City Council - Regular Meeting

Good evening everyone. I'll like to call the meeting to order. Please join me in the pledge and the invocation.

I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Please join me in prayer. Heavenly Father, we thank you for this gorgeous day. Just uh pray you be with us this evening as we do the city's business. Um thank you for all the many blessings that we've received in this community over the last year. Uh and uh we humbly ask and thank you for that. It's in Jesus name we pray. Amen.

Amen. Make a motion to approve tonight's agenda. Second. Second. Chris a second. All those in favor say I.

Motion carries. 5 Z. Item D. Rolling along here. CS comments. Is there anyone that would like to take three minutes to express any opinions or things? You're welcome to come forward. Karen Keely 928 Southland Circle. Okay, here it comes. Um, I need to say thank you to Ryan and Craig for their help with the bylaws and for listening to the comments and answering the questions uh that we had as advisory board members and putting that red stuff in the final copy. I appreciate that very much. And anybody else that help with that? Thank you.

Thank you, Karen. Thanks.

My name is Eric Brazil. I live at 419 North Oak. And I don't have much of a comment except a concern is what I got. Um, I'm seeing more and more of these little two-wheel scooters zipping around the streets. Uh, I don't know if there's any regulations on those. Uh, it's just like before I came to the meeting, I looked out and wanted to zip through the stop sign at third Oak Street. Uh, there's a lot of them that they drive to me. I mean, they go pretty good speed. I don't know if there's any regulation citywise to, you know, control them. I don't want to be, you know, a grouchy old man, but, you know, it to me it's a little dangerous when you see them zipping through the streets at the speed they go. No helmets, of course, that's not a regulation, I guess, but I'm just a concerned citizen as far as, you know, kids safety and, you know, if there is anything that needs to be done or could be done to kind of, you know, settled down a little bit. But but anyway, I can see, you know, some accidents happen. I'm surprised there hasn't been any yet, but it's just a concern I thought I'd bring. So,

thank you. Thank you.

Thank you, Ed. Amanda Chwell 410 Richard Road. Um I'm coming as the current chairperson of the governor senior systems advisory board. Um I do appreciate to echo what Karen said. I do appreciate the collaboration between um city staff and working with us to to edit the bywalls. um our main focus and at least my main focus um and I preach the same is just to maintain what has made our senior center so special and that is the collaboration and the joint team effort between all the volunteers. I really think without the volunteers we wouldn't have the senior center that we have today. Um and I don't think a lot of people realize what all goes into um creating that and running that and um all the stuff behind the scenes that has to be done for grant purposes and things like that. it is a lot. So, it's great when you have that extra support and team effort to be able to do that. Um, I understand that, um, you know, uh, there's processes to follow and we're completely on board with that. Um, we want that to be a welloiled machine as we continue to grow, but still maintain that the voices of our seniors are who we're here for and that their voices and their wishes and their um desires to to serve them is what should be our driving force um in whatever we decide to do going forward in the future. So, I do appreciate that collaboration um and continue to work with the city and I appreciate um being able to hire a full-time um director because I think that's going to help a lot. um be able to, you know, make sure that those rules are more defined. Um so I will continue to to be a good team partner and be able to um continue to

grow this. Um we are very much seen as a model um to other senior centers and other communities around and I want to be able to maintain that um and be able to share our success with others and share all the the ups and downs and trials that we went through so others can kind of learn from us as well. So I appreciate that. Thanks, Okay. Anyone else? If not, we'll go ahead and close citizen comments and move on. Conflict of interest declaration. This gives everybody an opportunity to identify any potential conflicts they might have had in conversations with people this week. We got no no. Five nos is no. So we're good on that. We have no appointments, recommendations, recognitions, nominations. Consent agenda. I'd entertain a motion to approve the consent agenda.

Make a motion to approve tonight's consent agenda. I second. Manda made the motion. Chris second. All those in favor say I. I. Motion carries. 5 Z. No unfinished business. I do business.

Our fine city attorney. Welcome to the show,

honorable mayor and council. Uh so I'm here to present all the new uh bylaws for the senior center advisory board. Uh we have reddrafted uh the senior center ordinance and bylaws to clarify the oversight and authority uh prior to hiring a new full-time senior center director. Uh the revisions confirmed that the senior center employees will report through the city's normal administrative structure. Uh the drafts also establish city council approval authority over the advisory board's bylaws. Uh the final versions keep core governance uh objectives in place while also clearly recognizing the board as a meaningful partner valuing its institutional knowledge, traditions and its leadership in developing and administering routine programs, events, outreach and services. uh key policy question is is basically how to preserve the advisory board's important role while keeping legal authority supervision finances operations with the city and I think what we have done with these uh revisions to the bylaws strike the necessary balance there uh ordinance makes clear that the board does not hire supervisor discipline employees enter contracts approve spending outside the budget process or run day-to-day operations. But at the same time, the drafts more strongly recognized the board's value uh through volunteer support, institutional knowledge, and collaboration on programming and services. Uh we've tried to respond directly to the board's concerns about transparency and continuity and and respect for their experience and uh input. Uh drafts provide for regular reporting on

expenditures, fundraising, grants, budget status with the chairperson receiving updates uh to share with the entire board. Uh the city will solicit board input during the recruitment of a new senior center director and as part of the director's annual performance evaluation. uh during the director vacancy the board may provide enhanced collaborative support on programming volunteers engagement communication but without personnel contracting or spending on board. So financial considerations there is no direct fiscal impact associated with adoption of a modified uh ordinance of bylaws. The revisions are governance and administrative in nature. To the extent final drafts provide for regular expenditure fundraising grant budget reporting to the advisory board. Those activities will be incorporated into normal staff administration of the senior center. and I agree to form. So, it's recommended that city council move to wave the reading of the ordinance. Move to adopt uh the ordinance and bylaws that are attached in your agenda.

Any questions? I just want to say that I appreciate all the work and all the parties involved. I think um we've had good dialogue. I think we're at a good point of understanding and I think we're ready to move forward now with a a new director. We'll face new challenges too as we go forward. And

thank you all for being willing to come to the table with the city and council. Um I know that wasn't easy and there was a lot to work through and so just across the board, thank you guys for making it happen and honestly making it pretty seamless. I will enter and enter entertain a recommendation to wave the reading of the ordinance if someone want to do that. I make a motion to move to w the reading of the ordinance. Chris has made a motion. A second. Amanda a second. So all those in favor say I. I. Motion carries 5. And I make a motion to move to adopt the ordinance and bylaws attached in exhibit B. And that'll just be a roll call.

