Planning and Economic Development Committee - Regular Meeting

All right. Good evening, all. I appreciate your patience. We are here on Thursday, 03/19/2026 for matters scheduled before the Board of Zoning Appeals for the City of Green. We got a couple of matters on our agenda this evening. But before we begin, I would ask if you please rise and say the Pledge of Allegiance with me. Pledge of allegiance to the flag of The United States Of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Please proceed. All roll, please.

Mr. Ankarvati? Here. Mr. Spate?

Here.

Ms. Newberg? Here. Mr. Awadala? Absent. Mr. Schultz?

Here.

Ms. Amelia Bishop? Here. Ms. Audrey Bishop? Here.

All right, everyone.

Pazesh Kapoor? Here.

Excellent. All right. Thank you. A couple of matters on the agenda. We'll get in and address those initially, and then we'll handle, minutes and some other business matters that we would need to attend to.

The first one that we have scheduled this evening is BZA twenty twenty six-four, Devin Jackson at 592 Amberleigh Drive in Greene here in the City Of Greene, where the appellant, Mr. Jackson, at that address is requesting a five foot right setback variance to permit a residential addition to be constructed, which would leave five feet on the right side setback. There is a 10 foot setback requirement and so this does not comply with Green Codified Ordinance Table 157.101-one of the residential site development standards. Specifically stated, the variance request is a five foot right side setback variance to permit a residential addition to be constructed, which would leave a five foot side setback where 10 foot is required. And who is here on that matter?

All right, sir, we'd welcome you forward. Got a podium there with a mic. Got a handheld mic. Both are active. If you have documents that you'd like to share, you can place those on right on top of that, that pink x there, if you will, and they'll be grabbed by the overhead camera. But we also have your materials that you submitted, so thank you very much. Let's start this way. What's your name, sir?

Devin Jackson.

Okay, Mr. Jackson, you raise your right hand for me. You swear or affirm and tell the truth and hold and nothing but the truth in this matter before the Board.

Yes, sir.

Okay. Welcome. What we look for is just the nature of the project.

You're requesting a variance because of the side setback and the addition. We understand it's a garage.

Correct. Just what the hardship is, how you're unable to comply with the code or what you're looking to do with the project.

Yeah, absolutely. So the biggest hardship we currently have is we do have a side entry garage that was actually framed improperly. So the openings for the garage are only like seven and a half feet wide. And, typically, they're framed at eight, so it's really hard to park vehicles in there. And I'll go ahead and show this form. I guess this is just like a good aerial view. Mhmm. So there's the existing garage doors. Like I said, they're they're framed improperly. We looked at possibly doing that.

It would require a bit bit of work. So we were wanting to just do another additional garage and it would be a lot easier as well to pull straight in. And then I do have I talked to our neighbor that is on the right abutting side and I gave them the forms and paperwork that I sent in to you for to review. And they took a look at it and I asked if they wouldn't mind signing excuse me. Here we go.

You're good.

Once they took a look at it, was like, hey, I would help probably if you guys say that you're fine with it. So they verbally said that they're okay with it and I just asked if they wouldn't mind signing off on that as well. So I brought that in.

Well, thank you. Thank you. Yeah. That's an original document. Right? I don't see that in our paperwork at all, right?

Correct. Yep. They just signed this the other night and

got it back to me.

When we're done, I'm just going to ask you to bring that up to us so we can make it part of our record here Okay. As Sure. But that's nice. And the neighbor that you're indicating or talking about here is the one that's impacted by the variance request. Right? It's out

of line. Yep. They are the ones on lot so we are located on Lot 58. Mhmm. And they are located here on Lot 86, Jason and

Jason to you.

Yep. So they're there, and there's the proposed location. The garage with the property line down the middle there.

So there's a five foot variance request. And the decision on the width of the garage that ultimately leaves you with five feet that you need to approach us for, What factors went into deciding how wide that garage would be?

Yeah. So in order to make it a two car garage with a man door on the front, This would be like the front elevation in order to get a two car with garage door and the man door. It needs to go over the the five foot mark.

Questions from the Board? A couple. First of all, the perspective aerial shot was nicely done. Explains a lot real fast for everyone, okay? That there, very Thank

you.

Question though, the overall length, 26 foot, I guess 18 foot is the normal garage for a double door, I believe, is 16 foot. So there's two foot extra width there.

Yeah, and the garage door itself. We wanted to do an 18 foot wide garage door if possible.

Okay. Thank you. Mhmm.

