Planning & Zoning Commission - Regular Meeting

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Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. It is now 7:01 p.m. Welcome to tonight's Planning and Zoning Commission meeting of Monday, November 3rd, 2025. Members of the Planning and Zoning Commission and public may participate in the public hearing. All participants will be able to speak when called upon. At this time, I would like to explain the procedures to be followed during the meeting. The commission has both a consent agenda and an agenda for consideration of individual items. Items listed on the consent agenda are considered to be routine and non-contested. Item number one, citizen comments, provides the opportunity for members of the public to address the commission on items that are listed on the consent agenda. Each speaker will be limited to three minutes, and the secretary will let you know when one minute is left. For all plants and plans conditionally approved or disapproved by the commission, the applicant will be provided a written statement of the conditions for the conditional approval or the reasons for disapproval. These conditions and reasons are not arbitrary. They are directly related to the requirements of local government code chapter 212 and include citations to the law that is the basis for the conditional approval or disapproval. For individual consideration items, I will call the applicant or his or her representative to present the case. The applicant will have up to five minutes to present the case which includes all persons representing the application. Then those wishing to speak in favor and those wishing to speak in opposition will have up to five minutes each to present his or her comments. Prior to speaking, please give your name and city of residents. Remember to speak directly into the microphone as this hearing is recorded for the public record. Any handouts you wish to provide should be given to staff. Please do not approach the commission. Applicants are not required to stay for the entire duration of the meeting and may leave once their item has been heard. The next meeting of the planning and zoning commission will be Monday, December 1st, 2025.

The next item on our agenda is citizen comments on items listed on the consent agenda. April, has anyone signed up to speak on any item on the consent agenda? No one signed up. Please proceed. All right, Secretary Merrick, would you please read the consent agenda into the record?

Yes. I have five items. [clears throat] The first is the approval of the planning and zoning commission minutes of Monday, October 6, 2025. The next item is 2025192 PL Temple Rose Addition Revised Replat located at 2006 Rose Street. The next one is 2025341 PL Mutaza at Shady Grove Edition Preliminary/Final Plat located at 1215 West Shady Grove Road. [clears throat] Next one is 2025376PL [clears throat] Royal Tech Center phase 3 Fifth Replat located at 801 Ridgeport Drive and 8000 Bent Branch Road. The final one is 2025377PL more edition final plat located at 4400 1406 and 1412 Eaton Road.

All right. Do we have a motion for approval of the items on this portion of the consent agenda? I'll make a motion for approval. I'll second. Okay. We have a motion and a second. Please vote. And the motion passed unanimously. All right. And Secretary Merrick, would you please read the item on the consent agenda for disapproval? For disapproval, I have 2025231 PL Story Village Addition Revised Replat located at 2305 West Airport Freeway. All right. All right. And do I have a motion for disapproval of this item for the reasons set forth in the staff memo?

I'll make a motion for disapproval. I'll second.

All right. We have the motion and the second for disapproval. Please vote. And the motion passed unanimously. So, we'll move on to the individual items. Uh, one of our individual items, um, the applicant has requested that we postpone. So, we're going to address that one first. um they asked that we postpone because they have um some further discussions to with the city staff. This is item number 16 on our list, which is zoning case 2025-2 or -365-Z. Um located at 3801 Pleasantrun Road. Uh it's been asked for for postponement, but um since it's already been uh notice has already been has gone out, we'll need to do the public hearing. Um anyway, uh is the applicant present and if so, do they want to say anything more than that they're asking for a postponement?

We are present and very grateful for the opportunity, but now we're just asking for postponement. Okay. Thank you. Is there anybody else who'd like to speak in favor of this item? Anybody in opposition? No. Then I will return it to the commission for uh for a motion. I'll make a motion, if there's no other comments, uh to postpone zoning case 2025-365-Z until January the 5th, 2026 hearing. I'll second.

We have a motion, a second postponing the this item. Please vote. And the motion passed unanimously. All right, then back to the normal order of our items. Item number eight, zoning case 2024-394-Z located at 309 South Okconor Road. Is the applicant present? Yes.

Christina Winters, 3716 Santiago Court, Irving, Texas. I've been a resident for 38 years and have had a lot of interaction with a lot of our community experiences. And when I saw this house, uh, I just sold my business of 35 years. And I've always loved the idea of downtown Irving. Feet on the street in the urban center. Yes. But downtown Irving is such a opportunity for like at the APA conference, the 12 steps for a great city, a thriving downtown and kind of envision we got a train coming in, right? And I don't know about those cars, but the little ones that go by themselves, but we really don't want people driving around in the district. We want people walking, okay? We want people coming in on the train, uh coming in uh in groups and walking around in our city. I bought this property for two reasons. First of all, I needed a space for my new business, the revolution of achievement. It's a consulting firm. Uh, and I am going to be there with my assistant Carrie. She's my uh, op strategic operations manager and we're very excited about the future. And I plan on redeveloping

well, let's take that word out. I plan on enhancing the original property that was actually approved and put on the national and state historical by the national state and historical commissions and the property has to stay the way it is. and we are working with the commission and also the architect firm that actually helped in getting it registered. So my goal and Carrie has the plot. I don't know if you guys can she if she puts it in the front here so everyone can see it. Uh maybe in front of this wooden thing Carrie. Um, so this is the property. So right now it's really overgrown and not very pretty and it's a beautiful house. It is a California airplane bungalow and that are properties that were built between 1900 and 1930. So the uh pl if you look at it from the top uh the one on the screen is actually in the wrong position. It should be turned uh long ways uh because that little uh brown squiggle that's the walkway up to the property. Okay. So, I plan on repainting the outside and there's a lot of disrepair. No one has lived physically in the house for about six

years. And the outside, the yard has gone into disarray. And I plan on clearing out all of the backside of the property. That's all the part up here on the top. and ripping out all the grass. Putting in one minute remaining. I'm sorry. You have you have one minute left. That's what she was letting you know. I have one more minute. I thought I had five minutes. Yeah, but you've already used up four of them.

Okay. So, I'm going to spend about $300,000 on the property just on the grass and all the plants and flowers. And I want this to be a beacon for the future of downtown historic district, a vision that will allow people to see what's possible. I have the love of my town and the finances to be able to create this. And I request that you grant me these variances. It's just going to be me and my assistant and we're going to be in two rooms. The rest of the house is going to look like a residence. Okay. It's going to have a living room, a dining room, and a kitchen. [clears throat]

Your time is up. All right. I am here to answer any questions you might have. Thank you. Uh, Commissioner Reyes, do you have a question?

