Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

He likely won't get here. He's dealing with a car broke out on the side of the road that his son had a small issue with. And then Jeff is coming from the mosquito abatement meeting as soon as he's finished.

Um, welcome everybody. This is a combined work meeting of the Grantsville City Council and the Planning Commission. For the record, today's date is April 14th, 2026, and the time is 7:02 p.m. This meeting is being held at the Grantsville City Council Chambers at 429 East Main Street, Grantsville, Utah, as well as electronically by Zoom. I am Mayor Heidi Hammond, and I will conduct a roll call. Council Member Thomas is not here at the moment. We will um add his name if he is able to arrive. Council member Williams is excused for the first half hour as he is attending another meeting. Council member Butler

present. Council member Dalton here. Council member Skinner here. Planning Commission Chair Moore here. Uh Commissioner Hill here. Commissioner Montgomery here. Commissioner Merrill here. Commissioner Molton here. Alternate Commissioner Horox not present. Um, if you would please join me in the pledge of allegiance.

I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. The purpose of tonight's meeting is to hear presentations regarding the Grantsville City master plan and the proposed amendments to the park and transportation capital facilities plans impact fee facilities plans and the impact fee analysis. These are only presentation and discussion and no formal action will be made tonight or public comment taken. Uh, agenda item number one is a discussion regarding the Grantsville City Master Transportation Plan, including current conditions, future transportation needs, and potential improvements.

Thank you. I'm assuming that's my I think that's your cue. Yes. I'm going to move these tall chairs so I can see everybody. Um, are you wanting to plug in? Yes. You want to sit down and plug in or do you want to plug in? Um, yeah, I'll stand up there. Actually, that's probably easier.

Planning Commission, you get to see my good side. Uh, council, you get to see my bad side. So, um, okay. First off, I'll go ahead and introduce myself. Um, I apologize. My counterpart that's norm normally with me, we got double booked tonight, so he's in Helper City tonight. Um, I got to draw the good straw and come to Grantsville. Um, I'm a clean farmer with Jones and Deville Engineering. We used to have an office in Tilla. We did close that office because we couldn't find anybody to to sit in it. Um, but we do still do a lot of work up here for Grantsville, Toilla County, um, Toilla City, and other municipalities. Um, I'm out of our headquarter office, which is in Richfield, um, Utah, down in central Utah, but we serve basically everywhere in in Utah, some in Colorado, and some in Idaho as well. Um we've been working on this transportation plan for the past about eight months. Um working through the model. The model is pretty intense here in the Twilla Tilla Valley. Um just to give you some background on myself and the work that we've done here, I did the Twilla County transportation master plan. We partnered with Methods Consulting on this one as well as the Toilla Valley um transportation plan and then we um Methods Consulting did your West Bank study and that's who we used for the modeling piece of this study as well. Um so to give you some background, we started this study with data collection. We worked with UDOT. UD do just finished up their regional transportation plan here in the Twilla Valley as well. So, we used that as our basis to start with

the planning process. Um, and I'm going to get into a little bit more detail on that here in a few minutes. I apologize. It's been really windy in Richfield, so I my allergies have kicked up, so I'll be taking some water breaks here here and there. Um, so long long story short, we did data collection. We brought all the data that we got and brought it into a single spot. We then took and added our traffic counts that we did. You probably saw some tubes throughout the city last year um across the roads. As you drove over those tubes, we counted each vehicle. We also classified each vehicle. So, we got the truck percentage that you guys um have on each road on the major roads. We didn't do every road. Um we also collected um pavement condition um of each road. And I'll show you the condition of each road here in a minute as well. And then we helped public works with a pavement plan for how to get your roads in better condition. I have that as well tonight to show you as well. Um the bulk of the work that we did though was in the modeling and what happens in the years 2035, 204, 2045 and at full buildout. Um so I'm going to go through each one of these maps. This is the website that we created for you so you have a place to house your transportation plan. Um so I'm going to I'm going to use this as the bulk of my presentation tonight. Um for the planning commission as well. This is an open discussion um with the council with planning commission. So if there are any questions just interrupt me um if somebody wouldn't mind if you guys just yell um so I can stop I won't be able to see you as well. Um so

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you're good. Any questions before we start? Okay. All right. So, the website, and this is going to be available for the public. I will say we're going to hold a public openhouse in two weeks. I just put a poster up here in the front office. Um, we emailed Shelby. Did you get that email today? We emailed Shelby a flyer to post on Facebook. And then we also have a um a poster in the library as well to advertise that. Um, so the public openhouse will be held in two weeks. There's QR codes on the posters that you can access this website with. You can view it on your phone. It's not as user friendly on a phone. I will say that it's a lot easier to use on a computer itself. Um, but starting with project overview, I won't read all of this. You guys can go through and read this um on your own, but basically it talks about the need for the study. gives a little bit of an overview of Grantsville itself and talking about the growth concerns and challenges that Grantsville is seeing currently. The next tab is your socioeconomic data. Now, I have to put a caveat on this data. Um, because the census was done in 2020, this data is going to be quite a bit off. The reason being is we saw a lot of inflation from 2020 to 2026. Um so you'll see like uh median home value that's probably a little low. Um as well as some of the incomes and the population data here as well. Um the reason we don't put anything other than the census data on here is those are

just projections. Um, and so we we we put this data in here as our base. Um, but we when we're doing the travel demand modeling that we do for the study, we don't use this data. We use um data from the U of actually on current population statistics. All right. This is the bulk of the conversation today. So, what I would like to do is go through each one of these maps um with you. I'm going to breeze over these maps quickly and then we're going to come back and get into the fine details of each map itself. Um so, the roadway classification network um this is the classification of roads within the city. So the left hand side shows the current classification. So you'll see on the left hand side there's not a lot of roads that are colored. Uh each color means a different thing. So like your red lines are your highways, green are your minor arterials. So sometimes those are highways as well. Uh the purple are major collectors. Those are typically city streets that have high volumes. The yellow roads are minor collectors. So those come just under major collectors and then the black are local roads. Um the orange are um or expressways. Those are more like your your freeway type roads as well. So you can see on the left hand side that's your current road network. On the right hand side uh we're showing what the full buildout would look like um for the city. This does not include local roads.

We don't plan for every street within the city. We simply show the type of road that needs to go in to get traffic to go in and throughout the city and then we allow build out between those roads itself. I'm going to come back to this map. This is probably the bulk of what we'll talk about today and the questions that I have for the council and the planning commission. Um, but I will I'll come back to this map here in a minute. Could we could we just pause for just a second? Can you guys all see that? Okay. Do you want us to move that? Grab that. Shift it over. Do these Do you guys have screens?

We all have screens. Oh, okay. But everyone in the gallery now your neck won't be this is this proposal we have here on the right is that at 2050 or what year yeah 2050 it's not sharing on the okay zoom meeting do I need to do I need to log into Zoom um not typically but it's not sharing on the Zoom meeting person why that would Is there any way you could like X out of the legend just really quick on your end and just

There you go. I think that was kind of helpful. Just right. I tried that and that out. I'm just gonna try something really quick. Okay.

