City Council - Regular Meeting

Good evening everyone and welcome to tonight's city council meeting on this Monday, December the 1st, 2025 at 7:02 p.m. Miss Derry, would you call the roll for us, please? Sure. Brown here. Ralph Mer here. Thank you. Tim Terry here. Roger Brainwwater here. Steve Tedford here. Rod Pal here. And there is a quorum. Thank you very much. If everyone would please stand, we'll begin our meeting tonight led by brother Ronnie Dill, 2025 Nike contributor contributor of the year, followed by our pledge of allegiance by Chief Brad Hops. Let's pray together.

God, I want to thank you for tonight. Thank you for the opportunity to to gather together to to discuss and to do business in this community. Lord, I thank you for this community. Thank you for just the blessing of living in a town that has great leadership, great servants. Lord, I thank you for that blessing in this time of year that we're reminded of how grateful and blessed we are. Lord, I pray for tonight's meeting. I pray that Lord, you give wisdom and direction and guidance where it's needed. Again, we're just grateful for for a community, for the freedom that we have in this country, for those that have provided it. Again, we just say tonight ask Jesus name.

Amen. I allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you. You may be seated. Got a lot of politicians in the room. I don't want to I don't know what to say about that other than welcome. Uh I do want to say a couple of things real quick before we get too far into it. I I was notified by Mr. Wade Dunn just moments ago that uh former mayor Judy Selkerk is in is he inospice wait or just gone to the hospital not doing well?

Rehab. Okay. Okay. Okay. So need to remember her and and that family in your prayers. Also Lisa Moore who is the director of the senior citizens here citizen here in town. Her husband passed away a few days ago. So be with and he also the father of uh David Moore who was street department employee. So keep those families in your prayers if you would please. Uh, at this time I would ask the council to consider approving the minutes for the November 3rd, 2025 regular city council meeting. Make that motion. Second. Thank you. Motion second. Mr. Brown, yes. Mr. Maker, yes.

Mr. Terry, yes. Mr. Rainwater, yes. Mr. Tedford, Mr. Pow, yes. Recognitions and acknowledgements. Uh, I don't want to jinx the Bulldogs. I haven't yet. So, but and I've announced it every time. So we they just finished their regular season. Well, not regular uh playoff season here in Greenwood with 77 home wins, right? In a row, sir. Yeah. 77 in a row. 77 in a row. Thank you. Uh so they're heading to headed to uh Little Rock this Saturday, I believe, at 6:00 p.m. 6:30.

6:30 to play I know who it is. Sha Shallow Christian. So that'll be a good game. Uh so anybody all that can attend If you don't, you can listen to this guy here and you can feel like you're right there. I'm This is so big deal for me. I've got voices of Bulldogs in the room with me. I've got this guy up here and then that one back there on PA system. So, uh we're blessed tonight for that. So, uh where am I? Hey, Doug. I got sidetracked. Yes, sir. I also want to recognize the uh high school dance team. Yes, I got it on 1A through 5A. Um Game Day State camp. Awesome. Yep.

Raising money to go to national. Oh, okay. Donate to them directly. Yes. Okay. Yeah, that's great. That that's quite an accomplishment. Cheer team, I think, was second at state. Does that sound right? They'll be competing this weekend. Oh, well. Anyway, okay. So, so says Don Hot Springs. We'll get you an update here in a second. Uh, I think that's all I have as far as u anything else that you know of I don't know. Okay.

A parade coming up. Parade's coming up uh Monday the 8th. Chamber of Commerce Christmas parade. Any information we need to know? really. Oh, okay. What about mules? Can we bring a mule if we have a mule?

I wasn't going there. Okay. Bean F feet is at five on the square. Okay. And regular annual stuff on the square. Casey, I'm pointing at you. Somebody singing and other maybe some bell ringing and stuff like that. So, okay. Good time to be had Monday night hopefully. Second place at something for the cheerleaders.

Okay. Okay, cool. All right, ma'am. Yay, chair. Good job. Uh, committee reports. We have several in your packet or and or your tablet. If you don't have one, if anybody's missing, let us know. We'll get you that information. Get with Danielle. Um, I know I know Kenny's here tonight, so if you got questions, is he?

Kenny's here. He's back there. Uh and again, of course, Lisa, as I mentioned before, Lisa's husband passed away a couple nights ago, so obviously she's not here. Uh citizen forum, we have se four names that have signed up tonight. So, it works like this. Everybody gets as much time as they want except for Mr. Cox. And uh that's a little humor. I tried. I told him I was I told him I was going to make fun of him. So, what you do is you have you come to the microphone, give us your name and address for we have it on the record, and you have five minutes to uh give your your spill to whatever you want to talk about to the council. So, I have Jim Cox up first. What discussing that area of course is that's owned by the And you can see the pink area. That was the original marking point.

He's got you up here, Jim, too. I don't know if you knew that or not. Hunter Hunter did that.

Oh, he moved. He's over here. Those are two partial and als also have the burn. The only thing I want to mention about that Iggrete put in there look like they were just so that you know and I trying to wrap things up for our parents and I know most of you extremely well. And one thing that our mom was 31 and she paid the bills. And if you know her dad, he made the deal. And if there was anything that needed to be done for school district, he was always got together and of course that's when you know of things that we remember discussing with dads that go back to you. So that's what I call the right if you look at well let me give you an idea. So when when we were executing the wheel of and we went down I went down to paid the taxes previous year. So I went down this last and I noticed that there was some little

triangular piece and those taxes have been paid since 1957 that piece of property fact that second page was there going back to the March when I went down. So, is this really our property? So, I did come down to the city hall. So I'm think she basically said well the only way you're going to really find out is if you look at the minutes of the city council that was a month later when I You'll notice again our dad handshake knew him. So you see a price of $10 and then you'll see the date February 199 that's just so my next thing was I came down and actually gave me a call and able to visit

there. So I gave him this information and we talked and you know discussed adverse possession which as far as government entity was private individual that was right next to it then as far as owning properties and the reason that was taken out again just showing you the warranty and then next page over you'll notice me down at the bottom that little piece that tiniece was appraised for 30,8 previously ago when I pulled the information by the way again trying to establish who own the next page it goes from all the way up to you may wonder why it started 2014 the next page you see the all walked along with a surveyor when they did all that stuff.

You're you're about six minutes over.

You're fine. Next page basically just shows the Hunter also show instead of instead of three and so you know our desire is for us to be able to have the old as much as you know when I talked with a group that was meeting in October they said you know that's up to the city council and so that's why here we want to be able to answer questions mayor could we move this to agenda item one because this is obviously going to take some time. They're probably requesting some action

and uh I didn't want to do that anyway, but I was going to wait and see. Let's go on through citizens form and unless I make a motion we move him to new business. So that would be number three. We're just going to shift everything else down. Not required because we can add things. We had something down for Zack. Zack Johnson is not here. I don't see him. Is that correct? on on the item. Anybody see him? Unless he's hiding. I'm gonna handle it. So, we don't need to do his first because of him not being here. Okay. So, so we're just going to go through and come back this other because there's

So, you and now at that time you get 30 seconds. We didn't take that. Now, you got all the time. You did good.

Perfect. All right. Uh Okay. Oh, I'm sorry. Let me move back to where I'm supposed to be here. Uh, next on the list, Mr. Dunn, you'll come up and I'm running for state. I'm married years. I'm a Republican and I believe I want to lower taxes. When I ran three years ago, the most read And for those seniors who have lived.

So I want to I want to lower taxes to those seniors. In order to do that businesswise, That's what I was think. So in this scenario, Franklin County is opposed to that. I appreciate city.

That's just not so related business to be honest. new laws and regulations to make it easier for business. They told I'm very excited.

Thank you, sir. Thank you. Appreciate you. Thank you, Mr. D. Uh, next on the list is Miss Buckley. Horses are a big part of my life. Still are grew up. practice law school children domestic violence and those kind of things that I tried I also worked for right after law school attorney. A big part of my work and so on, human things like that. A big part of my work and that combined security

I actually have stood very similar to this courte United States of law that made requirements for sex offenders that I started a family and so traveling so much became difficult. practice with my husband and so we've been practicing together and that's where you have your trials. I have my husband and I live not too far from here. worked at the courthouse for many years. Most people think that they'll never end up inter that you might end up in circuit court.

And so that's why I think the work that is done there is so important and I think it is really I was really honored this past week I was I just have a statement. I'm a former dandy as well. So that's cool. I have a question. Do you still have a horse? I do.

On behalf of the chamber, I apologize. You can't ride in the preor anyway. Okay. Anything from council? Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate your time. Thank you. Uh, Miss Smith, you're

Hey everyone, my name is Stacy Smith. I am a long time ressu in and out of state houses in the south and you know you get to learn a lot about how to make the to be honest. And you get to learn about the good in the communities and and how to improve them and and just how to get back into those communities that that we serve for all those years. I'm proud of that knowledge. I'm proud of those lessons. living down and I had five years at home and we absolutely did not want to move and we were lucky enough to land a new role at the gas company for 75 years there. I get to do a work along with community engagement and um I have a team that goes out to six states that gives back to communities in a through sponsorship and charitable giving and volunteer efforts. It's really truly a great organization where you get to work side by side with these hardwork people. And as far as advocacy, I've learned so much about environmental and uh just new ways new exciting ways renewable gas and here in Fort Smith is what kept us going in 2021 for winter and I just I can't

believe that that much gas came out of that land. So it's a very exciting time to be in the natural gas. I'm running because I knew Bill here in Greenwood very many many times. Um, one of the things I did on a level and something I was very passionate about is I worked at the city's recycle center on those uh one Saturday once a month for four hours. I coordinated a group called Team Green where I I got the Boy Scouts and the Girl Scouts and a lot of the organizations in the school together, the cheerleaders, the um the club, Miss Gags was one of my greatest um you know, partners getting those kids out there and we recycle and often times I would ask for uh state lawmakers to come out and join us and be there for the kids. um came out. We had Senator Bruce Holland at the time. I'm thinking I'm aing myself. Um we had Crawford came over. She was our representative at the time. And these kids got to engage with lawmakers and learn about giving back to the community. We worked numerous hours out there and I'm super proud and I truly truly enjoyed it until you have hired person now. Um, which is great and I still go there. Uh, lastly and I raised three Eagle Scouts with some others on here. We are super proud of our our boys. They gave back to the parks and recreations and looking at that map. I think we some trails around that Greenwood Lake. We're very very proud of that and we hike those areas as a family. So, um I feel that uh the

River Valley is this great place to to live and I want to um have my grandchildren experience what my kids experience and I feel that with my knowledge of how laws and and you know all of the government work that I've done would be a good I do want to add that our election got turned up. I've been door knocking like a fool and nobody knows the election. It's in a month and it's going to be the only thing on the ballot. So let January 6. Any questions,

council? Thank you very much. Appreciate you. Thank you. Thank you all for coming tonight and giving your time to us and and answering questions and being introducing yourself. So, thank you so much. Uh I skipped a little something while ago I need to do real quick. Mr. Pervvis, would you come up for just a second for me, please? I don't This is not my job to do this, but I'm going to do it anyway. Uh well, I guess it is.

It is my job. So recently there was the best river best of the best in the river valley in Fort Smith if you're familiar with that great event wonderful dinner is not there to get this I'm going to present it to you sir congratulations and I'm going to present myself why don't you come up and Okay. Best of the best place to live. It doesn't say the best place to live. It just says place. So, we'll take credit.

Hold your anything to get the picture. I see. Okay. So, we will move on and next on the agenda is a financial report. You're standing between Jim Cox and us. So, Jim, however you want to handle that. How do you follow that?

What I want to start out month of November previous month of November tax was up 3.35% As far as the advertising promotion, these numbers are adjusted. report out because of this early. So we updated this to reflect The actual changed

we'll support next%. 14.3% and I'll show you the other experience change. I will show you that we did rebates another month of large months only about $600. So I kind of ended up considered what it does by looking at the amount that was distributed 14.38%

and that still is a 13.21% So that's an issue that millions. Now when you look at the whole year which is this bottom through the amount of distributed basis. That's different because all this is all tax adjust. That's 5.3 million taxates. something to be said about September sales tax up% entire year now. county sales tax as well as county based

sales both city and county sales That's the look at the advertising. This is the amount that was collected so far include all the receipts that came in was Look at the individual. You see down to know what the projection is in order for them to hit their 4% growth. They would have to remaining two months to change because not just As far as cash flow is concerned for the city

of November 53,000 year increase in cash was almost done. current800 that is a decrease in fund balance 23.2% Don't get alarmed because you look at capital expenditures. The last thing in this report is the capital improvements for city. That's 47.42% compared to previous of the month% as far as city capital is concerned their budget was almostion broke out.

Thank you, Tom. spend your money in Greenwood, Arkansas. We need it. We need to sell sales tax revenue. You know, shop shop local.

