City Council - Regular Meeting

Wednesday, May 20, 2026
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Government Body
City Council
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City Council
Location
Greeneville, TN
Meeting Date
May 20, 2026

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0:28 – 0:4110

2026 town of Greenville city council regular session. 1st thing I'd like to ask Danny Ricker to come up and lead us an indication and then Tim Ward will lead us in the pleasurable agents.

0:46 – 1:189

let us pray father we come to you today god and we just uh want to take time and thank you for the answer prayers that you've answered god we thank you for taking care of everyone at the iris festival this weekend as we prayed with just minor injuries uh lord father we thank you for that and god we just ask you today that you bless the City Council, God, as they have the weight on their shoulders to lead this county, or this city, and we just ask you to give them the wisdom and knowledge that they need, Lord Father, and we know you have it all, Lord. In Jesus' name, amen. If you'll face the flag.

1:19 – 1:327

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

1:32 – 3:3610

Hey, Danny, can you stay up here just a second? I'm going to get you. Over the past two weeks, I guess, you've led a couple of different discussions, meetings with fallen officers. Yeah. And then we had a day of prayer on Sunday. were both very well done and i just want to say thank you for leading us in those those types of opportunities um they're very important also we are so fortunate as a town to have you leading us in these activities and not only just the town but all of the county areas also we're blessed so thank you it's my honor to serve really what the lord's doing is testing your all's patience by putting up with i don't think so thank you so much i would also like uh the person that is behind the scenes all the time on the radio to stand up for just a second oh you are he is standing okay Good job. Anyway, it was announced today that Bobby has been selected to be a member of the Tennessee Radio Hall of Fame, and he will be selected or put in in July, sometime in July. There will be some information out. But let's all give this young man a hand. Thank you. Look at his face turning red. How great that is. Well, he's always on the radio.

3:379

I've seen him read reports at 2 o'clock in the morning, though, with some stuff that would make me blush, and he never blushed.

3:45 – 5:1910

Thank you. Also, we had the Derby Day on Main thing back in the beginning of May. There was a great turnout. It was a very good evening. I think yesterday in the county commission meeting, they said they raised $80,000 to help kids with food during the summertime. So that is an incredible event. And if you see Patricia Bohan at the General Morgan was the chairman of that day. If you see her, thank her. And I'm sure she would be very much appreciated. We also had a little thing going on this past weekend. Jan and Main Street Greenville got the plants done a week or two ago. And I know if you haven't been down on Main Street, you need to get out and walk around. The pocket park looks great. And we've gotten quite a few different type or a little bit larger plants planters for the plants so thank you for that and then there was something called the iris festival this past weekend jeff can you come up and talk a little bit about what happened i had the best job i got to drive a cart from 12 30 to 5 30 talking to all the people that were going to their cars and picking them up and bringing them in and it was good

5:21 – 9:205

I don't know. Something happened. It exploded and it kind of all worked and nobody got hurt. No, seriously. First of all, thank you all, the town, for your support. You know, the tourism dollars, that's what we use this for. We don't have numbers yet. Um, Saturday, you know, I directed traffic up there at college and, uh, church and I have never seen that many people. Uh, normally we run two shuttles, golf carts. We ran four and they were consistent. They were nonstop. Um, car show, the numbers were not the same because they did something different this year. Uh, they had right around 500 cars. Uh, they blocked off, um, I guess the south side of Maine, or going to West Maine to do a soapbox derby, which we're very excited about, a new add to the chaos. That's probably gonna build out. And we had folks from Kentucky, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Ohio, South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia, We had a couple that was shuttled in. They came specifically for the Irish Festival, spent the night, went to AJ, excuse me, Andrew Johnson. He didn't go to the bank. But they spent the night. We had several, you know, a lot of folks coming in to spend the hotel. I'll be curious to see the numbers because visually, I think we broke last year's record. I'll be surprised if we didn't. If you had a business open, you sold out. But more importantly, thank you for the support, the support of our uh mr noah at public works he emptied a lot of trash i know that we went through um over 496 gallon trash bags of trash um do the math on that unfortunately they're plastic that's the only way we can do it so it's not real good for our environment and kind of goes against our keep green beautiful initiative but public works um I don't know how many barriers are out there. I think we rounded them all up, but they were on every corner. We tried to consolidate. Of course, the police department, the fire department, Danny and his team were hugely instrumental cuz it did get a little warm, warmer than we thought. But EMS, EMA, the Rescue Squad, the Sheriff's Department, Mayor Doty, thank you for shuttling. Mayor Morrison has found a new career. If this mayor thing doesn't work out, he's an official trash guy. Jeff Fidel, same thing for him. If this building thing doesn't work out, he's a good trash guy too. And then, of course, the many, many volunteers that help put this on and keep us safe. You know, when we talk, this is graduation season, as we talk about it, and the principals and directors of schools say this and prom are the most stressful weeks for them because we don't want our students to do something stupid and go from good to bad. That's kind of how this is for us. We do a lot of planning. We try our very, very best to have a great event, but more importantly, it's about public safety. And we came through with only a couple of heat exhaustions. We were very close with a very pregnant woman. She fortunately held out, and that would be scary. But again, because of the community support. So thank y'all, thank y'all again. When we get numbers, we'll share them. But I know a lot of people spend a lot of money and that's what this is all about. So mark your calendars. Third week in May for the 32nd consecutive year minus COVID. May 15th will be the start. And again, we'll do a full week like we have again. We're finding that. having the diversity of dueling pianos, pop-up art shows, pick-up and pint, so all those great things add to it because not everybody wants arts and crafts or a car. So thank you all again. Thank you to all the support mechanisms, and we'll see you in 364 days. So here we go. Thank you all again.

9:2110

One more thing, Jeff.

9:2212

Yes, sir.

9:2310

Wings and Things.

9:25 – 11:045

Yes, Wings and Things. Over 2,000 for that. Partnered with the airport. Angela and her team are great to assist. We pivoted. We outgrew the car show, so we pivoted to things, and we had all kinds of machines, things and machines. We had a surprise. Blackhawk dropped in on us. We didn't know coming, but that's always a pleasant surprise when they show up on a good sunny day. But we had over 2,000 for that, and it's kid-friendly. Lots of smiles. Great support, again, for so many of our community partners, whether it's all the support mechanisms from the city and the county, but also Casper's to Malone's to A1, you pick them, John Deere, et cetera, et cetera. So it was a lot of CTE, kind of weirdly. Yeah. but again free event to the community and again it's to talk about and promote the economic impact of our airport and that's why it was started because a lot of people don't know we have an airport and so we had a lot of folks take airplane rides for the first time in their careers and we were very gracious very blessed to have the navy come back and of course the 101st airborne out of fort campbell so again thank y'all and it's a great partnership that we continue to pivot and make it better and work through the logistics of that all so thank you for asking about that anything else that'll do it got a break till july 4th so get ready for that kevin i'm going to throw you kind of throw you out do you could you talk a little bit about what we gave to tommy bennett today or josh or somebody

11:12 – 11:442

So the chief of police recognized Tommy Bennett for his, as a community partner with the police department. For years, Tommy has helped us out with our vehicles anytime we need wind a tent, anything like that. He's been trying, Steve's tried to push recognizing all the vendors that we use that help us do our job and help the people. And Tommy's one of those. He's been with us for years. And anytime we've needed anything from him, and he's usually same-day service, get a car in. And I took one this morning and picked it back up before lunchtime.

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Well, and Jeff talked about the Soapbox Derby. I guess Tommy was kind of the leader of that this past weekend. So good man.

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Thank you.

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Thank you. I think we have one person that would like to speak. Nancy, if you want to come up.

