City Council - Regular Meeting
About this meeting
- Government Body
- City Council
- Meeting Type
- City Council
- Location
- Glen Rose, TX
- Meeting Date
- September 9, 2025
Transcript
283 sections (from 991 segments)
Okay. Everybody ready? It's 5:30. That clock's off about Let it ri off. I got 5:30. 5:30. This one says 5:30.
Okay. We're going to begin the regular city council meeting for Tuesday, September 9th. Uh 5:30 p.m. And go. If we can stand for invocation from Miss Dallas Burge.
Um, generally, Father, we just thank you for this opportunity to just come together. We pray for a hedge of protection over our town and its people. God, we just ask um that our motives align with yours. We want to bring you honor and glory. I pray for wisdom and I pray for discernment. And I pray this in the mighty name of Jesus. Amen. Amen. The pledge of allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
Texas the flag. I aliance to the Texas one state one and indivisible. Roll call. Uh, council member Mes here. Council member Schultz present. Council member Breeze present. Council member Bruning present.
Got a quorum. And I'm going to read this here. I ask that each individual addressing city council do so in an orderly and respectful manner. Please attempt to address any issues, concerns, or suggestions in the public comment section of the meeting. Public comments outside of the section will be limited. All speakers shall approach the podium. Provide your name and address for the record. The comments for the public the comments from the public during both agenda items for public hearings and agenda items for individual consideration will be limited to three minutes per person. Each person will be allowed to speak once and your time cannot be shared. I ask that everyone silence your phones for the duration of the meetings. Uh the city council meeting the city council members will give their undivided attention to all speakers and presenters. I ask and those in attendance please offer the same courtesy to the council during their deliberations. I ask that the council members please be acknowledged by meeting chair prior to speaking. Thank you. And we have one um citizen comment, Miss Dallas Burch. You'll Yes, ma'am. State your name and your address.
Hello, I'm Dallas Burch. I live at 100 Bossy Street, Unit B in Glenrose, Texas. Um I'm excited to share a vision for a community dog park that brings our community together. Dog parks provide a safe space for socialization, exercise, and community building while promoting physical and mental well-being. This initiative should encourage locals to experience Glenrose from a new perspective, foster authentic community engagement, and potentially become a tourist attraction for pet owners. I would also like to propose the allocation of a secured dog park area within an existing park if a new park is not feasible. Thank you for your time and consideration and I look forward to seeing Glenrose continue to thrive.
Thank you. And now we'll open the public hearing for uh proposed tax rate at 5:34 p.m. Does anybody in the public audience want to speak on the tax rate? No.
534. You want to do too? You want me to read it? Okay. Um, public hearing regarding a request to reszone the property located at 1113 Ren Street, acres 0.387, tract C7-11, abstract A136. A136 Milm County School LD track C7-11 from B2 a general commercial district to an R2 single and two family district.
Anybody want to speak on public comment? I mean on public hearing. I just have where is it located? Where is It's around the corner by um coming off Bernard Street going around uh the drip plumbing business. Thank you very much. I went by to see it today. That's all I needed to know cuz I was trying to find it. Thank you. Did you want to speak? Yeah. This is not This is public hearing. This isn't their Sorry guys for your presentation.
Okay. So, we'll close the public hearing at 5:36 and we'll need to go down to individual items for consideration number seven. Discussion, consideration, possible action regarding request to reszone the property located at 1113 Ren Street acres 0.387 track C711 abract uh A136 A136 Milum School LD track C711 from B2 general commercial district to R2 single and two family district. Do you want to hear the presentation first or you want to hear PZ first?
We'll hear PNC trader chairman of PNC 205 Southwest Bernard Street. Um the commission heard on this subject and we looked extensively at the zoning. Um, it would appear that because all the way up Bernard Street at a point in time, the zoning was changed from um residential into business commercial. Um, however, when you actually look at everything right around it and across the street, it's all residential. So, we wouldn't be spot zoning. Um we are back we we have neighboring property that is an R. So we would allow us to change this to R and it is in keeping with a current use of the neighboring properties. So the recommendation from the commission was a unanimous yes to the reason.
Thank you David. Okay. Uh David Dickens, 1478, County Road 409 in Nemo. Um yes, so we're the ones working on the project there on Ren Street. Um so we're just uh the goal or I guess the hope is to reszone it from a B2 to a R2, which would allow us to build single family detached housing versus uh versus attached housing. So instead of a quad flex, we build three individually detached um single family homes. Um and so in order to do this, we're working with the uh uh working with Teresa at Texas Surveying uh to replplat that lot into three lots to fit a 25 foot by 80 foot uh alley load entry product there. Um yeah,
you're going too far for the reason. Okay. Sorry. Sorry. Well, yeah, obviously looking looking to reason on that particular property. Uh we believe that residential be a great use for that particular location. So, thank you. Yeah. Any questions?
Uh nothing other than we have a lot of bad addresses on returns. We sent out, it's not your responsibility, I guess, but we sent out uh what 15 properties and got 13 returned.
I will have to look into that with um Jody. I think they were correct at the I don't know. It says two letters 15 total were sent representing 15 properties. Two letters confirmed as received. So we got a notification back. 13 letters unconfirmed as received. One favorable response out of the two that had been confirmed.
I will say if those people are using KO boxes, which many of them are, it takes a lot longer for certified letters. I did not get a certified letter until a month after the actual certified letter. So, our postal service if they're on a PO box is is more difficult. Is there some rule that I mean a certain number cannot be returned until like we send out an additional mailer to make sure that everybody's been notified? I don't think so. So even if all of these were returned to us, that wouldn't be
we made the effort to Okay. Assuming we made the effort to notify to the address that we had on file on file and there is a sign on the property. We made a good effort. There is a sign on the property that states they're requesting you and there was a posting in the and it's also posted in the newspaper and then it's been posted on the city website too.
Okay. Also, just an FYI, which I'm sure you're all aware of, if we go down to the postal service and read, we used to have mail pick up at like 7 a.m. and again at 4. You know, there is no evening mail pickup. So, whatever we mail today doesn't get picked up till tomorrow morning and it doesn't make its tracking out. So, we're I'm not making excuse. I'm just stating the fact because we've had to adjust our mailings and our returns on that also. So I just
there was plenty of time because we had the mailings and the returns at the PNC meeting which was 10 days. It has to be mailed 10 days prior. Okay. So no, it's a fair statement and we all need to remember that. So call for
I mean if they want to make somebody wants to make a motion they can approve the reasonzoning from a B2 to an R2 for the use of three You're not doing free. No, no, no. I'll second. All in favor? Four. All good. Five. Sorry.
I'm sorry. 5. Then now we'll move back into You can sit down, David. Um we'll move back second. Uh the public hearing item three uh at 543. Veronica, will you read that
public hearing regarding a request to for a replant on the property located at 1113 Ren Street as submitted by Teresa McGee, Texas Surveying and Engineering Incorporated, acres 0.387, track C7-11, abstract A136, A136, Milm County School LD, track C7-11 Sorry, this item um came before the commission. Um we have looked at the plat. Um we had a lot of discussion about um setbacks um and what would be required. um they're actually not the corner lot, but because there's nothing on the corner lot, they're being considered the corner lot. So, we would need a variance on the setback from the corner. Um if you're looking at it that they are the corner lot,
I see an unknown person's that we're still trying to find owns the corner the actual corner lot.
Okay. Um, and it would be if if found then it was discussed on what their stance would be of taking that land versus not needing it because then they would be the second lot and they would just have a 7 foot setback instead of the 25, right? Um we did speak with um public works about water and sewer to ensure that the city could provide that without any difficulty and we were assured that that wasn't going to be an issue. Um we looked at um the entrance um for the plats. There is a side entrance coming off Ren to be very similar to the bungalows over off Holder Street, Holden Street. So there would be an entrance off Ren kind of a back alley for uh garage access from the back of the property which um all of those um questions and concerns um setbacks and sizing of the property um was discussed in great detail. Um the commission voted uh for for the plaid and there was an an opposition and that was me. Um and it has nothing to do with the residentialness of the property. it is that the size of the properties being recommended for build, the price point of the properties that that would likely entail, and the fact that they were two stories when most of the property around them were one stories. I just felt that that wasn't the best use for the property for that particular plat of land. Although I am in favor of housing there, um it just my opinion that that wasn't the right housing on that
particular place of land, but the commission as a whole voted to move it forward to you for recommendation. I would recommend you guys has now listen to Teresa for all the other details about the plans. Thank you very get out of the public hearing. She shouldn't have spoke in the public hearing. We were we were in the public hearing. Sorry. Oops. The public hearing at 5:46. Now open a Would you read that again, Veronica? Please.
Okay. Discussion, consideration, possible action regarding a request of a replad on the property located at 1113 Ren Street as submitted by Terresa McGee, Texas Surveying and Engineering Incorporated, acres 0.387, track C7-11, abstract A136, A136, Molly County School, LD, track C7-11.
Hi, how are you guys this evening? My name is Teresa McGee, 104 South Walnut Street, Weatherford, Texas 76086. Um, I'm representing the owner on the replat for this area. We're requesting three lots total. Um, we did request variances on the corner lot setbacks as well as the uh lot frontage. Frontage for our two if zone would actually be 60 ft and we have it at 45, 45, and 49 ft. as well as the square footage, which would be 6,000 square feet, and we're just a little bit shy of that. So, we meet the other requirements for zoning in this area. Um, but we do fall a little bit short on the road frontage as well as the square footage for the property. And I'm here to answer any questions that you guys may have. So just for the sake of your all of your knowledge, the plat are preliminary plat and the variance requests have not been sent to city council yet. So right now it's really just a plat not about the setbacks but
so is the uh design of the homes or the proposed design of the homes is the front of the residence facing Bernard do I have that right and then of course the the back of it then would be facing I for what street is basically the the stone house that's there. Do I have that right? Yes sir. Yeah. And what's the square footage of these homes that are proposed? Um, in a range between 1,800 to 2,000 square feet.
So, I'm looking for this mysterious lot that's or or this strip. I don't I don't see it on this survey call out, but maybe I'm not sure where I'm looking. Um, it will be this area right here that we call Ren Street. If you have a copy of this plot, yes, we found it was either a no man's land or at one point dedicated to the city to widen Ren Street. So, it's so this this one estimate says it's 55 from the center line of Ren Street. It's 27.2 feet from that corner in the back that we show.
Okay. to that uh CIS symbol that you see on the southwest part of the block three block one that's proposed. So it's a it's 27 foot by it's 20 approximately. Yes sir. That's what we said. But you you didn't uncover a new owner for it. No, we did not.
And the deed that we had was so old going back that it could have been a surveyor's error at that point in time. That's a lot. 20 something.
You're telling me we see it all the time. It varies foot by foot every year. Uh but in this case we did not discover that it currently belonged to anybody and we couldn't see where it was deed out to anybody new and actually the previous surveyor had included that in this lot and our surveyor would not co-sign on that previous legal description because it did not match the previous deeds. [Music] So Cam, tell me again. So they're here to present the plat, but we don't I mean, what were you saying before? The varian here to present the plat. Yeah.
What you will look at includes basically the footprint of the building they want, right? Um and then the setbacks. Got it. the setbacks don't meet our minimums. So, they're going to have to apply for a variance to meet the minimums. So this is kind of one of those situations where ideally they would have been the variance and the plat at the same time but the plat as far as dividing the land into three could be approved contingent on the variance approvals for setbacks. I see. Okay.
