Regular City Commission Meeting - Regular Meeting

Wednesday, March 4, 2026

About this meeting

Government Body
Regular City Commission Meeting
Meeting Type
Regular City Commission Meeting
Location
Hollywood, FL
Meeting Date
March 4, 2026

Transcript

1576 sections (from 1,854 segments)

6:13 – 6:29Speaker 1

All right. Good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to the city of Hollywood. Welcome to City Hall for our city commission meeting. Today is, of course, Wednesday, 03/04/2026.

6:31 – 7:06Speaker 1

It is great to see all of you, especially members of our public safety and Hollywood Police Department here. At the start of each meeting, we always begin with a moment of silence, of course, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance. And sometimes we take a moment of privilege to remember people who we either personally lost or the community lost. And today, we have, unfortunately, both to really take a minute to recognize. If I could, Vice Mayor Coleri had lost her mom, Bonnie, a few, now a couple of weeks ago, ten days ago.

7:06 – 7:52Speaker 1

And many of us were at the heartfelt service at Nativity, where she was remembered. And for those of us, of course, who've known Commissioner Coleri like we have for many, many years, we got to know Bonnie personally. It was always a great spirit, always a smile, always enjoying community events, joining us in our passion and enjoyment of the city of Hollywood. And during the service, her life was recognized. But mostly, what touches me and, of course, touches all of us is a reminder, again, that Bonnie's love for her family and how her family loved her back and and her grandchildren is, in the end, what was recognized as most important to her.

7:52 – 8:43Speaker 1

And and that love, in the end, reminds us what in the end is should be most important and, of course, ought to be most most important in in our own lives. And so we remember Bonnie with love, commissioner Kaleri, and we're we're sorry for your your loss, your family. We also lost this past week, former city commissioner and county commissioner in our city, Suzanne Gunsberger, who was the longest serving county commissioner in Broward County's history, served as mayor three times, also served for many years here in the Hollywood City Commission. She was remembered again, most importantly, by her own family as a grandmother and mother herself and what that meant to her. And through her public life, she was, of course, recognized for her work in furthering the arts in Broward County when it wasn't as big as it is today.

8:43 – 9:17Speaker 1

Environmental protection, children's services, ethics in government really stood for a lot of things that, in the end, we have today codified Hollywood North Beach Park. I understand she was a champion for preserving and creating, and so a lot of notable accomplishments during her tenure as an elected official. But we also remember her as a person and as a friend as well to many of us along the years that we had a chance to know her. If there's anyone else who'd like to have a moment of privilege to follow-up, let's go to Commissioner Schuham.

9:18 – 9:58Speaker 2

I just want to reiterate our condolences to the Clary family. We're all going to miss Bonnie. With respect to Sue Gunsberger, in addition to what you said, she was just an integral member of District 1 in the Hollywood Lakes community. She's remembered by so many for her public service, but we'll remember her for her private service as well, to her neighbors. And I know so many people that will walk around that lake in the morning and not get used to not seeing her. So two amazing women lost in a short KAUFFMAN: time. It's a tough one.

9:58 – 10:34Speaker 1

And as I understand, I must say, during both services, both of them really enjoyed a nice glass of wine. And so next time you say cheers, think of both Bonnie and Suzanne. With that, please rise for the moment of silence followed by the Pledge of Allegiance. I failed to mention the service members of the US Armed Forces that we also lost this week, so

10:34Speaker 3

let's honor them as well.

10:45 – 11:26Speaker 1

I pledge allegiance to the flag of The United States Of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, individual with liberty and justice for all. Along those same lines, we always make a point at the start of our meetings to recognize our US veterans, active service personnel, and their families. So if you are a member of the, armed forces, active, retired, veteran, a family member thereof, please rise. We'd like to recognize you. Thank you. Clerk, roll call, please.

11:27Speaker 4

Commissioner Schuham. Here. Commissioner Hernandez.

11:31Speaker 4

Vice Mayor Caleri. Here. Commissioner Gruber.

11:34Speaker 4

Commissioner Biederman. Here. Commissioner Quintana. Here. GREGORY Here.

11:40 – 12:20Speaker 1

GREGORY Thank you all. All right. Today's consent agenda includes items five through 40. I do have a couple of notes to make before we accept a motion. Item 40 has been withdrawn by the city manager. So consent are items five through 39. Items five, twenty eight, and 35 have speaker cards. So we'll be happy to take them individually later in the meeting. I also want to make note for the record that there are a number of items with some corrected information that has been provided on the dais. Those include items eight, nine, thirteen, twenty, 25, 54, and 55.

12:22 – 13:03Speaker 1

And so with that, are there any additional items that would likely be removed for individual discussion? If not, I hear Vice Mayor Caleri moving to approve the balance of the consent agenda together with Commissioner Gruber. So this is a motion to move items five through 39, putting aside items five, twenty eight, and 35 for individual consideration. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none, the consent items pass unanimously. Alright. On to our 1PM presentations, proclamations, and awards. We do have a great group of Ohio Police Department members here.

13:03Speaker 1

Chief Devlin, welcome. He'd like to recognize the recipients of the twenty twenty five November and December Department Awards. Chief.

13:12 – 13:57Speaker 6

Yes, sir. Good afternoon, mayor, vice mayor, commissioner, city manager. Thank you once again for giving us a few minutes to recognize the great work done by the men and women of the police department and understanding how important it is not only to the men and women, but to the community as well to hear this. So thank you. These awards take on a little extra special meaning to me because, as you'll see, they were done November, December, right in the middle of the holidays. So when we're at home with our family shopping, taking the work they're doing for granted, knowing that they're out there doing this kind of work, it means a lot to us. Also, I'd like to, as Commissioner Hernandez did earlier, congratulate the flag football team for their victory over the fire department. And as you'll hear in a couple of these stories, not only did we beat them on the field, but we beat them to a few of these calls. So Commissioner Hander, we're working on getting you a new hat as well, too, sir.

13:58Speaker 5

Thank you, sir.

13:59Speaker 1

Chief, fire chief, you'll be up at some point as well on the mic, so you'll have a chance. Yeah.

14:04 – 14:33Speaker 7

Good afternoon, mayor, vice mayor, commissioners, city manager, assistant city managers, and staff. I'm Deanna Bettanesh, public information manager for the Hollywood Police Department. We're going to start off with our November officer of the month. Will Cody Anderson please come forward? In October, the US Postal Service recognized Officer Cody Anderson for his performance assisting their agency with criminal investigations.

14:33 – 14:59Speaker 7

At the beginning of 2025, Officer Anderson was on patrol when he observed a suspect stealing mail from multiple homes. He conducted a traffic stop and discovered large amounts of stolen mail, credit cards, IRS documents, and passports. The suspect was charged in a four count federal indictment for obstruction and possession of stolen mail. Congratulations. Next, we have the November Life Saving Awards.

14:59 – 15:35Speaker 7

Will Officer Kaiser Lorena, Officer Carlos Ituraga, Officer Stephanie Roach, and Officer Devin Clark please come forward. On October 21, just before 05:30PM, these officers were dispatched to North Surf Road for a residential high rise fire. As soon as officers got to the scene, they saw flames coming from the penthouse. They immediately began to do a check of apartments that were near the fire. Through coordinated efforts and clear communication, they located and evacuated four residents who were being threatened by smoke and flames.

15:35 – 15:58Speaker 7

The residents were immediately transferred to awaiting fire rescue personnel. These officers should be recognized for their decisive actions, which prevented further loss of life. Congratulations. We have another lifesaving award in November. Will officer Orlando Corasco please come forward?

16:04 – 16:27Speaker 7

HPD received a letter from the community highlighting Officer Carrasco, who was working a missing persons case involving a 75 year old woman. He demonstrated compassion while working to locate the woman. When she returned home, she was disoriented. And Officer Carrasco made sure she was transported to Memorial Regional, where it was discovered she had a brain bleed and needed emergency surgery. He should be commended for his dedication to duty.

16:27 – 17:09Speaker 7

Congratulations. For our December officer of the month, will Officer Luis Sanchez and Officer Priamo Lozada Gonzalez please come forward. At the November, officers Sanchez and Lozada Gonzalez were conducting a business check at a local racetrack when a call of a kidnapping that originated in Pompano Beach was dispatched. The call stated the suspects and victims were at the same racetrack. Officers Sanchez and Lozada Gonzalez quickly detained all parties and located a handgun and rifle in the suspect's possession.

17:09 – 17:27Speaker 7

Their quick actions helped deter a potentially volatile situation. Congratulations. Our employee of the month for December is CSO Christian Robles. And he's also receiving a lifesaving award for December as well. If you'll please come forward.

17:33 – 17:54Speaker 7

At the December, CSO Robles was on 72nd Avenue when he was flagged down for a traffic crash. Robles observed a person on the ground bleeding from his leg. He immediately rendered aid and applied a tourniquet. He was able to stop the bleeding and was able to move the patient to the sidewalk. He should be commended for his quick response and first aid that saved the man's life.

17:54 – 18:25Speaker 7

Congratulations. We have another lifesaving award for December. Will CSO Jessica Vizcarondo please come forward? If you follow HPD on social media, which I hope all of you do, you may already know a little bit about this December lifesaving award recipient. At the December, CSO Jessica Vizcarondo was at home off duty when she realized there was a fire at her complex.

18:25 – 18:44Speaker 7

The fire completely engulfed one of the first floor apartments, and there was heavy smoke and fire. CSO Bizcarondo, along with another Good Samaritan, located an older man who had lost consciousness and couldn't make it out of the door of his home. The two dragged him to safety, away from the smoke and flames. Her efforts and quick thinking should be recognized for saving this man's life. Congratulations.

18:47Speaker 7

And if we can have all of the awardees come up for a group photo, please. Thank you.

18:52 – 19:06Speaker 1

Thank you. Just while you come up, on behalf of all the residents of Hollywood and the city commission, thank you so much. Public safety, just saving lives. You guys do it every day. And I hope you realize how special that is. We do. Thank you.

19:47 – 20:32Speaker 1

Thank you all. You know, following up Chief Devlin's introduction, it would have been great if Fire Chief Levy would be able to immediately recognize Fire Rescue and Beach Safety's Fire Cadet Program, but we'll take that up around 5PM, Chief, when I know the cadets will be here. So thank you so you can think about your comeback there. And so now let's take an important moment to present a proclamation recognizing Colorectal Cancer Awareness Month, March 2026. I like to invite Commissioner Gruber to present the proclamation.

20:32 – 20:48Speaker 1

I think we have Kasia Orzejewska here. She is with Fight Colorectal Cancer Ambassador. She's an ambassador and advocate in this cause. So welcome, Kaseya. Go ahead, Commissioner Gruber.

20:50 – 21:35Speaker 3

Thank you. Proclamation, City Of Hollywood, Florida, in recognition of colorectal cancer Cancer Awareness Month. Whereas colorectal cancer is the leading cause of cancer related deaths for men 50 and the second leading cause for women 50. It is one of the most significant causes of cancer related mortality in The United States And whereas colorectal cancer is one of the few cancers that can be prevented with timely screening, yet one in three eligible Americans are not up to date on recommended screening. And whereas American Indians, Alaska Natives, as well as African Americans experience higher rates of colorectal cancer than other populations.

21:39 – 22:42Speaker 3

And colorectal cancer is expected to account for approximately twelve percent of cancer related deaths among Hispanic men and nine percent among Hispanic women and whereas Americans living in rural areas are more likely to be diagnosed and die from colorectal cancer than those living in urban areas highlighting ongoing geographic and health care access disparities and whereas in 2025 there were approximately one hundred and fifty four thousand two hundred and seventy new cases and fifty nine thousand deaths attributed to the disease in The United States and whereas the National Colorectal Cancer Roundtable has established a national goal to increase timely colorectal cancer screening rates to eighty percent in every community for all Americans eligible for screening. Observing Colorectal Awareness Month in March provides an important opportunity to provide education, early detection and prevention. Now therefore, Josh Levy, Mayor of the City Of Hollywood, Florida and the Hollywood City Commission hereby proclaim March 2026 as Colorectal Cancer Awareness Month in the city of Hollywood.

22:48 – 23:22Speaker 9

Thank you, mayor and commissioners. My name is Kasia Ojerhofska, and I want to sincerely thank you for this proclamation and for officially proclaiming March as colorectal cancer awareness month. I am deeply grateful for your compassion and your willingness to stand with patients, survivors, caregivers and families like mine. Your leadership sends a powerful message of hope, awareness and action throughout the community. At 40 years old, I was diagnosed with stage four colon cancer, meaning that the cancer has already metastasized to other parts of my body.

23:22 – 23:44Speaker 9

At that time, my children were eight and two. Because of my age, I was initially misdiagnosed with gall bladder stones. Later, I learned that I did not have any stones. I had colon cancer that spread to my liver. Only about sixteen percent of individuals with similar diagnosis survived past the five years.

23:44 – 24:19Speaker 9

But by grace of God and through the extraordinary skill of surgeons and oncologists at the Cleveland Clinic in Florida, I was given a fighting chance. After multiple rounds of intense chemotherapy where I lost all my hair, the tumors on my liver shrank enough for surgeons to remove the affected portions of my liver and part of my colon. I then continued chemotherapy to eliminate any remaining cancer cells. A year later, the cancer returned, this time on the other side of my liver. And once again, I entered chemotherapy followed by a surgery.

24:19 – 25:03Speaker 9

Today, because of my medical team, I have been cancer free for six years. Thank you. And this is the reason for my advocacy, to bring awareness to communities to help save lives. Colorectal cancer is one of the most preventable and treatable diseases, yet it is one of the top cancer killers in The United States and around the world. Today, actually last month, the American Cancer Society released data that unfortunately it is now the number one killer for people 50.

25:04 – 25:39Speaker 9

And the rate is going up tremendously. We just actually came back this morning from DC with Fight Colorectal Cancer, what we call Colon Congress, where we go and meet with our elected officials and ask for funding. Colorectal cancer is the only five top cancer killers that does not have its own federal research funding. And the rates are going up. So just to give you a little example, people that were born in 1990 are four times more likely to get colorectal cancer than people that were born in 1950.

25:40 – 26:18Speaker 9

And we don't know why this is happening, and that's why we go every year to ask for funding from the senators in Congress. So I'm doing it for better access and to save lives in communities. And I urge everybody who is 45 years or older to get screened. Or if you have any GI issues, talk to your doctor. I know we don't like to talk about poop and butts and all of that, but I think it's very important that we all do that. Get your colonoscopies. It's the best ten minutes of sleep that you ever get. I'd like

26:19Speaker 1

Don't feel a thing.

26:21 – 27:05Speaker 1

Thank you. Well, please come on up. We'd love to take a photo and help spread the word about this. It's you've taught us something today, so thank you. All right.

27:05 – 27:31Speaker 1

Next, if you might have noticed, we've got an Irish looking fellow here wearing green. Eamon Toner is here. So is vice consul of Ireland, miss Cleona Lachlan and Maria Osorio. Please come on up with the Consulate of Ireland and Miami, as well as directors of the New Hibernians of Hollywood. I see Mark Rowe here, Mike Safran.

27:31 – 27:55Speaker 1

Let's hear all about recognizing Irish American Heritage Month, everybody. Yeah. And let's go ahead and invite Commissioner Hernandez to present the proclamation. And we'll hear from the group and talk all about our St. Patrick's Day festival, too. Commissioner Hernandez, the floor is yours.

27:56 – 28:32Speaker 5

Thank you, Mayor. On a lighter note, Irish American Heritage Month, March 2026. Whereas by 1776, nearly 300,000 Irish national had immigrated to the American colonies and played a crucial role in America's war for independence. Irish Americans in Florida have provided leadership and service to their state, counties, and local communities. And whereas Irish immigrants fought a new beginning in The United States as they arrived on our shores full of hope and dreams of the future.

28:32 – 29:45Speaker 5

With grit and determination, they work hard at building their lives, never forgetting where they came from and always remembering the courage and pride they brought with them from the old country. And passing this trait down to each new generation and whereas that pride lives on today in the heart of Irish Americans across our nation, it lives on business owners, scientists, and labor leaders who hold dear the Irish belief that everyone deserves to be treated with dignity. And it runs deep in so many first responders, public servants, and brave service members who defend our lives and liberties, the liberties that so many Irish immigrants help preserve and protect. And whereas, Irish Americans since American's inception have provided and continue to provide leadership and service to the nation's political, business, and religious establishment. It is fitting and proper to celebrate the rich cultured heritage and the many valuable contribution of Irish Americans and whereas the New Hiberians of Hollywood was established in 1998.

29:45 – 30:23Speaker 5

Arabian organizations have been in existence in Ireland and throughout the world for many centuries. However, unlike the majority of those, the New Hiberians of Hollywood are non denominational. The goal of the new Hiberians, Armenians of Hollywood has always been the promotion of Irish culture and the celebration of the Irish Dyspora placed in the history of America. In order to achieve this goal, the new Iberian Harbinians of Hollywood have produced the St. Patrick's Day Parade in Downtown Hollywood, an accompanying festival since 1998.

30:23 – 31:07Speaker 5

And whereas on Sunday, 03/15/2026, Downtown Hollywood will be transformed into a sea of green for the St. Patrick's Day Parade and Festival, this beloved annual celebration features a traditional float parade beginning at 1PM, showcasing a vibrant array of floats, pipe and drum corps, marching bands and business entries. The parade also proudly includes the renowned New York Police Department Emerald Society Pipe and Drum Corps, adding a spirited and authentic touch to the festivities. Now, therefore, Josh Levy, Mayor of the City Of Hollywood, Florida, and the Hollywood City Commission hereby proclaims March 2026 as Irish American Heritage Month.

31:13Speaker 1

Mark, welcome.

31:14Speaker 11

Thank you very much.

31:15Speaker 1

Hear from the consulate. We'll hear from all of you. Yeah.

31:17 – 31:31Speaker 12

Just want to say on behalf of the new Hibernians of Hollywood, thank you so much for the proclamation again this year. I'd like to introduce you to Cleena from the Irish Consulate in Miami and our Grand Marshal Issuer, Eamon, who will both say a few words.

31:37 – 32:03Speaker 13

Mayor, vice mayor, commissioners, the wonderful teams here today, thank you so much on behalf of the Consulate General of Ireland and Miami. It's nothing short of a privilege to be here with the honored members of your community today who are doing such important work across Hollywood. As we would say in Irish. To say briefly, there's over 30,000,000 people in The US who claim Irish ancestry. I think that number probably increases around St. Patrick's Day.

32:04 – 32:49Speaker 13

No doubt. But thousands of them are here in Hollywood, and we don't take that diaspora lightly. We cherish every member of that diaspora. Our government is actually currently working quite intensively in bringing forward a new diaspora strategy later this year. But those links, those people to people links, they're long and they're storied. And as The US is celebrating two fifty years and commemorating the signing of the Declaration of Independence, Ireland is very proud to officially join The US in doing that. And let us remember, at that time, that three of the signatories of that very important document were born on the island of Ireland. We certainly don't forget that and are very proud of that fact. And we'll never let you forget it either, probably. But actually, our people to people links are even older than that.

32:49 – 33:31Speaker 13

The consulate is very proud to join partners in launching an exhibition in St. Augustine later this week on the Irish presence in Spanish colonial Florida. And actually, the first ever St. Patrick's Day parade recorded, which took place in St. Augustine in around 1600. So the first one there, the second one in Hollywood, I believe. And none of us will tell Chicago, New York, or Boston any different than that. No, but in all seriousness to say, it's an honor to be here. Thank you so much for the recognition that you're showing to the Irish diaspora, to the Irish citizens in your community this month. And thank you also, of course, to Mike, Mark, and Eamon for their leadership in that regard as well.

33:32Speaker 13

Happy St. Patrick's Day to everyone in advance. And looking forward to meeting some of you, hopefully, at the parade.

33:37Speaker 5

Happy St. Patrick's Day, by the way. Speaking of people, the people who would love to be able to have a sister city with Ireland.

33:46Speaker 13

Well, you've come to the right place. I know a few cities that might be interested. So, yeah, that would be great. Thank you.

33:53Speaker 1

We'll take Dublin. Yeah.

33:55Speaker 13

As a proud dub, very happy with that.

33:58Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah. They've got a lot of great folks who sing in their main promenade. There are lot of buskers. See them on YouTube. Eamon. Good afternoon.

34:08 – 34:36Speaker 15

Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Mayor, city commission, and the city manager, and all the great staff that back you guys to make Hollywood what it is. And this year, of course, I have the privilege of being the grand marshal. They have me on the front line again. So that should be a lot of fun. I will clear the way for everybody. But I think about this, you know, a couple of years ago, I went back to Ireland, actually. And I decided to go back as a tourist. And this comes back to Hollywood actually.

34:36 – 35:11Speaker 15

And so I booked four air b n b's. As incompetent as I am, I missed one of the nights in my air b n b so I know where to stay. So I ran outside, didn't tell my wife about it and I booked a night in a beautiful place in Wicklow. And I told my wife it was to break up the journey, which was a 40 mile trip. But we drove real slow and she didn't know any different. But anyway, we drive into this little town. As I'm driving in this little town, I said to my wife, I said, have I been drinking? Did we transverse the world? Because the sign going into the town was Hollywood. Same fonts, same look.

35:11 – 35:55Speaker 15

So I was like, boy, but what an experience that was to stay in that town. And I think a lot of the fact that I had such a great time in that town was because I felt at home, because Hollywood is so much of my home. And so I think I hope that the Irish have brought some, you know, goodness to the country. You know, we're hard workers. We open businesses. We serve in our community through rotary. Of course, I have to give it the rotary plug all the time. Yep. But I just wanna thank you. But this proclamation is more than just for the Irish. This proclamation is for everybody in the city and the great inclusive spirit that you guys create in our city that makes room for us to be able to thrive in this community. And I thank you for that. Thank you. And come out on St. Patrick's Day.

35:55 – 36:06Speaker 15

Be Irish for a day. I don't care where you're from. You won't forget the next day, but it don't matter. So if you've had a good time, come out and have a great time. Be Irish for a day. Thank you very much.

36:10 – 36:26Speaker 1

Wear green. The parade is a festival, St. Patrick's Day Parade Festival begins at 12PM on Sunday, March 15, all the way through 6PM. The parade starts at one A lot of good music. We'll have, what, U2 o and Ode to the Cranberries.

36:26 – 37:10Speaker 1

So it's gonna be a lot of great music, a lot of great food, everybody, and of course, the parade and lots of fun. Wear green. We're all gonna be Irish. Come on up for the photo. Let's recognize commissioner Biederman.

37:17Speaker 16

For those of you that haven't been to a parade and you're watching, it's

37:19 – 37:33Speaker 16

parade. Mentioning 1998 brings me back to the point that my daughter was four months old at her first Saint Patrick's Day parade on a float in 1998. Mean, and we found that picture the other day. It was really cool.

37:33Speaker 8

Oh, that's awesome.

37:34Speaker 5

She's getting married this year,

37:36Speaker 16

She's getting married on April 4.

37:39 – 38:10Speaker 1

Well, Commissioner Biederman, let's leave that microphone on, sir, because the next proclamation recognizing Eid al Faraday, which is, of course, one of the most important Muslim holidays, is being recognized today through a proclamation. Accepting the proclamation will be Rahim Sichiran, the director of our IT, who is a proud Muslim American. And if there are other city employees or other Muslim folks here who want to join Rahim for the proclamation, please feel free to do so. Commissioner Biederman.

38:11Speaker 16

Thank you, mayor. Proclamation of the city of Hollywood in recognition of Ed Al Fadr. I say that right?

38:20Speaker 1

Eid Al Fadr. Right? Rahim, he'll correct us when he speaks.

38:23Speaker 17

SPEAKER All right.

38:24 – 39:15Speaker 16

03/20/2026, whereas the city of Hollywood Islamic community is a vibrant and important part of the diverse and multiethnic society that comprises the City Of Hollywood residents. And whereas Ramadan is the holiest month of the Islamic calendar, marking the first revelation of the Koran to the prophet Muhammad, and it lasts for twenty nine to thirty days based on the timing of the astronomical new moon. And whereas, is that good? Is on the first day of the month on Shawwal Islamic calendar and marks the end of Ramadan. Id al Fatihir for the year 2026 is observed at sundown on Thursday, March 19, ending sundown on Friday, March 20.

39:17 – 40:19Speaker 16

And whereas one of the five pillars of Islamic faith, fasting in Ramadan is a time for reflection, contemplation, and celebration, and includes fasting each day from sunrise to sunset. At the end of the day, at sunset, the fast is broken, often celebrated with family, friends and the community, and is followed by the evening prayer. And our Muslim neighbors, where we have a mosque next door, bring food out to all the neighbors in our neighborhood. And whereas Ramadan ends with Eid al Fatihir, a festival of breaking the fast, a very happy, joyous celebration with family and friends, and includes eating my favorite part gifts to children, the sharing of sweets and dressing in fine clothing. Now therefore, Josh Levy, mayor of the city of Hollywood, Florida, and the Hollywood City Commission hereby proclaim 03/20/2026 as Id Alphatir Day in the city of Hollywood and encourage all residents to acknowledge that.

40:26 – 41:09Speaker 18

Mayor, vice mayor, city manager, future city manager, assistant city manager, staff, residents, my name is Rahim Seetran. Not really wearing my hat as the IT director, but on behalf of the Muslim community, myself, as well as employees within the city, thank you very much. Muslims have been to this continent since the 1500s. The first recorded example was in the early 1500s with the Spanish exposition, specifically a Moroccan navigator. Muslims have continued to be brought, willingly and unwillingly, to this continent for hundreds of years.

41:11 – 42:02Speaker 18

A good example is Thomas Jefferson in 1776, where he wrote that freedom of religion, not just for Christians, but for Jews and Muslims, was part of the dynamic and the intent for this country. So when we talk about Muslims in this country as compared to the previous proclamation, 30,000,000, we're only 3,000,000. But throughout the world, one in four humans are Muslim. And within The USA, 82% of Muslims are citizens of this country. Roughly $5,000,000,000 of charity is given by Muslims in this month, the month of Ramadan.

42:02 – 42:44Speaker 18

And the end of it is the culmination of Eid al Fitr. And specifically, 75% of that money stays within this country to benefit those who are needy. The message I would like to give regarding Eid al Fitr and Ramadan is this month was given to us as it was given to the generations before us, with the intention of us becoming better, of us having consciousness, of us becoming more peaceful, more generous. If you think about it, it's kind of contradictory. We spend a day without food or water being hungry, being upset, and then testing ourselves with this consciousness not to get angry.

42:45Speaker 18

There have been studies if I go on too long, please stop me.

42:50Speaker 1

We're learning.

42:50 – 43:11Speaker 18

Go ahead. There have been studies that have highlighted the fact that teenagers in their late teens going through this process months later are more resilient, are more patient as a result of this exercise in faith and in self restraint. Thank you, and thank you.

43:11 – 43:51Speaker 1

Thank you. Thank you. Please come on up for a photo, everybody. Well, now we know that on March 20, we're all expecting sweets and lots of things that you guys are bringing to the workplace. So thank you all.

43:51 – 44:32Speaker 1

Thank you all. Alright. On to our to our time certain items, ladies and gentlemen. It is almost 2PM. We do have a 01:15 time certain item. This is an ordinance on second reading by the police department advertising conformance to state statutes and city codes on ordinance of the city of Hollywood amending the code of ordinances as regards to the traffic code, regulating the operation of motorized scooters and micromobility devices with some prohibitions and clarifications therein. I'm gonna go ahead and open the public hearing. Are there any speaker cards on, the ordinance for item 46?

44:32 – 44:48Speaker 1

Public hearing is now closed. I will, either accept the request for discussion or a motion from Adeis. Motion from commissioner Vice Mayor Coleri, second from commissioner Shuham, city attorney. Why don't you go ahead and read the ordinance, we'll call the roll call vote.

44:48 – 45:11Speaker 19

An ordinance of the city of Hollywood, Florida, amending title seven of the code of ordinances entitled Traffic Code, regulating the operation of motorized scooters and micromobility devices, prohibiting the rental of motorized scooters and micromobility devices, and clarifying motorcycle operation permit requirements, providing for a severability clause and a repeal or provision.

45:12Speaker 4

DANIELLE Commissioner Schuham? Yes. I'm sorry?

45:17Speaker 4

DANIELLE Commissioner Hernandez?

45:19Speaker 4

DANIELLE Vice Mayor Herclery? Yes. Commissioner Gruber?

45:37 – 45:54Speaker 1

Madam, city attorney. Thank you. Alright. Show the ordinance passes unanimously on second reading. Item 47 is an ordinance on first reading as well by the Department of Development Services.

45:54 – 46:32Speaker 1

It's an ordinance of the city of Hollywood changing its zoning designation of 1.11 or so acres, generally located on 19th Avenue between Jackson And Van Buren Streets, as identified further in the packet with regards to its folio numbers and addresses from PS 3 to FH 2, and, of course, amends the city's official zoning map to reflect that change and providing for an effective date. So city attorney, is this item quasi judicial? So you'll have to present the quasi judicial proceedings. We'll ask if there's waiver, share any ex parte communications, and then we'll move on with the item.

46:33Speaker 1

All right. So go ahead, please, and read the rules.

46:35 – 47:18Speaker 19

Florida courts have determined that there are certain types of matters, including items such as number 47 on today's agenda, which are to be treated differently from other issues considered by the commission or board. Most decisions of the commission are legislative in nature, meaning that the commission is acting as a policy making body. However, in quasi judicial matters, the commission is applying existing rules and policies to a particular factual situation and is therefore acting like a judge or jury in the courtroom. In such cases, courts have determined that due process and fundamental fairness require that more formal procedures be followed. Therefore, in quasi judicial matters, all witnesses are sworn in and subject to cross examination by the parties.

47:18 – 47:43Speaker 19

In addition, the decision of the commission must be supported by competent and substantial evidence presented at the hearing. However, in Hollywood, we have adopted a rule that allows for the waiver of the quasi judicial formalities. Waiver can only occur if agreed to by staff, the applicant, and any member of the public who is present. Therefore, at this time, I ask that the chair inquire as to whether there is anyone who objects to waiving the quasi judicial formalities.

47:44Speaker 1

JOSHUA All right. Any objection? I imagine the applicant waves the formal proceedings.

47:50 – 48:07Speaker 20

JOSHUA I've been informed that there is only one speaker on the subject. Assuming that's the case, we waive. If it turns out that I was misinformed and there's 10 or 15, then I would want quasi judicial to the opportunity cross examine. But if there's only one, which is what staff has said, we waive.

48:07Speaker 1

The staff waive.

48:11Speaker 21

WILLIAM Good afternoon. Andrea Winget, director of development services. Staff waives.

48:15 – 48:53Speaker 1

WILLIAM All right, city attorney. I don't see any objection for proceeding informally. So go ahead, Andrea, and we'll proceed as usual. Ex I'm parte sorry. Okay. Good call, Commissioner Hernandez. So I'll start. So ex parte communications requirements require us to share if we had spoken to anyone about this particular application. I had only had an opportunity to speak with the representative counsel for the project, Mr. Steve Geller, who asked if I had any questions. And I really didn't because it's pretty straightforward. So I'll go ahead down the line. Let me just go ahead for the order. Commissioner Xuyang, go ahead.

48:53Speaker 2

Yes, same. Mayor, I spoke briefly with Senator Geller.

48:58Speaker 1

Commissioner Hernandez? Thank you, Mayor. I, as

49:00Speaker 5

well, spoke briefly with Senator Geller.

49:03Speaker 1

Commissioner Gruber.

49:04Speaker 3

Same experience.

49:07Speaker 1

Okay. Commissioner Vice Mayor Coleri?

49:12Speaker 1

Commissioner Biederman?

49:14Speaker 16

I also spoke to Senator Geller. And I watched the Zoom call with the community.

49:18Speaker 5

So did I. But that's it was one-sided, wasn't it?

49:22Speaker 1

Okay. How about commissioner Quintana?

49:25Speaker 22

I had no ex parte communication.

49:28Speaker 1

Alright. Great. Thank you all so much. Let's go ahead then to Andrea's presentation. Andrea Andrea, it's from high intensity to medium high intensity, sounds like one and the same to me. Go ahead.

49:40 – 50:13Speaker 21

Okay. So as you said, mayor, the request before you is for rezoning of property just south of our downtown. And before we get into the specific request, I wanted to provide a little bit of background for you and some additional context for the area. Out today, if you were to drive by, you'll see the building that's on the screen. This is phase one of a mixed use project that is out there under construction out there today.

50:16 – 50:57Speaker 21

The applicant is proposing to build a phase two project on the property that is now highlighted. That phase two project was considered by the Planning and Development Board when they considered the rezoning request. They unanimously approved that project, of course, with the effective date or the effective condition that it's subject to a future rezoning. The rezoning that's before you today includes the parcels that are highlighted here. It includes the sister project that I just mentioned, as well as a property to the north, which is known as the Kindred Property.

50:57 – 51:29Speaker 21

It is one of the properties held by the Kindred Hospital. And again, here's just the image that shows the rezoning that is before you today. Here's still some additional background of what the context of the area would look like and what the Planning and Development Board had previously considered as well. So let's jump into today's request. The information that I showed you is not information that you should be basing your decision on today.

51:29 – 52:19Speaker 21

You are here solely to consider a rezoning of property. The site plan, future plans for this parcel are not slated to come before you because it is being rezoned to one of our standard zoning districts And you have delegated that authority to your local planning agency, planning and development board, to handle those items for you. So the item before you is a request for a rezoning from Parkside High Intensity to Federal Highway Medium High Intensity FH2 for the parcels that are highlighted on your screen. Here are some of the surrounding properties. We have Regent Park to the West, 9 Hollywood Phase 1 to the East, place of worship, and some multifamily residential within the area as well.

52:22 – 52:38Speaker 21

The criteria that you will base your decision on are the five criteria that are on the screen. Staff, as well as the local planning agency, have found those criteria to be consistent and therefore recommend approval of the project that is before you today to rezone the property.

52:41 – 53:03Speaker 1

Thank you so much. Let's go ahead to Mr. Geller, if you'd like to share the inspiration of the development team. And I'm excited that you all are pursuing this. Of course, we love it when a project doesn't stop at phase one but sees through to the phase two vision of the ownership. This is welcome. Is

53:05Speaker 20

there a way of getting it up on the screen?

53:13Speaker 2

you want to start, I can see.

53:15 – 53:28Speaker 20

Okay. We're just trying to figure out one map which is part of your zoning package. I'll have I get it up on the screen. Good afternoon, Mr. Mayor, Madam, Vice Mayor, members of the commission.

53:29 – 54:05Speaker 20

I think that this is a fairly easy one. We're applying for a rezoning because twothree of the block is in one zoning district and onethree of the block is in a different zoning district. Among the properties that my client owns and I'm hoping we're going to get the map up on the screen among the properties that my client owns when he assembled seven, three of them are in one zoning category. Four is the other. Candidly, the city probably should never have split a block into two zoning categories.

54:05 – 54:26Speaker 20

It just doesn't really make sense. We've had several public hearings. 100 of the people that attended and we have two commissioners who said that they watched this. I know it's in Commissioner Hernandez's district. 100% of the people that spoke spoke in favor of it.

54:26 – 55:12Speaker 20

There has not been a single person that raised any objection at either of the two town meetings. I will proffer that we have our planner here, Leslie Del Monte, who will testify that we have satisfied every single criteria for zoning. Our architect is here who will testify the same thing. Your city staff is also their report is also considered competent, substantial evidence in the record. So I am proffering that every single piece of competent substantial evidence in the record shows that the rezoning is appropriate for anybody that may have any concern.

55:12 – 55:34Speaker 20

Ah, that's good. We now have what I was looking for. Just to explain a little better let's see. Okay, it sort of fades out. Can I try yours? Maybe yours is stronger. Which is laser?

55:36Speaker 1

don't don't all right.

55:38 – 55:52Speaker 20

I've got a all right. It starts and then seems to disappear. Okay. If you look at the box in purple, that's Hollywood 9 Phase 1. That building is already completed.

55:52 – 56:30Speaker 20

If you look to the left of that in the red box, you'll see that part of that is in the yellow background, which is the FH2. And just about a third of the block, maybe a little less, is in the orange, which is PS3. The area to the north of the purple box and about a third of the red box, that area is already FH2. If you look to the north of that in the Salmon, that's the Young Circle zoning. Young Circle zoning is the densest in the city.

56:30 – 56:59Speaker 20

It is taller than we're asking for. It is denser than we're asking for. If you look to the property to the left, the purple right across the street, that's PD zoning. PD zoning is actually technically even denser than the YC, because that's write your own zoning. So we're surrounded by density that's either the same height or the same density or denser.

57:01 – 57:24Speaker 20

In terms of any concern about the height, we will be amending it from 140 feet to 140 feet. There is no change in the height. There is a change in the FAR ratio. And that's the only reason we're here. But the height of the PS3 and the FH2 are both one hundred and And forty

57:28 – 58:09Speaker 20

we've only heard compliments about the Hollywood 9 phase one. It's the exact same design team, same architect, same GC, same developer. And everybody liked Hollywood 9. We have, by the way, excess parking. Not a lot, but people say, oh, you don't have enough parking. We've exceeded the parking requirement here. And I have, as I said, unless you have questions for them, I'm not going to call the architect or planner. But I am proffering their testimony. And they are available to answer any questions. And I'm available to answer any questions now if you have any.

58:09Speaker 1

Thank you, counsel. Now we'll just hear the public comment. And Commissioner Hernandez is queued to speak and make a motion. So go have ahead

58:17Speaker 20

the right to respond.

58:18Speaker 1

You got it. You got it. Anne Ralston?

