Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Good evening everyone. Sorry for being late. Like to call the uh village of Holl's planning commission meeting for May 28th, 2025 to order. If we could all stand for the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to theublic for it stands one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you call please. Campbell here Christian Lacy here. Cross Wallace here. Everly here Okansky here. Has anybody been heard from the two that are missing? I guess um as of right now, let's just give a few minutes for being late. Otherwise, we'll mark being absent. Could we uh move on to approval of the agenda as the agenda? I second. All in favor? I I Any opposed? Hearing none. So moved. Approval of the minutes from February 26th, 2025. I did see one um clerical error that's in here. It's just a spelling error. On the second page, number two, under new business, um the second paragraph, it says the was a discussion. I think it's supposed to be there was a discussion. Just to point that out, just to make sure that it's Other than that, I didn't see anything. Like to make a motion as so amended.

I'll make a motion to approve the the minutes from February 28th as amended. I All right. Uh we have a motion and a second. All in favor? I. Any opposed? None. Are all right. Moving on to the statement of purpose. you'll volunteer to read this for us, please. I'll do it. Thank you. Sure. Um, statement of purpose. The mission of the Holly Village government is to enhance our community's quality of life. Our organization strives for quality services, responsive action to citizen requests and a cost-effective government. We promote citizen participation, proactive decision-making, and environmental quality. Most important, we shall always serve the citizens of Holly. The village of Holly will be a prestigious historical village that is a green residential oasis from the city and the center of commerce and activity for the region. Thank you. Welcome. Moving on to public comments. If there's anyone in the audience that would like to come forward and speak before us on anything that is not on the agenda, uh please do so at this time. Come to the microphone, state your name and address, please. Correct. No, it's for items on the agenda. Pardon me. Under number six, it says items on the agenda. Comments may be made after commission discussion. So, you guys get to comment after we do, right? This is just for things that really are not uh before us right now. Uh but when we discuss business, we will allow anything to be said. Okay. Um, anyone coming forward? All right. See no one moving

forward. If we look at old business, uh, discussion of the capital improvement process. Did we move anything forward from our last meeting slowly? Nothing. Any other comments from staff? Okay. Moving on to new business. New business item A uh 2025- Z001. Consideration of site plan review for the property located at 107 Thomas. ID uh number is IH0124101-00004. Would we uh like to have present anything at this point. Okay. Well, if the applicant would like to uh come forward and and state uh anything that uh they would like us to know and anything that was on the row information that maybe has been addressed after the uh report that was sent to us. My name is Patrick You should probably have if you like you're more than welcome to see that if we have any questions we can always get up and take a closer look if there's This is something that we are truly want to see.

orientist building. Sir, would you like to grab the microphone so the men can actually record what you're saying, please? This is a 107 building for a while. commercial uses. It's commercial. It's next to a resil. A lot of it kind of grass over but there's gravel underneath. What is proposed is to keep the existing building intact. They have changing the colors of it. I think they put some new windows in extensive interior improvements although the think the previous had done a lot of improvements. I understand the primary purpose of the site plan was to have the parking lot be more compant with village ordinances also address storm water and the landscaping.

The version that's in front of you here uh was kind of a second version that was result of a staff meeting that was based on original concerns about circulation. So this is adding circulation I should say building the driveway instead of going across the entire property will be dedicated driveway. And then the storm water would be essentially a kind of impression that would be in this portion. We have high ground water inention to kind of act. There is a inlet existing inlet just off the property here which actually goes up this streets back. out here. Um, we can't go the easy way. We can go the hard way. But the ideas to try to do to address things on the and then we have the landscaping which we do have some additional screening to the residents. to the east on the west side that's already zoned commercial and we also

have some landscaping along the frontage again to try to keep it in compiance as much with orders as possible the parking lot we have an existing building we have limitations in terms of physical distance from the building to the property line and that is going to dictate a in terms of the width of the dry vial in particular. And then also the loading space per ordinance would be quite a bit longer than it is shown here which would be impacting again the distance or the guess a buffer space if you will to the residence. So the with this particular business um any any loading unloading would be like a like an Amazon van or UPS type van as opposed to like a semi truck. So we're requesting that that be short so that the application has already been submitted and the next meeting is June 2. So, we're obviously not asking for that approval, but but I guess I would assume that we approval those. But there is I guess the point being is that there is it's an existing building, existing location issues that don't quite follow the ordinance, but the intent is to of the circul