Yes. We actually had another plot that we were going to propose today that was for separate law. under that B2 zoning. Um, which is why he mentioned quadlexes earlier, right? So, we wanted to present this plot. This is the one that we're hoping for, but we do have a contingency if it is not reszoned. Got it. And you had mentioned the price point on each of these dwellings. What is the price point? Roughly about 400,000. Okay. Because yeah, just in construction right now, it's hard to build anything for less than $200 a foot. Gosh. Which is just crazy. But yeah, that's kind of where it's at right now with the market.
Okay. Have y'all built here locally before? Yes, ma'am. Yeah. For the last two years, just out in the county though. Nothing. Okay. And then there's going to be a kind of a driveway in front. No, the all driveway access will be on the rear off of Ren Street specifically. And again, that is the back Ren that accesses to the back. Yes, there's not going to be any front driveway access from Bernard whatsoever. Two car garage. Yes.
Like the street and that's the front and this is the alley. Any more questions? Yeah. Yeah, it's been wonky. It didn't work. The cat didn't try to get into county cab. Look at that. Cat didn't pull up. Mysterious property. But
I was just going to ask who was the when was the last deed on that property filed and who was the owner of record? Well, that would have been his company, but prior to that, it was the same deed carried over from the 1950s, the same legal description as a traded hands. And before that, that was early 1900s. So, in the 1950s, Google,
we did not run title on the property, which would have done a discovery on that to see when that discrepancy came. Yeah, that's a chunk. It's a nice chunk of land, trust me.
Or the city could quit deed it and take it over and expand street at some point in time. second meeting.
So you you made the comment that uh if this didn't fly, you we're talking about a forplex. Fourplex and it would have been four lots. Yes, sir. And is that still going back to twotory? Yes. Yeah. It's about to be two story 18 to 2,000 foot structure. That's the one hard part is is everything in that area is is not twostory. The the only thing I would say is is if you look at Holden Street, it's the same way. Those are twostory and the properties around them aren't twostory story.
Hold them over by the junior high junior high to the hospital where the town houses are. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And that's what I'm thinking that these are going to very similar. They'll be a little bit larger, but very similar layout like lot wise and that entry to the garage. Oh, so it's garage, not just covered. Yeah, actually. Okay.
Any more questions? I I have to tell you, I kind of like it. I like the idea of getting a little density. You know, we struggle to get housing. I can't say that's necessarily affordable, but I it's been I've been out of the market a long time, so I don't know. Um I I think we I think we need housing. Again, I think we've talked about it a lot. We need housing at all different levels. if we could move something off of that habitat meeting that we had four or five months ago and then something like this where you plop in some nice housing in a established area in an established neighborhood. [Music]
Is that a motion? Yeah, I will. I will. Nobody else wants to read all that. Nobody. I will. I'll make a motion to approve the replat of located 1113 Ren Street 387 acres from track number C7-11 of the 136 abstract of Malm County School Land Survey track C7-11. I'll second that. All in favor? Thank you so much. Appreciate your time. Thank you.
Now, now we'll go back into public hearings. Item four, public hearing regarding recommendations for amending 14.0205 definitions. open at 5:58. Any comments? Okay, we'll close that public hearing and move to individual items for consideration. Number nine, uh, discussion, consideration, possible action regarding recommendations for amending 14205 definitions.
Pam, you're signed up to speak. Well, you're in public hearing, aren't you?
He closed it. Okay. Sorry, I was giving your other people instructions on their next tackle. All right. Um, first I am going to apologize that you've gotten some documentation. Um, as of tonight, I had a massive computer failure and after spending a week with Apple trying to revive, I had to start over. So, um I will say that the computer lasted 12 years before she died. So, I can't really complain too much, can I? Um so, the first thing that you would have had in your packets um was regarding um an accessory building that did not actually pass. um council t or commission tabled it so we won't have you guys vote on that. Um we did add the definition of an artisan retail shop and that is asis was in your packet. Um the idea for this is that a number of conversations have come up about what are we really looking for in um that downtown area kind of some of the the square and some of the side streets to the square. And in some cases when they have been when locations have been tried as retail shops and they're just not getting the foot traffic. We learned that's not the best place. We don't have the proper signage. We don't have enough draw for people to walk off the square, another block to find some of these shops that are just slightly out of the way. But if we allowed what I would call destination shops
where it's a trades craft being practiced with them demonstrating how to do it and selling their items, that's a different type of shop. that becomes something that people will walk to because it's a it's a learning experience. So, we actually just had um the opportunity um in the last week to have the makaker table um open up in Jack Bridg's property next to China walk. And that is by all means what we're describing as an artisan type shop where they are building things, they are doing things, they're teaching workshops and classes. We just wanted to put a formal definition in um so that um we can draw from that type of client people and go look we are friendly to this. So that's really what that whole definition was about um just kind of to so that as we go out and and people do economic development to encourage artisan type establishments. They may sell things, they may demo things, they may do things, but it's more a craftsman type work. And I think it really will belong in some of these nooks and crannies that haven't necessarily thrived um as a retail shop at this to this point.
So I have a question on that. Yes. Just so artisan retail shops we have a definition but I didn't find it in the schedule of uses.
You are correct. We have to go back and add that but we have a bunch of things that have to be changed in the schedule of uses. So um we wanted to establish that first and then as we're continue to work on the overlay the artisan shop will come into the schedule of uses with the overlay. Um the next convers the next definition that you had was assisted living facility. Um and again this had come up as a request um through the building officials office. Um it was asked uh by a person if we would allow an assisted living home in a private residence. Um and after a lot of research um the commission came back and said we would but you have to have at least four which puts them under state regulations so that nobody has to feel awkward that they are not having any oversight or supervision at the state health level and at um the licensing and bonding. So, at the state of Texas, four um and above in a in a private residence is allowed under state guidelines. If it's less than four, then there's no oversight of any kind. So, the commission felt um that four follow to get this to the state was appropriate. So, what happens if somebody leaves for whatever reason?
As long as the facility as long as the facility is set up for four people plus the resident that's staying there, it they fall under the state guideline. If they have a vacancy, right, if they have a vacancy, it doesn't change what the state's doing. They're required to have the bonding and licensing inspection. Yeah. No. Okay.
No, it's just that they have the setup to manage for those four, whether it's two or four, that requires them to be under state guidance. All right. The next item that came up was gun manufacturing. Um, and this one does have a change. um you have the original definition of gun manufacturing, but then you have a secondary um which is gun smithing. And so it properly defines the difference. Um and it has been brought to our attention by multiple times that this has been an inquiry that we need to have um allowances for. And we have a pretty restrictive schedule of use on it. So gun smithing we are more flexible with than we are on gun manufacturing. What's our schedule for gun smithing?
We'll get to that. Got me wondering now.
Our our next definition that we had to add that we were also adding um into uh the notes on the schedule of uses um is an ice cream truck. It turns out that our mobile food vendor does not take into account ice cream trucks. So after much discussion, the uh commission said yes to ice cream trucks with some caveats. And these are the extra caveats that have been added to your document from your book that you cannot stop within 200 feet of a food establishment unless the customer has waved you down. That if you are stopping, you cannot stop for more than five minutes. and that you will not be able to stop in a school zone um from the hours of 6:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. Monday through Friday. We did say that um if the if the truck is on private property, that's fine. So, if the school invites a truck onto its property, it's allowed to come in and stop. But
well, that's not private property. because it's private pro. Well, in essence it is, but yes, I understand what you mean. But the key here was um individuals brought up the concern of what if a what if a ice cream truck parks right in front of Shoefly Soda Shop? That's not really kosher. And because our mobile food ordinance doesn't allow the 200 f feet, we agreed to bring that on to the food to the ice cream truck. But at the same time, we want to allow a person who wants to flag down a truck to be allowed to stop within that 200 ft. We needed it to be at 6:00 a.m. But is that if I hear if I'm hearing an ice cream song?
I we we just we took the school we took it that you couldn't be in the school zone stopping during hours that students were going to be maneuvering around the school zones. That's really why so the truck can't operate that early. So, the only thing I would have is that a lot of the schools have after school tutorials and they don't get out until like junior high gets out at 4:40. Okay.
From their after school stuff, tutorials and the buses are running and all of that stuff. So if you guys want to amend the hours during the motion, you are you are able to do that and then we'll adjust the hours in the documents for um posting Veronica later. Does this also include the snow cone trucks?
Yes, it does. Okay. Yes, it does. Got it. All right. The Let's see here. The other item is it has come to our attention that we did not actually actively state that a restaurant could have outdoor seating. So we are amending that definition.
Why? Because somebody asked and somebody said, "Oh no, you can't do that." Because we have in the schedule uses it specifically said indoor
and so we were fixing and that is the only definition changes that we have requested. did your review and approval on. I like them. Thank you.
Pam, is there a I guess my question is why are we not getting the one definition through? Do we is there a reason why we just left that one out right now? I mean I know you said it didn't pass on the accessory dwelling. Uh yes.
Um it didn't it's not that it didn't pass. It was tabled um alto together. Um there is much discussion about the legalities of um I'm trying to come up with the right word. Hang on a minute. of selective um tenants. And so um we either have to say that the accessory building can be open to all or we have to say that it can be open to none. And so there was much debate. Um and so we have taken it back to the table to verify some more legal documentation on it.
Okay. because we either have right now we don't allow it and we it came up um that in an R1 which is a single family home many a selection of residents have built a second dwelling on their property that they're using as a guest house for family members and we don't want to disrupt that situation. But we don't want that home to be used as a short-term rental um or a long-term rental because that violates what is the definition of R1. So we are working our way through legal ease to find the right balance to get something helpful to our residents without violating R1. That is why There was quite a bit of interest during that meeting. Lots of feedback. Yes. So, so that is that has been tabled which is why you do not have it for discussion today.
You have another question. Oh, no more questions action. Did did are you concerned about the time frames? Just at till 5:00 pm, I think, because so many schools get out past 4 for tutorials and stuff. So, if we bumped it to five, I would even say 7 to 5. Not that anybody's going to be there before that, I don't think, but
Well, that's fine. 7 to five. 7 is the actual start of food trucks in our food truck ordinance. They can't work before 6 anyways, so we can easily move it to seven. Um, and then again in your motion, if you just alter the time, we can adjust that for you.
I'll make the motion. Um, I recommend that we approve the amendments being made to 1402005 definitions with the exception of changing the times from 7 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. on our food trucks being in front of the schools. I'll second that. All in favor? All against zero passes. Back to public hearings. Uh number five, public hearing regarding recommendations for amending chapter 14, appendix A, schedules of uses to include not limited to short-term rentals allowed in B3 district. at 6:14. Any comments? We'll close the public hearing. 6:15 and we'll go to um individual items. Number 10, discussion, consideration, possible action regarding the recommendations for amending chapter 14, appendix A, schedule of uses to include and not li to include but not limited to short-term rentals allowed in the B3 district.
All right. So, if you will start, can you say your name and address, please? Pamela Streer, 205 Southwest Bernard. I am here as your PNZ chair. Thank you.
All right. Um if you will actually start um you'll go one, two, three on the fourth page of the schedule uses. Um we made an alteration. Um manufacturing guns used to be in the industrial zone as a specific use permit. Um we are recommending a change to just allow that. and the industrial zone. Then the next line down was um artisan guns and we changed the wording from manufacturing artisan guns to artisan guns smmith and we will allow that in B2 openly and then with an SUP in B3. and an X. It should be an X under industrial.