While we've got some state people here that are running for state jobs, you can see the construction rebates are killing us. Now, the Little Rock guys kept their money, took it away from us. You know, it used to be a tenant of the Republican party for local control. That would be really really nice if the Republican party get back to that tenant because I know both y'all are up running as Republicans. So that's that's a killer those construction rebates. We're putting up with all the disaster and all the problems and they're jerking all the money back. But not the state guys, not Little Rock. They're living large off the money that we collect and we're we're dealing with the we're dealing with the bad stuff. So

I was reading article just recently that Louisiana and Texas both participate in the rebate in the uh the rebates. Arkansas is one of the few states in this area that does not participate. And so we're the the counties and local municipalities are paying all of this rebate and and it makes it really tough to figure out when sales tax are coming in and when those rebates are going to hit. And it it's it's not just a drop in sales tax. It's also making it very unpredictable for us to plan. So it's really a burden stuff. Okay. Anything else from council?

Thank you. Probably shouldn't say anymore. Do what? I probably shouldn't say. Oh, hey, it's time to say it. Time to say it. Thank you, Mr. Marsh. Uh, agenda additions. We do have two if the council would allow these. We got number eight, uh, which is an update on I49. We have a little short video we want to show you later. I think Sunny's going to kind of initiate that for us here in a little while. And, uh, and then number nine is a budget extension resolution finance. Everybody's okay with those two. Yes. We have also in planning, we have an ordinance put on there for permit fee schedule. Okay. Get that one. That's 10. 10 or 10? 10. Yes.

And then of course 11 is Jim Cox's property issue. No, that's that's 11. Yeah. 11 up the top. You have to stay for four hours. What? It's already on there. Okay. Cox Stewart is number one, right? Okay. Okay. Uh moving on. So, number one is Yes, sir. You're up. Uh, I think you've said I mean, you can say anything more you need to say. I think council uh this is Ro's idea.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What questions andor what what would you like my my question would be just not to kind of get things going. How what would you like to see us do about this for you or with you? I think is the We'd like Right. Okay.

Circumstances. Sure. I said I went through all kinds of figure

we're talking about. Okay. If I may just to clarify for the council's purpose if I'm understanding correctly, your you or your family has been paying the taxes on that 1.78 acres since 1990 when it was actually deed to the city. Is that correct? Well, from from the time they had the propert.

Exactly. And the reason for that was because we buffer around the lake. But your you or your family continued to pay the taxes on that all these years, the last 3 Well, how did you only paid once? You said it yourself. I just had to make that point. I just I didn't know if everybody heard that or not. I just didn't know if everybody understood what that was the big question.

So, we're talking about the triangle, right? Yes. and and they've been paying taxes since 1957. That's correct. But at some point, Hton's he it become the city's Yes. But you continue to pay sales sales tax I mean real estate tax. Now what's the 3.4 acres? That's the that's the area that's been fenced since I know the middle.

It's about 20 ft. road that goes down as far as Is that y'alls or the cities? So it belongs to the city right now clearly. So that clearly belongs to the city. So the but the 7 the triangle you you would like to do a swap and clear it all up.

So if a swap So if a swap was made we have to maintain that 300 ft. So we get that 300 ft back. Correct. And then also there's the dam is right there at some point. We're pro most likely going to need that area for construction. Unless y'all have looked at the dam different than the way I've looked at it. Triangle area. I'm talking about the triangle. Yes.

That would be where you would probably bring in some construction stuff. So, if we don't deal with it now, we'll be dealing with it later. Uh then it may be a lot more costly. Like everything's more costly for us. The way So it's okay.

So which which line represents the 300 foot the blue the whole the whole blue because it's from the shoreline technically wherever that shoreline happens to be I guess it's kind of weird

triangle clearly lies completely within the 300 and the other one lies outside the 300 I think it's also important for the council understand that believe that they felt like that was theirs all this time. They've been maintaining it and holding it out as theirs because we didn't know about the dem swap to me. Y that's what we kind of talked about briefly in our meeting or one or both of those meetings and

I was just curious what do the purple lines represent? Okay. Now, is this something you're looking to develop? Okay. I'm just curious. Well, if all you're looking for is a motion, I'll make a motion that we get the paperwork started and swapping these two pieces of property. I'll second. Put a motion in a second. And and this doesn't impact our the buffer. It fixes that we're not in compiance at all. Is that

And there's no money involved, right? M. Yes, sir. Mr. P.

Go ahead. Mr. Quest with with this property swap to say of record. Yes. Yes. But they've been playing. So we're wanting I think I think it's more about relinquishing claim us. They they would quit claim us. They would quick claim us the triangle piece. We would deed them the other piece. Although the triangle piece is in our name, they could have a claim to it because they've possessed it and been paying the taxes on it for the last 35 years,

which the city would be exempt from. So there's a hang up there is that it was our property. Now what this adverse possession is mainly talking about people that are trying to take over things by city government.

I'm just kind of saying the city probably wouldn't have paid those taxes because we're exempt from property taxes, but they shouldn't have them either, right? So there's an amount of money there that really shouldn't have ever gone to the county. The county does Oh, the county does. You're just saying nobody should have been paying tax. So, if you want if you want to go and pay us what you paid. You like the motion on the floor? I don't want I don't want to muddy it for you, Mr. Cox. Dr. Cox, sorry. I forget that sometimes. Uh, okay. So, we do have a motion to say I mean, open discussion for sure. I just had one question. Yes, sir.

Um, that 3.4 four acres. I mean, that's right next to the gun range. I mean, that's not going to be adverse toast.

Where's the burn pile? Yes, sir. Okay. Not in either one of these. For some reason, I had it in the corner of that. Okay. buts but that but the burn pile is on or burns area. Okay. Okay. Okay. I got I love your drawing. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

Question. You briefly mentioned some trash right there by the gun range tiles or something burnrete unless you drive up there. That's a concern. people know dumping stuff. We're better neighbors than that. Are they Are they broken or they just look like

Some were, some weren't. And And then I did notice the previous If you uh if that doesn't get cleaned up in the next few weeks, if you'll send me pictures the next council meeting, I'm gonna put them right up here and we're going to have a deeper conversation about being better neighbors. So, if Doug leaves town for two weeks and the assistant mayor becomes mayor, she'll have it cleaned up in 24 hours. Guaranteed.

Oh, here we go. We didn't know about it until you just said it. When I say we, I had no idea until you just told me. So, we're good. That's That would be a great idea. The only one that's not here tonight is the person It's probably his department that took it up there. Well, nobody nobody knew about it. Okay. There's no question we'll get cleaned up. It doesn't send me pictures and they're going to be up here next meeting and we'll have a lot deeper conversation. Oh, we voted.

Mr. Plumber, sorry. He's asking how the deed would read.

Then if it's all of you, then you got to start over. Is that what you're trying to internal fighting? Yeah, exactly. We had to sign this last Monday because we can later figure out what you guys need. So, so to be clear, it's a quick claim on the 1.7 acres piece and a red deed or deed over the 3.4 acres. Yes. Okay. That's the And do they have a a means of getting refunded for paying all those taxes? Is that okay? All right.

It wouldn't be a cost to us. It' be the county. County. So feel free to pursue. Well, they shouldn't have if it's in our name. We don't pay those taxes and you shouldn't have. I mean, that's a the family shouldn't have. That's a Yeah,

it's got the wrong number. So they would have paid taxes. Okay. I can't I understand that. Yeah, we're planning on keeping he was deemed employee of the month this morning. So

year, sorry. Yeah, we need we need a vote. Call. Yes, please. Mr. Brown, yes. Mr. Terry, Mr. Mer, yes. Mr. Cherry, Mr. Rainwater. Yes. Mr. Tedford, Mr. Powell? Yes. Thank you, sir. Oh, the whole thing. I'm contact Mr. for the rest of it. Yes, sir. Thank you, Mr. Dunn. Thank you all. Tell we did it for Janet. That's Tom. We can check that microphone. We did it for Janet. Janet in Virginia. We did it for Virginia and Janet. Did you hear that? How? We did it for Virginia and Janet was on. Yeah.

Despite Despite these two and yours wasn't on either.

Okay. Uh we are Do you want to do what Z? Okay. Regular time. Okay. So, number one on unfinished business is a city attorney resolution adopting citywide AI policy tabled from previous meetings.

So, this was tabled from last month. Mr. Pal had or excuse me, Mr. Maker had some suggestions. I think we addressed those. If you look in section five, we change that to read only AI tools authorized by the city's IT committee may be used. business and that organization that we use as a IT consultant or they are part of that committee. Yes. And believe we've already reached out to them to see what we could and could not use already. But that was really the only change besides the strike in section 10 where we change department. Is that correct?

Yes. Oh, and one little change on the third page. Yeah, the last page we added that would be incorporating the city's personal policy handbook as well. Yes. And we're going to strike the ordinance and put resolution there right before that. Replace ordinance with resolution. Yeah, it just says ordinance. It's just t I make a motion we approve this resolution. Second. Have a motion and a second to approve. Mr. Brown. Yes. Mr. Maker. Yes. Mr. Terry. Yes. Mr. Rainwater. Yes. Mr. Tford. Yes. M. Yes.

Thank you. Uh, number two, city attorney repeal replace ordinance number 23-17, private club permitting on the second reading. Now, as I understand, this is just to get us in compliance with the uh state statutes.

That's correct. So, we originally had our tax levy would be 10% on beer and then beer and wine, excuse me, and then 14% on mixed drinks. According to states last statute, we levy half of what the state levies. So we reduce that to five and 7%. I believe we add we add the application for yes we added in

application as exhibit A. So anybody that wants to apply this application is on file as exhibit A for this ordinance. Yeah. Before it was about the by resolution and it was way out there separate from the ordinance. It was really hard to find more housekeeping. Yes. Okay. So question the state now says a that a forprofit may have the right of a uh what is the term I'm looking private club.

Private club. Now, is this something that I mean this is this is a state is it requiring us to do that or can the city be more restrictive and say we don't want a private entity to have the same ability as a No. So, it's it's we can't be more restrictive. Um excuse me. We can't be less restrictive. We can be more restrictive.

We can be more restrictive, but the state has opened it up to any for-profit individual, you know, corporation, LLC, or whatever to be able to apply. Basically, what they did away with was the requirement to have the nonprofit organization. The 501c3 has been elim eliminated. It's been eliminated, but that's not addressed with this ordinance anyway. Okay. Everything in here still applies to the procedures and your taxation. Everything is still neatly wound up. Correct. Okay. So with the ordinance as it is, are we saying that a forprofit can operate with alcohol inside the city limit of Greenwood by considering this ordinance?

Uh this ordinance doesn't address that point. But do we need to address that at some point in here? State law anymore. So we wouldn't want to put in here. State law says a nonprofit is not necessary anymore. Is that what you're talking about? The nonprofit? Well, I'm I'm just saying that that today we don't allow the sale of alcohol inside the city limits. Is that correct?

Okay. Now, they're eliminating the So, so is that still the case in Greenwood or has that changed as a result of the state's change? That's what I want to clarify. Everything's pretty much the same except if you recall when Laf Fiesta, I don't know if you were even up here when that went down. I've heard that's and that's why I'm asking they had an LLC that they kind of pulled out of the sky and that was kind of a drawback for some folks. Yeah. And so they don't have to have that anymore. And by the way, it doesn't we're not even no matter what you pass is not saying they can sell it means they can apply

to the ABC. to give permission to said profit organization to apply to the ABC once the council once the council approves that ABC this is what they need to get the ordinance to go before the ABC because the only thing you can have in a dry county is a private club and we are still a dry county okay so the only thing your only option is a private club but you can be a restaurant But before you used to have have a 501c3

which could have been and there's one lawyer in Little Rock that had these all prepackaged up and it was all a sham and that way you keep the two below gentleman's club from being our 501c3 because it's obviously a sham. So they would be applying as a forprofit business rather than having to but it doesn't change anything the way Greenwood handles alcohol currently. Correct. Okay. We don't have

just splits the taxes in half. Then what about the $1,500? Is that still legit or is that a problem with the state law or is that something we do? That's us doing it in excess of what the state wants. what the minimum the state is required which is which is our prerogative. Well, but what we mainly did with this was correct the percentages of tax collected. Right. We were definitely

when I presented that I just the municipally wrote that no the municipally wrote that yes not David who was the one that started Well, he didn't start it before. Yeah, he's older. He's dead. That's Don. That's Don. Yeah, Don Zimmerman. Mark Hayes is a director now, but Yes. Okay. I was getting those two confused. Yeah, it was Don Zimmerman.

Say whoever it was. So, Charlotte, if somebody's wanting to come get one of these applications, which is now exhibit A, they come in here to go to you. Yes. Okay. I was asked right before I got here and I told them to come see you tomorrow. They come in and Yeah. I'll go through it with them and I give them a copy of this ordinance so they know all the instructions and we should all be there, but I'm okay. Able to answer questions. I don't mean to start something that's not started, but is there a question from someone out there about the fee being different for a nonprofit? Am I all? No. This person didn't even know this even existed.

