Public Works Committee - Regular Meeting

He cares very much what he looks like. All right. Thank you. All right. We're going to go ahead and call the public works committee meeting uh for May 27th to order. Um I just need if there's no objection, we'll go ahead and move I mean we'll just accept the agenda because there's not much on it tonight. Thank goodness. Um but I do need our item. Um is there is there a problem with the acceptance of the agenda hearing? None. We'll move right along to the minutes. I need a motion. Motion. All right. Second. And there's been a motion and a proper second for the approval of April 22nd meeting minutes. Uh any uh additions or corrections on it? Hearing none. Is everybody ready to vote? All in favor of the approval signify by saying I. I. All oppose. It passes unanimously. Uh there are no citizens comments this evening because actually it's a quiet night. Guess everybody's getting ready for the budget. There are no citizens here this evening. Um we're um and there are no ordinances or resolutions uh on the agenda for this evening. So we're moving right along. Uh we'll go to other agenda items and that is our trash collection update. Not much to report. Um the misses have reported misses have been pretty low. Our average is less than 10 reported per day. Um, and then today, the day after a holiday, we did not have very many reported misses at all. I was very surprised. So, the communications are getting out, which is great news. Super. Any anybody have any issues with this ration? I didn't We didn't get any calls at all on it, so I was very pleased with that. Um, uh, Alderman Robertson, do you have anything on the track? that uh after the storms Friday night, there were several

trees down in W 6 and staff got on them really quick. They were there within an hour after after citizens called and so I just please thank the staff there taking care of those trees that were in the roads. Oh, thank you. All right, that was good. Um it seems like we have a storm every other day now. Yes, it does. It does. Um, I could tell you a story, but I'm not going to about a tree that fell in my yard, but it was on it was by the lake and so it was the core of engineers. And so I was just going to have our guys just not our not Well, let me back up. Not the city's people, but my own people that take care of mom's, you know, area. And I was going to have them chop it up and they said, "Leave it alone." Cuz I called them. I did the right thing. I said, "Okay, no problem." So, well, I'll wait till it gets warmer and all of a sudden, you know that it's like those deer with deer food or feed, you know, somebody's been feeding them down there. It's going to be like that tree. It's going to be gone for sure. I just have a feeling because the way that it's half in the water and half in on their property. So, I don't know. We'll see. Um, the item number two is uh the I'm not going to make the same mistake again as the path LED lights. Uh, I still laugh about that one. The conversion. Okay, go ahead. What we got? So, this is a continuation of our discussion last month. Um we were asked to get some more information about funding comparisons and some also there was a discussion of um potentially funding parks for LED as well. So um we have

William Franklin is on Zoom with us. Hello. How are you? Good to see you this evening. All right. this path. Um, I think that I may defer to I think Jesse maybe had some information about the funding portion of it. Um, but okay. Um, okay. But we requested information from NES regarding um, you know, their ratings and and what their funding might look like. They had stated they thought they would be able to share that with us, but I've followed up several times and they have not shared that information to date. So, we don't have that information as a comparison to what their rating and funding may look like compared to ours. Okay. But, um, now their funding would be them to do it uh and us to pay them. Yes. Over time. Over time. Uh, so they would take out a bond, but they would keep the lights. Now, under this proposal pass, would we take ownership of the posts or would NES still own them? They still own and maintain. So, we'd still have a monthly maintenance fee, not for the light component. So, it would be much less than what we're paying now because now we're paying a fee for pole maintenance and light maintenance. Correct. Yes. So we have um materials that we're paying on they call the plant. So what they've already done for like light replacements, things like that, not to LED, but just general maintenance that goes into the plant fee. And so that gets paid back over roughly um 20 years. They break that up. Okay. So part of what's proposed here is to pay off the plant for these. And so yes, there would be some reduction there in that invoice on top of the energy savings.

