County Commission Agendas - Regular Meeting

This time I'd like to call to order the June 22nd, 2026 Jackson County Commission meeting. And so at this time, I'd like to ask you to turn around and make sure that we call to order the discussion.

I'll start one, Chris Gulley.

Present.

Yes, sir. Two, Paul Kenmore.

Present.

Chairman, Bill Nance. District 3, A.J. Buckner. District 4, Kevin McBride.

We do have a quorum, and so at this time, if you'd please stand, I'll ask you to move forward and bring up our invitations. We'll leave it at that.

Mr. Frank, as a father, we look outside today and tonight and offer a prayer of safety for those that are in the storm path. We just pray that everybody will be safe and everybody will seek shelter and will be spared the loss of life or property damage. But God, it's also evidence of your power that you are the one, you are the creator of all things, and you are in charge of everything, including the weather. So God, we just pay homage to you as the great creator, master of all things. Offer this prayer in Christ's name. Amen.

Attention, salute, pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Amen. We have packaged the agenda for tonight's meeting. We need to add two items, one that came to our attention this past week and is a due date for our next meeting. And that has to do with the Federal Bridge Investment Program grant opportunity. And the second item will be to go into an executive session tonight. So with that, Do I have a motion to approve the June 22nd, June 22nd, 2026 agenda with the addition of work session item seven, discussion item B, public works, three, federal bridge investment program grant application, and item 11, executive session. I have a motion. I have a motion. We have a second. We have a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries. Thank you very much. I don't think we have any awards, Mike, or further comments. We'll move right in to our new business portion of the meeting. In your packet, you have the minutes for the 11th meeting and the May 26th meeting, I'll be able to take a look at this. So do I have a motion to adopt the minutes for the May 11, 2026 meeting and work session in May 26, 2026 meeting and work session? Thank you, Congressman. Do we have a motion? Do we have a second? Second. Do we have a second? Any questions, discussion? If not, all in favor say aye. Aye. Thank you. Tonight we have two boards that we will need to make board appointments to. One is the Economic Providing Authority Board. That is to fill an opening for an expired term, and that term expires July 1, 2026. The second board will be filing appointments for two expired terms. The first board will be the EDA board. We have four applicants. In your packet, you do have the letters of request for consideration as well as information on the candidates. Applicants are Mr. Jim Green, Mr. Green's letter states that they respectfully submit the letter of consideration to be reaffirmed to the tax accounting development authority board. Serving on the board has been an honor and a meaningful opportunity to contribute to the continued growth of Jackson County. During his time on the board, he worked alongside his fellow members and community leaders to make improvements for economic growth, job creation, infrastructure improvements, and long-term development initiatives that benefit Jackson County. Also in the packet, it says board application and in that it states that he has been a member of the Economic Development Authority Board from 1984 to present. He was a member of the Responsible for Water, Sewer, and Gas Board from 1975 to 1987. He also served on the Alabama State Bank Department as Alabama State Bank Department Commissioner from 1903 to 1989. And he is a member of the college. We also know that you know where is the end and then it's well. So we all know. Experiences from them in the divine party. And you're welcome to say that it seems that it is another. I said he wanted to express his interest in the world. As a local businessman, a member of the community, a servant leader, he is interested in developing a campaign to contribute to the growth, success, and contribute to the development of companies to pass down to future generations. He does have a list of qualifications that includes 20 years in the financial industry, all of which has been here in Jackson County. If you see that you can see this is about business economics and the various aspects of business. Experienced in both of them being a community leader in the world of the community. You know, so you're going to be able to not change the power in the world. Here's what we're going to do. I'm going to go over this. Next in The application packet is information from Mr. Rick Wheeler regarding his background experiences. He has a summary at the top that states that submitting the letter of interest for the open position of EBA. He's a seasoned financial finance director, accounting manager, and administrator for the municipal government and multiple divisions in the manufacturing industry. He does list experiences that he has. as the budget finance director of the Scottsboro from 97 to 2024. As a staff accountant for ITC Deltacom from 97 to 1997, period of that year. Also worked with Delta Mills Incorporated as the director of finance and worked with Grant Croft and Associates as an accountant auditor. And next is a... email and list of experiences from Bill LaFella. She was an enthusiast for applying for the EDA board and the E911 board. She has a letter of interest, dedicated to long-time residents of Jackson County, deeply invested in advocating for workforce readiness, educational opportunities, The next two years will contribute to the long-term economic growth of Jackson County. We get years of experience in strategic planning, financial stewardship, and organizational governance. She is a volunteer director and board member for the local 501c free and nonprofit plastic closures. She also has in her disability a list of professional experiences, She was a graduate of the University of North Alabama with a Master of Business Administration. She graduated from Athens State University with a Bachelor of Science in Business Administration and will attend the community college in Rhode Island. Those are the four applicants, Mr. Jim Green, Mr. Rick Wheeler, Bill Gallant. With that, do I have a nomination for appointment as a member of the EGA Board? I nominate Jim Green. We have a nomination to Mr. Jim Green. Do I have a second? I'll second. We have a second. We'll do a roll call vote.