Okay. They were ra about not being able to have a private club. I said, "Well, you certainly can. It's been on the books for 10 years." Okay. The change in the in the taxation, right? That's what I told. Now, where did that come from? You you've just poured through state law and found out that we were too excessive by law. Is that right? Actually, we were in we were in review. Uh what were we looking at in the cification committee? And committee we caught it in there. So Don Zimmerman was wrong. Somebody over there. Maybe some of his clerks did or it's changed.

Yeah. And it's been years ago. So it's changed. He was either wrong or it's changed. I would be reluctant to say that Don Zimmerman was wrong. So it must have changed. Okay. That's my on the exhibit A uh where it says annual permit renewal cost $1,500. And it says initial permit if applied for by July 1st 750. Should that be after July 1st? Kind of No, I was just looking at that and and why it's like that. Um, we've talked about this before though.

There's something in state law about the costs. It's about It's on this exhibit A on check page eight um up at the very top. You can see that's our cost of this thing. You would think so that it would be cheaper in the latter half of the year, which is what you're pointing out, Mr. Brown. Right. Like if somebody come in in August, it should be right. Like half a year prorated. Yeah. Pro. I would even think it should be prorated to month to month. We need to look into that. I don't know if it's correct or not correct.

Well, that was the whole reason because those I think the last people tried it came in afterwards. It didn't seem fair to have to pay a full year of the initial year. Now when January one gets here, you owe 1,500. It's something in the states. They paid that at the time. Yeah. We've since refunded that so they can start over and not We don't need to be holding their check. I make a motion that we adopt this resolution on the second reading uh with the clarification on exhibit A about the 750 versus 1500. But it's it's an ordinance. Put it on second reading by title only with that

ordinance. Excuse me. Yes. Second pending that exhibit A. We have a second. Yes, sir. Second, Mr. Brown. Yes. Mr. Maker. Yes. Mr. Terry, Mr. Rainwater, yes. Mr. Tedford, yes. Mr. Pal, yes.

Unanimous. An ordinance repealing and replacing ordinance number 23-7 establishing a permitting process and privilege permit for selling or dispensing any controlled beverage within a private club within the city of Greenwood by businesses licensed by the state as a private club to sell alcoholic beverages. Levying permit fees and a city supplemental tax of 5% of beer, wine, and 7% of mixed drinks upon the annual gross receipts which are derived there from repealing any ordinance in conflict here with therewith establishing penalties for the violation of these provisions and for other purposes. It is read. Thank you.

Okay. Thank you very much. Uh moving on to number three under new business. I got a little carried away ahead of myself on this one. I'm going to pull this or table this for a while. Meaning uh the celebration is not until next year. Uh we wanted to make sure that we get our ducks in a row on this with cooperation historical society's already on on board with us. The chamber of course and the city of Greenwood will all get together and plan a big shindig. Uh this the date of our 175 years is March the 10th. We will celebrate more than likely on the 7th because that's a Saturday. Is that right, Bob? So I'm going to table it for now. You want

just withdraw it? Yeah, we'll draw if that's okay with council. I'm going to withdraw it and we'll talk about it in a couple of months or so. So plenty of time to do. And as you know, so we're celebrating 175 years next year and the country is celebrating 250. So we don't want to Okay, cool. So we'll table or remove it and we'll go on and get ready to plan our celebration. What was it? March what? Uh we it's the date that we are officially 175. It's the 10th, but we'll celebrate on the 7th. So on Saturday or that's the plan thus far. I'll find out when my daughter's wedding is we'll adjust.

Okay, we'll adjust. Tell your daughter she may make a difference in our 175 years depending on when she wants to get married. Or we could celebrate the day of the the wedding. That'd be awesome. We just have her wedding at the at at the celebration. Yeah, absolutely. Well, that be a lot cheaper. I know there's already things being planned, reenactment and things like that. So, we'll make a big deal. Uh number four, finance director 2024 legislative audit report. Tom promised us this morning. These are both 30 second reports. Is that what you said? 30 minute reports. That's what you said. More like 45 now. Okay. Okay.

Sit back, relax, and enjoy this riveting presentation you've all been waiting for.

It is the results of the 2024 audit. You are going to get both of them, both the water sewer audit report and the legislative audit tonight. I'm going to just hit the highlights on it. I believe on your tablets you actually have the audit report. I gave you some additional uh papers that were loose on your at your place that is pertaining to the water sewer audit. We'll get to that next. So, if you just put that aside, those are the reports that don't go with the actual submitted audit. uh they are management letters and management information only and they're not normally for general distribution. That's why they're separate. Um so the first thing I wanted to do is I want to give I'm going to move this over because I'm not looking at what you're not looking at. There we go. Make it from the All right. So I'm just going to highlight a few things from the audit reports. If you have a question, when you go through and peruse those uh on a night when you can't sleep um and you really have nothing else to do, go through that audit report with a fine tooth comb. Some of the things that you come up with that are questions that I can most likely give you some answer for. Please feel free to give me a call or come by the office. That would be fine. uh if it's something that I need to get some further explanation on as far as what was entailed in the actual workpaper document from the auditor themselves I can do that as well. So if there's any additional information from what is not presented here but I'm going to try to give you the things that I think are more gerine and important for you to hear and see from the 2024 audit for legislative audit. I will tell you that this year we had asked them for the last four or five years to accelerate when they come to the city to do the

audit. In the past, we were getting pushed way back in the year. So, for instance, the 23 audit wasn't even started until September of 24 and it didn't end until December 18th when we finally got the report. So we're we asked them if they could maybe put us in the first or second quarter of the year and they did. They accommodated us in 25. So the 25's um report was issued in August and um or at least we got the wrapup in in August and the final report just came to us. We are required to present it to the council at the very next city council meeting from when the report was issued. So that's why you're getting it now. Um so this would be the first thing I wanted to point out. It was an unmodified opinion as we've had consistently year after year. Uh there we the statements that were prepared and the information that we provided to them represents fairly in all material respects the regulatory financial position of the general fund, street fund and other funds in the aggregate of the city of Greenwood. Key is I'm not mentioning water sewer because they do not audit that. the responsibilities of management in the financial statements. We're responsible to present for the preparation rather and fair presentation of the financial statements and in preparing the financial statement management that would be us required to evaluate whether there are conditions or events considered in the aggregate that raise substantial doubt about the city's ability to continue as a going concern. They do audit that. They do ask every single one of us in in the positions of management or leadership including the mayor and sec the um Charlotte and myself whether we have some going

concern issues for the year andor there shortly thereafter and one of the things they look at is trends and I've been showing you some of the negative trends so they're going to be looking at that a little more closely in the future to see what our u response to those negative trends are as I just pointed out in our financials. So that's one of the things I wanted to point out. As far as internal control, they report on the internal controls and they give you a definition of deficiency. Our consideration of internal controls was limited purpose that was described. It says given these limitations during our audit, we did not identify any deficiencies in internal control that we consider to be material weaknesses. So that's actually fairly decent as far as the report is concerned because they do point out some weaknesses, but we have mitigating controls. So they they allow that as long as they understand that we're a kind of a lean and mean machine when it comes to some of the financial aspects and in our departments. So they understand that uh utopia segregation of duties is not necessarily something that we could achieve. And then we have to work around with mitigating factors. As far as the this is a report that comes out, this was 2023's report. The reason I'm showing you this is because of there was an audit finding that was a supplemental finding in 2023's fiscal year end report. that's was involving the mayor's office and it said the city did not solicit bids for the purchase of a parks department truck in the amount of 40,980 in non-compliance with Arkansas code 1458303. Well, there was a reason for that. There was a miscommunication and misunderstanding regarding the parks department at that time and whether the uh purchase was made from what they consider to be a um

a car dealership that won the the contract and had accepted or won the bid andor whether they could um honor or buy that truck. Bottom line is there was some there was some circumstances that caused that to only be a supplemental. The purchase of the vehicle was in line with what the state bid was, but the actual vehicle wasn't the vehicle that was under the state bid. So that's why it was supplemental. Now, I just told you that the audit for 23, if you look down at the very bottom, that's why I put this on the screen. This didn't come to us as a finding until December of 2024. In 2024's audit, however, there's a management letter, and in the management letter, you'll see another mayor finding. This is a reportable and it says the city did not solicit bids for the purchase of a street department truck in the amount of 61,000 in non-compliance with Arkansas code. A similar finding was noted in the prior report kind of implying as though we thumbed our nose at the initial finding of the previous year. However, the purchase of the street department what happened there? The purchase of the street department truck was purchased February of 2024. The audit didn't even start until May. And that tw that 2024 uh February, May of this year is when our audit for 24 started. That purchase occurred before we even knew about the 23 issue. So we there's no way that we could have fixed that by the time the audit came in and did their audit. I'm I'm surprised that that didn't get caught in a supplemental or a subsequent event review. Um, it did not. And so, it's not that we ignored the response

that we did to the 23 audit. It's that we didn't know about this. It had already occurred until now. But we have put procedures in place to eliminate that from happening in the future. And you guys are well aware of that. So, that'll be the one of the responses that will be given to Little Rock. Well, well, I guess what are the procedures that we put in place?

I I'll I can share that with you. I don't have that response, but we presented our responses to that finding to the um audit senior, I think her name was the one that's in charge, the manager on the audit, she was here to actually present that finding and we have to respond immediately. We get about a week in order from when we get the actual findings to give the response. And they were satisfied with that. I I'll I'll send you a copy of that. But we did budget for that truck. Yes, you did. It has nothing to do with whether it was budgeted. It has to do whether you bid it out.

And to answer respond to your your question, Mr. Brown. One of the not that what he got written down but a one of the procedures is they get reminded every single month now at department head meetings to follow instructions and guidelines on state business state business that should also be one of your first questions if it's over a certain dollar amount is is this required to go out for bids and I'm hearing that a lot more now from from you and not to accept the well uh we we're purchasing it from the state bid They'll prove it. Show it to me. Two trucks not bought of state bid.

Um I just told you about the parks and and you're asking the wrong person. You need to be asking the people who did that. I'm the one that wasn't in the pool that the bid had available as far as

they they didn't win the state bid. They had it previously and and they were following the lead of the police department who had already purchased some from a state bid for their cars from Superior up in Northwest Arkansas. Come to find out, Red River had now won the award and that wasn't verified and that's one of the reasons why. But um 2023, we didn't even know about the 2023. We should have. That's an issue. But we didn't know about it as a finding until 24, the end of 24. July is when they purchased that truck for parks. Did February is when they purchased the street truck. July of 23, February 24. The 24 audit didn't come to us. Uh 23 audit, excuse me, didn't come to us until the end of 24. So th those two had already happened. That was a that was water under the bridge. we we anticipated this was going to happen and it ended up happening. So, um it's not like we just ignored them and we wrote a finding and it it'd be different if we wrote the response in like January and then in February we went out and bought a truck and didn't go into state bid. Then we didn't follow our our response is what I'm saying.

That's just kind of what it looks like. It does, but now when you see the timeline, you know that's not what happened. So, both trucks were budgeted Both trucks were not bought off state bid. They I guess the question was they were competitively bid. No, they were not competitively bid. If you buy from what is legitimately the award the state bid contract, you don't need to bid it. So to have made that correct, they the council would have waved competitive bidding. That wasn't done. Yeah. And that was not done on either one.

Correct. But the prices were similar. They weren't far apart right from the state. This one? No, the the other one was right in line. It just wasn't the right. It has to be with no additional add-ons. It has to be the stock, whatever that bid is. It has to be the exact same make, model, year, and yeah, go right ahead. Trucks Correct. That was for 23. So he was in line

and that's why it was a supplemental. It didn't go to a a reportable. This became a reportable because it was that a similar finding was noted in a prior report. That's why it became a reportable. So, I'm just saying that technically in the 23's audit, if they had audited subsequent events in February of 2024, both of those would have been written in the 23's audit. And it wasn't. It was a timing issue based on when they did the audit and what their sample selected as far as these reviews. Can we possibly review that process in the next meeting?

Let's just do that. add it to the next. Yeah, that'd be a good idea. Just to make sure we understand that process. Also remember that when you're looking at it in the budget and they're coming up and they're making these purchases, the onus would be on you guys. You're the last cap, last stop in making sure that that process is followed and that's in our finalist. I mean, our response. So, we're kind of everybody's got a part to play in this and you're our stop cap. I don't know of it listed in anything we have written in any policy really either to require them to do that directors and I you know they don't I don't think you can get told it when they're hired. I don't know. Oh, they get told

when they're hired they do. Yes, ma'am. Oh, anyway. Um the ones I've hired that doesn't mean they follow through, but they get told by the way I'm the I'm the bearer of the bad news. I'm not the responsible guy at you. So, but you you do seem to have the answers. This had this has this guy's name on it. I know. Well, thanks. You're welcome. I didn't say you my name. By the way, everything is the mayor because I am responsible for all things. Correct. That's why. And you know, it's And not to throw me back under the bus because you're not. That was that was the parks and now it's the street and I get to go to Little Rock. Right.

