City Council - Regular Meeting

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Welcome to the regular meeting of the Irving City Council for August 27, 2026. It is a pleasure to have each one of you with us, and we look forward to moving right through our agenda, so stay tuned. At this time, Sinead, under organizational service announcement, do we have anyone signed up to give an announcement?

Yes, sir. We have Zach Rulon and you have three minutes and I think Mayor Sapanta wants to say something.

Hello, everyone. My name is Zach Routon. Thank you for having me here tonight. And I'd like to extend a special thank you to Councilman Pfaff for inviting me to speak. Also, thank you for all you guys do to serve our city. I'm one of the pastors here at Grace Point Church in Irving, Texas. And Councilman Pfaff invited me to speak in regard to an event. that we had in the community called the Jesus Loves Irving Serve Day, which was a backpack drive where we served our community. Real quick, what is Jesus Loves Irving? Jesus Loves Irving is a network of Christian churches in Irving who desire to connect and make a practical positive difference in our city. The following churches have been involved with the Jesus Loves Irving Network in different capacities. Casa de Dios Cielos Abiertos, Christ Church, Grace Point Church, Heartland Family Church, Irving Church, King's Dallas Church, Meadowbrook Baptist Church, Oakview Baptist Church, Plymouth Park Baptist Church, Solid Rock Church, Templo Cristiano Agape, and Victory Outreach Church. This is 12 churches, which represent over 3,000 congregants in Irving. Churches connect when pastors connect. The pastors who are involved with Jesus Loves Irving meet several times throughout the year for lunch. Our goal is simply connection, but when community needs arise, such as the backpack drive, we are able to mobilize hundreds of volunteers and financial resources to meet those needs. A few event highlights. We had over 1,000 people who received a backpack with school supplies at the Lively Point Youth Center. Shout out to Kinsley Cunningham for allowing us to have it there. These backpacks were free. There were absolutely no requirements, and you did not have to be associated with any of our churches. It cost over $15,000, and this kind of came together last minute. So we raised this money in about four weeks. Multiple community organizations were in attendance, such as Irving Cares, All Things Made New, HAT, Premium Barber Academy, and even the Irving Youth Theater. We had more than 120 volunteers who served at this event to help make it happen across many different churches, and they did a phenomenal job. I believe Jesus Loves Irving has proven that we can effectively mobilize churches, organizations, businesses, volunteers, and financial resources. We'd like to collaborate with the city when practical and possible to help meet the needs of the community as much as we can. With the future in focus operational strategic plan, Jesus Loves Irving could likely contribute in a meaningful way to the sense of community and safe and beautiful city initiatives. What gets focused on gets done. Jesus Loves Irving would like to focus on benefiting the residents of Irving as much as we can. Thank you. God bless.

Don't leave yet. Please. I'm going to ask Congressman, Councilman. Are you running for Congress? No, no, no, no. Okay. Okay. Councilman David Beth, who I know visited you and saw it. David, you may want to say a few remarks.

Yeah, thank you, Mayor, and thank you, Zach, for doing it. I parked and could barely get in with the thousands of people standing in there and walking in, seeing, doing free haircuts for these kids, getting the backpacks done, and then all the, just the different service organizations with popcorn and... ice cream to help these kids and really start out their year in a positive direction. Can't thank you enough and thank all the churches for what you've done. So it's a great thing and look forward to better things. Would you like to say a little bit what you're doing for Christmas?

Thank you for that invitation. I always like to have a what next in my back pocket. There are 1,400 kids in Dallas County whose parents are incarcerated and they are part of an Angel Tree program with prison fellowship. I have spoken to the representative for this organization and had told them we have a lofty, God-sized goal of adopting all 1,400 of those kids in Dallas County. and making sure they have a Christmas this year. And I believe with all the churches and organizations and businesses that have been involved with this backpack drive, we can definitely accomplish that goal, and we plan to do so. And if you want to help, that would be amazing.

Great. Thank you very much. Thank you, David. Okay. At this time, invocation, will you please stand? The invocation this evening will be given by the Reverend Deborah R. Jones of the First Christian Church of Irving.

Thank you. Would you pray with me please? However, creating God, you've provided us with words for living together daily as well as the words of eternal life. And you help us to cultivate informed and informing speech. So we humbly ask you to give everyone who speaks this night clarity of thought in choosing words for discussion so that with simplicity each may say truthfully what they mean. and that it may be worth saying. Guide us all with economy and graciousness in speech that neither wounds nor offends, that affords light without generating heat, leading those tasked with making decisions to do so wisely for your best future of our whole community. This we humbly ask in your most holy name. Amen. Amen.

This time I'd like Councilman Connerwatt, if you would, to lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Honor your Texas flag. I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state, under God, one and indivisible.

At this time, I think we have a proclamation of announcements. Am I correct, Shanae and Julia? Okay, I guess I'm supposed to come down there, right? All right.

Councilman Zapanta, hold on just a minute. Mayor Zapanta, my apologies. My apologies. My sincere apologies. We're trying.

All right. And I want to thank Maria Rios. I think you're here with us, right? With the rest of our group. So I'm going to go ahead and read our proclamation. Whereas payroll organization and its more than 20,000 members have launched a nationwide campaign paying tribute to the nearly 150 million workers at the United States and payroll professionals who pay wages, report worker earnings, and withhold federal employment taxes. And whereas these professionals play a key role in maintaining the economic health of the City of Irving by insuring the payment into the unemployment insurance system and carrying out tax withholding, reporting, and depositing. And whereas the departments with payroll professionals collectively spend more than $2.4 trillion annually, that's dollars, complying with federal and state wage and tax laws and play an increasingly important role to protect the economic security of the American families by helping to ensure non-custodial parents comply with their child support mandates and Whereas payroll professionals have become increasingly proactive in educating both the business community and the public at large about the payroll tax withholding system. And whereas meeting regularly with the federal and state tax officials, payroll professionals aim to improve compliance and government procedures at less cost to both government and business. Now, therefore, I, Albert C. Zapanta, Mayor of the City of Irving, and the City Council do hereby proclaim September 1st through September 7th, 2026, as Payroll Week. Congratulations.

