Planning Board - Regular Meeting

for meeting 2026. First of all, there is all business. 2600 reports additional continuences.201 That's 316 public. This is one second.

What's that? Okay. Review 26-013 review 26-47. Today beautiful installation.

you know what the things look like, but it's basically going to be whatever. This is that one kind of a freelance

pattern whatever at the moment, but it's going to be there was two different pages. There's that one and the beige one from the same thing. So those kind of free flowing, you know, lines there. Um the second one um a sketch of roughly what it's going to look like and then there's a uh you know a sample of prior work. So it's going to kind of be you know bright and colorful. And then the last one is going to be the uh caboose So the only thing on Yeah. So it's going to be next to the uh animal cracker mural.

So that's going to look like a the look like the uh red caboose. That looks pretty cool. Okay. Would anyone from the public like to comment on this application? Okay. Mr. Gaddy, you have some comments for me on this? No. I mean, it looks like we've already got some girls that just say Yeah, there's a lot in there. It keeps getting better. Mr. Morphus.

Okay. The sketch is going to be colored in though. Oh, yeah. No. So, that is why I gave you the uh the second order this page here. So it'll be more along that line. The sketch is just kind of like his concept of what uh you know the be Yes. Okay. So right that's right. But you said the colors aren't selected yet. It's not like it's mountain

but you know well there are artists I mean this is what you do for a living. So this so this one is kind of tan but then is it more going to be color? It's it's I like I told you it's going to be whatever whatever inspires him at the moment. So I, you know, I don't assume it's going to be, you know, it's going to be something.

Yeah. No, I I think that it's a great way you're continuing to clean up that property. Right. So I have no questions, no problems.

We always ask eventually possibly. I mean, we've got the um that storage building that was approved at an earlier meeting that we're going to be putting up kind of an interior of those containers. So, maybe after we get that done, get around the interior. Well, the first side you're not

the back mean the back side chasing the dumpsters. You know, so these are facing. So these are these are the street facing here. So the other the other sides the back sides are basically the doctor facing here. Maybe down the road sometime. Yeah. No, I mean I wouldn't say no, but they're not awful. They're just green. So any good on this? Okay. All set.

Yep. Um, I will make a motion that the Glenn's Hall Planning Board acting as the board of sign review hereby grant uh sign approval for the application SPR26-005 current Lane LLC order of 18-26 Lane tax map number 303.17-13-8 for the installation of three murals uh existing ing on the storage containers uh site listed as A and C on the map provided and that the murals will be maintained and the boxes are locked.

Second. All in favor? Thank you. Thank you,

Mr. Cliff. Next item on the genius sign board review SNB properties owner 45 Hudson Avenue tax map number 309.35-1-3-1 is seeking signboard review for the installation of a monument sign on an existing base and the installation of illuminated illuminated channel letters on aluminum backer mounted on the building. Uh Jamie Coloro with white assigning graphics uh here on behalf of Battle orthodontics. Um looking for a monument sign at the front on the Hudson AB side and then a set of channel letters on the parking lot side. Uh the monument sign is not illuminated. Uh it has conventional letters on it. Um and the channel letters are illuminated. illuminated.

One more time on that. The channel letters on the side of the building are illuminated, but the monument sign in front is not. Okay.

Would anyone from the community like to comment on this application?

Mr. Gag? Uh, no comment. Bill in terms of the fact that you're not meeting a pre-existing. Yeah, there was there was an existing sign on that topic. So there's a you're asking so basically our explan

we're asking for 4.5 square foot increase from the allowance size. Yeah. Uh I know we've been through this previously in terms of like hey working on what's the basis on which we're making decisions and grant relief from standards rights without clear criteria I besides my just general opinion on the aesthetics of it. Yeah, I think that's how it's been done for a long time. Um maybe for the future we make some change some regulations or clear something up with that.

I understand. Mr. orphice the lighted side is that turned off. It can be. Yeah, it can be put on. Yeah. And and my customer probably after business.

Sure. Yeah. I don't have any other questions. The colors that you deal with. Yep. Correct. White illuminated white on the building. Yeah. So the the teeth would be white. Uh oh. The whole thing. It's all white, right? Yep. That that's just showing the actual building letter. So it's all Yeah. Yeah.

Yes. There's also another sign. Oh, the is it like a wayfinding sign for the parking lot?

I wasn't made aware of that at all. Um, and honestly, is it still there now? Cuz I know they're doing construction there and it might not. Okay. Gotcha. Yeah. So, so they may have very well just No, I'm having absolutely I I have no issues with it. I think it looks great. Um Um Yeah, if there's one if there's another one there, then that's okay. Yep. Thank you. So, M would you like to

Sure. We I'm sorry. We just make sure we have that if there's a second one there. Yep. Thank you. Are we ready for the motion then? Yep. Yes.

No seeker. I would like to make a motion to make a blend planning board acting as the board of sign review approve SB26-006 SNB adon properties owner of 45 Hudson Avenue tax number 309.35-3-1 for approval of the installation of one monument sign on an existing base and a channel set illuminated signed mounted to the building um with the conditions that it's approval for one monument signed only and that any illumination to the channel set will be turned off by 10 p.m. based upon the presentation of Jamie.

Oh, there you go. Second. Second. All in favor? Hi. Hi. Thank you guys. The next item on the agenda, encroachment outside dining permit. Matt Barry, owner of MeanMax, located at 193 Glenn Street. Tax map number 302.20-30-18 represented by Tori Suite seeks consideration and recommendation to the common council regarding request for outside dining permit. Evening for sweet general manager be max.

Okay. So this is your plan for your seating? Yes, sir. Um are these going to stay? Oh, you got Oh, I like this because I as being a resident of the city who lives very near you, uh there's times in the summer getting through there isn't so easy because the chairs get moved all over the place.

Yes. So, that is uh part of the reason for the design. I think it's on the next page. We have a blueprint uh next page. Yeah, exactly. Yep. Um so, everything is fixed together. So, it's about a 6 foot x 6 footprint. Uh, so it makes them nearly impossible to move. Okay, Mr. Ladrick, I guess kind of a roundabout question. You've got this going right through the middle of the table. Yes, sir. And that's I think that should unique to downtown. Is there an advantage to doing it this way?

Uh, yes. So, we've done it a couple different ways in the past. Um and uh different governing bodies have uh had different issues with the ways that we've done it. Uh namely the uh state liquor authority used to not allow uh a divided uh alcohol serving section. Uh they've since amended that law postco. Um so what we have now is a a unobscured walkway um which was pressured by the ADA um and our former dining permits that were approved by the city of Buns Falls uh were not up to ADA spec um so that's why we modified it uh to the current layout. Uh the only thing I can, you know, question about I think it looks great. I think sidewalk dining is tremendous for downtown. Um can you perceive anything problem with cars that are blown up and cars opening that could hit the tables or hit it into your table?

