Fiscal Court Committees - Regular Meeting

We don't have any action items from last meeting. Warner, he did not submit anything. So that will put us in a mess to talk about ambulance bids, surplus and ambulances, some monitor discussions, holiday plans, a little bit of everything. A little bit of everything. I got a hodgepodge of stuff for you.

Here you go, sir. So our last committee meeting You guys gave me permission to go ahead and put out for bid a new ambulance build and remounts. So what's coming around to you is the bid for the new ambulance. This is from Atlantic Emergency Solutions. They're based out of Shelbyville, Kentucky. for $318,500. This unit does not have a graphics package on it, and it is ready for immediate delivery. So, yes, sir.

It does not have a graphics. That's nothing. That's nothing. It's white.

So we can do whatever we want with it. We can go to our traditional graphics, which they can do for us if we want them to, or this could be an opportunity for the veterans themed graphics that we had talked about several months ago. So, which they could also do for us. We just need to kind of figure out a design and what we want to do. So. Do you have a cost for the, just say standard graphics? I don't. He did quote the graphics package that I kind of had mocked up for the veterans at about 10 grand and 12,000. Um, but I don't know what our standard graphics package is. Like, I don't have that.

Possibly ten to twelve for the veterans back. Yes, sir.

Do we not have a bid for the. Remount I do have bits for the rebounds. I just try to keep it separate. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, there is a typo on this. It does say delivery will be January twenty, twenty seven. However, I reached back out to our sales manager again, and he is confirming that this is available for immediate delivery. It's a demo truck. It is a road rescue, and this is a box that is remountable as well. So it would be a box that we could keep around for quite some time and remount it later on up.

Does anybody have any questions about this ambulance? We've already got it.

It'll be on a Ford chassis. Ford chassis? Yes, sir.

Did you say it's a demo?

Yes, it's a demo. It's already built and ready to go. So they use it to sell their product. They basically take the train show.

Not part of any mileage.

Not part of low, low miles. Yes, sir. If any, honestly. I think it's just now coming off their line.

Is it 450, 550?

It's a 450, 4x4 diesel. Do any committee members have any questions about that?

Either way, the graphics package, have you gotten a local quote? I have not.

not got a local quote. If the veterans thing is the route we need to go to, then kind of needed to agree on a design and then you get a quote after that.

Any other questions? Okay. And then I also put out for remounts for

There you go. There'll be two bids coming around.

Both from the same vendors.

Did we receive any other bids? Not on the remounts, no, sir.

No, for the new one, did you? Yeah, we received two other bids. The rate times were pretty substantial. I figured with this one being available immediately, it would fit our needs better.

Right here in Sydney, Shelbyville, Kentucky, too. Shelbyville, Kentucky, yes, sir.

And they'll service them up there as well, too.

We were at their shop.

Every five trucks in the way, sir. So we also put out for bid for two remounted ambulances. The difference in the two prices is one of them is for $252,398 and one of them is for $249,152. The difference in the price is the size of the ambulance box. So one of them is smaller than the other so that makes up the difference in those costs there. They have a 14 to 16 month lead time. The ambulance would not need to be within that entire 14 to 16 months. It would only be once they took delivery of the chassis. Um, and then at that point, about 4 months, they said.

So, which 1 of you recommend. Both separate.

Yeah, they're 2 separate trucks.

These are replacing, uh, 2 trucks that we purchased new with, um, public money. Money from so the trucks are 5 years old.

So. Well, that was.

Glad you asked we have 461,316 dollars left from the core Mexico trucks that we can't.

461,316.

So, I think the recommendation is to buy the new ambulance 1st. Out with it is we have enough money left over from to Mexico. This is that we can go. There'd be some left over from that approximately 100,000. Graphics, but say 90,000 to 100,000 dollars. Not enough to buy either 1 of these rebates. We have to decide how to purchase or the money that. Needed to purchase these because neither 1 of these are. Of course, it's 14 to 16 months. Delivered so you probably would pay out of budget way.

But again, the need is now, so we're gonna have to wait. 14 to 16.

I did basically do we go ahead and. Proceed and get this thing in in the works or.

Are you going to use the boxes from the surplus ambulances? Those boxes cannot be remounted.

How many miles on these two that you're going to replace? Close to 200 on both of them.

Would we sell those?

