so we do um with this site we have two fulltime employees how many people in the construction they specialized to work in the construction of the actual I like yeah so um we don't really do any like real construction other than like the dirt work around it everything's pretty much free pre bad um that we put in um but we do work with um a li Ed uh electrician who does all of our um electrical work so in your other facilities do you usually have do you bring like these two employees in from somewhere else or do you try and find them locally we try to find them locally L you want to continue on then um no I'm just listening so we're good I have no comments I guess now if um um um you want to go ahead and open it up for the public with comments and concerns and also I I don't know um if you're I don't know how you guys want to

address the comments that are coming across I don't know if you want to address those all at once when you're allowing the the public to speak that are online because they will be given that opportunity uh maybe they could hold off on their comments until they get that chance I've seen at least five or six come across is that right Becca seven okay and do we have a time limit three three minutes I didn't think anything publish so I pick I anybody want to make a motion to open the public hearing I'll move that we open for a public hearing I'll second all in favor ibody opposed oh I'm sorry anybody can s and we well yeah so the P six Deb so this will typically be at night correct uh I mean low low demand pretty I mean if there is low shedding then I mean it will be shut down closest C I'm sorry 46 de you mentioned was that to the closest house that would be to the closest house currently at 6 what the measur we have the next property to the east uh well the next property was like over 1,500 feet away so I mean it would continue to it with the sound reading I me you're never going to get to zero so you're always going to have so it's always going to stay like around 40 DB even if you didn't have fans running it would still just the natural sound of so I mean it would it would stay around 40 Deb to the next who

polies that you're using electricity when there's a load of the the electric company so we work very closely with them they're in support of this they're in support of electricity yes we have a letter of support from them um is there a business is sell on electricity right right that's all I have for um but you know it's it's not just about selling electricity I mean it's also you know that's kind of where those um the case study comes in and just talking about how the relationship between the electric company and us coming in to help stabilize that because if the energy the doesn't it goes unused then there can be more problems there than us coming in and and helping use that that load so and again we work very closely with them to shut off when you need to be shut off um we get bed very highly or we pay high bills you know um if we don't follow those rules so you know it's in our benefit to work very closely with them and and you know follow those guidelines oh they got long so far again that's not my business to I'm not going to sit here and speak for the electric company so like I said we have a letter of support and that's all I can go from at this point here's what I'll say as a member of the makoka Valley Electric Cooperative um to be perfectly honest the coka valley has been very good to us as a farm family and if they can sell more electricity and give all of us a cheaper rate because electricity is very much like a commodity if you can buy more you can get it at a cheaper rate and if they can pass that on to us now I don't know if that I I would assume that they would um

they've been very fair to us um so the other part of it is I like my dividend checks that I get every year from the poker valy so they they're very fair with rate increases um in my personal opinion they've been very good with us so I hope you guys aren't going to bash my electric company because I I'm very happy with them um I want to say something I've been quiet here I'm not GNA uh participate in the vote or in any of the discussion because I am on the makoka Valley Electric Board so thank you Monica um I will answer any questions concerning this and uh makoka Valley Electric's part in this is we are obligated by our tariff to supply power to any business that comes in and um get zoned correctly so this to us is no different than if a manufacturer came in or somebody built a house if they you know ask us for power according to our tariff we're required to supply it and so we're just simply suppliers of electricity on this now in the in the past D stus and in the past from the other locations has electricity is a tendency electricity in the price for the neighboring um neighboring area does it does it affected price of it I mean does it seem like it goes up so with us in the it usually lowers it for you or it Remains the Same us coming in is not going to higher or um raise

your rates at all it's it's at least going to keep them stable or lower them another question I have livestock right alongside of the the cow Pastor house baby CS right alongside where this would be purchased um do that fact their um deception rate I mean anything of that sort is there anything there's no evidence to show anything um I mean this is just fans and inside the pods are miners like computer boxes running so there shouldn't be anything that would radiate out to your yeah your livestock or even to humans um and a lot of our spots we are right next to um uh I believe we have a hog process or not hog processing but a hog lot um next to one of ours we have cattle so we in almost all of our locations we are very close to livestock and we've seen no detriment to their can I ask what the size of this picture is in height in length is it is it in here is oh no I don't believe it's in the packet um but there I mean it would be like a probably the size of like a single wide trailer but each pod yeah like each pod be like a and this is exactly what it looks like it's not like these are going to be in another building or a structure over these yeah correct so that's that's actually a picture from one of our current locations um St Anthony and so that is what the pods would actually look like very SAR maybe a different configuration like you could see on your mapping but um it those would be what it would look like the blue part is where the fans ex

exactly enure burned in January yes so do you find out what that fire no we believe it was a space heater um why were those enclosed and open uh that one was one of our that was actually our First Sight um so it was just one of those it things just started coming and we needed to find a a quick um way to like uh store some of that that equipment so we still had pods that were around it which you probably can't see that but um so the the hoop Barn was just a was supposed to be temporary but you know um it end up staying until it it did um but yeah so in that same area we're we're adding more pods air pods is this as big as it would go the or would there be any chance in the future you would add to that um there there could be possibility of growth but at this time um you this is this is it so well I can't tell will this take up the entire plot um I you wanted to add five that would it be possible the way it's currently configured um I don't know the exact acreage that we currently have but I think the way that it's configured I think this would probably be um the max that we would have at at [Music] that to proposed site messed up and just wondering um it's in the proposed areas kind of a lower area lower wet weather area that stuff and then we have um water we that drains down to that area

and wondering how that would be redirected or hand to drink water drink in case to flash storms or something like that um I I don't have that answer I mean we would probably I mean I can try and get that answer for you but I don't have exactly that would be routed or it would be routed that would interfere mostly a dry area there Springs that come down but it's a low area that that's the natural path of water drain yeah um yeah I don't have that answer [Music] at no I'm I'm live you said the fans so that would be the direction that they go do you live there or is that just live you don't live thank you what's the life expectancy of these pods um so we have a 10 year life so usually our our leases are for 10 years can I can I ask a question question real quick you guys to to their representative um are you guys leasing the land or going to be buying the land from the Willie Brothers okay sorry I just L I want to make a excuse me Lor this is I'm also one of the applicants it's a purchase of a land it's not people going on or think applicant to clarify this is a purchase of this of the Trent Willies property not a lease so

okay question so at the end of this 10 year what is the of that okay this gentleman just said they were purchasing the property locations are so but that still doesn't what happen either retire the site um I mean like I said most of our the equipment that we have are um our buildings are are leas you know those so those would you know be returned or we would continue to um you know uh we had to get another um uh Mission or whatever you know to continue running if if that was still um viable so at the end of 10 years you can build and remove yes yeah they only get sat on a um concrete slab so they are not bu yeah so going forward with that just so you know most of the other people know I'm a County Supervisor here so you would still at the end of the 10 years be responsible for the ground or maintaining the ground keeping it clean any waste debris or whatever type that way I'm assuming and then um another question I had was you did say if I wasn't mistaken like during Peak energy times that you would be shutting down because obviously you don't want to pay exactly them high peak bills either because that would probably after yeah I mean there we have programs that we you know there's usually times they'll notify us ahead of time that say Hey you guys need to shut down during this time and this time and so you know we have either someone on site or by a push of a button we can shut everything down um

and so we're using minimal energy at that time okay and then are these classified as Portable Buildings yes I I believe because they they're they're not a permanent structure so they're not built so then they're not like taxable or the only thing that would be taxable would be the land um nin can I interject yeah okay so even though they're technically classified as portable and they can be removed they will be connected by a source they'll be connected by um um conduit or whatever electrical wiring is they will not be cons I am confident they will not be considered as um is U they'll be considered real estate is my understanding and then I think one of the big questions that I've heard from people in the public is what what type of would our fire departments need for fire suppression um so normal I mean there's there's nothing hazardous that we have in you know other than the computer boxes themselves so you know there there's not like a Hazmat or anything um specific that you would need um like the fire that we just had at Rose it was just the fire department um and water supply so basically then Valley would cut power and they would drown with water yes I'm sorry I can't sorry that's correct this is a metal building or metal pod so um fire it has to catch on wood so um there was a question here in the chat of everything can catch on fire uh so what's catching on there's no wood there uh other than you know the original facility that we sadly burnt down also the question on

sales tax um we do pay sales tax on energy roughly $660,000 a year will be paid to the taxes um for this facility I think the question was more geared around um property taxes versus sales tax understand any questions here stus again my brother had mentioned about because we on the land to the east of it um I don't know if they realize but that's a pretty good size Waterway there probably 40 acres that come through right right through that site and you go further to the west and to the to the South it starts climbing the hills so the water is going to have to go through this area um I don't know if they I would think they realize that but there's to go up around it's it's quite a raise to for the water to go up to keep going to the South to go around here because the hill races at the same time I don't know if you put Culver in or what you do but uh that is a con a real concern because it'd be flooded on the upper side if that would be shut off for my pass are so Trent the land owner did let us know about that and we will work with a civil group and we will install CTS at this facility uh to ensure that the water can be dispersed and that the land is elevated high enough so it doesn't affect the servers or the equipment and we did check we do check Iowa um flood records and uh the flooding zones and to make sure that the land is not in any uh flood plane because it does take like 40 acres drain into this Waterway for sure so just that third wir

