Telecommunications Committee - Regular Meeting

Tuesday, April 28, 2026
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About this meeting

Government Body
Telecommunications Committee
Meeting Type
Telecommunications Committee
Location
Green, OH
Meeting Date
April 28, 2026

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315 sections (from 372 segments)

0:11 – 0:280

Good evening, and welcome to the committee meetings for Tuesday, 04/28/2026. I'd like to call these meetings to order. First item on our agenda is the approval of minutes. We have TMP 5,323, approval of the 04/14/2026, committee meeting minutes. I move to approve.

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Second. We have a motion

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and a second. Is there any discussion? Madam Clerk, please call the roll.

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Mr. Nuejebauer? Yes. Mr. Noble? Yes. Mr. DeBeatas? Yes. Mr. Brandenburg? Yes. Mr. Spate? Yes. Mr. Humphrey?

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Mr. Mager?

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Okay. Motion carries.

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Thank you, ma'am. And next up is our meeting of committees. First committee to meet this evening is the Finance Committee chaired by Mr. Humphrey.

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Thank you, Mr. President. Finance will meet this evening. All three members are present, myself, Mr. Nuejebauer, and Mr. Spate. We just have one item of legislative business, and that is the twenty twenty six first quarter income tax collection report. And I'll turn it over to our finance director in order to walk us through that.

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Wonderful. Yes. Thank you very much. As you can see, through the end of March, we were up very nominally at 0.05%. That equates to $3,872.74 So, we have collected $7,236,599, in the first quarter of twenty twenty six compared to the first quarter of twenty twenty five, where we collected $7,232,726 I want to congratulate the tax department on another, solid income tax season, which concluded, in April, on April 15.

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They, you know, were very busy in the days leading up to that date and on that date. I can tell you, I dug into the numbers a little bit before this meeting. We are up, again, nominally in individual returns, corporate estimated tax, and withholding tax. We are down in corporate net profit tax and individual estimated tax, so that But we're holding steady, and I did look through April 19, which is the last reconciled day that we have completed, and we are up 0.05%. So still up very nominally.

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I'm hoping that improves in the coming months, but we will keep a close eye on that.

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All right. Thank you for that report. Where are we in regard to the projections of where we thought we would be?

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We thought we would be up more. So I am concerned, but I can pull that. But I think we I forget what we projected, but we did project that we would be up more than what we are. I've communicated with the mayor that that is something that at the six month point in July, if we are not, you know, on pace you know, the first four months of the year are really hard. They're they are still weeding their way through the returns that came in, you know, in mid April, and we will continue to have a more a couple more withholding months under our belt.

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But if we are not going to meet what I projected in the budget, then we need to have some conversations about how we are going to self correct on that. Right.

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Okay. So you indicated that individual return filings are up, but corporate filings are down. That probably is a negative indicator because that's going to be a bigger number by far than the individual, I would suspect.

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Correct. And we are nominally up in withholding. So that's an area that we need to continue to watch trends. Our top 10 kind of are high withholders in the city to see where they're trending. But yeah, we are up in corporate estimated, but that's estimated tax, which we may have to refund. But our actual corporate net profit, where they have filed returns and they are the tax is ours, we are down.

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Okay. All right. And I just want to recognize Director Goodrich because you've been wearing two hats. Maybe you should have two seats there because you've been working overtime in the income tax department as well as in finance. So, we appreciate the fact that you've been kind of wearing those two hats, and, it's a lot of work. So just want to let you know that we appreciate all your hard work.

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Thank you.

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I'll open it up to, our committee, first of all, if you have any questions or comments. Anyone on council have any questions or comments? All right. Any old or new business to come before finance? And we will adjourn at 05:06.

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Thank you, Mr. Humphrey. Our next committee to meet this evening is Environment and Parks chaired by Mr. Nugibauer.

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Thank you, Mr. President. We do not have any items of legislation in Environment and Parks Committee this evening. Is there any old or new business to come before the committee?

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Okay. Seeing none, we will not meet. Thank you, Mr. Nujibauer. Next committee is Public Safety, chaired by Mr. DeVitas.

5:44 – 6:137

Thank you, Mr. President. Myself, Mr. Humphrey and Mr. Neugebauer are all present for Public Safety. We do have one item of legislative business on the agenda. This is on second reading. It's twenty twenty six R19, a resolution authorizing the City of Green to enter into an agreement to provide community correctional services with Orianna House Incorporated and declaring an emergency. So this piece of legislation is pretty much a housekeeping matter. We do this on an annual basis.

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Basically being a municipality, we're required to pay for worker lease programs, halfway house programs and home incarceration programs for criminal defendants charged and convicted of violating City Of Greene municipal ordinances. The Orianna House Company or Incorporated fulfills this obligation for our city to provide to people who are charged in these cases. So basically, this would be an agreement that goes retroactive to 01/01/2026 and through the end of the year, December 31, and it would fulfill those duties. We have an attached document here that's a 13 page contract. Kind of goes over the scope of all of the services that Oriental House provides to the city.

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Some of these are the work release programs, electronic monitoring, day reporting, halfway house, and there's other details in there as well. It also defines the amounts that these services cost for things like the GPS monitoring, the work release program and so on. If our Law Director was here, would ask if there's any significant changes. They are pretty nominal amounts of money overall, And I think we don't typically spend too much money within this contract. So maybe Mr. Mayer, is there any comments you would want to add to this?

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No, sir. Okay. All right. Well, Did this Director Goodrich have Yes. Anything to Sorry.

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I think actually

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The law director had asked me just to give you the numbers, which I can. Just for your reference, in 2025, we found we spent $1,169.76 on these services. In 2024, we spent $626 and in 2023, we spent $4.00 $8 and in 2022, we spent nothing. So you can see, in the last couple years, we haven't spent, any significant amount in this area. We do currently have a bill from Orianna

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for this

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year in the amount of $232 that needs to be paid once this agreement gets executed.

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Okay. Thank you for those details. So as we can see, per our Finance Director, it is a very nominal cost to the city, but we are obligated to provide these services if they're needed. So again, I see this as a very simple housecleaning matter. I'll open this up to committee if there's any other points of discussion.

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The only point I'd like to make, if I could, just for fun, is that you're seeing well over 50% increases in this fund annually. But it's $1,000 and so it's not a significant portion of our budget. So that would just be for grins. This being something we do every year, I'm okay with going second reading if the committee would be interested in doing that and clearing it off our agenda.

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I will concur with that. I agree with that.

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Okay. You want to add any other comments, Mr. Humphrey?

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No. Thank you.

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Okay. Counsel, we'll open this up for further comments. Mr. De Beats. Mr. Spade.