Right. Chris has made the motion. We have a second. Second. Naomi seconds. Roll call. Council member Durk. Yes. Council member White. Yes. Council member Lee. Yes. Council member Hall. Yes. Council member. Yes. Very good. Thank you very much. 51. That's 1038. 1038. Yes. Item number two, public works director.

Two speeches in one day, right? This is taxing. Um, I come tonight. First off, I'd like to thank everybody for coming to the ground breaking today. That was uh I enjoyed having everybody there. It was very nice to see the outpouring that we had from the community and from our fellow employees and from council. Um it was it was great. It was a great time. So with that um we're going to talk about more buds facility uh items. So I'm coming tonight to seek approval to purchase the facility IT cameras, access control, and furniture. Um all these items are above recognized approval levels. So we need from the council get approval for these things. Um as it says there, we're getting closer to the building. Um, as everyone had seen, the dirt work has begun. Uh, they started that last week. So, we're moving along pretty quickly. Um, so we're needed to procure the furniture, uh, the IT and the security camera/ excess control for the building uh, at its completion. We been working to obtain these items for the building from from the freshwater to other items that are outside of the scope of Hutton's contract for procurement. Um, we've acquired bids from partners to imagine IT uh solutions, IT solutions as well as Pure Works Place Solutions. We have reached out to Midwest um B Solutions as well. Had some delays getting those bids back. Um, so we went ahead and move forward bringing this to council. Um, as you can see, the workplace solutions for furniture is $8,49467. Imagine it is $40,632.68 68 cents and LT solutions is $29,735. Um, you know, that's all for examples of the furniture. Um, this would be on your conference room and such. We're really excited because there will be um so much added benefit

to this building as far as like we'll be able to start doing our bid openings and our precons and things in our facility instead of taking council chambers constantly for those things. I know it's a little crowded uh during the week here and such. Um and they will also be able to hold their own trainings and things that nature plus have uh adequate office space for for the senior staff. Um so all these items I apologize I missed a slide in there. So all these items uh will be budgeted through uh the line item that's been acquired for the public works facility. So um you know and with that it's the the it is everything from the server rack um to making sure that our offices have the appropriate internet and such. Um you know like you said with the LT solutions that's access control only doing three access control points uh the two front doors and the back door. Uh it was going to cost too much to do each office and such. So we're we'll do kind of like here at city hall. Um and then of course as you see the furniture. So again, the cost associate fees procurements have the budget inside the funds for the new building. Um, so we're recommending to move forward with the authorization pure furniture from Pure Workplace Solutions for the $8,49467 IT services from Imagine IT for $40,632.68 and the cameras access control from LT solutions for $29,735. The new public works facility. Any questions? Are all of these totals within our scoped budget?

Yes. I believe even with these budget numbers, we're still coming in under what we originally thought. Correct?

Yeah. We're conservatively, so with some cushion, we're hoping to be about $600,000 under budget when this project is handed over to the city. So, um, we're on track for that today. So, I don't anticipate any change orders in a pre-engineered metal building, but crazier things have happened. So, we're one of the things we're really proud of is that we've been able to stick way well under budget. One other thing I'd add to Jason's comments, which he did an excellent job, a about twothirds of the cost for all of this is the labor to do it.

Yeah. So, like imagine it uh $30,000 of that or so is the cost for the labor. I negot negotiated that down a little bit over lunch with the imagine it people. So, a couple maybe a couple thousand dollars less than that. U but same thing goes for the furniture and the cameras and access control. It takes a ton of time to put all of this stuff in and put it together. So, most of it is labor cost, not act the actual cost of materials. And I just want to say I don't have any knowledge of Imagine it or LT solutions but um we have personally used Pure Workspace solutions um through our company and so um very impressed with the customer service, the quality of the material. So I definitely think they're worth the the money.

Any other questions or comments? Everybody's good on the ends. Make sure Okay, I'll entertain a motion to approve this. Yeah, I make a motion to move the to authorize the procurement furniture from Pure Workplace Solutions for $80,494.67 IT services from Imagine IT for $40,000 $40,632.68 6 and cameras access control from LT Solutions for $29,735 for the new public work facility.

I'll second. Chris has made a motion. Court seconds. All those in favor say I. I.

Motion carries 5. Thank you. long time see a couple weeks you're going to bring us a lot of things to look at you guys for bored so you know things going forward quiet so yeah build up yeah so this is I3 this is a review the draft district coming in for R22 family zoning this is there's no adoption today this is kind of receiving file trying to get the pulse of you guys, any comments you may have. We're hoping that this draft revision is kind of succinct and brings together the ideas and thoughts and concerns you guys have in a in a thoughtful manner. So, at any time interrupt and say, "Hey, you know, we want to see something else or maybe we want to move in a different direction if you guys have any thoughts or concerns about it, but I'm just going to read the background and keep moving forward." And like I said, there are only time. So, the city has been evaluating how to allow two family housing while protecting neighborhoods following a long-term appearance. Staff prepare a draft restrictive covenant, which you guys should see in your agenda packet. Covenant template for property seeking reszoning to two family residential. Uh the covenant is intended to add private land use restrictions that would run with the land. So, anytime somebody wants to reszone, they submit the application. We publish in the paper, take it to planning commission, take it to city council for final adoption. And then during that process, we would say, "Hey, here's a restrictive covenant and we would introduce it to the developer and say, if you want this zoning, you would have to adopt this restrictive covenant." We did the same thing with Trails End. They adopted a restrictive covenant that said you can't do more than 40% duplexes or 80 lots, whichever is less. And so they adopted that and it was recorded with registered deeds. We

have that on file both in house and with registered deeds. And so this would run in a similar way. would be like, "Hey, if you want this resoning, you really want the duplexes, there's a bunch of criteria here that you would have to follow and you would have to self-impose upon yourself with this restrict. It addresses percentage of lots that may contain two family structures. It includes requirements related to parkland, sidewalks, tree planting, design standards, architectural variety, building materials, facade design, garage dominance, accessory structures, and sound separation. uh any waiver, termination, modification, we require city consent and recorded with registered deeds. So just kind of like what you saw with Trails End, they came before you guys are like, "Hey, we want to do more than 80 lots and council as well within the right to say nope, we don't want to do that." And they have to abide by the 80 lot rule. Just like with this, if that was something that council wanted to see and it was imposed upon them, then if they wanted to change that or deviate in any way, they'd have to come back before council and say, "Hey, this is why we'd want to deviate and here's our justification for that deviation." So, this item as mentioned is for review discussion, comment only. There is no approval adoption of being requested at this time. Staff is seeking policy direction whether this covenant is appropriate to keep refining for future R2 zoning cases. Draft is intended to help ensure two family developments are built in a manner consistent with community expectations. Key draft requirements as mentioned is 40% cap on two family lots. Public park parcel sidewalks and three streets and two trees per lot. Covenant strongly emphasizes design quality including architectural variety spacing similar building types high quality materials varied roof lines facads and limits on garage dominance as mentioned before. Draft also includes non separation standards. The city review before permits are issued to confirm compliance because it is restrictive covenant be recorded against the property and by future owners insurers own commitments remain enforceable over time. So like I said it's self-imposed. It's recorded

