Planning & Zoning Commission - Regular Meeting

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[Music] good evening everyone recording in progress welcome to the March 17th 2025 Greensboro Planning and Zoning meeting my name is Katherine maggot I am the chair of the commission and now like to hear from the other Commissioners would you introduce themselves to you starting from the right uh I'm Betty Turner waret Downing Keith Peterson Sandra oon you steu Nichols thank you and Miss glass is going to be a few minutes late members of the commission are appointed by the Greensboro mayor or city council members have taken an oath of office and serve without pay the Commissioners review all original zoning and rezoning requests for the city of Greensboro each commissioner normally visits each site prior to this meeting all Commissioners are required to vote unless they have a conflict of interest when speaking here tonight please direct all questions and comments to the zoning commission only the chair or commissioners will if

needed ask the staff or attorney to comment on the question please note that this meeting is being conducted in person and online and is being recorded and televised on the Greensboro television network gtn and closed caption for the hearing impaired I think you will notice when you came in there was a piece that you could pick up which was a handout which has the agenda as well as uh Rel related contact people from the city of Greensboro so if you your concern is not remedied here please use that when a case is called that you are interested in people wishing to speak in person will need to come to the podium when you are called upon to speak please state your name and address for the record participants attending on Zoom will be able to view the meeting and speak by using the raised hand function under the reaction button and will be called upon to speak in the order in which hands were raised please find the raised hand function under the reaction button now if anyone participating online needs help with zoom during this meeting please email Luke Carter lucas. Carter greensboro-nc.gov the procedure used at this public hearing is as followed planning staff presents background information and makes a recommendation the applicant will present a short summary of how he or she communicated with the neighborhood and why the request is reasonable any commission member may ask questions once the presenter has completed their presentation the applicant and those wanting to speak in favor of the requests will share a total of 10 minutes to speak speakers opposed to the request will share a total of 10 minutes to speak the applicant and those in

favor of the request will share five minutes of rebuttal time those in opposition to the request will share 5 minutes of rebuttal time the process after our deliberation all approved ordinances or denied cases receiving six or more favorable votes will constitute a final action unless an appeal is submitted in writing to the planning department and the appeal fee paid within 10 days all ordinance receiving less than six votes will be subject to a public hearing by the city city council all annexed ordinances receiving six or more votes will be favorably recommended and subject to a public hearing by the city council cases in which no opposition has been expressed to the planning department in which the commission members do not feel necessitates a discussion will be moved to the top of the agenda and will become the expedited agenda staff will provide a shortened presentation for those cases and the applicant will have two minutes to address the commission if they desire acknowledgements of absence um Miss glass will be here soon but we are all here when she rites the approval of the minutes I will entertain a motion to approve the February 17th minutes commissioner Nichols so moved thank you Mr uh Nicholson um Mr Gilmer all those in favor signify by raising your hand and saying I I anyone opposed that passes nine to 8 to zero now we'll need some insights from our City attorney Mr damp Bank thank you chair magot and good evening everyone um much of the Planning and Zoning commission's work this evening is going to relate to the consideration of um rezoning applications um I'd like to

remind everyone in in attendance that when the commission considers rezoning applications it's determinations are based on the land uses that are allowed under the zoning District that's in the application and any conditions that have been proposed by the applicant um land use impacts on public infrastructure are relevant in rezoning matters and it's important to know that the commission is not here to determine all details of the development um that involves staff input that goes beyond uh the scope of the commission's work if a rezoning would generate a certain amount of traffic flow um the Commissioners will have been provided with a summary traffic impact study uh meanwhile many site specific development features such as the means of storm water management are evaluated through the technical Review Committee um lastly concerns that are not related to land use are not gerain to the commission's consideration of rezoning applications uh for example generalized concerns about crime rates um and questions of who may own or or live at a subject property are not for the commission's consideration um if there are questions about matters that are not addressed uh this evening those may be referred to the planning department or city technical staff is appropriate thank you thank you so much um withdrawals and continuances Mr Kirkman I understand we have a withdra drawn case case z- 25- 02002 which is for 4325 and 4327 Summit Avenue was withdrawn by the applicant no actions needed by the commission okay thank you so much um have they asked for a continuance uh they decided to withdraw their app enely so there's no no action needed by the commission okay it's my understanding that we have two cases tonight in opposition so I will read the expedited cases first okay Z 25-2 d005

1872 Andrews Farm Road z253 d001 2906 York house Ro Drive Z 2-3-2 34 yoke house York House Drive Z 25-34 4334 Blackberry Road z- 25- 03-005 a portion of blackberry Road z- 25- 03- 006 155 rail Street Z 25-37 1606 young Mills Road Z 25-03-2019 15117 BTO place and z25 d03 d01 0 600 Gilford College Road I'd like to take a moment to make sure that no one here in the chamber or or online has opposition to any of those cases seeing none will proceed to the expedited agenda thank you chair magot do you want to read the inro slide there or I can't can can you read the introduction yeah thank you thank you item PLP 25- 06- Z 25-2 d005 an annexation and original zoning request from the County ag agricultural to City

cdr3 conditional District residential single family 3 for the property identified as 1872 Andrews Farm Road generally described as west of Andrews Farm Road and North of McConnell Road 12.52 Acres Mr Carter thank you chair magot this is the zoning map of the subject property which shows that it contains approximately uh 12.51 two acres um in the surrounding area you will find um County zoning um you've got County a to the north county rs40 to the or to the east um County a to the East County a to the South and to the West um this is the aerial map of the subject property showing that it is currently undeveloped um there's undeveloped land to the uh North single family dwellings to the uh to the east single family dwellings and agricultural uses to the South and uh agricultural uses and single family dwellings and undeveloped land to the east or to the West this is the condition that was proposed by the applicant and in recommending approval staff notes that the gso 2040 comprehensive plan currently designates um the the property as exurban excuse me on the future built form map and as residential on the future land use map uh if this original zoning uh is approved when it goes to council the future built form map will be considered to be amended to General the proposed original zoning request supports the comprehensive plans creating great places goal to expand Greensboro Citywide network of unique neighborhoods offering residents of all

walks of life a variety of quality housing choices the proposed cdr3 zoning District as condition permits uses in the utilities use group and the addition of a public utility at this location would facilitate future development on surrounding properties and I can answer any questions that you have at this time thank you Mr Carter does the commission have any questions at this point okay seeing none would the applicant like to make any comments you have up to two minutes you a te up here think so it's just a reminder two minutes okay okay Mr Fox just reminding you two minutes yes thank you thank you sorry we're just I wanted to show you one map okay and they're working on getting that up there we go thank you thank you good evening my name is Mike Fox and I'm here representing the applicant Duke Energy Carolinas uh we have a number of Duke Energy folks with us should you have any questions primarily Hank Henning who is the district manager for community and government relations knowing that we're on your expedited agenda we will be very brief uh this is for a utility substation and to some degree it uh reflects uh the good work that your board has been doing for the past several years this is the slide I really wanted to show you these are all the new residential homes that this board has approved for annexation into the city going back I think the oldest one is Maybe 2021 but uh essentially up to almost

3600 new units so Duke Energy identified a need to serve this area better Mr Henning can talk about why that is uh if you have questions but um note also that there are two other industrial centers nearby Rock Creek as well as the Carolina corpor Center uh so there is a great demand for additional power and energy in this area uh not only to serve these new developments but to make sure that the folks that are living there right now uh maintain good service as well so um H did you want to add anything quickly we got a few more seconds so so the need is based on capacity of our existing substations to serve this area two of them one we project both of them by 2030 one will be in the low 70s as far as capacity the other one will be at capacity about 98 99% so so this will alleviate those substations by about 50% that's our goal when we site new substations and so this one will handle the growth that Mike just mentioned I would I'm I'm G to give you a little bit more time to speak thank you yeah yes would you um Hank you need to uh say your name and address for the record my apologies Hank Henning 2500 Fairfax Road Greensboro 27 for thank you very much Mr H if you'd like to add some something else I'm giving you the Liberty to you have 18 seconds and I'll give you maybe an additional 30 because this is important and I'd like to hear what you have to say I I would also like to add too we've had extensive Communications with the surrounding property owners who had recently had a neighborhood meeting just on this particular application uh and answered questions I think six people attended total uh and uh We've made sure that the site is well buffered and that there will not be any negative impact on any of the surrounding

neighbors and that the positive impact will be their electricity will be uh more robust and more reliable that's right yeah the only thing I would add is we we we went above and beyond the city's requirement we went to uh 900 fet instead of the required um believe 5 500 feet in terms of notification in terms of notification so we we doubled the number of homes we wanted to reach in case there were neighbors who wanted to come in to our community meet and ask questions thank you that was important to hear we appreciate it um so seeing none no op no objection I will close the is there any comment would the Commissioners like to say anything ask a quick question um I I think I know the answer to this but I just want to be clear what equipment and what function uh takes place at a substation so so the purpose of a substation I did have a a slide on this is to deliver the power from the the power plants the generating plants through the transmission lines and the the substations are the distribution point where it comes out to our homes and businesses and so forth so within the substation will be a series of Transformers um Brian do you want to come up here and answer this more a technical question um but it's really it's just really circuits and Transformers and power lines coming out of it we're going to attach to the existing grid that's already there which is why this is such an ideal spot for us thank you any other questions um miss Mr Henning in terms of the 12 acres 12 and a half acres you have here um do you have a an approximation of how much will be used for this substation yeah great question so out of the 12 acres we're going to be using just under two acres of it uh we we

actually picked it all because of the buffering we want buffers we in addition to wanting to be good neighbors we also want it to be hidden from View and actually you can see on the picture the way that we tilted it and so since the road curves there's going to be it's going to be challenging vantage point for people to drive down the road and know that it's even in there so not only will the neighbors be not be able to see it the car is coming along the the RADS and you can see we're keeping as much buffering as we possibly can thank you um and and I have one question which you've answered but I wanted to know how much um usage would be provided by bringing this you know to lower your number of 97% right now you're up to that capacity sir yeah so like I said when we when we are citing these we look to to alleviate about 50% over time from the other substations that serve serve this area what we do is we have what we call a load Center and we actually draw a radius around that area that we need to serve and we try to locate the substations right in the center of those um load Center areas thank you very much so we're going to close the public hearing and I would entertain a motion thank you very much appreciate you both um commissioner Keith Peterson item z- 25- 02-005 the greensbor planning zoning commission we need to vot on annexation first yes annexation I'm moving fast okay okay so first make a motion to Annex Mr commotion Annex and it's PLP PLP 25-06 1872 Andrews Farm Ro commissioner give a second thank you Mr Peterson and Mr Gilbert now we have to take a vote on that correct so um uh all those in favor signify by raising your hand and saying