Hello, good evening, everyone. On behalf of the Dallas Payroll Chapter, or the Payroll National Org, I am honored to accept the proclamation recognizing National Payroll Week. We extend our sincere thanks to the Mayor and the City Council of City Irving. I think this is probably my fourth time returning.

Very thankful for that. We are honored. Payroll is more than just numbers. It is about people. It is about ensuring that every employee is paid accurately and on time, supporting compliance, contributing to financial well-being of families and businesses across the city. So it goes to say that payroll is the livelihood of an organization. Without it, nothing moves forward. This proclamation is a meaningful and recognition of the dedicated precision of precision and integrity apparel professionals bringing their work every single day. It shines a light on profession that often operates behind the scenes and plays a vital role in the success of every organization. We are proud to represent a community of professionals who are committed to excellence, and we are grateful to be a part of a city that values and celebrates their contributions of payroll. Thank you again for this honor and helping us raise awareness for National Payroll Week. We look forward to our continued work with pride

Thank you, Mayor. Thank you.

Okay, City Manager Hillman, do we have a city operations update?

No operations update, sir.

Okay, thank you. Public hearings. Item 2, public hearings number 1 on the 2026-2027 City of Irving fiscal year budget. Sinead, do we have anyone signed up to speak on this item?

No one on number 1. Mayor, well, let me see. Hold on. Yes, we have Laura Anderson. Laura, you've got three minutes. I have documents to...

I was told to hand them to the officer.

Yes, please. Thank you.

Hi, Laura. Hello, Mayor. I'm going to go ahead and it looks like everybody's got one. Yes. I'm going to go ahead and get started. Laura Anderson, 14. Oh, can I get my three minutes? I need every bit of the three minutes.

I'm going to start it over for you. Okay, start.

Okay. Mayor and members of the City Council, before you approve more than $1 million per year to add two municipal judges, bringing the total to five, I ask one question. Why does Irving now need five judges to perform work that two judges were already performing in 2024? Before May of 2024, as Irving judges and Dallas County magistrates, Judge Adams and I conducted magistration twice a daily on weekdays and once during the weekends. Everyone held in the Irving jail, from Class C defendants to those charged with most serious felonies, were placed on the next available docket. We advised the defendant of their rights, set bonds, prevented unnecessary detention and transfers. County magistration did not stop because we were unable or unwilling to perform our duties as Dallas County magistrates. The city attorney, city manager, and police chief imposed a policy preventing us from doing our jobs. That unlawful policy began May 1st, 2024. Four months later, Judge Adams and I were replaced. With county magistration removed from the judge's duties, the city appointed a city of Dallas judge, who still to this day has no experience performing Dallas county magistration. For more than two years, over 5,000 people were denied timely access to an Irving magistrate and the opportunity to bail out of the Irving jail. Instead, arrestees were needlessly transferred to the already overcrowded Dallas County Jail. The city now faces two federal civil rights lawsuits challenging that policy. Patrick Jones entered the Irving Jail on March 10, 2025. He was not brought before an Irving magistrate. More than 24 hours later, he was found unresponsive in his cell during morning cell check and later pronounced dead. Yet the city reversed course only after the Dallas County Sheriff announced $567 charge for every prisoner transferred without first being magistrated. Now taxpayers are being asked to spend over a million dollars a year for two additional judges, even though a third judge was added in December of 24 to assist with magistration, and he has not magistrated one Dallas County charge. The city manager discusses paying $1 million from the general fund without acknowledging that according to the Office of Court Administration, Irving retained nearly $4 million last year from state fines and fees collected through their municipal court deposited in that general fund. Before approving this expenditure, require a public accounting of who stopped county magistration and why, the human and financial cost of that decision, and objective evidence showing why five judges are needed when two previously performed this work. Resume county magistration, but do not make taxpayers spend a million dollars a year correcting a problem the city of Irving created.

Thank you, Laura. Thank you. That's our only speaker tonight, Mayor.

Thank you. Item three, public hearing. Public hearing number one on the fiscal year 2026-2027 proposed tax rate. Sinead, do we have anyone signed up to speak on this item?

No, sir.

Okay, thank you. We have consent agenda items four to 34. Any comments or do we have a motion?

Motion for approval.

Is there a second? Please show your vote. Next, individual consideration items, items 35 through 37. item thirty five ordinance public hearing and first reading an ordinance amending Chapter 33 entitled Refuse Garbage and Weeds, Sections 33-33 and 33-34 of the Code of Civil and Criminal Ordinance of the City of Irving, Texas, providing for new solid waste service rates and fees. Shanae, do we have anyone signed up to speak on this item?

No, sir.

Make a motion to approve.

Is there a second? Thank you. Show your vote. Zoning cases and companion items 38 to 45. 36. 36. 36. 36. Thank you. Page stuck. Page 36. Item 36, ordinance. Public hearing and first reading. An ordinance amending sections 41-57 of article 9 entitled municipal drainage utility system. of Chapter 41, entitled, quote, Water and Sewer Systems, close quotes, of the Code of Civil and Criminal Ordinances of the City of Irving, Texas, setting a new schedule of draining charges. Sinead, do we have anyone signed up to speak on this item?