So does the proposal mayor the mayor put in his budget 2.5 million for LED light conversion and 600,000 for park LED light conversion. So is that based on what provided? Where did we come up with those numbers? Yeah, the there's 2.3 in the million 2.3 million in the budget for the street lights. Okay. And that is a number that Pat came up with. Uh recently NES has done a survey of the street lights. So, um they feel fairly confident and William you can correct me if I misstate, but uh William said they feel fairly confident because NES has recently inventory the entire city. Um the 600,000 for the parks was just a grouping of some of the LEDs uh that the park uh some lights at the park could convert to LED. There's more than 600,000 in the parks if you were to do them all at one time. Uh substantially more. Uh but the mayor put in 600,000 so that we could start just chipping away and not going into debt in the parks. And then uh I think the idea was kind of to stay out of debt and that's why there's the the infusion the uh one-time project in here for the city street lights and then shipping away at the parks. So after the after the let's say we the 600,000 is is implemented what percentage of the park lots will we have done with that amount? Will we be 50% or 60%? 15%. William, do you have that spreadsheet that shows all the park? Yeah, I think William's got an inventory of that. I do. I do. And so I'm happy to show the spreadsheet or I can just go ahead and tell you generally what it would cost to go ahead and cover all the lights. Um that 600,000 unfortunately is not going to reach frankly even 25% of them. Um I say that there might be some strategic way from a just number of

lights standpoint we might be able to increase that. But it's a substantial sports lighting budget um given to the city by Musco who's a provider of the equipment itself. But one I don't think you're including the number of LED lights we or the portion of LED lights we already have in the park. So no mayor I'm not entirely confident that we are properly accounting for it. You know what we did and and if it helps I'm happy to share something. What we did is we took a a previous budget given by Musco. Again, this is the preferred lighting manufacturer for the parks department. Um, and we would work alongside them, right? And just installing their equipment. We use their prior budgets, updated inventories from their knowledge of the system. It does not mean that that is entirely accurate though based on any other prior conversions. Do you know mayor? So, like I'm looking at a budget from December of 2024 and my understanding is this is inclusive of all lights yet to be converted. Okay. That's been significant. Yeah, that's probably accurate, but I don't know what portion we actually already have converted. So, it's a hard I'm having a hard time answering your question of where we would be throughout all of Grace Creek Park at that point. I mean, I see. Okay. Somewhere above 50% I would guess. So, can we put that as a action item to get that information uh from parks with with the 600,000? What percentage of lights in our parks will be le all our parks or districts park? All of our parks. Okay. Okay. Because most of the newer parks have led, don't they? Uh the rugby fields are LED. the uh the field at uh uh volunteer park is led. So I I'd like to be able to

understand the scope of what that gets us in the parks and I don't need to dominate. No, sure. Go ahead. It's important. So uh what percentage of lights are NES lights in the city? I know the street lights in in parts of W six are Cumberland. So, do do we know this 2.3 million how far that will get us in replacing all of our street lights? I think it's about 90%, 80%. Any It's a significant portion. I'm going to pull it up here real quick so I can give you an actual number. Yeah, it's most of them. But it it wouldn't touch the Cumberland. It doesn't That's correct. Convert Cumberland. That's right. Would it include street lights in neighborhoods that are NEES? Yes. If they're on the city's account. Correct. Understood. Yeah. Understood. Is Cumberland participating in this program or No. No. Um, no. Okay. Yeah. Our and our account with them is very different. Um, so we could work with them for them to replace um the street lights that are, you know, um, you know, just the the arm off of the pole, but the cobra head, I couldn't think of the word. Um, but the rest of them that are decorative, they don't maintain, own or retain at all. So that would be for the city to do, which we could also chip away at. So the 2.5 that's in the mayor's budget, is that included in all five of the