The chassis, yeah, we'll sell the chassis after they replace the chassis, but the boxes would Yes or no? That would be diesel. On the old one? The old ones are diesel as well. They're both on four. One's a 450 and one's a 450 diesel.

So that leaves like $142,000 after we got a new one.

That's what I got.

Most 143. So $100,000 more to

So make sure I'm hearing you correctly.

The two that you're wanting to remount, they're the ones that are closer to 200,000 miles currently. Yes, obviously over the next year.

That's correct. I'm just trying to. That's not including the surplus because I think that question kind of got it.

So the surplus.

We're not talking about the surplus chassis. Yes. I don't know. We've done that in the past and to be honest, I don't know how much those surplus chassis usually bring them. They go to the surplus auction and I don't know how much they usually bring us. I don't think it's very much.

About 358,000, 359,000 of unbudgeted money to do the two rebounds. All right. If y'all didn't say man, it should be right.

Okay. Not in my head.

The problem is we all agree on North Hardin, man.

That's probably why we come up right. That's a good one.

Some West Hardin.

I guess, so from my standpoint, we were going from getting two from the Mexico chassis, et cetera, to only one. So ideally, we'd at least one more would be to at least maintain the fleet that we've been trying to maintain. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. And then obviously we know the better end of it is to do the new chassis because we already have the boxes equipment already wrapped. Yes, sir. Yep. The only time I guess for the people that don't know the only time we really need a new box is if it's wrecked or it's something in these boxes damaged.

And there's a there's refer built into the remount. So they'll go through the electrical system and do any replacements that may need to happen with the electrical system or the lighting. If the upholstery needs to be updated in the back, they'll take care of that. If there's issues with the flooring, cabinetry, any of that, that's all part of the remount process. They go through and refer the box as well.

Oh, What are the thoughts on buying or spending $358,000?

We're getting ready to talk about the monitors, which is nine. Just over nine, yes, sir.

I can't remember off the top of my head. Do you remember what the other remounts were running?

I'd have to go back and look. They're pretty similar to this, maybe up this.

You said you didn't get other bids on the remote.

This is the only bids I got. So, either way, we take the budget, right?

Even though it's not going to be for 1416 months. We still have that, right? Yeah, it's back there.

No. What is your thought on going with new ones and the other two remounts too, all three?

Well, I'm just, if we want that option, yes.

If we want that option, I could try to do another budget amendment. I don't know if I can get it through, but other than that, I'd have to find it somewhere else in our budget and move it. I don't know if I got that. Well, I would

I would think we would wait until after. A year, right? How long is this business? That's what I'm looking at right now.

It says the proposal is valid to June 7th of 2025. 26, I'm sorry. That's my fault. Yeah, June 7th. So it's basically. Either way, decide to do it.

and they are not delivered to next year, I still have to do a budget amendment or move that money in this current year and show it's an encumbrance going into the next year. And then it'll be part of another budget amendment to pull those funds in. It's just muddying the water, but that's what I have to do.

Do you have time this year to do this?

This is the last budget amendment? I got it right back. Everybody's doing their last part of their budget. They've got our budget. So I can guarantee that I get it back in time to get it advertised. I'll do my best, but I have to have it. I guess worst case scenario, we'd have to do another court to get it approved. But I have to have that time. From the time I get it from the Department of Local Government, after the first reading, I have to get it to where I can get it advertised in seven days for the next court. That's where I get trouble.

I wonder if we could get them to extend it until July. The bids? Yeah. I can reach out and see. And just that way she doesn't have to jump through the hoops. I agree. We come back right after. I can reach out. I'll reach out and see. What's the committee's thoughts on that? Just a question. Move forward with the one ambulance because we don't have that's already there. And then Discuss the other 2 and see if they'll extend it.

Just a confirmation on that is if we divide the 1 new ambulance Lisa, do we still need a budget amendment to do that? No, we've got the 400,000 budget. Okay. Okay. So, I say we move forward with the.

New ambulance the next.

Uh, agenda to approve and then reach out. Yes, sir. We get this extended after. Yeah, yes, sir. Yeah. Past July. Yes, and then we'll address it at the next committee August. August will be fine. Okay. Thank you all. Is this a response to an RFP?

That was curious as to what we have to do in the RF.

If they won't extend the date, you'll have to re-bid it. This will die, right? End of June, whatever. So that would, yes. We'll have to do an RF. I mean, you can put the same one out, but just change the dates. Same language. It'd be an easy push. I'd do more than that.