No, sir.

I'll make motion to approve.

Thank you. Is there a second? Second. Show your vote. Item 37, ordinance. Public hearing and first reading on ordinance amending chapter 52 entitled, quotes, water and sewer rates, close quotes, of the Code of Civil and Criminal Ordinance of the City of Irving, Texas, providing for monthly water and sewer rates. Sinead, do we have anyone signed up to speak on this item?

No, sir. Sorry, our computers are not working, Mayor, so I'm having to look at somebody else's in front of me.

I'll make a motion to approve.

Is there a second? Second. Show your vote, please. Thank you. Pass unanimously. Thank you. Zoning cases and companion items 38 to 45. At this time, we will ask anyone wishing to speak for or against any of our zoning cases to stand and be sworn in by the City Secretary, Sinead Jennings. Is there anyone in the audience that would like to stand to be sworn in? Please, thank you.

Please raise your right hand. Do you solemnly swear or affirm that all statements which you will make tonight to the City Council of the City of Irving will be the truth and nothing but the truth? Thank you, you may be seated.

Item 38, Ordinance 2026-155-CP, amending the comprehensive plan future land use map from regional commercial to mid-density residential at 215 East Airport Freeway. Sinead, do we have anyone signed up to speak on this item?

Yes. We have Robert Watkins, followed by Chan Patel.

Okay, Robert, please join us.

Good evening, Council. MY NAME IS ROBERT. I'M AN IRVING RESIDENT. I LIVE IN NICHOLS PARK WHICH IS VERY CLOSE TO THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. I'M ALSO ON THE BOARD OF NICHOLS PARK. THIS SUBJECT MATTER HAS COME UP ON OUR BOARD FOR SEVERAL MONTHS NOW. ALTHOUGH I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD WHO ARE NOT HERE. OVERWHELMINGLY WE SUPPORT THE PROJECT, WHICH IS A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, YOU PROBABLY KNOW BETTER THAN I, ON THE CORNER OF WINGREN AND 183 THERE, WHICH HAS BEEN AN EYESORE FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW, AND THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL BRING BEAUTY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I FULLY SUPPORT IT. THANK YOU.

Thank you.

Chan Patel.

My name is Chan Patel. I live at 1404 Cottonwood Valley Court in Irving. I have been a resident of city of Irving since 1981. And good evening to everybody in the council. This project was started three years ago and about two years ago the council approved the site plan but then when we costed it out it was too much expense so we went back to the drawing board and reduced the number of residences from 85 down to 52 and after three appearances in front of the planning and zoning, I was able to get an unanimous vote to satisfy every member on the planning and zoning. So in short, it is a five-acre tract, 52 homes, all of them two-bedroom, I mean, sorry, three-bedroom, two-car garage, and it's a secured community, gated community, rather. And we have taken all possible means to reduce the traffic issues because that was the main problem. And at this time, I think if the council will approve it, we are ready to go. So if there is any questions, I'll be happy to answer.

Thank you. Any questions from the council at this time?

Adam? Not really a question from me. I just wanted to say thank you for, especially for working with the Homeowners Association with Nichols Park. And I know this is a difficult property to get done, but you picked up the original vision for the community and you took it through to the finish line. I feel like you did it the right way and I appreciate it. It will make a big impact in District 7, my district. Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mayor. How are you doing? Great, sir. I just have a question on... I heard that this community is going to be, as you mentioned, it's gated. Is it for senior living or is it?

It is originally the zoning was for senior living. So now it is changed to multiple living. But I'm still going to go ahead with 55 plus. And 80% of the occupants will be 55 plus.

Good. Because there is very high demand of senior livings in Irving. So I was very happy when I heard about this project coming in at 183. And best wishes from you.

And I'm doing it for non-profit. In other words, I'm going to sell everything at my cost, no profit. This is my giving back to the city of Irving.

That's good. Thank you very much. Okay. If no further comments, then I would like to make a motion to approve. I'll second. Is there a second?

I'll second.

Gentlemen, show your vote. Thank you. Next item. Item 39. Ordinance 2026-120ZC, zoning change from SB2. CC, generalized site plan, community commercial, including senior independent living, assisted living, and nursing home uses. State Highway 183, overlay SB2, MFA. one generalized site plan multifamily residential one for low density multifamily uses a state highway 183 overlay variances to the overlay fence and multifamily development standards 215 East Airport Freeway Shanae do we have anyone signed up to speak?

Yes, the same two people Okay, mr. Robert Watkins and mr. Chan Patel

Mayor? Yes. This is a companion case to the case we just approved, so I'd like to go ahead and make a motion for approval on this case. Is there a second? Thank you.

Please show your vote. Thank you. Thank you, gentlemen. Item... NUMBER 40, ORDINANCE 2026-132ZC, ZONING CHANGE FROM R-7.5 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL 7.5 to SP2R-7.5 generalized site plan, single family residential 7.5 to allow guest quarters in the detached building with variances including in the front of the main building, maximum height and minimum side yard setback at 1701 Landmark Road. Sinead, do we have anyone signed up to speak on this item?

Yes, sir. LaShelle Rita, followed by Greg Skinner.