So bottom line is it's really in terms of finances, it's immaterial. Correct. Correct. And you know, so we got the truck we wanted for the price we wanted, but there's a list of the people we should buy it from and they were on the list that year. Is that correct? You don't have to buy it from the state bid board. If you approve that and he wants that Silverado truck instead of a Ford, then you can approve that, but you have to wave the bid if you deem it necessary or do the bid. Yeah. Correct. Yeah. And just for my sake, I don't sign checks.

Just so you know, for the people do sign the checks. Can we not make sure that policyy's followed? Well, there's no policy on that necessarily. That's what we're working. Well, there is policy. There's policy from the state. That's why you got to go explain yourself to the state of Arkansas. Yeah. The state of Arkansas says you will buy them off of pre-qualified purchases, you know, that they've done by the state if you have the budgetary. If not, you can wave competitive bidding. Now, that's in state law. and that did not happen. Correct. So, we don't need any policy restating what the state law has already said.

I concur with that. So the $61,000 pickup in street department, we had talked about that in budget and we had appropriated that money. And that truck is here today and resides in the street department and is used in what capacity? You're looking at me truck. I couldn't tell you. It's in the street department. Yeah. Who's J? Yeah, it's it's a it's a city. It's a street truck. I'm not sure which one.

Well, maybe it'll Maybe you can load it up with the trash that we've dumped out there by our neighbors out at the lake. Okay, we're we're we're tandling that. Yeah. Just also remember this happened over a year and a half ago. This was not a recent purchase. This did not recently happen. That's why I was trying to give you the timeline. This is something that happened over a year and a half ago. It happened in February of 24. We're now going into 26. So hopefully since then we and I'm pretty sure we don't. We do not have any more of these issues. Oh yeah. So

we also have four check signers. Myself, Tom, Tosie, and Casey. So two of them have to sign every check. Well, like I would think the check signers ought to be partially responsible. You look at them. I think we all have a little I think we all have a little at the time already fingers anybody in particular. We're all saying this happened. We're going to fix it. I'm the last one that wants to go to Little Rock. It's not a fun trip. I've been once before in my in my career and it's

it's not the key is nothing of this was intentional. This this is not something that we thumbmed our nose at. This is something that was an issue that has been addressed and we're just going to have to go explain that to them. That's what your five minutes of fame or something and it'll be on the next decide to keep me. So it was it wasn't malicious. I'm not arguing with that. There may have been some slide incompetence, maybe some slide inepness and we've got that handled. I think that's why I agree with Steve to bring up kind of discuss the policy at the next budget meeting or at council meeting. Is that right? The state's policy is fine. I think just be everybody just be refreshed on it. Refresher.

Yeah. Well, you can do that. Talk about January's always. Okay. Well, that wasn't the controversial part. All right. Can we move on? Yes. Okay. One other question.

Okay. So, I'm trying to figure out I'm making sure I understand how this is working the administration because we're talking about the administration doing this, which is the mayor. So, you delegate responsibility to department heads and we're saying these are the department heads doing this. is what you're saying. They're they're contracting on behalf of the administration, behalf of the city of Greenwood when they go to purchase one of these things. And you you are addressing this in meetings. Yes. Okay. Yes.

Okay. All right. I'll say anything else. Yes, we do. I take responsibility if that's what you want me to say because it is my responsibility. Yeah, I think you have to take responsibility. That is and I've never not taken the responsib. Okay. I'm not sure what the deal is. I think he's probably asking is it getting written down in a personal file or something like that? I don't know how. Is that what you're asking

me? No, it's just It's happened one year. It happened another year. I understand the little the several month deal. It just needs to quit happening. That's the plan. That's our point. That's the plan. Okay. Yeah. Good. And we won't see this next year. Yeah. I really want to say something else, but I think I'm not going to because I don't think it's There you go. You know, I would say that in the budget when you pass it and you see a truck in there, you should put the model number down and put beside it what the state bid amount is and say,

if you go back and look at the discussions during the budget study session, the one of you, I don't know who it was, but if you go back to the minutes, you'll find it. uh actually said 61,000 and you questioned that amount for that truck because it was a four it was a dual and it was multiple passenger it was a big truck and you you asked is this requiring a bid and the response was I'm getting it off the bid board. So you were told it was a state bid and we were led to believe that but that's not where that truck came from and they didn't even have a Silverado on it. I had lengthy discussions with the auditor on this. So, um, so is that

there are no minutes on that, by the way. I don't do minutes on set, but I do have the recording. Okay, the recording. That just makes me mad. It was a year and a half ago. It's more our duty to tell you what we need to tell you cuz you're going to read that. We all make mistakes. You pointed one out to me the other day, Mr. Pal, and I You said something to me and I pointed something to you that that was a mistake and you did it anyway and that's all I'll say about it. You know what I'm talking about? No, but I have made a lot of mistakes.

Well, I I'm going to leave it at that because this this is kind of getting out of control. We we caught it. I'm going to Little Rock. We're trying to correct it in two trucks and in 12 years to be honest with you is not too bad. into their budget items, right? That's how we can fix that. We just get all those and and like was pointed out, this is not about money. This is about not following a procedure. Money was not more money that was not spent on things that you did not budget. We didn't budget. You you budgeted budgeted it.

So, it's it's a mistake and we're fixing it. Okay. Okay. This is the revenue highlights from it. You can go through and actually look at each of what I decided to do is not only give you the 24's numbers that are in your actual audit that you have, but I wanted to show you the trend from 21 to 24 for some of the revenue categories that they actually track in the audit. Now this is an actual acred based of accounting not our modified cash basis. So the state aid which is return backs the revenues for that went from 168 up to 296 that's a between the 20 year 21 and 24 years that's a 75% change and the change between 24 and 23 was 68.02% 02% in the state aid. Property taxes took a little bit of a decrease from 24 to 23. If you look at both the audited numbers from the revenues down 1.13% but overall from 21 to 24 up 9.45%. As far as franch Yes.

Do you have I don't know why if that's what you're going to ask. Is that what you were going to ask? Well, the 23 to 24 the decrease. Mhm. Is this on just city property taxes collected or is this a county? This is the revenue we received from the city of Greenwood from all property taxes based on these audited numbers that the auditors put together. It's our portion. It's your portion from the county's tax delinquent real estate, delinquent um personal uh commercial, whatever. I don't know. But bottom line is it's the revenue we receive from property taxes collectively.

Any decrease year-over-year over the last 10, 15 years, there's something super bad going on somewhere in that department. There's no possible way that property tax revenues decreased in any shape, form, or fashion. The numbers don't lie. Well, the numbers have lied somewhere is what I'm saying. Some somebody somewhere's that's where the audit needs to be. I don't know who does that one. Well, all I know is that I didn't put these together. I'm sharing them with you. Well, I'm just I'll get with you because I I want to know. This is the Well,

I want I want to know who's in charge of turning in those numbers because I guarantee everybody in this building can show you their property tax receipts. Heck, I got house stewards right here went from $6 in 2015 to 70 last year. You shouldn't be arguing with me. I'm just giving you I'm not arguing. just I was curious if you had an idea why or you have an opinion and the auditors do too. This these are the numbers that are in our audited financials. They said the property tax is 693 and I'm telling you if you go back to the 23's report it says 701. If you go back to the 22 it say I have them all right here as a matter of fact.

I'm trying to stand up for the city and say we got short changed. But it's not unprecedented either though because from 20 uh from 21 to 22 it decreased and then it jumped up in 23 but then it decreased again in 24. So it's happened a couple of times. With respect to property taxes there are there are plenty of attorneys who are going back on large property holders and saying you evaluated this property X dollars and it's only worth this much. So there there could have been some of that going on, but otherwise No, I'm not arguing. I'm just curious. I like to know who to talk to to get those numbers. I can ask. Yeah, but you're going to I can show you our numbers.

I'll talk to Zach. You're going to love me if he was here. Franchise fees. Well, look at this. They dropped, too. They're down 1.17%. Okay.

Sales tax, though. Sales tax is up 3.09%. uh including a amount that now this is all sales taxes not just city it's all sales taxes combined uh local permits and rental fees now what's lumped into this would be the pavilion rentals too they're in this number so I pulled out planning just so that you can see on a cash basis what planning permits were of these numbers and local permits and rentals even though they're up 9.31% between 24 and 23 uh advertising and promotion They're down 24.04% between 24 and 23. That's the audited numbers. Now 25 you just saw it's also bad. So you're seeing a negative trend and I've been pointing that out to the AM as well as you uh every month when you see the historical. So these these numbers mean something as far as each of those individual categories. That's why I'm highlighting them so that you can start thinking of what's what's behind that. Um, as far as the total, I didn't have time today when I was putting these together to come up with all the answers, but I can tell you that your revenue from 2021 for these items and these items only 6.3 million to 7.5. The actual increase between the month this to this or each year to to the previous year was 10.8, 3.81, and 3.6. From 24 to 21, we're up 19.22% 22% in revenue for those items. I just wanted to highlight those for you. But now I want to go to the general fund and I want to show that the general fund, this is for only the general fund. And there's restricted general funds which are obviously by ordinance or by resolution or by state law. And there's uh also unrestricted which can be used

for anything and is not in essence part of a law or part of an ordinance or part of a resolution. You're looking at 21 to 24 from 6.7 million to 8 million. This that would be the general fund all in. Let's extrapolate unrestricted monies from that. So of the 6.7 million that's been in our general fund, we isolate out two million for unrestricted purposes in 21, we revised this only for the ARPA uh incident that happened because in this number here in 23 and the number in 24, they received um 972,000 of surplus money that went into the unrestricted that was generated because we used ARPA money for paying the salaries of the police department. So that money fell into the 2023's unrestricted and in 2024 you did a a resolution to restrict that money to the water sewer department at the end of 24 because they were going to have to do some reo of the utilities for the road project. So that's coming out in 25, but theoretically it's it should not be influencing these two months. So I've revised this to exclude the 972,000 and that's showing you where we are right now as far as our re our unrestricted monies because this is going to water sewer. As far as the current year though, right now through the month of November, end of November, actually as of today, 1,67,000 is where you are in unrestricted general funds. So you've gone from 2 million8 to 1,67,000, but the budget for this year at the end

of the year was 997,000. That's that's from your approved budget. So, you're still better than your budget, but you still have a month to go and that's on the unrestricted general funds. This is the number that I am worried about because that's our contingency threshold and you're dropping below that. Keep that in mind when we start doing the budget reviews. Um, as far as the notes to the financials, just go through and read those. Uh, they tell you a lot and explain a lot about where a lot of these numbers come from, the cash deposits, financial institutions. The only reason I pulled this up is because it talks about our collateralization of the monies that are in the bank. We're required to have it fully collateralized. We do, however, we do always get this custodial credit risk. And that's the risk that some of the investments that the bank is taking the money and investing in is in a risk uh not secured uh form. that if that's secondarily those uh investments that they're making go under then there's a potential that our funds for those amounts of $1 million this 1 million5 or $1 million is what they're saying of our nine million or 10 million a tenth of it is at risk now that's not a finding as far as they're it's concerned it's not a requirement that they be in uh something that doesn't possess or present a custodial secondary risk. It says down here though that we don't have a deposit policy for dealing with custodial credit risk. It's something we might want to consider. It's pointed out every year. Um the fact that this number is only about a tenth of what we have. That's what you're looking at potentially losing if everything goes wonkers. um still a risk as far as the uh next

one that you would be looking at would be how we invest our pension plans and it shows on the different levels whether we're in US government obligations how much we're in bonds talks about non-marketable securities non-marketable um amount of 77,000 that has to do with our loans that we now allow them to take 50% of their vested amount they can actually get a loan and they're paying themselves back the interest. The reason that we make sure it doesn't impact their corporates amount is because they're only allowed to take 50% of their vested amount which is theirs. As far as stocks, mutual funds, and fix, that's where we have the bulk of what we have in our corpus. There's $2 million in our corpus right now. As far as our limit debt limit, this is something else I point out. It does talk about there's no property tax secured bonded debt. So, we're we've got all 28 million. Don't get any thoughts or ideas. Uh that's our bonded amount that you could basically that's your ceiling, your debt limit. On the short-term financing obligations, we are borrowing against that. We have 882,000 as of December of 24, leaving a debt margin of 6 million3 on a $7.2 million, and that is the short-term financing equal to 5% of the assessed value of taxable property. So, um, that's only about 12% just so you know.

Yes, that 882, that's splash pad and firet truck. Neat. You asked that question. Look right up on the screen. Long-term liabilities, direct borrowings. It's both the financing for the firetruck. You owe 197,313 on it. That's actually paid off August of next year. So, your truck will be fully paid off at that point. And as far as the splash pad, don't get any ideas, Stuart. I do. Too late. You already did.