12:08 – 14:310

Good evening. Mayor Doty has granted me permission to address one of three topics while rejecting the other two, which I believe violates Tennessee state law regarding the public comments section for public meetings. This evening I will focus on the critical issue of utilizing government issued email addresses versus personal email accounts for conducting official government business. Each government employee is assigned a government email specifically for this purpose, ensuring that any request made under the Freedom of Information Act can be fulfilled by searching these official accounts rather than personal emails. The concern arises when employees ought to use their personal email or other business email addresses for official matters, thereby avoiding the government server. This raises a significant issue regarding how citizens can effectively reach their elected officials. In addition, this raises the question of whether personal emails of government employees are maintained on file by their government employer. To illustrate this point, I conducted a simple test by sending an email to each of your government-issued addresses, and none of the City Council members responded, indicating that these accounts are not being monitored. Mayor Doty responded by email using the business email address associated with his medical practice, One Team Wellness, where he is listed as either the president or registered agent until April the 9th of 2026. This date is particularly significant because just two days prior, on April the 7th, during a city council meeting, One Team Wellness was awarded the contract bid for conducting physical examinations for the fire department. This timing raises concerns about a potential conflict of interest as the mayor's involvement in the medical practice could influence the decision making process regarding city contracts.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I'm going to respond to her comment. I started a business in 2016 called One Team Clinic, and at that time I started an email address. I kept that business open for about five years, and then I started working with One Team Wellness. A year ago, I sold that to the current owners, Dr. Robert Locklear and Tom Wood. I don't deal with that. If I'm the registered agent on that, that was their responsibility to get that off. I appreciate your concern. If you would like to go talk to Mr. Woods or Dr. Locklear, I'm sure they would be happy to talk to you about it. And I agree, we should use our our town emails, and I apologize for not doing it. So I would ask everyone to start doing that from this time of year forward. So thank you. All right. Unfinished business. Consideration to approve minutes from the regularly scheduled meeting held on April 21, 2026. Kathy sent those out, and... You had a chance to review, and I hear a motion to approve. Is there a second?

16:087

Second, but I wasn't here.

16:1010

You weren't here?

16:117

Mm-mm, so I don't.

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Can I have, oh, he wasn't either. I'll second. Tim's second. Got a motion and a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Those against, like sign. The motion carries. Item 6.2 is consideration to amend minutes from the regularly scheduled meeting held on April 7, 2026. The revision is the highlighted sentences on page 2 and 3, if you want to put that up. Appreciate Mr. Teague asking me about that. So, do I hear a motion to approve that? So moved. Is there a second?

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Second.

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Is there any further discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Motion carries. Item 6.3 is public hearing and consideration of an ordinance on second and final reading to amend Title V, Chapter 6, adding an exemption for conforming commercial feather flags.

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Just to add one point, I know this is a public hearing, but I just wanted to add, since the first reading, Council Member Teague asked for some language to be added. And the language that was added is highlighted up there. The feather sign originally said the feather sign shall not be located on the sidewalk. It was asked to include the language nor within any pedestrian or vehicular right of way. So that is the only change since the first reading.

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Okay. Thank you, Tim. Does anybody like to speak to this? This is a public hearing. Seeing no one, do I hear a motion to approve?

17:517

Do we have to approve the amendment first?

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No. No, if it's added in on second reading, you can approve it on second reading. Okay.

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Thank you. All right. Do I hear a motion? We got a motion. Second. Second. Second, is there any further discussion? All those in favor, say aye.

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Opposed against, like sign. Motion carries. On the recommendation of our council member Teague, we have added consent to items, and we have two today. So this is our first time. I will try to say I guess we can approve them both at one time.

18:383

Yes, so you just approved the consent agenda. Call for a motion and a second on the consent agenda items, unless someone has a question or wants to vote separately.

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Thank you. You're welcome. I hear a motion to approve the consent agenda items. So moved. Is there a second?

18:540

Second.

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Is there any further discussion? All those in favor, say aye.

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All those against, like sign. Motion carries. Thank you. Thanks, Laura.

19:053

You're welcome.

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New business, item 8.1 is Mr. Scott Keith has been named Town of Greenville Public Works Director. I would like Scott to come on up.

19:20 – 19:3715

So Scott has been serving as our interim public works director since early April, and then he was recently selected and named public works director at early May, so... We want to welcome him as our official public works director. We're happy to have him.

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Scott's got some great activities planned, and he will help move us forward. So thank you, Scott. Item 8.2 is review of our April 2026 monthly financial report. Ms. Young.

20:08 – 21:003

Okay. As you'll note on page one of your financial report, it says revenues exceeding expenditures in the red. That's the opposite of expenditures exceeding our revenues, which is not uncommon for two reasons. We have a debt payment in April, as you can see, the $2 million debt payment. And we had a surge of revenue in the March financial statements because of property tax. So it just kind of levels off a little bit at the moment. You can see where we are on capital projects as well for the year on the list below. Any questions on any of that? Okay. Okay. So, Christina, if you'll go on down to the graphs. Does anybody have any questions on any particular line items, revenues, expenditures, anything in particular? Okay.

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Real quick, you and I talked about if you look at the time of the month or the time of the year, we're about 83%. And some of our taxes are at 70, 71. And you explained to me.

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I can. So we have all of our state revenues and local option sales tax all come in a month behind. So we will have a large influx that will be added. We accrue those at the end of the year for our audit and put them in the right appropriate fiscal year. So those will come in July. That'll catch that up.

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Okay, thank you.

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You're welcome. So the graph on the local option sales tax, we've talked about during some of our budget sessions about that kind of leveling off. And you can see the graph for local option sales tax as well as state sales tax. And then the next three slides are our wholesale beer, the wholesale liquor, and the mixed drink tax. And you can see they're pretty much consistent this time of year as far as revenues coming in. Okay, Christina, can you go to the next one, please? Okay, so I did something a little different this time of year since we've been talking about Sales tax, so local option sales tax. And the next slide is our state sales tax. I did a, actually let Excel do it. And then double checked it. But I actually, you can actually go through Excel and do a, ask it to forecast based on history. So I have gone back to 2023 and then projected forward about five or six years. And when you look at this, I just wanted to make note, the difference between 2023 and the growth in 2024 was 4.9%. Okay, now that's really close to that post COVID, everybody still had money at that point. When you go 24, 25, FY 25, our sales taxes dipped a little bit, local option and state sales. But those go down around 2.3, 2.25 and 2.3% for 25 and 26. So we dropped from 23 to 20, we dropped a whole 2% on our property tax collections. So I think that's important for you as we've talked during budget about things slowing down. I think it's important for you to look at that. So on the projections as it builds out based on that average, All those years, all the growth in those years averaged somewhere close to 3% growth, which is about what we have built in the budget for next year. And then the same approach to the state sales tax as well. 23 to 24, that growth is 3.3%. and then we go 24 to 25, and it drops down to 25, or 2.5%, I'm sorry. So that average growth is about 2.1%, which is about where we are in the FY27 budget. So I built the budget before I did this. I let Excel do the projections for me, because I really wanted you to know where we were and why, and to prove that it's leveling off, as well as to check and make sure that my projections were in line with where I think we're gonna be. Hopefully it will turn around. I will say I had this conversation with someone earlier today, and I've answered a couple of questions in the last week or so. In case you don't know, December 2026, for almost every... COVID allocation, whether it was ARPA money or anything like that, most all of them have to be spent by December 2026. So a lot of those projects have already been funded and closed out, like our fire station, we've already closed that out. Very little are rolling over into FY27. And so now we're back to everybody's having to fund things with the cash and the revenues that they have. So that's why budgets are squeezed. I've heard it from Johnson City and Elizabethton all the way to Knoxville. Budgets are being squeezed a little bit. And that seems to be the big driver for a lot of that.

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I really appreciate you forecasting like that. That will help us over the coming years.

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Well, I'm going to also look at budget and try to give you a little bit of a forecast for the next, at least what to expect next year and maybe even the following year. Just especially our operating budget. Capital I don't worry so much about, but especially the operating side with the cost of living being what it is at the moment.

26:06 – 26:2110

One of the things we have talked about is the fact that some of the growth that we've had in property, new properties, it takes almost two years to start seeing some of those property taxes.