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We have eight applicants to the board. I will not read in detail all of their applications, but we have Mr. James Ballard, Mr. Brandon Phillips, Mr. David Kinnaman, Mr. Bill Knight, Mr. Michael Proctor, Mr. Eddie See, Mr. Ron Butlin, and Bill And it's applied for the 911 Board, I see. Mr. Ballard is a dedicated, highly trained public field safety professional with over 30 years of experience in fire service, law enforcement, emergency management, and member of the Students for Fire Department since 2025. And also post certified law enforcement officer in the state of Alabama since 2016. And he does list his experiences. Second, Mr. Randall Phillips. He's given notice of his interest to respond for the open seat of the 9-1-1 board. He has great experience with 9-1-1 to include his current job as an investigator with the Jackson County Sheriff's Office. My priority was a patrol deputy with Jackson County Sheriff's Office and patrol officer with the Hollywood Police Department. He did serve in the United States Army from 2010 to 2015. And in 2006, he was hired with the Stevenson Police Department. And he does list his work experiences with those officers. He is a criminal investigator now with the Jackson County Sheriff's Office. Next is Mr. David Kenner. He expressed his interest in serving on the board. And he is a Scottsboro resident and has dedicated decades of experience in emergency medical focuses and telecommunications engineering and reception response. He has a retirement family from the Highlands Medical Center. He is a retired broadcast radio engineer and is experienced with emergency communication and disaster response. He's a volunteer with the EMA office, and he does participate with the Amateur Radio Emergency Services. Next is Mr. Bill Knight. He has submitted a memorandum expressing his interest to be reappointed to the board. He is a current member of the E911 board, and he will enjoy serving on the board. And so he provides that information there. He does state he has 30-plus years of experience in the GIS mapping field, more than 35 years as a volunteer with the Skyline Fire Department. Michael Proctor has submitted an email requesting his consideration. He states that he could be of value in this position, serving in the role as a volunteer firefighter for different communities in the county over the last 30 years, and has experience working with the E9M Run Center. Eddie Teague. And I just submitted his letter of request, lifelong resident of the county, and request to be considered a firefighter, is a Dutton volunteer in the fire department for 52 years, and was also the captain of the Scottsboro Jackson County Rescue Squad with 49 years of service. He's retired from the section Dutton Water Works System, worked as a mapper for the system department for 18 years. and also as a supervisor for theater readers and responsible for the collections of material on the board. He has served on the Dutton Water Board for 10 years. Also submitted is Mr. Ryan Putman. He is requested to be re-appointed to the board. He is currently serving as the vice chairman of the 9-1-1 board. He's a member since 2012. He's been involved with the new computer-aided dispatch system, completion of the remodeling of the dispatch center and the board offices, and expanding the dispatch positions for . He was also employed with the Scottsboro Police Department since 2009, two years as a dispatcher with the Jackson County Sheriff's Office and currently holds the rank of captain of the Scottsboro And then I will read her. She is the request for the novel. Well, again, the applicants are Mr. James Bower, Mr. Phillips, Mr. Kenimer, Mr. Bill Knight, Mr. Michael Proctor, Mr. ,, Mr. ,, and Mr. . So do I have a motion to appoint A member of the E911.