Yep. And then one other kind of hardship and why we wanted to make the garage width 26 feet. There is our existing gas fireplace, and we're planning to hopefully keep that there and run the flue up through the roof of the new garage. And, obviously, that bumps out a few feet. So in order to pull a vehicle straight in to avoid that, that's why we wanted to shift the the garage out to the 26 feet wide.

Thank you. Additional questions from the board? Who will be doing the work?

One day garage, out of Hubbard, Ohio, I believe.

And they're matching what you have there on the on the residence to begin with?

Yes. Yep. And whenever I talked to our HOA, Kings Ridge, they, you know, asked those questions and I explained that to them. I have it in writing on one of my forms by saying that we're matching, you know, siding color, shingle color, building construction, building type. It will be wood frame with foundation walls.

That's nice. Questions from the Board? Or just the Anyone here on the matter have questions? No. How about our representatives? Do you guys have any questions? No, not on this one? Nope. Anything at all from

the city? You guys all right?

Okay. Would certainly entertain additional questions from the Board or would entertain a motion at this juncture.

I propose to grant a five foot right side setback variance to permit a residential addition to be constructed, which would have a five foot side setback where 10 foot is required. Thank you, Mr. Spade. There's been

a motion made to approve the variance as requested. Is there a second to that motion?

Second.

Thank you, Ms. Newberg. And there's been a motion made to approve. That motion has been seconded. You call roll on the motion to approve, please.

Mr. Spate?

Yes.

Ms. Newberg? Yes. Mr. Uncarvati?

Yes.

Mr. Schultz?

Yes. Okay. And that will pass four-zero. All right. Thank you very much. I will take that extra document from you, make it Yes. Part of our

you for your time. Also, just a quick shout out to your zoning department, Tom. I had a couple of e mails with Renee. Were They just really good to work with and helpful.

So appreciate that. Thank you. Yeah. That's nice to hear. Hold that along.

Thank you very much. Good luck with your project. Thank you. Appreciate it. Our next one on the agenda this evening is BZA twenty twenty six-five, Four Points Architectural, 3929 South Main Street, Greene, Ohio.

Now we'll read it into the record for starters. The appellant Jim Frisutto of Four Points Architectural at 2850 South Arlington Road, Suite 200 in Akron, is requesting the following for a new drive being constructed on Magua Drive at South Main Street. The Pacific requested an 18 foot variance on the east side of the main drive, a 27 foot variance at the curve of the drive and a 24 foot variance at the north side of the drive, the entryexit, where 50 is required. So this is not compliant with Green Conified Ordinance Chapter 157, specifically 157.1347 before of location and setback requirements and specifically stated for the record an 18 foot setback variance on the east side of the drive, a 27 setback 27 foot setback variance on the curve of the drive and a 24 foot setback variance on the north side of the drive. That's for a new driveway being constructed off Magua Drive at South Main Street where 50 feet is required.

Accompanying our materials as well, I think you've all had a chance to review, there had been a determination made by the Planning and Zoning Commission. And there has also then been subsequently with regard to this project an appeal of the determination that will land before us, thus being the Board of Zoning Appeals. That is scheduled right now to appear before the Green Board of Zoning Appeals at the next meeting, which is scheduled for 04/16/2026. We've been provided, I guess, the choice, if you will, to hear this particular application for variance now at this point or to table it and hear everything at the April 16 meeting. And I guess I would put that out there for discussion with the Board or if the Board if someone would just have feeling on which way to go and would put forth a motion on whether to table it or to proceed, we could then discuss and see whether we wish to address it tonight.

Any thoughts or motions?

Can it be tabled after presentation? It seems like they're ready to present or does

the table have to It does. Welcome and thanks. We'll see you in a month. And I agree. And it was nice for the city to afford us that opportunity. I think it's an independent decision, right? It's an independent consideration. We could go ahead and decide one way or the other independently on the variance request, as I've read into the record. And ultimately, we'll see what happens down the road with regard to the second matter. As you pointed out, that's coming to us. They're really not directly impacting this at all. It's a separate own considerations, separate own set of presentations. And so I think we could go ahead if the Board is willing to. So I would float a motion that we go ahead and proceed as scheduled with BCA twenty twenty six-five. And I would ask for a second of that motion if there is one.

I second that. Mr. Spate, thank you, sir. Then if you would call roll on a motion to go ahead and proceed.

Mr. Encaravati? Yes. Mr. Spate?

Yes.

Ms. Newberg? Yes. Mr. Schultz?

