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Chair Okimoto: ALOHA GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. TUESDAY, MARCH 10, 2026, TIME IS 9:05 A.M. WILL THE COMMIT EVEN BUDGET PLEASE TO ORDER. WELCOME TO COMMITTEE 34E78S, PRESENT IN THE CHAIRMAN PERS TODAY. COMMITTEE VICE CHAIR NISHIMOTO, COUNCILMEMBERS CORDERO, KIA'AINA, AND TULBA. ALSO JOINING US TODAY LIKE WILL WELCOME COUNCILMEMBERS TYLER DOS-SANTOS TAM AND TUPOLA. ALL RE REMOTE ORAL TESTIMONY PERMITTED REGULAR IN PERSON MEETING NOT REMOTING BY TECHNOLOGY. HRS 92-3.7. MEETING WILL CONTINUE NOT ABOUT STANDING LOSS OF AUDIO-VIDEO COMMUNICATION WITH RE340E9 TESTIFIERS OR LOSS OF PUBLIC BROADCAST OF THE MEETING. MEMES PUBLIC WILL BE ALLOWED TO PROVIDE ORAL TESTIMONY ON ALL ITEMS ON AGENDA IN TWO WAYS. IN PERSON AND COUNCIL CHAMBER AND REMOTELY VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE OR PHONE. COMPLETE AND IN PERSON ORAL TESTIMONIES WILL BE ALLOWED WHEN EACH AGENDA ITEM IS TAKEN UP. BEFORE TESTIFYING, EACH PERSON SHALL STATE THEIR NAME. EACH SPEAKER MAY NOT HAVE ANYONE ELSE READ THEIR STATEMENT AND LIMITED TO A ONE-MINUTE PRESENTATION ON EACH ITEM. AS BOTH ENGLISH AND WAHINE ARE OFFICIAL LANGUAGES OF THE STATE OF I WOULD, PER PURSUANT TO ARTICLE 15 SECTION 4 OF THE HAWAII STATE CONSTITUTION. AND SECTION 1-13 OF THE HAWAII REVISED STATUTES, MOMENTS PUBLIC MAY TESTIFY IN EITHER LANGUAGE. ORAL TESTIMONIES OFFERED IN OLELO HAWAII, DYNEL AS MAY BE NECESSARY WILL BE ALLOWED FOR THE TESTIFIER TO PROVIDE ENGLISH TRANSLATION OF THEIR TESTIMONY. ALL PERSONS REGISTERED TO TESTIFY IN PERSON WILL BE CALLED UPON FIRST. AM YOUR NAME DOLLED PLEASE COME UP TO THE TESTIFIER PODIUM PEPPERS NOT REGISTERED TO-DID PERSON IS NOT REGISTERED GIVE EVERYONE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY TECHNOLOGY REGISTERED TESTIFIERS. AFTER IN-PERSON TESTIMONY HAS CONCLUDE, I WILL PROCEED TO

REMOTE TESTIMONY VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE OR PHONE. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE P MONITOR YOUR SCREEN AND FOLLOW THE PROMPTS TO UNMUTE. FOR THOSE JOINING US BY PHONE ONLY, PLEASE PRESS STAR 9 IF YOU WISH TO TESTIFY. AND I WILL IDENTIFY YOU BY THE LAST THREE DIGITS OF YOUR PHONE NUMBER. WHEN YOUR NUMBER IS CALLED, PLEASE LISTEN FOR THE PROMPT TO UNMUTE AND PRESS STAR 6. SOME FRIENDLY REMINDERS AND TIPS, VIDEO QUESTIONS FOR THE NOMINEE FORENSIC FROM A QUIET LOCATION IN POSSIBLE. IF YOU'RE ALSO WATCHING PROCEEDS GHTSZ ON OLELO, PLEASE MUTE YOUR TELEVISION AT THE TIME YOU ARE CALLED TO TESTIFY. WHEN TIMER ON SCREEN REACHES ZERO, PLEASE CONCLUDE YOUR REMARKS AND PROMPTLY. WRITTEN TESTIMONIES INCLUDING TESTIFIER ADDRESS, EMAIL ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER AVAILABLE TO PUBLIC AS DESCRIBED ON THE POSTED AGENDA. COURTESY, PLEASE TURN OFF OR SILENT ALL PHONES FOR THE DURATION OF THIS MEETING. MEMBERS AS A REMINDER IF YOU HAVE ANY SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTIONS. FOR THE DEPARTMENT, THAT MAY COME UP DURING OUR AFTER MEETING. PLEASE PROVIDE THEM TO MY OFFICE SO WE MAY DPIEL THEM FOR THE DEPARTMENT COMPILE THEM FOR THE DEPARTMENTS OR MANAGER'S DIRECTOR'S OFFICE TO ROW RESPONSIBILITY. LOOK FORWARD TOWEL AFTER YOU ARE QUESTIONS. TO RESPOND. PLAN TOPIC AT THAT A BREAK FOR LUNCH AGAIN TODAY. START TIME DURATION WILL BE DEPENDENT ON FLOW OF THE MEETING. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1, INFORMATIONAL BRIEFING. EXECUTIVE DIGITAL APP U CAPITAL AND OPERATING BUDGET REVIEW. WILL PROCEED FIRST WITH TESTIMONY. CLERK DO WE HAVE ANY TESTIFIERS FOR THIS ITEM.

Co YES ONE STANDING BY ONLINE. Chair Okimoto: LIKE TO WELCOME ONLINE ANGELA ANGELA MELODY YOUNG U YOUNG. LANG YOUNG. Council Clerk: CHAIR, TESTIFIER NOT LOGGED ON. Chair Okimoto: WELCOME ONLINE RAQUEL ACHEW. ANGELA YOUNG, GOOD MORNING RAQUEL.

Testifier: ALOHA GOOD MORNING. APOLOGIZE MEANT TO BE THERE EARLY THIS MORNING. PREPPING. STORM PREPPING APPRECIATE THE CONSIDERATION. I'M JUST WANTING TO PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR BUDGET 134EU9ED FOR OCEAN SAFETY. OCEAN SAFETY. RAQUEL ACHEW WAIALUA POKE USE. SITTING COMMISSIONER OCEAN SAFETY COMMISSION TESTIFYING AS INDIVIDUAL. MOKU. VERY CONFIDENT IN WHAT OCEAN SAFETY CHIEF KURT LAGER PROVIDED AND HAD ITS TEAM. I BELIEVE AS A NEWLY IMPLEMENTED DEPARTMENT, WE DO HAVE SOME CHALLENGES AHEAD BASED ON BEING ABLE TO GROW AND SET EVERYTHING IN PLACE. I TAKE GREAT COMFORT IN CONFIDENCE IN WHAT THEY PROVIDE AND SUPPORT THEIR MEASURES AND EVERY ANJJ. I APPRECIATE THE TIME. MAHALO.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE TESTIFIER? OKAY. ANY OTHER, ARE THERE ANY OTHER TESTIFIERS? EITHER VIRTUAL OR HERE IN PERSON WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY AT THIS TIME? Council Clerk: CHAIR, CHAIR THERE ARE NONE. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. SEE NOTHING FURTHER TESTIMONY, WE'LL NOW PROCEED ON WITH THE EXECUTIVE CAPITAL OPERATING BUDGET REVIEW. FIRST AT THE PRESENT TIME IS EMERGENCY SERVICES DPP. FOR YOUR 234-6RGS, PRESENTATIONE DEPARTMENTAL COMMUNICATION 173, 2026. JOIN US TODAY FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF, DIRECTOR JIM IRELAND.

Testifier: GOOD MORNING CHAIR. GOOD MORNING MEMBERS JAMES IRELAND DIRECTOR HONOLULU EMERGENCY SERVICES DEPARTMENT. EMS HEALTH SERVICES CORE TAKES CARE OF PEOPLE. WHAT PEOPLE HAVE HERE WITH ME TODAY IS YOU ARE TEAM. THAT HELPS TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE WHO DO THE REAL DIFFICULT WORK IN OUR DEPARTMENT. WITH ME IS DEPUTY DIRECTOR IAN SANTI AND ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM, LEANNE, SAM, C.J., CARL BRANCH CHIEF AT HEALTH DEPARTMENT SERVICE, DR. MEDICAL DIRECT, SHANNON PIO AND OUR ADMINISTRATIVE CHIEFS WE HAVE COREY CHOCK, JEFF SUPPERNECK. KKENNETH FARIA CATHY GWENETTE HIGA AND ISAAC H.

Vice Chair Nishimoto:IZE H HEP HARD-WORKING EMS AND CORE HEALTH SERVICES. FIRST SLIDE. MOVE OVER HERE. BUDGET HIGHLIGHTS FOR L LOOK AT MY NOTES. 2027, ADMINISTRATION WE HAVE 53% INCREASE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICE .6% INCREASE. AND THE HEALTH SERVICES BRANCH, 35% INCREASE. THE LATER, IN THE PRESENTATION, I'LL GO INTO MORE DETAIL WHY THOSE NUMBERS ARE WHAT THEY ARE. NEXT SLIDE. WE HAVE IF THE LAST YEAR OR TWO, OPENED CITY AND STATE FUNDED MEDICAL RESPITES. THTEASE FACILITIES FOR THE HOMELESS, TOO SICK FOR TRADITIONAL HOMELESS STERPS NOT SICK ENOUGH FOR HOSPITALS. CENTERS. PEOPLE HAD STROKES, HEART FAILURE, DIALYSIS, SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESS AND THESE ARE ABOUT TRADITIONALLY FUNDED BY THE STATE THE A'ALA RESPITE AND LAY LEAHI. IWILEI. SHORTFALLS IN STATE FUNDING. 3 HADN'T $4 MILLION IN OUR BUDGET TO HELP COVER MEDICAL YAZRESPITETO KEEP THIS OPEN. OPENING ADDITIONAL 12 HOUR EMS UNIT. $3.4 MILLION. DEPARTMENT BUDGET OVERVIEW, FOR ADMIN, THERE'S INCREASE IN $4 MILLION. AND ADMIN NOT ONLY COVERS ADMINISTRATION OF THE DEPARTMENT, BUTS WILL, ALL OF SPECIALIZED COMMUNITY MEDICINE AND CORE. EMS THERE IS A $278,000 INCREASE. HEALTH SERVICE BRANCH, $500,000 APPROXIMATELY $500,000 INCREASE. FOR A TOTAL CHANGE IN BUDGET

OF 4.8 MODEL. NEXT SLIDE. ACTIVITY. BREAK DOWN. EMS HAS 77% OF OUR BUDGET, ADMINISTRATION IS 20% AGAIN INCLUDES HEALTH CORE, AND SPECIAL IDENTIFIED COMMUNITY HAD HE HAD MEDICINE. HEALTH SERVICES BRANCH 3%. BY CATEGORY. 73% SALARIES. 24% CURRENT EXPENSES AND 3% EQUIPMENT. SPECIFIC WILL HE, IN ADMINISTRATION, THERE IS A $652,000 CHANGE IN S SALARIES. 3.4 CHANGE IN CURRENT EXPENSE, PRIMARILY DUE TO FUNDING THE PARTIALLY FUNDING ONE OF OUR MEDICAL RESPITE IS AND ESSENTIALLY LESS MONEY SET ASIDE FOR EQUIPMENT. IN ADMINISTRATION. EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICE, NALOXONE APPROXIMATELY $1 MILLION CHANGE IN SALARIES. APPROXIMATELY $1 MILLION CHANGE IN CURRENT EXPENSE AND A $1.6 MILLION DECREASE 234 EQUIPMENT FOR A TOTAL INCREASE OF $278,000. APPROXIMATELY. HEALTH SERVICE BRANCH, THERE IS A $100,000 APPROXIMATELY INCREASE IN SALARY. THERE'S APPROXIMATELY $420,000 INCREASE IN CURRENT EXPENSES. AND THIS IS PRIMARILY NOT EXCLUSIVELY BUT PRIMARILY DUE TO RENT WE NEED TO PAY FOR A MODERN HEALTH SERVICE MEDICAL FACILITY. THAT HAS BEEN FUND PAST FEW BUDGET CYCLES WITH FEDERAL ARPA FUNDING. THEN NO CHANGE IN EQUIPMENT FUNDING. PHOTOS AIL INCREASE IN HEALTH SERVICE OF ABOUT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. TOTAL INCREASE. NEXT SLIDE.

SNAPSHOT WE HAVE 34 VACANT POITIONS. AS COMPARED TO AT LEAST 40 LAST YEARS. SO LOOKING AT THOSE 34 VACANTS, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 12 SIEWNTS. IN CONTRACT POSITIONS. IN OUR WAIANAE EMS ACADEMY. WAIAWA CORRECTIONAL FACILITYVOIE CONTRACT POSITIONS TOTAL EMPLOYEES. AND THEN WE JUST PRESIDENTIALED UNTO VIEWS HIRING 14 NEW E. 346 EMPLET MTS. FISHED OUR INTERVIEWS. FINISHED OUR INTERVIEWS. 34 VACANCIES PEOPLE RETIRE AND LEAVE THE DEPARTMENT. BUT WE ALSO HAVE PLAN SECOND ACADEMY FOR THIS YEAR IN JULY. WITH APPROXIMATELY 20 STUDENTS. SO WE BELIEVE THE MAJORITY OF THOSE VACANCIES WILL BE FILLED IN THE 2026 CALENDAR YEAR. INFECTINEXT SLIDE. IN IS OVER TIME IN HOLIDAY OVER TIME. FOR ADMINISTRATION. WE HAVE $60,000 BUDGETED. FOR HOLIDAY OVERTIME. 100,000 REGULAR OVER TIME @PRIMARILY, THAT'S AGAIN BECAUSE CORE IS ADMINISTRATION. WHEN YOU HAVE THE CORE TEAMS OUT, DOING WORK AT NIGHT, OR IN THE EVENING, OR LIKE FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS GOING TO BE WORKING BECAUSE OF THE STORM. TO HELP GET PEOPLE SHELTERED. THAT'S PRIMARILY THE COVER CORE. OVER TIME. EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES, $6.2 MILLION AND HEALTH SEVER SERVICES BRANCH. $23,000. 5 5679. HEALTH ISERI, 569. DOES BLOOD DRAWING NOT DURING BUSINESS HOURS LOWER OVERTIME BUDGET OF $6.3 MILLION. SHPD -- HEALTH SERVICES, REVENUE SOURCES, WE GET $3.5 MILLION FROM THE STATE ANNUALLY.

AND THAT SALES FROM AGREEMENT WE MADE WITH THEM TO GET MONEY THAT IS CHARGED TO PEOPLE'S VEHICLE REGISTRATION. IT WAS FIVE DOLLARS CHARGE. TOOK OVER EMS FROM THE STATE. WE FELT THAT CARS ON OAHU THAT MONEY SHOULD BE KEPT ON OAHU SO THAT IS WHERE THAT COMES FROM. THIS REVENUE FROM BILLING WE HAD TO ESTIMATE THIS BACK IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR. AND WE ESTIMATED $42 MILLION FOR FY '26. THAT NUMBER ACTUALLY BE CLOSER TO, IT'S GOING TO BE HIGHER. GOING TO BE WITH THE 3.5, TOTAL COLLECTION FY '26 CLOSER TO $49 MILLION. WE ESTIMATED TOTAL COLLECTION FOR '27. AGAIN.

THAT 44 MILLION CAME FROM ESTIMATE BACK IN AUGUST. WHEN WE'RE PREPARING OUR BUDGET. BUT THAT NUMBER PLUS THE 3.5 SHOULD BE EXCESS OF $50 MILLION IN R REVENUES. WE HAVE SOME OTHER MISCELLANEOUS CHARGES FOR WHEN WE LEAST RECORDS. THAT WAS $14,000. CIP PROJECTS, THE HESD ADMINISTRATION AND CLEE STATION, $6.6 MILLION. KALIHI STATION. THAT'S FOR EMS HEADQUARTERS. SO WE CAN GET OUT OF THE AIRPORT OR PAYING $750,000 A YEAR IN RENT. ALSO HAVE PLANNED FACILITIES IMPROVEMENT IN OUR BUDGET FOR THAT. KALIHI EMS HEADQUARTERS. WE ALSO HAVE SOME EXTRA MONEY BUDGET FOR THE KAHUKU FACILITY, ALREADY BEEN AWARDED IN THE EVENT THAT WE JUST AS A CONTINGENCY, NEED EXTRA FUNDING FOR THAT. AND THEN SAME THING WITH THE WAIPIO AMBULANCE TRAINING FACILITY. SOME CONTINGENCY MONIES ALREADY BUDGETED ON TOP OF THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATE THE IN THE EVENT UNPERCEIVED COSTS. MAJOR AGAIN, REVIEW THE MARRIAGE FACILITIES FOR US IS EMS HEADQUARTERS IN KALIHI. KAHUKU AMBULANCE RENOVATION. AND THE WAIPIO TRAINING FACILITY. FOR EMS. AT THAT DONE CLOUDS THIS PART OF THE PRESENTATION. CONCLUDES. I'M AVAILABLE OUR TEAM IS VACATION RENTAL FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU VERY MUCH DIRECTOR IRELAND. START OFF RUINED R ROUND OF QUESTIONS WITH COMMITTEE VICE CHAIR NISHIMOTO. AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. Vice Chair Nishimoto: COUPLE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE CIP. SO THE 6.6 NOR THE KALIHI STATION, GNATS R THAT'S BLOOD BANK PROPERTY? Testifier: YES. AND, PUT IN $5.4 MILLION IN '24? SO THAT'S ABOUT 11 MILLION. IS THAT IT A ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY?

Testifier: MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT PREVIOUS FUNDING WAS WITH DLM. THAT MONEY LAPSED. SO I JUST DEFER TO THEM TO EXPLAIN HOW THAT HAPPENED. AND THIS IS REMEDY. Vice Chair Nishimoto: 5 HADN'T .4 WAS NOT SPENT. Testifier: CORRECT. 5.4. Vice Chair Nishimoto: 67.6 IS THE REMEDY. THAT'S ALL YOU NEED TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY? 6.6. Testifier:Y. Vice Chair Nishimoto: OKAY. AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE 150,000 IN THE BUDGET TO PROVIDE 24/7 SECURITY FOR THAT PROPERTY. WHY IS THAT NEEDED?

Testifier: THE AREA AND JUST PROTECT IT AS A ASSET FOR THE CITY, IF PART BECAUSE ADMINISTRATION AREA. SO WE WILL BE THERE DURING CITY HOURS. IT WILL BECOME AT LEAST HOME FOR ONE AMBULANCE POSSIBLY TWO. IN THE FUTURE. ONCE THERE'S 24-HOUR AMBULANCE OPERATIONS THERE, WE MAY NOT NEED THAT SECURITY. BUT WE PUT THAT IN THERE TO PROTECT THE PROPERTY IF THE TRANSITION THAT WE HAVEN'T MOVED IN YET FOR SURE. AND BUT ONGOING, WE MAY NOT NEED THAT. Vice Chair Nishimoto: WE BOUGHT PROPERTY A ALREADY? Testifier: NO. WE HAVE NOT.

Vice Chair Nishimoto: THE 6.6 IF APPROPRIATE WOULD BUY THE PROPERTY, AND THEN ONCE YOU ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY, YOU NEED THE 24-HOUR SECURITY THERE?

Testifier: CORRECT. OUR LEASE, MY UNDERSTANDINGERING AT THE AIRPORT RUNS OUT END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR. AND SO THE PLAN IS TO MOVE IN THERE THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER AND FALL, AND OUR WE DON'T KNOW NEW LEASE WILL BE AT THE AIR PORT. COULD BE EXCESS OF $800,000. INTERESTING WHEN I JOINED CITY, AS E. T AND DWREMS EMS IN '95, WE WERE AT THAT AIRPORT FACILITY. SO WE RENTED THAT AIRPORT FACILITY FOR OVER 30 YEARS. AND IT'S JURNLINGS WAY I THINK OF NUMBER ONE GETTING OUT OF THAT HIGH RENT. AND HAVING A PERMANENT PLACE FOR US. AIRPORT RIGHT NOW WE'RE ON 3 DIFFERENT FLOORS. AND ALL SPREAD OUT. THIS PUTS ALL IN ONE BUILDING. MUCH MORE EFFICIENT AN HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO ALSO HAVE TWO AMBULANCES HOUSED THERE.

Vice Chair Nishimoto: YOU HAVE 155,000 BUDGETED. FOR REPAIRS. WHAT EXACTLY IS THAT?

Testifier: FLOOR, OLDER BUILDING. NOT A SUPER-OLD BUILDING BUT OLDER BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE BILLING MAY -- BUILDING. YOU THINK REMEDIATION ASBESTOS TILES IN THERE, THERE'S UNDERGROUND FUEL TANK. AND ELEVATOR MAINTENANCE AND THAT SORT OF THING. THAT WE WANT TO MAKE IT UP TO STANDARD. PLANNING TO DO A RENNE VACATION AND REDESIGN AND MAKE IT MORE C CONDUCIVE TO NOT STORING BLOOD AND GIVING BLOOD. ACTUAL ADMINISTRATION BUILDING. MORE CON DEUCE I. MEETING WITH THE ARNGHT TEAM IT FROM U.H. AND REALLY GOOD ARCHITECTURE TEAM GOOD PLAN LAY OUT SUIT OUR NEEDS. FUTURE RAIL STATION FOR SKYLINE LUNGE A BLOCK AWAY. I BELIEVE. LIKE A BLOCK AWAY. I BELIEVE. GOOD FOR US, BUT IT'S GO NEIGHBORHOOD A LITTLE WORK BEFORE WE MOVE IN READY.

Vice Chair Nishimoto: THANK YOU. Chair Okimoto: I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THE CHAIR WATERS AND BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO CHAIR FINAL QUESTIONS, JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT INVITES CHAIR NISHIMOTO MENTIONED. WITH THE BUILDING MUCH THAT KALIHI PROPERTY, THAT WASN'T CONDEMNED YOU SAID THAT WE'RE PROCESS OF PURCHASING IT?

Testifier: SO I KNOW THERE WAS ISSUE IN THE PAST. WITH EASEMENT. THAT SKYLINE NEED. FOR A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. BUT IT'S GOING TO AFFECT EMS, HSD PURCHASING PROPERTY O MOVING IN. I DON'T THINK COND CONDEMNED INE PAST, SOME DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN THE OWNERS OF BLOOD BLOOD BANK D HART WHERE THAT EASEMENT GOES WAS GOING TO BE AFFECT THE BLOOD BANK OPERATION THE FOR US EMS PUT TWO A.M. CALABASASS MOVE IN THERE AS A AMBULANCES. IT WON'T AFFECT US.

Chair Okimoto: PORTION HAD THE EASEMENT THAT'S THE PART THAT POSSIBLY W WAS CONDEMN BUT NOT PORTION YOU'RE PURCHASING WITH THE 4.5, 6.6 MILLION, IS THAT WHAT I UNDERSTAND. Testifier: CORRECT. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYTHING WAS CONDEMNED I DO KNOW THAT PART OF THE ROADWAY AND WALKWAY NEYER THE BLOOD BANK WAS NEEDLED FOR SKYLINE. NEAR THE BLOOD BANK. Chair Okimoto: YOU'RE NEXT O 234 LINE. DO YOU WANT ME TO COME BACK TO YOU? THANK YOU. Councilmember Waters: THANK YOU SO MUCH THE GOOD MORNING DR. IRELAND. GENERALLY, LOOKS LIKE YOUR BUDGET IS UP $1.7 MILLION. IS THAT CORRECT? Testifer: LET ME LOOKMENT CHECK MY SLIDES.

Councilmember Waters: SALARIES UP 1.7.

Testifier: RIGHT. WELL, YES. WE ARE OPENING AN ADDITIONAL AMBULANCE THAT WAS NOT FUNDED IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET. AND THE OTHER ISSUE WE DID PUT $1.6 MILLION IN THE BUDGET. IT'S ON PAGE 10. ITEM CODE 1118. 1 POINT .OF $7 MILLION TO FUND THE EMS DIFFERENTIAL. 1.67. WE DID THIS YEAR PARAMEDICS YEMENTD AND DISPATCHERS DON'T HAVE STEP CHANGE IN SALARY LIKE THE OTHER FIRST RESPONDERS TO. EMT WE WANT TO GIVE THEM THAT THEY DESERVE IT. IT'S FOR LONGEVITY AND RETENTION. AND IS TO WE DID DO A EMS DIFFERENTIAL THAT INCREASED EVERYONE'S SALARY IN PAIR MET ITION DISPATCHERS AN EMTs ON ALTERNATE WORK SENATE DRAFT SCH. PARAMEDICS. 1.6 MILLION IS FOR THAT WATERS MUCH DESERVED I'D SAY. LOOKS LIKE ALSO, FOR INTERGOVEQUIPMENTYOU'RE DOW 1.7. 45% DOWN. YOU TOOK $1.7 MILLION CUT IN EQUIPMENT?

Testifier: ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE DONE OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS, BEEN VERY, VERY AGGRESSIVE IN MUCH PRINTING AMBULANCES. AND DOING THE REMOUNTS WE TAKE ESSENTIAL WILL HE GOOD AMBULANCE BOX, AND P OUT IT ON A BRAND NEW CHASSIS. ESSENTIALLY. WE'VE DONE SO WELL IN THE LAST THREE OR FOUR HE YEARS WE DIDN'T NEED TO ORDER AS MANY AMBULANCES THIS YEAR. FOR INSTANCE, SIT HERE TODAY, WE HAVE 22 AMBULANCE IN OUR FLEET. THAT ARE UNDER ONE-YEAR-OLD. AND WE'RE GETTING ITEN MORE REMOUNTAINS BACK THIS YEAR. WHICH WILL BRING UPS TO 32 AMBULANCES UNDER TWO YEARS OLD. AND FRONT LINE FLEET IS RIGHT NOW. 24 AMBULANCES TWO UP TO 26:00 A.M. BLAFNLSES BY THIS SUMMER. SO WITH 32 AMBULANCES, WE HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH TO COVER THE FRONT LINE AMBULANCE IT'S AND SOME BACK UP AMBULANCES. SO IN THIS BUDGET HERE, WE'RE ONLY REQUESTING FUNDING FORMBY 7 REMOUNTAINS TO JUST KIHAPAI KT COMPLETE MODERNIZE. DON'T NEED TO ORDER LIKE PREVIOUS YEARS. SIX BAND NEW PLUS TEN RAYA MOUNTAIN. NOT BRAND NEW. REMOUNTS. TRYING TO GET WHAT WITH NEED BUT NOT BE GET IN EXCESS OF WHAT WE NEED TO NATIVE HAWAIIAN E'O -- MAINTAIN THE BUDGET.