I'd like to do more.

Thank you. That's always good for them.

Oh, that's how it is. It came back.

Yes. Gotcha. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You can't reach out. All right. Thanks. Okay, so that's what we'll do. Then we'll just do it that way. And that brings us to the surplus. All right. So, we have 2.

Two ambulances that we haven't used in a couple years, honestly. Both the boxes on both of these ambulances cannot be remounted. We had one ambulance that was getting ready to go to the surplus auction and had a fire department reach out to us and say, hey, what about that one? We'd like to have it. So we've got two here that I would like to donate. to a couple fire departments. The first one is a 2006 International with 322,122 miles on it. This truck has not been in service for about three years. And Central Hardin Fire Department has an interest in converting this into a rehab unit. And then the other one is a 2015 Chevrolet Express with 257,100 miles on it. Sonora Fire Department has an interest in using this as a hazmat response unit. Currently their hazmat stuff is in a trailer. This would be able, they'd be able to avoid this without having to go back and hook to a trailer and pull it to the scene and all the things. They have exceeded their life with us. They cannot be remounted. They are not four-wheel drive. So we don't have any use for them and we'd like to donate them to the fire departments if possible.

That's one of the Florida trucks. Any committee members have anything to. Or surplus. I mean, concerns. Yeah, sounds good. I think it's a good idea. Move forward.

Put on the agenda, the surplus smart before. I mean, obviously good with that. But how did you, how did you all come up with the departments that needed it? Just put it out and whoever requested.

So, um. So, Nora actually reached out to us because they saw that they ended up sitting out through a formal wait for the auction. And they, they reached out to us and said, hey, what are you going to do with that truck then?

Um, same thing with central, or they knew we were looking to get rid of the international and reached out to us.

All right, that brings us up to monitors.

So, starting in January, we started field testing cardiac monitors knowing that our current cardiac monitors were going to be approaching end of life this calendar year. Currently, there are two brands of cardiac monitors out there. So we reached out to both of them and requested a field test. We got both of them. First one was by Stryker, who we're all very familiar with. They provide our power load equipment and all the other stuff. And the other company is new, semi-new to us. We have two ventilators built by Zoll. So they brought those in. We put them through the ringers. We deployed those on our ambulances, did some classroom work. simulations with them and stuff like that. Got the input from the crews. We had some forms that just say, hey, does this check certain things that are needs for us? Kind of came back, started talking to both the vendors about pricing and came up with who we think is who we know is going to be the best fit for us long term as far as cardiac monitors. And that is the Zoll cardiac monitor. It's called the Zoll Zenith. They have a couple of pricing options, which I'm getting ready to send around, along with the striker info. They do have an option to buy outright, and they also have a leasing option. And then Stryker has the same thing as well. They have a leasing option and an option to buy outright. Some things about the Zoell that we liked and some things about the Stryker. The Stryker monitor is currently inundated in the Louisville market, which is all the suburban fire departments in Louisville that run EMS. We reached out to them to get some input. A majority of those fire departments told us that if they could do it again, they wouldn't have bought the striker monitor. They were having some structural integrity issues. The handles were falling off the monitors. They have proven to be very sensitive to vibrations in the ambulance. which makes blood pressure monitoring difficult, EKG monitoring difficult, things like that. While we had the striker unit, it was during the cold snap. We were taking care of a patient with a cold-related injury using the striker monitor, and the monitor completely failed during that opportunity. It just shut down. It got too cold. It shut down. We did find a lot of inconsistencies with the blood pressure monitoring. It's much bigger than the Zoll. It's much heavier than the Zoll. The Zoll's smaller. It's more compact. There are some add-ons with the Stryker that are not listed. They have a data plan that we are required to use instead of a wireless system like we are using now. You have to purchase a data plan for each monitor to be able to transmit data to the hospital and to our patient care reporting platform. That's built in with the Zoll. They have Wi-Fi capabilities with the Zoll. Make sure. The printers, the external printers on the Stryker is an add-on. That's in the quote. So if we want to print out an EKG strip or vital signs, trends, or whatever, that's an additional fee. It's another piece of equipment to put on a monitor where it's integrated automatically into the Zoll. This is the first cardiac monitor developed by Stryker. They inherited the group physio control that makes our current cardiac monitors. So this is the first one that Stryker has developed from scratch. So that's concerning to me because they haven't worked out necessarily all their bugs with their product. Let's see, I'm trying to think of anything else. We have had experience with Zoll's maintenance plan because of our ventilators. They will come on site usually within two days and start the service process. If it's something they can't fix immediately, they usually just leave us with a temporary ventilator so we're not down that asset while it's getting repaired. Same thing will happen with the monitors. We need The monitor is something that they cannot repair on site. They will leave us with a loaner monitor so that there's no disruption in patient care. We've asked for for 15 reason for that is, is that. with the addition of the new ambulance and white males, that puts a ninth asset on the street, plus our two supervisors, that makes 11. And there have been times where we've had to provide standbys for all four high school football games, and those require AEDs and cardiac monitors. On scene, this also allows Eric and I to have a monitor in our response vehicles, which we currently do not, because carry AEDs in our response.

