City Council - Regular Meeting

Some council members knew about it. Maybe it's just not the rest of us. I mean, you knew about it, right?

Calling to order the Green City Council meeting for this Tuesday, 11/25/2025. Will you please join me in standing for the Pledge of Allegiance?

I pledge allegiance to the flag of The United States Of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Madam Clerk, will you please do a roll call?

Mr. Miller?

Here. Mr. Nuschebauer?

Here.

Mr. Noble is not present. Mr. Spate is not present. Mr. Meager?

Here.

Mrs. Babbitt? Here. Mr. DeVitus? Here.

Okay. Thank you. Next on the agenda is council study session. I'm sorry, yes, council study session. Do you want to go through that? We normally have approval of minutes in council study session. The last council meeting, we did not have video, which is the official record of our meetings.

So We did have video. I'm sorry, you've said that twice now. We had video. Nicole hasn't had a chance to review it. Sorry, go ahead.

Okay. We didn't have a normal video system yet.

We have, right. Yes.

And so she is going through those and writing out the meeting minutes. So hopefully, they'll be prepared for our next council meeting. Thank you, Director Dean.

Next

on our agenda is public report. Is there anybody here signed up to speak publicly? Yeah. I'm sorry? For

the hearing.

Oh, for the public hearing? Okay. Anybody here to speak other than the public hearing, which is next on our agenda? Okay. Seeing that there's none, we move on to Item six, which is public hearings. We do have a public hearing this evening, and it is being done through Planning and Zoning Committee, and I will have Chair, Clerk DeVitus, handle that public hearing.

Okay. I would like to open the public hearing on Item twenty twenty five-twelve, an ordinance changing the zoning classification of approximately 30.5 acres of land located at the Northeast Corner of Greensburg Road and Winning Way from R1 single family residential to PD plant development and accepting the conceptual site plan of the proposed Greensburg Meadow plan development. I will open this public hearing on 11/25/2025 at 07:19. Okay. So we have the applicant here as well as administration from the planning department.

Whoever would like to speak first regarding this development, just state your name and address for the record, please. 585

Somerset Drive, Chardon, Ohio. Proceed. Yes. Go ahead. Sorry, haven't been here before.

Sorry, yes.

Good evening. My name is Richard Summers. I'm with Summers Development Group, and we're a family owned Northeast Ohio real estate company, approximately forty years' experience in the real estate business. I'm here tonight to present the updated Greensburg Meadows plan, and I want to highlight what's changed from an original plan that we submitted about two years ago, why it's better, and how it aligns with staff guidance and city goals. The plan was previously approved by the administration and approved by the Planning Commission, but was paused due to some complex utility constraints, primarily sanitary sewer.

Those issues are now resolved, and we have a path forward on all the utilities that are required for the project. Since that time, we engaged a company called Vocon, who is a Cleveland architectural firm and planning firm, to comprehensively reassess and improve the livability, connectivity, open space, and neighborhood compatibility. And I'd like to help you

Go ahead and put it on the counter there, yeah.

They're on that pink square, I think it's the center.

They'll find you. Yeah. They'll rotate

it and everything. You just leave it

there. Okay.

Ready? Go ahead if you are.

The site, as somebody indicated, is approximately 30 acres on Greensburg Road just East of I-seventy 7. We're proposing 101 single family fee simple lots. The existing zoning we're asking to change to planned development with fee simple lots to enable the open space forward master plan and connected street and trail framework. Highlights of this project, the density is 3.3 acres per or dwelling units per acre. The open space requirement is 4.6 and we're at 7.19 acres.

Active recreation required 1.15 acres and we're at 2.5 acres. We have four parking spaces per dwelling that will be all two car garages with two space minimum two spaces in the two car wide driveway. Plan enhancements. One of the important things we've done here, and it shows somewhat here, but I'd like to switch this, shows it a little bit better. We're proposing a balanced recreation and connectivity with two, what we call, pocket parts, which is here and here.

This gives residents better access to the recreation and amenity facilities. Connectivity is very important. It was talked about at some other meetings tonight. This is our proposed connectivity plan. Again, the playground here coming out Greensburg Road, the dotted lines are the proposed trails or sidewalks.

Mr. Sumner, real quick. If you're able to pick up the mic and speak into it.

Okay.

Just so that, you know, it's recorded a little better and we can hear you a little bit. No problem. Thank you.

One of the important things that we've done and looked at is we think that we can future access to Arris Park. So we're making provisions through the development to the northwest corner of the property so that it possibly can be connected in the future to Arris Park. This is one of the big changes. This is the storm water plan, the proposed storm water plan. It's been engineered.

It'll work. Again two neighborhood parks. This is active Area Recreation Area C, as you come into the project. You'll pull in, this is off Greensburg Road. This is what we're calling a lawn type park.

Possible bocce ball court, park, green space, picnic tables, places for people to enjoy the outdoors. The second park, this is actually a rendering of the pavilion and yard games as you come into the community. Active Recreation Area C.

Got a great lawn.

This is for people to sit and enjoy hopefully the good weather. This is the second park at the rear of the property. This will have a swing set and family amenities for the residents. Again, they're both connected parks. The trail framework with future access is very important to us.

Basically that's it. We worked with the community, planning department, and I think we've come up with a good plan, and we'd ask you to consider moving this project forward. Be glad to answer any questions, comments, concerns.

Okay. Thank you, Mr. Summers. Before we move on, I'll ask if there are any additional comments from the administration.

Well, the only thing that I want to add is in that area, we don't have a lot of housing diversity and a lot of housing development. So we are looking forward for more housing diversity in that area. And then also, the next thing is the potential tax increment financing in that district to increase the connectivity of the of this development to the parks and also to provide, you know, upgrading intersections and roads and extensions. So these are the I items that I just wanted to provide. If we move forward with this plan, we might be able to look at some TIF.

Okay. Thank you, Sheila.

One thing I forgot. I'm sorry. An important thing, another thing that Sure Engineering will require and we've looked at is there is some open space that could possibly be developed to the east of this property. And this plan does show two connection points. So that can be accessed to future development to the east of us. This is what's called a hammerhead. It allows a fire truck to turn around. All the turning radius has been checked and will allow for the city of green fire equipment to be able to turn and make all the turns in the project.

Okay. Thank you. So with regards to the street that's heading east on the south there, have there's been discussions with those adjacent property owners if they're

At one time been

to selling anything?

Approximately two years ago, we did talk to them. We engaged in some contract negotiations, and they did not work out. I didn't hear what he said.

He's just denying that for the record. Yeah. So we can call you up in a few minutes. All right? Thank you. Yep. And then what about the North one? Is the would the intent to be eventually potentially to hopefully connect on Byron or to run east to Mayfair as well?

Is it I don't think that it would connect Byron. The properties to the east of us both go all the way to the back. This back line is my under I'm pretty sure they go all the way to the back. So there are basically two more properties that are potentially developable to the east of us.

Not true. Okay. Yeah. I know one of our councilmen who's unfortunately not here today is involved with, you know, civil engineering type work and stuff like that. And he had expressed a lot of concern with the cul de sac type development, if you want to call it that. And, you know, with traffic volumes at, you know, high times, you know, 09:00 and 05:00 or whatever or if there's an emergency with ingress and egress. Do you think that the one exit will be sufficient for the density of this property? Has there been, like, analyses to make sure of that?

I cannot my son has actually been working on this more than I have, and he's out of town with his family. Do you know did we submit a traffic study yet, or is that for the next phase?

That's for the next phase.

So

we have not done a traffic impact study yet.

Okay. All right. Well, let's just we'll open this up to the Planning Committee and see what kind of discussion we got and go from there. Mr. Neugebauer?

Yeah. You mentioned a possible trail connection to Harris Park. What's the I don't see from your display who owns the property where you show that connection. Is that privately owned? Is that owned that's not owned by the city, is it?

I think the airport owns that property. Is that true? Yeah.

So if we were to work out something with the airport, that's how that connection would be made to Harris Park?

Yes. Yeah. And then if we TIFF this, we can use that money for more connectivity.

Sure. Okay. Yeah, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Neugebauer. I guess the other question I would have was so we have a I don't know if it's a requirement or recommendation for how long a road can be serviced off a cul de sac road. And does this comply with our current standards? Or is this would this be a longer connection than what we typically do for cul de Sac Streets?

