City Council - Regular Meeting

Tuesday, June 9, 2026

The Hemet City Council met on June 9, 2026, addressing several key issues including the approval of Councilmember Lodge’s remote participation, a report on city vacancies, and the adoption of the Urban Water Management Plan. The meeting also featured presentations on various proclamations and a final report from the Hemet Youth Council on their inaugural year.

About this meeting

Government Body
City Council
Meeting Type
City Council
Location
Hemet, CA
Meeting Date
June 9, 2026

Transcript

339 sections

0:39 – 0:53Speaker 18

Not yet. Okay. Good evening. I would call this June 9th 2026 closed session City Council boy and I've got feedback. City Council meeting to order city clerk, may we please have a roll call?

1:05 – 1:21Speaker 18

HERE. AND I DO BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER LODGE WILL BE JOINING US BY PHONE IN CLOSED SESSION AND THEN ALSO WHEN WE COME BACK DOWN TO OPEN SESSION. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENTS. CITY CLERK, DO YOU HAVE ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS?

1:23 – 1:09:03Speaker 18

IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WANTS TO MAKE A COMMENT ON A CLOSED SESSION ITEM? SEEING NONE, WE WILL PROCEED TO CLOSED SESSION. and we will be back here at six o'clock. Good evening, everyone. Good evening, everyone. It's going to be a great evening. I would like to call the June 9th, 2026 regular City Council meeting to order. City Clerk, may we have a roll call, please?

1:09:14Speaker 15

Councilmember Clark? Present. Councilmember Lodge?

1:09:18Speaker 15

Councilmember Peterson? Here. Mayor Pochette-Males? Here.

1:09:22 – 1:09:51Speaker 15

Here. Mayor, if I may, before we continue, I just would like to announce that Councilmember Lodge is participating remotely under the Just Cause provisions under 82449. Councilmember Lodge is appearing remotely due to medical reasons, which requires him to participate remotely. We also have one other item we must enter into the record. Council Member Lodge, can you disclose if there's anyone else in the room with you over the age of 18, and if so, your relationship with that person?

1:09:52Speaker 7

Yep, the room is empty.

1:09:54Speaker 15

Mayor, we will need a motion and a second to approve Council Member Lodge's request to participate remotely under the just cost provisions under AB 2449.

1:10:03Speaker 19

Thank you. I have a motion to approve. I'll do a motion to approve Tom Lodge on remote.

1:10:11Speaker 18

Okay, we have a motion and a second.

1:10:13Speaker 15

Roll call vote. Clark? Yes. Lodge?

1:10:17Speaker 15

Peterson? Yes. Mayles? Yes. Rupa? Yes.

1:10:21 – 1:10:33Speaker 18

Thank you. All right, thank you very much. The invocation tonight will be by Pastor Luis Jerezon with Victory Outreach, after which Councilmember Clark will lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance. Please stand.

1:10:37 – 1:11:01Speaker 26

Amen. Father, we come before your presence, Lord God, and Lord, we ask for wisdom. Lord, we ask for wisdom, God, that you would help, Lord, our city officials to make the right decisions, Lord. And I pray for each one of them. And I also pray, Lord, for the fire department and the police department, and you will continue protecting their lives. So, Lord, we thank you in the name of Jesus. Amen.

1:11:01Speaker 19

Please remove your hats. Place your right hand over your heart.

1:11:25 – 1:11:36Speaker 18

Thank you, everyone. Moving on to the City Attorney Closed Session Report.

1:11:37 – 1:11:54Speaker 3

Thank you, Mayor. On Item 5A, the City Council gave direction by a vote of 5-0. On Item 5B, the City Council gave authorization to initiate litigation against Southern California Edison by a vote of 5-0. That concludes the reportable action from this evening's closed session.

1:11:54 – 1:12:07Speaker 18

Thank you very much. Moving on to presentations. Our first proclamation for National Month of Prayer will be presented by Mayor Pro Tem Mayles to the Pastors Prayer Council. Would you all come up?

1:12:33 – 1:14:39Speaker 11

This proclamation is for National Month of Prayer. Whereas in periods of peace and prosperity and times of struggles and strife, countless individuals turn to prayer to seek guidance, bolster their faith, embrace their spirits, when they need it most. And whereas prayer is both a personal and communal act composed of our most ultimate thoughts and practices observed by multitudes across the diverse nation in every language, culture, religion, and belief system, And whereas the right to pray is enshrined in our Constitution and stamped firmly in the American tradition by the belief that prayer moves mountains, a belief of making the impossible possible. And whereas throughout history, prayer has empowered moral movements and fueled efforts to strengthen democracy, deeply rooted in the fight to abolish slavery and the expansion of voting rights and voter access. and whereas we will never fully understand how prayer has quietly influenced every aspect of individuals' lives, bringing comfort to service members on the battlefield, grounding the spirits of astronauts in space, guiding the healing hands of medical professionals tending to our loved ones and fortifying the faiths of millions of worshipers in every corner of our nation, there is hardly an aspect of American life that is not touched by the silent prayer supplications to fulfill our hopes and aspirations. Now, therefore, Linda Krupa, Mayor of the City of Hemet, along with the Hemet City Council, hereby proclaim the month of June 2026 as National Month of Prayer and encourage all residents of the City of Hemet to observe this month, reflecting on the blessings our city has received and the importance of prayer by focusing on prayer and incorporating prayer into their daily lives

1:14:40 – 1:15:19Speaker 28

all month long thank you thank you sir and with us we have two pastors from our local churches oh all right oh okay uh yeah hey thank you uh we've got uh in the pastors prayer council we have 18 pastors And we are the two that were able to make it tonight. One of them's in Cambodia, another one's in Arizona, one's in Scotland or Holland or something. Yeah, they're all over the place. So we are here, and we want to say thank you very much. God bless.

1:15:22 – 1:15:40Speaker 26

Once again, thank you to the city council also for this. And that's one of the things we get together once a week, and we pray. We pray for the city, police department, fire department, and for our city. And thank you again for partnering with us. Thank you.

1:15:41 – 1:15:59Speaker 11

Thank you, sir. Thank you for all the prayers. Thank you. Oh, I've got to have the picture. Thank you. You guys can put the proclamation outside.

1:16:01 – 1:16:16Speaker 18

Our next proclamation is for the U.S. Army's 251st birthday, and it will be presented by Councilmember Peterson to Army veterans of the Hemet Police Department. Come on down, Reyes.

1:16:28 – 1:18:59Speaker 16

Proclamation for the 251st birthday of the United States Army. Whereas on June 14th, 1775, the Second Continental Congress formed the Continental Army, marking the birth of the United States Army and laying the foundation for our nation's defense and freedom. Whereas for 251 years, the United States Army has stood as a symbol of courage, dedication, and sacrifice, serving with unwavering commitment in nearly every major conflict in American history and protecting the liberties of our citizens and the principles upon which our nation was founded. The Army has distinguished itself as a versatile and resilient force fighting on the front lines of battle, providing humanitarian aid, and supporting peacekeeping missions around the globe. The Army's core values of loyalty, duty, respect, selfless service, honor, integrity, and personal courage continue to inspire and uphold the highest traditions of military service. And whereas generations of soldiers have served with honor and distinction at home and abroad, ensuring peace, security, and humanitarian assistance across the globe, Whereas we recognize the more than 700,000 soldiers currently serving and commend the commitment of our local veterans, service members, and military families who strengthen our community with their resilience and patriotism. Whereas the 251st anniversary of the United States Army is a historic milestone and an opportunity for all Americans to express our gratitude and appreciation for the service and sacrifice of the men and women of the Army. signed by Linda Krupa, along with the Hemet City Council, we proclaim the day of June 14th, 2026, as the 251st birthday of the United States Army, and urge all citizens to honor, celebrate, and recognize the courageous men and women of the United States Army for their enduring service to our nation. Thank you, sir.

1:19:07Speaker 18

How long were you in?

1:19:20Speaker 1

Thank you. I really appreciate through on Toronto. Thank you very much. Thank you.

1:19:28 – 1:19:41Speaker 18

Thank you to both of you for your service. Moving on to proclamation for Juneteenth, National Independence Day will be presented by Council Member Clark to Black Voices of the Valley Board Member, Sharon Jackson.

1:19:55 – 1:22:18Speaker 19

So it is a federal holiday, but not all of us get that day off. So I will be missing Friday, and I want to send my regrets, but I'll be there in spirit. Not everybody... Small business. Thank you. And this is a proclamation for Juneteenth National Independence Day. Whereas Juneteenth or Juneteenth Independence Day. Thanks, that's a tongue twister. commemorates the traditional observance of the end of slavery in the United States and is observed annually on June 19th. And whereas on January 1, 1863, President Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation, declaring that all persons held as slaves within any state or designated part of a state, the people whereof shall then be in rebellion against the United States, shall then henceforward and forever free, and whereas slavery is a violation of the principles of the Declaration of Independence and its abolition represented a new birth of freedom for the United States. and whereas Juneteenth is the oldest nationally celebrated commemoration of the ending of slavery, and whereas Juneteenth is a significant opportunity to honor the principles of the Declaration of Independence and celebrate the achievements and contributions African Americans have made and continue to make in Hemet and across our nation, Now, therefore, Linda Krupa, Mayor of the City of Hemet, along with us on the Hemet City Council, hereby proclaim the day of June 19th, 2026 as Juneteenth National Independence Day and encourage all residents. to join in reflecting on the enduring struggles for freedom and equality for black Americans and to affirm our collective commitment to combating racism and fostering equity within our communities and institutions.

1:22:35 – 1:23:15Speaker 24

Okay, so thank you very much for this prestigious proclamation. I really appreciate that. I know that, I mean, I never was in slavery, but probably my ancestors were, and it's really awesome to be able to live in a country of freedom. So it's an honor for me to be part of the Black Voices of the Valley, to represent the black Americans in this city. So we hope and pray that we are making a difference. So thank you so much.

1:23:37Speaker 18

For our last presentation this evening, members of the Hemet Youth Council will be presenting a final report on their inaugural year.

1:24:09Speaker 22

Oh, there we go. Perfect.

1:24:12 – 1:25:18Speaker 20

Good evening, Mayor, council members, city staff. My name is Jennifer Cortez. I'm the city's communication and events coordinator and also one of the advisors to the Youth Council. So last year, beginning of 2025, the inaugural Youth Council was established. This was really a true working of the city council after they recognized that the youth's voice was underrepresented in an underrepresented group in the city. And so the purpose of the youth council was to really foster that connection between city council, the youth, foster civic engagement, and give the youth a platform for them to also contribute to the decisions that are affecting the issues in their community. And so the inaugural youth council was launched with 19 members and they have just finished their term. They began July 1st and they'll be wrapping up all this month. And to tell you a little bit about their experience and to talk through some of the projects and initiatives and different activities that they've been a part of, we have a few representative here who are gonna take the stage to let you all know what went on in this past year.

1:25:32 – 1:26:54Speaker 23

Hi, my name is Elias Acuna. I was a council member on the Hemet Youth Council, and I want to go over the survey project. As the committee's first completed accomplishment, it was to get the youth's perspective on Hemet and basically what they think about what's going on and to get really just our youth's perspective on everything. This taught the committee how to work a database website that would help with decision making. And it helped teach the importance of trial and error, especially with the people who are on the ad hoc for the survey. We really learned the logistics and what could and what couldn't be included on a survey, like certain things that had to go through the legal process in order to be able to put out the survey to the youth. And I think overall the survey helped to communicate to the younger population of Hemet and gathered their perspective on issues within the city regarding the youth. Our survey focused on the mental health and how really they felt involved in their community in Hemet and what we can do to change that. So that was what our survey was about. And it didn't completely go through due to issues with money, but we hope that we can set the foundation for the next Hemet City Youth Council to continue with our project and hopefully get out our survey. Thank you. Thank you.

1:26:56Speaker 18

Thank you very much.

1:27:01 – 1:30:17Speaker 25

Hi, I'm Catherine DaCosta. I was a member of the Hemet City Youth Council as well. I worked closely with the marketing ad hoc, and our first introduction to that was when some of us were interviewed for what made Hemet, Hemet, and how we could redesign the logo in a way that fully encapsulates what Hemet is. You'll notice all the fancy stylized H's and the sunset, those were all revisions made after people across all age groups were interviewed to understand what Hemet meant to them. Our first introduction to this was when we were able to look at the different versions, the different color palettes, how many palm trees we wanted in each of the logos. These things might seem really minuscule, but they proved to be very important because it's sort of the first thing that someone will see when understanding the broader context of Hemet. And because of that, we learned the importance of how a logo can affect, you know, the city's reputation, its society, the economic aspects of it as well. I mean, when something looks good, it's a lot more enticing than the previous logo, which we had, which you'll notice that many cities share. It's a river and mountains and, well, that's all over America. The next thing we looked at was we went on a tour of Simpson Park, and we focused on their goals to make the place a little more sort of community involved. And we focused on their Elevate goals. So we went to share our perspective on how we can make Simpson Park more engaged with the youth and what we can provide. Some things that we learned was in the 1990s, I think there was a bio class from Hemet High School that was at Simpson Park. which I think would be great to encourage students to go up there and hike to Simpson Park in a manner that is safe so that it's school-led and all of those things. We learned about how important it is to keep the history of the park so that residents who've been living in the neighboring areas for a really long time don't feel as if their history is being stripped away. We also talked about equity, vitality, and access. We want to make sure it's accessible to people who use wheelchairs, who might not necessarily have what you would consider traditional abilities to hike up and down the mountain in the park. We also talked about the different trails. They could use a bit more, I guess, clearance. I think they're very difficult to know exactly where the trails are, so it makes it a lot more complicated for people to go up there when they want to. And we also talked about having holiday events and seasonal events, so maybe a pumpkin patch there temporarily or a Christmas movie night. And the next thing that we did was the Weston Park rebranding. We got to look at all of the different plans that we had for Weston Park, including the splash pad and the shuffleboard room repurposing. The main concern for us was the population of the homeless people and the parking concerns as well, because we wanted to make sure that this park doesn't just help the people within our generation and the youth, but also all the people who want to gather within community events that could be held at Weston Park. Thank you.

