City Council - Regular Meeting

Tuesday, March 10, 2026
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About this meeting

Government Body
City Council
Meeting Type
City Council
Location
Glen Rose, TX
Meeting Date
March 10, 2026

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187 sections (from 735 segments)

5:30 – 6:510

F A S O N It's a blessing. I got you. Go ahead.

6:48 – 7:250

You got one minute. Cheyenne, that gamble means be quiet. Kids especially. All the children. They're not going to come back.

7:26 – 8:090

We brought in extra security tonight. I'd like to call the regular city council meeting to order on Tuesday, March 10th, 2026 at 5:30 p.m. If you would you stand and join for an invocation, please. Heavenly Father, we thank you for this day and we look forward to the reign, Lord, and the safety within it. Lord, we thank you for this council that they make decisions and guide this city in a way that is appropriate for the members of this council and the citizens of this county and city. We thank you Lord for the guidance. We ask that you be with us and protect us in all we do. Pray this in Jesus name. Amen. Amen.

8:07 – 8:510

Say the pledge of allegiance to the United States of America. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Pledge to the Texas flag. Texas flag. I aliance to the Texas. One state one and indivisible. Thank you. Roll call for council members. Council member Schultz. Council member Mes. Mayor Pro. Tim man present. Council member Freeze present. Council member Brennan

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here. We have a quorum.

8:55 – 9:550

Each person who addresses the city council tonight comes to the um to the podium, please give your name and your address for the record. We also ask that all the comments during the public uh meeting and agenda items for public hearings be given consideration to be limited to three minutes per person. your time can't be given to another person. We also ask that you only be allowed to speak once during the meeting. And at this time, if you'll silence your phones, we'll do the same. We ask that if you'll listen to the council, we'll return that to all your comments that you have tonight as well. Thank you for coming, especially you young folks. We have some uh honors to give out tonight. Thank to uh one of our educational professionals, Miss Mates, who did a great job. We're excited about that. Um, we're going to start with this our announcements and presentation section and recognize some of you folks.

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Hey, that's me. That is you.

9:57 – 10:550

So, um, what we did, just so everybody kind of knows, we had put out there that we would lot wanted dinosaur designs for our dinosaur that the city has purchased. And so, we put it out to the whole community. And then of course we kind of targeted our students and I will say ladies that won the design I had hundreds um several of the art classes it was a requirement that they had to do it to get a grade and so it was it was tough wasn't it council deciding um we narrowed it down I narrowed it down to 29 different designs and then the council voted and and many of our city workers voted. And so our design um here's one side of our design and then if you'll show the other side

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that's not that's not one.

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Hold on. I have to go down four screens. There we go. And there's the other side. So, so we'll we'll give out the design and then we'll declare the name. And so, if I can have Bellamy Jagger and Brinley Templeton, they are designed. Come on up, ladies. And let's give them a round of applause. So, thank you guys very much for your inspiration. I assume that one of you did one side and one did the other or did y'all collaborate?

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Okay. And what grades are you passing in? I'm a freshman. Okay. And I'm a Okay. Well, great job. And we will be visiting with you guys in know about how we're going to paint it all. Okay. And then we also had a naming contest. So, we wanted to name our dinosaur something special. And our plan is is our dinosaur is going to have something around the neck, you know, a necklace or something that will have a tick tock. What? A big old clock. There you go. A tick tock. And so

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the name that we voted on, it was the same thing. Imagine we had lots and lots of great names that were suggested and three people ended up giving us the same name and that was one of the finalists. And then once again, we all voted and we came up with Glennosaurus. And so the name of our dinosaur, Glenosaurus. And the ones who came up with that name are Valeria Hernandez. Come on up.

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And what grade in every first grade? Everybody can see behind you. I can't see you.

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All right, got it. Hold on. Be like right dead center. have some more moms to take. Right there. One more. One more. Okay. There we go. One more.

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I would like to point out that three of these ladies are former students of mine. And so that was so exciting to see that. So thank you everybody. So you think you had an impact on Well, you know, my artistic ability has transferred into these young people and I'm sure they got it all. Hey, hey, hey. Thank you. Thank you for it. We'll have another ceremony. I have a ribbon cutting.

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Anybody else want to leave?

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You go sit out on Cyclone Street. Why don't you do that? All right. Where are we? We're going to move item and individual items for consideration. We have a an accounting firm that we just finalized our financials with and he has other things to do. So, we're going to uh bring him on board before we start with the public hearing. Um, are you going to call him or Oh, hey, Mr.

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Here I am. Uh, council, I'm gonna open it up for any questions you may have. Um, I have one, but I'll let y'all start if you have anything. Yeah, you I mean, I'm happy to I can go through the part that I was going to go through and then Yeah, why don't you do that? We're going right ahead.