Mayor, council members, thanks for hearing our case today. We are here because P&Z recommended, and I quote to make an example of our case, my homeowner purchased this home with this guest quarters garage already in place, the height and the setbacks already in place, plumbing already in place. The homeowner decided to add fixtures and before moving anyone in to recoup those costs, he did put that guest quarters on Airbnb. The city was notified. The homeowner was notified. Changes were made. Everything was shut down. No more money was taken. We began the process. Excuse me. the homeowner began the process of rectifying it with the city. At first, he tried to add an attachment to attach the guest quarters to the main home. It would not work, so he hired my company to come in and get a proper permit for it. At that point, it became, you know, this issue with, you know... THE PLUMBING WASN'T THERE BECAUSE THE SYSTEM CHANGED WITH THE CITY OF IRVING WHEN THE ORIGINAL PLANS WERE SUBMITTED. THERE WAS NO BACKUP THAT WE COULD PROVIDE THAT SHOWED THAT THE PLUMBING WAS ALREADY EXISTING IN THIS GARAGE, IN THIS GUEST QUARTERS, IF YOU WILL. SO WE FOUND THE ORIGINAL DRAWINGS. I FOUND THE ARCHITECT WHO IS RETIRED. I WAS UNABLE TO GET THOSE CITY APPROVED STAMPED PLANS, BUT I DO THE ARCHITECT DRAWINGS THAT I PROVIDED ON TUESDAY AS WELL AS THE ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS TALKING ABOUT PERHAPS THERE WOULD BE A PARKING ISSUE. THIS PROPERTY DOES NOT HAVE A TYPICAL DRIVE UP TO A GARAGE ENTRY. ACCESSORY, EXCUSE ME, THE GUEST QUARTERS GARAGE IS IN FRONT OF THE HOME, THE MAIN HOME. THAT IS THE WAY THAT IT WAS BUILT. IT IS GATED. IT IS ALSO FILLED WITH TREES. I ALSO SUBMITTED A DRIVE-BY, PHOTOGRAPHS AS YOU'RE PASSING THE PROPERTY. YOU CAN HARDLY SEE ANYTHING ON THIS PROPERTY FROM THE MAIN ROAD. THERE WOULD BE NO PARKING ON THE STREET. WE ARE JUST TRYING TO GET TO MY HOMEOWNER, MY CLIENT IS PERFECTLY FINE PAYING THE FINES AND WORKING WITH THE CITY WITH INSPECTIONS, WHATEVER IS REQUIRED, BUT ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE REFLECTED ON THE ORIGINAL PLANS. THE SINK UPSTAIRS, THE SINK AND RESTROOM DOWNSTAIRS, IT'S ALL THERE. MY CLIENT JUST ADDED FIXTURES. PERHAPS HE CROSSED A LINE WITH THE AIRBNB. We are here to rectify that. We have been trying to rectify that since the beginning of the year. We are just hoping to not be made an example of. My client was under the impression that he was only beautifying the property and making his home what he wanted it to be. And that is our case.

Any questions from any of the members?

Greg Skinner, do you have anything to say?

Dennis?

Thank you, Mayor, City Council. I'm the homeowner at 1701 Landmark and also an Irving business owner. And like Lachelle said, we're just trying to get straight with everything. We hired a contractor who said he was pulling permits and that was not the case. So we're willing to do whatever it takes, but the house and the original plan show bathroom, living area, the whole thing. So we're just trying to get it rectified so it's legal.

Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you.

Dennis?

Yeah, I got a question. So you had mentioned that your client bought the house. I assume you bought the house. Yes, sir. And this structure was already there?

Yes, sir. We bought the house in 2019. The house was built in 2003. Okay. So the property, it's a separate garage and living space over the garage. and then also downstairs there's a shower and a bathroom, which was on the original plans, but apparently the city changed systems in 2010, so the original plans aren't on file anywhere.

Okay.

But we do have a copy of the original.

Okay, so you bought the house in 2019. It was built in 2004, and the original plan submitted to the city actually had the floor plan that we saw today on those plans? Yes, sir.

The plans that were submitted before end of day on Tuesday include the photographs that I spoke about driving by the property and not being able to see any parking, even though there's plenty of parking, as well as the original drawing from the original architect.

Okay, so it was approved with the second story Also in the original plans?

Correct, in the original plans it shows living area upstairs with a sink and a counter, a small kitchenette, and then downstairs a shower, bathroom, and toilet.

And photographs for that were also provided by P&Z themselves. They included those Zillow photos, and I also re-uploaded them for this meeting as well.

Yeah, I'm just trying to get to how the building arrived and its configuration. So it was like that before you bought it. Plans were submitted to the city with that configuration. And so now it is considered... ILLEGAL, I GUESS.

THE SETBACKS HAVE CHANGED AND BEEN UPDATED. CURRENTLY, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE CITY OF IRVING DOES NOT ALLOW ANY UNITS IN FRONT OF THE HOME, IN FRONT OF THE FRONT FACADE. THAT HAS CHANGED. SO, YES, THAT SETUP WAS INITIALLY APPROVED BY THE CITY OF IRVING WHEN THE HOME WAS BUILT.

I HAVE A QUESTION. IF SOMEBODY GETS SOMETHING and then the city comes in and makes some changes, how does that affect what's already approved? Does it nullify what's already approved?

Jocelyn, could you please come down?

Yeah, Jocelyn, where are you? Please join us.

Sorry, I didn't hear the question. So they testified that the house was basically built in 2003, 2004. They bought it in 2019. The plan submitted to the city when all this was built included what's actually there now.

I have not seen those plans. So when we reached out to inspections, we got the information there was a permit for a garage. I haven't seen any plans that had any detail as to whether that's correct or not.

So does the inspection department have the set of plans?

They could not find the set of plans because when we were running the case, we asked for that.