This website Well, it's not sharing his screen to Zoom and the people online if anybody's online. So, I'm trying to get it to I can log in as well if I need to. Do you would you mind and then that way I know it will work. Can you just send me the link? Yeah. Okay. We need to notify that um council member Williams has joined us. Thank you. Thank you.

Um, do you just want to scan that short code? There's that's all the While they're working through some of these technical things, I thought I might give you a little bit of background from a land use standpoint as to how this all plays in together. And and um there are assumptions that are made with regard to the data that um you start with the the base population numbers and then you try to So you try to project out. Thank you.

That was my voice like 20 million times. That was cool.

Um you try to project out based on the anticipated growth, the um growth patterns and the current zoning as well as what uh could go in in those areas. We look at areas that are in the annexation plan. We look at areas that are nearby adjacent development and we try to put numbers to those things that um are both in keeping with what we've seen historically but also with uh what we're going to project out for the next 20 30 50 100 years. None of us has a crystal ball obviously uh so we don't know exactly how and when these developments are going to come in and when this would fill in but uh the the conventional thinking is that if we don't ask for the right of way now when it comes time to develop out these areas and we need that right of way if we haven't asked for it it will never be there um I started work in Saratoga Springs almost 20 years ago and you would not have known 20 years ago what a mess it would be like in Saratoga Springs 20 years later. The roads that were in however uh on the plans then included some areas that had 180 foot rideways. We're not asking for anything near that much here. Well, except for one road um which uh MLAN we'll get into. But um I just bring that up as a case study to point out that uh we're doing the best we can here and trying to plan for and project out where what these roads will need to look like and what network we're going to want to see for the next hundred years or or more. Um there are roads as you know historically that have been in place for thousands of years. The Romans were great road builders and a lot of their

roads are still in use today obviously with repavement and other things. So, um just wanting to give you that context uh from a a land use standpoint and from a a transportation master plan perspective. This is where we're headed with these things and um so to turn it back over to you. Perfect. Thank you.

Okay. Um, this next tab, I'm going to breeze over these next three because they're um relatively um they're important but not as important for tonight's discussion. Let's see if I can get it to load. Okay. So, this next uh page that you see on the website is the roadway surface type map. So, we have asphalt, gravel, and dirt. This is how your UD do funds are allocated to the city for your uh SE road funding. So, your pave roads get a certain amount of money, your gravel roads get a certain amount of money, and then your dirt roads get a certain amount of money. We have pro provided the city with an update. So they can send that to UD do and get the most money they can get based on the current road mileage within the city. This next map is a average daily traffic map. So each of these blue dots that you see on the screen you can click on. This is where we put a traffic counter down with those two tubes that go across the roads. Um so the ADT is the average daily traffic. The AD weekday is the average daily traffic on the weekday. Um, then you can scroll down to the bottom and you can see all of your percentages of the types of vehicles that you're seeing on that road. So, for example, this passenger vehicle, you have 91% of those are passenger vehicles on that road. Um and then your heavy trucks um down here are

3% of that total. So for each of those points, you can click on those. You can see the same data for those. And this is how we calibrated the model. So UD do has a regionwide model and we use this data to calibrate the model itself. So we make sure we have current data as a base point to start with the modeling piece. Can you go back to that? I'm sorry. Now I see the the legend there. Just kind of clear off those two. See that? Yeah. Straighten your Yeah.

So main is obviously the heaviest travel. So you're not showing sheep. That's not I think it's the red one. Yeah, that's the red one. Which one was that? She blamed Oh, that one has 6700 vehicles on it during the weekday and just just over 5,000 average. What is Main Street on the We didn't do Main Street on the U dot right away because you're not over that. But on the west side, you are 2000. Yeah.

And you can click on each of these points to see. Is that Dery? The one that's Yeah. Dery Street. So Dery East is the uh as the point. Oh, on this one. Yeah, this this question may come. You might be able to say just you're gonna answer it later, but yeah, as you look at this and your projections of what it's going to look like in the future, are you also giving recommendations on how the road should be constructed looking forward because obviously truck traffic is going to impact a road more, heavy traffic is going to impact the road more. Oh, you're talking like thicknesses, just how you build the road. So, if you're if you have more semi-tra, that's what tears up roads, not cars.

Yeah. And so I'm just wondering if that's going to be part of the projected plan. So is the city's planning for, hey, this road going to get higher use and it's going to increase on heavy truck traffic, but we need to make sure it's built to the correct standards. We need to redo it.

We don't specifically look at that. Um, we do look at the pavement condition and give you a treatment type to fix it. Um, but as far as the design of the road goes, that's that'll come when the design actually happens. When we do the pavement treatment type, we're estimating based on typical practice. So like if we do an overlay, we put 2 in on typically to help with the structure. But as far as the crosssections go, that's something that we talked about in our last meeting. Typically there's an ongoing um project after this to update those standards for the crosssections itself.

Okay. Just out of curiosity, does anybody from the city happen to know that the traffic counts for Main Street? Yeah, if you give me Okay. I just was cur I'm just curious. Okay. I can pull that up. This might be old, but like 18,000 cards per day. 18,000. Okay. Might be a little bit outdated, but it's at least that. And I would guess Mormon Trail and Maine are the heaviest truck in the country. I would think so. I don't know. The truck traffic would be pretty intense on Sheep Lane as well. I would

I would think maybe It's going to take a minute to load. So, the last count on the east side was 11,000. A lot of times we find these counts are not that accurate.

Yeah, 11,000 is what it's showing. You know when they did those counts? Um, this one's saying 2024. I'm just seeing they're different on the east side. The same line. Yeah, the east side see lower than that. Yeah, this is not right. Yeah. So, the problem with some of you do's data is the KMZ file they use sometimes doesn't get updated clearly.

So, I cuz if if she plans getting 6,000, that highway is probably getting at least 12, I would think. Um, yeah, thank you.

So, there's a there's a gap there. This says 6,000 right there, and this says 12. So, okay. Okay. This one I'll breeze over. This is a heat map for Grantsville. This takes all the state crash data and puts it into hotspots. So, for the city, you can take this, you can zoom in and see all the hot spots within the city. Of course, 90% of your crashes are going to probably be on the the main street, but you can see all the smaller crashes or smaller heat marks around the city as well. There's maybe a bad intersection there at Dery Street. Um,

we have picked these and we didn't need you to tell us.

Probably high school's probably high. Yep. So, you can see all the little hot spots um throughout the city. Um, I will say these are only reported crashes. So if they're not reported to the state, they're not part of this data. Um, this is your active transportation map. All we did simply on this one is we took your current active transportation plan that you have and put it on the website. So we had no part in determining where these trails go. Um, truck routes. Uh, this is a truck route map. Um, I will say we are going to add the depot road on the south end of the city on this. Um, but this is what we've came up with for a truck route map. Does anybody have any comments or concerns about this one? Um, I would think that Burmeister would maybe be on included in that, but maybe I mean I didn't look closely at what you showed as truck traffic on Burmeister, but

it was about three. The hard part with Burmeister right now is that turn to get out of the city. Um, once that's fixed, it's going to go up. Um, or if that ever gets fixed, I should say. We as staff requested to pull Burmeister off because of that turn. Okay. Um, so I mean from So you don't want it listed as truck traffic. Got it. So I mean from Industrial Parkway north, new truck traffic, but we don't want them coming south into town that direction. That way. Okay. Um, but one road that we did want to add is that North Army Depot road. Yeah. This one, right? Yeah. Okay.