scenarios we're going to look at later? Yes, it is mine. It is scenario five. I'm not sure about yours and and uh Mark uh Jeff's, but it is in five. All right. Is the 2.5 coming out of general or there's a debt service? No, it's coming out of the nonoperating nonoperating our unassigned fund balance. That's when they can go to salaries and stuff. Yes. Okay. Yes. Is that right? Is that right, Jesse? Yes. Yes. So, us approving the budget, Mayor. Mhm. does not mean that we are approving LED street light conversion. That will have to be an an ordinance. Cor correct or I would I would certainly come back to this committee. The money's there but at some point we have to choose a vendor. Yes, I would come back to this committee. I feel like I can choose that vendor. We have all the time. We have we take bids on projects and Jesse and I and Sarah choose that or Jesse I and Andy Gilly. Um but a project this big I'd come back. I don't think it needs board approval. Do you think I'm wrong? No. No. I think I think it would be once the actual money passes. It's a it would be an administr I mean this is my opinion. It would be an administrative but we would off obviously I would think uh it would be an administrative issue, but I sure would appreciate you coming back just to let us know because like I was going to ask you guys what do you all know the of of your respective um well let me back up but you to answer your question and you might have some more and then

because my next question is is not related to that so I'll hold off on that but that's my opinion that you all may feel differently Um, but I don't know that you need a freestanding ordinance on that. I mean, the money's there. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So, and you've approved it. So, it would to me it'd be again an ad an administrative issue and then you just let us know with something with that kind of money. Um, I think you you're smart to tell to just let the board know what's going on. The only thing I can imagine is if we get bids back that go outside the parameters of just LED replacement. Yes, sir. I think Yeah, I think that um and William I think he has the specifics, but there's something with the LED conversion of of selecting a qualified um contractor consultant for that. You don't actually have to go to bids. Would you would you share that again, William? Sure. Absolutely. Yeah. So, there's a unique code statute in the state of Tennessee. And I say unique, it exists in every state, but the code statute in Tennessee is 124110. And it allows for projects that are are procured on the basis of energy savings, of course, which this very much falls underneath it, where you can be procured just as you would any other professional service. So if the city was to hire an engineering firm or architecture firm or a law firm to do work, you hire them based on qualifications, not on official bids, which we do administratively all the time. Yeah. Correct. And and did you say that's under TC Tennessee code annotated 124110? Is that correct? Yes, sir. I'm going to take a look at that because with that kind of money I'm I mean I believe you but I but I'd like to review that because I I honestly didn't know about that. But that's good to know. Yeah. Now the board

always has the authority to pass a resolution or to say just while we're passing the budget, we want this to come back to the board later on. At that point, I mean, I would argue that I don't have to, but I'd be foolish to not do it. Well, I'd like for it to come back because uh you know 2.3 million if that's what I thought was 2.5, but regardless, you know, uh if if budget goes south, if revenues go south, makes sense. Yeah, we we might need to sense pun on it a year. You know, I will absolutely bring it back here and take y'all's input when we get bins on it. So, uh what's his name? William. William, do you have the spreadsheet that shows our annual savings in energy cost? Could you put it on the screen? I do. Yes, sir. Give me just two seconds. I'm about to show you. Make sure I'm sharing correctly on Zoom. I have to refamiliarize myself here. So, share. You guys can see this PowerPoint. Is that accurate? Can you enlarge it? I bet I can. Let me see here. A little more for old man. Let's see. How about this? Can you see it now better? Uh, yes. Yes. Okay. Okay. So, this spreadsheet attempts to show right all the key metrics behind this project. So, that the true net cost is that 2.3 million. You can see it's actually a couple hundred dollars under that. But if you look over here on the far right hand side, you can see the savings broken down. Um, so here these are annualized numbers and these numbers are not showing the annual escalation that you will actually see from your side. But generally speaking, you're saving $100,000 on the energy component of your bill and 56,000 almost 57,000 on the investment charge. That's that portion

that Sarah had referred to talking about the plant itself. 150,000. That saves that saves operating expenses because now we pay that that higher fee in operating. So that would free up that much money in operating revenues. Correct, Jesse? Yeah. 150,000. I thought it was more than that, but Okay. If it's 16298, I'm not sure if you're able to see my mouse here. It's kind of circling the number to the right of the red box. See that? Okay. Not to substantially more than 150, but it's 160,000. Okay. So, William, you can correct me if I'm wrong, too, but Alderman Robertson, you said you thought it was about 2.5 million. And the total cost, if you can see at the bottom, it says financing amount without rebates 2.584. Um, that is because there's a rebate component of it. So um there's 284,000 in a rebates from TVA. Yes. So the cost I think net cost to us is 2.3. Okay. So from a budget perspective we would have to budget the 2.58 and then we get back $280,000 but net to us it's 2.3. So is that rebate going away with the new administration? It's currently still on the books. How much longer, I think, is debatable. And TV has been promoting it for a couple years, so I would hope they would let us know that it's in jeopardy if it's in jeopardy. And what's pushing us to this point other than the safe operational savings? Has has NES contacted us and said, "Hey, y'all got to do something." Or what what's the impetus behind this? They're planning their five-year conversion. Um it's a high priority for