58:25 – 59:08Speaker 24

Afternoon. I don't have a problem with the project. What I have a problem with is why why have zoning laws? We change them to accommodate whatever high rise wants to go in there. So why not just make it a zoning map that you can put anything, anywhere, at any time? Because, excuse me, we seem to change the zoning laws to accommodate whatever seems to go. Now, don't have a problem with the project. I think it'd be a complement in that particular block. I know what it looked like before. So that's not the issue. The issue is constantly changing zoning maps or qualifications for what can and cannot go in there. That's my problem with this.

59:09Speaker 1

Thank you, Anne. Let's go ahead to Commissioner Hernandez.

59:14 – 59:28Speaker 5

JAMES Thank you, Mayor. I've actually talked to the people that live on the block and nearby, and they're extremely happy with the construction that took place and how the construction took place as well. So motion to approve.

59:29 – 59:40Speaker 1

right. We have a motion from Commissioner Hernandez, second from Commissioners Vice Mayor Coleri, and even a third from Commissioner Biederman. Let's go ahead and read the ordinance and call the roll call vote.

59:41 – 1:00:32Speaker 19

ANNETTE An ordinance of the city of Hollywood, Florida changing the zoning designation of 1.11 acres generally located on 19th Avenue between Jackson And Van Buren Streets, municipally known as 1841 To 1857 Jackson Street, 1856 Van Buren Street, and folio numbers 5,140 two-fifteen-one -seven thousand five hundred and fifty and five thousand one hundred forty two-fifteen-one-seven 540 from PS3, Parkside High Intensity Mixed Use District, to FH2 Federal Highway Medium High Intensity Mixed Use District, amending the city's official zoning map to reflect the change in zoning designation and providing for an effective date.

1:00:33Speaker 4

Commissioner Schuham.

1:00:36Speaker 2

BERNSTEIN: BERNSTEIN: Yes.

1:00:39Speaker 5

CHRISTIAN Yes. Yes.

1:00:42Speaker 1

CHRISTIAN Alright. Thank you so much. Thank Yes. You for bringing

1:00:51Speaker 20

the admiration. Members vice mayor and members of the commission.

1:00:53 – 1:01:26Speaker 1

Yep. You. And, Anne, just to respond to you, you know, our our zoning code and zoning codes all over the country are living and breathing documents. And when there is a proposal through a rezoning application that is consistent with the furtherance of the city's goals, reflects the conditions in a particular neighborhood, then when it's found consistent with criteria, we are are fluid just like every other city in the country to help further the city's goals and the goals of our property owners. And that's the answer to your question.

1:01:27 – 1:01:51Speaker 1

So all right, let's go ahead to item 48, ladies and gentlemen. Item 48 is an ordinance of the City Commission and City of Hollywood amending chapter 98 of the code of ordinances entitled Marine and Waterway Regulations, Boats and Other Vessels, to Create a Vessel Exclusion Zone Providing for Severability and Repeal Provision. This is an ordinance on first reading, of course, by the Department of Fire Rescue and Beach Safety. Welcome to Chief Levy.

1:01:52 – 1:02:25Speaker 26

Good afternoon, mayor, vice mayor, commissioners, the manager of staff, Jeff Levy, fire department. This ordinance revision represents the first step in the permitting process at your direction for the exclusionary buoys. If you remember back in August, the Fire Rescue Beach Safety Department was tasked with providing a recommendation for exclusionary buoys. And the recommendation for the yardage was 218 yards offshore. Knowing that recommendation was made, we researched, found out that our existing city ordinance is at 300 yards.

1:02:26 – 1:02:44Speaker 26

As part of the permitting process with the state of Florida, we contacted the state of Florida. They did not have a record of our existing city ordinance on file that dates back to the mid seventies. So at the direction of the commission, we're tasked with revising the current city ordinance, which is it's on your agenda for today.

1:02:44 – 1:03:20Speaker 1

Thank you, chief. Pat, are there any speaker cards? I suspect there may be. All right. All right. Thank you so much. We're going to go ahead and call our speaker cards. You have up to three minutes to speak, if you like. And I'll go ahead and call them as I have them. Let's go ahead with Phyllis Levy, followed by Alan Koenigsberg, followed by Todd Graham. So after Phyllis will be Alan. If you can get yourself ready, Alan, and you'll be up next. Ms. Levy, go ahead.

1:03:20 – 1:03:42Speaker 27

Good afternoon, commissioners. I've lived in South Florida for forty six years. And like many residents, I care deeply about the safety of everyone who uses our coastline swimmers, divers, and boaters alike. I understand the desire for consistency with neighboring cities. Boaters don't necessarily recognize municipal lines in the water.

1:03:42 – 1:04:12Speaker 27

From their perspective, the shoreline is one continuous path between inlets. But true consistency for safety should reflect reef geography and scale. Hallandale has only point eight miles of shoreline and four non permitted markers placed to 218 yards. Their written ordinance does not establish 218 yards as a safety standard. Hollywood, by contrast, has over seven miles of reef lined shoreline.

1:04:12 – 1:04:50Speaker 27

We are the largest stretch of beach by far between Port Everglades and Hollover Inlets. Hallandale is the only neighboring city using 218 yards, and it has one of the shortest shorelines. If we are talking about regional consistency, it should be based on the most expansive and reef dense shoreline, not on the smallest one. Hollywood has a responsibility to lead by example. The largest shoreline in this region should set the standard for safety and not lower it. Thank you for your time and consideration.

1:04:50Speaker 1

Thank you. Alan Koenigsberg, followed by Todd Graham, then Rick Goldman.

1:05:01 – 1:05:33Speaker 17

Good afternoon. I've been a resident off and on of Hollywood since 1957. Resident of South Florida almost all that time, except for some years in college and law school. Florida Statute Section 327.46 enables the establishment of boating restricted areas adjacent to public bathing beaches or swim areas. The intent is to promote water safety.

1:05:34 – 1:06:24Speaker 17

The proposed city ordinance being considered is also intended to promote public safety. Whether the proposed ordinance is defective for a failure to actually designate the public bathing beach or swimming area pursuant to section 347.46 sub 13 is not clear. Arguably, section ninety nine point zero one and ninety nine point zero two of the City Of Hollywood's code of ordinances attempts to but fails to make that designation. Hollywood's reefs, natural and artificial, are attractive to swimmers, divers, and boaters. Presently, we have a 300 yard vessel exclusion zone to give boaters and swimmers space to enjoy the ocean.

1:06:25 – 1:06:49Speaker 17

That zone approaches the natural reef line while fully encompassing our artificial reefs. Both constitute our near shore reefs. Our neighboring cities also have vessel exclusion zones. Most relevant is the zone associated with the city of Dania. It is most meaningful since the majority of Hollywood's boat traffic comes from the North.

1:06:50 – 1:08:09Speaker 17

Boaters exit Port Everglades, travel south across Dania, where their 300 yard exception zone, must then cross beyond the end of the pier, which further extends, and they enter Hollywood beyond our 300 meter, 300 yard exclusion zone. Approaching Hollywood boats are already at or beyond our current 300 yard zone, An argument that suggests our standard should be the limit in use by Hallandale fails to recognize both the minimal boat traffic coming from that direction and the minimum section of beach that town controls. The proposed ordinance would reduce our vessel exclusion zone by more than 25%, with the publicity associated, especially with the new reefs, the new man made artificial reefs, probably increasing both the boat traffic and the use by the public as swimmers and divers. In other words, we have reduced the area of activity while increasing the level of activity that is inconsistent with public safety. I thank you for your time and attention.

1:08:09Speaker 1

Thank you. Todd Graham, followed by Rick Goldman, then Heather Schiller.

1:08:17 – 1:08:54Speaker 28

Thank you, mayor, commissioners. How are doing? My name is Todd Graham. I own a small business. I'm a dive instructor in a dive shop, relatively close. I dive in Hollywood every day. So myself, my staff, somebody's out there. We're taking out divers, snorkelers. I've been diving here for thirty five years or something like that. So I'm pretty familiar with the area. I'm pretty familiar with Dania as well and the boulders and the rocks and the pier and the whole nine yards. I'm out there every day, like I said, and with dive flags and taking out snorkelers and divers. So I just wanted to put my 2¢ in just to make it easier for you guys, hopefully make a decision. Kind of the expert on public safety. I teach public safety for fire departments, police departments.

1:08:54 – 1:09:31Speaker 28

I've been doing this for the last twenty five years. So my only worry is as we pull the buoys in, so it's just a little more dangerous for all the divers and snorkelers going out there. Right now, since we just created the new artificial reef, they're awesome. They're great. And I think they're going to help promote businesses and some tourism that goes into it. But right now, I see them going out there and I've the boats park on the buoys as it goes into it. And I've seen the divers and the snorkels who have to carry a flag with them everywhere they go, any time we go out whatsoever. They have to have a flag. And I've just seen them get kind of tangled up near the boats. So from my perspective, to make it safer, I think we should push the buoys out a little bit further.

1:09:31 – 1:10:12Speaker 28

So that encompasses even the Dania area, kind of the boulders, that kind of stuff, some of the reef. Most of the snorkelers don't really go past 300 feet, to be honest with you. Some of the divers definitely do. We might go out to 400. So that would be better, but I don't know if that's really applicable to what we're trying to pull off here. So I think that the 300 is probably a more middle of the road kind of circumstance. Yes, ma'am? Yards. I apologize. Yards. Yards. The dive flag also is typically they're going to be 300 feet, which is about 100 yards per se away from them. Boaters don't necessarily follow that. Unfortunately, this is just South Florida. So the rules are kind of ambiguous, even though we're supposed to do it.

1:10:12 – 1:10:35Speaker 28

But I've personally almost been hit by a few boats. But I've been doing this a long time. So I'm pretty quick on my fin as far as it goes into it. But I'm just trying to make it safe for the people out there. So we do take out tours. And I make sure I have instructors and people with them all the time to keep an eye on them just to keep them all under control. I'm here for more information. I've talked to the chief as well if anyone needs any information or clarity because I'm on the water every day.

1:10:35Speaker 1

Thank you, Mr. Graham.

1:10:37Speaker 1

Rick Goldman followed by Heather Schiller. Then will be Marci Camarco. Rick, welcome.

1:10:48 – 1:11:11Speaker 29

I'm Rick Goldman. I live in South Lake, and I've been diving Hollywood Beach since 1995. Depending on the weather, I'm in the water anywhere from twice a month to twice a week or even more. I'm here to voice my concern about the proposal to move the exclusion zone from 300 yards to two eighteen yards. Logic dictates that bringing motorized boats closer to swimmers and divers does not make people safer.

1:11:11 – 1:11:51Speaker 29

Hollywood has a very unique underwater ecosystem. Just to compare, Howlandale allows the boats to be at two eighteen yards because there's nothing there but sand. For that reason, nobody's diving or snorkeling there. We have the Yellow Brick Road, the Perry Street Rocks, both starting at 200 to two fifty yards. And then the Mermaid Artificial Reef starting at 165 yards. And our Natural 1st Reef at 200 to 300 yards. When I'm on a boat, I don't go anywhere near that. We head out to the 3rd Reef, a mile offshore. Experienced divers and boaters don't want to be anywhere near shore. The further from shore you go, the better the visibility.

1:11:51 – 1:12:15Speaker 29

And the bigger fish aren't in the shallower waters. But the tourists and families swimming to the mermaids is the main attraction. These artificial reefs are visited by beginners, tourists who just bought their first mask and snorkel. Most of the time, I'm diving from the beach. And I do a thirty or forty minute swim to the second reef, which is what a lot of the more experienced divers and snorkelers do.

1:12:15 – 1:12:42Speaker 29

But here's the safety issues. The mermaids are at 165 to 185 yards. And it takes one minute, or two if you go slowly, to get from the mermaids to the natural ledges of the first reef at 200 to two fifty yards. This means our most inexperienced snorkelers are moving between these two points. And if you approve a two eighteen yard boat line, you're placing a high speed lane for boats directly in the middle of the first reef and the artificial reef.

1:12:43 – 1:13:26Speaker 29

The people on the mermaids are usually beginners who may not even know that they need a dive flag. Similarly, anyone with a boat that close to shore is probably a beginner or a visitor who just rented a boat. And they don't realize they've got to stay 100 yards away from a dive flag. By moving the line to two eighteen yards, you're guaranteeing inexperienced boaters will be flying by inexperienced snorkelers. Putting these two groups in each other's path doesn't increase safety. It's an accident waiting to happen. If this change is approved and a tragedy occurs, the warnings we're giving you today will be a matter of public record. Let's keep the exclusion zone at 300 yards and protect our visitors and the beginning snorkelers.

1:13:26Speaker 1

Thank you, Rick. Heather Schuller, followed by Marcy Camarco, then Isabel Barney.

1:13:37 – 1:14:16Speaker 30

Good afternoon, mayor and commissioners. My name is Heather. I've lived on Hollywood Beach for nearly thirty years. I love Hollywood. Today, I'm deeply invested in protecting our beach for future generations to enjoy safely. I'm either in, on, or near the water almost every day. I'm a boater, a diver, a paddle boarder, and I've been shore snorkeling our reefs since 1997. First, I wanna say that I support chief Levy's original safety recommendation to place boundaries past the near shore reefs. That principle makes sense. What we are respectfully asking is that the same principle be applied to the full near shore reef system, not just the Mermaid Reefs.

1:14:17 – 1:14:45Speaker 30

In Hollywood, our near shore reefs include the Mermaid Reefs, Perry Rocks, and our first reef located roughly 300 yards and beyond. These are among the most heavily used and accessible reef areas for shore snorkelers and divers. A boundary at two eighteen yards would unintentionally create a boat traffic lane that shore snorkelers would need to cross to reach these popular reefs. That reduces safe access for shore snorkelers. It does not make us safer.

1:14:46 – 1:15:21Speaker 30

The commission's urgency to create clear separation between boats and swimmers is understandable, especially with the addition of the new mermaid reefs. But proper distance from shore is the most reliable way to create that separation. Broward County reports that 9,400,000 residents and visitors use our natural and artificial reefs annually not ours, but Broward County. Our reefs are heavily used, though. As the largest shoreline between Port Everglades and Hollow River Inlets, Hollywood carries an even greater responsibility to set the strongest safety standard for this region.

1:15:22 – 1:16:00Speaker 30

If a boundary is placed just past the inner reef ledge, it would protect the highest concentration of shore snorkelers while still maintaining equal access for boaters. For example, to reach Perry Rocks, a boater typically swims only a few minutes from their vessel while a shore snorkeler swims roughly twice that distance. This is the simplest and most responsible time to make any necessary adjustments before amending the ordinance and before permits are filed. Our request is straightforward. Please follow Chief Levy's sound advice to place boundaries past near shore reefs and to include peri rocks and the inner reef ledge within that protection.

1:16:01Speaker 30

We have the opportunity to make things safer for more people, not only for Hollywood, but for our entire region. This

1:16:09Speaker 30

the moment for Hollywood to lead by example and to set the standard for safety. Thank you very much for your time and consideration.

1:16:15Speaker 1

Thank you, Heather. Let's go to Marcy Camarco, followed by Isabel Barney, then Avi Blick.

1:16:30 – 1:17:13Speaker 31

Hello. I live at 304 Oak Street, right off the Perry Street Rocks. I'm a diver and a boater. I own four paddleboards. I often encourage neighbors and friends to come paddleboarding on the Perry Street Rocks. I would encourage any of you, if you're invited, to come and see why we are so passionate about this ecosystem. Okay. Even with the boundaries currently at 300 yards, we occasionally encounter boats coming too close. Lifeguards try to wave them off, but it's nearly impossible to control a moving vessel. Reducing the boundary to two eighteen yards will make the area more dangerous and more confusing.

1:17:13 – 1:17:42Speaker 31

As a boater, I already know I have to stay approximately 300 yards off of the shore. It's the law. Lowering it sends the wrong message. If anything neighboring Hallandale should go to 300 yards and not two eighteen and stay consistent with us. Nova Southeastern University has recently installed thousands of small fragments on Perry Street rocks to promote new growth.

1:17:42 – 1:18:07Speaker 31

Our reefs are shrinking. On weekends, holidays, and during lobster season, our shorelines are already filled with anchored boats and dive flags. Moving the boundaries will bring them even closer to the shoreline. Many of these vessels depart from Fort Lauderdale and Port Of Miami. The boaters are not dining in our restaurants or staying in our hotels.

1:18:07 – 1:18:44Speaker 31

It is swimmers and beachgoers who support our local businesses. The Florida Reef Track is the fifth largest coral reef ecosystem in the world. And Hollywood has one of the only near shore reef systems in The United States. As shown on the map, changing the boundary would place the line in front of the near shore rocks, encouraging boaters to come closer to swimmers, snorkelers, divers, creating a safety issue. This ecosystem and our swimmers need to be protected. Our beach is a treasure to both residents and visitors. Thank you.

1:18:44Speaker 1

Thank you. Isabel Barney, followed by Avi Blick, then Julie Greenfield.

1:18:54 – 1:19:09Speaker 32

Good afternoon, commissioners and mayor. I have a map, and I was wondering if it could be put on the screen so you know the maps that we look at. Is that possible? You can do it?

1:19:09Speaker 1

Can give it to the clerk if you like. But

1:19:15 – 1:19:45Speaker 32

The first reef of Hollywood North Beach is a high use near shore reef running roughly two eighteen to 300 plus yards from shore. A lot of people are mentioning this and it's very important. Divers and snorkellers regularly swim out from shore, enjoy marine life. Some harvest lobsters during the season. The first reef is a natural reef area, but it also includes the Perry Rocks Artificial Reef.

1:19:45 – 1:20:15Speaker 32

The 1st Reef does not include the newer mermaid monuments closer 60 to 185 yards, although I visit those regularly on my swim back to shore. The 1st Reef has long functioned as predictable shared recreational space. I've enjoyed swimming there from shore with a dive flag since 1989. This is my concern. Today, are voting on a proposal to move the vessel exclusion line from 300 to two eighteen yards.

1:20:15 – 1:20:45Speaker 32

On paper, those numbers seem close. Operationally, the safety difference is quite significant. First, the 300 yard line currently acts as a protected buffer. Boaters are used to operating outside the snorkeling band. Moving the vessel exclusion line from 300 to two eighteen converts the first reef snorkeling zone into a shared boat traffic space, eliminating the cushion that absorbs normal human error.

1:20:45 – 1:21:19Speaker 32

Second, Florida 100 yard dive flag is reactive. It depends on voters seeing a low profile flag like this. This is, by the way, the normal flag that is 12 by 12, and this is very difficult to see by a boater. Judging distance correctly and reacting time despite layered chop and congestion, a fixed 300 yard racial exclusion line is preventative. It separates incompatible uses rather than relying on split second compliance.

1:21:19 – 1:21:58Speaker 32

Third, reaction time matters. At 300 miles per hour, a vessel travels about 44 feet per second. Sandler weighs multiple flags or drifting snorkelers can reduce visibility. Logic tells me that moving the boat exclusion zone into the snorkel area reduces avoidance time and greatly increases the risk of boat collision with humans on the water. Fourth, this is not remote offshore water. The 200 to 300 yard band is consistent, family friendly, tourist, heaviest, clean area, predictable, recurring use, argues for predictable separation. Thank you.

1:21:58 – 1:22:09Speaker 1

Thank you so much. Avi Blick, followed by Julie Greenfield, then Patty Hanley.

1:22:10 – 1:22:48Speaker 33

Good evening, and thank you for everyone for being here city leaders, staff, community members, for your work in improving water safety. We truly appreciate the intention behind this ordinance and the effort to make our coastline safer for everyone. I am here with a simple and respectful request. Please set the boundary at 300 yards. Our message is straightforward. Two eighteen yards is not safer than 300 yards. Shrinking as safety buffer does not increase safety. When we are talking about people in the water, divers, snorkeling families, children I take my four year old there. She's starting to snorkel there. Distance equals protection.

1:22:48 – 1:23:24Speaker 33

Distance equals reaction time. Distance equals margin of error. This is not about opposing boating. It's not about limiting access. It's about separation clear, predictable separation between vessels and people in the water. We know this ordinance is intended to improve safety. We're simply asking for a refinement that strengthen that goal. Setting the boundary at 300 yards provides a more meaningful buffer between boats and swimmers. It allows for currents, drifts, visibility changes, and human error, all real factors in open water. We also recommend that the boundary expands past the near shore reef system.

1:23:25 – 1:24:06Speaker 33

That reef is where snorkellers, divers, gather. It is a living ecosystem and a natural draw for residents and visitors alike. Protecting that area is protecting our people. Hollywood is increasingly becoming a reef sanctuary, not only for one group of people, for all communities across Florida. Families here introduce their children to snorkeling. Dive groups travel here. Environmental educators bring students. This reef system is a shared natural asset. And the city has an opportunity to model what thoughtful coast stewardship looks like. Now is the simplest and more responsible time to take this adjustment before the ordinance language is finalized and the permitting process begins.

1:24:06 – 1:24:35Speaker 33

Small refinements are much easier now than later. Making this change today prevents complications tomorrow. Again, we're aligned in the goal, safety first. This is about protecting people in the water. It's about ensuring that boat traffic and swimmers have a clear, adequate separation. And it's about choosing the safer buffer when given the option. 300 yards is a reasonable measured safety focused refinement. Thank you for your time and consideration and your commitment to keeping our water safe for everyone. Thank you.

1:24:35 – 1:24:49Speaker 1

Thank you. Let's go to Julie Greenfield, followed by Patty Henley, then Heather Schuller. I think Heather already spoke, right? All right. So Julie followed by Patty, and then will be Marcy Leturnau.

1:24:49Speaker 34

All right. Okay.

1:24:57Speaker 1

Go ahead, Julie. We'll figure it all out afterwards.

1:24:59 – 1:25:42Speaker 34

Okay. Mayor, vice mayor, commissioner, city staff, Chief Levy, thank you. I truly believe that we all have the same goal in mind, and that is safety. Safety for all those that enjoy our waterways. You heard me speak before. Right now, I am really concerned that we had an ordinance. And I recognize that FWC didn't recognize it, but we had it for nearly fifty years or about fifty years. I know it was in the 70s for 300 yards. I don't understand how making it 82 yards closer increases safety. That's the opposite, as all my other residents have talked about.

1:25:42 – 1:26:15Speaker 34

What is even more concerning, when I read through the ordinance and I have highlighted here our previous ordinance talks about prohibiting within 300 yards of the low water mark. The new ordinance has it at the high water mark. So now we're even limiting it even further. So if you're not familiar, that high water mark would be closer to the dunes versus the low water mark is at low tide. Low tide is going to push that zone even farther out.

1:26:15 – 1:26:53Speaker 34

So why we would continue to change it, where we're continuing to bring that zone closer, closer to shore absolutely increases the danger. I want to tell you a personal story that happened since I spoke to you last. I hope that you all will trust me when I tell you my husband and I are sober skippers. We do not bring alcohol on our boat, which is legal, by the way. You can drink and operate a vessel. We were diving on November 15. We finished our dive. There was a dive charter. We were up in Fort Lauderdale, Okay, because of the mooring buoys that we've talked about. We pulled up.

1:26:53 – 1:27:36Speaker 34

We watched. We always keep an eye on the divers that are with these groups. They're usually in pairs. They have the dive flag that Isabel showed you. It's very small. We decided to leave. So we're probably going my guess is about 25 miles an hour on our way back into the inlet. My husband throwed back the throttle and put us in neutral. Scared me to death. We are watching. I'm not on my phone. He's watching. We're paying attention. There were two divers that got separated from that big group. We almost missed them. We are experienced. We are divers. We know. Because why? When that flag if you're coming onto that flag and that flag is this direction, you're not going to see it.

1:27:36 – 1:27:58Speaker 34

It was only when we were next to them that we saw them. I still have goosebumps. We radioed. We watched them trying to search for them. I had to call the office to get them to get these divers help. Making this zone closer to shore, you're going to see more incidents and accidents like this. And we're the experienced ones.

1:27:58Speaker 1

Thank you, Patty Hanley. And Marcy Laturno, not here. Okay.

1:28:07 – 1:28:25Speaker 35

JAMES Good afternoon, members of the commission. I'm Patty Hanley. I'm a Southeast Florida native and a full time Hollywood resident. My husband and I have lived in North Beach for thirty five years. I have enjoyed all of these thirty five years swimming, snorkeling, and free diving off of our Hollywood Beach.

1:28:25 – 1:29:01Speaker 35

I'm also a certified scuba rescue diver. And I do love the new Guardian Reef sites. Thank you for those. I'm here to respectfully ask the commission to consider amending the proposed two eighteen yard boundary before changing the ordinance and applying for permits. And although I am in general support of the proposed ordinance, I have issue with the language specifically changing the vessel exclusion zone distance from the existing 300 yards to a reduced safety margin of two eighteen yards from our beach.

1:29:02 – 1:30:02Speaker 35

It is difficult for me to understand why a reduced allowable distance from shore would contribute to safety, protect city liability, and practical use of our beaches for us swimmers and snorkelers. Reducing the safety zone from 300 to two eighteen yards exposes us to an expanded risk that could be prevented by leaving the current 300 yard limitation in place. The city also recently placed an artificial reef system at approximately 185 yard distance from shore. And the current vessel exclusion zone of 300 yards is in compliance with the standing Florida statute that requires vessels to avoid dive flags by at least 100 yards. And the current 300 yard limitation accommodates this for snorkelers visiting the reef system, while the proposed change would clearly be in conflict with the state mandated vessel safety operating requirement.

1:30:02 – 1:30:16Speaker 35

I ask for your consideration for the language in this PO to remain at 300 yard distance from our shore for these reasons. And I thank you very much for your time and your consideration on this matter. Thank you.

1:30:16 – 1:30:57Speaker 1

All right. Well, you to all of you who came out to speak. This is an item that, as some of you know, we've already discussed here on the city commission. I just do want to point out, besides Hallandale Beach, there's also Miami Dade County and Hollow River Park. There's also the city of Miami Beach. All of them are well more narrow than the two eighteen yards. And when we talk about two eighteen yards, we're talking over six fifty feet. I believe it's six fifty four feet. That's a pretty significant distance from the shore. And some of you mentioned that the reef system is pretty wide and it's we know we know what the reefs are out there.

1:30:57 – 1:31:29Speaker 1

I'm a scuba diver as well since I was 15. Also a boater and the reef system is very wide. So even if you were to put the buoys at 300 or two eighteen, you're still gonna be within the mix of the reef system. And I think there's a lot to go a lot to say for safety when in fact for the past many years that all of you have been beach diving and we've all been snorkeling and scuba diving off the shore of Hollywood, we haven't had any any buoys at all. This is a safety measure to put in buoys so that boats know what line not to cross.

1:31:30 – 1:32:14Speaker 1

And so even if you're farther out in open water beyond the 218 yards, which is a significant distance from shore, you would be in no different change than you would be with the buoys that we would be putting in at two eighteen. You're still in open water today. There haven't been buoys. So this in no way makes anything less safe. If anything, it makes it way more safe, actually providing a line for where the boats know they can't cross to protect the swimmers. Oftentimes, there's vessel exclusion zones are meant to protect swimmers. We can't protect everybody in open water. That's why there is a law that requires dive flags everywhere, no matter what the depth. And so I know you as divers know that. Boaters, I agree that sometimes it's hard to see a dive flag.

1:32:14 – 1:32:46Speaker 1

I won't deny that. I always have my eyes peeled as I'm going. But boaters who are out here need to know that. They need to know what the law is. And then we could never place buoys farther out enough to protect, everyone. The dive flag is the known thing to look out for in the water. And the vessel exclusion buoys are what is meant to protect the shoreline. And so again, there's two different two steps of protection here. One is the buoys. The other one is dye flags. Chief, you came up. I don't know if you wanted to say anything else.

1:32:46Speaker 26

I was just here to answer questions.

1:32:48Speaker 1

Alright. Commissioner Gruber.

1:32:50 – 1:33:33Speaker 3

Thank you, Mayor. So what I'm gathering from all the speakers is that you're okay with a vessel exclusionary buoy but you'd prefer it at 300 yards. Right. So if my mom is tuning into this, it seems like I think we need to back is to where this all started. Okay? So if you're tuning into this for the first time, people are led to believe that we are getting rid of existing useful vessel exclusionary buoys that have been there and been working and moving them in. The reason this came about and I started on this five years ago. Before we even talked about the reefs, I said we don't have vessel exclusionary buoys. I'm in the water all the time. I surf.

1:33:33 – 1:34:08Speaker 3

I snorkel. I swim. And I've come close to getting hit by boats. And I'm boating not as often as I'd like, but I go boating. And the boaters don't know in Hollywood how close they can get. So I brought it up. Commissioner Schuham, you said nobody wants them. I was told that people said aesthetically they don't want to look at them. People don't believe that they're even effective to for safety. But so I'm just wondering, like like, yes, if we were if those were there at 300 yards, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

1:34:08 – 1:34:52Speaker 3

But so we didn't even know, correct me if I'm wrong, staff, that we had this 300 yard thing. We had no vessel exclusionary buoys. So we tasked, especially after the close shore reefs were put in, then we realized, wow, this is even more dangerous now. So we tasked staff to come up with, okay, how do we do this? What's the process? What should we do? So it's it's not you're the speakers are making it as if we are changing something that was there and working. There was nothing there. So I mean, honestly, I ask all of you because you from what you guys have said, I really do consider you experts in the field as far as what you do. Why wouldn't anybody have said, Hey, you know, don't have any vessel exclusionary buoys out there?

1:34:52 – 1:35:29Speaker 3

Like, so, you know, to the dive instructor, the same thing. I mean, if you're teaching safety, you know, was it okay that we didn't have those? And and did anyone know it was 300 yards up until a few months ago? Because we didn't even know that and the state had no record of it. So we're looking to put them in for safety. Staff came up with two eighteen, which is similar to our neighboring city and similar to others. There's some cities in Florida I did the research that don't even have it. You can dock your boat on the beach. So it's different per city and that's how we do it. So I I mean, I'm okay with staff's recommendation of 218.

1:35:29 – 1:36:10Speaker 3

We are putting in the 218 with buoys there is better than the 300 with nothing there. And that that's what was there. So it's not as if we're changing something that was there and existing. We're it wasn't there. It didn't exist. And not one person said to us, hey, we should have buoys. And I brought it up many times here and I was told, no, we don't need them. We shouldn't have them. Nobody wants to look at them. So I'm okay with the two eighteen that staff recommended. There's nothing there now and that's something. That gives boaters an opportunity. And and there are people on boats that that are happy just snorkeling those little reefs. They can come within wait. So a 185 yards is the farthest reef, right?

1:36:10Speaker 26

Artificial reef, yes.

1:36:11 – 1:36:51Speaker 3

Farthest right, the ones that we put in. So that the closest would be 30 yards, so 9,100 feet that a boat could get and they could swim and snorkel those reefs if they wanted to. Not everybody wants to do advanced stuff. I'm perfectly fine snorkeling those reefs. I love those reefs. I do them all the time. And then the snorkelers and the swimmers with their dive flag could go out there and the boats know they can't get that close. I'm okay, chief, unless you've listened to something and think it should be a different distance. I think staffs put a lot of time in it. The fact that we don't even have those out there is sickening to me. And I think it's time to do it. Yeah. Motion to approve.

1:36:51 – 1:37:02Speaker 1

Alright. We have a motion from commissioner Gruber and second from which Hernandez to approve the ordinance. And chief, just for clarification, this is an ordinance draft that you've already submitted to the state and they've approved and formed. Correct?

1:37:02 – 1:37:20Speaker 26

So the state has tentatively approved it. It has to go once we do ratify the ordinance, then it officially gets filed with the state. But the language has been approved with the state. I will say that there's some clerical issues with it that we have to adjust before the second reading. But that will be that was identified.

1:37:20 – 1:38:06Speaker 1

And just before I go to Commissioner Schum, I just want to point out something that Commissioner Gruber said. And that's fairness for the access of boaters to be able to access the reefs that the beach divers say they want to access. We don't want to push boaters beyond 300 yards and have them not be able to access the same reefs that you all talked about at, you know, in the 200 or so yard access issue. So this would penal having it 300 yards would really remove boaters from being able to access, snorkel, or dive all the reefs that you all mentioned are closer than 300 yards. And let's also keep in mind I did a little measuring the pier at Sunny Isles Beach, I think it's called Newport, is way shorter than two eighteen.

1:38:06 – 1:38:45Speaker 1

The hull over Jetty is way shorter than two eighteen. And so two eighteen is is quite a distance and there a line needs to be drawn somewhere. As far as Hallandale Beach goes, I know there's been a lobbying effort to try to get Hallandale to change their 300 yards, which apparently is not something that's recorded with the state either. Or to to record theirs, to change theirs from two eighteen to 300, I understand there's a lobbying effort there that you all are trying to, you know, sort of poke at the rationale that the chief said was part of this consideration. But we already made our decision. We think there's good sense in the two eighteen, actually, in the line that we all discussed. Commissioner Schuham.

1:38:46 – 1:39:16Speaker 2

Thanks, Mayor. Well, first, I just want to comment on what you were just saying about the math. The furthest out artificial reefs at 01/1985 so if voters were at 300, even at 300, you're closer to that artificial reef than people coming from shore. So I didn't follow that penalty. Yeah, because 300, you're only I don't know, what is that? 115 yards away, whereas the swimmers are 185 yards away.

1:39:16 – 1:39:46Speaker 1

It's not a pleasure or safe to force someone to swim over 300 feet in current to get to a little snorkel reef. It's way safer to have the boat closer to the destination because the boat is the refuge. So if we push to 300, not only will we be pushing the boaters farther away from the artificial, which I think are too far away, we'd also be creating an inability for boaters to actually snorkel or dive the Yellow Brick Road and the Perry Rocks and the different areas that are way, way closer. That would

1:39:46Speaker 2

be saying dangerous. Mathematically, what you were saying really didn't make DELL: sense because

1:39:49Speaker 3

Walk halfway from the street.

1:39:51 – 1:40:14Speaker 2

GREGORY Okay. Anyway, I want to first kind of divide my comments in two, the first part being the most pressing, which is the 300 yards. And then secondly, as the chief mentioned, there's a bunch of smaller concerns I have in there. And I first wanted to go back in time to August. And you're right.

1:40:14 – 1:40:42Speaker 2

We had asked beach safety to give us a presentation. As you'll remember, there were some errors back in August 27. And we came back based on the presence of some buoys in Hallandale. And based on the drone a drone going over Hallandale and measuring, that's where this two eighteen comes from. So Arlene, if we could put up on the screen, it's a document that's entitled Hallandale, I think.

1:40:42 – 1:41:11Speaker 2

Hallandale or Dania. I just want to share with you the current status of the ordinances of the three cities. And whoever said that we don't know about 300, obviously, wasn't here during the time where we were trying to allow paddleboards because everybody knew about the 300 yard exclusion zone. It's been on the Hollywood books for years. So on your screen now, this is the current Hollywood ordinance.

1:41:12 – 1:41:41Speaker 2

And it simply says, 300 yards from the low water mark along the entire beach. That is the area under our current law for fifty years, you couldn't bring a boat closer. All right, Arlene, the next one should be Dania, if you scroll down. Dania, 300 yards from the low waterline along their entire beach. So basically, the two cities have the same language.

1:41:42 – 1:42:26Speaker 2

And then you scroll down to Hallandale, which is the basis of where we are today. And this is Hallandale. It doesn't say anything about two eighteen yards. It is a sketch. And in that sketch, it says swim area limits. And that swim area is where these buoys were placed, not permitted, not permitted by Hallandale. They're just there. And so, we've kind of, I think, gotten ourselves in a little bit of a twist here. A lot of the boat traffic is coming from the port and it's coming south. So, the first city you're going to hit is Dania, then Hallandale I mean, then Hollywood, Hallandale.

1:42:26 – 1:42:59Speaker 2

So, I think that we're a little bit letting the tail wag the dog with Hallandale. Hallandale it's not a lobbying effort. I think Hallandale heard what was happening here in September, August and September, and said, wait, we don't have anything on our books. So if Dania's at 300, Hollywood's at 300 yards, let's make it consistent. And so I think that that would happen, that Hallandale would be happy to go to 300.

1:42:59 – 1:43:29Speaker 2

And then we would have that consistency along the shoreline. But I wanted to let you all really see this. Because if you remember in August, we didn't have this in front of us. We got to a number, which is an unusual number, of two eighteen based on a drone view of a town that has oneseven or less of the beach length that we have. And then, Arlene, there's a photograph that the chief had of the shoreline.

1:43:30 – 1:44:15Speaker 2

It looks like this. And I think this there's tons of information. But to just keep it simple, I think that the chief did a great job here. And what he did, or his staff did, is they put in an aerial picture of our beach. They, by yellow triangle, identified our mermaid reefs. Green triangle identified natural reefs. The blue line is the line that came out of our conversations in 08/02/2018. The orange line is the existing line at three hundred. That's also in Dania. And the red was 400, which I don't hear even the residents asking for this.

1:44:15 – 1:44:45Speaker 2

So when you look at this map and you see where the green natural reef, the first reef is, you really get a sense of why Dania and Hollywood originally fifty years ago or more probably use the 300 line as their exclusion area. Now, I hear what you're saying, Commissioner Gruber, that FWC hadn't approved this. That's true. But when these laws went into place, that FWC requirement didn't exist. It does exist today.

1:44:45 – 1:45:09Speaker 2

And I think that Hollywood is correct to follow that process. We're going to have to if we want to put in the buoys. But it's not that it was ignored back then. It just didn't exist. So I would really ask the commission to take a look at this particular document because the orange line is what keeps our snorkelers able to go to the natural inner reef safely.

1:45:10 – 1:45:37Speaker 2

It certainly allows boaters to get close to both the natural and the mermaid reefs. And it's consistent with the beaches to our north. And I am confident that if we held that line, we would be consistent with the neighbors to the south. And really, that's the essence of what I wanted to share with you. It's just like sometimes you get to a place based on not there's no reason.