Not to nominate Bill Knight.

So we have a motion to appoint Bill Knight to be reinstated. Do I have a second? Same. We have a second. Any discussion? If not, roll call vote.

Foley?

I'll abstain.

Yes.

Yes. We have a majority vote for Mr. Bill Knight to be reappointed to the B911 board. So we'll move on to a second appointment. So I do have a motion for a nomination for appointment to as a member of the E91s.

I'd like to nominate Ryan Tubman.

We have a nomination for Ryan Tubman. Do I have a second? Second. We have a second. Any discussion? If not, a roll call vote.

Chris Goley?

Yes.

Paul Kenema?

Yes.

Kevin McBride?

Yes. We're in town three yeses for our equipment to be reappointed to the board. So that completes filling the two open appointments to the 911 board. We will get letters and notification out to each of those. That's the last item in our new business portion of the meeting. We will move now into the work sessions. First item on the agenda is the discussion of fiscal accountability policy. We have discussed this a number of years back, fiscal policy. And so there is a resolution that has been prepared here that was forwarded to the Commissioners for review. And so There are multiple items to be considered in this policy. And it states, beginning immediately with the passing of this resolution, that the policy is applicable to all funds that are under the direction and control of Jackson County, Alabama supported entity and shall be administered as hereafter support. Such county funds physical accountability shall not include funds separately maintained by the Jackson County Sheriff's Office, which are separately audited by the Alabama Examiner of Public Accounts. There are, in fact, eight items to be covered by this accountability policy. One is purchase order approvals. In the future, all purchase orders will be approved by the county administration. contracts and opening accounts. All contracts involving or related to the expenditure of county funds for the initiation of an application for an open account for the expenditure of funds must be processed through the county administrator for approval. And that approval will be through the Jackson County Commission and signed by the chairman of the Jackson County Commission. Next area is accounts payable. All statements of accounts payable shall be mailed or hand-delivered by the third-party entity providing the invoice directly to Jackson County Commission Office Attention Accounts Payable to ensure payments are processed before the posted due dates. Accounts payable documents received by the accounts payable clerk will be scanned and sent to the partner on whose behalf the invoice was submitted for review before being processed for payment by accounts filed. Regarding credit cards, all credit cards utilized for county expenses will be issued only in the name of Jackson County and will be physically kept in the commission office by the county administrator. When authorized and needed, a credit card will be checked out of use from immediate return to the commission office with a copy or detailed receipt and invoice. Online, the next item is online account ordering. All orders made through electronic and telephone ordering systems will be using a credit card or an open account must be submitted to the account administrator for approval and processing. Orders need to be consolidated with no rule that one order per week unless it is deemed to be an emergency. Item number six is reimbursable funds. All requests from state or federal reimbursable funds for any county department other than the Public Works Department shall be processed through the county administrator. All such requests and funds reimbursed within the Public Works Department shall be processed by the county interviewer. In every other department, the paperwork shall be completed within the department, approved by the department head prior to being submitted to the appropriate reimbursement authority. Item seven in regards to surplus property. Any department seeking to declare personal property to be surplus property must submit the list of the items sought to be declared surplus and disposed of to the county administrator before having such request placed on the agenda of a county commission meeting and being considered by the county commission for approval. And item number eight is competitive quotes. Any request for the acquisition of good or services not otherwise covered by all of the public bid laws shall include at least three competitive quotes which must be submitted to the County Administrator prior to being placed on the agenda for those. So let me open up for any questions or discussion.

No questions? I have one. Just out of curiosity. County funds fiscal accountability policy number one. And it only has the county administrator on that particular item. Is there a need to put a second person on there just in case?

No, the process here is that the county administrator will be responsible for approving the purchase. Right. Now, once the check is signed, as you know, that requires two signatures. Let's go ahead.

We can have...

I was just thinking in case you were sick or the administrator was sick.

We had thought about having Denise do this as if for some reason I happen to be out of the office as the assistant county administrator.

Yeah. And then the assistant county administrator would be the approving authority?

Yes.

Now, I would also suggest we've had cases before where they've been. Okay. Any other questions?

Do you need to change anything on this? I assume the county administrator, that's talking about the office of the administrator, and you have an assistant administrator that can fulfill that duty.