I do. So, Miss Christina, thank you for your presentation. I just am curious, what is your consulting and what is your business? If you don't mind sharing. Surely, surely. So, uh I've actually been in the business for 45 years and I have uh been able to create uh an amazing experience for clients through purpose-driven success. And my goal, I'm writing a book. I am going to be speaking and consulting to other businesses, not just financial planning but other businesses because purpose-driven success and what that is is that you put the client completely in front of what you're doing and you forget about everything else. So my firm the average uh retention was 14 years for clients and if you look on the internet the average retention for a financial planner and a client is five years and how I was able to expand it almost three times that way was through the concept of purpose-driven success. So, that's what my books are going to be about and um my consulting and I'm also going to be speaking. So, there's not going to be anybody coming into the property at all except for me and Carrie.

So, as far as um your uh lovely like uh blueprint right here, uh would do you mind just sharing how this would make downtown Irving more beneficial? So I know you had mentioned economic development of

well for example uh the reason I'm asking for the variance of the uh driveway uh there's a pale pink quartz that was originally on the property which is all dis it's dissipated completely. So it has to be I want it to be redone that way. I want the property to look exactly like it was when it was brand new. And Mr. Gilbert actually lived there where there's flowers. I'm planting uh nine uh purple trees all along this second part of the property. There's a fence, a 7 foot fence. And then also um uh red yuckas, 16 of them along with seven white yuckas. Um uh 30 yashaw bushes and regular bushes, 10. We're putting in electrical outlets and lighting so that the property can be lit up at night. And uh we're painting it. There's going to be a chandelier which was originally on the property when Mr. Gilbert owned it in his day on the porch outside and it's going to be a beacon of what the vision I know and I've heard a few of you talk about that today. the vision of what the future's going to look like in financial planning. You got to think out 20, 25 years. And that's what I'm seeing. And I have the vision, the energy, and the finances to create.

Did the microphone get turned off? I'm sorry. Did the microphone get turned off? I don't think so. Now it's on. Okay. Oh, I didn't know that. How did it get turned off? Um, I don't know. Maybe you bumped it. Oh, I don't know. So, it didn't get recorded. Um, well, I mean, I we could hear it here, but it I could tell it wasn't as loud, so I was Oh, so it was just a little short bit there right at the end. And usually I'm told I talk too loud. [laughter]

Okay, good. So, everyone can hear me now. So, uh there has to be and I know you guys have a vision because I see some things happening. We have those beautiful murals and um we need something that's going to be like out of concept right now. This is going to be a property that is going to be very different than all the other properties. Our own city heritage house is beautiful right next door to me. Beautiful lawn and a picket fence. That's what I'm going to do with this acre of land that this house sits on. And I know it's going to attract other developers. and having you, I almost said you guys cuz I'm from Cleveland, Ohio, but having you as a commission approving these variances will show other developers that we are willing to look to the future and do the things that are necessary to attract people with money. and marketing to North Irving and East Dallas, having those people come into the city. And again, not necessarily with cars. Uh we want feet on the street. We don't want people driving around. Want people walking and developing all these properties so that they have places to go and things to do and uh take pictures of themselves. I've visited Spring, Texas. Um, their downtown area is just

like ours, but it's totally developed. The houses are turned into businesses and there's all kinds of activities going on. Bishop Arts on uh 8th Street. Um, I I think you've moved beyond answering the question the commissioner had. Um, any other questions that the commissioners have for the applicant? I got a question. Thank you. So, basically what you're wanting to do is you're want to bring this house back to the 1930 style house. Yes. So, by keeping the original rock driveway, by keeping all that stuff, that that's what your vision is. Yes. Yes.

And so, you're asking us commission to look at that and take that into consideration as far as what you're wanting to do. The main objective is bringing it back to its original condition. Correct. Thank you for capsulizing that, Mr. Lightfoot. Okay. Any other questions? Thank you very much. Are you intending to reside in the property? I'm sorry. Are you intending to reside? No. No. I live uh in uh North Irving and I will stay there. I This is just for my business. Just pure office use.

Yes, we uh we're only going to use two rooms. Uh there's a study and a bedroom on the um south side of the house. And then in the front is a living room and dining room and a kitchen area and then a kitchen and an enclosed porch. So, I'm just going to furnish that in 1930s40s furniture. So, it

perfect. Let me ask you one more question. You said you sold your business, but you're saying that you are in business for 40 something years and you're going to be using a consulting business. So, um are you still in business or you sold your business? I'm sorry. Are you still in business or did you sell your business? Oh, no. I sold the financial planning business. Now I have a consulting business called the revolution of achievement and its focus is to is to be focused on purpose- driven success and teaching people through speaking and writing books and also consulting with firms. Great.

So I will not be having people come to the house. Thank you. Any other questions? No. Thank you very much. Thank you so much for your time and your consideration and your vision for our heritage district. I got a question actually for the heritage. Okay, that'll be part of the public hearing. All right, you're fine. You can No, not for you. Oh, thank you. Sure. That'd be great.

Is there anybody else like to speak in favor of this item? I do. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Uh Sharon Barbosa, Crane, 2608 Island, and to uh Chairman Skinner and the commissioners, to Mr. Bloom and staff. Uh pleased to be here this evening and express my support for uh this project that's before you and also to answer a couple of questions that you had uh in your work session. The first one being uh has anyone talked to the Irving Heritage Society? Well, I need you to know that the Irving Heritage Society has not had a board meeting uh in order to consider this since it was placed on the agenda and folks learned about it. Uh but we have been able to have a number of informal conversations among the board members and uh we have not uncovered any opposition whatsoever but we did have a number of questions and fortunately uh Miss Winters has answered those questions for us. The first consideration of the Irving Heritage Society is is of course seeing as how the center of our heritage society is the heritage house. That's that's very important to the society though we now are so are evolved to all over the city because that's where our history lies and that's everywhere. But we are very uh committed to that area and we're right next door to this house which was formerly the home of Dr. Clay Gilbert. And indeed, as Miss Winter said, it has not been occupied since he passed away and had fallen into some neglect and the the trees and and the other landscaping was wilting badly. And to have it replaced into what was there and then even enhanced in many areas is really something that we are in favor of. Most of us if they were all down here they would stand up and say yes if you can