Councilmember Waters: ARE YOU ALSO DOWN TEN FTEs? IS THAT ACCURATE? Testifier: POINT ME TO THAT. I DON'T THINK WE ARE. BUT. Councilmember Waters: JUST CHECKING. AND THEN AS FAR AS LAPSED FUNDS ARE CONCERNED, MY RECORDS INDICATE THAT YOU LAPSED ABOUT 1.7. LAST FISCAL YEAR. FY '2025. Testifier: THINK IT WAS LESS THAN A MILLION WHEN ALL SAID AND DONE. BUT I CAN GET BACK DOWN THE EXACT AMOUNT.

Councilmember Waters: OKAY. WELL, GENERAL FUND WISE, LOOKS LIKE YOU GUYS DID PRETTY GOOD. ONLY LAPSED 100,000. FEDERAL GRANTS FUNDS, IT WAS ABOUT 1.6. Testifier: I'M NOT SURE. I'LL GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. WE DID HAVE SOME HUD FUNDING AND FEDERAL GRANT FUNDING FIVE YEAR GRANTS. I'M NOT SURE SOME OF THAT IS STILL IN PROCESS BUT I'LL MEET WITH YOU AFTER TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT YEARBOOK CONCERNED WITH AND GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. WHAT YEARNED WITH WATERS THANK YOU. WHAT YOU'RE CONCERNED WITH,.

Councilmember Cordero: THANK YOU. HI DIRECTOR AND DR. IRELAND. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR FOUR E'O YOUR PRESENTATION AND UPDATE. I DO WANT TO ALSO START OFF ARE WITH EQUIPMENT. BECAUSE I DO NOTE THAT ALONG WITH THE KALIHI UNIT THAT YOU'RE SHORING, UP AS WELL AS STAYED IN THE BUDGET BOOK, YOU HAVE THE KO OLINA UNIT WHERE PURCHASED EQUIPMENT. AND HAVE 16 POSITIONS. SO IT IS INTERESTING AND ACTUALLY MAY BE SUCCESS THAT YOU ARE 44.9% DOWN MEDICAL SERVICE. FOR EQUIPMENT THERE AND SO ACTUALLY BASICALLY ANSWERED ABOUT HOW YOU WERE ABLE TO O UTILIZE THE OLDER BOXES AND PUT IT ON THE CHASSIS. CAN'T STATE WORD. BUT HOW ABOUT OTHER TYPES OF EQUIPMENT. THAT HAS CERTAIN LIFE SPAN. ARE YOU BOTH PURCHASING THAT AND THEN BEING ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE TO THE NEW UNITS? GRATEFUL THAT WE'RE MOVING THE AIRPORT/KALIHI UNITS TO IN THE FUTURE, CLOSER TO CENTRALIZED AREAS. BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING IF HOW WE WERE ABLE TO O KEEP UP WITH THE LIFE SPAN OF EQUIPMENT. AND ACTUALLY ASKING OTHER DEPARTMENTS THIS AS WE.

Testifier: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER. OTHER BIG ITEM WE USE OBJECTLY IS VEHICLES SUVs. FOR OUR SUPERVISORS AND FOR OUR RAPID RESPONSE UNITS. AND LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, WE DID HAVE COUNCIL FOUR SUVs, AND THOSE ARE IN PROCUREMENT RIGHT NOW. THOSE FOUR SUVs WILL BE GOING TO EACH OF OUR FOUR DISTRICT CHIEFS. SUVs CURRENTLY USING WHICH WITH ARE ABOUT FIVE YEARS OLD, WILL THEN GO TO BE USED AS RAPID RESPONSE UNITS. OR BACK UP UNITS. I BELIEVE WE'RE ALSO PRECURING RIGHT NOW A 15 PASSENGER VAN FOR OUR TRAINING STAFF. TO TAKE T THE RECRUITS DIFFERENT TRAINING AGO TIFTEDS. THINK WE'RE GOOD BUT ALSO A VERY AWARE OF THE NEED TO MAINTAIN OTHER VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE R&D I. TRAINING ACTIVITIES.

Councilmember Cordero: AWESOME. WITHIN THE VEHICLES THERE ARE KNOWS DIFFERENT CONTRAPTIONS. INSTRUCT OUTERS -- SPHRECHERS AND EVERYTHING THAT-STRETCHERS FOREL NEEDED TO TR TRANSPORT PEOPLE SERVICED PICK YOU BY THE AMBULATORY SERVICE. INCLUDED IN A BILL BEING FUND OF EQUIPMENT?

Testifier: RIGHT. BULK FUND VERY FORNTD ON THE COURT SIDE, FORTUNATE COURTSIDE, THREE AMBULANCE IN COURT R RIGHT NOW P ARE FOUR AMBULANCES IN ABOUT A YEAR OLD. C CORE. THREE MERCEDES RADE VANIC. WE ALSO HAVE R VA IN. SF45450 CHASSIS. FROM EMS. WHEELCHAIR CORE. AUS THAT VAN DON'T NEED AN AMBULANCE. THEN NUMBER OF SUVs, BOTH BRAND NEW AND PAST HAND ME GREDOWNSFROM EMS. WE DO HAVE AMBULANCE BUS. TWO YEARS OLD AND EX COMMAND TRUCK USER. MASS TRAGEDY UNTS INCIDENT LARGE NUMBER PEOPLE. RAIN COMING UP, HAVE TO VACCINE BAIT EVACUATE PEOPLE,-EVACUATE PEOPLE, MOVE PEOPLE USE THE AMBULANCE BUS.

Councilmember Cordero: ONLY HAVE ONE AMBULANCE BUS? IS THAT. Testifier: WITH VERY ANY TWO YEARS OLD AMBULANCE BUS. HOLD 18 PASSENGERS. LINE LYING FLAT AND THEN WE HAVE EXCITY BUS THAT WAS OR AMBULANCE BUS CURRENTLY WE CALLED IT CORE BUS. IT'S BEEN REPURPOSED FOR CORE. FOR EVACUATIONS AND TRANSPORT. BUT AT THAT CORE BUS IS NOT LICENSED AS AMBULANCE THE MORE PEOPLE TRANSPORTER. Councilmember Cordero: I UNDERSTAND. PEEK OF CORE S SPEAK OF CORE, DT REMEMBER WHEN IT CLAIGD. USED TO BE -- CHANGED USED TO BE UNDER EMERGENCY M MEDICAL SERVICE BRANCH. WAS IF UNDER THAT.

Testifier: PART OF SPECIALIZED COMMUNITIES MEDICINE STILL IN. ADMINISTRATION. BUT OUR PLAN IN THE NEXT, SIX TO 12 MONTHS IS TO UNDER GO REORGANIZATION SO WE CAN SEPARATE OUT CORE FROM COMMUNITY MEDICINE AND EMS. ULTIMATELY, I THINK WHERE WE'RE HEADED IS TO BE EMS AS A DEPARTMENT. EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES SIMILAR TO OA OCEAN SAFETY DOWN THE ROAD. I BELIEVE CORE WILL EVENT I WILL BE ITS OWN BRANCH OR DIVISION. FOR NOW PART OF ADMINISTRATION CORDRD COULD WITH THAT EMERGENCY MAKING EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICE A DEPARTMENT, WOULD ALLOW FOR CORE TO STILL BE FOCUS OF I GUESS THE EMERGENCY SERVICES DEPARTMENT? LIKE SEPARATELY.

Testifier: RIGHT. SO IT WOULD BE A PIECE OF EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICE FOCUSING IN ON PEOPLE IN CRISIS, HOMELESS, PEOPLE WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES MAY OR MAY NOT BE HOMELESS. THEY'RE CALLED DIFFERENT THINGS IN DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS. SO MAINLAND. SOMETIME THEY CAN JUST CALL IT THE RAPID RESPONSE TEAM. OR THE CRISIS TEAM. BUT WE WANT TO POUR FULLY INTEGRATE THEM WITH EMS WITHIN THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICE DEPARTMENT.

Councilmember Cordero: THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT YOUR CONTRACTS SERVICES IN OR JUST CONTRACTS IN GENERAL? I KNOW YOU MENTIONED H4. DOES THAT CONTRACT SERVICES OR CONSULTANT, CONTRACT SERVICE AND FUNDING COME FROM YOUR DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET? OR WILL THAT BE COMING FROM DCS?

Testifier: SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MEDICAL SERVICES UNDER THE CHARTER APPARENTLY NEED TO COME THROUGH OUR DEPARTMENT AS THE MEDICAL DEPARTMENT. VERSUS DC. IS WHICH HAS THE MOST EXAMPLE ER PER TEASE WITH THIS. WE -- EXPERTISE. HAVE BEEN DOING MONEY COMES FROM THE STATE TO FUND THESE TYPE OF ACTIVITIES WE'VE BEEN COLLABORATE HAVING HE CLOSELY WITH DCS TO MANAGE THE FUNDING AND MANAGE THESE CONTRACTS. HISTORICALLY ALL BEEN STATE FUNDED. BUT ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. OTHER PART OF THIS THAT INVOLVES CITY IS THESE MEDICAL RESPITES ALL MEDICAL RESPITE CITY OWNED BUILDING. HPOWEREL PUNAWAI REST STOP THAT BUILDING CITY OWNED. LEAHI RESPITE IS IN OBVIOUSLY STATE OWNED FACILITY. BUT WE HAVE CITY RESPITE THERE AND WHEN THIS BUDGET WE'RE PROPOSING PO FINANCIALLY FUNDING PART OF THAT WITH CITY FUNDS.

Councilmember Cordero: DIDN'T COME FROM YOUR BUGMENT NORMALLY FILTER THROUGH, WAS IT DCS? Testifier: BUDGET I THINK IT CAME THROUGHS THROUGH US THROUGH F FEDERAL MOIRCHLT THAT HAS MONDAY. HARDER TO GET, WE'RE CAN GO STATE TO COME MORE FROM THE STATE. FEDERAL MONEY. MAY COME FROM FEDERAL FUNDING WE HAVE TO OUR BRYAN CARVALHO ABOUT $9 MILLION, COULD YOU COFS FUNDING TO, MEDICAL DAL RESPITE AND WE'RE USING HALF OF TO RENOVATE A LARGE SPACE THAT LEAHEY HOSPITAL FOR MEDICAL RESPITE. OTHER HALF STILL LOOKING TO PURCHASE SOMETHING IN THE COMMUNITY FOR MEDICAL RESPITE.

Councilmember Cordero: THANK YOU. FOR CLARIFICATION, IS THIS $150,000 A YEAR FOR AIR PETRAIRPORT ORA MONTH. Testifier: A YEAR. APPROXIMATE WILL. WE HAVEN'T SEEN WHAT WOULD BE A NEW LEASE I'M SURE IT'S GOING TO BE HIGHER. Councilmember Cordero: THANK YOU. I JUST HAD A QUESTION MARK THERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CLARIFICATION AND THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER OKIMOTO.

Councilmember Tupola: ALOHA THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU FOR INTRODUCE THEM. I THINK COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO FOR HER THOUGHTFUL QUESTIONS ABOUT CORE. FOLLOW UP WITH THE FEW OF THOSE. IN SEPTEMBER, AUDIT WILL BE COMPLETED AND I WANTED TO KNOW IF WE COULD WORK TOGETHER ON JUST I HEAR WHAT ARRA SAYING ABOUT KIND OF A ADJUSTMENT THAT IS YOU'RE MAKE. LIKE A LOT OF IDEAS THAT YOU SHARED WITH ME. WHEN WE MET. I THINK AS WE THOUGHTFULLY MOVED FORWARD, HOPING THAT THE AUDIT WILL GIBBOUS SOME GUIDANCE ON THAT. I WANTED TO JUST ASK IF WE COULD WORK TOGETHER AND HOW THAT MIGHT BE I AM FLEMING IMPLEMENTED IN KONA JUNCTION WITH SOME OF THE DID-CON DESCRUNGS U JUNCTION SUGGESTIONS YOU HAVE COMMISSION AND EXPANSION. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? WILL GIVE US U LOOK FORWARD TO AUDIT FIELGT U FINDINGS AS WELLMENT LANDSCAPE OF CORE IS CHANGING. PRIMARILY BECAUSE ACT 219 LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THROUGH THE DOH, GIVES NOW THE POWER TO DO WHAT'S CALLED M H-3, INVOLUME VOLUNTARY HOLD FOR PEOPLE ARE A DAGGER TO THEMSELVES AND OTHERS. THAT IS CHANGED THE WAY CORA APPROACHES FOLKS WHO ARE DAGGER TO STHECHS OR OTHERS. THEMSELVES. TOOL HELPED US GET TO A LOT OF PEOPLE RESIST TAN. BECAUSE MENTAL ILLNESS OR SUBSTANCE ABUSE TO GETTING HAPPY H.E.L.P. RESISTANT WE KNOW -- GETTING HELP. EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT HAS A UNIQUE SET OF ISSUES WITH EXPECT TO HOMELESS AND THE HOUSELESS POPULATION AN UNIQUE SOLUTION. HE ACTUALLY FORWARD TO, FINDING AND PARTNERING WITH ALL OF THOSE TIER 1 AREAS IN THOSE UNITS SOLUTIONS. DIFFERENT AREAS. ALWAYS KNOW, WORKS MIGHT WORK DOWNTOWN, DOESN'T NECESSARILY WORK OTHER PARTS OF ISLAND. WE RESPECT TO CORE. WITH RESPECT TO OUR VISION, WE THE LAST TWO YEARS, REALLY FOCUSED ON OCEAN SAFETY, BECOMING DEPARTMENT. TBLZ ALWAYS SOME SHORT TERM HURDLES BECAUSE OF REORGANIZATION AND CULTURE AND GETTING USED TO BEING YOUR OWN

DEPARTMENT. I REALLY FEEL WHEN WE LOOK FAST FORWARD FIVE OR CONTINUE IT YEAR, IT WILL BE BEST DECISION WE EVER MADE FOR THEM. AND SO I H I SEE THE SAME AND T SAME MOORE EMERGENCY SERVICE. ACHIEVER OF EMS INSTRED STED OF DRECIALGHTD. CHIEF OF YEMENTS OR INSTEAD OF DIRECTOR. CURRENT CHIEF REI 'ALLOCATE TO CHIEF STRUCTURE SIMILAR TO FIRE POLICE AND EMS ALTHOUGH ADMINISTRATION IS TAKEN NO POSITION ON THIS, WE SHOULD AT LEAST DISCUSS YE YE EMS COMMISS. HE DIRECTION OF FIRST RESPONDER AGENCY IT'S TO STAY WITH COMMISSIONS ARER THEN IN THE EMS SHOULD BE SAME. IF IT'S NOT, THEN WE CAN RETALK ABOUT THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK OVER THE NEXT 2 YEARS, WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT FOR SURE.

Councilmember Tupola: PERFECT. CAME BACK TO THAT. LAST QUESTION ABOUT CORE, ADMINISTRATION YOU HAVE 30 FTE, HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE MEMBERS OF CORE? I KNOW SOME ARE ADMIN POSITIONS AND SOME ARE CORE. WHAT IS YOUR CURRENT COUNT.

Testifier: COREY BELIEVE 32 PEOPLE ONBOARDING 2 OR 3 MORE. AROUND 35 PEOPLE. LONGLONG-TERM GOAL FOUND OUT WHT THE RIGHT SIZE SIZE FOR CORE ISERS SLOWLY OVER THE NEXT 2 TO 3 YEARS, CONVERT BAY WE CONSIDER ESSENTIAL TO SEVERAL SERVICE. BECAUSE WE WANT PEOPLE TO STAY IN COURT, PASSIONATE, REALLY GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO, NOT REALISTIC OR FAIR TO JUST PERPETUALLY KEEP THEM CONTRACTED POSITION. SLOWLY LIKE TO CONVERT SOME OR ALL OF THOSE TO CIVIL SERVICE WHEN WE FIND OUT WHAT THE RIGHT SIZE FOR CORE IS. WHETHER IT'S 20 PEOPLE, 30 PEOPLE. 40 PEOPLE RM WHAT HAVE YOU, WE ESSENTIALLY WANT TO DONE VETERAN ALL OF THOSE -- CONVERTS ALL OF THOSE. CAN TUPOLA ADMIN 48 FTEs OF THE 35 OF THE 48 ARE CORE.

Testifier: CURRENTLY YES. WE ALSO HAVE 44 APPROVED FOR CO. 335 FILLED TUPOLA UNDERSTOOD. SOME OF THIS AUDITION OR AS LOOK AT YOUR BUDGET, REALLY FILLING THE SHOES OF TAKING OVER THE STATE SIDE AND KIND OF REALLY DOING SERVICE THAT IS WE'RE POSED TO GO. FOR SERVE VISIT COMMUNITY THANK YOU FOR THAT. SILENTLY CELEBRATEING OUR KO OLINA, EMERGENCY SERVICE UNITMENT AND LOOKING FORWARD TO, TBHUNS FOR ALL OF THE AREAS THAT YOU MENTIONED. ON THE PAGE OUTLINING ARE OF KNEW FROM BILLING, IT SAYS 44 MILLION. I'M PRETTY SURE ALL OF US MET WITH DING DIGITAL DIGITAL TECH D EMS HC. MET WITH BOTH OF THEM. TAKE COPIOUS NOTES WHAT THEY SAID. SOME OF TELL SAID WE SHOULD BE BILLING MORE AROUND 51 MILLION. I DON'T KNOW. WHAT WE SHOULD BE BILLING AT. I KNOW THINGS ARE GETTING BETTER. THEY SHOWED OVER YEARS. AFTER WHICH TOOK OVER FROM THE STATE THAT WE KIND LIKE CAUGHT OUR FOOTING. WE ARE YOUR THOUGHTS AND WHERE OUR BILLING SHOULD BE? ACTUALLY BILLING FOR IT UPCOMING BUDGET YEAR IS IN ADDITION TO 3.5 MILLION, GET IN THE STATE, WILL BE EXCESS OF 50 MILLION. THAT'S ONE THING. THERE ARE A FEW OTHER ABERCROMBIE THAT IS COULD ENHANCE REVENUE. ONE WOULD BE TO INITIATE TREAT, NO TRANSPORT. THE ADMINISTRATIVE RULES DOH, SUNSETTED ON THOSE THAT FUNDING STRUCTURE. SO WE CAN NO LONGER USE THAT FUNDING STRUCTURE. SO WE WOULD NEED TO COME THROUGH COUNCIL. IF WE WANTED TO PROPOSE FEE FOR NO TRANSPORT. THAT WOULD BE FOR INSTANCE SOMEONE GOT IN A CAR ACCIDENT WE MAYBE GAVE THEM SOME BANDAGES. PUT THEIR ARM NAY SLING. BUT DID NOT GO TO THE HOSPITAL. FLIGHT THOSE SERVICES ARE FREE. TREAT NO TRA TRANSPORT GET A BIL FOR THAT. OTHER FUNDING KNOW FROM PREVIOUS INTRAU INTERACTIONS

STATE YOU CHANGED THE WAY THEY COLLECT FOR RULE MEDICAID. PERHAPS MORE MONEY COULD COME IN THE CITY GENERAL FUND FOR THAT. SO THERE ARE A FEW OTHERWISE WAYS WE CAN PERHAPS GENERATE ADDITIONAL CONSERVATIVELY 3 MILLION SHY END, MAYBE THE MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. HIGH END. ALWAYS CONCERNED TOO, THAT THE PEOPLE WHO GET THE AMBULANCE BILL, HAVE THE ABILITY TO PAY. AND WE NEVER WANT I NEVER WANT ANYONE TO MISS FEEDING CHILDREN OR PAYING RENT BECAUSE OF HIGH AMBULANCE BILL. SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME AS WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE AVENUE FOR FORGIVENESS OR LOCAL RESIDENTS MAY HAVE TROUBLE PAYING THEIR BILL. HAVE SOME OF THOSE CASES AND WORK ON THEM ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS. THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT BILLING FOR OTHER THING. WE DON'T TRADITIONALLY BILL FOR. OR INCREASING THE ACTUAL CHARGE. BECAUSE WE FOLLOW THE STATE GUIDELINES AND RATE. BUT IT DOES INCREASE UNDER ADMINISTRATIVE RULE BY UP TO 10% A YEAR. BY THE DIRECTOR OF HEALTH. AND WE FOLLOW THAT. BUT IF WE WERE TO DEVIATE FROM THAT WE WOULD NEED TO COME TO COUNCIL.

Councilmember Tupola: THANK YOU FOR SPECIFICITY. DEFINITELY WE DEBT WANT TO OVERCHARGE PEOPLE. I THINK WHEN BOTH COMPANIES MET WITH ME PARTICULARLY, THEY WERE TRYING TO MAKE AN EMPHASIS ON POSSIBLE LOST OPPORTUNITIES. DON'T WANT TO OVER CARJACK CHCHARGE PEOPLE. HEALTH SERVICE 13.25 PERMANENT -- OVERCHARGE. THREE CONTRACT. WHAT IS THE HEALTH SERVICES BRANCH DO IN SHORT,.

Testifier: BASICALLY OBJECTING PALAS -- OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH CLINIC. IF ICESLY STATE FRANCIS LILIHA BUILDING. DO ALL THE NEW EMPLOYMENT, PHYSICALS, DO ALL THE ONGOING PHYSICALs FOR PEOPLE WHO OPERATE, LARGE TRUCKS. FOR THEIR CDL DRIVER'S LICENSE. ALL FIRST RESPONDER PLITSZ, FIRE AND EMS.

POLICE. OCEAN SAFETY NEED PERIODIC FISCALS TO MAINTAIN READINESS, PHYSICALS, HEALTH SERVICE DO ALL OF THEIR PHYSICALs. WE MONITOR CITY DRUG F TESTING DO ALL THE DUI ESTATE SETSING ENTIRE STATE, TESTING ENTIRE STATE. IMPAIRED DIVER DRIVERS DO BLOOD DRAW AND TESTIFY IN COURT AS FOOD FINDINGS AS WELL AS DO THE FUEL TEST EFFECTIVE T. AAS BLOOD FINDINGS. Chair Okimoto: FLOOR LEADER.

Councilmember Kia'aina: NG THANK YOU. DIRECT, I KNOW WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GET SOME CLARITY. WITH REGARD TO THE FUNDS THAT I PUT IT IN THE LAST FISCAL YEAR. WITH REGARD TO MAUNA LOA SUBSTATION. EL MOUNTAIN WIVMENT OVER $700,000. MAUNAWILI I WHILE DUI UNDERSTAND, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT, THE EFFORT TO, LOCATE TO HPU, FELL THROUGH AND I SAD TO HEAR THAT. BECAUSE I THOUGHT THERE WAS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY THERE. I WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE WERE WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THOSE FUNDS. ARE THERE OWL INTERN IT ALTERNATIVE AREAS THAT YOU COULD UTILIZE BECAUSE THIS WAS NOT FOR STRUCTURE. IT WAS FOREL EMPLOYEES. DO YOU FOR SEE ANY OPPORTUNITIES BEFORE THE ENDING OF THE YEAR SO THOSE FUNDS DON'T LAPSE?

Testifier: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER FOR THAT QUESTION. WE DID HAVE KAIMUKI AMBULANCE IN OUR BUDGET. LAST YEAR. MAYOR'S BUDGET. THEN WE DID GET THREE COUNCIL ADDED AMBULANCES. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AT THIS TIME THAT KO OLINA FUNDS HAVE BEEN OR ARE BEING RELEASED. SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO OPEN UP THE KO OLINA AMBULANCE. AMBULANCE FOR MOUNTAIN WUL WILL HE AND SHALL MOUNTAIN WUL I AND MOU MAUNAWILI NOT AT LEASD YES. DEPENDS ON THOSE FUNDS GETTING RELEASED FOR THIS YEAR AND PARTIALLY ON STAFFING AND HAVING THE NUMBER PEOPLE TO OPEN THEM. RESPECT TO WHERE WE COULD GO, YOU CR CORRECT THAT'S STATE AND CITY NO LONGER INTERESTED IN PURCHASING, THE PRIOR PREVIOUS HPU CAMPUS. BUT IF WE WERE TO PUT AN AMBULANCE IN THAT AREA, ABOUT 14 YEARS AGO, WE HAD THE SAME DILEMMA IN EWA BEACH. AND WE HAD EMPTY PRO SHOP ONE OF THE GOLF COURSES CITY ON THE GOLF COURSE, AND AMBULANCES BEEN IN THE PRO IS SHOP FOR 14 YEARS. EWA BEACH, SER EFFECTIVE THURSDY SED THAT COMMUNITY 24 -- SERVED THAT COMMUNITY. 24 HOURS. FANTASTIC. POTENTIAL SHIEWTIONS IN THAT AREA SOLUTIONS ACROSS THAT HPU CAMPUS CITY GOLF COURSE.

Councilmember Kia'aina: HAVE YOU GONE TO THE PALI GO BEING TO LOOK AT THE CONDITIONS OF THE STRUCTURES THERE AND MAYBE BEEN IN DIALOGUE WIT WITH THE CITY DIRECTOR DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR ENTERPRISE SERVICES? Testifier: MEMBERS OF MY TEAM HAVE. I HAVEN'T PERSONALLY. RIGHT NOW USED AS OCCASIONAL CONFERENCE LO ROOM. HAD SUPERFICIAL CONVERSATIONS WITH DIRECTOR OF ERCHT PRICE SERVICE. ABOUT THIS. AND ENTERPRISE. JUST LEAVING IT AT THAT FOR NOW. WE HAVE HAD SOME SUPERFICIAL CONVERSATIONS.