Um I I have the number. The SPL the splash pad is paid off supposed to be. It goes through June of 29, but because there is additional paid in capital of 20,000 a year uh given to us or granted to us by a grant from the AMP commission, that amount of money is going to help pay off the back end. So, this will pay off sometime in 28, not in 29. So, you're saving about $100,000 worth of interest due to the AMP. Could you go back a couple of slides to the U? Yes. Is this the retire? Yes.

You talked about borrowing from their own retirement. What if the employee gets let go or they have an option to pay off their balance directly so it doesn't impact it? In other words, put it back um so that that's whole, but that's their money. If they choose to default on that, they get a 1099R and they get the early withdrawal penalty. Yes. So, it's significant. Yeah.

Um, okay. So, but that's how it breaks down. You'll notice up here at the top, that's the refunding of the uh that's the road. Notice the water bond is not in there because it's the water. As far as the local lop fee is concerned that we're talking about retirements, good note to look at. The city's contribution to the plan is $338,000. That's not a a cheap endeavor there. Um the amount of insurance that's paid by the state to help defay the cost last in 2024 was 142,000 more. That's if they stop doing this uh insurance tax paid. If they stop that and there's nothing that says they have to continue that. if they elect at the at the state level to not fund that, that drops right into our coffers. We would have to bear that cost. Now, as far as the other retirement plans, we have the clerk treasur retirement benefits. Will McCabe and Linda, they didn't spell Brian right, um these are the dollar amounts that are paid as far as their benefit, and you can read about why that's having to be done. It's an elected official election that they allowed them to do. City attorney is the same way. That would be Mike Cami, former city attorney is collecting retirement. This is the dollar amount that was paid through 24. And then we have the non-uniform plan. That's the 7 and a half% for which I've just mentioned. Um you'll see down at the bottom that there was $88,000 paid for city employees and 80,000 to the water sewer. So that's the amount of money that's contributed at 7 and a half% of their salaries at the uh beginning of each year for the previous year. And that would be it on that. Now, there's probably a lot more in

there if you go through that you might have some questions about and I'd be more than happy to get some more detail about that. But I think the first thing I'll do on the on the revenues for taxes is I will go and pull our receipts and everything that came in for each of those years and you can see exactly what we took in. So if if there's an issue, I don't analyze that issue here. The issue would come from the state. Oh yeah. Yeah. And the county collector. Yeah. Absolutely. No, I wasn't pointing fingers to the local boys. Yeah. Okay. Should we go to the next item? Might as well run right into it. Yep.

This is the water the water commission has been made aware of all of this report and we have gone over this with them. So the opinion is a good clean opinion. In my opinion, the financials present fairly in all material respects. That's called an unmodified opinion. That's good. Restricted assets and the capital assets. I just basically wanted to share with you this depreciation down here. The accumulated depreciation I showed them was 39.5% of the total value of all the capital assets. The larger that number gets, the more the older your assets are, the more you really should be looking at funded depreciation um in order to be able to afford replacing some of your older

39.5% the accumulated depreciation against your uh tangible assets, your capital assets. Okay,

that's 39%. So the higher that number, the older your assets because the more it's depreciated. Okay. As far as the liabilities is concerned, I think I'm looking at Okay, it had to do with the the note I wanted to talk about is long-term liability. That's that water bond that you have uh that the city has outstanding in the water department. As of 24, it was 1.2 million. We are making um uh what right now $95,000 principal payment to that fund every year. That's now going to go to starting in 26 $100,000. It was 95 for 25. So that number will drop to 1 million15 at the end of this year and it will start next year going down even more. As far as the operating expenses are concerned, this would be what how profitable the collective water sewer department was. And you notice down at the bottom, it's showing you your revenues are 4,7 operating expenses of 5 million1. You realize that this does include depreciation. Depreciation is a non-cash expense. So if you were going to look at this as profitable profitability on a cash basis, you want to remove that. And that's what we would do even for the bond covenant, which we do not have a problem with in 24. So what I've done is I've taken those numbers and I've listed them out for water and sewer. Well, I want to show you well, I'll show it to you in a different manner. It's it's this column right here combined. So when you look at the amount that was listed in 204, I've taken depreciation out of these numbers. So you really were profitable

collectively by a half a million dollars when you remove the non-cash expense. And compare that to 2023 and you can see why a rate increase was necessary combined. Water sewer were both now dragging. before in the previous years we were having water being profitable and it was covering the losses of sewer. So in 24 the first phase of the water rate increase went into being and that was the amount that was indicative of the rate for usage and that was a staggered usage went up based on how much you you actually consume in water. uh sewer had to go up also based on that same usage p uh practice for the water sale. Now, what I wanted to show you was at the end of this, there's a page in the actual audit with it's called supplemental information. And I actually have the auditors now break water out from sewer so that we can see what expenses and revenues are attributable to water and how profitable they are as well as sewer and combined. So that's what I've done here is I've shared that with you and you this is what they also in the water uh commission have seen in the 24 numbers to the 23 numbers revenue went up 28.51% for water and 106% for sewer. And that's primarily because of the situation sewer was in as far as where they hadn't had a rate increase in 11 years. They were really losing money every every single year for at least the last seven leading up to this rate increase and it could no longer be covered by the water department. Salaries and wages though I gave you percentages. They don't do this in the actual audit but the percentages

showed that the salary increase between 24 and 23 for the water department for for year 24 was only 4.85% 85% when you look at salaries and wages. It was 22.26% in the sewer department. So collectively it was 10.54% increase for both. That's the salary wages line. So if you look at these numbers and you actually put statistics to them, you could it tells a story and uh you can see where what increased that obviously salary and wages did not even include property I mean payroll taxes but you can see basically what each of these material categories uh did between the 23 and 24 years. The audit shows you that. So water was profitable by 189,000 when you removed depreciation, 267 for sewer, and that's where your half a million came in. In 25, you're going to see that number go up significantly. It's actually tracking to be about a million right now. And that's because the fixed rate went into play in 25. And that fixed rate has nothing to do with usage. It has to do with your bonds uh your debt service on the bond. that financing will be necessary in the upcoming years and um for betterments and improvements as well as contingencies for reserves for net disasters that would happen that they have to address as well as for funded depreciation and CPI. So that's all built into the rate. It's not all for operating. This is interesting. If you look at the cash flow from operating activities, you see where the money flowed. The actual cash outlays were the receive receipts from customers were 4.6 million, but suppliers got 2.8 of it. Payment to employees was 1.1 and payments for other

administrative costs was 358,000. So, it's interesting to see where your cash went as far as the Oh, there it is. I didn't have it just out of order. the water sewer audit. This is where I add back the that's the operating loss. Add back the depreciation in there was your revenue um your actual income rather. And then the only thing that's not listed here as far as that phase 2 fixed rate is the um what I call funded depreciation or you can call it replacement reserve either one. And then the basis of accounting. I had a little bit of a disagreement with the auditor on this primarily because uh when they listed the basis of accounting, he's saying that we uh that we the city of Greenwood adopted the acrruel basis of accounting whereby we record revenues as recognized when they were earned and expenses as they are incurred, not when they're paid. And we are on a modified cash basis. We are not on an acrruel base. It's it's the auditor's responsibility to take our numbers and provide we provide him the information in order to make it an acralbased presentation. Well, he wrote that in there so he didn't have to write all the the stuff that's in the leg audit report about how the state allows that to happen and it's it's acceptable to the state of Arkansas. The language is in the legislative one. So that's more of a convenience. We obviously the audit that you have in front of you is an acrruel based accounting. Um depository accounts they're fully collateralized with securities of the bank. Our auditor for water sewer does not talk about secondary credit risk. Um and the amounts that are over the FDIC coverage is 7.5 million this year, 6.5 in the previous years, and they're fully collateralized. Compensated absences. We always talk about these are the benefits that would be paid if they if we shut

down right now and had to pay out everybody what's legally owed to them. These would be comp times, vacation, sick time, anything that would be a benefit that they can keep. Um that would amount to from the water sewer department 109,000 and 89 from 24 to 23. Um it's a current liability on the combined statements. This would be your debt. The interest rates go from 1.15 to 3.5% for the amount that was outstanding in the year 2024. That's that 95% current installments that we pay on the principal. And then down here is a schedule that shows how that graduates up. This 2030 to 2034, this becomes 118,000 a year for those years. And from 35 and 36, that's 120,000 for the two years leading up to the actual maturity of that. These are callable now bonds. So if you wanted to pay it off, you could, but that would be a cash flow drain on you right now. And these are not um tax based. These are revenue bonds. These bonds are solely paid from the revenue that's generated from the water sales, water system sales, water sewer sales. So we take the WSR's uh revenues and we pay that bond uh payment. Uh this a little bit more about the bond uh defined contribution plan. This would be the 7 and a half% talks about how much we contributed. You saw that number already in the leg audit report. Talks about a flexible benefit uh plan. Um that's basically something that we offered them for cafeteria plan of benefits that they choose to use. Uh qualitative aspects of accounting talks about the difficulties encountered when performing the audit. None. Talks about uncorrected

misstatements. None. Disagreements with management. I did have a discussion with him on one of the deficiencies that he wrote up that um wasn't a significant deficiency, but I'll show it to you in a second. This restricted use says the information for this report and the one I'm going to show you next is solely for the mayor, city council, and management of the city of Greenwood as well as the water sewer commission. It is not intended to be and should not be used by anyone other than these specified parties. So generally that's not something that would be in the full report that we give to like S&P. This is for management purposes only. It's something that you have to uh restricted use that means it's not foiable.

It should be I mean even the you'll read that same language in the um in the leg audit report too and it does say it goes on to say he doesn't put it in there but it says uh this is public information and it's fully foyable. So if they would have to ask for it is basically what that means to treat it like it's a secret but it's foiable.

Well when we submit our reports to like the um the S&P or the people the bond company for instance uh that's these reports are not something that we initially send to them. What you have bound well you don't what you have on your tablets that's the report that is supposed to be submitted. These are something that I gave you supplementary. That's how they're given. So m he talks about material weaknesses, but I do want to talk about he talks about segregation of duties. We have corrected this because I now have another staff member that allows me to uh segregate our duties a little more responsibly and we're getting much more productivity out of what you're seeing and what comes out of our office. We're catching a lot more. We're doing a lot more timely reconciliations of what we call the virtual accounts, which was being done maybe quarterly, now they're being done monthly. So, we're we're on top of things more and it's caused a lot of u more efficiency in our department. But the two things that he wrote up was a transfer from city sales and use tax. City sales and use tax. The original writing that he had here led it to believe that we were overstating city sales and use tax checking account because every month we do a transfer from city sales and use tax over to the on and for water and sewer to cover capital the expenses. It's done that way because they pay all their bills from their on and so we just move the money to compensate for that. um capital expenditure because at the end of a year we were gone between Christmas and New Year's. Uh the check that was done to transfer the money over from city sales and use tax wasn't made until January

3rd when everybody got back. And because that took place he we were overstating one and we technically we were understating 24's revenue in the on and side. Well, I pointed out to him that that fund is under the full and complete control of the water commission and the water department and it's all part of their money. So, while one hand was over, the other hand was under collectively it was all it's not like that was a separate account somewhere. And so he changed the recommendation to say that it's an interfund transfer issue. He recommends that we try to get those done in the same month. We do except for when there's a unforeseen anomaly. Uh and then he says that I keep hitting that space bar. I guess that was the computer's way of saying you're done. Oh, come on. Let me go from current slide. Okay. So he what we were basically doing is um we're going to provide him just like we do the legislative audit the list of these types of anomalies so he doesn't miss them. Now how this was caught was he caught it in the reconciliation the bank wrecks caught it because it was an outstanding item and that's when he called me and we discussed it and I said do you want me to do a an automatic reversing journal entry and he said no no I'll handle it and then he writes it up and I'm like why? So that's what that means. That's what that is. It's not a big issue. This old outstanding checks. A lot of those are uh checks that were there from the refunds of their uh meter deposits and some of them weren't even checks. They there's we had to go back. They're old and they they were done from a previous administration, a previous previous director. And so what we found out is a lot of them were reissued. They just weren't voided out of our system.

So our system showing it was outstanding and they're not. A lot of research had to go into that. So, we're we're addressing that. Also, if you have checks, please cash them. Please don't hold on to them. That will help that. Don't want the $25.

Thank you, Mr. Marsh. It was all we expected. All right. Uh, yes. I'd like We need a motion to approve both of these audit reports, please. Motion. Second. Motion second. Did Rod make I mean Ralph make that? Yes. Yes, ma'am. Yeah. Okay. Mr. Brown, yes. Mr. Maker, yes. Yes. Rainwater. Yes. Tedford. Yes. Thank you. Number six is city clerk treasur millage roll back calculation. All right. Hold your tongue.