Say that again as far as locations. So, artisan gunsmithing would be allowed in B1. B2 B2. It would be allowed in B2. A special use permit in B3. When an overlay comes into play, we will address the overlay. Um, but we're also changing the specific use permit in industrial to allowed
B1 was allowed or specific. Uh, B1 is allowed. Uh we have had um sorry is that B1 B2 I'm sorry B2 is allowed B1 it's not B2 it is B1's not allowable correct my sorry my columns off so it would be allowed in B2 it would be special use permit in B3 skip the overlay line because it doesn't exist yet and then it would A um an X and industrial allowed and industrial.
Do we need to differentiate between artisan gunsmithing and a gunsmith shop? No, we can change that language. Gunsmith shop is fine. Except the gunsmith shop has different acceptance and non-acceptance. That one shows accepted in B1 and it's totally blank in B2. No, that's the manufacturing gun. Manufacturing different than a gunsmith. What are you looking? I'm looking a gunsmith shop. Gunsmith shop. The show has an Exxon. Exxon B1, nothing in B2, specific use in B3 and an X in industrial.
Oh, there you go. And and but the artisan gun Smith kind of reverse the B1 B2. Yeah, they should line up, right? They Well, honestly, we only need one. It's a duplicate now. So, an X and B2, an S and it would be an S in B3 and X. So, if we combine the goal between both of them and just have gunsmith shop. So the permanent gunsmith shop that shows B1 we're taking it out of B1. No, it's in B2. I think it's in the B1 column. Yeah.
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. No, it's B2 column. Yeah, it's the B2 column. Yeah, B2 column. So it would be allowed in B2, the special use permit in B3 and allowed in industrial. And we'll get rid of the line manufacturing artisan gunsmith because nothing would preclude a gunsmith shop from working on an artisan gun. Right. Right. Correct. That was probably just a brake fart on my part.
So the manufacturing artisan guns completely is going to be removed, right? And we'll just use the word gunsmith shop above the line above. Okay.
Thank you. Ice cream truck we're adding and allowing in all zones. We altered um the line the the line item. If you go to the next sheet where it says restaurant or cafe, it said inside dining only. We've now said inside and outside dining. Nothing else changed on that line. Do you happen to know what the cost of a food truck registration is?
Uh, it's 300. Since an ice cream truck will have to follow that definition, correct? No, that's Well, they have to apply for a truck permit here. Yeah, that's they have to meet the health standards paid to us.
Paid to the city. All right. If we keep moving on into the industrial work, we noticed that we had gun manufacturing again. So, we were removing that line item. This just it was somehow made it onto the chart twice. And then we noticed that and that should be an X. Well, because that line item's got all together. It doesn't matter. Okay, never mind. I said anything. Uh we noticed that grainery or jin um was just being plainly allowed. Um I make the recommendation that we actually do turn that into a specific use permit. um there is a lot of um dust and volatile material that can explode. And so if indeed somebody wants to put that in industrial when we have a lot of other manufacturing in that area, we might just want to think about its neighbors. And we were just throwing it out there again. the likelihood of us getting that in our town is small but as we have learned if we don't have a plan for it um it usually will bite us if you move on down to residential um and it's not highlighted actually go above residential it's the bed and breakfast um a residential home that doesn't change
because that's a residential home. What we're looking at for that change in bed and breakfast in B3 is more of the commercial side. Um, I got to find it. Hang on. And I think it is the one we have to add to the schedule under re under the commercial. Um let me see where that is. you have hotel, motel, or inn. We would be adding um an Airbnb, a short-term rental to the line item right above ice cream truck. And we would be making that a specific use permit um in B3.
Where are you at again? I'm sorry, I had skipped forward. It's right above the ice cream truck line. So back above residential section. Okay. The condition that we placed on this in B3 is that it has to be on the second floor. Um or the Nope, that was it. Just the second floor. Okay. So, hotel, motel, or in that's what you're talking about. We will add short-term rental to that line. Okay.
And on the B3, we will add that the condition is to be on the second floor. We on the square, we do not want a first floor short-term rental. We want retail, restaurant, foot traffic drawing things. but allowing one on the second floor above those items seems appropriate. Um there is an Airbnb or a short-term rental pro like right across the street from your property. Yes.
And what's the how would this affect that? So that's a very complicated one. It technically wouldn't affect that. Okay. In that that property actually did not officially receive a variance from the city but received permission to move ahead per Stan the city attorney. And when was that? Um two years ago.
Two years ago. So, what had happened with that property is um they started work, they pulled permits, uh short-term rentals were allowed, um changes were made there during the time that they were doing the work, they allowed their permits to lapse. And so, between when they had originally pulled the permit to the next time they tried to pull the permit, um short-term rentals were not allowed. So there was a lot of debate um on should this by all means the city had every right to say no. Um but Stan made the suggestion to ease tension let it go.
That stays the same unless it was to take ownership. Technically it's a commercial building although there is no variance or SU on it. It's verbalized sup. Okay. So, by our sup regulations, if this were to change hands and be used as a short-term rental again, we allow that with SUPs. Okay. Because it I think it just sold,
correct? We've had I've had a long talk with her and explained everything and said, you know, yes, you don't actually have an SUP on your property, but you were granted one verbally, so we are going to treat it like it's an SUP per conversation Joe and I had. I see. But an SUP is only good for the owner that it's they have to f they have to So they don't reapply. They have No, they don't reapply. they have to do a property ownership change because remember we changed SUPs that in residential zones they don't they don't renew they don't move with the sale of a property
but in commercial we allowed it to stay with the property not the owner as long as the property was being used as is. Okay, got it. So, she gets to keep it on a verbal agreement. Do we need to do anything formally? Yes, we really do. And with the new owner, we will do we will make sure that that happens. Okay.
So, are there any other short-term rentals that are on the bottom floor around the square? St. Helen's Cottage. Okay. But that one's basically grandfathered in. No, that was approved with an SU. Okay. Okay. It doesn't matter. Right. It doesn't face the square. Right. Okay. All right. Thank you.
You're welcome. All right. So, that's that. Now, going on to residential, you'll see that we added the assisted living Um, and we said it was a specific use permit in all residential zones. All residential. All residential. And those are the only recommended changes we were making. Again, I apologize you didn't have all the correct information in front of you, but thank you for your patience and let it be
a question that has nothing to do with any of those. Group home, community home, there's an SU, but it's in red. Is there a probably just a a car? Just a carryover. I don't know if it was something that was changing. No, no. Just to carry over from when we color code the sheets at times so that we understand what we're doing because it's a difficult thing.
Discussion questions. I guess I I I go back to the the thought about the assisted living in a residential area. You think about how large a house would be need to be to have minimum of five bedrooms because you need four residents plus someone there
put put two people in in a bedroom two singles. So, I will tell you that in past experiences that I have had with some of these homes related to my grandparents, um they were um they were small bedrooms. Um they they had, you know, five bedrooms, but it was still a you know, 2500 foot house, which is not abnormal in our community. Um, and so it's not, you know, an ideal large bedroom with, you know, living with, it's a bed. They get a bed, they get a chair, they get a dresser. Um, usually it's a hospital bed. Um, but it is allowing somebody who doesn't feel comfortable in a larger assisted living center, which we don't have here in Glenrose, to be able to have family members being cared for by a licensed professional. If we go to a smaller size, then we lose that licensing. I was thinking about to the larger size maybe make it five.
Okay. So that the threshold is a little bit higher get a little larger structure. Okay. And the cost of entry into the business is a little bit higher. So I couldn't convert one of my rent houses to a assisted living type. Okay. Facility. I understand your thinking and we will go with the flow of whatever council decides. I've just been kind of thinking through that I and I I guess I don't want to be harsh but you know do we want So we have never allowed this before right so this came up
it's never come up right it came up on a request but they wanted three and we felt strongly along with m most of the audience um two meetings ago that having an unlicensed facility was not something anybody wanted in this town. So, we went to the minimum that required the license, but we can again also say it's still not allowed.
Could there be a square footage requirement? It's by the state. It's just a number of bedrooms. Well, I think we follow the state's numbers be best, I guess. I don't know if that's right. Terminal use, but well, you I mean, you can certainly go up in number because it's just going to require the state. It has to just meet the state minimum. You can go higher than that. But who monitors that? If we say five, who's monitoring that there's five people in there? Well, it's not five people. It's that there would be six bedrooms. Oh, just the number of bedrooms.
It's just it would just be the number of bedrooms. When when they apply for their special use permit, we would have to have a floor plan to show that they had the bedrooms for a private person to work and live there or work there and stay there because in many cases the person, it may be a private home, but they have three or four people on shift and they have a bedroom for them to use. And then the five five bedrooms for the individuals. And it has to be turn like a dining room into a bedroom. Does it have to like have a closet or definition of a bedroom is with a closet? A lot of times those places do turn
they do. And that all of this is under a specific use permit. So, it's always going to be each and every time it comes forward to you, the council will have the the say of this is appropriate or not appropriate. But that threshold for the specific use permit was changed by the legislature. No longer can you have if you have more than 20% opposed, I think they passed the law that you can't like redline. That was that that was their words that you had to have a supermajority. Correct. That's always been the case. But I think they've changed the law. I don't think that is allowed anymore.
Super majority. Correct. The super majority% posted. It's just dead. No. No. It's a simple majority regardless of who who generates public concern and gets letters back. the majority. It's still a majority. It's still a majority and the council can't over
correct. Can't require a super majority. You you may get 100% opposed. Well, that's that's a bad example. You may get 25% opposed, but the the threshold is still just a majority of the council, not a super majority. I think they the legislature when they were kind of fooling around with accessory dwelling units and and what they called redlinining this this kind of ability to require a super majority to to do something or not do something. Well, I I will certainly make sure that we know what that rule is moving forward.
Yeah, it's going to catch us. Well, is it required to have each person have an independent bedroom? Because I thought they could share a bedroom. I've been facilities. From what from what I have read, it is that they have to have four bedrooms. So, this is a private resident, not a like a nursing home. So, the laws are different, but it's to my understanding, it is not necessarily the number of people, but it is the number of bedrooms that they're capable of doing. And in most cases, I have never seen one that had multiple people in one room unless they were married in a private home.
I um could you just verify is this going to be state regulated? Yes. Okay. because sometimes uh what you're talking about there can be a negative connotation and sometimes they don't always follow state regulation and I just want to make sure that the residents who are already in a vulnerable position are going to take that is actually why when the request came to us for three and we learned the state regulation was four we moved to four and said we won't you already no I just that's a main concern I work in this industry so I want to make sure that our vulnerable population is taken care of in addition to the families. Absolutely.
Um I'm sure you've done this, but have you already discussed with like TGR that's a local company they own multiple facilities. Is there already a facility that maybe we have or maybe we can partner with to try to open up an assisted living? I know that's new. So this is this is not a commercial property. It's a it's called it's a private residence right that what they provide to corporate though
right but this is a person who came to the who came and said I would like to be able to place individuals in my home for care it could it's it's limited medical care it's monitoring of pill taking hospice we have hospice we have this is nothing to do with hospice has nothing to do. Yeah. So, no, I don't know what they the individuals have worked with. Our initial answer was we don't allow that at all. understand. So, we're simply stating, is this something that we would consider?
And if we do consider it, then anybody who wants to actually do it will have to come before PNZ and the council with further details of their business plan and more details on the property and what it's going to take and whether or not we will let them do it. So, we're just at the prelim. Is the city gonna allow anything like this or nothing like this? I would definitely recommend like talking to Oh, no. We know TGR. Well, thank you absolutely. So, under this definition of assisted living also, does that allow for like handicapped? Yes.