with registered deeds. It doesn't go away and carries on and on and on and on added an item unless they come before you ask for some kind of change or modification or to be removed completely. But either way they can't just circum it once it's been adopted. Uh from a fiscal perspective and you know you've heard that from us before but it still remains true. Uh development efficiency and values per acre matter because the city maintain streets water line sewer lines storm water infra structure land use of greater density and single family during significantly more dollar value per acre while relying on a similar overall infrastructure plan suggesting that thoughtfully designed to family development can improve land efficiency and long-term fiscal productivity for community. Legal considerations a legal opinion will be requested private consideration for approval. So you see a draft for that. But do you guys have any thoughts, comments, concerns? You know, as mentioned, Craig is here, Ryan Shrek, Ryan Peek, Harland, anybody else that you might have comments or questions for regarding this particular item. I can start. Um, I just want to say like looking over this, I appreciate the the city taking the time to look at ways to address the two family home issues because we know builders are going to want to build and if we don't give them options that are feasible, they're going to go somewhere else. Um, I also understand that the draft that we've got was not passed by um the city attorney yet. So, there's some verbiage in there that I think still needs ironed out. But uh one question I had while you were talking is actually when it comes to the restrictive covenant would that get applied or excuse me would that come before planning commission at all or would it be solely up to the council to decide if they wanted to impose the restrictive cover?

Yeah, that's a good question. So basically we would inform developers upfront before they even considered a reasonzoning that this is coming. At the time we would say the planning commission we would recommend approval of the resoning with the restrictive covenant. Planning commission is going to make a recommendation that then gets presented to city council. Ultimately restrictive covenants and any zoning is in effect by city council. So you guys have ultimate authority to either approve restrictive covenant, approve the reszoning or not approve a restrictive covenant. It all completely relies on you. So ultimately there would be a review by planning commission but you guys have the final decision at that point. Okay. But I appreciate your description of it would be they would be aware of it ahead of time.

They would very much be aware of it you know so that's that's a good question. Planning commission would definitely see would say hey consider this resoning contingent upon a restrictive covenant as well. Um but the developer would be well aware that hey this is a restrictive covenant that's highly likely going to be in effect if you want to consider this resoning. When when the developers are buying land, they buy it contingent upon the land being being entitled for their intended intended use. So, they wouldn't close on the property until the zoning that they desired was passed and they would obviously know that this was going to accompany that. So, they would probably need to start including some kind of language referring to this in those um in their paperwork when they're purchasing the land as well. And the reason they do that is because they don't want to buy land and be stuck with land uh that they can't fit their business model on. Maybe their business model is 100% duplexes and now they got 80 acres that got denied for reasonzoning and now they're stuck with this land. So, um, yeah, they won't they won't close on approaching the property till the entitlements, which includes the zoning and the platting, etc. in some cases is approved.

And this can't be retroactive at all. It has to be on the on anything coming forward. Yes. Okay. Keep it.

Well, I'm it's no secret how I feel about design standards and quality of work and all of that kind of stuff. So, um, I I really appreciate these efforts on the um on the Oh, where is it? The the privacy between um between the housing, will that be inspected by the city? Like the you know the privacy wall between the two buildings. the sound barrier. Yes,

we're hoping we get a building inspector by the time any of these go into effect if they do go into effect. So, ideally, we would have the building inspector that would inspect that. That would be the plan. So, we're open to post that position, hire relatively expeditiously, use that individual, whoever they are, to enforce this regulation if the council deems it appropriate, it needs to be adopted. No, on the off chance that this is not possible like before we start this um logistically speaking that means MABCD sends out one of their inspectors, right? So they have to then follow our code. Correct. It's a gray area.

Yeah, that's a gray area because MABC is going to follow their code. Um, so if we wanted to follow additional inspection requirements, we would have to be very implicit about that and work directly with them. So ideally, we would want to have our own building inspector before that takes place. Um, because working with ABCD is kind of a hit and miss. Sometimes they're really responsive, sometimes they're not responsive at all. It'd be very difficult to say, "Hey, we want you to enforce XYZ." And they don't enforce XYZ, then it could be perceived as failure on the part of city staff. And so we have to be very careful about that. Um, so ideally we would want something in house that we would just I think it's really important to have our own inspector anyways for a multitude of reasons. This just being one of them, but

um, Councilwoman, can I add something to that? For one, we're going to be posting that position this week. And for two, if they don't build a project per the approved plans with under under these conditions, Micah or someone in community development is going to say going to check we're going to make them submit renderings or elevations to show that this is how we're going to build this to ensure it complies with the section about design standards which includes the sound absorption details that we included. So if MABCD missed it or our inspector could even miss it, we're we're all human. not perfect, but if it's found later to not have been built per plan, then there would be an ability for us to go and rectify that because they didn't build it per whatever the rules said. So, they may have to deconstruct or or some other method of remediating that situation.

That is usually imposed by fines though, correct? I know deconstructing is always on the table, but usually that's imposed by fines, which then still leaves the the challenge. It depends on what stage it's at in terms of development. So, for example, if if you're going through the sheetrocking process and and sheetrock is getting thrown up there and then an inspector comes in, it's like, "Oh, wait a minute. This sound, you know, the two 2hour firewall rating and the sound barrier is not in place for plans. You know, you stop work." Well, they're required to have a remedy inspection. So, this isn't something that should theoretically be missed, right? So,

it shouldn't. And even if there's fines, they still have to remediate it. We don't just take your fine and say, "Okay, you're fine now." I mean, you're some in some instances you'd be fined every day until it's corrected. That's a part of this process we haven't pursued yet as far as what the penalty would be if you wouldn't follow it. I I think if we identified anything in the field, we would stop work immediately, potentially they could be fined. But I think what would be most important to us, as long as it wasn't egregious or we thought it were intentional or a habit of someone that was a frequent person committing malfeasants, we're probably just going to try to work with them to get it fixed.

