Finance Committee - Regular Meeting

That's from last Yeah. From 25 to 26 years. So, we collected way more in October. Good evening. This is the finance committee meeting for December 9th, 2025. It is now 6:00 and I'm calling this meeting to order. Uh let's I guess we'll go around see who all is here. Um I've introduced myself. You want to start us off? Mark Evans. Uh Alderman Ward 6. Jesse Aroth, chief of operations. In Angresaw, finance director, Mayor Jamie Clary, David Lock, private citizen. Mark Burgdorf, alderman, ward one.

Andrew Hazler, private citizen, vice president, firefighters association. Thank you. Thank you very much. We just want to wish everyone a merry Christmas and everyone watching as well. Uh we this is our final meeting of the year. Um and so we're just looking forward to the season. So merry Christmas to you all. Um, let's get started by accepting the agenda. We need a motion. So moved and second. All those in favor? Any changes? No. Okay. All those in favor? I. That's improved. Uh, minutes from last meeting uh for September 23rd because we did not have an October meeting or November. Or November. That's right. I move to accept the minutes. Second.

All right. All those in favor? I I those are approved. Uh and did anyone sign up to public comments? No, sir. Okay. And we're on to ordinances, resolutions. Um we have a couple sort of companion ordinances that we're going to be discussing. Um just to let you know, we may take a break so we can go discuss over the general committee meeting as well. Uh but the first one's going to be reading of 2025-25 ordinance amending. Uh well, it's for impact fees. And this is the one sponsored by Collins and Clary. Um and so I need a motion to discuss that. So moved. Second. Okay. Um any what would you like to talk about?

Anything? Nothing in particular. I'm still um still need to read through all these ordinances to uh get a good idea. I think we just go ahead and discuss them here and then move them on to Bulma for a good discussion at that point as well. So everybody can put put their heads together and see about it.

Yeah, I tend to agree. I mean, these are very similar ordinances, but they do have some very defining differences. Um especially one is residential only and the other one is residential and commercial. So we should make sure that we're very clear on that. Um but it's so it's important to establish that. Uh but I agree that I I think we the best idea is for us to move these on to Bulma, but uh one give an opportunity for the the sponsored mayor since you're here. If you wanted to talk about your ordinance a little bit, maybe spend just a couple minutes and then you can talk about the other one here.

Sure. I think the biggest difference you'll find on page 35 and 36 and that shows uh the impact fee in the years that uh it would be uh it would be collected 2026. Uh and we would pick a reasonable date, a fair date and start that in 2026. Certainly won't be January 1st. Won't be at the earliest possible date by law which is typing on ours. We'll find a fair date so that builders can understand that they need to prepare for that. um 2027 if it stayed that and then it would increase 20028 2029 2030 we actually initially had take it RA and I had talked about taking that to 2035 because it would coincide with our uh our transportation plan uh especially since twothirds of the money as you turn to the next page go to roads uh and so this this will not apply to commercial just to residential single family multif family and then you see on the next page page 36 um how that breaks down is one/3 will go to parks, two/3s will go to roads um in both single family and multif family and see how much that actually comes out to. Those are the big differences. Um and it's all based on the study that we've had that we've had completed um uh which is uh pursuant to state law.

Uh great. I do have just one really quick question. What do you know about what percentage of the recommended uh amounts this that this covers? for parks and roads total. It is in here and I talked about it a bunch last week with Lance. Do you know what it is? One third parks 2/3. The percentage that we are it's somewhere in the 40 to 50%. Yeah. As far as Yeah. The total amount that that the report says that the study says we could have it was I I do remember roughly what it is. That was like 29 or something.

Yes, that's right. It changes each year changes a little bit. So, it runs up into 30% but it starts below 30% initially. I think it was like 29 33 37. Okay. That's the other ordinance. You're getting ahead of yourself.

