Planning Board - Regular Meeting

Good evening. Welcome to Blood Planning Board. The business is to um approve the minutes from the last meeting. Anyone have any comments on October?

Make a motion to move the minutes. That's what we're all favor. All right. First order of business [sighs] when we open the floor for public comment. Please come forward on a time. State your name and address. And please remember there's a 3minut time frame for public comment. I'll ask you to address the whole planning board as a group not to single out any one board member for your comments. I would also like to remind you this comment period is not a dialogue or a conversation simply public comment. First order of business this evening uh old business is site clear SB25-009 196 street Glenn Wald LLC owner of tax number 302.16-16-1 commonly known as 196 street represented by Ethan Hall and Rosinski Hall architecture and seeking site plans agreed to convert the existing building from a two unit apartment building into a six-unit apartment building as well as construct six future townhouse units consisting of three bedroomedroom units for smooth city principal zoning code chapter 220-14D1 and 2. This will require site management to approve. Also at the same time we'll do architectural review AR25-004 196 Rich Street West Balls LLC owner of tax map number 302.16-16-1 county at 196 Rich Street represented by Paul and Brazinski Hall architecture

city architecture review the existing building from a twounit apartment building into a sixunit apartment building as well as construct six future townhouse units consisting of threebedroom units pursuant to the city of Huntswell zoning code chapter 220-14E one and two this require architectural review and approval you are good evening for your records my name is Ethan Hall I'm principal of Hall with me tonight is Dan Schneider member of 196 street LLC um this This is continuation of the sketch plan review that we did earlier in the year. Um came in had a few comments. Uh we addressed most of the comments from the board on the plans you have in front of you. Uh we met with uh Martin Seat from A1 Treeworks who's a certified arborist. Uh we walked a lot. The growing that you see up here right now indicates the trees that meet as identified as either the need of removal or ones that are in bad shape. The other ones that we have indicated be the drip line of the excavation or will be in the parking areas themselves. So we've got that shown as the ones to be removed. The updated site plan shows uh planting plan with plantings that will go back in to take care of the ones that are being removed. Um we have addressed the items from there fire marshall uh as far as the the width of the drag coming in. Um, a couple other things that we did, uh, I know that one of the members who talked about parking that we had on the main street side of the building. We moved

those to the back of the building. Um, we did leave the accessible parking space up front because that is the accessible entrance to the building. Um, and the other thing that we did was along the west side of the building where the setback is 10 ft, we moved the building back to 21 ft and eliminated the patios that are on the back. I think that's the extent of that part portion of it. Uh the rest of it pretty much stays the same as what we presented before. Uh with brick facads matching the existing building and brick facade on the front proposal to also the existing building. Um, as far as um, fencing goes, couple of things that we wanted to take care of. As you come up to the end of Williams Street, this corner right here, uh, coming up to the stop bar, Williams is a long way street and the stop bar is set back a little bit with the way that the shrubbery has grown up in that corner. you actually have to move beyond the stopwing and replace it with low privileged uh addition in addition to The intensity is already here. It starts at this walkway, comes down into Church of Williams, and comes down to this walkway. We're going to pick that up, extend that down to our new driveway, and then on the other side

of the driveway down to the south. We pick up from that side of the walkway up to our entry drive, pick up on the other side, bring that up to the property line, and turn it back to where the new fence line will be. The rest of the property there is with the the neighbor on this side currently has a very nice white uh vinyl 6 foot high fence that actually has a mat on top of it to keep the basketball from going out there and um we're going to pick up from the end of that on this end of it and go along the property line 6T high fence. We'll also pick up on this end and bring the rest of the property back to William Street. This is the fence color that they've chosen. Um, we chose a dark brown because it kind of matches the the base of the trees over there and blend into that. Won't stick out like a white fence will have the detail of the fence added to the fence look like it is a 6t tall solid. Um, I think that pretty much for the purposes of what we talked about, we we did take away a lot of the parking that was back here. We will add that in. We have we have it shown as banked parking for future if it's determined that we need it. Uh, we do meet all the criteria for parking. We meet the criteria for density. We meet the criteria for all of our and lock coverage. With that, I'll open it up to the board question.

Ethan, I think if the board approves the plan, we should count that thing that we're not dealing with.

Yeah, we we have it shown on there. Um, and we not we would not provide it unless it unless it was deemed to be necessary. We we met the zoning requirement and the comments that we got from here last time. We've provided more parking than what was necessary, which normally come in asking for a variance for that, but we've actually provided more. Um, I don't think it'll be necessary. Most of the most of the apartments that are in this building are onebedroom apartments and I think we've got plenty of apartments in the townhouse back here. Each one of them has a garage plus there's basically two parking spaces in front of each unit. So the bank park

correct they wouldn't be built unless became necessary and even with the bank we still know criteria for that right yes no it wouldn't be it wouldn't be paid unless they determined that they [sighs]

[snorts]

Um, remind us what the color of the siding is. When you turn the corner, you've got the brick sides and the main house. Yeah. So, we we talked about going with something that is going to kind of match the mortar but not the brick. We found the issue. Um, with this we're trying to get a siding to match it. But if we go with like a gray siding, we can match the mortar. And that was kind of it's a reddish. The brick that's there now is so it'll contrast,

but it'll find anything that sort of like, you know, it would be a red. My only thought is that it's a little Yes, it's Yeah. Well, the issue that I had with with going with something like that is it's kind of a start and if I can do something that I can kind of make the make it, you know, not where I start. We can look and try again down and try and find a red map. And I guess that that would also be my thought on the other on the other apartment.

Yeah. Yes. You know, face one color. See on an angle color. So just And then I like that the registry parking move to the back of the house. I like that the dangers are no longer on the property. Um, [snorts] I think that that ground fence is preferable to [snorts] And then I had a question about confirming what it went all the way around. You explained what it did. Um, and also that you've got the little running the [clears throat]

ridge. Yeah. Um, and looks like you're filling in landscaping as much as possible. I I absolutely think that it's a positive that the number of spaces has been reduced. I mean, you can't know now, but is there something particular that might trigger building that out? Only if there was, you know, if there were people having trouble parking, but you bet. We don't anticipate. Correct. So we we we provided two per apartments and like you said some of them are one bed of apartments where the odds of having two cars.

Um and then regarding the new building, I think it's positive. You have a move, correct? And I think that's positive that you know something that potentially could I appreciate the awareness for that. Um, and again, my thought on the siding, guess I'm trying to picture the brick, but maybe there's something done. Where will all the electric be? Uh, likely on the back side of the building. Um, build. Well, we've got two buildings.

We have two buildings. So the existing building which is going to be done first the existing two units that are going to be number four and then the garage comes off and two additional units all of those meters will be on the back side of that building and facing the townless not but but somewhere in here not facing not on the main street

not on the main street side not on the main street side they're on the back side of the building somewhere And that is the access. And then the ones from the townhouse, there's actually on the end of the building right here. right there. There's a there's a a pump out that is the water and also excuse me this this building right here has the bottom where the sprinkler comes up and also the electric meters on this building.

And did you discuss the forward? You're not doing externally exterior heat pumps. So are you? Uh as far as mini splits, yeah, the idea is to do that. And again, those units are going to be the ground mounted units will be placed back here. And then for these units, these are going to be all electric and the ground would be up on the far. So they're all ground. hanging on off of we probably get those size so that they can handle a couple of apartments. Correct. The ones for the ones for the new unit.

Um I guess one thought is looking at your elevations. It's interesting the the brick on this side now on both sides. Um trying to keep and then I understand also just from transitioning to vinyl. Um I wonder if there isn't an opportunity and maybe something happened with this um facility in there to this word house.

