City Council - workshop

good evening welcome to our work meeting on this special council meeting for Tuesday the 11th we start with item 1.1 review of this agenda we have closed right we have some closed items if we get through work we can start some closed items here the rezone 11.1 that applicant I will say tomorrow night we have retreat and taxation here, but we will not be doing dinner. So, because we're starting a little bit later, so the assumption is bring, eat before you come. There we go. Okay, 1.2, future agenda items. I keep forgetting the last couple of meetings. It's been a community year.

The extra space, storage, place. but we never followed up on the gate. I'll say it's been nearly a year. What do we do about the gate? So we just bring it back.

Can we send that letter? Send that letter after council. We're just waiting for a second person to add it to the agenda.

I don't know.

I'll tie it to the agenda. I mean, it seems like it's time for our October sounds great. Love October.

That way we'll have everything through September.

No, you're perfectly fine. That was a great email, by the way.

Okay, I will say I do have one. There's a medical provider that has reached out and wants to provide free services. Do they need permanent space, or are they going to set up and take down? I could get more details. I mean, it's a service that we hear a lot about out here, honestly, from a lot of our people. They're working through the LDS Church, and they've pointed them our direction. Again, they do everything they do. I mean, we can limit them to one, but they would do up to two. And there's a group called My Hometown that comes and feeds them lunch during the day. So really, there's truly no zero cost of the city.

Okay.

So it's with Sean Marchant, so we can give him more details of the request I had.

Do you want to just have me get in contact with them?

Do you want to look at it? Yeah.

I mean, I can... I told him we'd hear him out. That is a cool new space we have over there now. I don't know if it'll get used a lot during the day.

Yeah, we'll see.

Again, I'm not advocating one way or another. This is new to me, so I'd like to understand more about it. But it's not a new decision.

Just one thing, part of that is, I thought I saw a fee scheduled for the 27th, so is that in place yet? No, it's coming back to you on August 29th. What's the next meeting? 27th.

The next meeting.

No, 27th is going to be the 26th.

Whatever, the next meeting. Whatever it is. Yeah, it's on the agenda for that. The policy. So then we'll move on to 1.3, council discussion of future citizen recommendations. We'll mention, just maybe mention, I don't think we'll bring it up. We are sending flowers. Mike Day, former council member Mike Day's son, passed away in that helicopter. Okay, we'll go to our administrative reports. We'll start with 2.1.

I appreciate it. Thanks for a few minutes. I don't get to make you here often enough, and maybe that's to your benefit. But paid parental leave is a hot benefit right now. We're seeing more and more employers offering this, and I have a request to look and to see what we're doing versus what other cities are doing, and does it make sense for us to look at our policy, the parental leave behind it? So first of all, what are we doing? One of the great benefits that we do have is we do have short-term disability. This provides employees up to 60% of their wages, and it could be for their own personal illness, but it can also cover birth of a child. So the birthing parent could receive up to six weeks 60% of their wages for short-term disability depending on how the birth process works and any medical complications that may come along with it. So that helps a lot cover, at least gives them a few weeks and not utilize necessarily all their sick time. We do offer 96 hours per week of accrued sick time that employees can use and accrue and that can be used for their time off to take care of a child, of a newborn baby or adoption or things they need to do with that. And then we have the Family Medical Leave Act. This is a federal law. This provides parents up to 12 weeks of protected leave to take care of a newborn baby or adoption or similar. But it is unpaid. So it protects their jobs, but it is unpaid. Hence why we have some of these other benefits to help cover the paid leave. But the question is, is that enough? We're starting to see cities, surrounding cities around us, saying that they want to offer additional paid time off parental leave benefits. So our cities that we work with, maybe our cities that are competitors, we are seeing that they do offer that benefit, paid parental leave. So this is for either fathers or mothers. You can see that the majority are, it's kind of that two week period. West Valley's at four weeks, state of Utah's up to six weeks, depending on the situation. geared a little bit more toward the birthing parent or usually the mother for up to the six weeks. The father's usually up to more like three weeks.

What's the X versus check mark?

