Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Tuesday, August 4, 2026

The Grantsville Planning Commission recommended amendments to the land use ordinance, including expanding micro-entrepreneurship to all zones in Chapter 15 and adjusting regulations for home occupations and driveways. The commission also discussed the role of planning commissions and the potential impact of a nuclear lifecycle innovation campus in Tooele County.

About this meeting

Government Body
Planning Commission
Meeting Type
Planning Commission
Location
Grantsville, UT
Meeting Date
August 4, 2026

Transcript

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1:05Speaker 1

indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

1:16 – 2:53Speaker 7

Thank you. Okay, so our meeting format's been working pretty well. We're going to continue moving forward with this for tonight's public hearing items. The following format will be followed. So each agenda item will have a staff presentation. And then if there's an applicable public hearing and public comment period for that agenda item, we'll have it at that time. And then we will close the public hearing and bring it back to the commission for discussion and consideration. If there are public comments during each agenda item, we just ask each speaker limit their time to three minutes. And if they'll remember to state your name and your address for the record, that would be much appreciated. Just remember that the commission could not engage in discussion or answer questions during the public comment period is to record any public comment and concerns on the official record for the meeting and the agenda item. So we will move to agenda item number one, the presentation public hearing discussion and recommendation of a proposed amendment to chapter 15 of the Grantsville land use ordinance to add the R121 zone as a zone designation for micro entrepreneurship. We'll begin with staff presentation given by Shelby Moore. Adobe's being duffed. If we can get Adobe to work. Did you brush the bottom of it?

3:03 – 3:19Speaker 6

And so we have received a request to allow the micro entrepreneurship in the are 121 zoning currently it's allowed in the arm 7 and so now we're just going through the process is if you guys want to allow that used to be expanded.

3:22Speaker 7

The questions for Shelby.

3:25Speaker 3

Is there a reason it wasn't this only wasn't included on the first go around.

3:32 – 3:43Speaker 6

So initially what brought this up was a applicant in the RM7 zoning, and it was just not put in the other zones. It was left in the RM7.

3:46 – 3:57Speaker 3

So we're only talking about R1-21 tonight. Why are we not including other zones at this time? Okay. as opposed to letting you get pieced out as people come forward to live in other zones.

3:57Speaker 6

We absolutely can allow it in other zones. That's a decision that you guys would need to make.

4:02Speaker 5

Okay. I think I go to the well more than once if we don't have to, as long as... Yeah.

4:09Speaker 3

No, that's... No, that's all I had.

4:12 – 4:41Speaker 5

Great question. Great comment. I did have a question. And I don't, I can't pull it up right now, but I think it was in that table that you presented with this. One of the things that shows on there was that you have the micro entrepreneurship and the one table I was looking at that you provided showed that it said it was, let's see, conditional on, okay, the one I had that was only conditional on 121. And right now you're showing it would be on RM7 or 121.

4:43Speaker 6

Yeah. I had to highlight it because it's hard to spot the green in this.

4:49 – 5:11Speaker 5

The one I was looking at didn't show up, and that's why I was curious. It was only showing up on the R121 we're talking about? Yeah. Yes, R121. Anyway, okay. So would it be outside the purview, I guess, of this discussion if we were to request that it be added to additional zones as long as we could make it work?

5:12Speaker 6

I believe so.

5:15Speaker 1

The recommendation could include that it be added to additional zones.

5:19Speaker 7

In this meeting.

5:21Speaker 1

We wouldn't need to post it again.

5:30 – 5:41Speaker 7

I wonder if it would help. Could we look at the definition of the microenterprise again and see why we were looking at whittling down the...

5:42 – 6:06Speaker 5

appropriate conditional use through specific zones i wonder sorry i should have looked at that before let me i hadn't thought of it how camera brought it up that's a good point if we're going to include it to one why wouldn't we do it others to have it could the end of this is a streamline it's a little bit we can make it a little simpler for people to come and ask for it

6:17 – 6:31Speaker 6

So low intensity use consisting of one small independent business operating at a limited scale with minimal offsite impacts and does designed to be compatible with surrounding residential or rural uses.

6:32 – 6:52Speaker 3

Okay. Have there been any complaints coming from any? How many of these do exist? These micro? One. Just one? Only one in the entire city? Yep. That's funny.