protect the uh historical character of this then we want to see this used for a positive benefit. Uh on the other hand the south Irving task force did take this up to review at our meeting and did develop a position on it and we are very interested in what happens downtown and in the heritage district at large and we believe this is a step in the right direction. you talked about um this parking and uh things and I I think you probably have the answers you need. But let me just say this that the only reason that Miss Winters is down here today is because she's not going to be at this time living in this house. Because if she was living in this house and had this business installed there, that would be permissible without ever coming to you all and there would be no question as to what you have there or where you put it or what kind of gravel you have, etc. So that's the first thing for you to remember. Also, that the reason that there's two parking spaces required is because the city requires two parking spaces for this use whether you need them or not. And she's clearly demonstrated to you that she actually doesn't need them. But there is plenty of room in the back. We're very familiar with it, being familiar with Dr. Gilbert, who was a charter member of the Irving Heritage Society, by the way, uh because uh the backyards of the two houses are similar in that there's a lot of room back there. There's a there's a garage and there's plenty of room back there for uh for two assistants uh to be there with Miss Winters. And there's room there then and in addition to that for two parking spaces that I might want to come by and visit and have coffee, you know, uh but probably not as a client, but just as a friend, as you would do in all of these homes, this is if you look around the neighborhood, it's not dissimilar to what you'll see in the rest of the neighborhood. And it also is inviting in the fact that it does have the the the beauty of the area

that suggests you'd like to walk in it and move around in it. And we badly need all of our available buildings and structures to be used in this heritage district area and as in the downtown area. And this is a chance to do that. Uh so not only uh do you have plenty of room for for what you would ordinarily need, you also have uh the protection of the inspections department. If there was a change in the use on this and it was a it was commercial in nature, not because somebody moved in to make it a residence. They would have to go to building inspections. They would have to get a certificate of occupancy and that use would determine what they would be allowed to do. And if there wasn't the ability to put that on the lot, it wouldn't happen. I help people all the time who have problems with things like this. And I help people all the time who can't go into a little commercial strip center because the manager of that has already allowed the existing tenants to use up all the parking space and people literally can't move their business in there. It would be no difference with a small area like this being used as uh a a part of it being used as a business. So the protection that you would seek and look for is there. And so you can be confident in that and you can be confident in knowing that the people uh who have an interest in this area and who keep up with this area are supportive of it and would appreciate your recommendation of approval for this project.

Thank you, Commissioner Lightoot. Did did that answer your question? Great. Answer question answered. All right. Anybody else who'd like to speak in favor of this item? Anybody in opposition? No. Then I will return it to Unless Ma'am, did did you have any It was somebody in support of you, so I'm not guessing you had anything further to say in in response to Miss Barbos's comments. No, I'm 100% in agreement. Okay. All right. Well, then I'll return it to the commission for discussion. Commissioner Lightoot.

Yeah, I'd like to make a couple of comments. Um, I think this is a unique opportunity to develop uh downtown area. Um, I think that it's a unique property and I think it has unique stuff to it as far as the historical district and keeping stuff. Normal gravel driveways, stuff like that, we would um have an issue with because it does not necessarily meet current compliance. But I think if we put concrete in there and do that, it's going to definitely change up the view of the home. And I do appreciate Miss Winter's willing to spend $300,000 plus dollars to develop um this house back to its original condition. Um I I think I can support it due to its uniqueness. Um, one question for staff though, uh, if it changes from a different business, then at that point, uh, being historical, etc., they're they're going to have a different challenge to to put in a different style business in there. So the use that is regulated by CO will have to follow the regulations of the building code for health and safety which will include any type of accessibility or um just other basic requirements of the building code. There are there is an existing building code and and Wade can respond to this as well if needed. Um, so there are accommodations for historic properties. Um, but there are some minimum standards that would have to be met

if there is a a use that is more intense than what she's intending to do. Okay. So, we do have that protection on this. And I think so I I can support it. Um, even though it's against typically what we do, but due to the nature, the age, and keeping it like it is now, um, I I could support this, [snorts]

um, well, I I think the presentation we heard was commendable. I think it's impressive, and I think there was a lot of energy to commit to the heritage district and to embrace the history of Irving. I I think we have here what I what presented is a fairly narrow question I think in terms of whether or not we deviate from uh the standard of developments in parking and going from six spaces to two spaces I think is is quite dramatic and I think there would need to be a a compelling reason to do that and I think that area shows there there can be historic properties but modifications for particularly uses. In this case, a commercial use there. It's going from a residential use to a commercial use. And with that comes certain parking requirements and driveway requirements. So, I'm not seeing a particular prejudice or hardship to maintaining these standards. And so, just on those narrow grounds, I I would not be able to support this. Vice Chair Hack,

I grew up in a small town settled in6006, so I'm particularly sensitive to historical renovations. Um, Miss Winters has been a integral part of the success of Irving through financial gifts and support and through her own business of 38 years and now apparently a new consulting business. Congratulations. So I fully support this case without any trouble whatsoever. Commissioner Pritchard,

I'll ask Miss Barbosa one from of the from question as the agent have a question for you. [clears throat] Is the intention also that's going to be open for tours or whatnot for people to come in? That's not that that's not the request that's been made. I'm just asking the question. No, I mean, no, I don't think so. That's it's not my understanding. Uh, it's my understanding it's going to be used exactly as Miss Winter said and uh I mean, if I guess if I want if she wants to show me something, she can, but that's just normal activity. Well, because I'm I'm going along with Commissioner Daniels that uh I'm concerned about the parking

and [snorts] you won't The dream is to have people walk. Uh you you can go ahead and sit down. Yeah. Like this. Yeah. I just didn't get her started. Um I'm concerned about the parking and if people drive up [clears throat] again, are will we be in compliance with ADA? Will we have uh handicap parking spaces available? Will we have access to the building with a ramp and whatnot? I'm I'm concerned about that. Right. I think Commissioner Reyes is next.

