About this meeting
- Government Body
- Tech Committee
- Meeting Type
- Tech Committee
- Location
- Hancock County, IN
- Meeting Date
- May 14, 2026
Transcript
206 sections
May 14th, 2026 Technical Committee agenda or meeting. We'll begin with roll call.
I'll take a motion to accept the previous meeting's amendments if no one has any changes to them.
I move to approve the minutes. Second.
I have a motion and a second. Those in favor respond aye.
Aye.
Those against the same. Our first item on the agenda today is Advia Estates. This is at 4500 North County Mill Drive, Greenfield, Plat 26-2676.
to give a little background on why this is back here again today. I'll take responsibility for this one. I did not think I had to check block length for a 22 lot subdivision, but these are big lots. So as it turns out, we had some extra long blocks. So Mike has gone back and at the request of the plan commission and revised this flat to solidify the location of the stub streets and make sure that none of the blocks are longer than, was it 1,200?
1,200 is the maximum length of the block. Good morning. First of all, I'd like to introduce my son, Carson Gibson. He's the youngest of six, just graduated from Indiana Wesleyan, and he's come on board to the company and hopefully quicker than later, he'll be able to do what I do.
So, well, congratulations, Mr. Gibson. I hope you enjoyed it. Look forward to you contributing to the community.
So, um, as Kayla mentioned, we've been in front of Gary and, and the planning after planning commission, there was a thought of not wanting a stub street to the North to service the farm. So we've removed that. There was also a, uh, Some comments regarding a gate for the last five lots on the cul-de-sac, we've removed that. In essence, we've also extended Country Mill Drive to the south with a T intersection to actually go west. That would allow maybe an emergency access easement from the two lots that we created along State Road 9. So that is a win for everybody. We've also strategically put a Stub Street to the south outside of the Woods line. That goes between lots 8 and 9, so there's no disturbance of woods. So I think this is a better plan. Also, on the advisement of... Gary is that we put some curve in the road, maybe not as much as we like, but it works out better to slow traffic down a little bit. And we can even go a little further and discuss that as a secondary comes around. But that's where we're at.
Purdue has no comments. Planning has no comments.
Minus thing, so still got to get drainage board approval for that drain to the south to move that. Yep. Give me whatever you want on that. And still, as you work into that secondary, make sure you look at that off-site drainage coming from the north. I think there's a lot more water coming through there than people think. So, okay. Take a look at it.
Okay, minor stuff. Most of this will be picked up in the secondary. The proposed storm inlet, check that out. Stub Street. Just make sure a lot of its storm stuff just make sure it's good to go a lot of this will pick up in the secondary Crosswalks location make sure we get that in the secondary and also clean up the soil borings on the primary plat Health Department we need soils on lot three Lots four five six and nine and twelve it looks like that
I think as you've changed, everything's skewed and some of them are in right away. Some of the soils are in spots.
You know, they can be in the right away. I'm not going to put the septic there.
No septic in the right away, please. I don't want my guys to find that. I don't want my guys to find that when they're digging.
It'd be hard pipe underneath the road. We got you. Yeah, we're just kind of in a little bit of haste to get that plan done back.
And then 13, I can't see where there's a drain on it. Okay. The one on the end, I can't see where there's a drain.
And some of those lot lines may change just to even some lots up. We had the right of way between maybe 12 and 13 going north. Those are big lots. They're probably going to be, we're not going to add lots, although we could, but we're just going to make them more even, I guess.
I have no comments.
I'm the firefighter mutual aid representative for today. Greenfield Fire Territory Fire Marshal Steve Kropacic sent a few notes. There's no specs or anything on a dry hydrant that had been discussed, so he's wanting to make sure we do that. Minimum road width where the dry hydrant area would be needs to be a little wider, about 26 feet. I think he's got down that the normal minimum road width is 20 is fine, but wherever that dry hydrant is going to be, we need a place to pull over to. allow traffic.