Okay. Um, Let me show you this really quick. So part of the study was also looking at current conditions of the streets within Grantsville City. Um so we partnered with a company called Violytics. They're an AI company based out of Germany. They're backed by Volkswagen. That's where their startup money came from. Um, but what we do is we mount a a phone in the windshield of a car. Um, and it takes a picture every 10 ft. And what it's doing as it's going down the road, it's picking up every crack and every pothole, every different type of distress within that picture. And every picture gets rated and then those pictures combine into a segment. And each segment gets a segment score. So what I'm showing you today is not me telling you this is what condition your roads are in. This is an unbiased opinion on the condition of the roads within Gransville. So based on that assessment that we did, these are the conditions of your oats. So the more blue it is, the better it is. Then it goes to green, then it goes to more like a yellowish, then a orange, and then a red. So your roads are actually in pretty pretty decent shape. Um, I'm going to pull up the the app so we can zoom in on these a little better.

So this app the city staff has access to as well. We just onboarded the city to be able to use the system in house as well. Um but each one of these streets has a condition to it. Um city staff has access to all the image data that was collected as well. So, they can come in here and you can drive down the street just like you would Google Earth um with an updated image. City staff also has um all of the manholes, all the signs within the city. So, I'll turn those on. They have all the signage. We have all of the different issues with signs. So, for example, I can filter out hidden signs and click on that. It will show me a picture and show trees in front of those um signs. So, I can go trim trees and stuff like that as well. Um this is all automated simply by just driving the road and uploading images and then it pops out into this system. So, we took this data and we said, "Okay, what is it going to take to get the roads to stay in good condition first and then fix the ones that are in poor condition?" So, you can see on the map here the different treatment types. Um, there's a lot of different treatment types here. So, there's a lot of different colors. Um, but there's mill and fill and overlay. Those are roads that are in fair condition that just need a rehab to them. Um, crack seal. Um, those are roads that are in good condition. We just want to make sure we seal those

cracks off from uh allowing water to penetrate into the base. Um, crack seal and chip seal. those those are roads that are in good condition but have their existing surface asphalt surface exposed because we don't want the sun to bake the asphalt out of the asphalt mix. Um the red roads are those that are in the worst shape and need the most help. Um so we're recommending those to be fully reconstructed um to mitigate for all the cracking within those streets. So for example, anybody want to look at a certain road.

It can be the one you live on if you want. This is unbiased. So willow street. Okay. You got to guide me there. Right. Yep. Right. Okay. doing stuff. So you can see right there. This one. Mhm.

So the city staff can come in. They and we can give access to really anybody. It's just depending on who you want to see this data. Um, we can go drive the road and see. This is only a couple weeks old, if that. Yeah, a couple days.

So, you can see the patching, some of the patching that's gone on. Um, there's some potholes cracking. You can zoom in and see um some of the longitudinal. Looks like there was a trench cut. Um and then you can go in and see all of the manholes itself on that road and it will tell you if those manholes are low, even or too high. Um so those can go be fixed as well. Um so this this data is on the on the transportation plan simply more for information for the public to say okay these are the current conditions of the roads. the this is our plan to fix the roads. Um the hard part is convincing the public that you should keep your good roads in good condition and fix the bad roads when you get funding for that.

Yeah. Did uh the overlay get out to um highway 112 and shoot plane uh this one. Yeah. The one. Yeah. One east. That's one east southeast. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That y Yeah. Thank you.

Okay. This is where we get into um the phasing of the roads in order to take care of the traffic that's coming to Gransville as growth happens. So, we've got three phases that we split this into. So, phase one, um well, actually, let me let me show you this first. So, the right hand side is if we do nothing. The left hand side is if we do something. So, the right hand side shows if we don't do anything in by 2035. This is the condition of or the traffic condition within Grantsville. So the red means bad, yellow means moderate, green means good. So if we do nothing and let the city grow, these roads are going to be failing, meaning you're going to have bumperto-bumper traffic in those sections of road um at that year. If we add certain roads, which I'll show you here in a second, if we build the roads that we're proposing to be put in, then this is the condition of those roads on the left hand side. 2042, same thing. If we do nothing on the right hand side, this is what the condition of those roads are going to be as far as traffic goes. You can see some of these start to downgrade. But if we add the roads that we're proposing in on the left hand side, this is the condition that you're in. And same thing for the next one, 2050. And I could probably just skip to 2050 on most of these. Um, if we did nothing, basically all of the roads are failing that are high traffic roads. And then if we add the roads around the city and through the city,

we're looking like we're in pretty good shape except for one piece of Main Street. Um, which technically would have to go to seven lanes in order in order to fix that, which is going to be very hard because you have buildings on both sides. So what's a fail? What color is fail? Failing is red. Dark red. Hi. Could I make a comment and and I have ask you a question? Yeah. So many of the roads directly north of Grantsville that you have proposed there are not in Grantsville city limits. Are those plan county roads? Have you I mean you said you worked on the county plan. Yeah.

So I mean those are within our annexed boundary. Yes. We have not annexed officially that land into the city yet. So, and that is I guess my question is I mean that's all fine and dandy, but um that's not part of the city. Correct. Currently, they're not currently. Yes. Well, we're looking in the future. So, I I see that.

Let's say let's we're anticipating that annexation happening so that when it happens that you've planned for the traffic demand within the city or so. Okay. The other thing to note is 90% of these roads are only going to be built by developers, which I'll get into here in a minute as well. Um, some of these roads are going to be city roads, but the majority of them will be development driven. So, if developers don't develop or annex to develop within Grantsville City, a lot of these roads won't happen, nor will there need to be if the city doesn't grow. But this The anticipation is there will be growth within the city or annexed and then growth within the city that way.

What's the typical life of a new subdivision? So you design it for 20 years. Um but then you have to maintain it. So if you maintain it, it can last forever. If you don't maintain it, it'll go to gravel again. But

20 years is If you did nothing, 20 years is is where you'd be. Yeah. So, this tip list is your transportation improvement plan. So, the level of service over here looks at the congestion within the city. The transportation improvement plan is the roads that need to go in to fix the issues with congestion within within the city. So this coincides with what needs to happen by 2035 with the growth projections that are that are anticipated between now and 2035. So all the roads shown in yellow and red are those um roads that need to go in in order to provide adequate uh transportation access through the city. Um a lot of these Oh, come on. A lot of these are going to be developer related. For example, this these outer roads are all development driven. This northern piece is development driven. This uh this red road is development driven. These yellow roads are all road widening. So, a lot of these are UD do. So, this one's UD do. Um this one's U DOT. This might be a combination of uh city and county um and then some city widenings as well as well as county improvements too.