Councilmember Kia'aina: HE WANTED TO ENCOURAGE FURTHER EXPLORATION BECAUSE I DO KNOW THAT ALL OF THE ISLAND NEEDS MORE SUBSTATIONS. BUT ALL I WOULD SAY IS LOCATION, LOW CASE, LOCATION. LOCATION. AND MAUNAWILI WOULD HELP TO NOT JUST STRENGTHEN YOUR CAPACITY FOR THE WINDWARD SIDE. BUT RIGHT THERE BY PALI, BE ABLE TO BACK UP HONOLULU.

Testifier: CORRECT THANK YOU. KIA'AINA CON MY SECOND QUESTION HAS TO WITH JUST BIG PICTURES. WE TALK ABOUT HOUSING IT ALL INCAN COME LEVELS, INCOME LEVELS. BOTH AFFORDABLE AND HOUSING IN GENERAL, WE ALWAYS FORGET ABOUT HOUSING FOR OUR HOMELESS COMMUNITY. WITH REGARD TO INCREASING NEW NUMBER OF BEDS IN MY DISCUSSION WITH DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICE, OPERATION SEEMS TO BE A CHALLENGE IN OTHER WORDS, EVEN IF WE WERE TO GET BEDS, IT WOULD BE HARD BECAUSE THEN YOU WOULD NEED THE OPERATIONAL COSTS. SO CAN I GET YOUR TAKE ON WHAT SEEMS TO BE THE IMPEDIMENT. BECAUSE PART OF REASONS YOU ARE GETTING PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THE STREETS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANYPLACE TO FOR. GO. I'M WONDERING WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE IS THE MAJOR IMPEDIMENT AND HOW CAN WE IMPROVE THAT.

Testifier: THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. COMPLEX I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME HERE TO DISCUSS THIS. WHAT I WILL SAY IS GOVERNOR PLAN TO OPEN MORE KAUHALE SERVES ONE ROLE. THAFNED SERVE IT'S A LOYAL ROAM MORE. A ROLE. PEOPLE HAVE FINANCIAL CHALLENGE GET IN PERMANENT HOUSING O APARTMENT OR SUBSIDIZEs HOUSING. FOR US IN COURT R ON THE STREETS, IN C CORE. LIVING IN KAUHALE ALL GRAY THAT I GRAY. WAY BETTER THAN THE STREETS. NOT APARTMENT IT'S NOT A HOUSE. IT IS GREAT. BETTER THAN, IF THE PARK OR COMPLETELY JUST ON THE SIDEWALK. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BEDS WITH PEOPLE SIGNIFICANT MENTAL ILLNESS. THEY NEED ONE TO THREE MONTHS IN OBSERVED SETTING TREATMENT SETTING, TO GET THEIR MENTAL ILLNESS STABILIZED THROUGH MEDICATION, A LOT THEM HAVE PTSD AND TRAUMA NG ON THE STREET.

WE FINDING PEOPLE WITH, HEAD INJURIES AND TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURIES FROM BEING ASSAULTED ON STREETS. JUST FALLING DOWN BECAUSE THEY'RE IMPAIRED. SO THE CORE TEAM NOW WITH THE M H-3 IS A TOOL HELP THOSE ARE DAGGER TO THEMSELVES. ABLE TO GET THOSE FOLKS, DANGER. OFF STREETS FOR INVOLUNTARY TRANSPORT FOR 34-7B8G VALUATION. FOR EMERGENCY VALUATION. DONE OVER 30 M H-3'S NOW SINCE STARTED PILOT IN LATE DECEMBER. ABOUT A THIRD THOSE ARE PERMANENTLY OFF THE STREETS NOW. ABOUT 11 OUT OF 30. WHICH IS ENCOURAGEING. BUT TO BE CONTINUED TO HAVE SUCCESS, WITH HELPING THOSE WITH SIGNIFICANT DANGER TO THEMSELVES OR OTHERS, WE'RE GOING TO NEED MORE SPACE, MORE MEMENTAL HEALTH BED. STATE HOSPITAL IS OVER CAPACITY. SO THAT RIGHT NOW IS NOT AN ISSUE. WE HAVE OTHER FACILITIES ON IT ISLAND KAHE MAS MOSESE HALA NO T AT. KAHI MOHALA. SITTER O STATE PARTNER WITH PRIVATE ENTITY LIKE QUEEN'S USE CYST U EXISTING SAFE A FATALITIES IS WITH PEOPLE MENTAL ILLNESS SPEND 10 OR $20 MILLION BUILDING SOMETHING FROM THE GROUND. OR POTENTIALLY SENDING PEOPLE, TO FACILITIES ON MAINLAND. WHICH WOULD BE TOUGHER FOR LOCAL PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TIES HERE. AND COST WITH THAT. BUT TO'S YOUR QUESTION, IT'S THE SEVERELY MENTALLY ILL THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON.

Councilmember Kia'aina: GOOD POINT. IN THAT VEIN, TO YOU HAVE SUFFICIENT FUNDING FOR YOUR M H-3 PROGRAM SECOND, I GUESS GETTING DOWN TO THE YOU CAN'T JUST TAKE THEM HAVE TO TAKE THEM SOMEWHERE. AND I GUESS I ENCOURAGE YOU TO FIGURE OUT AND OVERALL STRATEGY WITH THE STATE. AND THE BIG PLAYERS IN HEALTH TO FIGURE FIGURE AT THAT OUT TT FUNDING IN PLACES WHERE WE WOULD HAVE ACTUAL BEDS FOR YOU TO GO TO.

Testifier: APPRECIATE THAT COUNCILMEMBER. AND ROIT NOW, ABOUT HALF OF OUR RIGHT NOW. ABOUT HALF OF OUR M H-3 PATIENTS GOTTEN BEHAVIOR HEALTH CRISIS CENTER. ROUGHLY THE OTHER HALF HAVE GONE ROUGHLY TO EITHER CASTLE OR QUEEN'S. CORE IS NOW GETTING VERY GOOD AT A FINDING PEOPLE DANGER TO HELP SEFS OR OTHERS. WORK IN THEMSELVES WAS WORK IN CLOSE PARTNERSHIP WITH HAD HAD AND SHERIFF IT'S DEPARTMENT. ESPECIALLY ASSIGNED OFFERS TRAINED OFFERS WORK WITH US. REALLY GOOD PROGRAM. OFFICER. FACE COVER FUND TO GO GET TO THE FIRST TIER, WE HAVE IF YOU HAVE U ENOUGH FUND MUCH WHERE THEY GO CASTLE CAREENS AND VMPLET HCC, CASTLE QUEEN'S, IS BIGGEST ISSUE NEED TO TACKLE RIGHT NOW. KIA'AINA I DID WANT TO BRING UP BUS STOPS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR KOKUA IN KAILUA. HAPPENING ALL OVER OAHU. BUT THIS IS KIND OF RELATED THIS THAT OUR BUS STOPS FOR EVERY DAY RIDERS TRYING TO GET TO WORK, ARE BEING OVERTAKEN. BY MANY OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD FALL UNDER YOUR M H-3 PROGRAM. AND I THINK IT'S BECOMING A INCREASING PROBLEM. NEEDS TO BE PART OF STRATEGY BECAUSE THEY'RE IMPACT UING EVERY DAY CITIZENS TRYING TO GET TO WORK OR APPOINTMENTS. WE NEED TO PROVIDE SAFE PLACE FOR THOSE RIDERS.

Testifier: I AGREE. AND PEOPLE DESERVE TO FEEL SAFE IN THEI COMMUNITIES PARKS S STOPS, ONE OF THE INSTRUCTIONS GIVEN TO CORE, IS IF YOU SEE SOMEONE BUS STOP, LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE THAT CRISIS LIVING AT THE BUS STOP, STOP AND HAVE A TALK WITH THEM. A LOT OF THOSE FOLKS WILL TWO AND LEAVE BUS STOP VOLUNTARILY WHEN WE OFFER THEM DIFFERENT SERVICES THAT WE FOR INSTANCE HONU, ONE OF THE MEDICAL RESPITES. BUT IF THEY WERE DANGER TO THEMSELVES OTHERS WE CAN USE THE TOOL OF THE M H-3. AND THAN WE HAVE TO TAKE THEM TO EITHER QUEEN'S, CASTLE ANOTHER TESS INTERGOVERNMENTAL NAITDED FACILITY. SUCH AS BEHAVIORAL CRISIS CENTER. ANOTHER FACILITY. CONTACTING DFM AFTERWARDS TO POWER WASH IT'S BECAUSE WE KNOW PEOPLE, SOMETIMES ARE ALSO USING BUS STOPS FOR TIER RUBBISH AND GO TO THE BATHROOM THERE TOO. TRY TO POWER WASH IF DFM BEEN A GOOD PARTNER WITH THAT. PEER WE'RE SPES. LY LOOK FOR PEOPLE IN CRISIS AT A B BUS STOP ST STOPS TO YOUR POINT. SPECIFICALLY LOOKING FOR. KIA'AINA THANK YOU FOR YOUR GOOD WORK.

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Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE SOME OF THE COMMENTS ABOUT WHERE PEOPLE GO AFTER THE HOSPITAL. LATER TODAY. BE HERING FROM DHLM HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT TRANSITIONAL HOUSING. HEARING FROM. SOME OF THE, OPPORTUNITIES FOR THINGS LIKE SAGE SEUJEL ROOM OCCUPANCY. SO CIRCLE ROOM. MENTION CORE ARER HAS BISSEN TRANSFORMATIONALMENT FOR CHINATOWN DOWNTOWN AND IWILEI. HAS BEEN, HOPE WE'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND THAT O OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS ALSO DESERVE, THAT SORT OF THRANS FORMATION TO GET SOME OF THESE FOLKS OFF THE STREET. ONE QUESTION UNRELATED. THAT IS CAN, REGARDING BLOOD BANK FACILITY, WILL EMS BE OCCUPYING ENTIRETY OF THE BUILDING OR WILL THERE BE REMAINING SORT OF EMPTY OFFICE SPACE?

Testifier: THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. EMS ADMINISTRATION WILL BE OCCUPYING ENTIRETY OPERATION. EXCUSE ME. BUILDING. WITH THE EXCEPTION WE'RE GOING TO DO A CARVE OUT OF THE BUILDING FOR ONE OR TWO A.M. BLAFNSES. SO A A A AMBULANCE. KAHEKILI AMBULANCE BASED THERE, SALT LAKE MAY BE ANSWER R HE BASED THERE. TAKE WHOLE BUILDING PART OF THIS MIGHT BE OPERATIONAL AMBULANCE IS NOT EXPRUS JUST ADMINISTRATION,. Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: WHAT HAPPENS TO EXISTING ADMINISTRATIVE SPACES DO WE HAVE A PLAN TORE THAT.

Testifier: EVERYTHING AT THE AIRPORT WEREN'T TURNED BACK OVER TO THE LANDLORD AND WAHINE WANTS MORE SPACE. WHAT'S INTERESTING IS WAHINE WHAWAIIANWANTS MORE SPACE. FIRE FOSTER PARENT HEADQUARTERS IN 24R5 BUILDING TOO IN THE 90s. LOOK WHAT THEY GOT. Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: THANK YOU. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER DOS SANTOS-TAM. THANK YOU WEYER ARE YOUR,.

Councilmember Weyer: MAHALO DR. IRELAND AND TO YOUR ENTIRE TEAM. REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR WORK LEAN INTO. MENT PROVIDE EXPANDED AND MAYBE POST SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. WANTED TO KIND OF CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION WITH CORE. I DO THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES THERE. FIRST COULD YOU JUST KIND OF MORE BROADLY WALK THROUGH THE DATA. YOU SAID 30. MH , STEP BACK IN TERMS OF GENERAL NUMBER OF FOLKS IN ENGAGED WITH GENERALLY WHERE THEY END UP. M H-3. PARTICULARLY GEOGRAPHICALLY AROUND OAHU. YOU WERE MENTIONING NEED POUR BED SPACE. PART OF CONVERSATION. JUST KIND OF CURIOUS. COMMUNITY ALWAYS CANCELING THAT. ASKING THAT. OF COURSE, KIND OF WHAT THE PATHWAY IN TERMS OF NUMBER OF BED FACE IS AND IF YOU HAVE INSIGHT INTO WHERE THOSE SHOULD BE. I THINK THAT IS WELCOME AS HE WILL WELL.

Testifier: SURE. BED PARTICIPATES. THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. BED SPACE. PRIOR TO THE M. 43 TOOL, CORE BO ENGAGE 20, 30 MEMORY A DAY AND, 2 OR 3 WOULD TAKE THEM UP THEIR OFFER FOR SHELTER. A LOT OF TIMES THAT WAS IHS SOMETIMES HONU. WHICH WAS GREAT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO TOOK US P O UP ON THAT. BUT WOG IN SHELTER WALK IN SHELTERS CAN'T NECESSARILY TAKE PEOPLE WHO HAVE LARGE WOUNDS, UNTREATED MENTAL ILLNESS, WHO HAVE SIGNIFICANT DIBS ABETS SUCH AS DISABILITIES SUCH AT PREVIOUS STROKES DIALYSIS CATHETERS, SO THAT WAS A CHALLENGE. THAT IS WHY WE OPENED UP MEDICAL RESPITE. TO TAKE THOSE PEOPLE WITH THOSE SIGNIFICANT MEDICAL ISSUES AND SO CORE NOW CAN TAKE PEOPLE TO LEASES LIKE HONU, PLACES LIKE HA'INA HAHAIONE USE MEDICAL RESPITES. HONU. THAT IS WORKING MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OPENING UP, SECOND HONU. PERHAPS IN WAIPAHU. WHAT WHERE THINK CORE WOULD BEST SUIT CORE. AND SO THAT'S A GREAT AVENUE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE SEE NGLY ABLE-BODIED DOWN ON THEIR LUCK. MAYBE JUST HERE KIND OF NEW AND WE NEED TO MAYBE GET THEM 'PARTICULAR. GUY IN CHINATOWN EX-RIGHT NOW, A TICKET. ALCOHOLIC, PLEASE JUST GET ME A TICKET TO SAT SEATTLE. HE'S FROM CARATEL. AND HOMELESS. FROM SEATTLE. BETHEL AND HOTELMENT WE'RE GOING TO WORK THROUGH IS IS 10. WE SURF IN PLACE THROUGH IHS GET HIM A TICKET BACK TO SEATTLE. THAT'S WHAT HE WANT TO DO, AT THAT PROGRAM WORKS FOR HUNDREDS OF P PEOPLE. WE DO NEED MORE. IN MY OPINION, MORE PEDESTRIAN MEDICAL EXAMINER ANKLE RESPITES BASE. WE DO NEED THE HONU. MEDICAL RESPITE SPACE. SECOND HONU IN WAIPAHU ONCE AGAIN, WE GET CORE GETS PEOPLE TO THESE FIRST TIER PLACES. ESPECIALLY WITH THE M H-3 PROCESS.

THAT IS WHERE WE NEED, I THINK SECONDARY PLACES TO GO. FOR THOSE WITH MENTAL HEALTH ILLNESS, OR SUBSTANCE ABUSE, MAYBE THAT CAN'T QUITE GO TO THE MEDICAL RESPITES OR HONU BECAUSE THEY NEED A LITTLE MORE SUPER-SCRYINGS, MEDICATION THAT SORT OF THING. SUPER-VISION. PEOPLE THAT WERE HELPING THROUGH THE M H-3 PROCESS. ARE IN MOST CASE.

SEVERELY MENTALLY ILL. DON'T CHAOS HAVE MENTAL ILLNESS. ENVIRONMENTAL. WITH TREATMENT CAN BE STAGEIZED, NOTHING LONGER,. A DONOR TO THEMSELVES O OTHERS. DANGER TO THEMSELVES OR OTHERS CAN BE STABILIZE THE. SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF TRAFFIC FATALITIES LAST YEAR. SOME OF THOSE AUTO VERSUS PEDESTRIANS. PEOPLE WALK IN THE ROADWAYS AS LEAST 'HANDFUL OF THOSE, NIMITZ HIGHWAY, CAW KEWLEY HIGHWAY, OTHER PLACES WHERE CAW CAW KEWLEY HIGHWAY. HOMELESS DON'T REALIZE WOG DOWN THE HIGHWAY 3:00 349 MORNING AN HIT BY AWE CAR THE GET KILLED. OFTEN DRIVER CAR GETS INJURED. SFOCUS TBEED TO GET HELP OFF THE STREETS, NEED TO GET HELP WITH DIGNITY AND COMPASSION, MP3 POSSESS RIGHT NOW AGAIN, MENTIONED, PROCESS. HPD TEAM THAT WORKS WITH US. DEDICATED OFFICER OUTSTANDING OFFICER. WITHIN DA A WEEK ALSO HAVE SHERIFF THAT IS WORK WITH US. BUT, PRESENCE OF CORE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT TO HELP THESE PEOPLE GET OFF THE STREETS HAS BEEN REALLY KEY. 80% PEOPLE THEN IT'S A DETAINT, LEGAL DETAIMENTD, THEY JUST VOLUNTARY CLIMB INTO THEAMBULANCE. OKAY I'LL GO. THIS IS DONE WITH PASSING COMPASSION. IT'S NOT DONE WRESTLING PEOPLE TO THE GROUND OR FIGURE LIKE THAT. BUT IT WILL CHANGE WAY WE APPROACH HOMELESS IN THE FUTURE. BUT TO EVERYONE'S POINT, MENTIONED THIS, WE DO NEED THAT NEXT TIER OF PLACES TO GO. THAT IS REALLY BEYOND CORE. AND BEYOND OUR DEPARTMENT.

Councilmember Weyer: THAT'THAT'S A AHI, KAKAAKO, KAHI MASON HO ALL. LLEAHI, RESPITE.ALA 62 BEDS. LEAHI AND CALLED H4 IWILEI REST STOP BUILTING. THESE MEDICAL RESPITES. IN TOTAL OVER 100 BEDS, WE GOT ONE GUY WE FOUND, HE IS USED EMS 280 TIMES. SO GIVING HIM OFF THE STREETS INTO WHETHER IT'S CRISIS SEN MEDICAL RESPITE, SH SHORT SHORT-CIRCUITED ALL THOSE CAN YOUS BURDENING 911 SYSTEM NEEDS TO HAVE A HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE. OTHER THING IS CORE HAS BEEN CENTRAL IN IWILEI. OR PROUD OF WHAT WE'VE DONE IN CHINATOWN. NOT DONE YET. WE WANT TO EXPORT THAT TO OTHER COMMUNITIES. AND WE ARING FOB BASING AT LEAST ONE AMBULANCE AND SUV IN WAHIAWA. AND NEXT MONTH OR TO. TO HELP NORTH SHORE WEST SIDE, WAIPAHU. AND WE'LL PROBABLY BE MORE SATELLITE IT'S IN THE FUTURE. CORE IS MOANALUA. ALL OVER GARDEN ISLAND. EL CORE IS MOBILE. EMPLOYEE LRB ON IT'S NORTH SHORE OR MILILANI AREA HELP SERVICE THAT COMMUNITY, WE DO WANT TO EXPAND CORE. TEAM IS RIGHT SIDEDMENT WE HAVE ENOUGH POSITIONS AND WE HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING. RIGHT SIZED WE'RE IN A GOOD SPOT WITH CONSIDER,.

Councilmember Weyer: I APPRECIATE THAT ALL SEE AN UNDERSTAND, CHRONICALLY HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS OR FAMILIES EASY TO REHOUSE IF WE HAD THE UNITS. FOLKS WITH UNDERLYING ISSUES, MEDICAL OR OTHER SUBSTANCE ABUSE, MENTAL HEALTH, THOSE ISSUES. THINK ALL YOU HAVE OUR COMMUNITIES DISE'O DENTIST STRICT PROBABLY SINGLE LARA CROSS THE ISLAND. IN DISIK DISTRICT GROUP YOU HAVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS STRUGGLING WITH THAT AND OUR OFTENTIMES KIND OF RELOCATE BACK TO THEIR HOME CAN COMMUNITY NEAR, FAMILY MEMBER, BUT OF COURSE, BECAUSE OF THEIR UNDERLYING ISSUES. ARE HOMELESS. KIND OF WHY I BRICH THE GEOGRAPHIC QUESTION. JUST WRAP UP I UNDERSTAND THE BUDGET LIMB TAILINGSES AND PRIOR YOUR -- -LIMITATION. TALK ABOUT TWO THINGS ALSO IN ADDITION FOR THE AMBULANCE STAFFING. FUNDING AN CIP. FOR KO'OLAUPOKO. EXPANSION. SO ONE WHETHER IT'S CORAL KINGDOM LOCATION, IS STILL AVAILABLE. OR ON THE MARKET OR STILL A PART CONVERSATION. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHETHER THERE'S FOLKS ASSESSES BACK MUCH THAT PROPERTY FOR SOME TYPE OF TRAINATIONAL OR REST P IT TRANSITIONAL RESPITE OPPORTUNITIES THERE'S THOSE ADDITIONAL STRUCTURES BEHIND THE MAIN FRONT ONE. ADD THEN FROM THERE, I'LL KIND OF LET YOU DIVE INTO THAT FIRST. ANY UPDATES ON THAT. AT ALL?

Testifier: THAT OPPORTUNITY WOULD BE AMAZING. FOR A RESILIENCE CENTER FOR OUTREACH CENTER FOR EMS HUB FOR I DON'T KNOW WITH WARM-UPS A CORE HUB, PLACE ABOUT A CORE HUB, LAUNCH OUT A, CORAL KINGDOM, ALREADY BUILT. WOULDN'T HAVE TO BUILD ANYTHING. WOULDN'T HAVE TO HI HESD30 ACRES ON WAIKANE VALLEY HOME MANY NOT IDEAL FOR A STATION. LOOK INTO THAT. WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ON THAT COAST. NO AMBULANCE RIGHT NOW BETWEEN KANEOHE AND KAHUKU. AND IS OUR LONG-TERM GOAL STREEFNLG PLAN WHICH SHARED WITH ALL YOU, IS TO HAVE AMBULANCE IN THAT COMMUNITY AND FOGY TWO AMBULANCE POTENTIALLY TWO A.M. LANGUAGESMENT WAIALUA AND WAIKANE AIR BEFORE 2030. STRATEGIC PLAN. PUPUKEA NEEDING AIL AMBULANCE ESPECIALLY IF WE GET FIRST CLASS FIRST RESPONDER CENTER THERE WHICH IS I BELIEVE IN THE WORKS. WITH RESPECT TO, THERE ARE AGAIN ON THAT COAST, HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS. NOT IN THE SAME DENSITY AS MAYBE OTHER PARS ON THE ISLAND. WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING SOME WORK IN KAHUKU. AND NEXT TWO WEEKS. WITH PEOPLE OUT THERE TRYING TO THEN. FIND OTHER PLACES. TO LIVE. WE ALSO REPORTS FOR INSTANCE LIKE IN THE VELZY LAND AREA. OF FOLKS 'OIWI TV OUTER ISLANDS FLAT -- PROJECTED. GET COMMUNITY COMPLAINTS URGE PEOPLE TO USE THE HONOLULU 3 ONE. SEND PHOTOS THROUGH THAT. 11. WE MONITOR IT CORE AND WILL RESPOND. 311. SMALL TEAM IF NOT A BIG TEAM ENGAGE IN C INN CABINSES WITH E. CAN'T BE EVERYWHERE. WE REALLY TRY TO GET CATHOLIC CS PEOPLE ARE SEEM TO BE IN CRISIS.

Councilmember Weyer: APPRECIATE THAT. APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT GOES INTO IDENTIFYING NUNS I THINK WE THAT YOU WILL KNOW STRESSERS. IDENTIFYING 911. IMPACTS OR LIMITED TAKES POINT IN TIME COUNT. IDENTIFYING NUMBERS. HERE YESTERDAY FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, PRESENTATION, HOMELESS BREAKFAST AND HAU'ULA CIVIC CENTER BRINGS IN 50 PEOPLE. JUST A SMALL AREA. WE KNOW THERE IS, LIKE YOU SAID VELZY LAND. THREE OR FOUR CLEAN-UPS OVER THE PAST 3 OR 4 YEARS. FLAGGING THERE ARE LARGE COMMUNITIES AND YOU KNOW, JUST ENDING WANT THE TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE AWARE. SO DCS LAST MONTH OUT PUNALU'U OR OCEAN SIDE. AS SOME OF THE PROVIDERS OR DEVELOPERS FROM CHINATOWN ARE LOOKING AT EXAMPLE PABTSZING THAT AND REACTIVATING THAT AND JUST UNDERSTANDING, PART OF THAT COMMUNITY BEEN OPENING CHANGE UNDERLYING COVENANTS TO MAKE AT THAT MORE ACCESSIBLE TO FAMILIES AS WELL. BECAUSE OF A ITS HISTORIC USE OF HAVING THE SUBSECTION OF THE UNIT FOR OR THE FOR DEMENTIA PATIENTS, SEPARATE WARD WITH THE SEPARATE DYING THAT KIND OF CLOSED OFF IN CONTAINED. SO MAYBE WORTH ALSO HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM AS PROPERTY HOVERS TOWARDS BEING ACTIVATED WHETHER SOME TYPE OF DIGITAL TRANSITIONAL OR RESPITE COULD BE PROVIDED. ADDITIONAL, GIVEN IT COULD BE CONTAINED IN MORE SAFELY, SAFEWAY. OF COURSE NOT GUARANTEED BUT I THINK WORTH HAVING THE CONVERSATION. GIVEN DO SIGN OF BUILDING. AND THEN DESIGN BUILDING AND NEEDS IN COMMUNITIES.