Thank you. I have to agree with Commissioner Hack and Commissioner Lightfoot. I think it's a fantastic idea especially for the development and the growth of uh city downtown city of Irving. Uh and as far as it being walkable and as um Miss uh Jocelyn mentioned earlier in our work session, you know, sounds to me it's just the space will just be used for herself and her colleague and as an office space. And in the event it does need to grow, there is that lot size, you know, to expand for parking spaces. So I don't see it as being a need for a restraint on the parking spaces. Commissioner Ahmed. Yeah, I'd like to make a

Commissioner I'm trying to go in order.

All right. Yeah. So um I'm a bit big advocate of small businesses, especially startups. So congratulations for starting that up. um sounds very intriguing, you know, kind of bringing that into the heritage district and downtown area. Um I don't particularly find a hardship why the parking requirement cannot happen. Um I'm not seeing that even though I'm an advocate of this happening, but there's no compelling argument here why this can't happen if they wanted this to happen, especially when the investment is being made. Um, and we are asking other businesses in that area and elsewhere to meet those requirements as well. Um, given that there's no hardship presented here, I won't be able to support this case, Commissioner Lightoot.

Okay. Thank you. I'd like to remind the commission if she was to choose to move into this house, then there would be no parking requirement.

She could go ahead and open a business. the the zoning is there. So, um there would be no discussion on driveways, there would be no discussion on gravel, there'd be no discussion on anything. So, I I think that is uh with with us as a commission, my opinion, us as a commission, we should encourage more development, not discourage it, in these areas. And we're having a a difficult time in these areas even getting a lot of development. and we have someone in front of us now that's willing to bring something back to Irving's heritage. Um I I do agree that it is difficult. I do agree with the other commissioners as far as driveways and stuff, but from the standpoint it's a unique piece of property. It's she's wanting to bring it back to its original condition and keep it at its original condition. And by doing so, there's just so many changes that can be made. But the commission needs to be reminded that she can open this up by saying she's moving in it for 6 months out of the year. We're done.

It wouldn't even be brought in front of us. So, I don't think we should deny her wanting to open the business. I think that we have the proper things in place with building inspections and we have the proper things in place um with the city to make sure that it's not going to turn into a 20 25 person professional office

and um she does have room to grow if it does that. But I think we should support this as a commission. We are to encourage development, not discourage it. Uh I tend to think that the the concerns that you know the narrow issue before us is whether there's a hardship and it it's not it's not clear to me that there there is a hardship in this case um especially in light of the space the empty space um to the south of the property which uh looks like it would be available for for use for the additional parking but um but I can understand moving a business in and wanting um so I gather there is interest in expansion uh not wanting to to do that at this time. But um one of the issues that came up in the work session was the uh the possibility that may be required to have an ADA spot. Um that would take the is asking for two spots and that would take half the parking. Then um that seems to be a problem. You know, uh if it was it was less of a reduction in the the amount of required parking, it seems like that would be one way of solving some of that concern. um looked to me like you probably could put three parking spots in without without making any significant modifications. Um I don't have a problem with the gravel component of it. Uh that seemed like a a possible middle way if if there was any interest in that. There was a commission

there was a comment made Jocelyn during the work session and correct me if I'm wrong and I don't know if this is for Wayne or not but it's um the comment was made there was discussions with building inspections and the building inspections and everybody else is okay with giving somewhat of a variance or an understanding dueess of this property. Am I correct?

Yeah. In discussions, the building official did give some um indication that he would as long as it was retained at such a low intensity with a small number of employees that he would work with them in terms of the staging of what was necessary to meet the codes and then if that was expanded then the additional codes would apply. So building inspections themsel is okay with working with the uniqueness of this property. Yeah. The building official. Yes. Building official. Okay. Thank you, Commissioner Denning.

I ju just wanted to follow up on a few comments. I the the staff finding for this case is no unnecessary hardship. And I think if one were to follow that staff finding, it's not a vote to discourage development. This the city has actually provided guidelines to encourage development, clear guidelines. I don't think these guidelines are unnecessarily burdensome or, you know, obviously create some undue hardship. So, uh, I'd love to see this property enhance the Heritage District. I think the requirements that are set before us, uh, are reasonable. So, thank you.

I'll make one more comment, Mr. Mr. Dy. Um, I understand the staff said there was no findings of no hardship found. Uh, based upon the building official willing to work with them and to try to figure out a way to make this work, that's an indication to me that there is some sort of a hardship to keep this thing property unique and to keep it in its current condition. And uh, that's just my opinion on it. Any any further discussion or do we have a motion? Commissioner Amed.

Yeah, I'd like to make a motion. Um I'd like to make a motion for zoning case 224394 ZC to be recommended to the council for denial. Okay. Second. We have a motion and a second recommending denial. Please vote. failed and Oh, I didn't Can you reset that? I didn't mean to abstain. My apologies. I just put on the record as a So, you have to you have to Yeah.

Well, I didn't make a motion in the first place, but we can we can take that motion failed because it didn't pass. Um, so we can take a new motion. Uh, I'll make a motion for zoning case 20243- I mean 394-ZC to city council for approval.

I'll second. All right, we have a motion and a second recommending approval. All right, please vote. Oh, I messed up this time. [laughter] Okay. Well, I meant to vote now, but it didn't matter. Uh, so it passes 6 to 3, even though it should have passed 5 to 4 cuz I messed up and wasn't paying attention enough. 54. Um, all right. Uh, it goes with a recommendation of approval though either way. So,

all right. Well, then let's move on to item number nine. Zoning case 2025-129-Z located at 906 King Avenue. Is the applicant present? Sir.

Hi, good evening everyone. How are you guys doing? Uh my name is Mortisa Mahala. Uh I am a Irving resident. Uh I'm here to represent the zoning case 2 2025129 ZC. Um so I was here last time in front of you guys. Uh um and uh there were three items uh that I was told to address. Um and the three items uh were um I had I had a T shape design. Um, also there was a concerns about the property value if I did the T-shape uh uh because of the square footage. Um, and then there was the third item was the width of the lots. Um, so I was able to uh take that and uh looked into what I could do and uh in front of you this is uh I was able to uh extend the lots. I was able to eliminate the T uh design. Um, I was able to get the square footage or the property value addressed as well. Um, I had a problem with the 2 feet uh width expansion that was uh recommended. Uh, the reason uh I ran into an issue with that is right now the building that's there um if I was to ex or I think that's track one. If I was to extend that 2 feet, uh there's uh because that building that's there currently, the plan was to turn that into a single car garage. Um if I was to do that, um as the standard single car garage width is 10 ft, um if I increase that to 57 as it was recommended, um I will not be able to create the singlecar garage. I would have to demolish that entire um structure that's there and basically I

wouldn't have a garage. I would just have that one property. Uh due to that issue um I was uh forced to keep the the the width as 55. Um and hopefully I hope the counselor would you know I I was able to address the two of the concerns that were there. It's just the third one I wasn't able to do because of that reasoning. Okay. Was that all your presentation? Uh, yes. Okay. You're open for questions? Yes. All right. Um, you mentioned track one, track two. Why Why didn't you move that one over? Um, expand it.