Okay, short-term disability. So these are cities that also offer short-term disability or not. So that's one of our better benefits. Not necessarily everybody offers that, but we are starting to see more and more cities offer that benefit as well. There's a couple that don't, but you can see the ones that do versus the ones that don't. So what would my recommendation be? As we start to see what other cities give, to kind of be in the mean, I think, of where other cities are, I'd like to propose 80 hours of parental leave and a rolling year. So a lot of people say, well, what about two weeks? Well, with short-term disability, 80 hours actually will cover birthing parents further down the road, because they're only covering 40% of their time off utilizing these additional hours. So fathers would still kind of be in that two-week, or the non-birthing parent would still be in that two-week or 80 hours continuous, but the birthing mother or the birthing parent would have a little bit of additional benefits with that short-term disability. With the policy, how I would recommend rolling this out is keep it in line with FMLA. So FMLA has a requirement that an employee needs to be with the employer for 12 months, 1,280 hours, 1,250 hours to be eligible for the FMLA federal protection. So something we could talk about is does this benefit, could this benefit start day one going outside what FMLA would provide. I'd like to be able for the parents to use within the first 12 months of when the baby was born. That way we don't have to track and extend it out too long. Make sure that it's not an accrued benefit. There's no payout if someone leaves us. It's not necessarily a guarantee. It is a benefit. Not intermittent means they can't use it in one or two hours or two-day chunks at a time. It would have to be kind of a continuous situation up to the 80 hours just for tracking and ease and for scheduling. That makes it quite a bit different or quite a bit easier. So what is the impact? What does this kind of look like? I don't foresee necessarily a budget amendment. I don't think it's going to impact necessarily the bottom line of the budget. of the budget or the cost. But I think we will lose some productivity, of course, with employees being out for up to those 80 hours, where it might put a little strain on departments. There's going to have to be extra coverage. People are going to have to step in a little bit more from time to time. I do foresee employees taking off that two weeks and maybe additional time to utilize that benefit and be able to have time to bond with their newborn baby. Right now we're seeing, so I took out the past five years, we have about six baby births per staff per year. But this year has been a little bit higher. I think we're already up to about five this year. So this year could be a little bit higher. Benefit, I definitely see a benefit to this. It can differentiate us as a competitive in the labor market. It's recruiting and retention. Reduces turnover after a major life event for that placement of the baby, baby being born. Provides a little bit more security to the parent to be able to feel comfortable having that time to bond with their baby versus utilizing their sick time if they have sick time. Sometimes it takes them that strain off. New parents gives them time to stabilize, maybe get their childcare in order, and hopefully can also lower absenteeism and presenteeism. The parent comes back too early, sometimes they're not engaged yet. They're worried about things that are going on at home. So that's what I kind of see as some of the impact and also some of the benefit. But I'm open to thoughts, concerns, suggestions on a policy like this.

So in the, I guess the draft act, so to speak, it looks like that this would be able, both part-time and full-time employees would be able to take this benefit?

So benefit eligible employees. So part-time is 20 hours plus. The reason we have to keep it to that is because URS, if we get benefits below employees with 20 hours, we have to start paying into URS on their behalf. So that's where kind of that 20 hours aligns well.

I was just taking the, what, 1,250 hours dividing it by the 52. It's like 24 hours a week.

Yep, so I think they'd still have to be eligible for that FMLA time. How many people do we have in that That's a super part-time category. Four. Not very many.

So how would this work with disability? And then did you say disability only applies to the birth parent?

Yes. So because it's tied into the medical side of things, it would be for the birth parents. So short-term disability covers 60% of your wages up to the determined amount. For pregnancy, it can be up to six weeks. So then it leaves the employee covering that other 40% with either sick time, which we currently have, or if this was adopted, we'd utilize those 80 hours.

And stretch the disability longer? Mm-hmm. Would it be longer than two weeks?

Technically, yes. If you utilize short-term disability plus the 80 hours, it would be about five or six weeks.

Thank you for doing this. I appreciate you looking into it. It was really important to me. I have a couple other questions. So it says on there, like, you could be deemed ineligible if you're not returning. But are you allowed to ask if someone's returning or not?

So FMLA does allow, if we are aware that an employee would not be returning afterwards, we do not have to offer them FMLA protection or benefit coverage. But asking them is a very gray situation. They'd have to almost come forth and say, I'm not coming back.

Okay. Because if you're saying, well, we're not going to give it to you because you're not coming back, would that kind of be gray too then?

I think if they bring forth that they are not coming back for this reason or that reason, then I think we'd have protections there. But I think if we are asking them and trying to extract that information, I think that's where the gray area is. I like the what if puzzles. Sorry.

You can go to the end of this round. So what if? have a baby, they're out for say the two weeks and they don't come back or they do the six weeks of disability and they just don't come back but they applied for those benefits but they didn't come back.