answer any questions no last time we we were talking about this initially when we talked about this was going to be coming up and they were talking about the training equipment I noticed it here that strikers wanting to give us roughly 18,000 apiece versus oh it's only going to give us 8,000 apiece which is about another hundred thousand dollar difference is there a way we could I know auction surplus maybe, or is are they so bad off where we can't give them to the fire departments or other entities?

There's maybe sell to 2 answers to that. There is a group that will buy this monitor higher than what those offering for tried trading. If that's an option we want to go with. I don't know what they would give us.

Um, but they do, they do buy these old monitors and that if I'm not mistaken, that group is the one that takes them and they resell them overseas.

No, this group actually is not as they, they refer them and resell. So we're here locally. Well, I mean, in the United States, I would wouldn't care a bit to put these on the fire in the fire departments hands. However, There are advanced features on these that need to be used primarily only by paramedics. Not every fire department has a paramedic. I would hate to accidentally hurt somebody with these monitors if they were misused. They do have an AED built into them, which I know is a struggle for some of the fire departments right now as far as getting AEDs. What about the city fire departments city? I mean, I can, um, I know he town has paramedics. I can't speak to Radcliffe, but I know he does have some paramedics. I mean, yeah, 1st, for whatever reason. So, I mean, there's there's 2 options. I mean, we could look at that those options. Absolutely. We were planning on keeping 1 or 2 anyway, just to have just in case God forbid that we, you know. It gets super, you know, we were going to put them on our MCI units is what we were going to do. So we had those. But we could absolutely look at different avenues to sort of recycle.

It just seems like them only giving us $8,000 a piece is basically just nothing.

Obviously they're worth at least double that. They are. And Zolt was very honest. They said, we can't give you the best price, but we know who can. And I just didn't want to muddy the waters with everything in the bid with that. So they do work with a vendor that can offer us more money than what they can.

So if you add that 96 back, it actually puts it right out on there.

Even if we did decide to go with Zoll, my personal recommendation would be to not trade these in with them, to either go the other route or find an asset nearby that could use them and could benefit our citizens, whether it is a volunteer fire department that is properly trained or something along those lines.

I agree with you 100%, sir. I think that would be a good move. Stryker still maintains these monitors, so if there was issues that came up, they could still repair them. It would be up to whoever inherits them to pay for the maintenance on the maintenance plan.

I thought they were end of life.

They'll still support them. They just won't. When I say support, they'll still work on them, but they won't. If something happens and there's a failure that kills somebody, they will not protect them. Does that make sense?

They won't back it up in court.

They won't back it up in court.

We have to submit.

Obviously, that brings up the liability question of whether or not you want to keep them.

Again, still, if we can sell them for more than $8,000. I know we can sell them. I don't know what that number is. I'm not going to act like I do, but they have told me that they work with a vendor that can sell them. The Zoll bid is good until next April. There will be no price changes on the Zoll until next April. Striker typically does a price increase in December.

Chris and Aaron, I don't know what he was talking about.

The ones we have at the jail that we purchased, they're the Strikers. It does break a whole lot easier. It's not very durable. The ones we have for our medical department, our doctors there, you know, so when we do switch, we'll probably switch over to Zoe as well. We're going to look at that as well.

Zoe currently has the contract for the military. So that says a lot about their product, the durability of the product and all that. That's what you want to look at. What was their payment plan?

So let me get the right one here.

It was 72 months at $178,144.45. What's the interest rate? I got that too, sir.

