County Commissioners - Regular Meeting

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Do I have a motion to approve the minutes of our last meeting? I move that we approve the minutes for 120 2026 and 23 2026. Second. Have a motion and second to approve the meetings for 1 2026 and 2 3 2026. Any further discussion? All those in favor? I I

oppose. Same sign. Motion passes. Uh Gary P. I have two items for signature and one item for heads up. We'll begin with a SJCA not to exceed contract for right away 632 is for bridge replacement of bridge number. So this is not to exceed contract food in Hancock County project

not to exceed that. [clears throat] We have an LPA consulting contract uh between Hancock County and uh SGCA does number 2201632 for bridge replacement bridge number 24 county road 900 north over Sugar Creek in Hancock County, Indiana with a price not to exceed 29,530. 29,000 $29,530. some very good rightway there. [laughter] That's a motion, eh? That's a motion. Okay, second.

We have a a motion in a second to approve dev's number. Help me out here, Janine. Right here. Right here. Okay. 2201632 uh with LPA Consulting and Hancock County uh bridge replacement for Hancock County Bridge number 24 County Road 900 North over Sugar Creek in Hancock County, Indiana. Any further discussion? All those in favor? I oppose. Same sign. Motion passes. $29,530. Yes. FYI,

the next item I have is a agreement number one for subcontract between us, Hancock County, and EMCS. And this is for right away on uh it's a little smaller project for bridge 48. And this is a not to exceed $2,000. That was the one I just did. [clears throat]

EMC

$2,000. Sorry. Sorry. 27,000. 27. See, you're no better than I [snorts] am. It's We go faster. [laughter] But as long as we get it right then there right there. Mhm. Here. Here. Got it. And there. Got it. We have an amendment to the subcontract between Hancock County Indiana LPA and EMCS, Inc.. The consultant does number 2201631. Hancock County Bridge number 48 replacement uh with a price tag not to exceed $27,470.

Second. We have a motion and a second to uh approve DEZ number 2201631 Hancock County Bridge number 48 uh for the amount not to exceed $27,470 as presented. Uh all those in favor I oppose. Same sign. And

that'll just have a signature for the president on the top. Okay. the blue sticker is because that's just an amendment, not a full contract. At the next RDC meeting, I've gone through all the our planned expenditures and everything. You'll see in front of you is anou that uh they wanted to bring it to you guys first so that they could say they presented it to you. You don't have to sign anything here today. This is what uh I had programmed in our fiscal expenditures for the RDC budget. Um it basically has $750,000. It's over the next three years that the RDC is agreeing to um pay Buck Creek Fire a certain amount for their operational and other expenditures. And it also has $200,000 for a parking lot replacement I believe in year 2027. So they're I'm not asking for a signature or anything, but they're looking that you have seen it. And if you have no objections, then they can go back to the RDC and say the commissioners had no issues with that. But that is all planned within the fiscal spreadsheets that I take care of. It is fis it is within the fiscally constrained project. So it's it's safe to do as we have been doing. So

the numbers look okay to they do a motion to send it on with the recommended to RDC. Is that what

you can make a motion to Gary can advise the RDC that the commissioners take no exception to this memorandum of understanding? I move that uh we send to the RDC the Buck Creek Township memorandum of understanding between Buck Creek Township and Hancock County Redevelopment Commission regarding fire protection funding for 2027 through 2029 in the amounts that will be uh 750,000 in 2780,000 in 28 811,229 to Buck Creek Township from the HRDC C. Additionally, $2,000 parking lot project slated for 2028. 200,000. $200,000 parking lot project.

What did I say? 2,000. But it's fine. As long as we get the the last part, we're good. See, we're we're both off today. It's fine. We're good. Second. Okay. Okay, we have a motion second to uh uh recommend forward into the RDC memorandum of understanding between Buck Creek Township and Hancock County Redevelopment Commission regarding fire protection funding through 2027 through 2029 as presented. All those in favor? I opposed. Same sign. Motion passes. So I will take that and share with the RDC that the commissioners take no exception to this memo.

Okay. Um other business. Let's move on to Jack and Sons. Uh they have until June 26th to accept the offer. Uh we're not making changes on it. Um the prosecutor I I know that Bill and Gary are working on uh finishing up the old jail. The prosecutor's office is finished in the old jail. At some point, we're going have to circle back around to talk about if we're going to do future projects there, how we're going to prosecute, how we're going to chase those projects. Um HCSS will need to be talked about at some point, whether we're going to extend the uh microransit program with HCSS. Indiana trails program grant has been submitted. Miriam has sent in. Try to figure out what our motion is on that or if they're gonna have any news on that at some point. Did we ever get any news on that? Miriam, I thought

you talking about HCSS. No, no, no. I've switched on to the trail is not respond.

They're not responding. Okay. Uh still working on the solar ars. I talked about the last thing, but we are saving money on our power bill. Bridges 300 South and 400 South are closed. We're probably going to modify the barriers out there on 300 South a little bit. Buy things. We have to give it a good week to see how it goes. I think we can probably spread them out a little bit more. Now that everybody's got the hint that it's closed, we can probably just spread them out and ease the traffic a little bit. So, uh, Ryan and Mike Rollz are heading out there to [clears throat] make sure that is reset safely so people can move through there a little bit easier during the school hour. Rest most of the day it's just fine, but school hour gets a little crunchy in there between the cars trying to weave through those and pass each other at the same time because it's kind of an intense moment for about 15 20 minutes while Zion is coming in and out of there. So, they're modifying those uh barriers today. If anybody calls and asks about that, they should be uh working on that this morning and trying to get that tweaked. Um you might if you get a chance, you might want to look at the Journ video I put on there. Someone had some questions about that. Um we did do the a quick AR on snow. Um we're going to leave the policy as it is right now. We might need to add a little more education on the industrial areas. Um, I had one of the most of the neighborhoods get it like, "You're going to have to plow your own snow, but we'll come out and help if we can." We had one industrial partner like, "When are you going to come plow our snow for an industrial area?" I'm like, "Dude, you're going to plow your own snow. You're making a profit there, and it's it's your work area. You're going to pl we're not going to send county trucks in there. All we'll get is sued complaints. We'll damage something." And um, we are still working on a new safety plan. I'm trying to figure out what how I want to approach that. So, we're working on that, but that's something I want to keep in house. I'm not hiring that out. That's one of our primary objectives is safety. So, we're not going to push that out. Um Gary, you or I or Bill or Janine, we need to talk to the mayor. I know they've got brownfield money. We probably need to have the final sit down because eventually Jack's going to