What can we do? FMLA doesn't allow us to, let's say in this case they'd also be eligible for the health insurance for that time. We have to cover them during their FMLA time. we can't go back and collect that money. So I would assume this would probably follow suit there. And there will be some that will take advantage of it, but we haven't seen that very often at all.

And then just a couple things about timing. I think the use within 12 months, I think that's kind of long. I think you could shorten that to three months or six months. But I'd be curious to see how you feel like that would be received And then the 12 month window for eligibility, I would be okay with shortening that too because even if someone's only been there six months, if they left because maybe there's a medical complication or something, you're still losing all that training time. And so I'd be curious to see what the rest of the council thinks about that. And then just it mentions something about how people could abuse this. What kind of cases of abuse would you think that maybe could occur?

Again, almost like what Jared brought up, that someone might extend their time here just to collect those medical benefits and collect all their pay, when in reality they have no intention of coming back. That's about the only one.

They wait until the child's almost a year to leave it with Grandma, and then they go on vacation. It's a mess. It's a mess. Different bonding, still probably good for the kid, ultimately, but yeah. That would be an argument against the 12-month.

Yeah, to short, like, the short. So the interesting thing with the 12 months, that's actually what FMLA allows employees to do. So if you have a baby, technically you can wait practically a year and then take your 12 weeks off at the end of that. Now, I've never seen that. Right, the benefit is unpaid. I've never seen that. But it wouldn't restrict us from.

move on with it. I agree with you on that one. I'm not opposed to the 12 months though. Up to 12 months? Up to 12 months of usage, yeah. Because you look at any complications or medical issues with a child, it could be 12 months of surgeries and weekends off or days off and that's the other tough thing with like chunking it out, but I don't know.

A question that I, you know, and feel free to just jump in from an administrative point of view. When we look at this, we're not necessarily looking at it like it's not costing us a bunch of salary, right? It's just like the productivity of that, but what, from your perspective, what's the cost of that?

There is a cost, a future cost really, because if they used vacation time in that, in lieu of this, and then they left, you'd pay out the vacation. So there is some, there is a cost. It's not really necessarily a budgetary cost. In the budget, like, oh, we're going to be over budget because of this. Because it would just be a paid time off. Right.

There is a situation, though, and I'm thinking of police, where if they have to backfill a shift, they're having to pay overtime for that, which they may or may not have the budget for. In the smaller departments it really is like my department if I lost a person I would be the one as the exempt employee doing the work so we have seen that with some longer leaves in the city too.

We also deal with this with FMLA itself.

I would suggest there's a cost to not doing it and that's like a culture cost and like being in the city like my city cares about me about my mental health and my physical health And, like, there's a benefit that's there because they care about me as a whole person. And I think two weeks is just not that much. So... I agree. I think it's something you do for retention and for goodwill, but also just because we're good humans.

Well, I think... I look at the one employee that we recently, right, I think that drove this. We could have lost... I mean, there's a chance we... And that's a... There's a cost to that, losing an employee that... But we don't offer this benefit, you know, but... And I think I looked at my wish, you got six months off, right? And that's the private, I mean, that's a private, but we are competing for private employees in that space. And I think two weeks is a pretty minimal. Really, I think that's a pretty low, I mean, that's, and what's out there right now in this space, we're pretty, I mean. When you combine it with the other benefits like you. 100%, that's why I think it's pretty affordable.

It's easy to do. Do you want to wind to the 12 months to six months?

What about eligibility? I don't know. Like, do you think someone should have to be here for 12 months to be able to be eligible for this?

What's the other benefits? What's the other benefits?

I don't know that you could... Yeah, health benefits day one, right?

Pretty much, 30 days, pretty much.

One challenge is we wanted a continuous block. That's not really going to work for ongoing benefits. They could use FMLA for that.

I like that then.

Six and six?

Or six and three? I like that. Thank you for the feedback. If there's stuff you see that doesn't fit, bring it back as it needs to fit within the HR guidelines. Then we'll understand and we'll adjust. I think you'll know what we're getting towards.

One more request. If there's other places where we're not Because we're growing from a small state to a niche.

Brett's been beaten up lately. He needs some good news.

Please feel free to reach out if there are projects that you would like to see on here that are not on there. Or you can tell me if you don't want to see them on there. And I'll happily agree.

Going to the sales tax. This is a word question that doesn't matter, Nathan, at all. Is 65,000 city of the second class?

Is that the number and who? Yes. So you go off the state's official one, so we're still 63-2.