I'm not sure about that. I don't know if we have any regulation about future developments and providing more access. If I'm understanding correctly, you're asking if they have some sort of deadline to get the other property attached to this one so then they can provide more roads and access, right? Is

that Well, more importantly, it just it limits the amount of houses that we have on a segment of street that is only connected in one direction, right? So I think there is a distance, and I just don't recall what that is. It's 1,200 feet. There is a distance that we used in planning to guide the development.

So this is a planned development, and we're changing the zoning. So under the planned development, we don't really dictate anything in terms of numbers. There are still some numbers that they have to look at and make sure that they are seeing them in their plan. But this is a plan development and everything is possible under a plan development.

So this would be public streets, though, in a planned development? This wouldn't be private street?

This is going to be a public street.

Okay. All right. Well, thank you for answering my questions.

Thank you, Mr. Neugebauer. I guess before I open this up to the council, I had a couple more questions. One of the newer neighborhoods we established a few years back that's being built up right now is Jacobs Ridge. I believe that their housing density is 2.2 homes per acre, if I recall. And then this one is a little over three. So it's about 50% more dense. I guess where I'm going with that is what's the like average lot size, average house size, kind of target demographic we're looking at here, price point, just like, you know, what's each property going to look like when this is all said and done?

Right now, it's average lot size. I do not know that tonight. But the we're envisioning 1,600 to 2,200 square foot homes. We envision it being a family neighborhood primarily, but we will be offering ranches for people that might want to downsize, stay in the community and sell a larger home. The average price point will be minimum will be $400,000 and up.

We are not home builders, we have not we're too early in the process to have agreement with any builder. But that's primarily a family type development.

Okay.

I believe the 3.3 dwelling units to the acre does meet your plan unit development code. It does.

So have your company built neighborhoods like of this extent or are we talking more, you know, smaller density residential neighborhoods? Or is this a first time for you guys? As out of

designed, this is 3.3 units per acre. Yeah. Is that your question?

No. I'm just saying, you know, you're not the builder itself. I was just curious if you guys have done this type of work before.

Oh, yes.

This is what you do.

We probably developed 4,000 lots in the Northeast Ohio area. Awesome. From Amherst to Chardon.

Okay. Thank you. That's all I had. I'm going to open this discussion up. Well, okay, Mr. Neuschebauer, before

we Yeah. Open this One more discussion thing. You mentioned diversity of housing here, and but you also said that they're single family homes on a public street. This doesn't sound like it's anything different than what's in the area of single family homes on public streets. So how is this how do you consider this to be a different type of housing from other things?

First of all, there are newer housing types that in that area, are not so much of newer housing. And this one, in terms of housing diversity, there are houses for elderly, for younger generations, for families. So that is going to add a lot of diversity and different levels of houses into that neighborhood, into that area.

Okay. Thank you.

Okay, anybody on council have comments? Mr. Mayer. Thank you, Mr.

DeVitas. First, just let me say this, I appreciate your interest in Green coming down here and doing this. I know a lot of our questions are going be pretty poignant and it's not going be a personal attack on you. Just want to say thank you for your interest in Green. You know, looking at this, my concern is the amount of density in this area without those multiple egress ingress points. What's the if this were to go through, what's your ETA on the finalization of that development?

We would propose doing this in approximately three phases approximately thirty three lots per phase. And I would tell you that probably a three year project, two to three year depending on market conditions.

And the reason why I asked that is this is my word. So there is a lack of affordable newer homes in that area. My concern is the density for which is going to be down in this area. We already have problems getting off of Wise Road on Mayfair, getting out of Heckman onto Mayfair Road. It's going add an awful lot of congestion there and I don't think there's a timeline to be able to get those intersections fixed with adding, you said one hundred and sixty six?

One and one?

One hundred one.

Oh, I'm sorry, 101 homes, which is mostly your target audience is families. So that's my one concern, it's not your fault, but that's just what I want to express. Second is more of an administration question. The amenities that were displayed here, is that going to be incorporated in the PD plan? I don't know if we

Yes, typically and I don't know how green works because we haven't done anything here. But typically you have a development plan or the PUD code would the approval would be conditioned on obviously the layout and then the amenities, the bocce ball court. Those can be well defined and we'd be willing to have the and be glad to have those in the approval for the PUD.

And I would definitely advocate for that. There's another development in town that had all these promises in PUD, it turns out they didn't have to do any of the

work because it wasn't required as part

of the plan. I would advocate that those things be incorporated in any approval for that plan.

Glad to do that.

Okay. The other thing I think, Mayor Neugebauer, you kind of asked a question, is being a public road with our salt trucks having to service it. Is this adequate? I know Wayne is not here, but, Zyla, do you have

Yes. In terms of the size of the roads, you're Yes, it is.

I mean, because again, if it's all nowhere to push the snow, my concern is getting our plow trucks back there. Know you have the Hammerhead and then another N Street there. I just my concern is, again, I think the number of density for how small this area is, and again, in relation, I thought Jacobs Ridge was a little too small, but this is going even lower. So that's just my concern,

It's unfortunate that Valley Wax car had to leave her. She had a family member or something going on with a family member. But she was we were in a meeting earlier with the administration where that was discussed, and she gave an affirmative answer to your question that that was going to be no problem.

Okay.

I'm not sure what the requirements are in green, but right now I think this is set up as 24 foot back to back curb to back to back curb, which is a typical section in most municipalities. And that also allows for and I don't know what your parking regulations are if you allow overnight, but it does allow for parking and still have two vehicles pass.

And I saw in your presentation there was a sidewalk that connected the parks and potentially up to that pond and up to Erez Park. Is there any sidewalks in front of the houses along the roads?

Yes, I believe that's required in.

Yeah, didn't see that as part of the presentation for the connectivity portion of it. I just want to make sure that okay.

Yeah.

I have a couple of other questions, but I won't take up too much time, but I'll yield.

Okay. Thank you, Mr. Mager. Any other council members? Mrs. Babbitt?

Thank you. Just wondering, we had the school board president in here talking to us several years ago when they were talking about opening the new buildings, and they told us that the schools would be at capacity when they opened. If we're talking about building something this dense with 101 units in it and we we're attracting families, it sounds like that's what we're trying to do, have you talked to the schools about this? Has has this been broached at all? Because I think this could be a real concern.

I know we've put in some serious density recently with apartments, and I sat on this council and listened to people say that there were not gonna be families. It was gonna be all just young professionals. There are plenty of kids in these apartments, and they're going to our schools. We just have to we have to stop spinning things in a way, just so some people can get what they want within the city. This concerns me greatly that we're not all waving a red flag here about the schools.

We will check on that. I'll get in touch with the school board, see what the capacity is. And typically what we've seen in other communities, though, in the past and I don't know when this new school was, but

They just opened. They opened Okay. This

Typically student enrollment in most cities in Northeast Ohio has been down. Now if you have an apartment project that brought it in, that could alter it, but a lot of cities were seeing school we've done actually a number of projects where we build on schools that were torn down, like in South Euclid and some other communities. So I don't I can't address green. We'll look into that and talk to the school board.

Yeah. I'm surprised that that you or the city isn't prepared to really talk to us about this because it's a huge concern here. I mean, we live in a community where we opened a brand new high school, and it was too full the year it opened. We have some we have some real concerns here with the our schools and overcrowding.

Yeah. Can I add to that? So this is for from many years ago, I was not here, but I heard that the city has hired a consultant many years ago to go through an impact study and impact fee for any new development. So based on that study, the Green School District and the parks, they do have the capacity for new development. Actually, all the other cities in Summit County, they are charging an impact fee, meaning any new development, any new development like this that they're going to attract a lot of people, they're going to have an impact on the city, on the utilities, the parks, the schools.

And the developers, they have to pay a fee per each unit that they built. We were looking at that. We wanted to get that too. But because we have enough of schools, enough of parks, we can't really charge that. However, we can we are looking closer to that into that to make sure that if there are going to any new development is going to have impact on our schools, We're gonna make sure that we are charging developers for that.