excuse me um I'm Aaron tummy my parents are Rhonda and Randy Rowan who own the property that it's closest to the propos so just a little fact from the EPA website that I found um I think you quoted 46 Aver correct so EPA site says a level of 45 55 Deb is enough um to prevent or excuse me to cause activity interference annoyance and these levels will affect spoken conversation sleeping working and Recreation so it do a bit sense purchase the acreage however many years ago it was never a concern um I don't think they anticipated having an acreage at the end of a dead in lanane with Timber and crop Lanes drowning it and having to worry about noise sense and I know it's a concern but I I really you know it's it's a concern it it is a concern yes and I mean well I mean but yeah it's and the decimals are very low at that you know it's it's basic you know conversation noise you know so um but yeah I mean it's we look to be good neighbors so you know there are things that we can do to mitigate like if if they feel that the noise is too much or what you know we we want to be good neighbors so and we are willing to work and and help mitigate anything that we need to so by trying to face the fans away from the residents is one way that we're trying to mitigate that you know that noise reduction for them would there be any other options for KN medication besides the direction of the things I H in here sorry I'm Charlie I'm the landing or Capital Ventures so down here to miate sound Tre we use

barriers we use whatever the last thing we want to do is set up 10 years here and put millions of dollars of infrastructure into this property and then take everybody off and then have to come back here in a year and set in front of all the people that we here because we're not um we're not going to come in and tell you that we're going to put building and nobody smell anything it's uh an operation that is loud where it's located it's kind of got the bottom of the hill um so we're not worried at 500 ft that we're going to bother any so if you if you think you can hear the refrigerator running from 100 ft away that's basically that's right here you're not going to be able to hear at greater than 500 um we the one thing that we haven't done yet is taking ambient temperature noises out of property and then went and taking noise at a property over 500 ft away after we're running um that is going to be done here this year um and so it's if I live for that is my goal is to be 500 ft or more away from a property that is actually going to have res involved with it so um that's that's where our safety moment is like I said we're not going to throw $1 million Investments millions of dollars I think this 1.1 million is this particular site just come back here in a year and have take and do things differ so when Tasha said we want good neighbors we want to be good neighbors we don't want to take anybody off if I have to put a barrier find trees if we have to do anything like that um then we do it our projects are not halfhazard we have a civil engineers that actually sit down and design everything out so for your sake of of the water and drainage and things like that we know that happens we're not just guys that hire a couple you know guys in a pickup truck that lay slab down um it's a 4inch concrete slab we're a professional setup I know some of the pictures that TSH was

put in the the booklet um shows that everything is perfect everything is neat everything is just you know the way it should be so um there are people in this industry that have bad names they come in they put all this stuff inside semi- trucks and they wheel it into neighborhoods and they plug it in power and sit there and make as much noise as possible the wheels go flat on the on the trailers and Tra on the flat beds and there's just a lot of different things within this particular field that there are FL by companies out there we have uh seven Banks behind us right now with a pocket book of $1.1 billion dollar that they're starting to invest in us as a company so we're we're not just going to come in and start throwing stuff around we take care of our property we're not going to let we between our rocks we're going to have a maintenance guy it's going to be a full-time guy they do take care of different sites but it's not it's not something that you're going to drive by and see an i or you're going to have your window down when you drive by it are you going to hear it absolutely you're going to hear but other than that it's you know will mitigate whatever problems come up um I will give anybody here my phone number I also have a copy of the Inc letter stating that they're fing with us using the power um and I don't know sir if you can particularly know this particular we substation is it owned by Inc or is it owned by yeah Valley Electric ownes and Sub Station many times when I go into communities the sub stations are not owned by the actual Cooperative they're owned by the generation and transmission comp and that generational transmission company sets a value aside for some of these substations and some of those values can be $35,000 a month in charge so when we come into communities and there's a substation sitting there that's being used by 10% they're throwing money in a hole and that's kind of what Inc is doing so to speak but they're not actually paying rent on it but you guys are paying rent on it so now we're taking the capacity of that substation and making that substation

actually viable and it's making money so instead of robbing power from you or thinking that your power's going to go up because we're going to use at all your power will actually stabilize and most likely could possibly go down because we're using enough power we're adding to their operating budget that like they've never seen before some of the communities we go into we use more power than the actual Town uses itself so we stabilize power sometimes we bring it down but you're not going to have to worry about going on so if anybody has any questions for me feel free so I I've got one comment because you said that you've got cattle over there so are you weeding calvs over in that area if you're winning Cales and if you're talking about noise over there I can guarantee you that Wing Cales are much louder than 50 DB I hear about 200 of them every spring so if you're hearing that and if you're going to complain about 50 DB that's that's kind of a big difference I 247 365 I living there for 20 years I don't have never heard some C Bing or I live on a farm myself I understand what sounds like but I tell you that's that's 50 DB is probably lower than what I'm talking right now so I'm not discounting worrying about the noise level but I can tell you that 48 DB is not a lot you have to wear hearing protection in a manufacturing plant at 85 to 90 Deb half of that is is what we're talking about here and the EPA says 45 to 55 is considered

in 247 I would like to see the studies behind the EPA i' I'm and I will look at that I'm a little ler of what the govern has been putting out there lately what are the be bubbles of Des put out that if you're right up against it uh I'm just talking that like you fluctuate if that's what you're asking it's gonna always be the same white noise until we're shut up it's not when you're using more power it's not making more noise or anything there's no acceleration to it it's either on that's that's all there's to it we go from you know our highest peak load down to about what your house uses in less than 5 minutes when we sh shut off we do have a little triple that that sits there and kind of puts everything on idle as soon as it says that okay you guys are turn back on again the power Dro down to level comfortable pay right back off so being an average of 46 pretty much steady and it's like I said it's it's a like your fan in your bedroom I want to say it's in your bedroom but it's that noise it's all so it's not like beeping hking ing cows or anything like that it's just a steady sound and once again um we're confident that 5ud stud on exposure to close neers that the properties it's you wouldn't have any other any EMF out of that anymore that substation would get out and then I did you have any where did you back your data from since been in business for 10 years with the life expectancy of these being 10 years do you did you do you have any data that you provide where you got them I I don't um as far as these buildings are concerned they can be repurposed so um

we shipping we can buy new new servers and put them in here and use it as as a data center for files process credit card processing the biggest push right now is artificial intelligence so the run for data processing and the run for artificial intelligence is woring the heck out of people and I don't know if anybody in this room knows about Dwayne arold and seid because of there's also one in Michigan and think Pennsylvania so there's three power plants that were nuclear power plants that were all decommissioned that are all now coming back online for this so I don't see in 10 years if the service is going to go away if anything what happens is the computers get smaller faster and more efficient so we can stick more into the building so we can expand that way and it kind of just matters on where the X Factor is how much AI can we generate and then how much power is going to cost to where you hit that okay it cost too much to run in this particular location so um we need to pick up and move these spot to either another location or change what we're doing with it to be able to make it more affordable and I think originally the 10 years was more the leases that we did have other than the purchasing but the were the Lee been trying to ask something what is your closest comparable site location maybe gry County yeah it would be Union or gry County would be probably the closest that we have up in still by the fire still operational yeah the main one I think it was six or 800 servers Reed but we still

have the units that we have pictured on the outside that we bu out we sometimes will take and and bu out the substations and great feers puts like that so we can get more power out substations I believe that's what we I would like to ask so when you say you shut down you're shutting down the fans you're shutting down your whole computer system you have a battery backup or you just you're not operating at all everything is completely no it's never it's never completely s the fans will will come down um and the computer will basically sit title and do nothing so like I said we'll we'll go from you know 10 megawatts not saying in this location 10 megawatts down to I think it's somewhere around 12200 below kilowatt hours in a matter of five minutes then we just sit there very quietly until the power becomes more affordable for us we back so it's not affecting your work for your customers yes it okay yeah and they know that if they want a non-interruptible rate like what meta would do what um uh X would do what yeah what alphabet would do um then they know that they're going to pay for it so there will be sites that are going to be developed out back we're building one up in Wisconsin right now there's a very large one about 600 megawatts is what we're looking at per a Target which that's quite large um it will take about 450 acres of land so that would be a different story that would be a non-interruptible service that would have to run 247 will that be Ling too no process AR so basically they're kind of like a mini they're all servers that you're putting in correct so it's like a

mini station of what is in De Moine like with Google or alphabet and Facebook and apple they all have data centers in De Moine yes and in in in P County which are they're actually quite large there so this is just a mini what's there correct um I think it's alphabet which is Google um is putting it a 75 million doll investment in my town in C where I'm yeah so um we're not trying to Target those top seven companies that use it we're trying to Target the 400 that are below that needed um if you look at how expensive that is coming along in California so here in Iowa Wisconsin um and Oklahoma is where we're kind of concentrating on uh we pay about 4 cents a kilowatt hour it's all in and um if you look at going out to California they're at 68 cents so if you're using 5 megaw of power in Iowa you know utility gos a couple hundred thousand using that out in California you're talking couple million dollars so people are having to abandon and run everything remotely and so all this is coming from east and west coast into the center of the United States and Iowa was getting to be pretty cool 15 years ago I worked for IBM in debuk and I managed customers who had servers in Lexington Kentucky uh we had another two in Colorado and then I think another one in Georgia and so very similar where we would keep track of the the storage units and yeah and what we do is we target companies that don't want to do that that don't want to pay five people or three people to sit and maintain servies all day long and pay for the extraordin

power that you know they have to pay for um it's just it's just not what they do if you look at like Circle K credit card processing that's they R convenient stores they don't know what dat are so they just rent space and it's cheaper to them um you know 1.1 million investment in this data center and it's a small one comparatively speaking to like I just said 7750 million for very large so they don't want that expenditure either so they just r space yeah just trying to make sure we got everybody Tak care here so any comments on so is this like a chain link gated chain link community that nobody can get in yes biometric security and then will it I'm just asking because we kind of went through this in doing something with the wind turbine where we wanted phone numbers for companies contact will that be posted readily available if there would be a fire if there would be a Breakin if there would be I mean who who gets contacted I believe that's yeah I mean whoever our site need is so I mean each site will have its own lead and they'll be responsible for you know um you know being part of the community and and you know so those they would be the the point of contact first and then it would go out to maybe then their supervisor probably JP like would be yeah I think we're required to have the fire locks to get into the gate as well as an external source to be able to shut the power off so they don't have to call it back and say they shut us down they can just switch it down and and start fighting whatever to fight or keep it them from happening

thank you I have a question um if there was to be a fire would our fire departments be equipped to put up a fire and also would there be any hazardous materials that would result from a fire at your location so that would be a question I guess for the local fire department here gry Center was was able to put it out I'm going to assume the forces are probably the same size and I don't know if Bry Center's volunteer or not I don't think that uh I think the closest fire department is not that close so could be an issue if there was a both five miles apart Mary speville and and Preston or Preston and 5.7 they're both yeah they're all volunteer and I mean the same I mean with gry County I mean they had a holl of water like you know I mean you know it was think Wellsburg was the closest uh fire department so but to answer their question no there's nothing special like I said it it you know things have to be put out with water um other than like the computer you know they just pretty much melt um at Grandy County Melrose we don't have to have any special um contamination yeah hasn't had anything get rid of what what was there other than scrap so you know and being good neighbors you know like making sure that we're just taking care of that scrap and um spoken of it properly Mary you don't want to breathe this fire um it's will have toxics released into the fire but I mean I don't know a fire that doesn't have that so um that would be your only danger there's like I said there's no decontamination of the area in gry