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Director Goodrich, is there an annual increase in this agreement from last year?

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Not that I'm aware of. I yeah, Lisa did not tell me that, so my apologies.

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Okay. Thank you.

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I can tell you, we budgeted $5,000 Clearly, we're not we have not historically hit that amount. So this is an area where hopefully there will be some givebacks, you know, at the end of the year of the unencumbered funds.

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Okay. Thank you. All Before we close discussion, any other comments from counsel? Okay. So with concurrence of the Public Safety Committee, we will bring this forward to a vote on second reading tonight. Okay. Well, that concludes all items of legislative business for the Public Safety Committee. Before we close, is there any old or new business? All right. Hearing none, at 05:11, we are adjourned.

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Thank you, Mr. DeVitus. Our next committee to meet this evening is Planning, Community, and Economic Development chaired by Mr. Noble. Thank you, Mr. President. Myself, Mr.

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DeVitus, and Mr. Humphrey are here this evening. We do have a couple of items of the legislation, so we will meet. The items are on second reading. The first of which is twenty twenty six dash r 16, a resolution approving the dedication plat for Southwood Drive Phase 2 and declaring an emergency. Okay. So this plat is for Southwood Drive Phase 2 as was indicated, and it is for a section of roadway. There will be a sister piece of this legislation and one of the other committees. Southwood Drive extension was built a couple of years ago. It goes up to the apartments on Spring Hill.

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And then Golden Goldenwood Way and Jacobs Ridge connects on the north end of the Jacobs Ridge development and where there's a newly constructed roundabout that I think probably most people don't even know exists at this point. It's I don't know if it's fully opened or whatnot, but they're connecting the backside of Jacobs Ridge to Southwood Drive. So, this dedication, is an allows us to extend Southwood Drive over to Tabs Drive Drive, completing the, connection from Arlington Road all the way over to Tabs Drive for this section. So it provides all kinds of connectivity from Tabs, the Giant Eagle area, all outside of the Butler Road corridor, through this new Southwood Drive extension. So and approving the Static Patient Plateau allows us

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move forward with the roadway construction.

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So Mr. Wethey, do you have anything else to add?

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Not really. My map doesn't go all the way to Giant Eagle and everything. It just shows the area, you want to see it. But it's roughly 800 feet. It does connect Jacobs Lane, the roundabout that's technically not open yet because Popcoat's not on. There is a second piece of legislation for construction of this. This is something that we've had on the books for a number of years, just trying to alleviate any future impacts to Bella Road and or 619. It will provide an outlet as well for the industrial park, the Akron Canton Industrial Park back there that's never been.

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Does anybody on committee have any questions on this? I do have a question. When this was conceived, did we was a traffic study done to kind of determine how much that was going to relieve traffic on Bettler? Do we have a sense of that?

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A study was not done, but we never had an outlet for Akron Canyon Industrial Park, was done during the township days. But we also recognize that Bella Road was widened a number of years ago with the center turn lane, and any more issues would probably not damage, but basically, think the decision was we don't want to continue to widen Butler Road. So, this provides a lot more relief and with potential development or you saw Spring Hills developed, Parkview Apartments has developed. It provides both the Akron Can Industrial Park and that part of town with Fortuna Drive also that was constructed with a number of ways to get out from that, The industrial park, Shops of Green, Giant Eagle, it provides people an outlet. So it's it was on the books almost fifteen years ago.

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It just took us time to get there.

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Okay. And how will the construction of this be coordinated with the two year Arlington Road corridor project?

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The only thing I'm going to say is Arlington Road will take longer. We're hoping that if Kavanaugh moves on this, engineering is asking for second reading passage for the award of the contract if you so desire. And hopefully, they can move this along a little quicker. But will it save everything? Probably not, but it will provide that relief hopefully before the end of this year. That's the goal is to have this road open before the end of this year. So year two construction season should be at least minimized a little bit. Go ahead, Paul.

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That's what I was going to say. I mean, Arlington Road is going be So the second season, Paul. That's there'll be this benefit of Southwood Drive being connected.

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Did that answer?

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Yeah. Thank you.

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Anybody else on council? Mr. Nieszabauer?

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think later in the evening, we have the legislation for the road construction. But I assume that Kavanaugh did the roundabout, correct, the contractor that you're recommending for the road? And then did Kehovnanian do a piece then coming off of tabs, and then this will connect to the existing stub, is that correct?

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That's correct.

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And this will be the construction will be boulevard style like the other part, except where you taper to the Calvanian section or

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That's correct. It's an 80 foot wide right of way. It does have a boulevard design to it with periodic openings. So those may or may not be where they have to be, but that's the goal.

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But it will taper to the regular typical where Chehovany has already built the road, correct?

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That's correct.

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Okay. And then another point. Even though this will be under construction when Arlington is, it won't impact travel because it's it will be a new road. It's not it won't shut down any other roads. But then when it opens, then it has the ability to move traffic. And I think already, right now, you can get from Butler across to 619 without using Arlington because the roundabout is not it hasn't been top coated, but it is open for traffic. And so I'm sure it will shut down when they finish construction.

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There were some barriers up there.

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There are no barriers there currently, yes, because I've used it a few times.

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All right. Okay.

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It works fine without the top coat.

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Okay. All right. Yes. Just

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a minor bump is all.

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Just don't complain. It's not a nice pavement.

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Keep going.

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We may have to go off the record here.

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If the desire of the city is to have it unused, then barricades need to go up because it's currently used.

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It's working.

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Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Anybody else? Okay. It's on second reading.

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The sister legislation will be on first reading tonight and approve second reading at the next meeting. So we'll just go ahead and take this to the third reading and vote on them at the next meeting. So I'll ask for time on this when we get to our regular scheduled council meeting. Our next item of legislation is twenty twenty six dash zero seven, an ordinance declaring a portion of improvements to a certain parcel of real property owned by Halassa Properties LLC doing business as Akron's finest mulch to be a public purpose exempting a 100% of the value of improvements from real property taxation for thirty years. K.

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So this is a TIFF, on Masson Road. It's between Greensburg and I'll say, is it between Greensburg and Wise on the west side of the road, right? On the west side of the road. So I'll just turn it over to Mr. Weathey to give give more details. Hello,

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everyone. Good evening. Yes. So this is a TIF for Akron's Finest Malt, you are correct, in where it's going to be located. This is a 2,795 square foot building. They are using this location. It's one of three, I believe, he said. And they they wanted to open this branch because they have a great need here in our region, the Green Jackson Township region. So this building will service their customer base here. It is for a thirty year TIF on the property.

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And so what we're looking at over the course of the thirty years is around $60,000 generated.