decide what he wants to do. We need to sit down and make sure that we are protected. Probably Scott too, to an extent. Make sure we are protected legally if we purchase that land that we are okay. I have already met with the mayor on that and I've talked with the planning director and they do have some brownfield monies. So my primary concern is that if we buy it, I don't want to I don't want to buy a bunch of liability. I don't want to buy it and immediately have Greenfield on us about stuff. I will talk to him about that. Just like are you guys going to leave us alone if we buy this? Right. I think we don't want a repeat of what we experienced with our last projects. So yeah, we just want some assurances up ahead. Okay. because we're doing them a favor there and we're doing them we're doing Hancock County a solid. Like it's good for Hancock County, but it's it's in their backyard. So, yes, it is.

Um, and when we're done, I would like to do an AR with Corey. Um, probably Gary and Bill or whoever wants to do the or whoever wants to do the active, we probably need to do an AR about um the prosecutors. I every every big project I like to do an after action review what we can do better next time. Every project has friction. Um, but we can we can always try to get a little bit better in each one. So, I'll I'll let you know when that will be. Okay. We'll probably have it out my office informally and just talk about what we can do differently or better next time. Well, it definitely was a learning curve. I think anything we do in the future is going to have an environmental study attached to it that would have helped us avoid a little bit of things, but it's all those things you learn that it it makes sense to have an act after action on just about everything we do.

Yeah. Any big operation we should do should we should look in the mirror and see how we can do it better.

We're not going to pretend to be perfect. the people might expect that, but that's unrealistic, but we do need to try to improve a little bit each time. Um, on the back side, I don't know if I show this. I show this to the the council. On the right side, you can see our from 20 to 2024. That's the last date I had. Um, I was doing a safety data, but all this other stuff's in there at the same time. Hanok County's average household income's coming out at 21%. The national average in that time period has been 10%. So I think uh the people of Hancock County and the politicians too have done a good job. I mean we've we're 10% we're double what the rest of the nation is on what people bring home in pay. That's good.

That's good.

Um our accidents are still low. Um but we'll keep working on it. Um it's interesting when I was really looking at it. The thing that saved us a lot of accidents was and I I'll take my hat off to Joe Copeland on this because you kind of started it was the um changing all the speed limits to the right speed limits like using US 52 for the speed limits and it's it's counterintuitive. We raised most of the speed limits and most people would say well you're going to kill a bunch of people. No, it it it cut 30% of the accidents because when you have too over speed limit people drive the speed they want anyway. We have people have head-on accidents. Well, you're people have head-on accidents and rear end accidents because now we have people driving all these different speeds. So, I was surprised when I was looked at that had a pretty big impact. The other things that were big impacts were uh the roundabouts, obviously, edgeline painting. Um, and we're trying to find the next thing. We're we're searching for where our next thing is to do, but we're going to stay on top of those things. Our rumble strips, the simple things, edge lines, um, doing the speed limits by science, doing stop signs by science. Um, we're down to, we had one fatality last year, unfortunately, the young man on the motorcycle, but they've come, you can see this, our population has grown a lot and our accidents have gone down a lot and that's good. And our injuries have too. Uh, they climb back up as the population goes back up, but um,

we should feel good about that. I'd be happy when we have a zero year, but okay. Oh, I put the, uh, efficiency of government on there, too. So we spend the average county in Indiana spends between 2 and 7% of the GDP of the county. So the total money spent in the county, the average county is spending between 2 and 7%. Obviously we want to be as low as we can. That means we're efficient. We are at 3%. Um so that's good. Um so we're being somewhat I think we're being efficient with the money. It's not our money. So it's good to make sure it's hidden and and getting things done. We're not perfect either. That's why we do ARS, but that's in there. So I just threw that in there. I had the information. which I thought it might be useful to you.

I think it's pretty efficient for the first or second fastest growing county in the state of Indiana. I mean, when you look at the overall, we we got real efficient when we had the big crunch, like when we about didn't make payroll. Remember that, Deborah? We got real efficient after that. We starved. And when you starve, you get skinny. [laughter] So, and we haven't gotten fat. So, we're always working against that. We have things we can always get better at, but I think you should feel good about we should celebrate the few things we get right. Right. So, all right, that's all I got. Thanks. Thank you, Gary. Thanks for all you and your highway guys do and gals over there in your office. We guys and girls are working hard. I'm just a figurehead.

Okay, Corey Taylor. All right. First thing I've got for you is the for PDF mechanical to replace the boiler um water heaters for the domestic water in community corrections. Um this is for PDF to provide and install um two lock bar AWN201 95% efficiency um boilers and the piping and backnet needed to power those for a material total of 41,520 subs 700 890 labor 21,700 for a total of $71,110. I just need an approval. This was the emergency situation for them to this wasn't in the scope to replace during the remodel. Uh but this is going to hold them occupying that space until this is complete. So, Deb, do we have this in his [snorts] facility any maintenance budget or anything?