We have, on all of our streets, they're going to be 26 foot from back of curb to back of curb.
Good. Okay. And then at the cul-de-sac, he was looking for a minimum outside turning circle of 96 feet. He attached a turning radius guide for their largest truck. Okay. So if we can get some confirmation that that works in that cul-de-sac. Yep.
That's all he had.
And his contact information is there if you've got more questions.
Yeah, we... Prior to submitting the prime of the plant, we met with Steve and, you know, they were okay with the 22 lots. Yeah. And you may let him know that that access easement, emergency access, may or may not go in. We're not required to put it in, but cash wallets there and availability probably should. So we're working with the developer for those lots to make sure it's in the right place. Okay.
Move that we approve based upon completed comments from surveyor, highway, health, and mutual aid.
Second. I have a motion and a second. Those in favor respond aye. Aye. Those against the same, thank you. Next item, Micah Beckwell. This is agricultural... Pickle. Pickle?
Pickle.
Pickle. I apologize. Minor subdivision plat 26-2683. That's why we say the numbers.
That would be you.
I do not.
You good? Yeah. Did I give them both?
Okay. Purdue has no comments.
Planning just has a couple. The north property line, if we could just clarify the measurements. It's not totally clear that the 203 feet is a tie to the secondary septic easement and that that 485 number is actually the depth of the lot. And then correct the statement above the surveyor's seal that refers to two lots where it should say one.
We've already taken care of those. Thanks for getting those in time. That's awesome. Thank you.
Most of mine are just little things, so a couple of them on the corners. You can look at those. The call there on that north line, you might want to put some arrows or something for the line there because you read across it. The easement is going to need to be recorded. It goes through that way. I'll need a copy of that before I sign off on the plat, along with either the pipe installed and inspected or bonded before recording.
Secondary soils. Need to be on the right side of the property line. Better than being in the right-of-way road.
I have no comments.
I have no comments. I move that we approve based upon completed comments from planning, surveyor, and health. Second.
I have a motion and a second. Those in favor respond aye.
Aye. Thank you.
Oh, we got a friend of the family here. The next one is for a primary plat, 26-2685, rural residential, Mr. Hollis. Joe, good seeing you.
There's comments up here, Joe, if you want to grab them.
He knows the drill. Well, maybe it has been a few years.
How's calculus going? I'm done?
Oh, yeah? You passed? Wrong folder. Excellent. Here we are.
That doesn't sound fun. You got one more over here, Joe. Being done sounds good.
No, Mr. Hollis should be commended. He's going to get his license surveyor. Wow. So you're never too old to get even better at your job, and Joe's pretty good at his job, so that's good.
Hopefully.
Hopefully.
Yeah. Okay. Thanks for allowing me to come up here. All right.
Purdue has no comments.
Okay. Planning has a few. We need to, and I think this might be mirrored by some of the other departments too, need to ensure that the straight section of the drive off of 40 is long enough to handle turning radius of a longer vehicle. Practically speaking, like a delivery vehicle, a truck pulling a trailer, Fire truck is the big concern, obviously. So that, be able to get all the way out of US 40 traffic and then be able to maneuver that right or left turn without damaging the culvert or lot one's driveway or lawn. Let's see. Remove the word remainder from lot three. Label the adjoining owners. And one thing that was missing that we just need to have as part of the submittal is the feasibility report, just stating why we're using septics instead of sanitary sewer and all that stuff. And what about the required components of the other components that are in that same category too? I had concerns about some of the survey requirements that I'll pass on. So that was mainly it.
From my standpoint, being a three-lot major, I'm not as concerned about, especially with the lay of the land and things that are there for the drainage report or the erosion control, those will all get taken care of. Because I imagine those are going to be put in individual lots as you sell those off, not all at one time, correct?
Correct.