6:52 – 7:08Speaker 1

Okay. So perhaps we should go to 8.9 to look at more about what this means. I don't know where it's at.

7:46Speaker 3

That's even got their conic sizes. Yeah.

8:10Speaker 7

Okay. So do we need to read this into the record or?

8:16Speaker 7

Okay. Do you guys have any other questions?

8:19 – 8:33Speaker 5

I'm just confirming that we're making this request or the intent today is to make this a conditional use for bottom 21 zone. We're contemplating actually making that to other zones, including that as other zones as well. So it's not permitted, it's conditional.

8:34Speaker 6

Correct. Conditional in all the zones listed in Chapter 15.

8:45 – 10:08Speaker 7

Okay. So we'll consider that after public comment. Okay. Thank you, Shelby. Okay. All right, commissioners, we will open the public hearing for agenda item one. to record any public comments on the recommendation of a proposed amendment, Chapter 15 of the Grants Bill Land Use Ordinance to add the R121 zone as a zoning designation for micro-entrepreneurship. If there's anybody who would like to enter a public comment into the record, please approach the podium and state your name. If there is anyone online who would like to enter a public comment, would you raise your hand so Nicole can enable you to talk? Okay. Nobody online. So we'll close the public comment and we will bring this back to the commission for discussion and consideration. That was good news. Thank you. Because I was just looking at the agenda item, but I think you're very intuitive to want to apply that in a more broad sense.

10:09 – 10:20Speaker 5

Thank you. I don't have any concerns. Right along with Cameron on this, I think I like his idea. Okay.

10:21 – 10:34Speaker 7

Tyson, do you have any other comments or thoughts on applying this conditional use of micro entrepreneurship to the all zones listed in Chapter 15?

10:37 – 11:38Speaker 1

I would just point to 8.9... I think is what it is, where we just, that discusses the accessory structure standards. So there is allowed an accessory structure for a micro entrepreneurship, a freestanding movable structure, not exceeding 10 feet by 10 feet in size. The structure may be used only for accessory storage and incidental onsite sales directly related to the appropriate permanently affixed to the ground shall not continue plumbing or permit utilities unless otherwise approved and shall comply with applicable setback visibility and compatibility standards. Just to sort of envision what that would be like in the different zones and if that's something that the Planning Commission would like to recommend to see throughout the city in different zones. Thank you.

11:42Speaker 3

Maybe just some ignorance on my part. Help me. So it's already an RM7. What does an RM7 look like right now?

11:51Speaker 6

It's 7,000 square foot lots.

11:53Speaker 3

So we're already, this is the structure in the smallest lot in the city, basically?

11:57 – 12:11Speaker 6

Yeah, so corner lot's 10,000. The smallest single family lot is 7,000 square feet. And then like townhomes and things like that could be smaller square footage, but that also depends on like your frontage and other things like that.

12:11 – 12:24Speaker 3

So we're already allowing it in basically the smallest footprint. One of the smallest. Okay. Okay. That's what I was thinking. I was just making sure. Because when Tyson said that, I thought he was trying to trick us with something there.

12:25 – 12:51Speaker 5

I think what I think we can clarify is that if we do allow this for all the zones, that it has to meet all applicable city, other city standards. So it's not like they just are guaranteed to have this. They have to meet all standards and ordinances not But it is conditional. We could make it conditional. They just have to follow everything. So just by saying it's conditional doesn't guarantee them in there if they can't meet the other standards or ordinances that are in the city.

12:51Speaker 7

I don't know if that would restrict anybody's rights to do this. Tyson, what do you think about writing in an expectation that it would meet all the other?

13:01 – 13:19Speaker 1

That's already in there. That's kind of what he said. It shall comply with all applicable setback visibility requirements. But it would have to comply with with the underlying so for that to be approved. Okay.

13:21Speaker 7

Okay. So what we want to consider emotion.

13:32 – 13:54Speaker 3

I move to recommend approval to City Council for the proposed amendment to Chapter 15 of the Grantsville Land Use Ordinance to add the R121 zone as zoning designated for micro entrepreneurship with the conditions presented in the staff report with the following modifications also allowing conditional use in all zones listed in Chapter 15. Second.