How much of that loop is actually existing right now? Uh which one? This the red loop basically. None of that. Yeah. What is that yellow line? Is that south? There's a portion of it that's existing. Part of it's not Green Street. Yes. Yes, there is a portion right in there. Yeah. Starting here, it's non-existent. Well, even even there, right there, that cross-section where your cursor just was, all that to the east to the east is all not non-existent as well. Willow Street. Yeah.

Till you get to Willow. Yeah. But this western piece, nothing's in that. So if we same thing on the next one, this is phase two going to 204 2042. So these are the roads. The black roads are the roads we just looked at. So the 2035 roads, 2042 roads are the ones in yellow and red. So, this little piece um just off of Maine would need to be widened by UDOT. And then the red roads would need to go in for adequate flow through the city.

And that that red road at the bottom, that's the depot road, correct? Okay.

Correct. Yep. And the last one, this is that full buildout, of course. Basically, the rest of those collector roads that we that are needed are shown here. The black roads are the ones that are in 2042 and 2035. If you click on each of these, which is this is a good segue into our next discussion. If you click on each of these, these this is the number of lanes that are needed for the model to or for the traffic to flow through the city. So a three lane section is one lane in each direction with a center turn lane. Two lanes is one lane in each direction. Five lanes is two lanes in both directions and one center turn lane. So if you click on each of these, you can click on them and see the total number of lanes required for the traffic to flow through the city. Um so the bulk of the discussion tonight, I'm going to bring up three specific locations that we need to talk about. So down here on the west side you have a heavy um density or we have a heavy density of arterial roads which are 108 ft wide um in this area. Based on the modeling we did, most of the roads in the city, basically all of the city roads only need to be three lanes or less. Um,

these green lines that we're showing are five lanes. Um, so my recommendation or the discussion tonight we need to discuss is do you want to continue to see all of these be five lane roads or do you anticipate or would you like to look at some of those being reduced to maybe a threelane corridor or a two-lane corridor? Um, so specifically, uh, Shelby, do you remember did we we discussed this one staying or was it this one?

Um, so Matt Canyon needs to stay Main Street, um, which is that one is one that, um, is variable, but you're never it's going to be difficult to get the rightway back. Yes. Because it's already shrunk down to two lanes in some areas, right? So maybe the road doesn't need to be built out to a five or seven lane road. But if we have that right away, we can always build wider later on. Later on, right?

And so that's why staff recommended to keep those um arterial or larger rideway widths. So in the event with the anticipated development going up there, we have the rightway widths. It's a purchase of private property back eminent domain to do the law of that eminent domain and I mean structures there then you're needing to tear down structures or things like that. So specifically so this one has to stay this green the M canyon. Yeah, I would say so.

Main Street, there's portions of that that neck down to 80 ft and then back up to 108 ft. So, there's sections of this one that kind of skinny up. Um, there's also a depot road that kind of loops all the way around. These two are a little bit close together to be both minor arterials. Um so it's really up to up for discussion on do you keep this high density of arterials in this area. Um the only the only thing that I would um you have to be careful with requiring too much right away on every street um because the modeling doesn't give you justification necessarily to have that wide of a rideway. Um it doesn't hurt to get wider rightways. Um, but there's there's a chance that you could a developer could come to you and say, "Hey, you required too much right away. You should you got to give it back to me or pay me for it." Um, so that's a discussion for the council and planning commission to have tonight. And I don't know is your is your city attorney that Yeah. Is that you? Um is that the case?

Yeah. So if we require larger ride ofways than then is necessary that would be considered a taking and we would need to compensate the developer for the required up size that we'd be looking for for a ride ofway. Right? So that's just one thing to consider tonight as we go. There's really three areas. There's this one and two others that I want to look at tonight. Um, with that, what's the minimum width of any of these roads? I think your smallest right away is 80. No, our smallest right away is 66. 66. Our max is

Yeah, I have some typical sections that we have drafted. Um, yeah. So, this is your 66 foot rideway. This is what it looks like. This is your 90 foot. So this is what your collector streets would look like. And then this is what the arterial looks like. So you have five lanes at full buildout with parking. What's the width of this one more time? Uh this is 108 ft. That what about was the 60?

Oh, this one's 90. And then uh 66. This one only 66.

You said that 108 was it five lane? But yes. So this picture is a little bit confusing because we cut it in half. Okay. So on the left hand side you're going to see if they don't build the full rideway all the way out. The right hand side is if they build it all the way out. So if they were to build both sides it would be mirrored on that side. Yep. Um,

and have you I guess ran this or coordinated who want to coordinate with you? Yes. Have you coordinated with them? Yeah. In regards to this, I guess the one question I would bring up is in coordinating with this like we have the Mid Valley Highway and then the other highways, are they actually talking possibly a freeway that could loop around all the way down? I don't know. Beat us. I don't think that's part of that. That's not part of their plan currently. Um that I'm aware of. We have the mid valley. This one

and talking with Travis Heron dot and working with Jeff debate that has been a discussion for Grantville itself. Quilla, yes, but not Grantsville on Mid Valley Highway in the long future may turn into a freeway, but they're not anticipating that Grantsville will need a freeway. So, jumping back to this. Um, there are I mean, can you go back to that purple line that you were just barely on uh to your left? This one

the dashed. Yes. Yeah. So, do we have homes in this area already that are not in Is that Walmart there? That Yes, that's Walmart. So, are there homes anywhere in that purple? No, there's like two homes to the east of it, but this is part of Sean Johnson's development. Okay. I'm talking more further um further south, like nowhere in there. Highlands, a bunch of town homes in there. Uh about where the green is, I think. Green and yellow, aren't there a bunch of top in here? No, there's not. There's still piece of that yellow green line.

Okay. So, nothing in in this area is built out. Northstar or Northstar Ranch. None of that is in here. Okay. I mean, it'll be a part of it, but Right. But not yet. This little grade out area, you can see this is your annex limits currently. Okay. So, that's where your city limits are right now. So, the towns are back down on the highway. That's Yeah, I mean Sun is right there, but you're still not that far out. Northstar Ranch is south of there, but you're still still even inside that yellow line right there. Yeah, they're one way.

I guess that gives us a little perspective of how far up the bench these three roads will be. I guess

originally um there's a couple options. We can leave it the way it is. Um knowing that the lane configuration is larger than what's needed. Um but there is that legal risk involved with that. Um, we can make a few changes to this. We talked about a few today in our meeting. Um, we can change some of these uh colors so that they're more in line with the lane configurations that are in the model that we got. Um, I guess those are the only two options there. basically switch the lane configuration to match up with the model itself with a skinnier rideway or leave it get a bigger ride ofway and only build the lane configuration that you need. That's always my recommendation is to get more of the rightway width. Now, even if you don't build out the full uh asphalt cross-section because in in 50 years or 100 years when you need the rightway, it's there and available. Not dissimilar to how our our current main street is right now. We have plenty of width right now to go out to five lanes if we needed to and if that day ever came. Um that's because our our forefathers had the the foresight to look at that and say this is going to be the main street. Let's make sure it's wide enough. So uh it can accommodate future growth. That's really what we're being tasked with anticipating right now.