Yes, that's the change we'll make to number one. And we also want to put the chairmen. That would go county administrator, assistant county administrator, and .

But the general rule of this is you want everything to flow through the county administrator. Yes. I understand. I understand.

OK. So if there's no question, we'll put this on the new business for the next meeting. OK. The next item on the agenda is public works. And we do have three items, a construction agreement for county road 93, I was on the Department of Transportation. There was a $500,000 grant. Second is asphalt compactor. And I'll let Jonathan explain that. And we did get notice Thursday of this past week that the work that we were doing regarding federal bridge investment program We have some information regarding that. Does this have to have a response?

They plan to make an application for this grant on the 29th. They have a date set forth in that resolution for the 22nd, which is today. I do apologize for that.

So let me turn it over to you. First is the construction agreement for County Road 93.

Thank you, Chair and Commissioners. You should have an agreement. in the packet that I handed out that reads, Instruction Agreement for State-Folded Road and Bridge Funding Project between the State of Alabama and Jackson County Commission. And this covers the duties of the state and the county, but primarily this is the same format that you've most recently seen with the most pocket project. And it's a format we welcome because it means the state has decided to invest in Jackson County once again This program, this agreement, just reads essentially the state and county desire to cooperate to resurface County Road 93 and Aston County Road 262 to County Road 91. So that will be the same section of County Road 93 that I've written it on at the last meeting that involves the slide areas and all the other disturbed areas from the work that was done on that mountainside. The FEMA-funded repair sections will be an exception to this project, but the work will include the entire area. So those sections will be funded separately by FEMA funds, and the state funds will apply to the rest of the roadway from bottom to top, essentially. There are obligations to the county.

Well, I'd like to comment and say thank you to Director Cooper and now the Department of Transportation for their support in this program. That allows us to pay the entire length of County Road 93. I'll use the term, you've got roads here, but I'll use the term from the Broward Mountain to the intersection with County Road 91.

Yes, sir.

Okay. Any questions? One, if you will explain. I believe this agreement, design changes, allows us to go ahead and pave County Road And then reimburse the general fund cash balance if we use that as a source of funds once we get this fund.

Yes, that is correct. It will be a reimbursement agreement. So we will expend the funds and seek reimbursement. But there's no percent match. It's $500,000, 100%. So as you probably recall, our estimate was slightly

So this allows once you get started paving on the slope failure one that we pave the whole block.

Yes, sir.

Any questions? Okay. Can we put this on the view? Sure. Okay. Next item is asphalt for the compound block block. We need to take a little break from having to get back.

You still have a quorum.

Okay.

You're okay business-wise. It's up to you whether or not you want to wait. We'll go ahead.

Okay. Go ahead.

Okay.

Do you want me to go ahead and proceed?

So the photos probably best start with this. It's the roadway section. This is a photo of recent paving with a new machine that's purchased last year. And what I'd like to just illustrate and highlight in this photo, you can see a difference in the left side of the roadway, hopefully in your picture, with the right side of the roadway. So the left side of the roadway is completely purchased, and it's a pneumatic tire, static rubber tire roller. So as you'll notice, the roadway has streaks and the surface is uneven compared to the right side. And this is from the two different types of machines. So the rubber tire roller, when used in a breakdown position directly behind the paper, it's very difficult to achieve a uniform, compacted map. And hopefully...

Okay.