13:55 – 14:31Speaker 7

Okay. Thank you, Jason. Thank you, Cameron. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Passes unanimously. Thank you. Good conversation. And then we will close item number one and move on to agenda item two, which is a presentation, public hearing, discussion and recommendation of the proposed amendments to chapters two, six and seven of the land use ordinance. We'll begin with a presentation from Staff will be more.

14:34 – 16:03Speaker 6

So we went over this in our last meeting and we made the changes recommended by the Planning Commission. So for home occupation we removed the language that no property shall be eligible for a home occupational permit and the minimum lot frontage and we put the lot shall have frontage along a public or private road that provides legal access to the property. And then we removed this frontage language. And then on chapter 6, we adjusted the language for the driver approaches. So no driver approach shall be closer than 12 feet to each other, no closer to the side property line. The minimum side yard setback established for the applicable zoning district is measured from the side property line to the nearest edge of the driveway, not to include flares. the required front yard setback established for the applicable zoning district. So instead of being 60 feet from any intersection that now it's what the setback is, the side yard setback. So, you know, if it's 25 feet, that's how far away your driveway needs to be. Um, we were having issues with, um, lot frontages being 60 feet and then there just wasn't that frontage, um, right there. So we've adjusted that to meet, um, the clear view intersection as well as, um, your setbacks of the zoning district or whichever is greater. Perfect.

16:03Speaker 7

And then Chapter 7.

16:08 – 16:44Speaker 6

This was a request from Planning Commission, but if comments are received, it used to say that indicated a concern about the proposed conditional use, the conditional use shall be sent to Planning Commission. Now we've changed it to if comments are received that identify a potential issue regarding the proposed conditional use's compliance with approval standards of this chapter or other applicable provisions of the land use ordinance, the conditional use shall be referred to Planning Commission for its consideration. That's if someone can prove that it's a nuisance or something like that, then it would kick it back.

16:45Speaker 5

I actually really liked this.

16:55Speaker 6

Those are all the changes.

16:56Speaker 7

Fantastic. Thank you.

16:58Speaker 3

We're making this government run like a top.

17:03Speaker 2

It's all about the transparency.

17:06 – 17:20Speaker 7

I don't know what other cities do without a Shelby and a Nicole. I appreciate that. That simplifies it for our community members so much. It does. And it helps staff out a lot too.

17:20Speaker 6

We're not guessing if it's going to get comments or not and if it needs to go to planning commission. So

17:24 – 18:25Speaker 7

Okay. All right. With that, I think we'll open it to public comment. Perfect. Okay. Thank you, Shelby. So with the staff presentation complete, we'll open this for a public hearing on agenda item two, which is the recommendation of a proposed amendments of the proposed amendments to chapters two, six, and seven of the Grantsville land use ordinance. If there's anybody who would like to enter public comment into the public record on agenda item two, please approach the podium and state your name. Okay, I don't see any offers of public comment. If there's anybody online, would you please raise your hand so Nicole can allow you to talk? Okay, Nicole's indicating no one online. We will close the public comment period for agenda item two and bring it back to commission for discussion and consideration. Cameron.

18:26Speaker 3

No, no issues. I think this is we kind of talked about this last time and it makes sense. So yes, no, no concerns for me. No concerns.

18:33Speaker 7

Good. Okay. Well, entertain a motion.

18:37 – 18:49Speaker 5

I move to recommend approval to city council for the proposed amendments to chapters two, six and seven of the grants for land use ordinance. Subject to the conditions that were outlined in their staff report.

18:51 – 19:29Speaker 7

Thank you, Jason. Thank you, Cameron. All in favor? Aye. Passes unanimously. Super. We will close item number two. And we will move on to agenda item three, which is presentation discussion of the approval of minutes from July 7th, 2026 planning commission regular meeting. July 21st. Bye. July. Oh, July 21st. Yes. I'm sorry. I missed the 21st. Oh, no, I missed the 7th meeting. I was here for the 21st. Geez. I can't believe it's August already. I've been seeing that all day.

19:29Speaker 3

Well, it says July 7th in our packet, and then it says April 21st, and then it says May 5th, and then on this sheet it says July 21st. There's four different dates about the minutes on our stuff.