So, it could be it is not just elderly. It could be a um impaired individual, youth, adult, etc. But but it does not allow for juveniles that are in trouble or something like that. No, that in order for them to take the person in, it would have to follow the state guidelines of who they are allowed to facilitate care for. So it wouldn't be a youth home for No, that's my place. Bless your heart.
No, I take the youth in. Um, no, this would be one that this they would have to have paperwork. They have to fill it in for the state. They have to do monthly logs and reports. Um, but it could include um people of mental or physical disabilities that are not necessarily considered elderly.
Any more questions?
Action. So, I'm going to recommend that we motion the other stuff collectively and then take this particular one off and if there needs to be a different action for that or if there's any of these definitions that you want to treat differently than the majority of definition or schedule changes. If there's any of these schedule changes, let's take that out of the motion and let the rest go through and then anyone that we're hesitant on or want to change, we can handle in a separate motion. So, the definitions are done. This is the schedule of use changes. I'll make a motion to approve the recommended changes to chapter 14 appendix A schedule of uses. Um, however, with the removal at this time of the residential
assisted living assisted living component. Second by mates. All in favor? All against 50 passes. Now we can address the assisted living.
Can I ask a question? So Dallas, you have experience in this area. So So have you what is your feeling on how the state regulates this? Do they do it? Good job. Terrible job. They only come when somebody reports something. I mean, do you know anything about the state part of this?
So, so my role with a local nursing home, I do admissions and marketing. So, it's kind of the business side. Um, I know an overview, but I can give you context, but know details. My experience and from what I've heard, it's not as regulated as a corporate owned facility. And I know people have their qualms with corporation, but they're in place to make sure that a vulnerable population is taken care of. In Glenrose, we are well known for decades for taking care of our older population, not only at Glenrose Nursing and Rehab, but also Cherokee. So, I just want to make sure that our reputation is maintained, but more importantly, I just want to make sure those people are taken care of. So I just ask just as a humble citizen like just please do diligence and really do your homework on a private home versus a
Thank you. And you have some experience with that too. We'll have a private discussion um in the sense that it's not on the agenda for specifics, but as a nurse, I can give you exact data and I will be I have no problem with you and having that discussion because it's not an agenda item. Thank you. I'd like to recommend that you guys um not approve this and that we go back and you direct PNZ to go back and do more research. We've already approved when we No, you approve the rest. But you took that one out. Yes.
So now that one either needs a motion to move forward or That's right. Are you already? I I motion that the assisted living facility definition return to PNZ for additional research. Second. All in favor? [Applause] All against? Zero. Great. Thank you all. Thank you for your work. You're welcome.
Yeah. Thanks. Uh we'll move back to public hearings. Uh public hearing regarding um 2020 uh sorry 2025 2026 track rates for the city of Lunrose at 6:45 p.m. Any comments? close the public hearing at 6:45 p.m. and we'll move to individual items. Item 11, discussion, consideration, possible action regarding increase in trash rate for the city of Glenrose. I didn't need to unless there's any questions.
Just want to make sure we do have a representative here from Frontier if you have any questions on that pass through rate pretty much. So speak to pass it through or action you all want to take on that. So it's a 5% increase. Yeah. 4.95. The only question I had and uh Jim kind of answered it, but it was the current um hand load. The rate for a current handload is that like just the trash bag or or 55gallon drum that somebody's got to toss in. Is that on the
because that's different than the poly. Is that on the fee schedule? Yes, it's on the I'd have to look it up. I have it on my phone here. I don't know. residential current hand load. Currently the residential rate for a single is 987 and for anything additional it's 771 but the poly uh is 1280 and 904. The poly's are normal plastic trash cans. Correct. So yeah the residential rate for a poly is 987. Let's go to 1036.
Well, that's a handle. Paul's different. Where do you see? Yeah. I don't see Paulie. I don't see hand on this one. Does that No. Does that help? It's after four card. It's on our page 78. I'm looking at the um the sheets that they gave me the city.
So maybe there's no change in the residential poly. There's there's a 5% increase on the residential. I guess that was just a quick definition of a difference. That's all it was. Yeah. Why is that commercial? I've never heard of him. Could that be an extra charge? Maybe for physically going because I do have some of those. I've seen them do that on occasion. They'll they have to maybe like a B pick up.
Well, no. They they move the can to the rear of the truck and and they have it's it's not automated. Yeah. So, we'll retrieve the can, bring them back to the truck, like a um handicap. Yeah. For like an indigent handicap. Yeah. We have handicap stops that they have a sticker on and it's it says Frontier Waste and the driver brings it down to the street from the garage, dumps it, and then takes it back up to the garage. And I've even seen like I guess maybe when trucks down for maintenance, they bring an older model and it only loads from the rear. Yeah.
Yeah. We wouldn't charge different for that though. Just get a regular rate. The sheet I have it just shows res
we don't even have that on our I think that's just a typo that that's what you get the curves the hand so all right same thing thank you have we looked at the analysis where we we kind smoothed out the previous cost increases when we actually started this with Frontier. No, I have not looked at that. I know we didn't have increase previous year, so I know we increased last year. But no, and I can I can do that. Bring this back because we we we kind of did the math to back into
a smoother increase for everyone at different commercial levels. [Applause] [Music] Ultimately, if we're going to approve the 5%, those rates change by 5%. It's just likely not going to line up with our ordinance. If it's different, the 4.95 is already in the contract. It's already the contract of right. It's already
right. So, just for y'all's benefit, when we went with Frontier, we looked closely at these rates that were coming for commercial rates versus residential rates. And we we looked at the total number of counts in both categories and then what where what our anticipated expenses were going to be. And then we worked back and we we actually kind of cost shared some of those cost amongst other classes of customers. So like people who had a four didn't get as big of a an increase as someone who had a two. We tried to smooth it out a little bit and we did that with the first year of this current contract and then we followed it the second year and then we did not go up when we got another cost increase last year. We didn't go up. We absorbed that off of our uh franchise fee and then so now we're at 4.95 for this year on a CPI increase. So if we did a 4.95, it would change those rates should be in the range so that we're not losing money by billing trash. Does that make sense?
What we did three years ago or three and a half whenever when did we start? What was the year before? 203. Yep. a lot longer than that. Yeah. Like 2022. It was prior to me. Yeah. Yeah. I make a motion to pass along a 4.95% price increase at all
uh consumer and residential and commercial levels. I'll second that.
Second by council member Schulz. All in favor? All 5 passes. Um now discussion item 12 discussion consideration possible action regarding additions of no parking zone on both sides of Stadium Drive and Mary Lynn Drive and Allen Drive [Music] a put up to understand this. I was looking for a picture. I was having a hard time following. I don't because I guess the internet's down. this year. I'll try to do my best.
Um, so as y'all all know, I'm sure y'all been around the school campuses now that school started. So, um, from Maryland Drive to the intersection of Allen Drive and Stadium along Stadium Drive there. So, school is is letting out and I guess parent pickup. So, there's an enormous amount of cars in that area around that time of the day. It's so they line up in the in the street in multiple areas of kind of like a turn lane. And so what's happening is anybody that parks on the curb impedes the flow of that turn lane. And so the cars stack up behind a parked car. then we have multiple lanes of traffic waiting to turn and it and it just jams everything up. And so looking at that with different officials at the school, we're trying to eliminate that. So we were proposing to make a no parking zone through
best of luck. You're going to have some mad parents. I'm going to send them your direction. No, no. I mean, I'm talking about Park. I'm talking about parking and leaving. Oh, okay. Abandoning your vehicle. Yeah. Oh, man.
So, what about the the houses there on Stadium Drive? Well, they're those are the ones that they're the problem parking there because the the complaint is You ever dropped that? No, sir. I avoided smart. It's I'll drive two miles out of the way. Miss going home that way. So, so I think the issue is um See here. Yeah.
Yeah. So, so you can see here they they line up. There's there's an existing turn lane in the center, but everybody's waiting to turn in here. And then there's another turn lane that comes comes this way and turning here as well. So if a resident parks on the street, you can't you can't get by. So I think the the people that park out here actually the residents because what's happening is traffic stacks up
and then they're blocked in for an hour. And so my proposal was to make this a no parking zone and then just put signs asking people to not block cars in their driveway. Okay. What about on Marilyn towards George's house? Yeah, let's make that a hole in no parking. So the quadplex I didn't drive by. I forgot to How many parking spaces are there?
They they actually have a lot of a lot of parking spaces there and and they don't I see them parked on this side in the shade occasionally, but it's not been a problem during those hours. It's it's really just one or two people that that occasionally do that. Can we not just make it parking like pickup zones pick up time? Yeah, that's what the proposal was. 7 to 4, right? During it said
it's actually during school hours because even when when you know Christmas, Thanksgiving parties, whatever, it's a free-for-all. They line both sides of the street. Then they have parent pick up early release and just that's bypass. What about if it was residential parking only so people actually live there park on the street? Nobody else during those hours during those sets. Yeah. They're the ones on there. That's the problem. So, they're pulling their cars out of their driveway to be ready to go in case they so they won't get blocked in. Maybe,
right? That's what we think's happening. That's what the That's what one of the guys told the officer that he parks out there because if he wants out, he doesn't want to have to wait. But I can't imagine people don't let him out.
Sure. I used to live next to the junior out. Well, it kind of gets gridlocked like if someone's not thinking and they pull in there, it's bumper to bumper and then they get there an hour before school that's out. And so some of them I don't know about by the time it backs up that far. I'm not sure how early it still is, but he he has said that, man, if they get behind my car, I can't get out and and they can't move forward or backward because they got each other blocked in. Good.
What about, and this just another option, thinking outside the box, can we paint some white line striping across the street like they do in front of fire stations or whatever and say, "Do not block." No standing. of standing traffic or something. You know what I'm talking about?
Yeah. Dallas County idea was to put put signs out to do some stripings across the street just saying, you know, do not block driveway access and stencil in do not block. Just trying to think outside the box. I mean, I don't know. My my fear is that, you know, we can put whatever signage we want up there. We're still going to have people that are going to not think and block it in. So according to that map or what you're looking at is all the people that are going down Maryland and then they're turning right onto
onto stadium onto stadium and then they're turning left in that front one. But but is it blocking the last two houses? Well, what happens is is you also have depending on which grade like not everybody's going in here. Some of them go in here and so it backs up like all the way down and then they're turning in here. And so if someone parks there, you got this turn lane full of cars
and then then they turn on here and they kind of line up against the curb so the traffic can still fit between those two turn lanes. And everybody has a pretty good understanding of what needs to happen, but if one person parks up there, it jams up every messes up. in conversations with the school. What do they say or what would they like? They're the ones that are suggesting this. I thought it was the residents themselves. This is the school.
No, they would like to see people not be able to park out there during school hours so that it doesn't impede the flow of traffic. the homeowners or property owners or tenants um are like you can't make me not park there. You talked to them or that's just what the school the the sheriff's office it's been an ongoing problem for two or three years now. This this there's also a lane of traffic that backs up
way down this direction. They're they're all the way around this curve to go here. They're in this turn lane. They go there. There's a lane here. They're kind of down the stadium to go back. So like at the junior high, we have direction like pickup and drop off directional maps. And I know they have that at the intermediate as well. Well, the intermediate has changed so much because they have three and the only one that comes in the front is third grade. So, it's been way better for them.
