County Commissioners - Regular Meeting

got everybody in. You got everybody in about four or five minutes late. So, we're Okay. Okay. Okay. We'll wait. Go ahead and get Good morning everyone. I'd like to call this meeting of the Hancock County Board of Commissioners to order. Today is May 5th, 2020. Yeah. Dang. May 4th.

May 4th, 2026. Okay. This meeting is being recorded and streamed for public viewing. By participating, you acknowledge your image, voice, and comments may be captured and made publicly available. This meeting has been properly noticed in accordance with Indiana code 5-14-1.5. Let the record show that a quorum of commissioners are present and the commissioners are open for business. We will proceed with the agenda. At this time, I invite everybody to stand with us and recite the pledge, please. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Uh, can I get a motion for the minutes? I make a motion that we approve the minutes from uh it's 421 420 421 I don't have my agenda here I don't either 2026 second motion on the floor and a second any further discussion motion approved so now we have a proclamation to give and we we do have a proclamation to give to the Mount Vernon basketball team we're waiting for coach coach. Waiting on one coach. Yep. Okay.

All right. Commissioner Gray, you want to go ahead and

Absolutely. My name is Janine Gray and I am uh the commissioner for district 1 which includes Mount Vernon High School and we're so happy to have you here today. Mount Vernon High School basketball rode to the 2026 championship. The Mount Vernon Marauders completed a historic 202526 season by winning the IHSAA Class 4A boys basketball state championship. The first boys basketball state title in school history. Mount Vernon finished the season with an outstanding 28-3 record establishing themelves as one of the top teams for Indiana. The team was led by senior guard Luke Erle who averaged strong all-around numbers and was later named Indiana Mr. Basketball. During the state tournament, Mount Vernon showed consistency and depth, defeated Decar Central High School 6646, beat New Albany High School 7769, and advanced through the regionals and semi-state matchups, including a key revenge win in an earlier overtime game. These wins demonstrated the team's ability to control games offensively while tightening the defense in high pressure moments. the state championship game and the title game at Gamebridge Fieldhouse. Mount Vernon defeated Crown Point High School 52 to 50 in a dramatic comeback. The Marauders overcame a 10-point

halftime deficit. Earlle led the team with 26 points, 10 rebounds, and six assists. Key late free throwers by Brady uh throws by Brady Weber sealed the victory. Therefore, this is a proclamation of the Hancock County Board of Commissioners honoring the Mount Vernon High School boys basketball team for winning the 2026 IHSAA class 4A state championship and recognizing Luke Erle as 2026 Indiana Mr. Basketball. And the proclamation reads as, "Whereas the Mount Vernon High School boys basketball team achieved an extraordinary season cultivating in winning the 2026 Indiana High School Athletic Association Class 4A State Championship on March 28th, 2026. And whereas the team secured the championship title with a thrilling 52-50 victory over Crown Point High School, demonstrating exceptional skill, determination, teamwork, and sportsmanship. And whereas the players, Coach Joe Bradburn and support staff of Mount Vernon High School boys basketball team have brought great pride and honor to Hancock County through their dedication, perseverance, and commitment to excellence. And whereas this championship reflects not only athletic achievement, but also the strong character, discipline, and community spirit fostered within Mount Vernon High School and throughout Hancock County. And whereas team member Luke Erle has been recognized as a 2026 Indiana Mr. Basketball, one of the highest individual honors in the state, exemplifying outstanding athletic performance, leadership, and integrity both on and off the court.

Now therefore, be it pro proclaimed by the Hancock County Board of Commissioners that the Mount Vernon High School boys basketball team is hereby congratulated and commended for winning the 2026 IHSAA Class A 4A state championship. And the team's players, coaches, and staff are recognized and applauded for their hard work and dedication and outstanding representation of Hancock County. and Luke Erle is specially recognized and congratulated for being named the 2026 Indiana Mr. Basketball. And the citizens of Hancock County are encouraged to join in celebrating these remarkable achievements and the pride they bring to the community. In witness thereof, the Hancock County Board of Commissioners has here unto set its hand to this fourth day of May, 2026. And that is signed and attested. So congratulations proceed.

Coach, do you want to come up and speak to any have anything to say?

Sure. Um, first of all, I want to thank you for this honor having us over here today. Pretty awesome. Anytime we get a chance to hang out with these guys a little bit more, it's been great. Uh, it's been a dream year all the way around. Practices were great all year long. Um, so just even having a bus trip over here today was was a lot of fun with these guys. Um, it's hard to believe that we were at the mountain top. We are at the mountain top of high school basketball. And if you really think of if it's just basketball in other states and it's Indiana, then we're at the top in the world. So, it's a just amazing feat and you know, I just appreciate hanging out with these guys like I said. So, thank you very much. Thank you.

I'll come up front. We're gonna hand this off to coach and we'll all have our pictures taken and what what I'm not I'm not on the board of commission. I said you better. Let's go over here and talk. I don't know which way they're going to take I want to watch

down there. big one down there.

Purdue at the same number. Yeah.

Get the team just coaches. We need to cut commission out.

All right. Thank you guys. Thanks for letting me enjoy basketball guys.

Sorry, we have to send you back to school, guys. Thanks a lot. Appreciate it so much.

Congratulations. Congratulations. on to something not nearly as exciting as that. What are you talking about? This is drainage. Oh, the most exciting thing that goes on in the county. Can I get a motion to recess? Uh motion to recess the commissioner's meeting. Motion on the floor and a second recess for the drainage board meeting. All in favor say I. I. I. Motion carries. Okay. I'll call the May 4th drainage board meeting your mic down please. to order. How's that? Perfect.

Uh, first things approve drainage board meeting minutes from last meeting. Move to approve the April drainage board minutes. Second. Been moved and seconded we approve the April drainage board minutes. All those in favor say I. I. I. Motion passes. Uh, you're ready. You want to talk about claims?

Um, well, we have some people here. Let's let's let's hold off on claims. Let's uh let's jump down to number four. Um AF Jones. So we are at uh just north of 900 North and uh 400 East. AF Jones is a regulated drain uh that runs pile drain uh that runs down through. Uh, Miss Jody Stevens is here um to uh request uh she would like to put um a gate on each end of her property. Uh she wants to put horses uh back in here in the field. And so she's uh coming to request to put a gate um at the corners of her property right here as you can see on the map that we have there. Uh so this would be a really it's a gate crossing. Uh usually we for a crossing we usually have a uh uh she be open for people uh for her to open uh to get into the field the pasture that she wants to put her horses in.

She wants to put a fence up or a gate at each side. Well, she's going to put a a fence all the way around in her property where horses are going to be. She wants to put a gate at both ends. We had a conversation about this in case we need to work on the tile. Okay. So that way instead of it being a fence there, there'll be a gate there that we can open it and then we can actually work on the tile so we don't have to take out any of the fence. Okay. So to me it it made a lot more sense than trying to put a fence up and then worrying about taking the fence down and and being in a problem. So putting uh putting a gate at each end so that way uh if we needed to work on the tile in those two locations uh it would be able to handle that. So just don't put the post in a tile. What's that? Just don't put the post in the tile.

Don't put Yes. Absolutely. Put the post far enough out of the tile. Absolutely. Yes. I move that we approve the gate crossing for the F. Jones regulated ditch. Second. I move seconded. Do we approve the Jo the crossing of the Jones with uh gates for Jody Stevens? All those in favor say I. I. Opposed. Motion passes.

All right. So, let's move along to number seven. Uh, we have the Williamson ditch, which is uh just north of 200 South Weber Road. So, gardeners are here. They have a 200 South and where 200 South between 9 and Franklin Road and Okay. Is that's not an account. Who needs three fools? Okay. Okay. Who needs three fools? That was Caner City.

No, that's the shots that we took. I know. Uh that we have that are there. So, the Williamson ditch is an 8 inch tile um that runs it's an arm of the Williamson ditch that runs over is a uh runs through the backyards. It actually splits the Boom Gardener property uh for where they're at. Uh it is only an 8 inch tile, has a 75 foot easement on it. Um they are, as you can see, they would like to increase the size around their pool to put a deck on it uh to put a concrete I don't know if it's going to be concrete. It's probably just a wood deck. A wood deck.

Just a wood deck that goes around it. Uh for where it's at, it'll be 70 65 ft from the uh the tile is currently 65 ft from the pool. The deck would be uh 57 ft from the tile. So, we have plenty of room to work on an 8 in tile in the back there. I'd be more concerned about the barn that's right next to it then. Well, that's I understand that, but that's that's already already there and and been there for a while. So, so, uh, Steve, county old harmless. We need that structure. Is it a deck? It's a deck that connects to the pool. I imagine it's going to have you have palings in the ground. Or is it just going to be a removable deck?

Because we had one that went around because we took it out this weekend. It was two foot that went around the edge of the pool, right? And I could take it down. Okay. So, and of no one, but it was not into the ground. Maybe settled an inch or two, but that they're not putting post in the ground for this one. Not that I'm aware of. Okay. It'll be removable then. I mean, I'm just thinking excavator swing or something if we had a big deal. But you're not going to be that close. It's going to be where we use a mini anyway. We're 57 feet away. If we hit that with a mini excavator, we have the wrong person doing the job. Okay, that's quite a bit. Yeah.

Mhm. I move that we approve. And the other side of that, too, is there that comes with a it would be an 8 and 1/2t um encroachment. So, there would be a $212 fee. So, that's up to you whether you want to include that or wave that from that far away. So, I move that we approve the Wilson Williamson regulated drain encroachment with a standard county fee and the county holdless. Second

been moved and second that we approve the encroachment on the Williamson regulated drain at 774 West River Road including the standard fees and hold. All those in favor say I. I. Opposed. Motion passes. All right. So, let's All right. So, let's let's start at the top then and work our way back down. Let's work through our claims. So, as you can see, doing a lot more work right now. Farmers are in the fields

um and uh working back through different things. Fuller, Jackson, Dick, Dorman, Noalis, Kirkoff, Snider and King, Sansbury and Schultz, O'Hare. So make a motion we approve the claims paid for question um on Elair. Yep. Why do we need more money to level spoil piles? Wasn't that done in the in the original bid? No. When when they when they dredge a ditch, we pay them for the time material that they do. So, when they go in to do it, we pay them to to dredge it for where it's at. Then they come back to level the spoils, then we pay them for the time for them to level the spoil.

