Public Works Committee - Regular Meeting

How is everybody? Good. Super duper. You are loved. All right, thank you. We're going to go ahead and call the Public Works Committee for May 26, 2026 to order. If there's no objection, we'll just go ahead and accept the agenda, except if anybody needs anything added to it, such as a resolution or ordinance, hearing none, we'll move right along. We're now for the approval of the minutes of April 28th of 2026. I need a motion.

Motion.

Second. Okay, there's been a proper motion and a proper second. Is there any further discussion on this year? Hearing none, is everybody ready to vote? All in favor of the minutes approval, signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed? Passes with two yeses and one abstention. Okay. Thank you, committee. Ordinances and resolutions tonight, we have, believe it or not, zero. Zilch. Zilch. No ordinance or resolutions coming before the committee this evening.

Yeah.

Now we have our world-famous other agenda items, and we're going to go with a trash collection update.

All right, we'll start with passing out a revision to what was included in your packet, because I discovered this morning that the data was pulling from the wrong cells in Excel.

How many more do we need down there?

OK.

Now, if it's bad, we'll just put this in the trash.

Well, actually, there was a spike. It was a carryover from the previous month where we had a spike that occurred on Good Friday, and it was pulling that data. So actually, what you'll see here is a flatter line. Oh, okay. So we've continued the trend of pretty low misses, you know, right around 10 plus or minus. day at most. Good, okay.

Did we have any calls on it because of Memorial Day or Holiday Harmony?

Do you know? The feedback I got from my staff this morning was it was relatively quiet for a post-holiday day, so it seems like maybe everyone realized that yesterday was a holiday. That's why.

I got a text. Yep. So who gets the text? Is that who signs up for the Civic Plus?

Well, we don't have that. We're on the old system, and whoever had signed up for that would get it. And so that's around 10,000 people that we have in the system that we sent that to, and we shared it on social media and sent some emails as well. So we're just trying to set the habit, get the word out.

I could have read this or something. No, it is. I do think I read it. Yeah, I didn't have one call on collecting that trash, not one call. So that's good. Well, that's great. All right. Is there any questions or comments for when is our next title day, July Memorial? I guess July 4th is our next one. Okay. All right, great. We're going to move along to number two, which is uh, the storm, excuse me, storm debris removal update.

All right. So, um, as y'all may remember, we added hazard stumps to our, our debris removal contract for the winter storm burn. Um, hopefully this, I think this will be our last update on this particular item because that project was just wrapped up in the last month. But what it comes down to is, um, For debris and hazard stump removal, we had a total cost of about $1.95 million. That was 145,400 cubic yards of material removed from the city. So the material removal portion of that project was $1.87 million. The remaining $88,000 of that was the 130 hazard stumps that were removed from parks and the golf course properties. Okay. The debris monitoring service portion of that, which is what allows us to track everything and assure reimbursement from FEMA, that was about 520,000, sorry, yes, 520,000. So our total project cost was approximately $2.5 million. So that's debris removal, stump grinding, and monitoring services combined.

Now, will we get a portion of that back?

We should get at least approximately 80%, I would say. Maybe more, depending on what happens with Tennessee, as far as if they contribute another 12.5%. So it could be more than 80%. Okay. That would be our hope.

All right. Now, as far...

Sorry, that's not right. It's 75-25. Sorry, my apologies. 75% from FEMA, and then 25 is our portion, and oftentimes the state will pick up half of that 25.

Okay.

Sorry, I'm kidding.

So we'd be fair to say that the feds are going to pitch in, what, 75? Is that right?

Correct.

Okay. Okay, are we on, as far as the debris pickup, you know, for the trees, branches, and things, are we on schedule with that, or are we behind?

As far as with our city staff? Yeah. As far as I know, we're back on our regular route and schedule. Okay. Okay.

um tree branch because i've had a couple of calls and i figured we were but that's what i told him so i said it just starts all over you know for the city and so i'll make that report tonight um when do you hear back from the city it's kind of been a while i don't have a gauge on that one yeah i i really don't i do you know anything on that process no that we probably won't even

You know, it took two years. The 2024 May flood, we just got noticed that we're going to get reimbursed for that like a month ago. So FEMA can take typically about two years to get back to us. I think we typically, I'm not sure when the state reimburses us. I think they're kind of around the same time, but it's going to be a minute before we get reimbursed for these projects. Submitted the Q&A? Yeah, and we submit it for expedited processing, too. So we've already, I mean, for FEMA expedited processing.