So, Zack Johnson was going to be here tonight. Sebastian County assessor. He fell ill unfortunately. We miss him. He's a great guy. And he emailed the mayor or myself. Um Tom might have been uh anyway. So, he recently completed a countywide reappraisal. As part of a finalization of that project, they were required by state law to perform a millillage roll back calculation which those are required to ensure that no taxing entities total taxable value will exceed 10% in growth due to the reappraisal. I don't pretend for y'all to understand all of this. It's even hard for me to grasp. I'm trying to explain it. He was supposed to be here to explain this. you know how you you can get a hold of me to get a hold of him if you have more questions after this. So as part of the roll back calculations that indicated a possible need for a roll back of the current millage rate which ours is a max of five mills. So he sent some worksheets to us that that were utilized to calculate this. Um and those were to those calculations were to prove whether there was an indication or not that that this overage was present. Uh using their value information and worksheets provided by the Arkansas Assessment Coordination Division, the roll back test indicated a millage reduction to 4.78 mills. So it's just under five. So the deal is we're taxing at five mills and the reappraised value is so great that it's over that 10% threshold I will put it. So this notification from Zach came to us to simply pres present the data in accordance with the procedures and guidelines that they are held to under Arkansas law and no roll back is currently required only that there's an indication that

it's possible to roll it back. That is up to the taxing entity which is us. We are the taxing entity on that. uh he has notified all all of the taxing entities that this exists across the board because of the high property values and the reappraisals and it pretty much happened to everybody here. Um but we thought it best for y'all to know the mayor wanted to make sure that the council knew about this. Um there's no requirement to do anything about it right now. You feel free to reach out to Zach or maybe he can come to the next council meeting. He his regrets that he fell ill tonight. He was going to be here. But that right there is our notification to you that this exists and it's just a little bit over. Um the deal is is that a taxpayer could, you know, come and say, you know, there's this law that says you can't get over 10% profit or whatever on this tax. So, we're not doing anybody wrong, but

it may need addressed. I think I I don't understand it. So, he's wanting to take more and wanting us to take a little less so he doesn't get in trouble for taking so much more. It's not he taking it. That's insane. Yeah. There's Well, he needs to take less on his end and leave us alone. Well, that's what we would have to reduce ours to 4.78. We We can't tax at five. Do we do we know how much money of decrease that is? Well, theoretically,

if you look at it this way, the The 10% growth is your cap. So if the growth is greater than 10%, you roll back the actual millage so that you maintain that 10% growth. That's all that this is doing. It's just keeping you at or below that law that says you can't collect more than 10% of a growth in the assessed value. So which is good to know that's in place. If you don't do it, what Charlotte said is true. An argument could be made that you over them based on that law. That's why the role that's why the So what Rod said right he's charging us more or he's making more we're making less. We are doing it. He

you would be making more. We said collect five and that puts us over the the 10% because of the value of all the land. What puts us over the 10%? The fact that they reappraised. There you go. And and now but but I mean That's probably fair market and I don't pretend to know what all is involved in that. TR probably knows more than that. He reappraised and our millage is over what it should be but our property taxes are way over what they should be. Well, increased to the city. So,

do we have to take action on this tonight or can we table this until we speak Johnson? Are they are they asking us just to roll back the millage percentage or are they talking about some type of re Okay, maybe you already factored in this for the toothpaste back in the tube. Yeah, I know that that's the reason why they do the roll back, I think, is so that you don't have to div it up or anything. That would be astronomically. Your answer would be it just doesn't reassess and leaves us all alone, right? Well, that's for him to answer too, not me. And his answer is, I'm going to take a lot more money and to get the city to take less. Yeah. So I don't look so bad.

I don't I do not do his job. I I would want to do the job. I would wait till Mr. Johnson can be here. I cannot wait. Somebody needs to make a motion. I'll make Yeah. Second motion. Second table. Mr. Brown. Yes. Mr. Mr. Rainwater. Yes. Mr. Tedford. Yes. Mr. Pow. I got lots of questions. 30 days.

Yeah, it's hard to grasp.

Well, it's just the fact you these elderly folks over here bought a house in 1957 for $8,000. They still live in it. And then some yoke locals bought the property next to it, put a $300,000 house right beside it. Now, Grandma Johnson's property taxes are 5,000 times more than what they should be because the house next to her, it's just unbelievable that the assessor has the audacity to raise her property value up because the next door neighbors got a nice house. That just doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever. I mean, mine are the same way, but I look more towards the older and all it gets, well, we're trying to upgrade these old additions in Greenwood. Well, you're upgrading the elderly people right out of their pocketbook.

Well, the good news is in Arkansas at 65, you can have it frozen. Yeah. Well, the bad news is we're not all 65. Getting there. I'm there. You're Roger. Don't care. No, I do care because that's right. What saying exactly? It's sad. It's sad. Sad. Okay, we will invite Mr. Johnson back when he's feeling well and let him explain. Uh moving on to number seven. Yep. Meeting calendar there.

Yeah, we do this every year. So unless you see something odd or out of place about these dates, which all I do is look at a calendar online for next year and figure out the holidays and how it all falls. We've got three of those budget reviews in there. You know, this is subject to change if you needed to eventually. So, if you want to just adopt it, then this is what we'll try to go by next year.

If if a holiday fell on a Monday, I moved it to the following Monday. Is that okay with everybody or would you rather have Tuesdays the next day on a Tuesday? Seems like that's hard for some of y'all. the following Monday's probably better. Okay, that's what I did. So, so far it looks good to me. So, I'll make a motion we adopt this. Second. We have a motion in a second to adopt. Mr. Brown, yes. Mr. Maker, yes. Mr. Terry, yes. Mr. Rainwater, yes. Mr. Tedford, yes. Mr. Powell, yes.

Thank you, ma'am. Number eight is I49 update. You have that, Mr. Bell. You want to speak on this? I I was unable to attend this meeting. I know they showed this at the MO, correct? But it's all very street. So, where are we now?

This is coming from through the spinach fields. There ain't no spinach. They ain't grown one of spinach over there.

What is the spinach? being there business. Now they're not working. Now they're out of view.

Yeah, they're out there. Yeah, there was some movement. They already there was you were doing elevating the roof.

These are for drainage. They'll go underneath the road road bed in several places. Yeah, you're getting close to the river. This is down around the gun club road there. There you're coming up on the river. How many miles did we just watch from Elma to the river. I'm not sure. I think seven miles or something like that. Seven miles from the river. Okay.

I think it's a little bit further north of there. Now, this is starting from 8 Street. If you go down 8 Street in Barley, you'll run into this where you're starting uh up here. Probably a quarter of a mile is where they had the uh groundbreaking. You're moving north now. The second ground, the first one was right there at the end of a few years back. So, what's the estimated completion date? I think three years completion date to where

to the to the river the bridge is something else you know that's that's the big big kicker it won't be far behind there's no way I mean even the wisdom of the highway department is not going to do all this and let it set there no way to cross exactly the bridge is obviously in the went to the meeting. Cross first. But after they showed this, I thought this would be a good thing to show you guys. But like I said, there's no way you can see it from any highway or anything else. You don't know where.

You know, they mentioned doing a toll and do a two-lane bridge on initially making it a toll bridge. I voted for a little something with an email. Danielle got a hold of highway department and they sent us this video.

I just wanted this for your information because it's good to know that that there is something going on over there. Yeah, they're keeping gun club rebate.

But that's all I had. I just wanted y'all to see that and uh know that they are are doing this and what's I guess and uh like Manhattan or whatever the the bridge builders over here or are they the ones that kind of going to move over there to the Arkansas Bridge?

I it seemed to me like they they said that they were, but I'm not sure AC. It seemed like they mentioned them in some capacity, but uh like I said, our highway commissioner has been behind this strongly and uh we'll all get to drive across that bridge one of these days. But the MP works works hand in hand with the with AROT and uh uh this was a meeting that we had. We had like our highway commissioner there and all the uh local AR dot people there and they showed this video and I thought this be something neat that council would like to see.

Cool. Thank you, Mr. Bill. Number nine, budget extension resolution back to Tom. I mean it's understood that this is just operations and not other new things that can be bought. Make a motion to pass the resolution. Second motion in a second to pass the resolution. Mr. Brown, yes. Mr. Maker, yes. Mr. Terry, yes. Mr. Rainwater, yes. Mr. Temper, yes. How?

Yes. Just so the audience knows there was not much discussion because we do that every year. Number 10 is planning permit fee schedule. You handle this one Mr. Michaels. Sorry,

Mayor Council Merry Mr. Plumber. Uh I have in front of you today uh an ordinance repealing and replacing uh ordinance 26-21-06 which was our previous fee schedule and I've consolidated a bunch of our existing planning and building zoning fees updated them to match uh current standards pricing and I compared all of our fees to other surrounding cities Portsmith, Alma, Van Beern, and then went as far as Jonesboro. They had a they had a different take on fee schedules, which we've incorporated in this example a few of those, such as moving to a square footage price for permit fees instead of basing it on evaluation. Uh the pricing that you will see for those square footages came through an analysis of all of the residential building permits that have been issued since 2021. And then I averaged all of the fees out for building, electrical, mechanical, plumbing, and then broke all of those down into what would have been a square footage price. Uh, I then decided to implement a 10% increase and then compared that increased price to all of the nearby cities and their average permit fees. It would put us slightly ahead. Uh, but as soon as they were to go review their fee schedules, they would implement, I'm assuming, a 10% increase across the board. All of the fees fitting kind of the uh codification committee's template moving forward will be in exhibits just to make everything a little bit cleaner,

easier to read. All of our ordinances that we present from now on should be in this format with the minimum number of sections being six. Uh you will notice in section five that I am requesting not an emergency clause but a waiver of the second and third reading so that these fees will implement become effective January 1. I like to try to start everything fresh on a new year. And if you have any questions for any of the fees, I'd be happy to answer those. Did you need to all point out that you would like it to be read tonight and waved and

Yeah. Now residential fees that's just on any multifamily regular single family dwelling there any difference in

not on the residential fees that's just for construction purposes. There are uh there it is broken out when you get to the third page which are going to be all the planning, zoning, subdivision fees. A large portion about the top half of those are new. We do not charge any fees for review of multif family plan sets, uh commercial plan sets, industrial plan sets, the I mean someone could submit plans to us 10 times and we don't charge a fee for it. That is common practice among most cities. So that that pricing was a mixture between what was most expensive and a good middle ground between them and the cheapest.

Now that provision where it says the mayor may wave the requirement of fees as stated in the current ordinance in effect. Yes. Is that like that currently? or is that something that would be? No. So, so there is an ordinance that authorizes the mayor to wave fees in certain circumstances for the county. Not like all these. Correct. Okay. Not all those. I just wanted it stated in our fee because it does deal with uh any storm damage related permit fees. That was the revision we made at the last

repeal in place. Do you think that we should clarify that? The way it reads, it reads to me like it means this all of these fees. So it would apply if we were waving, for example, the fees for the Sebastian County Library. There would be a large portion of these fees miscellaneous through here that that would be waved. But would that allow just anybody else though just because the way because I know we've had issues before sometimes on semantics and the way these some of this language is. I tried to leave it vague so that it referred back to the controlling ordinance. I just wanted it stated in here so that it would refer back to that ordinance. I thought you were repealing everything.

Not that specific that that's a whole different ordinance that controls the waving of fees. That was a standalone current ordinance, but it feels like it's this one. What is the current ordinance? Yeah, we can restate that however you'd like. I was trying to get around putting specific ordinance numbers in there because then we would have to go back and change this if that ordinance were to be repealed in the um use language sort of that word in in the relative use some different language in an ordinance that we reviewed earlier today.

Yeah. Something that points to those and not this one. This is just all that I think needs to be there. I love the table. I think it should be, you know, waving the the fees, you know, I mean, the the mayor wave, but per, you know, council approval is that or is it just the mayor can just wave them on his own? Whatever the whatever he's allowed to do within that specific ordinance, we can remove it. I just wanted it in here for reference purposes, but it could be stricken. It's good to clarify what's in there. The only thing I can wave fees on currently, and I know what you're saying, it looks like applying to this is

tornado comes through somebody's do something. I mean that's that I can wave that and I can wave county projects. Yeah. And it's a good reminder down here in provisions. It just Yeah. Just needs and if the county were to bring in a mobile food court for some unknown reason, you could technically wave the fees on that. I mean I could apply county to almost anything that one of these fees addresses. Hey Hunter on the sidewalk fees payment in lie of I know we've had this discussion before but is that something we want to

the payment in lie of I I've I've had a lot of uh push back on the sidewalk fee in of itself and the requirement to install it but the payment in lie of offers a unique ability in situations where having a sidewalk to nowhere in an area that's not desirable for us to ever have sidewalk in the future. It gives them the ability to to submit a payment for that amount of sidewalk that we can place elsewhere. I think there's some over there right now on road by those new triplexes that just goes into a ditch and there's no way to Yeah.