Yeah, absolutely. Um so we've left a two-ft barrier in between the edge of the curb where the parking spot starts

and the edge of our table. Um, again, that's exactly 24 inches as laid out on the plan. This plan does leave a over 5 foot walkway through the middle. Um, so if needed, we could bump those closer to the front of the building to allow for more space in between our benches and the car doors. Um, and it's not noted on your drawing there, but um, I did go out and measure. The space between the curb and the start of the planter highlighted in green is 27 in. Um, so we're looking at about the same spacing there. I, you know, like I say, I as long as you feel comfortable that it's not going to, like I say, it's really the concept I think is kind of unique. Um, and like I said, that was my biggest grand. So,

um, no, I think it's a great idea over there by the tables. Yes, the dark blue spot is going to be parking. The two light blue spots are No worries. Okay. But that's enough space to even where they're pulling up the building. Absolutely. Yeah. So that little red circle is the white hole that is uh fixed to the sidewalk there. Um so we're actually uh completely on the other side over to the right of that white hole. I should You've had an enclosment before, right? Yes.

Is this a bigger enclosment or less than last year? I can't remember. It's actually slightly less um it's just the layout that changed. That's all she got questions that just you know obviously the city's got enforcement and so you want to make sure those fields don't like creep over clear. Absolutely.

I think from being there in years past I think this will should work out much better for you guys. I think I I applaud you for um making the changes and realizing what was going on there. You do have a very successful business and it did that sidewalk's kind of crazy getting through there. So, um I look at this as a good remedy for that for the city, for us, for you know, for everybody. Absolutely. You know, I I I really do think that uh you you've actually planned this really well. Um, it it should be a big improvement. I know. So,

are we set for motion?

Yeah. I would like to make a motion that the Glenn's Falls Planning Board hereby submits the following advisory to the Glenn Falls Council when they look in favor of the encroachment outside Matt owner located at 193 Glen Street 302.1-30-8 for approval of Five tables with 28 seats, three tables with eight chairs, and two benches to be located under the minimax overhang, and three tables with benches to be located on the red brick portion of the sidewalk in the city right of way. Uh, subject to all regulations and requirements.

All in favor? Can I just one? Yes. Is there a requirement to put those away in like September, October if they Yes. Indicate that there's no Yeah, there's a deadline of November that everything has to be open. That's a city. No. Okay. All in favor? I thank you. Thank you. The next item on the agenda. Just I'm going through the applicant. This goes on the county council agenda. Correct. Thank you. Aren't they out of business? That's still owner of business. Is it?

Yeah, it's just the beer isn't there. Correct. Yeah, it just changed. Right. Thanks, Mr. Landry. You only live like, you know, uh, right around the corner. Um, encroachment outside dining permit E26-002. Justin Prescott, owner of Fire Mission Smokehouse and Tap Room LLC, located at 126 Glen Street. Tax map number 309.28. 28-4-3 seeks consideration and recommendation to the common council regarding a request for an outside dining permit. Justin

and you are still in business? Yes. I was there doing food before. Did you you just got your liquor license? Outstanding. But actually today that is that is very quickly. All right. Can you do you want to tell us anything about this around the corner here? You're going to go up the side of the building along Park Street and then to

Yep. couple of tables in the front. We have plenty of room for setbacks. of 5T there. Everything looks good. How many seats total is this? 11 tables. Figure four seats. Okay. Tables. And you're going to put them. Do you take them in and out morning and night? No. see how it goes first.

Okay. Is there anyone from the public that would like to comment on this application? Okay. Uh Mr. Gaddy, no real question. I mean, same situation really wide rightly there. Um just curious in terms of like adding 44 additional seats to the restaurant is that any other interaction with other add another 44 patients. I mean from

not sure I know that right now we have 33 season 148 still one seat within that. So good question Mr. Morphos should

there was a notation on that was provided to us that plant engineering recommendation shift tables to the east of harry or renew the table immediately east of the fire hydrant. Yeah, I think this 78 just moved down. Okay. Well, we don't want to restrict those guys.

Oh, absolutely not. Um, is that it? That's it. Mr. Landry,

only question I where this isn't the scale. There's where the building is. Is this the footprint of the building? So, is the building this deep and the tables in Yeah, they can't come out. Yeah. Start 5T. So there's 780,

right? Yeah. Okay. And these take up 40 in. 70. You got about 38 ft and then you got chairs on each side of it. You got two feet and then you got you got chairs back up the chairs. I just I have no problem with a big sidewalk just you know it's going to work out for you or not. You're going to get to a point if you got too many of them and you can't I'm not small so I'm very conscious of backing up the rest. So I would assume that if it was too tight

yeah so if it was too tight you would just take one of the right natural you know that shape and everybody's asking this is the timeific because okay does does it anywhere here show from the there's the curve there's tables and chairs the distance between the back of the chair and the building so there's got to be at least five foot

okay so it's 5t off the curve this is No, like I say, to me, I think it's great idea, you know, just as long as it fits. Okay. Our this is a recommendation we make to the common council. Now, you just heard the last applicant why they went to what they did for their seating because with tree chairs and stuff like this, people move around. It's up to your responsibility to keep the sidewalk clear. Yeah.

Question. Y question. Are there going to be umbrellas over these tables? the light that tables that were given to us again.

As long as they're not like it said foot clearance, right? No, we're not taking the same footprint se long as it's again that's that free space that's got to stay you maintain that

system

correct and then and then one of the building inspectors will go and then it's up to the common council act if we get a few complaints and then they will act on it.

It shouldn't here because there's so much space in front of it. anything. Okay.

I like it. Uh, you know, the the restaurant scene, it's amazing where where we're at in down in Glenn Falls right now and where we're going. Um, and as you said, a lot of people will specifically go out for outside dining. Um, I don't have an issue with it as long, you know, again, like I said, just, you know, you have and it is an SLA thing for that enclosed area. So, as long as it's there, I I wish you all the luck in the world. Miss Murray, would you Is there any more comments?

I'd like to make a motion to fall planning board hereby submit um opinion of the council location Justin owner of Fight Mission Smokehouse and Tackling LLC located at 126 Glen Street. tax map number 309.28-4-3 uh for his encroachment permit for outside dining to have 44 seats um as presented at the meeting May 6. Second.

Can I Yes. that the tables not restrict the fire hydrant.

Oh, hold on. We have the fire department here.

We can do that. Okay. and that complies with the proence. Okay. And then I'll second. All in favor? Good luck. All right. Site plan review 26-018. Barbara Daly, owner of 112randle Street, tax map number 302.19.10-2. seek site plan review approval to operate a hosted short-term rental unit in a residential zoning district. And you are okay. Welcome.