INTEREST RATE ON THE ZOLLS IS ABOUT 7.2 PERCENT. OBVIOUSLY BETWEEN THOSE TWO OPTIONS AND PURCHASING OUTRIGHT WOULD BE BETTER.

I think, if I'm not mistaken, DLG was still cheaper last time with their interest rate than our savings that we were getting, the interest that we were earning, but it was more Stryker's lease on the power load.

Does that sound about right? You mean the Keiko lease?

Yeah, the Keiko lease, sorry.

Yeah, I'd have to get a quote from them.

I personally would like to see the Keiko quote as far as leasing options through them. their lease is obviously more than our interest, and it makes no sense to do that.

It's better off just purchasing outright.

I think there was one thing to keep in mind, one of the reasons we're talking about it now.

We can talk about 3 or 4 months. Well, that and then if we do go through a lease process, our liabilities would be over the threshold. You'd have to have a hearing correct? Yes, that is correct. That is correct. We're talking about a question.

It's good.

Any other questions?

I've got a question on the front page. Striker has 15 quantity and Rowe has 14.

Yes, sir. If you flip over this whole quote, there's one more monitor in there that's got an added CO monitoring. It's just one monitor for CO carbon dioxide detecting. Um, that I can absolutely change it. We could make that just for 15 straight. So, that would be that would take the price from 61,250 to a monitor. I mean, they would add another 4 take away for granted if we did 15 of the 61,000. Obviously, it's probably in the medical aspect, but is there a benefit of having that 1 versus we. To be really honest, we monitor it from time to time, but not very often.

More like a mass casualty, fire?

Fires, inclement weather when people are, you know, with cold weather and are using kerosene and stuff like that, we see a lot of seal poisoning. It's not something we monitor every day, no.

But having one is not a bad thing?

That's why I included one just to, you know, The idea was to deploy it on one of the supervisor's vehicles that if we needed it, we could use it to monitor. Because we don't have those capabilities now.

We don't have the ability to monitor CO.

The cost of doing that's about $4,000. Yeah, so there's a $4,000 increase for one motor.

We'll have to take it up next.

The current monitors expire. We've got to the end of the year, ma'am. Yes, ma'am.

Really no later than July. Any other discussions on the monitor?

We probably don't need to bring it back here. We could just take it to finance and discuss that.

I don't need to come back here.

Once we know the options, take it to finance committee.

In between now and then, can you find out what we can get for the monitors?

Yes, sir.

Or see if there is an option or a desire to have them at any Fire volunteer.

I guess I'm concerned about the liabilities, honestly.

Yeah.

Not saying that anybody at the fire, anybody would misuse them. But if it had a failure, it would fall back on the fire departments. And I just don't think it's fair liability.

Would Dr. Bell had to be a medical director for them for them being LS there?

We have a few departments in the county that do have paramedics, but not everybody does. I would rather see the trade-in money maybe be used to help other areas, maybe the AEDs or something like that.

With the CO costs that there are in the winter, having a monitor head that see on it would definitely be a benefit.

Hi, Martin. What's up? Holiday pay. Okay. Sorry I packed you full.

So currently the employee handbook has our holiday pay is outlined that we get paid eight hours for every holiday whether you work or not. Eight hour facility, eight hour job codes get paid eight hours if they work the holiday. Twelve hour people that work 12 hours, they get paid 12 hours if they work the holiday. I've been working with Becca on to get that changed for us to be 24 hours on the holiday worked. So basically, I'm just asking to not pay folks for holidays that do not work and pay them for a full 24 hours on the holidays they do work. Budgetary, I'm paying the same amount of holiday hours whether I do it this way or not. There's been a lot of concern about um well if i work christmas i'm only and if christmas is my holiday and i want to take off the first eight hours of the day to spend it with my family there's no incentive for anybody to come in and work because they're getting paid eight hours to sit at home this would help incentivize people picking up on holidays by saying oh well if i go in and work that eight hour open spot i'm going to get eight hours of holiday money um a lot of services um i pulled Louisville, I talked to Meade County, LaRue County. I talked to Barrett Metcalfe County. They all have a different way. Some pay from midnight to midnight of the holiday to midnight of the next day, which turns out to be about 16 hours for the on-duty crews. Some don't pay any, and some pay 24 hours for the holiday's work. I just, like I said, it's a budgetary wash. I'm paying the same amount of holiday hours if I do this versus pay eight hours for every person for every holiday. The general consensus with the crews is they like the idea. There are some that don't, but the majority of them like the idea that if they're going to have to work July 4th and be away from their family, they're going to be getting paid for the entire time they're away from their family. Becca has a rough draft of that. I think her plan is to take it to resources and present it to resources.