26:233

It does.

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So we'll watch those closely too, huh?

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Yes. And the valuation, and I'll talk about that at the next meeting when we talk about property tax revenues, but our penny property tax is $65,000 at the moment. So when you get a valuation of $5 million worth of property, It's not as much as you think it would be on the property tax collection. So I think that's important to kind of explain. You know, most people, I live in that world and most people don't. And they don't really understand how their taxes are calculated. So I'd like to take a minute maybe when we talk about the budget to kind of show how that math works.

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And I hope that the property that's being worked on, Snipes Ferry, will bring in a good opportunity for our community. So I appreciate the county trying to put that together.

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Yes. Any questions about anything on our finances so far?

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Okay. This is more of a budget discussion, but one penny, you say $65,000? $65,000. So state mandated already for just a school system, we're at five pennies.

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Yeah, it's a real... Below what we were last year. Mm-hmm.

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That we have no choice. Right. But we'll discuss that, I guess, next week.

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Yeah, we'll talk about it next time.

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Present that. Thank you. Yes, you're welcome.

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Thanks.

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Any other questions, comments? Okay, thank you. Thanks a lot. Thanks a lot.

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Item 8.3 is consideration of approval... On first reading of an ordinance rezoning 12012 Tuscaloosa Boulevard from R1 low density residential to B4 arterial business. Mr. Schooley.

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Mayor, council members. Yes, this is a proposed zoning ordinance draft for the rezoning of a property on 1202 Tuscaloosa Boulevard. As you see on the screen highlighted in cyan or light blue, it is one property that is zoned R1, low density residential and the proposed zoning district to be applied on this property is the before arterial business district. This was brought before the Planning Commission on their May 12th regular meeting, which they recommended approval to the City Council. And the The purpose of this rezoning is that, as you can see, there's two buildings on the lot that serve as offices, and that does not comply with the R1 single-family district. So this is a case where it is a legal, non-conforming use, and this rezoning will bring it into conformity. And rezoning this property to the B4 arterial district would match in line with the adjoining properties. As you can see in the purple-blue color, that is B4, the zoning districts that adjoin it. and it is adjoined by an arterial street in tuscaloosa boulevard so planning staff did not see any conflict with this rezoning it also recommended the rezoning be approved so this is just first reading so there's no vote needed there's been a public notice published in the paper 21 days prior to the second public hearing, which will be on June 2nd, the city council meeting, should this pass through this first reading.

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Okay, so I'm going to go ahead.

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Just assuming that your picture that you presented is north, so the northeastern piece of property rubric, We rezoned it a while back, didn't we?

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Which one, Tim?

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I'm sorry. You'll see it. It's the northeast side of the property in question. So, yes, if you're... The circular driveway, does that help you...

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Yeah, to the east.

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It's been long since we rezoned it, right?

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Yeah, I talked with the billing official, and he told me the back story that there was a rezoning in the past, probably several, five years ago. I remember that. And all the properties were zoned R1. And I think for whatever reason, this property was left out.

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It makes sense for it to be business. I'll make a motion we approve. Thank you. That's your recommendation? Yes. Oh, we don't need a motion. This is just a public hearing.

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Just first, yeah, first reading.

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We do need a motion on first reading. Okay, I'll make that motion. Okay. I'll second. Okay.

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Okay, is there any further discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Those against, like sign. Motion carries. Item 8.4 is consideration of to approve on first reading a text amendment to the Greenville Zoning Ordinance to define and authorize neighborhood gathering venue in the B1 district, places of amusement and assembly in the B2 district, and bed and breakfast uses in applicable residential districts.

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Yes, so this is a three part zoning text amendment ordinance draft and I'll start with the background of why this is being proposed. Back a couple months ago we had property owners off of Doty Chapel Doughty Avenue behind Little Top.

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Doughty.

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Doughty. My bad, my accent. It's not mine. It's not this Doughty. Doughty. Okay. so they have the historic dowdy house there and they were proposing to development staff to use it as a bed and breakfast small event venue center for weddings movies on the lawn for the local community and as as staff we looked at the zoning ordinance to see if the use would fit with the b1 neighborhood business district which is where the property resides and we didn't see any path forward or any defined use that could allow small event venue. And the other part, or the other few parts of this text amendment was that they wanted to also use this building as a bed and breakfast for like a wedding event. And so that's where this spurred the whole review of our uses and any inconsistency in the zoning ordinance. So I just wanna preface that no existing uses are gonna be removed or made non-conforming. There's gonna be no new property rights that are gonna be diminished. And this is purely additive to the zoning ordinance. So nothing is being removed. And I will start with part one. which part one is bed and breakfast homes and ends. So bed and breakfast homes and ends, the definitions exist already in the zoning ordinance, but there's no explicit use of a bed and breakfast home or in that is shown in our residential zoning districts. So reviewing the bed-and-breakfast home and end I looked at the definition so for bed-and-breakfast homes that is a a residential use or a home that the homeowner has to reside in, and it caters to a maximum of seven guests, and that would be permitted upon review by the BZA in the R1 low-density residential district, an R1A district. So that would have to be reviewed by the BZA for a use in that zone. Then in the R2, R3, and R4, that would be a use by right. And if there's anything that a site plan, the parking, that still has to be addressed. There's parking requirements in our zoning ordinance that's already in place for bed and breakfast. So all off-street parking will have to meet the already established parking regulations. Then there is the bed and breakfast inns, which is where there does not have to be a homeowner in the house. So that Bed and Breakfast Inn is put into the R4 high density residential zoning district. And that is because the R4 zoning district also caters to small commercial uses. So that would best align with that category. And that, again, too, would have to meet any site plan requirements for new development or parking requirements to be met. And that is it for the bed and breakfast homes and inns. And the Planning Commission approved that part. and did not have any concerns. And this has also been reviewed by our town attorney. I worked with him, so he's given the approval on this draft ordinance. Is there any question? Yes, go ahead.

37:26 – 37:4111

Before you go on, I know you. In R1, this will prove, prevent or will let a bed and breakfast happen in a residential neighborhood.

37:4213

This will allow for a bed and breakfast.

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Okay, if I lived in the middle of a neighborhood and my neighbor here wants to have seven cars and seven people overspending the weekend, he can do that if this passes?

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If the Board of Zoning Appeals, yes, approves of that use in R1.

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Well, they're going to have to approve it if we approve this.

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No, it says that it has to be approved.

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I'm in the minority. Yeah, they would have to meet.

38:1111

First, I read this when it was sent out.

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And that's what I thought it meant. So this will allow up to seven people joining a homeowner in their house for a week.

38:25 – 38:5113

Yes. Yes, and this... The house that would be proposed to have seven guests would have to meet the billing code, state licensing, and it would have to meet our parking requirements. So all of the parking would have to be off street. So they'd have to have seven parking spaces for the guests. They couldn't just put people on their yard.

38:5111

So is that handicap they have to meet? Is that sprinkler system they have to meet? Yes. So you're really not talking about a residential house?

38:59 – 39:5713

do we need to make a special so some of the districts the r1 zoning districts have larger houses and you think of downtown with our historic homes or mansions if they could accommodate the parking and the the guest rooms and sprinkling and building code um to meet our requirements uh then if the bza reviews that and also planning staff approves then they could have a bed and breakfast in that r1 zoning district and And, yeah, I thought about that concern of, you know, in a residential cul-de-sac neighborhood where you have a smaller home, you can't meet the requirements for having seven guests and having a park.

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So where do you know in Greenville that would meet this?

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The Dowdy House. That's what we're talking about. The old Dowdy House. Yeah. Up behind Little Talk.

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Okay. And that's the only house basically in Greenville? has the acreage to to meet the parking requirements correct maybe the big spring in there on the north night yeah which one yeah they can meet the parking requirements how is that

40:374

There's a couple of homes on South Main that could beat that as well. Oh, yeah, up there on the hill. Up on the hill.