19:40 – 20:13Speaker 7

Sorry. And I would have read them all and not even given a second thought. So... July 21st so approval consideration of the approval of the minutes from the July 21st 2026 planning mission regular meeting. Is there any concerns or comments don't look good to me. Okay, I had no concerns so I consider motion.

20:15Speaker 3

I move to approve the minutes from the July 21st, 2026 Planning Commission regular meeting. Second.

20:22 – 20:36Speaker 7

Thank you, Cameron. Thank you, Jason. All in favor? Aye. Okay, passes unanimously. We'll close agenda item three and move on to agenda item four, which is a report from city staff.

20:37 – 20:56Speaker 6

Holiday oil is getting ready to break ground next week, so that's... And then another project that is very close to them will be coming to Planning Commission soon. That's all I have. Enter Bill.

21:05 – 22:25Speaker 2

You know, I've got something to say. Last meeting, we talked a little bit about data centers, and I wanted to reiterate that we have no submittals, plans, or any kind of indication of any kind of plans anywhere in the city for a data center. The point of the discussion was to be kind of preemptive about it, get out ahead of the thing, discuss it, regulate it. If we want it at all, we're going to Work on some good performance standards to make sure that if it does, if one does want to locate in our city, and it is something that we want, then it will have a minimal impact and the impacts that are there will be mitigated. We, as staff met just yesterday, in fact, to discuss. some of those performance standards and regulations. And I'm going to work on getting a staff report together for you for the next meeting. Again, discussion only. So we can have a talk about that. I also met with the county manager for Tooele County, who is anticipating a data center and looking to regulate those. And so I got his notes as well. And they're presenting, didn't he say tonight?

22:26Speaker 6

I thought they were, yeah. Actually trying to look it up right now.

22:30 – 22:50Speaker 2

Yeah, he's, he's, anyway, he's sent me over a copy of what they've been working on. So I'm going to incorporate some of his notes into that proposal as well. So again, you'll see that in a couple weeks. Just wanted to give you a heads up on that. And then we are looking at our APA conference. What's the date on that again?

22:52Speaker 2

September. 9th and 10th?

22:54Speaker 7

I believe so, yeah.

22:55Speaker 2

And I think we've got everyone signed up for that. If you haven't signed up and would like to, please let Nicole know. And it should be a good one.

23:07Speaker 7

Thank you, Bill. Appreciate it. That is hard work. Who knew you would become a star overnight?

23:16Speaker 3

Totally famous. Did you get a lot of people coming to meet with you after that meeting?

23:21Speaker 2

You would be surprised, wouldn't you? I gave out my phone number and email and it's on the website. Nothing? Nothing. Not boo.

23:29Speaker 7

I saw Nicole's contact information for business card being passed around the internet. Nobody?

23:39Speaker 7

That's interesting.

23:40 – 23:54Speaker 2

This is my cell number. I mean, I don't mind saying it. 801-200-2321. Call me. Text me. Email me, whatever. I'm happy to talk to whomever, whatever, whenever. And just nothing, nobody.

23:54Speaker 7

I love the open conversation.

23:56 – 24:11Speaker 2

Which is, it's both a really good thing in that people aren't upset with me and us, but also, you know, hopefully they would feel like they could and that we would respond to it.

24:12 – 24:24Speaker 7

Yes, you've been very open and welcoming. in offering those opportunities to have reasonable conversations, and I really appreciate it because I know you're busy.

24:24Speaker 2

I'll just try to be proactive about it, I think.

24:27Speaker 7

Very helpful.

24:32 – 24:51Speaker 7

Okay. Is there any other items from city staff? Okay. Thank you, Bill. We'll close agenda item four then and move on to agenda item five, open forum for planning commissioners.

24:51 – 25:20Speaker 3

Okay, we've got some time, so I just have some questions about some stuff so I can have a better understanding. So my understanding is planning commissions exist because state law says they have to exist. Is that correct? What does the planning commission... What would the Planning Commission approve that wouldn't need to be seen before City Council? Is there anything or does City Council have to approve everything we recommend or that we see?

25:23 – 25:36Speaker 6

Well, not everything that you see. So like you'll make considerations on a lot of items, like a lot of conditional use permits. But if it's legislative, like these ordinances, then that's when council rules.