Yeah. when they when they don't feel like paying the fee, they just they put the sidewalk in like they have to and sometimes it leads to nowhere. I think a master plan would help with that. Good language. I think just what you say as stated in in the applicable ordinances in those applicable just something like that occurring in those

I love that table so nice to have that all arranged like that for everybody's ease of location and use and understanding I I know we used to have it in list format that didn't look like this. We've come a long way from $50 and $2 a lot. Yeah. And those numbers have not changed in a very long time.

You will notice on the industrial trade fees, they're set at a penny a square foot. And that's typically because your industrial projects are going to have a large footprint with very little trade work. So all of the calculations that went into this panned out in out. Uh we did add fire safety permits. So for residential commercial sprinkler systems, we have permits for those along with new fire inspections. So if the fire department has to go out and complete an inspection, they have a method of which to submit an invoice for payment on that. As long and a reinspection fee. Certificate of occupancy fees. We've never charged to issue one of those. Those can be ownorous if you really go through everything like you're supposed to. And then some of it stays exactly the same. Demolition hasn't changed a whole lot. Swing pools haven't changed. Did you kind of model this to see what your revenues might have looked like for this year using that one?

I have not had a chance to get around to that. I am working on that. I want to see what the budget effect is for our department. I mean, it it it will be increased based on the adding 10% to our permit fees. But to what extent, I have to predict how many plan reviews we're going to have. And I've got a five-year history of our department's revenues that I'm basing a lot of our projections on, trying to be as accurate as I can.

Very good. If you see any fees that are missing, let me know. We can get them added last minute. Multi family dwelling are too low, but that's all right. that Jonesboro had a significant price for multif family structures.

So are we just repealing 21-06 and then leaving all those others? So this is a unique ordinance and of the fact that it is both uh repealing and amending and I did make sure that that was allowable and discuss this with city attorney. We are explicitly repealing the previous ordinance that was the schedule of fees 21106 and then we are amending all those other specific sections out of all the other ordinances that have fee amounts listed in them. Okay. So I will only put repeal on 21106 in our library. Yes.

Okay. Thanks. I don't put amended on that. I just put Yeah, I'll leave those. Any more questions? Any discussion? Um, just a little tiny. It It says in section six that refers to the Department of Planning and Development schedule 2025, but did I retitled it to 26? Okay. So, that needs to be 26 in the ordinance. Yes. Thank you for that.

My exhibit change year. My exhibit is labeled as our fee schedule for 2026 based on its implementation date, but I referenced it in the exhibit section as 2025.

Find it all now so we don't have to change it next year. Back to sidewalk fees. Yes, you have nothing on I don't understand the payment. We have nothing right there 25% that payment. So the payment in lie of is actually covered in our sidewalk ordinance which nothing is being changed in that ordinance. So how do you figure the cost of that? The cost of that is figured based on a quote that I receive at the time of the request for installed concrete per linear foot.

Okay. And then I did make a clarification in this uh exhibit because this is an issue that I've ran into several times. It's supposed to be based on your lot frontage abing the street. However, I have a lot of individuals say, "Well, I'm putting a driveway in 20 ft of it. Are you going to charge me for that 20 ft?" So, it's the lot frontage dimension minus the width of the driveway. Are you including grading? that is installed. Yeah, that's that's grading formed. Yep. I say plus 25% on that.

Plus 25%. That was straight out of the ordinance. So So they the idea is they lose if they do pay. That's right. That's correct.

And then we probably lose because the concrete go up more before we want to put a sidewalk there. end up not covered with the but we always keep up with right I'm sure Mr. So you are looking for passage. I heard you earlier. Yes. Uh you wanted us to no emergency clause but wave second and third reading so it can be adopted on January 1. Okay. And I'll make a motion we pass this ordinance by title only from first reading. Second motion second. Mr. Brown. Yes.

Mr. Yes, Mr. Terry. Yes, Mr. Rainwater. Mr. Terry, I mean, yes, sorry, Mr. Pal. I'm not sure that it's unanimous. Uh, an ordinance repealing ordinance number 21-06 in its entirety, amending and superseding the fee provisions of ordinance numbers 00-31, 03-29, 19-01, 22-12, 22-34, 23-10, 23-18, and 23-21. and establishing a new unified fee schedule for the department of planning and development and for other purposes. I'll make a motion we suspend the rules and wave second third reading.

Second motion second spend rules and wave second third

the title need city of Greenwood in there at all Travis. I don't know if there's like a legal reason it has to be in a title. We have them. That's what I was wondering. You know, we have it in section five of the of the document. I don't know if it needs to really be in section five or just it just needs to we almost always have procedure that talk about our the city, you know, the name just says the planning and development, but should we put city of Greenwood section? Sure. Sure. Does anybody want it? Do you think it needs to be I do? I will put it in.

Okay, we'll just add it. Anyways, I will vote to w Mr. Brown. Yes, Mr. Mr. Terry. Yes. Mr. Rainer, yes. Mr. Tedford, yes. Mr. Pal, yes. Did you get what you wanted down there? Well, we didn't ever specifically say it in the motion. Um, but with the changes that you were requesting. Okay. You you amend your motion. I'll late amend my motion to add the city agree with somewhere in the title and change the 25 to 26 and there's that provision down there. The provision down there. There we go. All right. Not down under, but down there. So, we need one more motion to adopt.

Second. Motion. Second to adopt. Mr. Brown. Yes. Mr. Mer. Yes. Terry. Yes. Mr. Rainwater. Yes. Mr. Tford. Mr. Brown. Yes. Thank you. Mr. Mr. Hunter is very easy to work with. He's really proactive and easy to work with. I appreciate it. I know. I'm just honestly of the year to sing a phrase. Brady this morning. You haven't won it yet. Wonder. Boy Wonder. No, Captain Diligent. Captain Diligent. That is That's is true.

We appreciate you guys. Great job. No, the thing is he's just really easy to work with. It's just not full of any kind of weird just good as opposed to Sunny. Is that what we're going exactly right? That's exactly right. Trying not to name 100%. Is he in the category with Zach right now or something? Oh, wow. Before we dismiss, we do. Yes, sir. Notwithstanding the fact that I approved these minutes, I don't understand the first part of number nine, finance discussion. Yeah. Uh I I just didn't understand

the first paragraph where nine finance discussion of cost of living. I just couldn't understand the first.

Did it say there may not be a cola raise in the budget? Well, it says Tom stated the national cola came in at 2.8%. And the living cost of Arkansas is 11% lower than the national average putting Arkansas cola at 2.5. He said that Fort Smith cola is 13% therefore 2.4% and Greenwood is 13% 13.3% lower than the national average which puts it at 2.43%. 43% and I think Greenwood's in there twice at two different rates or

well I think he wasn't he was very specific on a 2.43 One of them is 2.34. One of them is Fort Smith, one of them is Greenwood. Okay. Okay. Yeah, that's that. Okay, I've got it. Okay. I thought we had Greenwood twice in there, but never mind. I want to sing praises to Tom. Praises to Tom. He didn't even flinch. Department reports and questions from capital. I think I had one. Got a few here. Several here. Dates.

Yeah, we'll do that. Chief, you got something? You're volunteering? Well, it's not about pickup truck. Are you want to buy it without going through state bill? He always does. I know

we no um spoke with Tom a little bit today uh this evening about um our um we got all the money or everything spent that we're going to spend on the uh on the 6x6 and there's right at about eight grand left in that amount and that's right at within $100 the cost of a refloatable rescue boat that I'm putting on the budget for next And I was talking to Tom about it on prices and he said, "Why don't you just ask the council about spending that money on it this year?" So, we have to put it in next year's budget. Um, there is one at Granger that they ordered and put back for me. Uh, because I thought we're going to use Act 833 money for it and come to find out you can't use that for a rescue boat. You can use it for a lot of other stupid things, but you can't use it for a rescue boat. Uh but it's uh basically the quotation for that is86.9171 uh through Granger. That was the cheapest I could find. There was the others for the two other vendors was right at $9,000. And this is the exact same boat we have. No motor or anything. It's just the actual inflatable. Uh right now ours is staying inflated after we completely fill it up, maybe two days.

Yeah. Um I have a I mean, if we had to use it right now and then and filled it up, I think we'd get people out, but it'd be back down. And uh and so it's needing to be replaced. But um anyway, I just that'd be something else I won't have in the budget for next year, which I don't have much in the budget for next year, but we do have funds right now in city sales and use tax that won't change how much you've already budgeted to pay for it if you I do have a question. What have we made every attempt to get it? Can it be fixed? Can it be patched? Can it

We actually got a hold of the manufacturer, sent him videos, everything. And um Bob Dodd did it a couple times and then we had um one of our other guys that used to be Coast Guard. He was like, "Oh, I can fix all this." And we tried and tried. It just it won't it's in the seal where you fill it up in two different places. My next question, sorry to interrupt you, would be, have you considered an aluminum boat? Well, we've talked about that, but aluminum boat will fill up with water and flip over when you have people in it and a this type of boat will not. Aluminina boat's good when you have maybe this much water. If the water's this high and you've got a several hundred pound person that you're rescuing.

The only the reason I asked that is I would I would assume by dragging that in and out of your trailer. I mean, I've never had an inflatable boat, but it's got to be the wear and tear on it. Got to be We've got a inflatable boat trailer that we purchased a couple years ago. got rid of that flat bottom and sold it to the the wooden trailer. So, the one that you got on now is Yes, it's specific for the boat. Okay. I'm just Yeah, I will tell you I will tell you at some point be more than that. I'm sure

we're probably going to want to get aluminum flat bottom in addition to but right now we don't even know where we would put it because we had that discussion. So, uh, talking with the officers, let's just replace this one since I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Aluminum flat bottom for what? I mean, not swift water rescue. Oh, he's talking about water rescue. Like, say over at just like the Well, the reason we would need it is because there's several times that we'll get called out to like Jack Nolan for a person stranded and that that uh inflatable couple. Well, that we've had some other things out there. And so,

if we had had a a flat bottom, it you would have been able to pull the boat off the log or whatever so much easier. We're on the inflatable, you just don't have it doesn't have the pool. It doesn't have the I guess the cut in the water or whatever it takes. One's good for one thing, the other one's good for

Red Cross actually had us go down to Greenwood Lake one time. The only time there's been an outboard legally on that lake. And uh we were trying to move the solar be something something down below actually the intake parts and it wouldn't it wouldn't do it even with that 35 or that 45 horse motor or 40 horse that we got. And I guess it had to do with just not having the stern or the stuff to to keep it. It was doing this right here and I was like, "Okay, it's probably not going to work. They're going to have to get somebody's bass boat down here or something. Move that thing." So, you're requesting use money you got left over. Requesting the use money that we have uh in the total of

$8,691.71 to to replace our inflatable boat. And your motor goes from that one to this one. Yeah, it's just replacing the boat itself. It's the inflatable part. It's the exact same one. Is that city sales and use tax restricted money only for your fire? Yes. So, the money's in the budget. The money's already in the budget. It's money. from other projects. I mean, we don't have anything in front of us for this, do we? Well, there's We wouldn't need it, I don't think. You just want our blessing. I'm asking for your blessing. So, we would need a budget resolution, wouldn't we?

The only reason is because That's the reason he's coming to bottom line.

I just didn't know if we needed one for the Well, we would because of the over 5,000 rule that we do. Yeah. I mean, we can make one up and you can say pending that you see it, you know. Yeah. Well, I just like I'd like to approve the purchase. Yeah. And it's also before the end of the year. So, because this is known as this year's money. So, go ahead and resolution that we can address. We have a budget meeting, I'm sure, coming up. We sneak something in on that. vote. You can schedule special meeting.

I don't I've never called a special meeting. You don't want to break the rules. Don't jinx me. What the vote is and not to exceed this amount of money. I mean, we can just put it in that budget. Yeah. And you'll see it. That's it'll be that. Yes. And you can vote on it. I would vote. You vote on it and you'll see it. Definitely don't want to have an extra meeting in December if you don't have to. What was the number 81? 80. It's 869171.

It's coming out city. Yeah. capital and it's not what I'll make a motion that we pass a resolution or approve the spending pending a resolution that we can see. Here's a problem. We're not supposed to vote on things that are not on the agenda. I'll make a motion we add to the agenda item 12. Okay. Item 12. And the only reason I want to go through this is because what normally happens is we have people that see that would just go out and buy stuff then come to us later and say, "Hey, I need to move this money over here and they bought it two months ago."

So at least we're trying to be proactive and come to us before he spends the money. He had spent the money. Okay. Yeah. A lot of times people already spent money and then they come to us want to change their budget and it's like he bought that two months ago and then so So Tim, did you make the motion? Yeah, I think it is. Whatever motion is made, I'll sign it. All right, by the vote. Who else? I'll second. I mean, it's restricted money. Again, this isn't being special needs for the fire. They get everything they want. It's just tax dollars that they can only spend on a boat or whatever. Is it red? It is red.

Yeah. Mr. Brown. Yes. Mr. Mer. Yes. Yes. Mr. Rainwater. Yes. Mr. Tford. Yes. Mr. Pow. Yes. Thank you, Chief. All right. Anything council department reports questions from you gentlemen for these guys? I saw my list. What is it?