Um yeah what we tried to do there is to match the to match the front facade that's facing street. uh you brought all the gingerbread that above the windows and those types of things. Um I in keeping with the very distinct I take a picture house um when you drive down the street it's all houses there. So at the end of that building like a house. Yeah. They look more like maybe

um I don't have any for comment 3 up. Say your name, your address,

Hi there. My name is David Cook and my wife Christy and I live on 202 Ridge Street. Our neighborhoods created a logo that you may have noticed with the Chags pins that some of us are wearing. It's an acronym that identifies what we want to preserve here in Lens Falls. character, history, and green space. Although we understand that the developers wanting to do more with the 196 Bridge Street property, we do not support those plans and believe that sometimes less is more. As far as character, that's something that attracted us to move here less than a year ago. We do not want to see that attractive feature lost by overdeveloping our green spaces. December last year, Mark Frost from the Chronicle said, quote, "Look magazine in 1944 spotlighted Glenn's Falls, telling our story, catching a character of what it titled Hometown USA as Look magazine looked to inspire the nation during World War II." End quote. As far as history, everyone in this room knows that Glenn's Falls is full of history. Whether those in our neighborhood have lived here less than one year like us or over 40 years, we all wish to preserve that history. And the history of the Aderondic Balloon Festival over 50 years ago was started in part by Walter and Joan Grisco. We never met them, but we are honored to live in their former house on Ridge Street. The people who lived near the Grescotts when they were living can confirm that they were adamant in preserving the character, history, and green space of our neighborhood. And were they still alive today, I'm sure they'd be here at the head of our CHS group. Greenspace is also a huge, appealing, and necessary

feature of our block. Most of the adjacent properties to the 196 Street property have homes that reflect that appeal. 50 William Street, Britney's house, formerly owned by for 50 years by Dr. Tedesco, has many glass windows. Jeff and Rachel on number 120 Ridge Street, have the back of their house designed to accentuate the property and the privacy. our house, the rear annex designed and built by the Griscots with a solarium and a sun room to capitalize on the green space, the privacy, and Barbara and Carrie next door have their pool backing up to that green space. A few other concerns that we have are traffic with the residents as well as extra vehicular traffic like Amazon delivery, things like that. And then uh we have some concerns with the integrity of the short environmental assessment form. There was a couple questions that were answered there. Uh one was will the proposed action re result in a substantial increase in traffic above present levels. The answer was given no. And I think with 29 parking spaces or that many units, it would definitely be uh a substantial increase. And so we would wonder if there's a need for a traffic study to see what the impact would be. Another uh number 20 uh question number 20 said

okay.

Good evening. Uh my name is Britney Mason. I'm a registered nurse at Glenn Falls Hospital. 3 years ago, I bought my home at 50 William Street, which is directly next door to 196 Ridge. I bought this home not only to be close to work, but because of the elegant charm of the historic property, the great neighborhood, and kind neighbors. Snider's Drywall, the new owners of 196 Ridge, want to change the historic Victorian house next door to my home into six two-bedroom apartments. and in a separate and second building add six three-bedroom town homes for a total of 12 units plus 29 parking spaces. With this proposed plan, my home will literally be surrounded on the east side and all along my backyard. This greatly impacts me, my stepchildren, my dog. I don't believe that this lot, which sits partially along a one-way street, is able to safely accommodate this occupancy level at a greater density. As a stepmom, safety is the most important issue for me. And to learn that William Street transitioned years ago to a one-way street after a young neighborhood child was hit by a car because of excessive traffic reminds me that life on William Street will never be the same if this project moves forward. It's evident Snider Snider's drywall is not concerned for the safety of the kids of my street as just on Monday this week, they drove two of their company trucks down the wrong way onto William Street and parked both trucks the wrong way facing west witnessed by multiple neighbors. There are numerous issues of concern for me as the owner next door. And since many of my neighbors are planning to come forward tonight, I will focus my comments on one of the most serious issues that will negatively impact my home, which is the creation of an access road. The proposed change to the existing driveway, which is currently only accessible to Ridge, and to extend through the newly proposed parking lot

with added entry, an ex to William Street, will function more like an access road rather than a driveway. The access road will not only serve the residents, it will become a critical pathway for emergency vehicles, visitors, service vehicles, including delivery trucks. The 12 rental units included at least six to be included at least six units with three bedrooms will result in approximately 40 to 45 individuals residing on this property. Given that the occupancy level at 196 Ridge has traditionally only been two to four individuals, this proposed expansion is significant and will greatly increase traffic and demand for parking. I believe this added residential density will exacerbate congestion, reduce pedestrian safety, and create problems among neighbors who need a new street parking which will become much less available. [snorts] Given the issues related to the creation of the access road and the development plan calls for 29 parking spaces and will likely generate 100 or more new trips in the peak hours, I request that the planning board and or the city of Jones Falls arrange for a traffic impact study. Such a study would allow professionals to evaluate and document the impact of the project on traffic congestion, intersection circulation and flow, and public safety. The study should also identify mitigating measures to minimize those impacts. I recommend the study also includes traffic counts to measure the volume of vehicles, bicycles, pedestrians during peak hours and that also review a traffic patterns and speeds including on and off William which is one way Lton Avenue which is a dead end and onto Dixon Ridge which are typically hightraic areas. The study should also forecast future traffic volume given the size of the proposed development and the number of parking spaces given the large parking area proposed by the project. The study should also include a driveway analysis, including the effect of drainage on adjacent properties and the street pavement and the potential of ponding for water and snow on the shoulders. In

addition to having professionals prepare the traffic impact study, I recommend that the city of Glenn's Falls consult with staff. At New York State Department of Transportation, Bridge Street is also known as State Room 900. And moving north, it becomes Ridge Road and connects the city of Glenn Falls to the towns of Queensbury and Lake George into the Aderondac Park. While Rich [snorts] Street is not a state highway and New York DOT review may not be required, their expertise would be most helpful given that the development calls for the construction of an access road onto the property. Thank you

for your time. Uh my name is Jeffrey V. I live at 200 Ridge. Um, my property borders on two sides, both the Okay. Yeah.

Uh, the proposed building. Um, I'm here with my wife, Rachel Martin, and our two children. Um, and like Dave, we've only been uh at that house for 2 years now. We came um for the the character and the charm and the scenery that that area brings. Uh, I bought it because it's a nice safe enclosed space, not because of there's going to be a 6t 18, you know, building in my backyard that I have to stay in. Now, some of the things that uh in addition to the safety concerns, pollution, water runoff is just the environmental impact that this may have on the area. As you know, this is part of the uh it's a double A waterershed area. So, the water everything has to be filtered through um the filtration in the water. the soil has to be studied and made sure that the uh construction and the building can handle that or the environment can handle that. So I just want to make sure that's into consideration. Um again beyond the safety um I we moved here for the character and the charm and for what it is in this presented uh building proposed uh plan is not in the character and charm of LS. Thank you. Uh good evening chair members of the city hall. Uh I am here.

I am Patricia Tage. I reside at 11 Avenue. I am within 500 ft of the uh proposed project on this street. I have lived on Mount Avenue for 37 years and I am the retired director of Heine Community Development for Warren County. I worked for the county for 45 years. My particular interests are rural development, affordable housing, um, main street projects and, uh, farmers markets. And I, as I stand in this building today, I'm pretty proud because I was a member of the DRRi and I was the founding member of the Blitz Falls Farmers Market. So, just a little bit about me. So today I want to talk about the site plan review process. uh my comments are directed at this uh because I think it's important to understand the process and how it relates to the comments that were made today and uh when site plan review took effect and he's actually in 1993 uh the state of New York did the uh performed the enabling legislation that allows cities to use this tool in their zoning ordinances and it was uh meant to be a flexible tool for the planning board so that they could look at projects like this and other ones and make determinations on uh impacts that may occur as a result of an expansion of uh uses that were allowed by right within the zoning uh districts. And I think it was a pretty important tool that they gave to local

planning boards. Um [clears throat] these uh the site plan review process as you know uh look is meant to look at the issues related to uh mitigating factors overdevelopment traffic planning noise and artificial light intrusions. Additionally, it was meant to be that this body will look to see that the project was consistent with the with the city's comprehensive plan and architectural compatibility with the other uh buildings within the adjoining neighborhood. Also, the adequacy of public facilities and services including emergency services and uh the and ultimately to pro uh protect the harmony of historic properties and the surrounding neighborhood. And so your challenge, I guess, is to make sure that this project does not create an undue burden on the joining property owner and the uh existing neighborhoods. uh the expansion of this project with the 12 units uh the 29 parking spaces and the potential of 49 new residents. It's not only the development of the building, but it's everything that comes with new residents coming into the area. Additional cars, activity, um Okay. Thank you very much.