I all those opposed that passed 8 to zero now we'll take the motion Mr Peterson all right sorry commissioner Keith Peterson item z- 25- 02-005 the Greensboro Planning and Zoning commission believes that his action to recommend approval of the original zoning request for the property at 1872 Andrews Farm Road from County ag agricultural to City cd- R-3 conditional District residential single family 3 to be consistent with the adopted gso 2040 comprehensive plan and considers the action taken to be reasonable and in the Public's best interest for the following reasons the request is consistent with the comprehensive plans future built form map and future land use map the proposed City cd- R-3 zoning District as condition permits uses that fit the context of the surrounding area and limits negative impacts on the adjacent properties the request is reasonable due to the size physical condition and other ATT in the area it will benefit the property owner and surrounding Community approval in the Public's best interest and I need a second commissioner Gilmer second thank you Mr Peterson and Mr Gilmer I'd just like to say that in the last vote for the annexation we were all here so it's nine to zero and now we will take a vote all those in favor raise your hand and say I I all those oppose that pass N9 to zero this constitutes a favorable recommendation and is subject to a public hearing at the Tuesday April 15th 2025 city council meeting the next item PLP 25-11 and Z

25-31 an annexation and original zoning request from County CZ PDR Su conditional Zone own in plan development residential with special use permit to City R3 residential single family for the properties identified as 296 York House Drive and 2806 Chillin Court generally described as east of CastleCraft Road and North of Chillin Court 505 acres and Miss Harrison thank you chair maget this emiss shows the zoning map and it shows that the subject properties contain approximately 505 acres and are located east of cacro Road and North of chillen Court this is an annexation and original zoning request from County CZ PDR Su which is conditional zoning planned development residential with a special use permit for subdivision signage to City R3 residential single family 3 north east south and west of the request are Zone County CZ PD R sup conditional zoning plant development residential with a special use permit this image shows the aerial map and the subject properties are currently undeveloped Noth of the request contains single family dwellings east and west of the request contain single family dwellings and undeveloped Land South of the request contains undeveloped land and I

73 this image shows the subject properties as seen from Castle cth Road the gso 2040 comprehensive plan designates this site as Urban General on the future built form map and residential on the future land use map the proposed original zoning request supports both the comprehensive plans creating great places goal to expand greensboro's city-wide network of unique neighborhoods offering residents of all walks of life a variety of quality housing choices and the building Community connections goal to maintain stable attractive and healthy places to live and raise families the proposed City R3 zoning district is primarily intended to accommodate low density single family detached residential development of up to three dwelling units per acre the uses permitted in the proposed zoning District are compatible with the existing use uses located on adjacent tracks and I can answer any questions thank you does the commission have any questions seeing none would the applicant like to make any comments you have up to two minutes I don't believe the applicant is here okay um thank you Miss Harrison um we will close the public hearing now and I will entertain a motion Sandra Connor I'd like to move annexation for Z 25031 2906 your cast drive and 2806 chilling Court

commission thank you Miss OK Conor Miss Turner and now we will take a vote all those in favor signify by raising your hand and saying I I all those opposed that passes 9 to Zer and now we need the Mone motion I'll make motion um the greens B of Planning and Zoning commission believes that its action to recommend approval of the original zoning request for the properties at 2906 York House Drive and 2806 chilling Court from County CZ PDR Su conditional zoning plan development residential with a special use permit to City R3 residential single family free to be consistent with the adopted gso 2040 comprehensive plan and considers the action taken to be reasonable and in the public interest for the following reasons the request is consistent with the comprehensive plans futurebuilt form map and future land use map the proposed City R3 zoning District permits uses that fit the context of the surrounding area and limits negative impacts on the adjacent properties the request is reasonable due to the size physical conditions and other attributes of the area it will benefit the property owner and surrounding community and approval is in the public interest thank you Mr Connor and now we will take a vote well I need a second thank you Mr turn and now we will take a vote all those in favor please signify by raising your arm and saying I I all those opposed that passes 9 to zero and that constitutes a favorable recommendation and is subject to a public hearing on Tuesday April 15 2025 city council meeting thank you Miss

Harrison and the next item is an an an item PLP 25-22 and Z 25-32 an annexation and original zoning request from County CZ PDR Su conditional zoning plan development residential with a special use permit to City R3 residential single family 3 for the property identified as 30004 York House Drive generally described as west of Castle crof Road and North of York House Drive 289 acres in Miss Harrison thank you chair maget this is an image of the zone map and the subject property contains 289 of an acre and is located west of cacro Road and North of York house drive this is an annexation and original zoning request from County CZ PD rsup which is conditional zoning PL development residential with special use permit for um subdivision signage to City off three residential single family 3 north east south and west of request are Zone County CZ PD rsup conditional zoning plan development residential with a special use permit this is the aerial map showing the subject properties currently undeveloped north and east of the request contain single family dwellings south of the request contains I 73 West of the request Quest contain common

element the gso 2040 comprehensive plan designates this site as Urban General on the future built form map and residential on the future land use map the proposed original zoning request supports both the comprehensive plans creating great places goal to expand greens Spar Citywide network of unique neighborhoods offering residents of all walks of life a variety of quality housing choices and the building Community connections goal to maintain stable attractive and healthy places to live and raise families the proposed City CR zoning district is primarily intended to accommodate low density single family detached residential development of up to three dwelling units per acre the uses permitted in the proposed zoning District are compatible with existing use located on adjacent tracks and I can answer any questions thank you m Harrison would the applicant like to make any comments you have up to two minutes I don't believe the applicant is here so seeing none we will close the public hearing I will entertain a motion first we have to do the annexation yes motion to Annex uh for annexation z253 2 34 York House Drive will you announce the PLP number as well please that's the annexation number we need that's sorry PLP 25-12 thank you so much Miss Turner um and could I get a second please seconded thank you Mr Nichols all right now we'll take a vote all those in favor signify by raising your arm and saying I I all those opposed that passes 9 to zero now we need the

motion thank you Mr Turner um motion for um for the matter which is couny or 3004 York House Drive um z232 the Greensboro Planning and Zoning commission believe believes that its action to recommend approval of the original zoning request for the property at 34 yorkhouse drive from County CZ pdrs conditional zoning planned development residential with a special use per permit to City R3 residential single family 3 to be consistent with the adopted gso 2040 comprehensive plan and considers the action taken to to be reasonable and in the public interest for the following reasons one the request is consistent with the comprehensive pl's future built format and future land use map two the proposed City R3 zoning District permits use that fit uses that fit the context of the surrounding area and limits negative impacts on the adjacent properties three the request is reasonable due to the size physical conditions and other attri Utes of the area it will benefit the property owner and surrounding community and approval is in the public interest thank you Miss Turner and I'll do a better job explaining that the annexation goes first when it does um now we'd like to take a vote all of those in effect I'll second the motion thank you for seconding the motion M Miss o Conor so now we will take a vote all those in favor signify by saying I and raising your hand I I all those opposed that pass is 9 to Z this

constitutes a favorable recommendation and is subject to a public hearing at the Tuesday April 15 2025 city council meeting the next item expedited item is item PLP 25-13 and z25 - 03- 004 an annexation and original zoning request from County ag agricultural to City cdr3 conditional District residential single family 3 for the properties identified as 4334 4340 and 4342 Blackberry Road generally described as west of blackberry Road West of Wild Wolf Drive and south of Old randman Road 10 .2 acres and item PLP 25-3 and z25 03-005 and annexation and original zoning request from County ag agricultural to City R3 residential single family 3 for the property identified as a portion of blackberry Road RightWay generally described is BlackBerry Road West of Wild Wolf Drive and south of Old randman Road and south of old randomman road8 acres and this is a zoning and also the right of way and that's why we've combined them together Mr Nelson thank you chair Magan this is the zoning map of the area showing that the property currently contains uh 11 acres and are located west of blackberry Road West of Wild Wolf Drive and the portion of blackberry Road rway as you stated in the front there so there are three

separate requests with this being heard PLP 25-13 is the annexation request for the properties and the two zoning requests uh the property is currently zoned County ag Agricultural and they're requesting uh City cdr3 Residential single family 3 and the property currently contains a uh single family dwelling and other uh accessory structures north and west the re our Zone County ag agricultural east and south the request our Zone City R3 uh residential single family 3 this is the arrow map of the of the proximity showing that the subject properties currently contain the single family dwellings and a portion of the road R of way uh north of the request contains single family dwellings and rway as well east of the request contains single family dwellings and common elements south of request contains a religious assembly use and Road out of way and rest of the request contain single family dwellings and undeveloped land this is the condition that was requested by the applicant and advertised with the request and in recommending approval of the request staff noted that the gso 240 comprehensive plan currently designates similar nearby properties as ex Urban on the future built form map and residential on the future land use map if this original zoning request is approved the future build built form designation for these subject site is considered to be amended to Urban General uh the proposed original zoning request supports both the comprehensive plans creating great places goal to expand Greensboro Citywide network of unique neighborhoods offering residents of all walks of life a variety of quality housing choices and staff noted that the proposed cdr3 zoning District as conditioned limits Building height to a maximum it's say 50 ft there but it's

actually 20 ft per the condition with the from the applicant and that the proposed AR3 zoning district is primarily intended to accommodate low density single family detach residential development of the food dwelling units per acre uh the uses permitted in this District are compatible with existing uses located on adjacent tracks and have to answer any questions thank you does the commission have any questions if not would the applicant like to make any comments thank you Mr um Nelson up to two minutes you can speak okay Mr Blackwood um has declined sign so seeing none uh nothing um without further objection we'll close the public hearing and I will entertain a motion first for the annexation and then for the zoning commissioner Keith Pon I make a motion in reference to PLP D 25-13 and ACC request of 4334 4340 and 4342 Blackberry Road for annexation commissioner Nicholls second I believe that covers it yes uh thank you U Mr Peterson and M Mr um Nicholls uh now we will vote all those in favor raise your hand and signify by saying I I all those opposed that passes 9 to zero now we need a motion for the 3004 right away a zoning no the zoning the original zoning All Right This Is War down I'd like to make a motion regarding uh agenda item z253 004 for 4334 4340 and 4342 Blackberry Road the Greensboro Planning and Zoning commission believes that it's action to recommend approval of the