Oh, Grant. We should have done this earlier. And I don't can't believe I didn't do it earlier. Casey, would you come to the front, please? I'm busting at the scene to tell you, but I'm going to let him do it. Busting at something to tell you. I should have done this when we had a crowd. The mayor and I went to Little Rock uh on October 30th to address the state um office of outdoor recreation for a grant for our inclusive park. And I got noticed this morning that they awarded us $494,000.

Is that for the park? So is that it? That's it. We have everything. We'll have a a million dollar park. Excellent. For $275,000 used to be a cap at 250 max. This state park, correct? State park. And this takes care of the loan with Farmers Bank essentially. And you don't really need Yeah, we've got that covered. But I mean, you don't really need that loan now, do you? You can just take the $10,000 a year and

more or less. I think that we can do some shuffling to make it a little more efficient, but we've got it sorted out. Casey did an amazing job to this panel. They changed it a little bit. When I used to go, it was called 15 minutes of fame. You got to stand there in a in a very odd situation and talk to these people. Not odd, but it was it was kind of high pressure. So, this time they changed it. It went from you thought it was eight minutes and they gave him six and and then he was in the middle of a point he was making and they gave him he got to finish his sentence. He did a great job and that's the reason we got it. So great job

got a race for employee of the year. I know. All right. Anybody anything for any of these other council? If not, we we'll go to council forum. I'm sorry. Yes, sir. Wait, council forum. Yep.

Okay. Uh playing on Casey's. So, the in city and town, the Arkansas Municipal League is having a grant writing and management certification workshop on May or March the 5th, 2026. Hey, I can't tell anybody to be there, but I wish the administration would probably have Casey go uh the commission I think this would be great for the city uh fire department fire chief you're going is this the one that's using AI is this is it using AI now that

it's a grant writing workshop and they explain all the grants that are out there and we usually have somebody attend but Casey might go down there and teach the thing this year Well, I just wish we'd have good representation down there. Uh, I would think that water commission should be sending somebody down. So, I agree. I preach this sermon quite often. Grants, grants, grants. They get tired of hearing it and I I preach that sermon. I would just like to say good repres. But I would encourage anybody

and I'm not saying all the time, but a lot of times we don't meet their requirements because of our Yeah, there's there's many many that we don't and that's sad. I think we're too stupid. Never hurts to go and get the training and education and get that certification because they're they're offering certification this year. Uh on that, you know, I read it through the Arkansas Municipal League city and town, and I didn't realize our commissions do not get that city and town. Commissioners commissioners do not get that city and town. Do you get it, Travis?

I I would like whatever we have to do to get that sent to those commissioners. I'd like to do that. President, he can hold the president of the He's a church. I've heard he's in church. He's full of himself. I will I'll ask about that. I'm going to Little Rock Wednesday for executive committee meeting. I'll ask when you ask. Steve's not getting it. You're not getting it? No. Well, you got to be here. The sticker says honorable Tim. So, so the water commission and commission, I wish those commissioners could get that. whatever we have to do. I don't think that'd be a problem. Okay.

We'll get we'll get on the mail list. Okay. I'll do my best. Anything else? Council forum. Thanks. Uh yes, sir. Go ahead. I do have something. Since since she's waited the whole time, Stacy Smith, I I'm sitting there thinking there's probably not been a family that's done more logged service hours in Greenwood, Arkansas than that family. So Stacy, we give her an award here several years ago because she worked how many years over here at the you know you give it to her? Several

at the recycling center every Saturday. Every Saturday she sit over and read a book and unload stuff.

And then Tim was always active in our scout troop. He was always the treasure. But they had three boys that went through and uh Shane Smith built trail, a lot of trail and put in benches along the the lake. He did a great job. Loged a lot of hours and did a really good job with the trail he built. It's still there. And then Wesley built the hammock park up in Bell Park. And then Trey did the biggest bridge that'll ever be built by hand out at Greenwood Lake with those I-beams that he carried down through there were 700 lb a piece from the road

all the way from the road. It inspired Mr. Ham so much the mechanical engineer lived up on the road that he'd come down there just in awe all the time. visited with Trey, talked him was talking to him about going into engineering and and he did. He went into medical he started out mechanical, went on to medical engineering and has graduated. He works for Sandy and Brad Johnson now stitching up idiots like me. So, but that family has ha has to have more hours logged than any other family in Greenwood. Thank you for all that.

Y The only thing that you didn't do at the recycling center was make those little videos like Jim Reynolds did.

Good. Yeah. Yeah. He he uh Yeah. No, he did he did good over there, too. But we appreciate your service. One other thing, your family. Yes, sir. One other thing, Tom. I I'm sorry for coming off kind of curt to you. If there's any one person that does their job in Greenwood, it's you. You're very diligent at your job. Uh you have the answers. So, I'm firing the questions and and I'm going into this still mad over trash. So, trash gets me pretty stirred up. Charlotte knows. Yeah. Are you talking about the courts? No, I mean he's talking about the trash in the house.

I I think it's greater than what's implied. By the way, I always trash people. I'm going there first thing in the morning. Make us look good.

Yeah. N by the way to council if you are in town in the morning nine Lee Johnson will be here in the morning to answer questions that department heads and Bob whoever I mean you're all invited uh we can bombard him kind of sort of but he's going to come to just answer questions that we've all kind of been making a list so if you got any questions about anything one of the main things we're I invited him for was the 911 consolidation They have an unfunded mandate. It's kind of hard to do something when there's no money. And a brief update on that. I don't know if you've been keeping up with that at all. I'm on the board, which is scary for me. I'm not sure I like to be on the board, but I am. Everything that has been voted on to put in place moving forward with that has now been voted to stop. So, the building the the uh what's the company

you talking about consolidating the dispatch stuff? Yes, sir. Everything stopped because it got a little out of hand really quick. Motorola the Motorola all that has been stopped. We're starting over. There was plans if you had if you heard there was plans they bought the whole hog Yeah. Right. building and to add to it and it became a $5 million building. Then there was $5 million on the road to roll aside. All of that stopped everything. So, well, that's good. If it doesn't cost that much, we're we're not being fined anymore.

They're they're going to seek hopefully I'm speaking correctly. Jeff's not here. Yep. PD system. radio. That's the That's the request.

Going back to the drawing board. system.

So Stacy, if you make it to Little Rock, we're we're upset that you take our sales tax money away from us and give it to people buy you billboards and contractors and we're mad that we have complicated problems and y'all are threatening to find us. So, do the affected communities know yet that there's a cause?

Yeah, I believe they know because because it became apparent it became shockingly apparent one evening uh that I don't want to there's a lot of good people working on this but it became apparent that Fort Smith city directors did not know how far this had gone as in the sense of I believe even they didn't know they had bought property on Burl Road or some of these things so it stopped and got rained in

or got rained in and so what what was presented to these smaller town I'm on the board to represent smaller communities smaller than us right our part in this was going to run $180,000 a year for three years and then back to whatever it was 60,000 I don't care what it was that's way too much money for us but yet we probably could have managed it Huntington as an example they went from this number is not true but they went from $1,000 to 6500 They can't They can't physically do that. They can't They literally have no money to do that with.

That might be their entire budget. Absolutely. And it was Huntington, Hartford, Mansfield, all those. We meet together with Judge Hoes, Hackett. Uh we meet with Judge Hoes and Mark Allen once a month or once every two months or so. And so those meetings are them going what this can't we can't do

and one of the questions presented to the board from somebody I can't remember who asked what are you going to do if we can't pay for it and it was almost alluded to that you don't have the service and somebody else spoke over over that and said oh no you can't deny them 911 service that's what they told us but we weren't going to pay before yeah I know so it's stopped it has beened I've never I I slept better that night than I slept in a long time knowing that happened real quick. I don't sleep anyway. That was better. So that's what that is. That was well that didn't work.

We do agree with the premise that collectively we're all going to work better together instead of have all these little paradigms. Yeah. No, nobody in any of those little communities disagree. They agree that it needs to happen. needs to happen. Plus, it's the law. It's a mandate. So, anyway, there's that. Uh, any other thing for C or council for say Dr. Lee is going to be here tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. morning at 9:00 a.m. I do want I do want to say before we do have anything else. Oh, I'm sorry. Give us some dates.

How about next week? either Wednesday or Thursday. Is that good for you?

I'm going to th next Thursday. Okay. 11th. So, it'll have to be Well, what about Tuesday the 9th? Is that No, it's 11th or legislative audit meeting. 11 Thursday. Did you want to do the the commissions first since they already?

Do you want a third one in there or just parks and water? But department I mean

we have Okay. So what date are we looking at? Does the not look good for anybody? No, it does not look good for me. Not. Okay. Well, it has to be following week then, huh? We already have and meeting on the 15th and 16th. Planning Commission. Commission 18. So either the Wednesday the 17th or No. Say the 16th, 17th, 18th. I'm clear. Yeah. 16th, 17, 18th. 17th. How many I mean

commission going there? So the 15th I'm good with the 15th. So that's when we're going to do the first one. Water sewer parks.

Yeah. You'll do another one Thursday. Same week. Tuesday and Thursday. Tuesday. How many What did we just put out? Tuesday. No, Monday. Monday. Monday. Monday the 15th. We have water, sewer, and park. What's six? 18. And then I mean if you wonder the 18th I mean we could we have that Christmas party that day. 17th there's a Christmas party that

employee lunch be leftover goodies. Yeah. What's that one on the 18th? 18th. I work for a living. I don't get to come to all these functions. Did y'all want that to do that the same week at then? 17th 18th. 17th or 18th. He doesn't like Wednesdays. Friday evening. Can we do the 18th? 18th. Yeah. 15th of the 18th. All right. They can do the 18th if you can. 18th. Okay. All right. So, what departments would you like then? Police, fire, street.

We're doing me and me we the three of us we're fixing to I mean that's two two weeks away so cops prior who we will meet prior to that so not street and you want police fire and planning or 18th st going on. It's not all about you.

All right. So, cops, planning, and who for grabbing fire? Animal control. Police. Police control. Animal control and planning. Okay. Animal controls finally got their own people. How about the 22nd? Yeah. How about the 22nd? There is a water commission. You mean that not I mean no there's not no water for December. I have in my phone but no we can do the 22nd 18th. They don't have one. So you want to do the 22nd? 22nd. I'm good. Is that for general stuff?

It' be fire. But I mean, will you by then? You will. You will. You will. She will. He will. Everybody will. Just take out all trucks, new employees, and save us a lot of time. Street on the 22nd. Street and fire. That the 22nd. Street and fire. Yeah. Okay.

And general general be January 3rd. You want to be general after Christmas? What date is? Yeah. After Christmas. You want the 29th? What's the last date you? Uh 26. December 31st. I'm not doing anything. Trust me. Do you want to try to do How about the third get pulled over that Tuesday? Do you still want to try everything in December? You want to try to get this thing adopted before the first year? Is that what we're trying to do? I'm going. Wouldn't that be great? Oh, wait. You want to side bit side? It's not. It's going to be first of year and I want it to be January sec. January the 6th for general.

You want to just set the next meeting at the 22nd? Yeah, we set the sec the January. I mean on that 22nd. Oh, set the next. Do you want to set the the next meeting? That way you'll see how far along you are with I say January I say January 6th. There's no way it's going to meet between Christmas and 1st. That's the day after our council meetings. Yeah. We have council meeting on the 5th. So we got six. Do you want to try to go ahead and schedule that then? January the 6th. That work for you, Tom for general and all. It's probably not good for me, but it's all right. I mean, well, that's it.

If you go ahead and and do the 22nd, then you can kind of see where you're at. And I mean, it's possible you could even just pencil in the six that way. Just reserve the six just in case. We got the 15th, 18th, 22nd, and January 6th. Yep. Yeah. All right. Well, those are two and we're set.

If we can get general done by January 6, I feel like we're in great shape. Everybody all right? Good. We need medical help up here. Water and parks the 15th. The 18th is police planning and animal control. 22nd Street and Fire. Yep. Right. And then we'll discuss general at the 22nd meeting. Unless y'all unless we had a light agenda on the city council meeting when you did that night. That's on the 5th.

Wow. There she is. Everybody, Danielle Smith.

All right. Good on the dates. Yes. We'll see how it goes. I'll make a motion we sec I want to throw in another prayer request for Danielle's mother-in-law who is not doing well. Is in Little Rock. So, she's been battling cancer for 30 years. No, 18 years and now not doing well. So, remember her. What's her first name? Carolyn Smith. And a reminder quick parade coming up. Follow that with the parade. I'm sorry. Don't forget bean feeds at 5 5:30. Uh something a line up at 5:30. If you're in the parade, parades at 7. Motion to adjurnn. I'll

make a motion to journ. Second. Roger. Thanks, sir. Good to be here. You're a miracle worker.

What was he doing? Now about I know she's