Well, I'm losing my mind. And and if I could add one other item is that at some point we absolutely have to get the credits portion uh enacted with this but since we had two ordinance that are coming forward with impact fees. We made the credits ordinance we made the credits language a separate ordinance. We may decide as a board that we just amend one of the impact fee ordinances to add the credit language in there. So I know that the other ordinance has it in there already. Okay. Okay. Just um yeah. So, sorry to interrupt add that in. So, yeah, I would I would not be opposed to adding those together at all. Um, I did have a question on the credits portion since we're

you already answer one question that I can't answer. So, that's So, go ahead. Close out discussion on this one or can we lump it all in one? I'm I'm just procedurally. Okay. Yeah. As long as we get a motion and a second on how they're going to on each individual one as they're going to move forward. Okay. Um, so what was the reason behind having and maybe it's a question for you, uh, Mr. Ray, what was the reason behinding behind having the credits added to one but then separate in the other? We wanted to separate it and you all wanted to keep it in there. That's how the sponsor. Simple as that. I was directed by the sponsor. Okay.

Yeah. I just didn't want to get the I didn't want the board to get bogged down in discussing credits. Um, I wanted I wanted to focus on impact fees and then then we could discuss credits, but they have to go they they pretty much have to go in tandem. You guys want to do it all together and that's fine. It's just really uh preference. Okay, gotcha.

I I just I was I guess I was kind of surprised why this is come up. I knew we had a workshop and I I guess I thought that maybe we were going to hear back from uh the consultants and that we were um had some other people from the realtors association and from the developers that were going to provide some input for it and I thought we were going to have another workshop. Maybe I was wrong about that. So, I was kind of surprised that all of a sudden here at the end of of 2025, we've got two uh proposals, ordinances that we're looking at. So, I I just to me it seemed like rushed

and and maybe it's not, but uh I just it just seemed like all of a sudden we talked about it, then we didn't hear anything for two months, and then now here it is that we're having moment. So, I I tend to agree with you on that. I was unable to attend the uh first uh workshop. Uh but for all intents and purposes, I feel like we do need to slow down a little bit and make sure that we do get the right project uh get the right ordinance for what the city needs best. I agree with you there, Mark. Was there I mean, am I wrong? Was there going to be another discussion with um the or or was that it

from from the consultant's perspective? He he's issued final reports. Okay. Okay. We did at the meeting. Um there were u uh two parties that said they would provide some information to the city. Um we have received one of them. We have not received another one. Oh, okay. So, we do at least have one that we can share. We just Mr. Stewart, is that correct? We We do not have one. We do not have one. We have Mr. Lester. Yes. Okay.

Can I say something about those? I just wrote a real short letter. I didn't get into a whole lot of detail about this. I mean, you run down a rabbit hole. I didn't want to run down a rabbit hole with two different ordinances and and looking at the the the study that was completed by the consultant. It was just done October in October 29th. Surely not I hadn't seen that till today. So there wasn't any more thought as far as having any more workshops or discussion about the impact fee. It's it's we're now to the point where we have two ordinances and that's what we're going to consider.

I mean as a board we could decide to have another workshop if we chose to and push push these down the road. I would be in favor of that. I I'm I probably would be too, but then I'm also kind of the others. You know, we've been talking about this for a while, too. So, I just to me I was just a little surprised when I got the agenda that these were on there. I'd not heard anything at all and then all of a sudden they're on there. Not that saying that that's bad or I just thought that there was going to be more discussion on it. I think from a consultant standpoint, we have we've really beat I think we have I get it. But, you know, my credit system or something like that, you know, that's bonus decision. But, okay.

I'll tell you, one of the first things I'm gonna do in the next couple days, I'm gonna call David on call Brian and say, "Hey, let's sit down and get give me your thoughts." And I and I welcome you all to do the same thing. David's pretty transparent guy. Good. Okay. What do you think about having a public forum or um what's the word I'm thinking of? Public hearing. Public hearing. Thank you. public hearing at the next BOMA when when we're going to be considering impact fees. Typically, we'll run a public hearing on the second reading. So, um we I mean I guess potentially we we could do it. I don't know if it's required. I don't I have Well, I guess it's not required, but

we can make it a public hearing. That's that's up to the board if they want to make it a public hearing. Utilize citizen comment. Well, and one of the other things we're doing is we're going to have the planning commission weigh in on it and they also have public comment opportunities as well. Okay, good. What's the reason procedurally? What's the reason for having public hearing on the second one versus the first? Uh there's some time limitations uh for public hearing. Okay. Before it's uh passed on second reading. Okay. Okay. I mean, you can't you can't schedule a public hearing and then wait like months and months before you have