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Inflation.

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Yeah. So it's right. So say if, you know, at the county everything stays the same, right, and and those numbers don't, you know, the valuations don't decrease or increase, that's what we are looking at over the term. It is a what they are anticipating is a $550,000 investment to that property.

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$550,000

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Thank you.

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Okay. Just a little bit more description for everybody. So if you're driving south on Maslin Road, there's a parcel again that's on the west side of the road, and it's got trees along the front of it. There's a pond that's back in there. It's been sitting relatively vacant for a number of years. So there used to be a concrete block building on there. I don't know if that building is still there. They demoed one of the buildings. Okay. I think the concrete block.

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this project, it went through Planning and Zoning Commission, I'm going to say well over a year ago, at least it seems like it was about a year ago. There was a lot of conversation about it at that time, about the use there and the trucks going in and out. But ultimately, it was zoned correctly and Planning and Zoning approved the use for the property. He answered the questions on valuation. So I think that's all I have. Does anybody else on committee have any questions?

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I do. And this is for our Finance Director. When we do a TIF like this, approve a TIF like this, where does that fit in terms of the city's finances? Where do we look for it on the balance sheet? How do you look at it as the finance director in regard to everything else going on?

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We have a fund specifically dedicated for our TIF revenue and then our debt associated with the TIFs. That's Fund four zero three. So you will see the revenue come into that fund, and then, obviously, our debt service and payments to the school district go out of that fund. I can tell you that we did get our tip distribution this month for, for it's tax year, 2025, but it's paid in 2026. Our net collections were was 2,400,000 $22,448,970, and I just cut a check today to the schools for 970, thousand $795.

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That 2,000,000 was was net of that payment to the school?

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Correct. That is the payment. No, that is the net collections from the county. Deduct auditor fees and any refunds that may come. We had a parcel that was went to the BTA, so there was a large refund on this distribution for a property that was revalued. So of that 2.4, then we'd pay $9.70 to the schools. And that's the 85% of what they would have collected had these parcels

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Director Goodrich, that number is the total TIF fund. That's not the Massland Road TIF fund, right? That's our total

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TIF fund.

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Road, I can tell you, is we collected $592,675 So we have them separated by Massillon, Arlington, Town Park, Southwood, and Heritage. So the revenue accounts are by those districts. And then you'll see the debt come out of and then, you know, the general fund also has to kick in for some of the debt.

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Okay. So in terms of the total indebtedness of the city, around $45,000,000 or just over $45,000,000

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Correct.

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Is that TIF debt part of that number or in addition to

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It that

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part of that number.

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All right. That's all I had. Thank you. Anybody else? Mr. Brewer? Nobel.

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The Exhibit D, right, it says to the southern part of Massillon Road, do we have a division amongst Massillon Road, northern versus southern? Or is it all being considered one?

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For finance, it's all being considered Massillon the Massillon Road corridor.

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Okay. So the $500,000 that you mentioned, dollars 570,000, that's the entire corridor?

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Correct.

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Okay. All right. My only other question, so did we make any commitments to Akron's Finest Mulch for sidewalks, curbing, roads, anything that we're going to have to borrow for, pay for? No. Nothing at this time?

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They actually gave us an easement for a future trail if necessary on their southern border along that creek that you but as for trying to put sidewalks in the middle of this portion, we did not ask for that.

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Okay. Thank you. I appreciate

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it. And I think just a little bit more about the I'm going call it the program as a whole. On a yearly basis, the city does a sort of a relook at the program. When I say relook, it's really a report out of where the program stands. So one of the activities that between finance and economic development planning that they do is they produce a list of where we're spending our money, what where the money is coming from, how much we've spent to date and what the revenues are into the future.

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And so we keep a running tally of how much we've spent and what those future revenues are. And so up until now, I believe that we've spent more we've spent more year than over year than the revenues that have been coming in. But when you do the projections that those numbers eventually will flip because some of the ones that were spent years will come due, we'll pay those off and then there will be more money freed up. And so for those on council that are interested, that information is out there. It's available through, I guess, or economic development.

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As somebody who sat on the planning for a number of times over the last couple of years, you get to sit through those meetings and get to go through the numbers so you understand where the money is coming from and where it's going to.

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And just for your knowledge, I found this very interesting. But residential TIFFs, we collected $173,000 in September and 02/60000 last April. Those jumped to $611,000 So we saw a large jump in residential TIFs, and that is because of Jacobs Lane. And we had one parcel from Spring Hill come on board. Yeah.

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You have another question? In terms of our debt service associated just with the TIF debt and you compare that to the revenue that we're taking in with that, can you give us those two?

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Yes. I'd have to pull that. I don't have that at the ready, but I can

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pull And you'll have to do that now. Yes, you can just provide that, that would be Thank you.

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Anybody else? Mr. Nuchabauer?

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Yes. It says in the exhibit C that it's a 2,795 square foot commercial building. That's the building that's already up on-site. Yes.

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And then

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there'll be site improvements associated with that as well to reach the 550,000. Is this commercial building, is this just for this site? Or is this an investment they're doing for you said there was they had two other sites. Is that did I hear you correctly?

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Yes. They have I believe he said two or three additional sites. This site is to serve our region.

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Right. Do they have a commercial building at each location, or is this one being built for all for the whole business?

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Yes. It's my understanding. Each of their buildings have places where they can pull in their trucks, where they can wash them, they can service them.

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And that's what this building is for? Yes.

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Okay. Yep. I think, Mr. Nizhua, don't want to I'm going use the term garage, but it's not really a garage, right? It's a combination of service bays. There's little offices

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It's an in office space. There's a service space.

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It's a it's not a retail building. It's it's to it's to formulate an operation that includes trucks and backhoes and things of that nature. K. I guess I would I would I would classify it as think of the the school bus garage.

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Correct. So it's really an operations building more so than an office building. Yes. Because There's the description small

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office in there and as it went through planning, the small office would kind of bays to protect their machinery.

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Mean, lock them up and protect them.

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Just noting a 2,800 square foot office building would be a lot of office space, but it's not much office, but mostly just operations.

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Thank you.

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Okay. Anybody else? Okay. Again, is on second reading, so I will ask for time on twenty twenty six-seven at a regular committee meeting. Okay. That's all the items we have legislative items that we have on our agenda. Does anybody have any old or new business that they'd like to discuss in front of planning, community and economic development?

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Okay. Hearing none, we'll adjourn at 05:30. Thank you, Mr. Noble. Our next committee to meet is rules and personnel, which I chair. Myself, Mr. Mager, and Mr. Brandenburg are all here. We do not have any legislation this evening. Is there any old or new business to come before committee? All right. We will not meet. Moving on, we have Transportation, Connectivity and Stormwater chaired by Mr. Mager.