This was going to be This is all part of the Oh, it's part of the re renovation. [clears throat] That was the 724,000 that we had. Yes.

Yes. Okay. I would make a motion that we approve the PDF mechanical uh proposal for the scope of work uh be new water heater lock and venar 95% efficiency price will not exceed material Material of 41,520 subs 7,890 labor 21,700 for a grand total not to exceed $71,000 $110.

Second. We have a motion and second on the floor to uh replace uh the boiler system in the community corrections building. Uh price not to exceed $71,110 as presented. All those in favor? I just just a comment before I make it. Cory, I think Lockenbar is a good product. I do water testing at at my church and there's a hot water heater that's been in there since the 1950s that's still coming on strong. So you probably will not have to worry about this. We won't have to in our lifetimes after the replacement. So that's what we actually just put in this building a year ago. So So yes, give that a yes vote. What was the brand name?

Lock Lockenvar. It's a commercial commercial brand hot water heater. All those in favor? I Okay. Motion passes. Next.

All right. I've got two invoices from uh Feny Incorporated for snow removal. Uh first invoice 12526-1. This is for uh clearing snow at the annex, the 911 center, Purdue Extension, Community Corrections, Memorial Building, County Courthouse, Sidewalks, and utilization of Gator with the Vblade for a total of $5,650. Make a motion that we approve invoice number 125

1262 26-25 $5,92.50 for Bini Inc. snow removal. Yeah, that was the the second one. The first one was 125 526-1. I don't have that one. I don't have that. Don't have that one. We've got the five 5,900. We've got the 1262. 6-2. We'll go to the next one. Go to the next.

Um, so the the other invoice, uh, same thing. Annex Purdue Community Corrections Memorial Courthouse, uh, for a total of $5,92.50. This is invoice number 12626-2. So, let me back this up. Can I I'm just going to do this in one motion. Okay,

I'm going to make a motion that we approve invoice uh 12626-2 and 12526-1 for Veni Inc. for snow removal. Uh one in the amount of $5,92.50 and the other in $5,650 even.

Second. We have a motion and a second on the floor to approve invoice number 12562-1 and 12626-2 for with between Venini incorporated for snow removal. One amount was $5,650 and the other one was 59 $592.50 as presented. All those in favor say I.

I. All oppose. Same sign. Motion passes. Scott, you'll see a resurgent elevator. I just came through. [clears throat] Next item I've got for you is I made you aware of the issues with the elevator at the courthouse. Um, this quote is for resurgent elevator to go in and start resolving some of those issues. Um, basically we discussed if we're going to do it, we're going to go and replace potential failures. Um, how in depth do you want me to go on that Scott? Read everything.

Well, I think the way I reviewed that was that's a safety issue need to be addressed on a pretty urgent basis. another emergency, right? And the the one thing that we'll have to discuss with the courts is it's going to be an extended extended period of time um that we won't be able to utilize the elevator, which is not ideal. Um but it's the only way we can get this work done unfortunately. Um, the one thing I noticed on here, Scott, um, they did ask for the 50% uh, initial, which I think I talked to you about, Deborah. Um,

yeah, we don't we don't advance. We can, so we can, um, this is the law that we had looked up. We can do 50%, but it takes council's [clears throat] approval. So, I think Cory, I don't know if you talked to council about it yet. No, I have not. You made them aware though, didn't you, Gary? Uh, let me thank. Yes, I talked to Jim. Okay, [clears throat] I can

I I would. And if you guys want to go ahead and make a motion that you're agreeable to that, then be ahead of that portion. That is a kind of a break though in the practice that typically follow. Yeah, we typically don't do that. So, but emergency situations or if there's a huge huge piece of equipment that's going to require that that's the process and that's backed by law.

That makes that makes a little more sense in this situation here. I Well, Corey, have they said how long they think that might take? everything is in except for everything is available in the United States except for one part they're having a hard time finding. Um they're still working on that to let me know. Um the one thing that he did tell me is that we also need to be aware of unforeseen conditions. So we may need to expedite something. We may have additional cost with sourcing it elsewhere. Um but he wanted to make sure we were aware of that. But what I'm asking though is from the point that they actually start doing the work.

He's working on a timeline for me right now. Um cuz that's the judges are going to ask. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, they're they're still working on that. Um hopefully I'll have something the next day or two on a timeline. My plan is to once I have that to have a sit down with you and even maybe some of the the staff over there just so they're aware, right? And let us know what their estimated uh additional cost is. I know it says in here expedited material time can be available at 8 to 12 weeks but at an additional cost. So what they think their additional costs

them? The hard thing with this one is it's just so complex. There's so many components and parts to this that have to be replaced that it's it's hard nailing down each part and when it's going to be here. Um, but he is he's working on that. So, I'll let you know. Can you find out too if we have to do if we do replace that whole elevator if there are any of those parts that are reusable in that or I can ask him. Okay. Um, most of the parts that are being repaired and replaced are circuit boards, controls. Um, there are a few buttons within the cab of the elevator, some some signage. Uh, I think the indicator for floor level, uh, but most of most of it is is boards that are replaced. And we've already replaced two of them.

Yes, sir. At almost $20,000. Yes, sir. So, rather than to keep throwing money at it, we best just get it redone and be done with it. Okay. Do you want the price to approve the 50% or no? Um, I was going to make the motion to approve the total amount and then send it on to council with the approval for the 50% pay with a favorable recommendation. Okay, that good.