But I would need to know more about how that actually worked because when we became overcrowded here in Green, and I'm talking within the last ten years, we were using trailers at some of our buildings. I mean, we're not doing that now because we have mostly new buildings, but my understanding is that they are at capacity or they would be when they opened. That's what we were told by the school board. So it's a concern because even if we had the extra fee charged, what could we do with it? It's not going to be enough to add a wing to a school. I mean, these are serious I think these are some serious concerns. So I I that I wanted to ask if you've been working with the schools at all.

It sounds like we We have not, but we will.

And then my other concern is, was there a resident meeting held? Because I remember when the plans came up for a potential development in this spot a couple years ago, and we had a lot of Byron Drive residents and residents from the area who were very they had some really serious concerns about this. I'm just wondering what effort was made to talk with them before this reboot came to us.

We have not held a community meeting. We have I'm not aware of who we've talked to. I don't know if we talked to anybody because we had presented it once before. And this is a very similar plan, but with some refinements. And again, the connectivity, the two parks, so we did not have a community meeting.

Did planning I'm assuming Planning and Zoning notified the contiguous residents. Did there was there much participation at Planning and Zoning with those residents?

No. There was no resident at the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting. We do have a sign at that area with our phone number so people can call us if they have any question, and we did notify them for this coming public hearing.

For the council meeting?

Yes.

So I guess that's a concern. I I kind of was expecting to see some public engagement held before we were presented with this just because there was so much concern last time and so many specific concerns. And I don't remember them all because it's been a couple of years. But that can I'm sorry that I'm not hearing about a meeting and how we're handling those resident concerns. And I guess this is more of a comment than a question, but as to the point that we don't have enough of this type of housing in this part of the city, I think we need to look at the city as a whole, kind of like we do with parks where we don't necessarily have anything going on in Ward 1 for parks, we don't really want to put the money into that because we're doing other things with it.

We point out all the other things we're doing in the city. We have a lot of planned development in our city that has happened in the last eight years that I've sat here. We have Jacobs Ridge. We have two new apartment complexes. We there's a lot of high density housing going on.

So I don't I'm not sure that we need high density housing in every single ward or corner of the city. I'm I'm a little concerned with that being an argument in favor of this development because it sounds like we're ignoring the fact that we have already made so many zoning changes in this city for PD. It's everywhere. That's what I wanted to comment. Thank you.

Thank you, Mrs. Babbitt. Any other comments from counsel? Mr. Miller?

Quick questions. You mentioned home value starting at $400,000 and you mentioned starting at 1,600 square foot housing. I'm kind of wondering what's the average home price that you're anticipating in the development?

Well, they'd start at $400 That's always a tough question because some people buy a basic house, what we're seeing. Other people buy and they finish the basement and they do a lot of extras. Okay. So that's really hard to predict. But I can tell you that you pretty much cannot build a home today, unfortunately, for less than $400,000

Do you have any ideas who the builder is anticipated to be?

Very We've early in the talked to the nationals. We've talked to a couple of regional builders. So but again, without an approved plan, I'm kind of putting the cart before the horse.

Okay. Yeah. I mean, I'm not anti development. I don't want to come off that way at all. I think I live in a neighborhood that's one way in, one way out. And there's, I think, 80 some homes in our neighborhood. And there's some pluses and minuses to a single in and out, right? I mean, privacy is not a cut through. You're not going to get that through traffic. However, I do know how challenging different parts of the day can be coming in and out of one entrance of the neighborhood.

I personally would be more comfortable with this with multiple entrance exited. I know, you know, looking at the plans, there's a couple of possibilities of that happening. I know that it would require additional land being purchased and those owners being cooperative. And I have no idea what any of that means, whether that's happened or not. Don't want to I don't have that information.

But like was asked earlier, I wonder how much effort has been put into making this accessible either this exit that could come I don't know that it's really great to be on Greensboro Road again, but definitely having access to Mayfair Road would be a lot better in my mind. That's what Mr. Noble had talked about when we met last meeting and just briefly discussed this. That was his major sticking point, I believe. There might have been other things too, but so I kind of agree with Mr.

Noble that looking at this plan, 101 houses, parking for four cars, anticipated of, you know, elderly and family, I think the access to me is a little bit of a challenge just in terms of a one way, one way out. That's all I have, Mr. Dudas.

Thank you, Mr. Miller. Any further comments? Okay, let's open this

up to the public, if anyone would like to add comments.

Just please step forward, say your name and address into the microphone for the record.

Terry Miller. 62802 Byron Drive. And when this was brought up two years ago, they had agreed to a privacy fence between the residence of Byron Drive and the development. Is that still in this new

plan? Yes.

Is it in writing somewhere?

Again, we'll make it we have to borrow.

Yeah. It'd be preferable. You can step up.

We we would agree to make that part of the approved PUD.

Okay.

That was my Oh, I have one question. You mentioned very different types of housing. Is there a list somewhere that tells what those I mean, like, it gonna be low income housing? Does that fall under that?

Are you talking about this development specifically?

Yes. This this development.

No. And this is up to the developer, not me as the administration.

But what would be acceptable under that plan development?

Well, if this is a general question, I would say affordable housing can be part of the a planned development. But if you're asking about this specific development, I don't think that they're going to have any affordable housing under that.

Okay. All right.

That's all. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Nore. State your name and record name and address for the record, please.

Daniel Ritchie, and it's 2872 Byron Drive. Looking at the map, I believe that Hammerhead is my backyard. We were approached by the development, the developers, and were offered an insulting amount of money for that property. And there is no way that we would ever come to terms as far as selling that property in the future if that was going to be the same process. I don't know.

Think I'm just I'm kind of taken aback by this process again because I feel like this entire thing is being, I don't know, just kinda slid into effect because we were never notified by letter or anything. And it's just, you know, obviously the drastic effect personally on my property and then everybody else on Byron who it does affect. And I don't know if this is coming to a vote tonight as far as moving forward. Okay. So this is just a preliminary, like, just layout.

And then two, it's like it's nice to see the illustrations that were created, but there's no topographical map of this area either. And this is very I wanna say it's just the the terrain is very hilly in that area. And again, it's that we we don't have any representation of an accurate view of how this is going to look or what the outcome is going to be. And again, it's you have one exit that's leading out onto Greensburg that's right under the overpass, which is completely congested during rush hour traffic hours with the traffic light right there. So I mean, it's just I feasibly don't see exactly how everybody had stated.

There's going to be 100 additional houses potentially, two cars per house. So that's 200 cars that will be operating at various times always. So I I just I don't I don't even know how this even comes to, you know, anybody even getting excited about it. And I feel like anybody who's planning and zoning has been very excited about bringing all of this housing and economic stimulation to green. But again, the negative impacts, I think, far outweigh anything that is going to be positive with completing this.

Thank you, Mr. Ritchie. Do you want to add something, Mr. Newberg?

I just want to ask you a question. So you said you live on Byron. Yes. So is your property longer than your neighbors to the West?

Yes.

Okay. And that's how that and then and then there's, I assume, the property on frontage on Mayfair Road that comes back to your to your East property line. You don't own all the way to Mayfair?

I we basically have that entire rectangle here.

Okay. Thank you.

Very unusual prop his property is very unusual and that comes down and

Yeah. If you if you set your phone where where that display is, everybody can see what you showed us.

Helpful to me. And it's not for sale ever to anybody.

Thank you.

All right.

Is there any further comments from counsel or the public?

Sir, you should probably take your phone. You never know what you're

gonna get texted in a meeting.

Just had one question. I've I've lived in that house for forty years, and I remember back shortly after we moved in that the Beacon Journal ran a a map showing all the mines that are underneath that property. And on Wise Road, it's caved in twice to, you know, subsidence. So also, I'm in that property, I've seen the water actually flow down into the ground because my neighbors get flooded a foot foot of water, and then all of a sudden it will just disappear overnight. So I went back looking, and I believe it's an old breathing hole or a no ventilation hole for the mines.

So I would think there should be some kind of research done about what's under that property.

Thank you.

Thank you. Your your house on Byron, sir? Yeah. Though you haven't had any issues on on Byron Drive. None of those houses have had any issues. But the mines were specifically to the south of of where Byron Drive was?