Tell us about your project. I have just purchased um about seven months ago this brick house 17 street that was kind of an eyes and was complained about a lot because of the people that live there. It's a two family home back and me in the front. Um and so I would like to do an interview second floor. It won't be used that much, but because I also have kids in town, in case come visit me, I want to be able to continue to have my visitors come, but on some occasions, I'd like to have near this Airb. So, you haven't been doing this there before? No.

Okay. No, it's one bedroom, one bathroom area. So, I don't I intentionally only I have another bedroom up there, but I intentionally left it just one bedroom because I don't want to be pardoned. There were a lot of people coming. It's a quiet area to respect that. Okay. Our streets quiet. Is there anyone from the public that would like to comment on this application? Mr. Yeah. Okay. Mr. Morphus, how's your parking?

Yes, there's um it's a long drive. You go around the back of the house, there's room for at least two cars, but then there's a a twocar garage. Um I park in the garage the space or the tenant space for the guest and then you can say two guests for three guests or two guests. I mean there might be two adults. Yeah,

they may have children. I'm not really providing a lot of, you know, or extra beds or anything, but if somebody I I ordered it right now, they should reach out to me. And then you got fire. That's it.

Yes. 911 big windows that go out to the roads. Hold one for Chief Shramml isn't here this evening. So, any comments you want to if this is a new Airbnb, any comments you want to relay? I did these are the city. Um, yeah. So, anytime before they get up and running operational, they have to have an inspection by the codes department. Okay.

So, those are things that check the 911 call sheet is there, the exits are properly cleared the right width, um, windows are set, electrical is good. So those are all things that we check in that inspection. As soon as you sign off, all the safety measures are in place. Okay. Thank you, SH. Um, is this in your unit? It's so Yeah. Yes. It's It's upstairs. Um, yeah, that's all.

Is this a unit that basically there's no kitchen involved? So, it's just All right. The same thing as long as everything's in compiance, no, things like that question. I guess my only thought is um making sure that's clear. Yeah, they they should have all these do that in session. Correct. Okay. Cedar type two. Okay.

All right. Then I would like to make a motion that the Glenn Falls planning board acting as the board of sight plan review hereby grant the application of Barbara Dailyaly order of 112 Cranville Street tax map number 302.19.10. 10-2 for approval to operate a full posted shortterm rental unit in the residential zoning district subject to final approval by fire department in the code office. All in favor? Thank you.

Next item. Site plan review SP26-014 Aderondac Management Services of New York. Lesie of 35 and 7 Pines Island Drive. Tax map number 309.16-23-9 seeks site plan review approval to establish a new location for existing mechanical contracting business. Hi David services. What is your name again? I'm sorry. David Sterner.

Okay. We're looking to relocate to 75 357 but it's just location. Okay. Tell us about your project.

Okay. So, uh we're an existing mechanical contractor based out of Wilton Gford area. Um we are looking to upgrade and move to center prime. Um in addition to relocation, we're looking to start up a metal fabricification. So we're going to operate 50% of the building as the mechanical contractor and that'll be primarily used for equipment storage warehouse space and then the other half the building will be for metal fabrication. Um you know that's our local business is around here. We work at Finch and Prime where mechanical mil contract is. So um new home

are you um CNC machines welding? Um yeah, so it'll be for the metal fabrication, it'll be um it'll be CNC based uh machinery. So press grade shear metal. It'll be a lot of welding um uh plasma tables, stuff like that. So not a lot of the old school like when you went into a machine shop that was contamination and old oiled machines and all none of that stuff. Be brand new. Okay. All right. Uh, is there anyone from the public that would like to comment on this application? Okay, Mr. Landry,

I think it's great you guys are relocating. You're bringing in up to 50 jobs. Um, the only thing I had was it shows the parking for 26 and we could have up to 50 people set a room. I mean, it looked like there was a lot of them down there.

Yeah. So the um the 50 bowl is going to be we work out in the field our business. So um at any given point in time we don't expect more than 12 to 18 people at our current location while everybody would be out there. I guess the only other question I had was I'm sure this would involve like maybe the part is there going to be any storage or like any material? Um we we'll have some welding gases but that's um you know small canisters and there are requirements for storage that are aware of you know very easy to

I think it's great

yeah so our building currently 7,500 ft. This building is about 3,000. Um, so it gives us a lot of room for growth and extinction. Great. Oh, where are your hours of operation? Um, we'll be around 6:30 in the morning to 4:30 in the afternoon. There'll be some after hours working occasionally, but um, that's the primary business. Is there noise generated by the way? There's some noise, but it's all contained within the building. Um, there's not going to be any external work. So, um, it'll be hard to even hear it from the sidewalk.

The only thing you'd have outside is probably like metal deliveries or something like that, like backup alarms or something. Yep. Exactly. That's That's what I'm Yeah, Mr. G. Uh yeah, don't seem to know yourself. Uh terms the uh it doesn't seem like there's you already have the uh feel like I can't see it right now. No, no, because we're we're a businessto business industry. So the only being people that are working directly at our facility along with

okay um I think it's a great

um we don't have What's that?

Mr. Warf. Uh so someone who's already brought up um he's going to need suction once we get going. The list of chemicals where they're physically stored in there just ensuring that they are stored properly. Um and then just a notification of the monitor. I'm seeing you have a monitoring system there. Okay. You're just taking it over. Okay. So as soon as we get that information on file and pass this inspection, we should be good. So you guys will work for the building department if this is approved and

Yep. Yeah. If it's approved and they start to move all their stuff in, we'll get the chemicals on file department. Um, and the rest will be covered with required inspection to ensure that everything is compliant.

I'm wondering if they have any industrial waste water and whether or not able to review this. We do not have destroy. Okay. Um, that's why I was asking before about all the oil and lubricating machines and all, but that's a a bygone error. So, more or less. Um, so I think it's a great thing for the city to have the jobs here and I believe that building was vacant for a little while. So, um, it'll it'll be active again and have more people that in our working our city. Um,

Mr. Chor, landscaping or parking lot. My position is it's a type two rehabilitation of an existing building. Okay. Then I would like to make a motion that the Glenvall's planning board acting as the board of site plan review hereby grant approval for the project identified as SP26-14 Adam Management Services of New York incorporated Lesie of 357 times island bride tax map number 309.16-2.3-9 to establish a new location for existing mechanical contracting business as presented at the meeting today. Um, noting that there was no county impact, there's no industrial waste water and it will be subject to the fire department inspection for the specifically the list of chemicals that will be stored on site. The applicant has made a representation that the hours will generally be 6 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. with some time.

All in favor? Good luck.

Site plan review SP26-015. Architecture Review 26-00002 applicant has requested a continuence pending ZBA action. Kelly Feldman, Adam Feldman, owners of 146 Maple Street. Tax map number 303.17-11-27. seek site plan review and architecture review approval for conversion of a two-unit structure to a four-unit structure with the addition of a rear deck and staircase to provide access to the upper floors. That's a anyone here representing that table. Okay.