Yeah. Ideally before certificate of occupancy. So you have all these steps. Usually there's about 17 steps in terms of inspection residential side. So ideally we would want to catch it before somebody moves into the house. You know, that would be the that would be you could also in extreme cases go into court and try and get it done and relieve to and hopefully whenever in a building like this I said usually if you have to have a final framing inspection, you can't move on to sheetrock without that framing inspection. So, if we have our own building inspector that's following that code, they're going to catch if they didn't stagger their their 2x4s or if they didn't, you know. Yeah. So,

I would hope if they're doing 40% of their lots as two family homes, they wouldn't just do it on the first one and not after that from all the others. Usually, they bring several at a time. So, expect several at a time. Yeah. They you would catch it early and then they would correct it. Yeah. Or you catch it late and back. So, what what happens if somebody finds something after occupancy? So they move in and all of a sudden 90 days in they look at the one of the corners of the rooms of their house and they found out it hasn't been taped and they just ran some paint in the corner and it the paint finally cracks a little bit and I mean that's on the homeowner then

it is. Yeah. Once it transfers title title it home transfer that's a difficult thing but there's home warranty. Get a private inspection if you're listening. always get a private exception. Um so in putting this policy together, how does this affect our um collaboration with the comprehensive uh firm, the comprehensive firm plan firm that we're working with? uh is this language that that you've already spoken with them about and and they've helped with or I mean I know obviously we've been saying this for a couple of years but right

um how does this go in terms of adopting a policy and fitting it into the comprehensive let me start and then I'll turn it over to you so some of these ideas came from our initial conversations with the firm at Olsen

uh they had showed us where there were some other communities ities that are requiring um submittal of of the plans ahead of time and there's there's pre-approved plans for different types of housing in different areas in some of these sample communities that they shared with us. So, um some of it has come from those conversations, but I think they understand the priority of council that um we're going to be discussing design standards and residential density and how that fits into our community. It's going to be a focal point in the comp plan process. I don't think any of us know exactly how that's going to look yet. We're starting to kind of learn more as we go. You probably starting to see some emails about one-on-one interviews and other stakeholders in the steering committee will start seeing that, too. So, um, we're not quite sure yet, but they know it's a priority and it's going to be a big part of the process. And again, we did learn some from them in putting this together. and then some of our own research. I mean, there's a lot of communities, especially in Northeast Kansas, that already do this, so we're not reinventing the wheel here. Um, I think we're getting really good questions from the council about the whatifs,

penalties, consequences, how do we remediate this side or the third? Those are some trails we need to go a little bit further down um to to define what that looks like. Um, but I think we'll have solutions for that if if this needs to advance further. So hopefully I caught it all, Micah. But if you guys have been more involved in it than me, is there anything I'm missing on the comp plan side?

I don't I don't think so. Again, this would be just be a separate policy adoption that would then be referenced in the comprehensive plan. I think our goal would since the comprehensive plan isn't going to be completed until April of next year that if we do move forward with this restricted covenant that we would have this in place and then it could be referenced where necessary in the comprehensive plan final document. So, I asked this question pretty the other day um in agenda review and kind of what we talked about was my hesitation was we're going to adopt something without kind of working through this comprehensive plan that may not fit into the plan. Um and Craig made a good point that like if we don't adopt something now we're continuing to allow what's happening and so it's kind of like if we need to revise this through the comprehensive plan then we will. I have I I share a little hesitation and I I just I feel pretty strongly about um duplexes and and the what we are allowing previously, what we've been allowing um as far as structures go. And

so I I remember um before I was seated on council, we you guys were up here and you had voted down um our last duplex that had come in front of you and I was shocked by the amount of community members who weren't necessarily saying no duplexes. It was the quality of the duplexes that we were allowing to be built. And so, um, I think saying that we're never going to have duplexes again is just unrealistic. But I like the idea that we are going to put something in place that is going to stop allowing builders to come in and build the bare minimum unlivable duplexes. And I think that's really important. I think it was in December. December for orientation. We talked about um if you want a Walgreens and you got to tell them you want the landscaping. You want the snow.

Yeah. We don't want the cheap one that you find out at Central and Broadway, right? Like we want the really nice one with the landscaping and the sprinklers. And so that was really precise. Sorry. No offense. I just I'm thinking like it's more like it's not that we don't want the Walgreens, but we want to set the standard example. a Walgreens. I don't even know if there's one there. I just There probably is. They're on every corner, but I just meant lately. Not in Goddard. No, we don't want every corner in God. But we want to be very My hope is that people will want to come and stay. Come to Goddard and stay and live. Yeah. And live in something that's worth living in. A community. In a community. Not just housing.

Not just housing. Exactly. In a neighborhood. in, you know, whether it's two family or multifamily. Um, just Yes.

And keep in mind, this would apply on a case-by case basis to an individual track of land. So, there's a piece of ground, 48 acres, that's on auction right now. The auction closes in two weeks. Someone may want to buy that ground and they may say in order for my proforma to work and invest in your community this is the type of investment and development that I would like to do and it's it's like okay well maybe we can do some version of that. Here's what we're comfortable with and it applies to that specific 40 acres only. I think the goal is is once you get through the comp plan process maybe this restrictive covenant becomes the actual regulation for R2 zoning permanently. uh if if that's all you're comfortable with from a percentage standpoint and the design standard. So again, this is kind of a a stop gap to some degree. I think it would be a disservice to our community and the vision of this council to just simply turn away any level of uh development that isn't single family because we need a wide array of housing types to be to have a appropriate housing ecosystem here. Um, and this this creates an opportunity to do that while also addressing I would say almost all of the concerns that we've heard during the zoning hearing processes. And if there are other areas we need to address, tell us that's why we're having this conversation. And I would just lastly, there's always a drawback, right? That doing this is going to increase the costs for the rental and then the person purchasing it. So, we're creating less opportunity for someone to live in our community when we create these higher design standards. We already hear that even for the ones that some folks say are less than or unlivable, those are already too expensive. That that that's what we hear, but that's what the market's bearing. Just keep in mind that that that's going to create a tighter window of opportunity for people to live here when you increase the design standard.

And and if you're okay with that, that then that's fine. We just want to make sure that that's understood. But the other issue involved in that is that if we have a larger supply of inventory then we have people looking for the inventory that'll drive the prices down and and so um at some point things come into equilibrium. For the last four or five years, housing's been out of out of whack, out of balance. And uh so we keep building like we're building, maybe in the next three or four years, we'll hit more of an equilibrium on rents.