Uh, so I could actually move track two, but then I just wanted to keep those two equal, 555. Um, but there was no issues with making track to 57, but then I would have two, three different allot sizes. So, I was just like, well, I rather just keep two equal ones cuz it would I mean, if you approve the first one, why not the other one? That was my reasoning. But, I mean, if you if I don't have an issue making track 257 if it really needs to be, but I don't see a reason if you're going to approve one of them. Okay, great. Thank you. All right, the commissioners have any questions for the applicant? Anybody else? Commissioner Amed?

Yeah, just for clarification. So, I hear your point about in track three, you have that little structure. Are those two separate structures from the picture? Seems like you have a garage and then you have a shed like a car a carport. I mean, no. So, so it's two structures that's connected by um like a shaded area uh like a walkway path if you will. Um so that's what that is. It's not a garage though. So the structure that's there that would be uh turned into a garage today. It's like a detached structure that's used as like a storage.

And then if I remember correctly, Mr. Mahala, you said that in the future you're thinking about moving that house back and that was the reason for the tea. Yes, in the future my plan was probably like 5 10 years from now. Okay. Uh take that entire demolish everything that's there and then move the house back a little bit. Um that was my original plan, but now if I'm just going to do this then I don't know when I'm going if I'm going to ever move the house back uh because you know I changed that's not in consideration right now. Correct. Yes. So, is that a carport right now? That that little structure?

No. So, that structure used to be, I believe, a carport, but it was the residents that lived there turned it into a I guess two bedrooms, but it wasn't really used as bedrooms. It was used as more of a storage. Uh so, what basically what I'm proposing is um it's a little bit bigger, right? So, because of that fiveT rule is basically the issue right now. uh because of the five feet rule, if I do 55 um I can reduce that by four uh four feet of that structure. That'll give me exactly 10 ft left where I can turn that into a single car garage that it used to be before and basically turn that into a house with one single car garage.

Okay. And you haven't changed too much there. And you're open to making track 57. Yeah. like if if I have to then I'm definitely open to it. But yeah. Is that something that's keeping you from making that 59? [clears throat] Which one? 4T track two. Uh then the only variance would be track one. So the so if I I feel if I make that 59 I'm going to have that issue with that 5 ft uh because that would actually make me get rid of the house or modify the house. That's going to be a big issue. Um, so yeah, that would not work. Thank you, Commissioner Reyes.

Did you mention what that lower level piece was on the down to the south end? Yes. Nearest to track two. Uh, no, there's nothing there. It's just uh it's just a grass area. Oh, okay. That's Yeah, there's Yeah, there's nothing. I think they have like a little fence just made there because they had some dogs and things uh in that property before, but uh yeah, there's like no structure or anything there. Okay, thank you. There there is a structure on the track one side in the back which has been covered up, but there's like a like a shed in on track one, but that's part of the track one. It's on part of track one. Yes.

I would I know you mentioned for track two moving it uh if you need to for that 57. I would argue that that would be beneficial on your end. Um, just stating that that would be track 2 would be a larger and I know you mentioned this is just an opinion but I know you mentioned wanting to sell it but it would make it more ideal in terms of property value and size um making it a little bit larger um piece of land. But just a comment to you that's all. Thank you. question I got for you is what is the distance from the house to the property line on track three to track two? Um this

how many feet from the house to the property line from track three to track two? Track three to track two. Um I would actually I don't know exactly how much that is. I would have to go look. I believe it's like 7 I again I don't I don't have it in front of me so I can't tell you. I I would say we're probably like 7 ft or 8 ft. I would say how much? I think it's like 7 ft or something like that. I I would have to go get you the exact measurement. I do not uh remember. Okay. But you're saying 17 ft? No, no, no, no. Seven to the to the

track three, right? So track three and track two is what you're talking about. I mean, maybe it's not to scale, but comparing it to your one frame structure that you're going to turn into a garage, it looks like it would have to be at least 14 ft. Yeah, I I didn't really draw it to scale. I just Yeah. Okay. It's not drawn to scale, but again, I can answer I can find that. I think moving track two to 59

based upon your scale that you have, and I don't know if it's the scale or not. I agree with Commissioner Skinner on this one. um that would still give you a 10-ft set back off the house. That would put that one lot in compliance. And now we've all agreed, if I'm not mistaken, that track one would be very difficult because you'd have to move the driveway because of the radius. So track one we could see getting a variance on it, but track two I would be in support of moving it to 59 feet to make it in compliance. And then you're just asking for a variance off track one, which is understandable due to the driveway and the curve and everything else. And I I appreciate you going back and working with staff and increasing the lot sizes and getting as close as you can, but are you willing to do something to that effect and just get a variance on track one and make track two in compliance?

Um, cuz you're 300 square ft off of making it in compliance. I don't know what that would be, but to make it with the neighborhood um compatible with the neighborhood, we're looking at 59 ft. So, you could actually move track 2 over 4T and you would take that lot completely out of consideration. Lot track three would be in compliance and then you'd just be asking a variance on track one. Um, so I really don't want to make the track three that small. So, because I wasn't planning on selling that, which I had uh mentioned last time,

um, would you guys be willing if I made the track 257 like cuz that would take care of the square footage. I guess it's a compromise. I can support that. I can support that. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, if that's and I understand the hardship you got on track one as far as moving it over with the driveway and the curve based upon what building inspections have said, but uh track two I still feel that it needs to be bumped over a little bit, but I could support 57.

Okay. Yeah, if that's the case, then I'm completely willing to do that. I can make that 57 uh if I can keep track one the way it is and then take a little the two feet from track um three. All right. So, the compromise is doing the 57. Okay. On track on track on track two. Tracked one at 55. Yeah. Because Yep. And then because of the hardship of the driveway and then the the variance on the square the lot area as as that is dictated by those numbers. Correct. Him moving it over I guess you know on track two it wouldn't then need a variance.