I just want to make sure I touch base with it here before I went to resources.

So unless they work, they won't be paid for any holidays throughout the year. So how much pushback have you felt from that?

Not much, honestly. Because of the way with our rotating schedule, one year you could get six holidays, and the next year you could get four.

So your staff is pretty well-comforted.

There were some that were like, well, I take off Christmas, and I feel like this is a punishment if I take off Christmas. But a majority of them were like, if I'm going to be here, I would like to be compensated for the entire time I'm here with my family.

That would entice you from having people from taking off. They're going to get paid. They're going to work.

Yeah, because exactly. If you're going to get paid anyway, you probably wouldn't raise your hand to work 24 hours.

But the biggest thing is just getting, you know, call-ins on a holiday. Those were very, very tough for us to fill sometimes because, you know, Fourth of July, I'm going to make eight hours of holiday pay barbecuing with my family where I can go into work and make 24 hours. So, just...

The, uh, like, regular pay there would be based on their regular pay scale.

Oh, that's true. Thank you.

It's a wash. We're paying the same amount of hours. Bonnie, and I have both crushed numbers and we came up.

Is she planning to bring that up on this Monday?

As far as I know, yes, ma'am. Monday.

You sure you ain't got anything else you want to talk about? Yes, sir.

Thank you so much for your time. 9-1-1.

We're going to talk about 9-1-1 fees and MOUs. Is this the last refund for this year?

The church actually submitted their data for a refund in December, December 10th. They never paid the bill. We reached out to them. They finally paid their bill. And we're going to show you what we found.

The structure, you know, being assessed to be.

Jerry Stewart here. His house burned down in 2022. He had no idea it did. And the city tore it down. He shouldn't have been getting the bill since 2022.

And he's asked for a refund this year.

He asked for previous years since 2022. It's something that happened a few years ago. Nor the city tore it down, sir. RAN INTO THAT GUY IN THE PARKING LOT SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND HE WAS TELLING ME HE WAS COMING IN TO DO THIS FOR THAT MAN.

HE'S NOT GETTING IT. I DON'T THINK HE'S GOING TO WORRY ABOUT IT. $131 TOTAL.

YEAH. OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE REFUNDS?

THAT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. AND WE DID CORRECT HIS ADDRESS ALSO. OKAY. Second is the MOU between us, Radcliffe Police, and Flock & Company. It is currently in the hands of the County Attorney's Office being reviewed. It's time sensitive for us to get this MOU signed, so we do not lose access to the system. So, as soon as I'd like to get on the agenda for next court, and I'll reach out to you if any okays it.

This is for the Flock, you said? Yep. Do you know what a clock is? I know what it stands for, but I know what it is. I'm not even going to... Is there a... Big brother's watching you. It's a bad guy's system. So this is just between RPD, column one, and clock.

It helps find lost people, too. So do we have to do an MOU with E-Town, too? No, so he town shares their hot list with red clip, um, sheriff's office shares their hot list, right? With little Metro, everybody shares it with. The rack up gives us credentials to log into the system to see the real time alerts as they, as they pop through and we create the events and dispatch accordingly.

So. Pending Jenny's approval, this is going to be on next.

I think our next report. I think the back page, you already see that the police chief and the flotcher is already signed. So they're ready to go. We're not the owner of the account that we are trying to access.

Anybody have any questions on MOU?

There's a bunch of cameras. They don't have an account. I don't know if they have cameras in this city, but they're, I mean, between Eantime and Radcliffe, I mean, there's a lot of cameras out there.

They paid a bunch of money to put a bunch.

There's a lot out there. There's a bunch.

Are you going to get an MOU with Vine Grove?

No, everybody shares their list with Radcliffe. In which we able to see all those lists, like, we see Metro, we'll see Nelson county doesn't matter. They all share it all through rack with and they're amused. We know some rack rackless.

Yeah.

We only have a login for. The flock system itself through 1, 1, 1 agency. But then everybody else can share the list. We can catch them out a little more.

You should be looking at it. I mean, all 50 states really arrest for.

Get into their system as long as their department, like, say, St Louis allows others to view theirs and stuff like a, you know. It's across the country.