I'm Steve Hibbert. I live 19 Street which is key corner to this development for Williams there. Um, I've got a few few concerns I'd like to mention and then question I'd like to ask the um uh just Glenn Falls has got a once in a generation opportunity now and um businesses opening downtown and people wanting to move here and also wanting to develop and and most of that's a good thing but we have to be sure we get it right and uh I'm I'm not a planning machine or community planning or anything like that but a longtime resident um family was here in 1971. Um the uh what I certainly feel and what I everyone I talk to just feels like the growth of public blocks in holes is it's out of control. It's they're they add to a streetcape quality and neighborhood and and there's just too many of them coming on too fast. And um uh the other my other concern is um uh about uh traffic. Um this development will put cars onto Rich Street and Dixon is right there. And both of those streets are uh have really deteriorated traffic wise and our traffic hotspots, at least in my mind. Um and the uh another concern is with absency landlords. Um on that corner we have four grand old properties with ornate features and and two of them especially are way oversized for for today's single families. Um but the um the the two with emergency landlords are run down. There's frequently broken down furniture put on the curb as um uh the police are often called different places and and Rich Street is kind of at a in my mind is a in a unique um moment in his development. is there's some wonderful resident reservoir here

tonight and then there's uh some of these mostly absentee landlord properties which have been broken up into little rabbit horns or chicken coops and those are the ones that are dragging the neighborhood down and I think with the um sort of growth potential of Blitz Falls right now it's a chance to lift street not not make it another um place with with um effic and and another apartment complex. Um so uh I think that um uh moving to my question um in this time when we've got a uh I'm not quite sure what the term is a new master plan I think in the works which implies to me that the current master plan is is pretty old and um and I'm sure that zoning and master plans are never um comprehensive or perfect and there's always um little um interpretations in each day the previous speaker was referring to. And so during this time uh who's looking after the the character and the and the valuable assets which in my mind is these grand old houses with interesting features who's looking after the the character of Glenn Halls that makes it a a charming place to live and um and uh gives it his character. I assume it's mostly you guys. I'll just wrap it up. Um and uh so I hope we can um hook into this.

Hello, I'm uh John Peek, resident of 12 William Street since 1988. Uh, I've been walking and going down the street a lot and this house has been abandoned for many, many years. It's uh Arctic uh arch arch I can't Yeah, the brick building. It's it's an old building. It fits into the character and I'm just glad to see someone come in and use it. Now, I I may be bucking the tide here, but I'm also a certified was a certified professional erosion sentiment control, and I looked at that site plan review and their detail. Your erosion sentiment control plan is good. They have fencing, attractive fencing, 6 foot high. Their plantings are good. I I've seen a lot of good things about here, but the one thing that I see missing is where's the sewage going to go? There's a Can I borrow your city? Yeah, City. But the the previous owner are put into the score line and the clean out is right about here. And I don't see here any uh actual detail where the sewer line is going to

be down. that when you go in and construct, are you going to start digging for a foundation plus the store only? So, there is there is some things missing, but I also was involved with changing William Street to a one-way street. And I took a informal survey after that child that was mentioned was put in a wheelchair for the rest of her life and many other times because it's the shortest shortest way from going from Dicks to RI uh to Bay. We had 93 cars in half an hour. Now since it's been one way has it reduced a lot. I think 29 parking spaces for 43 could do did you reduce the number of parking spaces?

That's well that was a good thing because that was one of my concerns. Why do you need 29 spaces for 18 units or whatever it is? So I'm sorry.

Okay. Hello. My name is Sarah Schultz and me and my husband Michael Moer live at 7 Vanderheaden Street. Um, our backyard backs up to the large yard at 196 Ridge and we've got a lot of concerns that we share with our neighbors. Um, the addition of the six town homes would be a dramatic shift in the population of parcel. The property list had four people living there and with this proposal we could see 28 to 56% or 28 to 56 people residing there. The proposal leads to an overcrowding of the land which would put a strain on current infrastructure. So given

so given the projected size of dwelling units, parking, estimated occupancy levels, you know, I'd really like the city to take a close look at the impact of all the city services, police, fire, water, snow, yard, yard waste, and snow removal. And then given the existing character of this part of the city, this presents an undue concentration of population. You know, we're a lowdensity neighborhood, mostly duplexes and single family homes. So, if this project's approved, it would greatly change the aesthetic and the ambiance of our neighborhood. And then, aside from the overcrowding of the area, we have concerns about the increase in light and noise pollution. There's also the issue of uh impervious surfaces, the parking lot and the access road being added over green space. I'm worried that there's more runoff and flooding issues. and then you know share the concerns with the increase in traffic. So good evening. My name is George Goodman, George W Goodland. I live in Bolton Landing and I thought I'd give you a little bit of historical perspective. My grandparents met Sarah Cawan Wake Goodwin and Scott Goodwin as neighbors on Bridge Street. They got married and they lived in the house which was then 127 Ridge. It's across from the Quaker church. And if you look at how kind of Glenn's Falls was laid out, it was laid out so that houses had enough space for their home. And I I was going to bring photographs, but this is bumper forward a day. So, another time I'd like to show you some photographs of my grandfather

took in the 1880s, 1890s. Um, but what was I going to say? Um, my father was born in that house in 1896. And um, the way Queensbury or Buns Falls was laid out seemed like it was you had enough homes, enough space in your home or your property for your home, for your horse and carriage and stuff like that. And it was designated. And it seems like now it's gone into much more congestion. I love the beauty of the neighborhoods and it seems like this is a a challenging time because it's going from single residences to as much as you could get and it seems like this project is out of character. I also have heard that you're putting a comprehensive master plan together and it seems like historical perspectives of properties should be appreciated. Um I think this is way too much volume for the character of the neighborhood. Thank you. Good evening. My name is John Tran and with my wife, we live at 12 Vanderhiden Street. Uh we're 32year residents of the neighborhood and we reside within the 500t impact zone. Our house, our home is across the street from the properties on Vanderhiden and back up the 196 uh ridge. Our concern is the light intrusion that will occur on the project with the project as planned.

The new owners of 196 bridge want to change the historic Victorian house into a six-bedroom apartment and separate second building, adding six three-bedroom town homes for a total of 12 units plus 29 parking spaces. While we'd love to see the owner restore this beautiful and historic home, we don't believe this lot, which sits partially along a one-way street, is able to satisfy safely accommodate the occupancy level and greater density that comes with the current plan. We're strongly opposed to the project if it includes the development of the second building in the lot with six towns and 29 parking spaces. We believe the proposed project by Snider's Drywall presents an overcrowding of land and light pollution on neighboring properties. We believe the city's code calls for all districts and projects including multif family projects to have reasonably uniform elimination levels and therefore we request the planning board impose restrictions on the developer of 196 ridge to minimize the undesirable side effects of excessive illumination such as light trespass and light pollution which create a nuisance for the neighbors. Uh we ask all exterior lights be designed and located in such a manner as to prevent objectionable light and glare from spilling across property lines to all neighbor neighboring properties including homes on Ridge William Vanderhe and Hunter streets. We also ask that all lights installed on canopies with roof overhangs be recessed so that the lens covers are flush with the bottom surface of the canopy or overhang and that there will be no lights mounted on the sides or top of canopies or overhangs. In conclusion, we recognize that the city of Glennfall that as the city of Glennfall grows and

prosper, we need uh the need for all types of housing is required. The rehabilitation piece of this project is a great way to move forward. We need to be thoughtful of the impact while working to achieve this housing goal. to introduce this project. Design will create unne unnecessary lighting, increase traffic, noise, environmental and aesthetic issues, decrease quality of life, and loss of property value. Thank you.

Good evening. Um, my name is Ellen Van. I live at 11 Vanderhaden. I've only been here a year. I am a transplant from Florida, believe it or not. So, I don't have any like historical stories about the area. I'm just learning and I think it's pretty awesome and um meeting with the neighbors and they're telling them all these things about the properties has just been pretty amazing. Um, I want to piggyback on what John said about the lighting because, um, from my bedroom window, I see these beautiful trees that are that center property, which will become a parking lot. And I don't want to have, you know, lights shining in my window or cars because, you know, the access road that's going to drive through the property is going to bring headlights whether it's in the morning, whether it's in the evening. And um you know I wake up with the headlights and you know also illuminating the property with porch lights and whatever lights that need to be it's going to be way too much on that many pieces of properties you know. So um the other thing I wanted to mention is if they are truly uh families and they bring children where are these children going to play? You know there's no place for them to play. It's a parking lot and then there's a street and as other neighbors have said, it's not a safe place for kids to play in the street. So, um, that's all I have to say about that. Thank you. the building. Um, as Dave said, I lived at 50 William Street for 55 years. Uh, raised five kids there. It was very quiet, especially once the street became one way. I don't live there anymore, but my heart

still these neighbors have really stepped up. They formed a coalition. They got a logo. I don't know if you see the logo. The traffic. It was everybody's job. I'm probably repeating what everybody said, but the point is everybody here has lived in old houses 20, 30, 40 years, single family homes. Everybody will be attacked by this country. We have absolutely no objection to them developing and fixing up the house on the corner, putting apartments there on the corner. We're totally opposed to everything being fine now. It's a very bad law. It needs a lot of restructuring, water, sewer. They talk about putting road, but they're just putting driveways. our truck, our trucks, fire trucks, anybody going to get in there, they're going to have to build a road, a circular road from land from bridge all the way around to the oneway street of William. The traffic is going to be hilarious. Many people have done studies and we're going to demand studies. Okay. Uh I don't know if you brought up the fact that Nick Street is not yet. So we have to have a a traffic sign. Everybody on that street has cushioning from trees. It's kept neighborhood quiet. It it it's a green space. That's what just like this green space. So those trees will have a lot of the trees will have to come down. beautiful standard trees between my house and the property myself