Okay, a motion second to uh approve the $298,93 and 92 total cost with a motion to send to council with a 50% upfront payment for this uh as presented. All those in favor? I

opposed. Same sign. Motion passes. All right. The next item I've got is um which Gary, this is why I asked you to stick around. Um some change orders. for community corrections. But unfortunately, I'm having technical difficulties. I can't get it to load on my phone. Do you recall what the number was on that, Gary? Cuz I can't get it to load on my phone.

No, I don't recall the actual number. It was 10 and something. I do know that. Okay. [sighs and gasps] Just to make you aware, there's uh change orders for adding some tile into um conference room. Uh they wanted to take some of the cell doors off, just [snorts] remove them. Um a little bit of paint and some flooring around $100,000 and change orders, specifically community corrections.

Several couple thousand square feet of useful space. Um, it's not actually it's not actually going into any other new space. It's just the conference room that's there, which was the outdoor wreck. The echoes in there are bad. Uh, they'd like to make that put drop ceiling lights. Sprinklers will have to move down. Seems rational. That can go under the bond. Yes, that that amount is $178,238 total. No. Like those are good improvements. We walked it. We need them. We have room in the bottom. Yes, we got 700 and something in there.

So you were aware. Okay. So I needed I guess a motion to let just to be able to let them know. Uh I apologize. I was having computer difficulties this morning and it looks like phone. Oh yeah. That's first envoys of make a motion we approve uh county revision to the envoy project all the way all the way down. All the way down. All the way down.

Yeah. In the amount of uh 1,000. Oh, this is what we couldn't. Yes, ma'am. Yeah. Um 1,00 $100,782 $238 1,00 Gosh $178,238.

Got it. I guess Cory, could you make sure that we get a copy of that via email if we don't already have it? [clears throat] Yeah, I will. Absolutely. You want me to forward this to you? Yeah. And then print it out. You just read that off as a um a motion. Yes, I second that. Okay. Uh there's a motion and a second on the floor uh for renovations at the community community corrections change order with between Envoy and Hancock County and with amount not to exceed $178,238. All those in approve. I I

oppose. Same sign. Motion passes and I'll forward this to you guys. It out. Mhm. Sure. I was having email issues this morning. I would have been prepared, but having problems. I'll get it to you. The other thing, uh, Gary, were we meeting etiquette group today? He was supposed to be here. I talked uh it was Scott with Etica. He was supposed to meet us here afterwards. Okay. After the meeting. Yes.

All right. Thank you. Keep that on you, Paul. I just bought it there, buddy. Okay, going. Oh, I I I I flipped you guys. So, basically, Go ahead. Go ahead, Phil.

Okay. I'll try to I'll try to be quick. [laughter] I am here this morning on behalf of the uh Harmon and Bill's major subdivision, which is a three lot subdivision approved at the northwest corner of State Road 234 and County Road 300 West. and I'm here today asking for your signature for acceptance of the ride ofway. Uh it is a 70 foot half right ofway on County Road 300 West and also on State Road 234. That is a total of 1.389 acres of rideway being 1.389 acres of rideway being dedicated. If you bring it to Janine, she'll get it going.

Make a motion that we approve the 70 foot 1/2 rideaway for the Harmon and Bills major subdivision consisting of 1.389 acres in within the rideway. Second. There's a motion and second on the board to accept a 70 foot half rideway equaling 1.389 acres with a Harmon and Bill's major subdivision. Uh as presented all those in favor I I all I and oppose same side. Motion passes.

Thank you. special pen. [snorts] [laughter] A lot of people had to be agreeable to it though before. Yeah.

Yes, it was. Special pen. Special pen.

[sighs and gasps] Mr.

You're welcome. Thank you, Chris. Mr. Cooper, should I say? Good morning. Good morning. Um, I'm here to uh dedicate right away for the Scott Castro minor subdivision. It's a northwest corner of Morristown Pike and County Road 500 South. It's a 35 foot half rightway on both. Um, and in total, it's about 1.281 acres. How much? 1.281 281 across the three lot minor sub.

No. Make a motion that we approve the Scott Castro minor subdivision uh 35 foot 1/2 rightway at uh Morstown Pike 500 South uh with the uh land amount of 1.281 acres. [clears throat] Second motion second on the floor to approve the acceptance of a 35- ft half rideway total acres equaling 1.281 281 acres as presented. All those in favor? I I oppos. Same sign. Motion passes. Two.

Okay. One sheet.

You doing all right? You doing all right? That's good. Busy is good. Plenty to do.

Here you go, sir. Thank you very much. Nice seeing you, bud. Uh, could I get a motion for a recess? Sure. Motion to recess. Second. All in favor? Hi. Hi. Oh gosh. I'm sorry. I should have went to bed earlier last night. [laughter]

Kayla Brooks. Where's she at? There she is. [clears throat]

Morning. Good morning.

Morning. All right. First, legal services agreement. Um, so as you guys know, I the plan commission and BCA have worked with uh the uh legal firm of Brandon Morlock for um as long as I've been here. [clears throat] Um they've served as well. um this year's legal agreement um I believe is in your packet and uh gives the the rate charged um and the basically what all our attorneys agree to do [clears throat] in that Greg Morlock is the contact for this um the plan commission gave me the go-ahhead to present this to you um and since it is a contract um it needs your signature so I make a motion that we approve the legal services agreement with Brandon Morlock, attorneys at Law Greenfield, Indiana. Uh that is set forth above with the price tag of $250 per hour. That's it.

And that is for the legal services for the area BCA areawide planning commission. Oh, you want me to put them all in one? Well, he just did, I think. Can we do it all in in one? It's really Can we do it all at once? It's all part of the contract. Okay. And ditto with Brandon Morlock for the BZA. Second. We have a motion second on it to approve the legal services agreement between Brandon Morlock and Hancock County Areaide Plan Commission, BZA. And that it

uh and for a contractual services uh for $250 per hour as presented. Any discussion? All those in favor say I. I. Same sign. Motion passes.