Okay, so they couldn't find the set of plans. So there's no set of plans to say that this wasn't like that.

then there's no set of plans to say it was like this but y'all said y'all have a set of plans yeah i don't know that we knew about that um we did track down the original architect and he said he would not give us the city approved plans but he could give us the original plans as well that were submitted to the city just not stamped so currently we submitted a microphone please

The plans that I submitted were not stamped approved by the city. So we reached out to the architect hoping that we could do that. He could not provide that, but said that he would work to do that. This architecture firm has been closed for a dozen or more years. So this man is in retirement in Florida and trying to help us and was unable within the 20 days that it took from the denial until today. I'm still hopeful we'll get them, but I do not have them today. I only have what I submitted, which is the original set of drawings that show that unit, where it is located, and those two plumbed areas.

And were these architectural drawings, blueprints?

Yes, and signed by the architect, signed and sealed.

Okay, so it's probably what would have been turned into the city.

That is a fair assumption, yes.

Okay.

Anybody else?

Yes. David and then Abdul.

Well, Mayor, that being said, I don't know if you mind postponing this case. We'd like to get all these facts, and I don't want to make a vote tonight that would be detrimental to you if we have better information that you bought a house already like it, you know, the way it is, if that's an option for us. Especially if the city approved it.

YES, AND AGAIN, AS AN ELEMENTARY RESPONSE, WE HAVE THE ORIGINAL ZILLOW PHOTOS THAT PNZ PROVIDED.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW OR IF YOU DON'T MIND DELAYING IT UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING.

WHATEVER THE COUNCIL RECOMMENDS. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

As of this being presented, I am not in favor of this unless you provide all the necessary information for us to determine whether we approve or not approve. The only thing I could say is the way I understood, the improvements which you do on this unit has not been done with the permit. Am I correct?

So changing fixtures, adding a plug-in range top, no, we did not get permits for those. Re-carpeting, no, we did not get permits for those. No, sir.

So the intent of all of these improvements is to...

HOMEOWNER REALIZED THAT IS NOT WITHIN CITY CODE AND THEN WE BEGAN THE PROCESS OF WE ARE MAJORLY OUT OF THE CODE NOW. THERE IS DEFINITELY SOME DISCONNECT ON HOW THIS HOUSE WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT. I'M SITTING HERE WITH THE ORIGINAL PLANS AND I CAN SEE THE PLUM. I'm not sure where to start. As you said, maybe I need to dig deeper and find those stamp drawings. But because the system has changed, it's almost like we're being punished because we're unable to track down those documents from a firm that's been closed, again, for over a dozen years. The gentleman has retired.

So, Jocelyn, if they find the information, what is needed for us to look at, they have to go through the P&Z and come back again?

No, they can come back to you. I mean, P&Z made a recommendation on the information they had, and then if you have more information, then you can make your decision based on that. Okay, thank you.

Conor.

May I ask, are the documents that I uploaded available to you at this point in time? No.

I don't think so.

I didn't know there was any .

No. Okay. Okay.

Yeah, I have a question for Jocelyn. The information for the case talks about paragraph 15 says the primary single family residence has a one car garage while the original detached garage provided for parking for two cars. So there's a lot of reference to this being a garage, a two car garage.

Yeah, the permit that was found, it was for a garage. So if there was anything in addition to the garage, it's not there in writing. We couldn't find the floor plans for it or the building plans for it because it's so old.

What was the year of the permit for the garage? Oh, gosh.

Let's see if it's in your... Oh... YES, THE HOUSE. THE GARAGE WAS BUILT WITH THE HOUSE PROBABLY IN 2003. THE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 2003. 2004 IS WHAT WE SHOW IN OUR REPORT, SO EARLY 2000S.

A PERMIT WAS ISSUED TO BUILD A TWO-CAR GARAGE IN 2004 AFTER THE HOUSE WAS PREVIOUSLY BUILT IN 2003?

THEY COULD HAVE BEEN BUILT TOGETHER. IT WAS PROBABLY AROUND THAT TIME.

THE ORIGINAL PERMIT FOR THIS STRUCTURE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW WAS FOR A TWO-CAR GARAGE?

YES.

And if a permit, if it was going to be billed as a guest quarters back then, the permit would have been for a guest quarters.

I would have hoped that it would have mentioned something about having any type of utility, but it just matters who entered it on that day 25 years ago and how they described it.

Okay. All right. And then... So what other evidence is there is that it was a garage besides that permit?

That's only information we have of the original construction of the property.

Okay. And then when a CO was issued, it would have been reviewed to see if that construction was in line with the permit?

There wouldn't be a CO issued. It would be more just a final of the building permit for a residential property.

Okay. And that would have been checked to see if it was a garage or a guest course?

At that time, yes.

Okay. Okay. And, sir, you said the intention is to use this as a long-term rental?

No, sir, we just want to use it as guest quarters and extra space. We have grandchildren and children that often come into town, and so we're planning on using it for that. Okay. And it's still a garage on the bottom level.

It is a garage.

It was built as a garage. It has a utility sink and it has a restroom in it. It also has a utility sink on the second floor. I believe that it was built as a utility garage. The homeowner came in and put carpet in it. He built a cabinet and he felt like he was well within his rights to change the garage that he used into a man cave. Sorry.

It was actually when we bought it on the MLA listing, it listed guest quarters above the garage, which is one of the selling points of the house.

And when did the prior owner make it a guest house? We bought it in 2019 from the original owner.

And he told me, that's why we have all the plans, and he told me that they'd always use it as guest quarters upstairs, because it has HVAC, it has plumbing, it has everything that you would think guest quarters would have.