So, it's not it's not a bid above and beyond. No, it's not a bid. Thank you. It's time. Make a motion to approve claims paid for 422 2026 and 56 2026 as presented. Second. That's 48 2026 and 422 2026. That's Wednesday. What do I have here? That's the ones presented are 422 and 56. Okay. Yeah. And I have 48 and 422. So

you got you got last month's book. Oh, she's looking at the encumbrance when it was Oh, she's looking at encumbrances. Yeah. You were Look at number three. No, no, no. Right here. 48 2026 drainage board. Oh, that's at the top. Look at the top. At the top. Date up here. The dates are at the top. It looks I do. I don't want to serve on this board anymore. Okay. Where we at? We got a motion in a second. Motion and a second to approve the drainage claims for 422 and 56. All those in favor say I. I. Oppose. Motion passes.

Hallelujah. Excuse me. Um, now we have a two encumbrances. Uh, number three there, uh, one for the Fuller and one for the O'Hare. Finish that up. We approve the confumbances for the Fuller and O'Hare as presented. Second. Been moved and seconded that we approve the encumbrances presented for the James Fuller and Daniel O'Hare. All those in favor say I. I. Opposed. Motion passes.

All right, we'll just move down the list. Um, number five on your list, uh, Dish Culp minor subdivision. This is 700 West on the screen there. 700 West just north of 500 North. Um it is uh this property here uh that goes right up against the Meadows which is a McCordsville subdivision. Um they are they are looking to divide this into uh a two lot minor subdivision. The one house is already there. A second lot they would like to put on the back side. Uh there is currently uh right here, if you see on the screen, there is currently a 6-in tile that is coming through here and connecting into the outlet uh into the subdivision to the north. And they would like to be able to use that 6-in tile for this second lot. Uh the ordinance says they should they need to have an 8 in tile, but uh there's a currently a 6-in tile that is there, and it's only accessing this lot for where it's at. They're asking for a variance to use that 6-in tile uh for that lot.

Have you looked at it? Yep. How old is it? Uh it's clay. And it's open. It's open right now. I mean, now we had we had to look at it. We had to we had to have open it up. Yes. And it outlets into So it it goes to the north. Yes. Manhole. So that's not very far. No. No. No. It's only what? 100 ft. Yeah. For where it's at. Well, if it's got a good outlet after that, I got no Yeah. Play kick the can. I mean, if something goes wrong, it's up to them. Yep.

They have an outlet for it to go into. So it it and that also has a $250 fee. I move we approve the variance of the 6-in tile for Dish Colt minor sub with the standard county fee. Second. Moved and seconded that we approve the variance to use 6-in tile for the Dish Cult minor sub with standard county fees. All those in favor say I. I. opposed. Motion passes.

So now we're going to move in the county here. This is Fairway Village. So this is 100 South Davis Road and uh just east of nine

and we're going to move down to uh number eight. So, NAR uh currently has overhead um utilities uh through this area here on the back side of Fairway Village. Um per the plat, this whole area back here is a regul is a is a regulated drain easement. Um and so they will be in the easement uh looking to put a pedestal and then um they're going to be actually south of our tile and run out towards the street to finish their that they are doing there.

Basically going to put the tower right along the tile. Uh the tile is probably about 15 to 20 feet north of the property line. So they're going to be they're going to be about 10 feet away, which I mean we we like for them to be right around that neighborhood. So they're going to bore it. So Oh, great. We'll be there when they do it. So absolutely. So they're going to put a transformer box there. I move that we approve the utility crossing for Ninstar at Fairway Village Boulevard. Second. Do we need county hold on this with a standard county hold harmless

and no fee? Charge any fee normally it's ninear isn't it? Yeah. Normally let ninar. Yeah. We're still paying that bill with without a standard county fee. Got a second. It's been moved and seconded that we approve utility crossing for Ninstar at Fairway Village Boulevard north of Davis Road and withhold the standard county fee. All those in favor say I. I. I. Opposed? Motion passes. All right, we're going to move back around and head back up to 700 West. So, this is south of 500 North. Is this number six?

This is actually No, number six. We are knocking off the agenda right now. They did not get back to us. What number are we on? We are not number nine. Nine.

So, this is an arm of the Manford J. This is uh GDI properties. Uh they come up off of Enterprise Drive uh off of 6 West. They are going to be expanding uh Enterprise Drive coming all the way to 700 West and they're going to be putting a building uh now in the area there right off of 700 West and we have a county tile that runs uh just up behind that house that is there on that property. Uh currently that tile is an 18inch tile. Um they are they are the sole owners of the land that is there. They are proposing in your uh packet there. You should have a picture of should have a picture of the plan which may change a little bit. It needs a different font,

which may change a little bit. I found out on late Friday. Well, this their paperwork and what they want to do with it, but I found out on late Friday because they just got the drawings back from um Aqua, Indiana, the sewer that they're going to be running through there and they're going to have to move their their line a little bit closer a little bit further for where they're at, but it's all on their property. Uh but they are they would like to reconstruct the tile, relocate it. They want to make it a 42in tile from 18.

Now this the uh building to the south. We had them put a a stub in uh there. And the tile that runs out of that manhole is a 42inch tile as well that they'll be tying into to the south. And they would also like to reduce the legal drain easement to a to a proposed 30-in legal drain easement from the standard well 15 on each side of the tile which is usually what they do in subdivisions whenever you have tiles that are in the ground. So they would like to make it a 30foot. So, Steve, I don't know what's the proper way to do that, to do the easement after or to do the tile first. It's all owned by one landowner, so they don't have to have a hearing.

Um, final you just got, are you is it going to change again? The plans will change a little bit. Um, but I mean we will still those still have to come through our office from a standpoint of um to be approved by our office. Even if we were doing the the other, we would still have to approve the plans. It'll be pretty close to where it's at for where they're looking to show us. So, are they really asking for approval and don't really This is not really the final thing. It's close to where they want to be. They're going to be a little bit to the east.

They just come back when they finally figure out what they want to do. I mean, they can u I'm asking I mean, if if we approve this, then they come back and say, Usually, we've approved them based upon approved drawings from the surveyor's office is how we've done it in the past. So that way whenever those approved drawings come through, whenever we approve the drawings, they change it again, then they got to bring it back.

So once the drawings are finally approved, that's where it is from a location. So because they're moving it on their own property for where it's at, that's why we'll make sure that wherever it's at, it's accessible and it's usable and um all the things that it needs to happen for us to be able to work on it. And the big thing that'll run into is um when they get to their plans and things is is plantings, right? Um anytime you have a sub anytime you have a factory or a a commercial site, um you know, the building and planning department has them put landscaping up and different things like that. And so as they finalize those things, we'll have to make sure that you know you don't have any hardwood trees so close to it. You don't have those special things. So, as those plans come through, we have to make sure that that all that stuff is done as well.

I love where we're at. Will the encroachment be the building or parking lot or what? There is no encroachment. This is a relocation and a reconstruction. Reduction of easement. Reduction. This is number a reduction. Okay. The reduction of easement. The easement they're wanting to reduce. Will it be building or parking? Most of what'll be around it will be um pond landscape. It'll be open parking lot. Yeah. An open parking lot. Yeah. And and the road. Yes.

Yeah. I guess my concern is obviously buying a piece of property and then wanting to reduce later, but if they put a 42 inch town there and you got 15 feet on both sides, your spill pile is going to be bigger than that. So we need standard counterp harmless to dump dirt on the pavement and it's their problem or what when you got to go and tear that tile out if for some reason. Right. Or you can make your ement larger. Your normal won't matter because it'll be outside of your ement if you reduce it that small. Oh, that's right. Okay. Right. I I don't see how you're going to work on a 42in title with 15 ft on both sides.

Yeah. I mean I mean I know we've it it it's it'll be tight. Absolutely. But do we want to constrain you in that manner right? Well, here's the problem to me. 50 years they won't show you can show. Yeah. Or 25. Somebody else will be stuck with it. So this is the layout. So it'll be up here and we'll be fixing it over here in the grass here with the two crossings. So it's going to be concrete tile by the way. It'll be a reinforced concrete pipe. So this is the pipe, right? Uh it will be in this uh 30 foot easement coming right up here on But is this this is not the pipe I'm looking at? No, that's just additional easement lines that are in there for now.

So this is the edge of the road. Mhm. This is the edge of your pavement. So there's 30 ft here. So right now we've got 50 foot half rightway and then we've got an additional um we've got a 50 foot front yard buffer. So from this line to here is 50 feet. So there'll be more than the 30 ft.

Okay. That's not enough room. You you can you can say that you know would they I mean you guys would be willing to I mean from the easement from where you want to reduce it you can reduce it to a minimum of a certain amount or you can leave it in place for where it's at. Right. Am I right with that? Yeah. I mean, they could really do that from whatever stands. What's a safe easement size for them to work into? Like 75 ft. If you've got 50 50 ft. 25 each side. Okay. What's 20 What's 20 more feet?

You come up here and talk. Say there was a 50 foot buffer yard requirement from the planning. Yeah. Why don't you Why don't you let us know who you are? Yeah. Yeah, sorry. 50 foot buffer they keep. Yeah. Is it 50 ft for the rideway? So, so I'm Eric Worksh with American Structure Point. Uh, so right now we have a 50ft half rideway for uh East or for County Road 700. Then we also have a 50-ft buffer yard. And then we were planning on putting within the buffer yard the uh 30-foot easement for the legal drain. Does that make sense? So you're going to take 50 feet and put 30 feet inside of it basically.

Yes. We will have 50 feet of grass in the front yard and then there will be a 30 foot easement within that 50 foot area. Can we have the whole ement? I can discuss that with the land owner, but I don't personally see a problem with that at this time. She makes it the three yard problem is they're going to widen 700 eventually. That's why there's 50 foot half easement. So that's going to be narrowed up in time. Well, but it's you have the 50 foot half rightway for that and then you have the 50 foot. So, they've already set up the 50 foot for 700. So, the the buffer yard at the planning department's after the rightway for the road then the buffer yards on top of it. Am I right? I don't want to miss. That's right. That's correct. Way to do it.

