Fiscal Court Committees - Regular Meeting

Don't have any action items listed from last meeting. That didn't support us. Submit anything.

Well, it just came to my attention. I should have, I guess. We're actively doing interviews. We just finished up the last one about just before I came over. So we've got those complete. We'll have a list of what we're going to do, propose to do here in just a couple days. We're just going to go back and maybe re-interview a couple and go from had a lot of a lot of good interest. We interviewed six had nine. We had a couple that come in late. They were already close. What on the website they sent those. So we've already responded back with them. Letters just basically state, you know, and I'm not gonna throw those applications away, obviously, because, you know, you don't want to discount anybody. So

a big interest in it isn't it fair amount yeah fair amount of yeah good that's what you hope for yeah all right anything else pet no sir i do not thank you peters yes sir um it is time to renew our contract with our collections group uh Credit Clearinghouse of America. Terms have not changed. This is a two-year contract. Jimmy has already seen it. Approved it. Let's see on the next.

So no terms have changed?

No terms have changed. It's from September 1 of this year to September 1 or August 30, 30th of 2021.

they pull their fees out of the collections. So it's not a payment, a claims that would ever go through court. It's just net money.

So the amount they're charging is the same.

Yeah, and it's competitive. I mean, it's normal. It's like that, especially for medical claims.

What do you say the date for all this?

We need to renew it September 1 of 26, and it'll be valid through August 31 of 2028.

August 31? Yes, sir.

Anyone have any questions concerning this contract?

How's the ambulances? The new ambulances?

It's back. It is getting inspected next week and it will be on the road.

No nations account. Good point. Where are we at with that?

Jenny worked the resolution out. I'm really gonna talk about finance, so I don't care if we do that next week.

I want one, anything pop up between? I don't have anything in the court, but we are still working through the battery backup solution that failed on this.

Overall engineers on that, figuring out what we need.

Length of leak time currently, it's all about 15 months, maybe you can get that solution in here. So with some other items that we're going to put in play, make sure that the center stays up. Battery backups, you're familiar with those. So we've got to get some additional ones in the facility to keep servers up and running in case we have an outage. So a little more extra expense versus buying the entire device for months. We had an outage yesterday. As soon as I get a quote on that, we'll push that through the committee. We've got a lot of all these state contracts, so 80,000, I think, is what it costs us in 2015 to put one in. So we need to figure out how much that will probably look like.

The insurance is going to cover it. We're pretty certain the insurance is going to cover it. With all the work that's been done, it's not the total replacement, right? I mean, Well, the push is going to be for total replacement because it was working because it's actually going to kick back from a power issue. And, you know, it was a working piece of equipment. So we've been lucky on some of that.

Well,

It was actually low power and... 15 years they used to replace them.

We had some alarms from some other devices that cracked.

Voltage, you know, you need to get some other voltage frequency alerts from a separate device. Not connected to it. By the time it was up, it was melting, basically.

Pretty much two boards and it caught fire. the engineer was actually brought in to verify that there wasn't nothing wrong with the piece of equipment. It was because of low voltage that came in, kind of a brownout situation that ruined the piece of equipment.

We're working through all those details, but I'd be able to turn it on. And there's actual flame. It's electronic, so you just, you know, I mean, though, is there fire? We don't think anybody saw fire. If our department can come check it out, we're smoking the equipment. I like fire, I think you're in charge. No, the fire department was called and they came out and the area we were sitting in had smoke. The device was, the power was killed to it, so it wouldn't continue to. But we were able to reroute everything, everything was back online, and the service was really interactive. As you all noticed, we came to the parking lot that day, we were out in the parking lot, we were in the trailer, so we did a great job. You have to deal with the issues with the service. And we had to build a degree route. Now one calls the neighboring counties, and they're going to take the calls. We're stabbing the calls around at the city police. Send dispatchers all over the place. We even have a CAD system that's cloud-based.

We're able to get phone calls. Just need the internet. So, we went well.

See what the boat looks like and see what the, you know, what it's going to cost. I'm picturing nothing.

Just out of curiosity, if there is a situation where we don't have power, batteries aren't working, kind of like what happened to the river maybe, and let's say there's a tornado and it took power lines or something down, potentially what's internet, how would it function?

So with my current engineers, we're looking at a secondary site. Meade County has a secondary site. It's actually at the school model. There's plenty of space there if we can imagine it's reasonable. controllers that take the phone calls. We can move equipment over there to the backup center in case we have to vacate the building. That's what we're looking at, too. We have a place to go. Currently, the county doesn't really have the property to park equipment, so the team will have to see what we can accomplish up there.

We still haven't done one such thing.

Yeah.

We didn't store uniforms in there.

I didn't know you were occupying that building.

Thank you.

you're on Nolan now wouldn't want to try to find a different okay yeah just in case because you know Nolan has a big wire I think we ran a generator one time for almost two months just trying to get

system that failed us to prepare.

Even on a power issue.

We have redundant internet connections.

Well, I didn't know.