And and the people that took the shortcuts to built the stuff that isn't designed with standards in mind, those are the properties, those are the properties that'll either be vacant or they'll have to reduce their rents to attract people to live there. So, the market has a way of working all this out, but I I think I really think as Christa said, we're going to live here a long time and we have a right to make sure that the things that are built in this community are are well done. And like I've been saying, we can have nice things in Goddard, including nice neighborhoods with with maybe little parks and sometimes pickle ball courts and sidewalks and all these things that hopefully over the next 5 years when we continue to work on will become reality. So that's in terms of the vision, but the direction that but actually seeing some of these things finally come to fruition. And so and that started today with the groundbreaking. So, I'm just pretty jazzed up. I'd also like to point out that we still have quite a few duplexes on the um docket that have not been um that have not gone vertical from and so for me these design standards are I'm one I'm one voice and one vote are um I would like to see these go through for the the future of development because there are still some that are coming that um you are I mean I don't know what they're going to be and um I would just like to know that going forward any new developments would have to follow these specific standards. Um so and I think if we can really look at if we are creating neighborhoods um people will take pride in them we will we won't have the crime.

I think um Chief Beedley can testify to that. You know, with if you have if you have a good community that you live in, people are looking out for each other, those kinds of things. So, there's more than just the houses. And, you know, it is it's really about creating the community within our community. So, that's my perspective. And I just want us to really keep in mind still that we have a whole bunch of duplexes going in at 167th and 23rd Street that are um just now being uh built. So 200 more that have not been built.

200 more. And I just want to touch on because I personally really try not to comment on Facebook, but um you know I I see the comments and I I see the feedback and this is not in any way when we say we want people to come through because I completely echo that sentiment. We want this to be a home, but this does not mean that there's not a place for low income or there's not a place for renters. We want you to feel welcome here. We want you here, but I think it also goes that it's a safety net for renters as well or even low income that we want you to have a safe home. Yes. And um I a well-built home.

Yes. And I I don't want your garage falling apart 6 months into living into a brand new duplex that you thought you were paying more for cuz it was brand new. And I've seen that happen. And so, um, you know, I I just echo that and I know that we can't go to all of these developments that aren't up yet and say you have to follow all of these. However, I would be curious and putting on public record that I want to know what it takes to go to them and say, "Hey, the one code we have, I think out of everything that I've read here, the sound separation requirement, um, if we're going to keep putting duplexes up, I I don't even know why this is a conversation with builders. Um, I would encourage any builder who doesn't put this in to go live in one for 90 days. Um, but I don't know if there's a way to put that in for anything that's not framing up on the ground already. If you have a Ford foundation, sound separations required. And I know that you're looking over. I know that's a that's a hard area, but I do not think that it is unreasonable to ask our builders to not build crap homes for our community.

There is a way. It's you have to just modify the the IRC. Basically, you would ask for additional provisions to IR to the adopted IRC, but we can't really do that until we have our own building inspector. Well, I'd like to see that put in front of us as soon as uh we have a building inspector. So, I'm not saying that we have to go to them and say they've got to change their whole layout here and they've got to change the color they're painting or the way that they're building. But, I think sound separation, any disagreement, like I don't think that's too much to ask for. Yeah. provisions. So any IRC that you adopt because there's different provisions of the IRC, which is the industrial residential construction, you know, you can adopt it provisions, but you can add additional provisions to it as well.

So this is that's like the bare minimum you'd add to it. But once again, inspection would have to be done by somebody that's trained to be able to recognize that isn't running through a thousand homes in a week. And is Yeah, because everybody's got no matter what restricted covenants aside, they all have to abide by the IC. an IRC. So if there's IRC adopted that says you have to do this, it doesn't matter if it was being built tomorrow or you have now. What do you think the turnar around time is on getting a building inspector once you post? What's your hope? What's your goal? I would default to Ryan Shri on that one. He's got more experience with hiring and retaining people.

So our goal is that we hire someone that already has the four necessary certifications to do a full residential building inspection. Uh unfortunately that is a relatively small pool in our neck of the woods as well as nationwide. Uh so we are advertising this is that of the requirement to apply and even be considered for an interview is that you do have all four certifications through the international code council or ICC to be considered for an interview. So I I can't speak to when we release this how long it'll take for us to start receiving applicants that already do have these certifications. Uh we have looked at the local marketplace and we are advertising this at a salary that is competitive with MABCD and other communities in the region that are uh that do their own building inspection. So I'm hopeful. Uh I'll be optimistic that we do get some candidates that would like to uh come and join our awesome organization. Uh but again I I can't speak to how long that process will take. If we do hire if we were to hire someone without the certifications uh that takes time for them to go through training and then pass those exams. Uh, I've seen those exams. I've never tried to take one, nor would I want to take one, especially the electrical. Uh, but, uh, those those those are very technical exams that last multiple hours. Uh, but those certifications, we want to hire someone that already has the four necessary certifications to start that inspection work. So, I'm hopeful, but I I I couldn't speak to how quickly or how long it's going to take. How long do we intend to leave that on the market um before we say, "Okay, we'll start getting applicants that don't have

We're not going to hire someone that doesn't have those." We tried that a couple years ago and it just it doesn't work. So, we will either increase the pay, okay, buy a company car, we'll figure out a way how to hire someone that has those credentials. Yeah,

our community is growing far too quickly to we would just be setting ourselves back if we tried to hire someone, got them on staff, gave them the time to study, take the test, maybe they pass, maybe they know they I've been through that process before in other situations. So, we will work aggressively to hire a person. But I want to share something that I think would give you some optimism. I don't think we're going to see another two family project built for a while, unless there's one out there that I'm not thinking of. We don't even have um engineering and design on the sanitary sewer force main or lift station for either 167th or 23rd. Let's say we do get that. I've been told it was coming next week for the last four or five months and we haven't got it yet. Let's say we do get it next week. It's probably going to be another 90 to 120 days or more before it's actually built. That's takes a lot of time to put in a sanitary reinforcement in a lift station. Um so we've got months until We have more two family projects coming online. I think Trails In maybe they have one or two left or I think they're all all out.

Trails in the last duplex building today. They're at their 80 maximum. Big arms capped out. Maple tree. We haven't that project. We haven't seen plans for it yet. So, we actually have some time. We're kind of in this which actually fits well within this conversation. We don't need to rush the design standard thing either. Unless anyone's listening to tonight, then they're going to need 8 a.m. meetings tomorrow trying to get this done because I'm hoping as soon as you have a building inspector that that's in front of us and I'm one voice as well. But

yeah, I was going to say madam councilwoman if you can get the consensus of a majority of your colleagues on the dis we'd be glad to pursue that um that that direct that directive that you shared as far as the sound barrier. I would I would definitely concur with that going forward. Um also I would also Well, we can start working on that. And again, we need to we need the inspector. Absolutely. We'll work really aggressively to get it. We've got months though. I mean, it's going to take some time. Yeah. There is one duplex project that comes to mind that has already been entitled, but it's a twostory. Not

sound absorption is not an issue, I don't think, because they're not side by side. They're stacked. Mhm. Um, so but other than that, we won't see any for a while. The the 200 units haven't been built yet are Maple Tree, 23rd, and 167. So, and so that's a still a total of 200 duplexes that have not been built that were 200 buildings. 200 buildings. So, 400 units. 200 uh yes, 400 units. 400 units.