So, can we ask for that whole 50 ft? That way we can put a standard county hold harmless in it. Obviously, if we got to go down there and do it, we may be less than 30 ft, but if something happens, we don't want to be liable for it to repair that tile. Can I ask you a question? In that buffer yard, is that where your landscaping is going to go? Most likely, yes. Yeah. So, then the only thing you've got in that is landscaping. So, trees and trips. So, if we need to get in there and work, that's what the whole harmless is. If we tear up your landscaping, you got, you know, that's our easement and then you're okay with that or whoever owns the property is. I think that's what you're getting at. And then yes, which is way better than pavement or whatever. My opinion, but I'm I'm if we if we approve the 30 ft and we end up tearing up brushes, we're liable for them.

That's fine. Outside of your ement. Yeah, if you shrink it down that far. Absolutely. We're requesting a 50ft easement with a standard county hold harmless in that 50 ft. I can easily talk to the owner and see what they say. Yes. Are you okay? I can compromise. Are you okay to come back next month with that or I don't see a personal problem with it. I know you don't. I was gonna say, well, and then if there's still some question of where this tile this is going to be.

So, at the moment, Aqua Indiana came back requesting that we extend the 12in sanitary sewer along County Road 700 to the north to continue service for future expansion to the north of our Enterprise Drive. So, at the current time, we were not expecting that. And so we would have to then move currently our design further to the east a little bit to handle the tile and the sanitary sew to get the 10-ft separation required at minimum between the two of them. Now obviously we're going to space them a little bit wider apart for obvious constructibility purposes, but we have to go back and reroute that. We just received that notice on Friday from them. We really don't know where we need to be. I would I would rather wait for this next month and deal with it then. Figure that out really. Yes. I mean kind of the way it looks to us.

Nope. That's totally fine. Not going to argue. Cool. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

All right, let's go to number 10. So number 10 is a uh encroachment. So we are at Heron Creek. All right. So we are in Herren Creek. Uh we are on the back side of the pond at Herren Creek. Heron Creek is 200 north and just south of the gateway projects. 700 west in between six and seven west.

Six and seven west. Believe this is lot 1682. Yeah. Jeez. All right. So, what they would like to do, so 1682 water. There's a pond in the center here. on has an easement around it uh for us to be able to work on. We have a tile here that's coming in as you can here on the thing. The red line doesn't quite show exactly where that tile is, but kind of it's drawn a little wonky there, but you can see the area. There's the outlet that's here. Uh also have pipes that are coming in from those two sides. Uh their lot is right here. uh they are requesting an encroachment into the easement because they would like to build a fence. So they would like to build a fence around their property uh into the easement here to enclose that area right there on the drawing that they gave to us. 40 by 40 by 61 fence off the back of their house really to their property line goes to the back there from our standpoint.

Um there is a safety ledge that's here. Um the only access we have to the pond right now there's an easement this way coming in. There's an ement this way and an easement this way. And we are only we only maintain the outlets. So we we we do these pipes that are right here. What we have to maintain the pond is the homeowners associations there. But it's their the easement runs all the way into the back of their property. It's the one with the light blue is the one we're looking at, right? Yes. To the left of the pipe coming in.

Do the service people have room to get around that pond? with that fence being in there. Is that Is that That's not our That's not So, we are only We only deal with the the pipe that's here. We wouldn't be coming in over there anyways. There's no There's no access for us over there. Uh the only access we have is there's an easement between these two houses. There's an easement between these two houses here. There's an easement down here. So, it does not affect does not affect us getting to the tile that's there. Now, how much do they want to encroach? I can't find that. Um, they are going to encroach 15 ft. 15 into the easement.

So, it's 15 ft kind of the, you know, you can kind of tell where the grass is a little darker and a little lighter. So, that might be that 15 ft from So, the easement runs So, here on my drawing right about there. Yeah, it's 15 ft. So they're looking at encroaching about that far. Like you said, there's there's no reason for us to be over there, but they're just encroaching. We do a standard county homeless and we move on, right? Yes. Yeah. I mean, from that standpoint. Yes. Correct. And you're also going everybody else around there that wants to do this is going to do they're going to shrink that down.

Well, set a once you set that president, I mean, everybody's going to want to do the same thing. I I'm not disagreeing with that. Um, that is also the the purview of this board of, you know, the lot that's there doesn't have an easement or a tile that's running next to it. You know, the next one does over. And so I I I'm just letting you know from that standpoint. I I think it would be a bigger issue for um the homeowners association and the development just because they're going to have to clean that pond at some point and mow that pond and that but that doesn't affect our problem.

But I know it don't. But I'm I'm also a HOA president and I know good well that I would not want a board actually giving them precedent to set that for everybody around that pond that

I was asked to they brought the petition into uh request to the board. So I'm bringing the information to you. Um it does not affect us from that standpoint Gary. I completely understand. I I agree and it's their property, but if you Yep. And I we have a couple subdivisions that we have issues with that now because people have put those in without coming even coming to the board, right? They've put them in and now we have to work around, you know, they're in situations. We have to work around them, but it's a pain, right? It's a pain when you get there to those people that put them in. Hold harmless and say, "Okay, if we But I we're not going to be the one." Assuming the HOA has already approved this, they wouldn't go to the next step, would they?

Well, and I don't even know if this is the HOA. I don't even know if they have an HOA yet. If they're build out enough in that section to they have just the developer get it approved here. Well, there should be permit for fencing here. Yeah, you have to have a permit. You're saying if you wanted to and your HOA said you could. Yes. So, ours is the difference is the only permit they have to get from the county is because they're in our ement. Yeah. And so, that's the issue. So pertinent to this board, both I see three outlets and there's easements right to them. Yes. So they could put fences all the way around that pond. It does not affect Hancock County drainage. Right.

Unless they Yes. Unless they unless they put them in over the easement that we have that goes through for us to be able to get into that. That's right. To work on those tiles. So that's one of the reasons why we make them in private subdivisions or in subdivisions put easements around their ponds so we can get into work out. Right. Well, I would make a motion that we approve the 15 foot encroachment from Heron Creek uh on North Clearwater Drive with the standard hold harmless for the county. And it would be a $375 fee, $15 per

$25 per foot. Yep. And a $375 fee. Second. Been moving. Second that we approve the encroachment I guess. Mhm. On North Kurwater Drive and Heron Creek with Standard County hold harmless. All those in favor say I. I. Opposed. Motion passes. Motion passes.

All right. So, let's go to number 11. All right. This is a little unique. So, this is US40 just outside town on the east side. Um, I don't have 11. I got 12.

No. What do we have? All right. So, this is the Church of God if I remember correctly. Is that right, Cory? That's correct. What's that?

Church of God there. Okay. So currently there is a building in the back back there um off of 40. Uh so if you look at the thing that we have here, so it would be this building that's back here. Um they are going to tear it down, put a new building up. Uh the new building that they want to put in um is going to be for uh men who come out of uh the jail for substance abuse and different things. uh kind of like a a house to help them uh start to assimilate into into society for where it's at. Um the issue that we have is that the regulated drain that runs down through there right now and where that building is. um that drain is within the 75- ft easement of the regulated drain. Building is currently there. They are asking for a reduction in that easement uh to put that building there uh to redo the building that is there. Um on the north side of this property, it's an open field. We can work on the drain from the north side. Uh, as we go down through there, we

open now. What's that? It's open now. Yeah. Who owns that? They don't They own the church owns that. Uhhuh. Right here next to their property. Click. Click on the parcel. That's the old bait shop. I Yeah, that's somebody different on that side of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The bait shop owns that on that side. That's correct. What are they wanting to reduce? So, this is this would be right east of the bait shop, right? Yeah. Right. Same side of the road. Okay. Yep. Okay. Right. How much is are they looking what kind of reduction are they looking for?

They want to move it from 75 ft. Um they want to move from 75 ft to 50 ft. They reduce it on that side 25 ft. So 50 ft on side to be able to put that building there. Is it buildable on the other side or would be is there enough room? I have no idea. I'm just asking that question. I think would be a little bit more as it comes to um building and planning. I'm not sure what their setbacks are off of the road and where they need to be. I mean, with where our easement goes,

I didn't know if I was looking at 50 ft or 250 ft. Well, right. If you look at my drawing right right there, 75 ft. There's 75 ft. So, there is room to build something there if in the future. So, you can't say you can work on that side. Well, within the 75 ft easement, I mean, they would, you know. Is there a flood plane through there? There is a flood plane through there. Yes, sir. So, they can't build anything. Yeah. Well, it all depends, right? In a flood plane, there are things you can do.

So, it's a flood way through there. So, on that that whole parcel is a flood way, they would not be able to build anything there. So, that parcel on the other side is a complete floodway. So, in a flood way, you can't build anything. So, on that side that where the bait shop is, that parcel through there is complete flood plane or floodway. So in a flood way you cannot build um you can't get a permit. You can't build anything in the flood way. If it's a flood plane then you can do certain things to build to a certain elevation. In a flood way you cannot because that is where water's flowing. Is that open or closed? It is open. Open. So no in that in that property there there would not be any building on the north side.

You say you can access it from the other side and clean it. But I mean, if you're clearing and dredging, how are you going to do the other side? Only do one side. We only We only We only We only clear one side, right? That's been standard practice now for probably 20 years. 50 be. Yeah. 50 is enough. And I mean, I mean, we wouldn't be on that side anyways. It's not like it's new. I never say never, but you know. Why Why can't we do an encroachment instead? That way, if the building's damaged, if I were the land owner, yeah,

I would want a reduction. If I'm going to make that investment, I would not want to have the county's ability to come in and damage my building. So, I'm from the landowner's perspective, that's why they've asked for a reduction of the It goes along with your title insurance and stuff like that, too. You know what I mean? But you're saying they can't build their I don't I don't can't build on the other side where they're putting this building. It's the flood plane. If you look at that drawing, it shows the building. I think it's the building proposal and where the flood planes at. Yeah. And all three of those existing buildings are coming down. Is that correct? Or just the back one? I think the existing buildings are staying there. Those three the back building is the only one that's the banquet hall back there. Yeah.