Off-site or somewhere else.

It'd be the same thing. There's redundant. We'll have Brandenburg up there. Two different, it comes in two different places with connections there. I think up there, even if they're having a third Here, we made one in July, as far as . We've been looking at that, too. So, wind stream fails, brown river fails. We do have hot spots on all cell phones. It can be a one-up on all the scenarios, but it costs money. It costs money.

You know, an officer might want to check with our insurance company.

We have could be an ADP endorsement on the policy. So check on the county's policy insurance policy for the city for the equipment down there.

Yeah, the claims already been filed and they've been in here from the day one and started it.

That's what I asked.

Oh, that's that's right.

Okay. Yeah, that's right.

Yeah, that's your Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. Sure. His company said, engineer. Okay. Just make sure what, how it happened, happened. It wasn't, you know, it was battery side causing the outage, you know, the failure in the equipment, you know, so I think utility is what we kind of figured, what we looked at and engineer confirmed till he was missing link there, you know, end up generating.

So, Well, hopefully next month we'll have everything together and still get that started. Sounds good. Anybody else have anything for 911?

All right. The sheriff didn't submit anything. Next thing on the list, emergency management.

Everybody knows about the issue last night. I think it's solved, but I think I'll explain a little bit better, but the big thing is we've got everything worked out.

Kenny, did you see it? Saw a lot of concerns and comments about it, and this was created before that, so just wanted to kind of maybe talk about it.

Is there anything on the news release that's not clear, I guess, or that you want further explanation?

Again, this was put on before, and so... Oh, okay, on the agenda. And so, yeah, I think that that clears up a lot of it. I mean, I do also want to throw out there, technology can't always be 100% correct, too, right? So, you know, out of Personally, from my perspective, you don't want to fault the deputy or someone who's actually being precautious and trying to potentially save someone's life. I can understand there's probably concerns from citizens or elderly people or somebody that maybe had to do a little extra work to be safe. Simultaneously, from my perspective, better safe than sorry is one thing. So I think a lot of people

It's kind of what dispatchers were doing when this information came into them.

It's like, they're not getting alerts, and that's what the service was like. I'm getting something.

I'm getting something saying there's something that looked right.

Should we not alert? Someone's been there almost 20 years.

Yeah, that's a lot of coverage. Yeah.

And after seeing some of those roll clouds that some of the folks took pictures of, I'd be scared too if I saw them.

And Code 3's got some good images on there too. Wow.

Really, that's the way it worked. I did clarify our protocol. So going forward, what it really was, I just don't know if you understood that. We put out tornadoes. We do the sirens whenever the National Weather Service tells us that there's a tornado. That's what's supposed to happen. And it will in the future, which is now very clear. But by saying that, I don't follow what happened. They were just trying to do the right thing, right? And hopefully that's what happened.

Also, we've already reached out to the National Weather Service about doing some storm spotter training classes to help people understand what they're looking at. A lot of things they've jumped in. We need 100 classes. However many people are about to go and do it, they will be more than happy to kind of understand. Procedure 4 had several industries that was highly upset because they completely stopped production.

and pull the people out. So bottom line, though, I think for spotters that know what they're to train, they know to call National Weather Service. That's what we're supposed to do on that. So in our case, my understanding, who called? Oh, no, deputies.

The deputies called, right. I think it's probably getting scolded by a weatherman. whether he's right or wrong and stuff, he still gets paid. All the time, you've been around 50% of the time for a bad guess. Just saying.

How many times have they said it's not right?

You never make everybody happy. The only thing I think would be accurate is it'd be really hot.

We've had recent events where it was tornado and no warning, no sign. We've had that recently, and I'd rather it be this way than the other way. But I understand the manufacturing plants. But there was also some people said on their weather screens they saw a hook. So, you know, whether it come down or not. It happens so fast.

That's why everybody that's listening should sign up for REAP. Right. And that's the great thing about it, though. Also, you know, it's an automatic. If whatever weather, the National Weather Service, whether it's a thunderstorm, tornado, whatever, it's automatic through them. 911 doesn't have to do anything.

I think the thing to take away from it is if the system worked, that's one thing. If we had a candle factory in the western part of the state we assisted on, And there were several occupants in there that had no warning. And if you were witness to some of those decedents and some of those injuries, it's, I know you use the term cry wolf and everything, but like the thing take out, maybe there is a procedure needs to be perfected. But I don't think you pause anybody for safety. And the second thing is, like I said, if all of the systems went off and people heard it, then it did work. So that's all. No matter what.

That's a good point.

There's always going to be issues. Like I said, those folks down in that candle factory were still at their workstations.

This isn't on the agenda, but are we anywhere with the CPI, the volunteer department, anybody working anywhere on that?

I have sent some things to me and I've gone to the factory.

You were standing up to speak.

We can hear you. And obviously see him too. Hey guys, this is just a change of policy procedure. Prisoner of Strait is part of the policy procedures.