1:30:26 – 1:31:31Speaker 22

Hello, my name is Freya Ewald and I was also a member of the Hemet Youth Council. Today I'm here to present the department tour. So another important experience for the committee was touring several city departments including the fire department, police department, and public library. These tours gave AS A BEHIND-THE-SCENES LOOK AT THE CHALLENGES EACH OF THESE DEPARTMENTS FACES ON A DAILY BASIS. AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE LEARNED ABOUT THE PHYSICAL DEMANDS OF THE JOB, THE NEED TO RESPOND QUICKLY IN EMERGENCIES, AND THE IMPORTANCE OF MAINTAINING EQUIPMENT AND READINESS AT ALL TIMES. AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE SAW HOW OFFICERS BALANCE COMMUNITY AND PUBLIC SAFETY, ALL WHILE USING A VARIETY OF TOOLS AND SHOWING THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY OFFER. DURING THE LIBRARY TOUR, WE LEARNED ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE BUILDING AND THE LIBRARIAN'S ROLE in managing resources, supporting educational programs, and serving a wide range of community needs. Overall, these experiences helped us better understand both the responsibilities and challenges involved in providing essential public services. Thank you.

1:31:39 – 1:32:51Speaker 21

Good evening. I'm Secretary Aguilar, and I was a part of the ad hoc committee for the Chords of Chaos. Chords of Chaos was a musical festival that we were supposed to hold at the Ramona Bowl, hosting local high school bands and local vendors so they have that opportunity of exposure. OUR AD HOC COMMITTEE PLANNED FOR SIX MONTHS, NOVEMBER TO APRIL. EVERYTHING WAS IN THE BUDGET. THERE WERE PLANS FOR MERGE, PARKING RSVP, AND COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFERED TO HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS FOR RUNNING EVENTS. SO IT TIES EVERYTHING TOGETHER. THE GOAL OF THIS EVENT WAS TO ENGAGE YOUTH COMMUNITY WITHIN LOCAL CITY EVENTS AND TO GIVE OTHER VENDORS, LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EXPOSURE AND JUST ENGAGEMENT. HOWEVER, THERE WERE SOME CRITIQUES. SO IF WE HAD BETTER TIMELINE MANAGEMENT AND RESOURCE OR RESPONSIBILITY ALLOCATION, IT WOULD HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN EXECUTED. IT FAILED TO BE EXECUTED DUE TO LACK OF COMMUNICATION AND INCENTIVE. WHICH BRINGS US TO OUR NEXT POINT, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

1:32:54 – 1:33:14Speaker 22

One recommendation that we have was a stricter enforcement of the contract. One issue the committee discussed was attendance, accountability, and the importance of maintaining active participation. To address this, we recommend stricter enforcement of the attendance contract to ensure members remain committed, engaged, and able to contribute effectively to the committee's goals.

1:33:18 – 1:33:43Speaker 21

A key problem that seemed to impact the whole council was attendance and mandatory meetings. So having a smaller committee would incentivize members to understand the gravity of their roles and the responsibilities that come with it. So it would help them outline their responsibilities and really showcase that they're capable.

1:33:47 – 1:34:20Speaker 25

We also noticed that we were receiving a lot of information, which we realized is a privilege, but we didn't have as many opportunities to apply them. We had the economic development, like the economic departments, as well as the IT departments come and share what they do and how they serve the city, but we didn't really have much of an opportunity to really apply all that they've taught us. So, you know, even if that's like a mock assignment after the talk, I felt like there wasn't much offered to us for us to actually contribute to rather than, you know, just to receive all the information. Okay.

1:34:26 – 1:35:34Speaker 23

Going on to communications, we witnessed a problem within finding out how things work between a council, as it was a lot of our first times being on a council. We ran into problems with the Brown Act and communicating with one another, especially on smaller ad hocs. We realized that we would try to talk to one person, and then we couldn't talk to another. And it would be hard to reach out. And that's where a big problem went with communication. Alongside the ad hocs, a lot of people did struggle with signing up for ad hoc not knowing what they would need to do for it or how much participation they would really need, how much time they would need to put into ad hoc to help it get through. And also a lot of people just signed up for it without knowing what it was and then forgetting about it later. So I think a big lack of communication really was bad for the ad hocs because I think if we were able to communicate more on what certain things were like the Brown Act or really what an ad hoc does and what you need to have to be able to be in one and what kind of work you need to put into when you're in one was a really big issue within communication.

1:35:38 – 1:36:47Speaker 25

And the last recommendation we have has to do with the relevance of the issues that we were notified about or dealt with. I think it's a very gentle topic, but currently the political climate of our country is very unstable. And because of that, I think the closest people we can reach out to is our city council. And I guess that transcends down the hierarchy as well to the Hemet Youth Council. And I think... There was a lot more that we had to say, but we weren't really given a space to sort of communicate about that. So I think where I'm coming from with this is just we want more opportunities to really make a change, because that's ultimately what this is for. And it's amazing that you guys know we're capable of that. So just a little bit on that. And then lastly, these are some photos from all of our ventures over this year. As you can see, we have the Simpson and Weston Park rebranding. Simpson Park was actually one of the first times that we actually gathered together as a group and got to know each other. And I think that's from one of our first meetings at the bottom. We have our department tours, which were really fun. We learned a lot from them. And our concert planning.

1:36:51 – 1:37:07Speaker 21

And that concludes the whole meeting. We really appreciate this opportunity for the youth to be able to express their concerns and take action on it. It really allows us to recognize the power that we have amongst our peers and in our community. Thank you.

1:37:07 – 1:37:38Speaker 18

Thank you very much. Any comments from council? You guys did a great job coming up here tonight. So thank you so very much for that. And thank you for hanging in there. I know the size of the committee. We've talked a little bit about reducing that for the next year and getting more of what you guys want to hear and what you want to do. So thank you so much for the presentation. And any council member comments?

1:37:40 – 1:38:59Speaker 19

I can just tell you, Tom and I had a hard time, 44 applicants, and we wanted to take them all. So, after spending time with this wonderful group, they really did a very good job. I think it was unknown for Mark, And so Mark did the best he could. He did say something about the Christmas parade. And they're like, how come we weren't part of the Christmas parade? So guess what? We're going to make sure. But each one of these adults had a lot to say. And I'm going to leave it there because I look forward to the applications that Tom and I are going to review for the next I encouraged anybody within that to come back and try to get on again. Their knowledge is very important for the next set that comes in, one or two, and they can help pave the road. But look at them. It's just wonderful. And I have one in the back. We've got just all these adults, these young adults. They're going to be part of our group of community, and it's great.

1:39:07 – 1:39:32Speaker 7

because they did such an excellent job and we went into this blind, but, um, I hope, I hope they come back and they reapply and they help the next group because now that we're going to streamline it and we've got a better idea of what we're doing, we can help you a whole lot more. So I'm really looking forward to this next council.

1:39:34 – 1:40:24Speaker 16

so thank you all very much thank you tom jackie i i just want to say how enthused our former city manager mark prestwich was about this program he he brought it forward and several occasions when i was talking with him he would say oh i'm going to have the youth council give us input on this And he was just genuinely thrilled about this program and the response from the young adults. And it's a successful program, and a lot of cities are doing it now. And I think it's great that we brought it to Hammett. And thank you all for participating and giving us good information and feedback. It's good to hear from younger people and a different perspective. So we appreciate that. We honor that. So thank you very much.

1:40:27 – 1:40:47Speaker 11

I'm just amazed you spoke so well, articulate, and basically just gave us the information we need to hear. I'm really happy that you went through this process, and I think you're the future of our city, our nation, and I feel good about the future now. So thank you for everything you said. Thank you.

1:40:52 – 1:42:06Speaker 18

One last comment on that. I appreciate the fact that you were frustrated with the Brown Act, because we are too, and always have been. So thank you. OK. OK, we're going to jump around here. Okay, we'll try this again. It just doesn't like me. Okay, let's try it over here. Is this on? Okay, we're going to do public comment on non agenda items before we go into the public hearing because we have four or five public hearings and it may take a while. So do we have any Any registered speakers or comments not listed on the agenda but within the jurisdiction of this body?

1:42:06Speaker 15

Yes, we do, Mayor. Our first speaker this evening is Sonia Llamas, followed by Mary Ann DeRue.

1:42:30Speaker 18

Yes, make sure the green light is on and you have three minutes, which will come up on the screen.

1:42:44 – 1:44:30Speaker 10

Oh, there it is, okay. Good evening, councils, Madam Mayor. Some of you know me, some of you don't. My name is Sonia Llamas. I'm the Chief Executive Officer of the Llamas Housing Project. I just wanted to come this evening and say that on behalf of the Llamas Housing Project, we want to extend our appreciation, and this is more towards the Planning Commission. I just saw that the future Planning Commission does have on the future agenda the discussions for the Pro Housing Designation Program. So I am all over it, I'm super excited. This is supported through the California Home and of course the Housing Community Development. And I wanna thank the council and our leadership our economic team, not to mention the director, and the departments. I've had a lot of different complexities with different cases and so on and so on, but to see this on the agenda for future allowed me to come here this evening and just remind myself and our community that the challenges that we've had from like let's say 2018 to today in the housing measures and the yeas and the nays and all of the above. I think it's pretty amazing to see our city and the city leaders just kind of have that 360 turnaround in favor of, right, to continue to increase housing security for our families. So good job and I thought it was very important for me to come here this evening and congratulate you guys and congratulate our leadership and just to say thank you on behalf of the organization.

1:44:31Speaker 15

And that's all.

1:44:32 – 1:44:57Speaker 10

Oh, and congratulations to all the youth. I'm really impressed with that. I'm also a product of the city of Los Angeles as a Youth Service Academy student as well. And that's where our junior YSA comes in. But to see this happening in our backyard is pretty amazing to see. I can't wait for Alondra to jump on board. So thank you.

1:44:58Speaker 18

Thank you, Sonia. Marianne?

1:45:05 – 1:47:17Speaker 14

Good evening council. I'm here tonight to actually talk on behalf of the dogs in the city of Hemet. We do have a dog park and from my understanding is when it was first built, it was beautiful, it had grass and trees and it was really nice and then probably the cost made all the grass get taken out and all the trees get cut down. So I'm talking about the one at the end of Menlo and Costin over by the high school and the elementary school. And so I was just there today. It's all strictly just dirt. They only have one little area that they can sit in in the shade for the owners. And my request is, and it's been done before, sail shades. If we could put some sail shades up in there, they're very inexpensive, no maintenance on them. That would cover up a lot of that dirt. There's a couple areas. The dirt does get really hot in the summer for the dogs and their pads. Also too, there is no, or the people that I spoke with that utilize it on a regular basis, There's no trash bags in the cans where they're supposed to deposit for their dogs. So the guys have to come in when they do clean and they're not sure when because sometimes those cans aren't very big and they're full and then there is nowhere to put it. Also, too, they're not supplied with bags on a regular basis. So when I was there, obviously that is part of the owner to bring bags. However, their saying is always, oh, I didn't know he was going to go. Well, that was the whole point of bringing him here, right? So, but if we could supply bags so they are there, so they really don't have a reason not to, that would be awesome too. I know the city is on a money crunch right now. However, this is something that could be resolved and would be really nice for the community since it is surrounded by a very nice neighborhood. Thank you.

1:47:17Speaker 18

Thank you, Mary Ann. Any other speakers?

1:47:22Speaker 15

No other speakers.

1:47:22 – 1:47:44Speaker 18

All right. Thank you. Can you hear me out there when I'm from this? You can't hear me. OK. I'll slide closer. All right. OK. Now we will go to our public hearing. Yes? No? Christian, can you hear me? OK. All right. City Clerk, would you please read the instructions for the public hearing?

1:47:45 – 1:48:13Speaker 15

The City Council's procedures for public hearing will be as follows. Staff will provide a report and a clarification of items presented. The public hearing will be open for comments for those in favor of or in opposition to the item, followed by rebuttal to any comments made. The public hearing will be closed and the city manager may respond to any questions raised by the public. The public will not have an opportunity to respond. Discussion will then be brought back to the city council for direction or action.

1:48:13Speaker 18

Thank you very much. Can we get a report on item 14A?

1:48:18 – 1:53:51Speaker 12

Yes, good evening, honorable Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem, and council members. My name is Norma Rangel, human resources manager, and I'm here to give a brief presentation regarding AB2561, vacancy reporting. So the intent of the legislation is to address widespread job vacancies in local government. Staffing shortages negatively impact service delivery and increase burnout. The key provisions of the legislation that became effective was January 1st, 2025. The city is required to provide a report to council letting you know of our current vacancy rate. And the provisions are, this is governed by the MMBA, and PERB, the Public Employees Relations Board, administers and enforces these obligations. So what AB 2561 provides for is we are required to provide an annual hearing, and there's two types of hearings. One is a regular hearing, which is what we will be holding. There's a special hearing only for those agencies who have at least one bargaining unit with 20 or more percentage on their vacancy rate. We are not there, so we are going to be presenting the regular hearing. Also, employee organizations may present at either of these meetings. I did send out invitations to all of our organizations. One of our organizations did accept the invitation, so after my presentation, Captain Prieto from HFA will be coming to give a presentation to you. So this is the status of the vacancies for the City of Hemet, and this data says December 31st, 2025. As you can see, the city's overall vacancy rate is at 7%, which is great news. In the published agenda, there was a typo. It indicated 8%. That has been corrected, so they will be updated with a new presentation. The list here provides all the different bargaining units or groups and the current vacancy rate for each. So part of the legislation provides that we must indicate what recruitment efforts we are taking to make sure that we continue having an adequate vacancy rate. So as far as citywide, we are providing the job postings and professional organizations, and we are increasing our presence in social media for our postings. Specifically for the police department, they are continuing the recruitment efforts similar to what they provided in last year's presentation. So I will highlight some of these, which include continuing the recruitment and referral bonuses. And they are continuing to update their recruitment materials and be available to applicants. And they are also expediting their recruitment process. Some of the recruitment efforts provided by the fire department, they've created a lateral firefighter police position, also an EMT position, which has been very helpful in us getting more applicants for the, because it was very difficult for us to recruit for firefighters that also had the EMT. So the fire department is also continuing with the Community Risk Reduction Cadet Program, the Women's Girls Empowerment Camp, and the Fire Explorer Program. As far as retention efforts, citywide, the retention efforts the city has taken is we are continuing with employee engagement events. We have holiday parties, service awards dinners, Halloween parties, and also the city manager has presented several brown bag lunches and city manager updates. For the police department, on their retention efforts, they are continuing with fostering positive organizational culture, they are maintaining strong leadership accessibility, and they have also invested in modernization and technological improvements. Continuing with the police department, they are prioritizing professional development. They are strengthening their internal recognition and morale building efforts. The fire department's retention efforts include implementing a workforce hire reduction strategy. They have also introduced call volume reduction measures. and they are improving living conditions for the firefighters as well. Now, at this point, I'd like to introduce Captain Prieto. He will be giving a presentation on behalf of HFFA.