original zoning request for the properties at 4334 4340 and 4342 Blackberry Road from County ag cultural to City cdr3 conditional District residential single family 3 to be consistent with the adoped gso 240 comprehensive plan and considers the action taken to be reasonable and in the public interest for the following reasons number one the request is consistent with the comprehensive PL future built form map and future land use map number two the proposed city city R3 zoning District as condition permits uses that fit the contacts of the surrounding areas and limits a negative impacts on the adjacent properties number three the request is reasonable due to the size physical conditions and other attributes of the area it would benefit the property owner and surrounding community and approval is in the public interests thank you Mr Downing I need a second please commissioner Erica glass a second thank you Miss glass and now we will vote all those in favor signify by raising your hand and saying I I all those opposed that passes 9 to Z and now we need the additional um zoning a motion for that the right of way is that the PLP 25-06 no it's the 03-005 would you like to do thank you Miss glass commissioner Erica glass the Greensboro planning and Zoning commission believes that its action to recommend approval of the original zoning request for the property at uh excuse me for the property at a portion of blackberry Road right of way from County ag agriculture to City R3

residential single family 3 to be consistent with the adopted gso 2040 comprehensive plan it considers the action taken to be reasonable and in the public interest for the following reasons the request is cons consistent with the comprehensive plan's future built format and future land use map to the proposed City R3 zoning District permits uses that fit the context of the surrounding area and limits negative impacts on the adjacent properties number three the request is reasonable due to the size physical conditions and other attributes of the area and it will benefit the property owner and surrounding community and approval is in the public interest thank you Miss glass and I need a second s Conor thank you Conor okay now we will take a vote all those in favor signify by raising your hand and saying I I all those opposed that that passes N9 to zero both of these constitutes a favorable recommendation and they are both subject to a public hearing on Tuesday April 15th 20125 at the city council meeting thank you our next item is z 25-36 a resoning request from R5 residential single family 5 to R7 residential single family 7 for the property identified as 1505 gell Street generally described as north of Gill Street and West of South O Henry Boulevard 25 acres thank you Mr Carter thank you chair mag this is the zoning map of the subject property um showing that the the subject property contains approximately 0.25 acres and the resoning request is from R5 to R7 um the subject property currently

contains two single family dwellings uh when you went to the site you probably noticed that there was a board of adjustment sign there as well as the uh as the rezoning sign so this rezoning uh would clear the way for the property to be subdivided um based on density but there would still be dimensional standards that they would need variances from that's why the board of adjustment sign is there so just wanted to make that quick note thank you for that Clarity um north south and west of the request are zoned R5 and uh east of the request is zoned R7 this is the aerial map of the subject property in the surrounding area north south and uh west of the request have single family dwellings and east of the request have uh have duplexes multif family dwellings in recommending approval of this request staff notes that the gso 240 comprehensive plan designates this property as Urban General on the future built form map and is residential on the future land use map the site is also located on a periphery of the winter The Windsor Chavis noo Activity Center the proposed resoning request supports the comprehensive plans filling in our framework goal to arrange land uses for a more vibrant and livable Greensboro and the creating great places goal to expand Greensboro Citywide network of unique neighborhoods offering residents of all walks of life a variety of quality housing choices the proposed R7 zoning district is primarily intended to accommodate loads Mo to moderate single family residential developments the overall gross density in R7 is uh shall not exceed seven units per acre the request would permit uses that are present on adjacent tracks and with that I can answer any questions that you have thank you do we have any

questions okay then we will close the public hearing and I will entertain a motion for the resoning commissioner Nichols will make the motion thank you in the matter z25 oh I guess first we have to can we do one thing sorry I'm sorry does the applicant wish to say anything is the applicant here applicant is here would you like to say I'm sorry I thank you yeah I'm sorry and I think I need a second someone needs to second the motion I think first make the motion and then we'll do the second it's this is a rezoning it's a regular in the matter Z 25-36 the Greensboro planning and zoning commission believes that its action to recommend approval of the rezoning request for the property at 1505 gell street from R5 residential single family to R7 residential single family 7 to be consistent with the adopted gso 240 comprehensive plan and considers the action taken to be reasonable and in the public interest for the following reasons one the request is consistent with the comprehensive plan's future built form map and future land use map two the proposed R7 zoning District permits uses that fit the context of the surrounding area and limits negative impacts on the adjacent properties three the request is reasonable due to the size physical conditions and other attributes of the area it will benefit the property owner and surrounding community and approval is in the public interest second thank you Mr Peterson oh Mr Downing thank you so much it's we're it's a little bit confusing because with

the annexation it's fast and then we do the second right away so um I would um uh like to take a vote now all those in favor signify by saying I am raising your hand I all those opposed that passes nine to zero and Mr um sanza um this approval con constitutes a final action unless an appeal is submitted in writing to the planning department and an appeal fee paid within 10 days anyone May file such appeal all such appeals will be subject to a public hearing on Tuesday April 15 2025 city council meeting all adjoining property owners will be notified of any such appeals thank you for coming the next item on our agenda is item PLP 25- 14 and z 25-37 and annexation and original zoning request from County ag agricultural to cdli conditional District light industrial for properties identified as a portion of 3725 and a portion of 3739 and all of 3751 McConnell Road generally described as east of McConnell Road north of I40 and west of i840 32 West of I 840 I apologize that that's a that is my mistake um the subject property is 16006 uh Young's Mill Road and that uh the ident the property is located south of Young's Mill Road and East of circle View Drive that's I apologize for that it's my mistake okay so we had the wrong street address wrong okay so yes the wrong word this is this is in regard to

16006 that's correct Youngs Mill Road yes okay thank you very much and this is an rm5 that's correct so okay what the screen should say is that um this is po 2514 and z- 25-37 which is correct but this is um 46006 Young's Mill Road and it is an annexation and original zoning request from County rs40 to City R5 and the property is located uh south of young Mill Road and East of circle View Drive and the property is approximately 0.9 Acres apologize thank you Mr Carter all right would the um would the applicant like to make any comments or have you presented it at all will you present it let me let me go through the surrounding zonings and you thrown us off here okay thank you we'll hear from you first so this is the zoning map of the subject property um subject property is currently vacant and you'll notice that to the north there are single family dwellings zoned County rs20 and uh to the east south and west are single family dwellings with all zoned County rs40 this is the um areal map showing the single family dwellings on all sides in recommending approval of this request staff notes that the gso 240 comprehensive plan designates the site as Urban General on the future built form map and residential on the future land use map the proposed original zoning request supports both the comprehensive plans creating great places gold to expand greensboro's Citywide network of unique neighborhoods offering residents of all walks of life a variety of quality housing choices and the filling in our framework big idea to

arrange our land uses for where we live work attend school shop and enjoy our free time to create a more vibrant and livable Greensboro the proposed R5 zoning district is primarily intended to accommodate low density single family detached residential development up to five units per acre the request permits uses that are present on adjacent tracks and with that I can answer any questions that you have thank you Mr Carter does the commission have any questions seeing none with the applicant like to make any comments you have up to two minutes I believe you're here Mr rer okay thank you very much um seeing none without further objection we'll close the public hearing I will entertain a motion commissioner Keith P I make a motion that we an the annexation thank you Annex 16006 young Mills rooll as p- 25-14 commiss G second thank you Mr Peters and Mr Gilmer okay now we will take a vote all those in favor signify by raising your arm and saying I I all those opposed that passes 9 to zero now we need the regular motion commissioner Keith p and item z- 25- 03- 00007 the Greensboro plan and Zoning commission believes that his actions to recommend approval of the original zoning request for the property at 16006 younger Mill Road from County rs40 residential single family to City R5 residential single family 5 to be consistent with the adopted gso 2040 comprehensive plan and considers the action taken to be reasonable and in the Public's interest for the following reasons the request is consistent with uh comprehensive plans future built form map and future land use map the proposed City R5 zoning

District permits uses that fit the context of the around an area and limits negative impacts on the adjacent properties the request is reasonable due to the size physical condition and other attributes of the area it will benefit the property owner and surrounding community and approval is in the public interest thank you Mr Peterson I need a second commission Gil second thank you Mr Gilmore now we will take a vote all those in favor signify by raising your arm and saying I I all those opposed that passes 9 to Z um this constitutes a favorable recommendation and is subject to a public hearing at the April 15 2025 city council meeting the next item on our agendum is item z253 d008 a resoning request for CD rm8 conditional District residential multi family 8 to CD rm8 conditional District residential multifam 8 for the property identified as 706 and 730 Brigham Road generally described as each of Brigham Road and south of Pleasant Ridge Road 19.68 acres and this is a case that we heard previously that we're hearing again because of additional new uh conditions thank you hello Miss s thank you chairman again this is an image of the zoning map and the subject properties contain approximately 19.68 acres and are located east of Brigham Road and south of Pleasant Ridge