Hopefully it shows up in this picture, the difference in the map. The right side is with a tandem steel drum roller. The left side is from the existing equipment that we had with that pneumatic rubber tire. It's essentially just the wrong tool for the job. So as we work through different pops of rubber tire rollers, we try different sizes and different brands. And this was in a rental workshop. as rental units to try different drum widths and different tops to see what worked best. And what we arrived at as a preference was the four and a half ton size and the 54 to 55 inch drum width. And we're at a place with this to where after renting the different types of equipment and working through the different sizes, we feel it's not the best decision to keep renting equipment to perform this properly. So what we've asked for your consideration is to purchase a compactor of this size for this dedicated service. So we have provided three options. all of the pieces of equipment are provided through a cooperative purchasing agreement, which would either be source well or state bid. And I'll reference those as option A, option B, and option C. So you'll notice that they're all fairly close in price for option A, option B, and option C. There are some differences that I will just illustrate. They range anywhere from 43 horsepower to 48 horsepower. The drum width is a difference that ranges anywhere from 54 inches to over 55, and the warranty that's provided. So it's five years for one piece of equipment and three for the others, but they are essentially the same category of compactors. each different brand for A, B, and C. We have demoed option A as far as a rental unit that was that brand and size. And then option C, we have demoed a rented unit that is that exact size and horsepower. Option B, we asked for We asked for an opportunity to demo this machine, even from a rental house, if it wasn't provided by the dealer. And we have been unsuccessful in being able to put our hands on this piece of equipment to try it out or operate it or find a rental house that has this piece of equipment. And I have a string of correspondence from that provider and dealer about their initiatives to contact the manufacturer representative to find out if there's one available or if it could be. And the best we have is they believe one could come off the line four to six weeks for the potential to see one. But there just doesn't sound like a lot of guarantee in this court department for being able to actually try the equipment out before For those reasons and the warranty options, the horsepower and the size drum, our recommendation would be option C, although it is slightly lower than, slightly higher than the lowest price of option B.

Do they charge travel time? And what could work?

If they come out to the equipment, then they charge for the equipment and mileage service. If it's a warranty part, no. Or if you transport, if we have the owner transport it to, then no.

I understand you're seeing it from zero. How long this machine could possibly last? 10 years?

Yeah, it would depend on usage, but with our usage, 15, 20 years probably, I mean, it wouldn't be unreasonable.

Source of funding, we would have to come to this building probably next month. So this doesn't We can put this on the agenda for the next meeting. And we might propose that we look at the cash flow and cash balance to see if we can bring that information to the next meeting, because I don't feel agreed. John, is that OK? Yes, sir. Thank you. All right. The last item is still a bridge investment program.