Yeah, so I'm okay with all those from that standpoint. There's some things on the actual, the legal and the plat that need to match, that don't match. The pipe that you run underneath the driveway, that 8-inch pipe, make sure you reinforce that under that driveway. So if you're going to run whatever 8-inch you're going to run, SDR or whatever you're going to run, make sure it's reinforced because then those concrete trucks go back there to do that last lot. I don't want them to crush it and neither do you from there. tile needs to be installed or bonded uh prior to recording and then the last question i had since you own the property to the north and to the to the east of this um there are some calls on there that leaves opportunities for gaps and overlaps so it might be better if you guys kind of just get together when you put this together so that there's no ambiguity between the two you have an opportunity to do that i mean if you can agree with yourself i think you could figure it out but If you can't, you know. Yep.
I saw kind of an archaic road plan with a 70-foot right-of-way that's in there. I'd probably like, Mike, look with that and see if we can get that dedicated so it's clean. Oh, is Phillip doing this one?
Yep, Phillip's doing this one.
Okay. So, all right, never mind then. So we'll talk to Phillip. Where's Phillip?
Phillip had a meeting, so.
Let Phillip know. If we get the dedication put in there, it's already right-of-way, I think, but let's get it cleaned up so when it's searched in the future. Then for me, I'll just need to email from NDOT saying they're okay with the driveway. If they're okay with it, I am.
Yes, I did get a permit.
Just send that to me.
They were in favor. They prefer the single driveway.
No, no, no. I agree with that. I just need that. I just need that and I need a dedication. That's all I need.
The health department, the soils and the primary and secondary need to match where the soils are.
I hadn't ordered it yet. I wanted to make sure. I didn't have to move things around prior to, but if... Pretty much I'm good where the layout is. I'll go ahead and order those.
Yeah, the soils are fine. It just needs to be, the boxes need to be where the soils are.
No comment.
Fire department side of things, we just want to reiterate the turning radius to get a fire engine back all the way to the back. We've got several sharp turns. I don't know what the width is, but that'll be something that we need to make sure we can navigate. And then just dawned on me here, and it's early, we'll need something that says, I'm assuming these will all be U.S. 40 addresses. We'll want something at that entrance that says there's three houses down this driveway because as it grows in, we won't be able to see that from the road. So we just want to make sure there's some kind of street signage that says, hey, there's three addresses back here.
Hollisville. Hollisville.
With three mailboxes.
With three mailboxes.
The town of Joe. Two in the morning, I want to be straight where I'm driving. And you want us to know where it is, too. Yes. So those are the two things we have.
What was the turn radius on yours?
I can give you the one I have from Greenfield. Actually, I'll have to make a copy of it. I can get it to you. I'll catch you after the meeting.
I mean, it's no longer than a tractor trailer.
You probably have it in your CAD. Are you still running CAD? Those turning templates are in AutoCAD. You should be able to pull them out.
Well, that's how I actually laid out the drives before.
Just make sure you're using the LARD. Their trucks get bigger every year, I swear.
Charlottesville's truck's not very big, though.
Maybe not what it's very long. Their latest pumper's pretty long. It's not a ladder truck, but it's pretty long.
You can't overcharge the fire department for a truck if it's small.
Easy enough.
A move that we base. Do you have something else?
I do have one just quick thing to add. I'm concerned about this going to the plan commission before any changes that need to occur that might change the size of the lots, like a right-of-way dedication. I want to make sure that we've got that happening before this and shown on the primary. before this goes to the plan commission. Okay.
Make that change fast enough?
Yeah. Okay. So if I don't have it by next week, then it's not going to go to the plan commission. My recommendation would be to continue at that point.
That's fine.
Is that all right with everybody?
Just add that to the movement.
Okay.
In the comments, and if the right-of-way is not added by that time, we'll continue it to the following meeting.
Now, can I email the PDFs direct to you so you can review? Sure.
And then we'll need the appropriate number of hard copies for Dawn. She can help you with that for plan commission.
Yeah.
Okay. All right.