So, I mean, I would think it's very difficult to tell the residents you can't park outside of your of your home on the street. I mean, has the school instituted any type of driving instructions or directions to make it less less favorable for them to come down Mary Lane and hang a right with the intention of going into the second grade parking lot, the teacher's parking lot, because it seems like that's the issue. It's not the people in the turn lane. Am I correct or am I not understanding? the the issue is really
it's those that are headed to the second grade parking lot. Well, or to the junior high if they're Yeah, because it it backs up in every direction. I I made the mistake of pulling into the new parking lot to try to kind of observe what's going on. And I was stuck. I had to go jump the curb, go through It's a nightmare. Nobody rides a bus anymore. No, that's right. Nobody's walking on sidewalk. It is crazy when people show up early walking on that sidewalk. Yeah. Have to drive. Goodness.
Oh man. I'm not going to fall on the sword on this. So, I'm going to defer to y'all's expertise. You can talk about it. I'm going on a glue rose. So, so if I got it, if I got it right, the school's asking for this, but the residents that live there want to be able to park on the street, so should they want to? So, they decided they have a need to. Is that what I'm interpreting correctly?
Yeah. There's not a lack of parking off street. there's a problem with them getting blocked into their driveway and so they park out on the street so they don't get blocked in. How many instances are we really talking about that that have occurred where someone was blocked in their driveway or a car was parked on the street that impeded the the flow of traffic for parent pickup? I have no idea how many times someone has been blocked in and can't get out. I know within the first week of school, a car got parked out there so he wouldn't get blocked in and the resource officers are having to go over there because it really gridlocks. They can't traffic cannot move. cuz you got now stacking up
and so that pulls them over there to try to deal with it and then you know it just turns into kind of a verbal. He's basically pleading with people, hey, can you please just move move the car? If we made a no parking zone, would the county SRO's even be able to enforce that? No, that have to be our Chief Martin. I mean, they they probably could, but I mean, typically, if an officer says, "Hey, you're parked in the no parking zone." Hey, I'm just making a statement. Why can't you just do it like from 2 to 4?
Yeah. Just do the pickup time. 2 in the morning also. And then halfway through the day on an early release or a holiday. Yeah. Well, I mean, you can
I don't know about that. Have we spoken to the tenants there? The owners? Um, the the officers have. I have not personally.
I don't know this thing is right. I don't know, man. I don't think this thing is right just yet. Oh gosh.
I'd feel more comfortable if we tabled it until we had conversation with the affected property residents. You know, I don't have an issue with with splitting the time zone like was being suggested. you know, whatever, 7:00 a.m. to 9 and and 2 to 4 or something like that. But that's not really going to solve the problem of the cars getting blocked in and then wanting to park on the street to prevent them from being blocked in. So I think we need to have some type of conversations with with the property owners that it's affected by stadium. I know the I know the officers have and those conversations didn't go well and they're not going to listen to them and definitely not going to listen to the city. The other concern is emergency vehicles anytime traffic is stacked up around the school.
That's what I was wondering if there there was alternative have to call street. Yeah, we need that's what we need for wider streets because that's what I was thinking of the residents and if they needed, you know, medical emergencies, which that that apartment complex is a lot of elderly people and you're right, it is now it doesn't there's not that same problem in front of intermediate there because there's no housing in front of that road and stadium coming from the high school. It's more take your life in your hands because the high school drivers, they're use the parent drivers. So,
they all have their little sign that say don't block driveway. Yeah. And people still do it, I'm sure. I don't know. It's a tough one. Is it It's just mainly one person, isn't it, Jim? Yeah, that's my understanding. It's one person who And is it every I didn't get the impression it's every day? No, I think it I think it depends on their schedule when when they're coming and going from from their residence.
The times I've been by, there haven't been any cars there. If they would back up in their driveway, then it would be a very simple out. You know, backing out is hard. I would I wouldn't be opposed to putting up signs that just say do not block driveway. I wouldn't have any opposed to street signs that say that. I just don't feel Well, we can definitely start there. That might be a good first step. Kind of put people on notice to not block driveways. Yeah. Can it look official? Yeah, we're on the side of like the one that's down the street.
Yeah, I know this item has basically no parking zone. Can we amend it? Amend it to uh if you need a motion, I'd love to motion to We have right now it's don't block and travel. already. So, all we need to do is put up the signage just to reinforce the order. Is that correct? I don't that doesn't even be something we need to vote on.
This is my part. Yeah. Thank you. We start there. Start there for that work.
Yep. We will start there. Action on. Item number 12. Move to item 13. discussion, consideration, possible action regarding addition of no parking zone fire lane Ruth Parker Lane near GRD Junior High campus.
Okay, so same phone makes Rude Parker Lane. I'm not sure if everybody's familiar with that. There's a existing parking lot. I guess when they have maybe probably tournaments and whatnot, this this parking lot will be full. This one will be full. And then people begin to park along pretty narrow street. I think it's like 16 ft wide or something. And they park along both sides of it to where I think there's three homes down here at the end. It's impassible. You can't you can't get in or out.
So, the proposal on this was a fire lane so that emergency vehicles can get in and out. And looking at the map, I can see it's a very narrow street. How how wide is that? You know, I want to say it's 16 ft. That big on this. I always use it to get out of the parking lot. M and then it's block that cuz that's usually the last place people park and I parked there used it to get out and then it's blocked.
All right. Any questions? Oh, I'm I make a motion to create a fire lane on Ruth Parker Lane from College Avenue to the last driveway on the south end of Ruth Parker Lane. Second.
All in favor? All against passes. Five. Item 14, discussion, consideration, possible action regarding resolution number 2025R15, changing the date of the November 2025 regular city council meeting. Our November city council meeting falls on Veterans Day and then city hall is closed. So a resolution to change it to that Monday the 10th.
Move adoption of resolution 2025R-15. I'll second. All in favor? 5 Z passes. Item 15, discussion, consideration, and possible action regarding resolution number 2025 R12 to amend the current personnel policies.
Bringing this back um to the council from the last meeting when we talked about it, I made the changes, but the harassment policy, that was the big one that was in question. I spoke with the lawyer who I worked with previously on this and it pretty much came down to it's your decision to what in what language you want to put into the policy.
Well, I'm going to stand on I think we need to include as it was written. I went home and asked my HR husband why pregnancy was in there and he said first the first thing out of his mouth was you would be surprised but the number one reason is because it's making women feel guilty for not coming back to work and whatever timeline the boss thinks they need to come back. And the big one though is the right to pump that. So that's why that's in there is because that's become a problem apparently. Um, and then I think the other things that we were saying are just kind of the hot items right now, which is gender identity is a form of sexual harassment. Um, what were some of the other ones that were in there? So
yes, now the the lawyer said, this is Lyn Law. uh she said that the EEOC may change this language with the new administration, but that hasn't come about yet. So, it's really, she said, it's really up to the five of you to make the decision on what you would like in the first call as that.
I just think when people think sexual harassment, they think about for the most part men harassing women or sexual reasons. I don't think that people as often think about making fun of, like I said, gender identity, um, name identity, and that is just bringing it to consciousness. So, that's just my opinion on that. So he said he recommended
he he recommended leaving it alone because it's better to have more that you can point to and say
you are violating this than it is to say well that is sexual harassment because you're pressuring this woman or whatever the case may be right or you're making fun of Philillip who wants to Yeah. Yeah. So that was his recommendation just to leave it and the lawyers put things in there because of things that would have happened before. That was his point. So okay. I I'm just going to state unequivocally there are two genders, male and female.
This stuff about including sexual harassment based on gender identity, but that's not what the law says.
Yeah, it is too. It is what the law says because as she said, the EEOC has changed that rule. New Trump administration, we may get a different administration in four years and it may be different. I I just feel like we need to protect all of our employees whether they are male female and this verbiage does that. I would just say that all types of sexual harassment are prohibited. Period. And that that clearly and unequivocally states that all types of sexual harassment are prohibited. Would you feel comfortable?
No. So, but I'm just one vote. So, if that's what y'all vote on, then but I will I mean I think the rest of the policy is fine. But I I feel like that in today's world we have got to protect everybody and saying I don't think everyone thinks of the first thing everybody did when they said pregnancy you were all all of us including me said why would we have that that brought it to consciousness and I just want to make sure we're protecting everybody that is employed with our city And most of the time I'm a less is more kind of person, but I just want to make sure that we're protecting them. So, I see what you're saying.
I mean, I I totally agree with your statement, but I just want to make sure that we're protecting
I think we should include the the lactation break. I mean, if we want to, you can go through them independ independently and say, you know, meal breaks, those are great. Rest breaks, those are great. I I I have no problem with the policy other than when it leans towards what has been characterized as a woke ideology. I think that's the opposite direction we should be going. And that's what I say. Did she mention when the proposed like the EOC might be changing?
They cannot make corum right now. So they're on this one. Not sure. When's the next meeting?
I mean, like like she was very upfront about, you know, it's this could change the federal regulations, all that can change with every administration. So, pretty much she landed on whatever all of you feel comfortable putting into policy. Would you feel more comfortable if it said something like all sexual harassment to include pregnancy are prohibited? Well, if it would make it better, but I don't think it's just about pregnancy. I think it's gender identity. I think there was a list of things. There was name of
well Curtly says sexual orientation, transgender status, and gender identity. And I don't I don't think those are are the direction we want to go. But if we have an employee that is is that in our handbook that you can't dress as a female if you're a male or male if you're a female. Is that in our I don't remember.
I think that would still fall under all sexual harassments are prohibited, but The other item that I I had a question on for council just since this is a pause break here uh was the orientation period. Currently, we show an orientation period of of employees of three months and then they can be extended for three months by their supervisor if the supervisor feels it's warranted. Um, I will say as a ex-public employee that's the shortest duration I've ever heard of and didn't know if anybody had any concerns about that time frame and whether or not they wanted to extend it to six and six or or if they had no concerns at all. Jim, as a supervisor, do you have any thoughts? Um,
I do have a question. If if we extend that time of probation period, does that affect benefits? No, you get benefits medical after 60 days. It would affect the only thing that would affect would be the 48 hours of vacation that you get after your um probationary period is over. Now, you could put that that in there that you get that 48 hours after a 90-day period. Um, and then but your probation is for six months. Um, but that that would be the only thing that would be affected.
I think it seems reasonable that a six-month probationary period is I I I don't know of many that are shorter than that. I'm good with extending section. I'm sorry. Uh 204. Was that all employees or directors only?
It's all employees. Y'all be comfortable with keeping the 48 hours of PTO at 90 days? [Music] [Music] Are we going on 611? I'm with the um I lost my place here. I'm with the the two genders. Lost my place all the way. Any action? Well, I make a motion to accept the want to make sure my name is right. Operations and procedure manual and Is it policies and procedures?
Personnel policy. Personnel policy as discussed with the amendment to section 2.04 to reflect six and six. And then uh as far as 6.11, the sexual harassment, all types of sexual harassment are prohibited. Period. And then pick up the sentence. Sexual harassment is defined as unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical conduct of a sexual nature. When point
so essentially excluding these named instances, the including portion. Yes. Well, excluding pregnancy, sexual orientation, transcluding harassment based on what I just it's 138. 139 13 looking at 6.1 6.1 6.11 138 138 it picks it up again
when it says harassment of any nature when based on race, religion, color, sex, sexual orientation, transgender status, pregnancy, national origin, age or disability, lactation of an infant, genetics, veteran status, citizenship, or any other characteristic protected by laws prohibited and will not be tolerated. I was just going to add that if we were going to do that, let's strike sexual orientation and transgender status. Leave the other named harassment of any nature when based on race, religion, color, sex, uh pregnancy, national origin, age or disability, lactation of an infant, genetics, veteran status, citizenship, or any other characteristic protected by law is prohibited and will not be tolerated. applies to all city employees, citizens, vendors, and other visitors to the workplace.