1:45:37 – 1:46:13Speaker 2

And I think today is the day to really make sure we get this right. And in addition to the safety, which is the number one thing for all of us up here, is the safety of people that are snorkeling and swimming and boating, for that matter, we should also consider our reefs. As somebody mentioned, 9,000,000 residents and somewhere here, I think it was $2,000,000,000 of revenue generated by tourists snorkeling our reefs annually in Broward County. It warrants a little bit of protection. So it's a secondary issue to safety.

1:46:13 – 1:46:45Speaker 2

But nevertheless, it's an issue that we should not have that blue line directly on top of the natural reefs. And if you see where that blue line is in comparison to where our natural reefs are, it's worrisome. But the greater worry and I know a lot of these divers. These are Hollywood residents coming here and asking us to not make their recreation less safe. And, you know, that's I think today is the day.

1:46:45 – 1:47:23Speaker 2

And I remember back in August, Mayor, I know there's a desire for all of us to be on the same page. And back in August, I knew in my gut that we had a 300 yard exclusionary area. But we relied on staff. We came back in September. We had the correct information. And it was represented, don't worry. We will have other opportunities to come and look at this. When all the facts come before us, we'll have the opportunity to look at it again. Well, now we have all the facts. We have the fact that from Dania all the way to Hallandale, we're at 300.

1:47:23 – 1:48:08Speaker 2

I personally know that Hallandale will I don't think there will be any issue. They haven't applied for permits. They don't have permits. I think that they would be willing to go to 300 if that's an issue. And in addition to the safety provided at the 300 yard line no pun intended, yard line, 300 yard line is the environmental concern. So I would be happy to support the motion with the adjustment to 300 yards. And again, I'll hold off and reserve some time to talk about some of the other details that the chief mentioned, because I want to make sure we get those correct too. So counsel, what is the process? Do I simply make a motion to amend?

1:48:08Speaker 19

You may make a motion to amend at So And this

1:48:13 – 1:48:26Speaker 2

then it would I would like to make a motion to amend the motion to accept the resolution, initially with the change to 300 yards instead of two eighteen, but reserve the right to clean up some of the Scribner's problems that we're aware of.

1:48:27Speaker 1

So the motion to amend is for two zero eight three hundred yards. Is there a second?

1:48:36Speaker 1

discussion is actually the same discussion. So we'll take a vote on that amendment. And then we'll take the main motion. Commissioner Ocalari?

1:48:44 – 1:49:26Speaker 8

So just for purposes of discussion, so I've always been a proponent of having the buoys for safety purposes. Being in my family adamant divers, snorkelers, I've always asked why we don't have them out there. And yes, it's true. The discussion started off with the paddle boarding. It also started off with visual pollution, I guess you would say. So that puts you in a direction. I mean, let's call an ace an ace and a spade a spade, right? We're all sitting up here. We hear that we don't want this for the visual pollution aspect. That's how this all started in the beginning.

1:49:26 – 1:50:11Speaker 8

It was. So don't say no, this is how it started back in the day. If weren't in the commission chambers, you don't know that. But this is how it started. So here we are now discussing, ultimately it's about safety. Safety, safety, safety. So I think we as a commission want what's safe. But this is why the state gets involved. Is because everybody has their own idea of what they wanna do. And I just did research. Hallandale's 02/18. I received a message from Michelle Lazaro, public record. Somebody's lobbying Hallandale I don't know who it is telling them change your ordinance because Hollywood's about to do theirs. So we don't pit each other against each other. We're one Broward.

1:50:11 – 1:50:37Speaker 8

We're all together in this. And we all want safety. I don't like the fact that I'm getting a message the day of a commission meeting saying, hey, table your item because we're going look at ours first. And let us make our decision and I'll see if I can get people to change their mind. Whatever it is, it's all about safety. And we need to all be together on the same page. Just for example, Sunny Isles vessel limitation is 300. Miami yes, is. I just looked it up.

1:50:38Speaker 8

300 feet. Miami Beach

1:50:42 – 1:51:18Speaker 8

just looked I'm just looking up. I don't know where you're getting your I'm getting mine. If it's wrong, you could correct it. But don't interrupt me, please. Miami Beach, the same 300. Dania Beach, 300 plus because you have to go out and as the mayor, as Chief Levy discussed, If you're going out, that's how you get your boats out into the ocean. You go further out and then you go along. By the time, especially North Beach, it's too soon for them to come in. We're worried more about the South coming up because they have to go out to get back in. Does everybody follow that?

1:51:18 – 1:51:44Speaker 8

So if you're down in Miami and you're coming home and you put your boat in at the inlet, you have to go out from the furthest The Inn is 218, which is Hallandale. So you can hang out, there's no markers as we all talked about this. And then am I saying this wrong chief? And you go in, you have to go back out to the pier to come in. When you're coming out into the ocean, you go out past the 300.

1:51:45 – 1:52:26Speaker 8

And then as you troll down the water, down to wherever your destination is, North Beach is too soon for them to get all the way into the two eighteen exclusionary buoy zone. You get it? So you're going out, then you got to come in. Unless you're focusing on just being a non rule follower, you're going to do that. It's the boats coming from the South. And Hallandale happens to be the issue. Golden Beach doesn't have a vessel ruling. They have none. So the closest you have is Miami Beach. Then you have Sunny Isles. Well, Sunny Isles is the closest. Then Golden Beach, there's really no rules. Then Hallandale's two eighteen. Then Hollywood's 300. I

1:52:29 – 1:52:49Speaker 2

don't want to interrupt you, but I want to make it clear. There is no ordinance in Hallandale at 218. The buoys are there, but they're not permitted. And that's why I think Hallandale took an interest in what was happening here, because they now want to permit their buoys. So I just wanted to point that out. They don't have anything.

1:52:49 – 1:53:18Speaker 8

JULIET So Okay, so obviously, that is how we brought them to be aware. I'm sure they weren't paying attention to our meetings like we're not paying attention to theirs. But regardless of the fact, 300 seems to be the rule. I agree with what the mayor said, being a boater. And anyone could shake their head. I watch the audience. We watch everything that goes on. When you have a boat and you're docked up against a mooring buoy, the waves are stronger the further out you go. Can we all agree on that? It's harder to swim in than it is from the shoreline.

1:53:18 – 1:53:44Speaker 8

You have your waves. But when you get out to the areas of water, it's a little easier for snorkelers. When you're coming in off a buoy, it's a little rougher and it's harder for them to swim in. And it's an enjoyment for everybody because we put this not just for snorkelers, but we put this for all to enjoy. What's most concerning to me is not even the vessel exclusionary portion.

1:53:45 – 1:54:20Speaker 8

To be a boater, 14 is the youngest age. You can't drive a car unless you're 16 and you have so many hours under your belt. If you're a first time boater, you have a ninety minute video, you do a 30 questions and you can get in a boat and drive it. I would be terrified as a first time boat driver to get in a boat and not have the training, But this is allowed. That is what we should all be worried about is the boaters in the water who do not have the experience that is needed to navigate through the waters, whether you have a buoy or not, period.

1:54:22 – 1:55:07Speaker 8

Trying to find the fairness is the biggest issue that I have and making sure that it's safety for all. And our lifeguards having to go out and save a life, you have to save a life, whether it's at 300 or two eighteen or 400. And right now there's nothing there. And that's what started us here today. Is that there's this visionary that, oh, am I at the 300 mark? Am I not? There was nothing allowing you to know where you're at. Now, you know where you're at. And now you know what you're allowed to come into, how far you can come in, or how far you shouldn't be in. And to be honest, I think that everyone should be able to enjoy what we have implemented into our waterways.

1:55:07 – 1:55:47Speaker 8

Which is something really amazing. And I think that it should be fair across the board. Swimmers and boaters. As long as they're doing it the right way. And this implementation of these buoys will actually help set the stage for safety. So I think I'm going back to the 300 mark. And the reason why I am kind of leaning towards that, in a weird way, is that we should be uniformed. We always talk about one Broward. And we should all be one Broward. We should all do what's right. And when I look at the numbers that are on the pack, in case somebody tells me that I'm wrong, really, the majority are at 300.

1:55:47 – 1:56:24Speaker 1

300 feet. Miami Beach and I also did some research. Miami Beach and Miami Dade County are 300 feet for the swim zone, chief. 100 yards for swim zone, which is where they put 100 yards, which is where they put their vessel exclusion. They they exclude vessels only from where people are allowed to swim. In this case, chief, correct me if I'm wrong, with vessel exclusion at 220 yards, 218 yards, the lifeguards aren't necessarily allowing a swimmer to go out 200 yards, right, 600 feet, right? They're going whistle them in when? What is the protocol?

1:56:24 – 1:56:38Speaker 26

So our city ordinance oof, sorry. Chapter 99 of our city ordinance states that any swimmer or snorkeler, diver that is more than 50 yards offshore in the city of Hollywood has to have a diver down flag at 50 yards today.

1:56:38Speaker 8

Well, there you go.

1:56:39Speaker 1

So 50 yards is that's 150 feet.

1:56:42 – 1:56:53Speaker 1

fifty feet. And that's consistent with you know, my experience with our lifeguards that when I want to swim out even what I think is pretty shallow, they still whistle me in and it's I a little have down for you. A little aggravating. But the ordinance is 50 yards.

1:56:54Speaker 1

So this would be another 168 yards beyond that is where that vessel exclusion would be, which is equivalent to like, I don't know, over 400 feet farther.

1:57:04Speaker 1

So there's a great distance between beach swimmers and where they're legally allowed to be right now without a flag and the 218 mark.

1:57:11Speaker 26

And mayor, if I may, just for point of clarification, where the diver down flag boaters must stay an additional 100 yards away from that diver down flag.

1:57:18Speaker 1

Okay. That's a 100 yards. Right. So and look, remember, I I think a big a big aspect of this is also access to the reefs that everyone enjoys

1:57:29 – 1:57:52Speaker 1

For boaters as well. And so if access is for everyone, then you can access it by boat and access it from a swim from shore with a dive flag, both required. And then it's accessible to everyone. If we were to push the lines farther out, then boaters and dive companies can't take dive groups to these reefs. Commissioner Biederman?

1:57:53 – 1:58:20Speaker 16

Thank you, mayor. I could say it's clear as mud right now. First of all, chief, thank you for bringing this for an ordinance change as opposed to just doing a scrivener's error and changing the amount of feet without commission approval. The research that I did it's amazing how we could all do research and come up with different numbers.

1:58:20Speaker 8

Numbers, yeah.

1:58:21Speaker 16

But the research I did was that Dade County is four thirty five feet, which is 145 yards.

1:58:33 – 1:58:55Speaker 16

then one other place you see it, I mean, says 400 feet. So I mean, it's just hard to really come up with the accurate number. I think we're all here for to make sure that we're doing the right thing for all the residents and not these residents or those residents, but the majority of residents. And I don't dive. I don't snorkel.

1:58:55 – 1:59:33Speaker 16

So I got to rely on those on the board that have that experience. And that's something that we all have different experiences on a lot of different things. So we got to rely on each other's information. Being that I know that the three people to my left are snorkelers, divers, boaters, whatever it is, we've to trust their experience. What did I say? Left? Oh, three to my right. And I'm not taking anything away from the public speakers today. But we were elected to represent everybody. So

1:59:34 – 1:59:55Speaker 16

to stick with the two eighteen based on staff and based on what I heard from my colleagues that have the experience that we're looking forward to my right. Unless we get other compelling information that's going to change my mind, I'm leaning towards the ordinance as submitted from staff.

1:59:58Speaker 1

DANIEL Commissioner Kaleri wanted to clarify something. Go ahead.

2:00:04Speaker 8

just want to clarify after I misspoke. It's 300 feet, not yards. And we're talking about two eighteen yards, correct?

2:00:14Speaker 3

It's 700 feet. Right.

2:00:16Speaker 8

In Fort Lauderdale? And also in I'll pull up the next one. But

2:00:24Speaker 1

lot generally.

2:00:24Speaker 8

Time again in general. But I'll double check on that one right now.

2:00:27Speaker 26

I have those measurements.

2:00:28Speaker 26

So just for a point of DAY:

2:00:30Speaker 1

clarification, Dania Beach, as Commissioner Schuhem has mentioned, is 300 yards. They do With also no buoys.

2:00:38 – 2:01:15Speaker 26

JAMES But they also have a caveat in their ordinance that states, if there were markers, it is a 100 yards from the shoreline. But they don't have markers for point of clarification. Hallanda Beach is very vague, as we know. But their buoys are at 218 yards today. Sunny Isles Beach has buoys, and they're between a 100 and a 166 yards, Sunny Isles Beach. Golden Beach mirrors Sunny Isles Beach. Miami Beach has buoys at 100 yards, approximately. Fort Lauderdale Beach has buoys at 100 yards, as well. And Deerfield Beach has an exclusionary zone at 400 feet, which is about 133 yards. So just

2:01:15Speaker 8

So we're even

2:01:16Speaker 1

We're way beyond that. We It would be the farthest, most protected shoreline in all of Broward and Miami Dade County.

2:01:23Speaker 1

All right. Commissioner Hernandez.

2:01:26 – 2:01:55Speaker 5

Thank you, mayor. One of the things that concerns me is beach safety. Not necessarily the swimmers, but the people that have to rescue those swimmers if they actually decide to go beyond that point. So the farther we put the markers, the more the challenges are going to be for individuals who think, I'll race you to the markers and back. And then it becomes a problem for our fire safety individuals that actually rescue them.

2:01:55 – 2:02:40Speaker 5

So I'm comfortable at two eighteen. I thank you for clarifying the different measurements of the different cities because that seems to be where it becomes clear as mud. But whether it's 100 feet or 100 yards, it is actually 100 yards, which is 300 feet. And it becomes because every three feet is one yard. So I'm comfortable at the two eighteen yards. And I'm good with that, because it protects the boaters, gives them a clear line of sight where they can and cannot be. It gives the swimmers where they should or should not be. It gives the ability for anyone who's diving to know that they need to have that flag out there. And it gives our first responders the ability to be able to reach where they need to go in due time. I'm good with the two eighteen yards.

2:02:40 – 2:03:06Speaker 5

And I know there had been discussion. And I also do remember how it came about. It came because of visual pollution. And that's where the push and shove came regarding the distance. I think the distance is a happy medium from what's there from other cities versus where, you know, 300 yards is almost a thousand feet, 900 feet. And it becomes problematic, at least for me. So I'm supporting the ordinance as it comes, as it came in.

2:03:06Speaker 1

All right. Let's hear from Commissioner Quintana, and then we'll take a vote on the amendment. And then we'll have we'll comment, see where we're at after that. Commissioner Quintana.

2:03:16 – 2:03:42Speaker 22

Thank you, mayor. Yeah, I have not been on a boat since I was a little girl. And I know Chief Levy, he keeps standing at the microphone thinking we're going to ask him questions, then we're not. So I I'm was feeling really torn because of what Mr. Graham said about his diving business and his experience.

2:03:44 – 2:04:10Speaker 22

But also, I want to better understand what I've heard the mayor talking about, is that putting it at 300 yards penalizes boaters. And when I was talking with you, chief, you said something about you had a picture where you could show how it's not linear, where the natural reef is, and that that changes. And so for me, like pictures say 1,000 words. Is this the picture you were referring

2:04:10 – 2:04:34Speaker 26

There is another graphic, if Arlene can bring up that other graphic. Do you mind bringing that graphic up? And this was shared by somebody from North Beach. So whoever's in the audience that shared this graphic, thank you. I don't know if you're in the audience. You did, yes. So this is a good graphic also, just to give you a depiction of now, instead of just looking at the geographical satellite image, this gives you a graphic image of what we're looking at here.

2:04:34Speaker 22

explain it to me, please?

2:04:36 – 2:05:06Speaker 26

So you can see that the dotted line is the proposed two eighteen yards. The first solid line past that is the current 300 yards. The brown is the natural reef lines, where our natural reefs are. The gray are the boulders that the artificial reef are the boulders that people keep speaking of. And then you can see the triangles are the mermaid reefs. This is just an area a snapshot of North Beach to give you an idea of where that graphic is.

2:05:06Speaker 1

So chief, this first solid red line is at 300 yards. JAMES Correct. And that's more on top of the reef than the two eighteen is, correct?

2:05:14Speaker 26

JAMES Correct.

2:05:14Speaker 1

Yes, sir. JAMES Thank you. JAMES

2:05:16 – 2:05:31Speaker 22

Right. That is what you said to me when we were speaking, that 300 yards would actually and that was going to be my next question was when you said that 300 yards would actually put more people in the way of where the boats were because of the natural reef.

2:05:31Speaker 26

The 300 yards currently today is on top at least in North Beach is on top of a lot of the natural reef area today.

2:05:39 – 2:06:19Speaker 22

Yeah. Cause I mean, for me, like all of us have said, you know, the issue of safety is pivotal. And so, I mean, I'm just looking at where are people gonna be less likely to be in the line of boats. And when I think about what the other thing I had kind of written down was just I don't know what enforcement looks like on the water for boaters because I'm just thinking about how people drive their cars in South Florida and whether it's like that for boaters. Because for drivers, certainly, they don't pay much attention to where pedestrians are or where bicyclists are, regardless of what the law says.

2:06:19Speaker 22

And that's why we need enforcement. So I'm wondering what enforcement looks like on the water. I don't know.

2:06:25 – 2:06:52Speaker 26

It gives our lifeguards a visual area of where the boaters should and should not be. And it also gives lifeguards the visual of where swimmers should and should not be. Now boaters will see the buoy markers and treat them like traffic cones. So you shouldn't be you'll you'll go down the line of traffic cones. So if you see traffic cones, buoy markers coming up from Hallandale, which they're already at two eighteen yards, then you see ours at two eighteen yards, you'll know to follow that path.

2:06:52 – 2:07:16Speaker 26

If you're coming up from Hallandale, again, Sunny Isles and those other areas, and you see traffic cones coming up the road or coming up the ocean, and then you don't see traffic cones, you don't know where that exclusionary zone is. So if ours is out at 300 yards and Halland Hills and the ones to the south of us are two eighteen or less, you're now going to take the chance of a boater going up in the middle of our exclusionary zone because there's no signage out in the ocean that says you must go left or right.

2:07:19Speaker 22

right. Right. Thank you.

2:07:20Speaker 1

All right. Let's go ahead and take over.

2:07:22Speaker 13

a question from the mayor.

2:07:23Speaker 1

Do you guys want to take a vote on the amendment? Or do you guys want to keep I'm just trying to move it along.

2:07:28Speaker 8

Well, there's questions still.

2:07:29Speaker 1

Okay. All right. I'm fine with that. So I'll go with the queue. I've got Commissioner Schuha and then Calari.

2:07:33Speaker 2

Well, just as a procedural thing, when we vote, mayor, can we vote on the distance and then come back to some of the small things?

2:07:40Speaker 1

I'm fine with that. Mean, I

2:07:42Speaker 11

don't know what the

2:07:42Speaker 1

small things are. Chief, why don't you go ahead and tell us that.

2:07:45 – 2:07:58Speaker 26

So the small things that the commissioner's referring to is the high watermark versus the low watermark. It's just something that it was just an oversight when we gave examples to legal to change. It's just we should probably keep it. We should, not should. We should keep it at

2:07:58Speaker 1

the low watermark. I'm fine with that. Yeah, I'm fine with that.

2:08:00Speaker 2

And then I think there was another I don't know what I did with my draft where it was set 150

2:08:08 – 2:08:27Speaker 26

JOSEPH Yeah, that's referring to yeah, that's just a clerical error. So it's going to match whatever chapter 99 says. So Commissioner Shuhan's referring to chapter 99 says 150 feet or 50 yards for a diver flag with swimmers off 50 yards offshore. There's just a clerical error within this ordinance that refers back to Chapter 99.

2:08:27Speaker 1

So we'd be matching the state statute?

2:08:29Speaker 26

Well, we'd be matching our own current city ordinance of Chapter 99.

2:08:32Speaker 1

Which is what you want to keep? Yes, yes. The yards for swimming?

2:08:36 – 2:09:07Speaker 2

And then the only other thing is, in the original ordinance, it said well, first, I'll just point out that there's a numbering error in 98.011. It goes A12 and then it goes to three. And that second number two is not a real it's not a sentence. And I think all of this can be fixed before a second reading.

2:09:07Speaker 26

We'll have to make sure it's

2:09:09 – 2:09:32Speaker 2

But I just point out on that one, it used to say that you couldn't operate in a reckless way. And again, it's unclear from this red line or within 100 yards of any bather in the Atlantic Ocean. And that phrase was deleted. So I think it's important to keep that in because it also ties to the statute about Diflex. So that would be my other request.

2:09:32Speaker 26

JULIE Understood.

2:09:33 – 2:10:02Speaker 2

JULIE And I don't want to beat a dead horse. But I just want to say that with respect to other cities, other cities are looking at where their reefs are. And they're making decisions based on the natural resources that they have available. Hollywood is blessed that we have these natural reefs. And we have people that are coming here to swim to those natural reefs out to way past 02:18.

2:10:03 – 2:10:53Speaker 2

So while I think it's important to compare to your neighboring cities I get that because, like you've said, mayor, boats are people are trying to go in a straight line I'm not really swayed by what's happening in Miami, per se. The other important thing that I think we have so that's number one, is to make sure that we're looking at our reef and our neighbors. The other thing that I want to point out, when we installed the artificial reefs, the first artificial reef we installed was a mile out. And our website, our Hollywood City website, says, the current artificial reef is located about a mile offshore in 35 to 40 feet of water and is accessible to certified skilled divers via vessel. Then

2:10:53Speaker 1

Actually, 55 to 60 feet of water.

2:10:55 – 2:11:27Speaker 2

I'm just reading from the website. Accessible via vessel. When you go to the offshore reef guide, the same city of Hollywood website, guardians of the reef have been deployed off the coast of Hollywood Beach in a depth of about 10 feet, accessible to divers and those snorkeling from shore. So the artificial reef project as a whole was done in two parts. The four sections that we've just installed were to swim.

2:11:28 – 2:11:50Speaker 2

I've tried it. You've tried it. It's for people to swim out, basically, or paddle out. We have an artificial reef a mile out for divers on boats. And so I just think that it's important that we remember how we got here, and why the 300 has been there because of our natural resource and the natural reef that we have.

2:11:51 – 2:12:26Speaker 2

And the people that we should be protecting are the people we are encouraging, by our own words, to come to our shore and swim out to the artificial reef and to the natural reef. And so I cannot wrap my head around the idea that pulling it in from our current ordinance at 300 to two eighteen is helping anyone. I think, to your point, Commissioner Gruber, people are on board. They're not going to want a million buoys up and down, but they've bought into this concept. That's not really what we're talking about today.

2:12:26 – 2:12:42Speaker 2

We're talking about where that line should be. Based on our natural resources, the people swimming to see what's here, the city encouraging people to come offshore and swim out, to me the 300 is the only safe way to go. Thank you.

2:12:42Speaker 1

Thank you. Commissioner Cleary.

2:12:44 – 2:13:02Speaker 8

So I guess, chief, I have to ask you another question. So first, does this change our paddle boarding expectation now? Because if we're moving it in for vessel, considered we had this discussion many, many times

2:13:02Speaker 26

I'll defer it to my ocean rescue chief.

2:13:04 – 2:13:15Speaker 8

Yes. I believe it will lessen that. So that will make a lot of people happy, right? So we've got to find a common ground. But I think it will bring it in to two eighteen yards instead of 300, if I'm not mistaken.

2:13:16Speaker 2

The paddle boards have to stay 100 yards out.

2:13:19Speaker 8

100 yards out. Okay. So it doesn't have any effect? Correct. Period. And in any location?

2:13:25 – 2:13:58Speaker 8

Okay. So that's one. I just want to make sure on that. And second, I mean, I'd like to make an amendment because if all of our neighboring cities, and not that we're comparative, but we've put this reef, and I know the website says for offshore, like to go offshore. But I thought we put the reefs in for everybody to enjoy. Boaters, that's how it was sold by Shelby. You can be a boat, and you can drive up and snorkel them. You could be on the shore and circle them. It's for everyone. It's not just the entitlement of people who are onshore, if I'm not mistaken.

2:13:59 – 2:14:16Speaker 8

So I'd like to make an amendment to the amendment and make it 150 yards. Because that way, we're still greater than majority of the cities. And this way it's easier for our lifeguards to be able to get to those if they're in distress.

2:14:16Speaker 26

Vice Mayor, with all due respect, our furthest out artificial reef is at 185 yards.

2:14:21Speaker 26

Our goal is to have this past the artificial reefs. So if we bring it into 150 yards, most of our artificial reefs will be out of the exclusionary zone.

2:14:30Speaker 8

Okay. Then we'll ignore that then.

2:14:32Speaker 1

All right. So our final speaker on this amendment is going to be Commissioner Hernandez. Then we're going to take a vote on the amendment. And then we'll take a vote on the main motion. Go ahead, Commissioner Hernandez.

2:14:41Speaker 5

JULIET The only reason I buzzed in was so that I could call the question so that we could actually JULIET Thank you.

2:14:47 – 2:15:20Speaker 1

All right. So all those in favor of the amendment to amend the ordinance to read 300 yards, say aye. Aye. All those against? Against. Alright, motion fails, I think, six to one. All right. So now our main motion is back on the floor, which is for the ordinance as presented by the fire chief chief and beach safety. And at second readings, we'll have the correction of those errors and the formatting issues that were pointed out and the clarification of

2:15:20 – 2:15:31Speaker 5

I think that the questions were whether we want it to be at the high watermark or the low watermark. And that could be the difference of about maybe 10 yards or so.

2:15:31Speaker 26

Yeah. So my recommendation would be to bring it back to the low watermark. That was an oversight when we were doing the ordinance.

2:15:36Speaker 5

Okay. Because that pushed it a little farther out. That gives a happy medium in between. I

2:15:41 – 2:16:04Speaker 26

do want to ask Commissioner Suhyam on clarification. You mentioned that you didn't like the strike through for 100 yards for reckless boaters. We struck that through because nobody should be operating a boat recklessly. So we figured whether it was 100 yards or not, we just don't want to have it there that someone should be operating a boat reckless at 88 yards versus 100. So that was why we struck it through.

2:16:04Speaker 5

And what is the difference between the high watermark and the low watermark?

2:16:09Speaker 26

Large distance? It's high tide and low tide. I don't have that measurement, sir.

2:16:14Speaker 5

Okay. So About 20 feet And the reason that I asked that question is, when how do you know where to put the buoys?

2:16:21Speaker 26

So it's based on our mean the mean low water mark. So wherever the average has been for the low water mark for low tide is what they go based on.

2:16:29Speaker 5

Okay. So we don't know what that

2:16:30Speaker 26

And that would be up to when the city hires a contractor to make that identification of the distance. They'll be the ones that will make the determination as to where the mean low water mark is or high water mark.

2:16:40Speaker 5

And you're comfortable with that?

2:16:41Speaker 26

I'm comfortable with that. Okay.

2:16:43Speaker 8

And the flag will still stay in existence if there is a dive flag. It's 100 yard boaters have to stay 100 feet from

2:16:48Speaker 26

No, that's state statute.

2:16:50Speaker 8

And who's going to implement that?

2:16:52Speaker 26

Implement which? I'm sorry.

2:16:53Speaker 5

That Roseguard.

2:16:54Speaker 26

The lifeguards make sure that there's boaters out there or if there's our law enforcement marine patrols out there, any law enforcement that's out there.

2:17:03Speaker 1

All right. We've got two that want to give their last word. Was asked to call the question, but go ahead.

2:17:07 – 2:17:21Speaker 2

Just on that question from the chief mayor. My only point and I certainly understand we don't want reckless anywhere. It's just taking it out seemed unnecessary. So we could have an A and a B so that that ties to the state statute. That's all.

2:17:21Speaker 5

I'm the second of the motion. I don't support that. I like what you're talking about because otherwise it encourages stuff like that. And

2:17:28 – 2:17:44Speaker 1

We can leave it as is, but for the obvious clerical errors and formatting errors. And then we can settle that at second reading if need be, and maybe you'll have more feedback for us one way or another. Either way, it seems to be a minor enough issue, a city attorney, to where we can make that tweak at the second reading. Is that correct?

2:17:44 – 2:17:56Speaker 1

So we don't have to really do too much about that now. But low watermark, I think, is well taken, and I think the board supports here today. All right. Commissioner Gruber, last word, and then we're really taking the vote.

2:17:56 – 2:18:10Speaker 3

Yeah. So just lastly, to point out what as far as enforcement, and in speaking to Chris O'Brien, without the buoys, our marine units, MARTINEZ: enforcement. So they

2:18:10Speaker 1

Be challengeable.

2:18:11Speaker 3

Well, they JAMES There's no market. JAMES couldn't even do it because there's no market.

2:18:14Speaker 3

proof of it. So now, by putting these wherever we are putting them, now there can be enforcement. So those boaters that are coming close in the boating world will get the word out. No, don't mess around over there. Know, have some enforcement.

2:18:25Speaker 1

Good. We can revive the Hollywood police jet ski patrol to man the line. All those in favor of the

2:18:34 – 2:18:48Speaker 1

I'm sorry. Need to read the roll call vote. I'm sorry. You're right. I caught myself halfway. All right. Clerk, city attorney, let's read the ordinance. And we'll call the roll call vote at the recommended two eighteen yard line.

2:18:49 – 2:19:06Speaker 19

An ordinance of the City Commission of the City Of Hollywood, Florida, amending chapter 98 of the Code of Ordinances entitled Marine and Waterway Regulations Boats and Other Vessels to Create a Vessel Exclusionary Zone, Providing for a Severability Clause and a Repealer Provision.

2:19:07Speaker 4

JULIE: Commissioner Schuham? I'm sorry? No. Commissioner Hernandez?

2:19:14Speaker 4

Vice Mayor Caleri?

2:19:16Speaker 4

JULIE: Commissioner Gruber?

2:19:18Speaker 4

JULIE: Commissioner Biederman? Yes. Commissioner Cantana?

2:19:21Speaker 22

Yes. Mayor Levy?

2:19:23 – 2:20:01Speaker 1

Yes. All right. Let's show the ordinance passing six to one on first reading. I just do want to mention for everyone who cared enough to come out today. I know you're passionate about the issue of where the line was, but the one indisputable thing based on whatever everyone's opinion is was the map that the chief showed that showed that the 300 yard line was more on top of the reef than the two eighteen at the North Beach section. So that went into my thinking and to Oliver's thinking. And I think it'll be safe. It'll and everyone needs to comply with the law of boaters and snorkelers and scuba divers alike. Thank you all so much. Alright, ladies and gentlemen. Let's let's go on.

2:20:02Speaker 5

Alright. You wanna take a break?

2:20:07 – 2:20:42Speaker 1

Yeah. Why don't we do one more? Let's do one more and then take a break because the one more is just the end of the time certain items. Let's just get through it real quick. An ordinance item 49 an ordinance of the city commission of the city of Hollywood vacating a portion of Platte Alley lying within Block 53 of the Platte Of Hollywood, Platte Book one, page 21, etcetera, etcetera. This is an ordinance on first reading. This is for Alta Hollywood and the vacation of the alley, I believe, something we've been working on for many years. An ordinance on first reading by development services. Andrea?

2:20:42 – 2:21:09Speaker 21

Correct, mayor. Thank you very much. This is vacation of an alley for a project known as Alta, or I might say this wrong, GIA. GAIA. GAIA. Thank you. It's had a few different names. It's a four sixty four unit mixed use development taking place just north of downtown. Their request is to vacate the alley and put in two additional access easements for the two properties, one on the east and west side, to be able to retain access.

2:21:09Speaker 1

I'm going go ahead and open the public hearing. Are there any speaker cards on ordinance item 49?

2:21:14Speaker 1

Public hearing is now closed. I'll accept the motion.

2:21:17Speaker 8

Motion to approve. Motion

2:21:19Speaker 1

from Vice Mayor Colari, second from Commissioner Gruber to approve the ordinance on first reading. Let's go ahead and read the ordinance and call the roll call vote.

2:21:29 – 2:21:52Speaker 19

ANNETTE An ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Hollywood, Florida vacating a portion of the Platte Alley lying within Block 53 of the Platte Of Hollywood, Platte Book one, page 21, and more specifically described in Exhibit A attached hereto and incorporated herein, providing a severability clause, a repeal or provision, and an effective date, all to Hollywood.

2:21:54Speaker 4

JULIE Commissioner Shuham? JULIE Yes. JULIE Commissioner Hernandez?

2:21:59Speaker 4

Commissioner Gruber? JULIE Yes. JULIE Commissioner Quintana?

2:22:06Speaker 4

JULIE Mayor Levy?

2:22:07Speaker 1

JULIE Yes. All right. Let's show the ordinance passing unanimously on

2:22:11Speaker 21

Mayor, I forgot to mention this project is in permitting, and they're very close to getting their permit issued.

2:22:17Speaker 1

All right. We're excited about that. All right. We're going to, at the request of the commission, take a five that usually becomes a ten minute break. So we'll see you when we come back.

2:22:26 – 2:33:00Speaker 1

Recessed. Zooming our meeting, ladies and gentlemen. I was asked during the break if I can give some quick consideration if the commission doesn't object. Apparently, are folks here that have been waiting on items fifty four and fifty five, which are some contracts for asphalt and paving and things. So without objection, fifty four and fifty five.

2:33:02 – 2:33:38Speaker 1

And then 51, we'll do right after that. And then we can continue on. We can get these folks back to work. So item 54 is a resolution of the city commission authorizing the city to execute agreements with and issue blanket purchase agreements with a number of asphalt companies for asphalt pavement resurfacing and general rights of way maintenance work in an annual amount of up to $2,000,000 per vendor per year for a three year term, with up to two additional two year renewal terms. Are there any speaker cards on item 54? I don't imagine there are.

2:33:39Speaker 1

All right. If there's not a request for discussion, I'll entertain a motion.

2:33:44Speaker 8

Motion to approve.

2:33:45 – 2:34:28Speaker 1

Second. We have a motion from Vice Mayor Kalari and a second from Commissioner Biederman to approve item 54. All those in favor, aye. Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none, the item carries unanimously. Item 55 is a resolution of the city commission approving and authorizing the city to execute agreements and issue blanket purchase agreements with a number of companies for concrete construction and general rights of way maintenance work in an amount up to $2,000,000 per vendor per year for a three year term, with up to two additional two year renewal terms. Are there any speaker cards on item 55? Pat, any speaker cards on item 55? No? I'll entertain a motion.

2:34:28Speaker 8

Motion to approve. Second.

2:34:29 – 2:34:59Speaker 1

We have a motion from vice mayor Coleri and a second from commissioner Quintana to approve item 55. All those in favor, aye. Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none, those items carry unanimously. Thank you. Sorry to keep you waiting, but hopefully you found this lesson in civics and how we make a great meal out of spaghetti. You can be proud. But thank you. And let me just say, for those who are here on the asphalt work especially, please, when you resurface our roads, let's have the crews pay extra attention to keep it as smooth as possible.

2:34:59 – 2:35:42Speaker 1

I hate seeing when we resurface a road and new road is as bumpy as the old one was. So please, I know our staff will talk to you guys about that, about the specs. But if I could just instill upon you that, you know, spirit of pride in the finished product, I'd appreciate that. Thank you. Take care, everybody. Alright. Mayor Bober, welcome. Good to see you. I think you are here on item 51, resolution of the city commission approving and authorizing the appropriate city officials to negotiate and execute an agreement with Boucher Brothers, Hollywood Beach LLC, for beach concessionaire services. This is under the guise of public utilities here.

2:35:42 – 2:35:57Speaker 1

I see that. Although, I would have thought it would have been Parks. Is that a Scrivener's error? Yeah, seems so. All right. Let's not make that a habit. We don't like Scrivener's errors, or the suggestion thereof. Ricky, welcome.

2:35:59 – 2:36:12Speaker 37

Okay. Mayor, vice mayor, commissioner, city manager, city attorney, assistant city manager, Rick Engel, director of Parks, Recreation, and Cultural Arts. I have a short presentation to

2:36:15 – 2:36:44Speaker 37

Currently, have a contract with Boucher Brothers for the beach concessions. That contract expires on March 30. We went out to bid in the October. And then first time out, we didn't get any proposals back. So we extended the contract three different times.

2:36:44 – 2:37:05Speaker 37

We made some minor adjustments. And then we received a proposal from Boucher Brothers that we'll talk about today. So Boucher Brothers has been with us. Current contracts are in for eight years. But Boucher Brothers have been around quite a long time, since 1987.

2:37:06 – 2:37:46Speaker 37

They're very familiar in the business. They have a large company. And so we know that we have a good candidate in their proposal. The proposal that they gave us is for a five year contract. The initial terms for the first year would be $410,000 per year. And that amount goes up each year. Second year will go up by 2%, then 3%, four percent. Fifth year would be up 5%. And then there's also an option for a three year extension. And each year of that extension would go up 5%.

2:37:46 – 2:38:17Speaker 37

So over the first five year period, we'd make over $2,100,000 over that five year period. And if we decided to take the renewal option, we'd make an additional 1.5 and onetwo million dollars over that next three years. So the total for eight years would be almost $3,800,000 over eight years. And just as a comparison, our current contract, we've been receiving $200,000 a year. So this contract more than doubles what we're getting currently.

2:38:25 – 2:39:08Speaker 37

Nope, it died on me. I'm sorry. Eileen, can you move it? Thank you. Yeah. So the new agreement, in addition to the funds, they have also agreed to provide a resident discount. So residents would receive a 25% discount over their normal rental rates. They also are proposing a senior day, so once a week. We haven't determined what day that would be. But seniors would receive a 35% discount one day out of the week. You can't get both, though. You can't get a resident discount and a senior discount. You can only take one.