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Thank you, Mr. President. All members are present. Mr. Brandenburg, Mr. Noble, I. We do have lines before, so we will meet. But before we get into those items of legislation, I do wanna reward one of our frequent flyers, Ms. Pat Karletzky, who can't stick around for the public comment. She does wanna make a couple comments about data centers. So, Ms. Karleski, if you could please step to the microphone. You know the routine.

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Pat Karleski, 3878 Maybe I should have addressed this to planning and economic development. So if I'm in the wrong wheelhouse, let me know. I have been hearing a lot about these data centers and the problems that they could or may be having with capacity, the capacity of electricity, utilities, other environmentally related problems. And I have been doing research but I haven't gotten into it deeply. So I will be getting more information to you.

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Now have we heard from anybody that there is a possibility of a data center coming to our community and what is the feeling of council and the city on such a large user when we have limits in our capacity especially, you know, of course in electricity. I see my electric bill go up and it's because of of need versus capacity. And these data centers would only make it worse. And has anybody looked into it? Has there been any discussion?

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I'm happy to take the question. Thank you, Ms. Karleski, for raising the issue. It is a conversation that I've had with our Planning Director, Mr. Wiebe, for some time. I'm going to kick it to him in just a second. But the overview is that kind of the good news for Green is there aren't very many places where a data center could work in our zoning and have access to the power and electricity that it needs. And so, there's kind of a natural, if you will, prohibition against it. There just isn't many places in green it can fit. Because I can't tell you with 100% certainty that one could never come, we are discussing a moratorium.

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And Mr. Has been researching that. So we don't see the urgency because of the unlikely hood, but we don't want to leave the door open. And therefore, to kind of conclude the conversation, I'd like to kick it over to Mr. Wiede and ask where that research has landed.

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So, Mayor Juergen is right, very limited areas. We also had conversations with Aqua Ohio, our water provider. I'm not sure they could provide water that's necessary. So you have electricity and water, two biggest needs. So not saying they could never do that, but and they are looking at upgrades, but not primarily to provide data center water, but to provide residents with water primarily.

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And we are discussing the potential of a moratorium. It seems to be a very popular thing. I think it's basically, I'll use the word local government telling state government, it's time to kind of put a handle on this as long as you have that Home Rule right. So, we we are also researching the moratorium concept.

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Okay. Thank you. I am so very pleased to hear that we have been looking at this, because this is a very important issue, especially for someone like me on fixed income. And, you know, there are a lot of people like me in green on fixed income. Those utility bills go through the ceiling.

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Mr. Meager, can I make a comment? Mr. Shuffries. You've kind of hit on a big issue for our society right now, and so I've been doing a lot of reading on it.

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And one of the trends that is happening now because of local objections to locating data centers because of the concern for energy generation, which we're woefully behind in The United States. When you compare where The United States is in comparison to China, for example, the kilowatt hours that are being increased by, building going on in China greatly outweighs what's going on in The United States. One of the trends that is happening is these companies that want to build data centers are getting the idea that unless they bring, an ability to have the water that they need for the cooling and also stand up their own electricity generation that it's probably going to be a nonstarter for many communities. So I think that is probably a trend that you're going to see more of in order to avoid the kind of conflict that you're seeing in the near term. So I suspect that's going to be a trend.

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Yeah, I do hope so because I believe that they want to locate something like that. They really should make provision. We have all kinds of different types of energy. We've got solar. We've got wind.

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We've got speaking of wind, maybe I could just stand there and talk. But anyhow, you know, we need to you know, if they want it, make them build it at their own expense and and run it at their own expense. You know, we don't need any more things like that coming into the city. Well, I don't think we have anything coming into the city like that, but thank you. I am so glad we have been looking into it because oh, and then as I was gonna talk to miss miss Carr, but she's not here today.

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I went into the post office this morning to mail my ballot, you know, and there was a big hole where they did some construction work and it was I mean, I went kaboom and out. So, you know, they need to look at that. It looked like they dug around a sewer or something or

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On the roadway or

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No. In the parking lot. Yeah. Sorta surprised me. I actually woke up and drove with my eyes open.

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Thank you, Ms. Karleski.

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Thank you.

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Thank you. Anybody else on council? Any questions or comments regarding the topics, Ms. Karleski?

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Yeah, I'd

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like to

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make an observation. First of all, everybody who is using a cell phone in this room right now is using a data center. So I think what has been the issue in the industry lately is the AI data centers, which can be massive projects, in some cases up to, I think, as large as about $05,000,000,000 investment. It doesn't create a lot of jobs, uses a lot of resources, electricity, water, etcetera, doesn't generate a lot of tax benefit. As the mayor said, probably not this community is probably not ripe for those for a couple of those reasons.

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But whether it's here or in the next county, the impacts to our electricity would be similar. And so that's been an issue. But I think there's smaller data centers, which there's one in acronym, Volta, which is very it's not a mega project, but it stores the data that people need to do commerce and to use their phones and store their e mails and all those things. So I don't it's probably not practical to think that this country isn't going to have any data centers because, quite frankly, we live off our phones. But the reality is there has been some changes in the industry.

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There's certainly opposition. And one of the changes is just six months ago, I would hear from communities that a data center wanted to come in and they wanted to have a tax abatement of 75% or something. And I think with the changing landscape, I would hope that communities would push back and not give massive tax breaks for this investment because potentially it could generate millions of dollars for a city if we don't abate the taxes. But they typically require or expect you to abate about 75% of the taxes. So I think that's one shift that will be good for our communities is just that assumption that they're not going to get tax abatements.

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And then but the other point is I think some data centers are good. I think the mega ones probably aren't right for this community and a lot of communities. But the smaller ones, I'm not sure you'd notice difference between a data center and a Walmart in terms of size and impact. So just wanted to point that out, that they're not all these big monsters.

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Thank you. Mr. Nuszumab, anyone else on council have any comments? Okay. All right.

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We'll get back on topic now with the legislation before us, the first being on third reading, and that is 2026 R11, a resolution awarding a contract to the ArrowMark Company LLC for the 2026 paving marking project and declared an emergency. So as this legislation's name, this is in regards to a citywide pavement marking program. There was two bids that were submitted on this, the lowest and best being the ArrowMark Company LLC in the amount of $210,606.73 on the base bid and $13,592.3 on alternative one. It's worth noting that the engineers' estimate for this project was $267,000 so this came in well below the engineers' estimate. Based on the 10% contingency, the total amount being requested from administration for this project is $246,618.93 Mr.