Yeah.

So we've done our part, we've submitted it. I think we were the first city in Tennessee to submit to you for reimbursement too. So we're on top of it, but we have to wait and go through their process.

Jesse, the 2024 check from FEMA that we're gonna get, how big is that?

A little over 400,000. And where will that go? To our general fund. We did not use our reserve for that project. We did use our reserve for this 2.5 million. We used our rainy day reserve. So you've been notified that we're going to get it. When should we get it? The $400,000? Yes. We expect to get it, like, within a month.

So will you be adjusting, Mayor, your second reading based on that assumption, general fund, $400,000?

It's not the plan right now. Oh, we'll adjust the amount coming in for the current fiscal year. If it comes in for the fiscal year. We'll have to see. It's really cutting close.

I guess I'm thinking of the new budget. What will we do with this $400,000? Because we're balanced. You submitted a balanced budget.

Yeah. Part of that is using some reserves. That would be my first reaction. I'll leave it to the Finance Committee to ferret that out.

Well, that's good news. Now, at the golf course, there was a lot of our trails, golf paths that were destroyed. And I understand we were going to see if we could be a real person. Have you heard anything? We're still working on it.

We've kind of strategized how we can do it the best way that we can do it. So there will be some reimbursement. We were hoping that we could upgrade to concrete and still be reimbursed for it. I don't know that that's possible, but I think that's one of the paths we're going to try to see if FEMA will approve reimbursing and upgrading some of those areas so we're not just putting back asphalt for asphalt. If we do replace with asphalt, I think they will reimburse like for like.

All right. Any questions about that, Alderman Evans? Do you have any, Mayor? Anything that we need to... I misspoke. It's on our operating side, isn't it?

Yes.

What is it? Yeah. What is it? What did you say? So does that change your opinion on what you want to do with it or what you're thinking about the suggestion? I think that's a good point. Okay. All right.

Fair enough.

All right. Any other further discussion on that issue? Hearing none, is everybody ready to move on? And that will be Imperial Boulevard and Rockland Road roundabout.

All right. So as part of your packet, I did include the study that was done by Neil Schaefer. regarding that intersection. This was a topic of discussion at the Capital Projects meeting, and this is a follow-up to that. So there was also a diagram of the concept of what that would look like. I do have extra copies of the study.

Yeah, okay, that's what that is. Yeah. All right. I have an extra copy here, too, if you need it.

So I think it was said in the capital projects that, is it Yawa? Yawa? Is that?

Wawa.

Wawa. Wawa. That Wawa is not going to contribute to this project? Not in- At an upside improvement?

Correct, not as a monetary element, but they did dedicate the right-of-way necessary to build and build the roundabout. So we work with them on that. The way that occurs is they will build improvements within that right-of-way, but there's a... I guess it's more or less kind of set aside that when the time comes for the city to deliver a project, that we will handle the deed documents to transfer that to city right-of-way more or less at no cost to the city, other than preparation of the documents. So... that dedication exists on the plat that they're preparing for the project.

And that's what the consultant recommended, right?

This is, yes, this was consultant recommended. And just of note, there's a similar example in Murfreesboro, almost identical type intersection, very similar spacing from the roundabout to a signalized intersection that is operating well. That's very similar layout to this, so. Another good, you know, local example of this functioning.

Good. So, is Wawa, they're giving the easement, but they're not contributing money towards the project?

Correct.

Are we not charging the commercial impact, please? No. Okay.

Under the, let me, I have a question. Looks good and everything, but let me ask you, the... Have you all done like a traffic study how the red light is going to impact the backup that's going to hit the roundabout?

We did have a traffic study done as part of the preparation of this concept. And the analysis indicated that it would function satisfactorily. Okay.