Clear up to to Wise Road to the north Yeah. Which is another, what, quarter mile, half mile up there.

Yeah. I know ODOT put several million cubic feet of concrete in the ground there a few years ago.

Yeah. And before that, there was a house just to the west of where that subsidence was, that's front of the house, and it had to be rebuilt, and it had to be filled in with concrete and rock.

But you think there's evidence to say that the mines were south of Byron Drive?

That's the where the entrances were. Okay. And it went up clear up through there. It just be something that should It be checked

went to the north? Yes. So there could be under your under Byron Drive as well? Right. Okay. Thank you. Appreciate that.

We have done geological studies already. We did the boring and we did drilling and we did not come up with anything. I appreciate the insight, but we will check on the mines. But we did have a geotech company out there and drilled and found no evidence of there is some coal, a small coal seam that came up in the borings, but I wasn't aware of any of this.

Are you aware how deep your borings were?

Usually, they'll refuse also, and it's a reputable company. But again, I'll submit that to engineering and we'll look into it. I appreciate it. I don't want to buy something that's

Yes. I mean, oftentimes, you get that information for foundation, see how the foundations work. So I don't know if they were going deeper than that to see what was But we appreciate And

then as far as the neighbor that won't sell, maybe we need to relook at where the second potential future ingress, egress is, and maybe we will move it down.

Well, there's no question if you had a second point of egress, it would make a big difference in this development.

Well, that's what we've allowed for.

Well, yes, but allowing for it and providing it are two different things, right? But we understand the limitations.

Okay. Any other questions?

One more follow-up. Need

the mic.

Ten years ago

We got the microphone, sir.

About ten years ago, the highway department board holes all the way up 77 there and State Highway? Yes. They were shallow holes too. They were only like 30 feet and they poured it was over 1,000,000 gallons or square feet or whatever it was into that all the way up to there. They bored holes like every 20 feet or so and pumped them full of fly ash. So they obviously knew there was something wrong underneath the interstate there, and that certainly should be on the record somewhere. And that's adjoining this property.

Paul Paul, you should you should have record of where exactly where that was, right, When ODOT did that work?

They didn't provide any records to

us of where that cubic yardage went, but

generally, they were concerned with just what was in

But

state right of

how far north and south it went, I don't I'm not sure.

Something you could ask for? Yeah. Okay.

Did you have a comment, ma'am? Yeah. Can we can we put the map back up there? Please just state your name and address for

the record.

My name is Leah Miller, and I own, the property that's right beside here. 3191 And 3195 Greensburg Road, where this road is coming into, all the way back to my neighbor on Byron. So I have a couple questions. I was here two years ago. I've owned the property for a lifetime, And so I appreciate the comments that are coming up.

I know we had some other concerns about the noise from the highway, from the airport. But I wanted to ask, sir, do you currently own this property, or is it contingent on this plan going through? Are you the property owner?

Owner. Okay.

And I know that this would be a planned development and there was the talk about the sewer and the water and that would all be city?

No. Summit The County sewer department.

But it wouldn't be like well water or?

I don't think so.

They would have to extend sewer.

So I'm just wondering why we would want to put that kind of investment in something new for potentially new residents. I mean we want to take care of those residents I'm sure when currently in this area we don't have those services. And I know that there's probably some property owners who would rather not and not have that expense, but we put a lot of really good amenities in other different areas, but there isn't that investment in this corner. So will it take a whole new group of residents coming in before we put that kind of investment? And also we talked about some of the traffic concerns.

Is that something that this plan would be approved and go through and then we find out if the traffic works or is that something that we can decide ahead of time before this pushes through? Can you just somebody on council remind me the timeline of how this works?

Think typically, and I think typically, and somebody can correct me if I'm wrong, but typically, like, the expense of running sewer, the expense of running public or private water is at the expense of the developer.

Yes.

Not and it's being done specifically for this development at the expense of the developer in the homes basically are paying for it. It's not the city of Green providing that to just this patch. So I think that answers one of your questions.

But one of the things it does when you have these subdivisions located where like this one, they invest in the connection. So then now you now the other neighbors would start to have We the have access

to it. I live

in Meadowood, and we don't have water. And you wouldn't you probably wouldn't believe it, but we don't have public water on our street. It's on the street to the south and it's on the street to the east. But when they built our street, they didn't have it. But since then, they've put in water lines through other parts of it. And so now it's really close, and so we would have an opportunity. So what we find is that by extending them for a new subdivision, then it creates opportunities for other connections at a much more affordable price.

And then I think that you made a comment about tax or is that going to impact the current residents in that area? And because I'm not very knowledgeable in all of this, is it going to impact us that these very high priced homes are coming into an area that is what we would call Old Green I guess and our current home values probably don't even touch what those home values would be.

So, what she was mentioning was we have a program we can use called tax increment financing where their property taxes can be used to pay for infrastructure improvements within the city. So we as a council would be able to say that this is a TIF able, like it's a we can put a tax exemption on it where they get the taxes are passed on as service payments and the schools get their share and then we can put the money towards infrastructure improvements. But that would just apply to this district of properties and it would be defined via an ordinance by this council. So it wouldn't have any effect on you and your taxes and all that. And it's not going to change what they're being taxed.

It's just how we receive that money. It comes back to the city coffers to go towards public infrastructure improvements instead of just to the county that do their thing.

And then I guess my last question would be, I know that two years ago we asked some questions about the long term plan within the city. And I believe in the time since that meeting two years ago, we came up with a new plan. Am I correct in that? I might not be using the correct words.

So, we did a long range

The comprehensive plan. Plan. You guys did it 2024? Yeah.

It probably completed it completed in 'twenty four. Is that

right, Ms. I think that's right. Yeah.

So the one that was before that said that we wanted to keep this area as single resident. And again, I know it's difficult because we are living within two worlds in green. We have kind of the new green and the old green and it's hard to change. But did the new plan update that? Do we want to be adding more plan developments? Do we want more plan developments or neighborhoods within this sector in green?

Yeah. So is that document available on our website? Yes. I think

It's called Vision Green. It's

Yeah. And I don't know if you have the answers, but it might be a nice document to review for other reasons other than this. But if you if the planning department can answer your question for counsel, we would appreciate it. But just for your reference, it is on the website and that's something maybe you'd like to review.

So, Lia, to answer your question, if we need these, that's why we have all these public hearings. We want to hear from the residents. This is just a proposal. And we, as the city, we're not excited about the new developments. We are just here to do our jobs. Right? So we're here to hear from you, from your neighbors. And if you guys think that this is not gonna work in your neighborhood and it's going to increase the traffic and bring more problems in your neighborhood, we might not even consider that. So we are here we are here to hear from you.

Well, I know that I wasn't contacted before this meeting, other not specifically. And as an adjacent property owner, I didn't receive any notification other than seeing the sign that was out in front of that property.

So

probably I might be wrong about saying that at this point, we sent the letter out. So because this is a zoning and public hearing, we just put in the sign. And later on, when the zoning goes on and they approve that and when the development is going to take place, then probably is the time that we send out the letters.

Oh, you said you wanted to hear the second.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, this is this is the process. I don't make the process.

So so what is then the next step after after this? Will we backtrack and try to have those community meetings and hear from more residents than the three that you've heard from tonight. Will this go forward? I forget your process. Is it second reading? Third reading is when it could be approved, so not next meeting?

Is the third reading. So, at next meeting, December 9, it could be eligible for a vote.

Okay.

It feels a little bit fast for me. I feel like there's a lot of questions still. But that's everything I've got. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Miller.

A quick go ahead. Just quick, could you confirm for her what is being approved? If this were to go to a vote at the next meeting, what would counsel be approving just to kind of put it out there for record?

So if this were to be approved by council, it's going to rezone the district from single family to planned development. And then it's also going to approve the conceptual site plan, which is what you see now. But as the developer said, there's still it's just a concept. There could be all sorts of different variations before the final plan and planning comes before this Board. It would need to be approved again.

So it's not whatever gets voted yes or no, if that were to happen at the next meeting, it's not as to say to the developer, Go. There's still steps. Is that I just want to help

But you would be changing we would be changing this.