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Pick, anything you'd like to add to this?

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We had some discussion last week about the award and based on the base bid. And, I went back and looked at our bidding platform is digital now, and it automatically when it post the results, which are instant when we open bids, so all the bidders see them, it bases it on the base bid, not plus whatever alternates we might be adding. So kind of by default, have to go by who's lowest on the base bid.

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No, I appreciate that. And I guess I could have some thoughts since our last meeting. I'm just curious, I mean, I'm assuming that's our default platform, right? It's something that could be Has administration given any thought that if the base price difference between that and the second bid or the third bid or whatever, the alternate bid is within a certain percentage, it can recalculate that? Or is that just not something that's feasible?

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We'll have to find out if the platform that we use is capable of doing that.

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I mean, I guess we always have the alternative. If the base bid is the lowest and the the alternative is so high, we decide not to do the alternate. Right. But typically, trying to go back and do the alternate post hoc is typically a lot more expensive.

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So I just I asked the administration. I haven't talked to be on council, but just maybe a way to look into that to see if there's some kind of spread that we can look at or percentage difference between the base bid and the alternate bids that there could be some kind of recalculation or regrading.

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I would imagine we definitely had to be careful that everybody was aware that was our option, that we could pick and choose how we wanted. As I said, even before the digital platform, our process always involved the language said, we're awarding based on the base bid and then we'll if we choose that contractor's alternates, we would add them.

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I'm not saying like anybody is trying to be nefarious in here and how they do the base bid versus alternate bid, it is good to have that extra set Yes. Of

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There's certainly there wouldn't be I get what you're saying, but I don't think there's any assertion that it'd be nefarious. I just think it adds a little bit of uncertainty. At the time of opening the bids, contractors don't really know who's going to get the job. I don't know that that matters. Again, it's something we probably need to research.

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Yeah, I'd be curious. I just gave it a lot of thought. So, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with this. I mean, it is so close, but I'm just curious if somebody has Yeah. I never I've been on City Council now for six years. I've never seen alternate bids and base bids this close. So maybe it's not really that big of an issue, but this raised a question in my mind that I gave about two weeks of thought for, so

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When you look at the differential though, I think it's less than 1% when you look at the total Yeah. You know, one versus the other. So

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No, I agree. Closer to half. Okay. Open up to members of the committee on this piece. Legislation? Mr. Brandenburg? No question. Thank you.

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Mr. Noble? Just to follow-up on that, I mean, it's like less than $1,000 over a $225,000 contract. I would assume that when we set the criteria that we would we would just tell them that's like we are going to award the alternate bids if they are underneath our our estimated value. I mean, that's the assumption. Right? I think that's the assumption.

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Because we could have multiple orders.

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Right.

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Right? We'd wanna

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Right.

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Well, okay. So in the case of and so at some point, you could put them in order or something and and come up with something to overcome that. You just have to write it up. Yeah. Right? That you'd have to write it up. I mean, it's like we're going to award this or this or this based on based on a total budget.

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I would think that would clear it up and make it defensible.

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So anyway, okay. It was very, very close, right? So I don't have anything else.

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Thank you, Mr. Noble. I'll move to counsel as a whole, Mr. Neuschebauer.

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Yes. I mean the bids have been great in terms of where you want to be. This is a great example. They're only $300 off on $200,000 worth of work. I agree with Mr. Noble, though. I would rather the criteria be that it will be awarded based on the alternative selected in addition to the base bid. So you have that flexibility without having an ambiguity. I think the thing I'm trying to get away from is a contractor giving a low base bid, but then jacking his price up on the alternates knowing that you typically take the alternates. So I don't want them playing a game. I would rather us say that we have the right to accept bids based on any number of alternates that are included.

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Seems logical.

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But the bids have been good, and that speaks to your staff putting out good information for the bidders to use.

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Well, helps that programs like this are year in and year out, so you kind of have a pretty good feel for the market.

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And you, I guess, I think Mr. Miederich said it more distinctly than I did. I just don't think anybody's gaming it. I this the first time I've seen it this close. I don't think they're gaming it here, but I do like to have that protection on the alternates, if we can. But, again, I could be wrong. So I'd love to get your thoughts on that. Doesn't be by next meeting, but just in the future. Yeah. I'd love to talk about that. Anybody else on council? Okay. This is on third reading. Again, these bids are great. I'm not trying to say that these are not.

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They're well below the engineer's estimate. This being on third reading, so, mister president, the appropriate time, I'll make the, the motion on twenty twenty six r eleven. Next up is twenty twenty six r twelve. This is a resolution awarding a contract to Barbra Kiss Construction Co Inc. For the 2026 Reservicing Project and declaring emergency.

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We talked about this at length at the last meeting. You know, this is a project that received three bids. The original engineer's estimate for this project was $841,000. All three bids came under the engineer's estimate, the lowest and best bid being Barbecues Construction Company, Inc, with a base bid of $686,754.75 The alternate was also the lowest first alternate was also lowest at $244,023 And then the third alternate was also the lowest at $104,280 As I stated, this was the lowest and best bid and then incorporating the 10% contingency, which we're asking to reduce here to 5% of the total project. The total amount being asked for is $1,035,057.75 So again, this is a project that's going to be miscellaneous resurfacing across the city.

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I know Mr. Picano is appropriate to talk about now or if you want to talk about the end during new or old business, but you did provide us with a map of all the roadway conditions in the city. In particular, this one is going to be concentrating on definitely some failed roads or one of the lowest graded roads in the city. So I don't know if you want to talk about this now or maybe just kick it till the end if you want to have anything you want say about what's been handed out here.

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Yeah. I don't know if I'd have a whole lot to add to that. Mean, as you pointed out, I mean, it's we're typically choosing roads that are in the poorest conditions. It's not much different than usual.

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Yes. Okay. With that, I'll open up to, committee. Any questions or comments, Mr. Granbury? Not on the bidding, no. Okay. Mr. Noble? No. Okay. Counsel as a whole, any questions or comments on 2026 R12? Mr. Meeger. Mr. Humphrey?

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Yes. So I appreciate, Mr. Pickett providing this information because we had discussed it at our last meeting, and I told him before the meeting that I was going to have to study this. And I just encourage everybody on council to study this, study the conditions of the roads as evidenced by the objective scoring that's done, but also pay particular attention to, what the expected condition of the roads would be based upon a given spending level. And what I mean by that is if the city commits to X amount of dollars, what would we be able to expect over the next measurement period of time the conditions of our roads to be?