If it does not, what are you going to do about it?

We would probably monitor how the timings are set up. our traffic engineer would certainly be monitoring that closely.

Okay. And you'll have radar with Phase 2 that will adjust it automatically, right?

It'll allow for adjustment from the office. We'll be able to pull the analytics from it.

That's what I was hoping you would say because I will make a prediction that we'll have at least not one maybe but two maybe three times that it will back up on certain days. So I want us to be prepared for that in the city for that to occur. Does anybody have any other questions on this? I know that Chairman Roberson did a good job with the capital projects committee, him running the committee and it was very well explained to me how this was going to operate. So I don't, you know, I think it looks good. If you all don't think it is, I want you to tell me because this is important because this really is a direct effect for wards one and two and this whole side of our town. So if we have any questions, I know we're going to be coming at you.

I think I should make one note on the concept that's presented here. You'll see they have what's called the inscribed diameter of 200 feet. So that's the inner circle of that roundabout. This is a very conservative design using a large like highway type truck. Um, we're probably gonna, gonna shrink it down a little bit from this size and do something smaller that would be designed for like a fire truck versus, you know, uh, a semi tractor trailer type vehicle.

Well, obviously, I mean, I'm almost stupid to ask this question, and y'all are stupid to even me having to listen to this. So the 18-wheelers that do come through there, they're going to be able to make it around... This is that garage?

So being that there's two lanes coming through there, if a larger truck came through than, you know, something that required the 200-foot diameter inscribed circle, it would off-track into the other lane. That's something we can make the judgment to allow, you know, understanding that that might be kind of a rare case versus the norm to have a large truck come down that roadway.

And I agree with that. I think that it would be. But, you know, one thing that we've been really, really... good at, and I'm proud of it, that when we hear, we anticipate the complaints that we might get, and we anticipate them being a reality, and so we try to take care of them before it gets to that, you know, or being, instead of reactionary, what's the word? Proactive. Proactive. Thank you, sir. That's why you're by shame on this committee. But anyway, and chairman of Capital Projects, that's the very reason right there But anyway, we're being proactive in our work with our road projects. I appreciate that. All right. Any other? Yes, sir.

Tell me about the east-west street. Is that going to go to the station?

Yes, that will connect over to the, what is it, executive drive, I think, or whatever goes in front.

Executive park.

Executive park drive.

That's going to go all the way up there.

In front of, connects over to the police department.

Okay.

So. that provide great connectivity from their department.

Yes.

Mr. Chairman, do you have a question?

Oh, yes, sir. I'm sorry. I'm just looking at the post office. Have we discussed this with them at all?

At this point in time, no, but the intent would be during the development process that, you know, if this goes forward as a project, the discussions would occur to address their driveways onto Imperial and their ingress and egress.

So from this image, it looks like there is a portion, there is a section of the land up from the post office that would need to be utilized. Is that correct?

Potentially. potentially, but if we do go with the smaller design, it might enable us to use entirely what is city property, because we do actually own that corner grass area is city property, from what I remember, so we might be able to shrink it down a little bit, but it wouldn't alleviate the need to work with them as far as their driveways and how they connect.

I'm just thinking about their, they've got that mail drop-off drive area going through there that's really close to the road that could be an issue in gaining access. And so something to think about, something that maybe we can discuss further of other options out there, because I know that there's been some discussion as well on reutilization. So just some thoughts there. Thanks.

Appreciate it. Thank you.

A post office would be a great location for a replacement police headquarters. Has this been added to the prioritized infrastructure projects list? It's in your report. It's actually on the tip.

Yes, it is on the tip.

All right, so when are you guys anticipating any kind of construction on that? Because it's going to be a nightmare.

It's funding dependent, really. A lot of it depends on whether this project gets picked up as part of our team.

Yeah, I remember us talking about that.

That's a key element of it. Hopefully, I would say within the current tip cycle, which would be the next four to five years. Okay.

That's probably what I was thinking, too.

The good news is, unlike some other cities, we have money to fund the ideas we have. Of course, the other cities don't.

And we've got a good plan, a transportation plan.

And good advocates in Stephen and Keith.