2:39:08Speaker 1

We're going to have to speak with them in about one minute. Okay.

2:39:14 – 2:39:39Speaker 37

Again, I Okay, in addition to that, they did put a couple other incentives in their contract. They would provide kids zones. That could be depending on the day and the crowds on the beach. It could be one zone. It could be multiple zones where they'll put out some games just to attract the children and have something for the children to play.

2:39:40 – 2:40:40Speaker 37

They also will have their staff, as part of their normal service, they'll pick up at least three pieces of trash each day. And they're going to encourage any participant, anyone that rents from them, to participate in that program. It would be a volunteer on a voluntary basis, but there are no incentives to the people to do it. But it's to help the city have that environmental aspect and take pride in the way the beach looks. And lastly, they also will provide the city with a, over the five year period, dollars 12,500, basically as a sponsorship funding where each year they'll give us $2,500 that the city can determine how best to use that, whether it's for a dune restoration project or some other area along the beach or wherever we want to do it that we had that choice to use that $2,500 a year.

2:40:40Speaker 37

And at this point, open to any questions. And Boucher Brothers is here if they have any questions of them.

2:40:49Speaker 1

Thanks, Rick. Thank you. Commissioner Gruber?

2:40:53 – 2:41:16Speaker 3

Yes. Thanks, Rick. I have a couple of questions. With regards to there's some other vendors more towards the south end of the beach, like I know in front of Sierra Towers, in front of Summit. Are they staying there? There's like a handful of small businesses. Or is this taking over everything?

2:41:16 – 2:41:49Speaker 37

JAMES This contract goes from Sherman Street South to Bougainvillea, with the exception of Margaritaville. Our plan is to go back out with the south end of the beach and create a wheel and work with the hotels and the condos on the south end of the beach, where they will have the opportunity to pick who they'd like off of the wheel. So we'll have some of the smaller vendors that might be out there would have the option to become part of that wheel. So we'll be going out separately with that. We SPEAKER

2:41:49Speaker 1

It's still publicly accessible, but nonetheless registered with the city.

2:41:52Speaker 3

Right. Okay. So Okay. The senior discount, what did you say that was gonna be? If I can ask from the Shea Brothers.

2:42:02Speaker 37

It's 35%, but they can go into more detail. Gotcha.

2:42:09Speaker 3

I think when I when I met with you guys, I think I remember it being a bigger discount, no? That in that you do in other cities?

2:42:17Speaker 10

Yes. We do have a senior discount in other cities that's a little more favorable. We also do not have a resident discount in that same city.

2:42:26Speaker 10

So they're to balance the both of

2:42:28Speaker 3

Got it. What raising

2:42:29Speaker 3

Was it free that I remembered correctly We in other have

2:42:32Speaker 10

a free senior beach in one Well, of our

2:42:36Speaker 3

just for some discussion, would we rather have a free STEINER:

2:42:40 – 2:42:53Speaker 1

senior day? And no discount for Hollywood residents. A lot of Hollywood residents have their own beach gear because a free senior beach day sounds really nice to Was it one day a week? Or is it all the time in those cities?

2:42:53 – 2:43:09Speaker 10

Well, in the city, it is consistent. So I the seniors at one specific street can have One free section, right? One section in Miami Beach that they can go to to get free equipment.

2:43:09Speaker 3

One day a week?

2:43:10Speaker 10

I believe it is year round.

2:43:13Speaker 3

Okay. I was very excited when we met and talked about that. But I understand the balance, but mean, would it be possible if the

2:43:21Speaker 1

What is the age group there?

2:43:24Speaker 3

18 and older.

2:43:26Speaker 10

I think it's 65 and older.

2:43:28Speaker 3

65 and older? Yeah, I don't know what my colleagues feel. Would that be possible to go back to the one day a week free for seniors and abandon the other one? Just We we can talk let's

2:43:38Speaker 1

talk let's talk about it and see if any commissioners wanna wanna kinda, like, explore that idea.

2:43:43Speaker 3

Like, do those numbers work out that you'd be able to do something like that for us?

2:43:46Speaker 10

Or I think we could do something like that for the if we were gonna do a trade off for one for the other Right. Believe that can

2:43:52 – 2:44:13Speaker 1

So to have a senior no cost to seniors at a particular location versus having a discounted rate applicable for seniors or residents everywhere. So either a discount to everyone everywhere, if they're a resident or senior, or no cost to seniors at a particular location.

2:44:13Speaker 3

day a week, yeah.

2:44:14 – 2:44:46Speaker 1

I mean, one day a week. Don't know if that does anything. But while we're offering ideas, I wonder if anywhere in the beaches that you service, you've explored the idea of having an annual or a monthly resident membership, let's call it. Because, for example, the skipper fellow who operates the beach right now in front of the summit, which your zone would include now, I think you're a member there, right? It's an annual membership?

2:44:46Speaker 3

It's a membership. And most of

2:44:47Speaker 1

the people there are annual members, you would say? Do you know?

2:44:49Speaker 37

I mean, I haven't gotten

2:44:50Speaker 3

to know that many of them, but it seems like a mix.

2:44:53 – 2:45:13Speaker 1

And without gumming it up for the agreement, I'm just saying separately, have you guys explored the idea of the annual membership? Is that convenient if someone just shows their Boucher card and then they get to go without having to pay every time? It's easier for the administrators and easier for the resident. And it also encourages the membership and the loyalty. Think I it's good for business, too.

2:45:13 – 2:45:52Speaker 10

Yes, Mayor. We have explored membership programs in other cities. To be candid, they've not had high utilization. I'm happy to explore a membership program for the city of Hollywood. I could work with staff. If you give me a couple days, I could propose and I would propose different memberships, an annual membership. I'll call it just for shade. You want to bring your own backpack chair, you don't want lug an umbrella, I'll have a membership just for shade. I will have a membership for two chairs and an umbrella. We do have beach beds out, so I would also have a high end package if someone wanted an annual membership for a beach bed with shade. I would come That's up

2:45:52Speaker 1

something you'd like to do?

2:45:52 – 2:46:03Speaker 10

I would happily come up with four to five membership offerings that would be open for anybody, not just a resident. But yes, I'd put those forward and work with staff. Give me a couple of days, and I would

2:46:03 – 2:46:31Speaker 1

GREGORY Well, maybe if we make a motion on this item, the maker of the motion could include the opportunity to work with staff and include any required language in the agreement to further optional membership opportunities. So we can leave it open ended, but otherwise not have to have the contract come back to us. All right. So we just threw some things on the table the senior access versus resident discounts, memberships. Let's keep going. Commissioner Kuleri?

2:46:31Speaker 8

No. I am passing.

2:46:34 – 2:47:04Speaker 16

Commissioner Biederman? KELLY: So I love the membership idea. We had this discussion about it's not just a matter of a resident discount so that because this is the resident's beach, but to encourage residents to use Circuit or Uber to get to the beach, keep the cars off the beach without having to lug chairs with them. My question is, what's this sand chair? Because I was talking about a more economical chair as opposed to the very expensive

2:47:05 – 2:47:20Speaker 10

So we a queen-size bed. That's our highest offering. Then we have a lounge chair you could lay down in. And then I call it a steamer chair, a sand chair. If you're on a cruise ship, the sitting chairs that have that little recliner to them so you're

2:47:21Speaker 16

SPEAKER Adirondack chair.

2:47:22Speaker 10

An Adirondack chair.

2:47:23 – 2:47:50Speaker 16

SPEAKER Okay. So I mean, I think that's economical to not unless you're going with your whole family, I think that it's economical for somebody to take circuit or an Uber without having to lug their stuff with them. So I'm Okay with this. I would hate to eliminate the resident rate in order to give one free day a week for seniors. I just don't think it would be utilized.

2:47:50 – 2:48:30Speaker 16

In addition to a membership, maybe a multi day package or something like that. Like five days of a lounge chair or whatever it is at a little bit of a discounted rate might be sufficient also. But I'm open to whatever you guys come up with. But I think that these days, people want that multi like, you go to a tanning salon, you get a five day package, or you go to wherever else it is.

2:48:30 – 2:48:50Speaker 16

The first thing that keeps coming from behind. And I haven't been to a tanning salon, so I don't know, but it was the first thing that came to mind. But something like that, a multi like a bulk package. Know, everybody wants to go to Costco because you get stuff in bulk. You know, maybe there's a bulk package as opposed to just unlimited use of a chair for a year, you know.

2:48:50 – 2:49:09Speaker 10

Understood. And I know we have people that have second residences here. So when I look at that, I was thinking of an annual membership program. I could look at a three month, a six month, and an annual offering within those spaces. I don't know about a five day package, but I'm willing to look at that as well.

2:49:09Speaker 16

Listen, we all got to make money, including the city.

2:49:14 – 2:49:39Speaker 16

And I love the fact that we're getting more money to I love the fact that we're getting more money to supplement the increased services that we're providing on the beach, whether it's the bathrooms or beach cleaning and all the other things that we're enhancing our services. Especially now that the CRA is going away, we need other revenue opportunities to pay for some of those enhanced services.

2:49:40Speaker 10

I just got clarification. With the senior day at Miami Beach, we offer it Monday through Thursday. So it is a Monday through Thursday offering to the seniors. Just wanted to clarify.

2:49:50Speaker 1

When things are quiet, yeah.

2:49:52Speaker 10

So right, Monday through Thursday.

2:49:53Speaker 1

Everybody wins.

2:49:54Speaker 10

CHRISTOPHER Friday, Saturday, and Sunday is for us to maximize the business. Monday through Thursday, free equipment for the seniors.

2:50:01Speaker 1

CHRISTOPHER Thank you. Commissioner Schuham.

2:50:03 – 2:50:42Speaker 2

CHRISTOPHER Thank you. I agree with Commissioner Beeterman. I would hate to see us lose a discount for all residents. Everybody is hurting a little bit, so to spread that. I also just wanted to comment. We have those I'm sure you've seen them. We have the buckets that our Public Works Department has out there. And I'm sure they would be happy to put some by your major station so that when people are coming to pick up their three with you guys, that you have the Hollywood buckets there. So that would be a nice partnership. And I really just want to say that generally, it is a pleasure to work with your company.

2:50:43 – 2:51:00Speaker 2

We have a lot of companies that do business with the city of Hollywood. And I will say very, very few, if ever, have any concerns with your staff. They're excellent to work with. And you should be really proud of the team that you have out there. And with that, I'll make a motion to approve.

2:51:01Speaker 1

We have a motion. And is that with the language to explore the memberships?

2:51:06Speaker 2

Absolutely. You can explore away.

2:51:08Speaker 1

Well, I have Commissioner Hernandez next. Thank

2:51:13 – 2:51:39Speaker 5

you. Great thought of everybody that is here with a membership. Too, would not like to see the non seniors lose their discount. If you can provide it as you have it here, have 25% of standard rental rates for resident discount and provide some days, whether it's Monday through Thursday or something like that, for the seniors as well, with a little more of a discount. I'm Okay with that.

2:51:39 – 2:52:21Speaker 5

And that will be beneficial to everybody. And the membership idea is a great idea. What I like the most is about the fact that now you are providing funding for parks and recs that can provide events throughout the whole city. So it's the best way of utilizing and leveraging our beach. And a lot of you clients actually are not residents. We're encouraging the residents to come. But the non residents are the ones that are helping our parks and recs to be able to provide events for the rest of the city. So I like that. Very innovating idea. I like the fact that it's only five years, but then you have another five years ability, three five year terms.

2:52:21Speaker 10

No, five of the three year. Okay. Eight years total.

2:52:25 – 2:52:52Speaker 5

Eight years total. So I like that idea because it gives Parks and Recs the ability to say, this is working, this is not working. We can tweak this. So I'm Okay with as presented, which is 25, which is 35. And then he can come up with membership if that's so desired. But that would be a business decision up to them. I like to be more inclusive when it comes to the non senior versus the senior. They're also getting a heavier discount, rather than to have one or two days, only the seniors.

2:52:52Speaker 1

Yep. All right, let's go to

2:52:54Speaker 3

determined for seniors. Correct. It's not always

2:52:57 – 2:53:36Speaker 5

No, no. And that's my point. So the day to be determined, whether it's one day or days, you could put an S behind that and make it Monday through Thursday if you so desire. So it gives the seniors the ability to do something like that. But I'm comfortable with the motion of having staff work with you. But I do not support eliminating the discount for the rest of the residents over the seniors. I support both. I support giving the seniors a little more. And if you can do more than one day, it'd be greater. And as you said, it's not being abused. It's not being utilized. And the odds are that you will wind up gaining steady customers when it comes to that. So that's my 2¢.

2:53:36 – 2:54:13Speaker 1

Yeah, we do have a special circumstance here with the senior citizens, the snowbirds coming from Canada. And so maybe there's a way that helps enhance their experience and also give business to the concession by creating really a snowbirds, you know, adaptive type opportunity where they where they would decide, hey, you know, let's all be part of this. And then you're busy during the week and it's exciting and you're, you know, you're busy and and they're receiving a great service. So just as you think of membership and things and seniors realize we do have that snowbird opportunity. And right now, you're probably not capturing hardly any of the business because I see them bring their own, and they're probably used to that.

2:54:13 – 2:54:26Speaker 1

But if you created an attractive snowbird type program, maybe in specific parts of the beach, like in front of where they usually go by Charna Park, Garfield Street, maybe there could be good opportunity and a good experience. Commissioner Quintana?

2:54:27Speaker 24

Hi. Hi, how are you?

2:54:28 – 2:55:00Speaker 22

Good. I remember when I first met you that we were talking about how to get more people from the West Sides of the city to come and experience the beach more often. And so I was really glad to see that you incorporated into your plans the discount for residents. I, too, like Commissioner Beeterman and several others, would not want to see the resident discount go away. Many of the residents in my district will talk about how expensive parking is at the beach.

2:55:00 – 2:55:42Speaker 22

And I do try to spread the word as much as off as I can about the Haligou option and the circuit option. And those would certainly be more attractive to people if they don't have to carry all of the equipment. I do think, you know, we talk about all the time how the beach is for everyone in Hollywood. And I think we need to put our money where our mouth is with that. And thank you for bringing that. And I also really caught my eye. The senior program, the was at $12.50 dollars a year that you all there was not this, the discount part. But wasn't there some kind of an incentive money available for programs for seniors?

2:55:42 – 2:56:07Speaker 10

Well, yes, we will contribute $2,500 a year on the first day of the contract that the city commission can deploy to these various areas that we listed. We wanted it to have a beach support, so if you wanted to support the lifeguards, a senior focused community activity, a dune restoration we gave some examples of where we would like to see the money go. But we you know, that's at your discretion how you want to

2:56:07Speaker 22

And the senior focused community initiative could be for seniors anywhere to participate in at something at the beach, correct?

2:56:16Speaker 10

JULIE: Correct. As you see fit.

2:56:18Speaker 22

Yeah. Wonderful. Thank you.

2:56:21Speaker 1

Let's go to Commissioners Grubber and Coleric. Commissioner Grubber?

2:56:25 – 2:57:04Speaker 3

Yep. I didn't want to take away the resident discount. I just remembered when we had our meeting them telling me about this free product for seniors. I was really excited about it. So that's why I brought it up for discussion. I'm good with the resident discount and a senior discount. If we can do that senior discount Monday to Thursday, like the seniors get the free in Miami, I think that could work, if we can throw that in there. Yep. To keep that. And then also when we met, one of the things I always noticed and it kind of bothers me is that Margaritaville, that's the only beach that gets F and B service, right?

2:57:04 – 2:57:16Speaker 3

So if you're staying in Margaritaville, if you're in the umbrellas, you get servers that serve you, food, cocktails, whatever. I think when we discussed that you're in front of the Marriott and it's not allowed there, correct?

2:57:16 – 2:57:38Speaker 3

I think I brought it up in one of my commission comments once for staff to look into and to use that as a pilot to start this service. I think it was a while right? I did, right? So what are your thoughts on that? Do you think if you were able to, just for example, in front of the Marriott and then that as a pilot in other places, would that be a benefit to the people sitting there? I would think so, if they could have that space.

2:57:38Speaker 10

Yeah, would think so.

2:57:39Speaker 3

Would you be the ones to man that and run it or?

2:57:44Speaker 1

How do you do the Miami Beach?

2:57:45 – 2:58:00Speaker 10

Sure. So it's different in Miami Beach. This contract specifically excludes us selling food and beverage in Miami Beach. We are allowed to sell food and beverage in the public beach. And I know we were talking about 300 yards with the buoys.

2:58:02 – 2:58:45Speaker 10

The beach is very wide in South Beach, so the distance from the Ocean Drive restaurants to our concession is pretty far. Where on Hollywood Beach, it's literally a stone's throw from the restaurants to the beach. So, while I'm still a competitor with the Ocean Drive restaurants, they don't think of it as much. I think the City of Hollywood restaurants would not like me to serve food and beverage directly. But if they had the ability to do it, I'm sure they would love it. It will create a trash issue of whose trash is it. So if you were to pilot a program like that, I think the cleanliness of the beach will be paramount of who's going to be responsible, you know, for that extra trash.

2:58:45Speaker 3

Okay, thank you. If I can get an update at some point where staff is at with looking into that and those recommendations. Yeah, thank you.

2:58:54Speaker 1

All right, Commissioner Cleary.

2:58:57 – 2:59:30Speaker 8

So just how you have the initiative to clean up the beach. When you had mentioned, I thought it was super great. Because we all have to put in our part. But you could come up with turtle tokens. And then after so many tokens, they get something, like a discount. Or there's something that could go in. And that way, it just really incentivizes people after they turn in so many pieces of trash to get a turtle token. And then after so many turtle tokens and it could be for kids and adults and seniors. That way everybody's doing their part, and it really incentivizes them. So just food for that.

2:59:30 – 3:00:15Speaker 1

So just a comment on the operations. I agree. Always very clean. Your personnel are always very courteous. They're well dressed. They're respectful. And so I think they represent the city and your company well. So I agree you should be proud of the work ethic that you've instilled in the quality, which is why I think we're so very happy to extend the relationship with Boucher Brothers. The one operational issue that I think frustrates me once in a while when I rent a beach umbrella or chairs is that even though we have sunlight until, say, 8PM in the summer, come 05:00 or whatever, the team starts picking up all the chairs and kind of forces you away. I understand you might not get a lot of new customers come sunset time.

3:00:15Speaker 1

But for people that have or want to enjoy the time, I think and I don't know if there's a limitation of your operational hours in the contract. Is there?

3:00:24Speaker 10

I believe there is operational hours. And I think it's one hour before sunset. We have to be off the beach, if I'm not mistaken.

3:00:31Speaker 1

Ricky, could you clarify?

3:00:32Speaker 10

I will check that.

3:00:34 – 3:00:48Speaker 37

RICHARD I'm sorry. RICHARD Yes. September through March, the hours are 9AM to 5PM. And then April through August, it's 9AM to 7PM are the hours within the contract.

3:00:48Speaker 1

I gotcha. That sounds, you know, kind of close enough to sunset. How do you feel about it, those limitations?

3:00:55 – 3:01:14Speaker 10

I'm okay with how it currently is, but I do understand the issue that you raise with somebody coming out late in the day, feeling like they can enjoy a little more time on the beach, yet my team is starting to close the beach and then taking back their equipment. You know, so I defer to the commission if that's something that could be adjusted.

3:01:14Speaker 1

Yeah. Let's go to commissioner Gruber on that.

3:01:17 – 3:01:28Speaker 3

a quick question on that. So when it's nine to seven, that doesn't mean you're telling the person who rented an umbrella at 7PM you have to leave. You're telling them like at five, 05:30, you have to leave, right?

3:01:28 – 3:01:45Speaker 10

Well, my team would start to close the beach and of course, the first thing, the easiest thing is to pick up all of the equipment that's not in use. Right. So we would try to let you enjoy the equipment for as long as possible. But then, you know, at some point, yes, we are collecting your equipment even though you may want to enjoy the beach and stay longer.

3:01:45Speaker 3

So, the longest time in that time of year that someone would be able to stay under their umbrella is typically like 05:30, right? That's what I've been hearing from you.

3:01:52Speaker 10

Yeah, that's power.

3:01:53Speaker 3

Right. So, you get there at four 04:30 and the sun, you know, in the summer is way up there. It's a tough, you know, you don't really don't wanna

3:02:03Speaker 10

spend The summer is 7PM, right? The summer is 7PM.

3:02:06Speaker 3

Right. No, but it's 7PM in the contract, Right. So but that's not

3:02:10Speaker 1

You're out of the contract. If

3:02:11Speaker 3

I rent an umbrella at 04:00 where it's still sunny in the summer, I don't get to stay till seven. By 05:30, your staff is saying, I have to go. No?

3:02:21Speaker 3

to stay till seven?

3:02:22Speaker 10

You get to stay till seven.

3:02:23Speaker 3

7PM? Okay. I'm good with that.

3:02:24 – 3:02:42Speaker 1

Yeah. Yeah. We could modify the agreement and it will give you guys really more operational time to say thirty until thirty minutes before sunset. And sunset is a, you know, a specific, you know, hour that's, you know, you can verify what it is and it will give your team flexibility. More operational time means more dollars for you guys potentially.

3:02:42 – 3:03:01Speaker 10

Could could be. I just thought, you know, some of the locations that are very busy, they do take a while to close the beach to secure the equipment. And I do not want the team members working in the dark to try to accomplish that. So that's part of the challenge. It's not only cleaning up the beach and putting the equipment away, they still need daylight to operate safely.

3:03:01Speaker 1

So one hour before sunset would

3:03:03Speaker 10

be That's usually like the way we like to operate, yes.

3:03:06Speaker 1

Yeah. Alright. And so maybe would revise the hard and fast five p. M. And seven p. M. To one hour before sunset.

3:03:15Speaker 1

If the board is Okay with that, who made the motion here?

3:03:18Speaker 8

I'd make the motion if you want.

3:03:20Speaker 1

Now who made the main motion?

3:03:21Speaker 4

Commissioner Schuham.

3:03:24Speaker 1

Commissioner Schuham, you're good with the one hour before sunset. And the seconder is Okay with the two

3:03:30Speaker 8

Yes, as long as it doesn't inhibit or create a safety issue for your employees.

3:03:34Speaker 12

PRESENTER Yeah. You.

3:03:35 – 3:04:17Speaker 1

PRESENTER All right. So that's the motion, is to approve the contract. You'll work with staff regarding memberships and the operational hours will extend to the latter of 5PM and 7PM as in the contract or one hour before sunset, whichever is later. Thank you. All right. All those in favor, aye. Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none, the item carries unanimously. Thank you. Thank you. Looking forward. And I know you guys are working on some innovations in the months and years ahead. I always hear of things like you're doing in other cities. Please don't be bashful through Peter or anyone to tell us what you're doing elsewhere. We kind of want to stay current. We want to stay innovative and have the best recreational beaches we can.

3:04:17 – 3:04:34Speaker 10

Absolutely. And we will bring we have a website dedicated, bouchermembership.com. So that is being built out for Hollywood residents. That'll be well in advance of the new contract next month. And residents can engage the link. They'll get a QR code, present that code on the beach, and they will get their

3:04:35Speaker 1

Awesome. Okay. All right. Thank you. Let's say a round of applause. Thank you. All right.

3:04:44 – 3:05:16Speaker 1

good to imagine ourselves sitting on the beach with an umbrella above us. So that's why we clap and we're, it's all good karma here. Alright. Yeah. We definitely don't clap for too many vendors. Alright. Let's see where we are, ladies and gentlemen. We bounced around a little bit. We've done 51, 54, 55. Is there anyone here from the public who's here on any other contract that's easy to do? No? Alright. So We have one person

3:05:16Speaker 8

raise their hand.

3:05:16 – 3:05:30Speaker 1

He's here for the GM Selby item. Alright, so it is about 04:12. Let's go ahead with item 50 then. It's the first item on our regular agenda. It's the resolution approving the employment agreement with our new incoming city manager, Ms.

3:05:30 – 3:06:07Speaker 1

Raelyn Story Losey. And I just do wanna mention that I know that when we had negotiated and and voted on the employment agreement for the city attorney, I pointed out that there was a second retirement benefit called the four fifty seven plan that was on top of the pension plan. And we all agreed that there shouldn't be two layers of retirement benefit. I do want to mention that I did speak with the city attorney, an incoming city attorney, about that. In the city manager's agreement, there were actually three packages.

3:06:08 – 3:07:12Speaker 1

One was the pension, one was the four fifty seven, and one was the four zero one. Raelynn understood where we're coming from on the multiple retirements, had removed the four zero one even before I had a chance to talk to her about it. On the four fifty seven, I explained to her what I had enunciated when we had done the city attorney's contract about the double retirement and expecting her salary to be at the seventy fifth percentile. And mind you, what we have in front of us that was presented is salary way below the seventy fifth percentile, but keeping the four fifty seven because and she's thorough, everybody. And she did point out to me, mayor, if you take away the $4.57, which is capped by federal law at, like, I think, 32,000 this year, and you bring me up to the seventy fifth percentile, like we do for the other employees, then it'll be more expensive for the city by about $13,000 And by increasing the salary and removing the four fifty seven, the pension benefit would be much higher forever for while she's collecting the pension benefit because the salary is, much higher at the seventy fifth percentile.

3:07:12 – 3:07:48Speaker 1

So we save money on the four fifty seven if we keep it, ladies and gentlemen. If we go to the seventy fifth percentile on salary, then it actually ends up costing us more. So when she mentioned that to me and pointed that out, I said, Okay, I get it. And so she is looking to keep that four fifty seven because it also saves the city money and is willing to forego the seventy fifth percentile as Demaris was because she was a newbie. Raitlin is, you know, twenty something years into this. So I will leave it to the commission to discuss or make a motion.

3:07:51 – 3:08:16Speaker 1

have a motion and a second and a third to approve the contract as presented. Any speaker cards on this item? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none, the item carries unanimously. Congratulations and thank you to Ray Lynn. And George still is with us until the end of the month. So it's we're still we're still working. So we're working.

3:08:16Speaker 14

I don't feel like that

3:08:17 – 3:08:29Speaker 23

that I'm close at my own funeral anymore. But thank thank I know may wanna say something and be modest, but thank you on behalf of city managers. Appreciate how that's that's handled there too. Yeah.

3:08:29 – 3:08:41Speaker 1

You got it. You got it. Alright. Let's go on to item 52, resolution of the city commission considering this continuance and sunsetting of the advisory boards. Are there any speaker cards on 52?

3:08:49Speaker 1

Anne Ralston, come on up.

3:08:54 – 3:09:32Speaker 24

I find it kind of interesting that we are building, building, building for affordable housing, but we want to sunset the Affordable Housing Committee. The general obligation bond oversight committee, I don't think they're all done yet. So I don't know why that's wanting to be sunsetted. What I don't see on here is the historic board to be sunsetted, since we don't follow those rules. Andrea told me that it's set by ordinance that can't be. So let's get rid of the overlay district altogether, and then the board goes away.

3:09:32Speaker 1

Is that a motion, Annie?

3:09:33Speaker 24

Yes, that's a motion.

3:09:34Speaker 38

Could you please?

3:09:35Speaker 1

We'll take it up at end of the meeting.

3:09:36 – 3:10:20Speaker 24

Okay, yeah, right. Also, but anyway, and what's missing on not having a board is the Budget Advisory Committee, which we've had, that I've sat on, and got sunsetted in around 2000. The most important job of all of you is fiduciary. How do you spend our money? And it's our tax dollars along with what fees we pay, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. So I think it very it behooves for trust in the budget to have a budget advisory committee that has citizens on there that can have their say on the budget, not just me, on budget hearing time.

3:10:21 – 3:10:46Speaker 1

Thank you. For the record, could staff please clarify and explain and respond to the comments on the general obligation bond oversight committee, and when their last meeting is, considering the timeline for the project, and address the comment about affordable housing advisory Committee. I know we have a community development committee, or advisory board, so. For the record, please.

3:10:47 – 3:11:32Speaker 39

RADELIN Braylen's story, just to clarify a couple of things. There are certain boards that it is specified within the language of the ordinances that they cannot be considered for sunset. And those are then not brought forward each year. And then the ones that are not specifically stated that they cannot be sunset, those are brought forward each year for your consideration. So that's why the list and the two boards that were mentioned, the Affordable Housing Advisory Board, we are certainly not recommending that you all sunset that board.

3:11:33 – 3:11:56Speaker 39

The General Obligation Bond Oversight Advisory Board, we absolutely recognize that there are a couple of big projects that are getting done. We anticipate the police headquarters, one of the largest bond projects, the largest bond projects, should be getting its CO sometime this spring. And then

3:11:59Speaker 8

to be shorter?

3:12:00Speaker 1

You're the boss. Keep going.

3:12:02Speaker 40

Thanks for ceding your time to me, Anne. And then

3:12:09 – 3:12:30Speaker 39

the Hollywood Beach Golf Course would be the other large project left. All of the funding is really committed at this point. And most of the procurement's done. So the real work of the oversight committee is largely finished. We had this discussion last year.

3:12:30 – 3:13:10Speaker 39

The oversight committee would like to present a final report to the commission. Their terms end in June, at the June. So we believe that they could provide that final report to the commission with recommendations about the things that they would prioritize as expenditures that then can be considered within the budgetary process, the normal budgetary process. So that is at the pleasure of the commission, if you would feel that this would be the appropriate time. We do believe the bulk of their work is completed, with the exception of this final report that is a standard practice.

3:13:10Speaker 39

We did do it in the 2005 general obligation bond as well. There was a final report that the committee did. I think it's a nice way to wrap up.

3:13:19Speaker 1

Okay. Commissioner Bitterman. So

3:13:24 – 3:14:02Speaker 16

I agree with you, Annie. Number one, I would like to make a motion to approve the Resolution. Resolution sunsetting only the general obligation bond committee effective June 30. And then I don't think any other boards we want to eliminate. But with board support, could we get an analysis on what it would take to eliminate the ordinance that created the historical preservation board?

3:14:04Speaker 1

So that's I not understand. That's not on this particular item. Maybe we can bring that up in comments.

3:14:10Speaker 1

Andrea has just some initial feedback, then great. But we know that that would be an undertaking. So we can talk about it Okay.

3:14:18Speaker 16

I have nothing further than

3:14:20 – 3:14:31Speaker 1

All right. Commissioner Schuham on this item. No? Yeah. Pat, can you go over the motion real quick?

3:14:32 – 3:14:45Speaker 4

The motion was Commissioner Biederman made the motion. Commissioner Hernandez second it to continue all the boards except the GOB, which will sunset 06/30/2026.

3:14:46 – 3:15:29Speaker 1

All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none, the item carries unanimously. Thank you. Moving right along, ladies and gentlemen. Item 53 is a resolution of the city authorizing the city to approve and authorize the city to, upon award, accept a Florida DOT Public Transit Service Development Program grant for City Hollywood Tri Rail Corridor Micro Transit Service Pilot Project in an amount not to exceed $1,400,000 committing matching funds of 50% of the project costs. And we'll be working, I believe, with the county and the surtax team in furtherance of this. Are there any speaker cards on item 53?

3:15:32Speaker 1

Commissioner Schuham?

3:15:33Speaker 2

Motion to approve.

3:15:35 – 3:15:49Speaker 1

We have motion for commissioner Schuham, second from commissioner Coleri to approve item 53. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none, the item carries unanimously. Let's go ahead to

3:15:51Speaker 23

Remember we had three consent items. Yep,

3:15:55 – 3:16:21Speaker 1

yep. Getting there right now. Items five, twenty eight, and 35. Item five was a resolution authorizing payment of attorney's fees to Weiss, Sarota, Health and Coal, and Bierman, and an additional amount of up to $100,000 for fiscal year 'twenty six, bringing the total amount for fiscal year 'twenty six to $200,000 Ann Rolston, come on up.

3:16:25 – 3:16:51Speaker 24

I'm just curious why we're upping for outside counsel. Does this include Dennis Mealy for the thirteen oh one project? And what are we exactly paying him? Is it a flat fee, an hourly rate? And is his job done since it went to the county unless there's an appeal? And I'd like to know how much that is. I just don't know why we up it when we have in counsel. That's my comment for that.

3:16:51 – 3:17:05Speaker 1

Thank you. I know this is not the firm of Mr. Mealy. This is Weiss, Serota, Healthman, Cole and Bierman, which advises the city on land use and some other litigation issues that are ongoing. Alright. Is there a motion for item five?

3:17:05Speaker 8

Motion to approve. Second.

3:17:07 – 3:17:43Speaker 1

We have a motion for commissioner Kolaris, second from vice mayor Kolaris, second from commissioner Schuhem to approve item number five. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none, the item carries unanimously. Item 28 is a resolution of the city commission is a resolution of the city commission authorizing the city to execute a three year initial term agreement with the highest ranked firm to assist the city in reviewing, restructuring, rewriting the city's zoning and land development regulations and related sections. Speaker card, Pat?

3:17:43Speaker 4

I'm withdrawing. She's withdrawing.

3:17:46 – 3:18:28Speaker 1

All right. No speaker cards. We have a motion from vice mayor Coleri and a second from commissioner Schuham to approve item 28. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none. That item carries unanimously and is a good step toward modernization. Item 35 is the resolution of the city commission authorizing the city to execute a cost participation agreement with the Diplomat Landings phase one owner LLC and the Diplomat Landings phase two owner LLC in the amount of half $1,000,000 for phase one and an additional half $1,000,000 for phase two relating to needed lift station improvements to serve phases one and two of those projects. Raelyn?

3:18:28 – 3:19:14Speaker 39

So I was just chatting with Anne because she was the one that asked for this to be pulled. And we spoke before the meeting. There was a little confusion over whether we were paying them or they were paying us. And so just to clarify, this is the team that is developing the project at the Diplomat Landings within the Diplomat Activity Center that you all have approved, paying the city, contributing to the cost of upgrading the lift station that would serve this project and many other areas of the southern portion of the beach. This is a $1,000,000 contribution from them to us.

3:19:14Speaker 1

Thank you. Good negotiating. Anne Ralston?

3:19:18 – 3:19:35Speaker 24

Well, that's what I wanted because I kept getting calls. It wasn't an item I was going to speak on, but I kept getting calls because there was confusion. So I wanted Ms. Story to clarify for the public that we're not paying them. They're paying us. It was very confusing the way it was written.

3:19:35 – 3:19:58Speaker 1

Thank you. We have a motion from Commissioner Schuham and a second from who wants a second? Commissioner Gruber for item 35. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none, the item carries unanimously. Clerk, I think that completes our regular agenda and consent. Would you concur?

3:20:01Speaker 4

Yes, except for item That's 40

3:20:06Speaker 1

the item with the cadets. With

3:20:07Speaker 4

the cadets, yes.

3:20:08Speaker 1

And they're not here yet, right chief?

3:20:10 – 3:20:26Speaker 1

right. So I know the Albertallis are here. And why don't we go ahead then with the city manager's comments, at least that portion with regard to GM Selby, city manager, if that's Okay, because everyone's here. I see Mr. Resnick here. I'm sorry?

3:20:26Speaker 24

Are we allowed to speak after he's done? Because this is not a normal agenda item.

3:20:32Speaker 1

Happy for anyone to speak on this. Sure.

3:20:37Speaker 23

We were just checking to see if our representative from you know, from Jim Selby is here.

3:20:43Speaker 1

Oh, Well, let's find out. If he's not here, then we'll

3:20:45Speaker 23

I'm sure for the presentation. Right.

3:20:49Speaker 1

Want to take a recess? Let's take a five minute recess, and we'll find out if we're going to go forward with Selby or not, if they're here. Five minute recess.

3:20:58Speaker 23

He's taking a five minute recess.

3:21:00 – 3:35:44Speaker 1

We're all going to recess. Alright. Thank you all so much. We're resuming our city commission meeting after that short break. It is about 04:42PM, and we do have item 42 with the, fire cadets that'll be here a little later.

3:35:44 – 3:36:05Speaker 1

But before that, we'd like to invite the city manager to to present the GM Selby analysis of the five g poll that the Albertallis have been concerned with for a long time now and tell us where we're at with the findings and the effort to learn what we can do here. George.

3:36:05 – 3:37:04Speaker 23

Thank you, mayor, vice mayor, and commissioners, and to all the members of the public and staff attending. Well, to cut to the chase, that is basically it because this issue has been with us for some time now, we, the staff, and myself I'll take responsibility for it thought it would be a benefit if we had an independent recognized expert in the field of communications technology that would do just that a professional independent analysis of the situation, provide that information and report to us and recommendations or any findings so that we could factor that into our decision making on this subject. So Gerald Zadakoff of GM Cell B has done that, has presented that report to the city, is here to present that to us today to explain it, the information, what it means, and to answer questions and be a resource for us on this matter. So with that, Mr. Zadikoff.

3:37:04 – 3:37:24Speaker 1

And after Mr. Zadikoff speaks, I know that he's here to answer questions. Gary is here as well on any legal issues. And then, of course, happy to give the Albertallis time and any other public comment because we want to be able to answer questions in a public fashion here and be open about everything. Mr. Zadikoff, welcome.

3:37:34 – 3:38:12Speaker 12

Well, I'm here today to present for the city, on behalf of the city, regarding the tower or small tower on Funston Street, as we see in the picture over there. Just a little bit about myself quickly. We've built over a thousand sites, some of them huge, big, tall towers. In fact, we did the city's tower for the police station as well. And also small ones, like flagpoles or church steeples or little rooftop structures.

3:38:12 – 3:38:47Speaker 12

So we've done everything throughout the country and overseas. So we're very familiar with what these towers do, how they behave. I've been in multiple hearings as an expert. I'm a recognized diplomat of forensic engineering as well. Okay. With that said, let's get on. Okay. So just wanted to discuss first a little

3:38:47 – 3:39:19Speaker 12

about codes. So we do follow the FCC, which is the Federal Communications Commission code here in The US. Florida State follows FCC rules. Broward County does, as well as, of course, City Of Hollywood. So then we also have the International Commission for Non Ionosate radiation protection.