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And I think it's an important thing that we need to think about as counsel because over time, we've done some wonderful projects in terms of Massillon Road and the other roundabouts, and I think that's going to set up our community for the long term to have, good traffic flow, to be able to have increased population, to have increased traffic on our roads to be able to deal with that. And it's beautiful. It's wonderful. And I think we look at it and say it's working the way we would hope it to work. But at the same time, we need to make sure that the residents who are living in neighborhoods, as they pull out and see these beautiful projects that we're doing, the natural question that they have is, Okay, but what does this mean for the condition of my road?

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And so I know that every we're all on the same team here. We're all working toward the same thing. And we just need to be thinking about, we're not going to be able to do anything probably additionally this year in terms of the road project that's laid out. But certainly, as we go into the next budget cycle, we really need to have some clear thinking about, are we spending enough on roads? And if not, how are we going to spend the right amount on roads?

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And because it's a zero sum game in terms of the amount of revenue that we're taking in, where are cuts going to need to be made so that we can make that a priority if indeed all of counsel believes that it is a priority? So it's just information that we ought all to be thinking about and planning ahead for and requesting while recognizing that we have some natural, constraints on us with the amount of revenue that we're taking in, the amount of debt that we have, the projects that we're already committed to. And somehow, we have to make this whole thing work for everyone. And so, that's all I wanted to say on that. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Humphrey.

51:124

Mr. Neugebauer?

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If I could add on what Councilman Humphrey said that just wanted to point out that there's the monies come from different places, Mr. Humphrey. So it's not so for example, today, we're looking at a $13,500,000 project on Arlington Road. And most of those monies are from federal sources and grants. And it's not like we made a decision to spend $13,500,000 on Arlington as opposed to spending $13,500,000 on street paving because those federal dollars aren't available for street resurfacing.

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So I just need us to be aware that they're a different funding source And it's not choosing one over the other. Oftentimes, it's setting up your major roads for those federal dollars. And then it's just really committing resources on the local level for the residential streets. So I just wanted to

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And provide that do appreciate that the fact that we have federal funding. For example, the new roundabout that's going to go in on South Arlington Road that we're doing in conjunction with Jackson. There's a lot of federal money wrapped up in that. The reason that the Massillon Road corridor was begun in the first place was because of the safety funding that we received from the federal government. But when we look at the amount of federal funding that we're getting for the Arlington Road project, Director Goodrich, how much debt are we taking on, as a result of the Arlington Road project, the two season project that we're discussing?

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About $3,900,000

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Okay. So, you know, it's still a big number that we're taking on. When you think about, as a city, we're at $45,000,000 If we take on another $3,400,000 we have to service that debt. We've got the TIF revenue. We have to service that debt.

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You look at all of these things. And before long, with increasing prices and not as many employers in the city as perhaps we would like because of just general economic conditions, you kind of get crosswise with where you would want to be in terms of your debt and your budget, your revenue, your collections and all of that. So we understand, we're having other revenue sources, it kind of reminds me back when my kids were young and my father-in-law would come to me and say, Hey, we're going to all go on vacation, and I'm going to fund it, and I'm going to fund 70% of it. And that was wonderful because I was going to go on a vacation that I probably wasn't going to be able to fund on my own, but the 30% still hurts. So my point is that the debt that we take on for these projects, we still have to take into consideration how it affects the entire picture.

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No, I appreciate it. If we can keep on topic of the actual piece of legislation, we can get to this as part of a bigger global discussion. But Mr. Nobuchad, anything on

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specific Well, I to build on what was saying here. But just to build on what Mr. Nuegebauer indicated here, Mr. Humphrey, is the whole notion of separate pots. And so I don't think there's any doubt that we're taking on debt to do Arlington Road, which we did for Massillon Road as well.

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However, the debt we're taking on from for Arlington Road, so the city called the city share, right, is still it's being tabbed to be paid back out of the TIF revenues, right? So that local so that local share, even though it's being we're right now, it's not balanced. And so the general fund is contributing it to it. Those TIF revenues will ultimately pay off those bonds. And so that thing is held separately and in no way case can we take any of those monies, whether the TIF monies or the federal dollars and use for the local roadway resurfacing.

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And so there is the notion of debt, but we have a mechanism that is through the TIF revenue to pay off that debt that's associated with those local or with those, call it, federally granted fund projects for Arlington and whatever. So it's a very complex system, I think, And because we're having a conversation here is because it drives interest to what Mr. Humphrey says about paving streets versus doing roadways. And so we've been very mindful, I think over time of trying to understand how to bring different sources of revenue in. So we don't have to take the money that we might be spending on resurfacing people's streets and use it for these other projects.

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That's what the TIFF that's what makes the program so beneficial to us. So anyway.

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So I allowed it to go on a lot, but I'm going give Mr. Ejibauer one last final comment. I think you had something you want to say about this. This just for

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fun. Mr. Humphrey, last time you were on counsel, you did a lot of refinancing. And

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think I've talked about this a number of people. You need to bring back some of those refinancing items because If

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we can get a chair of the Federal Reserve that helps me with that with But lower interest rates, I'd be all for

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it's an issue. And I think if we get back to those rates of interest, then you'll see a positive cash flow from all your TIF accounts and things you'll have a lot more money to do those things. So there's a number of factors here, including the federal rate right now.

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So I guess moving away from this sidebar, does anybody have any last comments on twenty twenty six r twelve? Okay. Well, I appreciate the debate, and, I just wanna thank, Paul Pick and his team for everything they prepared. I think this was ancillary to discussion, but I think it's an important topic as part of this piece of legislation. And I definitely think the administration taking this to heart and looking at it can see, hey, what we got to do to increase our spending, if possible, on future payment projects.

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Because historically, Green has always been people have touted our roads and our public service has been a thing. Unfortunately, I'm seeing a a detriment to the roads over over the last couple of years, probably like five five or six years. So whatever we could do to kind of bring that back to the forefront, I think people would really appreciate, at least what I'm hearing. And and obviously, what happened at our last meeting, it's a big concern from certain areas. So thank you for doing this.

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I think we all agree that paving should be in the forefront, but it's only so much in that pot of money, and we're trying to move stuff around. So with administration, hopefully, their capital improvement project, we can kinda allocate a little bit more money towards street paving. So thank you for this, mister mister Pickett and administration. Okay. So this being on third reading, I'll make the appropriate motion for 2026DashR12. Next up is 2026DashR17. This is on second reading.

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Oops. Excuse me. Sorry.

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17, a resolution awarding a contract to Extreme Elements LLC for Arlington Road Corridor Improvements Project, sum fifteen dash three point five five and required emergency. So this project was something we're not to bid. The engineers estimate on this particular project was $13,886,050.67 We actually received three, another bunch of good bids here, well under or actually two of which were or actually only one of which is under engineers estimate. And that was from Extreme Elements LLC. Their bid was the lowest and best at $13,000,543 I'm sorry, 543,261.7.