Road this is a resoning request from CD rm8 conditional District residential multif family 8 to CD rm8 conditional District residential multif family 8 north of the request is Zone BP Business Park East of the request is Zone BP Business Park and CD rm12 commissional District residential multif family 12 sou of the request is Zone CD rm18 conditional District residential multif family 18 and PUD planned unit development rest of the request is Zone R3 residential single family 3 BP Business Park and PUD plan unit development this is a image of the aerial map the subject properties con currently contain undeveloped land and agricultural land north of the request contains single family dwellings and a multi multi tenant office building building each of the request contains North Carolina Highway 68 multif family dwellings and undeveloped Land South of the request contains single family dwellings and multif family dwellings on the construction rest of the request contain single family dwellings multif family dwellings and undeveloped land the applicant has proposed two conditions and um these are the new conditions um with the associated with this

request in recommend and approval um staff um the gso 2040 comprehensive plan designate the site as Urban General on the future built form map the F the future land use map references the Western area plan the Western area plan designates the property as employment area the recommendations of this planning area Envision land use patterns that have not been realized and do not match with the uses on the ground the proposed resoning requires supports the comprehensive plans filling in our framework goal to arrange land uses for more vibrant and livable greensbor and creating great places goal to expand greensbor Citywide network of unique neighborhoods offering residents of all walks of life a variety of quality housing choices the proposed CD rn8 zoning District as conditioned would allow for multif family dwellings and uses that are compatible with the designated designation care should be taken with respect to building orientation building materials Building height and visible buffers to ensure an appropriate transition to the lower density residential uses on adjacent properties thank you m Harrison uh does the commission have any questions okay not a question but I see a lot of flipping going on um Miss Magan and I had the benefit of of talking to staff over this this is a case of changing one word what we approved last August was for 90 townhouse units and this request is to change the language to 90 dwelling units the only the only that's thank you I was going to point

that out but I appreciate it um uh chair scanes okay so would the applicant uh the applicant has up to eight two minutes to speak Miss Matthews would you like to come forward thank you good evening ma Madam uh mid and and members of the Commissioners um yes us please address 101 South Tron Street Charlotte North Carolina thank you for that um you stole my thunder but it was just going to be to provide that explanation uh conditional zonings are um you have to strike a fine balance between providing the city with certainty and spe specificity excuse me um and providing the developer with uh flexibility so so when this was before you before we aired on the side of specificity and so we are just changing that one word to allow for a variety of housing types um before it was limited to town homes uh and now we are um allowing or asking to be allowed to have a mixture of single family housing um and the the condition is a little bit wider than that to allow for that flexibility I'm here to answer any questions you might have does the commission have any questions now thank you for that Clarity that really helped tremendously um so seeing none we will close the public hearing and I will entertain a motion yes Madam chair i' like to make a motion for agenda item number z253 008 and the Greensboro Planning and Zoning commission believes that an action to recommend approval of the resoning request for the properties at 706 and 730 bringham Road from CDR M8 conditional District residential

multifam 8 to cdrm 8 conditional District residential multifam 8 to be consistent with the adopted gso 240 comprehensive plan and considers the action taken to be reasonable and in the public interest for the following reasons number one the request is consistent with the comprehensive plans future built form map and future land use map number two the proposed CD rm8 zoning District as condition permits uses that fit the context of the surrounding areas area and limits a negative impacts on the adjacent properties that one word matters number three the request is reasonable due to the size physical conditions and other attributes of the area it would benefit the property owner and surrounding community and approval is in the public interests thank you Mr Downing I need a second please second thank you than you Mr Nichols now we will take the vote all those in favor signify by saying I am raising your hand I all those opposed that passes 920 this approval constitutes a final action unless an appeal is submitted in writing to the planning department and the appeal fee paid within 10 days anyone May file such appeal all such appeals will be subject to a public hearing on Tuesday April 15 2025 city council meeting all adjoining property owners will be notified of any such appeal thank you the next item on our expedited agenda is z253 d009 a resoning request from CD o conditional district office to CD o conditional district office for the property identified as 1517 BTO Place generally described as west of BTO to

place and south of Phillips Avenue 46 Acres thank you Mr Carter thank you chair maggot this is the zoning map of the subject property showing that it is uh currently zoned conditional district office and the rezoning request is to go to conditioning district office this is very similar to the previous request where the uh original the current zoning District on the property is very um prescriptive and it limits the uses to just a couple uses and they are uh requesting a rezoning to another very prescriptive U zoning condition that would limit the uses to just a dayare center so that's that's the reason for the rezoning thank you north of the request is zoned conditional district office uh east and south of the request are zoned R5 and west of the request is zoned commercial low uh this is the area map of the subject property showing that it currently contains um it's a it's uh not occupied currently but it was a social service Facility North of the request is a religious assembly use east and south of the request contains single family dwellings and west of the request contains a religious assembly use and undeveloped land this is the um condition that was proposed by the applicant as you know it was um it's for a daycare center and in recommending approval of the request staff notes that the gso 2040 comprehensive plan designates the site as Urban General on the future built form map and residential on the future land use map the proposed resoning request supports both the comprehensive plans filling in our framework uh goal to arrange it's not both it's just the uh what I have listed here the comprehensive plans filling in our framework goal to arrange our land uses to create a more vibrant and livable Greensboro the proposed CD

office conditional District um as proposed limits uses available on the subject property to a daycare center the proposed use is complimentary to uh the surrounding area uh and I can answer any questions that you have at this time so just to clarify uh previously it was uh residents could live there and uh there could be housing and now they have um brought it down to just State Care Center that's one of the there all right so thank you um would the applicant like to make any comments we have up to two minutes oh thank you okay Mr Benjamin all right seeing none uh we will um and if there's no questions from the commission we will close the public hearing and I will entertain a motion for the resoning commissioner Chief Peterson item z-2 - 03- 009 the greensbor plan and Zoning commission believes that its actions to recommend approval of the resoning request for the property at 1517 BTO place from cd- o conditional district office the cd- O conditional district office to be consistent with the adopted gso 240 comprehensive plan and considers the action taken to be reasonable and in the Public's interest for the following reasons the request is consistent with the comprehensive plans future built form map and future land use map the proposed cd- o zoning District as condition permits the uses that fit the context of the surrounding area and limits negative impacts on adjacent properties the request is reasonable due to the size physical condition and other attributes of the

area it will benefit the property owner and surrounding community and approvals in the Public's interest thank you Mr Peterson do I have a second commissioner Gil second thank you Mr Gilmore um so we will take a vote all those in favor signify by saying I am raising your hand I all those opposed that passes 9 to Zer and I'd just like to say Miss Benjamin welcome to Greensboro I know you have a facility in High Point and we're glad to have you here in Greensboro as well the next item on our agenda Miss Z 25-3 010 a resoning request from PUD planned unit development to PUD plan unit development and consideration of the associated unified development plan for the properties identified as 2011 Easter Lane and 600 Guilford College Road and 930 and 950 and 955 Redford Parkway generally described as south of britford Parkway and west of Guilford College Road 20 75 Acres thank you Mr it's Mr Nelson thank you shair maggot this is the zoning map of the area showing that the sub properties contain approximately 20.75 acres and are located south of britford Parkway and west of Gilford College Road uh north of the request is Zone rm12 residential multif family 12 and hi heavy industrial east of the request is zoned R3 residential single family 3 CD rm18 conditional District residential multif family 18 and cdcm conditional District commercial medium south of the request is zoned Li light industrial and west of the request is zoned hi heavy industrial and Li light industrial this is the arrow map showing that the subject property currently

contains multif family dwellings and undeveloped land uh east of the pardon me uh North the request contains multif family dwellings and heavy equipment rental services e of the request contains multif family dwellings indoor outdoor recreation and undeveloped Land South the request contains a religious assembly use and a multi tenant Industrial Park Department as a former religious assembly use and west of the request contains a religious assembly use in a chemical manufacturing facility these are the conditions that were advertised associated with the request and similar to the previous couple cases it's modifying in particular the second condition to increase the number of uses available uh for the applicant in recommending approval of the request staff noted that the gso 2040 comprehensive plans futurebuilt form map designates the subject property as Urban General and within an urban mixed use Corridor the comprehensive plans future land use M Des of property is commercial uh staff noted that the the propos osed resoning request supports the comprehensive plans filling in our framework big idea to encourage higher density mixed use walkable infield development and that it also supports the compehensive plans growing economic competitiveness big idea to build a prosperous resilient economy that creates Equitable opportunities to succeed um staff noted that the proposed puar designation as condition would allow for a mix of residential and non-residential uses in immediate proximity to to manufacturing other residential uses and large scale commercial activity the request also provides an appropriate transition between the adjacent industrial uses located to the west and various residential uses located further north and east uh this request adjusts the mixture of residential and non-residential uses within the previously rezoned area while

maintaining the general General development pattern that was previously approved I'm have to answer any questions thank you um I I was going to say something but um um Miss hod D would you like to come up and speak no okay I just wanted to say that in the first uh um um condition we've added dwelling there again and the in the second Condition it's this was previously passed in October of 2021 and we've it's now more restricted these limited these uses chairm yes um I just wanted to point out that for this matter and at least the one right before the date for our meeting says January 13th instead of March 18 and I don't know if there others that it would apply to but I was just going to point that out thank you Mr Turner thank you for pointing that out I appreciate that okay so this is the the difference in this particular um presentation um so without further Ado we'll close the public hearing thank you thank you Mr Nelson I will entertain a motion commissioner Keith pet item z- 25- 03- 010 the greensbor planning zoning commission believes that his actions to recommend approval of the rezoning request for the properties at 5201 Easter Lane 600 Guilford College Road and 90 9 930 950 and 955 Bri Parkway from PUD plan unit development to PUD plan unit development and consideration of the associated unified development plan to be consistent with the adopted gso 2040 comprehensive plan and considers action

taken to be reasonable and in the public interest for the following reasons the request is consistent with the comprehensive plans future built form map and future land use map the proposed p UD zoning District as condition permits uses that fit the context of the surrounding area and limits negative impacts on the adjacent properties the request is reasonable due to the size physical condition and other attributes of the area it will benefit the property owner and surrounding community and approval is in the public interest thank you Mr Peterson I need a second thank you Mr Turner for the second um we will take a vote now all all those in favor signify by saying I and raising your arm I I all those opposed that that passes 9 to zero um yes we'll get to that one minute um let's see this constitutes who let me see I lost my place hold on one minute a final action um but first we would like to do the uh UDP we need to do a UDP as well and I will just read that this is a final action for the rezoning unless an appeal is submitted in in writing to the planning department and an appeal fee paid within 10 days anyone May file such appeal all such appeals will be subject to a public hearing at the Tuesday April 15 2025 city council meeting and all adjoining property owners will be notified of of any such appeal and we usually do the resoning first and then the UDP so now we need the UDP uh I'll make a motion for z253