Do they just kick that in when that happens then?

I don't know how that... It doesn't do anything anymore. I mean, it doesn't matter. Other than we have to designate an auditor, but there's nothing that says what that auditor does. Oh, okay. Because right now, that auditor is Jackie in a city of the third class.

Okay.

There used to be a lot more distinction, and that all got stripped out several years ago.

Would you be interested in being an auditor of a second class?

I would prefer not. It calls it out in there, but there's nothing that really defines what they do. And it says, Jackie, this is what I asked. That's the only thing I've seen that's really different. in a city of the second class. We should be pretty close. I think first, second, third, all the laws have been applying in that realm recently. But there may be some laws that apply to just first and second. We'll have to look. I mean, I hate to say we're second class city. I don't believe that. I don't think we're third class, but That's a state of Utah thing, so. Second class.

Second class.

You should get, so I think our official population, it's always the July before, but we're at 63 something. That was our last number, so we'll see. We did have, last year was probably one of our slower building, So I should say that. Number of units, housing units built last year was lower than previous years. Or not last year, two years ago, which it kind of lags. Last year was pretty good, and then this year right now is trending pretty high. Yeah, we just got permits for the commons, so they'll

report, so that's 200 units.

So that'll change the numbers. Because your July one's going to be pretty low. It was actually really slow in July. Everybody was on vacation. So it's 4,000 degrees. July was the slowest month of the year. So yeah, we'll be the second class. I don't know, does that mean we change which Caucus we go to when we go to the league. I was trying to figure out why I can't ask you something. Because I know they have the first class, and I think we've been in the other group. We may have to switch rooms that we go sit down. Love it. Okay. Thanks, Trevor. Appreciate it.

Your problems automatically are different.

Automatically, yes. It's like when you turn 21. Like the night before, you're 18. You're a teenager and you don't know anything until you're 18. You're an adult and you're good. The same thing with this.

Plan a party for us then. That's what it sounds like. Let Lauren, we have one more, we have another party.

About the time we kicked out of the parents' basement when we turned 26 and off their insurance, here we are in the city.

Okay, perfect. Okay, we'll go to 2.3, quarterly capital projects update. Bryce. Bryce.

Yeah, so we'll put up the map, but yeah, the updates for all the projects are in there. And we'll just highlight a couple. So Kerman Boulevard Extension has begun construction starting on that to extend from where it dead ends now out to the U-111 project. That U-111 project is a UDOT project.

progress there. It was like holy crap. I was at Bacchus and what is it South Jordan Parkway where it connects and they were yeah it was they had like 20 dump trucks out there with asphalt.

I hadn't been out there for a while. I had to drive out to Copperton to see someone.

Yeah they're going quick I think November is their estimated. Yeah so there's supposed to be

And then 6000 West, widening is still ongoing. They got most of, well, all of their intersection work done in the last couple weeks before school started, so they pushed to get that all done in the intersection of Harriman Boulevard. Obviously, there will still be impacts going south of Harriman Boulevard all the way to Silver Sky Drive. And that's ongoing.

I'm super painful, but every time I drive by, I'm like... I feel like I've never been so happy to see construction shut down this big.

Yeah, it is painful, and we know there's been some detours and whatnot that have been, you know, impactful to the public. But for the most part, the contractor's done a good job of keeping people safe as far as in and out of the work zone.

I love you. I have many complaints about it. It seems like they communicate things well. This stuff you guys have sent us to help.

Yeah, we've got a semi rolling through our neighborhood right now. It's really weird to follow a semi through the neighborhood. But still not hearing. They're quiet.

I think they're all back. So that's also supposed to be completed in November. So they've done sewer, they've done storm drain, they're working on secondary water, and then they've got a few culinary water adjustments. Not a whole new line, but a little bit of culinary. Then they'll start working on roadway. Okay. Yeah, and then you've probably seen if you've been on Mountain View down by Academy and Real Vista, Real Vista slash Juniper Crest, those arms are up, not active. We're still waiting on power, so Rocky Mountain Power has to power those up. But we're looking good to, you know, by the end of August, hopefully that'll be active and ready to go. The panorama project is shooting to also pave Juniper Crest by the end of August so that we could open it all up by the end of August is the goal. Now, there are a few unknown variables that may impact that, but that's the goal right now is to have it all open by the end of August.

So, my birthday is August 28th.

Sounds like another party. Yeah, we'll have our ribbon cut. So that's the goal.