gosh in the fall as a fill in Um, and I am the one that provides you the report. So, I believe you'll see me regularly. Anybody have any questions for the area? I do have one. Um, I know when it used to be the laundromat, the owners always parked in the back. Is there a space back there for the, you know, the owners to, uh, park back there? Uh, right now we needed the back area for the storm water management. Okay. That's what I just wanted to make sure. I can't remember which one it was. Yeah. Yeah. dedicated towards that. I just wanted to double check because I know how it was when the laundromat was there and they had you know and I know it was kind of swampy almost trying to obviously with the pavement you're kind of impervious but we're trying to keep this back so that excess storm water also improve the front area. Yeah, because I know that it used to be real mushy a lot of times back then. Oh yeah, we found out I think it came out during the review process that the water table is very very high in this area. So that there isn't options in terms of again kind of per the ordinance or this is regular.

All right. Thank you. Anybody else? I'm a little bit confused about the process. The requirement is 20 ft. They only have us after we Yeah. The site plan would be approved on a contingency of them obtaining the variance if the variance uh board goes along with their request. All right. But we have to do our due diligence on everything else saying it's okay with us for them to make a decision. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions? I had a couple and one I guess I'm more asking the planner than the I know and I could not find in the emergency regarding street side or main road in front. I thought I know at least on industrial it had to be on the side when we were going over this I don't remember seeing anything in the commercial district. Yeah. So that's okay. So real quick um we have met with this applicant. They had another drawing previously submitted um that was trying to really reduce the amount of um area and unfortunately what that layout would have been would have required more variances and variances that and I don't want to speak for Jeremy that we really weren't comfortable with in terms of like possibility of people backing into the street and things like that. So we went with the applicant and we did um talk through and this is the best layout that

we could find and come up with for such a tight site, right? It's very narrow and then having to deal with the storm water issues as well. So the spot that we could put the zone based on the length is in the front. Um, they typically aren't going to get a lot of deliveries, so you're probably not going to see much. And they are asking for the variance to reduce the size from the 50 by 500 square ft to the 300. They are asking for a reduction in that because they don't envision, you know, honestly a semi truck is not going to get there, right? So, um, so that's why we propose to put it in the front there. And they do have some screening that they're proposing as well to meet the ordinance requirements that actually will do some blocking of that as well as the screening adjacent to the neighbor that will help as well. So, the landscape We've got street trees, some trucks, some screens here, anybody else on that. Okay. Anything else you'd like to address? The also I know you were requesting a regard. commission.

One of my concerns with that is because of the site being commercial and moving forward down the road. Um, if this business were to ever exit the business and someone else come in there and require dumpster, all right, the only place it could be placed would be in the back area of the parking. So, is that going to be soil that is really not stable enough for a dumpster? Then the other item that was before us was a note in there regarding mushiness and water retention. All right. And that part of the scope would be u that the applicant is in agreeance to sign a basically a letter of promise that if the bas is not adequate that then they would uh move forward with putting it the proper or whatever would be needed to basically make it for the retention of water. Johnson needs to be drawn in that record and then the other question I would have uh before the administration

is who would make that determination. So we would use row engineering for that. If we found that there was a deficiency with the water or there was extreme flooding on the site, we would bring out engineering uh that would be build back to the applicant for those costs uh to determine whether or not what they have is sufficient and a remedy moving forward. I just want to make sure there's mechanism in place to address that going down the road. Um, anything else from the commission regarding other questions that were in the plan and or would like to get up at this time? Yeah. So, we did provide a report to the applicant as well as the planning commission. Oh, okay. So, um, instead of the letter that you used to receive, I did do a detailed report for you. Um, at some point maybe you can give me some feedback on whether or not that's helpful. Um uh as you can as you know it is an existing site that has sat vacants for some time and there are some constraints in terms of the property uh dealing with the width. Uh we did find in the U village records that this parcel is zoned commercial. Um, if you were to look at your zoning map at this time, it says residential, but we did look and we found the zoning um, information as well as the meeting minutes from a resoning that was done in the 90s. So, it is commercial, so it is a permitted use. Um, so we did clarify that. Um, in terms of uh, setback requirements, lot with requirements, etc., Um the site is conforming to the majority of those with the exception being the um sideyard setback to the east. Uh that setback is existing. It is legal non-conforming. They're not making