I'll let you make the motion because you made the answer one.
I move we approve this with the comments of... Planning surveyor highway health and mutual aid with the condition that right-of-way As requested be shown rededication be shown on the plat prior to it going to the plan Commission for primary plat approval second All in favor? Aye.
Oh, she's taking over. She's just walking right through there.
I've been trying to get out of this gig. Hey, there's a gavel. Elections, elections.
All those in favor respond aye.
Aye. All those against the same.
Next, East 70 Logistics. Have a great day, Joe. East 70 Logistics, Phase 3, American Structure Point, Industrial Light. This is Secondary Plat 26-2687.
There's two of them here.
Hey, Megan. How you doing?
Oops. Got any? I do.
I just have to.
Sir? Mm-hmm.
Hold on. I will find them.
I think we're all going to put that one down as that one.
It's for Joe.
I've got one set up.
Which one? Sorry.
There it is. Okay. That one to you.
Does this have both of them?
Yes. Yeah, that has both sets.
I can give her both.
Plat and ILP.
Yeah, here, I'll give you both of mine. Here's both of mine. Plat and ILP. Do you have one for both of these and the next one? They're both the same thing, but one's the plat, one's the plan. No, just one for both. Okay. Anybody else? Oh, sorry. I wasn't sure what it was.
Do you have this?
I mean, I'll give one to you. No, that's good.
I'm just making sure.
Yes.
Well, just sit in my file, but I know you actually use it.
Yes. Purdue.
Purdue has no comments. Planning has comments. Are we doing both at the same time? Are we starting with the plat? We're doing both. Okay. So starting with the plat, I had a few comments. And just to give everybody kind of a lay of the land, because I had to get myself used to this, this is an industrial major subdivision. SO MOST OF YOU WERE PROBABLY HERE AT THE TIME. I WAS NOT. WHEN THE FIRST FINAL PLAT WAS RECORDED, THIS WAS RECORDED AS BLOCK A. SO THIS HAS BEEN RECORDED BEFORE AS A BLOCK. NOW WE HAVE THAT FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WHERE WE'RE SEPARATING IT OFF INTO A TRUE LOT, ESSENTIALLY, with the right-of-way dedication and everything else, the final form is coming through. So that is part of our subdivision control ordinance, and that's what we're pulling back to as far as that code reference goes. So my comments. I defer to the auditor on the plat title. There should be some reference to, amendment to the existing plat of phase two block A. Hancock County should go on line three along with the Buck Creek Township information. But like I said, I'll defer to Heather on how you want to see that title read.
I didn't know that it needed to reference because I know that it's a block and we're turning it into a lot. I just assumed that we were making it a new phase. But that's how I interpreted it. But if you want it referenced, that's fine.
I'd like it to be so that it ties back to that previously recorded flat somehow. But like I said, beyond that, it's up to you just for organization. Can we include some documentation of the 30-foot regulated drain? I defer to the county surveyor on that. Double check the adjoiner information because it looks a little old. Update the Board of Commissioner names and include a lot table that shows the parcel area minus all lots, blocks, and right-of-way dedicated. On to the ILP. Okay. What is the estimated project cost? Did you get me that information?
Roughly $50 million.
Okay. I just need that for our building permit application. Let's see. Provide bike racks for 12 racks. I see bike racks mentioned in the keynotes as number 23, and I see a 22 and a 24 shown on the C200 sheets, but I can't find C23 anywhere, so it might be me. But let's see. Lights need to be reduced to 3,500 degrees Kelvin or temperature Kelvin. I'm not a flight person, but max. And then the building material, I just wanted to verify this is concrete panels, right?
Concrete panels, similar to the rest of the park.
Okay, thank you. That's it.
All right, for mine, Kayla kind of hit the things that I had for the legal. The commissioner's block in there is incorrect. It's a couple years old. You might want to change that. That's in there. This went before drainage board, the last meeting. It was tabled to the next meeting. Until we have the final plans that is my question is the plans that we have now are these indicative of everything now from what we've got from Aqua and everything of where things are going to be or is this is it still going to things still going to move around?