40:47 – 42:0413

Yeah, and there's some houses in Greenville that have... larger amount of land and are larger in size and square footage those are probably the most likely homes to meet the requirements because i mean even a house could have a guest room for two people and a small parking lot And to the other point is that this residential, the R1 zoning district, there's houses where if it was three units or four people, I mean... We have houses in downtown or in our neighborhoods that have guests that come over and visit, family, or even people who sublet out their rooms. So this would just have to be a use upon review, and it would have to meet our requirements for parking. So we wouldn't just allow anybody to just come in and go ahead and start parking. parking cars out on a residential street.

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Sounds like it might be what we're trying to open up, though. Why couldn't the residents in question, and I know where it is, why couldn't they come to the Board of Zoning Appeals and ask for special, I don't know, special...

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Can't think of the word I'm thinking about. Special use.

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Special use for that specific residence instead of opening up a can of worms.

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So any special use permitted in our zoning ordinance has to be explicitly noted. And that's the comments from our town attorney. So we can't create any special use that's not already written into our ordinance. And so that's where this would be written into our ordinance.

43:0411

Didn't we just rezone one that wasn't in the right zoning for what the use was just then? R1.

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Yeah, that was R1 that was used as an office.

43:2011

Multiple offices.

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Multiple, yeah.

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So it can happen is what I'm saying, right? I guess I'm not understanding something here.

43:32 – 43:4910

On the Planning Commission, I think they were trying, they're trying to codify what we're trying to do and give people an opportunity. For example, the Big Spring Inn, when it was doing what it was doing, it was just allowed.

43:5011

I understand that. So we don't need to bring that up because I don't know if the Big Spring Inn is sprinkled now, is it? Being handicapped, blah, blah, blah.

43:59 – 44:1710

But I guess the thing is, if it's in one of those zones, then it has to come to the Board of Zoning Appeals. And I think all of us would not want to have a normal residential area with a bed and breakfast.

44:1711

That's what I'm getting at, Mayor. That's exactly what I'm getting at. But this would allow it if they want to go to that drastic measure.

44:27 – 44:534

If they meet the specific requirements for a bed and breakfast. We're not talking about just any random person that decides they've got extra rooms, let's turn them into a B&B. They have to meet the definition of what a B&B is. And if they meet those specific requirements, then they could take advantage of this. It's not just opening up a can. I don't see it as opening up just a can where anyone can do this. You have to meet those specific requirements.

44:547

Maybe the couple that are here, are they here?

45:037

They can explain what they're trying to do.

45:12 – 46:251

So we already have, when we purchased the home, we are already zoned as a bed and breakfast. It was used as a bed and breakfast prior to us ever even purchasing the home. What we're trying to do is expand, not just as a bed and breakfast, but as a community event center where we can have You know, movies on the lawn, music festivals, different things that the community can come to the property and do. Currently, there isn't anything in, correct me, Justin, if I'm wrong on this. Currently, there isn't any language that allows us to do that. for the community events or a wedding or a bridal shower. So what we're trying to do, we've been working with Justin and many other people at the city trying to come up with something that will allow us to have those types of events. And my understanding is this particular amendment that they're trying to put in is adding to the language of a bed and breakfast that will allow us not only to do a bed and breakfast, but also be able to host events. So we can do a wedding downtown on a historic property and without violating any codes.

46:27 – 46:381

So it's not about changing the bed and breakfast rules other than adding that if we are zoned as this, that we can additionally have events without being an issue.

46:3811

What's your existing zoning right now?

46:411

I know it. B1.

46:4211

B1, okay.

46:441

Yeah, but we can only, and we do not have fire sprinklers yet. From my understanding, we are limited to three.

46:543

Is that right, Bert?

46:551

I think. Yeah, we can only have.

47:00 – 47:1617

Yes. Yeah. Yes. Bed and breakfast.

48:05 – 48:441

Right. And we understand that we can't have indoor events at this point because we don't have a sprinkler system and we're not going. We don't want the liability of that. So right now we're trying to generate money to pay for those upgrades. But we have to be able to have people on the outside of the property, which is a fairly large property. But we need to be able to start generating some kind of money so that we can continue to invest in the property, bring it up to speed so that it can be a full-blown event center down the line once we're able to meet those requirements. So right now, this is all about being able to do outside events.

48:45 – 49:1311

I, for one, appreciate what you're trying to do. Thank you. But I need to protect everybody else. And let me go back to Mr. Hensley here. If I wanted to and I had the house and I had the room, you live beside me, I could convert it. With this language is what I'm understanding. I can convert my house. If you meet through a park. That's correct. Not in R1, you shouldn't be able to do that. I might be thinking wrong.

49:13 – 49:241

I don't think that that is what the amendment is about. The amendment is only about allowing us to be able to have outdoor events in that district.

49:2411

You're in B1.

49:261

Correct.

49:2611

Okay. That's not what I'm concerned about.

49:29 – 49:4110

One other thing. There are three portions to this. So if we choose not to do R1, we can do that. But they do want to try to get moving forward.

49:4111

I'm with them. I hope they do.

49:437

Any other questions for us? Thanks a bunch.

49:49 – 50:1816

On the R1 part. So this would have to come before the BZA. the BZA would make that determination if you can make that work. But a lot of, not all, but a vast majority of the R1 neighborhoods in the town also have subdivision restrictions or covenants that might preclude this from even happening. But then that will be presented before the BZA at that time for the BZA to determine if that would even be an allowed use based on the subdivision restrictions also.

50:19 – 50:3713

And neighbors would have to be mailed to, this would be coming up for review. So they would have to have a voice with the planning or the Board of Zoning Appeals. if they have concerns on traffic or buffering or anything where it can negatively impact their property.

50:37 – 51:0810

Well, and just going on from Mr. Teague's comments, If we don't change anything on R1, somebody could come in, if they're in the Big Spring or they're the big house up on South Main, or they could come into the Board of Zoning Appeals and request that. And if they met all the requirements, we're just saying you've got to get the approval rather than getting the approval. Maybe we could leave half of it out.

51:0811

Yes, and why change it? Okay, go ahead with your other parts.

51:13 – 53:5913

Thank you. Thank you. Okay, so part two, which we were kind of segueing into is the neighborhood gathering venue. And just like Christy was saying that. for properties that are in the B one neighborhood business district for small event venues, um, that are limited in nature. Um, so these aren't large commercial concert events. They're relegated to a max of 125 persons. Um, they're episodic in nature. Um, this would be, uh, This would be reviewed by the Planning Commission so long as they would meet requirements for being in guidelines of our municipal code as far as noise requirements, hours of operation. any buffering requirements, noise attenuation. So the Planning Commission would have to review and there would have to be a, depending on how large the site would be, a site plan or a site plot plan permitted and reviewed. Parking would have to be addressed. And then there's also a revocation reserved for the Planning Commission should there be continued complaints. And so this would be smaller gatherings like bridal showers, weddings, retirement parties, or I think one of the intended events was like a outdoor movie on the lawn event for the neighborhood. And so this also for the B one zoning district for small commercial activities. This is in line in alignment with that purpose of the zoning district where you could have grocery stores, you could have. You can have convenience centers, gas stations, which also generate traffic as well, or could even generate more traffic than a small wedding venue. So if there's any questions on that, I can get more into detail.

54:0817

Are you going to the third part? Yes, I can go to the third part.

54:13 – 56:4513

Okay, and then part three. So when I was reviewing events or places of gatherings or assemblies, I found that places of amusement and assembly is actually in our B4 arterial business district. And that put a question mark above my head because I started looking at our B2 central business district where we do have events with large assemblies and amusement and entertainment. And then I looked at our B2 zoning or our central business district and didn't find that there was any permitted use by right for any theaters auditoriums event centers and that that's where that spurred me to address this for staff clarity that with the central business district having you know capital theater um general morgan in conference center and then there's a new theater being built down depot street and then there's also in the b3 intermediate district we have the nice wonger performing arts center those zoning districts don't permit amusement and assembly uses so That's where I am proposing to put amusement and assembly and the definition of it into the B2 central business district, which would meet the intent and purpose of the district for serving commercial uses and pedestrian foot traffic and so that use even if amusement assembly is in the b2 and b3 district or permit permitted in those districts would still have to be John Potter, approved with any new development by a site plan and the development review committee and utilities would have to look and evaluate make sure that capacity traffic circulation fire safety could all be addressed. Okay.