3:39:20 – 3:39:38Speaker 12

Now, there's always an argument saying that, well, you U. S. Codes are a little more open, less stringent than European codes. And I've heard this statement many times. Well, the IC and IRP is actually a European Commission.

3:39:39 – 3:40:15Speaker 12

We also know that the World Health Organization is also quite stringent on the rules. And The United States doesn't like to always follow the WHO because sometimes they are a little too open and stringent on rules. And therefore, we don't like to follow them either. But we're looking at both the FCC, the Commission for Non Ionizing Radiation, and also the World Health Organization. We look at their allowable limits.

3:40:16 – 3:40:47Speaker 12

And their limits are well, well within way over the ranges of what we ever measured here. I mean, we're looking at magnitudes of 50 times below these thresholds. Okay? So we've got to focus By the way, the focus of all these measurements is also on average exposure over time. We're not talking an immediate number.

3:40:47 – 3:41:45Speaker 12

So our equipment, yes, it measures an immediate it records something immediately. However, it then translates that to a period over time. And it's very important to understand that we're looking at things that occur on an immediate basis, yes, but then they are averaged for time. Now, this is just a comparison in this particular slide of the FCC limits versus the other organizations from Europe and the differences. As you can see, there is slight differences in the World Health Organization and the other European Indians and they're slightly more conservative, but not much more than the FCC.

3:41:46 – 3:42:23Speaker 12

And when it comes to the microwatts per meter squared, which is the power density, they're not at all. It's the same thing. Our maximum power density measured was only point 012% of the regulatory allowance for all these agencies. The electric field was 1.1% of the allowable amount. Peak values were even well below these limits by a huge amount.

3:42:23 – 3:42:48Speaker 12

When we're looking at peak, peak values are instantaneous high. When you take when you're measuring signals, they fluctuate because as people get on the phone, there's more a load on the tower. As people get off the phone, there's less load. So at real busy times during rush hour and things like that, you tend to have higher numbers. And then in the evening, very low.

3:42:48 – 3:43:19Speaker 12

And then in the middle of the night, virtually zero. These towers, even though they might be on all the time, they go to sleep if nobody is using them. So the amount of power intensity emitted from the tower is virtually zero at night. So what is this antenna? The antennas that we have right at the site.

3:43:19 – 3:43:55Speaker 12

It's a small cell antenna and it's for four and five gs. But in our case, for five gs, it's shaped like a cylinder, like a little barrel. It's only two feet tall and weighs 30 pounds. It's designed specifically for city areas to improve phone signals, to give people the ability to use phones. You've to remember, though, the whole idea, FCC created a rule to allow quick and easy regulation to install five gs.

3:43:55 – 3:44:11Speaker 12

And the reason is that five gs is more for data than for speech. So in other words, there was a thought at one point, we're going to use our cars. Our cars are going to be requiring data. They're going to require five gs. They're going need a lot of data.

3:44:12 – 3:44:45Speaker 12

Your refrigerator will talk to you and tell you, you need to buy milk. It's using this particular data as well. So the idea behind the whole rules of the FCC was to allow quick and regulatory permission to put these small cells in place. And most of everybody has followed these rules. The actual antenna is designed to cover three sixty degrees around.

3:44:46 – 3:45:20Speaker 12

And it also has a slight allows it can have a slight downward tilt, which gives you better focus on the signal. The actual installed antenna was a little different because the installed antenna wasn't all three sixty degrees, and we're going to get to it in a minute. It was only 120 degrees. In other words, we're trying to focus the area to specific zones. So it's not all three sixty degrees around.

3:45:21 – 3:46:04Speaker 12

Okay? The frequency band used, as said, is 2,500 megahertz and that is for it's a five gs band, again, for data and for speech. It can handle up to two fifty watts, actual use is about 40 watts. The signal strength and gain, as you can see, can reach up to 8.9 decibels. And it has the ability to have 24 ports.

3:46:04 – 3:46:39Speaker 12

Mean, these are all technical aspects. The actual tower that was installed, the actual antenna installed, was mounted at a pole, now 22 feet high. Now, this argument comes up. Well, is it 22? Is it 30? It really doesn't matter from a radio frequency point of view. That's very little impact in terms of the radio frequency distribution in the area. And it's also depending on where you measure. Are you measuring from the base? Are you measuring from the middle?

3:46:39 – 3:47:19Speaker 12

So that's the but the point is, on the FCC information, this was used and this is where I got the information from. This actual setup uses four paths and also using 2,500 megahertz. As I said, the actual spread of the signal is 128 degrees, not three sixty all around. The power outputs are 40 watts transmitted, but it spreads out very safely. And what's different in this from the factory is that there are minor tweaks for installation.

3:47:19 – 3:47:58Speaker 12

For example, there is no down tilt. And the reason is we have a flat terrain. In flat terrain, you want neutral. So we're keeping our antenna at zero degrees. And it provides in Florida, where it's flat, it provides ideal reach for coverage for as many people as possible. It works as expected. There were no surprises. So we talked about how also a little bit of how it works. And actually, after winter, I went back. Sorry.

3:47:58 – 3:48:23Speaker 12

Here we go. RF exposure. Is it safe? So RF is radio frequency waves. They're like essentially, they're like invisible signals for phones. Right? Non harmful, non ionizing and can't damage DNA like an X-ray can. X-ray can damage DNA. These are non ionizing. They cannot damage DNA.

3:48:24 – 3:48:57Speaker 12

At ground level, exposure is about 0.32 megawatts per centimeter squared, or up to 1.29 with reflections. That is a fraction of the safe limit. We saw that the safe limit's in the hundreds of thousands. The safe limit for the FCC is one megawatt per centimeter squared for this frequency, averaged again, remember it's averaged over thirty minutes. It's not immediate.

3:48:58 – 3:49:29Speaker 12

It's averaged over time. I need to say that the beam hits the ground first. You see, because of the signal, it's a lobe. Remember, it's also like this lobe. And it's also a lobe in the vertical. So it actually hits the ground. And then, at one point, then there's the middle part of the lobe. And then there's the furthest part of the lobe. The strongest part of the lobe is the middle. That's where the strongest signal is.

3:49:30 – 3:50:03Speaker 12

It's hitting the ground about 40 feet away from the tower, which is well into the house that's adjacent. So it's probably two thirds into that house is where that first hits, which is a weaker signal than further out. In fact, our strongest signal that we measured was at the alleyway behind the house. We even had a stronger signal at on the street behind that. So and the weaker signal was right in front of the tower.

3:50:04 – 3:50:40Speaker 12

And of course, it's because of the way the signal works and how it distributes the signal. So these are the rules in compliance. We've talked about them already. The FCC Florida State basically follows FCC. The City Of Hollywood follows FCC, but also has its own rules for zoning and for putting these towers in place.

3:50:41 – 3:51:27Speaker 12

And your zoning rules and your all your rules and your ordinances allow placement of the tower of the small tower in the right of way. It's a swale between the road and the walkway. So that's permitted under the code and under the rules for the city of Hollywood. So not only did we look at the safety issue, but we also looked at the rules of placement and they were that. So all government, all levels of government say it's compliant, which is safety first, but supports better self-service.

3:51:27 – 3:52:11Speaker 12

In other words, key thing is safety and then we worry about providing additional self-service to residents. Okay. So we did the field testing, as I mentioned. I'm going over this again. And again, the highest I'm going through the results the highest amount, which is eight volts per meter and 1,200 microwatts per meter squared, is still 75 to 150 times below FCC limits and very close to the same with the WHO and other European organizations.

3:52:13 – 3:52:50Speaker 12

We did also measure the fluctuation of usage, which proves that all equipment was responding to demand. So in other words, if someone gets on the phone, yes, the intensity went up. If somebody gets off the phone, the intensity goes down. We measured all of that. And there are a few of our measurements, where the maximum being behind the home at 7.7 there, but it's still point zero one percent of the allowable. Sub? 001%. JAMES Allowable, correct. 0.01% of allowable. Yes.

3:52:52 – 3:53:25Speaker 12

You've got to realize also that old cell phones, when we used to do this in the old days, the two gs, the two and a half gs, they used to use a lot of power, real high power, to get the signal out. And at that time, there were a lot of issues. But it was mostly the issues were not even the signal then. The issues were the phone itself in those old days. They used to tell us not to keep the phone attached to your head because those phones had so much power, the two gs and the 2.5 gs.

3:53:25 – 3:53:55Speaker 12

And so they used to say they keep it. And that was, to a degree, was true. The five gs phones, power is so small compared to anything that was prior. And it's non ionizing. When we compared microwave and I think we I did compare microwave. And actually, the microwave for thirty minutes, warming up your food for thirty minutes, gives you a range, depending on the strength of the microwave.

3:53:55 – 3:54:32Speaker 12

maximum was one micro I think it was basically, it was double that of thirty minutes of exposure from the tower, from the antenna. So the actual microwave is double if you're warming up your food for thirty minutes. So in essence, if you're on your cell phone a lot, it's going to be more exposure than what this is transmitting. The antenna basically, the conclusion is the antenna is safe. It's 100% compliant and there are no violations.

3:54:32 – 3:55:03Speaker 12

Not in safety and not in a code local zoning codes. The exposure is minimal and well below all the limits. Recommend, approve, continue use, Monitor if you need to, if you feel it's up to the city to monitor, to make sure that it isn't going over these levels. That's your prerogative. But there are no health risks based on evidence.

3:55:06 – 3:55:39Speaker 12

For concerns, though, you can use a wide internet. Just one other point I want to mention. This is what I decided on this in the last minute because I did mention in my report that the FDA, the Food and Drug Administration, has also looked at this. And no clear casual association between RF exposure and healthy issues like cancer, like brain tumors, leukemia, or other malignancies, genotoxicity, or other adverse outcomes. There's nothing.

3:55:40 – 3:56:11Speaker 12

The RF from five gs and wireless devices is non ionizing, cannot damage DNA. And the primary really causes thermal effects. Tissue heating, but only at high levels. All the studies have shown that there's zero damage because the levels are too low to cause any damage. So there's no established non thermal effects, no fertility, neurological functions, or immune systems. I mean, the FDA has basically given it the green light completely as well.

3:56:13Speaker 1

So you're saying this should be very good news for the public at large,

3:56:17Speaker 12

is exactly what I'm saying. It is done to help the public. It's done to provide service to the public for many reasons, not only for

3:56:27Speaker 5

voice. But you're saying from a public

3:56:28Speaker 1

health standpoint, you're saying flat out good news. At power levels like this, no detectable health risk.

3:56:36 – 3:57:03Speaker 12

JOSHUA Exactly. That's exactly what I'm saying. There were some studies that were performed before in New Hampshire that they screamed and yelled. And the truth is that that study was never completed. There was a second phase that they said they were going to do, and it was never done. And so they decided to go on emotion rather than on science. And that's the only one that's ever been out that has anything to do with

3:57:03 – 3:57:17Speaker 1

JOSHUA All right, Mr. Something Zadakov. So our commissioners might have some questions for you because I see some of them have clicked in to speak. And then if they have questions on legal process, Mr. Resnick is here too. And so let's go ahead with Commissioner Kaleri.

3:57:18Speaker 8

Hi. Thank you for that's right here. Hi.

3:57:21Speaker 12

Oh, sorry. Here we go.

3:57:22 – 3:58:04Speaker 8

So thank you for the in-depthness and explanation. I do have a question. Have you experienced, based on what you presented, the tower safe? But have there been any attributing factors like anything that could create a larger, could there be products used in the surrounding area, whether it be a home or a facility that could amplify or create more exposure. Like if you said it hits the ground and then it goes middle and it goes up.

3:58:04 – 3:58:16Speaker 8

If it hits the ground and there's something there that could trigger those frequencies to be elevated, have you ever experienced that? Have you seen that? Could there be a contributing factor to make them higher?

3:58:16 – 3:58:45Speaker 12

Okay. So when there's topography, various topographies, there might be some bouncing off. And we've seen that, especially when you're designing the microwave, you can tend to use the topography to help you gain more distance between the microwaves, the links. That's the only time I've actually seen it. Now, I do know, though, when there's a signal and you have a lot of items in the house.

3:58:45 – 3:59:14Speaker 12

Let's say you have five phones next to the signal and you have your computer there and your computer is using data that's using the same signal, there might be a little bit higher exposure than would be just from the tower itself. Would it be in excess of the rules? For sure not. Because we're looking at, you know, 150 times, 75 times. It's not going to be that high. But it will create slightly elevated levels of exposure.

3:59:14 – 3:59:42Speaker 8

And nothing such as, for example, since these towers are being dispersed throughout everywhere in Florida, metal roofs, wiring, anything that you can think of that has created an elevation. Or wiring even underground, like underground wiring or sewer pipes. Anything of that nature that could create that frequency to be elevated. I guess just out of curiosity.

3:59:42 – 4:00:22Speaker 12

Yeah. None of these have shown anything. You've got to realize how the high frequency of this signal, it's super high and therefore, it doesn't really affect a lot of these static items that you talk about. It'll only affect other types of radio signals. That's where the effect usually happens. But it won't affect steel, piping, things like that. And most of the signal is also transmitted horizontally. So it doesn't the weaker part hits the ground. That's true. Most of it actually goes in and then dies out.

4:00:22 – 4:00:49Speaker 12

It goes infinitely and dies out. So that's why you have many of these. In fact, there's another one being built a few blocks away from this house, which is also the same thing. It's just that these need many of these because the signal doesn't go very far and it dies out quite quickly. So, but there has not been any shown significance of elevation due to static items. No.

4:00:49 – 4:01:29Speaker 8

So I guess my last question would be, so you know the reason why we brought you in is because we've had this resident with a lot of concern about the exposure and the effects of what their family is experiencing. And although we don't want to dismiss that, thank you, or negate it, have you in your expertise type of situation, have you experienced these same complaints? And has there been a resolving issue that you could point to that would lessen the exposure?

4:01:29Speaker 12

Oh, I have encountered a couple of these before.

4:01:35Speaker 12

And I've been to hearings because of this.

4:01:38 – 4:02:21Speaker 12

And I used to when I show mathematically, like in my report, that there's absolutely nothing and then I can show it showing that, look, we measured it and the measurements kind of match what I did mathematically. There is no reason for alarm. And with that said, has that been enough? For some people, no. That's true. And so there's been follow-up hearings. And at the end of the day, it's up to the commission and the city or that particular municipality to decide what happens. They have all the truth. They have all the facts. And it's up to them to decide. That's that's not my call.

4:02:21Speaker 8

Okay. Thank you.

4:02:23Speaker 1

Thank you. Let's go to Commissioner Biederman.

4:02:25 – 4:02:44Speaker 16

Thank you. So you talked about if you're using a cell phone or you're using devices, what's the radiation for a cell phone to your head compared to the radiation coming off of the tower? And have you test where did you where did you run your tests for this tower?

4:02:44 – 4:03:01Speaker 12

Okay. The tests we we actually ran the tests for a while. Even before we got to the house, we did a few extra trips around But the what we did is we tested the street on the north side.

4:03:02Speaker 12

Then there's an alleyway right You between

4:03:08Speaker 16

test in the yard

4:03:09Speaker 12

or Oh yes, oh yes. I kept getting there.

4:03:12 – 4:03:48Speaker 12

sorry. And then we went to the tower, tested in different directions from the tower to make sure because you know the signal, as I mentioned, is not three sixty degrees. It's only 120. And so you want to test how the actual signal is operating. So we tested to the east and west of the tower as well. And then we tested directly into the yard. As soon as we hit the house and then at the back of the house and then in the middle of the house, we tested it multiple times. But we didn't test inside the house. We tested the distances within the yard, right next to the house. We did the tests, yes.

4:03:49 – 4:04:05Speaker 12

So all the tests showed that everything was well within range. The highest test for one of the measurements was right behind the house. The highest test for one of the other measurements was in the alleyway. So these are the

4:04:05Speaker 1

And when you say highest, what level is that?

4:04:07Speaker 12

It was seven point seven and eight Vm, which is volts per meter, which is a power

4:04:15Speaker 1

rating. Per Volt. As compared to safe limits?

4:04:21Speaker 12

The same as for that. As I mentioned before, like it's 150 times more.

4:04:28 – 4:04:39Speaker 12

I think that actually this was what I said, point 01%, although the peak, I think, was 0.15 or 1.5% away from the maximum.

4:04:39Speaker 1

So you're saying this would put the family at ease to say, hey

4:04:41Speaker 12

Absolutely not.

4:04:43Speaker 1

Hallelujah. There is no problem in your eyes.

4:04:45 – 4:05:17Speaker 12

100%. There's no problem from a radio radiation point of view or from a radio frequency point of view. Now, I know that people say that they have different problems. And they might be. But nothing has shown medically. Nothing has shown in all the literature that we've researched over many, many years. And nothing mathematically as far as how a signal affects humans or how a signal affects a house. None of that is close to anything damaging.

4:05:19 – 4:05:30Speaker 16

So just to finish my question, you didn't get to the part about how much radiation is coming off of a cell phone next compared to your to the tower that's 30 or 40 or 100 feet away?

4:05:30 – 4:05:47Speaker 12

Right. So it all depends on the usage of your cell phone. People that tend to use a cell phone a lot more well, we actually did a calculation at some point that showed that people that use a cell phone a lot, which means every hour, it's up on the ear

4:05:48Speaker 12

A lot. It'll be probably five times more than what you're getting from the tower, which is still well within limits, but five times more than what's on the tower.

4:05:58Speaker 16

And you talked about using wired internet. So how much radiation does a Wi Fi in a house give off compared to that tower?

4:06:08 – 4:06:43Speaker 12

Okay. It gives off less, but a little less. Okay. Listen, we actually did it. We wanted to do just a quick measurement in case a question like this comes up. So in our offices, we actually measure because we have multiple connections, multiple computers operating, Wi Fi, high level Wi Fi. And we had more exposure to radiation than the tower gave off by double. So normally, if you're using it for a home wired Wi Fi for a home, should be less.

4:06:43 – 4:06:54Speaker 16

All right. And so is it possible something else in the house is giving radiation, like a leaky microwave or something similar to that?

4:06:55Speaker 12

Possibly. I never went into the house to measure the actual appliances. It could be that. It could be

4:07:01Speaker 16

And there's definitely a legitimate concern. I'm just trying to drill down to where that might be.

4:07:09Speaker 12

Right. So there might be several reasons for that, which from an environmental point of view, I obviously haven't looked into that.

4:07:15Speaker 16

Okay. Thank you.

4:07:16 – 4:07:30Speaker 1

While we're getting a lesson on signals and Wi Fi and things, is the Wi Fi, does it work the same so that the farthest you are from the router, the signal drops, drops, drops? I mean, I guess the obvious answer is yes since it gets weaker as

4:07:30Speaker 1

go farther away from it. Yes. I gotcha. All right. Let's go to Commissioner Schuham.

4:07:37 – 4:08:19Speaker 2

Thank you. And I guess I'll start out by saying that I'm grateful that we've taken this step. I certainly hope that it gives some peace of mind. But with that, I have a few questions. The family is concerned that the data that the FCC is working off of is very old. And you're saying that we're so far below it that the age of that FCC data doesn't matter because we're 0.1%. Is that your point?

4:08:19 – 4:09:04Speaker 12

No, that's not exactly my point. But the latest study of the FCC was done in 2020. Five gs, I've been working on five gs, by the way, way before it came out to the public. So I've been working on five gs in the teens, 2018, 2017. This technology has been around for a while, just never made it to the public. We even got financing for a project before people even knew what five gs was. So the technology has been around. It's been studied. It's been evaluated. And therefore, it was deemed safe to the point that they allowed quick turnaround, quick installations because it is safe for the public.

4:09:04 – 4:09:33Speaker 12

So they allowed these things to go in with much less regulation than the other towers. If you remember, any time we wanted to put a tower, it was not in my backyard. That whole that was a really tough time. It used to take six months to a year just to get one tower in. This is not the case anymore. This is quick, quick, quick, quick, quick because we're trying to get make it easy for citizens to be able to drive cars, to be able to, I mean, all the, whatever we need data for.

4:09:33Speaker 8

Everything. Right.

4:09:34 – 4:10:04Speaker 2

So, I mean, I think that's part of the family's concern, is that the interest of business and quick and cell phones is taking priority over their health. But you're saying that one of the reasons, for example, we're preempted from stopping these polls is because states like Florida have agreed with the government determination that it's so safe that it doesn't warrant slowing down installation. Is that the point?

4:10:04Speaker 12

That is the point. It's also so safe compared to WHO, World Health Organization. I mean, they are.

4:10:10Speaker 15

One So question,

4:10:11 – 4:10:26Speaker 2

a specific question I have. The tower, you're saying it doesn't have three sixty. It's not radiating three sixty. It's radiating 120 degrees. Why can't it be turned away from their house?

4:10:26 – 4:11:00Speaker 12

Well, so I haven't studied the RF for this particular property and why they've done it like they have. That would be I'd have to look at the whole network for that. But there might be a reason saying they're missing coverage in this area. And so they've decided to channel the coverage to a specific direction. For all we know, they might be able to move at 10 degrees or 15 or 20 degrees. And it's to still provide the coverage. I'm not the RF engineer. So I don't know who this is actually serving. I know Crown Castle is the real estate holding it. But who they're serving, I don't know.

4:11:00Speaker 2

Okay. So that is a potential for our staff to inquire as to whether it can be slightly rotated.

4:11:07Speaker 12

Yes, that could definitely and would help for the house, for example.

4:11:11 – 4:11:49Speaker 2

Okay. And you talk about the peaks versus average exposure. I think another concern of the family is when you turn a microwave on and you make a cup of tea, it's three minutes. And it's three peak minutes, but then it's done. As opposed to this, which although it's peak high, peak low, you know, it's always there. And so it's not something where they have control. So with that concern in mind that this is always there, they can't control peaks and valleys, and you're looking at thirty minute periods, well, what's the twenty four hour impact?

4:11:49 – 4:12:28Speaker 12

Right. So the study, these studies that have been done and why they've used thirty minutes is because a thirty minute during rush hour would give you a maximum exposure. And so that would be your peak, but over a period of thirty minutes, which should be a lot. Other times, of course, it's off virtually. It's not really off. I mean, it's sleeping because nobody's using their phone. The minute somebody uses their phone or their data or something, boom, it goes up again. So there are those fluctuations. But certain times of the day, it's virtually at standstill. It's never zero, but

4:12:28Speaker 2

But it's not cumulative. It's thirty minutes and then whatever happened during those thirty minutes, it's not building on itself. Is that correct?

4:12:37 – 4:13:09Speaker 12

Well, according to the studies that I read, because I'm not a medical doctor, but the studies that I read showing that there's no cumulative effect on any of human DNA or human cells or affect cancer or anything like that. Nothing like that. And I've looked at all the studies, many of them, that involve the cumulative effects, knowing that the family was worried about that. So I did look at that. And I have not seen anything that shows anything different than what I've already discussed.

4:13:09 – 4:13:23Speaker 2

And in light of the family's concern, is there anything that you would recommend they do aside from the Wi Fi, the wired Wi Fi, that, in your opinion, would further reduce exposure?

4:13:23Speaker 12

think you brought up a very good idea. Plus, if the cell companies allows it to move the angle slightly, that might help reduce it.

4:13:33Speaker 2

So is that something that the family would coordinate DAY: directly with the

4:13:37 – 4:14:05Speaker 12

Well, I think the city needs to coordinate that the well, Crown Castle and Crown Castle with whoever the operator is AT and T, Verizon, I don't one of them. I don't know which one. That's how that would happen. And you could move it slightly to shift so there's no direct signal, if it's even direct on them. I know that it's mostly in their direction from the measurements we took, but not all in their direction. I mean, obviously not.

4:14:05Speaker 2

Yeah. I mean, seems like just turn it, you know. It's

4:14:07Speaker 12

going Well, to yeah. Again, it all depends on how their I don't know how their radio frequency planning is.

4:14:14Speaker 12

that's what will govern that. And

4:14:20Speaker 2

you said you're not a medical doctor, but you've done a lot of this. So in your opinion, it is safe for this family to be in the house?

4:14:28Speaker 12

In my opinion, if it's not, regarding the cell site, regarding the small cell, the five gs cell, 100% safe.

4:14:36Speaker 12

There might be something else today that's a problem. I don't know.

4:14:39Speaker 2

Only the five gs cell. We

4:14:40Speaker 12

can't Okay. Address anything

4:14:44Speaker 2

And aside from rotating, possibly, is there anything else

4:14:49Speaker 12

And the that wired.

4:14:50Speaker 2

Okay. Wired Wi Fi versus not wired Wi Fi.

4:14:54Speaker 1

Well, wired internet connection versus Wi Fi at

4:14:57Speaker 12

all. It's all your data going through wire rather than

4:14:59Speaker 2

Internet versus?

4:14:59Speaker 12

Right. All your data going through wire rather than

4:15:02Speaker 1

And you recommend that to any household anywhere? I mean,

4:15:05Speaker 12

it's I personally don't recommend it. Use myself, I use wireless. So I gotcha.

4:15:10Speaker 2

Okay. And my last question is, you were in front of the house, you were behind the house, you were in the alley. Why didn't you go in the house?

4:15:19Speaker 12

First of all, in the house would even be less than outside, for sure.

4:15:22Speaker 2

Does the house pack bag of shield?

4:15:25Speaker 12

And so there's a slight reduction. That's mathematics.

4:15:28Speaker 2

Even if it's angled to go directly into

4:15:30Speaker 12

It isn't angled to go directly like that. The actual high beam goes to the alleyway, not directly to the house. The house gets a side, the lower

4:15:39Speaker 2

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah. Okay. Thank you so much.

4:15:42Speaker 1

Sure. Commissioner Hernandez.

4:15:46 – 4:16:02Speaker 5

Thank you, mayor. Thank you for your presentation. Thank you for being here. Some of the questions, I think Commissioner Shewhan was very thorough. The 120 degrees that you found for it to be active, what direction is it at? Do you know?

4:16:02 – 4:16:14Speaker 12

So yeah, it's mostly towards the house. A little to the left, but mostly towards the which is towards the North.

4:16:14Speaker 5

JAMES Towards the North,

4:16:15Speaker 5

So it's northbound.

4:16:17Speaker 12

JAMES Correct.

4:16:19Speaker 5

You've read a lot of studies, but you're not a medical doctor.

4:16:25Speaker 12

That's correct.

4:16:26Speaker 5

We're all humans, and yet we're all different. Could anyone be affected by this?

4:16:36Speaker 12

It's a very general question. It's hard.

4:16:45Speaker 1

Just a minute. Just a minute, guys. Go ahead, Peter.

4:16:47 – 4:17:04Speaker 12

Sorry. It's just, yeah, it's a hard question to answer. Can anybody be affected by this? All the studies that have shown that have been performed by various agencies, not only in The US but also in Europe, have not shown that these small cells affect the health of anybody.

4:17:04 – 4:17:20Speaker 5

And the reason that I ask is because I have actually read studies where some individuals have been affected by this. So I tend to believe my residents that are saying that they're being affected by this. And I think the whole commission is trying to see if we can come up with any solution when it comes to

4:17:21 – 4:17:34Speaker 5

which makes it kind of difficult when your statement is that you haven't seen or that the threshold of the exposure is well below what's allowed.

4:17:34Speaker 12

It's so far below, I guess.

4:17:36 – 4:17:57Speaker 5

Okay. So far reaching, aside from the cell tower going away, which is what our resident is looking for, which we do not have the authority to do, as you well know, because the state has preempted us from doing that. Any thoughts of something that can be done by the residents in order to minimize their exposure?

4:17:57Speaker 12

Okay. Well, as discussed previously, one would be wired all your data, which should be wired.

4:18:05Speaker 5

Yeah, but that doesn't, the data being wired doesn't eliminate their exposure to the wireless that is being emitted.

4:18:14 – 4:18:36Speaker 12

Well, it's just going to be their point of view, there's going be less usage. That's all. I mean, know, even every single time they pick up a phone, there's going to be an increase in intensity. Anybody who uses a phone, doesn't matter. Because it's a small cell. It doesn't require too much, you know, too many people and too much data on before it starts operating.

4:18:36 – 4:19:04Speaker 5

I was part of the Florida Legis Cities Committee with the transportation when this was being brought forth by the state in order to preempt the cities. And we had concerns. And our concerns were basically that this cell towers and the main purpose was for automated cars. I think that was the main thing that they're talking about. That this was going to have this kind of effect on the residential neighborhoods.

4:19:05 – 4:19:51Speaker 5

This is one of the first poles that are being installed in the Hollywood neighbor, in that particular neighborhood. And we haven't some adverse reactions from the resident that it's directly next to it. And I'm kind of heartbroken to hear that the 120%, it's actually in towards their direction where they have been very vocal about their health concerns and their children's health concerns. And we even have a medical doctor sending us a note saying that there's trouble in paradise here. So we reaching out to you as an expert to see if there's anything that we can do as a municipality to be able to address this, to see how we can help not only our current resident, but maybe future issues when it comes to this.

4:19:51Speaker 5

But you telling us that based on the data and based on what you've done, there's not much we can do.

4:19:55 – 4:20:08Speaker 12

Well, except trying to shift it, if you can. If you can get them to shift the angle slightly, that's one thing. But other than that, know, apart from relocating the tower, I don't think there's anything else.

4:20:08 – 4:20:19Speaker 5

And I'm going to ask you something and please don't get this the wrong way, but I won't be doing my job if I don't. Have you ever been an expert that would go against the cell industry?

4:20:19 – 4:20:51Speaker 12

Yes. There was a time where we had a hearing and I was representing a homeowner association because they were actually exceeding the blasting of their towers. Were pointing in the wrong direction and it was black. And this was on top of a condominium. And I took all the measurements and we actually ended up suing T Mobile and won the case on behalf of the homeowners.

4:20:51Speaker 5

And the reason I asked that question, and please don't hold that No,

4:20:54Speaker 5

Is because our residents are here and they want to hear that they're talking to or from an individual that it's impartial, that you're just following the evidence.

4:21:03 – 4:21:23Speaker 12

Right. And this was in Florida, in Aventura, actually, at a condominium that we had been working as other engineers. We're doing other engineering work there, where they asked us to look at their tower, knowing that I had the expertise in that. And we did. And it took about a year and a half until T Mobile finally settled with him.

4:21:23 – 4:21:39Speaker 5

Okay. And I'm going to ask you a personal question at this point. If this was your family member that was living in this house and they were showing medical problems with their children and them themselves, what would you do and what would you tell them?

4:21:39Speaker 12

Okay, it's really hypothetical. What do you mean in a real bad position? I don't On the other hand

4:21:46Speaker 5

By the way, the reason I asked this is because you seem to be, to me, a fair human being.

4:21:52Speaker 5

And I asked that question because these are real people.

4:21:55Speaker 12

No, 100% I agree. They are. And I've seen a lot of the correspondents and I understand where they're coming from. I'm just telling you what I know. That's all he's an expert. I'm not trying to

4:22:05Speaker 5

No, no. That's the reason I said this is a personal if this was your family member, what would you tell them?

4:22:10 – 4:22:40Speaker 12

So the other thing I'll say, listen, most of your issues are probably not from the tower that's been put. You have this five gs small cell. No. Let's look at the other there may be a lot of other reasons. Let's look at all the other reasons. And maybe we'll find something else. And if so, then we need to deal with that or move or whatever the case is, depending what's causing this health problem. But we need to look at other issues as well as just that.

4:22:40 – 4:23:15Speaker 5

Okay. All right. But wait a minute. Vice Mayor, I know what you're saying, but that is not our decision. That is something that we may be able to bring to the sale providers as we understand it. Utah, based on our expert, is focused on 120 degrees and it happens to be on top of their house. So that's something that we just found out now and we can address. But that's not really up to us and you know, the state. We may need to get them involved and say, hey, this is what's happening because they preempted us. So they need to work with us in order to see if we can come up to a resolution.

4:23:15 – 4:23:33Speaker 5

I'm asking the questions that I think are relevant to something like this. But I'm kind of disheartened to find out that the residents have been complaining to the company about their health issues. And now we're finding out that the 120% that the cell tower is operating is operating directly in their direction.

4:23:34Speaker 12

In Not 130%. It's the

4:23:37Speaker 1

CHRISTIAN 20 degree.

4:23:39Speaker 12

Normally, it's three sixty.

4:23:40Speaker 5

CHRISTIAN But the 120 degrees it is functioning is pointing towards their house on the North side.

4:23:44Speaker 12

BERNSTEIN: as I said, normally, they're three sixty.

4:23:47Speaker 12

CHRISTIAN this case, just limit it to 120.

4:23:52Speaker 5

So if it's normally three sixty degrees, and now they've only focused on 120 degrees, would it be fair to say that that will be a stronger signal? GREGORY

4:23:59 – 4:24:10Speaker 12

DELL: No. The reason is, is what they do, they've reduced the amount of power on this particular one. They can actually up that power so they can keep the same in all that's an omnidirectional.

4:24:10 – 4:24:23Speaker 5

Omnidirectional, I got it. You for you've been very informative. I don't know what else to ask you that relates to this thing, or how to ask you that it doesn't because you're not a medical doctor, but

4:24:23Speaker 12

I cannot answer medical

4:24:25 – 4:24:49Speaker 5

But I don't think that our residents are coming up with these things or making up things that are happening to them. I think that maybe something, whether it's in their house or whether it's a cell tower. But they were not experiencing these problems prior to that cell tower coming there. So that is what I think I'm having an issue grappling with when it comes to that. So I thank you for your time. And Mayor, I don't have any other questions.

4:24:49 – 4:25:32Speaker 1

Yeah, well what I want to do, it's about 05:30 now. We have 5PM citizen comments. Let's table this item real quick. I have folks that were here for 05:00 comments. We've got the cadets here. Mr. Zadikov, please have a seat, but stick around. We'll pick up again. I just want to add a respect for everyone here who comments. Let's do citizen comments first, and then we'll do the cadets. I don't think we have too many citizens here, but we do have some. Pat, I'll take the cards. Unless you're here to speak on I'll ask. Anne Raulston, are you here to speak on the five gs? Because five gs, I'm going to do after. So if you could just share your comments, not five gs, and then

4:25:32 – 4:26:10Speaker 24

I get the difference. First, I don't need a lecture, thank you very much, from you. I do understand zoning codes. I love the way that you answer me to try to correct what I have to say. The zoning codes are fluid, I think is what you said, and that we go with the city's direction. Well, apparently, that's you guys, the city, not the citizens who actually put you there. We decide the direction, but the board seems to ignore that that would be you folks. We have a mitzvah now. We have five gs polls. We have thirteen oh one.

4:26:11 – 4:26:51Speaker 24

If we're such a loud minority, let's put it to a vote, especially thirteen oh one. The MiFFA, you had somebody get appointed to that board that was trying to I got a letter that she can help me with my real estate leads now that the MiFFA is coming. There's something ethically wrong. That vote should be thrown out and reheard with the facts. You're saying visual pollution for the beach that you just ignored the public that came and not one person spoke to move that 300 yards, not one said move it, it's safer.

4:26:51 – 4:27:23Speaker 24

Not one. It's been 300,000, but you ignored the public again and you voted to lower that or do whatever you're going to do for those barriers because before they were visual blight. Will you give me every speed hump down that street that's got 18 signs in a block, in a five block notice? If that's not visual blight with all those speed hump signs, I don't know what is. And by the way, those speed humps that I complained about that you cannot go the speed limit over them, now all of a sudden they're lowering it.

4:27:23 – 4:27:46Speaker 24

I go out, there's a bunch of trucks out there digging up my speed table, And I said, what are you doing? And they're going, we're lowering it. It's now worse. And by the way, as an older driver, and somebody hits those speed humps when I'm trying to get home at night, those lights hit my eyes directly that almost blind me. And that's not because they've got their high beams on.

4:27:46 – 4:28:10Speaker 24

It's as they hit that bump and if they're going fast, that really shines. And now in my living room, when they speed over that table, this is what I get it, the flash of those lights in my living room. That when it was a flat service, I didn't have that problem. So if you're going to ignore the public, please, and please don't ever lecture me up here again. I do know the difference.

4:28:10Speaker 1

You I'll normally be happy to not answer your questions and try to be helpful. All right, let's go to Siobhan McLaughlin. You just don't like the answers. Followed by Susan Mercier.

4:28:22 – 4:28:42Speaker 38

Afternoon, Mayor, Commissioners, Staff, and Residence. Siobhan McLaughlin, 1409 Rodman Street. I'd like to commend Commissioner Quintana and the C Med staff, Alex Riccio and Debbie Torchio, who were involved in the really wonderful event, the Party on the J. It was lovely. And kudos to all who participated and made it very successful.

4:28:43 – 4:29:25Speaker 38

I'd like to address an issue for the benefit of the residents who may not be aware of the problems with the 1434 Monroe Street Mitfa, but would be distressed with the approval of this project. I understand that the board member who voted for the project and its outrageous variances has resigned from the historical planning board after soliciting clients for her real estate business. This is an appropriate outcome. In my opinion, however, this is not the most egregious problem with this project. The fact that when it was approved by the historical planning board last month, there was a lien on the property for fines that were accruing at $1,000 a day, already in excess of $150,000 which is owed to the city as of noon today.

4:29:25 – 4:29:49Speaker 38

And I checked with the code staff. Why this application was allowed to proceed with outstanding fines or not stop when the staff was made aware of the fines is shocking. This property was first sited in November 2023 for the unpermitted work. This is the type of applicant that's allowed to ask for a variance and exceptions. I think the residents would say emphatically, no.