It wouldn't need a variance on track two because he moved it over two feet. He's gaining 392 square ft, which gives him the 307 variance that he needs. So, so track 2 would only have a variance to allow it to be 57 ft rather than the 59. And track one would have the two variances to be 55 ft and then um the reduction of 2.8% the 307 ft. Correct. Okay. Correct. Any other questions for the applicant? No. Thank you very much. Thank you.

Is there anybody else who'd like to speak in favor of this item? Anybody in opposition? No. Then I'll return it to the commission for any discussion and a motion.

Um my just this is a comment. Um I'm actually keep I'm okay keeping it as it is right now. I mean, I don't really see the need of having him change it as we already asked him to modify it and come back to us and now we're asking him again to modify it. We should have done that the first time if that was the intent. So, I mean, I don't really see the what difference will really make two feet in this scenario. I mean, whenever we're really granting the one on the on the left side as well. Um, I mean, I don't I don't really see if it's really needed to to for for this case in particular.

Commissioner Denny, I just uh a couple of comments. I just appreciate the applicant being flexible and uh uh open to modifications. I think the principal concern when this was first before us was uh maintaining the character and integrity of the neighborhood which is what the the requirement is really driven at. I mean these these are uh even though the the large lot is being split into three they're still um pretty decent sizes and very close to meeting the the regulations. So for those reasons I can support it. Any further discussion? Commissioner Reyes.

Uh, yes. I support it with the conditions of the 57. I agree with the Commissioner Sangino, but um I just feel that with just one lot being tight as it is would make it more conforming versus the two and then it just being just So that's the reason for the 57 versus 59. It won't be as tight in the neighborhood. Any further comments or do we have a motion? Commissioner Lightoot.

If there's no other comments, I'd like to talk. Okay. Uh I'd like to move uh zoning case 2025-129-Z to city council for approval with lot or with track lot two. Is it track two? two. Yeah. Track two moving to 57 feet and leaving the uh uh track one at 55 ft. And I'll second. And that has the the lot area variance only for track one. Yes. We would just be asking for a lot variance of track one and a width of track one.

I'll second and a two foot variance on track two. All right. We have a motion and a second recommending approval with the conditions specified. Please vote. And the motion passes unanimously. All right. Now you move on to city council on this. Okay. On to item number 10. Zoning case 2025-140-Z located at 1301 uh Ronnie Drive. Is the applicant present? Yes, sir.

Uh, good evening. My name is uh Jose Andrade. I live in Irving and uh she's my daughter. She's going to be translating to me. Okay, great.

My name is James Andrade. Um, I'm going be translating and presenting on behalf of my dad, Jose Andrade. Um, his address is 2606 Circus Drive, Irvin, Texas, 75062. Um, we are here to request approval for reasoning of a property in the city of Irving. The land is currently designated as RS7.5, which allows for a single family residential use. However, due to the size of the property, we are proposing to reszone and subdivide it into three separate lots, each with an RZLA designation. Um, this subdivision would allow the land to be used more efficiently while still maintaining the residential character of the area and each new lot would comply with the series zone zoning standards including lot size, setbacks, and access requirements. Our goal is simply to formalize the division of the property so it can be developed simp responsibly and in harmony with the existing neighborhood. Um, we appreciate your time and consideration of this request and we're happy to answer any questions you may have.

Great. Thank you. Uh, any questions for the applicant? I have a question on the 41 ft rear entry lot. Um, how do y'all propose with the setbacks to put a house on that? Um, we made changes to 40, the first two 40 ft and the other one 55.

Because um the requirement is only 40 ft. I'm lost. So So the the spacing that's listed on the picture is not accurate. It's it'll it'll be 40 feet on on each of the ones on lot five. Okay. We are not we're not sure who um submitted this, but the requirement is only 40 ft by 90 ft.

I think what Commissioner Lightoot's really wanting to ask about is the the easement that goes across that that one parcel, the one that says Jose Alani on it that it has an electrical easement. Um, we already talked to the electrical company and they said they can move it if the request is approved. Okay, so probably going to move it. Okay, great. Thank you very much. Yeah, Mr. Light, did that answer your question? All right, any other questions for the applicant? No. Thank you very much. Thank you.

All right. Is there anybody else who'd like to speak in favor of this item? Anybody in opposition? There not being anyone, I'll return to the commission for any discussion and a motion. I'd like to make one comment. Uh I can support lot five. I I think the one towards the Shady Grove is going to be very difficult uh with due to the setback. So, if we're passing a motion to support all three lots, uh, I can't support it. Okay. I think we would be voting on whether to reszone this entire parcel to be um zero lot line and then it would be a matter of uh the owner or the applicant then working with um with the city in order to divide, you know, see how it could be divided up in accordance with with those portions of the code. We would be just saying the kind of lots that would be there, not we aren't specifically giving approval for the number of lots.

So let me clarify with Mr. Chairman, if I can add some just a little clarification. Uh this is this is just a straight zoning case. There's no site plan involved. Uh what was done here was just an illustration of how one could do up to three lots but if they can't do three lots the RZLA would you know they would have to do two lots if it wouldn't work. So um that ultimately would be determined at the platting stage what would work or not work um based on on the zoning the and the amount of

So we're not we're not approving three lots. You're not you're not approving three lots. You're approving straight zoning. This was done to help. It was meant to help and it didn't to make it easier to try to fit something on it. Right. I understand. Okay. Okay. Then at that point, I can support it. Okay. Great. Um I don't I can't see who's next. So, uh

Well, I was going to make the point I I I do think that illustration shows that a zero lot line designation is problematic. I I think with the with the busy street with Shady Grove and the area um to me it's not a good fit um to to change it to that uh zoning use. So for that reason I couldn't support it. Mr. Re I was planning on making a motion but then I had a question. Zero lot line that's um town homes correct? No no it's less intense. So this this is a compact neighborhood zone on the comprehensive plan. Zero lot line is the least intensive okay thing that fits in that category

if I understand correctly that that right other than R six yes uh well in in the compact neighborhood right right I do want to clarify because the applicant mentioned uh the 40 ft I do want to mention that it's uh 40 ft is the lot width if it's a uh if it's a rear setback if it's a front setback it's 47 ft feet. So, I want to make sure that that's clear and that's why that those dimensions were shown on the plan on the drawing that way. Okay.