Center it was not treated like a chemical fire it's treated just like a normal residential fire put out with plain water is the blue plastic or a metal type that would be that's metal okay who we have permission to speak yeah we're just kind of I yeah so we're randing Ronda Rowan so we're the closest neighbors to this facility that they're you guys are proposing and we moved there in 1987 for the peace and quiet of living in the country and we haven't had anything uh as far as noise other than egg noise which is perfectly fine but we we don't want this 500 foot from our house and I don't care how many decb it is um you know I know you guys want to sell the power and you want the tax and all that but you know we're we're the ones left holding the bag we don't want we're here to be land to be partners in this cooperation we're here to be good neighbors we're here to to move in and utilize the excess energy that's available at this substation as we mentioned the noise will be less than 45 DB and at at the adjacent properties and we've done sound studies to show that this will not negatively impact the country environment for the the reason why you move to this area it will bring jobs the area and local taxes but we're not here to change your environment we're adding 16 exhaust FS to the which will exhaust air from this facility that's that will not negatively impact any of the houses um from our analysis

or nearby agricultural or farming animals so we we would like to be good neighbors that's why we're going through the public comment process and understand that new things and new Industries um there there's a lot of speculation around what's actually here and what's actually coming we're here to answer that with facts and data but we're not here to change your current uh living circumstances and that's what we don't want but what about uh property value if we want to sell our place I mean there's going to be ship basically shipping containers sitting there with an ous there you you're not I don't think youbody talked about water you're not going to drill well there correct at this location as Charlie mentioned at this location we're not drilling a wall we can we have drilled walls at other facilities and have brought in water um uh but this this facility we are not and and this is this is hiding behind a basket of trees off the road and and away from your you know the other properties uh I don't see we have not seen this impact property valuations negatively at six of our other facilities in Iowa that has not been uh an in an issue for those other property owners sir my name is Ronda Rowan and I also own the property with my husband Randy you speak of being good neighbors all the time in your in your talks we have been informed by the County Supervisors that this has been in the works for six months but yet we received a letter in the mail only a week ago week ago today about this meeting we're on vacation you know otherwise we would be there we are in Arizona on vacation we have received data and emails on the Wind from your

people from Trent Willie and you say it's 45 we have constant 57 is what some of the videos show is 57 DB we have the videos in the email they came from your people sir and you and you say good neighbors would have you spoke to us about how we would feel about having this in our backyard may I ask the people in that room on the board would you like to have a vacuum cleaner running in your house 24 hours a day seven days a week and these people who say they are good neighbors have never said a word to you this is this is the process we have to go through in order to obtain a permit and that involves the notice that you guys received because you are a close property owner we're not inst we're not saying you're going to hear a vacuum cleaner that's 75 DB that would be right next to the facility from 409 feet away the decel reading is 52 DB from 370 ft away from the opposite side where your house is located um that's 41 DB as you can see from this screen shart here with the sound recording we're we're we're not here to install something that's a that's a nuisance to you and we're sorry we didn't reach out earlier uh we can improve our process and reach out to nearby land owners and we will do that moving forward but this is the process that the county has set for us in order to get a conditional use permit to utilize this facility or this land in this way okay we still don't want it I mean that's our position that's and it will be and we are the closest people that live there who this will affect the most for the rest of our

lives for the next 10 years for sure and which property are you guys on the map just to make sure I understand we the house where the where the's property own 500 feet away so you guys are 675 ft away from the parcel and you're facing the direction that's not I told I was told 500 I I didn't walk it off I I saw the uh I saw what was uh surveyed off I I wed I saw the uh Willie brothers land that was Sur surveyed off I was I didn't measure it from there to our property I was told it was roughly 500 so between 500 and 675 ft with the fans exhaust fans facing away from the residential area the noise uh to to your property would be less than 40 Deb which is the average home noise and is not a vacuum cleaner as mentioned we are not we do not build facilities where their houses nearby we take this into consideration our site selection process and selected this site due to the distance between your house and the facility if it had nothing to do with the cost of electricity either in Jackson County that didn't that was not a part of your your your proposal looking at the cost of energy efficient electricity and the cheaper price in Jackson County Iowa we we do have to work with the utility to get our electric rate yes we start with the utility when the utility we have a rate we then move to locating they give us a list of substations and their available capacity this substation the one rogerville came up and uh there was capacity available that members are paying for that is not being used which is directly increasing the price of

energy to all members when this facility is not being used but being paid for because it's been built so we intend to move into this area build this modular Data Center and lower energy cost for nearby residents okay I everyone knows our opinion the bottom line is it doesn't matter sir we are still not in favor of having in our backyard having this in our backyard that's our that's our stance on it 37 years we live there paid taxes in Jackson County Iowa sorry I was just writing down if few points uh that I want to respond back to Jean Paul about um hi I'm Jen Kut I own Farm ground in makoka area and I also um am a taxpayer in a certain way for Jackson County but I do live in Clinton County full disclosure so it sounds like there needs to be a proper ordinance written before the county approves any permits um just overall going through the chat and listening to everyone who is there in person um that would be uh what I would like to really see and really would ECT the county for considering uh before they Grant any any permits going forward um as there's a lot of chat going on there are several counties who approved maybe one facility and then definitely turned down any future facilities and I have to wonder why um I also would highly encourage in the ordinance to have uh Provisions about fire suppression systems um ince certifi cied Professionals for sound testing and I would like to ask what is the average daily electricity bill for one of the mining facilities from one of the representatives there

please that's a question this this facility would be roughly $4,000 a day in electric usage once fully running okay and how much was the megawatt uh this facility is under I believe two and a half megawatts so two and a half megawatts I thought I heard five or six earlier so I just wanted to make sure because a couple years ago The Gazette did a great article about um actually interviewing you John Paul and they mentioned uh how uh the electricity bill of the granny Center was about $5,000 a day and they also mentioned you know I think you're up five or six megawatts at that facility and that uh the uh college which I believe is um up in dor Laur uh it's not luris it's the college in dor that they um they only had in the summertime they were using up 2.5 megawatts and that's a college with you know hundreds of students in it they're using that same megawattage for just their summer students so it sounds like a lot of energy being consumed um so anyway I want to go back to a couple things I put in the chat uh some of them were answered um how I know you keep saying that we're not going to see any increased rates uh but I have to say and play The Devil's Advocate that um RC and mo COK Valley have actually already put out a notice to increase rates because I'm assuming that they understand the relationship that they would be having with you going forward so I'd like just point that out I don't need response back close your three minutes I gotta stop you there I'm not sure which R quoting at that big rate increase it is not in the POG Valley Electric no I understand that but they are affiliated that so we're going to

correct the record because I am on ourc and do not have any rate increases the last rate increase I got was probably 12 to 18 months ago okay I will send you a copy of Mine Monica that that's fine but it doesn't that whatever your rate increase is for that RAC does not involve what is going on right now in Jackson County Jen can you wrap it up in the next 30 seconds or so I'm going to say one thing please note the recent Moss Landing fire in California I can share an article with that where an independent third party in the area had identified higher concentrations of toxic chemicals in the land after the incident there a lot of differing views on whether or not there was a risk to the residents in the area or not so one important point this California area is a key area for providing food and I think that is a similarity to our own area here uh we have to consider if there an event that contaminated the ground or even just a crop and the risk it could play for the Liv livelihood of our Farmers if they had a similar incident have their land contaminated especially if the Waterway was impacted thank you I'm done thank next um kman Paulson would you like to ask your question um I think the first one was answered the second question I had was why specifically that location if they're purching this purchasing the land and not leasing it in Jackson County and I apologize if that what was already answered the utility provided us this substation and mentioned it had excess spare capacity and that's why this location was selected okay can you I know you reiterated just a little bit ago about how there was excess there and how can can you go back to just restating what you had St said before Jen spoke about how there was excess energy that was not being used so that is why that location

was chosen yes so the substation um let's say it has a 5 megawatts capacity at the Transformer we're adding 2.3 megawatts of load at that substation and the utility told us hey this substation has excess capacity year round and even when everyone's using the energy there's still extra uh capacity there that we're not able to build a customers uh directly and so all members of makoka Valley are picking up that substation charge and they said that this would be potentially a location for us to locate a property and build a facility at and so that is why we chose this location okay what what if any are there benefits to any of the neighbors around that substation or anyone in Jackson County the benefits would be this this County sales tax on the energy the state sales tax on the energy the hiring of a local resident um the housing of a local resident working with electrical contractors and investing Capital with those electrical contractors to complete work working with dirt work uh local dirt work people of the county working with local um local Builders to to put up the the building area work area uh working working with local network uh networking networking um installers to install the the internet at the facility uh paying for a local internet connection paying for for electric power and increasing the usage of energy at the substation which is being charged to all members uh those are just some of the things that would go in to this facility as uh as Charlie mentioned we'll be investing over a million dollars into this facility and is that guaranteed all local people that you'll be using to do all of those things you just listed off within Jackson County or within at least the 20 mile