any changes to make that setback worse. So it is permitted to remain as is. Um they are proposing to reuse the existing building and the um colors that they chose are some neutral ter um colors in terms of uh grays and some light tan accent colors. Um you do have your village design standards that are within your zoning ordinance. There is a notation there that um in terms of the unless existing buildings do not meet the standards of this section as determined by the planning commission. So it does appear that you do have a mechanism to wave some of these by this being an existing building. The link the wording is a little bit off but I think that was the end. Um so I did note like that some of these are being met and some are not just based on this being an existing building. Let's see. Uh signage, they'll be pulling separate sign permits for that, but they will be looking to utilize the existing full sign as well as put wall signage on the building. They have um added landscaping, like they said, to the front of the property that meets the streetscape requirements as well as some landscaping adjacent to the um residential neighbor next door to help with the buffer. because the fence cannot be uh extended beyond the foremost portion of the uh building from the foremost portion of the building back along that um residential property. They are proposing a fence and there are I believe fences around the other property lines as well that are existing right okay uh let's see what else um parking they are looking for those two variances that we stated earlier being the of the loading zone and a reduction of that um based on the size of the property. They're also

looking for a reduction in the maneuvering lane width. Um in order to get this the parking lot in this vicinity, there is a narrower aisle width than you would normally see in a parking lot. However, if you do look within the safe plan, you will see that they have tested that maneuvering ability um to be able to make sure that someone could get in and out of there. And it's just one car, right? It's not like correct. Correct. Yeah. Um there I think they have five parking spaces and one handicap space. So, it's very very small parking lot. Um in terms of exterior lighting, they are proposing a light um at the entrance on the which is required by your ordinance and they are also um proposing lighting on the building to light the parking spaces. There is not um any type of uh uh overlap of intrusion into the adjacent neighborhoods that's beyond what your ordinance allows in terms of lighting. They are looking for a variance from the gar uh the garbage container um and a waiver for that. So that is also listed as a condition in your um packet. utilities are not changing. Um, again, we've discussed the variances and there is an engineering review within your packet. Starting on page six are your 18 um requirements for granting a site plan and uh some comments related to each one of those. And then beyond those 18 requirements, um there are some suggested motion conditions to include if you are inclined to grant this. And those include that the applicants secure the variances for the loading zone and the parking aisle with that the planning commission um wave the wall requirement

and accept a vinyl fence. Um because I apologize, I missed this one. your ordinance um has some language that's a little conflicting and confusing in terms of wall or buffer strip requirements and they're proposing um that vinyl fence versus a wall. I'm not really sure that a wall would really be beneficial there. The adjacent neighbor already has a fence. there's some vegetation there that a wall would probably end up killing which is not ideal because that also acts as a buffer. Um the another condition suggested is the trash enclosure waiver. Um the acknowledgement that it is an existing building, therefore not meeting all of the village design standards. Um that the applicant signed the agreement as stated earlier for the storm water issues and that the plans incorporate uh the comments from Doug Scott regarding the engineering on if you have any questions of me I'm happy to you have any questions if I'm not mistaken also I know there's around the west side of the building and the used forive of that sidewalk there is a man on the side of that building. So I'm kind of looking at that in reality is if there were curb stops put up there, you know, they could actually use that additional distance, you know, as part of their calculations. Yeah, we did Doug Scott and I did discuss using like curve blocks. Um, sometimes they're nice to have and then sometimes they're a hindrance, especially for like snow plow removal

and things like that. Um, and so we didn't land on suggesting they add those, right? I understand that, but I guess in my, you know, personal opinion was if curb blocks were put in and if the variance would not allow because of the distance that extra 2 give them that distance that required for the Yeah. I mean, they're utilizing that existing sidewalk just a little bit concerning itself because we could put on the sidewalk which could impact the circulation there too. I understand your point because of the tightness of it. Anybody else have any other comments? I might just comment. Uh I understand why, you know, having been on this commission for several years, why we are requiring these kinds of things. Um I'm also going to speak for a moment as the director, as the CEO of the Chamber of Commerce, and just comment that um this is this is a piece of property