4:29:49 – 4:30:19Speaker 38

How the planning and development department is protecting the residents by ignoring such rules with no consequence to the applicants for violating them. Taking the holistic approach that the staff says was needed, which things can be considered and which can be ignored. Shouldn't the historical planning board at least have been made aware of the monies owed and the liens that were in fact there? There was whoops, sorry. I've lost my spot. So, they were allowed to proceed.

4:30:19 – 4:30:51Speaker 38

shocking. And I've lost my space completely. I apologize. It was wrong. And I urged the commission to ask the staff to review the entire process. There were the variance requests that were outrageous. People disagreed on the size. There is the ethical considerations of the historical planning board member. There are questions about the liens and when they could apply for it. And so, for all of these reasons, I urge you to ask the staff to revisit the proposal completely.

4:30:52 – 4:31:12Speaker 38

I'm speaking for myself, but I think I do echo the concerns of my civic association. I'd also like to note the passing of Sue Gonsberger, our friend and colleague on the board. And we extend our sympathies to her. And most especially, we'd like to extend our deepest condolences to Commissioner Kalari on the death of her mother. Thank you, and may their memories be a blessing.

4:31:13Speaker 1

Thank you, Siobhan. Susan Mercier, followed by Mary Kate DeBenedetto.

4:31:22Speaker 2

Hello. Hello. My name is Susan Mercier. I'm a 20

4:31:26Speaker 1

Okay. Adam Trop.

4:31:33 – 4:32:10Speaker 41

I'm Adam Trop. I live at 1219 Lincoln Street. And I'm here to talk about the mikveh issue. While I was really disappointed with the result of that mikveh vote, I'm downright angry at the way city staff acted during those two proceedings. Angry, including the city attorney's office. And I'm angry that there's $150,000 in fines that is owed to this city. Is the city that flush with cash that we don't need that money? Why isn't that money being collected? And why was that vote allowed to be taken? I'm really upset by it.

4:32:10 – 4:32:47Speaker 41

And the overwhelming majority of the people in this city are. Yet somehow, staff was completely overzealous, jumping all over themselves to try to get this thing approved, chastising board members, giving false legal advice. The attorneys were giving false legal advice that is the opposite of Florida law, not allowing the board to consider that outstanding fine. One board move as you've heard, one board member who approved this, voted to approve this, has already had to quit because of unethical conduct, trying to profit off it. This whole thing is tainted.

4:32:47 – 4:33:16Speaker 41

You have to do something about it. There's a stench about it. So I've tried to do something about it myself. I've issued a public records request to the city. Two months ago, I sent this out. I don't have it yet. The most recent response was, yeah, basically, I'm asking for emails containing the term mikvah or arlupa in it. That's it, right, to a handful of people. I was told a

4:33:16Speaker 12

couple days ago, Okay, we'll give

4:33:17 – 4:33:56Speaker 41

you those records. Pay us $2,500 These are my records and this group's records. We own those records. We're entitled to them, not the staff. They're ours. There's a law. Now, I guess I could pay the $2,500 get But it's much easier for me as a lawyer to just go down and file a lawsuit and get it. Does the city have the money to fight a lawsuit and maybe pay attorney's fees on top of it rather than just give the records that they owe? Will somebody please call the city attorney's office or the clerk's office, whoever it is, and say, hey, this guy dropped. He just asked for these records.

4:33:56 – 4:34:27Speaker 41

Could you just send them to him on a disk or something? It's not that big of a deal. Maybe there's nothing there. I think there is. But I think people have been threatened by a special interest group. And that is what led to this city staff acting the way it did in supporting this mikveh. I think there's something untoward here. And I'd like to find out about it. So I really would ask for you to please speak to whoever you have to speak to and just give us the records, or I'm going to file suit. Thank you. Thanks.

4:34:28 – 4:34:54Speaker 1

So Sergio, I'll call you later. Chris and Amanda Albertelli, can I call you after We'll address that during the comments by everybody? Feel free to speak. It's your right to speak citizen comments. And fire chief will do the cadets right after. Thank you for your patience, cadets.

4:34:54 – 4:35:32Speaker 11

Thank you, everyone. Good evening, mayor and commissioners. My name is Chris Albertallia, and I lived in my home for over twenty four years. I'm not here to oppose the wireless service programs that are being popped up all over the city. And I'm not asking the city to make a decision based solely on RF health effects. I understand that those issues regulated separately. I'm here because this installation appears to have moved forward without compliance in the city's own siting and permitting requirements. And that matters. First, this project relied on a building permit that had expired long before the equipment was assembled on-site. We've been told it should be treated as a right of way permit, and it does not expire.

4:35:32 – 4:36:01Speaker 11

But we have not been shown the ordinance language supporting that interpretation, and it is inconsistent with how comparable cities handle similar permits. Second, the city's placement preference hierarchy and least intrusive location standards were not followed. Development services specifically requested a documented alternatives review. What came back months later was simply no, with no analysis. No list of alternatives and no explanation, only a statement that the location was selected through a proprietary process.

4:36:01 – 4:36:44Speaker 11

Third, the equipment was activated while this review was still pending. This undermines the integrity of the permitting process and the public's trust. We are not asking for this project to be denied. We are asking for a minor relocation to a nearby non residential site, such as the school or a church location already identified, which would increase separation from homes by several 100 feet, remain within the same service area, be closer to the existing fiber infrastructure, and have available power options for all of those functions. These locations clearly meet the city's intent to minimize residential impact while supporting service coverage.

4:36:45 – 4:37:16Speaker 11

I also need to state for the record that the current sighting has created serious hardships for my household, including ADA related impacts. They're very serious. While we understand these issues cannot be the basis for denial alone, they highlight why proper sighting and adherence to ordinance standards is so important in the first place, long before this type of a disaster could attack anyone's unsuspecting home. We're asking for the city to enforce its own rules. Start back at the beginning.

4:37:16 – 4:37:43Speaker 11

Look this thing over with a fine tooth comb. And we do not believe that that effort has been applied. Require documented alternatives analysis that demonstrate that those alternatives, which we know exist, are show how they're not viable. They cannot be. It's undeniable. Direct the relocation and in a compliant manner to a less intrusive site. There are no excuses for not doing this. Thank you for your time and consideration.

4:37:43Speaker 1

Thank you, Chris. Mrs. Albertalli, would you like to speak now or afterwards?

4:37:54 – 4:38:12Speaker 26

Just reasons. But if they're 18 in the program, we'll continue them on as they're going through school, give them the opportunity to ride along with us, experience that firsthand look at what it is. I was an explorer growing up. And I look at it as a test drive for a career while you're in high school. When you get out of high school, you're spending that money to go for your career.

4:38:12 – 4:38:55Speaker 26

And this is an opportunity to test drive that career and see if this is truly for them, whether the claustrophobic of being in firefighting gear or crawling through confined spaces or riding on the trucks and being exposed to blood and guts or sick individuals. This is an opportunity before they go down that path. While they're in this program, this is going to be our feeding program. We're hoping to use this as our feeding program for the future Hollywood firefighters. So while they're in school, we're going to mentor them while they're in school. If they're going through EMT school, we're going to mentor them through EMT school, have them ride with us during EMT school to get through that program paramedic school as well, and as well as the fire academy. Once they go to the fire academy, we're going to mentor them, train them. And this is all preparation for those ambitions down the future.

4:38:57Speaker 26

Any questions?

4:38:58 – 4:39:18Speaker 1

Alright. Well, I I would say on behalf of the city commission, welcome. It was great to meet you all during the party on the j. Obviously, a very respectful group. Maybe as vice mayor Coleri just has suggested, maybe we can have you all each come to the mic, tell us, you know, your name and what high school you go to and maybe what your future endeavors are.

4:39:19Speaker 8

And then you didn't hurt your arm, Jerry.

4:39:21 – 4:39:33Speaker 16

No. My name is cadet Daniel Johnson, and I go to Jeremiah Academy. It's a private school. I'm in ninth grade. I'm 14 years old.

4:39:34Speaker 1

Alright. I love that you have the direction now that you're pursuing. Great.

4:39:41Speaker 16

My name is Aidan Packlin, and I go to Shawano Madonna College Preparatory.

4:39:46Speaker 1

Great. Welcome, Aidan.

4:39:48Speaker 16

And I'm a junior, eleventh grade.

4:39:55Speaker 37

My name is Corey Opsis Lehman. I'm 15, and I go to Chaminade Bodhana College Preparatory.

4:40:00Speaker 10

What grade are

4:40:01Speaker 37

I'm in ninth grade.

4:40:05Speaker 13

Hi, I'm Leila Parlini Garcia. I go to Western High School. I'm in ninth grade.

4:40:12Speaker 2

Good evening, everyone. I'm Manuel Rodriguez. I go to South Broward. I'm 16, and I'm a sophomore in tenth grade.

4:40:22Speaker 16

evening. My name is Cadet Moniz. I go to South Broward High School. I'm a 17 year old junior. And, yeah, thank you.

4:40:29 – 4:40:47Speaker 26

And these men and women behind us, This program could never happen without the men and women behind us. These firefighters from the city of Hollywood take time out of their evenings and their weekends and their days to come train these individuals on what it's like to be a firefighter.

4:40:48 – 4:41:08Speaker 1

Well, I'll tell you, cadets sorry to the police chief, but as a city commission, we always say to ourselves, wish I began young and pursued a career being a firefighter paramedic. So it's a great career path, and I applaud you guys for the direction that you're pursuing. Great to meet all of you.

4:41:08Speaker 26

Do you mind if we get a picture?

4:41:12 – 4:41:32Speaker 26

Come on, guys. You guys in the middle. Pretend you like each other.

4:42:00 – 4:42:28Speaker 1

Alright. Thank you all so much. We're gonna continue addressing the five gs poll item. And so we heard from Mr. Zadikov. We had an opportunity for the city commission to ask him some questions. That opportunity remains. We have some folks who want to speak. But before they do, perhaps we can invite Mr. Resnick up here and just tell us what he found or if we have any directed questions.

4:42:28 – 4:43:08Speaker 1

Obviously, Mr. Resnick, you heard the family, you know, points to I don't know if you've had a chance to really dig into the permit history or since you actually were the attorney that helped us draft our ordinance, which was intended to be the tightest as can be vis a vis the state preemption, maybe you can give us a little bit of an overview of where we are and what's being requested within the legal confines of the governing law and what you think the dynamics are here from a legal perspective because we'd like to understand if and what options we have. And we're doing it out in the open here. Thank you.

4:43:08 – 4:43:31Speaker 14

GARY So Gary Resnick, Gray Robinson. It's a pleasure to be here again and nice to see you all. It's been a while. And as you indicated, mayor, I did assist the city with drafting the ordinance after Florida adopted their communications rights away statute, which is 337.401. It was first adopted in 2017 and amended in 2019.

4:43:31 – 4:44:03Speaker 14

And you adopted an ordinance shortly thereafter. And it is, as the mayor indicated, a very restrictive ordinance to the extent allowed under Florida law. Now, the issues that you're talking about, primarily the VRF emissions issues, those are governed by federal law. They're not governed by Florida law. So the Telecommunications Act of 1996 basically provides that the FCC, the Federal Communications Commission in Washington, has exclusive jurisdiction to regulate RF emissions.

4:44:03 – 4:44:41Speaker 14

And it preempts explicitly states and local governments from making decisions citing these facilities or even adopting land use codes based on considerations of RF emissions and how they may affect the health of residents. So you're not allowed under federal law to regulate any wireless facilities based on RF emissions. It's expressly preempted to the FCC. Florida isn't either. So the Florida statute, 337.401, regulates local governments in Florida as far as how they process applications to site these types of facilities.

4:44:42 – 4:45:27Speaker 14

And it preempts you in a large degree. And then you adopted an ordinance to govern your staff with respect to how they process these applications. And your staff processed this application. And I did look at the permit. And I did speak with your city attorney. And we had a conference with your city staff as well. And it looks like they complied with your ordinance with respect to processing this application. There's a very select number, finite number, of reasons why you can deny a small wireless facility, such as this pole. And it doesn't look like any of those reasons applied. It cannot exceed the height of the tallest utility pole within 500 feet.

4:45:27 – 4:45:50Speaker 14

It doesn't look like that's an issue here. This pole is only 32 feet or so. And I believe that there are much taller utility poles within 500 feet. It cannot interfere with site triangles for traffic or for pedestrian access. It cannot affect or interfere with traffic equipment, such as signaling equipment and things of that nature.

4:45:50 – 4:46:40Speaker 14

It cannot interfere with other utilities, which your staff did make comments on the permit to have it moved in such a way so that it would be further away from some underground utilities. It has to comply with what's known as the FDOT Utility Accommodation Manual, which is, again, more very technical rules and regulations as to how to locate these things so that they don't interfere with roads and utilities. And it can't cause a violation of the ADA, the Americans Disability Act, in terms of access for sidewalks, for people in wheelchairs and such. So staff reviewed my understanding is that your staff reviewed what's required under your ordinance, which would include all of those aspects, and issued the permit. So you have a permit that was issued lawfully by the city.

4:46:41 – 4:47:18Speaker 14

And you have a facility that was constructed by the owner consistent with that permit. And so it's very difficult. I'll be honest with you, I mean, I'm very understanding of the family's plight here. And I understand the city's ability to try and help them. But I think you're very restricted as to what you can do with respect to forcing the removal of this poll at this point legally. You can always do whatever you want, but they could challenge it in court. And I'm not supportive of your chances if they did that. And I'll answer any questions.

4:47:18Speaker 1

Let's go to questions to Gary, Commissioner Vice Mayor Caleri.

4:47:22Speaker 8

Thank you for being here. In reference to the permit that the family is saying that there was like an overlap or an expiration

4:47:31Speaker 14

CHRISTIAN Time frame.

4:47:32Speaker 8

MARY What is your input on that?

4:47:33 – 4:47:50Speaker 14

CHRISTIAN So the statute and your ordinance provides expressly that these permits are good for one year, not six months. And I know it was issued in 2014. I'm not sure when the facility was constructed. '24, I'm sorry. Aging myself.

4:47:51Speaker 14

But 2024, and I'm not sure if it was constructed within that WOOD: one year period. And

4:47:57Speaker 1

if it wasn't, if it was thirteen months, fourteen months,

4:48:00 – 4:48:41Speaker 14

Well, again, there's an issue with requiring the revocation of a permit the tearing down of a facility that's been lawfully constructed pursuant to a permit issued by the city. The owner of the facility has the right under Florida law to rely on that permit. There's an estoppel argument, is provided under Florida law. And the Florida statute provides that the only statutory reason to rescind or revoke a permit and require the removal of a facility is if it's built in violation of the Florida Building Code. This doesn't look like it was constructed in violation of the Florida Building Code.

4:48:41 – 4:49:15Speaker 8

So with all due respect, Gary, please excuse me. But if you please don't yell out. I know that you're so compassionate about it. And we understand that. But just write down the questions. We'll give you an opportunity to present them. But just yelling out doesn't set the stage properly. I don't mean to call you out, but I just want to make that. Now, you had mentioned something about that we're not even allowed. Are we allowed, as a city, to request the movement of the radius, of the projected radius?

4:49:15 – 4:49:33Speaker 8

Can we, as a city, based on what was presented today by the expert, so called expert, can we request for them to take a look at it and just even tweak it even enough so that it's not this direct entry?

4:49:33Speaker 14

Well, Vice Mayor, you can certainly request. You can request anything.

4:49:37Speaker 8

What does that mean?

4:49:38 – 4:49:50Speaker 14

You can request that. Whether you can require it is a different issue. I would want not necessarily I would be cautious with respect to requirement.

4:49:50 – 4:50:28Speaker 8

So won't they have, with that adjustment, if we request it, and that adjustment, don't they have, like, I guess diagrams to show the radius and the directions of the coverage? Because I remember when we fought, Commissioner Schoham and I fiercely fought the tower being placed in Westlake Village area, there was this whole gap of frequency. And so I guess we need to see that and know that in order to be able to say, hey, can you tweak it? Because if there's a gap it's going to cause, then we're limited. And we're not going to be able to do that either.

4:50:28 – 4:50:52Speaker 14

There's an engineering basis for where these poles are located. And it is, as your expert indicated, it is to get the RF signal where they need it. And as he indicated, they work in a chain. One signal has to feed another. And so that's an RF engineering question as to whether they can technically do it without interfering with their signal. And I don't know the answer to that.

4:50:55Speaker 1

Thank you. Have one more question? Sure.

4:50:58 – 4:51:19Speaker 12

Sure. All towers are required to get FCC permission FAA. So they go and so you to see all their, how the actual city The dynamics work. Get to see all of that. That's part of the requirement to get a permit.

4:51:19Speaker 1

Are you able to quickly obtain that for us since you know where to look?

4:51:22Speaker 12

We can go ahead and look for it, yeah. Yeah.

4:51:39 – 4:52:02Speaker 8

Because of the frequencies. And then as times go on and buildings get built, we're like, oh, you put the tower on this tall building in order to eliminate that gap. So there's always it's very fluid. It's always changing. But talking about what's happening right now, just out of curiosity, if that's something that can be looked at, maybe it can be tweaked. And we could request.

4:52:03 – 4:52:19Speaker 14

You did have the ability, by the way, when the permit was submitted under Florida statute and under your ordinance, you have the ability to negotiate a different location. And I don't know if that was pursued or not. But that was prior to it being issued, obviously.

4:52:21 – 4:52:49Speaker 1

I don't know what the staff did. Obviously, this only came to us after the poll was after the fact. And of course, now, I know it doesn't help the Albertallis with regards to this existing poll, but certainly, the staff is really aware now of whatever the opportunity is in the ordinance to be able and to if you could just describe that, what is the language and to what extent when you say negotiate the location?

4:52:50 – 4:53:35Speaker 14

JOSHUA That would be so when a company submits a permit to install a small wireless facility in the rights of way and by the way, this is rights of way. This is not private property. So it's not governed by your zoning code. It's governed just by your communications rights of way ordinance. So the zoning provisions don't apply. So they can be located throughout the entire city in the public rights of way. And if for some reason your staff doesn't like a particular location, if it's going whatever, for aesthetic purposes, for interference with access to buildings or property or whatever, they can request the relocation of where they've proposed the facility to be installed. And then there's supposed to be a ninety day process where you can negotiate that location.

4:53:35Speaker 1

And then who gets to the Well,

4:53:40Speaker 14

they don't agree

4:53:40Speaker 1

location and they don't agree, what happens?

4:53:42 – 4:54:16Speaker 14

If their application is otherwise consistent with the Florida statute and your code, then your staff would need to grant it. Or you reach an impasse. And if you deny it, well, yes and no. I mean, as I indicated, there are grounds to deny these. Like, for example, if they are going to interfere with drainage or utilities or side triangles or things of that nature. Or there are other engineering grounds to deny these things. So if your staff had a legitimate ground to deny it, they could deny the application at that point.

4:54:16Speaker 8

But they didn't open it

4:54:19Speaker 14

Like, know a lot of cities

4:54:20Speaker 1

Let's get to some other commissioners. I might have questions for you, Gary. Commissioner Hernandez.

4:54:25Speaker 5

Hi, Gary. How are you?

4:54:26Speaker 14

GARY Hi. Nice to see you, commissioner.

4:54:28 – 4:55:08Speaker 5

GARY Thank you for being here. I got a couple of questions. And this all started as, for two weeks, the family was trying to reach us, they had the wrong email address to reaching us. And therefore, the company continued to move forward. So they were a couple of weeks behind the ABO when it comes to this. But you mentioned a couple of things. And I have a question because the company, when we met with them, they have refused to provide information to the city and to staff. And they said it was proprietary information. So they said, we don't even know who the operator of this poll is. They are refusing to say which company they're serving.

4:55:09Speaker 14

Well, Crown Castle is the applicant. Crown Castle owns the poll.

4:55:14 – 4:55:50Speaker 5

But they're not saying whether it's AT and T that they're working for, T Mobile, or Verizon. They haven't said that. They said that's proprietary information. And the second that they haven't been able to give us or they don't want to give us is the diagram of the RF that requires them to have that poll there. We ask them, who are you serving number one and why is this location such a big deal that it cannot be moved? They're refusing to provide that. And I don't know if it's within our rights to ask for that or if we're at their will.

4:55:50 – 4:56:21Speaker 14

JOSHUA Right. So as I indicated, federal law preempts your ability to regulate based on RF emissions. So for one, you need to be cautious about asking about RF because if it looks application based on concerns about RF, you're going to be overturned in court as soon as you deny that application. Let me answer your question in terms of requesting that information. So Florida law, going back to Florida law, expressly limits the information that local governments can require as part of the applications.

4:56:21 – 4:56:46Speaker 14

And it says specifically in the statute that you can't require information as to their need, their RF need, for the facility. You can only ask for information related to the physical aspects of locating the facility from an engineering standpoint, but not their RF or business need for this facility in a particular location. Okay. That's preempted by Florida law.

4:56:46Speaker 5

So far, everything they've said, they have the law on their side.

4:56:50Speaker 14

They wrote it. And

4:56:54 – 4:57:31Speaker 5

so, well, the reason that we have you here and we have the expert here is we're trying to come up with anything and everything that is possible within the law for us to be able to do this. Now, there's been some questions as to the permit expiring. And you answered part of it, but you did not answer whether this permit actually expired. And if they do expire, did our staff committed a mistake by allowing this to move forward rather than to have them reapply for the permit, which would get those ninety days started again?

4:57:31Speaker 14

Right. I'm not sure if the permit expired, because I don't know when the facility was actually

4:57:36Speaker 5

I'm going ask Andy if she has that.

4:57:38 – 4:57:57Speaker 14

But the other point that you need to understand, commissioner, is any time the governor or the mayor issues an emergency order because of storms or hurricanes or whatever, that extends the permitting time. And so I don't know if there were hurricanes during that period that may have extended the one year time frame for building the facility.

4:57:57Speaker 5

And there were. And the question has arisen is, does that extension has to be in writing, or is that an automatic?

4:58:04Speaker 14

No, that's pursuant to Florida law. That's automatic.

4:58:07 – 4:58:25Speaker 5

So that's an automatic. So those are the questions that we ask and we've answered. But now you don't know who's been asking and who hasn't, so you're just answering the question for us. Thank you. Is there anything that maybe we should be asking or we should be doing that we're not doing?

4:58:26Speaker 14

Well, in terms of your ordinance or generally in this particular situation?

4:58:30Speaker 5

In this particular situation.

4:58:32 – 4:59:12Speaker 14

JOSHUA I would strongly encourage you and the family, if they feel up to it, to reach out to your member of Congress. Because I indicated the preemption on RF issues is a federal law issue. And Congress is now considering a rewrite of the Telecom Act. It's been since 1996. And there actually is legislation pending in Congress to rewrite that. So I would definitely reach out to your member of Congress, your US senators, and indicate that you'd like some more authority back as opposed to being so preempted with respect to these facilities. I know the National League of Cities and NACO and those organizations are involved in that. But there is pending legislation in Congress to amend the Telecom Act.

4:59:12Speaker 5

And if nothing else, would you be willing, if the commission agrees to do something like that, to address the Congress in our behalf?

4:59:22 – 4:59:52Speaker 14

Sure. I could put together a draft reso for you or something. And the other there is also legislation pending in Tallahassee. Are they still in session, or is it for Yeah. Another Because it wasn't a bill, but it was language that was added to a transportation bill to further preempt local governments with respect to regulating these facilities. And so if they pass that language, some of your ordinance may no longer be consistent with Florida law. So we'd have to take a look at that if they wind up passing that language.

4:59:52Speaker 5

Okay. So this is

4:59:53 – 5:00:05Speaker 14

But those are very technical details. Like, for example, they're looking at bonds. They're looking at surveys, things of that nature that local governments require with respect to these facilities. And I don't know the status of that language yet.

5:00:05 – 5:00:38Speaker 5

So I don't know what the wish or the will of the commission is regarding hiring Gary in order to be able to see what we can do at the federal level or the state level, Not in a lawsuit type, but in a request in explaining what the situation is with our residents as to what their experience has been, medical experience, their children, what they're experiencing and see if there's anything that the state or the feds can actually do to help.

5:00:39Speaker 14

We can work through your I'm happy to work with your city attorney, whatever you all decide.

5:00:44Speaker 1

Let's hear from Need one in Yes, course. Commissioner Schuham and then vice mayor.

5:00:54 – 5:01:15Speaker 2

GARY GENSLER: Thanks, Gary. My question is, while this is all fresh in your head and assuming that legislation at the state level doesn't get worse, Is there anything and I don't need an answer now, but if there's anything that other cities are doing or counties that are doing that we don't have in our ordinance? Know that when we asked you to couple do

5:01:15Speaker 9

things. Yeah.

5:01:17 – 5:01:55Speaker 14

You never really adopted aesthetic standards for these facilities. You have the right under the state law to do that. And so that's something that you may want to have your staff look at. I know some cities have adopted some pretty strict aesthetic standards, purely regulating the design. I mean, not regulating the technology or anything having to do with RF emissions, just how they look, right? And so you may want to consider that. Other cities, you're allowed under Florida law and under federal law to deny these facilities if they interfere with historic property. I don't know if that's a big concern for you in Hollywood. But some cities, Coral Gables

5:01:55 – 5:02:36Speaker 14

see are very strict with respect to where these can be located because they'll interfere with basically anything in Coral Gables that's historic, which is everything. So not many, to be honest. And if they are, they're heavily regulated as to where they can be located. The other thing that you need to take a look at and I'm happy to work with your staff or work with your city attorney's office about this you can do a lot with respect to location of fiber. You have more discretion with respect to constructing fiber. These facilities need to be connected via fiber. So that's something to consider. And I can work with the on that.

5:02:36 – 5:02:47Speaker 2

So I guess, Damaris, I think that it would be with the support of the commission take a look at our existing ordinance and toughen it up as best we can. Do I have support for that?

5:02:48 – 5:03:04Speaker 2

Okay. And I just want to say to the family, regardless of what happens, because of you, we will do better going forward in this regard. We'll improve our ordinance to the extent that we can. So thank you for that.

5:03:04Speaker 1

Thank you. Vice mayor, anything for Gary? All right. Right. So we do have some speaker cards.

5:03:13Speaker 1

Thank you, Gary. Stick around. We might have you come back. You can call her up after. Did you have something, Andrew, before we heard from

5:03:23Speaker 1

Okay. So let's hear from Jeannie Cobart, followed by Lisette Marour, then Mary Kate DeBenedetto. Jeannie.

5:03:49 – 5:04:07Speaker 25

Their meter testing versus this outside group's meter testing. I still have questions about that. Some of my comments I need to change because I wrote this before I heard everything. So some of it seems to be irrelevant. So I apologize for that.

5:04:08 – 5:04:52Speaker 25

I do definitely feel the primary role of the city manager, city attorney, development staff should always line up or sync up with the protections of the citizens first and foremost, not lastly, and increasingly not at all. So I think hearing tonight what you're doing for the situation seems, it sounds like it's going in a better direction than what I have seen in the past. For example, the mikvah, etcetera. You know what those issues are and what citizens are upset about. I wrote, it seems absurd to me that a new location does no harm to individual Holly residents cannot be located.

5:04:52 – 5:05:23Speaker 25

So we answered that on the back end. So it does seem like you do have some control over location, which apparently you didn't know you had. So I would love it moving forward if you could keep an eye on where are these locations and get in front of them as opposed to letting our citizens be hurt if you're behind the issue. Again, I wrote this before. I'm just going to kind of skip the next comment because it's in line with that.

5:05:25 – 5:06:10Speaker 25

And again, this comment, does this mean that these five gs poles can be placed willy nilly in any location, Crown Castle, or any other entity's desire? Well, again, it goes to the location question. And I hope we can solve that moving forward. That would be a good outcome. And I would like to know how we would hold these such entities accountable for the harm inflicted on the Hollywood residents affected. So again, Congress, I don't know who we reach out to. But how do we remedy the situation? We've still got this family who's suffering. And I appreciate any work on that. And then just a comment, you know, these five gs cellular devices are unsightly.

5:06:10 – 5:06:46Speaker 25

I heard two foot. I got the picture. That's not two feet. It's huge. I mean, it's a telephone pole, but it's still large. And it does affect home equity, as this family is stating. And it could affect my home equity, which of course I'm concerned about, just like the mikvah affecting my home equity. And I know it was another subject, but I also got a letter from that realtor. And so I think everyone who spoke opposed to the mikvah got a letter.

5:07:03Speaker 42

Oh, you started my time.

5:07:04Speaker 1

No, go ahead and take an extra six seconds.

5:07:08 – 5:07:45Speaker 42

So I'm actually I came up from Miami Dade. I'm Kendall resident. And it is destructive and appalling what has happened to our neighborhoods. I came home April 1 to an ambiguous door hanger about improvements to the neighborhood. And April 2 it was like an April Fool's joke. And then April 2, a 32 foot pole was there. So I'm here to support the Albertalli family. Because through the past year, we have met, as well as numerous residents throughout Florida, Orlando, Tampa, Pensacola, St. Pete have met. And we have formed a Florida coalition.

5:07:45 – 5:08:23Speaker 42

This cannot continue. I'm here speaking for his behalf, but I'm really speaking for all of our behalfs, as I think the awareness has been brought. So just like the former woman said, I too had to change a lot of notes because there's so much going on here. So pardon me, I'm going to start. We're going to skip how difficult it is to understand because I think you do already. The tower is 20 feet from my bedroom, my children's bedroom, six feet from where we garden. I home school my children. And they play underneath it all day long. I can touch it from my backyard. It's two inches from my property line.

5:08:23 – 5:08:52Speaker 42

In terms I heard someone mention it sleeps. I'm so sorry. That is incorrect. It wears all day and all night with three green lights on top of it. Okay? It never turns off. As far as your power and your position, yes, the state law is one of the most horrendous. There is some wiggle room. So I was going to ask oh gosh, my time's running out. Okay.

5:08:53 – 5:09:32Speaker 42

Federally, the bill that they spoke of, that would be lovely if you can urge them not to pass that through. But also, please know that the FCC was court ordered in 2021 to review outdated safety guidelines. They have not done so. Please urge them to do so. Or maybe put a pause to it until it's done, to the five gs rollout. Not sure if that's possible. But I do know that many elected officials across the country are taking action. Updating the local wireless ordinance, maybe look to St. Pete. They are actively working on that right now with lawyer Scott McCullough.

5:09:32 – 5:09:57Speaker 42

And then in terms of the company Crown Castle, they would not provide me the radio frequency compliance report that I asked for, for eight months. I had to go to the FCC. The FCC said that they should have provided it to me in good faith. And if I could show them on email where they stated that they would not, I did have that proof. And the FCC finally provided it to me.

5:09:57 – 5:10:39Speaker 42

I'll make this quick. The discrepancies on the report showed that the antennas had a zero degree down tilt. I had the official engineering plans from public records, which showed a fifteenth month. And that's when they just boom boom turned it on. That's when the wearing has been going on. So in my opinion it's only, and even though they put it up in 2024, they've had problems activating it apparently. I monitor my children if they complain of headaches. If they complain of blurry vision. If they complain of, you know, itchy skin or nausea. That's not like my children.

5:10:40 – 5:11:04Speaker 42

So I do have logs of it. In case that there is more going on, I try and limit their screen time. Because I don't think that's healthy either for just their mental health. The mental health, I think, is greatly affected by this in our children. It's a lot of screen. It's a lot of pulsating frequencies that we did not grow up with. So yes, that's how I'm monitoring it.

5:11:04Speaker 5

Thank you for being here and thank you for your answers.

5:11:06Speaker 42

Thank you so much for your time.

5:11:07Speaker 1

Our pleasure. Mary Kate DeBenedetto.

5:11:25 – 5:12:03Speaker 43

Sorry, I'm going get emotional I see them as everyday human beings like I see myself. I'm just a regular citizen, just like they are. And I know that this could happen to me or to anyone in Hollywood. And that makes me really sad that they've had to go through this and that their family has gone through medical issues due to this. I'm also a citizen of Hollywood. My husband is a City of Hollywood employee. He works proudly for the City of Hollywood. He loves it. And I love that he loves it. And we love Hollywood.

5:12:03 – 5:12:30Speaker 43

And so it's disheartening when these things happen. And you never think that they will. And then you hear from just everyday people. And here we are. And so I ask myself, how did the city of Hollywood get here? Why are we here? Did we make a deal with the devil or something where now all of a sudden we have to put up all of these towers? I mean, obviously, I know technology is not going anywhere. We all know that. So only these things are going to keep popping up.

5:12:30 – 5:12:54Speaker 43

And they're going to pop up all over, in every neighborhood probably. And so I think it's important. And I appreciate that you guys have already are taking initiative into seeing what can we do differently. How can we make a change? And so, yeah, it's just really important to me that I was able to speak on Chris and his family's behalf. And thank you for your time.

5:12:55Speaker 1

Thank you. All right. Anne Ralston. Don't ask me any questions.

5:13:02 – 5:13:30Speaker 24

I'm not going to. Normally, let's see, I got berated for having one of you answer a question of mine when I wasn't asking a question. So I'm surprised that you'll answer. Anyway, I noticed in the presentation by quote the expert, which I didn't hear his name and his credentials. So that I would like to have put on the record as to why he is an expert on this.

5:13:30 – 5:13:57Speaker 24

And it said two foot, as someone else mentioned. That isn't two feet. I'm only five foot, and it's way, way taller than I am. Also, the report said no known causes current. Well, you know what the cigarette companies did back in the '40s and '20s and whenever they cigarettes, great, smoke away, smoke away.

5:13:57 – 5:14:50Speaker 24

And it wasn't until 1974 that they determined by everybody dying of cancer that maybe they're bad for you. So I don't know, when you go get an x-ray, man, they flare you up for just that tiny bit of radiation that's going. And to have it above you twenty fourseven, seven days a week, on a home that they purchased to have their dream house and raise their kids, that now can't even use it because it might have been the microwave, or that they have too many phones, or a computer is absurd. It's their private castle. They should be able to use it at any given moment, and they should be able to be free and clear of dangers which we do not know, because there's no known causes.

5:14:51 – 5:15:31Speaker 24

So please be aware that even though there may be no non published effects, people get sick all the time for various reasons. Why add to putting a five gs pole there? I don't want one next to my house. Would you like one next to yours? Any of you? Let's put a poll by everybody's house and see what happens. So I'll call my your US Senator is Ashley Moody and Rick Scott. Your U. S. Representative, depending on the district, mostly Hollywood, is Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Those are the people you called. The number, I don't remember exactly off my head, so I won't give it.

5:15:33Speaker 1

All right. Thank you all, Commissioner Hernandez.

5:15:37Speaker 5

Annie, if you don't get mad at me, got a question for you.

5:15:39Speaker 24

Oh, no. Hey, listen. I'm not ask away.

5:15:44Speaker 5

You've seen the scenario. You've seen the expert. You've seen our attorney. You've seen our staff. What would you do if you were in our shoes?

5:15:52 – 5:16:45Speaker 24

I would as a coalition of a group, a body, because your local governing abilities is decreasing each day as the state and the federal try to take over local rule, like the new bill that just got passed, Live Local. So I would, as a body, along with your sister cities and whatever, I would do a coalition to send to your state and federal elected officials. People, it's really important who you elect because this is the problems we can get from local all the way up and who's stepping on whose toes. So first, I would be doing that. They're on speed dial on my phone.

5:16:45 – 5:17:04Speaker 24

I call them all the time. So that as a collective body, because it's your role they're taking away, and then you can't respond to us as citizens because that's in the way when you know it's unhealthy or not good for your citizens. So that would be my first step. My second step

5:17:04Speaker 5

By the way, that's remove the poll. That's already well, how would you remove the poll?

5:17:09Speaker 24

I don't know. I don't know the legal ramifications, and I'm not a lawyer. So I can't answer that.

5:17:13 – 5:17:38Speaker 5

Fair enough because none of us are attorneys with this and the attorneys that we talk about this, it says that we are preempted by doing that. And just so you get a little background, the Florida League of Cities did sue the State of Florida so that this preemption would happen and they lost. So we've already and I was on the transportation board when So this we've already tried those things. I'm just trying to say is, we're trying to leave no stone unturned.

5:17:38 – 5:17:56Speaker 24

I get that. And I can't appreciate that enough. But my point is, the FCC is lowering the standards. They're not increasing or checking. The federal government, there's going to be no regulations if they had their way, it seems.

5:17:57 – 5:18:29Speaker 24

I mean, God forbid, don't get a vaccine anymore. You might get the measles. So I'm just saying we're at a point where you cannot trust government from all the way, and it's being conflicted between county, state, and federal converging on locals. And I feel sorry for every local government in the state of Florida, or anywhere now in the country, because it's being overtaken. And it's wrong. Because then the citizens, we might as well just be sheep and walk away.

5:18:29Speaker 1

Thank you. Thank you all. So Mr. Albertalli, come on up. Know

5:18:38Speaker 11

Can I have something?

5:18:39Speaker 1

Sure. You've heard from Mr. Zadikov. He I says

5:18:43Speaker 5

have something for everyone.

5:18:45Speaker 1

SPEAKER on. He says, we should all say, hallelujah, there is no health impact. That's what he says.

5:18:52Speaker 11

How does that sound? Does that sound real

5:18:53Speaker 1

I'm just saying, in terms of the signal, let's take that for what it is. This is a report that

5:19:00 – 5:19:38Speaker 1

And then I'm just saying the attorney spelled out the legal framework. And so as Commissioner Hernandez said, the purpose of this and this entire exercise since you guys have come to us has been us really asking, imploring the staff, them spending hours trying to figure things out after the fact. Maybe there could have been things before the permit that we could have been a little more strict with. Maybe they could have been shown Crown Castle, hey, go by the school. Maybe at that point, it would have been doable and they would have been willing. It's just that we can't reverse the clock. And so I feel still like possible. And so tell us, tell us. JAMES You or me.