Who maintains that no man's land in the meantime? I guess the city. Yeah, it doesn't probably get anything doesn't look pretty very good. I can see the future bearing, but also non-maintenance of all that rail that we ever use. And then your setbacks are off that wider rideway as well. So your houses are set back 30 ft from that 108t rideway line. Well, you're you're North Depot Road and you come on that southwest quadrant. How what is your elevation gain to get up on that? It's

And is there any talk for the council to annex that part of the county in our plan just approved it few weeks ago. So, we can't just go and annex land into requested has to be requested. So, well, just like with any any infrastructure project, if there are uh concerns like that, they'll have to be worked around and dealt with. These these lines aren't necessarily intended to be survey level accurate, per se. They're intended to be guidelines as development happens in the area. Um, this is the ask is that we anticipate

the need for these kinds of circulatory roadways. And if again, if we don't ask for it now, we can't ask for it later. Keep it wide. Yeah, I think we keep it wide. I mean, Sean Johnson's deal is going to be the same size as Grantsville. We only have one road pretty much that width, Main Street, maybe Dery in some spots or Clark, but I mean, we've seen how busy that is already. So, I think we keep it wide, especially on that West bench. Absolutely. give them to north south, you know, wide roads to use. Sounds great. Have you ever had a city say wish we had smaller roads? I doubt

the road crew does. Yeah. I'd like you to go, if you would please, to the 33rd Parkway, which I don't know if you're familiar with. Yes, that is my next area that I wanted to look at. Thank you. Um, this is one that we've had countless discussions on between Shelby, myself, and other staff. Um, so this alignment from Mid Valley Highway to about the triangle probably honestly probably to here because we're vested, right?

Yeah. So I mean in the for Lake View business Business Park in the master development agreement, it's showing and outlines that Mid Valley Highway or 33rd Parkway will run to the north of them. But the county right now um has right away obtained where that triangle spot is to the east where it says Lake View. Yeah. No, this one up a little bit. The triangle right here. That's the rail track. They have it up. This is where they have the right that's where their rightway that they've purchased ends. Correct. Okay.

And then Huntsman's, that's this piece. Um Romney's Rom Romney's sorry. Romney's group from here to here is I don't know where property lands are exactly. All right. Um to the west. Is it somewhere in there? There. Yeah. Um so there their group basically um talking to Shelby. It is vested with the road being on the north side. Mhm.

There is I would like to see this connecting to [ __ ] only because [ __ ] can actually go all the way through. Um whereas uh Dery Street gets cut off. But there are well the other issue with Dery Street is aligning these two intersections is going to prove difficult as far as a design goes. We had it we had it lined up before and we changed it. So Oh, you had it you had Yeah, we had it like that and Udoth wanted a perpendicular intersection

intersection right there. So that's why it goes up. That's why it got changed. Yep. Um, so to line those two up, it's possible, but there's some property is still there. It's just it's just sitting there. Yeah. To make those line up as you're discussing, but to make them a 90 degree intersection, that's going to be impossible. That's going to be hard. Yeah.

Which is what you do will most likely require. Something we discussed in the meeting today was potentially coming once you get to this point coming down crossing over following this dirt road and possibly connecting in here with 33rd. Um or we can keep it on dury and somehow figure out that intersection. Um, those are really the two options that I wanted to talk about.

I I was I guess I'm confused. I thought that I understood that the Romney wouldn't allow 33rd Parkway to go through the Lake View Business Park, but we have the ability to take it. It's on the north you said of so in the master development agreement for Lake View business park their exhibits should 33rd Parkway and they reference that they get eight connections to 33rd Parkway to the north of their development.

So it needs to be reviewed and determined does 33rd Parkway go through? Is that what we want 33rd Parkway or do we want it to drop down to [ __ ] Green? We want it to connect into uh what is that? Keeps one of the biggest problems that you have though is crossing the tracks there and the tracks why right there at that triangle and it circles there are at least according to their plan. And so you're'll be crossing the tracks like three times right there or at least twice within a small window. They don't want to miss that. Are they going to bring it down this way? It's going to kind of circle. Yeah. So, we're going to cross it here. And then again,

I think you'll have to show him on the map because it kind of Shelby can get you their proposed plans on where they're putting their rail. This is a critical one. It is. It is critical

because part of this level of service map that we show here This is your current level of service map. You can already see Highway 112's failing. Um, and east side of Main Street's already failing. Currently, we don't add in that east west connection. That's only going to get worse. So you can see we have it. We have that 33rd Parkway coming in and that's what helps that highway one the highway 138. It helps decrease the traffic on that. But you're only crossing the rail twice. So where the little triangle rail area is, you're only crossing that portion of the rail. And then as long as you stay to the north of it, you don't cross it again.

So you're talking. So keep Yeah. So you would cross twice here and you can either come down and have it connect into here or we continue it and figure out going down there. But the rail splits here. So one two cross. So cross cross there at grade for now and then eventually it's going to be a bridge. You can either come down here and connect through or stay there.

From your from your experience, you talked about whether to go to Niger Street and I you got a little push for right for right angle intersections. Yeah. The cost to to re-engineer what we do there or taking property sounds like it'd be more complicated than trying to connect to N green. Is that what I'm about to say or I mean you can do it with the right amount of money, right? Like costwise it'd be more cost effective to tie connect this to my network.

Not necessarily cost effective. I'm more looking at it from a a grid network. So like instead if you connect in here, you're sending everybody down to this point and it's stopping. Whereas if you send people to here, they can go all the way around the city and literally loop the whole city itself on that one road. If it was up to you, what would you pick? I'm curious. From a consultant perspective,

I mean, from a from a traffic modeling perspective, the the Nag Green makes more sense, but there's politics involved as well. So yes, Jason, you're correct.

The other thing about Derky Street is that we have a bunch of existing residents, right? Where you get to night green, there are some but a lot less and it's more open country. So you can yeah do better planning and less impact to the street with res. You do have the school on N Green um which you can narrow down to a two-lane road through that piece and then widen back out to a to a threelane piece. Um but that you have a lot more flexibility with N green than you do on Dery itself.

Well, Dury is already one of the heaviest traffic roads right there. Yeah. Yep. So I can draw it coming down crossing over here. Or I mean if it's an option still it sounds like it's not an option to go through their property though, right? The politics we want to play. Okay.

I guess I'll leave the politics uh up to the politicians. Um, if you want to try and push it through their property, we can draw it like that. Or we can try drawing it through on the west side of their property coming down. What about right there? That triangle go back up coming off right there and just coming straight. You're you're perpendicular to right there. Right there. And then coming across. Yeah. Seems like only real option. Or we can leave it how it show.

Either way, McLean, it sounds like you got to do something with 112 and Dury connection regardless of where you make the 33rd connection on 112. Yeah. That close to Derby. It's going to just be a bottleneck. Can't believe there's not been more accidents right there on ve. Yeah. Knock on wood.

There was a death there while ago. It's a little hot spot, but not too not too bad. Any thoughts?