NES to have all of their service area converted to LED. And so in order to plan, they're wanting to know what our plans are because we've been asking them for information off and on for a couple of years. So they know we've been talking about it. Um so for them, it's really just planning. It doesn't matter to them whether we do it or they do it because they're net zero anyways. It's just going to cost them what it's going to cost them to do the project. and it goes into the plant and they don't care but they just need to be able to plan. So my initial impetus for this was hearing going to mayor's conferences and hearing folks like PATH or folks like the different companies that put this together and them showing us that legitimately the federal government is probably going to require this in the next several years. I don't want to be out there racing against every other city. I'd rather be ahead of every other city. Um, just because I can imagine what the costs are like when businesses that do this have more have more demand than they have supply when it comes to providing these changes. So, if we don't do it, TVA is going to do it within five years. And what will be our cost? What what's the comparison of cost? Waiting five years and let NES do it. They'll put that cost on us. Will we will we see any savings when they do that? Likely not. Um we don't have those numbers because it'll just depend on what costs are at that time when they do the project. But they're going to finance it. They'll do a bond for it and then budget for it. So we'll pay their financing costs over 20 years to do the project. So I guess yes Alderman if I might add to that what you would see if you guys can still see this screen you would see a substantial drop in your energy savings when they do that but due to the fact that they're going to cover the cost your investment charge is going to skyrocket because they're going to need

to recover their costs and the net impact of that likely would be a net bill increase instead of a significant drop which you would receive now. So, can we get that information before we have to make a decision? I mean, would the staff want that information from NES or is it even possible? It's not possible. Okay. They've given us their their estimates which they say are the same as what PATH would charge us because they use PATH. They do use Path. Okay. To manage the project and then use a contract. Okay. Um let's stay on this issue uh as I mean for right now. Um any other questions on this? Mayor, do you have anything that we need to All good conversation. Okay. I was just on the calculator going over the uh list that Musco provided and it's just south of three million for the parks for all the LEDs in the parks. So, it's a substantial amount of lights in the parks. Yeah. So, the 600,000 would just be a chunk. Yeah. And then Musco gave us uh they gave us estimates. So, if we do it this year, it's x amount of dollars. Then they escalate it the next couple years. So, um just depends which year you do it, the price is going to change a little bit. But is this a priority for the parks to get this done? I haven't talked to I haven't talked to Andy, but is this a priority? Yeah. For the parks to get this done? I think the bulbs are are getting harder and harder to find replacements. So, that's one of the reasons why we at least start get started on it. We also have one fixture that's that has had two fires in the past year and a half. Fires. Fires.

Well, if we don't get the grant that we that we have put the $6 million grant, that will free up some money in the PIP account. It will for parks. So, I mean, I hope we get it. I think we get it, but hope we get it. But, but if we don't it Yeah. You know, we we're not going to do more than 600,000. Yeah. you know. Okay. All right. Anybody else? Thank you for that information. Um I was going to ask uh first of all, are we through with all that within anything else that were coming from these guys? I was going to ask you earlier and this I'm just curious like for example in in uh Alderman Burgdorf's ward and my ward both were all of us are NES what I mean that's I mean we're all straight up NES we don't have any of Cumberland in the old days when I was a alderman in war three we did but what are the percentages or do you all know for you guys like how much in like W six and two that is Carmelan versus NES what's the percentage like or do you know I know I mean I'm just curious as to that the the northern end of W 6 is is Cumberland the southern end westington right uh Creekwood those are NES okay so the further north you go toward Durham Farms all of Durham Farms is at Cumberland all of Drake's point all of Autumn Creek. All of you know sub of ward five also on near on Anderson are are Cumberland. Yes. So I'm looking for a map. Cumberland doesn't have any presence on any right or on a