What's that? He didn't notice it. I didn't get it in my public comment. Did anyone like to comment from the public like to comment on this application? No. Make a motion we table this application.

Okay. So, did you make a motion to table? I second. All in favor? Okay. Architectural review 26-003 applicant has requested continuence. Romeo Toyota Guns Falls 163 Broad Street tax map number 309.7-12-20 represented by SRRA engineers seeks architecture review approval of the expansion of existing commercial use. Anyone here like to comment on this application? Yep. I'll make a motion we table this application.

Yeah, it was I Yeah. Make a motion to the table. Second. All in favor?

All right. Site plan review 26-016. Architectural review 26-004 Carol's LLC of one Warren Street. Tax map number 310.5-2-6. Seek site claim review and architecture review. approval for a proposed renovation to the interior and exterior of the site, including restriping the existing parking lot, site improvements, and landscaping. Good evening everybody. My name is Jean Conco. I name engineering consult on behalf of the African working site plan review of Skyline Technologies who will be here to represent the architect for this application. So as mentioned we have the existing Burger King restaurant located at one large street. Uh currently it has a single lane drive-thru and other associated site improvements including parking landscaping single lane drive-thru uh access to the siteful movement driveways on off Len Street and one driveway through the adjacent uh office use uh connected to Warren Street. Um, as part of the proposed application, we are looking to upgrade the equipment within the single lane drive-thru to bring it up to current branding standards, restripe the existing parking lot, um, as well as proposed landscaping improvements throughout site. Um, you know, the sophomore hard lines and the overall things include the aesthetics um, along

with the building remodel that Chris will be discussing. That's correct. Yes.

So, currently the parking is compliant with the city's ordinance. Under existing conditions, there are 52 parking spaces and as a result of the proposed improvements, there will be 50 parking spaces again with the city's requirements. Uh some of the additional improvements around site are related to general site maintenance as well as bringing site up to the ADA code including system accessible parking stalls and accessible You know,

what's the plan for the existing park area here with all these benches, the concrete and all that. Are we going to So, there's the concrete patio that if you're looking at the storefront from Glen Street, it's down there. Um, that is to be removed as part of outdoor seating area associated concrete. What's that done? They're being removed. Okay. So, that whole sitting area there, what you're going to take that out? That is correct. Yes.

Yes. So today we're looking at the storefront. There's a short stair down scenario. So there should also be the site prepared by engineering as well. I have exhibits. So when you play,

you get please use the microphone so we can the square. So the top left

that was underutilized had been maintained for years. Correct. And there was not an accessible room.

You're not taking the existing treatments. So, and you said that's going to be grass now. Yes, that's correct. Mr. Landry, well, the one question I had, you answer I nothing was going to happen with that bunker. If that's that's what my fingers called it, the bunker.

Um the uh if that's coming out, that's great. Yeah, it's called out on the site the site plans as well.

Are there going to be any changes to either the exterior lighting or the sign the existing area lights within the park throughout the parking area? Then the sign will be the same. There will be new signage submen or a separate application. Please stand along will not change his mind.

Yep. Did you see the exhibits or did I make No, I do have some. Yeah. Yes. It's just a colorized version of colorized version.

I question. What about lighting in this area where all the grass and everything is. I mean um I don't where you pointing to I don't where all the the concrete areas behind where the the torch was for the city on that corner. It's

Yes, that's a big going to be a big thing for the city here with the with everything that's going on downtown now. um you know, taking that taking that out, which I'm not opposed to or anything like that. It's your property, but I want to make sure that, you know, we're we're we're making an improvement here and ju it's just going to be grass now and it it have it lit at night somewhat so that people aren't camping out in there. I just want to make sure we're talking about the same. Yeah. Right in front of your store. Yeah, right here. This this area right here.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think there's there's two separate spots. There's like there's four little tables that are right next to the building. That funny sort of like Yeah. Yeah. Concrete area. Yeah. It like feels like a public space, but it's Yeah, that's what we're talking. Taking all that concrete out and putting grass in there. But that concrete stay. Oh, the patio. Yeah. Thank you. Yes. Thank you. Yeah.

I think they're just talking about be nice if they got rid of all because it's a Okay, so here we are.

Interesting. That's not right. So the concrete area that is being removed as part of the proposed improvements this area here getting excited. Okay. So the other concrete area closer to the intersection of street and street that's um

yes okay that was the one to remain that's going to remain but there's no seats there no seating that we are keeping us no it's just like Yeah. Okay. That's something we can I think what they're getting at is there's a lot of problems. Yeah. There's a lot of problems. I think that's what they need to say. Yeah. Doing something with that. We'll work with city professionals to come to a council.

Yeah. Work with the city and that would be a big thing like you guys investing in the store. We have a lot going on positive in in our downtown area. That would be a huge thing. My guess is it was there because it connected to the other patio that's now being taken out. Right. Right. Connecting to that patio. Maybe you'd like to make it all. Yeah, that's something we can work with the city. I think that would be a great thing. You know, we we're all working together for a common goal here. If you're going to renovate that sp that that space, you know, totally understand. I just wanted to make sure we were all talking

all on the same page. Yes. Yeah. Okay. All right. So, is there anyone from the public that would like to comment on this application? Okay. All right. Let's get that out of the way. Um, Mr. Morphus, we're going to be covers. So, question regarding the landscape. Will there be any dark? That's what we're talking about. Making sure that it's lit and

yeah, so the existing site lighting is remaining and then we have the existing trees within the parking lot that are to remain and then additionally we are including several shrubs, evergreen shrubs and various grasses. uh which are included on this colorized rendering as well as outlined on the landscape plans. That part looks great. That really does. I'm just from where we are, I'm more concerned with that that front and I think the the rest of the work. Mr. Gaddy.

Yeah, similar thing just the wacky parcel in terms of that quite public space and then the ad the joint properties own by someone else that seems to be part of it from user perspective. So I mean any improvements to that quaz space would be great. Also just curious about you guys maintain that because it's connected sidewalk is that recess area like shovel snow. I don't think they do anything there. Yeah. Yeah. Hope so. No speak up.

I mean you know about like you know community by the time having those recess spaces there. Is that ever I guess not like from a public safety perspective I don't know if that's ever been an issue for you know police or any sort of activity but obscure component. Oh it's been an issue. Yeah. So if there's any way, you know, consider addressing that essentially part of our downway spots right there. Yeah. And once again, we're trying to bunker. Yeah.

I hate that exist. I I really don't want to refer to that because it's just a to me it's a bad name, but it doesn't have a great connotation for the center of our city to be referred to as a bunker. Um the recessed area, let's refer to it as that. Um but yeah, I mean I think we want to solve problems for the city and you guys want to solve problems for yourself as far as having people there. So we need to address that you know uh in some form. Yeah we can work with the applicant the city to find it solution. Okay sounds great.