Is the one that's going away? Yes. Okay. And then they're putting new That's the That's the proposed building, correct? Okay. Tearing down and putting the new one back there. Yes. Sheriff is engaged in Look out. This is a first. This is a must must be his church. The bank hall back behind it project is not going anywhere at this time cuz they're planning on remodeling that in the future. That's back here, right? That's in the back. Very back. That's way back here. Yes. This is the building. It's up towards the front. Yeah. Yeah. This that right there. That's the garage. It's so the one that's farthest north.

Okay. That one's gone. That's gone right now. Yeah. Redoing. Yeah, because there's an existing building there and then they're rebuilding. They're doing this. Yes. They've already taken it down. Yeah. Is it a reduction to 50 ft? all the way on the east side along those three buildings. Is that the way you would? It just needs to make be clear in the motion where the location of the reduction is. Correct. So if it's traditionally we do it all on one side on a parcel. That was my question.

Just just because it's easier for our office to understand and maintain than say it it it comes out of this spot and it goes back in. You get a contractor out there with an excavator for him to to understand. It's, you know, 75 ft here and then it's it's it's that open ditch turns and goes Yes. Yes. And then it turns and goes to the west. Um they did request um one of the things that the pastor requested as well was because of the usage of the building um to wave the $2,500 fee.

I'll just I'm I'm relaying the information. Um but if it if approved they asked for that because of the service that it was being um utilized for for the for the community but um I just relay that information. So just for the board's information purposes 25 ft is the minimum you could reduce it along an open ditch. So this would be a 50. So that would be that's what the they're still only reducing 25 on the one side. Correct. But you can't reduce it any smaller than 25 ft per student to for an open ditch. Correct. Correct. Yeah. This is the max that they could reduce it.

I move we approve the reduction of easement for William New South Regulated Drink as presented. Second without What about the fee? Without the fee. Who second? I did. Second. Second. Okay. It's been moved and seconded that we approve the reduction in easement to 50 ft on the on the William New South regulated drain at 1541 East Main Street on the east side. On the east south side. Yes. On the east side of the ditch. All those in favor say I.

I. opposed. Motion passes without I'm sorry. Without fees.

All right. One more item here. Um it was brought uh we we had talked from the board here number 12. We had talked to the board about uh the fees uh that we had had from the drainage board. Uh we went back and it was uh requested by the board to go back and find the resolution uh and the items of what set up our fees and where they're at. Uh it was very interesting reading actually. Um when it was originally done, it was sent to the commissioners and then it was determined that that wasn't the right way to go. That the commissioners actually didn't have um the say on the fees. It was that was set by the board. So the they actually went back in the minutes and um had to redo it by the drainage board had to set the fees uh for the resolution uh for originally for where it was at. So um it's funny because it was in May, the first meeting in May in uh 2009. So it was uh 18 years ago. So 17 years ago. Um, so I talked to the auditor upstairs and got a resolution number uh for uh the fees that we would look to move. The question is, and I don't know, and this is more of a question for I guess our attorney and maybe Mr. Binky can help in this standpoint while he's sitting here as well. Um,

pay attention. Um, is I'm not sure and the question was asked, does this since they're changing of the fees, does it need to be advertised first or not? I my thought on that would be it needs to Okay. Okay. There's a if there's a proposed resolution they could it would not do you have a proposed number. Do you have number? We have the number and everything. Yes. So we we have a proposed number uh and the resolution and uh the the way the fees are on there. So we have that in the packet for what's there. Um and then we could advertise it and then at the next meeting um I think bring it through. So I think that's the way to do that. So we're uh we're in agreement. You need to uh

those numbers are agreeable to everybody advertise and then have public comment.

So just so everybody understands the things that we would like to change and and alter uh within there uh dependent um obviously it's been 17 years since this has been updated. Um, and the way that we looked at it from our office was that we want to continue to um maintain the property that we have access to through uh the easements and things that we have uh so that we don't incur more costs that we have when when people are doing things. So, the reduction regulated drain easement currently reads uh $2,500 um per lot or parcel um and or $25 per linear foot. We would like to change that to $25 per platted lot or $25 per linear foot, whichever is greater.

$2,500 per flatted lot.

Yeah. $25 per platted lot or $25 per linear foot, which is greater. Um, so like on the property that we just had um where they relocated it, if they were looking to reduce that easement, um, for a,000 ft, you know, it'd be $25,000, which is a big difference as opposed to $2,500. Um, because we're talking the linear fee that they're using for that. Um, the regulated drain encroachment, uh, we kept the same at $25 per foot, uh, minimum $250. uh reduce um either to daylight or to reduce from the 8 inch pipe. Uh we went from $250 to $450. Um I think we all understand that we'd still like for them to have an 8 in pipe or a natural water course to go into. Uh we added um the filing of a petition for the removal of obstruction regulated drain. I a mutual drain. Uh we had that issue here a little while ago uh where really no fee was ever being charged for someone to bring a petition in for the regulated drain mutual drain for us to by state statute. I have to uh investigate that whenever they bring that in but there is no uh monetary side of that. So this this allows our office to go and look at that and u observe what the issue is with the mutual drain. Uh but it also puts some skin in the game of the people who are bringing a petition in uh for what's there utility work. Uh regulated drain crossing permit. We moved from $250 per crossing to $500 per crossing. And then um the regulated drain encroachment permit for the utility work is the same $25 per foot and minimum $250. So if the board is amicable to uh these changes, we will uh put them in notice and publish them and then

need a motion. Need to introduce resolution number 2026-5-1 as presented. Second. your date of your next meeting. Uh the next meeting, that's what I'm bringing up right now. It is June June. All we have to do is just introduce it. Then it has to go out for public. It's been introduced. We don't have to vote. Mm. We just sign it. Got a question related to this when you

Yes, sir. Um, at the last meeting I'd asked that since we spent this is, you know, it's been almost 30 years since we right. Is there a way to do that annually? And then I don't know if there's anything in code I seem to see something in code where it doesn't say annually, but it gives a term of every five years.

We can do that. We can we can um the board sets I think in code it says the board sets fees as they see fit. So um I can you know we can our office can look at these every year and within every two or three or four whatever the board would like um you know we can uh bring to the board if we believe those fees need to be changed or adjusted at those points and they probably do. I mean we're not with the way inflation is and things are at. Absolutely. it community for nothing with that makes your office busier and

absolutely um yeah we will probably be bringing you to the commissioners here uh a little bit later in the year for some changes in the fees for erosion control and things like that because it's been the same amount of time for that and obviously that has changed a lot so um there will be some changes to that as well so but yeah for the drainage board u under the home rule um they are able to do this and so yeah we can I can every year at the beginning of the year we can bring in some numbers and show where those numbers played out and then whether we need to adjust those fees or not. Okay. Yeah, absolutely. Bill, appreciate that. Anything else? Motion to adjourn. Well, number six. Oh, number six. I said they they pulled. They didn't

Okay. There was a uh we got a letter. Um this is from Centerpoint Energy. Uh they are doing a project down on Steinmeire Road extension down there by New Pal and um they sent a letter back that they didn't like our hold harmless and wanted to redline some of the things in our hold harmless and so I sent that to Steve and we sent it back to them and said uh no this this is the hold harmless we have and

so they are they uh I got an email from them on Friday, late Friday, like after 5:00 on Friday, that they said, "Oh, um, okay, we will probably we will sign the counties hold harmless now, but we haven't got that done and we need to get things together." So, they didn't get stuff to us to finalize for being on the agenda for this time. So, they will be on agenda. Jumped over that and I guess I missed why. Yeah. And so, that's where we're at after. Got a motion and a second. Yep. been moved and seconded that we adjourn the the May 4th meeting. Any other discussion? All those in favor say I. I. Motions passes. We are adjourned. You guys need a couple minutes.

Thank you everybody. Okay,

there we go. Oh, We are

and got that. Okay, Gary P. Good morning. I have no items for signatures this morning. Uh, just FYI, I'll remind you again, are we going to extend HCSS into 2027? So, keep that in mind. Um Suzanne will come and talk to you guys about that at some point. We have consultant selection. So we had seven projects out for selection for design. The state was very generous. Was it 16 million? So it was $16 million year. So they make us keep it under 20. So but we don't complain. Um so I had these recommendations. I'll just read the slate of them and if you're okay with them, you can approve them as a slate or if you'd like some feedback on others. We did the standard RFQ selection process. Um for bridge 118 we selected VS Engineering. For bridge 75 we selected USI. A lot of these people do not have work with us right now by the way. Uh for bridge 27 we chose Engineering Resources Inc. For bridge 90 we chose SJCA. For brid or the two west five west roundabout we chose crossroads where they were they were the most qualified. Uh for six west 9 north anf. And for four west, three north roundabout, uh, Burgess and Knipel, we had several like 10 10 or more LOIs on each one of these, and I'm very grateful for the consultants for taking their time to assemble those and put them. Unfortunately, we can only select one. We had many qualified consultants on all these. Um, but I think these are the most qualified for these type jobs for the best chance for the county to succeed. If you are okay with the selection of this, we'll begin contracting with them.

You can make a motion approve this motion. I make a motion that we approve the consultant selection as presented uh for the highway department for bridges 118,75 27 90 2 west and five west crossroads six west and nine north uh and four west and three north. Second. We have a motion and second to approve the bridge selection for engineering uh as presented. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I same no same sign. Motion carries. We have one brand new one on here. Bill Spidel. So,

we haven't worked with this. Well, we know Bill from previous jobs, but uh he's on a new company now, so we're going to give him a shot. Um excited to Who is it? Which company? Engineering Resources. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay.

We are eligible for a land water conservation grant. Miss Shidler or Miss Roz will work on those. Uh we have a couple parcels identified that we might try to pick up uh to secure that for future use, future use for the public. Surely Trail Construction uh will go underway as soon as we get our paper. Um Ninstar, we have a grant for that. Ninstar parking is done. So if you have anybody listening to this, if anybody's online, if you want a nice walk today, go out to Ninstar Park. Come from the south and walk around. It's really nice out there. It is. I just out there.