What about landscaping? We talked about that this morning.

Yeah, so I actually talked to DAI today, and they are working on some water connections right now. That's kind of their... the focus to get water to the site. But then, yeah, they said that's the next thing they're jumping on. So we didn't get a clarification on when that means it'll be done. They said, yes, that's the next thing we're jumping onto. So there might, we did like went out and looked and just made sure like the park strip and everything wasn't full of weeds. It is, you know, further back, but right where the trail that they put in is not, you know,

blocking the way or anything so we did that with the school starting up in mind making sure the kids weren't going to have to walk through all the weeds so the trail's pretty clear but yeah we'll push like the last we had the landscaping was going to try to get completed by the by november I'm hoping that they stick to that. Planting stuff right now would not be the right idea. The MDA required them to tie in the road, and they have to have the water connection. So the landscaping wasn't... It was required in the MDA, but there was no date. I think it can lag, so it could come in in spring, but we're hoping it'll fall. I'd rather have it survive. Of course we would do that. Doesn't say we haven't.

Yeah, no date on it.

So, and then one other, the athletic complex, you guys got an update not too long ago. We're working with, you know, phasing it and implementing phases into the design so that if we do get the funds that have been recommended to us that we can, you know, hit the ground running with a phase one project, you know. And if all goes well, we would anticipate going to bid in January sometime for that phase one if all the funding falls into place as we hope. Yeah, any other questions, other items to discuss?

I'll just say the main street medians look really nice. Every time I checked down, I thought, this looks really nice.

Yeah, it did end up looking very well.

A little better than grass, that's for sure.

Yeah, and we're not watering the pavement anymore. That was one of the problems with the old spray irrigation. It would all get onto the road and then cause issues with the road. We'll see how this winter goes with those. patches and replacements.

Yeah. This isn't necessary for this discussion, but as I scroll through here, you and I have talked about this. We need to revisit the pansy home thing. Yeah, we had a discussion. Is this really worth doing?

There's a lot of activity there with teenagers and unwanted activity at the moment, so they're enforcing more.

I'm here for your other discussions, but I'd be curious, like, What are the pros and cons about different options for it besides spending a lot, a lot of money?

We haven't talked about O and M, the purpose. I've always had kind of just an issue with it, but as I keep looking at it, I'm like, those costs keep going up. We haven't talked about operating operations and maintenance. It's a really priority to spend a lot of money. So maybe just we can circle back on that.

it's somewhat starting to come up and probably should bring it back just in a working session and talking through what you want to do.

I'd be interested to, I mean, I've been here for 18 years, but I don't know how much these pioneer roots, like, if there's going to be, like, how much community investment there is in painting and how

a couple other ones that have much more historical significance that we've sent out too. So I think that's the discussion we should probably have.

You want to talk about Gina Road at all? I'll provide you the opportunity. I'd be amiss if I didn't provide you the opportunity. Yeah, I was waiting for that, actually. Like, I was going to leave you in suspense thinking that, you know, we're just going to let that slide.

Yeah, so we're almost done with right-of-way acquisition, but there are two properties that we're still not quite there on. One of them is just boundary, you know, figuring out they thought they're – boundary was somewhere else where we did so we've kind of gone back and forth doing research with our surveyor so that one's hopefully we get them there I think we've got enough research to show them hey this is why the property line is where it is and then the other one is just more of a money issue they want more money than is market value for the property but they also want improvements so we're trying to work that one out

Are we given a deadline on when negotiations end?

So, not necessarily. We've given these two property owners what we call a four options letter that basically says, One of the options is we keep negotiating and come to a deal, but we're at a point where we might have to go to eminent domain. We might have to go to mediation. So there's four options for them from here. So far, we haven't felt like we've hit a brick wall where we just can't work with them anymore, and that's usually where we would come to council and say, let's consider eminent domain. At what point do we hit that? down to two properties so yeah I mean we're probably we're not months away we might be a month away right yeah that's that's how it feels obviously you know we've been strung along before so it's not it could take longer than that but yeah we feel like we're getting to a place where we have to can make a deal with both of these now that could change and yeah tomorrow we hear from them and they just say no we're We disagree with where you're at, and yeah, that would mean we'd be coming to council to discuss the possibility of a minute domain on those properties.