and a building that has been commercial for decades, even if it's been vacant. And it feels like the parking that was there was sufficient for 50 years of business. And um I'm just concerned that as we start running into other properties that are similar characteristics um and long histories that were not finding ways to really work with what was there um without making such huge changes. Um at this point is six months of work for um a business that's not open yet. If you don't mind, uh Mr. Kinnman, I appreciate your comments. Uh what triggered Miss Lonnie and this business coming in front of this board was that it was a pvious parking lot. Uh we could not approve a dirt or gravel parking lot for the ordinance. So, she had to do site plan upgrades which then triggered planning commission approval. and in essence for her to meet most of if not all uh zoning requirements. If this property already had an existing parking lot uh paved or concrete, they probably wouldn't be here today in front of this commission. This is where I have a problem. El That's a great question. I'll have to look into that. Well, it just seems like very disparit treat.

You might want to note in the minutes. Yeah, I'm thinking you look at how many years did they park in the front and you know that kind of change has actually probably made this even harder. you know, um I see where we're at and you know, I I want to see it move forward. Um but my concern is that um we don't become too hard for business to come here. appreciate your comments regarding that. But again, that's why we have ordinances that are existing and why we have Well, and if the ordinances aren't working for our community, then we need to start looking at the ordinances. I cannot believe that we have our second meeting of the year and we don't ever talk about the ordinances and they need to be something that are always being reviewed and upgrades and say I've been on this committee now for a year and a half and we've never once talked about the ordinances not once How can we serve our community? Number one, if we're not familiar and know what's in them and how they should be operating. Number two, when these poor people come in seven months October, you bought that

[Music] building. I don't know what else to say. Instead of canceling, why can't we learn about the ores? Well, in our minutes from February 26, 2025, um, under our staff comments, um, Chief Watson did say, "Our ordinances are very antiquated." So, if they are antiquated, our commission believes they're antiquated, our staff believes they're antiquated, we need to work on them. This is something needs to be changed. Well, I think there's also we have to look at the cost of codifying ordinances and what that looks like and the village is operating to have a conversation. I'm sorry. I just I'm asking for a conversation. I'm not asking for anybody. I'm willing to give you a conversation, but you continue to cut me off. So, $800,000 deficit and we don't have it in the budget to do a cotification of the ordinance. At any time that you feel that you find an ordinance that needs to be addressed, bring it to our attention and we'll definitely review this one. What is it specifically that you would like to address on that ordinance? I would like to know what we can do about an ordinance that says that we have to pave every part of Isn't there some other imperous kind of parking or parking structure things? Couldn't we have a conversation on the last Wednesday of the month about parking and our ordinances? That's what I'd like. Absolutely. And there is impervious surface. If you look at up in the Milloint sub, that facility has a honeycomb. Did anyone offer that to these people? It's very close.

Did anyone offer that to you? Thank you. So, it's not our job as a village to design other people's properties. Well, if we've got ordinances that they have to abide by, then yes, it is. All right. With all that said, I agree that there's uh different things that we uh can look at Jeremy's defense. Um we at the line items as you like mentioned the parking area. All right. And by doing so, you' make recommendations, suggestions to bring forth first to vote on rather than toend that to council. Uh engineering then would be involved with rewriting it. That's where the cost come involved. Anyway, this is not the place time for it at this time. But uh again in regards to our staff to uh go over all the details and offer endless possibilities about what possibly might be done. They don't have the time and staff power to do that nor are they paid to do the engineering. Okay. Anything else that you would like to add to comments at this time. If anybody in the uh or the congregation the audience would like to come and make any comments, state your name and address and you're more than welcome to speak to anything That's my

name and I would have a bunch of questions based on a lot of things he mentioned. Again, I'm not But that exactly what I was hoping for was all this because I wanted to just shop and that will be a little already knew I was asking about this shop and I couldn't answer that followers announc She for she wants to stop at that shop. She said the map. So I'm hoping that even later down see what has to offer. some of the

restaurants out there and her shop is out there. Anybody else here supporting our nearest quilt That's a lot to drive on a Sunday. So you drive Michigan high gas. bring people to town. People will just encourage you to approve this immediately. The driveway gets by. I get fabric at my own house.