Thank you. Judge Davis is not here.

Sarah, can you text Judge Davis and see [clears throat]

Uh, Michael and Nicole Scott.

Good morning, Commissioner. Good morning, Frank.

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for the time today. Uh my name is Michael Scott and my wife Nicole and I did purchase uh 2.7 acres in Manship Estates just south of Fort Bill. Uh we're building with Joiner Homes here in Greenfield. And through the long learning process of building a home, we have learned uh that on our corner lot, we have two driveway easements. Now, this lot is a very long lot. It's 563 feet. We've learned that the driveway easements as recorded are on the far south end and on the far north end of the property. By the time we put in the septics, the home, and a a barn that we'd like to put in, we've discovered that everything would have been shoved to the far north end of the property, really cluttering everything. So, aesthetically, it wasn't pleasing. Uh the only alternative was to have a very long, extensive, and expensive driveway coming from the south leading all the way to the home. it it really was very cumbersome in that research. So, what we're asking for and and through my vast conversations with uh Cayla Brooks, with uh Mike Rollers and the highway department, trying to educate myself as much as I could, we really don't see a reason that we couldn't ask for permission to move that south driveway easement north, placing it more in the middle of the lot to be more aesthetically pleasing um and keeping with the natural landscape of the property.

Okay. The green right here. Is that correct? It's green. Correct. Kayla, how how does plan commission stand on this?

Really have no thoughts on it. As long as driveway cuts are limited, which was the goal of the non-access easement that surrounds Scott's lot. All right. With the with us. Um the non-access easement as it is shown was part of the plat but it was not something that was a specific condition of the platting as far as we can tell. Okay. And Mike Rollz, have you talked with him? It sounds like you have and he's they have no issue. The highway department has no issue with moving these driveway accesses. Correct.

It is on a private road. It's not on a county road. But even after the conversation, it it makes logical sense to do what we're asking. Make a motion that we approve the um use of the move the driveway from the southern point or central point of lot 4 Manship Estates Hancock County Indiana on parcel number 30-02-15-400-045- 016 address 9120 Manship Lane, Fortville, Indiana.

Second. We have a motion second to approve the Michael Scott request for approval to modify driveway easement in Manship estate lot 4 and as presented. All those in favor? I I opposed. Same sign. Motion approved. Thank you. Appreciate it. sign that Judge Davis. Good morning. Morning. Morning.

Um, I had uh sent an email to Gary and I think you got you forwarded to the other two. Uh, Tabitha Davis is with me today. She I hiring her as my new behavior health court coordinator. She's currently a probation officer and um she wanted to be able to keep her probation officer status. I sent you the uh breakdown. If she ever wants to leave, it will grow from $10,000 or more over time. So there's she she would lose money to go backwards. But if she ever wanted to, at least the years would count. And another big reason it's important that they keep that is because after for 5 years or 10 years, they got a bump. Okay? But I've also found out from all problem solving courts that I've talked to, and this is Hendrickx, Hamilton, Johnson, uh, Dearbornne out by a rising sun, everybody that works for problem solving courts are probation officers. So, we're not, and I think a lot of that had to do with Judge Culver was the first one to create that drug court long, long time ago, and they didn't work for probation. I'm not saying I'm going to ask for anybody else to go work for probation, but Taba came from that, and it's important for her to keep that status. you um I think Morgan over at community corrections has had that as well but it it will only have bumpups and I gave you that breakdown if you're a member of how it is. So we'd appreciate that status. Our first day would be March 2nd.

What do you think? I don't have any issue with herinary office officer status. Make a motion to approve the uh BHC probation officer status to stay intact. Second. There's a motion on the floor to uh approve the probation officer status for BHC. Uh and Judge Davis here. And I don't think there's any other discussion. All those in favor? I oppose. Same sign. You got it. Thank you very much. Appreciate it.

Thank you. [clears throat] Kim Medlin, the Outback Reszone,

not Kim Medlin, but I'm with her. So, John Smith, Kim Medlin, we're back uh through the reszone for Outback Storage.

Yep. Um we passed through commissioners meeting and uh plan commission last about nine months ago and we went back through we missed our date for our um permit. We turned it in on August 18th and on October 22nd it expired and it hadn't got approved through the county yet. So we've had been asked to come back through the process again. So, we're looking for the reszone um on that location so that we can pull permit and proceed forward. Be glad to answer any questions that you guys have. It was approved set forward with favorable recommendation from the planning.

But there was I mean it felt like that you were behind this thing the whole time. It's like nothing got done. And I mean that is it's a slap in the face to everybody at the planning department when they've asked you to do things and it didn't get done. So uh I would motion that we approve it with the uh stipulation all fines have to be paid. Okay. So know how much those Kayla Kayla I think she's gone. Oh there she is. ask a question about Smiths about outback. Yes.

We motion to approve this with stipulation that all fines had to be paid. Okay. Yes. Something we can something that could be done is you could direct the plan the planning department to um to basically you could do something like double the fee for the um work they've already done that they said they were going to get an ILP for ahead of time. I'd motion that we approve the doubling fees. Second. All in favor? I I

nay. But let me explain my vote. I I I don't have a problem with the doubling the fees. It's just getting out in front of a construction project before you get the permits to do that. That's not a process that we want to acknowledge. I know you're probably more than capable of doing that in the business you're in of efficient and effective building of things, but there's a process that we follow with permitting that if we continue to allow people to get out in front of the permitting process, we'll never get it back under control. Understood. Okay. Motion passes.

Uh what's the ordinance number? Oh, you got it. If I'm an A on that, am I signing that? You don't have to.