21 days before you act on it. How soon can you have a public hearing? Can you schedule one and then how soon can you do it? Because like 48 hours notified. Yeah. No, there's you have to do weeks. So public hearings publish it and then you have weeks has to be published what 10 days 12 days before the actual hearing or something like public hearing does. Okay, gotcha. Something 10 weeks. I would be curious to hear what citizens think of this as well. Need some feedback.

We don't know at all by any means. No representative said some comments. Yes. Some people don't know if they sign if they should sign up on public hearing or citizen comments anyway. But yeah, I understand what you're saying. Yeah, just uh having a public hearing is bit more formal to it and uh then it gets announced out to the public that it's available to them. So um anything anything you want to discuss on the on the second one and then we can we can start uh

do you want to suspend the rules to just consider is that what we're doing? not suspend the rules just uh we well actually okay why don't we go ahead and vote on the first one um and I I want to make a a motion to move it to uh to Bulma with a neutral recommendation uh which I which I'm going to encourage we do for all of them because there they are two very similar but very different as well ordinances and I I want to talk to everyone about it. So, uh, anyways, I make that motion that we approve with the neutral recommendation. Yeah. Okay. Okay. All those in favor? Okay. Uh, you want to second that? You want me to second? Oh, you can second. Okay.

Uh, and same thing for the for the credit one that that accompanies it. Neutral recommendation since they're they're combined. I make that motion. Second. I. All those in favor? I. Okay. That's unanimous. All right. Um, anything specific you want to talk about the other uh ordinance that is sponsored by Martin Sassis? Good morning, Berdorf. Uh, the only thing I'll say on that one is it was it was set at a 50% like uh Mr. Ray said, 50% of what was recommended for residential and commercial. Um, there's uh and so there's 50% for parks, 50% for roads, but of course there's no parks on the commercial side, so those are all zero.

Right. I guess one question I would want to ask is I know that's probably the biggest difference between the two is and obviously the amount but why why one would only be looking at uh residential and the other was looking at residential and commercial sponsor preference. Okay. Yeah. And I would want to hear you know what was what's the the hope or the desire of the the commercial side of it or is there any downfall to it? Well, and that's part of what we want to hear from from the public hearing. That's all. I also do have some thoughts on that. Okay. Good. But I want to reserve those forma so we can get everyone to say it twice. And dude also address his email. Yeah. Question.

Okay. Good. All right. So, and for that one, I'll also make the motion that we send it to Bulma with the neutral recommendation. A second. All those in favor? I I I. And that passes unanimously. All right. Uh, shall we take a Do we know where they are? They I haven't gotten the text yet. Okay. So, well, then we will just continue on until we receive that text. Unless they forgot. They won't forget.

All right. Uh, next we have reading of ordinance 2025-24, an ordinance to amend title 5 municipal finance and taxation to allow for the acceptance of partial payments for city of Hendersonville real and personal property taxes. And I'm the sponsor, so I will move that we move that for discussion. Second. All right. Um, so this would allow and Tamara, actually Tamara, can you speak on it? You know a heck of a lot more about it than I.

Absolutely. So, this ordinance um if passed would allow beginning with next with the 2026 tax year for us to be able to allow um citizens that come in to make a partial payment on their property tax. Basically, set up a payment plan between October and February and come in and pay monthly on their property taxes. Um historically, we have not had the capability with our software to be able to do that. We just implemented a new software that has that functionality. Um, so every year we have a handful of citizens that are typically um fixed income. They qualify for either the property tax freeze or the property tax relief program that ask, can I just pay $100 now and come and pay $100 next month. Well, we haven't been able to accommodate that. So, we would like to be able to um do that for those um citizens. They would have to come in in person to do that. Um there were some questions before related to if that would encourage um larger businesses to only pay part of their taxes and part later. I don't think that's an issue. The majority of them don't pay until January or February anyway, the folks that owe the large one. But it would benefit this would benefit some of those fixed income folks that make it easier for them to budget month over month to pay this.