1:53:59 – 1:58:04Speaker 13

Thank you, Norma. My name is David Prieto, and I'm the president of the Hemet Firefighters Association, 23-year Hemet firefighter, and the last 13 as fire captain. So thank you, council, mayor, and city manager, for giving me the opportunity to come up here and share some information with you. I am very proud to represent the men and women of the Hemet Fire Department. Firefighters in Hemet are honored to serve the community and show up to work each and every day knowing that they are likely to experience risks to protect life, environment, and property. I'm very thankful for this discussion on vacancies today because I think its impact is important for everybody to understand. The vacancies on our fire department as demand for service continues to increase is heavy on our members on a personal level. As a bit of context, in 2025 we had nearly 20,000 calls for service across our five fire stations. Since 2018, we've experienced a 17.5% increase in annual call volume. For further context, our neighbors in Murrieta have a very similarly sized fire department to ours here in Hammett. Same number of stations, approximately the same staffing. However, we experience 63% more calls annually with a $2.5 million less budget. The result is our firefighters run 68% more calls per firefighter than Murrieta does. These simple data points really strengthen your position, our Hemet City Council, to stand firm on Hemet Fire's current daily staffing model of 20 personnel per day, which includes a battalion chief, each and every day. One of the unique things about the Hemet Fire Department is that when someone is out for the day, that position needs to be filled by somebody else. Our fire engines leave the stations with three firefighters many times a day, every day. So when there's a vacancy or someone needs off, that seat is often filled by someone on overtime. Inevitably, there are times where expenses on overtime are highlighted by some, but it is rare that the root cause of significant overtime like vacancies are brought to light in the same conversation. Calls today are more violent and more frequent than they were a decade ago. Whether responding to an EMS call or a structure fire in the city, or being called to a large incident in the region, we stand ready each and every day to serve the community. But these risks have a toll on the health and safety of our members. As noted in the presentation, we have currently 55 personnel and we're budgeted for 62. When our members are called to work, overtime means that a 48-hour shift has the potential to become a 72 or a 96-hour shift. Additionally, a fair amount of overtime shifts are mandatory and not voluntary, which is necessary to maintain staffing at all five fire stations to meet the demands set forth by the residents and visitors to Hemet. Long shifts at busy fire stations put a strain on our bodies and also puts strain on our families as we're not home to be with our spouses or take our kids to various activities. We deeply, and I want to really drive this point home, appreciate the work that the city and our fire department leaders have done to make sure we have the tools we need to be successful. The work the city is doing that is outlined on slide seven of the presentation is critical to our ongoing recruitment and retention efforts. And I really want to acknowledge Norma and her staff for doing such a great job, the detail in that presentation. So while we're making progress, we cannot hit the pause button on our efforts to minimize vacancies. Reducing vacancies and ensuring we have a strongly staffed fire department reduces the strain on our members and ensures the city has resources available should a disaster strike during an all hands on deck incident. At the end of the day, I believe we all want the same thing. We want the residents of Hemet to have the safest and best city possible. And I firmly believe that discussions like this that are facilitated by AB 2561 are important so we are all communicating and working together towards our shared goals. Thank you very much. I appreciate the chance to be up here and talk to you.

1:58:10Speaker 12

Okay, at this time, I would like to respectfully request that council open up the public hearing.

1:58:16Speaker 18

Thank you very much. I will now open the public hearing. City Clerk, are there any registered speakers, either for or against?

1:58:25Speaker 15

No registered speakers, ma'am.

1:58:26Speaker 18

All righty. I will now close the public hearing. Bring it back to council for discussion or deliberations. Does anyone have any comments?

1:58:39Speaker 18

OK, go ahead, Tom.

1:58:41Speaker 7

I said no, I don't.

1:58:45Speaker 11

I'd like to know how many of these 24 vacancies are currently frozen and not being actively recruited. Are they all frozen now?

1:59:02Speaker 12

I'll ask Tiffany Barnett, our Administrative Services Director, to answer that question.

1:59:11Speaker 17

Good evening. The only fire personnel at this point in time that is frozen is the recently vacated deputy fire chief. That's it. All other positions are open.

1:59:21Speaker 11

But it totals to 24 frozen, right? Or how many? No. No. How many total?

1:59:26Speaker 17

None. There's zero in fire, except for the one deputy fire chief.

1:59:30Speaker 11

Okay. And we're bringing on a new fire chief also?

1:59:34Speaker 17

Yeah, that's the hope.

1:59:36Speaker 11

That's the hope. Okay.

1:59:39Speaker 18

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

1:59:50 – 2:00:02Speaker 19

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO FILE THE REPORT STATUS OF CITY VACANCY AND RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION EFFORTS PURSUANT TO THE ASSEMBLY BILL 2561. AND A SECOND?

2:00:04Speaker 18

I'LL SECOND IT. OK. May we have a roll call, please?

2:00:10Speaker 15

Councilmember Clark?

2:00:13Speaker 15

Councilmember Lodge?

2:00:15Speaker 15

Councilmember Peterson? Yes. Mayor Pro Tem Mayles? Yes. Mayor Krupa?

2:00:21Speaker 18

Yes. Thank you for that. We will move on to our next public hearing, item 14B. Can we get a presentation from staff on this item, please?

2:00:41 – 2:06:11Speaker 9

Good evening, Mayor, members of the Council. My name is Travis Holyoke, and I am the Water and Wastewater Superintendent for the City of Hemet. Tonight, I'll be presenting the 2025 Urban Water Management Plan and Water Shortage Contingency Plan. Urban Water Management Plan, it's a long range water resource planning document to ensure adequate water supplies to meet existing and future water demands. Urban Water Suppliers is defined as a supplier either publicly or privately owned providing water to more than 3,000 customers or supplying more than 3,000 acre feet of water annually. Urban Water Suppliers is required to update its Urban Water Management Plan every five years. Components of the Urban Water Management Plan, water use and supply characterization, water service reliability and drought risk assessments, SB X7-7 baseline and targets, water shortage contingency plan, and demand management measures. Key findings of the Urban Water Management Plan. Water use and supply characterization. City primarily relies on groundwater from the San Jacinto Basin. Imported and or wheeled water is provided through Eastern Municipal Water District. Water resources are managed and reliable. EMWD and the Hemet San Jacinto Water Master. The city has flexibility to manage supply sources under drought conditions. Water service reliability and drought risk assessments. The city's water supplies are reliable in meeting demand during existing and projected normal single, dry, and five consecutive year drought periods through 2050. Annual assessments due beginning on July 1st, 2022. Review of the city's current water demands provides information regarding potential shortages, supply responses, actions, and communications. SBX 7-7, 2020 water use targets compliance. The city has continued to meet the water use targets compliance requirements. The table that you see there shows that our target was 139 gallons per day per capita, and we've stayed under that for the last five years. The water shortage contingency plan. Urban water suppliers are required to prepare and adopt a water shortage contingency plan included as chapter eight of those cities 2025 urban water management plan contains elements to be implemented during drought conditions and may include potential water supply augmentation measures, customer demand reduction measures. Division 3, Section 82 of the City's Municipal Code Water Conservation Plan, amended by Ordinance Number 1997 in April of 2022, outlines methods to reduce water use and prevent water waste on an ongoing basis. The City's plan for water usage during periods of shortage is designed to incorporate DWRs, which is Department of Water Resources, six standard water shortage levels corresponding to progressive ranges from up to a 10, 20, 30, 40, and 50% shortage and a greater than 50% shortage. The city will manage water supplies to minimize the adverse impacts of water shortages. The breakdown in the water shortage levels are as follow. Level one is a voluntary target of 10% reduction. If a level two is called mandatory targets of 20 and then so on all the way up to level six where mandatory levels target over 50% reduction. It incorporates existing demand management measures, existing emergency response plans, existing seismic risk assessments and mitigation plans. The conclusion, the city will be able to meet the water demands under drought conditions using existing water supplies coupled with customer demand reduction measures. Urban water management plan conclusions. Compliant with 2020 water use targets goal pursuant to SBX 7-7, water supplies are reliable in meeting demands during existing and projected normal single dry and five consecutive year drought periods through 2050. With its current demand management measures, the city anticipates having sufficient water supplies to meet population growth estimated by Southern California Association of Governments. I took this to the Planning Commission and we presented on May 19th, 2026. The Commission had one comment that they would like future consideration for the feasibility to bring recycled water to areas of the water system that are currently using potable water to irrigate. Urban Water Management Plan and Water Storage Contingency Plan notifications. The city sent out the required 60-day notifications to surrounding cities and agencies for the preparation of the urban water management plan and water shortage contingency plan. Public hearing notices were sent out to surrounding cities, agencies, along with the required newspaper posting for the urban water management plan and water shortage contingency plan. Here are the postings that we sent out. To the right is the letter that went out to all of the local governments and water agencies. And also with that, I would like to give a big thanks to Eric Bunke and Holly Buchanan at the yard for helping me get this 1900 page document done. And with that, I'll...

2:06:14Speaker 18

Thank you very much for the presentation. And with that, I will open the public hearing. Do we have any registered speakers on this item?

2:06:23Speaker 15

No registered speakers.

2:06:24 – 2:06:35Speaker 18

Is there anyone in the audience that wants to comment on this item? Seeing none, I will close the public hearing and bring it back to council for discussion and comments. Connie.

2:06:36 – 2:07:13Speaker 19

First of all, Travis, good job. That was awesome. And to see it done in-house, you did a great job. and all your cohorts that helped you, kudos. I cannot tell you how very happy I am to see that. I have just one question. The trichloropropane, that was the system we approved that was the many layers of filters

2:07:15 – 2:07:33Speaker 9

Yeah, so it's TCP123 is the abbreviation for it. And you got, Council approved it as part of CIP5717, which is the well 15 and 16 GAC, which is Granulated Activated Carbon Treatment System. That will treat those two wells to remove that.

2:07:36Speaker 19

AGAIN, THANK YOU, AND YOU SAVED US MONEY, AND AWESOME JOB.

2:07:45Speaker 18

OTHER QUESTIONS?

2:07:47Speaker 16

I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION. I HAVE ONE. GO AHEAD, TOM. OKAY, THANK YOU.

2:07:54 – 2:08:38Speaker 7

I READ IN THIS DAMN LONG REPORT, AND I REALLY READ MOST OF IT, BUT ON PAGE 54, TABLE 4-6 on the real water loss per unit per day is that in gallons um acre feet uh what is that page 54 yes it's 54 table quarter dash six progress towards the lost standard 2028 law standard There's items highlighting in green.

2:08:38Speaker 9

Yeah, that is gallons per day per capita.

2:08:41Speaker 7

Okay, that's what I thought. I just wanted to make sure on that one. All right, perfect. That's all I had besides fantastic report. Really commend your staff on that one.

2:08:54 – 2:09:29Speaker 16

You're going to get compliments from all of us, because when I was reading this too, I was like, this is a really detailed report. And I was talking to city manager Noah, and I said, did they spend a lot of time on this? And he goes, well, yeah, it took a lot of time to put together. There's a few standard things in there. It's over 1,900 pages long, and some of it is an explanation, but there's a lot of data that was collected for this, and I think you guys did a really good job on it, too. And it was easy to read. It was long, but it was easy to read, so thank you.

2:09:33 – 2:09:53Speaker 11

I just want to commend you also on the report. Bringing it in-house was great. I'm tired of spending money getting third party people in here, so that was great. My only question is, because I live in Seven Hills, what's happening with the well in Seven Hills and Mary Henley Park?

2:09:54 – 2:10:12Speaker 9

So that is exactly what council member, yeah, that's well 16 and then the well at Mary Henley is well 15. So the pipeline that you guys probably saw go in before engineering paved Kirby, that pipeline is gonna bring that water from that well over to the treatment plant.

2:10:12Speaker 11

Okay, when will that process be completed?

2:10:15Speaker 9

We are reviewing some documents on the well rehab for the contractor right now. And so once we make that decision, you guys will start seeing.

2:10:22Speaker 11

And once it goes up, does that mean we don't purchase as much water from EMWD at that point or?

2:10:28Speaker 9

When that goes in, we will not be getting our wheeled water from EMWD.

2:10:32Speaker 11

Okay, perfect, thank you.

2:10:34 – 2:11:09Speaker 18

Okay. Just a couple comments. I really like the title of your report, Flowing Forward. What could be better than water, right? Flowing Forward. But I do have a question. On the slide that talked about the reduction, percentage reduction of 10% and on all the way up to 50% consumption. This one? Yes. How do you track that? Is it overall consumption per well or per household?

2:11:10 – 2:11:52Speaker 9

So this is a, when you see these levels come in, and actually I got the next presentation coming up for water conservation after this. When these levels are called, this is actually called by the state water board, which the governor enacts. So I'll have to come back anyways when these levels come for level two, level three, and for council to adopt those changes. That is a reduction that we have to push onto the customers to reduce. And so there's in the water conservation plan, these are broken down into what those requirements will be. So a reduction of irrigation per days or, you know, so on and so forth. And obviously the higher you get, the more tighter the belt gets.