Testifier: GREAT PROPERTY. IT WOULD REALLY SERVE THAT COASTLINE FROM KAHUKU PROBABLY TO KANEOHE WELL. THE ONLY DIFFICULTY WOULD BE IT IS FAR BRING SOMEBODY THERE FROM LIKE PE PEARL CITY OR WAHIAWA OR WAIANAE. BUT TO SERVICE THAT COMMUNITY, PEOPLE WANTED TO LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY, TRANSITION, IT IS GREAT PROPERTY.

Councilmember Weyer: I APPRECIATE THAT. ONLY ABOUT TEN UNITS IN THAT SEPARATE WARD. NOT SOING ENTIRE ISLAND'S CRISIS BUT I DO THINK FOR ALL OF US. NOT SOLVING, VANTAGE POINT HAVING MORE REGENTLY BASED FACILITIES, WOULD HELP MINIMIZE IMPACT. MYSELF, SEEN SAME INDIVIDUALS AND SAY DOWNTOWN, WALKING DOWN KAMEHAMEHA HIGHWAY IN FRONT OF MCDONALD AND WAHIAWA. SO PEOPLE ARE GENERALLY OFTEN RETURNING TO WHERE THEY ARE COMFORTABLE WITH OR HAVING FAMILY EYES. EYE TIES TRYING TO DIVERSIFY AND JUST, SPREAD OUT OPPORTUNITIES. WE HAVE CAN -- FAMILY TIES, HELP PROTECTION GET OUT OF THAT SICKLE. CYCLE. STAY IN THE CYCLE SEE THE IMPACT ACROSS ISLAND. THANK YOU FOR ALL WORK YOU'RE DOING,.

Councilmember Tulba: THANK YOU AND THANK TO YOU YOUR STAFF AND EMS. FOR THE TREAT NO TRANSPORT. OPTION. AS POTENTIAL REVENUE. WHAT IS A TIMELINE FOR SEEING THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED? SO WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. STATE ADMINISTRATIVE RULES SO AMBULANCE BILL NOW IS AROUND $3,000. STATE FEW YEARS AGO, SET THAT TREAT, NO TRANSPORT RATE AT ABOUT A THOUSAND DOLLARS. OR LITTLE MORE. FIRST I FELT THAT WAS A LITTLE SUCCESS EVERYONE. BUT THAT SUNSETTED. SUCCESSIVE NO LONGER IN ADMINISTRATIVE RULES. EBBS AS UNLESS THEY RELIFED SCHEDULE TREAT NO TRANSPORT DO YOU IT THROUGH THISSING ABOUT I. 3 TO $500 MORE REASONABLE. GENERALLY CAN BE COVERED BY INSURANCE. WOULD BE COVER BID NO FAULT OR WORKMAN'S COMP. PRIVATE INSURANCE, MEDICAID, MEDICAID DEPENDING. MEDICARE. SO THE TIME LINE WOULD BE AS IF WE DID INTRODUCE SOMETHING THROUGH THIS BODY. TWO OR THREE MONTHS. PHOENIX, JUST GOING BACK. I SUPPORT AGAIN JUST GOING BACK. I SUPPORT TREAT NO O TRANSPORT. WOULDN'T OF THE WARD AVENUE OVERPASS TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T STICK PEOPLE WITH A BILL THAT THEY --

Testifier: WHY IS THIS A GOOD THING IN.

Councilmember Tulba: GIVEN US YOUR OPINION ON WHY THIS A GOOD THING AND MAYBE EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC WHO IS WATCHING HOPE THEY ARE, WHY THIS IS GOOD. BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS. WELL, THERE ARE PEOPLE BO USE EMS. AS AND FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR THAT MATTER. FOR ESPECIALLY CERTAIN CARE HOMES. AND SKILLED NURSING FACILITIESES CALL. NOT THOSE A FEW. REGULARLY WILL CALL FIRE DEPARTMENT THEY NEED SOMEBODY LIFERLT THE UP AND JUST PUT BACK IN BED. LIFTED UP. DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF. EMS CALLED CHECK SOMEBODY OUT EVEN THOUGH MEDICAL DIRECTOR ON THE PAYROLL AND RNS ON STAFF. I DEBT REALLY WANT TO USE ABUSE, BUT IT'S DON'T WANT, OVER USE, OF EMS RESOURCE SOURCES, FOR INSTANCE NLS RESOURCES PONDS AS PUNALU'U WAS OPEN ONLY ONE AMBULANCE. KAHUKU. GOING TO THAT PLACE I THINK COUPLE TIMES A DAY SOMETIMES. OUT COMMUNITY, FOR THE HEART ATTACKS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE DPROWNING AND OTHER EMERGENCIES. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WOULD MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE OVER YUHAS OF EMS. MAKE SOME DIFFERENCE AND THEN ALSO GENERATE REVENUE FOR THE SIT ULTIMATELY COME BACK TO EMS FOR FUND MORE UNIT. FOR THE CITY, TUBE YOU MENTIONED SLIELTD IN WAHIAWA FOR CORE. ARE SATELLITE. I REMEMBER MAYOR SAYING LAST YEAR SPEECH, WE'RE COMING TO WAIPAHU, OUR SIDE. WHAT IS THE STATUS ON HAVING CORE IN OUR LOCATION?

Testifier: ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO, WE AS YOU KNOW, WORKED WITH FACILITY IN WAIPAHU TO PUT CORE THERE. AND BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THAT FACILITY WAS FUNDED, FOSSA AFFORDABLE HOUSING COULDN'T LET US AUS IT BECAUSE THE WAY BOND WAS IS MY UNDERSTANDING. GOAL IS TO STILL HAVE A CONTINGENT IN WAIPAHU. THAT W WILL BE IDEAL EAST SHORES LAY TEAM CAN GET OVER TO KAILUA PRETTY QUICK. IWILEI TEAM. ACROSS THE PALI. BUT TO GET OUT TO KAPOLEI AND WAIANAE. BEING IN WAIPAHU WOULD BE IDEAL. GETTING TIMEOUT OUT TO NORTH SHORE, WAHIAWA, IDEALMENT SO STILL ON OUR, AU PLANS. GETTING OUT TO. HAVE TO FIND THE RIGHT FA SILL. DON'T WANT TO SPEND I PUT A LOT OF MONEY IN RENT. SMALLER FOOTPRINT WHERE THE FOLKS ESPECIALLY LIVE ON THAT SIDE, COULD COME IN WORK. RIGHT FACILITY) AND PHOENIX, CORE SERVICES WHOLE ISLAND, BUT HAVE A BASE THERE WHERE THEY KNOW, I WAS AT PAY PARK TEACHING IN EWA BEACH, BEACH PARK, DEEP IN EWA BEACH. I DON'T REMEMBER WHERE. WENT DOWN FORT WEAVER ROAD. ACROSS ONE OF THE GOLF COURSES PROBABLY 8 HOMELESS LIVED THERE. TALK WITH THEM ALL. HAVE SOMEBODY DOWN THERE BE KIND OFTEN GAUGE THOSE FOLKS ON REGULAR BASIS. AND A LOT OF WORKING CORE GETTING TO NAPILI AND TRUST, FOR THE VOLUNTARY PART, THEY HAVE BEEN REALLY SUCCESSFUL AT THAT. BUT AGAIN, IF THEY GET DOWN FIND THOSE PEOPLE BECAUSE OF ASSESSMENT SUBSTANCE ABUSE OR MENTAL ILLNESS OR DANGER TO THEMSELVES OR OTHER HE IS APPLY THE MP3 FOR INVOLUNTARY TRANSPORT.

Councilmember Tulba: THANK YOU. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER TULBAMENT THANK YOU DIRECTOR. BEFORE WE GO SO EKED ROUND OF QUESTIONS I HAD A COUPLE OF FOLLOW-UP QUESTION. SECOND ROUND WHERE ONE OF THEM RELATED TO YOUR SLIDE. CLARIFY, NOT SURE. HEALTH SERVICE BRANCH. YOU BROUGHT UP THE, 167.3 INCREASE FOR RENTAL SPACE. I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID. WHERE EXACTLY IS THIS RENTAL SPACE AGAIN? Testifier: SO PREVIOUSLY, HEALTH HEALTH DEPARTMENT SERVICE BRANCH WAS IN 70-YEAR-OLD FIRE STATION. IN IWILEI. Chair Okimoto: WHERE EXACTLY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW IS THIS.

Testifier: THAT'S WHERE THEY WERE. DELAPIDATED MAY BE GETTING TOWN TORN DOWN FOR SKYLINE. 3 YEARS AGO MOVED HEALTH SERVICE TOTS LILIHA MEDICAL BUILDING. ON THE CAMPUS OF OLD ST. FRANCIS HOSPITAL. IN LILIHA. AND FOR THE FIRST I BELIEVE 3 YEARS, WE USED FEDERAL FUNDING. TO COVER THE RENT FOR THE SPACE. Chair Okimoto: LILIHA MEDICAL BUILDING. OKAY. THANK YOU MANY AND THEN SOME OTHER FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS, YOU MENTIONED BILLING. I W WANT TO GO BACK TO THAT. IF YOU COULD GIVE ME AN UPDATE, WAS DEPARTMENT SUCCESSFUL ON YOUR APPEAL? TO THE MEDICARE TO MEDICAL FOR RECOVER THE 6 PLUS MONTHS FROM 202 EARLY 2023?

Testifier: MY UNDERSTANDING IS NO. Chair Okimoto: NO. OKAY. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT AMOUNT WAS? Testifier: OFF TOP OF MY HEAD. NO BUT I COULD GET THAT TO YOU. Chair Okimoto: I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. BECAUSE WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE AS A CITY HAD TO IS ABSORB IF THAT AMOUNT WAS NOTE. Testifier: PART OF THAT WAS COVERED IN THE STIPEND FROM THE STATE. UP FRONT, KNOWING THAT THERE WOULD BE A PERIOD WHERE WE WOULDN'T ABLE TO COLLECTED. I CAN GET YOU KNOWS NUMBERS.

Chair Okimoto: PART WE DIDN'T. HAVE NOT ONE OF THAT APPEAL. DID NOT REFUN RECOVER THAT FUNDING. IF YOU COULD GET ME THAT AMOUNT. GREAT. ANOTHER ONE MY QUESTIONS, IF YOU BELIEVE THAT EMS IS MAXIMIZING REVENUE OPPORTUNITIES AND HOW SO, YOU BROUGHT UP THE TREAT NO TRANSPORT BILLING. BROUGHT UP THE STATE, TALKING ABOUT THE STATE CHANGING ITS WAY TO COLLECT PEDESTRIAN CADE. ANY OTHER WAYS THAT YOU THINK DEPARTMENT IS ABLE TO MAXIMIZE REVENUE. OPPORTUNITIES? OTHER THAN THOSE MENTIONED.

Testifier: THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. SO LIKE I SAID, WITH FOLLOW THE STATE EMS BUYING GUIDELINES. NOW, THIS BODY AND YOU ARE AOUR DEPARTMENT COULD RAISE TRANSPORT RATE FOR AMBULANCE INSTEAD OF 3,000, COULD FEEFNLINGSLY CHARGED MAKING IT POTENTIALLY CHARGE, $5,000. THE HOWEVER, MEDICARE AND MEDICAID ONLY PAYS SO MUCH. AROUND 6, $700. TO GNATTER MAY WE CHARGE. A THOUSAND OR $10,000. SO THOSE HIGHER RATES THAN FALL ON COMMERCIAL INSURANCE. LIKE HMSA AND KAISER. NO FAULT AND WORK MONEY'S CAM COMPEL. COULD CHANGE BAY IS RIGHT OF THE BLOF ABOVE AND BEYOND WAS THE STATE SETS RATE. WORKMAN'S COME MANY. GENERATE MORE REVENUE FROM HMSA, KAISER, NO FAULT AND WORKMAN'S COMP. AND I GUESS CASH PAYING PATIENTS.

THAT'S ONE WAY. THE TREAT NO TRANSPORT IS ANOTHER WAY. AND THAT COULD ALSO BE COVERED BY INSURANCE. SO WOULDN'T NECESSARILY SOAK SOMEBODY WITH A BILL. THROUGH THE MEDICAID AND ENRICHMENT HANSENMENTS, CHANGE STATE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE FOR THE RULE, DISCREPANCIES. ENHANCEMENTS WAY THE PROGRAM WORKS, MAYBE COSTS US $800 TO DO IT I TRANSPORT. AND MEDICAID ONLY REIMBURSES $600 PER SE. AND THEN THAT $200 DIFFERENCE COMES FROM THAT SPECIAL FUND TO MAKE THE CITY KOHALA WHOLE ON MONEY ESSENTIALLY LOSING BY TRANSPORTING MEDICAID PATIENTS. THAT WOULD ALSO GENERATE REVENUE.

Chair Okimoto: BACK TO THE TREAT NO TRANSPORT, KEEAUMCOUNCILMEMBER TULBA ASKING ABOUT THAT. YOU MENTIONED IN PAST SERVICES ARE OFTEN ABUSE TIED. WE TRIED TO MINIMIZE OR MITIGATE THAT. HAVE YOU GUYS START THIS SURF YOU IF YOU CARRY FIGHT WITH ME CLARIFY HOW A WEATHER FORECAST E'O -- HOW THAT WORK OR IS THIS JUST A PLAN RIGHT NOW. Testifier: RIGHT NOW WE DO TREAT NO TRAGEDIES PORTS EVERY DAY. DON'T I WILL P FOR. TREAT NO PUBLI TRANSPORT DON'T R IT. SUNSET ADMINISTRATIVE RULES HAVE SUNSET HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WE WOULD HAVE TO PROPOSE FEE, AND COME THIS BODY TO DISCUSS IT AND APPROVE IT.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. THANK ALSO FOR PROVIDING THE STATUS UPDATE LAST LAST WEEK MAY AND COMMUNICATION FROM FROWR DEPARTMENT. D-161. IN THIS COMMUNICATION REPORT THE IN YOUR REPORT, REVENUE COLLECTION IS CLOSE TO 50 MILLION. ALSO MENTIONED TODAY. HOWEVER, STATEMENT OF RENEWS AND MAYOR'S OPERATING BUDGET ON PAGE C6 REFLENGS AROUND 46 MILLION. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE DISCREPANCY? REFLECTS AROUND 46 MILLION. Testifier: YEAH. I THINK, WE AM TO PROVIDE THAT LAST AUGUST. WE HAD-HONORED FOR. OUR BUDGET TEAM. SO WE HAD TO PROVIDE. USED NUMBER WE PRY VOODOO IN AUGUST. SO PROVIDED IN AUGUST. PREMIUMED FOR BUDGET. WHEN WE REANALYZED IT LAST WEEK, IT'S HIGHER NUMBER.

Chair Okimoto: OKAY. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFICATION. Testifier: I'M HAPPY ABOUT 1234123450 MENTIONED TO ME THE MH-3. TALKED ABOUT. FOR THOSE WHO ARE PROGRESS YOU MADE, I WAS WONDERING WHAT HAPPENS TO THE PARENT? GET THEM O OFF THE STREET. GREAT THING FOR THEM. FOR THE PATIENT. WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM AFTER? WE TRANSPORT THEM. I'M ALM ZOOING. THEY GO NOT ER HOSPITAL. WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT?

Testifier: SO MH-3 DETAINMENT FOR EMERGENCY TRANSPORTATION. FOR EMERGENCY VALUATION. IT HAS TO BE SIGNED OFF BY HEALTH CARE PROVIDER. AND LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. WE TAKEN HALF OF THEM TO THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CRISIS CENTER. OTHER HALF BETWEEN CATSEL AND QUEEN'S EMPLET R. CASTLE. OF THE 30 APPROXIMATELY 34 TAKEN SO FARMER, HE WITH KNOW O FAR. 11 ARE IN SOME TYPE OF, STRUCTURED ENVIRONMENT. NOW. MEDICAL RESPITE, HOSPITAL, I THINK ONE WENT TO HAS HOSPICE. GREGORY HOUSE I BELIEVE ONE PERSON. ONE PERSON IHC DETOX. FOR ADDICTION. IHS, OTHER REMAINING, WERE DEEMED NO LONGER TO BE A DANGER TO THEMSELVES AND RELEASED FROM THOSE FACILITIES WHERE WE TOOK THEM. 11 NOT STAGE OR UNFIT AND PUT BACK OUT. OTHER UNSTABLEMENT LESS THAN 20. 19, THEY ARE KEPT INTO A FACILITY?

Testifier: SO SOME OF THEM STATE, WHERE WHEREVER WE TOOK THEM, MANY SO OF THEM ARE RELEASED WEEK LATER SOME OF THEM RELEASED DAY LATER. AS WHEN WE FOLLOWED UP ON ALL OF THEM, 11 ARE NOT ON THE STREETS NOW. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS REMAIN HAVE GONE BACK TO THE STREETS OR GONE HAWAII HOME OR GONE SOMEWHERE. Chair Okimoto: MAJORITY OF THEM FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER, PUT BACK ON STREETS. WHAT HAPPENS. I'M ASSUMING THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING FOR ALL OF A SUDDEN NOT BE A DANGER. Testifier: RIGHT. WE HAVE FOUND. Chair Okimoto: PUT THEM BACK IN? GET THEM AGAIN?

Testifier: SORRY. IF WE COME ACROSS THEM AGAIN, CORE, AND THEY ARE DANG TORE THEMSELVES OR OTHERS, WE WILL DO ANOTHER, MH-3. WE'VE HAD TWO OR THREE EMAILPEOPLE. AMONGST THOSE TWO OR THEE PEOPLE AMONGST 34 MORE THAN ONE H M3. Testifier:

Chair Okimoto: MOVING FORWARD GOOD TO WATCH YOU MENTIONED A LOT TODAY R SOWCHEDZS LIKE AT FIRST, GLANCE, YOU MESSAGES AID LOT TODAY MENTION A LOT TODAY. COURT SYSTEM TREATING CYCLE THAT'S NOT HELPING. WHAT CAN WE DO TO ADDRESS PRE TEENS FROM, REPEAT FROM TBEE HAVERS OF HAPPENING USING RESOURCES TO GET THEM IN RELEAD AGAIN. BEHAVIORS, TH THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. LAST QUESTION BEFORE ROUND TWO. YOU MESSAGED EARLIER, I THINK IT WAS COUNCILMEMBER WEYER QUESTION. ARER THAT YOU PLACES TO GO QUOND CORE AND BEYOND DEPARTMENT. WHAT DID YOU MEAN BY THAT? ARE YOU THILG OF HAVING THESE PLACES THAT NEXT TIER OR NEXT LEVEL OF PLACES FOR CORE PATIENT GOSS. WHAT ARE YOU THINKING JIRKS THANK YOU IT FOR THAT QUESTION. CORE GOATEN VERY GOO CORE VERY GOOD GETTING PEOPLE OFF-STREETS SOMEWHERE. HONU, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CRISIS CENTER EMPLET R, ONE OF THE MEDICAL RAECEE REPS YAZMIN PITPT CORE DOING VERY WELL AT THAT AS E WE SPEAK. RECIPES MP3 PEOPLE DAGGER TO THEMSELVES. BEYOND THOSE PLACES, THOSE AREN'T PLACE THAT IS YOU CAN STAY AT. DANGER TO THEMSELVES JRNTION GENERALLY, MEDICAL RESPITES WE LIKE THEM ONE TO THREE MONTHS. NOT SOMETHING YOU STAY FOREVER AND SO WHAT FIND R FINDING IS FROM THE MEDICAL RESPITE IT'S, A LOT OF THE FOLKS ARE GOING TO YOURSELFENING HOME OR FOSTER CARE, ARCH, ADULT RESIDENTIAL CARE HOME AN THAT IS WORKING PRETTY WELL. A LOT OF FOLKS ARE GOING TO HOMES. MENTAL ILLNESS SIGNIFICANT MENTAL ILLNESS, SOME OF THEM ARE GOING TO THE MEDICALS ARE YAZMIN PITPIT. BUT WE NEED A PLACE FOR ETHICS COMMISSION TO GO. RESPITES. A PLACE FOR THEM GO. SOMETHING THAT THE STATE, DODOHDCS CERTAIN DEGREE, MORE IN THEIR ARENA RATHER THAN IN OUR ARENAER. CORE. BUT STATE HOSPITAL OBJECT CHOICE BUT THEY ARE OVER CAPACITY. BY SO LIKE 80 PATIENTS. SO REALLY, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY

MORE ROOM AT THE FACILITY. ABOUT YOU THEN WE HAVE A PRIVATE FACILITY OWNED BY QUEEN'S. IT'S PROBABLY ONLY 20% OCCUPIED. Chair Okimoto: IN YOUR EXPERT OPINION, WAIHEE MEAN BY NEXT TIER LEVEL. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S WHAT YOU MEAN. DIRECTOR IRE ISLAND. SECOND ROUND QUESTIONS. THANK YOU CHAIR.

Councilmember Cordero: I HAVE A FOLLOW-UP. ABOUT A DISCUSSION AND RESOLUTION THAT WE HAD IN '24. I'MER SO I. YEAR '2024. ABOUT METH SERVICE AND ASSESSMENTS. IS THAT EMBEDDED WITHIN AN BUG THE FOR WITHIN HEALTH SERVICE BRANCH? WITHIN EMS? TO OVER OFFER AT THAT FOR FIRST RESPONDERS. Testifier: SURE. TO THAT YOU EVER FOR FIRST RESPONDERS. Testifier: CLARIFY THE QUESTION ONE MORE TIME. CORD WANT TO CLARIFY.

Councilmember Cordero: BACK IN 2024, I KNOW AWAY HAD DISCUSSION BOTH IN COMMIT IPD-T A COUNCIL, AND LOOKING TO SUPPORT, FIRST RESPOND SPOERS WITH MENTAL HEALTH ASSESSMENT. IN COMMIT I A RESOLUTION 245-21, AND I KNOW THAT 24-219 THERE ARE ABILITIES TO DO SO. POSSIBLY CURRENTLY. AND MAYBE EVEN NOT CONTRACTS BUT LIKE PROGRAMS THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT WAS ABLE TO OFFER. FIRST RESPONDERS. IS THAT BEING BUDGETED AND EFFECTUATED THROUGH HEALTH SERVICE, HEALTH SERVICES BRANCH? OR WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATION? OR WHERE CAN WE FIND THAT IN YOUR BULLYING.

Testifier: NOT GOING TO FIND IT IN THE BUDGET. IN THE BUDGET R PART OF PROGRAM THAT ALREADY BEEN IN THE EXISTENCE PRIOR TO THE RESOLUTION I THINK YOU GUYS JUST SUPPORTED IT. HEALTH SERVICE BRANCH DOES DO SOME TYPE OF METH DREEN SCREENING WHAT YOU COME IN YOUR FIRST. EACH FIRST RESPOND SPORTS HAVE PEER SUPPORT PROGRAMS. WE EMS WE HAVE A PEER SUPPORT PROGRAM. WE GO THROUGH PEER TRAIN TRAIN WILLING AND TRAINING. WELLS AS FIRE DEPARTMENT. PLACE DEPARTMENT. TRAINING PROGRAMS. WHERE THEY LEARN HOW TO SPEAK AND DIFFUSE SITUATIONS OR DEBRIEF AFTER A MASS EVENT SUCH A PEDIATRIC CARDIAC ARREST OR MASS SHOOTING. ALL OR DS DO HAVE SOME TIME SERVERS WE ALL TO ALL YOU HAVE OUR PEERS AN CIVIL WORKERS. SOME TYPE OF SERVICE.

Councilmember Cordero: NOT NECESSARILY A CONSULTANT OR EVEN A CONTRACT. IT'S JUST ALREADY OFFERED THROUGH ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT IS PARTNERED. Testifier: SO THE CITY DOES HAVE WE DO HAVE POIPU EMPLOYEE INSIDE THE HEALTON SERVICE BRANCH. HEALTH SERVICE BRANCH. APPLY E ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. AND WE DO HAVE A CONTRACT WHERE WORK LIFE HAWAII. SO IF YOU DO WANT TO GET REFERRED OUT AND NOT WORK WITHIN THE CITY CONFINES CITY PEER SUPPORT PROGRAM YOU HAVE A COOPERATION. APPLIES TO EVERY CITY EMPLOYEE. Testifier: Councilmember Cordero: I UNDERSTAND. EMBED THROUGH WORK LIFE HAWAII AND ALSO WITHIN THE EMPLOYEE WITHIN HEALTH SERVICE BRANCH. Testifier: YES. Councilmember Cordero: THANK YOU FOR THAT CHAIR IF CLARIFICATIONINGEL. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA.

Councilmember Tupola: TOMB SHOULD MOVE TO THE NEXT DPP. WE THINK YOU GUYS STANDING UP FOR SO LONG. I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA. COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA. TYLER DOS-SANTOS TAM. WEYER. TULBA. EVERYBODY. AND CHAIR WATERS. ANY FOLLOW-UP? NO. DHANG THANK YOU SO MUCH. ECHO WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR ALL THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING ESPECIALLY I CAN TOO KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY SAFE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE WITH US. Testifier: I APPRECIATE THE TIME. I APPRECIATE GETTING TO GO FIRST. FIRST TIME WE'VE DONE THAT. I LOVE THAT. ALL OF YOUR RESPONSIBLE A AGAIN, JUST THANK OUR PARAMEDICS DISPATCH EVERYONE AN EVES FOR ALL WORK THEY DID. DISPATCHERS. THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: WE REALLY ARE GRATEFUL. MEMBERS MOVING ON NOW TO THE NEXT DEPARTMENT. GRATEFUL TO HAVE HONOLULU POLICE DEPARTMENT AND FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THIS PRESENTATION IS AVAILABLE ONLINE AS DEPARTMENTAL COMMUNICATION 174, 2026, JOINING US TODAY I BELIEVE I SEE ACTING CHIEF VAINS AND DEPUTY CHIEF PETER YOUNGAND HEIN U RYAN H HIRONAKA. VAINS.