It's really not. It's a nice walk. It's just It's just It's not It's just wild land. So, enjoy it. Uh New Pal High School, we're helping them with some utility things. Um so, we'll keep you appraised of that as that goes on. And as I said, we're waiting on the paper. Jack and Sons, we have arrived at terms. I have a meeting uh scheduled with Jamie and the father to make sure we have a sit down face to face. I may ask if one of the commissioners is available to come sit in on that to make sure we have before we start drafting all the documents which we will do. Um we will have a sit down make sure all the terms are in line, the price, the year lease, uh the outgoing only. I've worked with Jenna over at Greenfield. We have the brownfield we got set up last year. We should be able to get that taken care of uh while Jack is still there as it gets going.

She's she's aware of it. Yep. So everybody is everything is chugging along there. Just let us know. We'll do one of us will show up. Yep. Uh grateful Jack and Jack obviously he worked there his entire he made a career out of his life. We're very grateful for his contribution to city of Greenfield. Uh we wish him the best in retirement and uh we'll make good use of his land to make sure the public has good use of it as well. And there was no problem him taking a long time to consider because it's a lifetime thing. He should take a little time to consider it.

Capital plan. I've sent that. You saw that spreadsheet. It's also attached to this. If you want any changes to it, let me know and I'll resend it on to Mr. Shelby. Mr. Shel's looking at capital plan. The items in green are pretty set. That's all the stuff uh I've been working on. The items in red, I've added and made estimates for a lot of the commissioner's projects. The largest one in there you probably see is the uh justice center. And I actually forwarded it on to Sarah also. Excellent. And again, most of these capital projects were made known in a meeting back in September 2024 that the council got.

Yes. So, if you want any modification to those, please let me know and I will do so. Um, some of the other uh some of the other department heads have come in to work on their capital stuff too. I reminded them that hey, if you want any plans or anything that's just out of the ordinary, you need to get them out of the capital plan because it makes it much easier for the council um to anticipate if you need X plan or if you need a car or something like that. Just makes it easier for them to get it done. But the uh I know you're having the kickoff for the justice center thing. That is the big project. You have a lot of very big projects in the next several years. I know you're anticipating how to manage those. Um but just it should it should keep you awake at night.

According to Greg, everything should be okay as far as funds.

Yep. Uh Walnut Ridge drainage. If you look, this is one of our neighbors that's inside Greenfield. I'm sure they enjoy the Greenfield amenities and the Hancock County taxes. Um, so we have uh Glenn Morrow and myself met out there. Uh, we have this a simplified plan put together because we like simple plans to address some of that. Um, making sure that that is taken care of out there. Um, so that will be underway. We will follow up with the drainage easement. Glenn and I are fine. I get it built, figure out ex let the give the guys actually doing the work room to work and then we'll fit the Eastman around it in case there's a problem 20 years from now when we're all gone that there's an agreement in place that we can fix it because it is all on Greenfield property. So, we're helping out our neighbors here, but it is on Greenfield property, but our water does go through it. So, I want it to be right. So, it's mutually beneficial. Expense and revenue variability. We already talked about that. So, we're still working on that and seeing if there's any way we can narrow that down. Um, we did increase our 5307. Speaking about HCSS, it increased from three $319,000 a year to $322,000 a year. So, we got a little inflation bump on that, which was nice. And I'll announce for the public our winner of the top plow. Unfortunately, Kevin Driscoll passed away. He was our best pl. So, we'll miss him. Uh, but uh Chris Surell was our top plow this year. He plowed the most hours and had no accidents.

Oh, wow. So, we're very proud. It is very difficult to drive those plows and not have an accident. It is blinding out there and it's scary and uh we're proud of him for getting 117 hours in and not having any accidents, not getting stuck, not banging anybody's car, not banging mailbox. Like, it's really hard. I myself have gotten mailboxes. It's hard because the snow shoots out like a uh like a turret of destruction and if your mailbox isn't super solid, it's coming off. Um that the news insurance carrier was not here to hear that. That is the news is laughing. Perhaps I'll draw this up in a comic next time

and I can get in the comic section of the Greenfield Reporter. I can only dream of getting on Greenfield Gabber. I haven't made it yet, but I'm sure they're looking for me. Um I'm sure everybody else has. I'm sure it is election season. It's not. Um, barring that, that is all I have for this morning. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Oh, of note, uh, Heritage Group has reached out to talk to me today. Okay. I can only imagine what it's about. I'll report back when I Okay. talk to him. Thank you. Thank you.

Okay. Uh, Corey Taylor. Good morning. I did I saw you on uh all over Facebook. So, was that in Greenfield Gabber? No. No. You were you were in Indie Snacks and Were you running or not? We couldn't tell if you were eating cookies or handing out cookies. I was handing out the cookies. I may have had a couple. Good morning. Morning.

Good morning. Um, so I don't have a whole lot. Um, Friday the 8th, I have a punch list walk with Amplify. Uh, we're going to do the facade, the exterior. Um, that's pretty much all day. Um, they're going to do that one day and then do the interior another day, which they haven't sent me that date yet. Um, fountains bill with talking to Lisa. Lisa would really like to hold off just because the fountain's drains tied into pumps that we had installed. She doesn't want there to be any possibility of any leak and asked if we could wait until next week to get the fountains open until after the election. She just doesn't want to have

sure the possibility of something going wrong. I can understand that. Um, I need to add pest control service to the prosecutor's office and I also need to add exterior pest control to the courthouse. Um, with doing some some looking into So, the pest control is under facilities maintenance. Looks like I've got the money to do it, but it would be around $2,500. So, I think I'm okay um at this time to go ahead and add that. So, I think I'm going to do that. I'm having to spend money to treat for for ants and stuff and they suggested that if they started treating outside the courthouse that would that would help. Um

other than that that is all I have. Okay. Thank you. Yep. Keep up the good work. Sandy Roberts in here. Little Skipper and Scott Williams. He's not in here. Mike Gibson, he's here. Is here. Well, it's not 10:00 yet. Well, on the agenda for There's a recycling There's There is something on the agenda. Okay. Well, I I skipped you because I thought we was talking about the recycling service. Okay. You want me to go sit down? You're fine. Go ahead and get you done, then we'll get her her up here.

It won't take long. I didn't think so. I'm here to uh ask for your acceptance of a 10-ft dedicated rideway at can't see 6553 West 400 North. It's for a building expansion of that site. Uh so we had to do a replat. There's an existing 40 foot existing 30 foot right away now that was platted. We're adding 10 feet to that. It' be 40. So it' be a 40 foot total. Yeah. But we're adding adding 10 ft. We've already got 30. We're just adding another 10.

That's correct. And that uh right away is 0.079 acres. 0 079. very little. But I would make a motion that we approve the additional 10- foot uh dedicated right away on West 400 North uh with a 0.079. Second. We have a motion on the floor to accept an additional 10-ft dedicated rideway uh as presented at 6553. Didn't write it down.

Okay. West West 400 North. Okay. Uh all those in favor say I. I. Same sign. Uh motion passes. Cindy just came in too. Gary hot dog

Dee. Bye. Thank you. Thanks, Mike. Good morning. Good morning.

So, for the record, um I'm Dee Allander with the Hancock County, sorry, the Hancock County Solid Waste Management District, uh doing business as Recycle Hancock County. And on um April 8th, I got an email um that was sent out to all um county government that said that Bestway had removed the recycling service from Greenfield city limits, removed u from the annex building and then recycling totes from all the Hancock County buildings will also be removed. Um and then um as of that date, they did not have another avenue for recycling. So, um I am bringing this to your attention because, um that's what I do. That's what you've hired me do to do is to promote recycling for the county. Um and so I'm coming to you today um to address that issue. Um I did take kind of an informal poll. Uh, I emailed out all the Hancock County Department heads um just to kind of gauge their interest to see, you know, is this something that they want or is this, you know, something that they have no interest in. I did not hear back from everybody, but um I heard back from six departments that um they definitely do want this service. Um there was one that said no, that they weren't doing it anyway. Uh I talked to um Sheriff Burkheart uh out at the jail and he was very concerned because they get a lot of cardboard out there and you know everything is stopped out there. You know what you know just office recycling as well as you know I'm sure they have a lot of kitchen recycling as well. Um but in in particular you know he was concerned about all the cardboard that he gets out there. So, um,

uh, just to kind of bring it to light, the, uh, I know the city of Greenfield right now is currently taking, uh, bids for trash and recycling service. So, they're soon, hopefully, going to be offering recycling to all the residents of the city of Greenfield. I'm working with the parks department to start recycling at the parks uh, locations as well. Um, so I I do get a lot of phone calls that come into my office of, you know, people that are new to the area or, you know, maybe they've been here for years, but majority of them are new people moving to this area wanting to know where our recycling center is and how they can recycle or who offers recycling service. So, a lot of those people are saying, well, where I used to live, you know, excuse me, it was required to recycle or it was provided for us or, you know, was mandatory. Um, we don't have those requirements here. But, um, I do want to be able to provide them with some solution. You know, if they are wanting to recycle, you know, I want to provide an opportunity to them. Uh luckily we we do have Republic services here in town which is open excuse me for anybody in the community or even out of county you know that wants to recycle. They're willing to they're able to take their items there for free. They do not charge. So that is super great that we do have that opportunity. Um and then um I am just still winding down from a very busy month of encouraging recycling in all the schools. Um, I've spoken to over 2,000 elementary school students, um, and every single school, elementary school in the county, you know, stressing the importance of recycling. Um, it's, uh, it's a huge problem. You

know, just driving down the road, Highway 52, next to the the Waste Management owned landfill down there, I mean, the rate that that hill is growing is just alarming. Um, you can stand, the last time I was out there, you could stand on the top of that hill. You could see uh the courthouse here in Greenfield. You could see the water tower by the hospital. You could even see the skyline of Indianapolis from the top of that hill. So, it's it's it's really scary, you know, the amount of trash that is coming to our area. Um, and I'm sure a lot of it is recyclable materials that doesn't really have to be there. Um, so recycling is definitely the right thing to do for our environment. Um, it's for the right thing to do for our natural resources. Um, the right thing to do for uh future generations. Um, so I'm kind of bringing this to your attention to see if maybe we can look at possibly bringing back recycling to our Hancock County government. Um I did reach out um to a couple of our waste haulers that do provide recycling service. Um one of them was not interested in um proposing or giving me a estimate on what it would cost. Um the other one did and I do have um the prior price that we are paying with um their bids that they offered to me. I don't know if this is something that I would probably have to go out to an official, you know, bid process, but I was able to get some pricing on that. Um, not sure if you're interested in hearing that or or what our next steps are.