25:36 – 26:15Speaker 3

So city council doesn't see like the conditional use stuff that doesn't go to them after we see it. That's just that stays here. OK, here's here's my line of thought. I'm just thinking. Planning commissions in general, this is fun. I like doing this right now. They exist. But how much money is spent. By every city in the state, having a commission come in here stuff. Having to pay staff to be here and then city council having to then hear the same stuff again and being able to make. their own decision anyways, right? I just wonder if it's a level of bureaucracy that's costing taxpayers who knows how much money and does it need to exist?

26:15 – 28:46Speaker 2

It's a good question. And the case has been made for having everything just dealt with on a planning commission level and or at a city council level and eliminate the process of going through one or the other in the name of expediency and in cutting out bureaucracy and in saving some money. only real argument that i can think of and to me it's a persuasive argument is that it gives people two opportunities to address a public body and while we don't make decisions on everything uh most the legislative items like shelby points out do go to the city council for ultimate approval um if you can't make it to one meeting You can make it to another. If you don't feel like you got the result you wanted from the Planning Commission, you still have another bite of the apple with the City Council. It's rare. I have seen it where a Planning Commission's recommendation will not be followed. I've seen sometimes where they feel like the City Council feels like the Planning Commission didn't get enough feedback before they made the decision, so they'll push that item back. Again, extremely rare, but I've seen that happen. It's more often that the, and you've seen this, that the Planning Commission will make a recommendation, and based on that recommendation, the City Council will vote accordingly on And it's because of the public input that is garnered at the Planning Commission and the role that you guys play. You guys are unique in that you're not elected officials, which means that you're not beholden to constituents in the same way that an elected official would be. You are ostensibly independent and can make decisions without having to worry about getting voted off the island. And that's a significant thing. It makes you... It gives you a level of credibility and also impartiality in your decision making so that that matters. You make decisions and you deliberate based on how you feel and how you understand the issues and how you want to respond rather than, oh, I need to represent the 5,000 people that voted me into office. If that makes sense. Well said. Thank you. I've obviously thought a lot about this.

28:46 – 29:00Speaker 7

And there's also an appeal process for things that may not be discussed and approved here. And we have that board that... An appeal authority. An appeal authority. Who is that? Can you remind me?

29:01Speaker 3

It's the city council, right? Yeah, I was going to say the city council would

29:05 – 29:16Speaker 6

Are you guys also the appeal board? We have two. So we have our Board of Adjustment, which is our first level, and then council, and then the courts.

29:17 – 29:29Speaker 3

But they wouldn't be appealing our decision because they'd be appealing the city council's decision, right? Because we would send a recommendation, so it would be the decision city council ultimately decided that would be appeal.

29:29 – 29:56Speaker 2

So, administrative items get appealed to the board of adjustment. So if you, if the people don't like the decision, either the staff makes administratively or the planning commission makes administratively, then it goes to the board of adjustment who acts in a quasi judicial. quasi-judicial function and acts as the court for that particular item and determines the applicability of the law in individual circumstances.

29:57Speaker 3

Is that a state?

29:59 – 31:09Speaker 2

organization the board of no it's it's our local folks who is that who is it um just it's a board like you guys um that uh they look at specific like they got called in just for that are they regularly okay yeah it doesn't happen very often it happens who are they we probably have a list somewhere yeah we've got a list have they never been used i'm just we use them maybe once every other month or so Oh, really? That often? Yeah. That's often. Yeah, that's pretty often. And those are for things called variances, which means that the code, as strictly applied, causes undue hardship on a particular property owner or applicant. And the Board of Adjustment is there to help as a relief valve for that strict interpretation and application of the code, which causes this undue hardship. So, again, if a decision is made by its staff or by you in accordance with the code and everything was done properly that way, there is a relief valve. And if that Board of Adjustment isn't agreed with, then they appeal to the courts.

31:09Speaker 3

Are those public noticed? I must not have the right button. I've just never seen one of those pop up in my email. So I'm going to go check my clicks on the state website and make sure I've checked with the Board of Adjustment.