56:45 – 57:0810

John Potter, we've got three things to talk about so um does anybody have any more questions for justin. So I'd like to make a recommendation on phase one to table this until we can do some more research and bring up Mr. Teague's suggestions.

57:0911

I'll make a motion to table it.

57:10 – 57:2110

I have a motion. Is there a second? Second. Any further discussion? All those in favor say aye.

57:2310

Those against like sign. Motion carries.

57:259

I think we need to click the commissions that Burt was talking about.

57:299

As well.

57:31 – 57:432

And we're talking about the first phase of it, which addresses the R1 and R1A.

57:45 – 59:3319

The R1 specifically states that it shall be single-family residential use only. That's all. The R1A allows you to have two family dwellings, which would be a duplex only in addition. So Mr. Teague is concerned. don't want to put something in the r1 or the r1a as a special exception to go to zoning appeals that contradicts the the whole zoning the whole zoning and the whole purpose of the zoning now there there is a way that we can we got to get these definitions very very clear on the difference between a boarding house a owner occupied airbnb or owner occupied um bed and breakfast and then a non owner occupied bed and breakfast so I think taking this first phase out so we can re-examine the r1 and the r1a that's been proposed to make sure we get that right because giving an exception it's just about impossible to take it back once you get an established use Rest of it, you know, that's going to allow these folks that are coming with this request for the rest of the things we can. I know in this attempt and looking at this, our zoning ordinance doesn't really cover a lot of this Airbnb and bed and breakfast stuff. It just hadn't been updated. We need to revisit that R1 and R1A because it's just not clear and it could cause a lot of confusion.

59:3310

Can you clean it up and get it back in front of us because I know this is time sensitive. I think we can do the second part and go ahead and approve it and that will allow that to happen.

59:43 – 59:5519

Phase 2 and Part 2 and Part 3, that's going to allow them to move forward and not restrict them any. Because they're in a separate situation completely from the R1 and R1A, sir.

59:557

When can you come back with those definitions? June? June?

1:00:046

But we can go ahead and do the other two parts. Yeah.

1:00:07 – 1:00:3119

Okay. Get the other two parts passed. They're good to go. They've been great to work with and taking every step. So as I said earlier, we got a couple of things we needed to find better so that there's not confusion. That way it's going to work best for everybody. And we can... It's...

1:00:3311

Would you like for me to withdraw my motion, a table on it, and table part one? And that's what, yeah, that's what I was thinking.

1:00:417

That's not what I made, but I will do that. That's what I voted I for. It was just taking out that one. So you can just remake it. Okay, thank you.

1:00:5010

So part one.

1:00:5211

Excluding part one. Okay. I'll make a motion when you approve two and three.

1:00:5710

Okay, well, I think we have to do all three of them separate. So one will be tabled.

1:01:0511

That's great. I'll make a motion to table part one.

1:01:1010

Any further discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Make a motion. Will you approve part two?

1:01:18 – 1:01:3110

Any further discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Make a motion. Will you approve part three? Second. Any further discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye.

1:01:3210

They all carry.

1:01:3311

And thank you, Justin, for your work. Thank you.

1:01:3510

Thank you for your patience. You're looking at things and thinking about them, and thank you. Yes.

1:01:43 – 1:01:5413

And for part one, I can just have that removed from the draft ordinance so that part two and part three can move forward, and we'll just amend.

1:01:547

Thank you. Thank you. And thank you, folks.

1:01:59 – 1:02:1710

Yes. All right, 8-5 is consideration to accept RFQ and allow interim city manager to negotiate a contract not to exceed an identified amount to facilitate city manager recruitment process. Hathi.

1:02:17 – 1:04:4215

Yes. So we received six proposals for this city manager search. And before I go into that, Christina's got it up on the screen, and I'll go into detail about how we had an internal committee consisting of, HR, which is Patsy and Andrew, and then Laura and I, we all met individually and we scored each of the six proposals and then we tallied up our scores and we had a recommendation for you. The scores were so close in proximity between MGT Impact Solutions at a score of 375. Christina, you might have to pull that other sheet up, the score sheet. I sent it to you. And then they scored the high score of 375 MGT at the bottom there. And then the second one was Sumter Local Government, and they were shortly behind that at 367. So since they were so close, an eight-point difference, the committee thought it was best to reach out to them, the top two, and see if they could do a quick call with us via Teams. And so we met with those two firms on Monday and had a great conversation with all of them. And there is some... I feel like either one of those would be a good choice. We obviously... MGT scored a little higher, and so that was going to be our initial recommendation. But then after having those two meetings on Monday via Teams, we saw that there's a lot of similarities between the two. But I guess the first question before we go over the similarities and maybe a little bit of the differences, probably part one of this is to go back to our MTAS because on March 17th during a regular city council meeting the search through MTAS was paused and so before I guess we can even proceed if you want to go this route in choosing one of these firms we probably need to figure out since that is on Paul's, what you want to do with MTAS first before you even just consider going with another firm?

1:04:4210

Can we talk about it since it's not on the agenda?

1:04:4515

Well, it's a part of that.

1:04:4710

Well, was it?

1:04:48 – 1:05:233

Well, yes. So on March the 17th, there was a decision to pause as well as look into an executive firm. So there were two parts to that. So going back and looking at that and kind of following procedurally, at some point in the motion today, if there's going to be one to go with an executive firm, there needs to be a decision to continue to pause on the MTAS results or to abandon the MTAS results. Does that make sense?

1:05:27 – 1:05:384

Before we go any further in discussion of MTAS so that no one turns into a pumpkin, I work for MTAS, so I want to make sure that's disclosed. So proceed.

1:05:39 – 1:05:557

I'll make a motion to abandon our MTAS situation. I mean, if we got these proposals, then obviously we made a decision to go that way. This is just a cleanup, a formality.

1:05:55 – 1:06:0611

I did not make a decision to go that way. I just want to get that out there. I said we could take those proposals, but we'll just go on. She's got a motion.

1:06:0610

We have a motion. Is there a second? Second. Is there any further discussion? Are you going to excuse yourself?

1:06:124

Whenever it came time, I was going to.

1:06:1510

So we have a motion and a second. All those in favor, say aye.

1:06:1910

Those against, like sign. Aye. Okay. So two to one. Thank you. All right. Now, Kathy, maybe you can go forward.

1:06:27 – 1:07:5615

So after going back to those conversations that we had on Monday with the top two firms, MGT, and Sumter, like I mentioned before, very similar in nature in a lot of ways. They both do a six-phase recruitment approach. They both initially want to meet with city council first. They both want to be involved in talking with department heads or staff. And then costs are similar. We didn't ask in the RFQ for a dollar amount for these proposals for this contract, but they graciously all provided those. The only one that was in question was MGT, because if you can see there, They initially just put 12 hours included and then base price wasn't included. But after our conversation with them on Monday, we found out that their base price to do 12 hours worth of service in the beginning was 21,000. Or I take that back. MGT was 23,000 for 12 hours of service. And that includes an organizational survey. Obviously, additional services such as advertising, consultant travel, candidate travel, and an optional community survey at $3,500 would be additional cost. And then anything above 12 hours would come in at $225 per hour.

1:07:5711

Plus expenses.