I will I will amend my motion to include those. It strikes sexual orientation and transgender status. I'll second the motion. All in favor? Oh, this one's hard. It is hard cuz you want to protect everybody. Well,
I mean, I know where I land morally. Morally is exactly where you land morally. We have a motion. Right thing to do might be two different things. All in favor? Three. All against I'm going to abstain. One extensions. One passes.
Did you get them all recorded? We'll move to budget workshop. discussion regarding a year 2020 526 budget. I have to give you a time for that.
Any questions on that? We added the line item for our department. George got questions. I know. No, no, not not not really. Not too much. I mean, there weren't any significant changes from
in the police part. We That was significant, right? By adding an additional person. Yes, that's from our previous discussion. Yes. And then we never did discuss the bridge. I don't think we discussed the bridge in a public I got one across the This wasn't included in your packet. This was something that PhD prepares
um a couple years ago actually. And so shortly after Troy departed, we met with an engineering firm. I I don't know if y'all remember the the fellow that was in the audience that that started talking about the engineering firm that he worked for. So, we we met with him uh the mayor and I met with him and two of his his guys that worked with him and it was eyeopening. They they predicted it would cost about 10 million and so it it scared us off and I reached back out to Chris Haye who had provided this opinion a couple years back and I wanted to find out if inflation or any any of that had affected his opinion. And so he was he was quick to reach back out to the bridge manufacturer that he had worked with in the past and they had a a team's meeting and and discussed it in more detail and and he says this opinion is still he's fairly confident this is still an accurate cost. And so he he told me about a bridge that they had worked on in in Granberry and I went and looked at it. He says it's in proportion to what we would need here. He said the same about the same length width same bridge manufacturing company. So I went and looked at it, but that's just an example of what
of what's out there. So there's that. Cool. Is that in here in the capital budget? Where's the capital? Where is the capital projects budget?
The very last page, I believe. So that one I guess before Troy left we had just kind of slid that same number over into the proposed budget.
Well, after relooking at that, that number was comprised of a bunch of projects that we've already completed. And so it didn't really make sense to leave that full amount in there. So I worked on that and that's why the numbers look a little different on the last version.
Oh, I see. So in the in the general fund capital, we had uh money budgeted for the lane building and for city council grant program which was 100,000.
That's where that number comes from. In the utility fund, we had um the remainder of the tank project cost and then I had budgeted money for replacement of the the lights on the water tower. That's just kind of an estimate. And uh I'm told that that that's going to be covered possibly by insurance. So,
well, on that the lights were already needing to be replaced anyway, and they were supposed to be coming out to replace them because of some faultiness. That was before the lightning strike. So, I guess my question, they actually replaced all of them just before the light. I think they just got them turned wrong. That's why it looked the way it was looking. They were angled down so it just look like spots. [Music] Different colors. But if you say they got to replace your forehead, I believe you. Those water tower lights being out saved me about eight hours a week.
Let's work on the Facebook page. [Music] So, we don't have anything in there for the Brian Street drainage study for No, that that study's been done for years. Okay. Well, I think
Oh, I'm thinking about the one in Golden Heights. Real Grand Ranger. Yeah. Yeah. No, we do not. Probably ought to consider that. Yeah, I have. And anything else we need to do to pull it off? I notic you you got it in there to include Mesa Drive. Yes.
Uh just confirming though that it's going to be completed after all the construction is done, right? Because I Well, obviously I don't want us to spend money reassphing and then concrete trucks come in there and just tear it up, right? Um they're pretty pretty well on their way. I I know that there there's uh just a few. I think most of the lots are towards the entrance. Um the ones that aren't being built out are right at the front. But yeah, they're I just don't want us to have a double expenditure replacement now and then turn around in a couple years
when they're finally done on that project, have to address it again. I know it's pretty torn up.
So, one other thing that that I was able to to gather um in the last couple weeks, we we had talked about the the meters, the water meters that were starting to the batteries are starting to go dead on. And so, we did an audit. We have about half of our meters have been replaced in the last couple of years. So we have 741 of the old style which 200 over 220 I think are already dead. And so the goal was to replace those immediately so we don't have to go out manually read those each month. But I went ahead and got a prize to replace 741 of them. And that's with the cellular read, which means you you don't have to drive by. They just are read from the computer. So the pizza could just click a button and have all the reads for those 741. and they're they're kind of pricey, but they're not really much more expensive than a drive by meter. And so I told him, just give me a price on the cellular. So for all 741, um that's 188,000. Um, and then I put in there to buy 200 new meter bases. So when you go out and replace this top, you want to make sure the bottom is still accurate. So sometimes they're not. In those in those
cases, we would replace the meter base as well. Those are $90 each. So I put in there for 200 of those. So the total the total number is the total number I put in there was 212,000. that also allows for u meters for new construction and you know anything coming up that doesn't already currently have a meter.
So are those cellular with a with a plan or are they RFID? Well, you pay you pay per month for each meter. That's how we do the drivebys. They're they're 6 cents a month per meter. And so the cellular the cost goes up per month, but to $1 per meter. So, but you probably would would save that money by not having
to go out and do rereads. And right now we we have a a program where we go out and we can hook the laptop to the meter, run a program, and tell you exactly how much water you've used down to the minute for a whole year. Well, pizza could do that from her computer without sending the guys out there. Be pretty efficient. Yep. And we have roughly 1,400 meters.
Roughly, 1500 meters total meters. LA last month, I think we we read 1472 active meters, you know, active accounts. And that takes three work days. Well, it should only take four hours, but we we do we drive the whole system, turn those in, and then once she figures out, okay, which ones didn't read,
she generates 250 work orders, then we go out and manually read those. Well, because they're dry by they may be overgrown with grass or so there sometimes you have to guilty you have to work at at uncovering them to to read them. So takes a little longer than just right to
I love that project. Quick question on um over here for the I'm back to the capital projects because I don't want to move away yet from the bridge but I see here you know it's capital projects from the general fund the current budget is 3.2 million um but it said our current budget remaining is 2.4. Is that what you were talking about? how you went through and you backed out additional expenses that had already been captured.
Yeah, because because the lane building was going to be 2.4. Now, I know we we've paid some rather large invoices out of this year's budget. So that I think what I budgeted and would we wouldn't spend all of that. We've already done a lot of that. So is is that what we're thinking might be able to cover the cost of the bridge? Well, I think what we were what Troy was was thinking um I hate to keep bringing his name up, but
it's recent. I think what we had done was we we saved a ton of money on the sidewalk projects on both both of those projects. And so he was he was thinking, man, with the money we saved, we we could tackle a big portion of that project. Mhm. And so he just slid that number over. I mean, I'm just just trying to, you know, get close to making it balance, right? You can do that if you just deficit spend out of out of reserves or whatever. And so, I
mean, you can can do that if you want, but our goal as staff is to try to to make this thing balance as best we can. Okay. And so I was just taking all that inflated stuff out of there. And then if y'all choose to to fund a project out of reserves and that's up to you. What's our reserve balance at? I think
financial report. Thank you. Oh yeah. and or Veronica under the parks general fund. You've got wages in there, but no, thank you for numbers. See, no numbers in there at all for benefits, workers comp, health, insurance, all that stuff. That's basically the 1045s. Okay,
I can go through and add in what you got show 65,000 for wages but just nothing else for any type of benefit I can gohead and add the numbers for what one employee $65 one just one right
one. More questions on the budget. I have a question. I have put in there in my budget either to get a used police car or to lease a new one over like a three or four or five year program. So, I just wanted y'all want y'all's thoughts on that. probably, you know, if we went with the used one, end up saving about 35 to 40,000.
Is that what you what you would prefer? Not really. Not not the used one because the amount of miles that you'd actually drive, it'd be easier to lease. Yeah. It's the miles or the the hours that they sit there and run. You might find one with not a lot of miles on it, but you don't you mean hour- wise you're gonna have a lot of time that they're sitting there running. Yeah. Yeah. But still might get a good one. So, I mean, don't matter. You can You said you could lease one. Is that
Yeah, there's American leasing company that that leases leasing program for law enforcement, the sheriff's department. They do it all the time. That's how I got their information to they do that. I think at least four or five which is the same uh thing like the fire department I showed you that three plan threeear lease it's the exact same company oh that's where the fire department got the quotes from the police department so it's same 5.9 some% on the interest rate if you lease it
I'm not against leasing a vehicle dependent upon the number of files that's included in, you know, agreement. If you're leasing one, that' be a brand new one. Yeah. Get it outed and prepared. I got you. You know, that that's be the only thing I'm thinking about. You know, I wouldn't have an objection either which way, but you know, obviously if you buy a thing that has low miles that other local departments, but you know, it's still worthy. It's it's outfitted versus if you lease one, you probably 6 months to a year at least to get it probably outfitted and everything else and be in service.
I still have to most of them are not outfitted. They're stripped down. They're the uh the decals are taken off the lights. You're just getting the vehicle. Most of them you're still putting the cameras, uh putting in your own equipment, cages, stuff like that. Most ones that I've found, they're not. They're stripped. I'm just not a proponent of leases. When we had the cash in reserves, why pay 5.9% for a lease if you have the cash to do it?
The only thing that I was thinking is that with the lease, you're essentially going to be getting a new top-of-the-line vehicle every 3 years as opposed to holding on to one for 10 years. And so, I mean, that's kind of on the ground. Do Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wait. Sorry. I said 10. I meant to say 16. That's two decades. I'll keep drawing it. I don't care. That's That's thing.
But just whatever yall want. I'd rather purchase if we're going to do something so that we're not saving a little money, I guess, without having to pay that interest rate. Well, that's just me. As long as it's got good leg room in the back, comfortable seat.
You want to cut the whole brea only [Laughter] joke.
Well, we have one more. Is this the last? This is the last. This the last one. Oh, wow. How so? How much is it to purchase a new one or a slightly used one? And you get one from 10 to 20,000 for for a use for a decent one. What was the cash pay for a brand new one? Pay 53 for that one that's getting ready right now. And it's about 30,000 for the equipment. and then to install it another 10 or 20.
What's the life on one of those on a on a new Chevy? Mhm. I mean, driving it here in Glen Rose. I mean, I've got my 09. I've got 84,000 mile on it because four square miles and I'm I'm just one one officer driving it. So, last they seem to last a little bit longer in in Yeah, I recommend we just buy one. I don't know how cheap is with his rules and I think they could extend it out. Maybe we wouldn't have to purchase another one until 2040 or so.
Oh gosh. It's fine. Just make an out purchase and equip like we just did on the other one. I think so too. That's the only question I had.
Thank you. Thank you. Anybody else on the budget? Um, okay. So, I mean, we've gone over the budget line by line and everybody's done a great job explaining per department uh what each amount is for. And so, but then I always come back to these large swats in our capital projects. Do we need to set that budget before we approve the budget? Do we need to outline projected projects like I mean or what we're thinking? Is that where we do that here? Yes, you want to.
Jim, did you say you already put that in the budget for those meters or you had not? Well, I was I I put um 88,000 in there to replace the 200. Um, and then I think I think uh council member Bruning brought up if we have more that are that are aging, why don't we look at at a total replacement? And so that's what that number was. It hasn't been put in there yet. I just wanted to bring it to y'all. If you want to add that, we can. Is obviously that they keep going out on you, right? Yeah,
going out replacements and so on lifespan, but they're going out a little earlier than that. And those summer maybe under warranty, you need a replacement to be able to to give it to them so you can take the other one off and see if ship back for warranty.