Most street for several years and I feel like the cold shop that is bringing to us goes right in line with the TVA's vision for our town buildings and having you know there win for it relieve us of I mean I've wondered as long as I've lived in what the heck is going on with that building like the buildings just end up getting dilapidated and and she has put in a lot of hard work to it looks great. It looks great. Um, and not only that, but in 2023, the GA did a market research survey and 79 people that answered that survey asked for quil. Um, so I feel like she came in and was like, "Okay, I got you. We're going to do this." You know, with this um I've been calling it the tours, but it's the shop. Um but this I mean this is going to benefit all of our businesses in town and I know that you guys approve the businesses. I don't know if you ever go back and check in with them, but our businesses are struggling and we need the traffic that this 102 is going to bring our community and it's it'll benefit the downtown everywhere in the county and all of our businesses. Um I understand that there's

ordinances and um I'm a procedural person and a rule myself. So um but I would respectfully request that in the interest of always that you let this lady open her shop. Thank you. Anybody else? I just only recently, oh my god, actually I'm really into the little bookto I don't I went to my book and this shop like this is so cool. This is like actually Honestly, with this little parking lot, I think I can do it. And that says a lot. So, I think I think we should just let this cool open.

You're amazing. Thank you so much. Anybody else? If there's nobody else from the audience, Mr. I did get an email from somebody who would like an email read into the record. That's okay. Okay. It's entitled, it's title is in support of the quilt shop. Dear village planning commission, I am writing with great enthusiasm in support of the new quilt shop in town. I am very anxious for this shop to open. I am a seamstress here in Holly and I am so excited to have not only a new local business but one that directly impacts my treasured hobbies. My understanding is the quilt shop is participating in the Michigan shop hop. As a seist who has participated in the shop hop around the state, I can share with personal experience the number of people I have seen coming into small towns to hop from shop to shop. The folks who take part in this in these shop hops visit not only the quilt shops but also explore the towns they visit, dining, purchasing fuel, visiting other small businesses, etc. The Shop Hop is good for the entire local community and its economy. Additionally, with the closure of the national chain fabric store, this new shop will keep shopping local and support small businesses right here in our community. The closest quilt shops to Holly are in How and Heartland. I'm looking forward to shopping at the quilt shop ASAP. Sincerely, Sue Miller. Holly. Thank you. Anybody else? the everything's been presented uh to it. So, is there any other staff comments

that comments that needs to be discussed? Is there irrigation? So just so that it does know that you have great job by the way that it is al that that needs to be maintained if things were to die out or whatever is something Do we have a recommendation or motion regarding this? I want to make sure we've got all of the parts here. Um, yeah, I'm looking at it and making sure before I start talking that we that I've got them all kind of outlined here. Um uh I make the motion to approve the site plan for the Holly Quilt Shop located at 107 Thomas Street. um job ID 25-020 um which is also where's

our go find that sheet in the middle of all this um property ID IH0124101004 um with the following um conditions as part of the motion for approval. Um that the applicant secures the variances for the loading zone size and the parking lot aisle width. Um that um the planning commission waves um the five foot wall requirements um and accepts a five foot vinyl fence. Um uh and um that we also wave the required trash enclosure standards and that we um acknowledge the proposal conforms um to the majority of the village design standards majority um to apply to um a commercial zoning location. Um and the applicant will sign an agreement acknowledging um that additional storm water measures could be required if the measure approved as part of the site plan are not sufficient. Um, and the plans be reviewed prior to construction um to incorporate the comments on the letter dated May 8th, 2025 by Doug Scott of Row Professional Services. Second. Roll call, please. Yes.