The thing is those were were removed by the company. Okay. That we didn't have a choice there. So, if you come up with something else, we'd be willing to look at that also. Okay. Because it it saved us. What do we what saved us pile? Yeah, it saved us quite a bit. So, how much was it? A little monthly. Yeah, it's expensive. Um Yeah, it's But we didn't have a choice there. They No. And I understand that you know that you know a lot of companies are are kind of going away from recycling just due to the expense. Should we send this out for proposals or what? Yeah, I think that's a good idea.

That's what I That's what I think. Just I mean that way it's all done in public. We're not hiding or wanting to hide anything. That way somebody sees that it's very public. So yeah. No, that'd be great. I would appreciate the the opportunity to to bring recycling back. All right. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Uh Sandy Roberts. Good morning. Good morning. Morning. Sorry I wasn't here when I was supposed to be. Um, you're fine.

Our contract with Eagle View is needs to be uh I saw that in our We need a new contract with them, I guess. Um, in your packet is some pricing that they gave us. It's an email. It was just an email. Oh, just this one right here. That's it. So, um, with the new with the new house bill that they passed that says assessors cannot go on your property without permission. I heard that.

Yeah. It's I feel like it's very important that we keep using e view for our aerials. It allows us to you know, manipulate the screen so we can see what's in your backyard. Um, it's not real clear sometimes. They've given us another option that John can talk about because I don't know anything about this technology.

What we've typically been using in the past is referred to as a 3-in resolution. So, what you see in an aerial photo like for example on Beacon represent what what things look like within like a three inch square on the ground. So it kind of generalizes that and makes it that color at a one one inch resolution which is what they're offering essentially you're looking at like one one square inch on the ground and seeing what that color would amount to. So it is much more clear. Um it's not that much more expensive but I would mention also with one inch resolution more expensive for it to store that because it takes a lot more space. So that's kind of a hidden cost that might not be visible there. I did discuss with Bernie so he's aware. Um if there are we do have sometimes some needs for I guess every year a foss every two years like we've been doing once again that's more space on it's part and of course much more expenses we're doing for doing it every year but on the other hand if city can't get on property people's property without their permission we might need that kind of flexibility where we have that every year too.

What do you think the best tradeoff is then with it is going to cost more to have the one inch But if the storage increases and then it costs us in a different wayide more storage what tradeoff is processor still be able to see she would get a little bit better accuracy with the wage when they start measuring but I'm not sure it's worth the extra cost and the it cost for the storage necessarily but it would be a crisper image and they can make finer measurements. This is a yearly fee isn't it to what yearly fee? Yes. Okay. Well, well, hopefully by by the time we get through the next year, they would have already changed that bill. So,

because they're making adjustments to that bill all the time. So, well, and that's thing. It's been coming out of the surveyor's bud or John's budget. Um, it was in our budget for a while, but everybody has access to it. So, you know, should it still should we put that in our budget? Should he put it in our budget or should we should it be the commissioner's budget? I'm not sure. I just know that we need a new contract and I just want to make you guys aware of it. So, you're not asking us yet today to decide which one we want. Is that it? Yeah. I don't think he needs to know yet. Just Okay.

We usually have this flown in the fall so they'll know. Okay. So, and we doing it in the odd years. So, but on your recommendation, if you had to recommend one or the other, regardless of who paid it, which would you which would be the best fit for us as a county, I think I think we're getting close to the point where need we have enough growth, we might want to look at it every year. But on the other hand, for looking at that Senate bill, too, it's going to maybe a little bit where it might change. It might not be so restrictive. Maybe we can wait another year and see what that what happens with that bill, too. Yeah. The bill says we can't enter their property. We don't want to go inside.

But I've talked to I've talked to Ethan a few times and he's like, "You cannot step foot on their property." Well, how can we go to the door and knock if we can't even step foot on their property? Without their permission. Without their permission. I don't know. I'd have to read that. Uh so I Yeah, we've not gotten any Yeah. guidance from the DLGF yet. But um it makes my team that goes out and measures real leery. But what I was saying is which which version of this would we want? The 3-in version or the 1 in version? The one in would be the best. If if we can't afford that, the 3-in works for us.

Okay. Do you John, do you think either you or Bernie could also kind of give us an idea what he thinks it would cost us an upgraded? I'll discuss it with it. Okay. Yeah, that's what we really need to know because that's also taken a big jump. Yeah. Year, too. We just want to make you aware of what was coming on. I appreciate that. Thank you. Yes. All right. Thanks for hearing us. Thank you. Thank you, Scott Williams.

Good morning. Morning. Okay, two two quick things today. Um, Gary, I need you to sign um a contract for my code consultant. They had a name change for their company and this is just signing with a new name. Same company, just different name. Correct. Okay. What you got there? There now. Noation. Noation. Well, no. Noation agreement is a legal term. The name of the company is Prime AE. Okay.

Has anything changed in this contract or it's just the the name? Just just just the name change. Yep. Same people. Okay. Same everything. I make a motion. rates that we uh approve the new contract uh with the new name of a company, Novation Agreement, Prime Ae Group, Inc. second. There's a motion on the floor to approve the new contract with a new name uh same contract with a new name agreement as presented. All those in favor say I. I.

Oppose, same sign. Motion carries. All right. My second item is concerning the unsafe building law and trying to recoup some administrative costs. Um, under the unsafe building law, I believe you have it. Um, I highlighted the section um that mentions this. Um, it's something I've not done before, but if if you look at the very bottom where I've highlighted B, it says the board or commission having control over the department shall determine the amount of average processing expense at a public hearing after notice, blah blah blah. So, um, since I'm under you guys, it falls on you to do this. Now, I've been working up um a worksheet to try to capture some hours and some what do I have like title search, certified mail, cost, posting in the paper, um office supplies, site visits, trying to come up with something for you guys to try to determine. So, what I've come up with so far is between like $500 $600 just for administrative fees. The one thing that does not include is our attorney fees or um you guys as the hearing authority, your time broken down into like an hourly fee. So, I don't know how far you guys want to take this. Um I would think that the attorney fees would be on there for sure.

Yeah. I have no idea how to calculate that for you guys. So I need help with that. Well, yeah, we can, you know, we can come up with that. Usually what happens is you have to present I I would be doing that like right then I and I have we've actually paid that Okay. I would do an affidavit of time. Okay. Part of the judge's decision to award the fees under the statute.

Okay. That would have to go through a judge. That's something that that's the way I would do that. Okay. So, if I would point out to the court what the citation for the authority for that. Okay. have that part of the award because that would actually go with the lean on the property. Exactly. And and that's failed to mention that. So, not only the bid price of the work to be done, you know, we can invoice the property owner. If they don't pay, then we lean it. Well, this would be in capturing the administrative fees along with the bid price. I know you you put an incredible amount of time into

Yeah. And and again, it's it it's hard even for me to come up with my time because maybe sometimes I'll have a fiveminute phone conversation with somebody. Well, I I don't log that, you know, it's just part of my job. So to really capture how much time I put into one of these is kind of a moving target. So they create kind of like the legal council six minute system like Right.

Right. Administrative part of that part of the overall right there. Okay. Just have to have be ready. Okay. Not everything goes that far either. Well, that was my next question. So, if if we go through all this and it doesn't go to court, I mean, we still can do this. Yes. Okay. It's just then, you know, that it's more likely that we are tested maybe,

right? Okay. Well, it's something that's been in this law and and the other properties I've demolished. It's not been that many, three or four through the years. We've we've never tried to do this, but it's available, you know. So, well, I get when I take my my truck, they take my dog admin, it's administrative fees, right? Exactly. I mean, they they put it on everything. Okay. No. So what do you need me to share the worksheet I have with you guys via email just to get a start? Yes. Okay.

Yeah. I would ask you to work on a standard list of administrative fees what you think they are per that tenth of an hour so that we can have a set, you know, rate to be able to either compare or look at if we're the first one does it. Okay. All right. And then in my like figuring my actual time, I called up to payroll and got, you know, not just my salary divided out, but what it cost to employ me. Yeah. So, I got those numbers from payroll for me and my assistant. So, I'm using those. Okay. Um

Yeah. But otherwise, I mean, I got a good start on it. So yeah, just get send it to us in an email and then we'll take a look at it and we'll see where to go from there. Okay. All right. All right. Thank you very much, Scott. Yes. Could he include the recording fees of any leans that are actually applied? I think that's a I think that Oh, that's good. Yeah, I didn't have that on there. Is you would have a recording fee for that lean in a release on it as well. So I I don't know if it's considered administrative or not, though. Yep. Well, it's got a list here. I'm not going to read through it, but I'll look and see if it is. It does say we have to figure the average processing expense at a public hearing. Yeah, I'm not. Yeah,

that might that's actually going to be a hearing where that would be presented at case little more to it there. So, that would be per case, not just like a at the public hearing the board or the commission. having control over the department show out. Okay. Actually could be the actually be this board,

but I find that a little interesting because I think it's better to goes to an actual rather have the judge order those papers. the way to do that because there's a transcript of it and similar to what we do on condemnation. Why don't you send us that? We'll rustle with it a little bit. Okay. Yeah. I mean, this this isn't urgent. I mean, we we got the one coming up, the bids um open today, actually. So, hopefully I'll start receiving some. I've talked to three or four contractors already, so I'm sure we'll get good good bids to compare.