And, yeah.

It'll be just time for when we get done with the real arm. I know. No, you're right. I'm like, not at all.

Yeah. The projects keep coming, man. I'm telling you. I was proud today. This is really not pertaining to this particular issue, but since we're kind of very lax here on, on Robert's Rules instead of at the Board of Aldermen. It was, and people saw it too, that they were working while it was pouring rain in the morning, where they were still working like dogs out there on Walton Ferry Road, and I was so pleased with that. They were just moving gravel like you'd never seen. So I was pleased that they were doing that. And I'm sure people noticed it. I mean, you couldn't help but notice it. But anyway. Okay. Any other discussion on that? We'll definitely keep us up to date on that. When will... Oh, and then one other thing. I'm sorry that all these questions come to me. When will they start at the Wawa gas station? Do you know when that's going to happen? Do we even...

I'll check with... Greg, to see if they even have a building from it, a lane of service from it. I haven't heard of anything coming through yet. Okay, I was just curious. Would that be the first lane of service?

Or no demolition? They'd probably have to submit the plaque, or get signatures on the plaque, and then file that, because that combines those two properties.

Okay. That would give us a general idea of where we would start.

At least a minute construction drawings.

They have.

They have.

It's got all approvals through planning.

Any of the aldermen, mayor, do you all have any questions? Questions? Mark, questions? We're going to move right along to the Drake's Creek and Stop 30 intersection project.

All right, so on this particular project, we have the petition of condemnation that has been published following court procedures. That has to be advertised in the paper for a certain period of time. It's in that advertisement publication process right now. And then there's a 30-day period after the last publication where we have to allow anyone that might claim ownership with the right provenance to prove that they're owners or heirs to that property to step forward. But after that 30 days, if there is nothing that occurs, the possession can take place. So that looks like it'll be, I think the 30 days following the publication was July 13th or something like that, if I recall correctly. So it's a couple months out.

So construction's still first of next year. Best case.

That would be best case. That's what we're still doing our best to try to meet. So the second part of this update is the environmental permitting is still in process and We're working on securing the mitigation credits required for regulatory compensatory mitigation with Army Corps and TDAC. So that's kind of really the critical path is the permitting.

And we're going to file with GNRC to help on that, right?

So, yeah, that's the amendment to the project amount to make it whole for being able to fund when we have it go out to bid.

And how many people have signed up for both?

When I checked we had just under 50 so not a ton but I haven't checked again since we've done a couple pushes over the weekend and we published something earlier today just to let everybody know. I did send out the email to those folks that were signed up right before the holiday. That's a good tool.

All right. Any other discussion on Drake Creek and Stop 30? Can I throw something out? Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

So I had the opportunity to have lunch with the new commissioner of transportation for the state. And a good portion of our conversation was about environmental reviews. And he's frustrated because of what the feds expect of us. And so he's trying to find ways to get us out from some of those expectations in a more realistic manner, the way he mentioned it. um... several said stories of how uh... we are slowed down repeatedly and one of his goals is to speed up delivery of their projects and we've said what we've said that's really to speed it up is to get the environmental portion of it that is unnecessary and other cities have examples of uh... of assets that sat on property for forty years and they were expected to do an archaeological study or uh... or other studies and so we're not alone in that.

You've seen that?

Yes.

That's the TDOT flow diagram for locally, local funded projects.

Wow.

Look at all those steps.

Not many were simultaneously. Yeah, I mean, God, I haven't seen that.

Yeah, it's worse than the book of Leviticus. Ha! Yeah, it sucked, man.

And, uh, HEMA.

Yeah.

There's a larger copy of it. You want to see it in gray? It's better than color.

It's got a magnifying glass. That's good. That'll be presented to the board tonight, right, Steve? Yes.

That's good, because they need to know that. I think the whole board needs to realize how many steps that each project we've got that has to go through that. So... That's good that you're going to present that tonight.

You know, with President Trump, he's all for eliminating bureaucracy and slowing down. He's in construction. He's the builder. And so hopefully our two new congressmen, we'll have two now, maybe we can get them to say, hey, the state needs your help to try to rein in some of this

Well, I agree with you. That's madness right there. That many steps that each project has to go through. That's just crazy.