Right. They're they're manufactured in in Milwaukee. And so the sales rep to tell me, you know, by the time you ship that thing up there and then they check it out and then rebate your money. So it's it's almost worth noting with because you're shipping them all up there. There's you're not getting anything back by the time they are shipping. So his recommendation is just um throw them in the trash basically. So this is something we have to go through every 5 years.
No, they're they're 20 year battery life. These meters are probably 15 to 17 years old. Some of them the way I understood it sometimes in transit the the battery it activates itself when it's when it's in transit. And so you may have a meter that's been in a warehouse for a while. You're getting it. You don't know that the battery's already been activated. And so that's the discrepancy on the 20 years. You should put a piece of plastic in there that you pull out.
Like those little little cheap flashlights. Just simple. Simple. Maybe it's a big piece of plastic. Oh, I'm not upset with you about that, Mr. J. I'm just saying and I do think we need to, you know, think about the Golden Heights project and if that's going to something that we want to study and try to move forward on and that's that's a real problem have one way in and one way out.
I think that's a uh something we need to get to working on. I thought you were referring to sewer water runoff. I realize you're referring to Well, se water runoff as well because the you know it the the drainage comes right down that street, you know, down that ditch behind the properties and a Yeah. I mean, it's it's all kind of part and parcel together.
I can um I can work with with Chris Haye on that and try to come up with, you know, it's it's not likely. You could say we're going to we're going to fund this project. It's not likely that it would happen within the next year, but we could figure out a game plan and go, okay, we could start design and surveying and that kind of stuff, and this is what it would cost. and and just budget that much money to kind of get going on it. And if there's property acquisition, we need to know that, too.
Yeah. You know, there might be, you know, who knows? GLO might scrape up some more money and and be able to open up a a notice of funding for a grant. I mean, who knows? cost share. There's opportunities maybe, but without a plan, we don't we can't get even started.
So, for this upcoming year, um it be water meters, the Golden Heights project, and then I saw in here the Brian Street drainage study. No. Did you say we got that done already? I think that line item needs to be deleted because it's like that was done years ago and we just we we don't ever put any money in there but that line item has stayed. So this year what what we have
I I don't know why we started putting all that money in one capital fund and funding of multiple projects out of one line item. So I put them I built them back into each separate budget. So sewer we have a a lift station that I would like to add a skater system to. Okay. That's kind of a a capital project streets. We had a Mesa Drive. Um but you put those back into the individual budget. Yeah. So you'll see a capital improvements.
Okay. line item in each in each category. And that's that's where you'll see those bigger projects. Okay. Okay. Water meters list station Mesa Drive. Um the dog park. I loved her idea. Miss Dallas McKe in the dog park. Is there any interest in exploring that at one of the parks? I like the idea. I would prefer it probably to be in one of the existing parks, you know. Yeah. Heck,
even if we can run and use that park, you know. Oh, the one right here. Yeah. I mean, that bring people down to the square at the same time. And it's got a lot of good shade, too. Another another area that comes to mind is when we talked about buying property from the dodens to punch that road through at Golden Heights. It it left quite a bit of space over behind the bank there. And we had talked about some sort of little park there. That'd be a nice little pocket park. I think so, too.
Yeah. Hey, something that came to me from citizens was a request in Heritage Park to have something small like a dog park for those people who live around that area and like to walk the trail with their dog and if they come into an enclosed space and take them off the leash and have some time. So, I mean, I'm not opposed to it. I just like to, you know, get an idea of what it might cost. There's some places in Heritage Park that there's already fencing up on two sides, right?
You know, like the when you're walk the cabin when you first come in, there's a fence going this way and a fence going all by those cabins there's a fence. Now, some of them might have to be worked on a little bit, but there's fencing all the way around that area. Um, and it wouldn't impede being able to go and look at the cabins either. So now they're not quite as shady on that side. The shade is more on the left side, but the oak weld is still coming at that park. So it's going to take care of everything.
Yeah, makes me sad. We treated we treated about I don't remember the exact number, but probably 35 of those trees. Oh, at the heritage. Yeah. All the ones near the side that was mos. In fact, it was about six months ago, right? Yeah. You can see they they've kind of grown out, but I mean, they're not going to make it. They It's just a band-aid on a problem. The worst one is the one going up the step steps. Damn, that one is really bad. Yeah. Did that one get treated? Probably not. It was probably
Well, there was a different problem with that one. It was It had a deck around built around it and with no room for the tree to grow and by the time we noticed it, it had already pushed the bark away from the tree and damaged it. We tore all the the decking out, but I don't know if it'll survive. So what uh the other one I have listed here of course is the pedestrian bridge. What's required for the next step on the pedestrian bridge and moving that project forward?
Um it would just be I think selecting an engineer, you know, professional services and then and entering into a contract on it. Okay. I wait till we go to TML where we walk around the convention center with all those different vendors. I'm sure you'll find probably a good half a dozen that are that are there that do that project and can get some ideas. Mundo who's doing our other survey, you know, they like to kind of specialize in this area. Maybe they might have some insight and Oh, yeah.
things they could do for us. So do you just reach out to them like to Mundo and all about that's
that's the direction you want to go. What would they do for us? one, they could they could help try to kind of manage it, but more importantly, they could maybe help us if there were a grant available or a cost match for something like that. Again, where you where you've got a park that, you know, we we we're in a in on a grant for the Texas Parks and Wildlife and that cycle. Maybe we can get ready for the next cycle next year at this park with the same type of grant, you know, a cost match. We're not we're not concerned about it ever changing a use from a park, dedicated park, then why not try to seek a grant in the next funding cycle or or uh what's his name? Um, okay. There you go.
But so who would do the survey to see the feasibility of Well, if EHT likes these numbers and they kind of stand by it and they're kind of in the ballpark and we think that's a good base to work from, then we can move forward. Then you move forward with that. This estimated 200 feet. I thought I thought it was 220. So my wrong or I guess the only reason I'm asking is because that's going to change the figure here. Thank God.
Yeah. I'm I'm not real sure what the if there's a criteria for pedestrian bridge versus traffic rated bridge if it has to be further out of the thing. I'm I'm not sure. H
I thought that quote you rolled out earlier that we made everybody's jaw drop. I thought that person said 220 ft. That's what that's what came to my mind. Yeah, they they said um that the bridge would need to be a minimum of 150 ft in length to keep from building uh anything within the flood here in the floodway in the floodway. And so that that was the key thing they were looking at, but I'm not sure where they came up with.
And I'm I'm personally I I would like to see something that matches an older style. I'm not in I I mean the bridge at the bridge at uh uh not Marble Falls, but u Lamp Passes, is it? Or wherever it is. I mean, that's a nice bridge, but it's a contemporary bridge. It's like something that looks classy. I found I found a bridge near Haiko, but it's not very long. And that one's up for adoption. It's even better better price.
Add some wings on it. Kind of flare it. Yeah, you you'd have to I think it was 69 ft long. Oh, find two of So, essentially be building two more bridges.
These are just ideas. A bridge up for adoption. Like we don't want it anymore, so come get it. Is that kind of how that works? It's a text bridge that's being uh replaced. And so because it's old and historic, they like to try to find uh entities that can use it, repurpose it for pedestrian use. And our old historic bridge that was talked about is not usable, right? I don't know. I just know that there was some talk about one of the old bridges here. The one that everybody gets their pictures taken for graduation. What's that bridge there? Johnson County.
Oh, it's not here. That's at Brazes Point at Braz but there's the one at the reservoir the old bridge at the reserv one that used to be near and then there's there's one across Squawk Creek that could be available maybe right there from Dodson's to or from uh Miller's to whatchamacallit right I I thought that they were uh they were looked at but it has determined that it's cheaper to purchase one than to try and rehab those.
Yeah, I think I think so. But the ones that are being rehabbed usually are the ones that qualify for grants because they're historic and so how Okay. Okay. But they're also usually too short. So yeah. Okay. Well, very good. Anything else with the budget?
Okay. Thanks for all the work you did. Yeah. Thank you. We'll move to consent agenda. All consent agenda items are considered routine by city council and will be enacted by one motion. There will be no separate discussion on these items unless council members request an item be removed and considered separately.
I make motion to approve consent agenda as presented. Second by Brun. All in favor zero. passes. Staff reports, public uh works director report. So, um I just kind of combined everything I had on one one report. Um, so I wanted to just give you a quick update on a couple of the the projects. Um, the street project, the CDBG grant project up in in uh Third Street, Webster and Clay. So they they mobilized finally this week. So they started yesterday on Third Street. So that that street project is underway. Um and then the sidewalk project down here is nearing substantial completion. They're cleaning up. But I've gotten some some push back from some of the homeowners, property owners that that didn't get a concrete drive approach. Some of them did not have concrete. And so the the plan just showed a a sidewalk crossing your driveway and they're they're now upset by the way it looks. They think that all of them should have concrete driveway approaches and so um
because they worked with us and gave us easements. I'm just trying to see what that might cost. So I've got the engineer looking to for measurements and and to give us a change order and just to explore what that might cost. How many of them are there? There are four properties that that have kind of dirt or gravel kind of from the the edge of the pavement to the new sidewalk. Okay.
The other issue with that is it will constantly be dirty every time it rains. That stuff's going to wash over the top of the sidewalk. So, it won't won't look nice and it won't always be pleasant to walk through the mud. So, I'm just exploring what that's going to cause. Um, so this week I've been busy with interviews. We Veronica and I conducted I think four interviews for potential building officials. Um, and we we've got some good candidates. We're just not real sure how to move forward yet. Um, then I I've done Santos and I have done like four interviews for public works as well. So, I'm trying to fill all of those positions. Um, I met with Veritoss to kind of discuss what services they provide to help us through the period of time that we don't have a building official. So, they can assist with plan review, inspections, building official duty um as needed basis. Um I met with the water district. I got a notification from Prairie Lands, the Groundwater Conservation District, notifying that if we're on pace to use our a loted amount of water for the year. And so I wanted to meet with Kevin
to find out where they're at in construction are correcting their quality water quality issues that they have. And so I think we're in in a good position to um start taking water like later in the fall to not exceed our permitted amount of water. I think there's fines involved with that. So I don't want to get fines. Um, and then I think that's about about everything that I want to add. Going back to the sidewalks. So, I kind of got two two mixed vibes on something. So, I just wanted some clarification. Reference the crosswalks going across Bernard at Gaither and Shepard. So at one point it was text dots done and then it was well no they're they're redesigning or rethinking how they're going to do it or something like that. So what's what's the what's correct and then what is our repercussions to resolve the problems because obviously I think it's near and dear to council's heart to make sure that there are some good crosswalks across the street so the kids are seen visible and we don't have any injuries that occur.