Good. Good. So, okay. Thank you. All right. Thank you, Scott. We got a few more minutes. Uh, how about Andrea? Andrea Laughlin,

good morning. I believe you have the information in your packet that I uh provided, but to put this on record, um I'm here today just to request that you approval for corrections to the PTO approval charts and the related policy language for employees and our employee manual. Uh during a review I discovered that the PTO approval charts contain incorrect hour amounts for the line item titled first six months of employment orientation period. Um the written policy states that a new employee shall receive PTO equivalent to what they would acrue in the first 6 months of employment upon hire. But none of the charts had the accurate amounts in them. Uh we have four charts. Seven-hour employees 35 a week should receive 78 because the hour or the monthly acral is 13. So and it listed at 7 70.5. The 8hour employees uh are 15 hours a month which should be 90 and they're listed at 81. 10-hour employees should receive 102 uh because their monthly is 17 and it's also listed at 81 and the 12-hour employees uh are 19 per month which should be 114 not 99 which is what's currently in those charts. Um the manual was implemented in August of 2024. So I would also suggest that we go back anyone who's still employed here and make them whole, give them back the hours that they did not receive upon hire. Additionally, the policy language was very very confusing. Um, and I did rewrite it to simply make that acrual

uh, and when the PTO starts to acrue monthly after the 6 months, uh, that language a little more clear with an example that was a little easier to read and I can read that aloud if you need me to. So, basically that boils down we need to correct the approval charts. We need to update the policy language and we need to authorize the adjustments to the PTO banks for all affected employees since August 21st of 2024. Auditor, we've talked about it and I think this is her jurisdiction and your jurisdiction.

Oh, you guys can do that. I'm not quite sure how that's going to affect people back from 2024. I mean, there's a there's a lot of different scenarios that we will need to consider, but if someone is due time, we will make that happen. Okay. And I did speak with the payroll team and they said this would be a fairly easy fix once they had approval. Okay. Okay. So, motion. Yeah. Motion to amend.

I uh make a motion to approve the corrections to the PTO approval charts on pages 46 and 47. Approve updated policy language for the new employee section and authorize PTO adjustments for all affected employees hired since August 21st of 2024. Second. We have a motion and a second on the floor to approve correction to PTO acrruel charts on page 4647. approved the updated policy language for the new new employee section and authorized the PTO adjustments for all affected employees hired since August 21st of 2024. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I.

Oppose. Same sign. Motion carries. Thank you very much. Uh do you want to there have five minutes. Let's uh go ahead and make a motion to approve claims and payroll. Second. Motion to approve claims and payroll is mo and second is on the floor. All in favor say I. I. I. Auditor business. Um on the study for fire and EMS review is doing. We we've received our our first invoice here. um invoice ending in 497 and invoice uh 466,

but we're not sure where you want that paid from. Professional services only has like $1,000. It was out of food and beverage that the council gave us that money. Was it out of food and beverage? Because we didn't have that in a motion. Oh, okay. From council or from commissioners? Commissioners. might have been okay at that meeting, but I don't. No. Well, so we want to uh take this back to the council then for food and beverage monies. Just affirmation that

Well, well, I'll check their minutes as well. Maybe they made the motion and then we're fine. Well, let's go ahead and make a motion though, just so we're covered and you two can carry on. I move that we approve invoice number BT 3512497 in the amount of $15,566 and invoice number BT3481466 in the amount of $30,700. uh fees provided through January of 26 for our uh fire uh EMS review. Second.

We have a motion uh on the floor in a second to approve the Baker Tilly uh invoices. Two of them, one being BT3512497 and BT 3481466. All those in favor say I. I. I. Motion. I. I. Okay. I did. Okay. Okay. Motion carries. And we did pull that contract just so you're aware just so that we can keep track of where we're not to exceed. Okay. So, we're good. That's all I've got. Okay. You need a break? No. Good. Okay. Good. Good. Okay. Uh,

got three minutes. How about the sheriff? You might need more than three. The sheriff, he's not he's he's uh bringing us something else, not what's on the schedule. Morning. Good morning. I was on the agenda for uh some quotes on a walkway canopy, but I didn't get all that back right now. So, I'll reschedu for next time. Okay. So, I have all those together for you. Um, but what I do have is uh I received this morning from uh Ian from Garmong and I just need to get a signature for an addendum application for something to do with the building. Okay,

you have paperwork with you. I make a motion that we uh approve and ratify the fire suspension state application for the sheriff support building. Second. There's a motion on the floor to actually sign the mo uh uh addendum application for the sheriff for the the sheriff's evidence building. All those in favor say I. I. Motion carries. Okay. Right here at the engineer owner. I'm not signing anything.

I am Okay, there you go. We did We already cut it. We already did it. Let's do it again. I don't have a test, do I? Okay.

Okay. I make a motion that we approve the Hancock County Community Corrections uh Nelson Alarm invoice number 26043108 in the amount of $31,55. This is for installation of an access system, parts, labor, and adjustments. Second. There's motion in floor to approve the uh Nelson alarm installation of equipment invoice number 26043108. True. Okay. For $31,55. All those in favor say I. I. Oppos. Same sign. Motion carries. We can stop right there.

Okay. Wait a second. very quickly the motion that you made for what we signed for the sheriff there was um the Nelson alarm and the ratify the fire suppression and I think that both of those were mentioned in that motion so I think that's why we need clarification um actually we just we just approved signing the paper yeah and that was just for the fire suspension uh sus suppression it was for both two different things oh that's why it was well this is what we're approving right Yeah, that's Nelson alarm that we're approving right now. Right. Fire suppression support building different than what he has. You want to take a look at this?

Okay. That was the one you signed the other day. Oh, okay. That we need to ratify. There you go. There you go. Yeah, we're good. Yes, you are. We just need to make a motion and ratify it. Make a We already did that. No, we need to make a motion to ratify. Well, I signed not here. Yeah, that we gave permission for you to sign last time we were here. Yes. Okay. All right. Cuz your signatures on there. Okay. All right. Already signed. All right. Second. I need a motion to ref. Um, well, did we I thought we were going to redo that. So, we did do that. We We did. We gave him the authority to sign it. We did last time. is ratifying. We ratifying that. Got it.

Are we all ratified now? Well, nobody actually did a motion to ratify. And I second and Bill seconded. All those in favor say I. I. It's ratified now. Ratified. We're approved. Ratified. Okay. And I make a motion. I make a motion that we approve the affidavit for construction fund reimbursement uh number 25 um Hancock County Redevelopment Authority Redevelopment District um and lease rental bonds series 2025. Second.

There is a motion and second to uh approve affidavit for construction fund distribution request number 25 as presented. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I. Motion carries. Now I need a motion. Motion to recess. Motion to recess. Yes. Second. Motion to recess on and second on the floor. All those in favor say I. I. So bit. I'll make a motion that we call our solid waste district meeting to order. Come on. Second. All right. There we go. Give this down to Bill. Okay.

How are you, sir? Okay. Pretty snazzy in that boat. All right. Here you go, K. Yes, you did. Go. Good morning. The funny thing was I got a tide. Good morning, everyone. Good morning. How are you doing? How are you? Okay. Thank you.

You're welcome. So, we'll call the meeting to order. First item up on our agenda is the review of the minutes from our April 7th, 2026 meeting. I make a motion that we re uh approve the minutes for April 7th, 2026. Second.

Robin got it. Robin got it. Let the ladies have it. Yep. We have a motion on the floor for approval of the minutes. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I. Motion passes. Director's report.

Okay. So, our invoices for the month of April um was the contract had an Amazon purchase for office supplies for printer toner, a fuel purchase from Speedway. Um so, there was an error um in our telephone service last month. Um I think that is now resolved. Um so um so the March invoice also paid for February. So I think we've got that under control now. Um then under um the talks away, we did get our 2025 budget uh appropriation, the funds that were left over from last year. Um and I applied that all to our talksway account. Uh I did some advertising and great deals. We did already get our invoices for our electronics and our paint that we collected at our collection event. And then under the event fund, we have receipt of the credit card charges that came through our collection event as well as the cash. Get a motion for approval of invoices. Make that motion. Approval for the invoices.

Second move and seconded. We approve the invoices as presented by Dee. Any other discussion? All those in favor say I. I. I. Motion passes.

Okay. So, um I decided to go ahead and include my time schedule monthly just so if there's any questions then I'll be able to be able to answer it rather than trying to go back three months. So, I do have my um schedule for the month of April. As you can see, most of my time was spent doing school programs. So, looks like I've spent over 72 hours um in the schools doing programs. Um I did rack up some extra time beyond my normal contracted hours um over at the very far right edge of that sheet. So I it's been a very busy month and I was not able to continue with my regular duties in the seven-hour day. So um I did have to spend some extra time uh some of the days just to get things done. Some of my programs even started before 8:00. So um or even I had to be at the schools prior to 8 o'clock. So I had some early mornings and late evenings and it was a it's been a crazy month but um we're surviving. Um, I actually even tried to take a sick day on um, April 20th. I didn't have a voice, so I had I did have to cancel my school programs, but um, I did, uh, answer some emails and do a little bit of work that day in the afternoon. Um, so that's my schedule for the month. I don't know if we have to approve anything. Okay,

thank you.