010 to for approval of the unified development plan thank you Mr Turner and I need a second second thank you Mr Nichols all so now we will take a vote all those in favor signify by saying I and raising your hand I all those opposed that passes 9 to zero and is that a recommendation or is that a final it's a final action I thought that was so do I have to read it's a final action into the record okay disapproval constitutes a final action unless appeal is submitted in writing to the planning department and the appeal fee paid within 10 days anyone May file such appeal all such appeals will be subject to a public hearing at the Tuesday April 15 2025 City council meeting and all adjoining property owners will be notified of any such appeal so now we will go back to our regular agenda thank you and the first item on our regular agenda is z253 d003 a resoning request from R5 residential single family 5 to cdrm conditional District um residential multif family 8 for the property identified at 441 reth Church Road generally described as east of Rio Beth Church Road and south of Glendale Drive 14.74% residential single family 5 and R7 res residential single family 7 east and south of the request are Zone R5

west of the request is Zone R5 and CD rm18 conditional District residential multif family 18 the arrow map of the area showing that the subject property is currently undeveloped Land North the request contains single family dwellings as well as drainage way in open space each of the request contains single family dwellings and common element South the request contains a religious assembly use in undeveloped land and West the request contains single and multif family dwellings this image shows the subject property as seen from rova Church Road this image shows the subject property as seen further down on Glendale Drive and this image shows the subject property as seen from Valley Oak Drive this image shows a single family dwelling located north of rquest on Hope with Church Road Zone R5 this image shows a single family dwelling located north of thewest on Loney Circle Zone R5 this image shows a single family dwelling located north of request on Ara Lane Zone R7 and this image shows another single family dwelling located north of quest on AR Lane Zone R7 this image shows open space and drainage way located east of the request Zone R5 this image shows undeveloped land located east of the request on Valley Oak Drive Zone R5 this image shows a religious assembly use located south NorQuest Zone R5 this image shows multif family dwellings located west of the request Zone CD rm18 and this image shows an example of the single family dwellings located west of the request Zone R5 this view is facing south on raob Church Road this other property here is

on the left and this view is facing north on Mobi Church Road the CTIC property is on the right this view is Facing East on Glendale Drive the subject property here is on the right and this view is facing west on Glendale D property here is on the left this view is facing south on Ara Lane you s the property here is directly in front and this view is Facing East on Valley Oak Drive these other property is directly behind you in this View and these are the conditions that were requested by the applicant and advertised associated with the request and in recommending approval of the request staff noted that the gso 2040 comprehensive plan designates the site as Urban General on the future built form map and residential on the future land use map the proposed resonan request supports the comprehensive plans filling an our framework goal to arrange land uses for a more vibrant liable Greensboro as well as the creating great places goal to expand greensbor Citywide network of unique neighborhoods offering residents of all walks of life a variety of quality housing choices staff noted that the proposed CD rm8 zoning District as condition would limit uses to single family detached dwellings zero lot line dwellings duplexes traditional houses town houses and Twin Homes the proposed uses are compatible with the existing uses in the surrounding area and that care should be taken with respect to building orientation building materials Building height and visual buffers to ensure an appropriate transition to the lower density residential uses under properties and Happ to answer any questions thank you Mr Nelson um I just had a question for staff was there anyone we don't have a sheet showing opposition um there should have been one person signed up and opposition on the sheet and then we have at least one

person online as an opposition okay thank you very much okay if the applicant would come forward thank you so much Mr nson um come forward and you have up to 10 minutes please give us your name and address Madam chair and members of the commission my name is Nick Blackwood 804 Green Valley Road here in Greensboro I've got some materials to pass out if that's all right thank you Mr Blackman that weird so I'm here on behalf of the property owner uh San Brothers Holdings uh they'll be the land developer uh for this project um they purchased the property a couple of years ago and and they're um they have an agreement with a home builder is actually going to build upon the developed lot so uh applicant San Brothers they're the the property owner uh they intend to develop Town Homes um on this property be a 99 unit town home community and if you'd flip with me to your first page in your packet just to cover the zoning conditions again uh that um staff just went through and and as you saw in a case a little earlier real quick can we put that up on the screen just because I know we have people online so make sure they can see the information oh that's good thank you okay so the the intent is to develop Town Homes as you saw in the case um a few minutes ago we do want to build in some flexibility for other single family housing types and not limit ourselves just two town homes

but essentially what that first condition does is rule out the possibility of any traditional Vertical Apartments um we've also included a building height condition um the R5 zoning district is currently zoned permits uh single family homes up to 50 fet so we've limited that to 35 ft below what's already permitted on site uh that would accommodate a two-story town home unit and we um there's you'll notice uh a couple slides from now when we look at our illustrative sketch uh there's a fairly extensive uh stream buffer area along our Eastern property line uh so doubtful that we would be performing any stream Crossings anyways but just to give Assurance to neighbors and those existing single family communities to the east uh we went ahead and prohibited any vehicular access to those single family communities great just to give you a little flavor slightly more expanded view of GIS aerial so you see to the north Glendale Drive uh running along the western side there is rovi Church Road 85s to the South um Highway 220 you see on the the left hand side of your page and randomman road you can see running up the east side of the or the right hand side of the page there so our property is um is the one that's highlighted in Red so in staff reference um a couple of the um the existing multif family projects in the area directly west across rovi Church Road um those are those cdrm 18 zoning districts that you see immediately West I also wanted to point out some of the other existing multif family districts in the vicinity so we're not introducing a novel use here by proposing um this rm8 zoning to accommodate Town Home Development uh there's already an existing mix of both single family and multi family districts in the vicinity

so on the the next slide you'll see an illustrative sketch plan uh now this sketch plan has been through preliminary TRC sketch plan review um no major red flags identified as far as impacts on that stream um or our access point on glendell Drive um and I'll get into our community outreach in a bit but I think that you may hear some concerns uh with regard to that stream uh storm water runoff how we're going to control that as well as the proposed location of our access drive on Glendale all of those technical points will obviously be handled during TRC site plan review but just wanted to point out those concerns um so and obviously you know you'll see that that sketch plan um on the eastand side of the property where that stream is there's a fairly extensive existing vegetative buffer so that will remain as part of the stream buffer area that's not going to be disturbed um and and like I said we're going to have the one access point on Glendale Drive uh we've heard from emergency services that in order for for us to exceed 99 units we would need a second access point uh so we know that that we're going to be capped at 99 units here just to give you an idea of the product type um that the home builder is looking at developing here so as I mentioned a two-story product uh they're looking to incorporate garages and and that's been factored into their parking calculations on that sketch plan so that's already been factored in we know that they're going to garages and then a couple of examples uh from our home builder uh there there are two communities that they're they're looking at modeling this this community after uh one is in Clayton one is in Wilson you'll see that there's a mix of of building materials and colors uh we did hear you know a concern with respect to wanting a building materials condition um so

I think it's a little easier to see on this example with this particular product type and what they're trying to do and breaking up the aesthetic and and not just having a cookie cutter kind of you know uniform facade across the entire site they're looking at having different mixes of building materials on each particular unit so on some of the units you'll see they're predominantly brick other units don't have any brick at all but they're wanting to do that to break up the aesthetic so it makes it challenging to incorporate a uniform building materials condition across the entirety of the site and that last page there that's our notice letter that we mailed to neighboring Property Owners on the city's notification list within that 750ft radius uh we held a neighborhood meeting on March 3rd there were 10 or so folks in attendance and as a reference earlier the primary concerns were existing traffic on Glendale the location of that proposed access drive on Glendale and and existing storm water concerns um there are some pipes on the property that were referenced some um they're they're really nonfunctional pipes I'm not sure when they were installed or or who installed them uh but those will not serve as part of our storm water control measures those will be addressed as part of cite plan review and our storm water control system will alleviate that existing flooding problem so those those problems will be done away with in connection with our development um as far as the existing traffic on Glendale we did not you know we weren't required to submit a traffic impact study we don't reach the unit threshold to to meet that requirement from the city and then when you look at what's currently permitted across our site at R5 zoning you could build 73 homes so what we're proposing at 99 units is really not a substantial increase in the total unit count that would generate a tremendous amount of traffic above and beyond what's currently permitted

so with that I'm happy to answer any questions that you might have commissioner PE I got a question being that this property has a a high incline um Mr Peterson I'm sorry can you speak in your microphone can you hear me now yes sir thank you being that this property has a high incline uh in terms of land from Glendale you notice a slope I'm I'm trying to figure out what does that look like for that entrance on Glendale are you guys going to excavate the land so it can come to street level of Glendale or leave it on the incline so that's that's going to be an engineering determination but I do know that there are grade requirements for that access so if it's insufficient for the and perhaps Nolan can speak to that we're probably going to have to do some grading to meet those requirements I can't tell you what the extent of that will be but they do have standards for those those access points and that'll be the only entrance and exits to this property on Glendale not uh rova Church correct yeah we don't have enough Frontage on ROV church for a second access excuse me um and and I anticipate uh what our engineer thinks is that the access point will more or less align with ellane but again that'll be a determination during site plane review and coordination with po g dot and NZ do and obtaining that driveway permit that's any other questions I just have a clarification you mentioned something about the pipes will be replaced or something or the water yes and I have I actually have a couple of pictures so I can show you okay it may be a little difficult to see

here just with the lighting but you can see on this there those are the the mouths of the pipes in the middle of the page on that right hand picture and then you can see the pipes on the Le hand side it looks like they're kind of busted and they're just not functional right now um so again you know that's that's going to be a technical issue to be addressed during site planning but understanding that that was a concern of neighbors wanted to address that and let everyone know that that will be fixed excellent thank you I had a question at your um Outreach reach Community engagement meeting did the um concern about the stream and the flooding and the broken pipes come up in that meeting it did yes and it was discussed and and you explained what you're explaining to us the community uh so we explained that that would be you know addressed as part of our site planning now we did not have these pictures during that meeting our guys actually went out and took these pictures in response to the comments that we heard just so we could get a better understanding of what the concern were but our engineer confirmed that yes these will be replaced with our with our storm water control system that'll be installed in connection with our development and just for clarity Mr Kirkman that would be the next step after our land use decision here the technical Review Committee would then correct right they would have to submit a site plan to the city and as part of that review this would be one of many things that the city would be evaluating making sure that they are addressing any potential impacts any public safety concerns Etc through the technical review thank you and Mi uh Mr duch M um so that would the concern about these um issues uh could you clarify for us whether it's something we should be concerned about at this point or I I I would just Echo what Mr Kirkman said it

is it is addressed subsequent to this process in the technical review process thank you so much thank you for that Clarity sorry to interrupt your presentation just for context M Mr Blackwood um approximately what kind of square footage are each of these dwelling units so there I don't know that that's been determined yet um okay that they're not going to be enormous town home units more or less in line with what you would see with single family product in the area just attached okay and um I noticed in the entire development there's only excess parking for like 14 spaces is has somebody reviewed that and determine that that's sufficient for 90 units of dwelling so the dwelling units so with our garage parking uh paired with our driveway parking I believe that we meet the requirements for parking with the town homes that that comment did not come up in our preliminary TRC review uh so it's my understanding that the parking as shown on our sketch plan meets the city's requirements thank you and I will just add in order to approve the plan we will verify that it's meeting all the requirements thanks I just wanted to know if there was Outreach to the banner Oaks Court people over there if anybody from that area uh came to the meeting or was was there any Outreach there or could you discuss Outreach for us a little bit more yeah so we so we mailed out that that out or the notice letter that you see in your packet now Banner Oaks being the single family community to the east yes yeah now on our call we had 10 or so folks in attendance not all of them spoke um so I'm not sure there may have been some neighbors from Banner Oaks um on the call but they did not bring up any concerns or didn't have any questions with respect to our