and that's going to uh create a lot of noise in the neighborhood. It's affecting people on both sides. So not just the eight houses but 12 and maybe more houses all those five street William we would love to see these guys fix up that house on the corner it be it's a nice house it's kind of like way I've seen over 55 years I've seen that house material if they want to fix it up and make it nice again and facing street all in favor of But we're not in favor of what's going to go beyond. It's a bad lot and I just think urgent. Thank you very much. Hi, my name is Lisa Davis. I live at 48 William Street. Um, while I don't directly abut um 196 Ridge, I live right next to Britney who's at 50 and I see the trees and green space from my home. Um, I've always looked at Glenn's Falls as you have the city and then you have all these neighborhoods. Jackson Heights, Kensington, Big Cross, uh Sanford Street, which is you know gone now, but I feel like um there's been a ton of housing being built in the area, which don't get me wrong is a very good thing, but I feel like the city is moving into the neighborhoods with the size of this

project. Um, like others have said, we have no problem with the main building being fixed up. It's been in disrepair for years and years and years. I've been in my house, 29 of those. Um, but we strongly object to the six town homes that will have a huge impact on our lives and on our neighborhood. Thank you. Uh, good evening. I'm Judy Caligger. I live at 11 Lton Avenue. Been there for about 40 years. Um, I've also been the chair for the city of Gwens Falls for 18 years and serve as currently the chair of the um, Gwens Falls IDA. Um, I don't want to repeat what some of my neighbors have already said, so let me uh, focus on a few other points. Um although I do agree with them that the extensive size of the proposed development varies greatly from the neighboring properties and they're mostly one and two family residential homes. Um and while I support the idea of restoring this historic building, um I'm not in favor of building a second uh building on this lot uh for six additional units plus the 29 parking spaces. I think of greatest concern and it's already been raised here today for me is building an access road through that road that uh connects Ridge Road onto Williams Street and the traffic that's going to be through there. I fully support the whole idea of doing a traffic impact study. I hope that the city of Hunts Falls will do that or that

you'll require the developer to have a traffic impact study done. I think it needs to be done extensively and Britney already talked in detail about that and I hope that you would cover all of those points. The property is close to working wells including one that's within 25 ft of the property. I wonder if you as a planning board have any kind of restriction on development near working wells and if you don't, what steps will you require Snider's drywall to protect these wells during both construction and operation? Also, the property, as you know, is within the watershed district. Like also to know what steps will be taken by Snider's drywall to protect the watershed and will the city impose any restrictions on development for watershed protection including storm water runoff, pollution prevention strategies, uh protection of green space, and any kind of ecological uh restoration. Uh based on recent activity that I've witnessed and my neighbors have witnessed at 196 Ridge Street, it appears that Snider's drywall had been engaged in asbestous abatement or remediation or some closely related work. I would like to know the extent of the work if proper safety protocols were followed and can the city ensure that the owner complied with all federal and state regulations. Has the abatement or remediation work been completed? And did it involve containment or cleanup? And if if if it was remediation, has the risk been entirely removed uh from the property? Uh those are a few of my main concerns. Be happy to answer the questions you have. Thank you.

Hi, I'm Kate Austin and I live at 187 Ridge, so I'm close. And I'm um involved in the community. And part of what I've been doing for the last 15 years is trying to attract more people to Glenn Falls to live here um and uh enjoy this awesome community that we have. And so it's wonderful to hear that that's working and that we need more housing. Um however, I do have concerns about the infrastructure that's in place in in this neighborhood and whether or not it can handle what is being proposed. Um, specifically, um, Jackson Heights, where my kids go, um, lost their art room this year, which I don't think everybody knows, um, due to overenrollment. And so, I think we just need to pause and think about responsible and sustainable growth. And that's what I'd like to say today. Thank you. Good evening. My name is Rachel Vog. I'm a resident at 200 Ridge Street Tree. Uh my husband Jeff V spoke earlier and those are two little ones causing a reckless in the background which I apologize for. However, you both wanted to be here. Um you've heard many of the concerns already listed this evening, so I'm not going to repeat all of that. However, I would like to um kind of reiterate the real concern about the storm water drainage due to the increase of imperous surface. Um I know that they do have some plans included um as as far as um a few dry wells, but is that really sufficient? I mean, I think that was discussed as for the parking area, but what about the rest of the property? is that's going to be substantial increase in the amount of imperous

surface which is not existing currently. Um and I know that um the city already has difficulty with storm water drainage and um pre-existing flooding issues. Um, so I think having a plan to really um thoroughly um investigate how much that impact is going to or excuse me, how much that increase is going to impact the current storm water system um is really important um because that can lead to a lot of issues moving forward for the city, but also for the residents that are right there, which I mean this um my house is on like two of the right out the side there and in and that would be my backyard. Um in addition to that, I know um somebody spoke a little bit about erosion, but um um as part of the green space and the storm water drainage um I know somebody did mention the sweat plan, the storm water pollution prevention, um part of the like um compliance with that and then the MS4, which is like a federally mandated um for the doublea wershed um requirement that has to be followed as well. um requires buffers, environmental buffers, and I know that we do have some plans to take down some of the trees that are not as healthy, and that's appreciated. However, um what's the plan for that? We have to have environmental buffers um added into the property, and then they have to be maintained over the year and throughout like throughout the year, but then over the years. So, is that something that the going to plan to take care of? Is somebody going to be in charge of that? Um, and then the other concern I have is the garbage. I know that it is kind of silly to talk about, but we have um squirrels that go into our garbage all the time, and I'm concerned with the location of a large bin um being so

close um to the homes with the amount of garbage that's coming from that size and scope of a project. And then when people move in more of the um like the edible type stuff um I think that's going to be um an issue as well since we have seen raccoons in the area. Um I think that's it. I really appreciate your time and letting us all speak. Um but I really do hope that we um as the city and the planning um board investigate this to the fullest extent because there are definitely some environmental concerns uh that would impact all of us. Thank you. Hello again. U members of the board, thanks for listening to her voting this evening. Uh Carrie and Barb Shrader live at 206 Ridge Street. We also back up to the property in question. You've now heard the many sincere concerns of our neighbors, and I want to remind you that you carry a legal, ethical, and moral obligation to seriously consider those concerns before rendering a decision. While the applicant may technically be conforming and checking off all the zoning boxes, that fact alone does not guarantee that this project is a good fit for this neighborhood or that it will result in a positive outcome for the community at large. Your duty is to weigh the many repercussions that this project will produce both today and into the future. Many other developers are watching this very closely because this proposal will setup the density of this project and this parcel. It's physically impossible to increase the density of one property seven times and not have a drastic

effect on all those factors that have been mentioned tonight. And though it may be legal under the present zoning ordinance to develop and build a compound of this size, it's ethically not responsible. Such a development will detract from the value of the surrounding homes, upset the balance and beauty of the block, and fundamentally change the character of the community. While we applaud the applicant's desire to renovate and reserve the original historic mansion at 196, we oppose the addition of a second structure on the single parcel, especially the concept of building a strip of multiple town homes and an inciliary parking lot. First and foremost, this project fundamentally violates the principle of zon incompatibility and neighborhood character. Our area is defined by its historic single family homes, spacious lots, and a consistent lowdensity aesthetic that has been re preserved for generations. The introduction of a highdensity multi-unit townhouse complex is a radical departure from this established pattern. It creates a stark visual disharmony that will permanently erode the historic charm and residential integrity that make our neighborhood both unique and desirable. We're here to protect that very fabric of our community. This proposal is not merely a new development. It's an incompatible intrusion that threatens the character, safety, and history of our longestablished 18th century single family home neighborhood. I was going to draw tell you about a number of studies that have been done that talk about when you take single family homes and single family neighborhoods and make them into residential and into rental complexes and how it affects the value of the properties. But it also brings in a

higher rate of crime here in building permits. Bottom line, please seriously consider our start.

Do you want it red? We pretty much Mr. Chairman, I have a um letter I just wanted to be sure that it that the planning board received from Patrick and Donna Clark who were our neighbors there. And I can I'd be happy to read it if that's okay. Sure. Okay. Patrick and Donna Clark, 203 Street.