We do know what some of them will be. We let's get them a copy of the concept plan. So like 23rd and 167th and Maple Tree, they've said, "Okay, this row is going to be like the ones on Clover Leaf on the east side. This culde-sac is going to be like the more entry level stuff that maybe we don't like as much." So we can kind of share with you what the breakdown is. It's not going to be all the same unless they change their plans. Um, how many conversations do we have to have about uh putting this policy in place? I know you're saying months and months, but two years ago, I mean, we're in our third year now, and I just don't want I would prefer to adopt this policy um sooner than later. So, how many how many conversations do we have to have? Th

this would go with a specific track of land. So, if we get an application for a zoning amendment for a property that was purchased by a developer or already owned, that's when you would consider this. So, this wouldn't be something that we say, "Okay, we're going to adopt this three council meetings from now." Um, you could just give us a general policy direction and say, "We generally approve of this. So, when there is a zoning amendment, this needs to accompany it if it includes R2 development." That that would be the direction we need. Now, if you have some changes and modifications, we can incorporate those into it prior to bringing it to you officially with a tract of land and a zoning amendment application.

I mean, I would say you should have it on all of them that come forward from now on, at least until the comp plan's done. I think this needs to be gone through by Ryan first. I mean, I think that there's a few like smaller things in here that I just want to make sure we're we're covered on. Um, I'll be very honest. For me, it's really just like because I'm quickly just like providing um But if we wait, no, I agree. I just want to see it go through Ryan first. I want to make sure that we're

My office can start the analysis on that probably this week. One thing would be if council felt generally okay with it then we can deal with this administratively outside of a council meeting but then we could also if you did like I said feel comfortable the way it's being presented. This is something that we would be handing over to potential developers saying this is what council feels comfortable with. We can disseminate that information pretty regularly. I mean we have developers calling us all the time asking us what's the stance of council and so if this is something you guys feel comfortable with we can work with Ryan Beck directly his office refine it a little bit circulate internally and then distribute it if you don't want to do that way you know we could work with Ryan Beck individually refine it and present it a council meeting like this has been reviewed by legal um and then disseminated but this is kind of where we're asking for that direction because how many people are still asking to build duplexes is clearly quite shocking. I mean, not I guess not that shocking considering rates and and real estate appreciation. So, it's not really that shocking, but I've had five people, different developers ask me about duplexes in the last year, so it's been pretty dramatic.

Can I just give one clarification on here like maybe for the citizens? Um, and I talked a lot about some changes with with Craig that I think we need to clarify throughout this, but on the very first one with the 40% first the last set of twin homes that was came before council before my time. Was it a 40% threshold as well? 6040. Yeah, they wanted more. They wanted 60% on the duplex side, 40% on the single family side.

All right. Well, so with the 40% I already think the very first pull it needs rewarded to be a little clear about that being the most, not the least because it can be a little hard to understand. But if you have 100 tracks for simple easy number and you're allowing 40% of the lots to be twin homes, twin homes are automatically split lots. Correct. Yeah, they're split. So you actually are allowing 20 twin homes to every 60 single family homes. Yes. So, in effect, it visually looks like a third of the houses, not 40% of houses. Yes. But we would be reviewing it based on either lots or dwelling units.

Right. What I'm getting at is the 40% sounds even maybe a little high, but it's actually less buildings. Visually, as you drive through the development, it's going to look like less than when people because you actually have 20 for every hundred total buildings potentially. Yeah. If digitally, I mean, that's going to be perception. That's right. But I I think it's worth noting because if you 40% to me without taking into account lots and split lots sounds like for every 10 homes you have four that are sure but they're actually in reality you're you have two for every 10. No, you have four. That's not the way this reads. Well, that's the way it's that's the way Trails End was approved.

That's why I want number one to be clear, right? What I'm saying? Yeah. Because if your twin home is two lots and you're saying 40% of the lots can be twin homes. Yeah. But we're saying you're saying twin homes and we're So twin homes there's a distinction or two family homes, excuse me.

Yeah. And which it begs the question too because you're when you say twin homes you mean that there's a duplex that's been split down the middle. This is largely a reflection to duplexes first and foremost assuming that it's going to be a duplex traditionally not split down the middle. Now somebody can split it after the fact. they can do administratively and that can change because there's we've seen twin homes that have a side loaded garage and a front loaded garage on the same building which is which changes the perception of how that lays out in in that urban subdivision which is nice. Didn't we determine to have them split pre-split pre-split is what I was under we sometimes we can have them pre-split but it can become difficult to have them pre-split. It just depends.

I think you're talking like 20% difference right now in actual buildings though.

It it's not a policy, but the direction that we were given by council was that we want to encourage pre-splitting them to encourage ownership because I think to some degree it makes that easier for folks to own. We're trying to get into a habit of just using the term two family structure. To me, a twin home and a duplex is the same thing. I think to Micah a twin home is You have two different owners, one on each side in the duplexes. They're both renters. So, I think we're getting a little into the minutia here. Mayor, I want to just get some direction from you guys. Let us if you if you will, let us get with Ryan Pek to make sure that what we intend is what is on paper cuz I Councilman Dura is a valid concern and that first bullet. We want to make sure that's very clear and uh legally bindings of course of what our intention is. So, let us clean it up with our city attorneys. uh and then maybe we can bring it back to you guys. Maybe the fourth Tuesday of this month would be a good opportunity to discuss it. And then all we'll be looking for from you at that time is yeah, we're comfortable with you guys sharing this amongst the development community should there be any R2 zoning amendments that that come uh in the near future. That that's kind of what we're hoping to do with this.