main street. No, I don't think so. They're just north of I say two has zero. Okay. County Yeah. I don't know that you I I was thinking just right off hand. I'm not sure about too. What about our subdivisions with NES like W one that are not on the street account if they wanted to convert it to LED? What would be the process for those neighbors that have a street light because they want to do more than what the city does? It still helps illuminate the road. What I mean, it's going to kind of look hodgepodge. Some of them will be LED and some won't be. So, I had thought about consistency. So, you're talking about if they have a Cobra head that they pay for privately. Yes. Through NES on on the street. They can request NES to replace it with with an LED um for their account, but PATH wouldn't be associated with that conversion. No. No. and that those oneoffs, I mean, there aren't a ton of those in the city, but I think those one-offs would be easily manageable by NES and their normal maintenance operations. Okay. Yeah. Okay. We're talking about LED lights, Andy, in the in the parks and this $600,000 that's in the mayor's budget. Uh I asked the question what if we fund that what percentage of lights in the parks will be LED? I know that doesn't get them all but but do you can you guess what the I think we have approximately 3 million left to get them all. Um, we have already spent approximately a million, maybe a

million five. So, I'm going to say we'd be right at what's what's uh four or four and a.5 million. Yeah, we've total I'm going say we probably spent around two of five five million that would be needed. So, we're about a third or more. The 600,000 would need to be used to attack some of our worst worst ones. We have an area of soccer that is bad and we have um two of our baseball softball fields that are really bad. Hey, tell them about the fires and tennis is one that goes out a lot or we have buls go out a whole lot. So that's that's what we kind of have a list of a comprehensive list that I gave to the PATH folks and internally we divided that into A B and C. So I think we would take that 600,000 and attack A. How many fields will 600,000 get us additional fields? Uh I think with soccer it would it would fully it would get our front soccer fields totally done. Field 789 would be with this one. And then um we would look at tennis and pill 12 and five at Drake Creek Park. Okay. I don't know that we would be able to get all that, but it would be close. And I know that we haven't used PATH in the past for LED, but this proposal is with LED with with PATH. Correct. We haven't used PATH, but PATH uses Musco, who we have used for all our LED lights. Okay. All right. Yeah, this Musco has got it going on, I would tell you. Yeah, they've been pretty strategically smart. Yeah, that's I But they've also been the best in terms of their warranty and their customer service. And if it's 11:00 at night and a light goes out, I can call the 1-800 number and they have

a technician. So this price uh that path got is it from Musco and and did you did you add on any kind of overhead with what they they said they would do it for? We did. Absolutely. So So the sports lighting budget that I had referred to the sports lighting budget which I don't have well I guess I'm not sharing it anymore. Uh, I can go back and reshare this here if that's the question. Give me a second. I guess I'm saying we'd be better for us just to deal with us go and not let them deal with it and they charge an administrative 5% on top of what they're going to charge. I would say so. He probably don't want to hear that, but he would probably it would probably also tell us that would be the way to do it. I would absolutely tell you. I mean and we clearly show if you look I'm sorry I'm trying to share this again. We clearly show where we have our we charge 10%. Right. That is what we charge in order to you guys can see this presentation now again this athletic field lighting slide. Okay. All right. So if you look down at the bottom this is the total amount much like the street light project where we're showing it before you take the incentives into consideration. So truly the project, the amount of lighting that remains to be converted is about $4 million. That's inclusive of Musco's equipment budget. That's inclusive of the installation quotes that we actually put together, not just the budgets, but the quotes we put together. That's inclusive of a couple other things that are not included in their fees. And you can see down here at the bottom, this is if you're trying to figure out how much money could you potentially save by going direct, I would tell you this. I would also raise my hand and tell you