radius yes we work with local contractors and bid out our work uh locally for each facility we build and where is that stated is there a contract that state said that you'll use local people within Jackson County to fulfill all of those duties and jobs or is or is it just your word we bid out our project to local electricians local networking groups local internet so it's we're finding people that are in the area our contractors that do our work in Marshall County or and do not come over to to this part of Iowa to do work uh we have to go to a local electricians and local contractors for the work so it's not uh something it's not something that's in writing or required from the county but it's something we do because we're working with uh people on this land and it's the contractors who bid the projects uh that usually bid the lowest price or the best most competitive price are local contractors who don't have to travel or get hotels okay so you're you're you're just going to give it to the cheapest I guess I'm just confirming that when you say local you're not just going to send it to somebody in Cedar Rapids Davenport or debuk and get the cheapest price you're only going to send bids with to people within Jackson County if that is part of our conditional use permit we would be happy to follow that compliant that guideline okay and then one more question back to the electricity uh or not electricity the energy when you were speaking about there's unused how much will you be using of the unused um energy we don't have the specifications on the substation uh the utility does the calculations themselves and they tell us how much is available for us to purchase and and so they have made sure that according to the growth plan of this area and this substation that they can accommodate that uh they don't put any future expansion plans that are you

know at In Harm's Way because of this project and we've seen in other locations where they've said hey this isn't available anymore because the community is growing um and and there's no more capacity so I don't have that answer and I I apologize you were talking a little bit about um the fire departments have there been conversations with the local fire departments if there was a fire to break out we have not had conversations with the local fire department um at this time but this is all standard electrical equipment that's you C ified and follows those certifications for electrical safety okay thank you um Marcus did you want to ask your question Markus have a couple comments in his first was why are they planning on resoning Farmland when there are a lot of commercial land for sale in that's going to go back to infrastructure um if you look at most of our our projects are very close proximity to substations and so um if we start going out 2 3,000 4,000 ft away from the substation it increases the infrastructure cost by leaves in Balance if you think of running a a wire that will carry 2 megaw in it which is B wire and think okay now there's loss over distance if everybody's aware of that it's electric there's loss over distance so now the further we get away the bigger that wire is and it goes from you know $35 a b $50 a b $80 a but really quickly so we try to be as close to substations as we possibly can so identify that we identifi the land

owners and and obviously relase land usually that land is yeah that's where substations usually are unless they're right in the middle of the city and we're not flopping down anybody's basement anytime soon here's what I can tell you about that my husband and I built a new house or building a new house and one of our concerns was our electricity so I contacted makoka Valley before we decided to build because it depended on where we were at where we were going to build our property our house sits at the very end of the line on makoka Valley and I wanted to put the house on the west side of the property my husband wanted it on the East side we put it on the East side because in order to build out my makoka Valley Electric it was almost $220,000 that's just for a house so I understand the need to be close to a substation in order to put something that is drawing a lot of electric and I I come from kind of the inter sector I've been there about the Last 5 Years and um I've had plenty of people that are in your situation that have come to me and ask me about crit solar because power company is going to charge $75,000 to trench in line and it's it's real it's a lot of money um some of these trenches are $200,000 trenches just to get from point A to point B so that's mine was above ground yours was above that was above ground so so no we're boring horizontally underground under Rivers under creeks and all that J to get to some of these sites I'm not saying that we're we're going long distance I'm I'm looking into board under I 61 in southwest Iowa fores too that sounds like going be nightmare so um that's simply what it is it's just easier are these feeder lines a underground in this facility then to

from the assciation from our interconnection everything is ground except for the Transformers there there going to be a couple different Transformers that feed these data pods and then there's going to interconnection actually going to be sitting closer to the sub station but we interconnect with them but yeah everything's going to be underground ex set for those pieces why you decid to purchase in this case versus lease properties um it's usually dependent upon the landowner my first the list purchase but if they don't want to sell do you own other properties yeah just bought a 7.19 Acres down to mustt um I can't tell you exactly how many acres I bought a couple up in Wisconsin actually I think quite a bit in Wisconsin but it just kind of depends Islands really love their land really don't make yeah that's I hear that a daily basis I love the land wisconsinites have very sandy soil in a lot of places I've been so they're not really that far love with it they have to irrigate it constantly um they irrigate it one day and the next day they got to do it again if it's a dry season so they're more willing to yeah go ahead how much do you want that's sobody else here Becca yes um mark question Travis keeper did you want to ask your question gra see you there [Music]

does the uh iPhone want to ask their question what are the vibrational effects on livestock and other environmental impacts is that about the vibrational effects yes vibrational effects on livestock and other environmental impacts there's nothing in the ground um it's only sitting on top of a concrete pad as mentioned uh so you we've not had any complaints or notice vibration uh in the ground or surrounding area so you should not feel any vibration from this these developments a lot to to vibrate Earth to where it would be bothered have a question um out at Union were this other plant is there is there how close is the closest neighbor to that facility I don't have answer um the closest facility we have a facility it's called St Anthony Iowa and the closest neighbor is under 600 feet away facing the exhaust fans that neighbor has never had a complaint about sound um the closest livestock is at the Union facility and we've had cows and sheep a photo I did post in the the CH the meeting chat here of come up to the facility have no issues next to it graze by it um so there hasn't been an issue either with livestock um or with residents at these facilities is there a way we can talk to

them and ask them their opinion just personally yeah if if we we do provide landowner references for land owners we work with um we're happy to provide a reference if it's requested by the board I three different people call my references and nothing was ever terribly said the one thing is we have been working with a particular land owner and then we never got far enough to actually install the equipment but as far as as the process is to the land owners nobody's had a problem never anybody say get off land no I'm not talking pay got talk to somebody and and they have them on their property we make sure once again we don't set up anywhere where I have to come back here and I not physically where I have sit here and have conversation I told live that you can hear it a dry summer night and like I said if you do end up hearing and something happens there are ways to mitigate that this particular site is one of the best sites we have because we're aiming right into trees and we're not customer house so nobody I understand people's concerns I completely understand people's concerns I I wouldn't want this on my property directly next to my house because they're they're loud Point Blank but 1.1 million in the ground and is that thrown down the toilet because we just wanted a GE worth of operation can't make our money back in year so they're they're L but from the proximity of all the other homes we feel comfortable that nobody's going to hear

especially with this site being kind of in a valley we annoying trees the trees not house something we we have cows that lay underneath those shade trees in that corner okay and we're wondering if that's going to keep them from laying in getting out of the sun when it's hot in the middle of summer laying in that Shade that's way here well no I guess I've had people ask me what does it do to sheep or what does it do pigs or what does it do whatever if if you have a sheep or a pig that doesn't like something and I ask far some point blank if you have a cheaper pig that doesn't like something what do the cheaper Pig do run and so that's one thing but they're not running away as J said they there's a picture in chat that has against raing so doesn't seem sh pass except pretty much there can you do anything to be proactive in like when you build it you clean trees into a cluster trees I don't have a very good picture of it but I brought it up on Google just to see where it was at before I had this conversation and there's a cluster of trees that are there that we're going to have to tear down some of them to be able to get that spot viable in the first place but like I said there there's a very area right there anybody are you familiar the area at all where our site lives in the trees so if it if there was ever a danger what we would do is just pay more for the equipment and put different

equipment going to be blowing right this way okay and so that's the nurse residence correct that's and is is this occupied over here I I realize that just from what I'm looking after the notes I don't everything else buildings and no one no one lives there yeah we're not sayone I know I I pulled this up the other day and I because I wanted to look at it see who was close anything else Becca um Mary had a question um her is the facility man 247 mayy you have anything else you may unmute and speak also um it is this particular location will not be man 247 um there I don't think we ever have a need to have anybody come out at night so it would be worked on between 95 and a lot of this is on remotely and we do have that we do monitor the sites all all of our sites are on camera so we are able to access at least visually all of our sites and on site we usually have somebody there from8 to five are they mainly maintenance are they mainly maintenance they're not operating during High during the day right the camera no no no the employees the two employees that will be there yes they're just maintenance on the servers corre yeah or yeah thank you um Ashley Johnson her question you may also speak and unmute and speak if you'd like Ashley um how do they cool these pods don't they generate a lot of heat what is all the energy needed for what chemicals are used for coolants

does that not claim fire hazards so I mean the there there are no coolants that are being used that's where the fans come in um the the miners themselves the computer boxes is what it's a lot of the Heats that's why we have the fans blowing heat out so that's where you're getting a lot of that noise but there is no like coolant or any anything else other than band use um that is cooling these pods if a fire does occur what do we do with chemicals being emitted into the air or ground and close water sources and are there steps to in place to minimize the problem again this would only have plastic and metal there's not going to be any chemicals no fluids at this facility so those contaminants would need to be removed from the water but would not be any liquids that would seep into the water supply may I ask you didn't clarify that was my question I'm Ashley Johnson but didn't that lady just say that there was coolant in the air conditioners and now you're saying there's no chemicals I'm confused could you clarify yeah the fans are passive exhaust fans so there's no coolants there's no there's there's no coolants it's a passive exhaust fan with a motor and a blade and and a belt sometimes so there's no there's no cooling Loop there's no Refrigeration it's only a passive exhaust and I believe that's what Tasha said as well the only place would be in the workers's office office um that would be the only place that to have like a window air conditioner thank