Zoning would be Okay. The overall development, I don't want to misspeak, but

I just want

to calm nerves maybe by saying the development isn't officially approved at that point. Is accurate? So I mean, the developer would have more time to hopefully, as Mrs. Babbitt and others have noted, put on some meetings, discussions with, you know, adjacent property owners and as well as hopefully discussions with the school as well, how that would affect them. But yeah, as Mr. Miller is saying, it's this isn't concrete. The zoning would be effective, you know, immediately upon passage, but the plan would it's just a concept at this point.

And then I guess because I always have questions, how many times has the council changed the zoning of an area and it didn't actually go through with that new zoning? Like, was it just does it just sit there and not get developed? Or does it usually get developed if the zoning change happens?

I don't think we've ever had one not be developed, but So I

can think of one here on Massillon Road behind my development. The zoning was changed by the prospective suitor who wanted to build fell through. So the zoning still sits in its changed plan development condition, but the building is not going forward because the suitor fell through. So when a new plan comes, it will have to be represented to counsel and voted on because it's a different plan.

So this PD is tied to the zoning change. If this PD goes away or this plan goes away, the PD kind of goes away. It's tied to the zoning change.

Oh, so it's not just the design plan that has to be reapproved. It's the whole zoning.

Correct me if I'm wrong, if we approve this PD here, this is the concept. This concept falls through, that PD essentially goes away till the next PD comes, correct? The PD is tied to this particular plan. That's my understanding.

I not know the answer of that question.

I'm sorry, I'm confused. I thought once we made a zoning change and we changed it from residential to planned development, it's planned development. And that's what that land can be used for.

That's my understanding.

But think there's

I'm not time to sure that. It is, Todd.

It's forever planned development, but it's a specific planned development. So somebody can't come in and just say, well, I've got another planned development. I guess I don't have to zoning. It would have to be resubmitted

because That's what the bigger saying.

Oh, yeah.

Well, the plans would, but the zoning remains the same. You're saying the zoning would change. If what I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think a really simple way to put this is what we're being asked to do with the legislation before us is to change the zoning of this particular plot of land from residential to planned development. And if we vote yes on that, then it's changed. So anybody who else who would come along and wanna develop on that property, they can do anything that plan development offers them.

Okay? It's it's they're not restricted by the restrictions that come with residential zoning. They they are they will be subject to the rules that govern plan development in green.

Agree with

that. Open to anything.

Well, yeah, it's important to know if that criteria

that it has to meet.

But if but still the final PD is tied to it. So if that if if a new PD plan comes forward, it's different from this one, we still have a vote and can deny it. Right? This is True.

Okay. That that's But does

council do that or does that go back to planning and zoning?

It goes back through planning and zoning. So council wouldn't somebody to say that.

Yes. So council wouldn't have a bite at the apple again?

You would have a bite at the apple again. It wouldn't. They've already BZC has already approved this plan. You can't then just completely change it later. They would have to go back through.

And then come back to us, Yes. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Okay.

Yes.

So a specific plan development, if this one fell if the zoning has changed to be zoned PD, but this development doesn't happen, somebody else is thinking of something that they want to do there, it will have to go back through all the channels and be approved. But it will never go back to being zoned residential, I mean, unless it comes through for a vote to change the zoning again. And it's important to note, I think, that there's a lot you can do under the heading of planned development here in Greene. So it can I mean, that's something to really bear in mind for everybody here who's gonna make this decision? You're opening up a potential for a lot of different things that I don't know if you want right next to those residences.

But there will definitely be the opportunity for someone to try to put them in if the zoning if the zoning gets changed.

Thank you.

Okay. I'll ask Leo a question.

Yeah.

You said you own the property just to the east of this basically the entire eastern property line of this subdivision.

Yeah.

And I note there are several structures on that property coming back. Are there more than one is there more than one house?

There's two houses.

Okay. And then garages, accessory structures?

There's two houses and a barn. Okay. But it is old green,

so

it's one parcel.

Right. Okay. So that long driveway to the east of the house on Greensburg

That's going to.

It goes to the second

No, that actually goes to the oil well.

Okay. So the drive for the first house also extends back to the second house? Is that how it works?

That's correct.

Okay. Thank you. Appreciate the explanation.

Thank you, Ms. Miller. Is there any final comments before we close this hearing?

Mr. DeVitus.

And Mrs. Babbitt.

If there's any if there's going to be more information given to us at the next meeting about this particular development that they want us to make the change for. I wonder if you could go back and look through notes from two years ago because I thought I remembered there being some very specific water routing concerns with the way that the development was structured the first time that we saw it. I don't that's not really my thing, and I don't remember exactly what the concerns were, but I do remember that there were water concerns, and I'd like to know how they're addressed this time around.

Yeah. Mr. Summers, go ahead.

Are you speaking of storm water or public water for drinking?

No. More like storm water. There were concerns about there was somebody on Byron who had very specific concerns about how the water was going to affect their property and sloping and grading and, you know

Typically the process in development in other communities is that the first of all, we can't dump any water on anybody else's property. Secondly, that's in engineering. They review all our plans after this were to be done, then we would submit final engineered plans. But the Ohio EPA laws are very strict in that we do what's called a preconstruction analysis of this, and we look at what the water is going off the site. We cannot increase the off-site water.

That's why you see all these storm ponds because what they do is store water and there are devices put in that allow the water to go off-site or where it's going now at a controlled rate. And we do have storm outlet, there is a ditch in the front, the property slopes from basically goes uphill. So I don't know how anybody on Byron would have an issue because the property again goes up from Greensburg Road.

All right. Thanks.

Thank you.

Thanks. Any other questions? Thank you for

your Okay. Thank you.

Mr. Summers, we appreciate you coming here and giving us a rundown on your development concept. I appreciate all the comments from the residents and counsel.

Oh, actually, Mr. DeVitas, I did have one more thing, One if I

last thing.

Well, I'm sorry. Just think it's it might be worth you might even want to hear

it. Maybe.

Probably not, but never know. I think it it would do everyone good to remember back to when Jacobs Ridge was proposed on Butler Road and all the things that we went through with the developer there to gain green space and to reduce the impact of the density that was going in there and all the efforts that were made and all the working with the surrounding homeowners that happened there. I think I think plan development needs to be more of a rarity at switching to plan whether we're doing it from industrial where we did it from industrial or r one. I mean, our zoning exists the way it exists for reasons. And to change it, we need to have really good reasons.

And I think that we need to know if somebody wants to come in and do three houses an acre, we we need to know we really need to know that they wanna work with the the people around them. The only reason Jacobs Ridge works and some people still does don't think that it does work out that well. But the only reason that it's gone along as well as it has because the developer made major concessions and worked with the surrounding property owners. And I just I don't think we should lose sight of how this needs to go if it's going to really change this way. Thank you for allowing me to say that.

Thank you. I will echo that sentiment. I think it'd be good for the developer to have some discussions with those nearby property owners as well as the schools that she had recommended and take a look into that whole mine thing. Again, thank you all for the input. I think it's been a good discussion, and we'll have at least two weeks, if not more, to mull this over and potentially bring it to a vote at our next meeting. So thank you all for coming, and we'll close this public hearing at 08:20.

Okay. Thank you, Mr. DeVitus. Next on the agenda this evening is the reading of correspondence.

November 2025, Planning and Zoning Commission meeting agenda 11/07/2025, Civil Service Commission agenda 10/08/2025, Civil Service Commission meeting minutes.

Okay. Thank you, madam clerk. Next on the agenda is new legislation.

2025, r 65, an emergency resolution dedicating real property as a public right of way and declaring an emergency.

This will be referred to Transportation Connectivity and Stormwater Committee.

2025 R66, a resolution adopting a moratorium on accepting applications for the granting of zoning certificates for any vape shops for a period not to exceed twelve months in order to allow the city to review applicable state and local laws to plan for regulations relating to such uses and declaring an emergency?

This will be referred to the Planning and Economic Development Committee.

Twenty twenty five R67, a resolution directing the mayor of the City Of Greene in coordination with the city's managed IT service provider to set and implement standards to protect against cybersecurity threats and ransomware attacks and declare an emergency.

This has been referred to the Intergovernmental and Utilities Committee.

That is all.