development thank you thank you and I suspect it in large part due to the fact that we're not going to have any connectivity to their communities and there's that um healthy buffer between our side and theirs yes okay thank you thank you for pointing that out thank you any other questions do we have anyone else thank you thank you Mr Blackman um anyone else that did we use all the time for that for those in favor is there anyone else that wanted to speak we have a little bit of time on the clock if anyone else is in favor sorry we still have some time on the clock any else is is there anyone else that wanted to speak in favor of this okay um so now we we next anyone wishing to speak an opposition to has up to 10 minutes to speak is there anyone that wanted to speak in opposition is there anyone online because we had two people we had two names here um a Roy Jackson and a robin cheesley yes sh mag yes is online thank you yes this is uh Robin chiley and I live at number two lony Circle and I am and the journey property on I did think it was interesting um that they chose to notify Property Owners with 750 ft when one of the earlier um applicat indicated that they used 900 just so they wanted to involve more Property Owners so I thought that was interesting that they did not follow through with this process my major concern about this project is that it is going to um use um an entrance off of Glendale and what was presented to us at that meeting was that they were going to

use uh make it um even with ultra Lan it would be impossible to make it even with Glendale because then you would be at the creek so they wanted to make it even with ultra Lane Ultra Lane is not a State supported Highway um it is more of a driveway that goes down through that development if they were to make it even with ultra Lane there is a blind spot for anybody coming down Glendale over rovah Church Road uh being unable to see a car coming out that way as well as if they was if there was a car coming out of that development they would be unable to see over uh the um uh Glendale rova Church Road again because of that heel creates that blind spot as it already is traffic comes down I live at the bottom of of the little uh Hill and it's much more of a hill than most people think it is because they don't realize it when it's snowing that they not going to make it up the next Hill um is that water pools uh in that area and there are most often times when um the police will have to come out and close that road for a while after a heavy rain because that water pools and they can't make it through there so using that as a egress um doesn't seem logical to uh to me at all and I live there the other thing is I don't think the area is prepared to receive this as a uh egress because um of the water issue and we made we made them aware of the water issues because they were not aware of it previous uh to that and at the same time there are no sidewalks uh

in this area and so for people who are walking um they generally walk on our side of the street on the my side of the road and they um walk in our yard all day and all night uh particularly during the summer when um school is out and the young people are out and about um there was a much conversation made earlier um as part of your uh hearings about making sure that you have a mixture that supports the community this would not be a mixture that we think supports the community it will uh because they are attached it will look as if it is an apartment complex and we have a number of more than enough apartment complexes in this area it would be nice if we could have some uh separated single family dwellings that would help us as we try to improve our um average economic um income for the area so we could attract some additional um restaurants and uh grocery stores and those things that often times use uh the economic in to determine where they will and will not locate this does not seem like an appropriate use for this property and definitely not an appropriate use for where they would like to locate a driveway I can't see them being able to go up further and located driveway nor come down much further because again they would be at the creek or um the city the state dump that dirt in that area when they were building the 40 bypass and so nobody ever made any recommendations about what they ought to do about it they just dump

the dirt and the water flows down um there all the time so I can't imagine anybody would even even want to live there knowing that there's some issues with how that water flows thank you I'd just like to um um address one issue that you mentioned which was the um radius around the uh the ordinance um is we're required to do 750 ft around the property is that correct Mr Kirkman and 9 900 is not required right and I'm not completely clear I think Miss Chile may be referring to a different applicant and some outrage that they did but yes the minimum requirement is 750 ft from the edge of the property in a circumference around it great and um Miss Chile I I didn't get your address I'm sorry I didn't hear it and I wanted to look at the map I'm sorry I'm at number two lonely Circle so I'm at the corner of lony circle in Glendale okay thank you that that um and and and the reason why I said 900 is that I know for a fact that the two people who are on Ultra Lane are um renters at this point and so the owners uh are probably not receiving or if they do receive this information they are not as concerned about what's happening now because they're no longer living in the area and and we'll let the applicant respond to that part the other thing that I heard you talk about was sidewalks on Glendale and that they would be required to have sidewalks on Glendale so now Mr Kirkman let's can we

is that the end of the opposition is there anyone else that wants to speak in opposition at this point we're not aware of anyone else speaking no one online okay thank you so now we will have five minutes of rebuttal time um but I'd just like to uh address U the applicant will you come up and respond to um thank you and again this is Nick Blackwood 804 Green Valley Road um certainly appreciate Miss Chile's concerns um it's beyond my expertise to design where the access should be located I think it's it's that's a technical decision for the engineers in the city to make in coordination with one another I I do know that it's a state secondary road so not only will G do have their eyes on on the site plan but ncdot will as well multiple layers of review there before we're able to obtain a driveway permit so just Bey beyond my scope I believe beyond the scope of what's to be considered by this commission but that will certainly be addressed during the site plane review um and same goes to the storm water concerns um as to the the mailing radius we we use the same radius that the city uses a 750 ft and we are aware of some interested stakeholder groups in the area that are outside of that radius I think U Cheryl with the southeast uh Coalition is here we did send them the letter as we typically do for any rezoning case in district one so um you know we did attempt our our best to notify people in the area um as far as Property Owners versus renters um you know I think that the property owners are the real Stak holders um you know I'm sure there there may be renters and and single family homes all over the place and if they're um significantly disturbed by our project that's the the beauty of being a renter is you have the flexibility to move so it really impacts the property owners I'd like to hear a little bit more about the neighborhood meeting the community meeting how many people

attended and what was said there sure yeah so so 10 or so um attended the meeting and primary questions were the the points that Miss Chile brought up those technical site planning issues where is our access onto Glendale going to be and how are you going to address the existing storm water issues with the stream and those pipes that are located on on the site um existing traffic on Glendale was brought up uh but again with with our proposed project our 99 Town Homes compared to what's currently permitted uh being 7 single family homes I don't see a real uh distinction and impact between what what could be developed now and what we're what we're requesting with this resending and after the meeting did was there any uh followup with people who were concerned about some of these aspects you know was just give us a better feeling about what happened in the meeting that did they feel comfortable with what you said or or so forth sure so I um followed up with several email exchanges is with the southeast Coalition I did send a separate email to miss Chile after we had an opportunity to Circle up with our team talk to the engineers our folks went out on site and obtained those pictures um asking if we could either meet on the property or at her home uh did not receive response back to that email thank you any other questions from the Commissioners yeah I got a question and I know is not within your purview as you said um where the entrance will be uh technical review but um in this sketch plan um from standing on a property stand on top of the property and if you look to the north of it that's Glendale she from Ro to church and this glendel right there you can't see the bottom of the street if you standing on the

property and my question is to you uh how much influence would you have with the engineer is of possibly and I know it'll help the the residents in that area of um I see this one two three four five six seven there seven units facing um raob church right shifting one unit to Glendale to have room to make an entrance on raob of church because I noticed that south of that is uh I think that's a church or another residence uh south of that on on um yeah south of that is a residence right there yeah yeah that's a residence um maybe shifting one unit to that Glendale side and make an entrance on ra hope of church and I mean that could to me alleviates a lot of the issues in terms of people saying it's flooding and traffic issues with uh coming out on Glendale because I mean that you you can uh turn that into a little playground for for kids during the snow season that heal is so deep commissioner peon obviously I've let Mr Blackwood respond I just want to gently remind the board with it being a purely illustrative plan we we can't get too wetted to that conversation period because anything that he states of course we don't have locked in with a site plan um it's purely a frustrative I just just want to G remind board that and and I will just add that we do we do check side distance at TRC and where their proposed driveways are and as far as the option of putting a reho with Church Road we would be concerned due to

proximity to the traffic signal having a road that close so but okay let's stay on top topic we're here to determine the land use okay let's stay on topic here um any other questions in the rebuttal for um Mr Black no okay anything else you would like to say because you have three minutes you have a few oh they just reset it I think I'll turn the microphone over thank you thank you so much and now we hear the rebuttal in opposition we actually have another speaker for the rebuttal in favor I believe if I'm correct oh speaker in favor okay thank you please state your name and address I'm Sheryl mver 404 West M Council Drive greens spor North Carolina uh good evening um of the southeast Coalition we were a part of the community outreach meeting and we do thank um Nick and his team and axon for always involving us um we've worked with them extensively the meeting was it went over it was very long uh Miss Chile and it was another um resident that's closer to the project I'm about a mile away um they did voice their concerns um Crystal black who you guys all know she's right there on Glendale herself she was the one that um informed them about the black pipes that are you know causing we believe some of the flooding issues that Miss Chi may have been talking about um they sent an engineer out and found the pipes and also you know gave us feedback on that that would be part of their remediation when they build um we are generally supportive and I say generally because we do feel like

it's a it's very dense for there and it is kind of tight um but we do recognize that the town homes will bring a different type of housing than the RS than the single families we got fives we got threes we got our 18s and so we welcome to see a variety of which we have been advocating for in this area um I do not discount Miss ch's concerns I think they are very valid but working with axon's Team I feel like that they will ensure that whatever those concerns are will be mitigated and taken care of appropriately any questions for me thank you I got a question so you you're satisfied with an interaction you had with Mr ISAC and at yeah they are very attentive they listen and not many will go out in our reference a prior project we had to go out and take pictures of the blue line stream of the drains of everything that we were talking about um to bring to the table they sent their Engineers out to take the pictures to look to see what we were speaking of we didn't have to go do that they did that um they do feel like that's probably part of the reason for the flooding of course we don't know all of that right until they get into the details of it um very satisfied I would like to say we did talk about building conditions a little bit and we understand the variety but we'll Circle back on that no aluminum siding okay all right anything else thank you Mr M for bringing that up I was very helpful you're welcome thank you motion Believe Miss Chile wants to speak