youy Center it was had quite a few servers in it and there's a YouTube video of a blogger or a blogger that went in had it and I believe it's somewhere around 25 degrees outside and if you go to part the facility where the fans are kind of concentrated it was still 90° in that area and they don't be in that area so they take the equipment out to work on Amanda rickardsson feel free to unmute your question is what will this do to our energy rate we just got a rate increase of almost 12% that's okay so say again we can't comment directly on the energy rate we have seen from from the USDA uh US Department of Agriculture we have lowered the energy rate at facilities we've built uh but we we can't comment on it and we'll let makota Valley if they want to comment on that but we we have seen a reduction but we can't we can't say that that's going to happen and I don't think they can either it was just that if they're going to be using so much more electricity just common sense to me would be supply and demand with be they're using more we're going to have to all pay more well Amanda today we were turned off for over eight hours because the energy prices um you know they they grew in price and the community needs the power because it's so cold in Iowa so during this time we build flexible demand flexible load and we turn off that load giving the power back to the people in in order to meet the demand when everyone wants to turn on their light switch and get electricity immediately or turn their heater on you need either natural gas plants that can meet that demand or flexible load you can turn off so by having a load like ourselves that

prevents the utility from having to go onto the market and buy higher priced energy and it's they can tell us to turn off so that's why we reduce energy costs versus make them more expensive is because we're running when no one else needs the power and then when everyone needs the power we're turning off because we consistently consume power every single day the utility can count on us to bid our power into the something called the day ahead market and buy energy there for us and then like I said give it back to the people when um we're not running because the price is too high or because everyone is using the power and the there's too much Demand on the grid so that's how we're not we don't run 247 we turn off um when when it doesn't make sense for us to run and the utility tells us when we need to turn off to give the power back to the community Mary had another question that said I do not know why you can produce this heat and fire hazard without having water lines to mitigate immediately metal boxes on the inside some plastic yeah They Don't Really burn or not V on fire yeah clarify that this the facility surrounded by grass inber I know you spoke as to you know one of the benefits is decreasing um decreasing

the energy cost for residents um but just to verify you're not able to comment on for an example what other communities have seen POS I'm I'm not aware of any but that's not really kind of my department so speak I don't know if you heard that question maybe at all it was about commenting on the energy reduction price reduction for members done that any of our facilities yeah we we've we've wrote a case study and I shared that case study in the chat here and I believe we presented it today that case study is a cheaper energy rate for all electric customers and comes from data from the USDA US Department of agricultural uh these cooperatives they can get loans from that government agency therefore we filed a foer request a freedom of information request for all the all the utilities we work with we're able to show we reduced the ener reduced the cost of energy for all members by up to almost 20% so we we have seen this and this is backed by data from the government themselves and the financial forms uh filed with these utilities uh for these loans and this was from directly from our facility being installed uh so so we have seen improvements and there's plenty of studies there was another one in Texas where Texas rate payers were saved $18 billion because they didn't have to install the Natural Gas peer plants to meet the demand of residents during the freeze Texas freezes when everyone needs power so instead of the rayer paying for these new natural gas peer plants which are harmful to the environment and would have cost rate payers $18 billion doar flexible load Bitcoin mining is an opportunity to prevent uh investment into those type of resources and that's what we're here to install today Jared would you like to ask your question I guess if you'd like to unmute

I will ask your question how about a percentage of Bitcoin mind um Carin uh her other question was is someone from Rec or po valley there at the meeting yes well I'm here but I didn't come to represent po electric that's the reason I'm trying to be quiet back here I can answer any questions I can but I want to make it clear I'm staying absolutely neutral on whether this is a good thing over in Springville or not I'm staying out of that part Tim Shen if you would like to unmute yeah just a couple quick questions you did mention John Paul the there the existing agreements you have elsewhere are public record foia or is that something you you can just have on in the public venue uh the existing utility uh tariffs are all public record every utility um has a public tariff uh the actual financials of the utility is available via a fouryear request um to the federal government or the department of agricultural for the finances of a Cooperative who receives USDA funding but our agreements with them are are confidential but as mentioned the rates that we pay just like every rate payer is public and can be viewed on the utilities website very good thank you the other question I have and might be a little more difficult is why did uh blackhaw County and Woodbury County both Say Never Again so Woodberry County and black HW County are counties that we've applied for um conditional use permits in similar to this meeting today uh We've successfully acquired conditional use permits in over 10 count I in Iowa and

those two did not approve it uh Woodburry County was um concerned you know for multitude of reasons similar to the ones being brought up today uh coming to noise and a misunderstanding of how the sound would emanate from the facility blackhaw County uh was not interested in my opinion in the energy use that would be increased U from this facility and the act the usage of of energy um so those are the two counties that you know were did not approve us and and we do have an operating facility in Woodberry County uh but that was the reason why they didn't approve at least from from my perspective of those meetings yes that's I guess that's where I was coming from it's my understanding that Woodberry rejected your company because there was an already existing one that they weren't particularly impressed with and and it was a 5 nothing vote and I just thought maybe you could shed a little bit more light on that from your perspective obviously there's you know the things we we've never had a complaint at that facility from a nearby land own there's never been a complaint with the county so what I think you know occurred was that there was um a nearby landowner that was was concerned and and and read things online that were were not necessarily true about our industry and then um there was a an outcry and and then they came to the meeting and and they they denied the permit uh for a year at that facility we can reapply in one year uh for that facility and we are not reapplying because then the utility change the rate class on us and so that facility is no longer uh does not make economic sense anymore to build and operate at it all right thank you I was able to unmute but their question is what type of night lighting will be used zero infrar um BFI feel free to unmute um

your question is what is John Fall's interest in the Midwest best and why Iowa I I said I've been building the you know the company in Iowa since 2019 someone posted an article here about me as a College Dropout I did drop out of school and I started this business with uh money from friends and family and this company we support 23 local Iowans that come to work uh usually young men ages uh 19 to 30 um that that come into work and work in the IT department I chose Iowa because it has the most wind power out of any state in the United States as a percentage of energy generated and it's important that we we use green energy so that it doesn't go to waste because most electricity is generated isn't used but we still pay for it maybe not as rate payers but as Federal taxpayers so that's why it's important to me to be building in Iowa and to be building in the US is uh to to to provide to use clean energy number one but also provide opportunities to young men and women that are not able to necessarily get it jobs in the rural Midwest and if I could just add on to that question please thank you for your response so do you support industrial wind turbines and solar in Clinton and Jackson counties I don't develop wind or solar I support using the energy that we have available and uh utilizing clean energy of all sorts next question is from Dr Ron if you would like to unmute you may um your question is back on fire if a fire happens what Beyond then the sprinkler system if the fire department is to start working the fire there are chemicals that would be released from the equipment that could be drained out into the ground how is that

handled as mentioned so we have no no chemicals for cooling other than the the small HVAC unit and heater unit in the work area um and and that that's your traditional you know air uh window size unit um so there's no chemicals that liquid chemicals that would be released you'd have burning of plastic burning of metal in the event of a fire uh and but there would be no no no liquid chemicals so there's Ron Ron just follow up on that so um you know with it being Data Mining and and a data center you're going to have a lot of computer systems in there and they use a lot of different size capacitors and things like that that are oil filled or chemical filled along with the the backup battery systems so there is going to be more than just plastic burning we we don't have backup batteries and our capacitors uh we don't have capacitors each one of these systems has uh radiators which are you know metal to dissipate the heat but there's no capacitors and there's no large backup battery systems that's so there's no capacitors on those circuit boards at all the there's no capacitors in the sense of industrial size capacitors for for load balancing of a grid I mean I do understand that there's not going to be industrial sized but you're G to have an industrial sized M data mining center with a industrial sized you know racks you know how many racks are in this system and how many you know uh processors are going to be there I'm assuming you're using either n Nivea or the the new one that's out there so we are using computer systems we're not using Nidia or AMD um and those do have CPUs on it but that is silicone uh so there's no capacitors there um in the power distribution units there could be capacitors but those are not liquid filled capacitors those are solid state

capacitors but when superheated those chemicals do liquefy not a solid state capacitor really it's an Alum it's an aluminum capacitor okay we keep our questions strictly to the seing part since that's what we're here for I think we've gone over enough with the other information for now I believe I hit everybody's question in the chat but if I didn't please unmute and ask it now more questions I guess I just have I mean I know with the wind we went to 50 DB at the property line that would be one thing I would like the board to consider would be since it is a 247 nuisance um I think it would be fair to the neighboring Property Owners to to keep it at the property especially with you guys you say can plant trees or shrub to mitigate that to keep it combined without a waiver being signed or something if you're okay with you know on the neighboring property um I consider that I guess one yes another question on I should say a question comment most of these sites that I seen are out wide open measuring these DEC levels messed up this location kind more down area which um outward sounds we won't hear so much but the joining neighbors the close by neighbors will do kind of a anytime it's in a battle they will give an ech effect so it actually magnifies some um yeah if the board wants to put

in know a sound variant into into zoning I we n that so so 45 DB you know 50 DB whatever you want to do we have no problem do um the only problem I guess I'm lying and looking at the legality evidence who going to hire person going to do the now are they going to be by you guys or is it party or is is this enough to the point to where there's a nuisance level that has been brought up to County which J said we haven't had that it should be bor will that cause the board to look at who should be hired to be able to do this and have us pay for not just where it get kind of sticky but the wind didn't we specify that that the company had the turbine company had to pay for a third party independent to monitor the deciel already answer this that's the wind not that conditional approval possi yes you could I'm just saying that we're we're sitting here telling you that and if you want to back putting something in black and white to make everybody feel better that sound is going to get mitigated one question do they do you know do they happen to be centrifugal fans or they act fans they're direct D fans if we have now one more questions we'll post the public hearing a motion to close public hearing Mo close public

hearing more discussion on this from us so uh all in favor closing public hearing say I I I anybody oppose public hearing is closed so now Laura you want to bring up what we can do what we can do here all right so the business in front of you is to determine what excuse me which zoning District this would be allowed under um since it's not specifically this type of business is not addressed in our in our zoning or it's it's a two-fold process the first process is to determine which zoning District um this would be applicable to and then the next step would be um other conditional uses deter as determined by the board of adjustment So currently this is zon A1 so you're you're you would have to determine if this would be the district for this type of operation I've included um in your paperwork um A1 zoning C1 zoning M um M1 and M2 so I've included all those and then after if it's not A1 zoning that it best fits you would determine which zoning distri it was and then whether this area is conducive to being Zone to that other zoning