31:20 – 32:43Speaker 2

I thought I was, but I'll check. They're interesting. As you can imagine, standard for approval of a Board of Adjustment decision is extremely high. You're asking for legal permission to not abide by the strict requirements of the code. It happens. If there are unique circumstances to your property that create a condition of undue hardship, then it's appropriate that we have a place for you to go and get redress for that. The common example is if you've got your... backyard drops off steeply and you can't build on it within the required setbacks. But if you got like a instead of a 25 foot setback, if you had a five foot setback, then you could feasibly build in this lot. That's not something you did. It's not something that you You know, it's not something that, it's not a condition that you created. God made the hill that way, and you just happened to get this lot that's kind of a bum lot. So in order for you to use the lot in a way that everyone else gets to use their lot, that was actually a specific example from Pleasant View where there was that exact circumstance. And the Board of Adjustment said, yeah, we'll relax this, and you'll get, instead of a 25-foot setback, we'll give you a 20, and that will be fine.

32:44 – 32:56Speaker 7

and that made sense or when you happen to strike oil on your property and you want to be able to harvest that planning zoning commission says no that's not allowed in your zone then

32:57 – 33:23Speaker 2

But these cases, they do come up and they make their way all the way through to the Supreme Court, either of Utah or of the United States even. And they make decisions. And there's a whole body of land use law that's based on judges' decisions and case law. And we all get to respond to that. Interesting.

33:23Speaker 7

Learn something new.

33:25Speaker 2

It's interesting stuff.

33:26 – 34:17Speaker 7

It's good conversations to have. I also think that we're lucky to have Bill and his position that the city created because Shelby and Nicole can't do it all, but we want to encourage what's best for the city and looking at opportunities to bring in sales tax through businesses or this micro entrepreneurship and things like that, that that is a decision that we can make here at this level. And Bill is always bringing us opportunities for that, ensuring that businesses can drive here and essentially reduce the property burden on the homeowners. We avoid becoming that bedroom community where we're always going out and spending our hard-earned money in other areas, and we can bring in some tax revenue here that benefits the city. So appreciate all you do. Thank you.

34:18Speaker 3

Thanks, Bill.

34:22Speaker 7

And the city staff and city council just appreciate you guys.

34:26 – 34:45Speaker 3

I was just thinking like, it's gotta be like, I don't know how your guys' shifts work, but I mean, some of those nights we were here till like 11. So do you get to leave early the next, like for reals, like how does that work with how you guys are compensated or scheduled when we're here late at night? Do you get paid more or is it you get to cut time out at a different time or are you hosed?

34:46Speaker 2

Most of them are on salary. So yes, but we do try to accommodate their schedule.

34:52Speaker 1

Yeah. So if I've got an appointment for an errand to run, then, I'll take a couple hours here and there just to try to make sure that the balance is there.

35:02Speaker 2

But I always try to just internally make sure the balance is in favor of the city.

35:06Speaker 3

Oh, I'm sure, Bill.

35:08Speaker 5

He's excited to come talk about chickens and horses at night. Roosters.

35:12Speaker 3

Every other week you guys are here two nights for the week and possibly late.

35:16Speaker 7

I just spend some time doing that. Thank you.

35:20 – 35:38Speaker 2

That feels nice to be acknowledged like that. I appreciate that. I've been doing this for 20 years and I was talking to a friend, two meetings a week times 20 years worth of, it's been a lot. A lot of time away from your house. It's been a lot.

35:38Speaker 3

It's like working a swing shift.

35:39Speaker 2

I've written probably 20,000 pages worth of staff reports over that time. It's been fun.

35:48 – 36:03Speaker 7

There's no way we could do this without all this hard work. I'm always in awe. How well prepared and organized everything is because it just makes it easier and it's a lot to learn. We're always learning something new. So I appreciate that conversation. For sure.

36:05Speaker 6

Thank you, Ed.

36:07Speaker 7

For sure. Thank you, Cameron. That was a good conversation.

36:12Speaker 3

No, I was just trying to figure out how to save the city some money and get rid of this meeting somehow, but it sounds like it's not going anywhere.

36:21Speaker 7

I think the city benefits from encouragement to.

36:26Speaker 3

No, it's a legit. I mean, because to me, like when we started, it makes more sense. Now, there's some things that don't go to the city council. But my initial understanding was everything we do goes to the city council.