Testifier: ALOHA. CHAIR OKIMOTO VICE CHAIR NISHIMOTO. COMMITTEE MEMBERS. VACCINE VANISHINGS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE OUR BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 26-27. RADE VANIC GIVE ME A MOMENT. WHILE THE POWERPOINT BRIANNA BR. IT LET'S BEGIN. RIGHT ON THE FIRST PAGE, SEE HERE, THAT OUR TOTAL REQUEST FOR FISCAL YEAR '2027 IS ABOUT $396 MILLION THAT REPRESENTS 5.48% INCREASE FROM LAST FISCAL YEAR. $326 MILLION OF THAT IS ATTRIBUTED TO SAL RITZ. ABOUT 6.34% INCREASE FROM LAST FISCAL YEAR. SALARIES. LITTLE OVER $63 MILLION OF THAT IS ATTRIBUTED TO CURRENT EXPENSES. ABOUT 11.88%. INCREASE. 7 MILLION OF THAT IS RELATED TO EQUIPMENT. WHICH IS DECREASE. FROM LAST YEAR. SO TOTALING 396 MILLION.

WHICH IS TOTAL INCREASE OF ABOUT 20.5 MILLION. NEXT SLIDE. GOING OVER SIGNIFICANT BUDGET ISSUES. SO WE'RE NOT REQUESTING ANY NEW POSITIONS. YOU'LL SEE THERE FOR POLICER, CARS WITHIN OUR OPERATING BUDGET. POLICE CARS. $7 MILLION REQUEST. SO WE'RE ON THE CURRENT REPLAYMENT CYCLE WHICH IS DINED TO REDUCE THE REPAIR COSTS. DESIGNED, DOWN TIME, ALSO VEHICLE SHORE SHO*R E'O SHORTAGE ASEN SIXIVE USE OF NEWER EXCESSIVE VEHICLES REDUCE SERVICE ILLEGAL LIFE. COST RADIOS INCLUDING RADIOS ACCESSRY PRISONER RESTRAINS GRAPHICS OUTSIDE OF VEHICLE, EMERGENCY LIGHTING, SIREN AND COMMUNICATION MULTIEQUIPMENT. ALL INCLUDED IN THE COST OF THE VEHICLE. ALSO, WE HAVE ONLINE FIRE APPLICATION. WHICH IS $1 MILLION REQUEST. THAT IS TO ACCOMMODATE FASTER AND EASIER APPLICATION PROCESS. THAT'S ALSO REQUIREMENT THAT IS WAS REQUIRED BY CIVIL LAWSUIT. P25 RADIO UP GR UPGRADE. $6.5 MILLION REQUEST. THAT IS AS A RESULT OF OLDER MODELS, WHICH ARE AT THE END OF LIFE. SUPPORT FROM CURRENT MANUFACTURER. THAT INCLUDES SOFTWARE PARTS AND MAINTENANCE WHICH CEASE TO BE SUPPORTED. THEN FINALLY, RETENTION PAPER FOR COUNCILMEMBER WEYER COMMUNICATION DIVISION. DISPAMPLEERS EMERGENCY RAID WHY OPERATORS. THAT DISPATCHERS. TO, THAT IS FOR $1.7 MILLION. THAT IS TO RETAIN ESSENTIAL EXPERIENCE EMPLOYEES. FOR OVERALL PUBLIC SAFETY. MOVING O TON THE NEXT OVER THE NEXT TWO SLIDES GOING OVER OUR VACANCY EX-FOR BOTH CIVILIAN AN SWORN POSITIONS. THIS IS BROKEN DOWN INTO ALSO

GENERAL AND HIGHWAY SUBS DIED FUNDED VACANCIES. SUBSIDIZED, FOR CIVILIAN VAWCT POSITIONS AS OF FEBRUARY 2, 2026 ARE, CIVILIAN POSITIONS, THERE WERE 177 VACANT POSITION. THAT REFLECTS TEE LEAGUES OF 15 DEACTIVATED POSITIONS. DELETION. THESE POSITIONS WE ANTICIPATE TO FILL 19 BEFORE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR. AND WITHIN THE FISCAL YEAR, INFECTION YEAR, WE ANTICIPATE FILL 70 POSITIONS. MOVING ON TO OUR SWORN POSITION, YOU SEE THERE, THAT AS FEBRUARY 2, 2026, 448 VACANT POSITIONS. BUT IF YOU TAKE INTO CAN,, CURRENTLY, WE HAVE 152 RECRUITS IN TRAINING, WE HAVE 17 POLICE SERVICE OFFICE. OR MORE COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS CADETS. CURRENT UNIFORM VIKINGSES IS 279. VACANCIES. SO BEFORE THAT, END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, '23 OF THOSE RECRUITS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN TRAINING. CURRENTLY IN FOURTH WATCH. THEY WILL FILL PRMT POSITIONS SO THEY'LL COUNT AGAINST OUR VACANCY. PERMANENT POSITION. THE OTHER 129, SO OF THE 152, 129 IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR THEY WILL BE ASSIGNED TO PERMANENT POSITION AND COUNT AGAIN HE GENS OUR VACANCY. SO AGAINST OUR VACANCY. FILLED IN, FISCAL YEAR '2027. WHAT THIS SLIDE DOESN'T SHOW IS THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO HIRE RECRUITS. IF LAST POLICE RECRUIT CLASS, WE HAD 49 POLICE RECRUIT US. AND ONE LATERAL. AND IN THE NEXT CLASS REAR

RECRUITING FOR, WE ANTICIPATE AT LEAST 50 AGAIN. FOUR CLASSES PER YEAR. SO WE ACTUALLY ANTICIPATE HIRING 200 RECRUITS PER YEAR. BUT AS YOU FOLKS KNOW, IN THE NUMBER OF BUDGET PRESENTATION, AND WITH MEETING WITH EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY, UNLIKE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, WITH WE HIRE THESE INDIVIDUALS WE DON'T FILL OUR VACANCIES IMMEDIATELY. BECAUSE WE NEED TO TRAIN THEM. THEY DON'T COUNT TOWARDS VACANCIES UNTIL AFTER ENGINES TEND PERIOD OF TIME. TEDGESDED PERIOD OF TIME WE CONTINUE TO HIRE, THEY DON'T AT AUW MAY COUNT TOWARDS VACANCIES. AUTOMATICALLY COUNT. THESE HAVE IS ON SLIDE, THEY DO. THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS, WOULD WE HIRED PROBABLY AT LEAST ONE OR MAYBE EVEN POSSIBLY TWO FISCAL YEARS AGO. CURRENTLY IN TRAINING. SOME OF THEM ARE IN WHAT WE KALUA YOU FOLKS KNOW AS FOURTH WATCH. SOME STILL SENATE ACADEMY. OVER NEXT FISCAL YEAR EVEN IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, THEY'LL BE COMING OUT ACADEMY. GOING INTO FOURTH WATCH. THEY'LL BE ASSIGNED TO A PERMIT PERMANENT POSITION AND CT AGAINST OUR VACANCY. HOVERING ON TO THE INFECTION SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE. IS IN REGARDS TO OUR NONHOLIDAY OVER TIME, THIS IS JUST BROKEN DOWN INTO THE DIFFERENT FUNDS. SO FOR THE GENERAL FUND, YOU'LL SEE THERE, JUST SHY OF $30 MILLION. FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027. AND HIGHWAY FUND. IS 2.7 FOR TOTAL OF ABOUT 32, $33 MILLION. ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT FOR FISCAL YEAR '27, COMPARED TO FISCAL YEAR 26, IS SAME. WHAT I ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THOUGH IS THAT KEEPING IN MIND, THAT WE'VE HAD FROM LAST FISCAL YEAR TO THIS FISCAL YEAR, IS TWO 5% ACROSS THE

BOARD. CBA INVISA DUANE KURISU. INCREASE. 5% CB ACHE HE INCREASE FOR, THAT OCCURRED. CBA OCCURRED IN JULY OF 2026. WHICH WASN'T ACCOUNT FOR WHEN WE DID OUR FISCAL YEAR '26 BUDGET. AND THEN THERE IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER A% ACROSS THE BOARD INCREASE AS IS GOING TO TALK EFFECT ON JULY 1. 2026. OSHA WALK-INS 2025. THAT WILL TAKE EFFECT IN 2026. ONE WAS IN 2025. ISN'T REFLECTED IN FISCAL YEAR 2026 APPROPRIATED BUDGET. SO KEEP EXAM MIND THAT OUR FISCAL YEAR KEEP EXAM MIND FERKS YEAR REQUEST FOR OVER TIME IS THE SAME AS LAST YEAR. KEEP IN MIND FISCAL YEAR YEAR REQUEST IS THE SAME. NEXT NONHOLIDAY OVER TIME BY ACTIVITY. GIVES BREAK DOWN OF THAT LAST SLIDE BY ACTIVITY. AS YOU CAN SEE, WHICH IS EXPECTED. PATROL, HAS OBVIOUSLY A LARGE MAJORITY OF OVER TIME NUMBER. 21 ALMOST 22 BILLION. AND THEN THE SECOND LARGEST IS INVESTIGATION ABOUT 5.8 MILLION. CLOSE TO 5.9. IF YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHAT THE HOURS ARE BREAKDOWN BY HOUR. 12.9 MILLION -- 21.9 MILLION COMES UNDER UNDER 270,000 HOURS. THEN FOR INVESTIGATIONS, HAVE I BEEN INVESTIGATIVE HOURS THAT COMES OUT TO ABOUT 78,000 HOURS. SO IF THAT JUST BREAK DOWN OF WHAT THOSE DOLLAR APPLES COME OUT TO. AMOUNTS COME OUT TO. NEXT SLIDE, FOR HOLIDAY OVER TIME.

BY FUND, BROKEN DOWN, SO FOR THE GENERAL FUND, IS 1.18. FOR THE HIGHWAY FUND, IS 264. FOR TOTAL OF ABOUT 11.3. THEN AGAIN, IF YOU LOOK TOTAL HOURS, THAT COMES OUT TO ABOUT 100 JUST SHY OF 140,000 HOURS TOTAL. HOLIDAY OVER TIME, BY ACTIVITY, AGAIN, IF YOU BREAK THAT DOWN, AGAIN, AS YOU WOULD EXPECT, PATROL, OBJECTING VUGSLY HAS LIONS SHARE OF AMOUNT SHPD OBVIOUSLY, LITTLE OVER 10 MILLION. FOLLOWED AGAIN BYEL INVESTIGATIONS. AT ABOUT 670,000. HEROES WISE PA PATROL UNDER 120,000 FOR OVER TIME. INVESTIGATIONS OVER 8,000 HOURS. MOVING REF MEW REVENUE SOURCE. WHILE OUR DEPARTMENT ISN'T REVENUE GENERAL RAILGT DEPARTMENT -- GENERATEING DEPARTMENT. I WE DO HAVE SOME REVENUE. SEE WHAT NUMBERS ARE THERE. I WILL DESCRIBE TO YOU WHAT THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THERE. LICENSE AN PERMIT FIREARM AN ALARMS PERMIT. THE MONEY IS GENERATED FROM. FOR TARNLG CHARGES FOR ADVICES COPIES OF RECORDS. INDIVIDUAL WANTS A COPY OF THEIR REPORT, ADVICES, FOR ALARMS SERVICE CHARGES. SERVICES. DUTY FIGHTS THAT'S ANOTHER TYPE OF CHARGE FOR SERVICE. FOR FINES AND FORFEIT, BASE THINK THAT IS -- BASICALLY ALARM FINDINGS OR FORFEITURE OF CEASE SOUTHEASTED PROPERTY.

MISCELLANEOUSER SIZED PROPERTY PISSMISCELLANEOUS FALL UNDER THT CATEGORY A SUNDRY RETO SP FUNDS GET REFUND OUTSIDE OF THE FISCAL YEAR, INSTEAD OF THAT REFUND GOING BACK INTO OUR OPERATING BUDGET. CINDY REFUND IT'S, GOES INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND COUNTS AT REVENUE. SUNDRY REFUND IT'S VACATION A A ACCOMMODATION DEPOSIT OR AUCTION SALE FOR PROPERTY, COUNTS MINI YOU MISCELLANEOUS. PROPERTY SEVER EXAMPLE PLAN TOR.

CITY & COUNTY PARKING LOTS ARE CIVIC CENTER PARKING LOTS FOR EXAMPLE, HPD HEADQUARTERS METERED LOT, KAILUA ELDERLY HOUSING PARKING LOT, KUHIO, KAIOLU, KAIMUKI, KAILUA ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT CITY & COUNTY LOTS. COUNCILS AS REVENUE IN FROM THE CITY. MOVING ON TO FEDERAL FUND. SO WE DO HAVE SOME FEDERAL FUNDS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN OUR OPERATING BUDGET. FOR POSITIONS, WE HAVE THREE SPECIFIC OPPOSITION POSITIONS FUND BY FEDERAL FUNDS. AND THIS IS A TRIBUTED TO FALLS UNDER OUR SCIENTIFIC INVESTIGATE.

Testifier: SESSION MORE COMMONLY REFERRED TO CRIME LAB. WE HAVE THREE POSITIONS, THAT ARE FEDERALLY FUND. RELATED TO DNA BACKLOG REDUCTION PROGRAM. AND TWO ONE CRIMINAL, TWO POSITION AND TWO CRIMINALIST 1 POSITION. IN REGARDS TO FEDERAL FUNDS, UNDER CURRENT EXISTENCE EXPENSES ONGOING, BASICALLY THESE ARE ALL GRANTS THAT WERE CURRENTLY ADD MON STI ADMINISTERING DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, BASICALLY THAT, WE HAVE FUNDS RELATED TO OUR PAIN STATION GENERATOR. MAIN STATION GENERATOR DIFFERENT CONFERENCE AND TRAINING THAT WE ATTEND. ALSO SOME SOFTWARE AND OTHER EQUIPMENT THAT WE PURCHASE. FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, THAT ONE IS SPECIFIC TO TAKEN ENFORCEMENT THAT WE ADMINISTER. TOBACCO. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION SELF-EXPLANATORY TO ANY TRAFFIC SAFETY GRANT THAT WE ADMINISTER. OFFICE OF JUSTICE PROGRAMS, THAT ONE IS MULTIPLE DIFFERENT TYPE OF SAFETY GRANTS. SO IT COULD SOME EXAMPLE OF THAT, WOULD BE D DEHE'S CALCULATION TRAINING. DNA CAPACITY HAEN NS HAD H HA N ENHANCE. BACKLOG REDUCTION. CABCABLE KCANINE UNIT EXAMPLE OF DIFFERENT TYPES PROGRAM WE FUND USING THAT PARTICULAR GRANT THE AND THEN, FOR THE OFFICE OF NATIONAL DRUG CONTROL POLICY, SAFER EXPAND TORY. THAT ONE IS UTILIZE FOR DRUG ENFORCEMENT. SELF-EXPLANATORY. THEN FINALLY, GETTING INTO OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, ZSEVERAL DIFFERENT PROJECTS

THAT I LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT. SO THE FIRST IS OUR HPD HEADQUARTERS PARKING GARAGE EXPANSION. JOINT WATER PROOFERRING. SO THIS IS ONE OF 7 IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS FOR HPD HEADQUARTERS. TO ADDRESS VARIOUS LEAKS. IT'S A REBID ACTUALLY DEFERRED PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR, AS COST ESTIMATED FOR THIS PROVIDE BID THE DESIGN CONSULTANT. WAS LOWER THAN THE ACTUAL BID. SO THIS ONE WE'RE REINVIGORATEING THAT FISCAL YEAR, WENT BACK TO THE DESIGN CONSULTANT TO RE-EVALUATE THE ESTIMATES. AND THE WORK NEEDED TO COMPLETE THIS PROJECT. ALSO, ANTICIPATE MECHANICAL ELECTRICAL PLUMBING IMPROVEMENTS USED IN IF I PHASE AND ALSO COULD BE USED IF EXISTING PROJECT NEEDED DIGITAL FUNDING. ON INTERMEDI INTER INTER NEXT SE $750,000 FOR DESIGN BASE OF THE PEARL CITY POLICE STATION. SO THIS IS TO DESIGN REPLACEMENT POLICE STATION. THE LAST KNOWN ESTIMATE COST FOR CONSTRUCTION WAS JUST UNDER $40 MILLION. THIS IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE MULTIYEAR PROJECT. WE ANTICIPATE FOR OFFICER SIX YEAR PERIOD, FISCAL YEAR 27, 750,000, YOU SEE HERE FOR DESIGN, IN FISCAL YEAR '28, 1.2 MILLION FOR DESIGN. '29, 1.5 FOR DESIGN. THAT WOULD FINISH OUT THE DESIGN. FISCAL YEAR '20330, MAJORITY OF CONSTRUCTION. 2030, WOULD BE 24 MILLION FOR CONSTRUCTION.

2031, 10 MILLION FOR CONSTRUCTION. 2032, FINISH OUT THE CONSTRUCTION, AND INSPECTION. 13 MILLION. SIX YEAR PROJECTION FOR THIS PROJECT. IS WE REMAINED PLANNING STAGE TENGED PERIOD OF TIME EXTENDING PERIOD OF TIME DOING NONCOMPENSATED TO FINANCIAL CONSTRAINTS. WE ARE COMMITTED TO MAKE SURE WE PROVIDE STATIONS FOR THE SLIDES WOULD LIVE IN THIS AREA. INDIVIDUALS CONTINGENCY ON, MAKE SURE THAT WE BUILD TEMPORARY STATION SO THERE ARE SOME CAL EGG CHALLENGES AWAY WANT TO MAKE SURE WE AT THE TIME THIS PROJECT DONE. PRIORITY FOR US. MOVING ONTO THE NEXT. SLIDE. THIS PROFNLG IS FOR POLICE EVIDENCE WAREHOUSE. PROJECT IS FOR R, ALTHOUGH IS A NEW PROJECT, THIS HAS BEEN PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN IN OUR BOOKS FOR THE AT LEAST PAST TEN YEARS. AND THE NEW HAVEN'T COMPLETE DEE'ODEDESIGN BEFORE. CURRENTLY ESTIMATE THE COST TO BE APPROXIMATELY 8 MILLION FOR CONSTRUCTION. DUE TO THE HIGH INITIAL COST ESTIMATE AND LIMITED CIP BUDGETING U IT'S BEEN DEFERRED FOR OTHER PROJECTS. WE'RE CURRENTLY LEASE BEING WAREHOUSE SPACE. FOR TWO LOCATIONS. ATE COST OF APPROXIMATELY 2.5 MILLION. PER YEAR. YOU SEE A WHY THIS IS A PRIORITY FOR US. SOMETHING WE FEEL NEEDS TO BE DONE SOONER THAN LATER BECAUSE THE LONGER WE PUT IT OFF, EACH YEAR, THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE KEEP ON I PLASTIC BAG THOSE LEA LEASES WENT A TO GET STARTED NOW. GOING ONTO THE NEXT SLIDE, TWO PROJECTS OUTSIDE OF THE MAIN POLICE STATION. WHICH AT OUR KANEOHE PLACE POLICE STATION AN KALIHI

POLICE STATION. THE KANEOHE POLICE STATION IS FOR OUR FUEL TANK IMPROVEMENTS. THAT IS FOR 1.3 MILLION FOR CONSTRUCTION AND 25,000 FOR INTERSECTION. THAT TO L UNDERGROUND FUEL STORAGE TANK TO ABOVE DID BASE OF DEAGHTD GLIENSD. 2025 SUSPECTED WATER LEAK TO THE FUEL TANK. VERIFIED. ADDITIONALLY, OF DEADLINE. MOVED TO GROUND ABOVE GROUND BY JULY 2028. THEREFORE, THIS PROJECT THESE GOLDEN TATE THAT. NECESSITATES THAT. KALIHI POLICE STATIONER PROJECT, FOR THE THAT IS FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE VENTILATION AND CIRCUMSTANCE LOTION OF AIR CIRCULATION OF AIR. IN OUR IMMENSE LOCKER ROOM. AND ALSO, MEN'S LOCKER ROOM AND OUR AREAS WITHIN THE STATION. OTHER AREAS. TDESIGN PORTION IS $75,000. AND FOR IN FISCAL YEAR '23, AND THEN FOR THIS PART WE'RE ADDING ADDITIONAL DESIGN. FUNDS WERE ALLOY KAYE THE IT PREVIOUS YEAR. BUT THE WORK DENSE COMMENCE TO TKAO* OTHER CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AT THE STATION. ALLOCATED NEEDED MORE FUNDS TO START UP THIS DESIGN AGAIN. THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DEFERRED. SINCE THERE WILL BE TWO OTHER PROJECTS THIS THE STATION PRETTY MUCH OCCURRING SAIMIN YOU WILL TAN WHY ISLY. WANT TO GET THIS SIMULTANEOUSLY WANTED TO GET THIS PROJECT GOING AGAIN. TEN LIKE WE HAD MAIN POLICE STATION WE ALSO HAVE FUNDS DEDICATED FOR UNANTICIPATED ANTICIPATE MECHANICAL PLUMBING. $100,000. USED IN ANY PHASE FOR DESIGN CONSTRUCTION OR INSPECTION. AND IT CANS WILL BE USED IF OTHER PROJECTS NEED ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

FINALLY, LAST SLIDE. SO FOR CIP EQUIPMENT, YOU'LL SEE HERE THAT THERE ARE 13 DIFFERENT TYPES OF VEHICLES FOR TOTAL OF 74 VEHICLES ALL IN CIP EQUIPMENT. AND UNLIKE THE VEHICLES THAT ARE IN OUR CURRENT EXPENSE, THESE VEHICLES HAVE A PRICE TAG OF OVER $60,000. AND EXPECT LIFE EXPECTANCY OF OVER TEN YEARS. WHEREAS THE VEHICLES IN OUR CURRENT EXPENSE HAVE A LIFE EXPECTANCY OF UNDER TEN YEARS. ALSO, DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE VEHICLES AND VEHICLES IN OUR CURRENT EXPENSE ARE THOSE ARE ALL PATROL VEHICLES. THESE ARE ALL SUPPORT VEHICLES. SO THE SIGNIFICANCE THERE IS PATROL VEHICLES, WAY THEY USE THOSE, ARE POUR RIGOROUS. MORE RIG. SOME OF THOSE VEHICLES CAN BE USED 24-7 BASIS AS AN EXAMPLE, RIGOROUS. IF USED IN THE TOWN, OR ACTUALLY EVEN THIS THE CON CUNNINGHAM FREEWAY REGIONAL DISTRICT. COUNTRYEL OFF YOUR COULDOUS THAT VEHICLE,EL DURING THE YOUR USE THE VEHICLE DURING THE DURATION OF HIS HER SHIFT. BRING THAT VEHICLE. COULD THEN BE GASSED UP. YAWFERS, ANOTHER OFFICER COULD JUMP THIS AT THAT VEHICLE AND TAKE IT OUT FOR ANOTHER 12 HOUR SHIFT. THAT VEHICLE COULD THEN BS USE FOR 24-HOUR PERIOD STRAIGHT. THAT COULD HAPPEN FOR D DIE DAYS ON END. THAT IS TYPICALLY WHY THOSE VEHICLES, ARE USED. MORE RIGOROUSLY. THAT IS KIND OF THE LIFE CYCLE OF A PA RETAIL VEHICLE. WHICH IS WHY PATROL VEHICLE. HAVE SHORTER ILLEGAL FIREWORKS SPAN THAN THESE VEHICLES, SHORTER ILLEGAL FIREWORKS SPHAN. VEHICLES IN THE CRIMINAL. -- LIFE SPAN. THESE VEHICLES ARE TYPICALLY, THEY CAN BE NOT AS EXPENSIVE BUT THESE ARE MORE SPECIALIZED

VEHICLES. THESE ARE COULD BE LIKE SST VEHICLES. VEHICLES WITH LIFTS, VEHICLES THAT PROVIDE SUPPORT TO PATROL OR OTHER SPECIALIZED UNITS. SO WE DON'T USE THEM AS RIGOROUSLY. STILL VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. THEY HAVE TYPICALLY, LONGER LIFE SPAN. LONGER LIFE EXPECTANCY. SO THEREFORE, HAD HE CAN BE UTILIZED, PURCHASED WITH AND BOS BECAUSE THE LIFE EXPECTANCY IS EVERYBODY GREATER. DEFINITELY OVER DWREERNS. WHEREAS THE LIFE EXPECTANCY FOR ONE OF OUR PATROL VEHICLES ARE NOT GOING TO LAST AS LONG. BECAUSE WE USE THEM MORE RIGOROUSLY ALTHOUGH MUST SAY, THAT OUR VEHICLES VEHICLE MAINTENANCE PERSONNEL THEY DO A VERY, VERY LENGTH JOB OF KEEPING OUR VEHICLES VERY, VERY SAFE FOR OUR OFFICER. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I AM HERE TO ANSWER I'M SEWER MULTITUDE OF QUES QUESTION I'M E MULTITUDE OF QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

Chair Okimoto: START OFFICER QUESTIONS WITH COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO. THANK YOU. Councilmember Cordero: THANK YOU CHAIR OKAMOTO. HI ABLGING CHIEF RADE VANIC. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE REST OF YOUR TIME. I THINK SEE FORMER KALIHI MAJOR ASSISTANCE CHIEF BACK IN THIS CHAMBER AGAIN. SO GOOD TO SEE HIM. SO FIRST OFF, WAS IT ONE OR TWO POLICE EVIDENCE WAREHOUSES? Testifier: SO WE'RE ASKING FOR ONE EVIDENCE WAREHOUSE. WE CURRENTLY LEASE TWO. Councilmember Cordero: CURRENTLY LEASE TWO ASKING FOR IN ADDITION IT GOT. Testifier: I ANTICIPATE ONCE WE HAVE THE ONE THAT BUILD, WE'LL BE ABLE TO STOP LEASING THE TWO.

Councilmember Cordero: THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S SUPPLEMENTS THAT. THANK YOU. I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT PEARL CITY POLICE STATION. WHEN I SAW THAT, $750,000, FOR DESIGN, PART OF THE PLANNING INCLUDING DESIGN? WASN'T IT PART PLANNING FOR THE POLICE STATION, PEARL CITY POLICE STATION, ALSO INCLUDE DESIGN ASPECT?