We do have to follow this process.

deadline with that well yeah so we're kind of past the point of building the road this year right so yes we could you know say okay we're gonna give them ten days but really at this point we're probably bidding late fall wind and into winter and getting a contractor to late winter spring summer of next you just want to put it up too long so if you have to go that route it's not easy

Well, this is me thinking out loud. As far as the timing of all of that, I would like to, if possible, even if it might be too late now, to have that process played through to where the beginning of spring... whatever process we have to go through as soon as weather allows that we're working on it. Do we have other maintenance treatments that we need to do before then?

So I don't know. I think we did the one this year. Well, so we did it last year, and we were about to do it again this year, and a bunch of the residents came out and said we don't want you to spray the road, so they canceled the treatment on it. They're not unified.

We're to the point now where we're going to push through to the end, right?

Yeah, right. Yeah, exactly. We haven't designed 90% design. We'll just make a few adjustments if there's any, you know, negotiation adjustments.

Well, I think that's when we decide to come back and say, okay, we're going to have to just do this.

It's just been coming under my breath that this is Groundhog Day for, what, the last 10 years? I feel like we've had this exact same conversation. It's not that hard. It's been 13, 14 years. It's like, I'm free now. Well, he's gone, so there's always another head that pops up. There's always one.

We can talk about flybots or cheetahs.

For what it's worth, they were just pushing

any other projects.

Thanks. Appreciate it, Ray. And hats off to you for the way the meeting went with the M line. Oh, thank you. I know that's not on here.

When do we anticipate putting those improvements in? Yeah, so we're anticipating October. We are, I went to a meeting with Jordan Valley and they have their Rosecrest Pipeline project going on right now but part of their project comes up into Emmeline to get up to their tank which is just behind the Emmeline Park where we met and they just ran into a problem today on Crown Rose so We just need a little bit more confirmation on their schedule. We have two options, which is install most of the traffic control devices and stuff that we were planning on and leave out the area where they're going to come up and rip up the intersection and tear up the road for their pipeline. If that's the case, then we would like to do that in the next month or so. When we found out that they would be done by the end of September, we said we would just wait until October and install it all at once so we have one clean project. But they just ran into a conflict with our water line that may delay them. So we're figuring that out right now, I guess. What's up with the water line?

Our water line. Water line's not quite where we thought it was.

So I guess I would say, personally, if we're going to push past that, I think we need to get away in what we can right away.

Yeah, and we're, Wendy, John, and Chief, we all met. today to discuss kind of communication plan moving forward so one how to notify if it's going to be a little bit longer before we install but also how to how to take feedback and i think i agree with the mayor if they're going to delay it we should just do what we can and then tell people we'll get the other part yeah i think so i think that's the way we're leaning we just need to see how much of this conflict is going to be a delay if it's not then we can move I mean, if it is going to be a delay, yeah, we'll go ahead and implement it sooner rather than later and just hold off on kind of the end treatments there at that spot. Are we self-installing with streets? Yeah, yes, we are.

So when you met with them at the meeting, did you tell them October?

Yeah, so we said there's this, well we didn't say October exactly, we said there is this water line project that's going right through our project, the traffic control project, or traffic calming project, and so we were we didn't have a date yet, but that we were going to try and figure that out and get that information out.

Most of them were excited about just something happening. Sure.

So I got a follow-up email from one of the residents, and he was saying, like, he would love for the stuff to be in before Jennifer Crest connects, anticipating that M Line will be a road that people take to get to Mountain View Corridor. So part of the communication plan might be, like, we are looking at later than maybe you could have originally interpreted. And so if that's helpful, and then his other thing was just like not a one and done conversation, which I think we're open to, like as part of piloting something is seeing how it works. I also responded by saying that there will not be a perfect solution for this world, right? But we do all that we can and keep monitoring it.

I think a lot of that was pretty clear, so since I may have missed some of the conversation, because we talked about website or webpage for feedback and continual communication, so I think we're on the right path there.

Thank you.

Okay, thanks, Bryce. Okay, that brings us to the close of our work meeting, so I will pull out our little, that's already ready, let's do it. Seems like you guys made it.

I take a motion to temporary recess. City Council meeting will go into closed meeting for the following purposes as provided by Utah State Code Annotated 52-4-205. Discussion of the character professional competence or physical or mental health of an individual Strategy sessions to discuss pending or reasonable imminent litigation Strategy sessions to discuss the purchase exchange or lease of real property or to discuss a proposed development agreement project proposal or financing proposal related to the development of land owned by the city Second.

Second by Teddy. Jared?

Yep.

Teddy? Yes. Matt? Yep. Eric? Yes. We're going to close.