I'd like the night green. Bring it down. Bring it down. I agree. Okay. You were talking about the width of the road in front of the school affecting it is 90 ft currently. So, okay. It's already what we need it to be. Okay. So, that's that's done. But I also agree that dealing with that intersection of Dery Street crossing 112 is something that has to be probably going to happen. Yes. On the east side or the west side of 112. Yeah.

I I think that it just is going to need to cross in some whether it connects to the 33rd Parkway. I don't know. But I just think you're going to get a bottleneck of traffic of people trying to get to the 33rd Parkway from Dery Street. Right. Yeah. If a connection doesn't happen there, they would have to come up and then turn and come out, which would which isn't a crisis. I just know how our nature is to find the path of least resistance and and and the shortest path as the crow flies. And so we're going to I just can imagine that could be

What do you proposing a tunnel? Yes, I'd like a tunnel. A subway a subway starting an underpass. Could they do a right in right out on that coming in that side? So you would it would wouldn't be a full intersection, but it would allow people to access 112 right there without having to totally make it congested because you're not going to be able to have two intersections that are offset. You don't want to allow that. No, I'm surprised they've let it fly right out. That's an option as well. I mean, I you could do a large roundabout, too. I like that. That name was an offset geometry.

I knew that was coming. see a hot roundabout Europe five roundabouts in the city proposing that um what I'll do is I'll uh clean this up. I'll bring this down probably cross it um and then still show a connection connecting in. You have to cross it at the at the at this light at the signal sites that have already been established by UD do. Is that what you're trying to get to? Okay. You can't do it at any other spot now unless we amend our agreement with you do on what on the quarter agreement.

Okay. Is the purple approved? What's approved with you do right now? The intersection I think it is the personal channel that there by his mouse is approved. Yeah. two intersections that close. They're like half a mile apart, I think, is their rule.

Sorry, I'm just making a note really quick. Okay. Okay. Um, let's see. Shelby, was there one more? I think that was it. Was there one more? I think it's maybe answered, but just to the northwest where the two um arterial roads are fairly close together near the flux area. Oh, yes.

Did you already cover that? Yeah, they said keep the width and they'll build road within that width is what I was told. Yes. Okay. I think that makes good sense on the west bench. I down in that particular north area. I I mean those are really close together as they bottleneck down there. So I I'm not not sure about that particular spot. We could change like there. No, not there. I'm talking on the north east of east of 138. So through here right here. Yeah. But I mean, how far away are we talking? I don't know.

A mile, half mile thing. I don't think it's that. No. What if you What if you went to the south of those properties instead of going up and around them, you just stayed to the south of them? So it's a straight line. Can we do that or are these Where are you talking? So the the not the top green line, the one in So you're right. You see those developments how it juts up to the north of those and then it swings back down south. Yep. Yeah. We just go to the south of those properties and so it's a straight line all the way across. Then those two roads aren't so close. Yeah.

Yeah. There's a lot of there's a lot of property in there with structures on it. We tried to avoid those, but the best we could is the north green line the edge of that excession. No. Um, is that what pushes it south? because that's the north boundary there. No, your annexation limits are pretty wide. Um, the current city limit. Why does it come down right right there? That one on the north. Why doesn't it just straight into 130? Why doesn't it just go through here? No, the upper one.

This one? Yeah. Why is that down? Why does it come up to here? We're just trying to follow this property line. But I'm saying farther west. Why does it just go straight right? Why does it come down? There's a mine. If you keep going to the um west. Oh, you're saying why doesn't it just come like this? Yeah. All the way. We tried to line it up with this little mountain road.

I We can look at this area too and see if we can brainstorm how to get those separated a little bit more as well. If that more north line stayed straight like you were saying, I think you'd have more of a distance there. that road to the west. You said you tried to line up to it. If that's not that might be easier to move around than trying to get else above. I just go straight on that north green line back to the east. Just don't jog it down. Just go straight. Yeah. Okay.

Well, except as far as the desireette development, isn't that kind of a major cross point that it makes sense to have that in there? No. Little mountain. I think it's the lower one. This one. That one. Okay, you're right. Because there's Yes. Sorry. You're right. I'll push this one up so it's a little further away as well. Go straight.

Yeah. Through here. Okay. Okay. Any other questions on the classification network? now that I put you all all to sleep. Um so just for your information really there's a 50page report that really will put you to sleep that you can read. It will be online um that you can read. Um the PDF is not currently on there. We will be putting it on um today. Well, not today, tomorrow or Thursday. Um so there's that report. There is a document section in here that links you to all the municipal code pages within the city. So for planning and zoning, this is nice. They can pull this transportation plan up when they have projects coming and they can pull the code up from this website as well. We also have a 300page appendix with all the maps, hard copy maps, because the website technically isn't what you adopt adopt, but it's just a tool for you to use in house. um you're actually adopting the report with the appendix as well. Then we have a definition sheet. Um this is mostly for the public just going through some of the jargon that we use in the transportation plan. You can read through um each one of these definitions and see what we're talking about. Shelby, any other items you can think of or anybody else that wants to bring up anything that's a plan itself? We've been here for a while. I know. Any other

thoughts? Thank you. Any questions from council or the planning commission?

No. Melissa, we know this is a lot to digest and so that's why we wanted to give you a couple weeks to look through it before we had a a public meeting. Um be available to answer any questions that may come up and then um we'll uh we'll get this in front of you guys for adoption in the next little bit. So the plan is two weeks from now we'll do the public openhouse. We'll leave it open for two weeks after that for public comment. We'll get you all of the comments to look at if we get any. Um, and then we'll go through those comments, address them. Then it goes to public hearing at the planning commission level and then it will go they'll recommend to the council for adoption and then the the council will then adopt after that. How long was the last public?

Uh, unless your code requires that. Typically, no. But if your code does require it, then yes, you will. Okay. Um, was the last plan for traffic last 2021 was the last plan? 2022. 2022. tried amending it again in 2023 but that failed. So the kind of the draft that we talked about last year was this the draft that was preliminary or it was um done by Horox I believe um and it was just just in

Do you mine do you do any like overlay of uh sensitive lands on the proposed on the proposed? Yeah, like wetlands and stuff typically in this level of study. No. Okay. Um when we're looking at like a specific corridor we do, but we're looking super high level. We're strictly looking at traffic numbers, how to fix the issues with traffic, and then if you want to look at certain corridors, then we can look at that. But in this study, no to that one.

Thank you. I did forget one item. Um, so we did cost estimates, inflated them up to the year that they're anticipated to go in. This is a lot of money. Um, if you were to put every road within the city at full buildout, including developers, UD do county, and city, you're 835 million. Is that all? That's it. Trump change. Is that include like traffic lights? This is just roads. Oh, okay. Yeah, I didn't think so. That would double that, right? Not quite, but

Okay.