in opposition rebuttal all right we'll hear from Miss Chile in opposition now uh number one I think it is H soueast not right is not right it's showing five minutes and we were down to like one this is this is the opposition rebuttal in five minutes is the correct time oh okay I thought that was the rebuttal I'm sorry m m mver spoke in favor as part of the rebuttal oh that was she was in favor I'm sorry Excuse Me Miss jie no problem all respect due to the southeast Coalition but the southeast Coalition is not a an ad Journey property owner and so if they were very concerned if this group was very concerned about what the neighbors might think then they would have involved The Neighbors in this process I did ask Mr Black Blackwood if he would like to meet with me on any of those three days after we had this meeting and he did not contact me I did not receive an email so it would be difficult for him to say I did not respond to the email if I did not receive an email from Mr Blackman um my question my concern is still the original CERN that was expressed this is a um Lind spot you cannot see um at the place that he's talking about it is impossible for the people who are trying to get out onto re Glendale to be able to see it is impossible for the people who are coming over the hill to be able to see they indicated earlier that they did not have enough property to be able to have a ESS on to rehov Church Road and I know while that's a technical issue that will be resolved if they cannot have if they cannot use the egress on Glendale and they don't have enough property to use

one on ropa Church Road then you have a uh a complex with no way to enter or exit the complex and while I went out and look because I was not shown or we were not shown that night uh on the uh the discussion we were not shown a draft of what the apart what the houses could look the town houses would look like and so what I went out to look online at some of the ones that they built previously um they do look like little town they look like little apartments and they are small in and um and uh size and it would be nice if they could be separated so that we would have that mix in this community we have enough public sliding housing that looks the same way and so we will never be able to get our property uh or the income in the community increased as long as we keep getting the same thing over and over this is not an appropriate spot there is not an an adequate amount of thought given into how the people would get in and out of the complex and as a result this would not be beneficial to this community thank you very much um so I heard a few things here and I just want um is there anyone else that wanted to um um speak in opposition there's two minutes and 11 seconds left okay thank you um

okay so we're going to now um without further objection close the public hearing and I'll open it to any discussion that anyone would like to say or any additional comments before we take the motion Madam chair I'm satisfied with um what Miss Chile has said but also the Southeast region and the Southeast region you know what I'm trying to say tired the Coalition and the developer as well um I believe that once the developers get out there or whoever the technical Review Committee that things will be smoothed over but also um I was going through my email I don't do not see any opposition in my email I don't think I maybe I saw one but um I'm I'm not sure if if all the others I'm pretty sure they received notifications but they're not evident tonight and so we're speaking on the conditions of the 2040 comprehensive plan and to me this seems very consistent with us moving forward it is I I've looked at the property as well I know Mr commissioner Peterson has as well but I looked at the area and I see it as a opportunity uh for development but also for growth for the city of Greensboro so I'm going to be supporting it and I'm ready to make a motion if there's any opposition um Mr Gilmore yes I'm not an opposition to it I support you on that uh that property has been up for rezoning before I think years ago was up for apartments and it was problems with it so I'm glad to see the property come back on the market um and I'm glad I will be supporting it thank you okay so um we need a um resoning motion to be made yes Madam chair I like me make a motion for agenda item z253 003 the Greensboro planning and zon commission believes its action that it

action to recommend approval of the resoning request for the property at 4404 raob yes raob Church Road is that right okay okay from rf5 residential single family F to CDR M8 conditional District residential multifam 8 to be consistent with the adopted gso 2040 comprehensive plan and considers the action taken to be reasonable and in the public interest for the following reasons number one the request is consider Cons with the comprehensive pl's future built form map and future land use map number two the proposed CDR M8 zoning District as condition permits uses that fit the context of the surrounding area and limits negative impact on the adjacent properties number three the request is reasonable due to the size physical conditions and other attributes of the area and it will benefit the property owner and surrounding community and approval is in the public interest thank you Mr I need a second commissioner Gil a second thank you Mr Gilmer um so we will now take a vote all those in favor signify by saying I and raising your hand I all opposed so we have eight in favor and one uh against that this constitutes a final action that that has unless an appeal is submitted in writing to the planning department and the appeal fee paid Within in 10 days anyone May file such appeal all such appeals will be subject to a public hearing at the April 15th Tuesday city council meeting and all adjoining property owners will be notified of any such appeals we have one more case I I I think we you need a break okay let's take a just a short

break okay do you do you need a 10 minute break we we're going to we're going to we have to you know we're going to take a 10minute break and come right back thank you recording stopped [Music] there's a new name for hockey and Greensboro say hello to the Gargoyles Andy what do you think about the gargoyle oh man just uh over the moon my inner gargoyle was ready to fly high all day I had a hard time not uh not saying it all day I'm glad we made it to tonight but special night uh huge huge thank you to the community for uh bringing that to that suggestion to us I mean this is greensboro's team and they have named it and I thought they nailed it I love it yeah so how did the name get to the team yeah so um so we had a couple thousand submissions from the community for various team names um and uh this was uh one of the leaders and uh just instantly connected so uh again I thought it crushed it and uh again we're we're excited to to see those uniforms

and uh and name eventually our NHL affiliate and first player signing mascot we got a lot more celebrations to come this is just the first there is a lot to come I I don't know of any other gargoyles in the whole country have you ever heard of a team with a gargoyle no and you know what's funny because like we hadn't either and like once at once it was established that this is what it was going to be we're like we can't believe that there's never been a team named the Gargoyles like so like kudos to Greensboro like again this is uh I think it's going to be a legendary uh name uh for for generations to come and Greensboro did it so it's going to be a lot of fun okay so let's just talk about the season really quickly when does it start how many games games what can we look forward to for sure so we'll start mid October 36 home games 72 whole games and of course the playoffs please so uh again we're committed to winning on and off the ice so provided we win on the ice as expected but playoffs would be uh April May hopefully June that would mean you're in the finals and we know greensbor is home to some record-breaking crowds for not only hockey but lots of other events what are your predictions for this new team yeah I I'm willing to say we're going to be among the leaders if not the leader in attendance in the league and I already told my wife we got to break the record by at least one so if she if we there's no more seats and she needs to sit on my lap or I sit on her lap whatever we got to do we're going to break that record with the Gargoyles all right Ken so what do you think about the Gargoyles uh I think it's a nice team and I think that it was a good pick for the team name yeah I think so too do you like hockey kind of my dad plays hockey and my dad's brother all right Ashley what brought you here tonight um hockey of course I'm excited it's easier to come here than it is Raleigh and hockey's back in Greensboro let's go when did you first start to love hockey probably when it was like the Mighty Ducks like D2 like back in the day like in the 90s and then when the canes first year played in Greensboro and then you know it just kind of My Love For Sports kind of fell into place there as well all right JJ

what is in a name oh man you know you're hoping that when you pick a name right you can you can grab the essence of the city and the type of team that you want to to uh to give to the fans right and so we kind of cheat right we ask we ask Greensboro we ask the fans we ask the community what do you want the team to be and uh we're really excited about it you could hear the buzz kind of growing before the name was even shown on the screen right you could feel the buzz just by the promo video who we are we're really excited about the gargoyle name the fans are too we could be more excited about this all right tell me about your connection to hockey uh so you know as a kid growing up one of my earliest memories was going to Phoenix Road Runner games they were the they were the AHL affiliate of the LA Kings and I didn't know much about hockey we're I'm from Arizona so it's desert and what is ice and that whole thing um but I'm I've always been a huge sports fan played everything done everything and then uh within the last couple years got connected here with zoyer minor league hockey in a number of different markets some baseball we just keep growing I love sports uh my wife loves sports our kids and we've always just kind of said hey anything that we can do to be a part of to bring more sport Works to the Carolinas we want to be a part of it Greensboro is a fantastic location and so when you saw this crowd here tonight what what did that do I I was blown away like I was sitting up there and I was like I'm legitimately nervous right now we've done a couple of these since I've kind of joined and they've been smaller events um maybe you're talking but maybe it's just to media and all of a sudden you look out here and I don't know what the official number is but the salesman in me wants to say there's thousands of people here right and there really is and that really really cool it makes you more excited puts a little pressure on us like we want to deliver not only great hockey but uh we want to be a part of this community we want to give back to the community um just even my time with the Panthers Panthers in Charlotte so much of pro sports is being connected with the community and so a great

opportunity for us to do that and hopefully give this this city a a a winning hockey team and and someone they can be very proud of and a winning experience for families for sure absolutely my wife and I we take our kids all the time in Charlotte we're going to be coming up here to a bunch of games it's fun hockey is probably the best sport to watch live like I'm not supposed to say that cuz I play football but like it's fun it's fast-paced it's great for families we're thrilled rep the Gargoyles and get your season tickets now at gargoyles hockey.com [Music] 53-11 a resoning request for cl commercial low and CDO commercial conditional district office for the property identified as 202 Denny Road generally described is south of Denny Road and East of North Church Street 78 Acres Mr uh Carter thank you chair maggot this is the zoning map of the subject property um subject property contains approximately 0.78 acres and is

located south of Denny Road and East of North Church Street this is a reasoning request from uh commercial low designated as cl to uh conditional district office designated as CDO north and south of the request are zoned r five east of the request is Zone CL and R5 and west of the request uh is zoned commercial load this is the aerial map of the subject property uh which is currently undeveloped north and east of the request contain single family dwellings south of the request contains undeveloped land and west of the request contains single family dwellings a beauty salon and an eating and drinking establishment without a drive-through facility this image shows uh the subject property as seen from Denny Road this image shows a single family dwelling located northwest of the request on North Church Street zoned R5 in this image shows single family dwellings located north of the request on Denny Road zoned R5 uh this image shows undeveloped land located Northeast of the request zoned R5 and this is a single family dwelling located east of the request zoned R5 and cl so the residential zoning here is U or the residential zoning covers the the single family dwelling and the CL portion is uh closer to the trees that you see on the right hand side of the property this image shows undeveloped land located south of the request on North Church Street Zone R5 this image shows single family dwellings and the beauty salon U that is located west of the request Zone c

l and this image shows the in eating and drinking establishment located east of the request Zone CL this view is Facing East on Denny Road the subject property is on the right Miss view is facing west on Denny Road the subject property is on the left this is the condition that has that was proposed by the applicant and in recommending approval of this request staff notes that the gso 240 comprehensive plan designates this property as Urban General on the future built form map and residential on the future land use map the proposed resoning request supports the comprehensive plans filling in our framework goal to arrange land uses for more vibrant and livable Greensboro and or to prioritize sustainability goal uh to build economic resilience expanding the local economy's ability to withstand and adjust to disruptions and changes at the regional National and Global scales the proposed CDO zoning District as conditioned would allow various residential office and personal and professional Services the proposed uses are compatible with the uses present on adjacent tracks and Care should be taken with respect to building orientation building materials Building height and visual bu offers to ensure an appropriate transition to the lower density residential uses on adjacent tracks with that I can answer any questions that you have thank you Mr Carter I just have a question is there still anyone here that wants to speak in opposition okay I'm just checking thank you all right um would the applicant please come forward and you have up to 10 minutes please give us your name and address