2:11:53Speaker 18

And this would be tracked per household.

2:11:55 – 2:12:10Speaker 9

Yeah, we have to be able to track it based on our consumption data. It's kind of hard. We don't have the capacity to be water police. But it's pushed onto the customer, and we can implement, like, you can't water at this time. You can't do this. You can't do that.

2:12:10Speaker 18

OK. Thank you very much. And yes, good presentation. So bringing this back to council, if no further questions or comments, can I have a motion to approve this item?

2:12:21 – 2:12:41Speaker 16

I will make a motion to approve the resolution. Adopting the 2025 Urban Water Management Plan and the Water Shortage Continuity Plan pursuant to California Water Code Sections 10610 through 10656 and Section 10608. Is there a second?

2:12:44Speaker 18

There's a second. Could we please have a roll call?

2:12:47Speaker 15

Councilmember Clark? Yes. Councilmember Lodge? Yes. Councilmember Peterson? Yes. Mayor Pro Tem Mayles? Yes. Mayor Krupa?

2:12:56 – 2:13:17Speaker 18

Yes. All right, moving on to item 14 C. We'll have our next presentation. Waiting for the presentation to come up.

2:13:21 – 2:16:22Speaker 9

Again, my name's Travis Loeb, Water Waste, Wastewater Superintendent for the City of Hemet, Mayor, Honorable Counsel. I'm here to present the amendment of Chapter 82, Article 3, Division 3 of the Hemet Municipal Code for the Water Conservation Plan. A little bit of background. The City of Hemet owns and operates a water production and distribution system that provides potable drinking water to customers throughout its service area. The City of Hemet has over 9,000 water customer accounts and serves a population over 30,000. The city established its first water conservation plan ordinance in 1991 and amended the ordinance in 2015 under urgency ordinance number 1894. The city revised the water conservation ordinance in 2022 with resolution 1997, which was revised to bring the ordinance up to date and comply with AB 1668 Friedman and SB 606 Hertzberg. The revision also set the six water shortage contingency plan stages. Conservation. California has long been at the forefront of water conservation, become the first state to adopt urban water use efficiency targets of the Water Conservation Act of 2009, SBX 7-7 Steinberg. This act mandated state achieve a 20% reduction in urban per capita water use by 2020. In 2023, the California Legislature passed Assembly Bill 1572, Friedman, which prohibits using potable water to irrigate non-functional turf located on commercial, industrial, and institutional CII properties, including homeowner association takeaways. The bill requires public water systems to revise regulation ordinances or policies by January 1st, 2027, and communicate those changes to its customers. Non-functional turf means turf that is non-functional turf, including decorative grass areas that serve no recreational or functional purpose. Non-functional turf includes but is not limited to turf located within street right-of-ways, road medians, parking lots, and areas outside of businesses or other establishments that are not used for recreation or assembly. Functional grass areas such as sports fields, picnic areas, cemeteries, and areas irrigated with non-potable water are exempt from the ban. Residential lawns are also exempt from the regulation. These are some areas that you'll see that are considered non-functional turf. Pictures are better than just language sometimes. There's another area that's also going to be considered non-functional turf. Conservation timelines. The state's compliance timeline for AB 1572 is as follows. January 1st, 2027, state and local government properties. By January 1st, 2028, commercial, industrial, and institutional properties. January 1st, 2029, homeowners association, common areas, mobile home parks, and retirement communities. January 1st, 2031, government properties located within disadvantaged communities.

2:16:24 – 2:16:55Speaker 18

notifications we sent out public hearing for this on may 24th and with that i'll take any questions all right thank you very much at this time i will open the public hearing do we have any registered speakers nobody wants to talk about this one either you want to talk about this if you can go to the microphone and Okay, we'll ask you to state your name.

2:16:58Speaker 2

My name is Aaron Nash.

2:17:03 – 2:17:18Speaker 2

One of the questions I have is if this non-functional turf is no longer watered and eventually it dies and dries up, do we have a plan to replace it with anything that would make our city look beautiful and contribute to our already beautiful and prosperous city?

2:17:20Speaker 18

Very good question. Travis, can you answer that?

2:17:24 – 2:18:02Speaker 9

So, good question. So with that, we offer rebates for turf removals. And so on our city's website, there's a link that will take you to those rebates for turf removals. It'll then take you, because we partnered with EMWD, which is also a partner with MWD, you apply through their portal. There's a list of what you can do for those turf replacements. You do your turf removal replacement, and you submit, I think it's $4 a square foot today. Certain areas, commercial and residential are different, and then you'll get reimbursed for that rebate.

2:18:04Speaker 2

Thank you so much for answering my question. That is all. I appreciate it.

2:18:07 – 2:18:19Speaker 18

Thank you for asking it. Anyone else? That was a very good question. Okay. No more. I will close the public hearing and bring this back to council for comments and questions.

2:18:22 – 2:18:44Speaker 11

No? I'm good. Jackie? Joe? Quick question. Actually, two questions. How many city-owned locations will be affected beginning January 2027? And will there be any grants given out by the state or any type of government grants to help offset this cost for cities?

2:18:44 – 2:19:13Speaker 9

So I don't not have that exact number of city properties that we have that are considered that fall under this non-functional turf. If there's areas, there's a few exemptions. If there's areas where there's grass there, but it's also being used to irrigate the trees and stuff, that's also considered it could be exempt. As far as government properties, as far as our LLMD lighting landscape districts and stuff like that, I don't have the exact number, but I'm sure we can get that for you.

2:19:14Speaker 11

And who enforces this?

2:19:20 – 2:19:34Speaker 9

The state's putting it on the water agencies. And so if it has its own meter and you're irrigating it, they basically, and it's a dedicated irrigation meter, they're giving the water agencies the authority to just shut the water off.

2:19:37Speaker 18

Okay, thank you. Tom?

2:19:40Speaker 9

No, I'm good.

2:19:42 – 2:19:59Speaker 18

I do have a question, and it kind of goes along with the question the young man asked and also what Joe commented on the non-functional city areas. What do we plan to do after we take out the grass?

2:20:02 – 2:20:39Speaker 9

I believe, I mean, engineering, and Noah might be able to help me with this one, but I believe we are working on applying for these rebates because since, like I said, we're partnered with EMWD and MWD, they're offering a higher rate for these landscape areas. for government properties. So I believe they are looking to remove the turf and put in the drought tolerant landscape that is acceptable per their plan. That's the area across from City Hall that we did for Hemet Beautiful. I believe that was one of those that they applied for.

2:20:40 – 2:20:56Speaker 18

It in the something to consider, especially in the streets right of ways where you've got a narrower thing is to maybe look at drought tolerant ground cover that is green. I mean, brown is not pretty in my estimation.

2:21:03Speaker 9

I do know one of the things that they do not allow in the rebates for the turf removal is the artificial grass. That is not one.

2:21:12 – 2:21:34Speaker 18

And that's okay because that doesn't look, that looks like artificial grass. But some of the ground cover is really very attractive and uses, definitely uses less water. And I think it adds to the scenic grandeur of our streets. Any other comments or questions?

2:21:35 – 2:21:56Speaker 7

Yes, I'm sorry, but some of the stuff that they put in like on medium for palm, and I agree with you, is colorful and it's drought resistant, but some of the brown plants just look brown. And so I understand going with the more colorful plants that are drought resistant.

2:21:58Speaker 18

Thank you, Tom. OKAY. SEEING AND HEARING NO MORE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, BRING THIS BACK FOR A MOTION.

2:22:09Speaker 19

I'LL DO A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION. DO I HAVE TO READ THE WHOLE THING?

2:22:20Speaker 15

I'll go ahead and read that into the record once we- Oh, thank you.

2:22:23Speaker 19

And authorize the city manager to approve the annual water supply and demand assessment each year. Good job.

2:22:33Speaker 18

Okay, we have a motion and a second. We have a roll call.

2:22:36 – 2:23:01Speaker 15

Before the roll call, read the title into the record. Ordinance number 2077, an ordinance of the City Council of the City of Hemet, California, amending Division 3 Water Conservation Plan of Chapter 82, Article 3 of the City's Municipal Code to implement state requirements for non-functional turf irrigation. Councilmember Clark? Yes. Councilmember Lodge? Yes. Councilmember Peterson? Yes. Mayor Pro Tem Mayles? Yes. Mayor Krupa?

2:23:01 – 2:23:19Speaker 18

Yes. All right, that passes unanimously. And we'll move on to 14 D, adoption of an updated user and regulatory fees. This has been brought back from the last council meeting, because we had several questions.

2:23:20 – 2:23:41Speaker 17

Good evening, Council. Tiffany Barnett, Administrative Services Director. And tonight we are continuing a couple of public hearings. The first one is going to be our comprehensive user fee study. First, I would like to bring up our fire department, Fire Chief Phillips. He is going to explain the breakdown of the fire prevention fees to you.

2:23:44 – 2:27:46Speaker 31

Cameron Phillips interim fire chief and I'm here to bring forth a few slides to clarify some of the fee structure relative to fire prevention and permitting that we discussed in our last council meeting weeks ago. The general purpose of this fee structure change was to be user friendly for our target audience, which is the public and city staff. We eliminated duplication and confusion within the charting. We made it small business friendly, and I'll explain that in a minute. And we wanted to make it accurate to the staff effort versus the jobs that they were presented. And I'll talk about that in a minute. What I mean by that is the staff going out to do certain aspects of certain permitting and certain inspections didn't match the work that was done. So we were literally undercharging what should have been charged equal to staff time. What we have here is just some example costs that we talked about last meeting, some questions on our annual business inspections, which is our probably the lion's share of the work that we do in building inspection, fire inspections. And the current and new cost structures on that, that $210, was direction to not include an administrative fee on that, so it's strictly the 210 without the 105. We have state-mandated apartments. It isn't just apartments, it's motels and hotels as well. The current fee is 329 and the new fee is 315. And our fire prevention hourly rate is going from 199 to 210. As a side note, we have about 2,000 occupancies altogether in the city that require inspection, to give you kind of some context on the kind of job that we have out there. Our next slide is fees changes to state mandated. These are apartments, hotels, motels. The prior system was based on the number of buildings. However, a building can contain four units or 14 units or 20 units. So, what we did is we broke it down to strictly unit number and that what that did is it brought a lower cost factor to the owners. And then when we get to the higher units, the 200 plus units at the bottom of that chart, it was a more accurate reflection of the time that our inspectors spent out in these very large complexes. Sometimes an hour or two hours or three hours out there wandering around looking at all the different buildings. Again, these are state-mandated buildings. Our next chart is commercial buildings, fire sprinkler inspection fees. And this is another one where we were able to break it apart a little bit and say it was so clumped together in large numbers, we broke it down into smaller numbers to make it more fair for, think pizza, pizza restaurant, pizza store, and he wanted to move one wall 10 feet, and he had to put up three more sprinkler heads. Well, under the old fee, they were charged $593 for 100 sprinkler heads if they only moved three. So, what we did is we broke it down into smaller numbers. So, as an example, somebody that has to put up three new heads on the top line of this chart, it's one to 20 heads, approximately two hours. The new fee is $420. The prior fee was $593. So, for the small business, they're getting a little bit of a break on that. And then, on the flip side, greater than 101 sprinklers, you see the hours and the costs, and what we were charging prior to that. So it's a more accurate reflection of the kind of work that's going on out there.

2:27:46Speaker 19

Yeah, I just think it's a good idea

2:27:51 – 2:29:46Speaker 31

The next slide depicts something, think large warehouse. And these are very complex, very large, take a lot of time. This pricing that you see is actually a combination of plan check THAT IS DONE FIRST AND INSPECTIONS AFTER. AND THOSE ARE $1260 EACH. BUT ON THIS CHART I'VE COMBINED THEM. SO ANYTHING BETWEEN 500,000 AND A MILLION SQUARE FOOTAGE OF A BUILDING. THE NEW FEE IS 2520, AND THE CURRENT FEE IS $460. SO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A DRASTIC DIFFERENCE IN THE AMOUNT OF LABOR INVOLVED TO WANDER THROUGH A GIANT, LARGE BUILDING LIKE THAT VERSUS WHAT WE'RE CHARGING NOW IS WAY OFF BASE. THE LAST SLIDE TALKS ABOUT SPECIAL EVENTS, AND OUR SPECIAL EVENTS The charge to the vendor is $480. It's $210 an hour. It's a four-hour minimum. And the reason it's a four-hour minimum is that's part of the MOU. That's part of our staff negotiated MOUs. They get a four-hour minimum. They might only spend an hour or two out there looking at a special event prior to its start to make sure everything is fire safe. But that's what we're charging right now. This particular area is something we might want to look at down the road. TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. BUT AGAIN, WE CAN'T OPEN UP CONTRACTS AND CHANGE ALL THAT STUFF RIGHT NOW. SO IT'S SET AT 480. AND THAT CONCLUDES THE QUESTIONS. I THINK MOST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD MY LAST VISIT UP HERE. UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, NO, WE WEREN'T HAPPY TO ANSWER.

2:29:47 – 2:29:58Speaker 18

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF? No. Thank you for that explanation. Appreciate that. You're welcome.

2:29:58Speaker 19

I really like the fact that it's divided out. It's very concise. Way better. Okay.

2:30:06 – 2:30:19Speaker 17

Next, I'd like to invite Dave Schroeder from ClearSource. He is going to kind of do a recapture, refresh of what we had discussed. And then after that, if you have any questions, he is available and then we can open the public hearing.