We have made the update, but I don't think we've sent it to you yet Okay, and then I wanted to verify Eric said that the drainage board had requested a 50-foot They would like to have a 50-foot easement.
Yes, and you can use that as still as part of the setback and
Yeah.
In that part, but they would prefer a 50-foot easement, correct?
Okay. We'll get those over to you.
Okay. And so it's under, we will start it under drainage review. I just want to make sure that I know you've given us the drainage report and stuff and sent off to carry. So that process has started. So just know that we're in there. And I want everybody here to know that some of the things may move a little bit compared to what you actually see on the plans because of the Aqua Indiana line that's coming up north through there on the side of 700 West. So things may not be exactly as you see them now. Yep, that's all I have.
Chad already mentioned the commissioner's block. Check the second driveway pavement. Make sure that it meets the NDOT requirements for that. Move the proposed guard shack just so I have a little more storage. Slide it to the east. You have a few more, like even 60 feet will matter. Get it as far east as you can so that any trucks coming off in case there's a queue, they don't queue onto the main road. That should be about 50 feet. Every little bit helps there. We have problems with people queuing out sometimes. So just take your guard shack, and if you can, slide it as far, hopefully 50 feet to the east. That'll give you another truck storage in there. Mill the ends and resurface 700 West with two inches of SMA. We're requiring that for all our developments. It'll come up. So make sure that that is as part of the development plans, that the 700 West gets two inches of SMA. From property line to property line, yeah. Just your property line, not outside of it. Also on top of that, you'll have thermoplastic striping. Your roadway guys should have no problem figuring out how to get that done. And two-inch stone edging. So you're basically just going to do an overlay, re-stripe, and stone edge. Whenever you're doing your asphalt. You can do it when you're doing your asphalt operation on your main parking lot. We will require SMA, though. It's the only thing that holds up to the trucks. That's all I have.
Health Department has nothing. Thank you.
I gave you the current commissioners and the proper spellings and all that. If you email me after, I will research how we've handled the titling of changing a block to a lot in the past so that we have consistency.
Okay.
Since we added or did them all at the same time, I do have a couple comments. I noticed on the fire protection line that's going around the building, it's an 8-inch. I'm going to ask if we can have a 10-inch. Good. That's kind of what I was leaning towards. And then I didn't find the FDC or the PIV locations. I'm sure that's coming, but I couldn't find them on my map. So if we can find those or coordinate that with me later on.
I can double check if we have those on there. We don't have the MEP finalized yet, so he may have left it out.
I figured it was early, but I want to get it in there that we'd like to help figure out where the best place for that is for us. Yep. So that's all we have?
Question I have for you is when we do this, do these have to be in two separate motions because they're two separate things? Because does the first one have to go before somebody before the second one does?
The plat has to be recorded before we'll consider the permit application.
So it would probably be good to have two separate motions.
I just wanted to point out just for the record and anybody watching on YouTube that this project does extend Enterprise Drive through to 700 West. In case you're concerned about how that inner Intersects with the existing houses it is south of that row of houses So no drive no driveway light shining or anything Megan was kind enough to send me a diagram showing where that next driveway up is But yeah, this will extend Enterprise Drive all the way through should help relieve some of that truck traffic back over to Mount Comfort And they're generous enough to even overlay it again That's it
I move that we approve the first part there for the secondary plat for E70 logistics based upon completed comments from planning, surveyor, highway, auditor. Second.
I have a motion to second. Those in favor respond aye. Aye. Those against the same. So moved.
I move that we approve the ILP review for E70 Logistics Phase 3 based upon the completed comments from Planning, Surveyor, Highway, and Mutuate.
Second.
I have a motion and a second. Those in favor respond aye. Aye. Those against the same. Thank you. Any old business? No, we have one more.