Lacy. Yes. Wallace. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. All right. So, you have your preliminary approval regarding the application and site plan review. However, you do need to obtain the variance. with that said, thank you very much. And just for a matter of I wanted that Mr. Campbell left early for reasons moving on to item number 10 in the uh agenda. That action item. All right, going on to reports. CDA I don't believe we have any DA on there. Okay. U DA comments for that direction. Uh DDA did uh meet and they have uh the new business two new business items were postponed until the uh attorney looks at the language for them. Um they're having the election of the officers in the June meeting and there was a little bit of discussion from some of the people that uh there was some issues with the Battle Alley for the Holly Hotel. Um even though it's up for sale that they should still make sure that it's maintained

around there and cleaned. And then also they mentioned about on May 31st, this Saturday, there is a plant swap in Crapo Park. And I am not sure what exact time it is. Oh, okay. Nine o'clock. Okay. So, that was it. Thank you. All right. Council, Mr. Chairman. Um, so yesterday there was a D meeting I was not able to attend. It was just a public meeting but essentially uh watch the video. So that will be interesting. Tomorrow night there's a special assessment meeting. So I encourage everyone to come out to that. Um the short of it is village doesn't have money as indicated earlier. I believe the proposal that is public meeting will be five years special assessment at 4.75 mills. So that'll be just for the entire village and then for police services um fire and fire and fire I I never forget about sorry about that. Um and just touching on this Eye brought up earlier I know talking with Mr. our village manager, he has made a point to talk about training and we talked previously about bringing people in. So there's nothing on the agenda. That's something that he is very interested in doing. So um hopefully that can happen any promises or anything like that, but it does sound like something he is interested in exploring and trying to figure out how we can make sure we're doing our job right.

question five year or so assessment if that's for the police and fire. Okay. And this just for equipment or personnel. Yes, it's we have the Here comes the microphone. There we go. I'll uh I'll I'll do my the village manager comments right now for it because you know obviously that's ongoing cost versus what's coming out of the general fund now. So it's so it's a special suspect under public act 33 which would be an adalorum and so it's for police and fire services. So, it's not just for equipment, it's for police and fire services. And really what we're doing with that is using that as because as we mentioned and actually I was just write finishing up a budget document that council asked me to write as like kind of more of an informative document to inform the community. If you didn't have a chance to watch our budget work sessions on April 26, May 3rd, I I know you want to watch six hours of us talking about the budget, but they're on YouTube. You can watch them. the first hour we kind of talk about like the situation we're in, how we got here and um and the deficit that we're at. The deficit uh a lot of it I'm not going to go into the full thing. If you want to watch it, you can watch it. I'll have a PDF, you know, cheat sheet for everyone too pretty soon. Um but, uh it's really a in my opinion and I think if you look at the the past audits and all the things we've worked on, it's a revenue problem. expend problem and that's due to that our millillage has not been adjusted since 1982. So for like 43 years we have not we in 1982 we established we want to that this is the amount that we need to pay in order to maintain our village and because of headly roll backs in proposal A which

passed in 1994. we have not been able to roll back our military in order to for to do our uh our services. And so because of that, essentially since 2017, uh the village has ran at a deficit and quite a big deficit to cover our services. And we're going to use this, we're hoping to use, if it gets passed, this uh public act 33 special assessment in order to in the short term until we determine a long-term solution, we're working on those right now to cover that deficit. Um, and because our two biggest expenses are our police services, which is about $1.7 million, and our fire services, which are is about $900,000. And I know that sounds like a lot, but if we look at like Springfield, uh, Charter Township, who has a similar setup as us, um, they have they they contract out nine officers from Oakland County to do it. $3.8 million is how much they're going to pay. And like our officers are there within a few minutes if you need something. Uh the fire department uh if you live out in the township, you pay four mills uh for Nakva and that equates to about 1.2 million of what they're paying for the that service and our officers are there. And not only that, but he also brings us back about 220,000 of cost recovery. So like we are living lean and we're trying to do as much as we can uh on the budget we have, but honestly it just hasn't worked out. it hasn't been enough for what we need to do. Um, all our budget documents are out there. I'm showing you my checkbook. You know, trying to be as transparent as possible and I'll continue to do so uh tomorrow and in the future and I'm willing to have any kind of discussions on that. Uh, I also wanted to talk about what Cherylyn had mentioned earlier if that's all right as well. Um, you know, so small staff, I mean, our the person that's laying for this is our fire chief. We contract out our planning services and I'm basically a oneman shop as far as the village