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This one, we are going to apply the we're not putting a contingency on this one, Mr. Pickett.

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I don't know.

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don't see it in the Yeah.

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I'll have to look. I'm not sure why that would be.

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Okay. Yeah, I didn't see it in here. But anyways, this is on second reading. If you want check on it, Mr. Pickett.

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Disability exists though that since we're not appropriating money, what we have appropriated is enough to include that 10%.

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So I'll check on that.

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Thank you. Yes. So Extreme Elements being the lowest and best, it is under the engineers estimate. Total being asked for approval is accepting this bid as $13,543,261.7 So with that, I'll open up to, committee of any questions or comments regarding this piece of legislation.

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Couple of questions. Mr. Bramford? So looking at the CIP, right, so we had $18,000,000 for this project. So is and it said 16,500,000 for construction. Are there other pieces yet to be done or

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there There is more one other big piece, and that's the construction administration itself, which is probably in the order of 1,000,000 So it could be that we have contingency money. We'll have to check that.

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Okay. So, there will be additional costs over Yes. The construction

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Okay. All right.

1:00:3912

Is this the appropriate time to talk about detours and things like that? Or is that a later date?

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Not a popular subject. So, there will be, there's a period of time in the project when Butler Road is closed. The roundabout construction in Arlington there will require that. That's that's really the the detour. Most of the corridor itself, the North South Arlington Road, we're able to as with most widening, we're widening it to one side and building temporary pavement and moving the other side and so forth. So, only closure will be because of the roundabout at Butler.

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Okay. I was wondering because I was thinking about the two that we had here on South Massillon and how they went down to three lanes. But I didn't think right then it was five lanes where Arlington is two now. Yeah. So two on one side, two on the other. I mean, it's

1:01:34 – 1:02:0610

lot I guess I did sort of lie there. The existing neighborhood on the West Side of Arlington Road isn't cut off, but Southwood Drive will be closed at Arlington for that roundabout construction and that pushes everybody to Knollwood, is the Northern Street in that neighborhood. Okay. Makes sense. And then there will be a period of time also where traffic on the East Side, a new development side, that piece of south will be closed for a while too. But you have Fortuna Drive that gives you an alternative.

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Right. It might be more appropriate for the next piece, but do you foresee I know we're trying to approve the next one, Southwood Drive extension on second. Will that be an effective detour? Like, will it be completed way before this Arlington project?

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Well, Southwood Drive would be constructed this year. So, likely, that means it provides an option for the second season of the project where you'd be able to go all the way through there to Tabs Drive.

1:02:3512

Okay. But You mentioned second season. So is Arlington expected to be this year and next year? Yes. All the way through next year?

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Right. Sorry.

1:02:4610

That's I guess, that's disappointing.

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I just assumed everybody I mean, most of our big corridor projects like that go over multiple years, so Yes.

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I just didn't see it written anywhere in the legislation, so I was curious how long.

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And thankfully, I would say it's a safe statement to make that this is the last large corridor project we'll need to do for the foreseeable future given our growth pattern and everything. So that's a positive.

1:03:1412

Okay. Agree. Agree. All right. Last question is a finance related question. So back to the TIF and the bonds.

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the CIP, right, it says we're to issue $5,500,000 of bonds, work to 4,300,000 It shows in the budget column $8,600,000 but I know that includes Southwood as well. Have those bonds already been approved by counsel or will they be approved?

1:03:36 – 1:04:202

No. We had to obviously wait until these projects were bid, to know where the numbers landed. You know, with what we are anticipating to get from other funding sources for Arlington Road, we're going to have to finance about $3,900,000 for that project. Southwood Phase II, we're going to have to finance about $1,450,000 And then we had a bond anticipation note that we took out last year for Southwood Phase 1, which comes due in September. So then that is going to be need to be rolled into this bond issuance.

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So we're looking at about $7,000,000 total. And then at the same time, we will be looking at what is currently callable that we can potentially refund some of our other bonds for lower interest rates, if that's possible. I have a meeting next week with our municipal advisor to get this underway, but counsel will see legislation for this bond issuance this summer?

1:04:48 – 1:05:0412

It will be over the summer? Okay. My curiosity, right, if we hadn't issued it yet was, are we cart before the horse? We don't have the money yet, but we're going to start the project. Is that of any concern at all?

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Mean, we have, you know, cash. And, you know, this is all timed in, you know, for us to get the cash this summer as the project is getting underway.

1:05:1712

Okay. So you could use the general fund to cover it in the meantime until the issuance takes place? Yes. Thank you. I appreciate it. That's all

1:05:274

the questions I have. Okay. Mr. Noble? Okay. Counsel, anything on topic? Mr. Hujerak?

1:05:35 – 1:05:536

Yes, this contractor. Thanks for that, Mr. Chairman. Extreme elements. I'm not really familiar with them and been in the business a long time. Is this a former company that's now with a new name or heavy highway? There's not a lot of them, right?

1:05:53 – 1:06:2110

I don't know that. And I do know that they seem to have the capability for this project, although not a lot of history in this type of project. Two of their management people, one estimator and one field supervisor are individuals that worked for a previous contractor for us. So, we're familiar with those people and I'm assuming, you know, the management of the company will be similar to the other. But, we've not had anything bad, let's put it that way.

1:06:21 – 1:06:466

Right. So just for counsel's benefit and maybe anybody else who's listening, after we get the apparent low bidder, the engineering department does do an analysis of the low bidder to see. And it's not often, but occasionally, we have not gone with the lowest bidder. So maybe just give a brief summary of that, just the process you use to check the contract. Yeah.

1:06:46 – 1:06:5910

involves finding out other agencies they've worked for and done similar projects and what kind of good and bad things came of it. And we haven't uncovered anything negative.

1:07:0210

Typical process we follow.

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Yes. Typically, don't run into those issues. But we have I think the one that I recall is the restrooms at East Liberty. Think we had a contractor who had never built a building before proposing to build a restroom facility. And so we had to go with number two. But you do, do that analysis.

1:07:236

Okay. Thank you.

1:07:24 – 1:07:394

Thank you, Shneur Gjar. That's good to have some expertise in that area. We I think I have identified another contractor that we did give a bid to that didn't do very good work. So I know the administration has been made aware of that for future reference, but that's a good question. Anybody else on counsel?

1:07:40 – 1:08:113

I Sheriff just want to understand from our finance director. So as a result of this project, Southwood, the other bonds that will be refunded and rolled in, the numbers that I was trying to write down as you were saying them, looks like that will take us to a total debt of $52,300,000 or so as a city? And what is our anticipated revenue collection this year from all sources?