Okay. Next on our agenda is the report of council committees. The first being Finance Committee, which I chaired. There was a number of items of legislation in committee this evening, the first of which was oh, I'm sorry, all members were present, myself as chair, Clark Davittis as vice chair, and C. J.

Mager. Resolution twenty twenty five R48A, this is a resolution approving and adopting the twenty twenty six annual capital appropriations for the city of Greene and declaring an emergency. The total amount of capital appropriations anticipated for 'twenty six would be $24,177,440 as I mentioned in committee. That's about almost doubling of the amount that was spent in 2025. The significant project among capital projects is the Arlington Road reconstruction.

The committee requested time on Resolution twenty twenty five R48A, and time will be granted. Next, the committee considered Resolution twenty twenty five R49, a resolution approving and adopting the 2026 annual operating appropriations for the general fund and all other funds for the city of Greene and declaring an emergency. The total budget for 2026 is $47,000,000.940001. This is about a 6% increase, 6.24 precisely. This is an increase over 2025.

And a couple reasons were cited amongst those were salaries for city staff and the opening of the core facility in the city of Green. Again, the committee requested time, and time will be granted. Next on the agenda was Resolution twenty twenty five R50A, a resolution modifying appropriations within certain funds in order to provide sufficient funding and declaring an emergency. This was amended on 11/10/2025. The total amount of the adjustments on that legislation was $106,009.20 $107.21 Again, this was being done to settle accounts towards the end of the year, some accounts being a little shy and others having some give back.

The administration indicated they'd perhaps ask the committee to take time, as the finance director is not here today, and perhaps would have a couple adjustments on the final reading in 2025. And so the committee did request time, and time will be granted. Next, we considered Resolution twenty twenty five R55. This is a resolution authorizing the mayor to enter into a finance agreement with Consumers Bank for 03/2025 Kenworth T480 five ton vehicles from Kenworth of Canton and declaring an emergency. We had a brief discussion with our service director about the need for three new five ton vehicles primarily used for plowing.

Each of those vehicles would carry a price tag of 264,155 All three would be financed for five years. And then as terms of that lease, the city would then retain ownership of those vehicles at the end of the lease. This was on second reading. Counsel does not have the authority to bypass rereading and so time was requested and time will be granted. Next, we considered Resolution twenty twenty five R57, an emergency resolution declaring a necessity and intention to appropriate for street purposes certain fee simple interests, temporary, and permanent easements in and to various premises along County Road 15, being Arlington Road, altogether with the necessary appurtenances to be further identified as the Arlington Road Corridor Improvement Project Summit CR fifteen-3.55 project and declaring emergency.

Under this legislation, which is on second reading, the city is asking for the rights to go to court to seek any of the easements needed to complete the Arlington Road project. This is a fairly standard process that is used as we prepare for the construction. The city does have deadlines to clear the right of way, so to speak, to allow federal funds to be used for the project and this is a step that is often needed and taken to complete that process. This was second reading and the committee, again, is required to take time and time will be granted. Next on the agenda was Resolution twenty twenty five R59, a resolution authorizing the City of Green to enter into an agreement with Brenna, Mana and Diamond LLC to provide specialized legal services and declaring an emergency.

This relates to the prior item of going to court for all necessary easements for the Arlington Road project. Lisa Dean did indicate that she recommended the use of this firm because it's one of the specialties and the administration has agreed to enter an agreement with Brenna, Mana and Diamond to provide those right of way services. This, again, on second reading, time was requested and time will be granted. Next on the agenda was Resolution twenty twenty five R60, a resolution authorizing the city of Green to enter into an agreement with Kavanaugh Building Corporation for the installation of utilities and related site work for the installation of a prefabricated restroom building at Creekbaum Park, making an appropriation and declaring an emergency. The city seeks to put a prefabricated restroom facility at Creek Palm Park.

They are doing a collaborative project with Kavanaugh to make this work. The city will be doing some grading and concrete work and Kavanaugh will be doing installation of utilities to make this restroom facility available to the public probably in early to mid spring. The total amount of the agreement with Kavanaugh would be just shy of $75,000 Again, this item was on second reading and per council rules, the committee was required to take time and time will be granted. There was two other items that I was not present for that Clerk Devitas ran the meeting. And can he just go through that or should I leave for him to go through that?

It's just reporting. He your call

just wants to report into this conversation, I think.

Do you have any motions to make or is it just reporting? No motions. Or without

getting into the details.

Yeah. Okay.

All right. So the first item we discussed was twenty twenty five R51, a resolution authorizing the City of Green to enter into a contract with Environmental Design Group, LLC, to provide municipal engineering services from 01/01/2026 through 12/31/2028 and declaring an emergency. So this is a three year term updating a contract with Environmental Design Group for municipal engineering services that was put through a quality selection process by our city. It was the highest ranked firm of all of them. And we have been working with this company since 1993.

And that was pretty much the extent of the discussion. Again, it would be a three year term and there was no further comments from committee or counsel, and we're requesting time.

Time will be granted.

The next item was 2025 R52AA, a resolution authorizing the city of Green to enter into contracts with various planning, architecture, historic preservations and landscape architecture and surveying firms for professional services for a three year term commencing 01/01/2026 and declaring an emergency. So pretty similar to the last one. It's just opposed to engineering services. This is for all the other things that I had just mentioned like planning, landscaping, surveying, etcetera. Again, these companies went through a quality selection process.

There's 17 of them in the attached legislation that this would establish that three year contract term with for various projects within the city. Per Ordinance 20 ten-four, it's necessary for City Council to approve the hiring of these firms and the contracting for their services, and that's why it's before us. We opened it to committee and council discussion. There was no new discussion tonight. And the committee is requesting time.

And time will be granted.

Lastly, we discussed 2025 R61. That is on second reading. It's a resolution authorizing the City of Green to enter into an agreement with environmental design group, EDG, for the development of site improvement plans for Kleckner Park, making an appropriation and declaring an emergency. So this piece of legislation is contracting with EDG for continuing to implement ADA accessible walkways within Kleckner Park connecting some of the ball fields and just establishing those pathways to continue the desire to make that ADA compliant park, especially with the whole adaptive ball field and being the main draw and unique characteristic of that park. That is part of our plan with that park, and that money is coming from the parks capital fund.

We opened that for discussion for committee and council. And I know we had some comments from Mrs. Wax Carr about the scope of this project and the scope of that park as a whole. And she gave us a timeline, which I believe was early spring. I can't find it.

That's right.

Something like that.

Springtime for completion of that project. So with that, the committee was requesting time as this is on second reading.

And time will be granted. Thank you, Mr. DeVitus, for handling those items and planning in the finance committee. We had no old or new business come before the committee, and we adjourned sometime around 05:35 thirty two, I believe it was. Okay.

I'm sorry? 05:39.

Mr. Miller, 05:39 precisely. Thank you. Next committee to meet this evening was Environment and Parks Committee chaired by Rick Miller.

Thank you, Mr. Noojibar. The only reason I knew that is because I opened it up I you started. Had it written

should have

just asked you.

Yes, yes. So tonight, myself and Mrs. Babbitt were present for committee. Mr. Spade is absent.

We did have one item on third reading for discussion, item twenty twenty five -14A, an ordinance to amend Section 34.1, City Tree Advisory Commission of Chapter 34, City Organizations of the Codified Ordinances of the City of Green amended 11/25/2025. We had significant discussion at our previous meeting. There were a few updates made, some typographical is that a word? It's probably not a word. Anyways, since some changes and some text were made as well as an addition originally well, these are adjustments made to the 2018 ordinance, mainly adding a tree advisory commission that will act as an advisory committee to our urban forester, Bryce Zimmerman.

They will help establish a master plan each year, also come up with an official tree list that can be approved for trees in the tree lawns and public right of way areas. They'll have one meeting per quarter. A couple of things that they'll also be working on coming up with hazardous tree definitions and being able to work with property owners if they have dead or hazardous trees on their lots. But otherwise, this is only legislation in regards to trees in tree lawn areas and public right of ways. The one modification made originally, this was a three person committee that would be all three members would be appointed by the mayor.