Okay. Well, if no other commissioner has any comments, I'll go ahead and make a motion to zoning case 2025-140-Z to city council for approval. I'll second.

We have a motion and a second recommending approval. Please vote. And the motion passes 7 to2. Now that still goes to the city council. So you still need to go to the city council and get their approval, but go goes with our recommendation of approval. All right. On to item number 11. Conditional use permit 2025-188-CU located at the 2500 block of West LBJ Freeway. Is the applicant present?

Uh, good evening. Um, Andrew Yo, 6X14 Cleo Spring Circle, Garland, Texas. Uh, I'm the engineer and represent the client. uh here to answer any question and I was in the work section and I hear some of the concern uh about maybe the traffic. Uh we only proposed one entrance there. That's the reason because we don't want to get into the busy traffic on the Home Depot drive. Uh I think we that is the best location. We not create extra entrance. Uh and then the we have a three driveway stacking uh that will be sufficient for the car wash. So it will be prevent any uh back off to the street and then that is a share access drive. We think this is what is good for the car wash use. And we also uh back from last PNG meeting with at the the building uh elevation with the three dimension uh also at the landscape uh landscape plan with showing the tree with screaming the uh Home Depot dry and also the 635 make it look nice and uh add a shrub around the the driveway to to make a screaming. So, I'm here to answer any question you have any concern.

Great. Thank you. Uh, do any of the commissioners have questions for the applicant? I guess I do.

Um, because there's a car wash that was just built down the street from this and then there's a car wash on Belt Line on 635. So, why put another car wash in that area? Um I'm not the business owner. So that's the decision from the developer. Uh the that's a re they must do the marketing and uh they invest over a million dollar maybe four or$5 million on the car wash. So I believe they done some research on the marketing and it must be uh uh some uh car wash business there. There's a demand. Uh maybe it's a HB and then there's a resident there. There's a demand there.

Well, HB is going to bring a lot of traffic right there in that area as well as Home Depot still has all their traffic and then you want to put a car wash there too. uh business is because of the traffic uh they because there's there's a a customer there and there will be a use there for car was I believe that what is the uh why the the the the owner willing to invest the money over there um they see the potential of the the business that's yeah Okay. Any other questions for the applicant? No. All right. Thank you very much.

Thank you. All right. Anybody else who'd like to speak in favor of this item? Anybody in opposition? No. Then I'll return it to the commission for discussion and a motion.

I'll say I can't support this. Way too many car washes already in that area. It's either a warehouse or a car wash. All right. Uh, Commissioner Pritchard, unless there's any other comments from commissioners, I'd like to make a motion for zoning case 2025188 cup uh to be forwarded to city council for approval. Okay, we have a second

a motion and a second for recommending approval. Please vote. And the motion passes 8 to one. All right. Uh item number 12, special fence plan 225 or 2025279 SFP located at 1614 Arcadi Lane. Is the applicant present? Yes. Where ma'am? Uh would you like to come down and present or are you open to answering questions if we have any? I mean it's just a fence and

I I we they want it recorded. Do you mind coming down? There's [clears throat]

Thank you. I appreciate it. Up close. [laughter] Uh, yes. I've been at this. And your name? Oh, my name is Vanessa Ramdanny. The address is 1614 Arcade Lane. I've been a resident of Irving ever since I well over 30 some odd years, but I've lived in this house for 33 years. [clears throat] And I don't see a problem where the fence line is. um moving it uh closer to my porch, I think it would be a disadvantage to my family. Um

and animals. Yes. [laughter] Uh I just want to replace the fence that's already there. I mean, it's been there ever since I moved for 33 years. Uh it hasn't been a problem for the commercial business. uh kids plasma. Um everybody could see coming in and out of uh Irvin Boulevard, so I'm just hoping that you'll approve it. All right. Well, thank you. Um do any of the commissioners have any questions for the applicant? No, it looks like we don't actually. Sorry. All right. Oh, okay. I guess

so. You're done. Um uh is anybody else who'd like to speak in favor or in opposition to this item? [clears throat] No. Then I'll return it to commission for any discussion and a motion. If no further discussion, I'd make a motion for special fence plan 2025-279-SFP at 1614 Arcadi Lane to be forwarded to city council with approval.

I'll second. All right, we have a motion and a second recommending approval. Please vote and the motion passed unanimously. Now, just keep in mind it does still go to council and so they're they're the final decision on it, but it goes with our recommendation that they approve it. All right. Thank you. Have a good evening. All right. Item number 13, zoning case 2025-346-Z located at 1710 Beverly Street. Is the applicant present? Sir,

good evening uh commissioners and I'm Ivan Velasquez and I'm representing 1710 Beverly. We would like to uh expand uh the house is around,000 square feet and make an expansion of two bedrooms in a family family u room. And so uh the problem was the setback on the the circle there in red 13 8 I believe and so we would like to see if if this can be done. So I'm open to any questions. Okay. Do the commissioners have questions for the applicant? No, doesn't look like it. Thank you.

Thank you. All right. Is there anybody else who'd like to speak in favor of this item? Anybody in opposition? No. Then I'll return to the commission for any discussion and a motion. I would have to agree with the city staff that a hardship exists due to the shape of the lot, the way it sets and it's a difficult lot to build on and especially what's there now. Um so I would be in favor of it. Mr. Amed? Yeah, I'll echo that and I'd like to make a motion if there's no further discussion. Um I'd like to make a motion for zoning case 2025 346 ZC. uh recommend to the council for approval. I'll second.