Um, so the city right now is only we only have you guys putting in responsible for half of depot. um the widening projects within the city that need to happen and then um I think that's it honestly the widenings and deeper road itself um the county is responsible for some you're teaming with the county on some of these so the county is responsible for about 145,000 or 145 million UDOT's responsible for about 125 5 million and then developers take the brunt of it at about 450 million. This also takes into account, I will say, the crosssections of the wider ride ofway being five lanes instead of three. So if you want us to take that down to three lanes, we can do that. So that'll decrease that cost a little bit. No, because it'll just make everything else red.

Yeah. Yeah. More red. So, the answer that question is no. Okay. I mean, we Sorry, but yeah, leave it there and we'll have to build as we can. That's all there is to it. Okay. Okay. That's all I have for you tonight. Thank you. Thank you. Did I close out? Any other comments from the council or commission?

Okay, we'll move on to agenda item number two, a discussion of proposed amendments to the parks and transportation capital facilities plans, impact fee facilities plans, and impact fee analysis for Grantsville City. You want me to plug in or are you able to share that PDF? Um, I can share the PDF. Yeah, that'll work. You want me to run with Sure. Okay.

So, I'm Robert Rousell with Enzyme Engineering. Annually, we uh amend the capital facility plan, impact facility plans, and impact Ve analysis. I'm sorry, that was me. Oh, sorry. I'm just trying to stretch it out on the screen, but Okay. Sorry. And uh an item of correction is we basically amended everything except for the transportation. So, we include parks, you know, drinking water, waste water, uh water ice acquisition, storm drainage.

I do not know why it's So maybe can we budget me? Thank you. Okay. So you take a five minute break. Yeah. I think Yeah, we'll take a five minute break. Technology break. A tech break. Yeah. Can't handle it. And then do I need to log into I think

I think that or is it a special

we use a separate phone. So yeah, how do I do that? Start deleting your own stuff. So he's a separate not should be good. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we provided these days to go to school bus.

Yeah. So like if you drive it and then it'll update automatically. I know it isn't the hard part. Yeah, the imagery's

big. It's hard to see. So, it'll catch it as patchy, but it won't catch it as red. showing up.

Good thing you get paid by the huh life cycle. That's good because I've always

Are you ready, Robert? truck by the hour. He doesn't care. No, we are we are hourly. In that case, we'll get started. So, our thought process, right? We're going to to go back into um our session of this meeting and continue our discussion with item number two. It appears the that we're ready. Order in the court. All right. Go go go ahead, Robert. Okay. Yeah. So, Robert Rousell with Enzy Engineering.

Yeah. We're we're basically looking at amendments to everything except for transportation. Once the transportation master plan is approved, then we'll we'll update and uh bring that for planning commission, city council. So, we do uh amend these annually. We did amend parks and transportation uh in January. It's when it was approved by city council. There was a few changes there just to bring the transportation impact fee down. And then parks we updated with like scenic slopes and a few other projects. So yeah, impact fees uh I won't read everything here, but help fund expansion of uh you know to accommodate future growth. Uh we met with city staff multiple times in December and then once we had a draft, you know, we we met a couple weeks ago. It takes 90 days before impact fees are approved by city council before they go into effect. And uh any developer funded projects, which you'll see some of those throughout here, are not impact eligible. We did utilize the demographics that we had updated for the 2026 sewer rates which was kind of a little bit lower of a projection uh for the next 10 years. Uh I mentioned there that you know typically the growth rate for Grantsville over the last 26 years has been four and a half to 5%. There was some spikes during the co years. What we do is we determine the capital improvement projects using the demographics and level of service uh for the various you know for water wastewater the other and parks. Uh and then we determine any non- capital improvement project costs such as interest expense for bonds uh existing capital assets professional expenses and then future debt service. As I mentioned, here's kind of the the

growth rate uh for the demographics uh section that we utilized. Starting off with like 3 and 12% for a couple years and then a 4% growth rate through the 10-year planning period. And then we look at different sub areas and and what this helps us with is projecting where growth's going to occur and where improvements are going to need to be made. This just summarizes the, you know, the residential growth rate, the commercial growth rate. That was another thing we did modify is we previously had used a growth rate, the same growth rate for residential as commercial, but looking back at previous building permits over the last, I believe it was five or six years. What we found was, you know, the commercial growth rate was hovering a little bit less or or at 1%. So, we've made that update move forward. We haven't changed for drinking water. We haven't changed the level of service. And this is based on for for indoor it's based on metered usage. We use state uh values for outdoor just because this change was made gosh in 2022 when we were having drought years and towards the end of the summer we were seeing more usage of city water for irrigation instead of grants irrigation company water. drinking water projects. We've got they're all kind of listed there. A lot of those you can see that are zero impact v eligible costs. Those are developer projects. The Bates well is currently being drilled. Northstar tank, we're just waiting for the [ __ ] Green water line to be finished so we can fill that. Uh so those u are projects that are currently being built. Northstar tank number one was needed previously for you know

growth and so it was previously impact v eligible and in older plans but now you know there's not enough capacity so it's no longer impact v eligible how many projects is that well and there's even more these are just ones we looked at is impact be eligible and yeah if you look in the like the main study you'll see them there I mean there's probably what 15 there we can count up. But yeah,

yeah, this shows kind even more. I guess there's 28 overall, but some of these I'll try to zoom in here. Some of these are replacements, you know, when you get in into the city, you know, just replacing a lot of the smaller lines with larger lines. The standards 8 inch diameter and this is just looking 10 years out. So they're, you know, like for Desireette for this development for example, we're really just showing kind of the backbone infrastructure. We anticipate the developer would be building kind of these interconnecting water lines and and then we don't anticipate they'll build like their zone 7 tank in the next 10 years. So there's a little bit of change in impact fees. They they do go up a little bit. We base them based on meter size for residential and then non-residential we use per fixure unit. And that's assuming and it's in the report that that uh you know the equivalent ERC is which is equivalent residential connection has 24 fixed units to basically get a cost for per fixture unit. And feel free to yeah just stop me if you have any questions as I go along.

Public safety we left the level of service that change there. I this wasn't in the packet but it is in the report. I kind of just threw it in here just to explain that what we did look at for public safety was when we calculate the fee, we went to a a dwelling unit or a unit for non-residential and we based it based on CAD calls from the police department to get a little bit more accurate of what the impact is for, for example, single family, multifamily, and non-residential. That was using 2025 data from the police department and we'll we'll continue to update that yearly as we get more data and the police department's now tracking that. So what we found out was you know single family you know there's basically 575 calls per per unit. Multif family is almost two and on residential two and a half. And I'll show you kind of where that comes into play. Oh skipped a bit too far. As far as capital improvement projects, one change that we did did do uh just because we don't have the need quite yet is we've kept the we've kept the cost in there for future satellite fire station, but we did not put it in for impact fee eligibility. Uh because we since we're amending this annually, you know, once we see the need, then we'll we'll add it back in. So, we're collecting impact fees. So, the impact fee eligible costs are actually the animal control shelter and then the justice center police expansion. This this just shows where we anticipate, you know, improvements to be made. We've