So it was built out initially as a two-car garage, and then at some point, it was mail-submitted guest quarters, but you don't know exactly when that was?

I believe it had happened originally when they built the house. They built the guest quarters over the garage. It was part of the original plan. And the plans, the architectural plans show that.

OK. THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE UPLOADED, PNZ HASN'T SEEN THAT EITHER, RIGHT? YOU JUST UPLOADED IT NOW FOR THE FIRST TIME. YOU JUST GOT THIS INFORMATION FROM THIS?

THE DRAWINGS, YES. THE PHOTOGRAPHS, NO. IN FACT, PNZ ALERTED ME THAT THOSE PHOTOGRAPHS EXIST ON ZILLOW THAT SHOW THAT THAT UNIT IS PLUMBED BOTH UPSTAIRS AND DOWNSTAIRS.

OKAY. I think this is, I mean, if the PNZ hadn't seen that information, or I guess some of them saw it, I guess, on Zillow.

Again, just the photographs, not the drawings. I didn't get a hold of the drawings until recently.

Okay. I'd be in favor of it going back to PNZ for them to consider everything. Adam.

Thank you, Mayor. I would, too. Actually, I think a postponement would be ideal outcome tonight. And then a question for Jocelyn. between 2004 and 2019, let's say, or now, did the ordinances on accessory dwelling units

change or have those always been there was a point where guest houses were allowed by right but i think it was in the 80s when it changed to where they had to be by sp i haven't looked at that lately but it was in the 80s or 90s i believe um i'd have to look that up but so they used to be allowed by right but i don't think it was this recent where it changed

Okay, meaning 2004 or later? Right, right. Okay. I don't know. If we could confirm that, that would be helpful in the decision as well. Thank you.

Okay, David, and then Dennis, do you want to talk too? David, go ahead.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Mr. Skinner, 2019 is kind of my litmus test here. You say you have the Zillow before that? You have Prince before that? So if you can, please come back and let's see all that. Because this is, I mean, you bought the house in 2019. You think it's conforming, and I just see the ramifications if we don't come to some sort of good agreement for you.

Yeah, I appreciate that, and we can show you the photos. You know, I made a lot of mistakes. I'm not going to say I didn't. Part of it was not knowing the procedure, and part of it was our contractor that we hired. But we're just wanting to make it right. Yeah, thank you.

So the contract that you hired, did he do any structural changes that's not on the plans? There is drywall. No, structural walls. So the walls and the structure was original from day one, you assume.

The footprint of the unit did not change.

And so the actual walls and the structure and all that, none of that changed either. It was built this way to begin with based on plans approved by the city.

Yes, sir. Yes.

Mayor, thank you, Mayor. You said you added a wall?

Yes, we did. The contractor did add a wall upstairs in the guest quarters. There's a wall added, and then downstairs to, there's still a garage, but part of the, it was a two-car, and so he put a wall down the middle, and that's the only structure.

And what's the function of the wall upstairs?

The function of the wall upstairs is just dividing a bedroom to a bathroom.

So what was the function, sorry, like you added a bedroom or you added a bathroom?

No, there was a bathroom added upstairs. Not added, just there was already existing plumbing, so we put in the fixtures.

Okay. So it was plumbed previously, but you converted that or enhanced that into a functioning bathroom with shower, toilet, all that. That was not there before.

It already had a sink and a disposal.

Okay. So it was a utility bathroom.

And HVAC. So we added a toilet and a small shower.

Okay.

We took the small shower from downstairs and put it upstairs. So there's no shower downstairs now.

Yeah, I'm with my colleagues here. I think there's some more homework to be done. We would hate to ask you to, you know, make those decisions. So if there's no more comments, I would like to make a motion to postpone this.

Yeah, I'm going to comment on that. I think that what's being presented to us is a lot different than what P&Z saw. And with the procedures in place that P&Z is supposed to consider everything, And they've also heard the information that was first presented to you, which seems now to be different, or maybe just more, than what they first considered. And so I think that it ought to go back to P&Z. So I don't think it ought to just come back to us for more fact gathering. I think that the procedure is that for the P&Z to consider all the facts that are available, they make the recommendation based upon that, including listening to you, and then we review that. So I'm opposed to just a postponement to us. I think it ought to go back to P&Z.

I agree, only because whenever I first addressed PNZ, I was only addressing what's listed here, the variances, the height, the things that were existing beyond the plumbing that was existing, and that's not what they wanted to hear. They wanted to see plans. Now I have that. I have that information. I'm ready to present that, and that's what I was hoping to do tonight.

I guess we're at a point of order, Mayor.

I got it. Point of order. For clarification on the proposal, on the motion on the floor with a second, is that due a date certain? And if so, could we clarify what the date certain is?

Yes. Did you want to make your comment?

To our next meeting, September 10th. Okay.

That date is September 10th.

Okay. Okay. Dennis, did you want to make a comment before we go? Yeah. We have a motion and a second to postpone it to September 10th. Is that correct?

Does that get enough time for PNZ to look at it?

No.

We're going to have to move it later.

If you want to go back through PNZ, we need to make a change in motion.

Let me amend that. Can you help me with when is a meeting in October?

Anybody? October 8th?

The October P&Z date is October 8th. I'm sorry, October 6th. And then the council date would be October 29th if you want to send it back through P&Z. We're preparing for the September P&Z right now, so there wouldn't be enough time to put it all together.

I'll make an amendment to change the postponement date to October 29th. Okay.

Okay.