As the chair I mentioned late last week, we received notice that there is an attempt to make application on the 29th for the CREACH investment program. And just as a quick refresher, we came before you all for a funding request when this initiative first started, and this has been two plus years ago when it's a collective group of counties that are recognized in the IJA or Bipartisan Infrastructure Law that there was an opportunity for bridge investment program. However, the threshold for most counties was very large. So it would take the size project that would really fits to our reach for counties. So Waterdale County graciously took the lead to work as the leader of a collective group of counties to be able to make application meet threshold with everyone's project. So that has dwindled down in counties, and I think problems are due to the, it could be to funding or it could be to work, but regardless, there is a list of counties that I'll get to a little bit later in this. that we are considered as a group, part of the group. And Lauderdale would be the lead agency making application. And if we were awarded this project and it was to move forward by your choice, they would be the lead agency in seeking reimbursement. So we would still pay and then seek our reimbursement through this lead agency. So I have started with photos because County Road 12 is the bridge that, by that group and consultant that was hired by Laura Bell, that is the one that looks like the most prevalent option for the spring application. The photos show, this is a structure that was built in 1975. It's 248 feet long. It has been derated to currently 15 tons. And we answered in our questionnaires that we perceive, due to the condition of the structure, will probably be 13 tons or less within the next few years. The deck has issues, and that's notably on this last inspection, that it's falling on an expository bar. Superstructure is rated a five, substructure is rated a five. That's due to erosions, scouring around the bins, And then you'll notice in some of the photos, the steel caps on the vents, that corrosion at borderline three. So when it goes to three in the near future, which we anticipate, it'll take the substructure right into a four, which will lead to lower loading capacity. So if you're familiar with this area, this bridge is on County Road 12 and leads into the Williams Cove, and there's homes and churches back there. But beyond that, it's access to an enormous amount of public land, state-owned public land. So that recreation from hunting, bird watching, hiking, all that leads through this portal. There is no way in and out other than County Route 12 and this bridge across the river to go. This bridge spans the Paint Rock River and the intermediate bends that you see in those photos, all of those intermediate bends lead to a lot of the problems that are associated with it. Not so much the corrosion, but just the drift So it's an old bridge, you know, at the design life of these bridges for 50 years, you know, we're in the 51 year range with this and it's lived its life and it has some life left, make no mistake, but we were advised in this to submit a list of bridges that without this opportunity, you would never be able to afford the request. know this bridge county road 20 bridge it's critical structures that cross that river because there's just no alternate ways in a workshop so hopefully the photos illustrate the things i've just described and then moving on through that you'll see the last photo of a concrete bridge and And this is my rendering and idea of what that solution would look like. So instead of a multi-bent steel sub-structural bridge, you see a structure that spans the entire bridge. So that is a pre-stretched concrete ashtone girdle bridge. The envelopments are close to the waterway. When you see the price tag associated with this project, hopefully that explains some of that. That price tag is the next page that's in your document. That's the estimate performed by ADECOM, which is the consultant working on this application. You can see that this project cost has escalated out to $23,000. As we know with federal funds, things just I'm not here today to present this as something that's going to happen next week or a decision that's going to happen immediate, but moving forward with this application does still keep us in the room and it may be that you decide to move forward. We identify that we are committed to the 25% match of this and they are awarded their grant and we're eliminated somehow. They may mention that that's a possibility that if the entire group, we may be eliminated. So I just want to highlight some of those things and the conditions that surround this effort. The next article is a resolution for Jackson County to consider if they would like to participate in its joint application for this bridge investment program. And it is, before I move on from that estimate, a $5.5 million bridge with a 25% match. So approximately $1.4 million would be what we could expect to have to pay, and most likely some time from that. So I just highlight that 2030 plan that they have listed. They intend to make application on the 29th, and there is a list explains Walker-Depp County as the lead and they would act on our behalf. It highlights the estimated cost of the stroke group and it also states that we understand that it is a reimbursable grant and it would require a 0.5% local match and we would pay the contractor invoices and seek reimbursement through that leader. Any cost overruns once we If we were to incur overruns, that would be all borne by the county and our responsibility. Plan specs, all the things for engineering consultant services would be our responsibility. And it goes on to acknowledge that as we have discussed it with other federal grants, there could be a delay in our reimbursement. So I think I'll leave it there. answer any questions you have i will i will say this i do apologize for this late consideration and the slice of middle on this we did just receive it last week but they do have the date of the 22nd day of june that's the day this was executed so um i do have an email response required if we would not be able to execute this before the 28th to be included in your submission so depending on the decision or not um i'll let them know It's so important for a question.

Any questions? Yeah. Big question. 25% grant. Right now, we have the $16 million or $20 million that requires us to fund $4 million of jobs. And that's principally gonna be funded out of Rebuild Alabama Funds and Federated Bank. To do this then, as for me, we look principally at cash back to be able to fund this. Is this a reimbursable as work proceeds or is this a reimbursable as work is completed?

Yes, sir. So we would pay the contractor's estimates and seek reimbursement through the lead agency. So they would essentially be handling the electronic submission of documents for that reimbursement. There could just be some delay because we're introducing another middleman, basically.

Okay. But is it $5 million at one time at the end whenever we get invoices from the contractor?

Yeah, it would be.

As you look at the safe streets and roads and cash flow to be able to do that. Again, this will be in person. You see, if we manage cash flow, we can manage two projects of this magnitude at the same time.

I think at the status of where we are on SS4A versus the timeline of this, we could see some overlap, but we should be well in a structured flow with SS4A before we ever get to, and it could be that we're near completion on SS4A before we ever see construction activities for this.

And so we may be in a position where we are freeing up rebuild all the funds that we've exchanged.

I think that's a real possibility. Yes. And I'll just add, this resolution does not require us to designate a funding source. It just says that we recognize there's a 25%. I understand that.

Just for me. a resolution that we'll participate in. That's right. If at some time later we realize we're in a funding situation that we cannot handle this, that resolution is not so ironclad that we, if we're selected, we have to proceed.

I don't know how to state that any different yet. I think I understand. In my opinion, you could resolve to remove yourself from that opportunity.

That seems to me that we'll go ahead and proceed with this, and then if we're in a position we can't do this at the time, we're going to draw. I'm sure the other five or six more more in that county. I'm not going there that you only have about $10 million left.

It's about 17 counties and in the resolution.