Okay. And then do we need to introduce it or it's already been introduced? We're just suspend [clears throat] the rules. Right. So Janine, you'd introduce it and then suspend the rules on the day of introduction and motion that um I move that we approve ordinance number 2026-2. Introduce ordinance number. Just introduce it. I am introducing it. No, you did. I say approve. I'm sorry. I'd like to introduce ordinance number uh 2026-2-G amending the Hanok County Zone zoning ordinance number 2007-1B amending um

approving the ordinance. Approving the ordin ordinance. Okay. Okay. And then motion to suspend make a motion to suspend the rules on the day of introduction on the day of introduction. Ordinance number ordinance number 2026-2-G. Second. Okay. We have a a motion and a second to suspend the rules on the day of introduction. All those in favor say I. I. Oppos. Same sign. Now we have to be introd Motion to adopt ordinance number 2026-2-G. Second.

Okay, we have a a motion and second on the floor to uh approve ordinance or yeah, approve ordinance number 2026-2-G as presented. And that is meaning title 15, chapter 156 uh zoning of the Hancock County Code of Ordinances. All those in favor I post same sign. They u hold up just a second. So Kayla's raised an issue

um that this is area is IIL industrial light. So the the zoning ordinance was because of a uh expiration of the zoning. Um so this case it is um to it is a a reszone brought by the plan commission to reszone to R1. So basically we're keeping it zoned IIL is what I just understood from what just happened. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So all right.

So we should be good. But you submitted that to us because that's what you want. That's what you and the planning department wanted. Correct. Yes. So by signing the ordinance that I prepared. I believe that reszones it back to should be whatever you decided. If that was it then? Yes. So we are keeping it zoned IIL. So I believe you're denying this ordinance because Yeah. Because this says from to residential. Well, if it's not worded the way you want it, tell us which way we need to have it worded so that it's acceptable. This ordinance is correctly worded.

But by approving it, you are reszoning it back to R1. And the summary of the discussion that just occurred, I believe, was to keep it zoned IIL so that the Smiths could continue their project. So I So we should be voting against that. You got it. Yep. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Then uh Rescend your motion. I'm rescending rescending the previous regarding ordinance 2026- 2-G. And we got a motion second to resend the previous motion. Second. Yeah. And all those in favor say I. I.

Motion approved. Uh, now it's done the way you want it. I believe that covers everything correctly. So, we have to sign it. Stay yet. Um, they do not have to sign it. No, because you're not we're not we're not changing it. I see what you're saying. Correct. Okay. Then we need to take the names off of there then. That works. Yes. Yep. Shred that ordinance. Yep. Okay. Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you for the explanation. Go to We don't have to do anything with it. It's just uh Yeah. confusing. Yes. very I do remember that now that we sent it forward. Chad, I'm not using that motion.

Sorry for that. It's okay. Mine's a whole lot easier. [laughter] Um I'm bringing before you a uh contract for professional services for the MS4 uh that we do uh here in the county. Uh we are required by IDM uh to manage the water quality uh in the county. And so we contract with Christopher Burke Engineering to help us along with that. Uh it's through my uh budget that I have through my professional services. So the contract that is here is not to exceed $20,000 for the year and just looking for approval for that.

I make a motion that we approve the 2026 ongoing SW2 professional service proposal between um Christopher Burke Engineering LLC in Hancock County, Indiana. Uh they will provide assistance as needed with activities associ associated with county's MS4 program not to exceed $20,000.

Second. There's a motion and a second on the floor to approve the contract professional services proposal, the 2026 ongoing SW2 professional services proposal between Hancock County and Christopher Burke Engineering and as presented not to exceed $20,000. All those approved say I

I oppos same sign. Motion approves. uh point of information on this. Um if any of you are so inclined, later today we are having a uh contractor's workshop at the jail um from 11 to 1. I think there's 37 contractors throughout the county who are going to be there. Uh this is a best practices thing to kind of educate them on what we're looking for uh as they're doing things. Lunch will be provided. So uh you're more than welcome to come out and see that. And uh do you want me to take care of my appointment while I'm here? Sarah, if you have the information.

Okay. Well, the only information I have is from the um I am required by state code to either serve on the plan commission or to um appoint someone uh for the plan commission uh for term and I have appointed Dean Fout who is a member of the county uh to serve on plan commission for the next term uh that is there. And is this term a year-long term? I think it's a two-year term. It's a four year term. The four-year term. Yep. Want to go ahead and prove that? We don't have the document. You don't really have to approve it. He approves it.

I'm just letting you know. Yeah. It's by state statute. I have to appoint the person or do it myself. So, I'm just as a formal thing letting you know that that's the person that I'm approving for. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. David Eller Eler. He's not here. He's not here. Okay. Eric Glasco. That'd be the good reason. Morning.

Good morning. Eric Glasco with law firm Stevenson Reich here on Gooden. Uh ground maintenance again. Um just to kind of give you a little bit of background. We've been working on this for about five months [laughter] I think. Um, Gooden uh was interested in building a new office building. They're currently operating out of a house that's a ranch style home is where their offices are. They're wanting to build a an office building there to house their offices. Um, they are what's called a legal non-conforming use. So, their le while while their use is allowed, it's not permitted under the current zoning of the the real estate. So, in order for them to get a building permit, they have to get in line with the the zoning. So, um, working with Kayla, they we requested a reszone and then a use variance to allow the outside storage. Uh, we have a positive recommendation from both the plan commission and the BZA, but both expressed concerns with regard to landscaping along the Penzy Trail. Um, we've we've met with um, Commissioner McDaniel, we met with some people from the engineering department to kind of walk it, talk about what some different options are. Um, after the last meeting, we were asked to draft a proposed commitment. We provided that to your legal counsel to with Kayla or to Kayla as well. I believe that's in your packet to review. Um and that's kind of where things stand, but we are um seeking the ability to reszone and get the uh use variance so that we can build the the office structure in that northwestern part of the parcel.