We have I just wanted to be sure you had that. Okay. And I did speak with Bob Landry who is unable to be here tonight, but I believe he expressed some of his concerns to the board or to certain members. Thank you. Even

um this property is 49,462

and it pursued to our code we could have had 19 units 19.78 units and instead the developers suggesting only 12. Correct. And your green space is more than 50%. Correct.

And our code specifically encourages under the RM multifamily residential districts. This is just for the board in case you haven't looked at the code. It specifically says the general purpose and intent of this res residential zoning district is to provide for one, two, and multifamily dwellings within the city of Falls and where the conversion of residential structures beyond one or two family category is permitted and encouraged. It is the intent of this district is to permit multifamily dwellings and areas which are able to accommodate greater densities. So our code specifically promotes this type of project in the RM.

Thank you. I just want to make sure the board is aware of that.

Um obviously a lot of emotion uh obviously a lot of items that were brought forward by the neighbors. Um the Schneers obviously have spent a great deal of time in our office spent a great deal of time looking at not only the zoning code but also the building itself. Um some of the questions that were asked um the biggest one that jumped to my mind was the asbestous report. Asbestous report we have copies of it that were given to the city building department. Uh they were made aware of the asbestous abatement that was taking place. Uh the building has been 100% cleared. you have the clear uh report on that. So all gas has been removed from the property. Uh none of it remains. None of it be encapsulated. There's nothing that's that's left there

and that was done in the building department. Correct. It was part of the uh interior demolition. Correct. They had done. Um traffic was was discussed. Um, anything under a 100 trips a day is considered minor impact by all traffic studies. Um, we've done several of them, not necessarily for this project, but we've done several traffic studies in the past. Uh, it's been mentioned many times that there are 29 parking spaces. There's 23 parking spaces.

We we eliminated several. We provided more than what we required. We backed that off. request of of this board before. [clears throat] Um the drainage does have to be contained on our site. We're aware of that. We provided a drainage report. We did test pits. Uh the information is located on the drawings. Uh the sands that are on that site are well drained. Uh we did not hit any groundwater whatsoever. We got to over 9 ft in a couple of places. Uh we didn't hit we hit one rock. Didn't uh that whole lot. Um the perimeter pavement that's in front of the town houses absorbs water. That's what it's meant to do. There's a bed of stone that's underneath that pavement that is 18 to 24 in deep. That's the reserve capacity for that storm water.

[clears throat] The uh the drywalls and the catch basins are meant to pick up the water so that it runs into those catch basins. The drywalls permeate the water into the soil. That's what they're meant to do. These plans were provided to the city engineer. I don't have any comments that came back from them. Um we know it was provided to the fire department did give us some uh some feedback. We addressed the feedback that he gave us. Otherwise, I would use There's four drywalls. Is that correct? Correct. Plus the perman.

Yeah, there's Yeah, this this area back here is where the parking lot is. There's a catch basin. The state DEC does not allow storm water to go directly into a drywall. It's a sedimentation issue. Um when sand and stuff gets spread on the driveways, we have to capture that sand before it goes into a drywall. All of our drive wells have a catch basin in front of them, which is what's required. Catch basins have a sump in them. It allows the sediment to filter out and it's a maintenance issue. Has to be taken care of. The owners have to take care of that. It's in maintenance period. Um sewer connection. Uh both buildings are connected to the sewer or this building will be connected to the sewer. Uh this line up here we have had um somebody on site with a snake to make sure that it is open because the building has been unoccupied for so long. Uh they have been through that. We we know that we have to go to the connection for this building because we have to connect the new building into this building and this new townhouse building will connect to it. Again, these plans have been provided to the city engineer. They're aware of it and we're going to the water. Both buildings uh upgraded new water systems because both buildings have to be fully sprink both both buildings are fully Uh, is that just the bed?

No, that's a clean out place. It's got C that's right. Yeah.

Um, as far as the vegetation, uh, yes, some of the big trees are coming out. Some of the big walnut trees, some of them are split about halfway up and are in danger of coming down. back the wind that we're going to get tonight and tomorrow if they don't come out. Um we are filling in if we where we're taking trees out along this property line. We're filling back in with coniferous trees that are going to have their ret. We're aware we're aware of this and there is a 6ft buffered fence. The building sits back farther than what's required by the cognitive. We move the building away from that so that there's more space between those propert is left open. None of these trees that are on the perimeter are being touched. There is one that is in the middle that has to come down. Obviously, it's in the middle of a lot. Uh there's also one tree that's laying on the ground back there. We found out came down quite a while ago. Um, lighting uh lighting is brought up several times. All of our lighting is dark dark sky compliant. Uh, it's all downcast pictures. The lighting for this parking lot back here is bother lights, not pole mounted lights, the ball lights down low, similar to the parking structure or the parking lot that was done for headwaters over here on Broad Street where we have very low light. It's just meant to light the ground. It will be those ballers will be lower than the 6T fence.

So you don't have 6T. Yeah. 6 foot solids, you know, to prevent any of people coming in and out into the property. I think I think we've addressed all the questions brought up some place for kids.

So this area back here while it is completely enclosed, we have taken away a lot of this parking area. This space back here is being put a piece of playground equipment, things like that in that in that area, but it is enclosed by fence. You continue both of our tied to water and sewer and we're well away with our storm water is well

I I have some really joint properties that have active wells Judy mentioned that there's 14 wells within 20 ft 25 25 ft from what from but your building is all property 25 and you're not there's no there's no onsite there's no [sighs]

and a lot of concern about traffic. Um, as far as the entrances and exits on William and Andre, I mean, I don't know if it would work, but would with it being one way in, one way out in your out

in I would say in bridge and then out William because then you avoid so much traffic down William because who's going to want to take a left on bridge and a left off bridge? I'm just I'm throwing out there just from a traffic perspective because then you're only coming on full pulling on this one. You're only obviously coming off happy to post it that way.

But people it's a it's a it's what's considered an uninforcable action. Um we can certainly put signs up that says insurance only coming here. Well, I mean if it's worth safety action, it might not be as much, but depending on but that's more so if it's like no left turn or whatever. So, um I mean if you put like no left turn I'm not saying that. I'm just saying I know there's a lot of traffic concerns but that might avoid people going to take a left on the bridge and a left to get in. It just might make them go elsewhere to take a right into the property. Yes sir. Um just to detail some of the things board members. We have a big group here tonight. So let's make sure that everybody can hear us. Um, I have a prayer not questioned and answered. Um, but some of these I got tonight. Um, and again, I apologize, but I think you do. Just just starting out. You mentioned something about in the back corner lot and it kind of looks like there's kind of a front line tree line type of thing. There's going to be events around the back.

You mentioned something about these these trees are going to stay, right? All the trees are in good shape, but nothing needs to be done to those. There's one tree here. These are in these areation. Okay. Um I'm in no position to to make a judge on it. You mentioned um you mentioned along the uh I'll call it the whole property the day of property trees down the side of their lot. All right. Um, I've had conversations and some input from some of the other neighbors. Uh, Britney's going to have trees along there like that, but there's five other properties that they're not going to be getting new trees in. But you're mentioning some of the existing trees all Okay. So, all the existing trees are going to stay and the fence and the fence gets added.

Okay. On our property. I don't know if that answer anything. Okay. That's on that's on this. No, that's

Oh, yeah. Back back here. There's There's three that are right around the corner back here. All new here trees that were shaped along here. These are all this cater. 23 25 large.

Yes, there's both and there any standard practice as far as you know if you have a 6 foot and you put in a situation or green Is there a you know same thing that tree? Yeah, we we we've noted the size and this again came from Martin our arborist. He recommended trees that really well in those soils. It's on C-2. Yeah.

Yeah. This is our so two three 2in calendar that's a 2in cal that's how big the stock tree is I think the concern is so much the diameter of the tree

well that that's that judgment is how how big it is I mean that's that's their terminology uh 2 and in caliber is is a 2 and 1/2 in diameter tree above the ground, which that gives you an idea of how thick that tree is going is going to be plant. You know, these aren't we're not talking about samples. We're talking about a tree that big ball on it is is probably 20 to 25 ft tall when it's put in the ground. I think I think the thing you got to think about is these people are not looking for a solution that 20 years five or six. Um you mentioned the patio with so that's been eliminated. Um the trees along the low 14 property, right? You are going to be leaving the trees in that back parking area.

Yes.

Um is there any limit for apartments or vehicles these people could have? Is that part of your lease requirement? I mean I when I moved into your three bed house six cars well I guess the reason why I asked is cuz that that parking area that I you know I would assume for you know storage it says bank feature parking expansion is necessary that was part of the original out so And it has labeled now. Does this mean that this is an area that's possible for future work?