got a little note there that you know that actual project location will depend on you know how development occurs and here's the big change where I uh that I was mentioning. So it has gone down per dwelling unit for single family for example but has gone up for multi-unit and non-residential and that's just because there's more calls for those you know those land uses parks left level service same there four acres uh per thousand population we had to just to keep the impact fee balance positive there there just one year where it goes negative, which is fine. Um, but to to keep it positive, we did adjust some of these dates. Uh, let's see. So, like the just the phases on Scenic Slopes Park and then President's Park, we moved those out. Kind of looked at, okay, well, when realistically is President's Park going to be like 60% developed and and adjusted that date accordingly. And then here kind of shows all the projected parks in red. And so that caused it to go down slightly from what it was previously. Wastewater. We've kind of go over gone over this in nauseium with with city council meetings, but uh the big one is the you know the treatment plant. So we've got that in here. And then there's the upsize of the West Bank interceptor, you know, segments one and two. And then the Northwest lift station, which will occur kind of in conjunction with the uh treatment plant, just upsizing the force main to get a little bit more life out of that lift station. And then uh public works improvements,

we did push it out, you know, towards the end of the planning period. So yeah, you've probably seen this figure before, but it's just showing the kind of the West Bank interceptor, this line here, the uh Vegas Street Collector, and then the uh SR12 interceptor, which would be developer constructed and Southwest sewer line, and then there's obviously the the upgrades to the treatment plant. So this one did go up slightly. We uh because of the upsize we added you know for the West Bank interceptor we did pull previously we had like the Willow Street collector after looking at a little bit more detail that project wasn't needed so it was moved kind of outside of the 10-year planning period so it did go up a little bit. water rights uh pretty much stayed the same except for the uh multi-unit residential. We really what drives this is the current if if you can find the water rights the current water rights cost. So we're using 29,000 per irrigated acre. Uh, and the the difference here is just multi-unit residential just factoring in kind of the because we're using town homes as a as part of multi-unit residential and that means that waterite quantity is a little bit more. So that that has gone up just slightly. storm drainage. We don't, you know, the city does not charge impact fees for storm drainage because a lot of the storm drainage right now is developer constructed. If there's a you you can charge impact fees in the future if there's any more regional projects that are planned planned on and the city's paying for

those. So, here we've just listed the the storm drainage guidelines for the city right now. A lot of this is based on the West Bank interceptor or not the West Bank storm drain master plan. So the the city has constructed this Clark Street storm drain improvements project. There was a a grant for it. There's some future phases that are planned for this which would you know be a retention basin up higher in the the basin and then it's kind of turned sideways. But uh yeah, these are all the projects that were identified in the West Bank storm drainage master plan. And as I mentioned, storm drainage, they're not applicable just because they're really all the improvements thus far are constructed by developers directly. But if if that's something in the future the city wants to charge impact fees for, then it'd have to be looked at as more regional improvements. Impact fee comparisons. We look at we we kind of went over this last year, but we look at like a smaller 5,000 foot retail and then we compare them to not necessarily similar cities, but at least cities that have similar impact fees and kind of show you where the proposed and then existing, you know, Grantsville impact fees are. So, for example, you know, retail's gone up a little bit, and I think that was due more to the public safety, just the change in, you know, the costs per unit that drove that uh thousand square foot building that's gone down and that and that's kind of had the opposite. You know, we were basing

public for public safety, we're basing it on square footage previously and now we're basing it on units. So if you had a thousand or a million square foot warehouse for example and it just was one unit with one water service one you know sewer service then it would just be charged that one impact fee per per unit. Town homes, it's gone down slightly. Single family slightly gone down. Here is where where the city's kind of hidden about right in the middle of the comparison cities. And then apartments also gone down as well, I guess. Yeah. Are there any questions? Was there a slide and I missed it on? We talked about sewer bills. Water. I was worried about water bills. Water. I don't see it.

Water. Water. Yeah. So, there's water. This This is impact. So, this isn't the rates. There are rates in here. No, this is just this is impact. So, not the water rates. Okay.

Yes. Yeah. Any comments from I guess just my question would be is Is it a dance? We're dancing trying to compete with other cities to keep impact fees low or why not why not put a little buffer on there and make some extra. What what prevents us from doing that?

Yeah, I mean you try to try to stay I know I've I've listened to talks that developers have had right at conferences and that type of thing is you try to stay competitive. I mean, if you're charging too much, then you're just not going to see the growth. And then if you're charging, you know, too less, then you're not paying for the improvements you need. So, it's it is kind of a balance there. Uh really, we look at, you know, with our level of service, hey, what improvements are needed and then there's only so much we can do. We we're looking at a 10-year planning period. So, that's that's the ERC's, equivalent residential connections in that 10 years. And there's only so much we can can do there with those improvements.

The other challenge is too if we we get too crazy with it, the uh developers will notice that it's too crazy and they'll push back and and then all of this comes out and they'll say you're basing it off of not good data or good engineering. You're basing it off of a desire to have too much. And that opens up our impact piece challenge, legal challenge. and then we right back here giving it all over again. So we got to stay within a pretty narrow band of what's allowed. So there's law that governs what we can do. You just can't make something up. There's laws that are saying

that's the whole point of doing this study anyway. This impact fees are are one of those things that is just so heavily regulated and and rightfully so. I mean, no one wants to pay more than they have to, and this is a a cost that eventually gets pushed back onto homeowners um to pay. And uh yeah, does anybody else have any questions? the commission council. Are is the city looking at not waving fees as much now?

What are you referring to? Um I know that we've waved fees in the past and so with Cameron's concern um about maintaining a balance, I just Um, I just wonder are these static or are they fluid? Are they I think any impact fee is fluid, especially when it comes to commercial impact fees and you're in direct competition with municipalities, right? Waving fees for the keep the project going is common practice across multiple municipalities and not for years because you want to drive business, economic business growth. Yeah.

Residential and housing growth not probably not as much. But commercial and and waving and assisting or waving impact fees on commercial development, I I would still think that you would see that as a one-on-one. I mean, I don't think it's a it's a set. It's still on a case by case basis. Barry, go ahead. Oh, I was gonna Robert. I'll try my best. So, this is a 10-year window, right? Looking at the next 10 years. And so, next year, it's the next 10 years. And so, it's going to change. The next 10 years are going to change. So there has to be some Yeah. fluidity.

Yeah. And I've mentioned like for wastewater treatment, right? So the the plant like even though there's an impact fee now, like as long as that plant has capacity, excess capacity, you can charge buyins for that buyin fees. Y

and a lot of this data that's kind of why we went there with uh transfer transportation for example we're based like for non non-residential we're basing that based on their actual traffic study. So they they come in you know it it'll be reviewed by city staff you know the the transportation study and then that'll kind of dictate what their impact fees are. And we what we use on a lot of these is we we try to use specific city data to back up level of service. So it's it's specific to Grantsville.

Any other questions or comments? All right. Thank you, Robert. All right. Um with that, I need a motion to adjurnn. Mayor, I'll make a motion we adjurnn. Uh, we have a motion to adjurnn by council member Dalton. Is there a second? Second. And a second by council member Williams. All in favor? I. Thank you for uh MLAN and Robert. For your information, please. You were worried about that.

Couldn't find where I saw something. Yeah. Tomorrow.