All right, so um, on to old business. Uh I have not heard anything regarding the Hancock County community fund community foundation grant update yet. Um still have not heard whether we have won that or not. And the same with the IDM tire grant. I have not heard anything on that as well. Uh the school program update. Um I don't have the total programs that I've done up to this date. I still have I think two more weeks. um of programming before we're done for the the school year. I did have um there were some programs that I did try to change the program on. Those were the the food programs that I had. So I have um two programs that involve food. And so I reached out to those teachers and asked them to pick a different program. Uh out of those programs, most of them did choose a different program to for me to present. However, I did have about 15 uh school programs that did get cancelled because that was the program that they wanted and if they couldn't have that program, they just wanted to cancel. So, I did get about 15 that did cancel. Um I still have a few more that I need to reschedu or re um pick a different program for um that I'll have to address this week. Um or public services partner up update. Um, I have no information on that and I haven't had time to even neg or initiate anything for that as well. So, um, I'll get back on that this month. Um, our collection event for our spring event was a huge huge turnout. Uh, another record-breaking event. It went well before well beyond what I had even anticipated. Um, so in your packet I

have um this year's events, the information that I have so far, and then I also included last year's spring event just so you could kind of compare um totals. So last spring we had 408 participants at that event, 48 cars that came through our event. Uh this year we had 995 participants. So we more than doubled our participation. um this spring. Um it was very very good. Uh so a lot of that was due to um the Greenfield Banking Company providing the shred truck. So they advertised the event to all of their um customer base. So um we had a huge increase in the number of people that had document shredding, but all of our stations, all of our vendors, all those numbers went up. Um, our hazardous waste, we had 166 last spring. This spring we had 240. So, everything across the board went up. Um, including our expenses for the event. Um, so I don't have all those bills in yet, but we're still they're still trickling in. So, I'm sure we'll get more of those this week. Um but we did um uh we had two police officers that were directing traffic at both the entrance and the exit to Park Chapel and um the traffic still managed to back up all the way to Highway 9. And uh they finally closed the roundabout heading east to U McKenzie Road which really helped because it forced people to go around the block and come in from the east. Um, so that kind of helped open up that roundabout and uh relieved our traffic issues at 9:00. Um, so I I wasn't able to actually visibly see all

those issues that we were creating, but I just heard about them. We had residents that were waiting in the parking lot for over an hour to get through. I had more volunteers this time than I did last year and we still we were average wait time I think was about 45 minutes to an hour from what I kind of pulled. Um so um we did have a very good response overall it went really well. I I don't really have any major issues that happened at the event but we just had a really good turnout really good response. So, uh, I was going to, um, print or create a slideshow so you could see some of the pictures, but I didn't get that done. So, maybe next month I'll be able to provide some slideshows of all the traffic that we had. So, but it was very good. Um, on to new business. So, um, it was requested last month that we consider hiring a board attorney for our solid waste district board. I did um proceed with getting a few quotes on that. However, I had a meeting with uh Mr. Spalding and uh he suggested that we do an official RFP process for that. So, um I guess do we need to

work with Scott to Yeah. take the scope that we talked about too from our meeting the other day, make sure the scope is listed in there, what's desired for that legal counsel that would come here and then to publish that. Has he received a copy of that scope or He hasn't. I was going to talk to him. We have another engagement today after this meeting with Scott Williams from building, but it was all about today to say, "Hey, here's what we have and let's turn this into an RFP for legal counsel for solid waste." Okay, perfect.

Yes. Yes. Mhm. And I I told them I said we would put an RFP in in place so that they could apply for it at least that way instead of us going to them and and soliciting their service. And he's clear. He's just kind of waiting. So yeah. And then I did reach out to two other attorneys as well as Steve. Um, Greg Morlock is also interested interested as well as uh Jody Buts who is the solid waste district attorney for Shelby County. So those are ones that were interested.

Um, so I talked to my personal insurance agent to try to get insurance to cover my business since I am still an independent contractor um to cover us for our collection event. he did come back to me and said due to the fact that we were accepting hazardous waste at the event that they did not have a policy that they could insure me for that. So, um I did reach out to Brian Breeze as well. He was also working on trying to come up with a policy uh that would cover my business, myself as well as the commissioners and the solid waste district board. he did provide an insurance policy for us that covered all the entities as well as Park Chapel um for their facility. I do have uh an extra invoice that came in that I didn't mention up above that I wanted to get approval to pay and that is for that insurance policy. Um the amount was $1,427.83 for that. making a motion for this additional insurance policy payment.

So moved. Second. Motion on the floor to pay the additional insurance requested by the solid waste district management district for this past Saturday's um turn-in event at Park Chapel. See any other discussion? All those in favor say I. Where we going to pay it from? Um the from the re from the solid waste management district's uh fund general fund. Yeah. It'll it'll well I'll probably have to create an insurance line item but um the funds will come from our talks away budget. Okay. Yeah. I uh any nays motion passes.

Okay. Um, and I was notified by Park Chapel Christian Church that we are no long no longer able to have our fall location there. They had something come up um within the church um an event and so they are not able to allow us to use the parking lot for the fall and I knew this before our spring event. So it had nothing to do with our spring event. Um, so I due to our um numbers that we had at our spring event, my first thought was to go back to the Greenfield Central Junior High to have our event there. However, I don't think they have the capacity at that location to handle a thousand cars. Um, or yeah, is that right? Said um

900 and something.

Yeah, a thousand thousand vehicles. um unless we like extend the event longer in the day. But um so I am now working on I found out that the Eleno parking lot or the Lanco facility is no longer owned by Eleno. It has now moved on to the new owners. I thought that wasn't occurring for another year, but um it has turned over has happened. So, I've been talking to Steve Long to see if there's any chance that we could go back to that location because that would be an ideal location. You know, we could even, you know, if we start backing up to Highway 9, we could send people down the road to the roundabout to head back so the line would back up on that road, which I don't think is very widely used. There is a um a warehouse down there, but I'm not sure that they're even open on Saturday. I'm not really sure. but they still have another entrance so it wouldn't hinder um that business as well. So um I'm proposing to to move it to Eleno. I have not gotten the approval from Steve Long or their other partners

um to find out if that is a possibility. But I am looking for a new location um and if they're not available I'll try to make the junior high work. I think we will have permission to go back to the junior high. Um, I haven't submitted the paperwork to get that approved either. I'm just kind of waiting to see if we need that. But, um, and if you guys have any ideas of any other locations we could check into, um, our our biggest problem is just getting the traffic off the major roads, you know, and having a place for them to line up while we try to process everybody through the event. So, but if you're you have any ideas, let me know. Um and then um uh one thing I don't have on my um agenda here is I did uh I did um appear at the um county commissioner meeting to try to reinstate recycling service for the government offices. Um that was taken away from us by the recycling provider. So I'm trying to get that program going again. So, I just wanted to let the board know that I did did appear at the the county commissioner's meeting.

Just to let you know, uh we had no choice. The trash service said we're no longer recycling. So, we've told her to go out and find somebody else. I'm working on it. And we actually had them to decrease our bill that they were charging us for it, too. So, we saved over a,000 bucks a month. So, we're She's looking.

Okay. And then, um, the last thing that I have on here, um, is the 2027 budget. I I did not even get a chance to work on that very much. I'm not sure when those budgets are are due. I know we need to talk about that. Um, so I guess I'm our talks away line item. I will have to increase for next year. We luckily we had money left over from 2025 that's going to carry over to this year that's going to help us with the shortfall for talks away. I think I should have enough funds there. I mean depending on how our fall event goes but even so our our hazardous waste has a cap of $25,000. Um this year we're very very close um for the spring event. I think it was I will be getting an an invoice for almost $24,000. So, we almost reached that cap. But even if we hit that cap for our fall event, I don't anticipate running out of funds in our our talks away line item. Um, but I will have to increase that for next year because I won't have the any money left over from this year that's going to roll over. So, I'm um going to be requesting to increase our talks away from 60,000 up to 75,000. So, that's kind of a big big jump. Um and then the only other thing would be the contract if if you desired to do a pay increase for the contract. But other than that, I think everything else can pretty much stay the same.

Thank you. I I know you're going to want to have your budget prepared pretty quickly because by June they're really trying to solidify. That's kind of what I thought. I thought I usually presented it at the May meeting. I know Mary Bmer had said something about certain numbers they didn't have back from DLGF yet, but I think as soon as those come in, they're going to want to have that probably prepared by June because in July that will be when every comes together and yeah,

shares their budget request. So, do do you think that there's time for me to come back in June to prevent or present my proposed budget or do we need to finalize that at this meeting? We're meeting early in June. So, June 2nd, right? I think should be I think we ought to be okay for you to have it in in June. Okay. Well, then I'll any revisions that we would request or additions, we have those well ahead of the time. you would need. Okay. All right, then. I guess that is all I have unless anybody else has anything else to add.

Now, that was a good event that you did on Saturday. So, a little backstory to that. I was the last car in the whole queue to get in there. Went around the block, carried a a hefty amount of TVs, hazmat, shredding, batteries,

and uh that site worked out really really well. Volunteers did a great job. They directed you where you needed to go and I didn't I'd have probably waited maybe 20 minutes in the line in total, you know, just to get through. The biggest inconvenience was coming down Apple and realizing the roundabout was closed and having to come, you know, to Blue Road to come back again, but totally understood. Um, don't know if that's just a oneoff for the amount of people that came because it sounds like it it did double. Yeah. in size and if that's a sign of things to come or could be

what but I I know you were talking about sites I'm not sure if you know if a land co is that site and it works great I don't I don't know where else that was it was just had a perfect layout at Park Chapel church with their lots to do what you needed to do yeah it did work out really well we we had we had traffic snaking through the parking lot using every little inch we could possibly use um but we have to leave our our corners kind of wide because we do get some trailers that come in there. So, we can't, you know, do a hairpin turn, but you know, we have soft turns, but yeah, it did work out very well. I was very pleased. Thank you. Any other business for the board? Seeing none. Motion to adjurnn.

Second, this move second we adjourn. All those in favor say I. I. I. Motion passes. We're journ. Thank you.

Do you want to re catch Chad? Yes.

I'll call the commissioners meeting back to order. Chad Cooker. They did. Oh, okay. And we've got the IT group renewal.

You're not having to worry about it. I don't see Bernie's name on here. It is right here. No, no, no. I'm talking on here. Oh, what are you looking at? I It gets hectic. It be right here. It It's just a renewal. Just a renewal right here. Yeah, down here on the bottom uh Nelson alarm. We already did that. We did and uh ratified the sheriff ratified and dispersement and it it's not just merely ratified. It's sincerely ratified DC group, right?

And that's for burning. It's just a renewal. Y um so I would make a motion that we approve the proposal for service for DC group for it uh quote number 000062700 in the amount of $600 and it looks like it's just an annual annual fee.

Okay. Uh second. We have a motion on the floor to renew the uh proposal for services for it uh and approve quote number 62700 in the amount of $600 annually. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I. I. Same sign. Motion carries. And that's it. Yeah. Yeah.

I I would I would too. Yes.

Just have this one. Do we have any comment from the public? Only one thing left. There's no public out there. Make a motion. Second. Motion to adjurnn is on the floor. All those in favor say I. I. Motion carries. Oh boy.