At this point, go ahead. Okay, so I want to make sure that when you bring back what you're going to bring back, because I kind of heard something different that I asked the question. I would like to see the plans of the building when it was built, but then also I'd like to see the plans of the walls that was added and when they were added, because that's two different things. I was under the impression that all the walls were built at one time, and then he said, no, they added walls, and they added walls. So that's different to me.

I have, I have those feelings. We do have those. Okay.

And so though, and those, so, so that changed the structure actually. Okay. Which is why I'd like to know what was actually the structural walls when it was built. And then the, when was the final structure walls put up as two different times? Yeah.

Mayor, just a point of clarification for Jocelyn. Thank you. Um, October 6th, is that a Tuesday that you're having PNZ? or October 5th, which would be a Monday. Monday?

I'm sorry, it's the 5th, yes.

Okay, so October 5th, just for clarification, October 5th would be the P&Z meeting, and October 29th would be the City Council meeting. And just for those that made the motion and the second, it probably would be helpful just to incorporate that this item would go back to P&Z on the 5th and then return to Council on the 29th. Correct? Okay.

Well, that's a change of the actual motion.

That's correct. The maker has to make it. Okay. They need to amend their motion. Okay.

We're good with that? Yeah. Okay.

We got a second.

Okay. You got it? Okay. Are you all clear on the process of what we were doing? We're trying to give you time, number one.

Yes, sir.

And it's important that you go back through the process with the planning and zoning. And that way you can present everything and then assuming whatever comes out of that, You'll be back with us at our session towards the middle. What's the date on October 29th? Okay. Are we all clear on that? Yes, sir. Okay. I want to give you one last input. Obviously, the young lady is either your consultant or advisor. Okay. Are you familiar with our ethics? Okay. Please take a look at it. because register the next time you get a chance, okay? Anyway, thank you very much. We're trying to help you. I think you know that, so we gave you the timing.

Appreciate your time.

Gentlemen, show your vote. Okay, you have your postponement back, but it's really to the P&Z, okay? Thank you. Thank you very much. Okay, I'm now at item 43, Ordinance 2026-208-CZ, Zoning Change from CO Commercial Office, DML 20A, Light Industrial. 20A to ML 20A, light industrial 20A at 4790 and 4800 Regent Boulevard. Sinead, do we have any person to comment? Mayor, actually, you got it?

No, we do not have a speaker for item 41. We're on item 41. Okay.

I'm having my paper stick on me again. Okay. All right. I'm back on 41. Ordinance number 40.

You read the right caption, correct?

I'm sorry.

Okay.

Say again?

Nope. Proceed. 341, sir.

Yeah, that's what I thought. Okay. Ordinance 2026-203, ZC, zoning change, SP1, detailed site plan for drive-in restaurant at C-N, neighborhood commercial, 1310 West Pioneer Drive. Sinead, do we have anybody to comment on this or speak?

No, sir.

Okay, at this time, any comments from the council, or do we have a motion?

I'll make a motion to approve. Second. Second. Okay. Show your vote, gentlemen.

Okay, passage in Madison. Item number 42, Ordinance 2026-21. 229-CP, amending the comprehensive plan future land use map from business office to manufacturing warehouse 4790 and 4800 Regent Boulevard. Sinead, do we have anyone signed up to speak on this item?

No, sir.

Okay, gentlemen. Motion for approval. Thank you, show your vote, gentlemen. You got a comment?

Is the applicant here? Could you come forward? Yeah, I watched the P&Z meeting and I had a question about what your intentions are for the property in the future. Do you have plans for redeveloping it now?

no we don't uh... so exit the existing properties are to office buildings one of the two buildings we've recently released to uh... attended will take the full building uh... for a ten-year term So the 4790 building will be an office building for many years. The 4800 building is about 80% leased to a tenant that has four years left on its lease. And we just don't know whether they're going to renew that lease or not in four years. It's a coin flip. So our reason for wanting to rezone the property is so in the event that they don't renew, that at least we could evaluate it further and have the optionality to develop an industrial building there in place of the office building. We think that the highest and best use is clearly an industrial building.

Okay. I'm sorry, when is that lease up? You said next year?

Four years from now.

Four years. But you're expecting that you'll be able to generate more income if it's converted to industrial, and so you're trying to get everything lined up in anticipation of that.

Yeah, because we're obviously going to engage with them well before this lease comes up for renewal. And if we were to find out that a renewal is not going to happen, then it would allow us to, with the zoning in place, it would allow us to go ahead and get all of the pre-development work done so we could start that redevelopment as they vacate the property.

Okay, thank you. Okay, the maker of the motion and the second. We're good? Okay, show your vote, please. Passes. Thank you, gentlemen.

Thank you very much. Appreciate it.

Item 43, Ordinance 2026-208ZC, Zoning Change from CO Commercial Office and ML20A Light Industrial, 20A to ML-20A Light Industrial. industrial twenty eight dash four seven nine zero at four eight zero zero region boulevard today do we have anybody to comment on this mister make a motion to prove seconds to show you will please thank you ordinance item forty four 2026-209-ZC-Zoning Change from SP2, R-6, and P-O. Generalized Site Plan, Single Family Residential, 6, and Professional Office to C-N Neighborhood Commercial, 2305 West Northgate Drive. Sinead, do we have anyone signed up to speak?

Nikki Cinelli.

Hi there.

I brought pictures.

I didn't know how to upload them. Please say your name and address for them.

Hi. Nick Cinelli, 2310 Hillandale, Irving, Texas. Thank you. And I brought some pictures. I didn't know how to, if I had to upload them or give them to whoever or for what we're going to talk about.

You can place them on the projector right there, and I'll pull them up. Great.