One more. What? One more.
Oh, the page. Backside. Zion Estates.
This is where Mike's going to let his son come up and do it.
Number 26 says 2689 in Sugar Creek Township.
A replay.
This is an easy one.
This is easy.
This is actually an easy one. Do you have anything on this one?
I got nothing. I know.
This was in the air when they originally put it in.
We've technically already fixed this.
Who shifts away from a high five all the way down? This is a unique replat. Basically, it could have been done as a Scrivener's air, maybe. But the parcel that we're seeing now, lot 16, and the inclusion of a part of lot 13, That lot line that is now shown was part of the primary plot for Zion Estates, and that's where the secondary should have shown it. But instead, it was at the rear of lot 16. So they go to cell lot 13 and find out the acreage doesn't match, and cell 16 is like... So somehow between the primary and secondary, that lot moves. We couldn't find out. I mean, it was just... This will clean it up. It's Harold's fault. I'll just let him move. I love it.
You're being recorded. Harold, it's your brother. We did.
We went back and forth with the files and going, just why would it move? There was no communication. There was an error. It's okay.
Yeah.
So anyway, thank God that the owners around are of lot 13 and 16 are, yeah.
Are okay with each other.
Are okay. So anyway, that's what we're at.
Purdue has no comments. Planning has just a few. The title, if it's, so if lot 13 is participating in the replat, including it, if it's not, can we call it a replat of lot 16 and part of lot 13 in Zion Estates just to make it clean and make sure we're clear on who's concerned or who was concerned?
But they are participating, right? Well, lot 13 is not participating in this. In the replat. Okay. The parcel, the square parcel that you see on the plat has already been deeded to lot 16. So technically it is a part of lot 13, but lot 13 is not signing this replat.
Because they've already signed it. But it is part of lot 13, I think.
It is part of lot 13, but not ownership of lot 13. That part is not ownership of lot 13.
I don't want to cause you extra work.
We just want to get it done. It's trying to appease ownership at this point.
Either one is fine.
That's a good point. We can put lot 13. It is technically part of lot 13. It is. It's not an ownership document.
And then the lots that are in, well, I guess I'll keep going in order. The size of that drainage and lake maintenance easement, does it connect to the variable drainage and utility easement? Please include any available instrument numbers for those easements just so we're clear where those easements begin and end.
Yep.
Let's see. Rename lot 1616A. And if 13 is included, call it 13A, the new, so it's clear that we have a new 16A, 13A. If, like I said, if 13 is included.
I think I'm okay with doing 16A. I don't know that I'm comfortable with 13A.
I'm fine with that.
Okay.
And make the outline for 16A heavier so it's not dependent on a color printer. Okay. Remove the references to the plat committee since this isn't going to plat committee. I sat on here just to include planning director's signature, but I can defer to Dawn on how she wants to see that signature block on that secondary plat. Okay. But it won't have the Platte committee information.
That's it. Yep. I have a motion and a second.
Those in favor respond aye. Aye. Those against the same. Did I miss any other ones? Online permit portal progress.
John Milburn has been working diligently to get our access to, through the Civic Plus program and the, I should probably just, sorry, Chad. No, you're fine. You want to give that update?
Nope, you go ahead.
Okay. He's been trying to get all of the GIS stuff aligned so that new parcel changes show up more quickly in the Civic Plus system. That is where we are at right now. And then we are going to have to retrain on this.
By the next century, perhaps.
Yes.
We won't be doing this. By the next century.
Maybe before we all die. Maybe. If we're lucky. If we're retired. No one retires. No one gets out alive. Any other old business?
That's how they're telling me. Oh, no. It was in the fine print.
Other goodies as assigned.
Anybody else have anything else? All right, I'll make a motion to adjourn the meeting.
Second.
I have a motion to second. Those in favor respond aye.
Aye.
Those against the same. Everybody have a great day. It's beautiful out there.
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