It's comical.

Yeah, it is. It's just ridiculous. Okay, any other discussion on Driggs Creek? Okay, now let's go to the light synchronization project. Just a verbal update on that.

So we had a pre-construction meeting on that just recently, and we're anticipated to start construction beginning in June. So as early as next week, we could have contractors out there beginning to install equipment. And their contract has, I believe it was about a one-year duration was part of the contract.

What area of the town are they working on this phase?

I don't know where they're starting. I don't have that information.

Well, just as long as it's starting, that's the main thing. All right. Any other discussion on that? LED streetlight conversion project. How's that coming along?

As of Friday the 22nd, They were approximately 45% complete, and that was 1,070 of the 2,338 lights have been converted.

Nice.

So they're moving along pretty well.

I've heard complaints how bright it is now. Black daylight.

Yeah.

They're probably just used to the high-pressure sodium, low-quality light.

And we have... addressed a few of the complaints that have come into our office with some of the heads on the lights were pointed outward toward homes and we adjusted them more downward to point up the street.

Well they've been doing a lot of work, I mean really good work with just 45% being complete We'll have it done by, what, the end of the year? Or the summer? Probably mid-summer, at the rate they're going.

Have we seen a savings in our utilities?

I haven't seen a savings yet, but I mean, I don't look at our electrical bill with great detail on my end. We're supposed to. We're supposed to see savings from it.

We definitely see it in the parks.

I hadn't seen it in my house. No, I'm just teasing. I shouldn't say that. Okay. Any other discussion on that? That's good news, really, on the street conversion project. So we'll go on. Let's go on. How are you? You're not the one that I was looking for.

No, sir. The other two people left. Okay.

Who was here? Did y'all see? Karen. Oh, okay. Well, we were going to have a discussion on the recycling program, but the young lady that was here with her husband, they're not here this evening. So I don't know.

So coming out of that meeting, it was requested that we do some research on our end to find out what recycling services were available. Yes. public works office went out to a variety of retailers to see, you know, who had recycling services available. And most of sort of the big box retailers, so I'm a little bit reluctant to share because I'll tell you what kind of occurred in that process. Most of them have a recycling container on site. And as the question was being asked, it was made very clear that these are for customers of the store. They didn't want the public coming in with their recycled goods to fill their containers. So that's why I didn't print out copies of this to spread around. And Casey and I have had some discussions of how we could present that information on our website. You know, generally, most of the stores had some sort of, like, plastic bag recycling container for, you know, just for cups and things, you know, that their customers had as they were leaving the store. Most of the automotive stores, say, like AutoZone, O'Reilly's, Advanced Auto, they accept used oil for recycling oil. And some of the big box electronic stores accept old electronic equipment to recycle. So then you're not putting those into landfills. But yeah, something I think that was brought up was if the city could have a site where we monitored recycling and whatnot. That, of course, would take some resources to do. But I did do a little bit of research on what Wilson County does. And they have multiple convenience centers throughout that are run by Wilson County. So I know that Sumner County has the resources already. I don't know if they've ever considered having multiple. convenience sites for drop-off. But I know the only one available is really if you go out to Gallatin to the actual resource authority. Maybe there's a convenience center up in White House, but I'm not certain of that.

So the county doesn't have recycling?

Sumner County? They do have it at the resource authority, but it requires you to go all the way to Gallatin, so That was kind of one of the things I looked at was, you know, what are some other counties around us doing? And I know, like I said, Wilson County has, I think they have seven sites, seven convenient sites where you can take either your waste or your recycled goods. But that's, again, managed by the county itself, not any of the cities within Wilson County.

So the recycling center for the city has come up before. and the due diligence came back that it was too expensive to offer.

Correct, yes.

And that was when China was accepting recycling.

So within the city, we do have one privately owned company that does do curbside pickup, but it's really upon the residents to sign up for that service.

Okay. Any discussion on what I'm going to do is I'm probably not even going to talk about recycling tonight at the board report. We'll just let that one go for right now to protect the people that need to. Oh, yes, ma'am. Yes. I'm sorry. Yeah.