That's a I'm glad you said that about the difference between the commercial and residential because that was a question I had as well. Yeah, that question had come up before as we were talking about putting this together. I think it's I think it's a great plan. I'd like to co-sponsor that if you like. Absolutely. Okay. Love that. Um yeah, I I especially now that we have the capability of doing so. I think this is important for our citizens to do. It's just it's the right thing. Easy enough to do and it's easy enough. It's very easy and we're not going to be charging for this for this building. We're just going to split it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And it'll be in two payments or can they do more than two payments?

They um the we we had to map out a plan on here. So the plan is that um we did it that they can do five monthly payments between October and February. That mirrors what Sumar County does. It mirrors what Gallatin does. So that way we're being consistent with the other cities in our area. Um we do have a limit. They can't pay less than $50. Um as a you know, we don't want to set up payments less than $50. And then if they are getting the a relief program through the state, that um relief payment applies to the very end of their property tax. Um Oh, good. So it's it's the last payment. It doesn't doesn't apply to the first payment. So we said for and all of that is based on recommendations from MTAS and um following the TCA on that. What relief program are we discussing in particular?

The tax relief program when they state that they come in. Okay. Yes. Um, and also we won't we're not going to be publicly advertising this. It's just going to be as people walk in and they ask about it, it's available to Yeah. And it'll be for next tax year. Um, by the time this is approved, it'll be the end of January. So, it won't, you know, it won't have any effect for the current tax year, but it will be be there and available for folks in the coming year. This is a great opportunity. Thank you for bringing this forward. S. Absolutely. Any other discussion? All those in favor say I. I. I. That passes with a positive recommendation. Yes. Okay. All right. That's what I got. Missed that part. I got that.

She knew she missed that part. All right. Looks like still we're going to go ahead and take a break. Uh we can go. Yes. Wait. Hold on. Hold on. Yes. 510. Just a 10-minute break. Okay.

We are reconvening. Okay, you're live. Live now. Great. All right. Uh, welcome back. Um, next we have on the agenda resolution 202545, a resolution establishing a purchasing card policy for the city of Harrisville and to replace the existing card policy dated July 14th, 2020 or 2009 with the new policy upon implementation of the purchasing purchasing card program. Do you want to tell us? That was a mouthful. That was a mouthful. Sorry. And it's about time that we have a It is about time we have coming. Yes. Yes. Very long time coming.

So glad to see that. So the the quick version of this I guess is that we are moving forward hopefully with a purchasing card program that will um replace our very old antiquated credit card program where we have a card assigned to most one card assigned to most departments and one card shared between several at city hall where people check in a card and go use it and bring it back and it's very inefficient and the card sharing if there's an odd charge charge on it. You know, you know who's checked it out, but did they hand that card to somebody else who made a purchase? It's just not um internal control best practices. It's it's not a good idea. So, moving forward with the PC card program allows us a lot of flexibility to set limits for individual card holders

depending on their role, depending on the needs of the department. We can turn cards off immediately through an online portal. This is all through central purchasing finance. Yeah, finance will be coordinating the implementation um of you'll set the limits and all that. Yeah, we'll get recommendations from the department heads, but all the limits are approved by finance. Um for the finance staff, um the final approval of the limits will be approved by Jesse.