Any more comments on this? You know my thing is going back to recess. I think when you do that if you had a great plan you're clean up murder gang park look great it would be my personal opinion I think it's going to be a lot of people that if you don't if you don't do anything with that kind of improvement it's going to be one of those deals that came back from doing that I don't think you're talking about a lot of money or anything but just you know it would improve the entire price you know because most people do know that that's part of it could be something really special. Yeah. Yeah. That's what we're looking for.

We can make that part of our Yeah. I don't think it would get approved. down there.

Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. So, let's hear the Go ahead. That's something that you know we can look to remove that concrete open air by additional landscaping and beautify it. something. Yes.

This little parcel was identified as Google. So this is an opportunity for them to for the city to work with you on this. Yeah. Okay. recommending wouldn't necessarily just be simply a loophole. No, no, no, no. We Yeah. So, I think we Allison, you could correlate that and we could come up with you guys can work together. Maybe there's government funding where we could really make this something special for everybody, you know. Okay.

Yes. Yeah. I So I think we would like to see something like that before we make a recommendation. you know. Yeah. Work with Alison. Yeah,

very sort of design

question. be a significant

understand from that organization he was there

is kind of what we want to see as an ingredient there. Um yeah, let's go on to the architectural review part and we can see that and then maybe we can go back to this and

Okay. folks. Um interior remodel fixed the light has been your current fix on the um previous and sign. What's that? One sign in front here. exterior. That one

exterior. Sorry.

Yeah. Oh, yes. You you got to use there's people listening home. I'm sorry. Sorry. And sign basically shape this shape will be considered sign also peritted by a separate vendor.

No neon. No no Is it? Yes. Yes, it is.

And the chancellor 1 a.m. based on a 24hour days

it's a lot it's a lot less there now on the new drawing. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. You're go ahead. So the colors are even things but it's going to be closed. I think that's from

Do you have Thanks. I don't know if they're all the same. I think they are.

What's the the brick colored one? Is

it? No. Do you like this? I didn't like

real brick here wouldn't be but I think it's okay.

It's a pretty modern building in the middle old city. Yeah. We're going to Okay. And first first thought process here. It's a really modern building in our our old city. It's all flat. It's just a box. Mhm.

You know, it's more of a out a sprawl building, you know, like somewhere in a new developing area. You're right at the center of our of our city. Um, it's it's a it's a nice looking building and you guys do these all over the country, but it's just you're in the middle of our 150 year old city, you know, that's that's just, you know, I want comments from the rest of the board, but Mr. Gaddy,

certainly in group it's in a GC district, so you know, it certainly know, you know, Yeah, I mean we're down. Yeah, DC1 district mention of what's there, but we have a chance here. Stewart's we worked with them and we got a great product with them. Yeah, you know, so that was tear down to rebuild, right? But there's still opportunity that facade is, you know, Mr. Morphus or is that Mr. G? Yeah. I mean, I mean really the primary is like, you know, having looked at the existing district right now. That's certainly Oh, no. It's a big difference.

Yeah. And just it's really just that space that really go

but that's a brick building. We have one shot at this.

No, but funny.

Well, no. Well, I just, you know, there's the architects have a way of doing these things and, you know, that's what they get paid to do. Is this part of is this part of a required HIP? Yes. Across the nation, they don't want to say they're restricted to these um for now. This is why these photos actually brick wall.

Oh, 100%. Oh, yeah. I'm not doing connections. Yes. To your point though. No, I saw that bringing the just in the car.

You got almost like very little brick floor, you know. If it was more this would look more like brick building. No, I don't necessarily look like a brick building. Not that, but just, you know, it's just a brand new building, you know, in in the heart of And I guess it's just me, but when you stand there and you look around there, you know, besides

I mean you go to other states and they they make a McDonald's look like a house. You know our our next door neighbor right here in Vermont. You're not building that. You know it doesn't they can add you're an architect

but this is an introduction here

you know something Again store were not match historic but we began I didn't want to suggest going down. Change something. I would say I mean the proposed design is changing right now. shape.

No, it's not going to match every other downtown building, but we asked we've asked other people that have come here before us before and introduce the project to look at the architecture around them and see what they could do to their project to make it blend in a little better. Yeah. just I mean I'm just right we're getting introduced to this right now and this is a constructive part of what we this is what we do. So

the wall has behind you. You know a good example is like well street that

the last sending the same structure that you know you know I saw the picture and the after picture I'm looking at the before picture right now which is fairly

yeah you know I don't know that there's certain things done. We're trying to imagine the thing with Steuart said, please look around and see what's around you.

Yeah, they incorporated the corals and and other aspects of that and a little bit different roof line to their normal project and it wasn't a a monster burden. And when you look at that, you know, you look at, you know, the museum next door to that, it brought some of those little architectural aspects into it. And I know this is a Burger King, but it's just the location that it's in. And and it looks it's a big improvement over what's there, you know. Um I I like I said, if it was, you know, up in Queensberry somewhere, whatever. It's just right in the heart of our city. So, Mr. Morphe I believe this is quite a

Yeah.

But also maybe premature you know started this end project revitalization. Would it be would it be a burden to Burton if they waited 6 months or so until the city planning um came up with suggestions and work with you? Could you know you probably probably 15 or 20 years old now had to postpone the project for six months until there was some discussions. Would that be a big that's my suggestion is that it may wait and have these discussion now working as far as designers. Yeah.

But as far as but Burger King has a national program going right now where they're going through everything rebranding and redoing their stores and the whole thing. Um, I think I think to see you guys take a look at the neighborhood and take a look at some ideas

just a little something. And then the other thing is maybe and again I understand the timeline you guys are on and that you know you're this isn't the only one going there's tons of them and all kinds of projects but reaching out and I don't know the timeline for this money for that sitting area but if we could correlate something there you know to work with that you know um which is two kind of two different entities we could get the store done and have that and then work on the the grounds in that front part at you know down the road a little bit. You know what I'm saying? Like you guys want to get the store done, get it modernized and get that looking good. But this other part is such a big thing for the city and for you guys because you own it that maybe we could the city and the state or whoever it is can come up with something to help with that project portion of the project.

Okay. Yeah, you you don't represent the guess what we're trying to that's a pretty important piece of property and I'm holding up but that's and it's always been kind of controversial piece of property and why it's there and like I say I guess we moved back Olympic torch in 198 right in the be a good again public relations things for the

yeah to improve that whole front of that thing and I don't like I said I don't want to hold up we have some ideas now to go forward with just to see if you can come up with something better there far how far radius oh just stand there just yeah just stand there and Look around. That's That's it. Just Okay. Yeah. The last 10 years of investment in the city downtown was $10 million state investment now 50 million

60 private investment with private investment. Yeah. stalls and it's like the city's come so far and this is the heart like this is like the last and this is great that you guys are here right now serious because that is right at the heart of the city and I really think that Allison with what she's doing in her role and can and Ethan being with the county we can put something together where we could really do something there you know I don't think we want to jump Right. Do we'll do the store, you know, work with you on that 100%.