Okay, so I'm opposed to the process for a couple reasons. Water flow, drainage issues. This is the back of the property where when it rains and it pours, heavy rain comes down Northgate through the back of the properties. Well, if you start putting commercial plans or houses and everything back there, where's the water going to go?

Well, through here is the only drain that the city has.

We've gone to city engineering saying, hey, can you come down and look? Because this is a wall that we built and obviously it's depleted. But that's all you have that's going to catch all that water coming off the North Gate. City Engineering hasn't come down and spoke with us about making it bigger because I believe all that water goes to the other side of North Gate where that park is. And the water has literally come through our yard. This is all cracking of it. So we've had to build a trench at the very end of the property. along at the trench and then along with old brick wall to prevent water from going into the house which water has gone through our house two times for the past sixty years april may i put a water barrier i got amazon by a big water barriers the water to to prevent water and i put it back with the trenches so water doesn't come over but we have because that that water is just incredible you wouldn't believe you look back there and it's a dang ocean when it comes through there so you start putting concrete that's not going to absorb the water because obviously the soil will absorb it concrete won't it's just going to push it on down so city engineering comes through and says yeah we can make that bigger okay but until then all the two properties will get flooded and then you start putting new houses back there those houses are going to get flooded why do i know that because ours did And water just goes. It's a river. I don't have current pictures because when it rains, we have to prepare for water coming through the house, which it has. And then we have to start lifting stuff up. But I've stood back there and water has come up. And it's pretty scary when you see a river literally coming at you. So that's why I'm opposed to this unless city engineering comes out and says, yeah, we can make that water and go from there. If you guys need these.

Thank you. Any questions?

Was there a second person that was going to speak or not? Okay.

Thank you. Okay. Do we have a motion?

I have a question for Jocelyn.

You have a question? Yeah.

Jocelyn? So, Jocelyn, typically, you know, when people are concerned about the drainage issues, we always tell them that that's a platting issue. I mean, can you speak to that as far as, like, what can be expected for when a development plan comes in to account for drainage issues? A lot of times these developments come in and it's an improvement over what was there before as far as drainage. Right.

It'll go through. If it's already been platted, which I'm not sure if it has or not, I think it's been platted with the residential to the west. If it hasn't been platted, there'll be civil plans that will have to be prepared as part of the platting process. If not, those plans will have to be prepared as part of the building permit process. and that will go through engineering and water and traffic, and everybody will look at those. But, yeah, they'll pay that, obviously, for parking, and that will have to be graded toward the drainage structure, and they'll have to maybe channelize, maybe detain, but all those studies will be done at the time of building permit or plat, whichever they have to do.

Is it fair to say that we would expect that if this property were to be developed, there would be adequate drainage so that this flooding onto this man's property would stop?

Normally, as you said, it improves it because right now it's natural drainage. So once it gets engineered, it will actually kind of channel it into a different place.

Yes, Abdul.

I think we have an applicant here. I would like to hear from the applicant.

Good evening, Mayor and Council. I'm Jim Dewey with JDJR Engineers, 2500 Texas Drive, Suite 100, Irving, Texas. I have to apologize. I wasn't here by 7, so I'm not allowed to sign up after that. I wish there was a way that we could sign up online or something in case I'm running late. I apologize for not being here exactly at 7. Welcome, Jim. I'd be glad to answer your question.

Just the gentleman explained about the water and the trench and all of that. So after this development, is that issue going to be resolved or how does it look like?

Yes, there is a kind of a large drainage channel that goes through the adjacent property that he may be referring to. This property on the far east end does not have the channel going through it, but it drains to the same point on the north side, which does have an underground pipe that intercepts the flow and takes it from that point on. I do think that the earth channel may be undersized, and so there is some additional flooding there. Our drainage pattern... by code, and we'll have to get it approved by all departments, cannot make any drainage worse. And hopefully, we'll be intercepting all onsite drainage with an underground system that will connect to the outlet pipe on the north end and should improve the situation. OK. And I do commiserate with the homeowner. I do think that channel does have some issues, but it's on the adjacent property.

OK, fine. I just wanted Mr. Dewey to come and speak.

If no further comment, I would propose to motion to approve.

I'll second.

Okay, before you do that, Jim, don't go away. I wanted to see if you could take an earlier plane next time.

I will definitely try.

Because Sinead's whispering in my ear, that's why. Anyway, thank you. Show your vote, please. Passes? Okay, we're on to Item number 45, ordinance 2026-211 SESFP special fence plan to allow an eight foot tall solid wood fence within the side yard setback of the reverse frontage lot zoned R-7.5 single family residential 7.5 at 614 Lexington Drive. Shanae, do we have anybody who would like to speak?

Yes. She said, if necessary, Deborah Kitchens.

I didn't hear her. Is there a name?

It's not necessary she speak. I'd like to make a motion for approval. Second.

I have a motion and a second. Show your vote, please. Motion passes. Item number 46, resolution, reappointment of the Dallas County Flood Control District, number one, aboard. David and Dennis have the motion. So David, if you would move that motion, and Dennis, if you would second it. And that motion is to appoint, at this point, before we do it, Shanae, we have everybody to come on this item.

Yes, sir.

Okay. So are you moving?

Okay. All right. All right, David, go ahead. I move to reappoint Donna Lipsick to the Board of Directors of the Dallas County Flood Control District, number one, to a term expiring August 2028. Second. Show your vote, please.

Okay, at this point, I think we've completed our agenda, and so at this point, that concludes our regular agenda for tonight. We'll pause briefly before beginning our public comments.

Thank you. ¶¶