Kayla, are we good? Was all that done on the Mr. Goodton's property then? Okay. Okay. Yeah, the tree Yeah, the trees will be on Mr. Goodton's property. Yes. Okay. I just had one quick question about it. So, you it looks like um you guys are not going to warranty any trees. Uh but you are going to maintain them for a year.

Yeah. The the main concern there is the the ground composition. There's a lot of that railroad ballast and there's a different opinion between I believe the engineering department and Mr. Goodton on the sustainability of the trees if they're going to last. What he doesn't want to get into is where he's replacing trees every four or six months if they die indefinitely. So, he's going to plant the trees as if he would. He's going to clear them out, put in good soil where he where he excavates for the tree, do a fertilizing uh tablet for that. He's going to water it for a season, which I'm not landscaping, but I take that to mean spring through fall. Um, and then anything that's leaning after one year, he will stake to be upright. But yeah, he's not gonna guarantee.

I I saw that. The only thing about that is it may not give the commissioners any heartburn. But since he's not warranting the trees, not a lot of incentive to make sure they live, you know. Yeah. Other than I, you know, I I just kind of want to relate and I know um Mr. Good expressed this to Mr. McDaniel as well. He does he's not opposed to do he's never really been opposed to doing this. He just likes to do things the right way and he wants to make sure they're going to live. So to that extent, he's going to try to keep them to live because they're going to be on his property and he wants them to look nice and he doesn't want them to fall on his fence or his property or fall on the trail or anything like that. So

and if he wants to that barrier to happen, I think yeah, it would be in his best interest to do everything he could to maintain those to get those to what have they to replace them for a year. Is that what the No, I think that don't have a warranty.

Yeah, we're not doing a warranty. And I think another thing to keep in mind here is there's how far is the setback from the trail there to the the property lines? Is it about 25 30 ft from the trail? The the concern and I believe Commissioner McDaniel raised this at the last one was there's some invasive species there, some briars and other stuff that Mr. Gooden had cleaned out. Those are going to come back because they're not removing those. And I did ask him what what his expectation would be for those for that to grow back up. and he thought by the fall of this year it's going to look as if he hadn't removed anything. And that's going to be between the trees and the trail also. So it's he he he knows very clearly not to get on go on co county property and remove any more of the the vegetation. We've talked about that. So yeah.

So this will be behind that growth as well. Y I'm good. I don't have an issue with I move that we um [clears throat] accept a proposed commitment exhibit B regarding Hancock area planning commission and the Hancock County Board of Commissioners uh the consider reszoning for the Gooden ground maintenance property located at 3859 and 3863 West US40 in Greenfield, Indiana. Uh this would uh make the reszone uh the real estate from commercial neighborhoods CN to commercial community CC.

Second. We have a motion on second to approve the proposed commitment in regard to Hancock County Area Plan Commission. Hancock County Board of Commissioners consideration of a petition for reasonzoning by Good and Ground Maintenance Incorporated as presented. Any further discussion? All those in favor? I I just This is just for the commitment change. It's not the reason change. It's just the change. They'll come back for a reason of the commitment. True. Okay. You guys will come back for the reason, won't you? We're just changing the commitment here.

We're approving of the commitment. The commitment was where we got hung up last time. Um the reason ordinance is prepared and ready. Um but this is not it. This is we're just approving the commit. The reason has to go in front of them right now. The reason has gone to the plan commission, okay, already and received a favorable recommendation, but we're not approving that by signing this. They're not approving the res. That has to come to us first, don't it? Right. All we have is the proposed commitment change for today.

Yeah. I mean, the I've got a draft of the ordinance here and the ordinance actually has the commitment as an exhibit B to that. We don't have the ordinance behind your We have the reason we haven't addressed do that

need a number and so we can approve the we can approve the commitment I think and then we need to to the commitment is approved now we need to approve the actual reason We'd have to approve that. Yeah. For the ordinance to be. So, does my motion stand? Your motion stand approved to approve a commitment. Yes. But we're going to approve the the reason also do a [clears throat] separate motion. Yes. Okay. Good enough. Okay. So, um Good. Did we vote on this commitment? No. because I said I just I want that's right Scott about that. So all in favor to approve the commitment I

I I approve for the commitment. Now we do the approve the resone. Okay. I make a motion that we approve the reszone. Uh the petitioner is filed with uh good and ground maintenance inc from uh community uh commercial neighborhood CN to commercial community CC. You have an ordinance. Does that require an ordinance number? Yeah, it does. No, the ordinance. The uh the reason the reszone now we just approved the commitment and now we doing the reszone.

But we we but did you we don't have we don't have it or you have the ordinance. Did you hand off an ordinance to them? There you go. There we go. Okay. So, and it's 2026-

I did made the motion already. Okay. Second. Well, do also do want introduce introduce the ordinance. Oh, okay. Introduction of ordinance number 2026-2 J-G amending Hancock County uh zoning ordinance number uh 2007-1B uh moving in amending amending the zoning from commercial neighborhood to commercial community CC and then suspend the rules on the day of introduction. Okay. suspend the rules on the day of introduction.

Second all motion to approve or to suspend the rules on day of introductions have been made in motion second. All those in favor I I oppose same sign. Okay. Okay. And then a motion to adopt. All right. uh adopt the ordinance number 2026-2 JSG G adopted this 7th day of February 2026. Second. Okay, we have and there's a typo on there.