1:08:122

I can pull that. I don't know that off the top of my head.

1:08:143

It's under the amount of that debt, though, right?

1:08:172

It is, yes.

1:08:18 – 1:08:543

Okay. So I know that some of this may seem unrelated in some ways, but all of it's related to the extent that we have to look at the big picture. This is a big number. And so we need to be thinking about, as counsel, when we're at a position as a city where we have more debt than the revenue that we're collecting, not saying that that's necessarily a bad thing depending on the future revenue from the TIFFs and everything else, but we just need to understand where this puts us as a city. So that's the only thing I want to do.

1:08:54 – 1:09:334

Thank you, Mr. Humphrey. Anybody else on counsel? Okay. Well, this this is being on second reading, mister Pickett. I know that if you don't mind checking on the contingencies, I think it's the only real issue that I have outstanding. I don't think there's any other outstanding questions from from council. So seeing this is on second reading, mister president, I'll be asking for time on 2026 dash r '17. Next steps on first reading, but because administration is asking for second reading passage, we're gonna discuss it now. And that is 2026 Dash r '20, a resolution awarding a contract to Kavanaugh Building Corporation for the Southwood Drive Phase two and declaring an emergency.

1:09:34 – 1:10:114

So as been previously mentioned in planning, this is a companion piece to the Southwood extension project. This particular project, had an estimate amount from the engineer's office of one point I'm sorry, dollars 1,729,507.76. Again, a nice showing on the bids. There was four bids submitted, all of which were under the engineer's estimate. The lowest and best bid was coming from Cavanaugh Building Corporation with the best base bid of $1,227,596 Mr. Pigg, I just want to note this is another one that doesn't have any contingency built into the legislation. So if you wouldn't mind checking on that for next time as well.

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Will do.

1:10:144

Yeah, this was discussed as a completed piece in planning. Is there anything from the committee regarding 2026 R20?

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Just one question, Mr. Mager. I just like to understand the difference between the engineers' estimate and the bids, about $400,000 here. Is the city doing any of the work on this project? Or is it is there any reason you believe it came in so much lower?

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That's always a mystery to us, basically. I assume it has to do with the market in the area at the time, how much work the contractors have or don't have. Yeah, it's it would be nice to know, but I don't know how you find that out.

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Okay. I appreciate it. I was just curious if we were doing some of the work and that offset the cost or if there was some other element. Appreciate that.

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Mr. Noble? Nothing. Counsel as a whole, any questions, comments? Okay. This being on first reading, the second reading

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passage, Mr. Oh, just real quick. Paul, sometimes they put contingencies in the bid contract, and so you don't have to add them separately. Is it possible with these roadway projects, they're built into the project?

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No. When we do that, we have a line we call like discretionary allowance and put it in there, but we don't

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You don't believe on either of these? Okay. So you'll have to check into the contingency.

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Also, I'd have to go back and verify this. I But feel like on the federally funded ones, we don't have that option.

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Paul, I mean, I have something that Cioca gave me that says it was a 10% contingency for Arlington Road and Southwood phase two. So I think we can definitely check into

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Whether that needs to be Yeah. In the legislation.

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Yeah. I just wanna make sure there has been legislation that we're approving or if it's already built into that number, we don't talk I about just wanna know the difference there.

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So thank you very much.

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Anything else, mister Dubois? No. That was it. Thank you. Anybody else on council?

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Okay. This being on first reading and second reading passage, I'm gonna be asking for time, mister president, on twenty twenty six r twenty. Any other old or new items we come before this committee? Mr. Mayor? Yes, sir.

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I want to address briefly since Councilman Brandenburg brought it up, the question of detours and timing and all that. And of course, it's early in the game and we don't have the specifics for timing just yet. The contract needs to be awarded. But just want counsel to know that we're on the communications piece. We're laying out a plan, developing that right now.

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Our scheduling early June meeting for businesses and homeowners along the corridor to inform them of project timing, expectations, detour information. And we're having we're working on a separate meeting for the residents of Spring Hill because their HOA would like that. And we want to kind of meet people where they're at and address that issue. So we're going to be meeting with them later in May and we'll invite Councilman their Board Councilman, Mr. Humphrey to that as well at this time to make sure he's there.

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So I just want you to know those pieces are in place. The other thing I wanted to announce is that you might recall last fall, the city submitted with council's approval an application for a grant to build a sidewalk on Steese Road. And we have now received official word from the AMATS Policy Committee that a grant in the amount of $1,000,000 has been awarded for that project. It is into the future. So what they've told us is that it's for fiscal year 2032.

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But there may be an opportunity that that gets awarded earlier based on circumstances that AMATs faces through federal funding and not that we control. The good news in all of that is that it gives us additional time to seek additional funding. And we know that there are options out there. So that's a good start for that project, and we're excited to share that news. So I wanted counsel to know that and appreciate your support of the project.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Any other items of new or old business come before this committee?

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Hearing none, we'll adjourn at 06:15. Thank you, Mr. Meagher. Our final committee to meet this evening is Intergovernmental and Utilities, chaired by Mr. Brandenburg. Thank you, Mr. President. Mr. Noble, Mr.

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Meager and I are all present. We have no items in the legislation to discuss. Any items of old or new business? Hearing none, we

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will not meet. Thank you, Mr. Brandenburg. Although it is not on the agenda, it is the last student municipal representative report. If you ladies wouldn't mind, you can tell us what's happening in the schools, please.

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Competition, and they received all ones, which to the best of my knowledge is very good. And then today, there's a boys lacrosse game, baseball, and softball. And then I think they're all home games. I'm not entirely sure. I know boys lacrosse is.

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And then there's a track meet on Thursday or what was the track meet on Thursday? But as for this week, there's talent show on Friday hosted on hosted by Key Club, and this is put on as a food drive for blessings in a backpack at their summer pantry. AP testing starts on Monday, so the kids in AP's classes will be busy with AP exams. Prom is May 16. Senior award ceremony is May 18, and then senior payback day and the last day for seniors is May 19.

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And then the following day on May 20 is the club trip to Cedar Point for Key Club and Girls of Green just as a recognition for the members that are involved in that. So it's a busy month because as of yesterday, there's one month until graduation, which is on May 27. And that's all I have to share with you today.

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Awesome. Well, thank you very much. And we're looking forward to the Student Municipal Representative Senior Recognition Ceremony starting at 07:00 this evening. So okay. Well, that concludes our meeting items for this evening, and we will adjourn. We'll see everybody back at 07:00.

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