District okay so do we need to have a motion set forth before we can do discussion on any of this we can discuss we can discuss it okay any any suggestions or Direction the might to go as to which district we want to go to in my opinion then it could be wrong I think an M1 would fit this better so that's on page 15 and there's still be some conditional use in there yeah and then also do you guys have the zoning map in front of you that um I printed off um just a map of the county that kind of looked like this that should be part of your packet look at that and what that does is it shows you I have a zoning layer up on that it basically what you're seeing everything within several miles of that site is zoned A1 um it isn't until you get close to Preston that you start seeing commercial and Industrial zoning and that's not in town it's close to Preston so it's rural uh Lori real quick if I can mention we did apply for a special exception not a resoning correct but we have a two-pronged um we we're twofold here

since this is not part of our zoning ordinance we don't have it as part of um permitted use or conditional use we have another step in there for the board uh excuse me for the zoning commission to determine which district this would be under so that's why we're um April and I kind of discussed it she was your contact person that had been emailing and um Talk calling so yes this might require resoning if they if they choose and um did you get our packet did that get sent to you I have the application uh here and I can I can find the packet real quick okay well it's thank you for the clarity okay all right board or commission rather anybody else have any recommendations sorry under M1 I mean we've been told that the noise is not going to be offensive or anything but under number one it does mention that I would say MC oh I think that number one is in almost everything isn't it um I I know you guys are concerned about noise I no I'm just say were looking where to put it yeah and that's and I know that with the M1 um

M1 talks about the minimal noise um no offensive noise can I just point out something here for M2 um M2 and there special exception inst structure uses it kind of draws um a line about not being closer than a th000 feet to any dwelling unit just if that was something that you guys were concerned with there it wouldn't require um um that would be yeah that would be part of that um allow you know permitted special special exception using them2 actually that's the same thing it's in um it's M1 also if you br under special exception use oh I bet oh excuse me um disregard that that's for anhydrous ammonia I apologize okay there's already I mean

are we still talking with Laura yet tonight can we vote to do some more studying on this get some more questions answered before we make up our mind as to what it is yeah we're we're after this that's the reason I'm sticking around is after this we go into the whole thing with Laura too right so here's my question because with zoning we're looking at resoning this for the property wait I have a question do we have to look at resoning or if it stays as is it's not eligible to be there no it can still be there we would have to do we would have to do condition possibly live it at A1 we yeah we we can oh yeah we could leave it at A1 and have and have um a a restriction so we do not have to reone it it can soon as May one and we can put a condition use so I have a question whether we need a whole another ordinance for this if they're they're building not just speci this company but a lot of these companies are building all over Rural America and if we're going to end up with more of them here so I'm gonna argue that point with you because if we start doing if we start building new ordinances on every new business that wants to come into rural into the rural County we're going to end up regulating ourselves to death and I I think that's the right approach to take I I really do because we I mean Tom you and I had this discussion before on what businesses come in yeah are we going to start handcuffing every business that comes into Jackson count now but there are some of these things that are absolutely enormous this looks relatively small but I mean I've seen some that are just absolutely huge in Texas that's but that's also in Texas

we're looking at Iowa I know what's gonna happen if we don't have one that an ordinance that like one that size or like he just said he's doing 450 acres in Wisconsin right with that okay so to me that's huge it it I'm gonna say something here um from a m Valley Electric standpoint that's it all revolves around the capacity y you know and and and it's not energy so much as the capacity that you know is there to be utilized and so at some point if we put too many of these on the system then the capacity has being used up so that was my question about like what might happen in Woodbury and gry county is did they run out of the excess capacity that they had and that's why they were turned down I don't I I can't answer back was Point Blank there was already um people in area that were performing this and it makes noise when you're standing there filming the news group so that's basically what happened is they saw that and they just decided to decline at this time I don't I don't know exactly the whole process I wasn't completely involved in this particular location um that was something that I JB and April worked out so I kind of stay out of it um this is also a situation that JB April worked on and I'm not Savvy to it but I wanted to kind of get hands on with with listening to some of the people in here because um I I hear these from land owners every single day so it's easy for me to answer a lot of these questions because I look it up I've done research [Music] um crew in front of fans that um know I honestly I can't tell you I don't I don't know that we were denied County Blackhawk County I

believes I just met with them in November and they're still wanting to take on more capity so I don't know what that answer is they to take outside of what the demand response that demand response rate is less expensive because they can turn this off and when going up and talking to them those markets can become full and so um when he said that he said in Woodbury County the utility changed now what direction we're going to do that we're decided not go back there is because when they have the demand response when that fills up to excess capacity that's when the utility says okay no more could be put in this particular category of demand response so the markets over there completely changeed where yeah the demand response Market was full so I don't know if that's the case up north here as well but that's typically what happens if there is more transmission available the cooperatives have about an 18 Monon period where they have to put stuff in order to get parts and pieces put together so if they know they're planning because each Co-op does planning on what is going to expand what they expect to expand to expand in the rates that they do it and I don't know you guys do it yearly or quarterly what's that the for your planning new bills things like that pretty much constantly but um once a year we have a formal plan yes so they do planning um and we will be part of that sometimes to where if we're wanting to move into an area and they're planning on putting an additional Transformer and an open Bay and a substation that will ask them to oversize it and help financially along with them build a larger system if there's transmission there so that's kind of what we're starting to look at is transmission is how much is available

as opposed to you know what our needs are so most of the time there might be a five Transformer sitting there but they have an additional 20 megawatt that could be pushed to it if they wanted to so we could add another Transformer there and push it to us but none of these people want us to Max their systems out no and and many of these Transformers can't be run to 100% capacity because that avoid the warranty so there's a lot of different things that we have to do and in no Community have I went in and had to say you know what guys over there can deal with some groundouts every once in a while they're like you're not you're not taking off our members because they they're neighbors so yeah we we will help develop sites out um but when I said Iowa was getting full earlier I was getting full until they start to do the planning and expand out again and um there are once again other markets we can go into but when does their demand response get filled up to and now instead of paying $120,000 a month for utility bills we're paying $250,000 a month for utility bills and that's not financially you know feasable for for us you're not the only yeah thank you okay so if you look through Laura's presentation that's coming up she does have data mining this is I understand I'm just what P are you on uh half pages second this right here and it just says that land use Rec to be determined because we haven't gotten that far so my thought is we need to probably make a decision on this project now because these people are waiting in for us to do something this isn't going to be done until probably July or August yeah okay so we can't so we maybe do something with this one hold

off with any other ones that come up hopefully may put moratorium on or whatever well whatever requestor whatever and then when this is finalized we have a plan so that I can't it's my understanding that it's conditional against the the permitting process okay so as if we're looking at this right now this is not I don't see anything in this project that is listed in what we have A1 it's not listed anyway yeah what would we what would we stretch to make it be something in A1 so if it can't fit in A1 and it can't fit in M2 we're limited to M1 we can do an A1 with a conditional use permit so we can add data mining as a conditional use for this project and only this project yes okay so then instead of per se doing an ordinance for the county would it looked like we would be doing an ordinance for this project no it's the special use the special use we've done special use before right um okay let me reword it would the special use or the conditional commitments that we're going to put on this project be looked at similar to what we did in an ordinance for the win turbines like we would be limiting are going to limit it to decb are we going to limit it to things that we talked about can I answer that question this is strictly a zoning question so I feel comfortable answering this and you can make a special exemption in in on my opinion in agriculture and put as many

restrictions on it as you want you know sound mitigation you know whatever you want to do there and it would it would pertain to this project itself and not still over in any other project right so that's what I'm saying so it would look like an ordinance on this project only so if I'm not using the correct word in saying an ordinance than the conditional commitment or conditional Lor Lor correct me if I'm wrong there but we could do that correct correct to the best of my knowledge let me recant yes to the best of my knowledge yes so to address some of these concerns that were brought up tonight but I don't I personally don't feel that we can do that tonight if we want to get out of here if we all still have questions I guess one of the things that you have to look at what the zoning board is tasked with is the land use okay so land use is what the zoning board is for so and Tom and I had this discussion on projects when you start throwing everything but the kitchen sink into an ordinance for noise things like this does that really fit the purpose of a zoning board for land use so that's my caution on that right now what's on A1 um is not what this project is and I don't disagree with that I do not disagree with so we have to do something about it either add some conditional yes uses or something so I mean if we don't want to call an ordinance but we still have to add that I don't feel that it's I mean if we need to decide tonight that it's

going to be A1 but I don't feel that I am ready to have a whole list of what I would like to add as a conditional something at this point with just this information that we didn't even get to go through them that's my opinion but at the same time the board of adjustment comes in with their with the conditional uses also uh just have I mean this is uncharted waters for me you guys so this is my first time for this but my understanding is uh you guys determine a make a recommendation for the proper zoning district and then special exception use are additional use um that's typically set by the uh set by the board of adjustment and just so you know if I hadn't gotten sick today I was GNA make a man trip up to uh uh shoot where was I going Cedar Falls um they have two data processing facilities on City owned property at two City owned substations um it's not this company's data processing centers but uh it would have given us an idea of sound uh that type of stuff within a certain distance and I was really hoping to uh to have made it there today but it didn't happen yeah when I said there been bad actors in this field yeah there's they're we're not the only company in Iowa that does this obviously not fing the company in the United