36:35Speaker 5

So it's happening twice. I do think it seemed redundant for a buffer almost to kind of vet through to make sure we're actually walking through this. So it isn't just like a one time hit to city council.

36:43 – 37:00Speaker 3

And Bill's explanation, I think, makes the most sense. It gives people two times to hear it. Because people all the time, I mean, we see it, right? Get on and say, I had no idea this was happening. It's like, well, that's your fault, right? Like, there's no reason the public should know about something coming down the pipe because there's a lot going on.

37:03 – 37:34Speaker 7

Yes. And the noticing and everything has just been awesome. I've never once had anything, any issues or concerns with the noticing. I I get the notices. I don't know how people don't get the notices. But it's all in the eye of the beholder sometimes. We all do what we can. There is a very firm structure here that I think has a great foundation. I wouldn't be here without these city staff who are so dedicated. Jason, you have anything?

37:34 – 39:30Speaker 5

I do. I wanted to finish this before we jump into it. This is kind of going back to, I guess, the city staff and also, I guess, to city council a little bit. You made the comment, Bill, that we're not working on any data centers or anything in the city, and we're looking at that. Totally get it. It's a very hot topic right now. The question I have is, are we looking at what opportunities there are there? And I'm coming from a planning and zoning perspective. We don't have one in the city limits, but we have one in our backyard. And so at what point do we say, well, it's not us, we're not doing it, which is easy to say that at the other time, to say, look, this will directly impact us. Do we need to get more in the game and say, look at options where... You know, a build out of something like this could potentially offset some cost to infrastructure we're having to put in, or we just want to have more say in what's getting built literally backyard or front yard, whatever you want to call it. I just, it's really easy to say it's not us. And then don't get mad at me. But at the same time, I think if we don't have more input on that. We're going to get left with what's there. And even though they say it's not us, it's Tooele County doing it, it's going to be our thing to work around, not the county as a whole. And so they just had the UPDS permit. They went through that. It was a very lengthy public discussion. A lot of people are concerned. They were just approving that discharge permit at the time. That's all they could do. Similar to what we do, we can only approve zoning. But there's a lot more going on than what they had. People are concerned about the Great Salt Lake. I get it. Jordan Valley Water Conservancy District is pumping out a lot more water to the Great Salt Lake than what we would ever do even on this small project. But there's just that concern of saying, do we want to help be right on the bus and actually have a say? Or do we want to just watch and say, well, it's not us and we're looking at there? It's something we're looking at from my perspective. If we're planning for what we're trying to do for the city, it directly impacts us. But you're talking to Jared Hamner or whoever from the City Council or the County Council, but I mean, what level do we stay engaged or has there been any interest from the City Council to do more that way? I'm just curious.

39:30 – 40:16Speaker 4

Well, we're engaged with the County Council. We met with them last night. I'll report on that here in just a moment. Okay. Yeah, I think a proactive approach in those regards with data center build outs are important. But just like you just said, I mean, I hate to put our in their jurisdiction not in ours right so i guess the question remains is would we want to control it and have it in within our city limits i i think you know i i would think probably not um so i don't know yeah yeah i mean we're we're definitely talking with them all the time i know that Mayor Hammond and our city manager are constantly in communication with that.

40:16 – 41:06Speaker 5

One of the things I see is there's something like picking on debt. I'm not trying to say we have one or not, but there's so much money there and they're looking at that. I know right now there's over 40 bills that are getting kind of worked on right now for this next legislative session from the state. Some of that's intended to control. A lot of that is what kind of perks are you going to bring rather than just say we're going to build this? What can we give to the community to actually build it up? So that's where infrastructure different things come in, but I My biggest worry is that we that we don't do anything and say it's our problem. And then we have a problem. So anyway, that's all. I think we're trying to be proactive from multiple levels. Great. I hope we are because I think those are that moment of influence is now not it's not going to be a once it's I actually think our, our relationship with the county is as good as it's ever been. That's good to hear. I'm asking because I don't know.

41:06Speaker 7

Thank you for that.