We have a motion on the floor to uh amend Hancock County zoning ordinance number 2007-1-1B [clears throat] ordinance number 2026-2-.6. There's dash at the dash. Okay. Uh as presented. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I. I. Oppos. Same sign. Motion passes. Now it's completed. Now the reserve is Thank you very much. Got it. Thank you. Says 2025 on the date which is actually 2026.

Oh, okay. Hancock is misspelled and um has 2025 instead of 2026 on there. So, we're going to hold up for a minute. We'll hold up. Sign it. I mean, but we Okay. Okay. Eric Glasco. Where? That was him. Yep. So, now we're in David Elller. He's still not here. Okay. I make a motion we approve uh claims and payroll. Second. Motion to approve claims and payroll is on the floor. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I. Oppose. Same sign. Motion passes. Nope. Nope. Okay.

Um I move that we approve adding Amplify Monitoring to the contract with Nelson Alarm and an additional cost of $500. And then there's a monthly fee after that. if I'm not mistaken. $35, isn't it? I believe that's what he said. Thank you. I'm almost positive that's what he said. Second.

Okay. There's a motion on the floor to uh accept the sales agreement and the continued modern for uh the uh Amplify uh Hancock building. a quote number 10317 uh for uh initial fee of $500 and a monthly mon monitoring fee of $35 as presented. All those in favor say I. I. I oppose. Same sign. Motion passes.

Two places to sign on that. Okay. to you. You go there. There we go. Oh, that was the agreement. There we go.

Weights and measurements, Mr. That's on the funding only. Oh, just on the funding only. Uhhuh. Um said they were short, $2,617. And then after that was discussed on the trailer, they were um invoiced again uh with another invoice of 83 or $8,398.99. So uh they're short on funds and and that's because we didn't initially know what the trailer was running. So, so is that a total short of let's say $11,000ish dollars or is that just8,000 just the8398.99 isn't it the total shortage

we had asked [snorts] him to go council and ask for food just as 398 we'll send forward to the county council a favorable recommendation to uh fund 8,000 398.98 for the weights and measures treasure uh from food and beverage.

Second. We have a motion and second on the floor to uh uh supplement the shortfall of $2,600 2617 and the purchase of the trailer to a grand total of $8,398.99 with a favorable recommendation to go before council to uh receive this on the floor. Any further disc? The auditor may have a question. I don't know. you do have um $50,000 in your miscellaneous expense on um right above it. So, I thought I'd mention it.

Oh, so we could just approve that here if we want to. Okay. All right. Out of that. Yeah, just make it out of that, M. Then we will I will recall my first motion or you can just amend it just amended it and to include payment from the commissioner beverage 7201. That's 40. Yeah. Did you see right there? Oh, okay. 39890.

There you go. Okay. The motion on the floor is amended to actually go ahead and pay this from from the miscellaneous commissioner's expense from food and beverage. All those in favor? I I oppose same sign. It passed. Okay, [sighs] that's that we have um

amplified dispersement. I make a motion that we approve affidavit for construction fund rein reimbursement request number 21 Argent in Institutional Trust Company in the amount of $15,5395. Second.

There's a motion second on the floor to approve affidavit for construction fund dispersement request number 21. uh in the amount of $15,5395 as presented. All those in favor say I.

I. Oppos. Same sign. Motion passes. Run it too. Don't you? Okay. And the sheriff's equable sharing. [sighs] That's for the cars, isn't it?

Is that what we're talking about?

No, it's not. This is technical sharing agreement and certification. It's an annual certification report. So, we're just accepting that report. So, you Yeah, I just

I'll second. There's sec first and a second on the floor for accepting the annual certification report for the equitable sharing agreement and certification between uh the sheriff and archent. Argent is that what it is? This just a report that he has to do or

annual report just you need just an agree okay uh there's a motion second on the floor to accept the annual certification report equitable sharing agreement for the sheriff county second all those in favor I I a vote sign. Sign can't talk. Motion approved.

Okay, there. And [sighs] did you get that other ordinance printed off? I'm going to have to wipe out that Mr. Cook. All right.

Good morning. Good morning. Second signature page. I want to show her a picture. Oh, okay. All right. Want to show me a picture? Yeah. He sent it to me last night. What is it? Oh, that's in Shelbyville. That's in Shelbyville. Yes. Now, I'll go back. Are you a Shelbyville resident? No. You just saw that and took a picture. Six West and one north.

And what are you wanting us to know? want to know where the proposed data center is going to go at six west and one north and state your name for the record please. Uh Charles E Cook.

Okay. So you're here to tell want to know where this data center is going to go. I don't know that it's going to go yet because we've not had anything brought before us and but there is talk of one going up in the industrial area away from everything. It be around buildings but I it it won't even come before us because let me explain please let me explain it. It it won't come to us because it is an acceptable use in the industrial area. It it but it won't come to us. it just it gets approved. But at the same time, I we have nothing to do with that.

But the surveyor's office will because what I've read, they use a whole bunch of water. So where is that water going to go? [clears throat] If if it were it would come out of Indianapolis. Well, I don't as far as I know, I don't think we have enough really information

to even comment on that. This is something that everybody needs to know because if it goes to Buck Creek then Chad Hancock which is useless my opinion cuz Bucker needs to be cleaned out all the way through Marian County which is impossible to do. I just want to let you aware of it. Okay, we we've heard rumors, but once again, we've had nothing brought before us. There's been nothing signed anywhere at this point in time that I know of.

All right. I just want to let you be aware. We're we're clear. Okay, I'll leave. Thank you so much. Thank you. We have nothing else. Any other comments from the public? Motion to adjurnn. Second. Second. Motion to journ is on the floor. Uh all those in favor say I. I. I. Oppos. Same sign track record so everybody can that is it.