Hi, I'm Sophia. I'm the new intern here. I work for the city. Mayor Clare is currently having me look at municipal composting programs for the city of Hendersonville. So once I get all the information to him, I'll give it to him, and then perhaps you guys can review it. But it does go a lot into some of the issues that Hendersonville is currently dealing with, with our overflowing So this will go ahead and be an opportunity for citizens to engage. And it's a really popular program in Knoxville and a lot of other cities, so I do think you're there to solve some of the problems that you guys are facing. But I just wanted to add that in, since I don't know if they were very bright enough, that that was a program that was wanted to pursue.

Okay. Do you live here in Andersonville? Yes, I do. And what district do you live in?

I am not currently aware of that, but I live in the field press circle.

Fieldcrest Circle. Is that Ward 3? It's not my ward. Does anybody know? I don't think it is. I don't think it cheers either. I don't think it cheers. So my comment to you is you will receive absolutely nothing from us. No, I'm just saying that. I'm a little bit kind of a clown sometimes, so. on, but we're certainly glad to have you here. I hope I didn't interrupt anything. This committee is, we're very lax. Well, we're not. You're in Ward 3, so you'll have to get registered to vote. But, we're not too lax, but we're very lax. So, if you have ever, and don't hesitate to say, hey, excuse me, I'm either have a question or a comment just like you did seriously I want you to tell us because there's we listen to everything because it's critical because you could leave here and have something and you said shoot I really should have told them that and we don't want you to be that way because it could be valuable to us so I appreciate you speaking out what you did okay I apologize for no no you're you're perfect I'm glad that you did. Actually, I didn't even know that you were working here, and I don't know if any of the other aldermen do, but we're certainly glad to have you here working for our city. Now, how long are you going to be here?

I'm going to be here for about three months, Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Fridays. I'm going to be doing a lot of research projects. I know someone mentioned a study, so I think I might be doing some of the work to set up programs that you guys might want to invest in. So, for instance, one of the things that Mayor Clare is having me look into is whether or not bicycles should use stoplights as yield signs. So that research is going to help him make decisions about legislation or methods that you guys want to implement in the city.

Well, that is interesting because a lot of people use bicycles here in this town, so. That's interesting. Well, welcome aboard. Thank you. And we're glad to have you for three months. Of course.

I'm sorry for interrupting. No, you're fine.

You're a blessing. No, you're fine. That's right. In Ward 3. No, you've got to go back to school.

I'm at the University of Tennessee, so I'm in the Howard Baker School of Public Policy.

Ah, okay.

All right. When you do research for the compost... We use the compost company in Nashville, and they have a robust program, so they might be a good resource of information for you.

Oh yeah, I was not aware of that. I was looking at all sorts of different programs in Nashville that do the composting as well as some of the financial programs that the state has set up as well as on the federal level as well. They have some that states can tap into. So yes, I will let you guys all return to your conversation. I was just wanting to maybe contribute to that. Well sure, and you did.

And I appreciate that. Jennifer Westerholm runs the program at Metro. And she can give you, she'd be a great resource for you.

Of course, I would actually like to speak to you about that after the meeting if you'd like.

All right. You don't sound like you're from here. Where are you from?

I've lived in Hendersonville for 20 years, my 20 years of life, so.

Oh, my Lord. Times have changed. Must be the north side.

My parents are from New Hampshire and both from New Hampshire. Oh, okay.

That answers it. Yeah, okay. That answers that well. We're certainly glad to honestly have you.

I'm happy to be here, too. I'm really hoping that I can make a small change in my hometown in some way.

God bless you. That is a very kind thing to say. It really is. I'm happy to hear that, and I'm happy your family is here as well. Thank you. So you just come back if we can ever be of assistance to you. Of course. Okay. All right. Let's see here. We've done the recycling. Oh, Drake, Old Drake Creek and New Shackle Island Road. I know that's, I think that's a county project, isn't it? But we're still.