that's probably worth paying if you wanted to do the entirety of the scope. If, however, you want to do $600,000 this year and $400,000 next year, I would tell you you're probably just as well off to just allow them to self-manage that that project. The scope is not going to be overwhelming to them. So, there's a management fee of 10%. Correct. And for $600,000 it would be $60,000 that you would add on to what Musco would do the work for and you would just supervise it. Correct. That's correct. And to be clear, Musco themselves doesn't provide the install. Musco is equipment provider. They'll they would if you went direct to them and did not have PATH, they would have a subcontractor who would come and work to install the lights. We would of course also have our subcontractor do it. We would manage the project for that 10% amount. That's correct. That's what scares me. I want to point to one person to say this is your responsibility. Well, keep in mind too, if I may, there's only two licensed installers in the state of Tennessee for my one of them lives in Harrisonville. The other one lives in Dixon. The one in Dixon has installed every light in our park, but we are very comfortable working with the one that lives in Harrisonville, too. But they are sent everywhere and everyone is converting to LED right now. So I can't look any of you in the eye and tell you if we approve $4 million of LED lights that could take two years because of our schedules, their schedules, weather. I mean you you got weather if it rains and they're scheduled to install LED lights, they can't go back in the soccer fields and do that because they'll tear up the whole park. It's a I mean if we there's been times when we've approved we

started five or six years ago on a path this was before co of doing about 400,000 a year in LED lights and and try to target certain fields certain places and that's about all we could get done in a year is four at that time 400 now probably 400 then it's probably 600 now. So if you if you do that, you say, "Here's $4 million." It literally could take us two to three years to get to every project. And that's what the mayor was saying. If NES starts requiring it, everybody's going to jump on board wanting it. Plus, if the demand is high, the cost is going up. Or if TVA or the EPA. Yeah. I I don't think that the federal government's going to be pushing the green deal much. But that that's what got me involved in this about five years ago was seeing award federal government. I think you're probably right is I think that's probably backed off. However, some of the information I've seen also is that as more people buy electric cars and have to plug those in. Yeah. And expect more from the electric grid, where's that electricity coming from? Well, I just hope that staff would ask those questions and look at the incremental cost. Is this the best and the most efficient way that we can get the biggest bang for our bucks? I mean, we got to depend on y'all to I'm not smart enough to figure that out, but y'all are. So there is there is a if you look at our chart that we have that lists every field that we don't have or facility that we don't have LED lights in. They gave us a range. It was like a three-year range and there is a 30 to $40,000 price difference in the range per field. One year versus three years.

So I don't personally know me. I'm not necessarily smart enough probably to say is it smart to encumber the whole amount and get a contract and however long it takes it takes or is it smarter to just do it as we can afford it and schedule it if that makes sense. The other thing to think about I think with the fields too is if you replace them all at the same time replacements are probably all going to come up at the same time or similar time too. So that could be a consideration if you phase out your installation. Then if they go bad, they're phased out so you don't have half your part going out in one year and have your part going out maybe your next year too. So Andy, what kind of priority do you give this part LED lights? This would this would be of infrastructure-wise this would be a high priority for some of our facilities. Okay. you you the other thing the unknown is like right now we signed a contract and a purchase order uh after one of our flood events. I can't remember if it was February or March for around $20,000 worth of light work for for a company to go around replace bulbs, replace ballasts. That was over a month or two ago and they are still trying to get the supplies to do the work on the ballast and the bulbs. I don't know how much that that problem is going to continue to ex excel or exacerbate or whatever the correct word is. Exacerbate. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Yes sir. Any other discussion on this? Um so where are we exactly? Excuse me. This might be the

hospital. Okay. Um so where are we on this at this point? What what do we is this I know it's obviously for information but where where do we need to go just continue on pass the budget and then um that will allow us to get with path and move forward and then I'll come back to y'all when we have when we we have options for an actual contractor. Okay. All right. Good deal. Well, um, uh, is there any any questions at this point, guys, or that we need to know about or that you have questions from us or to William or, uh, Andy or the mayor or anybody or anything at all? We're just we're just in a William, what we're we're waiting to see what the budget turns out tonight. And but I I hope that it's positive. I ju but I just don't I you know I'm not gonna put my head out there just quite yet you know on the budget. Uh um any further discussion body will but thank you for uh anything William you need from us I don't believe so. Okay. No no no I think I'm set. I'll just await further information from you guys. Okay that sounds good. Well uh thank you for coming tonight. Um, this zooming thing is a good thing, man. And, uh, it worked out well. I appreciate you guys setting it up. Oh, sure. Nice house. Nice. We're on vacation. Oh, okay. That Yeah, that explains that. Well, enjoy yourself on your vacation.