They get their, you know, Every January, you have to go ahead and bring it or whatever, but when you look at it, stuff all to do with the software strength system might be in the hospital and. No.

No.

I'm good.

I don't know if that's there.

None of my folks need to be restrained. None of my folks need to be restrained. It's what TACO is really pushing now.

It's what the National Corrections are pushing now. We have restraint chairs and stuff that people will pull on and stuff and hurt themselves and stuff sometimes. But this saves money and, you know, cuts down on liability. So that's why we're adding it to our repertoire. So don't look over that stuff and all that and we'll go over there if you have any questions.

What is it?

It's a soft restraint system to where instead of having a chair that you actually have hand restraints, leg restraints and everything, it's meant to lay somebody flat, put a soft restraint system over the legs and arms to where they're not moving around, they're not throwing fists and they're not biting and stuff like that to where it's, they say it's more humane where you have a soft restraint system where you're not having any kind of cuffs, any kind of leg shackles and like that. And they say that it does better for positional fixation and different things like that. So it's just a more softer restraint. Some might be used at the hospital compared to some might be used at the jail, but it's a new thing. And I'm always worried about new stuff. So now that some of the jails have been using it for about a year, And it's been successful. We're up for it. To where, you know, if somebody was to get this system of stuff, you don't really have to wrestle them or you have this system, you pull over and it, the Velcro straps and everything, it's a whole lot better for them. They don't, it's all less impact and everything else than actually having to pick up something and put them in a chair and use the leather straps and all that stuff to lock their wrists and arms in. Of course you don't.

If you were to try to, try to,

We have instructors now. We sent people to the instructors school already and we bought the system and we have not started training on it yet because they haven't put in the policy procedure yet. How many do we have to have? We have two of them already. But no cost to the county. It comes with a commissary because it's on the state of the security. The system itself is about $2,000 a wrap which is commensurate with a restraint chair. And these won't flip over while the person's in it. So for the trench tray, you actually have to have a hook to the wall, make sure it don't flop over. This right here is stuff that actually protects their head and neck. And then we also have a system, you know, it's just like a board and it pops up and you actually wheel the person around and stuff instead of having to pick them up.

So it keeps them straight and everything else.

So it looks pretty safe. Like I said, it's been It's been used for about a year in most jails here in Kentucky and stuff. There's a lot of people that like to jump on the first new thing they see. But like I said, I can wait until it's proven. But it could save, like I said, it could help with liability. We don't have much liability. We don't have any issues with restraint chair, but just in case. What's that? Oh, yeah. I couldn't imagine this ever. It's very rare we had to use more than one. chair ever you know but we still have the chairs just in case but we still have these stuff so yes two will be pretty sufficient you know like I said that's why you know I don't want to do too much of stuff because I mean you know we only have yeah that'll be fine yeah it was put for the I sent it to Jenny before we even purchased the equipment I bought it just so we could you know use it for the training for the when the church was going to be in But yeah, it was seen a year ago. Do you hear anything about the new electronic gloves that they're talking about using? That we're talking about using? We've had them for two years. Really? Yeah, it's in the policy. Everything is still. That was a couple of years ago. But we don't tell. Our ship is using them, but very rarely. How do they work? So they have a system where they have probes inside the ends of the fingers in the palm. to turn it on you take the thumb and you actually hold down a button for a certain amount of time and it makes them live to where instead of like a taser which you would shoot at somebody this you would just touch the back of an arm and it gives a small shock it's a whole lot less jolt than the taser um and it's made to where it will it won't uh mess with a defibrillator which the tasers aren't supposed to either but you never know but there's no projectiles no they just walk up and you know the person being unruly and stuff. You just touch the back of the arm just like you would a hands-on restraint and then get a little jolt. That's it.

How often have you had to use the gloves?

Very, very rarely. A lot of times, people thought whenever we got the tasers, the taser would be something we used a lot. So we have to get the bright yellow one so people can see it and it tears more. When people know you have them, they don't mess around as much. So Um, you know, my whole career, I've never, I've never tased anybody. I've never pepper sprayed anybody or any of that stuff. You know, these new, I'm just looking at it like, Oh, you know, but it does work and it does help. But it's, uh, it's saved a lot of people, you know, from, you know, having to get tased or pepper sprayed or, you know, stuff like that, you know? Um, you know, so, but yeah, as long as they're responding to the right guidelines and everything, it works really well.

So, so this has to go through fiscal court. Yeah.

So we have to set that up for, uh, As long as everybody reads it over and stuff and agrees with it and stuff, it's pretty simple stuff. And if any of y'all want to come down to the training and stuff, we'll wrap you up. Or at least the instructor will.

Have they wrapped you up with it yet? Is that all you got, John?

We don't have enough employees for that.

I'm afraid you wouldn't have wrapped it. That's it, sir. Thank you.

That's all you got?

We'll put that on the agenda.

So only two action items we're going to have for the agenda is the jail policy chain and the credit clearinghouse to renew the contract. Anybody else have anything?

No, and we'll adjourn at 3.55.