Jan Waller with JC Wall Associates uh 4125 Walker Avenue Greensboro I'm here on behalf of Mr call Davis the property owner who's here as well um I'm here to answer any technical questions questions but I do want to um inform you of our um Outreach process which is in that packet that we just handed out um we sent out 96 notices to the uh jent Property Owners um we had a neighborhood meeting on March March 4th um and at that particular meeting we had six attendees with three of them being res from the neighborhood um they did not really voice any concerns with the development proposal which is to um reone the property so that the developer can do small scale multif family residential whether it's a condominium town home or a small apartment building type product um that has not been determined at this time they're still doing their uh Market studies have any questions I have one question is that someone online yes chair M okay we we have to wait for you I'm sorry you can ask your question in a moment okay thank you very much EX exactly um let's see does any of the Commissioners have a

question I just had one question so the difference between um the um L and O is the um the um single family detached dwelling and this is for Mr Kirkman and the duplexes and and so that's the reason for the change from L to O because of your intention is that correct so I guess there's two different questions here I generally agree distinctions between commercial low and office are going to be um residential options and office that do not exist in commercial low um there's also going to be you can do like retail for instance in commercial loow that you would not be able to do in the office District but you can also do offices themselves are allowed in both districts personal Professional Services are allowed in both districts um the size and scale of things are just the same between the two districts on there but yes the residential component is certainly something that can be allowed in office that would not be allowed in commercial low and then I'll let Mr Waller speak more to that in terms of their plans that is correct so um a residential or a multif family product would not be allowed in the current zoning designation so we're going to a less what we believe is a less intensive designation to again to allow for the residential type use that fits more with the character of the neighborhood um the developer is looking to do um do similar materials on the on the property so that it Blends in within the context and character of the of the surrounding development in neighborhood any other questions okay thank thank you so much um is there anyone else that wants to speak in favor to this application okay then we will um hear from those

that are opposed to the application please come forward and you have 10 minutes to speak and um we have a Roy Jackson online is he in favor or in opposition yeah he's right now he's an opposition okay terrific thank you yes my name is David Hudson I live at 205 Denny Road thank you for hearing me council members um yeah we were told this was going to be office not you know residential so you know we have a concern with that that's that they should put a I think put a car counter on that road that's it's a the the picture didn't show how steep those Hills are when you come off these it's like a racetrack over there these people come around the corner and sometime they'll pass me trying to pull in my driveway and I have to wait till they go by I mean it's pretty bad my neighbor knows what I'm talking about and so it'd be a it'd be a really dangerous place for people coming out of there to get out I mean it's there's no sidewalks it's a very narrow road as it is so I mean you know you've probably seen the road but you can't see the hill when you come off street it's blind right there and I mean everybody don't drive the speed limit so my concern is there'll be cars crashing in front of our houses or you know or you know maybe we'll get piled up pulling out you know when we come out so I mean I'm opposed to that because of that and there's a creek on that East Side that you you know that um you couldn't see so the bottom of that property there's a creek it runs all the way through there comes by my house and

it goes all the way out it's a some of that I think up there is a flood zone area so I'm told you can't build but so close to the creek anyway so I don't know what they're going to do about that so we have some concerns and she that's pretty much what what is your address I'm sorry I didn't 205 Denny Road like straight across from the property I can see the whole property and there's a creek that runs right straight by my driveway and um so it'll run down the edge of that so I don't know what's going to happen there and my neighbor she's right beside she's right here so I don't know what else I can say other than it's a bad it's dangerous there thank you very much yes ma'am um we'll hear from online Mr Jackson next yes my name my name is Roy Jackson I live at 826 Valley Oak Drive Mr Jackson can you show us your face can you start your video your camera thank you so much okay yes um again my name is Roy Jackson I live at 826 Valley Oak Drive um and so the the construction site in question uh it's right would be right beside my house run along the creek in which the gentleman was just speaking of uh and I'm in opposition because one the infrastructure area here uh is already congested uh one the other part is that we're bringing in more more housing and I understand the need in some aspect for the city of Greensboro for housing uh but this areas which just already been congested with with with housing uh and

the infrastructures barely can hold what we already have in place right now um and the narrow rows in which we have here is barely able to hold the capacity of of the individuals that live in this area now and just as the gentan said before uh the heel in which which is located by this property is it's actually is a dangerous area we've already had one fatality uh on record in this particular area because of people coming over that Hill uh in accelerated speed feed and so much traffic up at up at the top there at reob of Church Road and so I just think that um this is a very congested area already uh and to bring more housing in it's only going to make matters even worse and we have a school that's down in the area that is already at a at capacity um and then to to put more pressure on on that school to take in more kids uh in that area if if School area kids move there um and so I think that's that's going to put a tremendous amount of pressure on the area uh and the one thing that I'm not clear about on this property that I've not seen is the the income level of which they may be asking for this Housing Development I've not seen anything in writing as it relates to that that's my time thank you thank thank you um we have 5 minutes and 57 seconds left in the rebuttal um would you like to say anything I mean of the opposition sorry please come to the podium chair maggot if if I may just before yall proceed further I think the last speaker indicated that he lived on was it Valley

Oak Valley Hill Drive Val Oak Drive noticed while he was speaking he met may have intended to speak in opposition on an item that we already heard uh because that's pretty close to the rith um matter that was just heard a little while ago yes I just wanted to clarify in case there's any confusion for the commission um and and thank you for that because I couldn't find it on the map yeah so unfortunately that item of course has has already been voted on okay all right thank you very much will you state your name and address yes my name is Joan Oliver I live at 20 three Denny roll directly across the street and they stated orchest I'm about we don't have no sidewalks streets are narrow accident traffic light coming in you make that ter right hand ter when you come in the street you're not really see nothing over there until you come right up on it so my concern is whatever they put there I don't think both the family should be it's not a good idea at all CU too much traffic children no sidewalks where they going to walk they come they come walking down my block on Denny Road they walk on my grass this the whes from under walk not only that where is exent and entering excident going to be at on this property is it going to be a direct in front of my driveway is it going to be direct over here or it's going to be over there by the restaurant which not going to see which is they probably people park there the come you know go to the restaurant so that is my concern traffic

bad going up that hill down that Hill toble school buses just like it took me 4 minutes just to get my driveway and I shouldn't have to wait that long just to get my driveway so you can see how conjested the area is getting they build mug houses around the area which is nice but just on Denny Road like that no I don't think it's a good idea that's all say thank you let's see um any other people that want to speak in opposition okay so we'll start the rebuttal um first from the applicant and I'd just like to mention two things like there there will be sidewalks in any of these new developments that we're doing there'll be sidewalks added um what was the other okay schools and traffic just remember that's not under our purview I just wanted to point that out thank you state your name and address again Johan wall JC Wallen Associates 4125 Walker Avenue um I like to thank the two um neighbors for their concerns this is the first time that we're hearing those um concerns but I want to bring up um to this body that we're looking at four to six units which should not exasperate the ongoing Transportation issue um that may be occurring in the area we did do a sketch plan submission uh at a high level concept uh to make sure there was no development challenges for developing four to six units on the property there

is a stream on the property which again limits the amount of development um again we believe this um development proposal provides a different housing stock in the particular neighborhood that Greensboro uh desperately needs and I can take any any other questions thank you very much and um we have a little bit more time if anyone wants to speak in the rebuttal in favor of the property okay um now we'll hear rebuttal in opposition to the property anyone want to speak in okay thank you um any discussion from the commissioners before I close the public hearing was his hand up Mr um Mr Jackson no my hand was not up okay thank you very much did you did you did you realize the property that you were um coming to speak about was it Denny Rad or was it the one before I did not realized they did had already been uh passed on so it was a passed one okay thank you I just wanted to clarify that for the record thank you okay so we're GNA without further objection we'll close the public hearing and we can open this up for any discussion before we make a motion anyone want to speak okay let's make a motion then I'll entertain a

motion well I did want to say one thing I understand the neighbor's concern and I also understand what the developer is thinking about um in this regard looking at the fact there are two things I I see there's no traffic impact study that is needed but also know that particular area and I will argue that if this does get approved it may drive more opportunity for the roads to be improved and for the traffic aspects to be a lot better I know the area can be more um refined in areas but we also respect the neighbors and and their positionality on those aspects so so thank you for being here today but I believe that by if we were to approve this this will make the livelihood in the neighborhood a lot more livable and walkable as well and safer so I think this would be a step in the right direction in my opinion from looking at our comprehensive plan any other person want to speak okay now I I will entertain a motion please mam chair sandre o Conor I'll make a motion thank you Mr O Conor uh the Greensboro Planning and Zoning commission believes that its action to recommend approval of the resoning request for the property at 202 Denny Road from CL commercial low to CDO conditional district office to be consistent with the adopted gso 2040 comprehensive plan and considers the action taken to be reasonable and in the public interest for the following reasons the request is consistent with the comprehensive plans future built form map and future land use map the proposed CDO zoning District as conditioned permits uses that fit the context of the surrounding area and limits negative impacts on adjacent properties the request is reasonable due

to the size physical conditions and other attributes of the area it will benefit the property owner and surrounding community and approval is in the public interest commissioner Gil a seconds thank you Mr Conor and and Mr Gilmer um so now we will take a vote is there any comments any comments okay so all those in favor signify by raising your arm and saying I I all those opposed that constitutes nine z and this is a final action unless an appeal is submitted in writing to the planning department and the appeal fee paid within 10 days anyone May file such appeal all such appeals will be subject to a public hearing on Tuesday April 15 2025 city council meeting and all adjoining property owners will be notified of any such appeals thank you so much thank you Mr uh Carter all right so we're going to close the meeting do we do we know how many cases we have for next month uh right now we have eight items on the agenda total okay one of them still subject to figure out all right so we have food so we'll go to the room and we can have a little bite okay thank you so much thank you for a really good job

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