Yes. Okay. And so we are in agreement on that. And so let's go ahead and address this, understanding the other matter is a separate and different consideration completely for us. But what I have here and what has been read into the record on BZA 2026 is the four points agricultural architectural application for these setback variances for the drive entrance. Who is here on that matter? Okay. We're going to welcome you forward. And likewise, There. And either the mic, if you wander, or at the podium with the gooseneck mic, either one. So if you'd raise your right hand for me, sir. Do you swear or affirm to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth in this matter before the board? I do. If I could get your name, please.

Sure. Jim Persudo.

Alrighty. And you are with Four Points Architectural. Right?

I'm the project architect for this.

Thank you, sir. Sure.

I can just do a kind of a brief overview of the full project. I'm not gonna go into too much detail.

Alright.

This was the existing site. For the most part, nothing's been built on it except the original drive in kind of stand here at the corner of Magua And South Main. As part of this project, that existing building, and there's a shed behind it as well, will be removed as part of the initial phase of this project to make way for for phase one, which will be the storage buildings that went before planning and zoning here a few weeks ago. At this point, we have five new buildings to be constructed on the site for the use of self storage, all enclosed. No exterior storage accepted on this particular property.

As part of this, we provided a new driveway here in the Southwest corner, entering the site and also a new drive coming off Magua. And that's the drive in question as far as the variance request.

And really the focus of our discussion then this evening and the So the code requirements and why we're unable to comply with them on the Magua Drive.

Sure. The grade change on this property is pretty severe. The grade finished grade for the proposed storage buildings and what may occur down at this corner, we're leaving that space open for future retail. We've been in conversations with coffee shop there. It's about 12 foot difference.

So we looked originally when we first started laying out the site at a couple different options for these drives. The only one that really worked well from a grading standpoint was this drive coming off Magua here. It's about 10 foot further east than the original curb cut, which is directly across the curb cut for the bowling alley across Magua. So this by putting locating this here, it buys us a few things. It keeps our grade less than 8% up to the grade entering into the storage area.

This building that you kinda see over here in the corner, that's future retail as part of phase two. All grading will be done at one point, at one time on this site. We're just pending getting tenants basically to move forward with phase two. So the other benefit of moving this drive at this current location, it gets us further away from the intersection, and we're still with, we still have about a 32 foot plus buffer between this and the adjoining residential property line. This current property is a four unit apartment building.

There is an existing fence, wood fence that is along that property line. And then we're also adding additional screening, landscape screening, and this was all covered under the previous submittals and reviews both for design review board and planning commission. But basically Norway spruces roughly 15 feet on center, some mounding evergreen shrubs in front of that, and then we're gonna try to leave as many of the existing trees on-site as we can. So this by locating this drive here also buys us a little more space for what this future development may be. Whether it is the coffee shop moving forward or some some other small retail center, we wanna make sure from a grading perspective as well as any potential car stacking if we have a drive through window.

We're trying to leave as much space there as we can. So that's what kind of pushed us to put this drive here. As far as the the north encroachment on the set 50 foot setback, we created a entry and exit lane for the users of the self storage units. So each lane has its own entry and exit gate to for a little added security as opposed to a single gate. And plus we wanted to provide a wide enough drive there for access for emergency vehicles.

We've put together previous plans showing all the required radius radii turning requirements for any emergency vehicles. So that's kinda where we where we stand. Oh, and just, I guess, as as a quick follow-up, once you enter this property, it is enclosed by fencing. So we have six foot fencing basically starting at this corner here, returning to this first storage building

Mhmm.

And wrapping basically around to the fifth building. We also provided with that fencing some mounding. So it's three to four foot high mounding, landscaping on the outside of the fence facing the neighbors. Just, again, to provide as much screening as we as we can.

Was there ever a version of this plan where you guys worked around having that exit out there? I don't know. It's just

we had

yeah. It's almost like you have another entrance off the front, but.

We had looked at providing an entry kind of centered on the site off of Main. The grade was too steep to really make that function well, at least to get up to a intermediate parking area for the storage and the future retail. It made the most sense. There was an existing curb cut there as an entry to the drive in. So we felt it was best to work there.

It's across the street from the bowling alley to have minimal impact on the residential neighbors. And all the entry vehicles coming in this direction would also eliminate some of the light headlight glare potential if we were coming straight off Main Street up the hill, basically.

Gotcha.

That was a similar question to what I had is how does how do the entrances that you've outlined here differ from those that existed with the previous property?

Let me bring up the existing plan here. K. Here was that existing drive. Again, we're over probably 10 feet from where that existing curb cut occurred. And

then

there were two curb cuts out to Main Street from this property.

Mhmm.

There was nothing else for the rest of the site. It's that at least kinda slopes uphill both to the south and to the east.