Don't get too heavy into it. Sorry. Can we just make sure that we touch on number seven as well? the unusual buildings, the use of unusual shapes, colors, and just clarifying what that looks like. I know it's at everybody's discretion should you be gone 5 years from now, right? I want to make sure that the next person doesn't think hot pink is a usual color. So, Oh, sure. I just want to make sure we're Mayor, the comment that I received from some of the bench was that that one might be a little subjective to which I agree. I think there's some modern housing styles and like Talia and maybe even some in Trails In that Joe might think is uh unusual and Billy might think is normal in 2026. So

my geodessic dome isn't going to fit in very well. My suggestion was that we kind of put that back on to the developer or even the HOA that adopts it. Whereas like I said, you know, Italia home may not fit in St. standards, but it doesn't mean you don't have value in Italia home and Italian development. So, I just want to be clear that like we're not saying we don't want specific style homes anywhere, but like we're keeping them not cookie cutter, but just kind of uniform in these developments, but being clear on that so that there's no Well, I think in terms of moving this along, I think uh having this go to Ryan,

uh you guys get a chance to rework it, get it back to us. So give us some more time to review it and then then we can kind of basically endorse it as a as a group in terms of going forward in between now and the time that uh we finish the comprehensive plan. That way you have some guidance in terms of people coming to you and looking for duplexes or whatever we're going to call them. Spaceships, two family homes. Two family homes. Geodessic domes. I like that. So, and I just think the sooner we can adopt the a policy like this, the better um instead of waiting, you know, for months that we might have.

So, I think that time frame of the end of our third meeting in April this month would be good if we get it done. Yeah, Mayor, I think Councilwoman Hall maybe even want to take it a step further. We could adopt a resolution that made it temporary or at least put it on paper. Clear is kind. We have people that want to invest millions of dollars into our community. So it it's possible that we can even look at a resolution for this that we could actually hand them and say, "Hey, till the comp plan's done, like this is where we're at on R2." It's a little obviously less binding than an ordinance, but it puts it on paper, makes it a little more official, maybe a little more comfortable, makes them a little more comfortable with their investment. Are you do you agree?

I don't want to run people off either. I don't want to run people off. I don't know. I'm just saying. I mean, we love it. People out don't want to build. Yeah. I guess one thing I'd like to see and maybe we could talk offline is what the current building requirements are for two family homes and what fire wall ratings look like versus sound and and where that lies. Just just for my own to read through that side by side as well. But I would not want to read that. It's horrendously boring information. That's what AI chat bots are for. We can whip that up.

I'd like to make sure that the inspectors that are out there are doing their job. That's true. That's a good point about why we want building inspector. We have more we have more control. That's what I don't think. There's a twohour fire rate for fire rating. fire rate sound. There is not there is not soundproofing installation is not correctly wrong it's not required in between on on duplexes on twin homes whatever we want to call them there's not a requirement there but it is on all the exterior sometimes a two 2hour fire rate wall acts as a defacto sound barrier based on how they decide to enact that most children would say it wouldn't

yeah but obviously it depends on how they decide to do that to those builders to come see us okay are we good we're Thank you guys for the work you put into this. Straight to sketch. See administrator report item J.

Honorable mayor and city council. It's my pleasure to provide you with some updates to our city operations projects and future agenda items. Uh the first one I want to share with you is fairly exciting. Here about a week ago, we received word from our colleagues at Wambo that the project selection committee has recommended the city of Goddard/Cedric County 183rd Street expansion project an amount of 3.85 million in suballocated federal funding in fiscal fund year 2030 representing 80% of qualifying project costs. While final approval is still pending for the Wampo technical advisory committee and transportation policy body, which by the way, you've got representatives from the city of God on both of those. Staff is optimistic given the strength of the recommendation from the project selection committee. This is the first time to our knowledge that we've received suballocated funding from WPO for a a transportation project in GDD. So, it's a proud moment for us. I want to give special thanks to Mayor Lee. We've had lots of trips down to the Ronald Reagan building. Um he's done a fantastic job advocating with his peers uh from other communities that serve in similar roles as us. And um it can be frustrating walking out of there because it's a challenging process to to understand. I'm some days I still don't think I've got it figured out. But we got this win. Um typically the TAC and the TPB approved what recommendations come from the project selection committee. So super excited about this win for our community. Uh this will put the roundabout at 183rd in Maple and it will pave uh 183rd from Maple up to central villas at Pleasant Ridge Creek. 79 of 120 working days elapsed. They're really charging along out there. Um I would anticipate that it won't be too long before that project is buttoned up. You can really start to see it shaping and then the uh paving crews will be coming in in just a few short weeks. water

looping projects. Uh the bids are due April 16th. Hopefully, we'll have a contract awarded thereafter. Our annual roadway project bids are due on Thursday at 1:30. You can see the slew of projects we have scheduled to do in 2026. Some of those are obviously pending on where our uh bids come back. We typically over um schedule the projects we put in the advertisement just in case prices come back good, we can fit more in. Uh so if if for some reason the bids come back higher than what we have budgeted, we'll kind of share with you what our recommendation is based on what we think the priorities are and you guys can ultimately make the decisions as to what makes the cut. Bridger maple phase two uh they're getting getting right along out there as well. I would expect that hopefully the paving crews will be following um that current utility work uh probably in the next few weeks. So, it's hard to see what's going on back there cuz it's on the far north side of North Texas as the mayor calls it, but if you're real curious, you can just drive back in there and see the work going on. North Park project bids were open March 25th. Contract will likely be awarded at the April 20th uh city council meeting. Mobilization anticipated to begin May. Main Street Market this Sunday, April 12th, from 2:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. Join us. It's going to be a lot of fun. bounce houses, giveaways, food trucks, and vendors of all kind. It's going to be a fun time out there. Really appreciate Danny and the Gddard Main Street committee for all their hard work and getting this market season kicked off. So, hopefully I didn't steal your thunder there. Sorry if you're

I did. I'm crossing out my notes, but it's fine.

Please bring it up again. We want to make sure the Facebookers hear it. Uh, community cleanup day, Saturday, April Oh, I skipped one. Neighbors United, Saturday, April 25th at 7:00 a.m. We'll meet up at Gddard High. It's a great day of service for our community. We would love for you to join. Um the community cleanup day runs concurrently with that operation. It's going to be out there at the current public works facility. We've got several vacancies. We've got our police department. If you know anyone in law enforcement, recommend them to us. We would love to uh give them a shot. So, 167th and 23rd Streets. Uh the paving project should be wrapping up over there pretty soon. Uh Hawkins Lane, I think we're driving on it now. Uh you can get uh to the park from the Naple entrance, but um we still need to get energized, so they got to get the power in. Told the giraffes come until May. And we got some other things out there that we need to get done, too, including the monument signage and some other items. Uh Galleria project, that one is nearly finished. Um the one of the outstanding items is the south pond which should be completed next. Several upcoming agenda items there. Uh just to give you a notice of what's coming up and thank you guys uh for celebrating with us our public works ground breaking for our new facility. That was super exciting and I look forward to watching that progress project progress and we'll keep you guys up to date on it.