41:11 – 41:42Speaker 7

We're so lucky to have somebody so knowledgeable about water and regulations and that type of thing here. Also, Jason, it's awesome that you're here. I'm glad to hear that the relationship with the county is really strong and that that'll help those conversations to ensure that any mitigation impacts that Grantsville might see is being addressed up front. Thank you. Okay. I don't have anything you guys are... Do you have anything else, Kim?

41:42 – 42:02Speaker 5

No, I do not. I'll just reiterate, and I think we already kind of said it, but I really appreciate city council and all the city staff, because I literally, the more I read about stuff and what's going on, there's a lot that you guys do behind the scenes that doesn't get recognized here or anywhere that is done, and you don't get paid enough for all the work you're doing, I'd say. And the mayor. And the mayor. Wherever she went.

42:02 – 42:15Speaker 7

She was here a minute. She was on my side. Politicking. That's all. Okay. Okay. We will go ahead and close that item and move on to agenda item six, the report from city council.

42:17 – 44:21Speaker 4

So we have not met as a city council since our last meeting tomorrow. Tomorrow is just strictly truth and taxation meeting. And so that's looking forward to that and hearing the public and their comments on that and have a discussion about that. So in regards to We talked about the county. We met with the county. We attended a growth summit yesterday. And the Utah Department of Energy was there giving us a presentation. And I had a thought there. And then just to follow up with it today, it might be good for us to have a combined work session between the city council and the planning and zoning and invite maybe one of the presenters. And I'll just look back at Michael. And see if they could come. We do have five Tuesdays or five Wednesdays in September. And more often times than not, we try to do some sort of educational or something that will move the needle for us, work meeting on that last week of the month. And so... I'll just, you know, we don't need to decide today, but we can maybe pencil it in and maybe see if they can come give us a presentation on what a nuclear lifecycle innovation campus looks like. And I think it's pretty Pretty noteworthy for members of the planning and zoning to understand what that looks like and members of staff and potentially other members of the city council. So. I would really like that. And it's pretty, it's fascinating number 1, you know, coming from the background that I come from, but number 2, it's going to affect our. Our county, if it if it goes through, and if you read the transcript, you saw the, the article. that we were one of five states that were selected as the finalists to receive that. So they feel pretty confident.

44:21Speaker 5

I'm hearing word on the street, too, as they're saying, even if we're not selected as the primary, there will be something here, is what we're hearing, is what the word is kind of floating around.

44:29Speaker 4

Well, we already have something here. We have disposal.

44:31Speaker 5

Well, I'm saying there's going to be more than that. There will be some kind of satellite structure here if it's not the primary. Which would be great. Like a secondary. So it's not if, but when, how much. But that would be awesome.

44:41 – 44:52Speaker 3

I would support it. Yeah, pretty much. Pretty fascinating. I think it was just interesting what happened. I was trying to get rid of all meetings and Rhett just added one. I was thinking the same thing when you were up there talking.

44:52 – 45:15Speaker 4

I was like, here I go. That sounds fascinating. That'll be cool. I think it would be important for members, especially if we have new members, which we should have. We should have a new member. We're hoping by not tomorrow, but the next council meeting. So by the first meeting in September, we should have another. member and have a full quorum.

45:16Speaker 7

That's great things. I'd surely be interested in attending the work meeting and learning more about that.

45:22 – 45:35Speaker 4

So, Michael, if you could call Emmy and see if she or anyone on her team could come and present. I think it would be important to have, you know, notice it and have the public hear as well so they can listen.

45:36Speaker 7

Yeah. I like that.

45:38Speaker 4

It would be a step in the right direction.

45:41Speaker 7

That's a great idea. Tuesday or Wednesday, either one of those.

45:44Speaker 4

Yep, the 29th or the 30th of September is kind of when I got circled. Sorry, staff.

45:49Speaker 1

It's all right.

45:52Speaker 4

Another weeknight away from your family.

45:53 – 46:29Speaker 7

We just can't control the brilliance in this. Okay, cool. Brett, is there anything else? Thank you. Appreciate your work and your thoroughness. I love that. Okay, we will close agenda item six, and if there is no further business, I will entertain a motion to adjourn. I motion to adjourn. Second. Okay. All in favor? Aye. Thank you, gentlemen. Very good. Almost made it, but great conversation.

46:29Speaker 5

747. That's all right.

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