Do you have anything else? Big job, she said to take him 2 minutes, 2 minutes, 1, let's go.

So, gentlemen contract, there is 0, uh, uh. Yeah. 0 changes 0 increases. Uh, for our medical contract, uh, the last time we did the contract, um, I had signed it. Not really thinking about it. It was after, uh. Yeah, the deadline, because I want to sign it and stuff because it was automatic, but there was a, uh. Yeah, we had to have the judge sign an emergency saying, hey, you know, the jailer messed that up, you know, so, um, talking with, uh, Jenny tone with everybody. We don't have to bid this out again. Talking with Sherry Scott, Jim Roselle, and Jeremy Sylvester from the auditor's office, we don't have to bid it off. We don't want to, so there's no increase. We're perfectly on the right for that stuff, the way the contract's set up.

How much is it? Do you have that dollar?

I can send it out to you on email and stuff, that way you have it for court, but it's the same amount as it was the last three years going into it. They haven't increased it three years now on the actual main contract, main body of the contract. So, second part of that is, of course, pretty much just ask permission if that's okay, or if you'd like me to bid it out, either one. The risk of bidding it out is, is that if we bid it out, it'll go up. But that's just, you know, right now, as tight as this budget is, we don't want to sit there and, you know, have more money come down on the county. I mean, it's just the way it is. So, just thought of stuff. So, that's pretty much what it was. More of an asking session if you want to bid out or not. I can go either way, whatever y'all feel comfortable with.

You're satisfied with the current?

I am. I am. I mean, of course, you know, some of you have even utilized the contract, too, because your employees would like to go see the medical department as well and stuff for different things, like acute care type stuff. And it's worked very well for us. And now they have most of the contracts for the state. And, I mean, it's been great for us. A lot better than our last people. You know, it was, you know, we're only getting bills from 12 years ago. And I'm like, no, let's send it back to that company, you know. So the second part of that is, so we have surplus lawnmowers. We have lawnmowers that were purchased back in 2024. There are three Exmark mowers, 85, XR, gasoline mowers. The last ones we surplused, each one of them pulled like $5,800 to $7,000. So we'd like to be able to get permission to go ahead and put those on auction. They are commissary purchases, so it wouldn't be through the county to just regular auction. And they'll just refund our commissary fund for that stuff. Of course, you know, we take care of 69 properties now, or 69 properties plus a couple of government properties. So we had to get new mowers this year anyway. So it was two years back what we had to do. So we got some good mowers there out there and stuff that, you know, we'll have to go ahead and serve for us. So I don't have permission to read it. What's that?

I couldn't tell you.

There's a lot. I mean.

You said from 2004?

2024. No, no. 2004. We don't have nothing to last that long. So.

Go ahead and go ahead for this auction.

Anybody opposed to him?

Can I trade one of the ones we bought last time? No. You get what you get, Pat.

It's still a good mower. No, I'm not complaining about the mower. They work great. You don't want to service it. All right. Got anything else, John?

Nope. If my calculations are correct, it was one minute, 32 seconds.

I'm out. Can I stand up for 30 seconds to ask him a question? He's long-winded. Go ahead.

This will be a short answer. What's the status on our audits for BHH?

Uh, status on the audits says they're still finished up the audits for the next 3 years, but I haven't heard much back. So, so we hear it, you don't find out. Uh, we'll see what happens. Well, oh, we'll get some more money. Hopefully, you know, like I said, but if not, I mean, like I said, we got 101,000 dollars already plus that 54,000. So that's. Pretty good as money we would have had to begin with and already is that we'll start chipping away at our, uh. Next year stuff that works out pretty good. So less money going next years.

Just to recap, so I got everything correct. We're going to put the ambulance for 318,500 on the agenda. It's already been budgeted. We're going to surplus two ambulances, one to Sonora and one to Central Hardin. We're going to hold for now until July. Mark's going to ask for an extension or he's going to have to do another.

Lisa says I can ask for an extension.

Um, for the 2 ambulances, we'll address that July budget me. That gets all for you other than Lisa is going to check with. On the financing and Mark is going to find out how much we get the monitor. Yes, sir. All right. What's your meeting Fred Tuesday? And then, uh, 9, 1, 1, and Jenny's approval will put the on the agenda. and $131.16 worth of refunds. And for the jail, we'll put the jail medical contract and surplus two molars.

Great.

All right. With that, we will adjourn at 424.