I'm saying this for our board that you know, but for that that front part, I think we really need to get some good planning on that. Okay. So, appreciate. I think one thing too when you want to look around, you think about the rocks. Yeah. We're just trying to, you know, again, just some kind of corners that could be put along the path that maybe something look at Stewart's and then look at what another Stewart somewhere else looks like and what you know they just added a couple of little things but it changed it brought in architectural features from the neighborhood.

Okay. And so are you looking to take the applicant to come back with new drawings relative to architectural review and planting up front? You're not going to act on anything. Yeah. Yeah. But I can you communicate with them on whatever you can do and they'll be in contact like this is no building. They just added some little I don't know what people are called or something

right. Yes, there and there is just talking with the attorney for the planning board and we don't want to hold like I said and and I'm I believe speaking for all of us here on the board that we don't want to hold this project up but we could do a modified site plan approval where we do the store and the rest of the parking lot and the whole thing and have that aspect of it done and then work on that front part, you know, on that and that where that concrete area is. Okay.

Yeah. All right. So, it's almost like two separate things where am I you guys do are we wrong here? Am I wrong with in saying that that we could we could do this? To bring some a modified site plan to us now that it leaves room for in the future for the December people to work with them. a longer time, right? But but what they propose right now is sounds like the board is not feeling that that's sufficient to approve a study plan. No, it's not. Yeah.

With the that recess area and then also the changes to the architecture that they see. So I would say yes. come back to us revised plans for for all of the things like a drug insight. We got to find that it's applicable just instead of a straight this is more of an architectural field because it's kind of corn shoved in the top that building is like in three different sections. So maybe even you know the two winds being high and the valve being lower. But what's happening? What I'm trying to say to you that building right there that's going up right now used to be an old derelict right aid. Yeah.

And it's a block from you guys. Huh? Yeah. That's that's happening right now and that's what's happening in this city all around us. So we're just trying to I just think we could do something really good there. And I don't want to jump into it. As far as variation in height and interest look at every building, everything has something. Yeah. You know, if it's or it's filling, whether it's different, whe you're an architect. You'll you'll you'll you'll make us you'll do us right. Okay. All right. So would you

and that we're going to come back with, you know, revised drawings for the site plan in the building. I'd like to make a motion planning board to table the site plan and architectural review of the candidate Carol LLC 10 Street number 310.5-2-6 and return to the planning board with revised plans excitement and potential based upon what was discussed at the meeting of May 6, 2026. I second it. All in favor? I thank you. Thank you.

No, I listen Stewart's their architects did a great job like they worked with us and you guys will have come up with something. We don't want to put a huge burden and you'll know what you can work with and what you can do and And it looks like a big crown or something. Well, I think the the colors weren't bad.

Not the problem. It's just a box. You can hide the box though.

The neons are gone.

Yeah. You good? Thank you guys. I think this we're going to do something really good. All right. Architecture Review 26-00001 Trusco Bank owner of 37 Bay Street Tax Map number 302.20-24-14 seeks architectural review approved revised lighting plan originally reviewed by the board in January 2026. Good evening.

Good evening everybody. For the record, John Lamper with Jordan Conway, attorney from my office, Michelle Simmons from Trustco, and John Ramsey from the company that provides the lighting. So, to begin with, um, as everybody knows, Trust was leasing in the old post 100 Glenn Street for a long time across from the Burger King. The opportunity came to be able to purchase the building, make a more of a commitment to the city at 37 day. you did a pretty substantial renovation to modernize that building. At the same time, the building itself is kind of plain architecturally. So, um I was here in January and we proposed to put the lighting at the top of the roof line to make it a little more visually interesting. The board wasn't excited about that in terms of compatibility. We talked about um the Hopkins building next and the um architectural uplighting on that building and comments from the board. that that was acceptable. Um whereas what we were proposing we felt wasn't compatible. So um you know taking into account those comments we revised the proposal and you know I think that what we've proposed is fairly subtle and matches what's next door. Um so it's just um the edge of the building that's blue by the front by the front that um none of it was not on the back side of that. and doesn't face the residential area. Um that's that's north of this on on Bay Street. Um and then on the south side of the building that faces Peter's building, the same thing. It's just architectural lights washing the side just to make it again more interesting to match the trust colors. There are already down lights on this part of the building that were approved um that you can see from this picture that shows

rev building next door. So, you know, this is um certainly an attempt to listen to the direction of of the board and come up with something that is a visual enhancement um you know, that's fairly subtle. Let me would anybody from the public like to comment on this application? Okay, that's so I I always forget to do that. Okay. and we were here for a while with the last one. So I remember um Mr. again.

Um I mean my I mean my you know concept trying to look at some of the old meetings notes on it. It was um you know it's interesting prospects. I mean I think it's it's challenging to compare um I guess not app like the you know the architectural uplighting the trust building versus you know the yeah broad building. I mean I drove around and looked at like um joint that one. I think it's just hard to compare because the umual nature that I mean that was my primary impression of it. Um but you know obviously I think the previous conversation impact on the surrounding property you know if you address that

Mr. Morphus I think it's quite an improvement would see you know I know you're the architecture of the building and within those limits I think you've come to I have no objection to the new I

my thing is like the front on that column architecturally lighting that up. I think it looks great. I think it's that is like an architectural feature. It's the same thing with the the Rogers building. It does that. the other lights on the side like if there was the fipon columns there or something so that it was actually lighting up an architectural feature or if there was a a a fipon column on the corner of the building or something that it lit up instead of just washing the building. Um I it's I it just it looks like legs thrown on there, you know, because they don't

So my my response to that already is that if we look at what's there now, you know. Oh yes, it's an improvement. Oh, 100%. It is a big improvement. Those were already improved. Oh yeah. Yes, definitely. But that's just my thing is that the one the front part of it looks so good because it's lighting up an architectural feature. M I agree. Excuse me.

Uh, Mr. Landry,

I agree. I agree with that, too. Yeah, like I said, I didn't like the the first proposal. It didn't fit, but I think this is a nice compromise. I I agree the fact that you're highlighting, you're not so much highlighting an architectural feature, but by the same where you're a bank, you're a commercial building, you're trying to draw attention to the building. I think this is a nice compromise between, you know, blazing sunsets and just a lot more. It does kind of tie in the fact you aren't highlighting anything, but it's kind of a subtle makes it to look over and see what those lights are like. So again, as long as they're wall wash lights, they're very definitive narrow beam. They don't it doesn't look like they have any spillage to it. So, and this is to a parking lot. So, like I say, I that that's fine. I find that I agree the fact that your your accent probably put it above your

Nina city architect. That's what does it look great? Oh, I think that looks outstanding. I think you know that reason why that's your body signal. Hey, this is where you're coming. What if you like just

in some ways because these are separated. It looks similar to the building next door, the writers building your building differently. So that Not over three columns.