2:30:24 – 2:33:11Speaker 4

Good evening, Mayor and members of the City Council. Good to see you again. So tonight I'm going to just go through a very brief presentation and this is just going to recap where we left off at the prior meeting and then discuss some of the adjustments that were made to a few of the fees since that meeting resulted in some reductions to certain fees. So on May 26, City Council received a presentation reviewing the outcomes and recommendations from the recently completed user and regulatory fee study. Following that presentation, Council opened a public hearing to receive public comment, to ask questions, and provide its feedback to staff. And shortly after that, Council continued the public hearing to tonight. So since that initial meeting on the 26th, staff had an opportunity to go back and consider some of the feedback provided by council. They reviewed each of the fees and underlying data that supported the cost of service and proposal of those fees. And they made a few adjustments in certain sections. One of those sections was with business licenses. Tiffany and her staff decided to review that, and they wanted to break apart the overall total cost of the business license and separate it from the $4 state fee or SB 1186 state fees. So now it's just a presentation matter. No net changes were made to those fees. It's simply just for clarification purposes. So now you'll see in that section two columns, one for the business license fee and then the $4 SB 1186 state fees. The other area where staff reviewed the fees and underlying data, including service times, was in engineering. And following that review, they decided to adjust a total of 47 of the fees. If you recall, that section has, I think, about 220 fees or so. In reviewing that full schedule of engineering fees, they decided to make adjustments to 47 of them. One of those adjustments was an upward increase to a deposit, and that was for geotechnical report review. And then for 46 other categories, they reviewed the service times involved with those and decided to make some adjustments down where they felt they were a bit high. So that resulted in a reduction of the initial proposed fees that were provided to council for those engineering fees. And then for all other fees represented in the report, all other ones remained the same. So tonight staff is recommending that city council continue the public hearing and at the conclusion of the public hearing to adopt the resolution updating the fees and charges and also authorizing annual inflationary adjustments to the fees. Thank you, that concludes my presentation. I'm available to receive any feedback or questions you might have.

2:33:12 – 2:33:25Speaker 18

Thank you very much for the presentation. We are continuing the public hearing. So is there anyone in the audience or any, speaker cards requests on this.

2:33:26Speaker 15

No speaker cards.

2:33:26 – 2:33:41Speaker 18

No speaker cards. Anybody in the audience have any questions or comments on this? Seeing none, I will close the public hearing and bring it back to council for comments and deliberation. Go ahead, Joe.

2:33:41Speaker 11

Okay. Of the projected $380,000 in fees, how much of that is residence and how much is commercial?

2:33:50 – 2:34:01Speaker 4

That's a difficult question to answer. I was ready for your question from the last meeting. I think that would be something we would have to prepare an analysis on just to see.

2:34:01Speaker 11

So you didn't break it down to see which one?

2:34:02 – 2:34:20Speaker 4

We don't necessarily break it down at that level. We do break it down by department. So for instance, in building we're projecting an increase in revenue of about $28,000 there. The department I think where we see the most potential movement is going to be engineering, and that's about $240,000 in additional revenue.

2:34:21Speaker 11

Enlighten me on the question I asked last time.

2:34:24 – 2:34:44Speaker 4

That was the question. You were asking, hey, where is that money coming from, that $380,000 or so? Oh, I got you. OK. If I had to ballpark it, the majority of these inspections and permit fees, the larger fees, those come mostly from commercial or from large projects, large developments.

2:34:44Speaker 11

Yeah, that's what I would hope for.

2:34:47 – 2:35:03Speaker 4

The overwhelming majority would come from that. The other ones are very minor permits, and typically they're not very high volume. It's going to be just individual minor inspections. Let's say somebody's replacing a fence or a portion of a fence or something like that, so those are on the lower end.

2:35:03Speaker 11

And how do these fees compare to our surrounding cities? Are they higher, lower, about the same?

2:35:10 – 2:36:04Speaker 4

Generally, the city has positioned itself to be in the middle range. So we did a fee study about five years ago, and we analyzed the fees there. The city at the time was at the very low end of the range, and that's comparing to your regional neighbors and that sort of thing. For this particular study, because the city has been very proactive in managing these fees, and they've done a great job year after year of reviewing individual fees, some minor changes here and there, and also applying inflationary adjustments over the year. The city's done a great job of that. So there wasn't very much movement materially to the fees this time around. We do consider the hourly rates for the departments, and basically that in service times is what makes up or informs the fees that you're charging and the cost of service. With those hourly rates, you are in the acceptable range as compared to your neighbors.

2:36:06Speaker 11

Okay. Thank you.

2:36:07Speaker 18

All right. Any other questions or comments? Tom?

2:36:12Speaker 7

No, I'm good. Thank you.

2:36:14 – 2:36:36Speaker 18

All righty. I just want to thank staff and you for answering all of the questions that came forward and also cleaning up some of the stuff and the explanations are definitely very good. We appreciate that. So did I close the public hearing? I did close the public hearing. Okay. Looking for a recommendation from council.

2:36:38 – 2:36:55Speaker 16

I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION ADOPTING A SCHEDULE OF USER AND REGULATORY FEES FOR VARIOUS CITY SERVICES, RESCINDING INCONSISTENT FEES, AND FINDING THAT THE FEES DO NOT EXCEED THE REASONABLE COST OF PROVIDING THE SERVICES FOR WHICH THE FEES ARE CHARGED.

2:36:55Speaker 18

DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

2:36:57Speaker 7

I SECOND THAT.

2:36:59Speaker 18

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL. COUNCIL MEMBER CLARK? YES.

2:37:03Speaker 15

COUNCIL MEMBER LODGE?

2:37:06Speaker 15

Councilmember Peterson? Yes. Mayor Pro Tem Mayles? Yes.

2:37:09 – 2:37:21Speaker 18

Mayor Krupa? Yes. That passes unanimously. Moving on to item 14E, adoption of development impact fee, nexus study and update fee schedule. Tiffany, you're back on.

2:37:21 – 2:37:41Speaker 17

Good evening. Next, we will have the continuation of the public hearing for the Development Impact Fee and the Nexus Study. And I would like to bring up Greg Brown from Revenue Cost Specialist. And he is going to do a brief recap of what we had gone over, and then we'll open the public hearing again. Or I guess we're continuing it, so.

2:37:56 – 2:40:20Speaker 27

Good evening, Mayor, members of the council. So we're going to do a brief recap of where we were two weeks ago. Actually kind of similar to what we just did in the last one. So we'll try and catch everyone up to speed and then I'll be available for questions. So the main points we had from two weeks ago was pretty much that the fees have been around, they haven't been in touch for about 20 years now. So if we're doing the comparison between the California Construction Cost Index and the fees themselves, it's 120% increase for the California Construction Cost Index, whereas the fees themselves for the proposed fees are only about 20%. We have a different legal landscape than we did back then. We have AB 602 that came in that's mandating the fees per square foot versus before that it was per drawing unit. And also, too, the fees now have to be adopted with an excess study, and then they have to be updated every eight years as well, too. There's four new fee programs we're adding this time. It's gonna be water, wastewater, open space, and community centers. Here we have the per square foot, the maximum justified fees. And again, please keep in mind that these are only the maximum justified fees. So these are the ceiling. It is council's discretion. They can move anywhere down from that fee. We have here the proposed fees, and we break them down into per-dwelling unit. So I have an apples-to-apples comparison. And you can see here, we have the 2006 fees. Obviously, most of the fees have gone up for that, but we have a few of them that have also gone down, too. We have bridges, streets, and traffic, which have gone down, and general government. And both of these were kind of a result of the change in legal landscape. We have the total development fee burden here. Now, on the top part, we have the DIF infrastructure, excuse me, the DIF fees themselves. And then in the middle here, we have the regional and the other fees, things like the multiple species habitat conservation, the developer fees, which is set up by the school district, and the dump fees as well. So at the bottom, then, is gonna be the grand total that the developer would actually pay for single family, multi-family, and so forth. And then taking a look here, we're taking a look at the comparison between the neighboring cities here. So we have Bowman at the very top. We have Marietta and then Hemet right here in about the middle with Moreno Valley below that and then Menifee below that. And so that's the recap that I have for this. And I'm here for any questions.

2:40:23Speaker 18

Any questions?

2:40:36 – 2:40:49Speaker 18

Okay. Is that the end of the presentation? Yes, ma'am. The whole thing? Okay. The public comment period is still open. Do we have any registered speakers on the public comment?

2:40:49Speaker 15

No registered speakers, ma'am.

2:40:50 – 2:41:01Speaker 18

Is there anyone in the audience that would like to make a comment on this item? Seeing none, I will close the public hearing and bring it back to counsel for questions and discussion. Counsel? Counsel?

2:41:04 – 2:41:27Speaker 11

I'm just I'm just amazed by all the fees that we were adding. It makes it impossible for people to buy homes. I mean the Tom fee, the MSHCP fee, the school development fee, the water and wastewater diff fee. I mean it comes out to 51,000 in excess fees that people have to pay in order to purchase a house so.

2:41:32 – 2:41:51Speaker 18

Yes, and our fees are a small part of that. So, if no further questions or comments, I'll entertain a motion. And I do want to thank staff again for the extra work that you're putting in answering questions. Appreciate that.

2:41:53 – 2:42:08Speaker 19

I would like to adopt the resolution for the council adopting the 2026 development impact fee nexus study and updating the development impact fee schedule.

2:42:08Speaker 18

Okay. Do we have a second? I'll second it. We have a motion and a second. Please do a roll call.

2:42:15Speaker 15

COUNCILMEMBER CLARK? YES. COUNCILMEMBER LODGE?

2:42:19Speaker 15

COUNCILMEMBER PETERSON? YES. MAYOR PRO TEMMALES? NO. MAYOR CRUPA?

2:42:23 – 2:42:36Speaker 18

YES. THAT PASSES 4-1. WE'LL GO ON TO NUMBER 16, RECEIVE AND FILE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE HAMMUT WARRANT REGISTERS RECEIVE AND FILE?

2:42:44Speaker 19

There's my little gig.

2:42:47 – 2:43:25Speaker 19

Okay. New vendors, Pops Country Cafe, local, and they did a phenomenal job catering for us. um cali style auto body ice auto repair and also to encourage any local vendors to contact the city if there's a service that we can use and you provide it let's do it it's called staying local and shop local

2:43:26 – 2:43:46Speaker 18

Okay. Very good. Any other questions or comments? Hearing none, we will receive and file this item. Moving on to the consent calendar. All consent calendar items will be acted upon simultaneously unless requested by an individual council member for separate consideration. Are there any items that any council member would like to pull?

2:43:49Speaker 7

I would like to pull 17B and 17E.

2:43:54Speaker 18

WAS THAT B AS IN BRAVO?

2:43:57Speaker 7

B. E AS IN BRAVO AND E AS IN ECHO.

2:44:03Speaker 18

OKAY. I'M LEARNING THE TERMINOLOGY.

2:44:10 – 2:44:24Speaker 18

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER ITEMS TO BE PULLED? OKAY. JOE? ANYTHING PULLED? OKAY. THEN I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS A, C, D, F,

2:44:29Speaker 16

I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REMAINING ITEMS.

2:44:32Speaker 18

I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REMAINING ITEMS. I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REMAINING ITEMS. WE HAVE A SECOND. WE HAVE A SECOND. WE HAVE A SECOND.

2:44:39Speaker 15

SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND.

2:44:42Speaker 15

SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND.

2:44:48Speaker 18

SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND.

2:44:56Speaker 7

SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. SEC

2:44:59Speaker 18

OKAY, DO WE HAVE THE CHIEF OR CAPTAIN? WE HAVE SOMEONE COMING TO THE MICROPHONE.

2:45:09Speaker 18

GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL.

2:45:14Speaker 6

DALE DEGENERATIS WITH THE MET POLICE DEPARTMENT.

2:45:17Speaker 18

OKAY. TOM, WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION?

2:45:20Speaker 7

MY QUESTION IS, ONE, WHAT IS TRUNKING? IT SAID SOMEWHERE IN THAT REPORT ABOUT TRUNKING.

2:45:29 – 2:45:46Speaker 6

So trunking, it's a technology where radios can use a limited amount of frequency more efficiently. So it lets multiple radios have different conversations at the same time effectively.

2:45:47 – 2:46:01Speaker 7

Okay. And my other thing was the last item on the accessories, and I talked to Noah about it, is the 28 batteries. I'M ASSUMING THOSE ARE JUST EXTRA BATTERIES THAT WE'LL HAVE ON HAND?

2:46:04Speaker 7

OKAY. I THOUGHT I WAS RIGHT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

2:46:09Speaker 18

OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT ITEM, TOM?

2:46:13 – 2:46:27Speaker 7

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM TO PURCHASE THE HARRIS RADIOS, XL300 PUTTABLE RADIOS. for our police departments.

2:46:27Speaker 18

All right. Do I have a second? I'll second. We have a motion and a second. Please do a roll call. Council Member Clark?

2:46:33Speaker 15

Yes. Council Member Lodge? Yes. Council Member Peterson? Yes. Mayor Pro Tem Mayles? Yes.

2:46:38Speaker 18

Mayor Acrupa? Yes. All right. Moving on to 17E. 17E.

2:46:46 – 2:47:09Speaker 7

My question was how long on this increase IS IT FOR THE LENGTH OF THE CONTRACT OR IS IT JUST TILL OUR FINANCIAL YEAR END THIS JULY? I WAS JUST WONDERING IF SOMEBODY COULD ANSWER THAT.

2:47:10Speaker 18

YES, NORMA WILL ANSWER THAT. OR NOLA WILL. I BELIEVE NOLA WILL.

2:47:16Speaker 30

THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT, SO IT WILL BE FOR THE LENGTH OF THE CONTRACT, NOT JUST THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

2:47:23Speaker 7

Okay. And how long is that? Do we have left on that contract?

2:47:28Speaker 30

I believe we'll be entering year three. So then there is an option to extend if we needed to for an additional one year, two times.

2:47:38Speaker 7

One year, two times. All right. Perfect. That's all I needed to know.

2:47:41Speaker 18

Okay. Would you make a motion?

2:47:45 – 2:48:05Speaker 7

I would love to make a motion that we approve the... I can't even find it now. Resolution 2026-083 for the approval for the second amendment for administrative investigation services and personnel.