Yes. Yes. Okay. If if if it's required, which you did, you know, they're looking at the leases now. I mean, they can set up the lease to say more than two cars.

More more cars there than than they But again, you've taken those away. We met one and a half one and a half spaces per apartment. What happens if you expand our parking lot to be taken out? Well, there's still room. There's still four spots. You still have room. Yeah. If you It looks like scale. If you added six,

there's still room in front of the space. And those spaces don't get there. There's a 10ft set from the from the property line to where we can build it. And we're well inside that set, right? So we're at least 15 ft from the property line with any of the parking. You know, 15 ft from here to that door. Well, I guess my concern when I first read this was the in essence eliminated six or eight parks. You got to say, "Oh, we can always go back." Yeah, they're bad spaces.

It just seems the intent is to not we have no reason to go. You mean the code that you have right

and you need to if you did expand that parking be excessive 1 five spaces per unit 12 and that would 50%. So all that um you use the term that the utility HVAC is likely to be on the back. I guess I would like to know whether it's back. Yes. All right.

We have two fronts. So [snorts] um I wasn't where are these going to be? You say individual heat pumps. Is there going to be one compressor for each department?

There'll likely be one for each their size. So they um I know another concern was expressed to me was how visible that when I when I went over and looked at that property, that property looks like it drops four to 5 ft from Bridge Street to the back. And some of the concern is is this existing front building with the addition are you how much of that back are you going to see? Is it from a ridge? Yeah. Right.

It is the building itself. The proposed town building is shorter than the building up front.

Right. And as it sits lower front street, you might as you drive through you got 346 back. I mean there's no record tonight. So it is going to be completely covered. All right. So so far it is. All right. Um the talk you mentioned about studies you mentioned 100 trips a day is that a state road I mean what

within within this within the city it's maintained by the city okay so there's no trips a day what's that mean that's that's trips by the residents of this either in or Okay. All right. And that's considered minor. Yes. Where by by traffic stud where's that number come from?

It's usually done by a traffic study. Um we like I said we've done we did not do one for this. Uh we have several departments we have going in DOT codes X number is that you got 23. So you got 23. for each car coming and going four times per day and that's in a 24-hour period. So there's there's no requirement or anything. Um there was concern about light pollution. You mentioned that there would be style in the back area. Um, I didn't see anything on the top house. There's no lighting no overall lighting panel or is it on it's on the building themselves. Each each one each one of the apartments has a recessed entry,

right? And that will have a recessed light underneath it. So village right there. Um, all right. There's all four of the building, all four of the apartments in this building have separate entrances. All four of them have canopies over the top of them. Again, those are all recessed. Two units that were added here have a front entry and a rear entry. Again, both of those have canopies over the top of them. Recess.

I think that's shown on a covered entry recess light. There it was brought up and again this is my about environmental problems because of because of water is that is that something that's required by construction?

Well, again we're we're maintaining all of our storm water on site. So none of our storm water uses all captured in the ground and percolation rates. We pour water into a percolation bowl at 48 in below grade. A 5 lb bucket weighing less than we uh people concerned about noise. I noticed that he has a noise coordinates. It's almost like we had a lot of, you know, crazy neighbors and they're playing basketball and there may autos You know, I appreciate the fact you made that that building somewhat victorious. Um, you know, I realize it's not practically thinking more, but I attempt should be making for that back to the front building. And because it's kind of interesting to me actually the more I look at that building, the nicest part of that property is on the beach. It's the way it steps down and everything. I mean, it's beautiful bridge, but the side is spectacular. And you know, you end up more build. We we've we've made efforts to take the gingerbread that's on the front facade and mimic it on the townhouse itself. We have separate roofs above the garage

doors that are being quiet. We have overfl not made this house too bad. Um and then maybe just public concern that there was mention of the uh stone water that's standard practice to the city. They have they have been these fun.

No comments. We didn't have any others to watch it lights up Yeah. So big house and water. So just make sure

well with the with the sprinkler system we're required connection on both building the sprinkler northeast fire protection uh is the one we're doing the sprinkler design that stuff. Um, would you mind?

Yes. You guys question um I was interested in what was talking about earlier. I don't know. I think that would be an interesting idea to see the difference. Um this that's the reason.

Okay. Um, I think that's really nice. Um, what about on front elevation? You have the two. Thank you. Um, did you look at doing four or five? Yeah, we looked at we looked at adding more

too much. So very these two. We have two small ones and one large on top. Again we we brought the gingerbread from the main house over the corner. This this whole front sh Um to some people's minds. got um yeah um I can't feel good about the times that to me it's I know what the code is. I know that at some point it's a zone for that to be something that was fine on this much square footage or acreage, but uh I just that doesn't pass the gut check for me. I think it's been done as

well as it can be done. you know, I think it was it was uh it was well intended, but as a as a resident and seeing things like this happen over the last many years, um it's just not it's just not something that I think is appropriate when the main house is going to be having uh six units potentially, probably not, but potentially 18 people depending on the two-bedroom apartments and how the kids stuff in. Um, that's what I agree with Chris. One of the, you know, I think that the planning is, you've done a good job designing the project and you've answered all the questions. I appreciate that, but I haven't heard a single neighbor supporting it. I've heard an awful lot. Somebody mentioned that there's 18 people in this group, 18 homes from this group opposing it. And I just figured that say $5,000 a taxes, that's $90,000 a year taxpayers who are are not in favor of this. And it'd be hard to to go and get value taxpayers. Even even though that the project is well designed, I I just don't think it's acceptable in in this environment. Um, yeah, it's a hard thing to hear people from the neighborhood. Uh, a lot of these people are very passionate, but I believe there's a lot of other people that live on that street that aren't here. make sure you know that that's the way it goes outside and not showing up. I I

you know I'm not saying I'm either way on this very openminded with it a lot of issues that have been a lot of things been expressed here. Um the one thing driving down the street, spending time there and and really looking at this project. Um the one thing I really to change for me the end of the condo building or the past living building to make it sound better. I guess I would really like to see that look like a house. I think that would change the look of it from the street. Most of the building is hidden from Ridge Street. You're going to have a bunch of trees that are going to grow up and and if it is approved or whatever happens on the road, I can see that being somewhat almost non-existent. Um I would like to hear a traffic study with all the apartments that are being built all over the the state and in our area right now. I'm sure there's numbers that we say now on those traffic patterns. Um I did have some issues are going to be there. Fire is is there. Northeast fire will do the flow test to make sure there isn't water. Um I will do my own research and find out about the school issue. I was just recently asked by a representative from the city school district when all these new apartments are going to come online that are already approved because of the issue of the schools are getting crowded. So that's something that needs to needs to be entered. Um in there um the play space you can see something factored in on that taking care of light

pollution for the most part. Um there isn't any of that. The AC unit everything's really well designed. Um but doesn't fit the character of the neighborhood. Are you are you going to ask for more information? We're not going to vote on the applicant what information

um materials uh you said brick um around the ends and stuff. You have questions on social

wondering if there was some samples again. Like I said, maybe redraw the end of that building there. Yeah. I always wonder if um this was a comment I made the very first time. This one section of the street, you've got an here and I think it's a beach. um that were despite rejeing a facial

housey um traditional ground really focusing on the idea of you know that is back there planting that up so maybe nobody knows it's well again we we're running privets all the way down the privet additional new additional boundaries. I privacy for privacy back from William Street

just um So we have the three things the sample brick sample maybe rework the end of the one elevation

you did a great job making you know that addition have that look and then traffic that's the biggest that you know is like when you're over there like being over there today at 10:00 in the morning there's a 17 unit building across the street and there was one car you know they had 12 parking spots for uh 21 units so um but we need questions and obviously there's a lot of concern for these people represent so I think it's kind of the back here so close to the dictionary it's very close to I'm not going to call major intersection but bigger intersection

major intersect the fact that we have a traffic problems every comes in and out to me kind of sense we're free I've lived here my whole life and we had people for some reason pouring in halls and Well, housing is an issue and a lot of people so I think that having veterans is a nice change.

It's a good response that that's what's interesting is that right I'm sorry there's too many wants and we have an applicant that brings in three and there's opposition to that. But you know what the board is looking for? Yes. Okay.

I ask you a question, you know, kind of getting car. How does a traffic study work? Cuz there was a traffic study done by Hawkins and then that was bad and we feared that that was slam. I said no. The fact that they did it was, you know, they wanted a bad independent driver. How does a notice independent traffic study traffic study has to be done by a certified traffic engineer?