Um just, you know, for that separation, make sure make sure we're um you know, good. Um and then we'll be monitoring the program um throughout over the first year or so to see what people are actually spending and then adjust credit limits um appropriately. We are also developing a training program. So anybody who is assigned a card who who actually gets a gets a um PC card will go through a training that outlines what they're expected you know what documentation they're expected doing. you know, making sure they're turning in receipts that are itemized. Um

that that what they can purchase, what they can't purchase. The policy um that's included in here outlines what are um prohibited purchases. Um it talks about what the consequences are if you violate the policy. Um you know, may maybe, you know, a warning. It I mean, depending on how egregious it is, it could be all the way up through termination if they use it um to buy things for personal use. Um so it's a much better um place than where we have been. You know the current policy is 16 16 years old and it's just time for an update time for an update.

We're not changing processors that the company that's managing this or are we Yes, we are. We will ask who's the fin. So, um, the state has a statewide contract with US Bank for PE cards that we're going to piggy bank on. Okay. So, and, um, I'm I'm very com my old agency used US Bank and we're very pleased with them as a PE card provider. And what's the co administration cost on this? It I mean there'll be some implementation um time that staff there's not going to be any additional dollar cost to implement it. There's no fees as far from US Bank.

No. And then depending on our um spend, there will be um rebates that come back um when depending on how much we spend, we get um rebates back. Fantastic. Yeah. There won't be any there won't be any cost to the city. Now, if we pay late, we we would have to pay interest. But, you know, assuming that we pay our bills on time, which we, you know, are dedicated to doing, we pay Rogers company with the car $6 million. get those rebates back, pave another 100 miles of road with those rebates. You know, and there are actually we'll end up with some staff time savings once this is implemented. We we currently have

I don't know the exact number, but there are many, many, many, many little lines of credit at a whole bunch of um different businesses. Ace Hardware, a tractor supply company, where they go in and they buy something and we get an invoice and we're keying that invoice in to pay and then we have to reconcile that account at the end of the month. So with this, we should be able to close the majority of those small little accounts and be able to just have one the PC card accounts to reconcile every month. So it'll so much more efficient. So much more efficient. Why did we not do this two years ago? because we were busy implementation technology. Yeah.

And now that we've now that we're at the tail end of that, now we can move on to to additional. We just got a finance director two years ago as well. Something like that. That's true. Is that about right? I just hit three years. You did hit three years. Congratulations. Actually, I think what's the date today? The 9th. I think technically the 12th on I think Friday is my tech is my official three years. stay in, right? Mhm. Okay, good. I need two more years to be vested with TCRS. I need more than that to pay for my kids college, so you guys are stuck with me.

All right, any other questions on 2025-45? Uh, did not do this at the beginning, so I need a motion and a second. I make a motion that we move this to to Bulma. I think it's a great program. with a positive recommendation. Positive. Second. All right. I agree. All those in favor? I. And that passes with a positive recommendation. Uh we still have time. So let's move on to number six. Discussion of property tax bills for 1455 and 1473 Centerpoint Road. This is in W three. So yes, this is right in your on your doorstep. It really is. Where is this? Uh

it's over um it's on Center Point Road. It's right near the entrance to Manser Farms. Oh, it's right right o right over there off. Yeah. So, a little bit of background on this one. Um the mayor asked me to put this on here to get some um thoughts from from you all. So, there's two properties 1455 and 1473 Centerpoint Road that were donated by the developer to the city. Oh.

Well, for a dollar. Um, and that happened in October of 2024, so year ago. And when that happened, there were some taxes that were due from the on on those property taxes. There was property taxes due on both of those properties that didn't get paid before the title, before the deed was handed over to the city. the developer has said, I am not going to pay those fees, those property taxes because we gave you this land that's worth way more. So that's on you guys. So there are taxes due from prior to the city taking ownership that are due to both the city and the county. Um so the you know we just wanted to bring this to the finance finance committee to have a conversation about it. Um this on page 247 in the packet, you'll see a summary for each of the individual um ones. If these bills are paid prior to the end of December, that's the first column there. That's how much we would have to pay in total. Just both of them end up just under $1,000.