2:48:06Speaker 18

All right. Do we have a second?

2:48:08Speaker 18

We have a motion and a second. We have a roll call.

2:48:11Speaker 15

Councilmember Clark? Yes. Councilmember Lodge?

2:48:15Speaker 15

Councilmember Peterson? Yes. Mayor Pro Tem Mayles? Yes. Mayor Krupa?

2:48:19 – 2:48:33Speaker 18

Yes. All right. Thank you, everyone. Moving on to discussion item and action item. Can we have a report from staff on discussion item 18A, which is the third fiscal year 26-27 budget workshop? Tiffany, you're back on.

2:48:34 – 2:48:56Speaker 17

GOOD EVENING. I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO LET OUR ACCOUNTING MANAGER, KALINA BEASLEY, TAKE THIS ONE. AND WE ARE ACTUALLY VERY FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE OUR BROKER FROM ALLIANT, ROBERT LOWE, WHO IS GOING TO FOLLOW UP AT THE END AFTER THE STAFF'S PRESENTATION. AND HE HAS A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION TO GIVE US FOR DIRECTION ON LIABILITY. SO I'LL LET KALINA TAKE THE LEAD NOW.

2:48:56Speaker 18

VERY GOOD. VERY GOOD. WELCOME, KALEEN.

2:49:05 – 3:03:26Speaker 5

Good evening, Mayor, Council. Tonight we have a presentation for budget workshop number three. The purpose of this budget workshop is to provide an update on our projections, to also present some liability insurance options and receive some policy direction from Council. Upcoming meetings include a Measure U Oversight Committee meeting this Thursday, June 11th. Also, our final council budget adoption on June 23rd. The fiscal year budget development principles have remained the same. We have kept a conservative outlook for property tax and sales tax, and we are adjusting workforce and service levels to meet our budget situation. A quick recap of our last budget workshop held on May 12th. Originally, we had a forecasted operating budget deficit of $13 million. We implemented some cost containment measures, such as freezing vacant positions, utilizing measure fund balance to buy down the public safety SIR. reducing maintenance and operations citywide, suspending the vehicle replacement program, and some adjustments to the medical premium rates and some of our transfers. So with that, from the last budget workshop, we had an operating deficit of around $7.5 million. We have made some adjustments, mostly on the expenditure side. So nothing has changed so far with the revenues. The only adjustment is in the little yellow highlight, and that is for our transfers for our general administration. In basically all governments, you have a cost allocation of your general government, which includes city manager's office, finance, HR, city clerk. Those departments that are in general fund that service the whole city, you do a cost allocation to the different departments and funds. And so this amount right here, the $6.2 million, is just the allocation to departments and other funds that come into the general fund. And the reason it decreased is because expenditures in our departments decreased from some of the items I'll talk about soon. And so therefore, the corresponding revenue changed. So that's really, those are just transfers. It really just goes up and down with expenditures. So no real change in revenues from our last budget workshop. On the expenditure side, we did have decrease in expenditures. We were very fortunate. We did receive feedback from the Safer Grant that it is being extended through February 28, 2027. So it's very exciting. We have eight months additional that is covered through grant funds, which alleviates our general fund. So really, the biggest difference you'll see In terms of department expenditures, is that fire department, the 26-27 draft expenditures reduced significantly for the SAFR grant. Across the board, we did decrease a bit due to some good news we've had on the liability front, which we'll get into in a few slides. So there were just some modest decreases from those savings. The non-departmental has largely stayed the same from last time. This is just a detailed list of our kind of citywide expenses that don't really belong to a specific department. We have expanded our one-time use of fund balance. Finance had met with our interim city manager, Noah, to review through department requests to use one-time money. And we are ready to move forward on some of those items. So this list has grown a bit since we are able to work with the new city manager and departments on the needs for next year. So some of the increases, you'll see Police Measure U Fund would like to purchase some vehicles, radios, cameras for about a million dollars. We're also proposing to use Measure U Fund balance for some salaries and payouts of about one and a half million dollars for police personnel. We've had some additions for fire from their Measure U, $170,000 for some cameras, station enhancements, hose replacements. We have $160,000 for a portable radio replacement for fire department. That is general fund, but it's the fund that they have from the AMR penalty fees. So it is restricted fund balance that is specifically for this purpose that they're tapping into. Some other items here that we're proposing to use fund balance for is demolition and storage transfer from the city building on Juanita which is across from City Hall and And then there is a proposal to, in the building department, we currently have a large contract with, I believe it's Wilvan for services, inspector services and permit technician services. We're proposing to bring that in house and convert that 500,000 plus contract to three city positions. So we would need to use one-time fund money for the building department just to buy a vehicle and some equipment for a building inspector that we'd like to add. And then one final item for FIRE down at the bottom there is a new program that they would like to implement called Pre-Hospital Blood Infusion Program. Again, that also would be funded through AMR for the startup, and then future costs would be minimal going forward out of the general fund. So we have expanded this list of one-time money to about $5.5 million. So with that, we were able to reduce our operating deficit from about $7.5 million to $4.5 million, which is very exciting. So we'll get into the list here of what helped make up that $3 million. So the biggest thing, which was really exciting, was a safer grant extension. So that was worth about $1.3 million. That will alleviate the general fund for eight months. The personnel move of some police positions to using Measure U fund balance of about $1 million. The liability premium increase, the broker from Alliant had originally estimated about a 12.5% to 15% increase on our premium for next year. And they worked very hard and gone out there and think, Thanks to our police department and all the measures they have put into place, our premium increase is going to come in more about 4.5%. So that was a great savings. So we did implement that into the budget. He is going to explain some other options of how we can reduce that further if we would like. But for right now in the budget, The decrease that we put in for tonight was just that reduction of the premium that increased from 12 and a half down to four and a half, so that was savings across the board. And those liability costs get spread across departments, so it was a savings across all departments. Also, we realized when we were going back through all the liability costs that the city attorney did let us know a little while ago that he could bring down his estimate on how much litigation budget he might need for next year. And so we did put that reduction in the budget. So that's going to save about $300,000. And then we did have a staff member in Public Works resign. So we are freezing that position as well. So that yields another $130,000. So these were the different items that we're able to get our operating deficit down to about $4.5 million right now. So implementing the $4.5 million into the projected general fund balance, we are looking at, so right now we have a 40% reserve of about $28 million. And now with using up only $4.5 million versus $7.5 million, we will potentially have only an 8% draw on the reserve. down to 32%. So it's still pretty healthy. Again, the standard is usually 20% reserve, so we're still would be at a healthy place even with the $4.5 million draw. So last council meeting, there was some questions of what the $3 million of the assigned fund balance is here on the second one from the bottom. So assigned just means that they're projects, that it's been allocated to projects, but we haven't completed those projects yet. So when looking at the detail, these are the major programs that make up that $3 million. Right now we have the kitchen grant program. So we have budgeted $1 million for that. I think there's a staff report, maybe last meeting or soon for that. But it hasn't been spent yet. And so that's why it's still just sitting in the signed. Also, the facade improvement program also has about $950,000 allocated for it. I know there's movement on that, but nothing has been paid out yet. the Vandalism Relief Program, and then also the Trash Enclosure Program, which I know Public Works is moving on, but it's not projected to be spent by this fiscal year. So this is just, again, a look back at our fund balance over the years. You could see that our fund balance started to grow a little bit after Measure U came into effect. And then during the COVID years where we benefited from large sales tax increases, we are starting to draw down from that, from the investments we're making with roads and different projects. So our fund balance is on the decline right now. And with the way the budget currently stands, we're estimating to have a fund balance of about $23 million in the reserve, which is about 32%. The other financial considerations on the horizon, we do have the trash enclosure partnership with CRNR. That agreement was recently signed. CRNR will write us a check for 500,000. So we weren't able to put that into the budget projections in time for tonight, but for the next budget adoption that will be in there. So effectively our four and a half million dollar budget deficit should go down to four million. There will also be a little bit from the Lamar billboard lease that was just recently approved. We'll include that in the June 23rd calculations as well, and that'll be about 40,000. So every little bit helps. We also do have a potential of the sale of the property, again, at Sanderson and Stetson. That's not anytime soon, but that could be on the horizon. The animal control service options, and then among some other options to maybe help bring in some additional revenue. Other cost containment strategies, again, that we're doing are hiring freezes for anything that is non-essential or non-revenue generating. Again, the interim city manager or administrative services director does have to approve expenditures over $1,000 right now just so that we can end the year and kind of try to keep a lid on costs. And the data point updates, very excited, the safer extension, eight more months means 1.3 million that the general fund doesn't have to pay next year, so that is very exciting. And then the liability insurance. So we did hear back from our broker with Alliance, and he did give us three different options to look at. Option number one is the $500,000 overall savings, and that's what is in the budget currently, which is what I was saying about the increase of the premium is down from 12.5% down to 4.5%. So that's that $500,000 savings to just stick with the coverage we have now. But it's just we have less of an increase than we were expecting. Option number two, save some additional money. But there are some different terms to that. And I'm not very familiar with that. So we're going to get the broker on the line in just a minute so he can discuss that in more detail. So we do have Robert Lowe. He is our broker with Alliant, and he's been very helpful the last few years when we first got in this situation of losing our insurance to help us find new insurance and helping us find the best options we can. So is he on the line to help?

3:03:26Speaker 8

Can you guys hear me? Yes.

3:03:29 – 3:03:41Speaker 5

Yes. So I have his slide presentation here. Robert, do you just want to go through the slides for council?

3:03:41 – 3:04:01Speaker 8

Yeah, I actually, if you can move to the next slide, that's the one that I'm primarily going to focus on. That'd be super helpful. Good evening, Madam Mayor and members of the city council. Great to at least have the opportunity to speak to you guys tonight. Sorry, I couldn't be there in person. There are life requirements, but I appreciate the accommodation to be able to

3:04:03Speaker 7

Joining through Zoom.

3:04:05 – 3:16:35Speaker 8

My name is Robert Lowe. I'm a senior vice president with Alliant Insurance Services. In way of background, Alliant currently works with 90% of all municipalities and public entities in the state of California. We've been around, really, if you go back to our history, for over 100 years, and we've been specializing in public entity placements since the late 70s. and public entity is all I do. I'd like to start off by at least commending Chief Arellano and all of the work that PD has done. I think we all know very well three years ago, the situation that we were in with CalJPIA and reputationally, there was some challenges. So I personally, again, I've been focusing on public entities for the last 17 years exclusively. You've never seen more commitment and such a rapid turnaround in terms of of how a PD department would implement things. So I definitely do think that a lot of the results that we have been able to come to this year and last are definitely a result of the work that's been put into the police department. So A couple of months ago, I believe maybe a month, month and a half ago, I was asked to attend a meeting with some city staff, including city manager at the time, and the current interim city manager. And, you know, we were asked to kick around some ideas, explore some alternative market options, and see what it is that could be done from a renewal perspective, just based on the financial situation where the city is. at least say that based on the state of the market and when budgets are needed, the numbers that we provide are a conservative number because the one thing we never want to do is have to come back and ask for more money. So anytime that a budget number is provided early in the year, typically it's February or March, those numbers are a little bit padded to ensure that from a budget perspective, there is enough budget for the insurance renewals and a lot of it is based on what we're seeing across the board for public entities now uh we've always had a couple of things working against us uh one we're in california we're very litigious society and there are no court caps so we do have uh some pretty amazing uh jury verdicts that that get handed down and going back a little further there has been some uh large claim settlement and loss activity as part of the city now to give you a little bit of background it's insurance carriers typically look at a seven to ten year loss ratio what that means is that they look at what your losses are to 10 years ago and then what they do is they trend it forward to seeing what that particular loss might have been might be worth today in today's dollars we did have a relatively large uh settlement in 2016 and then over a four-year period i believe starting in 2018 to about 2022 there was the number of claims activity So when we started working with the city, we didn't have many options and the process started a little later than it typically would. So we didn't have much of a choice and we did see a significant increase in premium, but even beyond that, we saw significant increase in the city's retention. where the non-law enforcement retention went to 2 million and the law enforcement retention specifically went to 6 million. Over the 12 months after that, we did attend a couple of conferences with some city staff and Chief Arellano. We met with several underwriters and several carriers we were able to hold a decent line for last year's renewal but also bring an option to help buy down and reduce the law enforcement retention so now the city has a two million dollar retention and the law enforcement retention buy down was a three-year placement we are about to enter year two of that placement so that premium is fixed over the three-year period so we're not going to see any fluctuation that brings us to today in exploring and viewing some of the renal options and and the ask of what alternative markets uh may be available we did come with three options which you'll see on the screen is option number one which is your per expiring program the same carriers same program as as it was last year it's your traditional public entity standalone municipal Option number two carries a little bit of additional risk to it. Option number two is it's stretching that three-year law enforcement retention buy-down to a primary $8 million limit. We keep the $2 million self-insured retention. It's an additional third year. The challenge and the risk with this placement, and I know that the savings may seem appealing, it's $945,000 below the expiring option, is that it only gives the city to potentially have two limit losses over the three-year period. What that means, and for consideration in our legal landscape where we're at, is that over the three-year policy term, the maximum amount that the carrier will pay in losses is $16 million, rather than three bites of $8 million or any combination of. So the challenge and the risk with this is that essentially, for lack of a better term, we would get two bites at the apple over a three year period. The concern with this one is we know that liability claims have a tendency of having a long tail. What that means is the incident that happens today may not get filed until a year from now. And by the time that everything goes through, we could be three to five years beyond the point in POTENTIALLY HAVING A BAD YEAR, IT COULD EXPOSE THE CITY TO NO LONGER HAVING ANY LIMIT IN THAT PRIMARY $8 MILLION, AND THEN THE RETENTION BECOMES INSTEAD OF 2 MILLION, ALL THE WAY UP TO 10, RIGHT, BECAUSE THAT LIMIT WOULD BE GONE. QUESTION NUMBER THREE, WHICH WE FRANKLY DO NOT THINK IS A VIABLE OPTION, BUT AGAIN, THE ASK WAS, see what alternative markets may be willing to do and where we could come in and save money without the city taking on any additional risk, i.e. increasing the retentions, is what's known as an alternative risk transfer placement, commonly referred to as a swing deal. So essentially what that means is that there is a swing component. You pay a low premium on the front end If you have zero losses over that three year period, there is the possibility of a return premium. If you have losses that pierce the carrier's layer over that three year period, it opens the city up to an additional premium to basically reload those limits that ranges anywhere between 4.6 and 5.6 million on top of the upfront premium that would be paid for. It is taking on a lot of risk internally with the city and exposing a lot of taxpayer dollars to any possible. First claim and settlement that may come in against you guys. In my opinion, I would definitely recommend considering a four point five percent increase over expiring, which equates to I think it's about two hundred thousand dollars, give or take expiring premium with six just a shade under 6.9. It provides you with more stability without taking on additional risk and does not expose any additional dollars that could be at risk. On top of that, as I mentioned to city manager and Tiffany and the team, the long-term vision and plan for the city is that we get to a point where some of those large losses are seven to 10 years which means they basically drop off of the loss record and then ultimately makes the city a cleaner looking exposure at which point we can explore either retention changes potential reductions in cost or even joining a jpa um something like a prism where the city was a member of in the past there is if we're looking at maximizing savings option two is viable however it does come with the risk of if we have a couple pretty bad years or pretty bad losses within that three-year window we know that the maximum amount that the carrier will pay is basically two bytes in the three years option number three I personally do not feel that a potential additional $150,000 to $200,000 in savings compared to option two is worth taking on a potential $4.6 to $5 billion in additional premium and additional risk over. Additionally, last point, the per-expiring option, Munich, which is the carrier that basically sits above and around a retention buy-down, has also offered $5,000, a risk control, risk management fund that the city can use to improve its internal programs. And they're also offering an additional $5,000 specifically for PD to explore and evaluate the use of Benchmark Analytics. Benchmark Analytics is a new data company. They've been around for about five or six years. They were established by data scientists from the University of Chicago. And essentially, it's almost like predictive analytics. It takes about a year and a half or two years to get all of the data out of it. Any report that any officer needs to submit post-shift, anything that occurred throughout their shift gets also routed into their system. And what it does is after creating enough of a body of work, it can at least identify with about a 90% to 95% accuracy any officers that could potentially be looking at a serious situation within the next 12 months from when that report comes out. Now, the interesting thing with that is a lot of times it could be just changing their shifts, changing their beats, reassigning them to a different partner. Maybe they need more training, but essentially what it does is it significantly reduces the likelihood and the exposure of the quote-unquote unnecessary extreme situation that ends up resulting in potential nuclear verdicts. So some options, I'm more than happy to open it up for any questions the council may have at this time or clarify any of the points that I made.