So you're proposing to use the same three driveway areas roughly?

The other two exits and entrances off of Main Street, That has not been developed or presented. We wanted to get a secondary drive along with the one that we added in the Southwest corner

Right.

For the storage and for I gotcha. The future retail. So it was at this point, we're at least eliminating one of the drives Okay.

Closest

to the intersection off of

Maine Mhmm.

With the potential of using one of the existing for whatever ends up in here.

Okay.

But this the primary focus was to provide access to the storage units, which are part of the phase one, a proper circulation route kind of through the property, and then we'll make separate applications and submittals for

So for for Magwood Drive then, there were previously two driveways and there and you're proposing two, but one is moved slightly?

On Magua, we're there was only just the one. Okay. And we're just

Keeping one.

Keeping one.

All right.

Slightly moved to the east by maybe 10 feet.

10 feet.

Okay. Thank you.

Sure. Additional questions from the Board? Anything from the city? Do have anything? No? How about, anyone here in the audience care to address this particular issue with regard to the drive and variance that's requested for the drive on property? Okay. We certainly welcome additional questions from the Board, with regard to the variance request that we have here. I understood you correctly, some of that was directed also by emergency vehicles and the access for emergency vehicles that kinda gives you a minimum that you're gonna need to work with there.

We had our civil engineer put together a couple plans showing the routes, of emergency vehicles based off of, the turning radius of

Of those vehicles.

Yes, that we got from the city.

Okay. Thank you.

Sure.

Okay. We'll certainly entertain additional questions from the Board or we'll entertain a motion with regard to the variances submitted before us.

Approving Mhmm. Effect of the use appeal?

No. Separate. Yeah. It's a separate just if we're going assume if it's there, that this is something that they would need with regard to the plan and how it's set. And as we kind of put on record earlier, that's an excellent question.

There is an appeal of the decision from the planning and zoning, right, that had been made approving conditionally your projects, sir. And that decision has been appealed, right? And that is a little separate item over here as opposed to what we have in front of us, which is more project focused and a need for a variance because the drive does not comply with the code requirements. And you've explained to us here this evening as to why that variance is being requested and what those needs are. So sitting back over here is that appeal of the city's Board's decision, right, to go ahead and conditionally approve the project in whole, right?

The individuals that are affected by that directly can appeal that decision And the City of Green Code has sought to it that we would be the ones hearing that appeal. And that is scheduled for the sixteenth. Our next regularly scheduled meeting, we meet once a month on the third Thursday of every month, and we'll make sure that we have a quorum before we go too much further, but that's an off record discussion to make sure that we can be here and that we have a quorum for you on those dates. But that's a separate matter. So we'll set that over here.

That essentially is our tabled matter, if you will, and it really isn't scheduled before us yet, but that's the one to come for us on April 16. We're looking here this evening on the request for drive and the variance that's needed for the drive. So with that matter before us, I would, again open the floor for a motion with respect to just this aspect

of it. I propose to grant an 18 foot setback variance on east side of the drive, a 27 foot setback variance at the curb of the drive and a 24 foot setback variance on the north side of the drive for a new driveway being constructed off Magua Drive at South Main Street, where 50 foot is required. This is great. Thanks, Just for this element.

Absolutely. So there has been a motion made to approve the variance as requested for the driveway off Magua. Is there a second to that motion to approve? Second. All right. Thank you very much. We are then on that issue alone, ready to go ahead, if you would call roll on the motion to approve.

Mr. Spate? Yes. Mr. Schultz?

Yes.

Mr. Encarvati?

Yes.

Ms. Newberg? Yes.

Okay. And that aspect will pass four-zero. All right. So thank you. This evening, we also have minutes, don't we? We have minutes from our last meeting, which was Thursday, 01/15/2026. Minutes were submitted prior to and circulated to Board members prior to our meeting here this evening. Assuming we've had a chance to review them and again, a nice job with them. At this time, I would open up the floor for any modifications, corrections or a motion to approve as submitted.

Motion to approve as submitted.

That's great. Thank you, sir. Is there a second to that? I would second that. Yes, we weren't All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? All right. Thank you. We'll accept the meeting in minutes. And is that it? Is that it? Are we good? Anything else for the good of the order?

We're all good.

No? Motion to adjourn.

What is grade? Is that like the slope

of absolutely. Yes, the grade. Yes, so the slope of the property as it comes in, right? And that impacts us, right? So then a motion to adjourn. Good. We stand adjourned. All right. Thank you very much. It's 06:31. Thank you all for your time.

Thank you. Thank you.