Okay. So, certified make up numbers satisfy one. It's the same

and that study for we have a lot of people commenting on that keyboard for course here that was done for the stewards going in here on on Glen Street and in Washington and that and that has proven since that has haven't uh you know it was set aside to make a right hand turn lane only coming out Sherman Avenue which hasn't materialized because the city hasn't done that yet but the traffic has not been

Thank you. Second call mayor.

Uh I'm Deon Rosel, the zoning and planning coordinator for the city. I just want to let the public that was here know uh this project will not be noticed again. It is your obligation to follow it for when it will appear on the agenda again. We have no uh requirement from the state to further uh further notice any applicants since I'm sorry. Uh for those who couldn't hear that, there is no mandate in the state for us to continue to send mailers or notice this. You'll have to follow the agendas as they come out to know when this will be appearing again in front of the board. Next item on our agenda this evening is site US25-0014 corporation owners of tax number 509416-43-1 commonly known as 15 prime island represented by Ethan Hall secretary to expand their existing facility by 50,000 400 square ft of purpose storage factory and additional office space chapter 220- 21. Excuse me. Take your conversations outside please. Architecture review AR25-005 corporation owners tax number 309.16-23-1

colony knows 15 primes island represented by Ethan Hall architecture to expand their existing facility by 50,400 square ft of storage manufacturing and additional office space of blood zoning code chapter number 220-21B district. Thank you for your patience. Good evening. For your record with me tonight, I have Nick Car from the uh from Flomatic. Um we have submitted to

Excuse me. Not a problem. Thank you. Um, so we've submitted to this board, uh, we were here for sketch planning review a few months ago. We've submitted to this board the final, uh, site plans, uh, which were developed by the environmental design partnership. Um, that was really the crux of our, um, what we needed when we were here last time. Obviously, the building is nothing's really changed with the building. We've just more clearly defined everything that's going on with the site. Um, if uh uh just Jacob, sorry, Jacob Fchen from EDP is here tonight. If there are any specific questions on the site, uh it's it's a very extensive site plan that was done by them. Um they've been through all the storm water management. They've dug all the test holes and done all the infiltration testing. Um, we have gone as far as doing geotechnical information testing for the building expansion itself. Uh, we're expecting that report to come back anytime within the next couple weeks so we know what's going on there. But, um, nothing really has changed when we showed you this project a few months ago. So, if there are any specific questions, I would take those. [snorts] Just hold on. Would anyone from the public like to comment on this?

I just have the fact that this is situated

[snorts] There's no one side. There are no wetlands. There's no list of wetlands. Um the canal is behind it. A fair amount of white trail on the opposite side. decision you make from past experience I had army engineers

yeah nothing proposing changes what was there I think it's a great place for a site here now you know down there and things like But we put the edition on 2018 match right now. um did the uh first 2018 master buildings um put together at different times we sales since I became president in 2020 and we need more manufacturing facility we're going to add jobs So we plan on 50,0004 was 32,000 starting and u that was very smooth. So uh basically this space manufacturing workers hiring people had 121 parking spaces. So this that will max out our capacity at max and you know there's some buildings that are there. Um so we want to you know bring jobs to to fall. Uh I mean the last put on I think improved a little [snorts] you guys use the space you guys represent

everything's needs as far as a growing successful company. So like Mr. Sure.

I know manufacturing probably not introducing any technique. Uh so we're very environmentally sensitive 9001 not introducing anything just a lot of stuff and you're going to increase your employees No, I'm familiar with the property in

I I do remember from last time one of the neighbors was concerned about so

everything is everything is dark. Yeah. The only the only lights that we're going to have on this back side of the building lights are on this side of the building which is the opening side the back here. This is the extension. These will be truck boxed area. Again those all have canopy mounted lights. There are no lights on this portion of the building. Uh we will have some lights here. faces towards uh Poly Road. Um and then on the back side which faces the fire access road, there's three individual uh got four individual exits that come off from that side of the building. All have open

um parking lot riding full mountain. Yes. And those beyond they are free shift building but this also future shift. So therefore, you're not going to have parking lot sites maybe crack, right?

So the the existing parking lot just the the existing parking lot lights and adding a couple heads talking existing holes, but right now we're parking them. Yeah. Yeah. So I, you know, just I didn't dig into I'm not going to dig into the technical stuff, but like just putting it out there that that I know you guys are sensitive to that. So Jacob provided a lighting plan. I think it shows the photo plan on the last sheet of less than one foot.

That's all. And then I I think you mentioned truck traffic might increase about the same about the same shipping and receiving on this here and stuff here. Obviously has trucks there have shipping seating here. Uh and this would be all facility come off office space. Um I then put a uh cafeteria for larger cafeteria for up to 100 people working at the facility. How many jobs had well too I would say uh in the next 5 years I hope 15 employees but my plan is to go and I have we have 62 uh 63 um have open sight. Um you have the structure water management areas on that cold side protects the rest of it. Gives it a nice smoke going along. I was down there watching my guy John today. And it is that whole thing that the city did down there. It's it's getting nicer. I have no issues with this now. Seeker

with respect to seeker are classified as an unlisted action. The applicant has provided a short environmental assessment form. We need to review part two and three. Number one, will the proposed action create a material contract for an adopted land use plan or zoning regulation? No. Will the proposed action result in a change or intensity use land? No. Will the proposed action potentially actually it will be more by design, but it's totally

correct. Correct. It's either small. Will the proposed action the character or quality of the existing? No. Will the proposed action have an impact on the environmental characteristics that cause the establishment of a critical environmental area?

No. Will the proposed action result in an adverse change in the existing level of traffic existing infrastructure for mass? No. Will the proposed action will cause an increase in the use of energy and it fails to incorporate reasonably available energy conservation or energy opportunities? No. Will those factor impact existing public private water supplies? No.

No. public, private, wastewater, treating utilities. No. Will propose action character or quality with important historic, archaeological, architectural or aesthetic resources? No. Will the proposed action result in an adverse change to natural resources such as wetlands, water, groundwater, aerosol, poor or? No. Will the proposed action result in increase in potential for erosion, flooding or drainage problems? No. No. Will the proposed action create a hazard to environmental resources or human health?

No. Based upon the answer to part two, the board will agree to a negative declaration. I'd like to make a motion once more hereby status for corporations owners of the Sax family drive as presented at the Uh, 2025 is determined the action to awarded action um and issued a negative declaration.

I second. All in favor? I

um I'd like to make a motion responsible planning board acting architectural site and review hereby grant architectural site for the project commonly known as drive. um as uh presented at the meeting of a second. All

in favor? Excellent. Thank you very much. Appreciate Architecture. Lawrence Cooper Street, Inc. All business architecture 25- 010 C2 design group representing trust bank tax2-2 common 37 are seeking to return on existing blue rates on the entire region. to pursuant to city hall zoning code chapter 220 17D this require architectural approved here represent

street we're not there yet

we got one before Rosel is on airplane city uh I just want to share with I do not believe that anyone is here for Trustco tonight. I just wanted to share that I reached out to the applicant after our prior meeting. They told me they would uh provide proposed dates for us to go do that site visit so that I could notice it to the public as we discussed. I never heard anything back after that email saying they would send proposed dates. also was brought to the building and codes department attention this week that these lights that they are here trying to get approved to turn on have already been turned on for the past week. I just wanted to make sure that everyone had that information available to them. Thank you.

It will be done this week. We I was the only person in the building at Coat's office this morning. So let them know that they were on and then we sent out an email so people could go by and see them. I just wasn't sure. It is our intention to issue violations first thing in the morning. Is the violation a general violation or is it like 30 days in uh I I can't speak to what violation the code enforcement officer will issue. I mean they seem it just seems like they

was last time so that we could have a workshop so that they turn on the lights and they adjust the power so that you can make an informed decision. What the code officer is telling you or the planning coordinator is telling you is that they never provided any dates. So we really can't act on this again. So you have to you deny it for the no show or you give them a courtesy and table one more time.

And I would just like to express that there was no further contact from the applicant and there is no penalty or a time delay for which they can come back and apply for architectural review if they're denied. So they can come back at the well not next meeting because they missed that deadline today but they could reappear in January. Yeah. We could show how as far as things like this. So, I think we should I think we should make a motion.

I'd like to make a motion. This is part I'd like to make a motion that lost access here for the project identified as CZ design commonly known as 37 street. Um there was no resignation at the meeting of November 5th that the applicant did not show up nor did they schedule time for a workshop as a grade at previous meeting. You guys are on.