States that does this there have been bad actors that have come into this and it popped down and just made all sorts of noise and you know that equipment doesn't look like semi truck like that it can be the same thing there are three different types we're just here my my thoughts right now now are we we put it in A1 and we put a restriction on the decimal level and send it on that way that or we table it which I don't want to do either I'll move that we add it that we continue with an A1 and with a special use of decb similar to our when ordinance 50 50 isn't it 50 Deb at property line at property line we have second on that but we are keeping that need a second for discussion please so [Music] second it's like that potion dies what I was going to say is that 50 DB is so many feet from a residence

also no think you'd have to determine whether it's property line or or uh residence be 500 something Fe from that person that's what if we would have went with right and that's what I but if the house is on the property line yeah it can't be it's not because mine is actually can be within I think can you guys do me a favor and look at the site plan please so here so the proposed site is this one here because this is the substation so this is Theos site this is Rowan's house right here and I I did a measurement on it's like 800 800 roughly from the corner of their house to somewhere in the corner the property kind of corner Center so got any other um recommendations nothing agricultural about in my opinion M1 is manufacturing processing the only reason I was thinking A1 is it's in the middle of A1 everything else

is A1 if it does for some reason after 10 years um be abandoned Falls right back in A1 it's yeah it STS that's ones that I been a part of go exactly that route for exactly that reason is if if this has get pulled out in 10 years and take just I don't I don't foresee well of course never foresee this this happening either but I don't foresee a two acre plot in the middle of rural Jackson County something other than becoming other than A1 unless it could be a residential on but it would still be an A1 for two acres yeah I guess so yeah yeah right right the other issue is I presume you have a RightWay through RC's property to get into it because I don't see any other way they get in there that's correct we will have a right away through the Rec's property and that's will be contemplated in the purchase agreements once they're completed landl so did Monica's motion die second it in okay do you guys want to uh gather more information about what maybe other Counties have for zoning districts for these and uh put this back on for next month I would

I would too sobody want to make a motion to that effect table this till next month got more information a second I'll second all in favor say I I anybody opposed I one opposed tomain motion okay do you guys need a break yeah okay techically Mike doesn't have to vote and last it makes a difference yeah right so we taking a break yeah yes hey you guys I'm gonna go back to bed my head's killing me I'm sorry I've had I I'm done I'm spent so I might try to listen need a oh that's Dale yes I do don't I anyway I'm try to come back in and just listen for the other part okay or I'll play it on Zoom later the neighbors

visual that they except I mean I think a visual is what would help dispel a lot because you can say that I can't find anything bad about this company on and the business practi start bus what does that matter op [Music] so I on my phone actually we were all at except for the one time with spoke up loud it we were in the I don't know well asking questions and you were answering them I'm just I'm in the country too and so I don't know what the noise level is but ioss that I said coming up to it you don't hear it because it the it's shooting out to the east but once I get to here yeah then you hear it I hear it

like a great train and then it goes away obviously the gets well I can tell when they turn them on in country behind right you know type thing but they're fac Wonder compared their Direction so we don't aim them at a house yeah the only thing that would worry me is because I always I always say my kids learn more language from the neighbor yeah bigan yeah yelling at his cattle because it comes right up the hollow you know what Billy yells at his cattle I can't imagine that yells at his dog more than his C this is yeah that's our property so I measured from that what Happ okay is there any contract that you know what your have a contract with each yeah for for at least 3 years if not more to recoup our cost that we're putting in any additional cost we're putting in you know make our members and then you know soens contract between them and Valley

Tom and there so many to say we did it the last anys of lowering the rates are just we may not lower the rates we just what I'll say is that I can't guarantee we not and it has a potential to keep about this hasal keep down well I can't guarantee you our rates are going to go down because there's so many other involved kind of like saying if another McDonald's comes upal right so other costs are going up and everything but but it has a potential to to uh think about is this is a pretty small load you know I mean for us if it goes online before the one over we got one going in our Union sub but this is what

you got be right l oh I love Billy see we get Laur Billy oh yeah how can oh Friday after 10 years then their income taxes are you know subies are gone it's not like that and there's in

thank you take care yeah usually take it back this probably I wondered if like Jean's brother you know he and these guys always that's think either don't know if we put heater or I'm sure I had somebody I know WI okay now we go let's do this thing all right is right yeah that be a little chilly little chilly out there

go ahead okay um Becca can you help me out yes I can okay can you start with the the work session packet let's go with the just start on that first page with the schedule on it and then we'll walk our way through this okay I'm there okay I can't I can't see are you is it on the screen for the Commissioners then yeah okay and for anyone who's on Zoom go is it shared for okay let's see go it's I'm uh yes is it sharing um I'm not it I'm not seeing it this is Mary should No it should be there's a share go to the top of the screen there was always a go go to share right there on the left go to the left no at the bottom it says share click no not that one then there share screen there's something that says share screen petal or packet

final yes yay that's it thank you okay so what we wanted to do for the work session this evening is we're not looking at specific chapters like we did at the previous one I have just a couple of things that are what I would call foundational pieces of us going through the individual District uh sections having some general guidance for you so the th for that it's those three those three uh points the general land uses uh and and parking recommendations uh Item B The Matrix of uses and land use recommendations and then definitions so these together set up a framework for us and I'm just going to keep in I'll just include the schedule every time so we kind of see how we're going along we're doing well I think so let's go to this the next page Becca if you would please I don't know if you can do the whole screen or or excuse me the whole page on the screen but this this is uh a kind of a quick summary of um research that ECI had done for other uh zoning ordinances the general idea here is that we want to come up with parking requirements that are um appropriate for the uses um and to try to keep them as

simple and consistent and as reasonable as possible one of the other things we wanted to do is uh try to simplify ordinances so there there's not a a long list of similar uses but they're grouped into what I'm calling General land use category and so you see a list of those here there the intention is that you could you give some flexibility to the changing um dynamics of how people do business um where people live um where what types of recreation there is so that the ordinance becomes more flexible these are all uses that are grouped based on their parking needs and our thought is that's one of the ways to kind of say that a use is probably pretty similar so on the if we look on the parking analysis side one of the things that um often comes up is floor area so the definition there is what is your current definition and that was a that's a pretty common characteristic and so we use that for a number of uses sometimes things that come into play also might be the number of seats or the number of occupants the number of dwelling units the number of rooms and then there are some other aspects of off street parking that um might deal with stacking for drive-through facilities and so forth hey Laura yes there we go okay why would we do a separate General land use for vehicle sales Serv and repair I'll show you on the next chart

because if we're not doing it for implements like farm implements why would we do it for vehicle sales we are doing it for farm implements if we can go to the if we can go to the Matrix of uses why would that not be and if you go to this to the very go to the next next page Becca so there at the end is vehicle sales and service and the items that are below that that are all of the different related vehicle sales service and repair uses that are sprinkled in your ordinance farm implement sales service and repair is included why would that just not fall under retail why would we need a separate one to break that out well my my question is why why wouldn't we want to group all of these under one heading that's what this is saying no but now you have this laundry list of uses and they all are related to that General land use of vehicle sales and service so why wouldn't we put all of this under retail and not break the vehicle out why is why is the vehicle separate one of the reasons is that there's typically vehicles on display and so if you look at the parking requirements the parking requirement for retail sales and services one per 400 that that's what it is here but then

we also add in the requirement of SP spaces for display of cars for sale or what we probably should say there is vehicles for sale because typically the vehicle sales service and repair are going to have sometimes small sometimes large areas outside outdoor storage or excuse me outdoor display of the various types of vehicles if you if you wanted to put it under General retail we could that that's fine too but that but the general retail shows one for 400 square ft of floor area that's parking yeah parking that's customer Park but it's the same thing here one for 400 square feet of floor area plus display of car cars I and if you don't want to make that distinction that's fine about all display area not under the roof it would include all getting outside we can we can do this however you would like let's let's keep going okay why don't we go back up to the the first page or these General land uses where we going I'm sorry I meant

the first page of the Matrix back up sorry about that okay go why don't you can you move to the ne there there we go so thank you so we have anything that's that's new or is is in red red font for you to see um where we have a a general land use um like Agriculture and it's in a gray band anything underneath it are things that are related to it just like we looked at for vehicle sales and so this is just how this is organized in terms of that column of the general use categories if it's a black font use it's already in your ordinance if it's a red font use it's new the categories with the label A1 R1 C1 M1 M2 are your zoning districts and the uh letters in there are a way for us to record how are the uses being handled or how might they be handled so if they are principal use that's a p if they're an accessory use it's an a if it's a special exception it's an S and then we have some land use recommendations and then the parking recommendations so that's the overall structure of this Matrix um there um so we could I'm not sure what's the easiest way for you all to to want to walk through this um if you had a chance to look at it ahead and had some questions uh like Monica just asked we could do it that

way again this is let me just reiterate this is foundational we're trying to give ourselves a a sense of what is in the ordinance what might be um added to the ordinance so then we go into the individual districts and bring that back for you to look at so by no means does your consensus on things in this matrix mean we can change something later of course we can't we get some kind of a glass where to tell us what PS and a stand for yeah it's right up at the very first line in the heading where it says Matrix of uses P equals principle a equals accessory s equals special exception and then we added t for temporary because we found a number of temporary uses scattered throughout we thought might be good to look at those separately I just couldn't find it up there Laura you're got to put in bigger print I think for some yeah well it was on big print when I started was it really yeah but then when I then when I tried to get it all on one page it got really yeah yeah well I'll try and make it a little bit bigger um you know this is a lot of information so it got to be a pretty so these are the there is there anything on the um first this first page of this General use Matrix that there any questions on General retail was kind of right in the middle there um as we were talking about and then there's some others after