It is a county project. Yeah. I spoke with Marshall Boyd, Summer County Director of Planning and Engineering. Yeah. So that project is currently in the beginning of the right-of-way phase. They have 15 parcels on the project. There have been zero acquisitions so far. So it's at the very, very beginning of right-of-way. However, they do anticipate an estimated advertising in spring of 2027 with a construction start in the summer of 2027. So the scope of that project is redoing that intersection and installing a traffic signal.

Do you know if they've done appraisals?

I do not know. He didn't provide that information. I apologize.

No, no, it's a lot of frustration from Ward 5 and 6. And with the Stop 30 and Drake's Creek, more traffic's going to go there, which is just dangerous. Somebody's going to...

it's it's a dangerous but I know we've done all a mule can do all right yes you've been very quiet yeah that scares me feeling right you're you know you're that quiet that means sums up I don't know what it is but he's that quiet all right We're on to other business. Any other business going on? I was assuming that was the other business you'd like to discuss.

Streets to behave.

Right.

So are we on track of being able to do all of our streets that are in the current year budget?

As in the fiscal year 26 budget that we're currently in? Yes. Yes, the anticipation is that we will finish that saving with our current budget.

Wow.

So I know that this year we're spending less in paving, about a million dollars, maybe two million less?

About two.

Two million less than we have paid in the past. So I'm hopeful that, just as one alderman speaking, that as we get reimbursed from parks, the portion of parks with the state projects. You know what I'm talking about? I hope that at mid-year, we can look at putting that into painting and spending a little more on painting. Because I know I just got a call two days ago from somebody, Coal Street, and a board that's in terrible shape. So I just, as we go through this list, And as we move into the mid-year budget, I hope that any extra money that we can get, that's fine. It should be $400,000. Let's look at it. There's a painting there. Okay, but this looks good. Okay, it's good. Good deal. All right.

I had a call earlier today from one of our colleagues, Ward 6. I mean, excuse me, Ward 5. If you could look at this address on stormwater drainage, 140 River Chase. They've lived there, I know, probably since 1997. They have an issue with the water, with stormwater coming through, and there's a ditch behind their home. And any help that we can give them, or just give us an update actually, because it's got to come back to us. But I told Alderman Collins that I would go over and look at it, and I know you guys would too, 140 River Chase. And then I'm going to mention this. I'm at the board to let them know that she's doing her. Anytime an alderman calls me about something, if it's beneficial, you know, that it, I'm going to say it on TV because they're doing their work and I brought that back. So a lot of us old timers up here, we don't care one way or the other, but she's kind of new to the, you know, to the board, sort of, but she doesn't call that that much. So I know that that must be important. I'm going to run over and look at it, uh, depending on the rain, it's going to be, um, That right there, I guess that's the only thing that I have. Do you have something?

Well, we also wanted to talk about, there was a flooding that we got complaints about at the intersection at the bread box. Yes, I got a complaint on that.

Well, thank you for doing that.

It's done on Walton Ferry.

It's in the bread box.

So that's still a picture and it was standing water. Yeah. Okay.

That's, I believe, at the southern limit of that project, if I recall correctly.

Yeah. We're just flagging it for you to take a look at.

Yeah, because there is standing, and it's like every time it rains, there is standing water there. And it may be like a drainage issue in terms of the... the grill or the grade or whatever you call them. It might be just backed up, I'm not sure. I went over there during the water and I couldn't see down in there where the grade is to see because sometimes that happens over there on that side of town.

I'll email you.

And so we'll look into it. Okay, thank you. Casey, you've been awful quiet tonight too. Yeah, what's going on? Yeah, what's up?

Not a lot to talk about. You all are doing a great job.

Well, we're trying. Like I told the mayor this morning, I said, we've got a lot of projects that are happening in the city, and probably they're all public. I mean, you'll be able to see a lot of it. In the older times in public works, what we've had is work related in the neighborhoods, and now... We're expanding out into where people see it, so we're really doing a lot of things where people can see where their tax dollars are going. And I'm really happy to see that, and I'll be really super happy when they're completed. But there'll be something else after that. But that's just the wicked will that we have. Is there anything else this evening at Public Works? All right.

Motion to adjourn.

second all right motion to adjourn second and we end