Testifier: YES. SO THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THE PLANNING FOR THIS AND DESIGN DOESN'T COVER THE ENTIRE AMOUNT FOR PLANNING. SO IN FUTURE FISCAL YEARS, WE ACTUALLY NEED TO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL APPLES. SO IN FISCAL YEAR '28. ADDITIONAL AMOUNTS, EVEN IN A 29, WE PLAN TO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL $2.7 MILLION TO COVER THE REST OF THE DESIGN.

Councilmember Cordero: OKAY. YEAH, I KNOW THAT ALMOST HALF THE COUNCIL, LITTLE LESS THAN HALF THE COUNCIL, DISTRICT 3 COVERS. WE HAVE COMMITTEE VIEWS CARRY OKIMOTO, COUNCILMEMBERS TUPOLA, MYSELF, AND COUNCILMEMBER WEYER. WOULD DISTRICT ARE SERVICED BY ID3. MAKE SURE THAT'S CAPACITY ISEL SUPPORTED FOR NOT JUST COMMUNITY THERE, BUT ESPECIALLY OUR OFFICE THAT ARE AT D3. I DO LOVE GOING DOWN AND MEETING ABOUT THEM ALL THE TIME. OFFICER THERE WILL FOR GOOD REASON. SOME BAD REASONS. LETTING YOU KNOW. SO MY NEXT QUESTION IS IN RELATION TO THE DILLINGHAM COLLE FOREIGN MANY THE EFFORT WITH NARCO, EFFORT WITH NARCO. STILL NARCOVICE FOR LEGAL GAMBLING ESTABLISHMENTS? I WANT IT THANK OUR COUNCIL VICE CHAIR AND AS WELL AS COUNCILMEMBER DOS SANTOS-TAM FOR THEIR WORK REALLY INCLUDING THAT, WITH HPD, BUT I CONDITION REALLY SEE MAYBE IT'S SCATTERED ACROSS YOUR BUDGET, LIKE HOW THAT NARCOVICE AND ENFORCEMENT FOR ILLEGAL GAMING, GAMBLING ESTABLISHMENTS ARE SUPPORTED.

Testifier: SO WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENTLY WAYS IN OUR BUDGET THAT WE SUPPORT. NARCOTICS VICE. SO SOME OF IF IS CAPTURED IN OUR OVER TIME BUG. A LOT OF IT ISEL APP CAP IT YOU ARID IN OUR ACTIVITY. THAT FALLS UNDER -- C CAPTURED ACTIVITY FULL TALLS UNDER INVESTIGATED EVERYONE ACTIVITY. FALL UNDER. NARCOVICE FALL FALLS UNDER. LAST FISCAL YEAR JUST UNDER THE OVER TIME, O O ALONE PORTIN 34 ILLEGAL GAMBLEEL ROOMS RATED RAID RESULTING IN 362 ILLEGAL GAMBLING MACHINE THAT WERE SEIZED. OVER 250,000 OR CLOSE TO $260,000 OF CASH SEIZED RESULTEDING IN 41 ARRESTS, 50 ARRESTS ALSO, FROM THAT OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING. SO A LOT OF THE MONIES THAT GO INTO OUR BUDGET SPECIFICALLY IN EITHER OVER TIME AND/OR INVESTIGATIVE ACTIVITIES. RESULT IN A LOT OF VERY, VERY GOOD ARRESTS WHICH RESULT IN REDUCTION OF CRIME. RELATED TO SPECIFIC ILLEGAL GAME MANY JED ROA. CORDRD COULD WANT TO MOVE ON. GAME MANY JED ROA, P25 RADIOS. GAME ROOMS. YOU MENTIONED $6.5 MILLION OF R UPGRADES. PRIOR, THAT IS CONTINUOUS REQUEST DO YOU ALSO GET, P25 RADIOS ALSO FUND THROUGH DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY? OR IS THAT JUST THEIRS THIS YOU FUND FOR YOUR OWN?

Testifier: YES. WE ALL YIESD WE PAY FOR RADIOS WE PAY FOR ARE FUNDED, COMPLETELY OUT OF OUR OPERATING BUDGET. Chair Okimoto: Councilmember Cordero: OKAY. I KNOW THAT ROUGHLY AROUND SAME AMOUNT. MAYBELY LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE LAST FA FIE FARESES. FA FISCAL E YEAR, 100 NEXT YEAR. THINGS LIKE THAT.

Testifier: YEAH. WE WANTED TO PHASE, THE REPLAYSMENT OVER RADIOS. REPLACEMENT OF OUR RADIOS TO TRY TO DO IT ALL IN ONE FISCAL YEAR WOULD HAVE BEEN TAXING NOT ONLY FOR FOR THE CITY UPON TAYLOR WISE BUT ALSO FOR OUR STAFF. MONETARILY. NUMBER TO AL LEE REPLACE THAT AMOUNT LABOR WISE WOULD BE VERY TAXING. EN WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD REPLACEMENT PLAN AND REPLACEMENT SYSTEM SO WHILE WE REPLACED SOME OF OUR RADIOS, ONCE WE HAD THOSE REPLACED, THEN WE REPLACED REST OF THEM. SO WE DID ACTUALLY REPLACE ABOUT HALF OF THEM THIS FISCAL YEAR. NOW WE'RE LOOKING THE TO HE ROA IS PLA THE OTHER HALF THAT WE DIDN'T REPLACE THIS UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR. TO REPLACE. DORIS DUKE.>>Councilmember Cord: THAWNCHTD MENTIONED TO MARRIAGE HIRONAKA ASK THIS QUESTION. IN RELATION TO, WITH HIRING RETENTION AND RECRUITMENT. I KNOW THAT WE HAD HEAVER HEAVY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT ESPECIALLY WITHIN 2021-202, 2023 AND THINK THAT WE EVEN WERE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS TO HAVE FUNDING SO HPD WOULD BE ABLE TO THEN UTILIZE THAT FOR RETENTION AND RECRUITMENT. I KNOW THAT IT'S PROBABLY, EMBEDDED WITHIN LIKE FOR YOUR HIRING. NOW, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING ITS OWN BOOK FUND. SO IS THAT EASIER TO USE. EXPLAIN LIKE WHY WE AREN'T ABLE TO JUST CYPHER ON THAT SO WE ENSURE EACH CLASS MAY BE ABLE TO GET SUPPORT -- ISIL SAFE ON -- C -- SIPHON THAT. RETENTION THAT WAY. SEPARATE RECRUITMENT AND RERETENTION BUCKET VERSUS, HAVING IT IN THE DIFFERENT AREAS. FOR HIRING.

Testifier: SURE. RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION, IS PRIORITY OF OUR DEPARTMENT. AND I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GIRCHL A SHOUT OUT TO COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA. I THINK SHE HAD THE FORESIGHT TO CREATED TASK FOREST. WHICH WE WERE A PART OF. TASK FORCE. THIS BUDGET PROCESS, IS VERY LONG PROCESS. OUR BUDGET WAS DUE TO THE DEPARTMENT OF BUDGET AND FISCAL SERVICES BACK IN OBJECTING. THE RECOMMENDATIONS CAME OUT IN DECEMBER. AND BY THEN, OUR BUDGET HAD BEEN FINALIZED. HOWEVER, THAT DOESN'T HA'INA MINA AT THAT A LOT OF-DOESN'T MEAN A LOT REGS THAT CAME OUT, AREN'T PRIORITIES OFF OURS. ONE THING THAT WE'RE ABLE TO TO, IN OUR BUDGET, IS WE'RE ABLE TO UTILIZE COST SAVINGS 2340RD TO PRIORITIZE THINGS. THAT WE AREN'T ABLE TO BUDGET THROUGH LINE ITEM. ORDER THROUGH. ONE THING WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO OVER THE YEARS ATH ALSO EVEN THIS UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR, IN WORKING WITH ACTUAL LATE LOT OF OUR COUNCILMEMBERS, AND EVEN SPECIFICALLY WITH COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA, IS SHOPO AND OTHER UNIONS LABOR UNIONS IS IDENTIFY WHICH OF THE PRIORITIES IDENTIFIED IN THE TASK FORCE REPORT, WHICH WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY FUND THROUGH COST SAFER SAVINGS MAKE SURE WE IDENTIFY THOSE, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THOSE THINGS DONE. WE HAVE IDENTIFIED NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT WE WILL BE PRIORITIZING MOVING FOIRD. SOME OF THOSE FORWARD. SOME OF THOSE HAVE DEFINITELY MADE IT INTO OUR PRIORITY MOVING FORWARD. WHILE THAT ISN'T REFLECTED,

NECESSARILY, IN OUR BUDGET. THEY HAVE BEEN AND WILL BE IDENTIFIED IN OTHER AREAS IN WRITTEN FORM AS EXAMPLE, IN OUR DEPARTMENT STRATEGIC PLAN. FOR EXAMPLE. THAT WOULD E THEN MEMBER ORIZE N FORM HOW WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD SAYING THAT OUR DEPARTMENT IS COMMITTED TO DOING THESE THINGS. MEMORIALIZE. Councilmember Cordero: THANK YOU. TO ME, THAT MEAN IT'S THAT, IT ISN'T SPECIFIC LINE ITEM WISE. ALWAYS SAY THAT LIKE SHOWING YOUR BUDGET, SHOW ME YOUR PRIORITIES. BUT I GUESS WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THAT STRATEGIC PLAN. COMING OUT WHEN?

Testifier: SO THAT IS ALSO VERY INTERESTING TOO BECAUSE WE'RE IN A INTERESTING SITUATION. WHERE WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO CHOOSE THE NEXT CHIEF OF CHIEF OFPOLICE. LITTLE TRICKY. JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. Councilmember Cordero: GOT IT. THANK YOU THANK YOU ACT BEING ACHIEVER AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR TUPOLA. TUPOLA THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO FOR YOUR THOUGHTFUL QUESTIONS. I DO WANT TO THANK NARCOVICE, WENT 26 GAME ROOMS TOWN TO SEVEN OR SIX THAT WE HAVE NOW. WHICH SEGMENT FOR US. DOWN TO SUPER-GRATEFUL. WHICH IS SIGNIFICANT FOR US IS WILL GO EVER O&M SOME THINGS SHE BROUGHT UP WITH RETENTION. GO IN ORDER. SLIDES. SO FIRST OFF, FOR THE 1 MILLION ONLINE FIRE APPLICATION, WILL HELP TO FREE UP MAYBE, CURRENTLY UNIFORM OFFICE THAT ARE DOING THAT ALLOCATION. OFFICER. CIVILIANS WILL THIS HELP TO REUP PEOPLE TO OTHER WORK? FREE UP PEOPLE DO OTHER WORK.

Testifier: I THINK THERE'S A POSSIBILITY. THINK WE HAVE TO SEER DEFINITELY MAKE THE PROCESS, MORE EFFICIENT. BEING THAT IS WILL ON LINE. YOU THINK WE HAVE TO SEE WHAT IT WILL DO PROCESS ONCE IT'S INCORPORATED I CANNOT GUARANTEE THAT IT WILL RELIEVE OFFICER. ALWAYS THE POSSIBILITIES. ONE OF OUR GOALS OBVIOUSLY IS TO MAKE WORK MORE EFFICIENT AND IF WE DO FIND 245 THAT AS A RESULT, REQUIRES LESS WORK OUR OFFICER. LIKE WHEN INDIVIDUAL COMES IN, BECAUSE ALL THE WORK ALREADY BEEN A ACCOMPLISHED AHEAD OF TIME. THAT WOULD BE ACTUALLY ONE OF THINGS WE BE ABLE TO.

Councilmember Tupola: TUPOLA COULD BE WRORNG BUT CURRENTLY IS A UNIFORM OFFICE R OFFICER DOES THE CCWS. ALWAYS THOUGHTS THAT IT SHOULD JUST BE CONTRACT HIRE OR MAYBE EVEN SEVERALIAN. IT IS CLEAR R CARL PROCESS. CLERICAL PROCESS. CERTAIN PARTS OF THE PROCESS THAT ARE CLERICAL. BUT OTHER PARTS OF THE PROCESS THAT REQUIRE UNIFORM OVER. ESPECIALLY SOME OF THE SAFETY THINGS WITH HANDLING FIREARMS AND INSPECT FIREARMS. NOT TO SAY THAT NONUNIFORMED PERSON COULDN'T DO THAT. BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD TALK I LOOK AT AS FAR AS PROCESS GOES. AND EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT WE ABSOLUTELY NEED OFFICER TO IT TUPOLA THANK YOU. 1.7 MILLION PAID FOR COMMUNICATIONS WAS THAT ONE THAT HGEA WORKED ON DIFFERENTIAL PAY?

Testifier: YES. THAT'S CORRECT. AGREEMENT WAS THAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO END, CONCLUDE AT THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, BUT YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUALS WOULD WORK IN OUR COMMUNICATION DIVISION, WORK HARD. AND THEY REALLY DESERVE TO GET PAID ACCORDINGLY. SO WEST OAHU THIS DOES IS SHOWS THEM THAT THEIR VALUED, AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO THAT. UNTIL WE CAN MAYBE RAISE THEIR PAY INSTEAD OF ADDING TO THEIR PAY. SO THIS I'M GLAD THAT THIS WAS ADDED. BY THE MAYOR AND HIS ADMINISTRATION. PRIORITIZE. THAT WE WANT TO SHOW THEM THAT WE VALUE THEM AND I'M HOPING THAT CITY COUNCIL ALSO A PROOFS THIS. APPROVES THIS.

Councilmember Tupola: I THINK HGEA NEGOTIATED THIS SO DEFINITELY I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THAT MANDATE THE OVER TILE FOR THE DISPATCHER. OVER TIME. DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TROPICAL FORCE FOR THE NEXT SHIFT MANDATED TO STAY AND COVER AT LEAST HALF WE KNOW ALREADY WORK LOTS OF OUR HOURSER APPRECIATE THEM. NEXT SLIDE. FOR THE VACANCIES FOR CIVILIAN, IS IT REALISTIC TO SAY THAT WE CAN FILL 70 POSITIONS IN FY '2027? IT SAYS THAT 19 WILL BE FILLED BEFORE JULY 1 OF THIS YEAR. BUT I DON'T KNOW THE REMOTE ORAL TESTIMONY OF 70 BEING FILLED. IN 2027. RAIL TRANREALITY.

Testifier: I BELIEVE WE CAN FILL 70. Councilmember Tupola: LET'S GO WITH THAT BELIEF. NEXT PAIN MANY I THINK UNIFORMED POSITION VACANCIES MY QUESTION ON POLICE SERVICE OFFICE, 17, THE OFFICER LEAP PROGRAM? NO. NOT.

Testifier: SO THE 17 AND THAT IS AS OF FEBRUARY 2. I BELIEVE WE ACTUALLY HIRED SEVERAL MORE IN I'M NOT MISS DAY TAKEN SINCE THEN. MISTAKEN. OUR CADETS. THOSE ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE TEST TESTED BUT NOT THEY'RE NOT ELIGIBLE. SOME ARE NOT ELIGIBLE BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T REACHED AGE YET. BUT THOSE ARE THE ONES WHO GUYS IN THE WHITE SHIRTS. ONES WHO HAVEN'T GONE INTO THE ACADEMY YET, BUT TUPOLA 16,000 A YEAR? Testifier: YES. THAT'S THE ONE. YES. THOSE ARE ONES GO IN THE HIGH SCHOOLS AND SAY, HEY.

COME JOIN US. TUPOLA AUGIE REWITHOUT CRUETING FOR YOU GUYS. A LOT OF PAY TAXPAYOR A YOUNG KID. Testifier: YEAH. A RECRUITING FOR YOU GUY. THOSE ARE THE GUYS.

Testifier: POST LEAP. IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, LIKE AS PATHWAY, IT POST LEAP PREACADEMY. RIGHT IN BETWEEN. WE'RE TRYING TO CAPTURE THOSE INDIVIDUALS WOULD ARE KIND OF IN BETWEEN WHAT WE FOUND WAS THESE INDIVIDUALS WOULD WANT TO COME IN THE DEPARTMENT, WHEN THEY GO THEIR BACKGROUND CHECK, THEY ARE MAKENA BAD DECISION RIGHT IN THAT KIND OF GAY GRAY AREA. WE WANT TO CAPTURE THEM TO MAKE GOOD DECISION. WANT TO TRAIN THEM. GIVE THEM IDEA OF THIS IS WHAT POLICE WORK IS ABOUT. SO THAT WHEN IF HE DO JOIN THE ACADEMY, IT'S NOT LIKE CULTURE SHOCK. DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GETTING INTO. END OF LEAVING.

Councilmember Tupola: I DID MENTION IT PREVIOUS HEARING. WAY FOR YOU GUYS TO PUT ON THE APP EDUCATION WHEN PEOPLE APPLY, THEY DID THESE THINGS. EXPLORE PROGRAM WHAT NOT. THESE ARE PEOPLE LIKE CARE, CARE. THEY WANT IT. SO GIVE THEM SOME PREFERENCE OR WHATNOT. NEXT QUESTION, THAT I HAVE, NONHOLIDAY OVER TIME PAY BY ACTIVITY. FOR THE OVER TIME PAY, THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING, FOR PATROL, A FNED THEN OF COURSE HOLIDAY AND NONHOLIDAY, AT ABOUT 30 MILLION. WHAT IS YOUR POLICY ON OVERTIME? I DID HAVE QUITE A FEW OFFICER ASK ME. WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE BUDGET? I HEARD WE'RE CUTTING OVER TIME MUCH FIRST I DON'T THINK WE EVER DUT OVER TIME. EVER R CUT OVER TIME. WITHIN DISTRICT TO DISTRICT, SOME DIFFERENCE E'O DIFFERENT EDDIE STANSBERRY ON HOW OVERTIME SHSHING USED OR NOT. SHALL BE USED. WHAT IS THE CURRENT POLICY OF YOU, CHIEF?

Testifier: FOR OVER TIME USAGE. DISTRICT TO DEMOCRATIC. YOUR THOUGHTS. DISTRICT TO DISTRICT. OVER TIME IS BASICALLY, DICTATED BY COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT. SHALL BE USED EQUITABLY AND FAIRLY. ACROSS THE BOARD. OBJECTING VOCESLY WE USE IT WHEN OBVIOUSLY USE IT SOMEONE CALLS IN SICK, ON VACATION, WE WANT TO, MAKE SURE THAT STAFFING IS ADD A CERTAIN LEVEL. THIS BELIEF THAT IS BEING CUT, PAY BE THAT HAS -- MAYBE THAT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE UTILIZING OVER TIME AND BEING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE. I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT'S COMING FROM.

Councilmember Tupola: YOUR STANCE FROM DISTRICT TO DISTRICT, MAJOR MAKE THE DECISION. IF IT NEEDS TO BE USED OR ABLE TO UTILIZE IT, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY CUT OVER TIME. FROM THERE. I GUESS PURVIEW? Testifier: THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S USED AS NEEDED TO ACHIEVE OPERATIONAL GOALS. THAT'S CORRECT.

Councilmember Tupola: FOR THE COMMISSION, I'M NOT GOING TO GO OVER THE OVER TIME PER SE. BUT WE'RE BUGGING 734,945 FOR THE POLICE COMMISSION. BUDGETING. I KNOW YOU GUYS SAID IT BECAUSE WE HAVE LAWYERS I WANT TO MAKE SURE MENGES FIRE COMMISSION SPENDS $23,000. SIGNIFICANTLY LESS. SO THE 734,000 FOR THE POLICE COMMISSION BECAUSE WE HAVE LAWYERS? OR IT IS LIKE ASTRONOMICALLY HIRE. MAYBE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY THE POLICE COMMISSION WOULD HAVE SUCH A BIG BUDGET. Testifier: I'M SORRY. WHERE ARE YOU LOOKING?

Councilmember Tupola: I'M IN THE BOOK. IN THIS BINDER I APOLOGIZE. THE ONE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. BUT INSIDE HONOLULU POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU GUYS BUDGET FOR POLICE COMMISSION. YOU HAVE TO GET BACK ON TO ME ON THAT, YOU CAN. ALWAYS BEEN A QUESTION IN MIND WHY IT'S SO MUCH.

Testifier: I CAN TELL YOU JUST ANECDOTALLY TYPICALLY 734,000 IS SPENT FOR LIKE THE SALARY FOR INVESTIGATORS. SPENT FOR THE SALARY FOR THEIR CIVIL OVER. THEY HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF OFFICER. DIFFERENT TYPE OF TRAVEL AND TRAINING THEY DO HAVE A STAFF. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I CAN LOOK PHO FLOOR IT AND GET BACK TO YOU. LOOK NOR MY IT. Councilmember Tupola: BEST IF I JUST ASK THE CHAIR THE COMMISSION FOR A BREAKDOWN? DOESN'T BEGIN US BREAK DOWN HERE. JUST GENERAL. Testifier: NO PROBLEM.

Councilmember Tupola: THEN OFFICE OF NATIONAL DRUG CONTROL YOU GUYS HAVE SSFY2027, 1.5. ONE TIME OR DO YOU GUYS ON GOINGLY, FUND OFFICERS OF NATIONAL DRUG CONTROL POLICY I'M ON PAGE 12. Testifier: OFFICE OF OFFICE. 1.5. Councilmember Tupola: YES. I WANT TO KNOW IF IT'S LIKE A ONE-TIME, MAYBE WE HAD FEDERAL FUNDS NOW WE DON'T. WHAT IS THAT ABOUT?

Testifier: REMOTE ORAL TESTIMONY, REALITY

Testifier: YES. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT HHAIDTA IS. HIGH INTENSITY DRUG TRACK AREA. SO THAT TRACKING AREA. THAT'S THEIR, TRAFFICKING. EXPENSES FOR THAT PARTICULAR FISCAL YEAR. AND THEN THAT IS THE AMOUNT THAT IT COMES OUT TO. 1.585 TUPOLA NOT FEDERALLY FUND, ALWAYS THROUGH YOU GUYS GENERAL FUNDS THAT WE DO THAT?

Testifier: THAT'S THE FEDERAL MONIES THAT ALLOTTED FOR DWSH-TUPOLA FEDERAL MONEY GIVEN FOR THAT PROGRAM SPHIRKS .>>Testifier: THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S FOR THAT PARTICULAR FUNCTION. TUPOLA GOT IT. LASTLY, FOR SOME OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT I'LL BE SUGGESTING, I JUST WANT TO THE MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THEY'RE NOT A LOT. BUT YOU THO THEY'RE NECESSARY AND I KNOW LIKE HOW I SAID YOU HAD TO DO THIS PRIOR TO THE CONCLUSION OF THE TASK FORCE, I WILL BE SUGGESTING WE DO REFERRAL BONUS RETENTION BONUS, ANNIVERSARY BONUSES AS WELL AS CIVILIAN PARKING. I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE. I THINK IT WILL HELP. I APPRECIATE THE NUMBERS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE GOTTEN IT DOWN TO. GOT POUR WORK TO DO ON THE BACK END. BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE HAVE GUYS COME, WE HAVE GUYS RETIRE TOO. GOT MORE WORK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN ADVANCE ON ANY OF THOSE. MAHALO ACHIEVER. THANK YOU CHIEF.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO. KIA'AINA SORE. TUPOLA. SORE. TUPOLA. COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA.

Councilmember Kia'aina: I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. ALOHA. EVERYBODY. ALOHA CHIEF AND AS WELL AS YOUR TEAM. JUST COUPLE OF COMMENTS. FIRST, KUDOS TO YOUR FISCAL TEAM. FOR GETTING THINGS UNDER CONTROL. ESPECIALLY WITH REGARD TO THE LAPSED FUNDS. PHENOMENAL. TO GET IT DOWN TO $2 MILLION. ALSO, APPRECIATE THE DECREASE IN THE EQUIPMENT. I FEEL THAT UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP, AS WELL AS YOUR MANAGEMENT TEAM, THAT HPD OVERALL IS STABILIZING THE SHIP. SO COUPLE OF COMMENTS, NUMBER ONE, I AM CONFIDENT IF YOU LOOK AT THE CIVILIAN VACANT POSITIONS, AND INCLUDING THE UNIFORM, BECAUSE R BECAUSE YOU HAVE RECRUITS TRAINING IN TRAINING 152, SO THE NET UNIFORM IS 29 NEED TO FILL IN 2027, 29. 129 NEED TO FILL. WOULDN'T THAT BE TERRIFIC? I WANT TO SAY COMBATE TO YOUR RECRUITMENT TEAM AND ALL, FOR THE TASK FORCE WHICH COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA HELPED TO SHEPHERD. I MENTIONED IT BEFORE BUT I'LL SAY IT AGAIN. BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF ELEMENTS THAT PEOPLE WOULD LOVE TO IMPLEMENT. I AM PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN ANY KOKUA HOUSING FRONT. FOR OUR OFFICER. EVEN IF IT'S PEARL HARBORED. SO MEASURED. YOU GUYS CURRENT DID ATE LO ALL OF YOU GUYS HAVE THE HOLD EYE THE LINE BASED ON YOUR DIRECTIVE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION ADMINISTRATION. HAVE TO HOLD ALIGNMENT THAT'S AN A AREA OF INTEREST. THAT'S R TH THAT'S ALL WANTED TO SAY. MAHALO TO O ALL OF YOU.

Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: START WITH SLIDE 18. THIS IS THE VEHICLES. I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A APPLECY ABOUT TRYING TO REPLACE VEHICLES AFTER CERTAIN AGE. BUT LAST YEAR, WHEN WE WERE ANALYZING HPD BILL GATES REQBUDGET REQUEST, ONE VEHICLE,D HAD 1676, 2016, FORD TAURUS OMG REPORT TO HAVE 1,162 MILES ON IT. HAVE WE DONE THE DEEP DIVE ON WHICH, VEHICLES ACTUALLY NEED TO BE REPLACED VERSUS A OVERALL POLICY OF TEN YEARS OR OLDER SURF O.