We got the lighting expert coming up. So it's not on the window. So it's between. So what will happen if you try to incorporate those all on that one narrow wall is that it just wash together. Yeah. Everybody's got different vision some depending on the distance that you're viewing from. It's going to look more dominant more large scale I think uh lose the intent of being individual. you you would have one large blue area just

well the way that wall is laid out you can't have them evenly spay even if you went to the back corner you'd still have a spot where you couldn't do it like perfectly there is light fixtures on that wall they are y okay we're trying to light up the area we're back to a 24hour drive of 18 and because of that and there's no signage on that side because we've maximized the signage square footage. We're trying to call attention to it and do it in a tasteful way to draw attention. I mean, that 24-hour ATM availability, you want people to use it. So, you these would be on 24.

So, that those would not be on 247. Those would be on a timer where they would go on at night. We have daylight savings, so they would be just in place where they would go on at night and they look better when they're just past dusk. If you put them on too early, oh no, I can you're not seeing it. And then quite honestly any transactions that happen it just drops when you look at the ATM transactions and then you don't pick up until six. So the windows

that that is not that would be a problem. I personally I I think that it will it will look more consistent amongst the three because if you look at the neighboring uh building well you think they're not going to be in there inside there when that's on. It just looks weird being over the window.

You're the architect. We can do that. Okay. The three corners of the building like you highlighted this corner, you would highlight this corner and violate the Well, it is because that Yeah, it is. That's right. What what the city's trying to do is have these vertical. It makes sense. It's I understand. We're creating the illusion of a building. Yeah. that we we're trying to incorporate that with the feedback we got from I think it's a great compromise

you guys have anybody have any issues and so what you're going to what they would go off at

so them going off at midnight uh because when we look at the ATM transactions hardly anybody is usually maintenance so to have it built off during that train frame. We're serving no purpose paying for electricity to bring in no business. What about and the one on the front? Leave it. I mean, I could see that going. The bars the bars don't close until whenever. Just advertising wise. I mean, we would love to keep that one on the

They're not going to really light up the neighborhood or anything like that. The parking garage, right? Yeah. Yeah. Well, the building on the corner, I forget what it's called. Um they, you know, I they hate doing these things with stipulations on them. I really like how that looks. Um do does it go around the other side or is it just the front? It doesn't. Okay. Then I sign,

right? I don't really have an issue with that one. Does anyone have an issue with that staying on? Go ahead. angle so they're not Yeah.

Well, those people that live there have the have the lights on the front of their building. Oh, you're see you're not going to be able to see the call. And so what we do is that so

yeah these are the residents and they're lighting up everybody else. It's their building but they're and there's hardly any windows on that side. There's like no windows on that side if I remember. Yeah. Huh? Street lights right there are giving off more than Yeah. I think the one's like half out right now. Um Yeah.

Um I would like to make a motion that the Glenn Falls planning board acting as the board of architectural review certified grant architectural review 26-0 bank 137 B Street Tax M 302.20-2414 for the revised lighting LED line accenting or uplighting fixtures to be located on the front and the side of the building. The front of the building will stay on the 24 hours. The three lights on the side will be turned. The three lights on the side should be equally on that side of the building and that all the accent light be.

All in favor? Thanks everybody. Thank you. Where we going? I got one more thing. Right. This table.

Oh, yeah. Mr. Unoff twice tonight. You must like us. Site plan review 26-017. Lawrence and Cooper, Inc., owner of 153 Maple Street. Tax map number 303.17-13-9 seek site plan review approval for the construction of a 480 ft deck replacing an existing exterior stairwell providing access to the building's second story. All right. So this is the inside courtyard of the shirt factory. There's an existing gravel area on that inside corner and there's an existing set of stairs platform there. And uh what we're proposing to do kind of um put a uh put a deck that extends you know that's me by 30 and uh try and activate that corner is always kind of a dead spot for us when we have activities out there. So, you know, we would have a little bit of seating up there and uh the tea shop would, you know, potentially use that seating. Not very adventuring.

There is there is an existing door there already. Yeah. Um there's one of the There has the existing elevation of the existing uh door in there that that third uh spot over where the stairs end. That is a door. Oh, okay. Oh, so that's the rest there.

Oh, underneath. Yeah. So it may be storage. I mean you know uh you know the discussion I had with is that uh um we would maybe dig that dig that down enough that we could use that as as a vendor spot. You know, my wife who runs a tea shop there was talking about, you know, potential music that need for the tea shop, an outdoor stock. Yeah, I would say not not above because you know we're out of there when the market ends. We're out of there. You know the way those times the only the only two words get the market is the last student in September. Other than that it's actually day one my perspective just building

yeah's going to grow up the same should be Aaron you have anything no it's outside just

Yeah, that's all. Yeah. Yeah. As long as it's it has to go through building and code. So, Mr. Morphus. So, the deck big enough so you could have entertainment there if you want to

set up over stage M I think it's 6 feet and a half inch off. Um, yeah, I think that's where it has to be because I think that matches with the floor level first floor, right? So, I don't think there's any choice on that. All right. And that's a door to not

question. This is If it's elevated, what's what is it being built on a top opening or underneath? So, a 6 foot. Yeah. Part of the building.

Oh, you going to build a stair? Okay. And then as far as there's no concern as far as again lighting as far as to have it on a stairway that might or is there a lighting maybe on the building or something that might Yeah. So, yeah, maybe we might have to put a light something small above the stairs. Yeah. Something small because it's we're not we're not we're not going to be operating there after but still someone just walks up those stairs saying you got to be concerned about the people that operate. Yeah. Well, that's that's part of the reason the closing

I have no question.

You're adding a lot. You keep upgrading that that that area. Um I I think it's another good positive thing for there. Um, I don't have any issues, but we need to uh Is there anyone from the public that would like to comment on this? Ma'am, you're like, you are the public right now. No. Um, I'd have to do that, but um I I have no concerns on it. It's got to go through building and codes, and so Ethan's going to draw up, right? So um

no issues make a motion here for each of street number 3037-13 uh for construction of a 480 foot deck to raise an existing exper.

All in favor? I thank you. Thank you. Excuse me. Thanks. Um Go ahead. We're good. Yeah. I want to go over and what's that? Yeah. What's that? This is the next thing on the agenda. Then we'll do this. That's what it's asking.