It's only about 9 million.

It's 9.4 billion. Billion.

Billion with a B.

Billion with a B. Billion with a B.

So you can move forward with an email. We don't have to take action on tonight. You can move forward.

I have to send an email if he goes into my interest.

We will have to set aside the rules and approve proceeding with the resolution because it's dated the 22nd, which is today.

The problem with the resolution is have to do a resolution today can we do a resolution at the next meeting um that's probably a better question i guess for mr porter but it says uh i guess my question for you is this something just because the resolution is dated today the same resolution could be done and dated at the next meeting and you have time to proceed or is this something that's time sensitive and you need to proceed

It came this way.

First, I don't have a problem proceeding. This is me proceeding with the resolution. If we have the option later on that we're not in a position to be able to fund this, given where we are with safe streets and roads, that we can let go. We don't feel we're going to have an option. I would be a little worried about .

But you said we do have an option to withdraw.

It doesn't explicitly state that. But we're also not identifying a funding source, and we're not committing any funds. It just says that the county understands that this is a reimbursable grant requiring 25% of local match. And so in anticipation of SS-408, we have been holding our Rebuild Alabama and Federal Light Exchange. So about one more year of those funds and we will have our $4 million match, very close to it. So, you know, if we think about it in a timeline perspective of in one more year,

I have no problems.

I have no problem with signing the resolution. Mr. Pierce, all the Lauderdale County is going to do, from what I can read, they'll be the administrative agent to submit these requests. And then once that's done, you got me if I'm wrong, then it falls back to the county to utilize the funds to enter into contracts for the The work to be done, the engineering work, et cetera, et cetera, it all falls back to the county just like a normal private. In this case, these 19 counties are banding together so that they can attempt to get some of these billions of dollars available where they couldn't otherwise. It's just an administrative agreement as well. I don't see anything in here that obligates us to move forward once this is done with a contract.

The other consideration here is that the bridge, given the way you described the bridge in its current condition and potential degrading, we're going to have to do this at some point.

Yeah, I'll look at the rest of it.

I'm just going to watch this. I'm sure we can do things. Yeah, 100%. And I'm already after that resolution.

So tonight we're approving the resolution is what we're approving. Yes. Do I have a motion to sign the motion? Do I have a second?

I'll second.

All in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries. Do I have a motion to approve the resolution that states the Jackson County Commission to participate in the joint application for the Bridge Investment Program grant funding opportunities. I'll make a motion. Do we have a motion? Do we have a second? Second. Second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries. Thank you. Thank you all. All right, the next item is public report on solid waste and .

Thank you, Mr. Commissioner. Thank you. Sheriff Hardin had to leave. He said he got a call about a tree on my house. So I just wanted to let y'all know about that. Thank you for allowing me to speak tonight. You can see behind me, in front of you, we have three old utility trailers. That was one. This is another. And then you can see here, that's a good picture. Right up here, you can see where we've welded onto it and we've added where the frame is broke. This is broke multiple times and we keep welding onto it. You can see here that this one we actually don't use. It's just too far gone right now, but it's sitting on a lot, so we'd like to surplus it. And then this is the third one. This is one that we've welded on several times. This one gets used more than the other two because the other two are a little bit smaller. But these are the three trailers. that are requesting us to surplus. I've reached out to four local vendors. One's Creek's Bend Trailer, they got a Flat Rock crossing. They actually told me that they're no longer ordering new ones. And what they have on the lot is what they've got. The next one I have is from Scott. We'll start with this one here. This one's from Tractor Supply. They all have 3,500 pound axles. with the mesh gate. Track fly, only thing different is you can see here the mesh on the sides. It's still square tubing, but that one come in at $4,999. It's seven foot wide, 16 foot long, has two 35 on the panel axles on it. This one's from Tri-Green here in Scottsboro. They're all 16 foot, by the way. Again, it's a 16 foot trailer, wood floor, It's got the mesh tailgate, but it don't have the mesh on the side, which we really don't need that. That's just what Traxplot offered. And then they have two 3,500-pound axles. This is a very good trailer. It's actually the trailer that we currently have.

Just this is the new one.