If they were paid in January, there would be one additional month of interest that would have to be paid on on those. Um essentially both of them under $1,000. Yes, we would have to pay quote unquote pay ourselves for the city portion of that um in order to be able to clear those bills off of the um books and then we would have to make a payment to the county as well. Um I don't think there would be a ne necess it would be necessary to do a budget amendment in order to pay them but um I know the mayor asked me to put this on here so we could talk about it so you guys were aware that these were out there. So, um, if I may, please. Thank you. Both of these pieces of property are,

um, along Centerpoint Road, are they utilized by the city in any way? And they really couldn't be. That was my other question. Why did the developer decide to give them to the city? Do you recall? Do you have any ideas? So, go back to the late 90s when Shannon Place, which then became Manser Farms, correct? uh was under was under consideration

and there were a lot of conversations about pools and even golf courses and fireh halls. Um, and the developers didn't get what they wanted and so they end up going to court and it wasn't clear what the judge expected to be deed donated to the city and uh at some point they the developer felt like they were supposed to uh deed land to the city for a fire hall. Okay. Uh and we built what was going to be in Manser Farms we built out of Durham Farms. Mhm. Uh and um and then rebuild fire hall 2 uh which is primary to Manscore

farms. Uh so they uh they still want to uh deed that land to us but we really don't have much use for it. Okay. How much land is it? Is it a total of about an acre between the two of them? The two lots little less I should say. I'd say, yeah, I'd say about an acre to acre and a half. There's one acre. Both. Are they both listed on here? It's There's one says 1.59. Oh, really? Yeah. Let's see. And uh 1455 and 1473 center point. The same account.

So, so there's a good portion of it that has a slope that is going to be unbuildable. Okay. It's sort of like almost core of engineers land. You might own three acres, but you really own one. Yeah. Okay. So, about one and a half each it looks like. As far as total acres.

I'm sure there's other land the city has been given over the years that we have like this. And I had a conversation two weeks ago about somebody gives us land. I said, "No thanks." If it's just a liability, we don't want it. It's like that. It's like that land that's right there in Durham Farms that it's like just give it back to change it to address on the property search. Change it to search by address. The thing you just closed search. Yeah. That's search by address. Yeah. And it's 1455 road. If I do fear that if we told them we didn't want the land that they would feel that gave them license to build the houses.

Yeah. The deed it's already been deed to the city over a year ago. Okay. And that's that's part of we said, "Yeah, we want the land." But don't put any restrictions on. Yeah. And we have coordinated with um the county already. So the taxes for the 2025 tax year were were marked as taxexempt. And that's been taken care of. This is just that old 2024 from the prior. Oh, is this the land that's after the main entrance before the turn? Okay. Right there. That bridge, right? Right. Well, it's right. It's before the bridge because you also have that power station there, too. Okay. Yeah. So, yes, right next to the power station and then it's one of the other two right next to it.

So, y'all can't this committee can't tell me what to do and you can't tell the board what to do, but I'd like some direction on what to do with taxes. What do you want to do with since we can't tell you what to do? What do you want to do? I don't want to pay him, but I want to get this done with. So, in order to get it done with, we have Well, we have to pay the taxes that they're What could we do with that land? I know we can't. We're not really going to want to build on it, but Could we then sell it to Manser Farms for them to do something with it? Uh, I mean, possibly. I'm not sure what they'd want to do with it. Well, anytime you have land, it's an asset. Unless you're putting nothing on there but just mowing it. We have the will go

pickle ball courts. It's not big enough for a pool. And you anything you got to do, you got to think of parking and restrooms. Um is it a dog park? Maybe. Is it um is just a passive area? Maybe. That's a total of three acres. Yeah. So, and it doesn't have very good access. No, you've got a you've got a crook in the road right nearby there. So, turning in and out isn't the best situation. Pretty much the only reason I was interested in fulfilling what the judge said by having them give us the land is so they wouldn't build houses on it. Yeah, I would agree with that. So, moving forward, you you recommend paying the pay the taxes on it. I think of all our options to finish this whole thing up is paying the taxes on it.