Testifier: YES. SO OUR VEHICLE REPLACE. IS CONDUCTED BY OUR VEHICLE MAINTENANCE SUPERINTENDENT. WHO IS BEEN WITH OUR DEPARTMENT FOR I WANT TO SAY LIKE, 87, NO. 30 I WANT TO SAY MAYBE P 32, 3 YEARS. BEEN DOING OUR SEEK REPLACEMENT VEHICLE REREPLACEMENT NUMBER OF DIFFERENT YEAR. NUMBER OF DIFFERENT, NUMBER OF YEARS ALSO THIS THE FIELD OF VEHICLE MAINTENANCE. AND I THINK BESIDES JUST MAGMA OF VEGAN, NUMBER OF MANAGE OF VEHICLE. NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FASHION FACTOR. NOT A EXPERT IN THE VEHICLE WHEN HE NIES ♪TO REPLACED NEEDS TO BE REPLACED OTHER FACTORS BEHIND JUST MANAGEMENT MANY VEHICLE, WHEN IT NEEDS TO REPLACED. REALLY DON'T WANT TO GET INTO, WHY THAT PARTICULAR VEHICLE EITHER WAS OR WASN'T OR BUT, I GUESS MY RESPONSE WOULD BE THAT IF SHE AS AN EXPERT IN HER FIELD, IS TELLING ME THAT THE VEHICLE NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, THAT ME AS THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THE DEPARTMENT.

Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: I UNDERSTAND THAT. OUR JOB HERE IS TO ANALYZE ALL OF THESE REQUEST AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT IS BEING REQUESTED IS IT ACTUALLY NEEDED. AND SO THAT LEADS ME TO MY NEXT QUESTION ABOUT THAT PAGE. I FIRST SOME OF THESE VEHICLES REQUIRE CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS TO BE READY FOR MORE TACTICAL USES. BUT PASSENGER MINIVAN, 8 THOUSAND DOLLARS, JUST WANT TO SERVCO TAYLOR WEBSITE. 8CN ON THEIR LOT. MOST EXPENSIVE ONE IS $50,000. 2. $50,002,145. ASKING FOR $85,000 HERE. $50,145. LOOKING AT THE VEHICLE EXISTENCE EXPENSE SEEMS LIKE THIS MIGHT BE PADDED. THIS MIGHT BE A LOT LIKE TO UNDERSTAND CLEARLY, WHY SOMETHING LIKE PASSENGER MINIVAN I DON'T THINK REALLY HAS SIGNIFICANT TANG CAL NEEDS THAT TACTICAL NEEDS GO ABOVE AND BEYOND WHEN YOU COULD GET AT SERVCO OR TOYOTA OR ANY OTHER DEALERSHIP. $85,000 SEEMS LOCK LIKE A LOT. SO MANIES LIKE A LOT SEEMS LIKE A LOT.

Testifier: READ YOU SOME OF THE SUBSCRIPTIONS THAT I HAVE HERE. SO FOR EXAMPLE, TRANSIT VAN OF OUR SUPPORT SERVICES, OUR SPECIAL IDENTIFIED SERVE ADVICE DIVISION, SPECIALIZED, IS TAKE CAL VAN FOR USE THAT REQUIRES AVOIDING OF DETE DID HE DETECTION. OPERATION. CARGO VANS ELEVATED IMPROVING SURROUNDING VISIBILITY ALLOWING FOR EASY INTRY AND EXIT OFFICER DAUNTING FULL FACT TAIL GEAR. PROVIDES FOR THE RAPID TRANSIT PORTER SEVERAL TEAMS TO ONE LOCATION INSTEAD OF HAVING OFFICER ARRIVE AC ACCEPT SEPARATELY. MEANS OF STORING TACTICAL EQUIPMENT AND WEAPONRY CREDITED CULTURAL FOR OUR, SPECIAL IDENTIFIED SERVICE.

Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: I UNDERSTAND APPRECIATE THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT THESE VEHICLES MAY SEEM LIKE, THEY ARE R THEY'RE STOCK AND OFF THE I GUESS PRODUCTION LINE. BUT THESE ARE VEHICLES THAT GETTING THAT SUPPORT VERY CRITICAL USES AND A SOME OF THESE I MEAN, THESE ARE THE COSTS THAT WE'RE BEING TOLD THAT'S HOW MUCH THINK COST. I'M THE NO YOU ARE CENTRAL OAHU IF YOU'RE MAYBE SEEING WE'RE PADDING THE COST. I DON'T THINK THAT DWSH GIVE TOO MANY TAM CERTAINLY A VERY EXPENSIVE REQUEST. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE, AS MAYOR HAS SAID, LEAN BUDGET YEAR. EXACTLY MAY IS BEING ASKED FOR IS EXACTLY WHAT NEEDED. AND AND IF SEEMS LIKE THIS 7.55 MILLION R MILLION DOLLARS EQUIPMENT ACQUISITION CAPITAL BUDGET LINE ITEM IS WHOLE LOT. I WOULD LIKE IT DIG INTO THAT MORE. VIA WRITTEN QUESTIONS. TO MAKE SURE THAT EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE CANCELING FOR IS EXACTLY WHAT IS NEEDED. I GUESSWORKING BACKYARD THROUGH THE SLIDE. ON PAGE 12 LIST NUMBER OF FEDERAL AGENCIES WITH WHICH FROM WHICH WE RECEIVED FUNDING. I NOTICE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY IS NOT LISTED. IS THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T RECEIVE ANY MONEYS FROM DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY?

Testifier: THAT'S CORRECT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY GRANTS THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF HOME AND LA SECURITY. Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: HOMELAND SECURITY. Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: OKAY. ON SLIDE TEN, MISCELLANEOUS REVENUE LINE I'M, SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER ITEM. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU EXPLAIN THAT PREVIOUS QUESTION. Testifier: I'M SORRY. WHICH.

Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: SLIDE TEN. MISCELLANEOUS. FY '25. ACTUAL WAS 3.45 MILLION. ESTIMATED LAST YEAR 2.1 MILLION. AND IT YEAR, AT 557,000. Testifier: FROM FY '25 ACTUAL TO THIS YEAR'S ESTIMATE, 3 MILLION. THAT'S HALF THE VEHICLES. Testifier: YES. WHAT I'M BEING TOLD IS JUST THE PROJECTION AS YEAR GOES ON, IT COULD GO UP. BUT FOR NOW, THAT IS JUST OUR PROJECTION.

Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: AGAIN, IN LEAN BUDGET YEAR WANT TOO MAKE SURE THAT OUR EXPEND REVENUES ARE REFLECTIVE CURRENT CONDITIONS P EXPECTED. 25 ACTUAL WAS 3.4 MILLION. 26 ESTIMATE 2.1 MILLION SEEMS LIKE LARGE DIFFERENCE. PROBABLY MATERIAL REASON FOR THIS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND TO MAKE SURE THAT, IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE CANCELING FOR YOUR OVERALL-ASKING FOR OVERALL BUDGET. OVERALL REVENUES ARE COMMENSURATE AS WELL. ON SLIDES 6 THROUGH 9, I KNOW WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OVER TIME. IF KUHIO TALK A LOT ABOUT OVER TIME. THESE SLIDES SIMPLY SHOW REQUESTED FOR THIS YEAR. IS FINE. ABOUT PRESENTATION. SHOWS AMOUNTED THAT WE THE PROOFED LAST YEAR. WHICH KNOW THAT. ALWAYS WE ARE ALL SITTING HERE DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS LAST YEARS. HOW MUCH WAS APPROPRIATED. HOW MUCH ACTUALLY BEEN SPENT OUT OF THE FY '26 APPROPRIATION? ARE WE CLOSE TO BEING ON TRACK?

Testifier: ACTUALLY FOR APPROPRIATION, WE ARE OVER THAT AMOUNT. Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: OVER THAT AMOUNT. WHY ARE WE NOT ASKING FOR MORE KNOWING THAT WE'RE ALREADY OVER FROM LAST YEAR. AND KNOWING THAT WE HAVE SO MANY VACANCIES THAT WE NEED TO BE COVERING THROUGH OVER TIME.

Testifier: SO WORKING WITH DEPARTMENT OF BUDGET AND FISCAL SERVICES, WE'RE ACTUALLY TOLD THAT THE WAY WE'RE SUBMITTING OUR BUDGET, MORE, BETTER TO DO IT THAT WAY. IT ALLOWS US FOR, TO UTILIZE THE FUNDS MORE FLUIDLY. WHEN WE DO IT THAT WAY. Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: SO IF WE HAVE SPENT MORE MONEY ONION OVER TIME. THAN WAS APPROPRIATED FROM LAST YEAR. ON OVER TIME. WHERE DOES THAT DIFFERENCE COME FROM? Testifier: COMES FROM THE VACANCY.

Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: FROM SALARY SAVINGS AND VACANCY SIDE. WHY WE NEED TO BE LOOKING CAREFULLY HULA OF THESE PIECE FIT TOGETHER. THROUGHOUT THIS BUDGET PROCESS. HAVE ONE OTHER AREA OF QUESTIONING. ON SLIDE 3. FOR THE ONLINE FIREMEN APPLICATION. PROCESS. WHICH FIREARM. THIS YEAR SOCIAL DISTANCING FOR A MILLION DOLLARS. -THIS YEAR ASKING $3 MILLION. LAST YEAR ASKED MILLION DOLLARS. PREEMPTED 300,000 IT'S DO YOU USE ANY OF THE 3 HINOW U HUNDRED THOUSAND APPROPRIATED LAST YEAR FOR THINGS 300,000, PLANNING DEVELOPMENT. ARE U ET CETERA. TO SUPPORT THIS. Testifier: YES OF WE DID. CURRENTLY OUT T FOR BID. Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: IS THE BID DEADLINE FOR THAT?

Testifier: I IT'S MID APRIL. Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: ARE WE DOING STR AOPPORTUNITY TO SEE HOW MUCH, THE PERCENT PROTZMAN PROSPECTIVE BIDDERS ESTIMATED? A MILLION DOLLARS SEEMS LOOK A LOT SORT OF LICENSES IS I TELL WHEN YOU COMPARE TO THE OTHER LICENSE IS IT ISSUES? LIQUOR COMMISSION. OTHER JURISDICTIONS. AS WELL. CITY ISSUES. Testifier: WHEN THE SLIT SOLICITATIONS COME IN. WE'LL KNOW THE BID AMOUNT.

Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: AGAIN. I WONDER WHETHER, THIS ACTUALLY IS REFLECTIVE OF HOW MUCH IT ACTUALLY COSTS GIVEN THAT OTHER AGENCY IT'S DO PERMITTING LIQUOR COMMISSION,EL SPENDING $185,000 A YEAR ON THEIR LICENSING UPGRADES. ROBUST AND BASICALLY BOTTOM UP, MARYLAND STATE OF MARYLAND, HAS PRETTY ROBUST FIREARM REGISTRATION SCHEME. THAT COSTS THEM $4.2 MILLION. TO IMPLEMENT. THAT INCLUDED 35 POSITIONS. SOFTWARE ITSELF COULD NOT HAVE BEEN ALL OF THAT MUCH. I AGAIN WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE'RE GIVING A MILLION DOLLARS TO THIS WOO GERTING PRODUCT THAT IS ACTUALLY MILLION DOLLARS. WE'RE GETTING I PRODUCT ACTUALLY MILLION DOLLARS UMPLET.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. MAYBE YOU COULD EXPLAIN, NONE NOT IN THIS SET, TO DMT, ANY OF US, ASSUMING THAT PRO ET CETERA IS DIFFERENT. TO COUNCILMEMBER DOS SANTOS-TAM. FROM THE PERMITS FOR LIQUOR VERSUS FIREARM LICENSE. MAYBE THAT IS PART OF PROCESS. MAYBE IF YOU COULD EXPOUND ON THAT, REASON FOR THE HIGHER NUMBER COUNCILMEMBER DOS SANTOS-TAM IS ASKING. Testifier: SPEAK TO WHAT GOES IF THE LIQUOR LICENSING. I CAN TELL YOU THAT BASED THE NUMBERS INITIAL NUMBERS THAT WE GOT, FOR THE ESTIMATED COSTS, TO SEE HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST, TO IMPLEMENT, SYSTEM LIKE THAT, THAT IS THE APPROXIMATE HAGS THAT WE GOT. WHICH TOLD US HOW MUCH TO REQUEST. SO I'M NOT SURE.

Chair Okimoto: NEW SYSTEM OR CURRENT SYSTEM DISCONTINUING? IF YOU SYSTEM OR CURRENT SYSTEM. DINE-IN THIS CURRENT SYSTEM FOR THE LICENSE? OR CONTINUE THE. Testifier: COMPLETELY NEW SYSTEM. IS ANTONIO WILLIAMS DOESN'T CURRENTLY EXIST. WOULD BE KILLED BID SYSTEM FROM-BUILD SYSTEM FROM SCRATCH. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. COUNCILMEMBER WEYER,.

Councilmember Weyer: THANK YOU CHAIR. AND JUST THREE THINGS. MAHALO DHEEFER AND MAHALO FOR HAVING YOUR WHOLE TEAM HERE. WANTED TO FIRST THANK YOU JUST FOR COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY AND CONTINUING TO HAVE OPEN DIALOGUE PARTICULARLY WITH NONPROFITS. DURING THESE TIMES. GETTING ACCURATE INFORMATION. VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. I THINK BY MYSELF. OUR OFFICE AND OUR COMMUNITY. TO JUST WORK, THAT YOUR OFFICER ARE DOING AND ALL OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. ON THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE. I KNOW WE'RE COMING UP ON SOME STORMS. LAST TIME WITH THE CRAZINESS WE HAD OUR FIRST ROY AND SPOERS OUT THERE DOING WARNINGS, GETTING PEOPLE ALERTED. AND EVACUATE AND SO SUPER GRATEFUL FOR THAT. JUST FINALLY EXTREMELY GRATEFUL FOR ALL YOU HAVE OUR PATROL OFF OFFICER, ALL TEAMS, COMMUNITY POLICEING TEAM. JUST BEING RESPNSIVE TO THE COMMUNITY. FREQUENTLY TALK WITH THE COMMUNITY, ABOUT HOW FOLKS CAN'T BE EVERYWHERE AT ALL TIMES. AND SO JUST NG ABLE TO SEE THE FLOP ON ISSUES THAT DO COME UP, AND HELPS COMMUNITY REALLY SEE LIKE, FOLKS, HPD BUT ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS, PAYING ATTENTION. RAYA R RESPOND SPIRIT OF GOD, IF IT'S EMERGENCY, RESPONDING.

IF IT'S EMERGENCY, ADDRESSED RIGHT AWAY. SO WE ARE SEEING COMMUNITY BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT THE AND I THINK A LOT OF THAT IS BECAUSE OF JUST HARD WORK OF YOUR MEN AND WOMEN. WANED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT. MAHALO CHAIR. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER WEYER. KAPU BREAKERS. Councilmember Tulba: THANK YOU CHAIR EMERITUS. COFFEE. AND ALOHA GUYS. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU CHAIR. IN TERMS LINE ITEM BUDGET, YOU FOLKS BIGGEST VACANCY CUT BACK. SO ACTUALLY TRY TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT CUT BACKS WERE CALCULATE THE. YOUR BUDGET LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE ACTUALLY INTRIGUE YOUR SALARY BUGS EVEN THOUGH ADMIN CUTS CUT16 MILLION. I GUESS YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE VACANCY CUT BACKS SURF.

Testifier: TIGHT BUT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT WORK. GOING TO REQUIRE US TO BE MORE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR PART TOKITO MAKESURE WE CONTINUE TO P HONOLULU SAFE. TUBE COMING FROM VACANT POSITIONS THAT YOU KNOW WON'T BE FILLING? Testifier: YOU KNOW, WE'LL STILL BE ABLE TO FILL POSITIONS THAT WE NEED TO FILL. WE'RE JUST GOING FOR MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING IT MORE WITH LESS. TU>>Councilmember Tulba: TUBE OKAY. OUT OF TRANSPARENCY, 7 MILLION FOR POLICE CAR, COMING OUT OPERATING BUDGET, HOW MANY CARSEL OUT OF THAT? 7 MILLION FOR POLICE CARS?

Testifier: WE ANTICIPATE THAT TO BE ABOUT 60 PLUS VEHICLES. Councilmember Tulba: OKAY. THANK YOU. SPHA THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER TULBA. COMMITTEE VIEWS CHAIR NISHIMOTO. Vice Chair Nishimoto: THANK YOU. NO QUESTIONS. I'LL EMAIL CHIEF IN THE INTEREST OF TIME. Chair Okimoto: OKAY. CHAIR WATERS.

Councilmember Waters: BRIEFLY WANT TO ECHO THE COMMENTS THAT CPK MADE. I THINK YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB. YOUR TEAL. APPRECIATE THE MEETING THAT WE HAD. YOUR TEAM. LAST WEEKING I DID COUPLE QUESTIONS, ONE RENTAL RENTAL REO VACANCY AND SECOND RELATING TO OVER TIME. BASED ON YOUR SLIDE DECK. WITH THE CIVILIAN VACANT POSITION, IF YOU'RE GOING TO FILL LOOKS LIKE 89 POSITIONS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME VACANCY SAVINGS. WHATS TO AT THAT EQUATE TO? FIRST, MONEY WISE, DOLLAR WISE. AND THEN SECONDLY, DO YOU PLAN OR DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANS TO SPEND THAT MONEY?

Testifier: YOU KNOW I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER OFFHAND. DO SOME CHAL CALCULATIONS I CAN GET BACK TO YOU. TYPICALLY, WE UTILIZE THE COST SAVINGS FOR NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS. I CAN TELL YOU THAT A LOT OF THE COST SAVINGS TYPICALLY GO TO FUND DIFFERENT PROJECTS. OVER TIME. OBVIOUSLY, BUT NOT ONLY OVER TIME, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, WE DO OTHER THINGS. BUT TYPICALLY, IT'S OVER TIME. OVER TIME UTILIZED FOR TO REDUCE CRIME. FOR CRIME SUPPRESSION. FOR CIVILIAN AND WE KNOW IT'S IN THOSE PARTICULAR ACTIVITIES, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S COMING OUT OF ACTIVITIES THAT ARE IN LIKE OUR ADMINISTRATIVE OR SPECIAL BUREAUS, ADMINISTRATIVE, THEN WE'LL ALOOT LIES THEM FOR THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. UTILIZE, ALSO WHERE HE CAN UTILIZE THEM TO CREATE CONTRACTS WORK POSITIONS, OR FILL CONTRACT POSITIONS. SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE THINGS AS FAR AS ACTUAL NUMBERS, MONEY, GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT IS. AND THEN I CAN GET BACK TO YOU.

Councilmember Weyer: THANK YOU. DO R I KNOW SOME DEPARTMENTS USE THE SALARIES SAVINGS TO PAY VACATION PAYOUT. NOT VACATION. BUT WHEN PEOPLE RETIRE. I GUESS IT'S CALLED VACATION PAYOUTS AT THE END. IS THAT PART OF WHAT USED? Testifier: IT COULD BE. YEAH. THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION THAT WE CAN UTILIZE THAT FOR.

Councilmember Waters: MAYBE THIS A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION. FOR BMPLES BFS. BUT THERE'S 28.4 MILLION DOLLARS IN THE PROVISION FOR SALARY ADJUSTMENTS AND VACATION PAYOUT US. JUST CURIOUS, IF YOU FOLKS ARE ABLE TO TAP THAT ACCOUNT IN ORDER TO PAY ESPECIALLY FOR THE CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES. AGAIN, MAYBE THAT'S GOD QUESTION FOR BF BFS. Testifier: GOOD QUESTION. I'LL LET YOU KNOW. I THINK WE'RE STILL DISCUSSING IT.

Councilmember Waters: OKAY. PROVISION FOR SALARY ADJUSTMENTS AND VACATION PAYOUTS, NOT IN YOUR BUG. BUDGET. MAYBE BUDGET. MOVING TO THE NEXT SLIDE, ON PAGE 5, THANK YOU FOR THIS BREAK DOWN OF THE 448 VACANT POSITIONS, OF WHICH 152 ARE RECRUITS, 17 ARE POLICE SERVICE OFFICER. AND THEN THE NET UNIFORM VACATION VACANCIES 279. DO DO YOU HAVE A DOLLAR OOMENT AEG AMOUNT? WHAT KIND MONEY ARE WE ATTACKING ABOUT. 278 VACANTINGS POSITION. WHAT DOES THAT EQUAL? VACANT POSITIONS?

Testifier: DOLLAR AMOUNT. I CAN PROBABLY TELL CALCULATE. ASK ME MAYBE ABOUT FIVE MORE QUESTIONS. Councilmember Waters: OKAY. IF YOU CAN GET BACK TO US, LATER. THAT'S FINE. THEN I GUESS MY SALMAH QUESTION, WHAT DO YOU SAME QUESTION. WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE MONEY FROM THESE VACANCY SAVINGS? SAME, OVER TIME? AND OTHER PRIORITIES? Testifier: YES. SAME. SO WE WOULD UTILIZE THAT PROBABLY FOR OVER TIME. TO CREATE CONTRACT POSITIONS. CRIME SUPPRESSION. FOR DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROJECTS. VACATION AGAIN, PAYOUTS. Chair Okimoto:

Councilmember Waters: THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SPECIFICALLY BUDGETED OR THAT'S WHERE YOU COME TO THE COUNCIL FOR FOR THE RESOLUTION TO MOVE FUNDS AROUND? Testifier: EXACTLY. SO IF WE DO FIND THAT SPECIAL EMS SHORTAGE A, ESPECIALLY SORE AJ FOR R EXAMPLE IN PATROL. PATROL ACTIVITY GET LAST FISCAL YEAR. WHICH WILL PROBABLY DO AGAIN. IN THE FOURTH QUARTER THIS FISCAL YEAR. YOU'LL SEE US ASKING FOR RESOLUTION TO MOVE MONIES FROM ONE ACTIVITY TO ANOTHER AJ TUTU. ACTIVITY TO COVERMENT THAT'S WHERE THE MONIES ARE COMING FROM.

Councilmember Waters: TEEING DEALING WITH OVER TIME. LOOKS LIKE IT'S ABOUT $40 MILLION OF OVER TIME. IN THE BUDGET. IS THAT STIES YOU CANY BUDGETED -- SPECIFICALLY BUBBLING B E'O BUDGETED LINE ITEM FOR OVER TIME. I'M SURE IT'S DONE BY, ACTIVITY. 40 MILLION? IS THAT ACCURATE? Testifier: PRETTY CLOSE. YES. WATERS HOLIDAY OVER TIME AND NONHOLIDAY OVER TIME?

Testifier: YOU KNOW, YES. IT'S ABOUT 33 AND THEN A LITTLE BIT 12, SO A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT. OBJECTING WATERS THIS CAME UP WHICH GUESS CHIEF BALLARD FEW YEARS AGO. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S STILL THE CASE. NOT SURE WHAT THE LEVEL OF STAFFING WAS. BUT, I REMEMBER CONVERSATION WE HAD WHERE WHETHER IT'S 80%, 75%, OR 70%, I THINK BACK THEN, CHIEF BALLARD HAD GUIDELINE THAT IF YOU GO BELOW 70%, THAT IS WHEN YOU CALL IN OFFICE DO OVER TIME. DO YOU HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF POLICY AND IF SO, IS THAT AT 70, 75 OR *8 0 ANY OTHER NUMBER?

Testifier: WHICH DO. SO WE DO. THAT NUMBER IS 70%. KIND OF ACROSS THE BOARD. AND QUEENING ON WHICH DISTRICT YOU'RE N SO, IF YOU DEPEDGED. LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT NUMBERS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF BEATS IN EACH DISTRICT, NUMBER MAY BE A LULL BIT HIGHER. SO SAY FOR EXAMPLE, THAT NUMBER WOULD BE LIKE 69. ONE DISTRICTMENT JUST BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER. THIS IF WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY NOT GOING TO LEASH IT AT OF 9. WOULD BE ONE EXTRA OVER. SO THEN, IN THAT PARTICULAR DISTRICT, MIGHT BE LIKE 73. Councilmember Waters: COMMANDER OF EACH DISTRICT, TO DO THEY SET THAT? AMOUNT?

Testifier: PERCENTAGE BEFORE THEY CALL IN OFFICER TO DO OVER TIME. WAIKIKI, I WOULD IMAGINE HIGHER THAN CHINATOWN. MIGHT BE HIGHER THAN OTHER DISTRICTS. E ON THAT NUC GENERAL NUMBER, AT THAT NUMBER ISN'T THE NUMBER THAT WE'RE STRIFEINGER FOR. THAT'S THE MINIMUM NUMBER. THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT ON FRIDAY NIGHT, AND YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE BUSY,. Emcee: R STRIVING FOR, ONLY GOING TO BRING IN 70%.

Testifier: I'M GOING TO BRING IN 100% OR I'M GOING TO BRING IN 90% BECAUSE I KNOW, THAT OFFICER ARE GOING TO BE SUPER-BUSY. OR I MAY HAVE 90% OF UNIFORM PA COTTRELL. ALSO GOING TO HAVE CAREER. BIKE DETAIL. SO ON PAPER, OR NUMBER OF BEATS FILLED, I'M FIELD GOAL TO HAVE BEEN AT 80%. 75 OR WHATEVER IT IS. BUT THAT DOESN'T REFLECT TOTAL NUMBER OF OFFICER WORKING. THAT'S JUST NUMBER OF OFFICES NUMBER OF BEATS I HAVE FILLED. Councilmember Waters: I SEE. IMAGINE IT WOULD FLUCTUATE DEPENDING ON EXTERNAL EVENTS. IF THERE IS PRESIDENT IN TOWN.