There was an adjustment made from last meeting after discussion that one of the appointees would be appointed by counsel. We discussed this. There was not a whole lot of discussion tonight after significant conversation at last meeting, so we agreed that we would bring this to a vote. So I'd like to make a motion to adopt Item twenty twenty five-14A. We have a

motion and a second You want one? We have a motion and a second by Ms. Babbitt to adopt Ordinance twenty twenty five-fourteen as amended, 11/25/2025. Any discussion? Madam Clerk, please call for a vote.

Mr. Miller? Yes. Mrs. Babbitt? Yes. Mr. Nuszebauer?

Yes.

And Mr. DeVitus?

Yes.

And Mr. Meager.

Yes.

I'm throwing my back.

Okay. Ordinance twenty twenty five-14A is adopted, five-zero.

Thank you very much. We had no other items of legislation for discussion. There were two old business items brought up. One, estimated or planned completion of the Kloeckner Bathroom, the bathrooms at Kloeckner Park, anticipated early summer completion. And then also the Creekbaum bathrooms that we discussed tonight being installed, anticipated completion for that and usability would be early to late spring. Other than that, that was all we discussed. We closed at 05:48. Thank you, Mr. Miller. The next committee on our agenda this evening was Public Safety chaired by Barb Mabet.

Thank you. Mr. Miller, Mr. DeVitus, I were all present for Public Safety. We opened the meeting to receive a report from Communications Manager, Valerie Wolford and Chief Funai about the city's emergency, not response system, but reporting system, their their ability to send out messages to those of us in the community, who have signed up when there are emergency notices that are needed and also traffic, like, road shutdown notices.

There was a problem with the code red system that we currently use, and so we are looking into having another system fill that void. If you would like to hear more details about exactly what's going on with our system right now and what we will be implementing, I suggest that you go and listen to their report during Public Safety Committee, during the committee meetings, and you can have details on that. That's all we had in Public Safety. There was no other old or new business, and we were adjourned.

Thank you, Ms. Babbitt. Next committee to meet this evening was Planning, Community and Economic Development Committee chaired by Clerk DeVitus.

Thank you, Mr. Neugebauer. Myself, yourself were present for Planning Committee. Mr. Spate was absent.

We've had four items we discussed tonight. The first of which is on third reading, it was twenty twenty five-eleven, an ordinance declaring a portion of improvements to a certain parcel of real property owned by Toth Realty of Akron LLC, doing business as Toth Buick GMC to be a public purpose exempting 100% of the value of the improvements from real property taxation for thirty years and declare oh, it doesn't have emergency declaration. So this is a TIF legislation. It would allow us to have service payments in lieu of property taxes for a new $1,000,000 9,000 square foot truck service building for Toth GMC that's on Moore Road, just south of the Target Plaza. These TIF funds would be able to be used as infrastructure improvements in the adjacent areas such as Moore Road, Arlington Road 619 and and some other properties or public infrastructure areas around there.

This would go into effect in 2026 and would be for a thirty year term. And again, those service payment funds that we can use towards infrastructure would be after the school gets their agreed upon share from our TIF agreement. This is on third reading. However, the administration requested that we take time and move on these at our next meeting. So I will request time.

And time is granted. Okay. The next item is an ordinance twenty twenty five-twelve, an ordinance changing the zoning classification of approximately 30.5 acres of land located at the Northeast Corner Of Greensboro Road and winning away from our one single family residential to PD plan development and accepting the conceptual site plan of the proposed Greensburg Meadow plan development. We just had a lengthy discussion about this rezoning and conceptual site plan of a property that would become 101 lots with single family homes on 30.5 acres. We had an exhaustive discussion in our public hearing this at 07:00 with a couple of recommendations for the developer.

And since this is on third reading per our council rules, we cannot vote on this until our fourth reading due to the public hearing tonight. So with that, we will take time.

All right. Time is granted.

The third piece we discussed was twenty twenty five-thirteen, an ordinance declaring a portion of improvements to a certain parcel of real property owned by Sarah Works of Akron LLC doing business at Sarasubaru to be a public purpose exempting 100% of the value of the improvements from real property taxation for thirty years. Again, this is another TIF legislation. This is for the new Sierra Subaru that's going up along 77 along at the old Regal eighteen movie theater property. This is for a large dealership and service facility with a to be determined price on that property. Again, these service payments would be made to be put towards infrastructure in the surrounding areas.

Again, this is on third reading. The administration requested we take time until our next meeting, so the committee is requesting time. Time will be granted. Thank you. There was one more item we discussed that was on it's on first reading, and we discussed it due to a second reading passage request.

And it was 2025 dash R66, a resolution adopting a moratorium on accepting applications for and the granting of zoning certificates for any vape shops for a period not to exceed twelve months in order to allow the city to review applicable state and local laws to plan for regulations relating to such uses and declaring an emergency. So this piece of legislation was co sponsored by Mr. Mager and Mr. Spate, and this is putting a temporary moratorium for a one year duration effective whenever this piece of legislation would be passed on zoning certificates for vape shops as we get through some issues and discussions that would need to be made for how we handle going forward with establishing permits for the commercial uses of those properties. Again, that's on first reading with a second reading passage request.

So there's a potential for it to be voted upon on our next meeting, December 9. With that, the committee requests time on 2025 R66.

And time is granted.

Okay. That was all the legislative business. There was no old or new business for planning, and we adjourned.

Thank you, Mr. DeVitus. Next committee to meet this evening was rules and personnel in Jeff Noble's absence was chaired by Barb Babbitt.

Thank you. Mr. Miller and I were present for the committee meeting, and we had several items of legislation, so we did meet. The first of those was twenty twenty five R54, a resolution authorizing the city of Green to enter into an agreement with Zaschen and Rich Co. LPA to provide specialized legal services in the area of labor and employment for the purpose of contract negotiations and declaring an emergency.

Our law director spoke to this piece and indicated that, we're retaining this firm in order to help with the negotiations with the fire union. And council members were given the opportunity to discuss and ask questions. Because this item is on second reading, I will, on behalf of the committee, ask for time on 2025 R54.

Time will be granted.

Then we had one other item, 2025 15A, an ordinance amending rules of the Civil Service Commission of the City of Green. And we received a presentation by Pam Serena, the human resources manager for the city, and the mayor, described the process that has gone on for the last couple of years, with regard to the civil service, commission rules. And, apparently, they were dated and the process started, and the Human Resources Department worked with the administration and the directors and the Civil Service, Commission themselves to make changes to the rules and, fashion rules that better suit, the current mission of that commission. So, once again, this one is on second reading. And on behalf of the committee, I request time on 2025 15A.

And time will be granted.

Thank you. There was no other business to come before the Rules and Personnel Committee, and we were adjourned.

Okay. Thank you, Ms. Babbitt. Next committee to meet this evening was Transportation Connectivity and Stormwater, chaired by C. J. Meager.

Thank you, Mr. Nuschebauer. Myself and Mr. Nuschebauer were present. Mr. Noble was absent. We did several items before so we didn't meet. The first one being 2025DashR53, a resolution allowing the mayor to apply for federal transportation alternatives program funds programmed by the Akron Metropolitan Area Transportation Study for the Steeves Road Sidewalk Extension Project in the current emergency.

Okay. Sorry.

No, you're fine.

Did I miss something up?

No, not you.

Did. He did.

So this is regards to a project proposed on Steese Road. The total estimate of project cost is $1800000.0.05 I'm sorry, 1,857,200 requesting $1,000,000 in TASFA funds of which the Citi is willing to commit or able required to commit 20% towards that project. So this we had some engaging discussions. The Ohio and Erie Canal Coalition was here along with Pat Karleski talking about what this project entails and then their their comments on both. City Council had several questions.

I think there's still some stuff that needs to be sorted out. I think we're going get back some presentations that were presented to the community on Steese Road to all of council hopefully soon, well before our next council meeting. This is on second reading, so we cannot obviously take a vote tonight. So I'll be asking for time on 2025 R53. Time will be granted.

Thank you. Next up is 2025 R58. It's a resolution allowing the mayor to apply for federal surface transportation block grants, STBG, fund program by the ACRA Metropolitan Area Transportation Study, AMATS, for the Arlington Road Reservicing Project in the current emergency. So this is Arlington Road's Reservicing Project. The total estimated project cost is $1,800,000 The city's requesting about one or actually $1,000,000 in STBG funds that would require a city to contribute or be responsible for at least 20% of those costs.