How much? I don't see no rough, thousand. I thought it was a thousand each. Mm-m. Mm- No, each each property is just under each property is just under 500. The total at the bottom is the combined for the two properties. Okay, there it is. And it's in two columns depending on what month if we were to pay it in December versus January. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I said I mean if the mayor wants to go ahead and take care of it, then let's just go ahead and So, we're taking care of it and but then there's going to be taxes every year that Oh, it's not tax exempt since we only do tax exempt. Let's just do it and be done with it. I'll make a motion. Well, we Well, we need to take care of the land. Is there their maintenance? I mean, yeah,

that's why I'm kind of thinking if we could sell it to Manser Farms, we'd have to take care of it, but we could sell it for them for 1,500, make a profit. So, so we did talk to the developer and said, "Okay, this is by right our land. Do y'all want to buy it back from us?" And they want to put houses on it. We said, "Okay, that's fine with that." Well, maybe something will come up. between now and next year. I mean, there's all kinds of things that people want to do. Dog park, I mean, that's Yeah. I mean, I live in Manser Farms, as you know. We don't have a dog park. So, if they if we could justify that be great. The community would appreciate that.

Community leases it from the city for a dollar a year or whatever and they can utilize it and they could and then they maintain it. They maintain it. Yeah. Absolutely. I like that. Uh, does somebody want to make a mo or I guess there's no motion to be made on this. It sounds like y'all are in agreement that Yeah, we are. Yeah, let's let's just get this over with. Hold on, Mark. Shaking his head. Oh, no, no, no. Okay. Well, I know. Let's get it done. Okay, y'all are in agreement. Sorry. In my mind, I'm just thinking this is just really I I mean, I appreciate the guidance. Well, thank you for asking. Um, we have 15 minutes. Do you all want to go over our analysis? Yeah, I think you still have you still have two more items.

Oh gosh. Which will take 30 seconds. Uh let me go back. Number seven. Uh oh. Okay. Discussion of letter to Sar County regarding funds bequet to the Hendersonville Public Library. Yes. Uh mayor, could you give us an update on that? You have a copy of that letter on page 254 and 254 through 256. Uh I just since they have a new library board, I sent a letter to the chairman and copied all the other me board uh members by email uh updating them and telling them the situation uh and asking that they uh pay us $161,000 of the $320,000 that was bequeaf to the owners of the Hendersonville library,

which we are 50% on. Exactly. Haven't heard back from them. Uh the adequate facilities uh tax situation. And I should really turn this over to Lance. Well, um I Yeah, go ahead, Lance. I I as I understand, there's no real update. And are we talking about the AFT letter?

Yeah. Um the the letter that we received last week um it uh is still demanding the the payment, but it's also requesting that um for some information on some permits that were issued that we need to get with codes with to gather that information and collect it. Um it also the letter is demanding compliance with the uh the uh confirmation that AFT has been paid which we have been doing as soon as coach was clear about what it was that they were supposed to be doing back last uh last or this past year I guess this past summer

24p. Oh yeah. So, um, they they've immediately complying. I They immediately began doing it. So, they're already doing that. We just need to collect some more information. And I recommended that we get the information, look at it again, and then talk about who's the next finance committee. Want to just defer that? Yeah. Continue continue to January. Absolutely. Yeah. Let's um push it down the road um and discuss it. Continue discussing until we get this resolved. Yeah. And get the information that they're they're requesting. Yeah. and and I'll work with codes to to forward this message to them. Okay, great. Um, how many

I have a question for both of these things for the EF EFT AFT and for the um the library it could be that we're at impass that you know we think one way the county thinks another. Where do we think that that's going to end up being? It would be up to the county to litigate it to the city for I'm not sure for theft, but for the library, we would probably we would be the one probably that would sue the county. Maybe not because we are and I and I need to make you aware of this. Are you saying I shouldn't say I'm about I don't know what you're going to say, but I'm just still nervous about what you're saying. Okay.

Okay. But as far as the I can't speak to the library. Uh but the AFT um I would imagine that the next step would be county. Okay. Okay. When y'all tell um well what do you think? Should we go ahead and adjourn? We have the tax information. We've lost a member. So I'm good with where everything is. I make a motion that we adjourn. All right. I second that. All those in favor? night. I I