1:07:58 – 1:11:1015

Yeah, plus expenses, advertising, consultant travel, candidate travel. In regards to Sumter, theirs was a fee of $21,000. but then advertising consultant travel and candidate travel are additional cost. We learned through our conversations that you can anticipate advertising anywhere from 1,000 to 1,500 probably, and then with travel expenses, in this process with the consultant travel and potential, however many candidates they have and where they're from, you could probably go ahead and estimate maybe another 10 to 15 there. So when we talk about a money, a max amount that you want to expend to spend on this, just keep those costs in mind because those would be additional. But kind of the difference, they all have a tiered approach, which again, MGT had a two-tier approach. Sumter had a three-tiered approach. A thing about MGT that was interesting is they do not, this is one of the things that I think you all expressed, that you wanted to see all the resumes. MGT said that they provide a complete applicant list, but they only share the resumes that make it to those tiered one or tier two approach. The other good thing about that, though, is they kind of create a mini resume to highlight their strengths if they make it in tier one and tier two, and they attach that to their full resume, which is kind of like a quick summary of their strengths. Their, for MGT, approximate time frame is 14 weeks. Going back to Sumter, They have that three-tiered approach, but they conduct the first round interviews for you all. And they record, they do those via Zoom with each of the candidates and they record those interviews and then they send them to you. So that takes you out of that initial step, but you get a copy of the recording so that you can see. And then they make a recommendation of who makes it to the next round and And then if you see something that you liked in the first interview that they did via Zoom with the recording, you can obviously change that. And then both of the final interviews through both companies would be in person with you all. And the timeframe on that one is eight weeks. So a lot of similar characteristics out of both. I think you would be pleased with either one of those. But initially, just in our individual scoring, MGT scored a little bit higher. But then after our phone call the other day and just from feedback from our first process and then just kind of hearing the overall process that they gave us, we then changed our mind and are thinking that Sumter was kind of aligns more with the expectations that you all have shared. But either one I think you'd be pleased with.

1:11:12 – 1:11:2710

Okay. We have a recommendation for the group to connect, collect, shoot, pick up, pick Sumter Consulting Group. So we have a recommendation. Do I hear a motion?

1:11:31 – 1:12:2415

I guess another point in that motion is if you choose to go with one, what is the identified amount that you are willing to go up to? Because Sumter is 21,000 base price plus taking into consideration advertising and travel costs for consultant and potential candidates. Most of them said they can range from 8 to 15 in candidates after they go through these tiered approaches. And then another thing is a question to laura is funding how are we going to fund this and then um i guess that was my main considerations when you're making your recommendation or i'm making my recommendation you're deciding if you want to move forward okay um well i appreciate all the hard work that you've done appreciate y'all working together on this

1:12:26 – 1:13:0610

My opinion or my expectations for a search is for whoever the consultant is to talk to all the candidates. And we didn't have that in the first one. My opinion also, having those people come in and spend 30 minutes, they were not given any information. They weren't really given anything that they needed to work to. They weren't talked to. They didn't reach out to anyone. They didn't try to help. And this company not only does that, but they also ended an 18-month.

1:13:0815

So Sumter is, they said they could do it as quickly as they.

1:13:1110

No, and they're an 18-month company.

1:13:14 – 1:13:5315

Oh, so each one of them have, are you talking about the guarantee, the two-year guarantee? So that was another part that MGT had a one-year guarantee and the Sumter had a two-year guarantee, which basically means if for some reason the city manager that you were to choose, if they resign within that guaranteed timeframe or if they were terminated for whatever reason, then that firm... would come back at no cost to do the search over, obviously excluding travel costs for consultants and the candidate process again and advertising costs.

1:13:53 – 1:14:174

So Kathy, you mentioned advertising. Just to clarify, What all is encompassed in that? Are we talking they will send it out to different organizations and they're paying those organizations to publish it on their websites? What all does that include? Are we talking social media presence? Yes.

1:14:17 – 1:14:3715

So both of them, when we talk to both of them, they're very similar in that aspect, too. They do TCMA. They do TML. They do ICMA, which we didn't have before. And then they use LinkedIn. Most of them said to stay away from some other popular sites.

1:14:374

ZipRecruiter.

1:14:39 – 1:15:4315

Certain things like that. They post it on their own individual websites, too. And so, like... just last week, I get a notification so often that shares any kind of openings in the state of Tennessee. So with Sumter, for example, Sumter is actually conducting the city manager search for another area in Tennessee right now. And so on that link that I receive on a monthly notification of all the openings, It says Sumter's handling this, and you can click on their link, and then it shows you it's on their website. And they develop all a marketing brochure first, which is not like a brochure like you think. It's a brochure that goes on their website and kind of highlights. It would highlight all the things about Greenville. And so that kind of just gives a, that's the brochure is the highlighting part. And then they have a link where you can apply. And then they have a link that includes the job description and then more about town benefits.

1:15:434

And they're handling just the administrative of getting it to those different entities. Okay.

1:15:5015

They also mentioned, too, that they have a list of folks that, I guess through their website, that they know that they push things out to.

1:15:59 – 1:16:374

And so when we get a pool, let's say we go with Sumter or MGT, whichever one, if those are the two, and they get a pool of applicants. When we did this the first time, that initial pool of applicants, that all was shared out publicly publicly. I know there was some legislation that was being discussed about changing that at the state level of not having to disclose that information during the first pool, or during the first phase of getting your pool, but do we have to share the names of the initial pool similar in the way that we did with the MTAS search?

1:16:3815

So we found the verbiage on that recently. It was just odd that you bring that up. Yep, we did.

1:16:43 – 1:17:333

And I think was it Sumter was the one that had an example in their proposal. I'm not sure which page Kathy, one of us may be able to find it, but they actually have a notice to their candidates that say, here's basically what Tennessee's open records laws are, what the rules are, here's what your exposure is going to be. The example that she has is for a different state. But they do go to that length to make sure that the candidates know based on what open records are for each state, wherever they are, wherever the candidates are, wherever their search is, they make sure that that blurb is in each one, gets taken to each one of the candidates. So they're going to be the ones that are going to handle what that looks like for us.

1:17:3415

The verbiage used here is that candidates should be prepared for an unusually high level of public visibility, community scrutiny, and media attention through the whole selection process.

1:17:45 – 1:18:493

Now, I will say, just as I did with the last group that we had in here, anytime something like this that's unusual that comes up and I get a request for the information, just so you know I had 32 requests for information before we ever got the candidates list the last time so there's some curiosity about the group and who's going to be our next city manager so with that I always go to open records Even though we have a new consultant, I would again consult with Open Records and say, here's our process, here's what we're doing, here's what the consultant has, what does this look like? And when the consultant comes in person, my question is, is that something that they handle directly with Open Records or we handle with Open Records? So that's clear on the front end. Because that can be kind of touchy. But that was one of the things for me having to deal with that the last time that stood out in Sumter for me that they take the time to make sure the candidates know that there is a level of exposure they're going to have.

1:18:523

Did I answer your question?

1:18:53 – 1:19:204

No, you did. Absolutely. Because I was concerned, one, from your standpoint of the administrative public records, but also it puts our candidates in a very vulnerable position. Yes, it does. When they've applied for a position and it is blasted in a newspaper and... you know, their employer sees it, and that just puts them in a very precarious situation. And I just want to make sure that we do better this round.

1:19:20 – 1:19:413

Yes. So my question, again, my question will go straight to, after I speak with the consultant about that particular topic, I'll go straight to Open Records Council and get something before we ever have any candidates. While they're in the marketing phase, I'd like to get something, and then I'll share that with you all so at least you kind of know where they're at as well. Excellent.

1:19:414

Thank you.

1:19:423

You're welcome.

1:19:42 – 1:21:1915

And I guess just to add to this, if you were to pick a firm today to move forward with for me to go out and negotiate a contract, then, of course, we'll bring that back to you at the meeting in June for you all to approve that contract. And then at that point, that firm selected – would then start the process with scheduling a meeting with you all first to see what your needs and wants are for the community and your expectations for the next city manager. And then they'll start working on their marketing brochure and the presentation of how that's going to go out to all those TCMA, TML, ICMA, LinkedIn, and on their websites. And you get to review and approve that brochure, but it's more of a website brochure versus like an old school brochure that you think of. And then they kind of take over and take the process of recruiting those folks and taking in their applications, their resumes, and then, like I said, they kind of handle the first part of it for you all. They handle those first interviews, but one will give you just the list and then one will give you all the resumes. Now, if they meet all those tiers, then they'll share all that with you. But that kind of takes some of the, I guess, the commitment and pressure off of you all. But at least with Sumter, you get a copy of the Zoom recording so that you can see how their first interview went.