We have a motion, a second recommending approval. Please vote. And the motion passes unanimously. All right. Again, like the other ones, it still goes to council, so you want to go there as well because they have the final decision on it. All right. Item number 14, zoning case, uh, 2025-361-Z, located at 7650 ERS Boulevard. Is the applicant present? Yes. Hi,

my name is Rita Lucon. I'm with Masters Transportation. We are the actual applicant and the owner of the property who would be our landlord is also here. Joan, what's

Hi, I'm Joan Wyn. I live in Dallas. Um, I've owned this property with my son for 17 years. We office there for nine years and we had a motor coach operation. Uh, we sold it and we leased it to two different uh, tenants and Masters is now wanting to um, lease it from us February 1st of 26 and we're hoping that we'll be approved. I do want to mention one thing that was mistaken in the U work session. They're not buying it. They want to lease and we're open for questions. As as the uh company that will be operating on the property, I'm here to answer any questions as to what our operations specifically are because we're asking for a variance in the use and obviously I haven't spent much time on the property. So, you have to ask the owner about other specifics. I think one of the questions from the working session was um uh the uh where the service of the vehicles are. This is we are a rental lease and uh sales company that used to be that used to house motor coaches. What we rent um lease and sell are a little bit smaller. The shuttle buses that you would be accustomed to seeing um with our parking operators. We are a primarily a businessto business operation. So there is not a lot of foot traffic or traffic in general that would be on our property. Uh we've been operating in Irving for about 5 years already. Um at the current facility we only have um we don't have a very big space and we employ about five to six people at this new expanded space. we could um we anticipate employing between 15 and 20 full-time employees and we um pay great rate uh wages and full health

benefits. So, uh we will be creating jobs in your community. If you have any specific questions about what we'll be doing on the property, happy to answer them. I I think you're referring to the question that I had just what what is meant by service in this context? It is just cleaning and keeping them running. Okay. Nothing serious. Not like mechanic shop. Not in not in the formal way you say it. No, we don't wouldn't take in others and fix things. You know, we might fix things on our own on our own vehicles, but it's not that level of mechanic shop. Now, any other questions for the applicant? Mr. Amed?

Yes. So, how many what's the size of the fleet? Um it depends on what you're referring to. So we rent, lease, and sell. And so um at we we're headquartered in Kansas City, Missouri, and we are um operate throughout the country. Um here in Dallas right now, at the most we have parking for about 100 vehicles. They're never all there at the same time because they're being operated. Um at the new facility, I think there is room for about 120. Is that right? 120 vehicles total.

Yeah. So, by fleet, I meant your rental vehicles that you're renting out. How many are those in operation and rotating here in this loanation? I'm going to have to turn and look at my the VP of rental that's going to know that number. Is that all right? How many are here? 30 40

30 in our rental fleet. But again, it's business to business and it's not a lot of short-term rentals. They're renting them for periods of time. Masters Transportation is kind of uniquely positioned in that our customers are usually operators and if something um if one of their leased vehicles or vehicles that they own goes down, we can fill in with our rental vehicle. That's really who our customer is.

So, I just want to build on Chairman Skinner's question about service. So, when one of your vehicle is out of service, are you repairing it on site and how are you equipped to repair it? Do you have a lift that you repair? Do you How are you doing like your normal maintenance service like oil change, brake change, things like that on those vehicles?

Um, I don't believe we have a lift on on this site. Um, like I said, we're headquartered out of Kansas City. If it needed a serious repair, we'd probably take it back to Kansas City, but we would do some minor repairs like oil change or mostly it's going to be cleaning though. Our rental vehicles don't stay in the fleet very long. the maximum they would be there is uh probably a couple years and so we do not have that level of service.

Okay. I don't think I'm getting an answer. I'm looking for maybe I'm not saying it correctly. So when you're going into this operation as part of your plan, you are definitely equipping yourself what kind of repair you're going to be able to do for these vehicles. So I'm looking for that. How are you equipped for that? Where is that going to happen on that property? Is there a bay for that? Is that going to be visible? Uh, no. It will not be visible from the road. You see, I don't know if we can pull that up, but on the site plan, it um the maintenance building is the larger one kind of towards the back. You see where the fire lane is? It's the one behind that. And we call that the maintenance building, the square one.

And and Commissioner Ahmed, I was because I was I was asking Jocelyn about this. Um the the zoning for the property would not permit major auto repair as a use. So that's correct. Yeah. So we understand that. Yeah. So it wouldn't be So yeah, it would be the minor sorts of things. Yeah. So if that's what you were getting at too. Yeah, that's what I was trying to ascertain. Yeah. All right. Any other questions for the applicant? No. Thank you all very much. Thank you. Thanks.

And just one added thing, it's so similar to the other use that you know, uh, we were buses. They're mini buses, so to speak. Their equipment's smaller and they don't move as much as we did. So, thank you. I hope you'll consider us. All right. Is there anybody else who'd like to speak in favor of this item? Anybody in opposition? Then I'll return it to the commission for any discussion and a motion. Commissioner Amed.

Yeah, I I think it's a it's a good use for that land. Um given especially that it's B2B um and it's mainly like rental vehicle that's kind of coming in and out of there. It services the area, services the airport. Um I think it's a it's a good complimentary business to the area. Commissioner Aras, I was going to make a motion if no one else had any comments. Did you? All right. Will I make a motion for zoning case 2025-361-Z to city council for approval? Second. I'll second.

We have a motion and a second recommending approval. Please vote. And the motion passes unanimously. All right. On to zoning case 2025-362-Z located at 11:01 West Royal Lane. Is the applicant present? Yes. Thought I recognized you. He's back. [laughter]

Uh, good evening. Tommy man, 500 Winstead building representing the applicant. Um, we have a presentation, but this is obviously a project that you have seen and considered. We're excited about to have been approved by the city council. And this is just for the alcohol sales portion of the Kirby ice house. Um, so I can pull up that presentation or answer questions or I can let you have the rest of your evening back. Um, how about we move to questions? Uh, who has questions for the applicant? Anybody? Anybody who wants him to do his presentation anyway. Cowboys are playing. I'm not offended. Y

All right. No, no questions. No. All right. Thank you very much. Is there anybody else who'd like to speak in favor of this item? Anybody in opposition? No. Then I'll return to the commission for any discussion and a motion. Um Alicia, would you like to make the final? Or do do we have do we have Does anybody have any comments before we get to the motion? Just to double check. [laughter] No. No. Okay. Commissioner Reyes. Yes. I'd like to make my final uh approval to zoning case 2025-362-C to city council for approval. It's just because it's your final.

It's my final one. Thank you all. [laughter] All right, we have a motion. Commissioner Ahmed, did you second? All right, so we have a motion and a second recommending approval. Please vote. And the motion passed unanimously. That's our last item. Commissioner Reyes, thank you for your service on the commission. Thank you all. It was it was a pleasure. Yeah. All right. With that, the meeting is adjourned at 8:25 p.m. [music]

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