Testifier: YEAH. MOST DEFINITELY. OR IF I GOT PARADE GOING ON, OR IF I GOT SOMETHING GOING ON IN CHINATOWN, OR DEFINITELY IF THERE'S BAD WEATHER TODAY. OR EVEN THE DAY OF THE WEEK. IT WILL VARY. Councilmember Waters: OKAY. THINK THAT'S ALL YOU I HAVE FOR NOW. THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: THANK I CHAIR WATERS. COUPLE OF FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS BEFORE I ASK MEMBERS IF THEY ANY VEKD SECOND ROUND. LISLIDE BYSLIDE. CURIOUS PAGE 5. NICE TRIES TO SURPRISE UNIFORM VACANCIES DOLLING DOWN. KNIT NUMBER. COMING DOWN MANY I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND, MAUI EDGED COME FROM HAVE RECRUITS. YOU MENTIONED CURRENTLY IN TRAINING, FOURTH LAUNCH ACADEMY. COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA TAD ABOUT THE POLICE SERVICE OFFICE. KA GETS SO CADETS WITH THESE NUMBERS, THAT YOU HAVE BROUGHT DOWN, 448 TO 279, HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE RECRUIT FROM DAY ONE OF RECRUIT TRAINING, THROUGH THE FTO AND FOURTH WATCH TO PASS PROBATIONARY PERIOD AND THEN BECOME A PATROL OVER. FOCUS HAS BEEN FOR YEARS NOW. PATROL OFFICER. THAT NUMBER.

Testifier: VERY TYPICALLY PEEKING, WITHOUT GETTING INTO DETAILS, TYPICALLY TAKES ABOUT 18 MONTHS FOR ONCE THEY GET HIRED. OFFICER START ACADEMY TO GET, INTO A PERMANENT ASSIGNMENT. Chair Okimoto: RECRUITS TRAINING, 152, ALL STAY WILL THESE POSSIBLY IF THEY'RE PROBATION, FOLLOW AWAY OR NOT PASS CERTAIN THING? THEIR SET AND THEY'RE IN THE DEPARTMENT? JUST WAITING TO HAVE THEM GO INTO PATROL? IS THAT CORRECT?

Testifier: SO THE 152, THERE IS A SMALL CANS THAT SOME OF THOSE VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE. COULD POTENTIALLY LEAVE THE DEPARTMENT. FOR THE MOST PART, WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS BETWEEN 5 TOO 10% A FACIAL RECOGNITION RATE. A TRUMP ADMINISTRATION RATE. IT.

Chair Okimoto: THANK. -- A TRUMP ADMINISTRATION RATE. -- AT ATTRITION RATE. ACTUALLY SEE NUMBERS TO COME FRUITION. I HAD ANOTHER, QUESTION ON PAGE 10, I THINK ANOTHER CALL. COUNCILMEMBER DOS SANTOS-TAM MENTIONED. I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THIS POMISCELLANEOUS. YOU DID MENTION THAT FOR THE REVENUE SOURCE. THAT WAS A PROJECTED. MAY GO HIGHER. TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, THIS IS FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, SUNDRY ITEMS. IS THAT CORRECT? WHAT IS THE SOURCE OF REF MEW? UNDER MISCELLANEOUS. REVENUE,.

Testifier: SORRY. HEALTH CARE WORKERS OF SO -- THAT'S CORRECT. SPECIFICALLY, IS FALLS UNDER SUNDRY. THAT'S MAJORITY OF WHAT IT IS. SUNDRY VACATION, ACCUMULATION DEPOSITS. EVEN AUCTION SAIL SALE. SUNDRY REFUNDS ARE GRANT REIMBURSEMENTS AND THOSE ARE BASED OFFICER OF, TIMELINES OF ONE WHEN WE RECEIVE REIMBURSEMENTS. SO IF WE RECEIVE REIMBURSEMENT, OUTSIDE OF THE FISCAL YEAR, THEN THAT MONEY DOES NOT GO TBHOOK OUR BUDGET. IT GOES INTO THE GENERAL FUND. THAT'S JUST RULES. SO LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE FREFOREXAMPLE I SPEND I HOLD D IEWVMENT.

Vice Chair Nishimoto: ROAD BLOCK IN APRIL. AND WE PAY THE OFFICER WHO ARE PATY PARTICIPATING IN THAT ROAD BLOCK. DUI IN THE MIDDLE OF MAY, I APPLY FOR THAT'S FED MONIES FEDERAL MONIES COMES O OUT OF OUR BUDGET. SO WE WOULD PAY SALARY. WE APPLY TO GET BREWERS R REUTERSED BUT GET REIMBURSED SAY JULY 15. REUP E'O BILL USED OUTSIDE DECREASE BIE REIMBURSED. MONEY DOESN'T BACK TO USE. GOES CITY GENERAL FUND.

Chair Okimoto: THAT WAS BIGGEST MOST NOTABLE. DECLINE IN THE REVENUE SOURCE. SO THIS NUMBER, 557500 THAT YOU GAME I CAME UP, THAT EVERY YEAR, THIS ESTIMATED AMOUNT IS JUST SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER THAN THE PREVIOUS YEAR THAT WE'RE COLLECTED? Testifier: YES. THAT'S CORRECT. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ESTIMATED AMOUNT IS, WE ESTIMATE IT LA'IE AND THEN WHEN WE GET THE ACTUAL AMOUNT, OR SO YOU'LL SEE NEXT YEAR, WHEN WE DO IT, IT'S GOING TO BE OBVIOUSLY SIGNIFICANTLY FOR POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT HIGHER. AND THEN WHEN WE ESTIMATE NEXT YEAR, IT WILL BE AGAIN LOW AND THEN RAISE AGAIN.

Chair Okimoto: WE'LL LOOK FOR THAT AMOUNT AS WELLMENT THANK YOU. FINALLY, PEARL CITY FIRE STATION. THAT HAS BEEN MENTIONED THANK YOU FOR PUTTING IT IN HERE. NUMBERS THAT YOU STATED TODAY, THEY DIFFER FROM WHAT'S IN THE REPORT. WHICH IS THE MORE ACCURATE, MOST RACKET? CIP -- MOST ACCURATE PAGE A5, AMOUNT THAT YOU HAVE FOR EVERY YEAR, PAGE 55, AGAIN VARIED BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED ABOUT 140 MILLION TOTAL. 40 MILLION TOTAL STARTING FROM 2030, 24 MILLION, 10 MILLION AND 13 MILLION. NUMBERS IN THE BOOK ARE DIFFERENT. WE IS THE MOST ACCURATE NUMBER TO BASE IT OFF OF.

Testifier: SO THE 40 MILLION WAS JUST LAST PREVIOUS ESTIMATE. SO OUR SIX UHERO PROJECTION IS WHAT I HAD. Chair Okimoto: THESE NUMBERS ARE OUTDATED? Testifier: PRETTY POSITIVE. THAT'S CORRECT. Chair Okimoto: WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. PUT A PLUG. IF I CONTINUE TO SURVIVE THIS YEAR, 2032 PASS MY TERM. HOMIE GET INVITED TO PEARL CITY-HOPE I GET INVITED TO PEARL CITY GROUNDBREAKING AND GRAND OPENING POLICE STATION WITH MY COLLEAGUES ALSO SEAT R SITTING HERE. BENEFIT FROM IT IN THEIR DISTRICTS. THANK YOU. THAT ENDS MY LINE OF QUESTIONING. ANY ROUND TWO QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER DOS SANTOS-TAM.

Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: THANK YOU CARRY. I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON AGAIN, ONLINE PERMITTINGS SYSTEM SYSTEM UNDERSTAND DWOAR NEED TO DO BASED ON COURT. SOME KIND OF CORD OR COURT ORDE. RFP NOTES THAT, APPENDIX F. CITY AUNTIES BECAUSE IS BUDGET PROGS OF $375,000. FOR THE FIRST YEAR OF SYSTEM. ANTICIPATE, INCLUDES FULLY CONFIGURED ACCEPTED AND OPERATED SYSTEM PLUS DESCRIPTION AND MAINTENANCE LICENSE FEE. FOR $375,000. SUBSUBDIVISION WHY ARE YOU ASKING FOR MILLION DOLLARS SUBDESCRIPTION FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR? , SUBSCRIPTION.

Testifier: J TOLD THAT THE LOW -- BEING TOLD THAT THE LOW WAS 200,000. THE HIGH WAS 2 MILLION. SO WE WENT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, IT MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD IN YOU EVER WHEN THE PROPOSALS CAME THIS TO FUND IT. Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: HAD ENOUGH. RFP ANTICIPATES FOR ALL THE OUT YEARS, SUBSCRIPTION AND MAINTENANCE FEE OF $250,000. SO WIRE ON THE HOOK FROM HERE ON OUT FOR 6 FIGURE OR MORE. EACH AND EVERY YEAR. FOR THIS SYSTEM. Testifier: SOUNDS LIKE IT. FAMILIAR TAM OKAY.

Chair Waters: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER DOS SANTOS-TAM. I THINK SEEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONSER FOR CHIEF RADE VANIC. THANK YOU HPD FOR ALL YOU TO DO. CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOU. MEMBERS OCEAN SAFETY IS COMING UP WANTED TO GIVE A BRIEF ANNOUNCEMENT AFTER THE THOPT, WE WILL BE TAKING 45 MINUTE BREAK FOR LUNCH. AFTER THIS DEPARTMENT. STATE THE TIME A AT THAT POINT FOR OUR RETURN. THAT BEING SAID LIKE TO WELCOME ADOPT.TV OF OCEAN SAFETY. FOR YOUR INFORMATION, PRESENTATION IS AVAILABLE ONLINE DEPARTMENT OF OCEAN SAFETY. DEPARTMENTAL THIEWN COMMUNICATION 175, 2026. I BELIEVE DURING EUR JOHN US FROM OSD, JOIN US FROM OSD WE HAVE TO DO HAVE CHIEF KURT LAGER AND DEPUTY CHIEF JIMMY BABOUT. A. ROS.

Testifier: GOOD MORNING CHIEF KURT LAGER AND DEPUTY CHIEF BARSO.

Testifier: GOOD MORNING CARRY AND COUNCILMEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE. MY NAME IS KURT LAGER ACHIEVER OF OCEAN SAFETY. I REALLY QUICK WANT TO INTRODUCE OUR TEAM THAT IS HERE. ALSO THANK THEM. DEPUTY CHIEF JIMMY BAROS TWO ASA ASSISTANT CHIEFS, A ALE VEER A, BEEN HUGE HELP IN PREPARING AND GOING THROUGH OUR BUDGET POSSESS. ALE VEER A FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR '27. WANT TO GIVE SHOUT OUT TO, BFS AND SPETD SPECIFICALLY TATE ROMAN BUDGET ANALYST WORKED CLOSELY WITH IN DEVELOPING THIS BUDGET AND MADE IT VERY SMOOTH PROCESS. FOR US. WITH THAT, I'LL GET STARTED. LOOKING FROM FISCAL YEAR '2-6Z TO '27, OUR SALARIES GOING TO GO UP. JUST OVER $600,000. OR 2.62%. CURRENT EXPENSES YOU'LL SEE ARE GOING TO INCREASE ABOUT 36%. OR ABOUT $786,000. CURRENT EXPENSES TALK ABOUT NEXT SLIDE. SOME OF OUR DPP PRIORITIES THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. AND EQUIPMENT, SEE DECREASE OF ABOUT $1.2 MILLION. REASON YOU'RE SEEING LARGE DECREASE IN THERE IS THIS FOR TO REASONS. ONE THIS FISCAL YEAR WE'RE NOT PRAMPLE PLAINTIFFING ANY LIFE FARDEN TOWERS. NOT PURCHASING ANY. LIFEGUARD TOWERS LARGE TICKET ITEM FOR US. GOT PURCHASING LIFEGUARD TOWERS ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS LAST YEAR'S BUDGET. IMPLEMENTING THIS YEAR STARTLING OUR LIFE CYCLE PLAN PLANNING MANAGEMENT PLAN. ORDERING PURCHASING EQUIPMENT, OVER THE NEXT COUPLE CEO MANY COMINGFISCAL YEARS RESPONSIBLE Y MANY TOTAL INCREASE IN OUR OPERATING BUDGET FG ABOUT 157,000, OR ABOUT HALF A PERCENT. FROM LAST YEAR. OUR PRIORITIES THIS YEAR, THERE'S THREE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT. FIRST IS WATCH TOWER. THIS IS OUR DIGITAL LOG SHEET AND INLS DENT REPORTING

SYSTEM. WE HAVE INCIDENT. LAST YEAR WE HAVE BEEN, USING THE SYSTEM HANAUMA BAY. WE JUST WENT LIVE THIS PAST SUNDAY. WITH ALL OF OUR MOBILE RESPONDERS. ALL OF THE SUPERVISORS AND RESCUE OPERATORS THAT ARE IN VEHICLES AROUND THE ISLAND ARE NOW USING WATCH TOWER AS OF TODAY. AND WE HAVE PLANS TO ROLL OUT THE REST OF ISLAND ALL REST OF THE LIFEGUARD TOWERS. EAR IN THE COMING MONTHS. SO THIS MONEY WILL HELP US FINISH THIS EXPANSION TO PURCHASE THE TABLETS. EACH TABLET COSTS ABOUT 5 $567 A PIECE. ONE TIME COST. HAVE PAY A MONTHLY DATA FEE RUNS ABOUT 37 TEDS DOLLARS A D. $27. OBSERVATION LIFE SAFE AGENCIES AROUND THE CONDITION TRIER ARE. AND ABOUT $80,000 A YEAR. WHAT WE ARE BUDGET FOR THIS. ALSO, PRIORITY FOR OUR DEPARTMENT, IS PUBLIC MESSAGING AND SAFETY MESSAGING. SO, LAST YEAR, THANK YOU CHAIR WATERS. COUNCIL ADD. HAPPY TO SAY THEY WITH THIS IN OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR. SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO REACH OUT GET MORNING MESSAGING TO THE PUBLIC OUT THERE. ON IMPORTANT MESSAGING HAZARD EXIST IN THE OCEAN AND EDUCATION TO THE YOUTH ON LEARN TO SWIM PROGRAMS THAT ARE OUT THERE AND JUST GENERAL WATER SAFETY. ANOTHER PRIORITY THAT IS INTO THE LISTED ON THIS SLIDE, ALSO IS WE ARE RFP PURCHASING PORTABLE RADIOS THAT WE NEED TO REPLACE SOME OF OUR AGING PORT NL RADIOS. PORT NL. CURRENT VACATIONS PORTABLE, FEBRUARY 1 SNAP SHOT, 29 VACANCIES WAS STILL AT 29 TODAY. OF THOSE 29, 16 OF THEM MAKE UP WATER SAFETY YOFORTS. MAJORITY OF THEM BEING WATER SAFETY YOFORT OFFICER ONE AND T. LIFEGUARD ON BEACH IT'S. SUPER-SUPERVISORY POSITIONS VACANT. LOOKING TO FILL, MAJORITY OF THOSE POSITION THIS FISCAL YEAR. WE ARE ALREADY COMPLETED INTERVIEWS FOR MAJORITY OF

THOSE POSITION. AS WELL. AND SO WE SHOULD BE FILLING THOSE. WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF ADMINISTRATIVE POSITIONS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON FILLING. AND ALSO, WITH WITHIN THAT 29 WE DO HAVE SOME APOLOGIESES YET TO BE CREATED POSITIONS YYET CREATED WATER SAFETY OFFICER. LOGISTICS AND RESCUE. FRONT LINE WATER SAVES OFFICER. OVERALL GOAL IT IS TO MAJORITY FILLED BEFORE END OF FISCAL YEAR. BUT FOR SURE BY END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR. LOOKING AT OUR OVER TIME.

DEPARTMENT OF OVER TIME, WE HAVE NONHOLIDAY OVER TIME BUDGET IN GENERAL FUND $800,000. THIS IS TYPICALLY USED TO FOR RESPONSORS INSEN INCIDENT OUTSIDE NORMAL OPERATING HOURS. MAY HAPPEN AT THE END OF THE DAY AS WELL AS, TO MAINTAIN STAFFING IN OUR TOWERS. AND OUR OPERATIONS. DUE TO SHORTAGES FROM VARIOUS DIFFERENT REASONS. THEN HOLIDAY OVER TIME, $750,000. GENERAL FUND. LIFEGUARDS WORK SEVEN DAYS A WOKE. 365 DAYS A YEAR. COLLECTIVE BARGAINING EACH OF THEM ENTITLED TO THEIR HOLIDAY. PAY. SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. SEE THAT WE HAVE, MUCH SMALLER STAFF. BUT OTHER FUND IS FOR THE LIFEGUARDS WORK AT HANAUMA BAY. OUR CAPITAL BUDGET WE GO HAVE TWO PROJECTS. ROA FOR YOU. FIRST PROJECT IS FOR VARIOUS OCEAN SAFETY STATIONS. FOR IMPROVEMENTS AND BASICALLY, IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR VARIOUS STATION. WE DID REVIEW OF OUR CURRENT STATUS WITH SUBSTATION AND WE PUT MONEY IN THERE TO ADDRESS THOSE TYPE OF NEEDS. OUR OTHER PROJECT IS FOR THE WAIANAE SUBSTATION. WHICH IS OLD BUILDING AND WE ARE GOING FOR BUILD NEW SUBSTATION ON OUR WAIANAE COAST. ON THE SAME PROPERTY THAT NEXT TO WHERE THE CURRENT SUBSTATION IS. WITH THAT, I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION. THAT YOU VERY MUCH.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBERS WITH COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA. Councilmember Tupola: ALOHA CHIEF. AND ALOHA TO YOUR TEAM. THANK FOR BEING HERE. BRIEFLY, I FEW QUESTIONS. I'M SO EXCITED TO SEE HOW FAR OCEAN SAFETY DEPARTMENT OF HAS COME. EXCITED TO ABOUT COMMISSION WORKING WITH YOU GUYS. AND OF COURSE, CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ON ECHO FIGURES CHIEF. -OWE IF FIGURES ACHIEVER. MY FIRST QUESTION OFFICIAL CHIEF. COMMENT ABOUT WAIANAE SUBSTATION DDC, DO ALSO HAVE MONIES FOR GATE AND TO KIND OF HELP PAVE ENTRANCE AREA. SUPPOSED TO BE ENCUMBERED OR DONE THIS YEAR. DO YOU HAVE ANY UPDATES ON THAT? IF NOT, I CAN ASK DDC.

Testifier: I'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. IF THAT'S OKAY TUPOLA YEAH. I DIDTY THAT FOUR OFFICE, WE HAVE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. ACCESS BY THE FIRE STATION DOWN TO WHERE WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE NEEDS TO HAVE MORE SECURITY. GLAD WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THAT. I WAS ABLE TO TALK WITH JOINT BASE PEARL HARBOR YOU GUYS JUNIOR LIFEGUARD CLASS AT WHITE PLAINS. DON'T NEED A MIEWMPLET MOU. WORK WITH YOU GUYS. CORD COORDINATE IF YOU WANT TO JUNIOR LIFEGUARD CLASS THERE. Testifier: FANTASTIC NEWS THANK YOU. Councilmember Tupola: ADDING ABOUT ADDING NEW SPOTS FOUR GUYS. YOU KNOW WEST SIDE BEST SIDE. THANK YOU 230R ALL THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS DO. THANK YOU CHAIR.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA. COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA. KIA'AINA THANK YOU. WANTED TO JUST ECHO HOW FAR YOU GUYS HAVE COME. YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD ACTUALLY LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR GUYS REPORT. I THINK THEY'RE A LITTLE SHOCKED ABOUT THE DATA. YOU GUYS ARE NOT SHOCKED. BUT I THINK THE RESIDENTS ARE A LITTLE SHOCK. Testifier: SOME OF NUMBERS ARE A LARGING ALARMING. KIA'AINA JUST LOOKING KIND OF INTERESTING, LITTLE FIRE ANTS LOOK AT ALL OF YOU GUYS DIFFERENTLY. OH, MY DO. DAY-TO-DAY BASIS. ALL OF A SUDDEN LOOK AT YOU GUYS. NOT EASY WORK TO GO SAVE PEOPLE.

Testifier: THANK YOU FOR THAT. MOST PEOPLE LOOK AT LIFEGUARDS JUST SITTING IN A LIFEGUARD TOWER. GENERAL JOYING THEIR INJOILG THEIR DAY. MOST IS PREVENTATIVE. KIA'AINA SCONE A LOT OF GENTLEMAN DROP JAWS. LET YOU GUYS KNOW WAS THE REACTION HAS BEEN I THINK REAPPRECIATION OF WAIWAIHEE GUYS DO. WANT TO GET UPDATE LATEST FROM THE OCEAN SAFETY STAFF FOR KAILUA. YOUNG MAN. MENTIONED JULY AS THE COMPLETION DATE. FOR THE KAILUA, IS IT SUBSTATION OR OPERATION HUB WHAT DO YOU CALL IT.

Testifier: THAT WILL BE WINDWARD APP OPERATIONS HUB. NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT WELL WEIL CALL IT YET. C CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN JULY COMPLETION DATE. Testifier: EARLY SEPTEMBER PROJECT COMPLETION. HOPING TO OCCUPY BILLING SOONER. BUILDING SOONER. KIA'AINA COULD NO MORE PILIKIA MANY I IMMEDIATING IT. Testifier: NO. Councilmember Kia'aina: LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. TAKE CARE. IMPEDING IT. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. TYLER DOS-SANTOS TAM COUNCILMEMBER WEYER.

Councilmember Weyer: THANK YOU. MAHALO CHIEF. KIND OF GOING OFF THE, I KNOW WE HAD DIFFERENT UPDATES COULD YOU MAYBE LAY OUT WHERE WE STAND RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF TIMELINE, FOR THE TOWERS ROLLING OUT. AND THEN ALSO MAY BE THE RESCUE ADJUSTMENT IN TERMS OF TIMING AND EXPANSION.

Testifier: I THINK THANK YOU FOR ASKING IS THAT. FORGOT TO MENTION IT DURING MY PRESENTATION. WE DO HAVE ILLEGAL FIREWORKS GUARD TOWERS IN OUR -- ILLEGAL FIREWORKS GUARD -- LIFEGUARD TOWERS GO OUT DIFFERENT DISTRICTSMENT REB REREPLACE MANY EXCEPT ONE HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE WE'RE ASSISTED YOU'LLED FOR MARCH 27ER TO PUT NEW LIFEGUARD TOWER AT SHARKS' COULD HE HAVE. SCHEDULED. CURRENTLY LIFEGUARDS SITTING IN A TRUCK WATCHING WATER. WE/HAVE A NEW TOWER THEN. CONTINUING WITH RESCUE OPERATIONS, AS IS RIGHT NOW OF THE WE ARE, ARE PLANNING FOR ANOTHER RESCUE OPERATOR CLASS. IT YEAR. MAKING PLANS ON POTENTIAL EXPANSION IN THE FUTURE.

Councilmember Weyer: APPRECIATE THAT. MARCH 27. JUST AROUND THE CORNER. WANT TO ECHO THAT. MAHALO YOU AND YOUR ENTIRE TEAM. FOR JUST TAKE LEAD AND IN THIS HISTORIC TIME. DIDN'T GETS STOOD UP AND SOLIDIFIED SO REALLY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. AND COLLABORATIVE WORK WITH THE COMMISSION. AS WELL AS COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. MAHALO CHAIR. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER WEYER. COUNCILMEMBER TULBA. Councilmember Tulba: NO QUESTIONS. THAWJT VICE CHAIR NISHIMOTO. VICE CHAIR NIRCHLT THANK YOU ONE QUESTION. NOISH. I KNOW. COUNCILMEMBER NISHIMOTO. Chair Okimoto: WELCOME QUESTIONS HERE.

Vice Chair Nishimoto: ARE R I HAVE A BURNING ONE. IN YOUR BUDGET, HIGHLIGHTS YOU TALK ABOUT 870,000, SALADS. CORRECT? SALADS UP THERE TOO. Testifier: WHY. SALARY ADDS. LOOK DWHRIEWR TABLES LOOK THROUGH YOUR TABLES ABLE TO FIND 634,000. AM I MISSING SOMETHING? Testifier: THINK I SAID 634,000. 300. Councilmember Nishimoto: BUDGET HIGHLIGHTS SAYS 870 ADDED TO DEPARTMENTAL SALARIES. TO SUPPORT DAWN TO DUSK INITIATIVES. SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

Testifier: I'M GO GOING TO GET BACK TO YOU. Vice Chair Nishimoto: EMAIL ME. THAT WOULD BE GROIT GREAT. Testifier: NO PROBLEMMENT THANK YOU VIEWS CARRY NISHIMOTO. COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO. STAND BETWEEN US AND LUNCH. WANT TO THE MAHALO THE DEPARTMENT OF OCEAN SAFETY. FOR EVERYTHING. ESPECIALLY THEIR RISK TREE DID HE AUCTION AND ROA HE PRESENTATION. RISK REDUCTION AND PREVENTION THAT YOU MENTIONED. QUICK QUESTION. THANK YOU FOR MEETING WITH TEAM AND I. I WANTED TO JUST GO BACK REALLY QUICK ABOUTLY YOU HAD PAGE HERE ON OCEAN SAFETY. ISSUES. BUDGET.

Testifier:. JUST CLARIFY. WE DID TALK ABOUT YOUR NEW ENDEAVOR TO HAVE THINGS MODERNIZE IN THE TOWERS. AND I-PADS COMING. THESE ISSUES JUST RECUR. THESE ARE THINGS YOU'RE ASKING FOR BUT NOT PLACED IN THE BUDGET. THEY WERE APPROPRIATED? Testifier: ALL PLACED IN BUDGET. Chair Okimoto: I WANT TO BE SURE. OKAY. YOU WERE NOT HAVING THAT NEGLIGENT. OKAY. I THINK THAT WAS IT. PUT A PLULG I DON'T LIVE IN THE DOSE COASTAL AREA. COME TO CENTER OF ISLAND. NEVER COME TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD BE GO FOR COUNCILMEMBERS. APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. Testifier: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. ANY SECOND ROUND QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO ON? MEMBERS, SEEING NO OTHER SECOND ROUND QUESTIONS WE WILL RECESS FOR R RIGHT AT 1158 AT 12:45, WE CONVENE AND STARTED BACK UP WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION. RECESS. -- RECESS) ( RECESS)