1:21:2610

Okay, we have a motion, or shoot, a recommendation to pick some term.

1:21:34 – 1:21:4511

May I say something before we do this? So we undid the pause on our last search that MTAS did. What's that mean?

1:21:4610

Those three candidates are kicked out. Have those three candidates heard from us? They have not.

1:21:5211

Who are they? Does MTAS usually?

1:21:554

I cannot answer any question.

1:21:5811

You can't?

1:21:584

I cannot and I will not answer any questions related to MTAS.

1:22:0311

Thank you, Mr. Hanson. We appreciate that.

1:22:054

You're welcome.

1:22:0611

So who does that?

1:22:1015

So that would have been the person leading those efforts at that point in time.

1:22:1311

That would be MTAS.

1:22:1415

That would have been Mr. Auger.

1:22:17 – 1:22:3811

Have we ever thought about going back to Mr. Auger and saving the money? What are we looking at, $30,000 to $50,000? All of a sudden, maybe more? When you Google it, it's like $40,000 to $70,000. In this budget season, I don't like to hear that.

1:22:38 – 1:23:3310

You know, if we don't spend money to do this... The candidates that we had were not what we need to have. We've got to start working on a landfill we have done nothing on stormwater we have roads that need to be done and we need somebody that can help get us moving forward and catching up because we're behind i went to a stormwater meeting a week ago we're probably five years behind the other towns that were in there that's that's awful we've got to get somebody that can help lead us and tim you know you're letting our former mayor who put property out on the White House road and did not recuse himself from any discussions about annexations or...

1:23:3611

I don't know where you're going with that, Mayor, but you better stop.

1:23:38 – 1:23:5310

I'm not going to because I'm tired of it. So we have a recommendation to... Pick Sumter. Do I hear a motion?

1:23:567

I'll make that motion.

1:23:5810

Second. Is there any further discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Those against, sign.

1:24:06 – 1:24:3110

Thank you. Appreciate it. Item 8.6 is consideration to accept RFQ for Phase I site assessment. And to exceed, oh, I guess we need to go back, maybe up to $50,000 for the budget. Do we need to make a motion on that or do we?

1:24:3311

And where would that money come from, Laura?

1:24:3610

We had a person that offered to cover the cost of that.

1:24:3911

I saw your email. I mean, we can't do that. I mean, right off the bat, we can't do that.

1:24:4510

Somebody wants to give a donation to our community, and we can't do that?

1:24:5111

That's correct. For one specific thing, like hiring a city manager, that's my opinion.

1:24:5710

That just doesn't look good. Can we see what the comptroller says?

1:25:013

So I've asked the comptroller, and their opinion is if the board can't agree whether to accept that donation that needs to be vetted by our city attorney.

1:25:1010

Okay. So we can check on that.

1:25:1311

Other than that, where would it come from?

1:25:163

Either more budget cuts, or that's probably close to another penny on the property tax rate.

1:25:2010

Okay. Thank you.

1:25:213

You're welcome.

1:25:2210

Could we use it for...

1:25:263

If you take it from fund balance, it has to come from the rainy day reserve. I'm sorry, did you have a question? That was a question. Okay, yes.

1:25:32 – 1:25:4710

We could use it for the rainy day reserve. All right. 8.6, we went over that. Are you going to go over that one? Yes. Yes.

1:25:50 – 1:26:4615

So with this one, this is for the grant that we have through TDEC called the BRAG Grant, which is the Brownfield Redevelopment Area Grant. This is to do a Phase 1 and a Phase 2 at West Main Recycling. This part of this process, this RFQ, is exclusively just for Phase 1. And we received four proposals on this. And we had another committee, a separate committee on this one. We had Bert C., our chief building official, Andy Bruels, our development services director, Tony Morrison. Landfield Manager and Scott Keith, the Public Works Director, reviewed each of these four proposals that you see up on the screen. And their recommendation after reviewing each one of those is to move forward with Mattern and Craig for Phase 1 with this grant, the BRAG grant at West Main Recycling.

1:26:4610

Okay, we have a recommendation. Do I hear a motion? Second?

1:26:5610

Any further discussion? All those in favor, say aye.

1:27:02 – 1:27:2110

All those against, like sign. Motion carries. Item 8.7 is consideration to approve a memo of understanding between the Town of Greenville and Green County Heritage Trust on improvements for Old Harmony Cemetery. Hello.

1:27:22 – 1:28:2014

Our chairman of the committee couldn't be here and our president couldn't be here. So I'm an ex-officio board member, so I will present this. This is continuing on with the Old Harmony Cemetery improvements and What this memo of understanding is basically helping for us to discuss is, or for you all to discuss, is that the Heritage Trust would be the financial backer on this. The town would not be spending money on these improvements unless you all decided to do that. This is just putting that into language, and Laura helped me with this. And the trust has gone through this and approved this. It says up to $16,000 on here that they would be contributing to Old Harmony Cemetery at this point. And then as it moved forward with construction or other things, we could amend this or do a new memo.

1:28:2110

Okay. We have a recommendation. Do I hear a motion to approve? Is there a second?

1:28:29 – 1:28:4810

Any further discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. All those against, like sign. Motion carries. Now it's consideration to approve a resolution accepting the MOU between the Town of Greenville and the Greene County Heritage Trust on improvements to Old Harmony Cemetery.

1:28:4914

I'm back. Laura says that when we do a memo, we do a resolution. So this is the resolution.

1:28:547

Motion to approve. Thank you.

1:28:56 – 1:29:2510

Second. Any further discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Those against, like sign. Motion carries. Item 8.9 is consideration to approve a resolution to increase roll-off container pull charges effective July 1, 2026. Roll-off pull charge revenue is accounted for in the municipal solid waste run. Mr. Keith.

1:29:29 – 1:30:248

This was just based on going back, looking at the current pull charges. They seemed fairly low. I don't think they've, I think it was, Laura, you might remember it was 2010, I believe, was the last time they were examined. So based on what we've pulled out of our work order system currently... The cost given the truck and the personnel to spend an hour to maybe even two hours doing a pull, going to the landfill empty and take the container back and resetting was substantially more than $75. We proposed, we discussed it and proposed a fairly modest increase really, but it gets us closer to where we should be. It's an increment of step. And like I say, it's going to get us closer. We're probably still a little bit below where we need to be. But just given the current environment of everything going up, I felt like this was a good step toward being where we should be.

1:30:2411

I've noticed a lot of people getting in that business. Do you know any idea what they're renting for?

1:30:32 – 1:31:068

I believe, I mean, we've had a little bit of a hard time. getting the information uh we we've reached out to mtas but they can't do that type of stuff for private agents it really doesn't matter we need to do what we're making they're doing pretty well yeah i think even the county is is quite a bit higher than we are so um i know we can't jump off the deep end and do all that at once so i feel like if we just step it up and be consistent i make a motion we'll get through i have a motion is there a second any further discussion

1:31:07 – 1:31:2610

All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries. Item 810 is consideration to approve a resolution to increase tipping fees at the landfill effective July 1st, 2026 for the 2027 budget. Hey there.

1:31:286

Well, we got to make the money to ask for the money.

1:31:3110

There you go.

1:31:32 – 1:32:336

So... So we propose going up on our rates. We've kind of done a study of the local surrounding counties, and Carter County was $61, Hamblin County 60, Kingsport 65, and Alcoa 60. That's anything coming in. So we propose to go up to 62 on our demo from 50 to 62, kind of hitting the middle there because of all the expenses that I heard you discuss a few minutes ago coming down the pike. So we'll be right there with everybody else and that may help with surrounding counties bringing their debris in here, which we really don't have room for right now. I don't wanna lose customers. So we'll stay close to where everybody else is at and that'll help with all our expenses.