So this is the space between Arlington Road between Turkey East Turkey Foot Lake Road, State Route 619, and the North corporate limit is what's being proposed to be resurfaced. So, again, this is on second reading. So I'll be asking for time on '20 25DashR58. And time will be granted. Next up is 2025DashR62, a resolution allowing the mayor to apply for federal surface transportation block grant, STBG fund programmed for the Hecker Metropolitan Area Transportation Study, AMATS, for the Greensburg Road Reservicing Project and declaring emergency.

So this particular project is a resurfacing project from the area between Lobby Road East on Greensburg Road all the way down to, I guess, the trail railroad tracks there on on Greensburg Road. The total estimated project cost for this is $700,000. The city's requesting 520,000 in STBG funds. Of that, the city's gonna be responsible for at least 20% of those. So this is on second reading. So I will be asking for time on twenty twenty five dash r sixty two.

And then time will be granted.

Finally, we had an item that's been on requested for second reading passage, so we did discuss it at tonight's meeting. This is a twenty twenty five dash r sixty five. This is emergency resolution dedicating real property as a public right of way and declaring emergency. As stated, this is being requested for second reading passage because it deals with a a right of way acquisition from the city for city owned property to account for the roundabouts gonna be on Arlington Road and Butler. So this is city owned property.

The plan or the requirement here is that we get all right of way acquisition for that project done before end of this year, which is why it is being requested for second reading passage. Since this is our first reading, we are gonna seek second reading passage of this on our next meeting. So for that reason, we're going be asking for time on 2025 R65. And time will be granted. And that concluded all the items before our committee, Mr. Neuschbauer. We adjourned at 06:52.

Thank you, Mr. Meeger. So what I was remembering as you were reporting is that in Planning, Community and Economic Development, we had talked about moving forward with a couple of those TIF ordinances, but we didn't. And that's okay. We can do it next meeting unless you want to do it this evening.

I mean, I'm fine with passing them. Are you okay with

them passing tonight? Okay. Then yes, let's move on.

Do you want to go back to your amend your report?

Yes.

So it wasn't what Mr. Vega was talking about. I was just remembering what we had talked about in your committee. So go ahead.

Is that

okay with you?

You want

to start over?

The whole evening. We've here way too long. Thank you. Okay. Should be 11:20 twenty five, eleven?

We can move on two of them.

Yes, eleven and thirteen.

Yes. Okay. So we are going to amend the Planning Committee's report to make motions on two of these items, the first of which is twenty twenty five-eleven. I will move to adopt twenty twenty five-eleven.

I'll second. We have a motion and a second to adopt Ordinance twenty twenty five-eleven. Can I have a roll call, please? Wait. Before we so, any discussion before we do the roll call?

Roll call, please.

Mr. DeVitus? Yes. Mr. Neugebauer? Yes. Mr. Miller?

Yes. Mr. Meeger? Yes. Mrs. Babbitt? Yes.

Twenty twenty five-eleven is adopted, 11 I mean, five-zero.

Okay. And then I would like to make a motion on '20 to adopt '20 25 dash 13.

Second. We have motion and a second to adopt ordinance twenty twenty five dash 13. Any discussions before the vote? Okay. Please do roll call.

Mr. DeVitus? Yes. Mr. Neugebauer?

Yes. Mr. Miller?

Yes.

Mr. Meeker?

Yes.

Mrs. Mabbat? Yes. Twenty twenty five-thirteen is adopted, five-zero.

Thank you. I'll reconclude my committee report.

Thank you again, Mr. DeVitas. Last committee to meet this evening was Intergovernment Utilities Committee, which was chaired by C. J. Meager. I also was a member of committee this evening as they were absent two members.

Thank you, Mr. Neuschebauer. As stated, the Intergovernmental Utilities Committee did meet, myself and Mr. Neuschebauer as a president pro temp. Mr. Spade and Mr. Noble were not present. We do that two items, the first being twenty twenty five r 56, a resolution authorizing the mayor to enter into an agreement with the County of Summit for animal control contract and declare an emergency. This is was discussed as more of a housekeeping matter. This is a resolution that applies just to dogs.

I know there was some clarifying information given by Director Dean regarding some other animals, including coyotes, being governed by other resolutions, not with respect to the city, but through the county and some other items. It's a five year contract. Again, this being on second reading, we're gonna be asking for time on 2025 R56. Time will be granted. Thank you.

Second item was on first reading. A second reading passage has been requested, so we did discuss it tonight, that being 20 25 R67. Seven. A resolution directing the mayor of the city of Green to, in coordination with the city's managed IT services provider, to set and implement standards to protect against cybersecurity threats in a ransomware attack in the current emergency. This is something that has come to fruition regarding a change in law here in Ohio.

The city of Green is proposing to work with our IT service provider, which is Sikich, to act as a consultant to help identify, critique, and evaluate risk regarding our cyber and ransomware. Director Dean summarized the need. The fact is we need to get a plan in place, which will not become public for obvious reasons. So we ask any council member looking to see the plan to please reach out to the law director and meet with her in person to review that plan. There is a time constraint. It needs to be implemented by end of this year, which is why second reading passage has been

requested. And time will be granted.

Thank you. That concluded all the items before this committee, and we adjourned at 07:02 p. M.

Thank you, Mr. Meager. That finishes our committee reports, unless I missed one.

Next on the agenda is the mayor's report. Mayor Juergen. Thank you, Mr. President. The Green leadership applications are now open November 15, as of November 15 for the spring twenty twenty six class.

Beginning the fifteenth through December 31, the City Of Green is accepting applications for the 2026 Green Community Leadership Initiative and an in-depth civil leadership program designed for businesses and community leaders who live or work in Green and are interested in becoming more engaged in shaping the city's future. Thanks to all of you who attended the grand opening of the Core on November 15. There is currently more than 1,000 memberships among residents and non residents for the core. Charter resident memberships are being offered at a discounted rate if purchased before November 30. The charter rate for individuals is $100 per year.

There is a schedule available on our website listing all the different memberships at different levels. Save the date for these November events. The last Grade eight race in 2025 is the Green Turkey Trot in just two days, Thanksgiving Day, November 27. And mister Mager, you can still register for that. Correct?

That's a good question. Didn't mean to

put you on We we capped it at 1,000 runners. I think we're at 1,000 runners. So I think registration is nope. There's 18 spots left. So

Hurry if you want to register for the turkey trot. Thank you. Christmas at Central Park is Saturday, December 6. New this year is the Christmas Village. PLCC donated seven village houses built by their building construction classes. We have teamed with local groups, the library, the green fire, our parks division and many others to decorate the houses. The Christmas village sponsored by Toth Buick will be officially open on December 6 to walk through. Also new this year, Santa will arrive earlier to ensure that all the good little boys and girls get a chance to meet him. He arrives by fire truck this year at 04:30PM. Once again, Santa will light up the park at 05:30 followed by fireworks.

For the complete list of events, visit our website at cityofgreen.org. Tickets are still available for the November 4 senior holiday luncheon at Graintree at Raintree Golf and Event Center. Contact our parks division at (330) 896-6621 to purchase your tickets. And finally, tickets are available for our annual holiday concert featuring the Akron Symphonic Winds on Tuesday, December 16 at seven p. M. At the Chapel in Green. Tickets are six dollars for adults and $3 for kids three to 17. Kids under three are free. Thank you, Mr. President.

Yeah. And obviously, the holiday luncheon will be December 4 Yes. Or

You said November.

You said November. I'm sorry. So but it gives us a chance to say the date one more time.

Everybody probably assumed Thank

that you for

that correction. December 4. Senior holiday luncheon.

December 4. Yes. Thank you. Okay. Appreciate that report. Is there any unfinished business before counsel? Any new business? Hearing none, let's do a roll call to adjourn the meeting. Or do we make a motion?

Motion.

I'll make a motion to adjourn. Second. We have a motion and a second to adjourn this council meeting. Please do a roll call.

Okay. Mister Nugibauer?

Yes. Mister Meeger? Yes. Mister Miller?

Yes.

Missus Babbitt? Yes. Mister DeVitus?

Yes. Motion carries.

Request time. Time will be granted.