And that price there would come in at $4,200. This trailer is 83 inches wide. Well, the other one is 83 inches wide and 16 foot long. So it's a little bit wider than the next one you're about to see. And then the last one that I've provided, this is an old CWS. Now it's called Scottsboro Pit Stop. It is 77 inches wide, 16 foot long. It actually come in at the lowest bid. But I want you to look at this picture. This trailer was made in 2022. So it's already... four years old. So I really, I really, I'm not gonna recommend this one. It's not as wide either. They both have 3,500 pound axles, but this trailer has been sitting on their lot since 2022. So that's the three that I've provided. The last one, the Scopper Pitstop, it was $3,567. But like I said, it is a little bit less than the Tri-Green. but the tri-ring would be ordered and built on a pretty good. So given the intended long-term use, these trailers are, you know, we use, some days we use up to three trailers a day. You know, some days we might just use one. Right now we currently have that 16 footer and then the two 14 footers. The 16-footer, and then we have an 18-footer. The 16-footers seem to be easier with our turnaround capacity and on the county roads and stuff. So this is all I have for you, and if you have any questions, feel free to ask.

Those are the only trailers that you have in your fleet. With three?

No, sir. We have another one, but we're not selling it. I'm not asking to sell it. We have a bigger one that we use for community cleanups and stuff like that.

And a funding source for this would come out of your solid waste cash balance.

I think my biggest question is, we're already having a surplus to budget, and now we're coming asking for the surplus trailers and buy three new trailers. Just can't wait until we do our new budget in a couple months.

Absolutely. The mechanic brought this to my attention and showed me where we had to weld on it. So the frame was actually broke twice. So I'm just trying to keep, it's become a safety issue now. These things loaded and we'll keep welding onto it. He showed me, we're starting to weld on rust. And so, yes, I normally would bring this, but I feel like this is a need that needs to be brought. I'm not asking you to prove it or not, but I just wanted to bring this for you.

Are these, are these, are these safe? I'm not as familiar with the surplus. Are these no plus? I mean, they kind of seem like they wouldn't be.

The budget hearings are next week, right?

Yeah. But those would be.

We'll pass that. These companies don't take training or anything like that anymore.

I'm kind of back to what you were saying. I don't think there's a lot of value in what we have. This would be something we would just, I think, put on GovDeals and just advertise what the condition they are.

But you're asking to buy a Larimore, the same trailer that you have a broken frame on. And how would that travel?

About a 15-, 16-year-old trailer.

Okay.

Yes.

So you would put the three old ones on GovDeals?

That would be my recommendation. Do you want to buy one? I would like to buy two.

But you have another one that you're using. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. So you're going to have a total of three, still have a total of three useful products.

The total price will try to bring the recommendation. You know the question.

One question is that we're going to have to amend the budget again for that next meeting.

We would amend the budget, but he has his cash, he has cash.

This will be coming out of your cash balance. Yes, it will be coming out of your account.

Okay. Okay, that's the last item in our work session. We're going to proceed to the staff and administrator.

Okay.

Do you have anything else? That's it. Thank you. Okay. Do you have anything else? Okay. County attorney. I don't have anything.

Thank you.

Okay, now comments from Commission District 2, Mr. Kimball.

I appreciate all the hard work that's been done. Only one thing I'd like to ask is, are we piping roads yet in the program? I know we've had a lot of weather.

Yeah, no, sir. Okay. Not yet, but it's coming soon.

I know y'all are getting busy. I appreciate everything everybody does. You're welcome, Mr. Turnip. to our team. Congratulations on your journey. It's a tough job. We all have tough jobs. So thanks for having you with us.

Thanks.

All right, District 1, Commissioner Goody.

I'd just like to thank the employees for all the work. And everyone, stay safe this evening. I don't know.

say the same thing. We have a lot of folks here on the road and over the last couple of weeks, they've been very busy responding to weather conditions. And we have a serious weather situation that's going on tonight. We have trees down in Rhodes and some house games. So we'll be paying attention to that tonight and just hope that everybody's safe and So thanks for that. Our next meeting will be the 13th of July, 2026. We'll be here. We do need to go into a brief executive session of a good name and character. And with that, do I have a second session?