3:16:35Speaker 18

All right. Thank you very much. Our city attorney has indicated he has a couple questions for you.

3:16:46 – 3:17:05Speaker 3

Thank you, Mayor. Hi, Robert. I can hear you. The question regarding the aggregate erosion, is that dollar for dollar based on actual losses? I'm looking at alternative one, option two. Or does any claim that penetrates the layer count as one of the two available limits?

3:17:06 – 3:17:29Speaker 8

No, it's a limit, right? So essentially, you can have two $10 million losses excess of the retention, right? So you could have two $10 million losses over the three-year period, or it could be any combination, right? I mean, you could have multiple $4 million losses over that three-year period until that $16 million aggregate is eroded. That's what I thought.

3:17:29 – 3:17:54Speaker 3

I just want to make sure because my follow-up question, Robert, was you've spent a lot of time working with the city's loss history over the past 10 or 7 years, whatever you've been looking at. How many claims would have penetrated the proposed alternative one alliance layer and would the aggregate have ever been consumed?

3:17:56 – 3:18:17Speaker 8

If we're looking at a 10-year period, no. Looking at the 10-year period, there are two years that came relatively close to potentially having exhausted the aggregate, two back-to-back years. And then there was a very significant loss about nine years ago. Okay. But that's a bit of an outlier.

3:18:18Speaker 3

THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND, BUT YOU SPENT A LOT MORE TIME WITH THE DATA, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. THANK YOU. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS, MAYOR.

3:18:29Speaker 18

OKAY. COUNCIL.

3:18:35Speaker 7

I DON'T HAVE ANY AT THE MOMENT.

3:18:43 – 3:19:06Speaker 11

we should play it safe and stay with option one i think all the numbers are calculated on that anyway i would like to hear from the police chief yeah i was going to ask that good evening good evening

3:19:10 – 3:19:27Speaker 18

This is a tough one. I mean, of these alternatives, and I know you guys have done such a significant job eliminating risk in the last couple of years. And the large claim that I think we're referring to was actually.

3:19:29Speaker 29

That's a crosswalk.

3:19:30Speaker 18

Crosswalk over at West Valley. Yes. So it was.

3:19:33Speaker 29

That's what I understand.

3:19:35Speaker 18

Okay. All right. So of these options, if it was coming out of your pocketbook, what would you select?

3:19:43Speaker 29

That's a lot of pressure.

3:19:45 – 3:20:26Speaker 29

But I did sit in the original meeting. I think Robert just asked, I think the city attorney just asked the question that needed to be asked. What does it look like the last 10 years? And then he said we had two years that might have got closed, but we would not have went over. And I think I took that into consideration. And if it were me, I'd go with alternative one, option two. That's with how we were doing things in the past. We're doing things much differently. We've put a lot of things in place to mitigate risk and liability. That doesn't mean something can happen tomorrow, right? I mean, we don't know, but that'd be my choice.

3:20:27 – 3:20:42Speaker 18

So are there, and I guess this is for both you and city attorney and city manager, Are there any pending cases right now that have the probability of going over this SIR and blowing us out of the water?

3:20:44 – 3:21:07Speaker 29

I think we have one case pending with this current insurance right now that happened July 4th a couple years ago, but Everything is leaning on our side as far as everything done correctly. We had the DOJ investigation and we got the report back and it's very thorough and I was very pleased with that report. I think that is the only one actually at this point.

3:21:08 – 3:21:44Speaker 3

Yeah, so I have a third question for Robert before I answer this question. Absolutely. Robert, in terms of if the City Council opted to go with alternative one, which you've labeled option two, and I'm going to keep saying both of them just so I don't get it wrong, would the claims that were incurred or the data loss following July 1st, 2025, would those be included in that aggregate or is it prospective only starting July 1st, 2026?

3:21:47 – 3:22:37Speaker 8

no it is including whatever was uh july 1 2025. okay so post we're stretching essentially we're just stretching the three-year um additionally the claim that chief ariano mentioned right now was july 4th of 2024. so we didn't have that that uh retention buy down in place at that time I will add, sorry, over a four-year period, right, I believe that the city had a $250,000 retention in the JPA where you guys were members previously.

3:22:39Speaker 7

From 2018 to 2022, there was $38 million of losses.

3:22:48 – 3:23:09Speaker 8

Now, because of the JPA, I don't have all of the data of how large those claims were, but if you look at over a four-year period, it was $38 million, which is part of the reason why the city is no longer within that JPA, right? So just all the information being available in order for you guys to make the decision is why I just wanted to bring it up.

3:23:11 – 3:24:45Speaker 3

Thank you, Robert. To answer your question, Mayor, there are two recent claims that have the, in my estimation, the potential to exceed the city's current 2 million SIR. One of those is the law enforcement case that actually had several public speakers come, talk to the council about. However, that was investigated thoroughly by Cal DOJ. They made the same conclusion that the city made. which was that liability is unlikely in that case. I mean, a lawsuit has been filed, and so there will be litigation on it. However, the city's position on that one is that the city should prevail. The other one is a dangerous condition on public property case, which involves a a sinkhole that developed over infrastructure operated by Eastern Municipal Water District. The city and Eastern were both named in a lawsuit resulting from a injury to a motorcyclist in that sinkhole. The city has cross-complained for indemnity against Eastern. The city believes that Eastern, if anyone is liable, it's Eastern, it's not the city. So there is not, so while there are those two out there, and as the city learned with the Toussaint case, anything can happen when you go to trial. Those are the two that are out there and the city's analysis of those is that the city liability should be low.

3:24:46Speaker 18

All righty, thank you.

3:24:48 – 3:25:03Speaker 29

I just had one question for Robert, or if someone can clarify that for the benchmark analytics, we did look into that. I wouldn't mind going that direction. I think it's a good thing, but was that under option one or option two or either or from Munich, Robert?

3:25:06 – 3:25:56Speaker 8

sorry i was on mute that is under option one there is nothing um preventing me right from from asking them if they're willing to provide it for option two as you can tell by the chart under option two munich is giving us a much smaller line of coverage right they're giving us a two million dollar limit which may make them a little hesitant to provide any of those funds Either way, I have no problem asking that question. There's some placements on the top layer of option two that we're still negotiating, but based on actuarial information, we should absolutely land at this number. But I will absolutely ask if that benchmark analytics would be available if you guys go the option two route. Thank you.

3:25:57Speaker 18

Okay. Was that in reference to the additional $5,000 for a program to do something to enable tracking?

3:26:08Speaker 18

Okay. That's what I was asking. All right. And that's on option two, alternative one?

3:26:12Speaker 29

Option one, but he can ask for option two is what I understood Robert's saying. Correct.

3:26:18 – 3:26:29Speaker 18

Okay. All right. Well, in view of the fact that we are not being asked to make a decision tonight, Do you have anything to weigh in on this?

3:26:31 – 3:27:14Speaker 30

I think these are all really good questions. A lot of the same ones that I was asking Robert a week ago when we had a meeting. I think it really comes down to a policy decision. I think the city's doing well with our liability and I think it might be time to you know, save almost a million dollars. But with knowing, you know, it is stretching it out, so we're looking at the past year as well, and as the city attorney mentioned, we do have those two maybe low possibilities, but they're still out there. It's definitely something to think about when we only get two limit losses versus three in this option.

3:27:15 – 3:28:04Speaker 3

So that was a good point. Robert, let's make sure we have this clarification here. The alliance option two, essentially the term begins July 1st, 2025 for that policy. Is that correct? correct essentially what they're doing effective what they're offering to do effective july 1 2026 is stretching the limit from four to eight okay so you're the same three-year term so then the the liability uh uh claims that the chief and i were talking about both had data losses prior to july 1st 2025. so they would they would not be a consideration Is that correct?

3:28:06Speaker 8

That is correct.

3:28:13 – 3:28:31Speaker 18

So, let me further clarify that one. So, in Option 2, Alternative 1, the two limit losses that we were just talking about from 24 and 25 would not be considered as either of those two limit losses.

3:28:35Speaker 8

That is correct.

3:28:38 – 3:29:51Speaker 3

So we, okay. And Mayor, I would just say that based on that, it is not unusual for us, and Robert kind of mentioned this during his presentation, liability lags, right? So there is a claims presentation timeline that folks have to follow. They also have a statute of limitations with which to file a lawsuit. There are certain exceptions for things like federal civil rights cases, which can come in years after the fact. They don't even have to file a claim if they're not asserting state law claims. So it is not unusual for us here in the beginning middle of 2026 to not fully have our heads wrapped around all the liability that may have been incurred over the last year. We may not even have claims filed for liability incurred in the first half of 2026. That being said, the police chief, risk, my office, the city manager, actively monitor significant risk events. I am not aware since July 1st of 2025 of any significant risk events that could be triggered by this. And the chief may want something like that or no, it may as well.

3:29:52 – 3:30:04Speaker 29

No, I'm in the same boat. But like Stephen said, something could be pending out there that we don't even know hasn't been filed yet. I DON'T KNOW OF ANYTHING. I HAVE NO CONCERNS SINCE 2025.

3:30:05Speaker 3

WE KNOW ABOUT USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY CAUSE THIS KIND OF.

3:30:08 – 3:30:19Speaker 29

WE'LL HIGHLIGHT THOSE OR SET THOSE ASIDE AND WE'LL START WORKING ON THEM IMMEDIATELY. WE'LL NOTIFY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WHAT DIRECTION WE SHOULD GO. I HAVE NONE OF THOSE AT THIS POINT FROM JULY 1, 2025.

3:30:19Speaker 30

I CONCUR. I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT WOULD GO TO THAT LEVEL AT THIS TIME.

3:30:30 – 3:31:20Speaker 19

So, say we go with option one and we go through the year, normal, good old, no big claims, no nothing. And we're back here next year. How much less money do you think These options would present themselves if we stayed on course, stayed conservative, kept the wonderful stuff we're doing at the police department. Does being conservative help us next year with option one?

3:31:27 – 3:34:11Speaker 8

professionally believe it does and the reason why is the way that insurance carriers typically put up limit and charge premium is actuarially the way they look at things is try to determine in what time frame they can expect a limits loss or to pay the full limit of loss that they are putting up for you, right? A lot of the reason why we and the market is in the current situation where it was going back to 2012, 2013, they were estimating and determining that they would experience a limits loss once every 10 years. right so if i'm anticipating a 10 a five million dollar loss every 10 years then i divide up i need to collect that five million dollars over that 10-year period with a little bit of overhead and a little additional padding but i need to collect it over that those 10 years in premium when we started seeing uh verdicts skyrocket and cost just go up now the way that insurance carriers are underwriting accounts, they're expecting a limits loss once every three years, right? Now, were that extreme correction, even though the insurance buyers felt it over the, probably starting in 2020 to about last year, maybe even 2024, is carriers have already kind of broadcasted that they feel that the insurance rates are where they should be, right? They're collecting enough premium to have money in the bank to be able to pay the losses, particularly for law enforcement and public entity type of insurance. So apples to apples, if we were able to jump in a time machine and go to June 9th of 2027, would anticipate an increase or below what we delivered now, if not a decrease because we were able to find a JPA that was comfortable with you guys coming in. Because by next year, the crosswalk claim for 20, the incident occurred in 2016, the settlement was in 2018, the carriers look at the date of loss. By the 2027 policy year, that claim would have come off of the loss run. So from a conservative, safe, traditional perspective, I think we would be in just as advantageous, if not a better position next year, assuming no losses and nothing changing.