Thank you Craig. How many officers do we need right now? Two officers, one sergeant. All right, everybody. Comments.

Just wanted to thank Karen and Amanda for coming up. And um I'm glad that we get their bylaws completed and that that we all work together and that you're happy with them. So, thanks for putting in all the input. Thanks, Eric, for making us aware of um what's going on with those scooters. I've actually seen that too and uh worrying about it. So, I promise I'll slow down. That hurts your going so fast. So,

um other than that, lots of great work going on. Sorry, I missed the ground baking ground breaking um work duty called. Um and also just let everybody know the garden is open for business. Did our first mowing um this weekend and uh we have a couple beds that are open for rent. So um if you'd like to join us and garden with us, let me know. I have

vice mayor. uh all the sentiments that Naomi uh said, I echo with the um bylaws and the senior advisory board and just the collaboration uh amongst the um parties involved. Um I'm excited to move forward with the senior citizen um the seniors the senior center sorry. Uh, and then I thought stop signs were option were not optional like period whether you're riding a bike or on a scooter. So stop signs. Um, anyway, thank

we've seen I see him fly down Main Street all the time, you know, right out the window. So Right. All right. Uh, today's groundbreaking was exciting. There we had a great crowd. a lot of people came every uh pe all the people that are involved in that. It was really uh wonderful to see. So, thanks for putting all that on and that's cool. My turn. Your turn.

I'm going to echo it all. Um also, thank you, Mayor Lee, because um I know that there was a conversation that a few years ago we weren't even at these tables at all. And so, um, single-handedly between you and Craig, I mean, you guys are making this happen. And so, thank you guys. This is huge for our community. Um, I'm hoping some sidewalks are coming up next at, you know, these meetings. So, um, say your little prayers there. Um, yes, the the first Main Street Market of the season, I had it written down to tell you guys, was 2 to 5 this Sunday. Inflatables. Danny, what do we have? Almost 60 vendors. Um, if you all could do a no rain dance, uh, that's not looking too great for us.

Sunny and 75.

Sunny and 75, I'd love it. Um, we're going to have, um, Jake back to do some music again, but we also have a DJ. So, uh, that we're going to put down on the kids inflatables. So, if you missed it, it was our last market um, last season. Uh, you got to do the like cha slide and the Cupid Shuffle in the middle of Main Street. It's not often you say you get to do that. So, come on out and join us. Um, Neighbors United is also this month, the the 25th. And I will put the shameless plug in that um what Neighbors United does is amazing for our community. Um, it helps a lot of our community members out. If you're unfamiliar, uh, we get a group of 3 to 400 volunteers roughly and uh, we go out and we clean up yards. We've got some uh wheelchair ramps, lots of other projects within the community, but it takes a community and we desperately need volunteers, site leaders to run those volunteers. And um it also takes sponsorships and and uh money and tools to to make the event go around. So um if that's something that you're interested in, please reach out to Danny at the city. Um we can really use all of the help. So

all right,

real quick. Uh, it was a pleasure getting to be at the groundbreaking. It's exciting and I I appreciated the opportunity to be there and it was also exciting to see all the public works crew and how excited they were that this is kicking off and it's it's real. So, um, that that was really cool. Um, the other thing, uh, on the senior center bylaws, I wanted to thank, uh, the city staff for all the time they put into, uh, just the revisions and the work that went into coming up with what we were able to pass tonight. And I appreciate everyone on the senior center advisory board. I hope everybody's uh, opinions were um, they felt that we took them in because we tried hard to make sure that we listened to everyone. And a special thanks to Ryan Peek for all the time that you put into this and just the levelheadedness and just the guidance you were able to provide. I really appreciate all that.

Very good. Uh April 14th at 6:00 I think. So 6 o'clock our uh budget uh open house in the pavilion. Open forum. an open form, public farm. You want to remember that. Hopefully another day that it's going to be sunny and 75. That's a that is a mental uh temperature and environment that I always play golf in. So regardless of the temperature or the rain or clouds or whatever, it is always sunny and 75 on the golf course.

So we can adopt that for city uh you know for city events as well. So, um I add everyone's sentiments all the work done on the senior center um bylaws. The other thing, uh I would just point out that uh take a look at the a or the April calendar. Uh looks a lot different than it has the last couple of months. So, thank you for the the staff and and Amanda and all your the board and the work that's being done to kind of get that thing boosted back up. So, and we'll even find a I think there's a day on there to play golf with the mayor on April uh 17th. So, if you got some free time that Friday, we'll go and play nine holes of golf with G. And uh you got you got to give me you got to give me two strokes per hole. So,

what time are you doing that? at 10:00 if I can get the tea time set right. They only let me make the tea time about 7 days in advance. More fun than humans should be allowed to have. So, and it's going to be sunny at 75. With that, I'll done I'm done with anybody comments. We do have an executive session. Um, let's see. We got uh this item should take probably about 20 minutes. So, let's round let's go to like uh eight 35. Do we have to read it?

I move to enter executive session for consultation with the city attorney for the public body or agency which would be deemed privileged in the attorney client relationship for KSA75-4319B2 to receive advice regarding the matter and including the city administrator, deputy city administrator, and city attorney with the regular meeting reopening at 8:35. Mr. Mayor, sorry to interject. If we could ask for a modification to the motion. Sure. Sure. We don't require the deputy city administrator. Unless the deputy city I want him to see in the executive session. No, seriously. Yeah. For training. Yeah. Yes. So moved. Second. We have a second. Second.

Second. All those in favor say I. I. See you all back here at

Okay, we're back in session. I let the record uh show that there were there was no action taken during that time and we determined that we'd like another 10 minutes or 12. Let's go to You've already used it past your 35.

Well, I know that's why we're going to extend and take another 13 minutes and go to 10 till 9. So, I make a recommendation uh that we enter executive session, consult with the city attorney and everybody else that was in there per KSA75-4319B2 to receive this advice regarding the matter including everybody that was in there. Uh and we will be back in 12 minutes at 10 till 9. Second. All those in favor say I. We shall return.

What's the matter? That's where get aggressive. My chair got stuck. Oh, your mic's on. My chair got stuck. action.

No binding actions been taken. We're back and I'll entertain a motion action to make the motion. Second 40 seconds. The men say all in favor say I. I. I. It is. Hi. Can I make an announcement before you leave? Sure. Now, Amanda would like, excuse me, the other Amanda would like you all to stop over and see the new vintage toy place in the green building right north of the senior center and welcome him to It's a toy place, right? Vintage toys. I was close. I was close to the neighborhood. Don't take my kids. I was close.