Okay. Advisory opinion on proposed zoning text amendment. The city of Glance Falls requests an advisory opinion from the planning board on the proposed zoning text amendment to add the definition of dwelling semi- detached single family dwelling semidetach single family to the city zoning code to allow this use in the R1B single family moderate density residential districts and R1C single family highdensity residential districts. Okay. They want us to make an advisory on that. Mr. Gaddy, your email today. Yeah. Yeah. It was outstanding.

Uh like I said, you know, I guess we're making advising diversity of housing types of city. But you know this looks like it's sort of in reaction to a develop proposal that we had a few months ago which itself seems like a great project but if that essentially adding new use about 35% of the city to achieve a goal for one site is not necroach it look in my outline districts for the RC R1 R1C districts very clearly states that single family residential back so we are calling this certain thing but essence the duplex that we're having for single family resist so I would be far more comfortable overall policy perspective introducing this as either a development district particular project that would you know that provides flexibility for certain project or we do want to introduce this new zoning district I think this should not be done city definition altering I think it should be a more transparent policy because it is 35 city

do you that's why I said your email what you wrote and how you just what was spot on and um I don't feel comfort like we have a great city and just we don't need a bunch of ADUs and you know these things happening in our great neighborhoods you know. Yeah. Honestly too you know um allowing duplexes in single family resists is not um is not necessarily a bad right

and you know a lot of the modern literature in you know housing reform and development it shows that in a lot of our existing res district. We do have existing two family ress except they blend in neighborh whereas the use in the way that we're approaching this is you're taking two single heavy lots. So you're still using all that space is mushing the two units together. So you're not really gaining density that and it's also know it's an odd configuration. You can you could get the same or better density duplexes allowed in the United States in a better clarify that they are single family resitional density. They would be a single family residence next to another single family residence each on a separate lot. That's why it's that definition the way it is as a semi detached single family res on another. they just happen to be on the plan. They would still have to come to the planning to the zoning board to get um

but it's really

the definition you haven't defined. You're saying at semi you're saying at semi detached single family dwelling but there's you haven't defined what semi detached single family dwelling nor is it in the code right now there is a So you're saying sorry to that point though right so the dimensional density so let's just say there two existing single side by side my understand

you're just building the houses together on the line you can't go through so you're not So you're not really making very efficient use of that space and you're also producing how well to your point to change the density when that is a significant res. Yeah. What is changing by adding additional housing on a single family lot? You are changing the density. No. No. Because it's still one house on one lot, one house on another lot. They're just why I don't understand what they don't want the duplex will be on the property line. That's what

why don't we just combine the two lots because the duplex is going then they can get a married

it's owned by the same person right now wants to build duplex on the lot line. No, she's saying two separate lots. Yeah, I'm confused.

Yeah, it's over by the little leafy field. Yes. Right. That they wanted to do um they wanted to do this like town, but that's not allowed with districts. So, it'll What they were proposing was pretty I don't I'm not

Yeah, I don't No, 35% of what 35% of the city this would apply to it.

You still have all that space. And so let me just neighborhoods were historically laid out to develop that. But I think this is This was origin.

It's not right for there. It's all single family houses that it would be thrown into. Well, I think honestly what they will do is they'll just build,

right? Yeah. I mean could be I mean the recommendation better like recognable proposal that's able to use different Yeah. So I think so like in any case you're going to be changing changing right so that chang

and that's not Right. So you say a smaller approach could be say a modified language to allow that in whatever district this was discussing. So that then development where it's appropriate. Well except we do we have to do this tonight. Can we do some more? I think the board for the most of us need to do a little more research on this to make you know that we're not going to change city code tonight. You you have so if you don't

just from city code you don't act on it then you're saying you agree to it within 30 days of it being a so if you don't act on it I mean this may not understand what you're saying but I think no then they can come back but our plan development is residential and home don't Never mind commercial and residential.

Well, I think the nature, you know, the language, it allows, you know, it's kind of a it's a funny thing, but it does allow a higher stretching. Yeah. I don't want us to come off as being exactly Yeah, you wouldn't basically wouldn't be entertained, you know, a would have to come, you know, case by case basis probably originated by council.

I don't want us to come off as being not, you know, there's a housing issue and, you know, that we're against, you know, being somebody comes up with a new great idea. Yeah, fine. But I I'm not in favor of this, you know. I say just a negative. All right. I'm not negative. Okay.

All right. Make a motion that the Glenn Hall's Planning Board hereby submits the following advisory opinion to the Glenn Falls common council that we look with dis favor on the proposed zoning text amendment regarding well semi detached single family to the city zoning code in R1B and R1C. Is that all I need to say? We do not with disp in favor. Ethan, I'd like to talk to you with that about that more. You know, thank you.

You sound like you have a really good understanding and professional planner. I know. No, serious that that I'm telling you, you know, you're a professional planner. I'm not. You know, I'm on the planning floor, but yeah. So, another thing we have this evening, our developer here in the city, Mr. Patton, you want to do you over? Well, this Well, if you want it on me, we got What's that? Well, you should. The meeting is still open. Yeah. What's up?

You can't go off TV. We're going to keep discuss it, right? I we got to talk about this. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Go ahead. Um what's that?

Because he right he and this isn't proper channels. He reached out to me and said, you know, I've been here working at the building. You know, he's got all this stuff going on, these projects, and they were doing some work downstairs and I would really like to change the color of this and So I hand I had this printed up by architect. This is what we approved this project a year and a half ago. Um these are the drawings of what that finished product is is going to look on the first page. Okay. And if you go to the next page, this is what he the color change he wants to do to incorporate like the red brick color that we have all over downtown where we required, you know, I've asked a lot of people to to put the brick on their buildings.

It's the material's there. It's just going to be painted. It's hardy board. No. Um procedurally. Yep. Tell me. Um he's trying to make an amendment to site plan and architectural So, shouldn't he file an application? Okay. Now, this I've just brought this here. I think it needs to be noticed for the public because we're changing. Okay. And we are trying this person to follow follow the path like we

I mean I have no question but I think procedurally it should be an application for amendment architectural reviews to be properly noticed so the public can see it and then vote once because he did paint it underneath.

He said he will paint a couple of the spots up on the side of the building. Um, we can reach out to him and tell him he's got to put an application. Okay. I think it looks great. Okay. I'm saying we can't vote on this tonight. Number one, it doesn't have an application. The plan hasn't been to the public and we need the public wants to come and speak for or against it. Okay.

So, I think there's a process that he needs to follow. The applicant should be told based upon the feedback and the informal discussion. We agree. We like Okay. Yeah. Right. All right. I make a motion we adjourn this meeting. Uh, the Thunder is playing right now. Game seven. So, if you can tune in on radio, it's it's on TV on at Fenomores right now. Anyone that wants I will I am officially on vacation. Wait a minute. No, Thunder's playing. Our hometown team and I will be more than happy to buy