3:34:12Speaker 18

So would that now go ahead? I didn't mean to interrupt you.

3:34:17 – 3:34:28Speaker 8

So option two is definitely an opportunity for you guys to bet on yourselves a little bit more, knowing that there's a bit more risk

3:34:29 – 3:34:56Speaker 18

INVOLVED IF FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER WE HAVE A CONSECUTIVE TOUGHY AND THREE IS THE ONE THAT I WOULDN'T EVEN LOOK AT SO IF THAT HELPS CLARIFY FOR YOU A LITTLE BIT SO COMPARE THAT THEN THAT OF OPTION ONE STAYING WITH THAT WHAT THE INCREASE WOULD BE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY CLAIMS TO OPTION TWO ALTERNATIVE ONE

3:34:58 – 3:36:34Speaker 8

what would happen to the alternative so the primary eight million excess of two so that's the allianz layer that we're stretching that's a fixed premium across the board right uh where impact if we had losses is everybody above those but again we're talking about a tail the city attorney mentioned that that either within a 12-month period we would know what potentially is out there Or by the time that it comes in, we're far out, maybe the financial situation has changed and it's not that much of a concern at that point, right? We're talking five, six years down the road. I think, you know, don't want to pick on PD because it's not just all them, right? The liability is your sidewalks, your potholes, your car accidents, your tree limbs, so it could be a number of liabilities from the city right i mean i think we've all seen significant jury verdicts from a tree limb falling or from a car accident or so it's not just limited to pd uh again just for consideration but i think both of these are very very viable options i think just from a transparency perspective one is safe and traditional right fully funded program. The other one has a little bit of a risk associated with it. But you guys are at least given the opportunity to bet on yourself.

3:36:36Speaker 18

Okay, thank you very much. Any other questions or comments? Noah?

3:36:40 – 3:37:27Speaker 30

I would just like to add one other I guess some more food for thought and maybe another option is if we were to select the option to alternative one and then also recruit and hire a risk manager that could really focus on all of our programs to keep us safe as possible. And I think, you know, if we had someone to watch over and provide some training and keep things everyone in the front of their minds to be liability conscious, I think that might be another option. And we'd see the 945,000 in savings and we could spend some of that for that position that would help oversee.

3:37:29 – 3:37:46Speaker 18

another board that I sit on, actually did that this past year. And at every meeting, they have a presentation on a safety factor. And they they did that. So since we are not, you want to say something?

3:37:47 – 3:38:54Speaker 3

I want to, but not to give unsolicited recommendations. I think that is a very wise recommendation for the council to consider. Obviously, it's a policy question, which option to go with and what to do with those savings. However, I do think that this city would benefit significantly from someone whose job it is to focus on this issue. Only because this issue is split among many of us who also have many other things to do for the city. And it's important. And as we've seen over the last few years, it can really drive expenditures in the city. And I think, you know, to Robert's point about, you know, Claims falling off, PD doing their absolute best to keep risk under control, I think putting our best foot forward when we go back into the market or we go to approach a JPIA, I think informing them that we have a dedicated and experienced and qualified risk manager would go a long way.

3:38:56Speaker 7

That's definitely a good idea.

3:38:58 – 3:39:30Speaker 18

All right. Well, as I said before, we are not being asked to make a decision on this tonight, but we definitely have a lot more information to go on and probably we'll end up asking more questions of everyone. So I do want to thank you, Robert, for the presentation. That was very enlightening. Chief, thank you for your comments. City Manager, City Attorney, Kayleen did a great job. And are there any comments or questions from council? No, I really think everybody's doing their best.

3:39:30 – 3:39:42Speaker 19

And I would like her math brain to just come over and massage my math brain, you know, because you really got it going.

3:39:42Speaker 5

Thank you. I did win the math Olympics in sixth grade. That explains it.

3:39:46Speaker 7

That explains it. Very good.

3:39:51Speaker 18

Do we have any registered speakers on this item?

3:39:53Speaker 15

Ms. No registered speakers, ma'am. Ms.

3:39:55 – 3:40:07Speaker 18

Okay. Anyone in the audience want to make a comment? Chief, come on down. Ms. Absolutely. Mr.

3:40:07 – 3:40:20Speaker 29

I'm not going to get emotional here. I'm trying not to, but I have the title of chief and my name comes out a lot, but it's not. I held the chief of police position, but it's all my guys and girls who are doing all the good work out there. So I just want to give the kudos to all of them.

3:40:25 – 3:40:55Speaker 18

THANK YOU, CHIEF. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. WE AREN'T GOING TO APPROVE THIS ITEM. SO THERE'S NOTHING TO DO THERE. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL AGAIN. GOOD PRESENTATION. WE'LL BE HAVING MORE DISCUSSIONS IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO APPROVE THIS LAST MEETING IN JUNE. SO THANK YOU, COLLEEN. AND THANK YOU, TIFFANY. GOOD JOB, ALL OF YOU. Moving on to city council and staff reports. Connie. Okay, here we go.

3:40:56 – 3:43:10Speaker 19

RCA, June 1st, I believe it was, and WRCOG. Nothing really big to report there. We had our IOC meeting, and we talked about the funds that are invested in the 1 to 3 and 1 to 5, which are doing very well. And then we have the fluid more money that we can get a hold of. And we all had a discussion about where it is, what it is, and whether we could be using the public's money better or saving it or earning it better. And so, we at that time determined to move I believe it was it's a 60-40 so it was exactly what council set up when you did that for the 60-40 they wanted to see us get a little bit more money for our money so we did go with that recommendation to move the 15 million and 60-40 in the one to three-year and the one to five. Still leaves us with plenty of money. Tiffany, she even chimed in and gave us her two cents. And she is on it. I mean, she's watching it very carefully. So we really had a good meeting. And I thank Jackie for making the motion and getting it going. AND THEN, OF COURSE, I MET WITH MY YOUTH COUNSEL LAST And that was bittersweet. I didn't stick around because I wanted to hear what they had to say. But I did tell them to be critical. If there's something, I mean, because they were guinea pigs. And they were smart guinea pigs. But I did tell them to be critical because we have to learn and move on. So, I think that was, if we did anything right, Tom, we chose the kids we chose.

3:43:11 – 3:43:49Speaker 7

and they really performed and so that's the end thank you very good jackie oh tom um i just want to go back to the youth council they educated us and i really feel that uh they laid a great foundation for the upcoming councils that we're going to have so i really give kudos to them um Other than that, I think I'm just about at my 40-day mark until I'm out of here. So it's getting there quick.

3:43:50Speaker 18

Okay. Thank you. Jackie.

3:43:55 – 3:49:39Speaker 16

Okay. Yesterday we had an arts and culture meeting, and... We went over a new document that we want to institute for the Art in Public Places program overview and application. It was a good meeting. We got a lot of input from different departments and ad hoc members. So we're going to tweak that a little bit. And at our next meeting, maybe we can finalize it and publish it to everybody that is interested in helping us with our public art and for the developers that are going to be building because now we have a stipulation that they have to contribute to our art in public places. So that was part of our meeting. We spent quite a bit of time on that. The Hemet 365 is up and running. Thank you, Jennifer. She told us that in the first week, it had over 300 hits. And that's really good. And there's not much on it yet, but people are interested in it. So this is a platform where you can advertise anything that you're doing. If you're a business, if you have like a special going on, if you're a nonprofit, if you're a church, any organization that has some event coming up, what you should do is go to www.hemet365.com and register your organization there. And then when you have things, for example, I just saw a flyer for the kids fishing tournament fundraiser. And I told the people that put that out, I said, this should go on Hema 365. And the lady that's kind of running it, she says, oh, I didn't know about it. She goes, I'm doing it right now. So that was really good. So we're going to have another one in there soon. But it's a great, great way for you to advertise what's going on in the community. And it's a calendar for everybody to see what's going on. So they're looking for things to do in the Valley. And now you have a place to go to see what's going on. So that was a great thing. Let me see if I had anything else. The mural is awesome. Everybody just loves it. It's so beautiful. And we just got all kinds of great comments from people in person and social media. And it's a really, really big hit. Mid-July, we're going to have kind of a grand opening ribbon cutting for it, so look for the date and the time in that. I can talk about that more at the next meeting. But it's going to be a celebration of our first community mural, so we're really excited about that. We did a business walk last Thursday. And we went to the South State Professional Building. And we had some extended conversations with several of the businesses there. And it included a dermatology, lawyers, physical therapy. Ramona Tire Company has a beautiful office and facility. The lady was so gracious. She opened up the door. She said, do you want some water? And she gave us a whole tour of the whole place. It was great. So we really enjoyed getting out and meeting our business partners out in the city. We had a Hemet stock farm meeting the beginning of this month. We're still working with the developer to establish housing, retail, and preserving some of the buildings and the grandstand, we hope. So we hope to have an event center there, a gathering place. So we are still in the planning stages with the developer. But we are excited to see this come to fruition in the next months to get more details and to get it nailed down. So we're working on it. The Ramona Bowl, they have some concerts coming up. This Saturday, June 13th, they're having what they call Dreams and Desperados. Fleetwood Mac and the Eagles Tribute Bands will be there. It starts at 6 o'clock. And then on Saturday, June 20th, is the Ramona Market, and that starts at 4 o'clock. And it's a great place just to hang out, see some of the... things that people are making and selling in our area. There's food, there's music, it's just a fun event, a beautiful view up from Ramona Bowl. So we encourage you to go support that. And then later, REO Speedwagon Sticks and Journey is gonna have a tribute concert there, so that'll be good. And I just wanna take some time and thank the Ramona Bowl board And our mayor, Linda Krupa, was a big part of this. And the board and friends for the wonderful party that we had for our retiring city manager, Mark Prestwich. It was hosted up at Ramona Bowl. It was a very special night. And the community came out. A lot of city staff came out. It was a great night. It was a great night. We all really enjoyed that. Mark had family and friends there, and he was just really touched by everything. So it was really, really nice. Let me see. I think that's all I have.

3:49:40 – 3:52:28Speaker 11

You're on. We had a follow-up meeting with the Hemet Kitchen Grant ad hoc group and discussed two items for two restaurants that were left out of the grant process. It was in the city manager's office with the city manager and Ben Sandoval, our economic director. I also attended the Temecula State of the City where Mayor Jessica Alexander spoke on public safety, infrastructure, and transportation, economic development, community engagement, and the future vision of Temecula. Moving on. And also attended the San Jacinto Encampment Quarterly Leadership Meeting where several topics were discussed. Behavioral health and crisis response systems. The Behavioral Health and Crisis Response Team were at their best in this meeting. They gave the distinction between Home Connect, which focuses on housing and cares, which focuses on mental health and substance abuse, And they also spoke for the crisis, the Mobile Crisis Response Team, the MCRT. They expanded their hours from 24 to 24-7. And the county operates 50 teams from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. While contract provider Sycamore covers the overnight shift from 8 p.m. to 8 a.m. for the homeless. And I believe that's just county only. And there were other topics. They had a new 800 number, 888-374-1113. And then a 686 helpline for community help members. This way you can get assistance through the 800 numbers. They also spoke about legislative updates and new facilities. The new facility that they wanted to put in Hemet about four years ago is now being built in Meade Valley. This particular village cost $500 million to create the campus. It should be ready in January of 2027. complete and so they'll be sending homeless and people that are need help out to this new facility in Meade Valley what else there's other things but I'm not going to bring them up now so I think that's it for me thank you

3:52:28 – 3:55:49Speaker 18

All right, thank you very much. I will report on the Hemet Library Board of Trustees. And the big thing is that the summer reading program is now in session. And it is called Plant a Seed, Read. Makes a lot of sense. So get your kids, your grandkids, your nieces and nephews, whatever, get them signed up for a summer reading program over at the library. Let's see, whichever. RTA Riverside Transit, we approved the budget at the last meeting in May. And through that budget process, RTA is bringing the Dial-A-Ride service in-house. and that means they are hiring 60 community bus drivers, four operations supervisors, and four mechanics. So if you're looking for a job, go on their website, Riverside Transit Agency. They will be having job fairs, and they also have, I believe, the application online. What do I have? RCTC is tomorrow. I was in Los Angeles for the SCAG meeting last Thursday. We had a presentation and an update on the high-speed rail. It was interesting looking at the faces of all of the people in the Transportation Policy Committee as the presentation was very, very excited. The presenter was very excited because they expect to lay track sometime between 2026 and 2033 from Bakersfield to Fresno. Whoopee. Just really excited about all of this. Then they talked about the Anaheim to LA 30 miles. They think environmental will be back on that in October, but they've been working on it for 15 years. Anyway, we just kind of all kept looking at each other and laughing. Not really laughing. We were smiling. We were so excited for them. The other exciting thing, and Monique will be so happy about this, the Regional Council approved forming a subcommittee on the seventh cycle of the RHNA. to support the methodology and the allocation plan coming out from HCD. We had a lot of questions about HCD's methodology, and interestingly enough, HCD doesn't really have an answer for their methodology, but it is coming soon, Monique, so have fun with that one. The other thing I do need to announce is that we are making a change to two of the ad hoc committees. And Councilmember Lodge is going to be moved from the stock farm to the theater. And I am moving from the theater to the stock farm ad hoc. And that's all I have. So City Manager, report.

3:55:50Speaker 30

I have nothing to report. Thank you, Mayor.

3:55:52 – 3:56:35Speaker 18

Oh, wow. Okay. Then, that's on the next page. With that being said, our future agenda items on June 23rd, we're going to have TEFRA, T-E-F-R-A hearing for Palm Villas at State Street Housing Project and an update on the street maintenance ordinance. And then in July, we will have an AI policy discussion. So exciting things are happening. We'll come back on those things. And there being no further business, this meeting is adjourned to the next city council meeting on June 23rd, 2026. Thank you for joining us. We are adjourned.

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