5:19:38 – 5:19:59Speaker 40

JAMES Well, I just wanted to clarify that we got some questions asked, but we never really got full answers on important things like the permit. The permit was issued 03/18/2024. The poll went into the ground July 15.

5:20:02Speaker 11

That's April. So that's past a year.

5:20:05Speaker 40

So we those dates. Now we have them today. Can we get an answer today? Because we walk away, we send emails, emails are ignored. And I mean, we can just I'd diffuse that

5:20:15 – 5:20:26Speaker 1

answer. Like Gary answer that question because he did answer it. And I just would like you guys to hear it straight from him, not with me misinterpreting what he said or communicating it secondhand.

5:20:26Speaker 14

So I don't know if they started any construction within that year. The statute requires Assuming

5:20:32Speaker 1

they did not.

5:20:32 – 5:20:44Speaker 14

Okay. Assuming they did not, yes, they probably didn't work under an expired permit. But if again, the permits extend because DELL: of declared states of emergency.

5:20:45Speaker 1

And so I don't know how long those And if there was not an extended emergency, and if they did the work under the permit the city inspected later? I mean, what is the estoppel issue that you raised?

5:20:55 – 5:21:33Speaker 14

GREGORY Apparently, if that's your normal course with respect to all building permits, not just this one, but if your staff and the city's normal course of procedure is to allow them to continue to construct and not request extensions, they follow The their normal estoppel argument goes basically something like this. If the applicant did nothing wrong, didn't commit fraud, didn't misrepresent anything, didn't construct something that wasn't approved in the permit, then they're entitled to rely on that permit unless you stop them. And so they relied on that permit.

5:21:34 – 5:21:46Speaker 1

And after the fact, if we've let them out in the open constructed, the estoppel would mean that we can't go to them then and say they would argue, hey, you're stopped from asking me to do what you're

5:21:46 – 5:22:28Speaker 14

telling From revoking the permit and requiring that they remove the tower. The few times that I've seen that occur where it was upheld by a court and that doesn't occur very often but the few times that that did occur where it was done and where the revocation of the permit and the removal of the tower was upheld by the court is when it was a blatant mistake by staff, where someone with absolutely no authority stamped a permit, didn't do any reviews whatsoever, or where the wrong jurisdiction approved the permit. For example, a county approved the permit, it was really within the city. That's been upheld, the city's revocation of the permit in that situation.

5:22:28Speaker 1

CHRISTIAN Commissioner Hernandez?

5:22:29 – 5:22:49Speaker 5

GREGORY Thank you. Gary, I have a question. In this particular case, you asked some questions of what's a standard for the department to do. And I'm not going to speak for the department, but I can only talk to you about my experience when I had a permit. They notify us and says your permit is about to expire because you haven't done such.

5:22:49 – 5:23:09Speaker 5

it was a pull of an inspection or something like that. And Andrea is here, so I'd like to ask what in other words, the Albertalli family deserves answer. And if we have those answers, I'd like to be able to provide those answers here and now. With the permission of the The

5:23:09Speaker 21

executive order finally expired eighttwenty five.

5:23:13Speaker 5

By that time the So bill was already on the

5:23:17Speaker 21

all right of way permits, all building permits are falling under this executive order extension.

5:23:25 – 5:23:41Speaker 5

Is there any requirement from the city to provide any request that it be extended in writing? No. Okay. That was one of the questions that they had and that's if that's your answer, whether it's acceptable to them or not, that's your answer.

5:23:41Speaker 21

The city has not for any burnt building permits or right of way permits. And the chief building official or someone else can expand on that if need be, but the answer is no.

5:23:50Speaker 5

Okay. Gary, do you have any answers regarding no. Okay, that's what it is. Chris?

5:23:58Speaker 11

We checked with all the other cities, and they all said, yeah, they expire after one hundred and eighty days. They also said, we would request in writing that they ask for extensions.

5:24:08Speaker 5

this is what our staff is

5:24:11Speaker 5

Number one, that the permit is good for one year, not one hundred and eighty days.

5:24:14Speaker 1

Still expired

5:24:16Speaker 11

by the it's four eighty six days after the issue.

5:24:20Speaker 5

Look, if you don't want to accept the answers, I understand. But if you come back to me and say no because you say no

5:24:25Speaker 11

We're doing math. We're doing math.

5:24:27Speaker 5

Our staff said that because of the state of the executive orders, those permits were extended.

5:24:35 – 5:24:49Speaker 40

We were also told that if work did, I'm sorry, just by research, and not all research is true, but that if nothing was commenced, then you can't get a toll on something. You can't toll something that never started. But were you

5:24:49Speaker 1

told is why? This is just research.

5:24:51 – 5:25:09Speaker 40

This is everyday JULIET research, looking on the internet, calling other cities. I printed out a map of Broward County. I called every city and asked these questions. I just, you know, and I don't know who to trust, who to rely on. We're just telling you what we've learned.

5:25:09Speaker 5

And I appreciate that. We're just asking questions of our staff.

5:25:13 – 5:25:32Speaker 5

And we're providing you those answers. Correct. From a commission, neither the mayor or myself, any one of us as a commission can dictate to staff what they have to do. The only thing we can do is approach the city manager and say, look, we need answers to this. He has opened up the staff to answer those questions.

5:25:32 – 5:26:15Speaker 5

They're saying no. And they're saying no based on the executive order or the governor that automatically extend those permits. Now I can tell you, I go farther at this point that some of those issues are being debated at the Florida League of Cities level because we don't like having carte blanche because what's happening is development that it's taking place in areas that have not been suffered a hurricane, whenever the state of emergency gets placed, they're still allowed to do certain things even where they don't require permits and they're not affected by it. So we're trying to fight some of these preemptions. But what I'm trying to tell you is, it's not fair.

5:26:16Speaker 5

It's not fair to us. It's not fair to the residents that are being affected by this. But that doesn't make it that we can do anything about it at this point.

5:26:24Speaker 11

Those extensions are primarily for roofing when you have an emergency that affects homes and

5:26:29Speaker 1

No, sir. Blanket all development orders. Blanket all development orders.

5:26:34Speaker 11

Non expired permits that are requested in writing for extension.

5:26:37Speaker 1

Let's have Gary give us the legal advice.

5:26:40Speaker 11

Can we just rebut for the GM Selby report real quick? And then you guys can

5:26:43 – 5:26:55Speaker 1

answer Let's put to bed the permit extension issue because we don't I mean, we want to be clarity. Gary, back on the permit extension, and and I want this to be clear.

5:26:57Speaker 14

Not sure exactly what you're asking me.

5:26:58 – 5:27:11Speaker 1

I mean, really, honestly, it's repeat what you said before in some ways. But mister Kelly is adamant that the that we have a legal ground to revoke the permit after the fact Let's say there wasn't any after the fact.

5:27:11 – 5:27:37Speaker 14

That the permit expired when it expired. But they built it NEA. And your staff signed off on it, closed out the permit. They still have the estoppel argument. Now, that doesn't mean you can't challenge it and go to court and say, we want to revoke the permit, and we're asking for the court to bless our decision to revoke the permit. You can go to court on any issue you want. I'm not sure you would win, but you can certainly go to court.

5:27:37 – 5:28:20Speaker 5

Actually, would probably lose based on the fact that the city department actually extends permits all the time. Would say how many permits have you extended in so many in this year and that would be a problem. I don't have a problem fighting where we have the ability to win. But when we know that we have a losing battle because if nine out of 10 permits are extended because somebody says, I'm sorry, haven't been able to do this. Can I have another six months? And I'd like to ask Andrea questions regarding that or Russell if he's available to answer those questions. How many times do you deny an extension on a potentially coming up on an expired permit?

5:28:21Speaker 14

Can I answer that? With respect to this particular application, there would be no basis to deny it.

5:28:28Speaker 14

I mean, it's complying with your ordinance. It's complied with your staff determined that it complied with your code. It complies with the Florida statute. Under Florida law, there's a limited number of

5:28:37Speaker 5

reasons to deny.

5:28:40Speaker 14

The fact that they didn't do the construction during the time of the permit is not a basis for a reason to deny a subsequent application to continue the permit.

5:28:49Speaker 5

Okay. So the short answer that Andrea gave was no.

5:28:51Speaker 14

They'd be in the same position.

5:28:53Speaker 5

Okay. Thank you. So I know you don't like the answer, but we're trying to get to the bottom of what

5:29:00Speaker 14

I'm surprising you as to what the law provides. And again, it goes back to the preemption issue.

5:29:03Speaker 5

DANIEL Thank you.

5:29:04Speaker 11

MARTINEZ: Mayor?

5:29:06Speaker 23

DANIEL If Mr. Resnick is finished on this particular question there, our building official can provide you some information as well.

5:29:12Speaker 5

Yes. I mean, I think we've I

5:29:14Speaker 1

think we've kind of resolved the permit. Well,

5:29:17Speaker 23

We're gonna be open as possible.

5:29:18Speaker 1

Go ahead. Ahead. Go ahead.

5:29:21Speaker 23

Anything's being kept.

5:29:22Speaker 5

Go ahead, Russ.

5:29:27 – 5:29:57Speaker 44

Well, commissioners and mayor commissioners. Russell Long, City Hollywood Building Official. I just wanted to state that for permits, we were under a state of emergency from the governor. It was for Hurricane Ian, not Milton. It was Hurricane Eaton. Eaton? Ian. Ian. And it was from September it was issued on 09/23/2002. And like Andrea stated, we had many, many extensions of that.

5:29:57 – 5:30:40Speaker 44

The governor finally let it expire on eighttwelvetwenty five. The applicant then has, like you said, ninety days to extend that for the full it's two years now, for a full two years to extend it. But in this case, even if they have any approval, which they did, the same month that this expired, they had ninety days, they had inspections that did pass. So they have one hundred and eighty days after that. So in my mind, and as per Bora, letters that I got from Bora as well, permits can't expire.

5:30:41Speaker 44

And I stand by that this permit was not expired.

5:30:44Speaker 1

Okay. You feel like it was extended through the executive order and then work had begun before the next expiration? Correct. Okay.

5:30:54Speaker 1

All right. Mr. And Mrs. Albertalli, did you want to talk about the Selby analysis? I'm sorry, the queue. Commissioner Biederman, go ahead.

5:31:05Speaker 16

So I appreciate you being here and the handout that you gave us. Do you have that in digital form?

5:31:12Speaker 11

I can provide that.

5:31:14Speaker 16

send that to us?

5:31:16Speaker 11

Yes. We have to get permission MACHT: to share that.

5:31:19Speaker 1

It's a confidential document. And it rebuts everything that he has in his report page by page, letter by letter. It showed some huge discrepancies. All right.

5:31:27 – 5:31:39Speaker 16

I didn't see that in there. And that's why I wanted to see it. But it needs to be provided. DELL: If you're giving it to us, it becomes public record immediately. So if it's a confidential report, it's no longer confidential now that it's on

5:31:39Speaker 1

the dais. So I would like a copy It's for circuit. So we will

5:31:43 – 5:32:01Speaker 16

get That was permission. Public record at this point. But I would like to hear the comparison side by side with that by the gentleman from GM Selby to have a better understanding because I'm not an expert.

5:32:01Speaker 11

Yeah, he needs to know.

5:32:03 – 5:32:22Speaker 16

know that anybody up here is an expert except maybe Commissioner Xuan because she's a civil engineer. But I would like to hear the experts' opinion on side by side because I just saw a reiteration of what I saw in the GM Selby report. I didn't see a

5:32:22Speaker 11

Breaks it down.

5:32:23Speaker 16

An opposition or a challenge of it.

5:32:25Speaker 40

JAMES Oh, there's opposition. Absolutely. Big

5:32:28Speaker 5

time. Amanda?

5:32:30 – 5:33:09Speaker 40

JAMES I just wanted to clarify. If we rewound this and go back I already forgot his name. And it doesn't matter. He clearly stated that the FCC was updated in 2020. That's a lie, complete lie. It was 1996 and it was reaffirmed in 2019. There's been no updates since 1996. So that was incorrect information. Also he had mentioned it could be something else in our home. Nothing changed but the pole arriving.

5:33:09 – 5:33:47Speaker 40

And I've clearly stated that in numerous emails to you that we have Wi Fi. It is wired. We didn't get any more phones. Nothing changed other than the pole arriving on the swale of our property. I actually had just had my annual done and I was cleared of no medical problems whatsoever. Nothing. Nothing that could align with the symptoms that I got once the poll was activated. I have medical records of that, that nothing was found. Very thorough exam. My nine year old, her birthday is in September.

5:33:47 – 5:34:07Speaker 40

She just had her annual done as well a week before she started to get sick when it was activated. So there is record that there was absolutely nothing wrong with us before. When the poll was activated, that's when it started. And most recently well, I'll get to that. But we did.

5:34:07 – 5:34:48Speaker 40

We did everything. We did MRIs. We did EEGs. We did blood work. Everything that you could poke and prod on me and do, my PCP said, this is, I work at the medical examiner's office and when someone has a manner of death that is accidental drowning, you don't say someone drowned because you found their body in water. It's a diagnosis of exclusion. You have to exclude everything else before you can say that this is a drowning. And that's exactly what my doctor, how they approached it. Diagnosis of exclusion. We excluded everything else.

5:34:48 – 5:34:59Speaker 40

All fingers pointed back to the five gs poll. So it's clear as day that I became sick because of the RFEMF. No question in my mind or my PCP.

5:35:02 – 5:35:43Speaker 40

And now I know it's pointed right at me thanks to their report. And you know, men are sometimes hard headed and he won't go to the doctor as much as I was and I thought it was important to document it. He's been dealing, you know, we are all agreeing that tissue heating is a thing. That's accepted. Well, it's happening to him. He has this crazy skin thing going on that he's under the care of a dermatologist for now and this began when the poll arrived. And our most recent dealings with this is nosebleeds. My husband is suffering from nosebleeds. I've known him for thirty something years. I've never seen that happen and now suddenly it's happening.

5:35:44 – 5:36:04Speaker 40

So no matter what anybody tells us, we live in the house, not me anymore, or my children, but we know what was causing it. And it's undeniable. So he's also saying that there is no studies. There are studies. They may not be accepted in The US, but they exist.

5:36:04 – 5:36:45Speaker 40

You just have to look for them. So to say that they don't exist is also incorrect information, I think. Oh, and also to go on when he said, I'm sorry, the meter that we bought, the readings are the same inside the house as outside the house. You can walk around, you can test it. And he was saying that it would be less inside the house, but that's not true either. We even know that with the Faraday curtains that we hung. Right. Maybe if you're wrapped up in a Faraday curtain, but other than that, no. Do you want me to read this?

5:36:45Speaker 11

Yes. May she just quote one thing from this report that we brought?

5:36:49 – 5:37:31Speaker 40

And just to go back to you so it doesn't look like the same exact report that it is showing discrepancies there. Number one on page seven, RF Engineering and Analysis Executive Overview. The GM Selby report on the Funston Street small cell site contains multiple methodological errors, inconsistent input assumptions, and physically incompatible exposure calculations. Collectively, these issues materially affect the report's claim that the site is well below FCC public exposure limits. The inconsistencies undermine the report's reliability and any meaningful purpose.

5:37:33 – 5:37:45Speaker 40

And after that, it just breaks down the report that was provided by GM Selby and points out the discrepancies one by one. And there's a summary at the end.

5:37:47 – 5:38:31Speaker 11

So I commissioned this report when you guys provided me with my own copy of GM Selby's report. It took me a month to get this worked up by an independent. So GM Selby is not independent or impartial. He works for telecom. And he just told you that there's only been one time he's ever helped anybody with this harming them. So ideally, in that respect, he's only made this harder for people like me. And his purpose exists only to promote this and also to make sure that they get their permits and that they can move forward. So I do want to point out some of the very simple math that you can see involved here. And we've told you guys all this. So it shouldn't be a surprise to hear it again.

5:38:31 – 5:39:14Speaker 11

The pole is actually measured at 27 feet on the design schematics. Jessica from Crown Castle posts this as 36 feet. So, Okay, there's a big difference. Now, GM Selby also reports that this is 22 feet. So he just showed you on the screen that it's 22 feet. We know that actually 29 feet. I laid on the sidewalk yesterday and I shot a golf rangefinder at it and I got 9.7 yards. So we just do the math. Like I said, we like to do math because math is math and math will always be correct if you use it properly. And we can show with this rebuttal report that math is not being used properly and it's being used against us improperly.

5:39:14 – 5:39:55Speaker 11

Back to the wired option, yes, we do have wired home internet. And we keep our Wi Fi router on the exact opposite of the house. As far away, the closest thing is the back of the kitchen and the laundry room. So our bedrooms could not be further away from our home router. When we're in our bedrooms using our Wi Fi to look at our phones or to use any kind of wireless internet service, we basically have to leave the bedroom to get a better connection to use the device, because it's just not that strong. And we've designed our home with that in mind, because we have small children. I know that you guys can see that we have children. This is a very big concern, right? So I also want to

5:39:55 – 5:40:30Speaker 11

out that the microwave comparison he said that this is like putting something in the microwave for thirty minutes and then staring at it, or maybe take a nap next to the microwave. I haven't microwaved anything for more than two or three minutes in twenty five years. We don't live out of the microwave. We like to cook food with the stove. And we get a lot less radiation that way. But we don't own a leaky microwave. And we never turn the microwave on and then sleep or occupy the nearest space to the microwave for twenty four hours. This is absurd to even claim. Moving on. They only spent forty minutes at our house to get the measurements.

5:40:30 – 5:41:10Speaker 11

I was told by the RF engineers that created this report that a proper measurement would have included a boom to put the measurement tool near the antenna itself. And nobody brought a boom. They stood on the ground. They walked around with a meter that only costs $100 more than the one I have. So it's a very, very low quality report. It's also a form letter. Everything that we found in there has been just our information plugged in and they made some mistakes by not erasing the form and starting from scratch. Again, with the measurement being incorrect, this is just filled in bull crap. And I have to say that word. Back to the 1996 standards, we've come a long way.

5:41:10 – 5:41:26Speaker 11

And nothing is the same as 1996. We need better standards now. Again, he made his report to support telecom and the people that have an expired permit by four eighty six days after the permit was issued. Okay, guys?

5:41:27Speaker 1

Thank you. City attorney.

5:41:33Speaker 23

can we allow Mr. Zadikoff to respond since he's been accused on the public record?

5:41:39Speaker 1

Okay. He hasn't had a chance to review this, but in any case.

5:41:44 – 5:41:57Speaker 12

No, don't. And I don't think I need one. I don't believe they are RF engineers. I don't think they understand RF engineering. I don't think they understand anything about it. So to comment negatively about what I've done properly

5:41:57Speaker 1

Do you know a Kyle Kitchens, Spectrum Cellular Management?

5:42:02Speaker 1

Kyle Kitchens.

5:42:03Speaker 12

GREGORY I've heard of him.

5:42:04Speaker 1

GREGORY Yeah, that's apparently where this is from.

5:42:06 – 5:42:39Speaker 12

GREGORY Okay. Wonderful. I mean, the reality is, again, they talk about height variations. Yeah, I know. I measured. There is an antenna, by the way, at 22 feet. The whole pole is higher than that. But it doesn't matter, as I mentioned. We are so far below any standards that are allowable, but so far, not even close, that none of this matters. None of the nonsense they were talking about matters because it's so far below. And now, one case now that done many You're saying

5:42:39Speaker 1

that you're driving themselves berserk about something that really is not a threat.

5:42:43 – 5:43:21Speaker 12

Listen, I don't know. They might actually have these effects. I don't know why, but they might. I don't know. I'm not a doctor, as I said. However, also just accusing me of one case. I've done many cases supporting actually, I represented Hollywood against Broward County for a telecom issue. So where I supported the community on behalf of Hollywood against Broward County. So I don't do this because I'm a telecom guy. I actually a lot of my work isn't even telecoms. I'm an engineer. Telecoms is just one of the engineering branches.

5:43:21Speaker 1

We have some commissioners who have some questions. Maybe it's to you, maybe it's to others. Commissioner Gruber.

5:43:28 – 5:43:52Speaker 3

No, my question isn't for you, but you can stay up for the next person. You know, I just, you know, some people have questioned about compassion. I think it should I think we're all united up here and we feel for your family and we're doing everything we can to help. Just the fact that there's 40 staff members and an entire commission here that we probably could have gotten out of here at 05:00 and we're staying to talk it out and we're we're trying to help you through

5:43:52 – 5:44:26Speaker 3

We feel for you. But I feel like we're going in circles. I feel some closure coming right now. But there's one thing I think we can put to bed. I don't want to beat a dead horse. But because I saw, Chris, you shaking when it came to saying that the permit wasn't expired. And the explanation to the permit not being expired, the executive order from the governor, someone correct me if I'm wrong, extends permits that people don't have to do anything in writing. I forget the amount of time that they have to do it. All Russell, if you if you can chime in. That that That extends those permits.

5:44:26 – 5:45:09Speaker 3

So under that executive order, when there's a state of emergency, I think it's for the whole state, those permits, not just that permit, but any building permit, is extended. And from my understanding, you don't have to do anything in writing. Is that correct, Russell? So I'm just saying, so at least we, there's a few Hang There's a few moving parts to this. I think we can possibly put the permit issue to bed with the factual information that's on there with regards to an executive order for construction permits so we can focus on the health of your family and doing something else. I think that's all I want to put out there. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's all I have.

5:45:09Speaker 1

Vice Mayor Caleri.

5:45:11 – 5:45:47Speaker 8

You can have a seat if you want. You can have a seat for right now. I'm not going ask you any question. So as Commissioner Hernandez says, the devil's advocate, right? Mr. And Mrs. Albertalli and the girls, listen, we've heard, we've read your numerous lengthy, compassionate emails repetitively. We understand your concerns. We hear them. Where I have, I guess concerns is it doesn't seem that there is nothing as amicable in your book right now.

5:45:47 – 5:46:29Speaker 8

You want that tower down. We can't take it down. So where do you go from here? But as much as Mrs. Albertalli works for our medical examiner's offices and used certain scenarios about a drowning and how you have to rule out eliminations, I'm going to put on my nursing hat for a minute, right? And I'm also going to put on my emotional hat for a minute. We are all human beings. And I know from years, and just my personal experience, our minds sometimes take control. So just listening to you being here, and just being the devil. And I'm not saying I'm not accusing.

5:46:30 – 5:47:13Speaker 8

Just listening, stress. Stress causes rashes, causes irritants. Maybe it wasn't happening, maybe because the tower was being built. I'm just giving an example of the other side, right? So how do we get to the middle? Stress causes rashes. The curtains that were placed. If you research it, again, relying on Google and today we had obviously differences of opinions as well. But just doing my research, making sure it was right. You use those curtains, it causes cell phones, all of the other things to have to work harder.

5:47:14 – 5:47:29Speaker 8

And it simply states here, causes headaches, causes sleep, all of these. Even though the curtains don't cause it, because of the push of electronics, cause I'm not asking for you to respond yet. I'm not asking for you to respond.

5:47:29Speaker 1

Oh wait, Chris, please have a seat.

5:47:30 – 5:48:04Speaker 8

You can have a seat, Chris. So what I'm trying to explain is there's always two sides. And how do we get to the how do we move forward? I will tell you, being a commissioner for fourteen years, there has never been a time where the commission has invested so much time to try to figure out a solution. And unfortunately, we are by state and federal preempted.

5:48:05 – 5:48:24Speaker 8

We are limited on what we can do. But what I'm saying also is, you go down a rabbit hole sometimes. And I'm not in your shoes. And I don't know exactly what you guys are going through. But sometimes when you do too much, it makes it that much worse.

5:48:26 – 5:49:04Speaker 8

I don't know the answer except for we, as a commission and staff, have really gone the extra mile to try to figure out a solution. And it keeps leading back to we are extremely, almost 100% limited on what to do. After listening to the expert in this field, and then the comparisons, there's a little bit more work to do. You're not gonna have a solution or answer today. And you may not have it in three weeks.

5:49:04 – 5:49:34Speaker 8

You may not have it in a month. But to continue, I heard Mrs. Albertalli say that you have relocated to an area so that your children are safer. Okay? That's what I would do as a parent as well. That's what I would do as a parent as well, until a solution comes about or you figure out where to go. But at this moment, Mr. Albertalli, I can't go back and forth with you. I asked you just wait. You can come back up and you can comment.

5:49:34 – 5:50:02Speaker 8

You can send me to hell if you want afterwards. But I have to be open and honest and speak to you and say that everything you guys are saying we have heard, we've heard To the point where you even sent a letter, begging a school board member to try to light a finder under my tushkiss to do something. We're limited. You can ask everyone. Now today we came up with we can reach our congresswoman.

5:50:02 – 5:50:31Speaker 8

We are going to I can guarantee you, we are going to reach out to the congresswoman to see if there's something done. We're going to spend extra money now for our attorney who's outside counsel to come up with plans. But at some point, what's happening right now is challenging. There's a lot of other projects and issues in our city that we have not focused this much time or effort or money on. That are just as pressing, if not more.

5:50:32 – 5:51:14Speaker 8

And we as government, have to not just address your situation, but address everyone's. And we're trying to do that. But I will tell you, Mr. Albertalli, personally, you scare me. Because you're so aggressive and compassionate and there's nothing wrong with that. But at some point, I fear you're going to break. And that bothers me. That scares me and it concerns me. Not only for the commission, for yourself and for your family. So, what I'm trying to say is, let us continue to work.

5:51:14 – 5:51:31Speaker 8

Try to come up with the best scenario that we possibly can provide you with. We're not lying to you. We're not trying to kick the can under the carpet. We're not trying to just dismiss you. Because this would not be happening tonight, and this would not be happening at all.

5:51:31 – 5:52:00Speaker 8

And you deserve credit, because you've been that squeaky wheel. And I encourage all of my residents to be that squeaky wheel. But the way going, that you guys aren't happy with the answers, but we're not happy to provide you these answers, but we're kind of stuck. And we can all I think agree that that's where we're at. So I don't have an answer or a solution for you.

5:52:00 – 5:52:20Speaker 8

And that sucks. Because I would love to say, you know what, we're gonna take that tower down. We're gonna prevent any of these issues that are happening from going forward. But when I do my research also, I as a person wanna say, guys, don't go so far down that rabbit hole. Let's work and address it.

5:52:21 – 5:53:06Speaker 8

And let's make sure you guys are, you guys as a unit, and as safety mentally and everything, are taken care of as well. Because, it's not gonna, I don't believe from everything that's being presented, that it's gonna be the perfect solution that you want. And that concerns me. It concerns me greatly. And I'm putting that on the record because I am only concerned for your well-being as well as ours and as well as the city. We cannot continue to just spend money and come up with the same solution. Which is the tower seems like it's going to stay. We asked, maybe it can be pivoted. We asked to get, we're gonna ask for our congresswoman to get inside. We asked our expert here to look at your report.

5:53:06 – 5:53:18Speaker 8

And then we need to be a little bit more patient and try to see if we can come up with a better solution. You're not falling on deaf ears. This would not be happening tonight. But you guys got to also work with us. That's all I have.

5:53:24 – 5:53:46Speaker 11

We wouldn't do that. Care about you guys just as much as you're claiming to care about us. And we truly do believe that you care. And we know that this has gone way too far because when we came to you in July and we had an emergency situation, we're now in March, guys. The time was then to do something and act.

5:53:46 – 5:54:24Speaker 11

And what I believe Gary had mentioned was that you did have the opportunity. And nobody's owned up to the fact that you guys skipped the fourteen day shot clock and just said, good luck Albertalli's. So you guys did not take the initiative to look at the permit at the time when you did have actionable recourse during the permit window. The fourteen day shot clock allows you to pick or work with them and then have that ninety day option to discuss alternatives. We have three alternatives nearby the house. And without those being there, you guys would have a little bit better ground to stand on to avoid the options.

5:54:25Speaker 1

We're amenable to relocating during that shot clock time period that Gary described. Unfortunately, that didn't happen. And we can't reverse time.

5:54:37Speaker 8

we're trying to move from here.

5:54:38 – 5:54:50Speaker 1

Gotcha. Thank you. I mean, maybe they did screw up, in a way to say it. Maybe they didn't realize the opportunity that they could have asked for relocation, maybe it would have been more doable. I don't know. We'll never know.

5:54:50 – 5:55:28Speaker 11

So Tracy had mentioned that the stress is causing this problem for me and this and that. Yeah, of course, we're definitely stressed out about this. But what happened was my wife has extreme symptoms. My oldest daughter has extreme symptoms. Me and the youngest daughter don't have the extreme symptomatic, but we do have symptoms. As soon as she took them away from the house and became steady at this other place, all of their symptoms went away. I only recur on being symptomatic because I'm spending time at the home. We're not going to abandon our home while we wait on you guys to make a responsible decision. The time has come. So you guys got to do something.

5:55:28Speaker 1

I'm sorry. We can't hear the phrase waiting on you guys to make a responsible decision. Not anymore. I mean, we have an expert opinion here that tells

5:55:35Speaker 11

us that And we have an expert opinion. We paid money for this.

5:55:39Speaker 1

We don't believe there's any other recourse. And that's what I wanted to ask the city attorney. City attorney

5:55:43Speaker 11

And you have not produced the standard operating procedure in writing about how these permits would be extended. We want to see all of it

5:55:49Speaker 5

That's not to this Mayor, can I weigh in for a moment?

5:55:53 – 5:56:05Speaker 5

One of the things that we're being accused is that we lost the two week shot clock. And that is because the emails that you were sending, you were not sending it to us.

5:56:05Speaker 11

No, this is during the permit

5:56:06 – 5:56:26Speaker 5

being I understand. But you tried to reach out to us for a couple weeks regarding what was happening. And it wasn't until you got the new horizon that you saw my phone number that you call and realize that the emails were going somewhere because it didn't have the FL behind it. So I don't know if that's a shot clock that you

5:56:26Speaker 11

No, that's not the reference to the shot clock.

5:56:28Speaker 5

Okay, So I'm just saying there was

5:56:30Speaker 40

I thought it was just a poll.

5:56:32 – 5:56:55Speaker 5

Okay. Well, that was two weeks worth of time that we lost. So other than that, I do not know which shot clock you're talking about. When the permit was applied for, I don't know and Gary's here and staff is here, if there's any requirements for us to notify the person next to the resident next to where the poll is going.

5:56:55Speaker 11

We know that there is no requirement. It's just decency.

5:56:59Speaker 5

Okay, now, I get it. We're not going to be able to answer you unless we say, go knock down that poll tomorrow. And I don't believe that we have that authority.

5:57:09Speaker 11

It's a $34,000 poll versus my $430,000 house. I mean, when something is I get

5:57:17 – 5:57:38Speaker 8

Goes into litigation. The best recourse you have then is to sue the city, because we cannot continue to expend and waste our time. I mean, is the only thing I can say. That way, it will give you clarity, and then it will be rectified. Otherwise, we are trying our best up here, sir. And your comments are very inappropriate. Seems as

5:57:38Speaker 11

if apologize, Tracy. You're

5:57:39 – 5:58:03Speaker 8

No, it's not right. And being a man of faith that you state, you're saying, oh, you seem as if you're are Mr. Albertalli It's Okay. The next thing I would say is, then we are not meeting your expectation. We have gotten advice from our experts that we have paid money, taxpayers dollars for. So maybe perhaps the next step would be for you to seek legal action against the city We

5:58:04Speaker 8

have it situated.

5:58:05 – 5:58:32Speaker 11

We have tried. There are no attorneys who are willing to take a case that deals with this preemption in Florida. Now, guys were able to permit this. Got it. You guys were able to determine that this was a permitted thing for approval for them to put this next door home. And you created this situation through the permitting with Crown Castle. Yeah. Correct. Again, but that leaves us no options other than to work with you.

5:58:32Speaker 1

Juham did propose an opportunity to maybe look at changing the direction of field. But that won't be satisfactory to you.

5:58:41 – 5:59:07Speaker 11

It just won't won't right? JOSHUA No. Just won't fix the property value things that are very concerning for every resident. And it probably won't eliminate the signal on the property. And we have in this report that you have in front of you, it shows that there is exceeded levels of the FCC permissible RF exposure. And it is on my side of the property line.

5:59:07Speaker 1

That give you a cause of action under FCC rules?

5:59:09Speaker 11

I believe it gives us a cause of action. I'm not going go into that detail right now.

5:59:12 – 5:59:23Speaker 1

GREGORY So as Commissioner Cleary rightly pointed out, maybe that you need to seek legal recourse toward Crown Castle. And if you want to work the city into that, then that might be what

5:59:23Speaker 11

you're Again, we just wanted you guys to help us.

5:59:26Speaker 1

I think we've tried. And we're being told there's nothing we can do. I mean, that's just in black and white. George?

5:59:31 – 5:59:55Speaker 23

JEFFREY BROWN: If I may, because obviously, we can continue in this fashion all night. It's not going to So accomplish what can we do moving forward now? I've heard two or three things that we can do moving forward now. We will, formally in writing, request Crown Castle again to relocate the antenna. We've done that previously.

5:59:55 – 6:00:20Speaker 23

They've said no, but we will ask them again. We will formally request in writing that they redirect the 120 degree of signal projection and see if they will do that. They haven't said no to that before, to my knowledge. We'll ask them again. If they will do that and if that will provide any relief or difference, allow us the opportunity to do that.

6:00:21 – 6:00:43Speaker 23

We've also heard contention about how it's reduced the value of the property. We will ask our real estate experts if that is the case or if they can quantify that in any fashion to give you some feedback on that issue as well, too. And beyond that, as you indicated before, the Albertallis have the ability to seek legal action against the city if they're unsatisfied.

6:00:45Speaker 1

Commissioner Schuham?

6:00:46 – 6:00:59Speaker 2

The only other thing, George, that I would like if possible, if we get a copy of the report from their expert, I would like to give our expert the opportunity to open

6:00:59Speaker 23

it up. Absolutely, including we put everything out on the table, the source and the source's credibility as well, too, since ours has been criticized.

6:01:07 – 6:01:30Speaker 1

And I think it will be helpful to provide the report to Crown Castle. If the report demonstrates that the signal exceeds limits, like you said, or Gary said, or someone said, there have been many canceled many canceled antennas. Well, I wish that that is the case if they were to see those numbers and validate them and decide for themselves. That's what they need to do. So,

6:01:31Speaker 5

yeah. City manager, I think that the keyword that you said was request.

6:01:37Speaker 23

Request. We cannot mandate or compel or we can't lean on them. No. This has been suggested.

6:01:42 – 6:02:22Speaker 5

Okay. And our attorney, our consultant, has also said that this is the best that we can do because of the other preemptions that we have, that the FCC is the one that controls the signal, the RF, and the state is the one that mandates whether they can or cannot put that there. The argument that continues to have, from what I can see, as you know, I'm just a truck driver and I'm not very smart, is regarding the permit issue. And I believe we need to, our staff need to put that in writing as to the steps they see as to why that permit was still valid at the time of the installation.

6:02:22Speaker 23

I'd be happy to have them put in writing, but they put it verbally on the record, both the carbon director and the

6:02:27Speaker 14

building officials I verbally on the record here.

6:02:30 – 6:02:57Speaker 19

GREGORY do have to say, I'm a little concerned about that, as the Albertallis have indicated that they have sought the advice of an attorney to sue the city. I don't want to create documents that may be used against us in some way. The answers have been given on the record. So I have concerns about creating other records that may or may not be used against us?

6:02:57Speaker 11

If the permit extension issues are lawful, then you should have no I'm sorry.

6:03:02Speaker 23

And they've already stated that on the record now, Okay? Yep. Enough with that.

6:03:06 – 6:03:22Speaker 1

The city's opinion that there are no issues with the permit extension, given GENSLER: the description. It's just the city's that's just what they were saying. PROVE it. Not only the city, but also our attorney, Gary. But nonetheless, before we go back and forth to this, this has been

6:03:22Speaker 36

amicable. I'm talking

6:03:22Speaker 11

about guys, you guys

6:03:24Speaker 14

get rid of the problem.

6:03:25 – 6:03:45Speaker 5

No, no. This has all been an amicable process. We don't need to get adversarial. At the end of the day, I don't know what else you expect us to do. If you can tell us and we can do it, we'll probably be more than happy to. But if you can tell us and we cannot do it, the answer is going to be we can't do it. So what is it that you would like for us to do?

6:03:45 – 6:04:05Speaker 11

Against what Damaris just said, just provide us the procedure and relevant documentation that shows that when a permit is expired, it's automatically granted into the future for SOE situation, or specifically for Ian, and specifically for this permit that was expired?

6:04:05Speaker 1

If you just transcribe what Russell said into the record, that's the answer.

6:04:08Speaker 23

JAMES And we'll provide the supporting documentation.

6:04:11Speaker 1

JAMES And the minutes, the video of the meeting. Yeah, you.

6:04:14Speaker 5

Okay. JAMES And

6:04:16Speaker 40

we had asked these questions in emails and didn't get the answers.

6:04:19Speaker 14

I know. JAMES it's because

6:04:21Speaker 40

the emails were just ignored.

6:04:23Speaker 5

And that's the reason why I wanted to make sure that the staff answered what they did. Right. Thank you, Peter.

6:04:27Speaker 40

No, we thank you. But we did ask privately an email Believe before

6:04:32 – 6:04:45Speaker 5

me, I've read, it took me forty five minutes to read one of your nine page emails and I've been reading emails ever since. So, when we say that we spent time, quite a bit of time in this, we have.

6:04:45Speaker 40

Okay, I shouldn't say ignored then, just we didn't get the response with the answer.