that we could if you don't have any questions go to the next page questions okay why don't we look at that next page Becca thank you and so these were just a few [Music] more just to consider and if there aren't any other questions should we we should maybe go ahead and move on in the interest of time so this this one has in that same Fab L small print the the characters um a a s and then this is uses that weren't really something that fit under a general land use so these were specific again if they're in red font there's something new that we thought could be added and again in the in the charts under the um various District where how they might be handled and so this one there's some of this is in there because individual uses are listed and they sometimes have a little bit of a change depending on where they're allowed um and so there are there are also some instances where um things got listed with different spellings and that sort of thing so this is partly trying to U make sure we have a good inventory of what's in there we understand what it is we add some new uses that um the

staff is suggested and you may have some others um and if we want to go we want to check out that next page of this and take a look at that and so this this section this next page of those specific gland juices doesn't have doesn't have um quite as many red font but it does have some opportunities maybe for some consolidation so kind of looking at things that are listed several different ways so any questions right now on that on either of these Matrix of uses okay if if not why don't we move on to the definitions um there's a lot of information in here um we added a lot of definitions uh most of of the time we tried to use definitions where we could link them to a section of the Iowa Code um some of these are also things that the staff asked us to include uh what I did try to do is go through and give us a definition wherever there seemed to be a term that didn't have one or as in the the case of um agricultural sales service and supply it took a big GL big list of uh uses and made them into that General use so there's a a

kind of moving trying to move things into the definitions um where it reflects what's in your code or reflects what's in Iowa Code or it's something new that referenced in your ordinance but doesn't have a definition so that's kind of how these came about and Becca maybe we could just kind of scroll through these slowly if anyone has a question or comment hadn't had one they were interested in we can always uh find that and go to it um the the other thing that we started to do here is we added some graphics to try try to help the idea being a a picture can help people help the staff explain something um by no means are these the only ones that need to have um illustrations um I've asked the staff and I asked the commission if you think there should be more illustrations or you have some particular issues or definitions you'd like to see illustrations we can work on that and so I think if we just go through these again we're just trying to come up with definitions based on um the Iowa Code where possible or research um of different different um areas um the American Planning Association or sometimes even um the industries themselves might have some some good language see are we moving into uh keep going okay let's take a look at the next

page and keep maybe one more so in the the just under the the definition of dwelling we have a lot of options here um we're still kind of looking for some improvement on that seasonal dwelling we can kind of walk through this Becca but you'll see we had some we we're beginning to have lot of illustrations here you go to the next page to really try to help explain things and then we just I think we just keep going through was there is there anything in particular anyone had any questions on there's a couple definitions where I where we brought in some information from other resources uh family is one of them and just sometimes having more information and different kinds of terms that are used are very programs to help families in this case can help with trying to understand regulations um for the farm definition um we can go to the next page thank you there there are many terms that related to farm in the Iowa Code and so um I pulled those in because I think sometimes that can help staff or the commission or the board of adjustment with dealing

with whatever that might be related to farms and uh as we continue down there's there's additional Iowa Code information about things related to farms in terms of how they operate the products um and so just again trying to have some additional information that might be terms that someone would use and then there's there's a definition at least for some common understanding hopefully we can we can just keep rolling through these Becca um I think yeah we can just go through at that pace that's fine okay here's it this this one I just want this is good we'll just PA us here for a second thank you the homebased business um language in Iowa Code has been recom recommended here to replace the home occupation language that's currently used in the ordinance and in this case the definition has the code pulled right into it and then if you go to the next next page um it then is a melding with your current [Music] requirements the home industry use actually really doesn't need to be

in there anymore it's covered under the way the state code defines homebased business and then um we modify also then the farm homebased business in a very similar fashion so if you go to the next page you'll see we pulled in that same kind of information from the Iowa Code and then combined it with your current regulations for a farm based business so what this does is it gives you compliance with the code of Iowa but it also lets you regulate continue to regulate those businesses in a way that you felt or that has been done and hopefully if you still feel it should be that way otherwise we can change things um just some more definitions um this intermittent or temporary commercial activity um that's when we're kind of discussing whether that still needs to be there is it or is it is it really is are really already covered somewhere um on the next page uh we start to bring in some definitions related to mobile homes um uh logging and then after that we move into a discussion about Lots all different aspects of lots we can kind of move through these they have these have um illustrations and of course we can add more if you want um and then we we move through

again trying to get some definitions for um manufactured home and mobile home and modular homes are all kind of coming up here so Lori asked that we we bring in definitions that comply with the changes in the code and so that's what we're trying to do here and then on subsequent Pages here and again just really trying to pull in anything from either the Iowa Code or the current ordinance that didn't have a definition here um we can keep going just some more information for those General use categories um for various uses for the RightWay um we use both a diagram and an image so um we can do that for this or for other places in the ordinance and in the definitions um sometimes actual photographs of of the uh whatever it is you're discussing is also helpful we're happy to do that with you too let's see I think there's yeah we can just keep going here there's some more illustrations on

setbacks course just some general definitions kind of making way there for that story and a half Lori wants to work on that so that's that's why that one's highlighted um we'll be working on that a little bit more um really just some more really just definitions to try to pull in whatever is in the ordinance with and try to pull in illustrations where we we think they might work to help with understanding something and I think we're pretty close to the end here so again just another type of illustration there using different colors and so just to give you a sense of some of the things that we we've done and can do um this is the clean version um and I don't know that we need to go through it um because it's like 30 some pages so I I'm happy to stop there and U just take any questions or comments from the commission anyway got any questions a lot of information I just a lot of reading I have to do well I what what we do try to do for you is we try to pull from uh from the Iowa Code whenever

possible um or use definitions that are being used um in other ordinances or are recommended but that doesn't mean we can't improve on what we have here so um it's a it's a big increase in the definitions I think there's like about 60 now and we have more than that obviously but I also again encourage you if you think that you you'd like an illustration or a photograph or something for anything in the the definition section especially we'll have we're happy to accommodate that again you have time to look at this um this is not something that's carved in stone it's absolutely you know what you want it to be is what we're here to help help get you to so and with that if there aren't any questions I want to thank you for your time after a long and spirited discussion dat mining thank you Laura thank you you're welcome and thank you for your service appreciate it bye now have a good evening bye so do we have any other business we have to take care of anything from our administrator that disappeared she's back in bed she next meeting will be in March yeah we say third Monday like always right Monday like that's kind of a holiday

what is it not even kind of that's a holiday which what is which one is March 17 St Patrick's Day Day and Bernard that's huge oh yeah Irish Breakfast well I'll be here I guess still at 6m yeah we're still at 6m in March the the other thing I'd like because it won't be you could Mo it I think I might I hope I'm out town and okay to go I to have surgy be able to attend you will or won't won be I won't on the 16th M or 17th Mary yes I won't I won't either well we can move it then my last name is mchu what do you think by I don't do it anymore I tell you the truth you want to move to the 24th that is that a Monday that's a Monday we'll have Board of adjustment that we have of adjustment oh sorry what what works on the other day of the week work how we all that week um Mary are you gone all that week also yes I am so the week of the 24th are you back yes you okay 24 uh yeah been a de Mo for part of the day that I should be no what I not on the 24th that week yeah if we did the 25th Tuesday work for you guys not me I can't remember if I've got I don't have phone here I've got a

meeting are we still in March you said we're still at six o'clock right yeah okay because I have another 5:30 then normally like in April we we go to seven we back it up to seven yeah so but we can't have three-hour meetings no no we've had four I know but I mean first turning it s I know we can okay so can we can we get it done sometime in the week of the 24th thing what about the 10 can we move it a week earlier oh is that work does that work for um the 10th would work for me works for everybody um you want to just check on it yeah send us an email or whatever yeah I I think the 10th would actually work better than the 24th yes savings starts on the night oh yeah it's Commonwealth day okay we have we have time to get it posted right do you have that that's the thing that's got that's what we have to worry about because we'd have to have the deadline for um if can be done because legally you only need 24 hours they say 24 business hours um make the deadline for the papers it's issue problem is there anything that has to be posted in the paper um it would be the deadline for the uh cases which this we have cases do we have anything sched than this one the one we t one that we yet but the

deadline the front until that no we did a public so that's what I mean it's really not they can come and listen but it's really not the deadline for the March is February 20 to get cases in new people coming in or do you know they think you coming in that we have to be discussing yeah applications deadline the 20th February 20th is the deadline um and then we have to get well that would I mean that could potentially still so the deine the paper is that the 27th so Thursday or FR at noon right Thursday by noon so it' be the 27th of February to be posted March why don't you check see if it work get back to us then yes dates line up and we'll check on

the other thing I want I did want to mention that I I personally want to thank John for his service I don't know how many years he was on this John number number he was here when I came yeah how many years have you been on well it kind of depends on whether you go by what the supervisor say or actually when I was here the supervisor have down when I was here like two years before I actually was here you were we didn't have any meetings right well I guess because I didn't know you were came in at the end of Ben's thing yeah right so but it doesn't make that doesn't make any difference but I I want to thank him well anyway yeah came in John John served for well how many years then would it be for you I'm on my second term so I might that five what I wanted to say is John's been was been on 10 or 12 years something like that I don't know I he came on after I started yeah he did but anyway we didn't agree on everything but I I I I agree with everybody on this board all the time well what do you talk about M can I always agree what do you mean I do not have my boots on I think it makes a better board yeah we've had some spirited discussions in the past that's a good way to I just want to thank him for the shance Y on y y I'll make the motion toour second all favor hi hi you thank you night everybody

really want yours either sorry you said we could take we can take if you want to you feel does anybody need