1:32:34 – 1:32:5610

I'll make a motion we approve. Any further discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. All those against, like sign. Motion carries. Item 811 is consideration of a facilities use agreement between the Town of Greenville, Greenville City Schools Board of Education, and Tennessee College of Applied Technology, Morristown.

1:32:57 – 1:33:2315

So this is just an annual agreement that we put in front of you each and every year where currently TCAT in Morristown is using the Greenville Career and Technology Academy on Howe Henry Road for adult and evening classes. And so just an annual agreement that goes in front of you to make sure that you're okay with TCAT being in that facility during the nighttime hours.

1:33:247

Motion to approve.

1:33:25 – 1:33:4310

Second. Any further discussion? All those for say aye. Aye. Those against, like sign. Motion carries. Consideration to approve a service agreement between MPAS and the town to assist in the selection of a candidate for the position of police chief.

1:33:45 – 1:35:0115

So Chief Spano is not here back there, but Patsy and I and Chief Spano have been meeting with Jeff Stiles. He's the police consultant for our area and MTAS police consultant. They've been working with the town over the past couple years. They've helped in our last police chief process, and then I believe they did that as well. No, they did not. Okay, so they've done that with the last police chief search, and they have what they call an assessment center. and then they bring in assessors, which are other police chiefs in the nearby area, and they go through that process with them. And so far, when we've talked to Jeff Stiles a couple times, we've been real pleased with how that would go. And from what I gathered from the last go-around, people were pleased with that. And I know the FIRE consultant for MTAS has been used before, And it's kind of a similar process as the one that the police use. So I would recommend that we use MTAS for this help in making a recommendation for the next chief of police for the town of Greenville.

1:35:024

Just for the record, I will not be voting on this agenda item due to my employment with MTAS.

1:35:1210

Okay, we have a recommendation. Do I hear a motion to approve? So moved. Is there a second? Second. All those in favor, say aye.

1:35:1910

Those against, like sign. Motion carries. 813 is consideration of interlocal agreement with the Third Judicial Task Force.

1:35:2915

This is, oh, okay. Well, never mind. I will gladly let you come up here.

1:35:392

This is an annual renewal to participate in the third district drug task force.

1:35:47 – 1:36:0910

I make the motion we approve. Second. Any further discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Those against like sign. Thank you, Kevin. Consideration of change order number one, class three transfer facility design to support demolition landfill expansion project. Hello again.

1:36:09 – 1:38:126

Now we're going to ask to suspend it. We're doing this change order. What we're doing is trying to get the transfer station ready, permit it through TDEC, the old transfer station, so that we can transfer the demo from there to Morristown until the landfill gets opened up. So... We've gotta get the engineering done, the permitting, and I'm hoping we don't have to use it but maybe a year, year and a half until a new one opens up. But the way the engineers are talking, we probably will have to transport for a little while. So this provides a way to do that because the county can't handle all the traffic coming in there to the existing transfer station. It shouldn't be too much to this process. TDEC says probably just take a few months to permit it because it was permitted in the past for that use. It was a transfer station years ago and bailing operation there. So he's saying that it wouldn't, he don't think, if it's minimal, they'll probably not exceed the 9,500 on that, on the change order. But we'll have improvements we'll have to do like a, a larger door on one end for the transfer trucks to go through and we'll have to cut out the road which the we can probably do that part so we're probably looking at another 15 20 000 on that as well on down the road but right now we're just trying to get the the permitting um He's got to do the permit writing, the operations manual, and the engineering and design for the improvements for this building.

1:38:12 – 1:38:2810

You've got that money put away in savings. So we have a recommendation to our here. There's a motion. Is there a second? Second. Any further discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Thank you, Tony.

1:38:34 – 1:40:108

item 815 is consideration of the purchase of the street sweeper and to support road maintenance beautification and stormwater ms4 programs okay so this is for the purchase of the street sweeper i was a little bit reluctant to to bring this actually just because of the the sheer expense of it and you know the time what's going on but we we're Approaching the end of the fiscal year with a good cash balance in our state street aid and we can actually purchase this unit out of that account And there's actually one on the ground ready for delivery over in Knoxville We went down to Morristown today. They've got two of these units. They well they've got One of these and one of a it's the same company just a different it's a mechanical versus the purchase of regenerative air and They've had theirs for about four to five years. They like it. No problems other than normal maintenance. We talked to their fleet supervisor and their director, and they're both very pleased with these machines, the global machines. It is a source well contract. And really, we can use it for several different things. And he was working on that in his stormwater budget, so we'll use it for stormwater, street maintenance, beautification, across a lot of different uses. So it's an opportunity to get it by the end of this fiscal year, which I think is a good thing.

1:40:1211

So instead of just a jetpack truck, it's a sweeper also.

1:40:17 – 1:40:438

It is a purpose-built sweeper from the ground up. It's not a cabin chassis with a sweeper on top of it. It's actually purpose-built specifically for sweeping. But it's a vac truck also. It is. So you can use it to clean out tiles, CMPs, RCPs, whatever you want. To some degree, it's a regenerative air. It's the same kind of concept, the process, the one we have. So you could do that, yeah.

1:40:4811

And it's coming out of the public works budget?

1:40:50 – 1:41:203

It has a state street aid. That's a permitted expense. And at the end of FY25, there was an available cash balance of $543,241. So I had made the recommendation to Scott, knowing that that was needed in advance for some of the stormwater stuff, as well as just from the ground up a true street sweeper, that we purchase that before the end of June and utilize those funds. That way, anything left in next year's revenue can go toward the contract paving.

1:41:21 – 1:41:438

instead of paving this is what you choose instead of painting roads the current fiscal year we are actually going to do some in-house paving before the end of the fiscal year so there will be something to show for that because there's some some left a small amount a small amount so we're gonna we're gonna try to do a few segments over off of housely this fiscal year but

1:41:4411

I make a motion we approve.

1:41:4710

Motion and a second. Any further discussion? All those in favor, say aye.

1:41:519

Aye. Those against, like, sign.

1:41:5310

Motion carries. Thank you. Item 816 is report on project closeout at Eagle's Rest Pocket Park.

1:42:04 – 1:43:4616

Very quick. It's been a long meeting, and you all have been patient. And I know everybody wants to get out of here. I don't know if this has been done in the past on a capital project or not, but I just felt this is the way I normally would do it. So just to wrap up on the end of the project, just so you all know how everything went. I mean, a lot of times you fund things and you see it on the front end, but you don't really get the back story on the back end. But this project has completed the initial phase that was, you can see in the document there, of what The initial budget was $175,000, and that part has been done. Everything's been done satisfactorily. We were able to negotiate a little bit of savings on a few items that we had some discrepancies on, so we ended up with maybe about a 2% cost savings. It was a little bit. But the main thing, the reason I wanted to present this was, so you know that it was done, it was within budget, but we also learned a few things. Some of the things that I learned from this project, and I came into it late, that we need to try to improve on, and we're going to do that. There was no written contractual agreement for this project, which made things very difficult. We didn't have a schedule of values either of things that were defined, so we had a lot of negotiating to go back and forth between myself and Kathy with the actual contractual agreement. contractor that was doing this work because there wasn't anything well defined. But we got through it all. And then the other side of that, too, because we didn't have a contract, we didn't have a well defined warranty period on this. So there was really no way around it. So basically, the warranty is just going to default to whatever litigation in the state. So you have up to four years to bring any kind of legal

1:43:46 – 1:44:1210

litigation if there is a is a warranty issue but we don't have a written warranty from the contractor but those are things we learned we're going to correct going forward and what happened again so thank you thanks that's the end of our agenda do i hear a motion to approve adjourn so moved is there a second any further discussion all those in favor say aye aye those against like sign motion carries thank you thanks

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