6:04:48 – 6:05:05Speaker 5

JULIE Thank you. That's the difference because sometimes I cannot provide those answers, that staff that provides the answer. They have been providing the answer. And even today, when they provide the answer, we still want more. We'll provide you whatever it is that we've got to be able to do that we can able to do. And we'll bring that to you.

6:05:05Speaker 40

MICHAEL All right.

6:05:06 – 6:05:28Speaker 11

Thank you all. We apologize for keeping everyone so And we really do appreciate any of the good efforts that have been applied. We really do. And we know this is only going to lead to better things for other people. And I think that we should have that invisible guarantee between all of us that this can't happen on a regular basis and for just some accidental oversight.

6:05:28Speaker 1

I really hope that you take your passion and your issues to Tallahassee. Try to have

6:05:35Speaker 8

And to the federal government.

6:05:36 – 6:05:53Speaker 1

And to the FCC and speak to them about your situation and try to make a change, not abandoning it. But your energy there is where it could be most effective to empower cities to have more power to say, not in residential areas, if that's what the solution is.

6:05:54Speaker 11

And we're not at our breaking point. We were broken a long time ago with this. We're here in pieces, just like I said, begging for mercy. Thank you, guys.

6:06:01Speaker 1

JOSEPH Commissioner Quintana wants to say some words.

6:06:05 – 6:06:47Speaker 22

JOSEPH I'm so sorry. I know we've been going on this a long time. Not as a commissioner, but just as a person, a human being looking at you, I'm seeing how much time, energy you're expending on this, much more than what we have already here. I just think that your frustration is so misdirected. And I think Annie actually had a good suggestion about, you know, if there's a national community of people that feel as you do, and you can connect to that group, and then go to the source who can actually make a difference.

6:06:47 – 6:07:28Speaker 22

Because I don't know how else we can tell you that at this level, we're not the ones who can make the change. We can help advocate for you. So for you to spend this much time attacking this body for not being responsive to you, you're kind of misdirecting that to where it really could make a difference. And so I would just say, for your well-being, what Commissioner Kalari said, you did the right thing to get yourself and your children out of the house, first and foremost, your family's safety above and beyond everything else, first and foremost. And then seeking justice with the right body, with the ones who can make the difference.

6:07:28Speaker 22

It's not at this level. So I hear your anger. I hear your frustration. It's misdirected right now. Put it where it needs to be.

6:07:36Speaker 40

We have fired away at them, and they always tell us to come back to you. You just from multiple keep

6:07:41Speaker 1

telling us to come back to you.

6:07:43Speaker 22

Entities that it's the Federal Communications Committee, right? Commission. So really, that's where you need to go.

6:07:51Speaker 1

If you tell a state representative or whoever agency or the FCC, hey, the city of Hollywood issued a permit, they shouldn't have issued a permit because it expired, if you

6:08:01Speaker 40

tell them that, they will

6:08:03 – 6:08:37Speaker 1

say, hey, go to the city. Correct. But if you tell them, your law should not be preempted in cities on the citing of five gs polls, and there should be limitations on where your law prevents cities from regulating, then you're speaking their language and they are accountable to that law because they created it and passed it. Yes. Same with the FCC. If you feel like the thresholds are are a lie or or or expired in themselves, to use the word, then demand a new study by the FCC on on May and testify as to what you guys are feeling.

6:08:37 – 6:08:54Speaker 1

Right now, we're limited by what the FCC has on the books and what the state has on the books. It's not because we don't want to. I would love for this poll to have been removed a long time ago. We all would. Carol, go ahead.

6:08:55Speaker 2

I was just going to say, it's not a one off,

6:08:59Speaker 2

CAROL These are going to be everywhere.

6:09:00Speaker 40

CAROL Everywhere.

6:09:00 – 6:09:22Speaker 2

And so you I want to be very careful how I say this, because I don't want to plant a seed of hope. What I want to say is, let's say the city had $35,000 We tear that sucker down. Then the next house, and the next house, and the next house, we cannot do it. It cannot be done. And so I think that you just have to understand.

6:09:23 – 6:10:01Speaker 2

And I personally am very grateful to the city manager for having, at the city's expense and you made a great point. It's at taxpayers expense, these experts. I think all of us are willing to help in any way in advocacy. But if you keep seeking a $34,000 fix, that's it's not $34,000 It's not. If it was a car that had to be replaced because of something that we screwed up or something like that, even if the permit had been questioned in that window, they'd just get another permit. They don't have to listen to us.

6:10:01Speaker 11

It would allow you to reinitiate that fourteen day shop. And

6:10:05 – 6:10:46Speaker 2

they could have still put it there. So it's all hypothetical. And I just think that you are the ask is impossible because there is another house and another house and another house. We can't stop it. That's what the problem with the preemption is. So it's very hard on all of us. We have come to know and appreciate deeply your family. Some things the city cannot fix. And I deeply appreciate what the city manager is saying. We can certainly ask Crown Council if they can try to adjust it.

6:10:47 – 6:11:04Speaker 2

We can have our expert look at this report and see if maybe there's errors there. We can do those types of things for you. But we cannot take that poll down. And that's what I'm hearing.

6:11:04 – 6:11:23Speaker 23

JAMES Correct. And I do want you to know, we asked at last count, there are 60 some of these five gs antenna operating right now in the city of Hollywood, as they are in other cities all over South Florida, the state, and the nation. They are everywhere, everywhere.

6:11:23Speaker 1

Thank you all.

6:11:24Speaker 20

Thank you, guys.

6:11:30 – 6:11:45Speaker 1

All right. Remaining on our agenda are any comments by the city commission, city attorney, city manager. Let's go ahead down the line. Commissioner Hernandez? Let me light it up. Hold on. Go ahead.

6:11:45 – 6:12:09Speaker 5

Thank you, mayor. One thing that concerns me is and I brought it up to staff the minutes. We did a marathon of approval of minutes today. And if you ask me, I would ask for support so that we have a resolution that no more than four months, one hundred and twenty days before the minutes be approved. And I've talked to staff and they said they can live with that. I need support from that. Support? Okay, thank you.

6:12:10 – 6:12:44Speaker 5

for that to be in a resolution for that to happen. Thank you. Also, small message. And that is the development of Dixie Highway and Washington Street has broken ground. But I want the residents to realize that this is not the same people who purchased the CRA land that was sold for $950,000 and it's being sold right now for $3,900,000 Shame on the CRA and the fact that we under sold that property when we had a lot more money in it.

6:12:44 – 6:13:17Speaker 5

The residents are uphold that this is happening, but I want them to realize that it's not the same developer that is doing the development in the corner of Washington Street and Dixie Highway. I just want people to realize that because they're coming under fire for something that they didn't do. Yet, they're probably in the market to try to buy that other property as well. And they themselves feel that the property is overpriced in comparison to what it was purchased for. And that's all I have

6:13:17Speaker 1

in order to be brief. Thank you. Let's go to Vice Mayor Coleri for any comments.

6:13:23 – 6:13:44Speaker 8

Yes, I agree. I don't know if you needed a second or a third on the minutes, but I'm all on board with that. I did see that, I thought, oh, that's a lot. And to go through them was a lot time consuming. I did speak with the city manager and staff, soon to be city manager, assistant city managers, and attorney, regarding our septic to sewer funds.

6:13:45 – 6:14:20Speaker 8

And while we know right now, as we know, it's very fluid. And I just want to be ahead of the game. And eventually what I was explaining that the county may also preempt us and make us do septic to sewer conversions. And before that gets to that where we have to, perhaps our creative staff can come up with an ILA with the county to be able to pull funds to help cover the costs. So I mentioned it to staff and said, is this something we can look into?

6:14:20 – 6:14:37Speaker 8

There's a way we can do that before it gets to the point where we're forced to do it? Maybe there's a way we can work as a team and be a project with them to show that we can convert our septic to sewer and then other cities could fall suit. But we'd have to form an ILA to get funding for it. Is there anybody's support for that?

6:14:37Speaker 1

I think we should approach them and explain the circumstances and, sure, seek their support, their financial support.

6:14:45Speaker 8

Thank you so much. Commissioner BETTERMANN: One?

6:14:48 – 6:15:14Speaker 16

DELL: I sit on the County Water Advisory Board. I hope we have another appointment coming from the city for the tech side of it, because Jeff is no longer here. And we've had this discussion. And it's been kicked down the road a little bit. But they're going to eventually come up with something to propose to the county commission to adopt.

6:15:14 – 6:15:38Speaker 16

I don't think it's going to be a mandate that overnight we're going to have to create. I think the most talk and Senator Geller is the chair of that board. And the most talk that we've had is what we're already doing as a city, and that's trying to mandate the people that already have the connection in their front and not allowing them to not hook up.

6:15:40Speaker 1

So I gotcha, all right. Let's

6:15:42Speaker 8

The whole thing was to get funding, to try to utilize funding that's available to help us for

6:15:46Speaker 5

the cost. I support For that to come back to us in order to see what we can or cannot do.

6:15:51 – 6:16:10Speaker 8

Okay, perfect. And then, so that's all I have. And just, would like to take a moment to really express my sincere gratitude for the incredible outpouring and compassion, thoughtfulness, and love shown by many to myself and my family during the loss of my mother. Thank you to my colleagues. You guys are amazing.

6:16:10 – 6:16:48Speaker 8

HPD Fire Department, general employees, HR department, city manager's office, and of course the administrative office, our admins. Your kindness, prayers, understanding have meant more to me than words could ever truly express. During this time, I've reflected on how many of us have shared experiences or losses of our mothers. I've had the privilege of meeting Commissioner Hernandez's mother, Commissioner Schuhem's mother, Jackie Levy's mother, and Mayor Levy's mother-in-law. Having known them reminds me just how special these women were and how deeply they are loved.

6:16:48 – 6:17:13Speaker 8

I would also like to extend my deepest condolences to Commissioner Susan Gunsberger's family during this difficult time. Please know that our thoughts and prayers are with you. And while the loss of a mother leaves a space that can never be truly filled, I hold firmly to the faith and the comfort knowing that one day we will meet again. And one of the greatest gifts that any of us are ever given is our moms. Thank you.

6:17:14Speaker 1

Thank you, Vice Mayor Cleary. Commissioner Gruber.

6:17:23 – 6:18:04Speaker 3

Just one thing on a lighter, happy note. I'm saying just for the last few hours, you know. Commissioner Biederman and I went to see in action the Sloan Stevens program that's been at Driftwood. For those of you who don't know, it's a free tennis program for students. It started at Driftwood. And we saw the kids in action. They were having a great time. They had great coaches. And we got some good news from the foundation is they're planning to start this summer at Driftwood, a free summer camp for Hollywood kids. They run a similar program in California and they say they wanted the same model.

6:18:04 – 6:18:43Speaker 3

There'd be swimming, tennis, computers like a full camp and it's gonna be free for the kids. So we're hoping it's gonna happen. We also went with school board member Mara Baumann for this and I think they're Ricky, correct me if I'm wrong, but they're gonna join. It's gonna go through the school board but it's gonna be shared with us. But they already have this school board contract. So hopefully, it goes in our community center as well as different things there. They met last week, and I'm hoping to find out in the next couple days if this is going to happen. If it does, it's going be an amazing opportunity, free camp for kids. So hopefully we'll have some news in the next few days. Nice.

6:18:43Speaker 37

Yep. That's it.

6:18:44 – 6:18:55Speaker 1

That's great. Thank you. Commissioner Biederman. I think we need a shot at Uzo, Tracy. That's a that's a reference to Tracy's mom got rested

6:18:55Speaker 16

Oh, worn out like the rest of you.

6:19:02 – 6:19:26Speaker 16

you to Parks and Rec for bringing to life the Hollywood West concert series. Everybody had a great time. Next concert is going be March 21. Hopefully, we'll have a good publicity and a lot of people show up to enjoy. Then you get public works after the meeting last last meeting and we mentioned the street that needed some repaving.

6:19:26 – 6:19:58Speaker 16

They were out there this week and it was like done in like quickly. I mean, it was a small piece but all the same, thank you Joseph for acting so quickly. Congratulations Hollywood PD as Commissioner Hernandez said earlier. He neglected to say that this shirt is a tribute to Lieutenant JJ Marino. If you want to display your shirt for the I'll do it.

6:19:58 – 6:20:19Speaker 16

So they put a JJ on a shirt for in his memory. And my other question was answered earlier. But thank you very much. And is there anything else? No.

6:20:19Speaker 1

All right. Good night, everybody. Commissioner Quintana.

6:20:25 – 6:21:11Speaker 22

Whoo, it's been a long day. I just want to express deepest gratitude to everyone on the city staff who worked so hard to make the party on the day a successful event. Just outstanding. I think the most amazing thing was to see the collaboration that happened between Hollywood Police Department, the Hollywood Fire Department, they weren't actually jabbing at each other, they were totally working together. Everything that they did, they brought Casey the dog in, the SWAT team, all the business owners and vendors were worried about the SWAT team and whether they were too hot in all the clothes that they all wanted to give them something to drink.

6:21:12 – 6:21:41Speaker 22

I heard from so many people about the great work of our Parks Recreation and Cultural Arts folks and our CEMA department. Special thanks to Natalie Joyner, Tyrone Gordon, and Sean Hearth, who were there on the day of. But I know that there was so much that happened in advance to make it successful. Arlene Borenstein was the most fantastic emcee. And Ray Macaluso was wonderful about recording the event.

6:21:41 – 6:22:21Speaker 22

And I'm just grateful. But I tell you what, the planning team that worked so hard, all these small business people who, while they're trying to run their businesses, are also trying to plan an event like this. Alex Risio of Miramar Bakery, Deb Torcha from Jones Florist, Walter Kispe, he's the president of the Johnson Street Business District and he's the owner of Refined Cuts, and Gene Wegman, who's an employee at Burdette Beckman Inc. These folks put in hours and hours and hours to plan the event. And I think they're so excited.

6:22:23 – 6:22:54Speaker 22

I heard from so many people that the great feelings that they had about being in community and they want to do more and they want to keep it going and they don't want it to be once a year. They want to do something to keep it going. It doesn't have to be on that scale, but we're meeting at the end of next week to plan what comes next. And thank you to everyone on the commission for all of your support for being there as well. So just gratitude, gratitude, and I just had to say that.

6:22:55 – 6:23:39Speaker 22

On March 13, the next installment of Story Time in the Park is happening. It is a woman who lives in District 6, who's a published children's book author and she's gonna come and read the book that she authored for the kids. So, that will be at the Washington Park Community Center. It'll be our first outdoor story time in the park because it'll be after the time change, so it won't be dark. And so we'll be able to do the kids will play in the park after we read and they get their books to stay home. So please, to take home. So please spread the word for anybody who wants to come out to the playground at Washington Park, Friday, March 13, from six to 07:30. And that's it. Thank you.

6:23:39Speaker 1

Thank you, Commissioner Quintana. Let's go to Commissioner Schuham.

6:23:44 – 6:24:00Speaker 2

Thank you, Mayor. Just really quick, I wanted to congratulate Ray Lynn. I'm so happy we got that taken care of. And welcome back Steve Stewart and handsome Jose. It's very nice to sit up here and see your faces out there.

6:24:02 – 6:24:35Speaker 2

I also wanted to just say thank you to Department of Public Works, Vin and Cassandra and Phyllis. I was honored to be a panelist at Resilient Broward, which was put on by the Alliance and the Broward Workshop, the Marine Hub, Broward County, and the Fort Lauderdale Chamber. And Chris, as well, helped me to prepare for that. And the topic was going from resilient plans to actually having things in place. And I can tell you, Hollywood was I think people were very impressed with the work that's happening in Hollywood.

6:24:35 – 6:25:15Speaker 2

So thank you for your assistance there. And also, just thank you to Joseph, similar to Commissioner Beiterman. Joseph, I just sent you a text that there was garbage all over the side streets. And it was a lot. And by the end of that day, I mean, it looked amazing. So please thank your staff for us. I don't know how they did it, but it was pretty amazing. And the last thing I have a lot, but we'll save it for next time. But I thought Bob Glickman made a great point this morning I mentioned to Ray Lynn about when a resident incurs expenses to put solar panels on their home, and then we are authorizing a project to be right next to it and blocking

6:25:14Speaker 1

At stuff. The same time, you know that there's no right to a view. And you know that the same law that prevents that prevents us from addressing that issue.

6:25:22 – 6:26:04Speaker 2

So my question is, I would like support for staff to take a look. There could be nothing. But I certainly think it's a fair question. If staff could take a look and let us know, if the mayor is correct, that there's nothing we can do, and then we should tell our residents, you're proceeding at your own risk to put in these panels. And that's that. But I thought Bob raised an excellent point. So I would like support for staff to look into that question. And what, if anything, residents can do if they've installed solar panels. And then we are approving projects that block the sunlight. Okay. All right. Thank you.

6:26:08 – 6:26:23Speaker 16

think that could be answered today because I did look into this. And my understanding is that it's in the permit when they apply for a permit for the solar panels that there's nothing that they're guaranteed of the direct sunlight.

6:26:23Speaker 2

No, I'm not suggesting the city's guaranteeing anything.

6:26:26Speaker 16

I think they're warned ahead of time in the permit application that that can happen.

6:26:33Speaker 1

Someone speak to that from staff now that we know the answer?

6:26:36Speaker 2

All right. I mean, look, this is not a life threatening emergency.

6:26:41Speaker 2

could just let us know the answer to that question.

6:26:43Speaker 2

And that's it. Thank you so much.

6:26:45 – 6:27:30Speaker 1

All right. Thank you all. So Sergio Manas is here. Come on up, Sergio. Sergio, he's been sitting here. But I asked him to come because he's got an ask of us. And the only way to address an ask to us is to come here and ask. And I want you to tell the city commission about the foot volley tour that you run, that you're the president of, and you're a Hollywood resident that has this international tour of this amazing sport. Arlene, why don't you go ahead and put up the photos? Are you able to play the video? Yeah. So Sergio can prompt the photos and the video. The discussion is about bleachers and the big national tournament that's coming to Hollywood Beach. Go ahead, Sergio.

6:27:30 – 6:27:53Speaker 36

Well, first of all, thank you all for allowing me to be here. And first of all, congratulations to Raylan's story, because when I was doing football back in the day, you were kind of new at the city now. I'll look at her now. Yeah. Well, she hasn't changed. She looks exactly the same. Whatever she drinks in the morning, know, should let everybody know. She hasn't aged a day, so.

6:27:55Speaker 14

First order of business to reveal your secret.

6:27:58 – 6:28:22Speaker 36

So we've been doing Pro Foot Volley tour of city of Hollywood for a long time, and very proud of doing it here. It's nationally televised. It's similar to beach volleyball, but it's football. And the mayor saw it in Israel, which is very popular now in Israel. And over the years, when we were starting, the city of Hollywood used to sponsor the event.

6:28:23 – 6:29:03Speaker 36

But over the years, we got our own sponsors and the city doesn't provide any type of cash or anything like that. However, what happens at our events is that the folks that come, the residents and the tourists, they always complain to us because we don't have bleachers. It's like every single time. They're like and they're always like, they vent their frustration at the Tourism Council. Why isn't tourism doing anything? And I'm like, I've sent them you know, I've tried a million times with the Tourism Council. But I'm not here to like ask you guys for a cash sponsorship because we we have a title sponsor for event. We take care of the athletes. We take care of staff. We take care take care of everything.

6:29:04Speaker 36

And we do multiple events because it would be sort of a burden financially if we asked for sponsors at all of the events.

6:29:10 – 6:29:33Speaker 1

And can you just talk about how your events are produced for television and that it airs worldwide or wherever you have, And the exposure is really what we're getting. You haven't produced it for the sake of an audience, although you're going to talk about the bleachers and how they add to the visual appeal of the broadcast of the foot volley across television screens?

6:29:33 – 6:29:47Speaker 36

Yeah. I mean, when we start I mean, it's kind of like a success story that a lot of Hollywood residents don't even really know about. Like, when we started pushing foot volley years ago, It's just it's a really captivating sport and

6:29:47Speaker 1

Or let me put the photos up if you could.

6:29:49 – 6:30:32Speaker 36

Yeah. And and we've been pushing it for Olympic inclusion. And if you think about it, there's like 30 some sports that make the Olympics. Right? We're a sport that's not even in the Olympics, yet we get broadcasts on a bunch of TV networks around the country. So it's a sport that really sells itself. And Hollywood's always been the host. Our dream has always been to like, whereas Venice Beach or whatever hosts beach volleyball, then it became Olympic sport. Hollywood would be hosting football and becomes an Olympic sport. But anyways, so it's a I'd like to call our event a sport entertainment type event. Because when folks see it, they get it, and they really, really like it. That's the same reason why it got so popular, for instance, in Israel.

6:30:41Speaker 36

is that you guys cover the bleachers for one MACHT: of our events, not all of them.

6:30:45Speaker 1

JOSHUA As a reimbursement, you said?

6:30:47Speaker 36

JOSHUA As a reimbursement. And the bleachers, we get them

6:30:51Speaker 1

JOSHUA can zoom out.

6:30:52Speaker 36

We get the bleachers from Dade County.

6:30:54Speaker 26

JOSHUA This is Hollywood, right?

6:30:55 – 6:31:06Speaker 36

From right. That's a Hollywood event right there. And they make the event look like a million dollars, all right? And I mean, there's the bleachers right there. It makes the event look so much better.

6:31:07Speaker 1

SPEAKER When is the championship tournament?

6:31:09 – 6:31:30Speaker 36

Well, we have an event coming up, not this weekend, but next weekend. And then we have six events lined up this year. So our ask is that on one of those, you guys would cover the bleachers which comes to around $6,000, okay? And that would be our Yeah. It's funny because you say that because like we're getting I mean, it's public record.

6:31:30 – 6:32:01Speaker 36

We're doing an event in Ocean City. They're paying us almost $50,000 to do the event. Our ask is, JOSHUA There's six events this year. The reason why we fluctuate between five and six in Hollywood is because we get poached by other cities.

6:32:01Speaker 16

JOSHUA All right. So listen.

6:32:03Speaker 8

JOSHUA Do you charge to sit on the At

6:32:05 – 6:32:16Speaker 16

risk of getting criticized by Annie Ralston, I'll make a motion that we approve DELL: $36,000

6:32:16Speaker 1

to provide these bleachers

6:32:17Speaker 12

No, no, it's not 36,000

6:32:18Speaker 3

He GREGORY asked for 6,000

6:32:19Speaker 16

All six of your events. Oh, no,

6:32:30 – 6:32:43Speaker 1

$30.30 to even interested in all six? Or are we looking just for the highlight, a weekend that is the championship weekend?

6:32:43Speaker 36

I mean, if we could do all the events, absolutely, it would

6:32:47Speaker 1

You're able to do that. Yeah. Mean install it. Yeah.

6:32:50Speaker 8

me give you what you ask, see how it goes, and then we can

6:32:53Speaker 3

What's SPEAKER the capacity in this bleacher setup?

6:32:56Speaker 36

SPEAKER Each bleacher unit is about two fifty people. So it's around 500 people on the bleacher.

6:33:00Speaker 3

So you have two bleacher units, 500 people, $6,000 a set?

6:33:03Speaker 36

Right. And we get it for it's the most economical place. We get it from Miami Yeah. Dade Park.

6:33:08Speaker 3

Yeah. And what is the how many people do you typically MACHT: get to an event for one of the championship ones?

6:33:15Speaker 1

Well, it's passersby.

6:33:17Speaker 36

Yeah. I mean, get it JOSHUA

6:33:18Speaker 3

If it's a made for TV, yeah, that's great. But if there's four people sitting there,

6:33:23Speaker 14

it's No, not no, no. Get

6:33:24Speaker 36

yeah, no, no. Get it. We'll get enough people. We'll fill the bleachers, please.

6:33:28Speaker 3

JAMES We'll fill the bleachers at the championship one.

6:33:30Speaker 36

JAMES Pretty much all of them. If we had them, we'll

6:33:32Speaker 3

When's the championship one?

6:33:35Speaker 36

JAMES mean, we have six events. There's not one that

6:33:38Speaker 3

we I just thought there was one that was ideal.

6:33:40Speaker 36

But it could be the last one. Mean, look

6:33:42Speaker 3

Is something that's more popular than

6:33:44 – 6:34:01Speaker 36

This year, just so you guys know, we're doing two events during World Cup, which, by the way, FIFA, when they give away the FIFA rules I shouldn't be saying this publicly, but you're not supposed to be doing sports events when FIFA's in town. We have them the weekends that FIFA's here. So we're doing them all.

6:34:01Speaker 3

So that's good one to do it.

6:34:03Speaker 3

you try one then? And then we can revisit

6:34:09Speaker 5

Kevin. I'd have for the second for that.

6:34:12Speaker 1

For the sixth? Yeah.

6:34:14Speaker 5

All right. Listen And they're happening in Hollywood. Are they happening

6:34:16Speaker 36

They're happening in Hollywood.

6:34:17Speaker 24

You know what?

6:34:18Speaker 22

Has come from the CRA fund?

6:34:20Speaker 5

No. I don't know which fund you want to bring it first. But I can see the advertising that it's taking place here. How much is

6:34:28Speaker 1

DANIEL The value.

6:34:29Speaker 5

DANIEL few seconds in national television or international television when you have City of Hollywood. So I second that motion for

6:34:40Speaker 1

Maybe we could, for this investment, also provide you with thirty second commercial clips on the City Of Hollywood that you can run during the broadcast. If we wanted sponsors.

6:34:49Speaker 36

Can do that. Absolutely, yeah.

6:34:51Speaker 8

I have a question about or a banner, could put Hollywood, City Of Hollywood. But JOSHUA liability

6:34:56Speaker 1

who's responsible

6:34:57Speaker 1

God forbid, that bleacher breaks down? If it crashes, We God have no

6:35:03Speaker 8

The whole thing? I

6:35:05Speaker 36

mean, technically, it would be us, I guess. But we've had these bleachers in Hollywood many

6:35:08Speaker 1

times providing insurance specifically. What she's asking. Yeah.

6:35:11Speaker 36

Yeah. You get in I mean, have insurance. Yeah.

6:35:14Speaker 3

Yeah. All we're doing is providing money to reimburse Yeah.

6:35:19Speaker 5

Reimbursement of that. That would be

6:35:21Speaker 1

where there's Z logos and what happens.

6:35:22Speaker 3

You have your vent insurance.

6:35:23Speaker 36

Well, you guys would be getting pretty much a six for one.

6:35:27Speaker 1

Down below, yeah.

6:35:31Speaker 1

So look, our marketing department is gonna have some requests on banners and city of Hollywood logo signage. Can you accommodate that?

6:35:40Speaker 36

Absolutely. Yeah, of course. Yeah.

6:35:42Speaker 12

We can do all that.

6:35:43Speaker 8

And is it sea turtle? I just need to make sure it's not sea

6:35:45Speaker 2

turtle nesting time. God forbid.

6:35:46Speaker 16

It is sea turtle nesting time.

6:35:48Speaker 36

Yeah, some of them

6:35:49Speaker 16

Sweep the beach before they set up, probably.

6:35:52Speaker 36

Yeah, I mean, yes. We've been around. I mean, we can get around that. Mean, I've all

6:35:57Speaker 16

With or without the bleachers, they're having an event.

6:36:02 – 6:36:18Speaker 1

Right. Right. Well, he wants the event to be more picturesque. It is broadcast. It's gonna have Hollywood. Hollywood branding is what we want at the facility. And we also want the thirty second Hollywood infoclips commercials that we'll provide you with during the broadcast.

6:36:18Speaker 36

Yeah, you can do that. Yeah.

6:36:20 – 6:36:36Speaker 36

cities, like when you do a TV network, as long as we're allowed two things. Anything that's Football League related, like if we want to sell merchandise that's ours, they allow us to put that in the and if it's a host city. But we can't have, like if we have a beer company, they can't also get a commercial.

6:36:36Speaker 1

Right. I gotcha.

6:36:37Speaker 3

General broadcast.

6:36:38Speaker 1

All right. Well, the motion and the second was for the bleachers for the six events.

6:36:42Speaker 5

That is correct.

6:36:43Speaker 1

And so all those in favor, aye. Aye. Any opposed?

6:36:47Speaker 22

I think we should do one and see

6:36:49Speaker 1

how You're that All right, motion passes. Woah. You guys just said yes. And now

6:36:55Speaker 3

I didn't say aye.

6:36:56Speaker 2

I did not say yes.

6:36:58Speaker 1

Okay. So let's do the vote again. And then if it fails

6:37:01Speaker 36

Well, Josh, why don't we do this? Just because I hear what's going on. Why don't we just do

6:37:08 – 6:37:21Speaker 36

three events this year. Because those will be the ones that we market the crap out of. And then we you know what I mean? Or do two. Let's do it doesn't matter. We're still going to, for me, two, three I know it's going be successful.

6:37:21Speaker 1

You're happy. All right. He said two. Is there a motion for two?

6:37:24Speaker 8

Yes. I make a motion for two.

6:37:26Speaker 3

Two doing the FIFA. Doing FIFA.

6:37:28Speaker 12

Three, three, three.

6:37:29Speaker 11

Didn't then do Three.

6:37:30Speaker 1

I mean, hell,

6:37:31Speaker 16

and then make some

6:37:32Speaker 1

Let's roll with it.

6:37:34Speaker 22

I feel like I'm at an

6:37:36Speaker 19

The motion either needs to be withdrawn, or it needs to be voted upon.

6:37:39 – 6:37:59Speaker 5

I'm not withdrawing my second. My point is, let's pull the people on the motion as as it is and have the people say individually what the vote is. Because first, I heard a bunch of votes, more than five votes, and then all of a sudden people are questioning. So let's just go one by one and decide how you vote.

6:37:59Speaker 3

It's all six events?

6:38:00Speaker 5

For all six events.

6:38:01 – 6:38:16Speaker 1

Yeah. All All those in favor of the six events with bleachers at $6,000 apiece for $36,000 to include the TV commercial thirty second clip and the on-site banner. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Opposed.

6:38:17Speaker 1

right. Motion fails.

6:38:18Speaker 8

Not because we don't like it.

6:38:19Speaker 1

Fails now. How about a substitute?

6:38:21Speaker 3

I'd just rather give him what he asked for.

6:38:23Speaker 4

I need to clarify who made who's approved it.

6:38:26Speaker 1

Oh, no. Peterman, Levy, and Hernandez in favor. Rest opposed.

6:38:31Speaker 4

Levy and who? Hernandez. Okay.

6:38:35Speaker 1

In favor, the rest opposed. And that will be a substitute

6:38:38Speaker 8

I'll make a motion. For events.

6:38:43Speaker 12

Three. Perfect.

6:38:44Speaker 8

And then with

6:38:46Speaker 1

One of which during FIFA?

6:38:48 – 6:39:09Speaker 8

One of which during FIFA, if not two. That's fine. Again and the end, would like to see the beginning and the end. If we're going to give the bleachers, let's do it. And then after, reevaluate. Like do the first three. Then you reevaluate. And if successful and everything is great and it brings the crowd, let's do the other three. But I say first, the first three. And both beginning and end of FIFA.

6:39:09Speaker 1

right. So the motion is for three. Any comments? All the mics are lit up.

6:39:13Speaker 2

When is FIFA?

6:39:15Speaker 1

FIFA is June. June.

6:39:16 – 6:39:42Speaker 2

My heartburn, once again, is that this is not an emergency. We can put it on the agenda. You don't need five months to rent these bleachers, I'm assuming. I just don't It's a big deal. Also, it's like so well within the city manager's authority. I mean, if he wants to do it, he can do it. I don't really get why are we doing this.

6:39:42Speaker 16

I have a question.

6:39:43Speaker 1

Because people can reach us. Go ahead.

6:39:45 – 6:40:02Speaker 2

So I mean, we may have residents that want to come in and support this. And yes, yes, yes. I have residents on the beach who sometimes get concerned about where we need to move this periodically, which I know you do, which is great. I'm just saying, this is like something that people GREEN: would love to come in and comment about.

6:40:02Speaker 36

We also have an event. Mean, we could kick start. Our first event is next weekend, not this one. But we could apply it on that one right now. We start we already have athletes

6:40:11Speaker 8

But the city manager

6:40:12Speaker 16

That's what my question was.

6:40:14Speaker 16

What is your event schedule for the six? What months?

6:40:18 – 6:40:36Speaker 36

We start next weekend not this weekend, next weekend. And then we have May. And then we have June, which is right around it's literally done the weekend of the FIFAs. And then we have I forget what the other one then it's end of the year, I think. It's like September or November. I've got to double check.

6:40:36Speaker 1

I love the FIFA alignment, especially.

6:40:38Speaker 16

I will miss this one if we don't approve it today, which is fine, I guess.

6:40:43 – 6:41:25Speaker 5

Well, but let me ask you something. By the way, some of your residents did complain about doing something at the last minute, actually supported staff doing something administratively in a back room someplace. That argument went Amen. That argument well, it's all right. I do. That argument, to me, doesn't really fly. And by the way, the opportunity to be able to have a sponsorship on a televised, it's huge. It's not 6,000. It's not 36,000. It's a lot more than that if you quantify the value of something like that.

6:41:25 – 6:42:07Speaker 5

We don't have to do this. But if we're going to do it and you're going to take a chance, whether it's FIFA time or not FIFA time to do something like this, I think the sponsorship should be x period, whether you don't want to do it about $36,000 if you want to look, we'll give you $25,000 We'll give you $20,000 like we do all the other things. You try to come up with something different. But how are supportive of this $36,000 You guys go ahead and figure it out. I'll be supportive of whatever you guys put out there. But the opportunity of missing one particular spot in a particular event, particular weekend, it could mean a heck of a lot more in value than what we're trying to save.

6:42:07 – 6:42:20Speaker 16

I have a question. How much did we give to Saver SoFlo that doesn't even carry the Hollywood name on it? And has single use plastic at the event.

6:42:21Speaker 1

Listen, that's a different thing.

6:42:23Speaker 16

No, I mean, it's the same thing.

6:42:24Speaker 1

you propose for this, Kevin?

6:42:26Speaker 16

kind of event. This is going to be televised worldwide with how many millions of people watching or tens of

6:42:32Speaker 1

Do thousands people you all want to

6:42:33Speaker 2

I don't think anybody's questioning the value. It's just

6:42:36 – 6:42:50Speaker 8

JAMES have a JAMES I I'd amend my motion. My motion will be immediate release to allow you to put for the first event, and then put it on the agenda for the remainder events for And we move forward from that. I support that.

6:42:51Speaker 5

And the reason why is because of the agenda, then we'll need these four votes.

6:42:55Speaker 1

All All those in favor of the motion

6:42:58Speaker 4

Excuse me. Rest the second vote?

6:43:01Speaker 5

I'll second it.

6:43:02Speaker 8

Peter, Carol, pick your choice.

6:43:04Speaker 1

Let's give it to Commissioner Quintana.

6:43:06Speaker 16

So is this basically just paying for the next two week

6:43:10 – 6:43:22Speaker 36

Just so you guys just understand some of the differences. Like, when they did the FIVB volleyball in Fort Lauderdale, it was a half $1,000,000 sponsorship, Okay? And then Fort Lauderdale still put in another 100,000.

6:43:23Speaker 16

To snap it up. That's why I voted to pay for it.

6:43:26Speaker 36

Right. So it's like and I'm

6:43:27Speaker 3

I'm giving you guys a chance

6:43:28 – 6:43:47Speaker 1

to end the discussion here. We have a motion on the floor to approve $6,000 for one weekend with the other two FIFA weekends to be presented to us as a resolution to come before the commission on an agenda through a sponsorship type item. All those in favor say aye.

6:43:47Speaker 5

Aye. Is that on the next two weeks, the next commission meeting if possible?

6:43:51Speaker 1

Okay. Any opposed? Hearing none, item carries unanimously.

6:43:55Speaker 36

Okay, all right.

6:43:56Speaker 36

Great. Thank you, guys.

6:43:57Speaker 1

City attorney.

6:43:59Speaker 8

Howie, make peace.

6:44:00 – 6:44:41Speaker 19

Thank you so much. One announcement, an executive session pursuant to Florida Statutes Section 286.011, Subsection eight, Subsection A, Governing Public Meetings. I, as the attorney for the city of Hollywood, wish to inform the city during this public meeting that I desire to hold an executive session on Wednesday, 03/25/2026 at 11AM to seek advice concerning litigation style, Glissett Martinez versus the City of Hollywood. Invited to attend this session are the mayor, vice mayor, and commissioners, city manager George R. Keller, Jr, assistant city manager Raylan Story, chief litigation counsel Julian Juracci, and myself.

6:44:43Speaker 1

Thank you. City attorney I mean, city manager.

6:44:46 – 6:45:09Speaker 23

GREGORY Thank you. Thank you, mayor, vice mayor, commissioners, and all the members of the public and staff. Be as brief as I can. Forty ninth annual waterway cleanup this Saturday, nine to one. Land and boat access, de littering 30 plus sites across Broward County, Ann Cobb, Holland Park, Hollywood Marina, and Rotary Park are the Hollywood locations.

6:45:10 – 6:45:46Speaker 23

The Hollywood Arts Festival is this Sunday, and Arts Park at Young Circle, 11AM to 6PM, local artists, food trucks, family fun, etcetera. District three, Commission in the Community meeting next Wednesday, March 11 from six to 8PM in the 2nd Floor Development Services Hub in the Library Building. And as we indicated before, obviously, St. Patrick's Day parade and festival, Sunday, March 15, noon to 6PM in Downtown Hollywood. I know we'd already mentioned earlier about Jose Cortez and Steve Stewart here.

6:45:46 – 6:46:02Speaker 23

Just so you know, Jose is ACM for the position. Ray Lynn will be vacating. And Steve Stewart overseeing our new performance management as well as procurement issues going forward. So thank you very much for all your time and patience. It certainly has been tested.

6:46:02Speaker 1

This meeting is adjourned.

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