Sick. Bye, guys. Byebye. Now, that was pretty cool. Okay. Well, that's funny. All right. Well, it sounds pretty positive really. I think you know um I think the mayor I think we're behind the curve else. I think the sooner the better. And I Yeah, I do too. And I think mayor, you were you were when you tried this or started talking to us as a board about it years ago, you were dead on and it turns out to be a reality. So shock another one up for Clary, right? That's good. Good, man. Appreciate y'all supporting us. And that conversation is great. I think William appreciates it, too. Yeah. So, but I did notice Alderman uh Alderman Robertson when you said y'all are smarter than than I am. You looked at Sarah and Jesse. You looked right beyond. Oh Okay. Well, let's go on. Let's go on to the world famous light synchronization update. We have movement. So, it's it's positive. We um we have approved plans. We have an approved estimate. We got received rightway certification. Um so, the two main things that we're waiting on just right now that the check boxes is the reimbursement request, which we've submitted. So, it'll take a couple weeks for them to process that. And then they want um the finalized executed contract for the CI, so the construction engineering uh consultant. So, we've already selected someone. We've um issued a notice of award and established a contract. They're reviewing it now. Is it Kimly Horn? No. Who? Oh, it was Neil Schaer. I see. Oh, okay. Um they're very experienced in this particular area. Glass from the past. Yeah. Yeah. Um and so when we get the executed contract, I would anticipate this week, maybe next, depending on their review timeline, we'll submit that

to T DOT. Couple more hurdles. The biggest one being just um finalizing the funding. So they'll there's a certain amount of money in the tip which it's showing to be sufficient based on what we have for an estimate right now. Um and then T dot will go to FHWA to get that obligated for construction. So that is a process of course go to who? FHWA. Federal federal to have the money obligated to the construction phase of the project. We fortunately have a former employee of that agency. Indeed, we did. He hadn't been let go. I've heard I've heard through the grapevine what Josh told me from the county. Oh, no. He's working with us now. Um, we have a former HFWA employee working with us. Oh, so he was Yeah. Well, the the story I heard is that the federal government has just about uh closed up those offices. the the the people there and there's a fear that anything that goes to the federal government is going to hit Stonewall. They don't have people to approve the projects. We're hearing some of that with the core similar problem. That's wonderful. Okay. But T DOT is moving. They are um we now have their reorganization is um kind of mostly complete. We have a an a local programs engineer. He's an interim engineer. I don't know if he'll be permanent or not, but so previously there were no engineers in local program. So the engineers reviewing these plans were just kind of doing it as they could in addition to a regular workload whereas now they brought engineers into local programs. So it is their responsibility to review these plans and make that a priority. Good. Good. Didn't you tell us when they did that reun organization that that was going to happen? Yes. Yeah. I remember

us talking about that. Yeah. Um I think it'll be positive. Well, it was painful for a moment, but Yeah. Yeah. So, best case scenario to start construction. I would say best case scenario, best case scenario, um advertising for bids in six weeks and then starting probably 10 to 12 weeks. You go through a pre-construction meeting and all of those things and check boxes, but Okay. Okay. Any any questions on that? Well, on white synchronization, I want to thank the mayor sent us an email uh thanking our traffic engineer, the tech for that. And I was excited to hear him talk uh his his response that the blinking yellow lights. So what's the timeline for the blinking yellow lights to get them in so when you turn left you don't have to set there when there's no traffic. Yeah. So we're still working through some of the communication um information with Casey. Of course she's out of town right now. But um we did just receive the equipment in recently. We were waiting on that. So I would say within the next couple weeks to a month, we would have some of those implemented. Can our staff put those install them? Yes. Trust's people can install them. Adrian will Okay, good. Yeah. Good. That that would be good. He's excellent. They both are. Excellent. Good. Good news. All righty. Any other discussion on the light synchronization? Um, I don't have anything here, but mine's not worth really talking