manager type work. So our eyes eyes and ears for a lot of this ordinance stuff is the planning commission. So when you see issues that issues with the ordinances that need to be updated, make a note and then you know like I say I would recommend especially like as we are going through this you know quarterly uh you know you know maybe every six months we get together and we talk about those and see what ordinance need to be updated and then we like start working on those and you know get Amy involved and say what what needs to happen to bring this to council in order to make updates to modernize because yeah we've seen a lot of issues even you know she's been helping us out she's a tremendous asset and we uh I'm really glad that she's on board with us. So that's all I have to say. So thank you. Thank you. So did that answer your question? All of that. Okay. Anything else? No, sir. All right. U commission I believe uh anything fireworks or heard July 3rd. on the third is that the I'm sorry the fireworks are on the 3 of July instead of the 4th of July this year and next year they will also be on the third as part of commission is put that out there. All right, moving on to commissioner and staff comments. Angel, I don't have anything further. Thank you. Um I'll talk on behalf of the Chamber of Commerce just for a moment again. Uh we have our first big for the season uh summer season coming uh before our next meeting. Uh Saturday, June 21st will be our food truck rally concert uh up at Holly Foods. June 21st. Yes. Yes. About

four weeks from today or this past weekend. Um and uh we are shifting just a little bit because One of the items that came before us not too long ago was the Scooters coffee shop. Uh they're supposed to begin construction soon. And so the fireworks tent will be where our food truck rally was. Okay. And so we are claiming the old law and garden section. Okay. Um uh I think it could work pretty good. I've talked with Hillary about um some possible uh volunteers to help clean it up a little bit and um so the band that is coming you you will want to come and hear this band. It is um it is the Stardusters. Um they are a 20 plus piece big band swing style band. Um if you know um uh Suzanne Hyple, her husband David is in that band. Okay. And so um they have been named um band of the year through a couple of things um battle of the band stuff in uh in Clarkston for a couple of years. And so bring your dancing shoes and and and your hunger for food trucks. And your chairs if you want to sit. Yes. And bring your own lawn chairs to sit. Yep. Thank you.

I don't have anything. Thank you. So, um, American Legion, we have a check now in hand from our insurance company after all this time. You can believe that it looks so good. So, they, uh, Serpro actually has been fronting some of the money for us without even being paid. So, that was very nice of them to uh, actually do that. Um, there were some delays and uh, we're thankful to have a check in hand. Um, one item for today, it was mentioned about gelopated buildings coming into town. I think the way I look at it is our job is to make sure the gelopated buildings get improved upon. So, I think there is some instances where we can say yes, we can put a variance to that. No, we can't. I think that the stuff we can, we just need to stick to and then make sure we elevate our our community up for our kids and neighbors. Thank you. I just like to welcome Amy. I apologize for not introducing her uh previously. I've been working with her since February. So, uh I'm kind of used to that, but I do apologize. Uh Alex um was a great resource, but I'm excited at what Amy has to offer. So, uh with that, we are working on capital improvement. We are looking at the ordinances codification and as I promised year after year RC is a resource that we're desperately going to lean on for some of those improvements with ordinances and codifications. more to come with that. I guess some questions I have regarding business, right?

That property is industrial. It is industrial. Yes sir. They are using their equipment on the street and actually railroad tracks. They've been equil And there's no barriers for them. So that question that is still in uh it's actually at the county level. Okay. Uh no it had to go back for the drain um connection at Dollar General. parking lot uh and then had to get approved with some easement regulations. Uh I can tell you all the easements are signed, but the fire department uh we're just waiting for that to be signed uh by administration and we should see some deliveries really quickly. They're chomping at the bit. They're excited. They're ready to go. Uh the drain commission at Oakland County has probably postponed them six heavy months, but I can tell you we've been in contact at least every another week if not more on progress and trying to expedite this project. Comments. I am so sorry I had to leave segment two

driver second session. We got two days. So I apologize for all that. I hope you passed because I was going to vote yes. Oh, it was beautiful. Your shots are awesome. I've seen the outside. It looks so much better than this old ugly picture. So, and that's very good. And no, nothing else. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry for interrupting coming back, but you come back just in case. I'm sorry again. Anything that's been discussed, you have any questions about welcome to speak again or anything else that may be on your mind. Do you want your shot back? That's Cherylyn. Three.