Additionally, you may turn the lights on. Lights impression on without any motion to motion. All in favor of denying this application. Okay. No business now site USB 25-0033 L F Lawrence Cooper 8 owners of tax number 3037-13-95 street are seeking to construct a permanent replacements for events pursuing code from chapter 220-20 district site plan review and approval architecture BR25-12 street corners of tax map number 303.17-13-9 commonly owners 21 through 25 street are seeking to construct a permanent pavilion to replace the temporary campus tent used for events pursuant to the city of Glville zoning code Chapter 220-20. This would require architecture approved.

Good evening, gentlemen. For your record, Ethan Hall consult. Um, so Eric, wait, this is only this is I'm I'm going. That's where I'm Okay. When when this building was created, the old pavilion needed to go away. The pavilion is Eric is now the proud owner of what remains of that and it's all sitting over on the yard. Um it is his intent to repurpose everything that was done, everything that was that came from that building into several buildings around Morris and and current street. Um this is the first of them. We had to get several area variances. Um, this area variable was approved first. The other ones we came back from the zoning board with some additional questions. They have since approved all of the variances that we were looking for. We didn't have enough time to make plan submission. So, this is the existing um church factor. This is the the portion of it that's at the main building and currently Oh my god.

Currently there's an existing canvas tent. So this is this up here is Lawrence. This is Burton. This is current.

Correct. Those are the rock house. Uh there is the parking lot here and there is the currently there is a canvas aluminum frame cover and there is a temporary for food trucks for things that go on. The intention is to the intention is to build the building in basically the same spot with that. It's going to extend into the lock one. The various forback and for setback um obviously the light setback we have three fronts and rear on this property. So that was the necessity. Um the building will be an open structure. We're utilizing basically this is going to be a small portion of the old park. Uh all of the all the um all vertical posts have to be replaced. Uh we're putting new posts. All the trust work will be used and will be basically this is a size. So across 32 ft by your 40 36

Yeah, that's the question. So that's where we're at with this and and there are there are other buildings.

We will we do next I was in the zone the first zoning hearing. Let's open it up. Would anyone from the community like to comment? When this when this was first proposed uh to [snorts] the zoning board, they asked all the drywalls storm water such a big thing.

So that was that's on the um that's on the rockill uh house. Not not this problem. This this one they they weren't concerned. There was no concerns on this one storm water or anything like that. We we provided them with an updated site plan. It does show that little copy back here. Um if this point is an existing Yeah. I don't have this here. Yeah. For through this was this was no this is all really one thing. I know it's they're all individual questions.

It does not mean it pitches off to the north into the south

and and yes, we will be back to see you. Uh today was the deadline for turning those in. It's probably going to be the commission for Mr. Oh. Um, I guess one thing I didn't realize when you put this up, you become a real hometown hero and to me everybody asked me if you had a lot of dollars and things like that. This is going to be a great day down relatively fast. Yeah. Oh, recycle.

Yeah. So, we we use this as snow storage. So storage.

Yeah. Just sliding slid the snows. good. Did you mention more than one? Is there something else? This building is going to be three parts. I just happen to be four parts.

Yes. So, on on the Rock Hill House property, uh there is a cover stage. There's a stage that's there now. That's a temporary. There's a cover stage. Part of the building is being part of the old pavilion is being used for that. There's a cover pavilion over there is the same as this one that's canvas cover. Uh again, we're going to reuse some additional pieces. We're building another one that's identical to this one from the Rock Hill Bankhouse property. And then over behind Glenn Wall's Produce where all the trucks are stored now is uh a maintenance building uh for him to get all of his maintenance equipment inside the building uh and not be outside. And then there is a um bathroom toilet facility that's going to be on the road from the access.

Yeah. So there's there's an access way that goes from current lane and goes down to Leonard and connects to the bike trail. This is not part of the bike trail. It's part of the rail depot. And about right about where I'm showing the light right there is some parking spaces that are here on Lane. Right behind those we're proposing these toilet facilities permanent toilet facilities. So when they have they don't have to have the ports for those.

What are you What are you doing with the power? Is it a lot to power? [snorts] Uh well, nothing more right now. I went up a couple stairs back up, but all uh excited about that state. So, as I said, there's rules. I know. So, I'm just not going to do anything. It's uh you know, renovated, you know, restored the windows and doors. You know, it's the last part of probably 100 years here and it's literally uh I was told by the person who's a vice president of historical society that that is the last one in existence in the state of on DH. So that is like the last. So there used to be there used to be a one armed guy that used to sit there right there. [laughter] I've never heard this before in my life.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't It's not affecting anybody. It's It's making your life easier. You're recycling. Um it's a positive thing for our community. Um I don't there's no feedback from the community. I I have no issue. I think it's great. reuse.

I want to make a motion classified as a type two action as a construction or expansion of an accessory non-residential structural facility involving less than 4,000 ft. Therefore, no further action is required. [snorts]

Glad to see some things don't change. Thank you. I would like to make a motion that respons board architects site plan hereby grant architecture site to the property owners of the tax common to 25 street as presented in November 2021. Second all favor.

Thank you very much. Second review SCP25-0022 owner of tax number 309.16-14-1 commonly known as 11 fax sheet is seeking to continue the operation of unhosted short-term rental unit located in an RP district via the Sunset clause pursuant to the city of zoning code chapter 220-30 A1 E5 require second hands seeking approval for the sunset clause over Really? I thought you

I was going to I was going to try, but I actually stop any issues.

Yeah, we've been running it for few years now. We haven't had any problems. The only issue I can say we had was smoke alarm went off and fire neighborhood was unoccupied. Typically we rent probably if you have a it's hefty 6 months out of a year most otherwise it's vacant or we use it but we don't live in it it's you know we're not there but we're within a half an hour away so anything that happens we got really good neighbors around us they call me if there's a problem. So you have your contact. Yeah, we have all the names and my numbers.

Okay, one second. Would anyone from the community like your comment on this? Is this your Yes, it's my primary was my primary relationship. That's That's

a question. Yeah, we screen our our guests a lot. We don't let guests that stay with our new Airbnb users and stuff like that. We we we're not absentee uh hosts. We have also have a few other short-term rentals too. So we got good practice out there. With respect to seeker, I would classify this as a type two or no further action. Uh can I have a question? Is there like is it 3 years from today or is it

correct? So believe I I believe it's February. If you call me in the morning exactly I rent a year. So I don't want to fly to it where I have to start

um I'd like to make a motion first thing planning acting as the board of site plan hereby grant site plan project identified as William H owner of the tax room 11 street to be an unhosted short-term rental until the sunset clause expires. Um, and approval as presented at the meeting of November 10th.

Second. All in favor? I. Thank you. You're welcome. material Andrea tax number 30262.

Okay. Typically, I mean I can take 10 to three. Yeah. Okay. Great. Thank you. Appreciate it. I will see something. I can't wait to get in that.

So happy to see Mr. Are you Are you on right now? Yes. Sorry. I drive by that very frequently. It's great to see and you're moving from one street to what just

No, I hope so. I love it. Yes.

No, I think that's like that. I'm glad to see that being used. You know, I owners for coming into, you know, doing the right thing. We did a great job. It's a great building and I think a lot of people watch this happen to see someone going in with respect to Iassify this as a type two action. Therefore, no further action is required. Uh I want to make motion of the L plan board acting as a board of sight review here by grant site camp project identified as Hopkins at the location of 113 W street as presented at the meeting of November 5th 2025. All in favor? All right. Same thing for you. SP25-0024 pass number 309.28-1-12 28-1-12 commonly known as 45 shops and house receive the dog salon pet retail boutique pursuant to city of love zoning code chapter 220-9 C and three district site review

Hi thank you for having me I'm Alicia I'm the lei of the 45 south street our next door neighbors here looking Yep. next door looking to open up downtown dog spa boutique from building along great a lot perhaps uh unrelated a tangential if you representing will you uh pass on that stuff that's going in over here

outside this review? Yes. Oh yeah. I just I've always I kind of grew up exploded and everything was a drive and it seemed like things coming back to within a block of where you live, you know, grocery store. circulates full of people with dogs that need grooming and it's right. It just the just position to uh the development of that's supposed to be a cool part of the city and you sort of suffer from losing it through the 80s.

It's nice to talk to the new construction. Great idea.

I love it. That's a good idea retail store downtown as well as services. awareness campaign services to community partnership. So

yes, thank you. So as being a person of um you're not going to be able So it's just people bring them in about a few hours. I I for my own um I really don't have any again another barrier kind of thing to be here downtown. Um well

people really something that I don't know if I would have really thought that Okay. Uh let's see the tax map as presented.

Second. All in favor? I Good luck. Motion motion. Motion. I'll make a motion. I'll take you.