Right. So I think there's two two different two different issues. So, one is on the safe route to school sidewalk project, which is the one text dot was was kind of overseeing along the highway and then through town. When they got to the intersection where we have the big gigantic power pole right inside the the sidewalk, when they got all the way through their project, well, that's kind of where they ended. And When they got to that point, text dot instructed the contractor to just hold off. So they wanted they want to redesign that that ramp. And so the contractor pulled out and they're gone. And we're waiting on text to redesign that, re-engineer that. It had in the plans it showed one of those curbs that that come out from the existing curb. Okay. And so I think that was their hang up. So the other issue is we we met with text months ago and they they had said that they were looking to design crosswalk improvements downtown. And I think we mentioned the two on Northeast Bernard
today when you redo these. We want y'all to look at these as well. And they agreed verbally along with the possibility of a of a traffic light right
at Bernard. And so, I don't know, maybe two weeks ago, they they emailed and said they they've looked at all that, done analysis, and and they're not doing anything with any of it. And so since then I reached back out to him and said, "Hey, you know, is there some way we could move forward with with improvements to the crosswalks with striping, you know, signage, lights, and you know, if it's a funding issue, then then my proposal is you design it and then maybe the city funds it, but just to kind of get the dialogue going and so I haven't heard back yet, but that is something that I sent back out. So,
was that just to the local level? No, I think there were several people copied on that. Obviously, I think that's near and dear to our heart. So yeah, obviously would love to see that project completed and done and wrapped up to include those light illuminations and the crosswalks and so on. I mean I think we could get our own engineer involved. Yeah. To design that if we were I mean textile likely take forever to design it. I'm just
I still wanted to see if they let us in the game. Let us sitting. Yeah. I just hate having to wait for text dot to determine a safe zone for our kids. We don't It's been How long it's going to take for high school? I mean, can we just do it? Like, you know how you do it and then ask for forgiveness? I I you know asking for permission is taking years.
We can definitely have an engineer design it and then just move forward with trying to get it permitted. So you would get a permit through text to do the work, but you're leaving them out of the design phase. Okay. So you use their you would use all their design standards but do it independently. Okay. Yeah, I like that. Thank you for bringing that up. Anything else for public works? Thank you, John.
Police chief report. I don't have anything to add schools on the first base. Yeah, they did the footing. So they started on anyway the first one. Yeah. I saw was about that area for a lot of schools on it there. He said something.
Does that also mean they're moving forward with the reducing the speed as well or is it only doing only school only school zone only the flash? Yeah, the flash zone. I think we've approached them to reduce from 45 to 40. I think all we were looking at so far was the school zone. Yeah, the school zones.
Yeah, they'll they'll um they'll request that the city adopt a new ordinance for that for the specified zone and there will be speed related to that ordinance. But I mean, it's it's not just a it's not just a sign with a beacon light on it. It's it's a full mass that comes out over the highway. I mean, the peers were 13 ft deep. Wow. 4 foot in diame. I mean, they're big. Wonderful.
So, they're nowhere near done, but but will be coming back to present an ordinance and that's going to be based on car recommendation of the speed. No, I think it's based on their study that they did the 2001 study or a recent study recent two years ago. Okay. Which they haven't moved on. Yeah. really slow. Anybody have anything else for chief? Thank you, Chief. Uh, building and planning department. So, we don't have nothing there.
Code enforcement. Nothing there. CVB report
tonight. Hello. Hello. Uh so I'm talking today in lie of text toler he is in Nashville at the moment. So uh it is my pleasure to be here. Uh you I think you guys have our list of projects that that we've been working on. Uh so and I know you can read I don't know if you have any questions on that but I did forget to put something on there. Uh, and that is, and I can go over uh just a couple of highlights like we just got back from the uh Oh, do you know what a list of projects? It was an email. It was just a separate email from Monday.
Oh, okay. Yes, that's my fault. Yes. Let me pull it real quick. Uh, so we we just uh Well, here, how about this? I'll give you some highlights. Okay.
Okay. So thing number one, we uh returned Friday uh from spending three days in Fort Worth at the TACVB uh which was amazing. Great contacts, excellent information, lovely resources. I learned so much was amazing. Um so that was great. Uh there is another one in the winter in Bernie and I'm I'm all in on that. I want to go to that one. Uh so other things though, we've been working on uh creating a new website and and really updating uh our event calendar uh that is on our current website and that's been uh well received from uh the hospitality industry workers. Uh we've been working in social media just trying to we've been collaborating with a couple of independent contractors if you will with uh content creation. So they've been helping us since we're uh spread a little thin these days uh in CVB. Um one of my most favorite things that we're doing is we're moving to the old bank building. And yes, in fact all of my things are moved. I'm over I am over there. Uh so I'm excited about that. Uh I've been talking with the judge Chambers about with Pearl and so as soon as we get a few more things situated over there then she's uh prepared to move over there. Uh I mean it may be I'm not really sure that it's we're we're going to have this in three phases. So once we kind of get the welcome lobby situated and we get some more rack cards and get uh then so I I
still think it might be a couple of months. Uh all right. So oh the something that's not on the report uh is the Discovery Channel has been here uh they were at uh Bernard's Mill uh yesterday and then today uh they had some stops. Tomorrow they'll be at the courthouse filming in the courtroom uh with Martin Brown who wrote The Moonshine Raid. Uh and then on Friday, drum roll please, they're going to do a Moonshine Raid uh reenactment. Mill on Thursday.
Back at the mill on Thursday. Okay. I was unaware of that. So that's cool. That's very cool. Uh we have some hospitality workshops at the end of this month and then at the end of this week on Saturday and Sunday uh Chuck with Bull Lion Ranch and Vineyard uh let us use a booth for free at no cost to us. Uh so Tex and I will be uh there and uh making great contacts hopefully uh for future festivals, funneling people to Glen Rose, getting people excited about our destination. Uh and then another thing that I'm personally excited about was uh number eight, uh I met someone with a company called Ban Wango and uh they it's it's not an app. It's it's more of a a QR code that you uh allow tourists to scan and then you can uh well my most excited part is you can gify all the dinosaurs that we have. So we have the 88 dinosaurs in our town so we can kind of make that more of a game or a passport situation. So that's that's kind of cool. But then it also has the capability to uh have different trails like we can have a food trail, we can have a a nightlife trail. So uh it's it's going to make it easier for tourists to to use that. Uh and then uh we talked with Fossil Rim uh yesterday at a meeting and they were willing to potentially share in some of the cost for that. I've got a meeting with the chamber. So, we're we're we're kind of looking at sharing the expense as a community so that we can we can offer this tool to our tourists. So, I thought that this is going to be this is going to be a cool thing. And it's it's also just different promotional things. I
mean, all of our downtown merchants can use that for a fall open weekend. So, at a national park when you have that young rangers Yeah. program. Oh, yes. fun. Yes. You could do like a whole theme on dinosaurs and Yes. So, I mean the I mean you can just the the create however creative you want to be uh is is your limitation. So, it's it's exciting. All right. Thank you.
Oh, quick question. I saw here on social media that you said y'all are doing Facebook and Instagram. Would y'all ever do Tik Tok? Oh, I would absolutely. I would absolutely do Tik Tok. Uh, so so we're formulating that. And uh I I think the So I'm justing really Oh, are you a challenge? Don't do that. Because I will challenge executive. No, I I I just need a green light.
All right. So, that's ah Okay. So, um I I didn't cover that. Um so, we we obviously are not having the wine and arts festival. So, we're trying to make a little chicken salad out of chicken mess. And so what um so what I we're we already have a Longhorn the ITLA is having a championship show. So uh we're we've been meeting with them about uh doing a cattle drive now this we think we can do that on Wednesday. We're talking with Larry Smith. Oh, not only would that be so fun, but Larry Smith Jr., right? Larry Smith Jr. Not here.
You're not here. No, I was going to say Oh. Oh. Uh, so uh the Longhorn is going uh through and then we're I'm I'm still working out the details. We're going to try to keep them in town until Saturday and uh and then maybe have some photo ops and I've been told that there's a couple that someone could you can get on top of it and Oh, wow. have photo op that way. So far, we're working through those details. I am hoping that it all works out. I'm just some parade that are being ridden.
So, yeah. And see, we're going to have the entire uh ITLA community here. I mean, that's over 300 people. Um, and of course, that very same weekend, Sat on Saturday, Asleep at the wheel will be here. Uh, so that's that's kind of cool. It's going to be a really fun weekend. And and so I I think we're we're gonna we're gonna have some fun Longhorn things to do. So home football game, too. It's a home football game. Texas OU.
Oh, right. Uh that's what one of the merchants told me. Uh she wants to have uh the game in the Palace Theater. So the weekend before that, October 4th, is uh we're having the Oatsmobile car show. And uh all day that day, we're going to have the Palace Theater open and watching car shows just to kind of go along with that. Just a free event for the community. Uh and so I thought, well, while we have all the chairs and the projection projector and everything set up, let's go ahead and uh keep that. So after the cattle drive on Wednesday, we're going to have a western playing. I I don't know how many people will go, but it will be, you know, hopefully a fun event. Uh, and so then we're gonna we're gonna
we could scream real maybe have that have that UT game playing on the Saturday, right? So yeah, that'd be awesome. Uh, so these are all things to to look forward to. Thank you. You're welcome. Secretary report. We had some anniversaries this month, one year anniversary of Joe McFarland, the municipal court clerk, and Marissa Raina, the animal control. So, we celebrated them. Um, of course, our departure this month will be Allison, our building official. Her last day is Thursday.
Yes. This year, yes. Uh, and then we have a birthday this month. Colby Charles birthday is Friday. Right. Right. Give him a shout if you see him out. He won't be here. Never mind. Don't give him a shout. I forgot somewhere. That's right. Apparently, he needs a birthday week. Did we pass that law or that ordinance that said every employee would get their birthday on We have a birthday floating holiday. Yes. Right. Okay. I don't know if he's using that or not, but he is.
He's good. And then really nothing else. We've just been doing a lot of training and Lupita is going to training next week for some records management. Um, which I'm going to cycle my whole crew through that record. Thank you. Jim, you want another report or you already got yours up? I kind of lumped it all together. All right, council members, you have any reports?
Next week, next week, week after next, is the u uh the Texas 21 agenda meetings going to be held in Stevenville September 18, Thursday, and Friday the 19th. Uh they look like they've got a great uh great agenda. I don't know that I'm going to be able to go, but I will forward y'all the information about the registration. Quick, easy drive. You know, they they normally, it says they start at 2 o'clock on uh Thursday with a tour of the campus at Charlton and then u um Friday will be meetings with a Firefly Aerospace. And if you don't know, Firefly Aerospace is the company that just landed um about three months ago, landed on the far side of the moon with a private um the first private company to land on the moon. Lots of them circled and flown around, but this one actually landed and didn't fall over. There was there was another one that landed and fell over, but this one actually landed and conducting experiments. So, that's going to be cool. a Texas company. You know, space is huge in in space exploration is huge in Texas and they're going to have Firefly Aerospace there. So, it's going to be pretty awesome. And just so you know, there's a great article in National Geographic about Firefly Aerospace. So, it's very timely.
Have you heard about a a public hearing they're going to do for the Bitcoin mine over in Granberry? I have not heard about it yet. I know there was a contested hearing. Has there been a date? I don't nothing I'm aware of. Also trying to incorporate I think into a city. I I want them to do that. And text 21. I'll be going to it. So if anybody wants to go and has those days off, wants to commute, let me know. Anybody else?
Yeah, this Thursday. is 911 and at the Republican meeting at Roosters at 5:30. It's basically uh oh god, I forgot what they call it. Lunch with ants or something like that. Lunch with no ants. But with no ants.
So they'll have hamburgers, hot dogs type of stuff for anybody and everybody. But uh we're going with that since it's 911. They'll also be taking the time to honor um our police department, the sheriff's department, and the fire department. So if anybody is able to go and wants to go, see you at Roosters at 5:30. Anybody else? We're going to full uh 27 and 28. So what?
Yeah. Never got nothing back and stand's not available. So, there's no more business for the city of Punrose. I adjourn this meeting at 8:37.
Sorry guys, the best I can do. It shows the whole thing. Yeah. I finally got into it.
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