about. I'll just wait. It's a good job. It is. It's, you know, I know we always get hammered by it, you know, but when it when it's all I really believe that when it's all said and done, we're all going to be proud and glad that it's done. So, it is better since day one. Oh, yeah. I mean, I can detect a a big change. Yes. Just manually. Yeah. I know. I listen. I mean, I know we do have sometimes our bad days. Uh but that's just any city that's moving forward is going to have that. But um you know, I've said earlier on time and time again that it the traffic is a lot different going down Main Street. Yeah. Yes, it is. Um so um and and other people in fact the not only me but their my con the are the city's cons are our all constituency have said thanks to me about it. So um in all boards so I'm grateful for that. Um if there's under other business does anybody have any anything? Um I do and the mayor you might be able to answer this. I don't know. And if it's something that I need, drop by your office. I have to go. I'm sorry. He said I have to go. Oh, do you? Okay. Well, then I can go. We've got a couple minutes. Go ahead. Okay. My real quickly, um, and Andy knows what uh a little bit about it, too. I had a constituent call uh about one of the um the the park or the the lot down by Walton Ferry Road and they want to name it Sunset Park. Um, and I think you're familiar. The guy told me that he was going to contact you about it. Um, and and I said, "Well, that's probably the the proper way to go actually in my opinion is go to Andy

first and then if he if he deems it cool, then send it to the mayor and let the mayor deviate, you know, because I mean, you've got a lot on your plate every day." So, um um I know that that is a a federal park, but I think I don't know if there's a a where we I are we allowed to name that park as a as a f I don't think we are, but I wanted to make sure that that was the case there. I definitely like that name better than Lock 3 Park. Although Lock 3 has some history behind it. Yeah. Um but Sunset Park makes it sound a little bit more attractive. It's just we don't have a lease on it. We don't have any use agreement on it. It's not our part. Okay. I wanted to make sure that what I said at least had some teeth back to the city and that's what I I said the same thing. Um so I wanted to make sure and I'll contact that guy and let him know or about it. uh because I know he's uh contacted one of the homeowners association groups within the district about helping clean it up and you know the pathway which which I'm a big advocate for um for them to do that and I think it would be that would be proper. I mean I think they'd be allowed to do that or I'm sure they would. Um but thank you for that. I just wanted to make sure before I said anything else because I, you know, in the years I've done I go, "Oh, yeah." You know, I go and then I go talk to the city and they go, "Oops." And then I have to go back and look, you know, and everybody then they realize what a dumb dumb I am about things. Okay, you've answered my question. Um, any other uh dealings at all? The only thing last night the parks put on the Isaac's concert. All right. It was the best

concert that I've ever been at. It was fabulous. And I know the parks had to change from having it at Veterans to the Epic Center, but I I tell you uh uh Barry asked who all is from out of the state. I mean, there were hundreds of people raised their hand. There were even some from out of the country while we're there. So, I just I just I want to thank the parks. Y'all patched that together superbly. And the Isaac's are just a treasure. They are a treasure for our city. It was moving. I'm telling you, the last three songs were religious songs. And I tell you, I was so moved. I was ready to give an offering. Yeah. Yeah. So it was an inspiring night. Good job. At 20, as of this afternoon, 25,000 people viewed it online. Nice. Wow. Yeah. Well, was it a free event? Yes, it was free. Yes. Moving it inside, we had to cut tickets off at,00 and normally we give away like 2500 when it's at the park, but everyone that showed up, we let in. Really? Okay. So, oh nice. No one was turned away. So, I went to the park. I heard found out that it was not at the park and then I s I saw the video and I thought I am not about to take a ticket from somebody else. And at the same time, we had a uh police pursuit. Oh, yeah. That I wouldn't spend some time with police officers. You need to read your Friday uh events. You're right about that. You're right about that. Well, good job. All right. Well, thank you. Yes, sir. All right. Uh, hearing none. I just need a motion. Motion to second. All right. Thank you. Can you look at something?