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Okay. All right. So, um we have a um a letter that um has been mailed uh to you um that has um findings man and audit matters things like that and attached to it are the audit adjustments. So that will be coming and once those um once the adjustments are made then um the general ledger and this reound report or the the final report will match up. So um that that's that has been mailed and will be there um soon. in in the actual main report. The probably the most important part um is on the front of the report is we put our called the independent auditor's report on page one and that's our our letterhead. Um and it it is uh the second paragraph is the opinion paragraph where we uh put our opinion on the front of your report saying that u you know in our opinion these financial statements represent fairly um the situation with the city the both the financial position and the um the uh activity for the year. So the that second paragraph is a clean audit opinion, unmodified audit opinion, which is the best you can get u from your auditors, which is good and and is likely to be if somebody outside the city were looking at at your annual financial report, the first thing that they would want to know is did you have a clean audit? And so that's you did. So that's good. And then back a little bit

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further in the report on page nine is um a statement of net position and that's laid out with assets at the top current and non-current liabilities towards the bottom current and non-current and then net position and there's some deferred inflows and outflows that have to do with TMRS um in there also. But um the main thing that we look at when we look at net position is we're looking at at this point in time September 30th, 2025, we're looking at do you have enough cash and things that turn into cash easily like short-term investments and receivables to cover the current liabilities that you have. So that would be payables and acrruels and any notes or debt um current debt payments. So that would be debt payments that are due within the year. So um if you look on the total current assets on the right hand column is the total column you have 13 million 989955. So just under 14 million. Look down in the liabilities the top section of the liabilities far left column total current liabilities 882 063. So our our comfort uh level is high once your ratio is 3:1 or better. Yours obviously just about almost 14 million to a little under 1 million is 15 to one or more than 15 to1. So very very good uh financial position and um and that is

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a testament to to um working hard to um reduce liabilities and and keep your your assets in good shape. So that's great and from our standpoint um a a key point of this report. Um and then the next item that I wanted to cover is page 11. Um the first column is the general fund and um the the um second to bottom number is your um fund balance and and your ending your fund balance ended at 9 million 471085. So, um, and the reason I, uh, point that out is that that number, um, is likely to be a number, you know, 9 and a half million, uh, number that you looked at when you were doing your budgeting and your amendments to your budget and your budget to actual throughout the, you know, there's a lot of work that you all have done on the general fund throughout the year. And um so your budgeted number was just over 9.5 million was 95. Uh if you look back on page 35 you can see a budget to actual comparison but if you don't want to look there it's fine. The the final amended budget had your ending at 9,576981. So, um 105 just a little under 106,000 um um less than where you were budgeted. Um the um and and your your um your sales tax and gross receipt tax

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were lower than where you thought they were going to be and end up a little bit. And so that that was really I think the tipping the item that tipped the scales. Um you did have some overages in your expenditures. Those were I believe all of them were related to um projects that were going on that had some uh acrruel acrruels involved that um were part of the audit adjustments. So at um right before 9:30 when the final amended amendments were made to the budget, there were some um items related to construction, sidewalks, different things that had um you hadn't gotten um the information to be able to make uh the adjustments to the budget. So, but by the time we were there to actually do the audit, that information was available and there was some work that was done um prior to 9:30 that wasn't given to you to pay until after 9:30. And so, some of those items ended up going into the budget causing the budget to go the expenditures to go over. the the reason that we we don't have um any significant problem with the overages uh are for one your revenues were also over budget. So that's part of it. You have uh every expenditure that you have and every project that you have was authorized and approved through the

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council. So every single uh expenditure significant one and every uh project was approved. So these overages are strictly timing issues and so um and then the and then in addition to that you had plenty of funds to pay for everything. So you there were no there were no cash flow issues. There were no authorization issues. There were no u and there was no confusion as to the the actual expenditure itself. It was merely a timing of when it was recorded um in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles. And so um so even though it's an overage, it's not a it's not a significant significant finding from from our standpoint. So, um, and then the last thing I was going to cover is is, um, back on page 39 and and that part of the report is our, uh, internal control portion of the report. that when we look at internal controls, we're looking at um predominantly controls over um dispersements. And so we're looking to make sure that things are authorized properly. Um checks are signed properly. Um payments are made out to the correct vendor for the correct amount and that they're paid in a timely manner. Um and then for payroll we do a sample we do some sample testing of payroll and in there we're looking for um make sure that employees have their personnel files for the employees first

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of all and then that they're complete and then um that the gross pay is supported by something you know in the personnel file and the net pay is calculated correctly and that the net pay is actually what was paid. So, um, and we look at all of your, uh, capital expenditures, quite a fair amount of those, um, and all your debt, uh, expenditures, and a sample sample of everything else. And so in all of that, all the authorizations um were good, all the payroll stuff was good, all of the um vendor issues and things that we looked at were all good. Um and so the only the only findings that we have for the year are um relate to almost exclusively relate to um the timing of payments. And so the uh uh basically acrruels um much of the much of the u the much of the recording of the expenditures is is on a cash basis. Um and in order to uh move from cash basis or some of those things to c from cash basis to acrruel for the report, we had to uh we had some adjustments. And so what what we spoke with u the employees about when we're doing this um Ron in particular is that we're we're going to as she goes through and makes the adjustments that we proposed um we're we're carving out some time in our um schedule to um walk through those

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with her to make sure that she understands what they are because uh our explanations on those forms are pretty cryptic and so they might not be clear. So we're going to have some time to make sure they're clear. Um they get recorded correctly and then some u ideas about where they came from and why they came about so that next year um those things can be looked at before before we get there and and taken care of. And I and I think I feel confident that the number of adjustments will be uh uh reduced next year. Um we after we we had some we had some pretty lengthy discussions about where the adjustments were coming from and what they were about and so I feel confident about that. So um on as far as findings go there's we have a finding because there were a number of adjustments and when whenever we have excuse me one second

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sorry about that somebody walked in and I have my door open u one of one of the things that the governmental accounting standard Lord has stressed and continues to stress is that uh there needs to be a comment whenever we have enough adjustments either in number of adjustments or dollar amount of adjustments where it makes a significant impact. Um, and so we did have some of those and again it's mostly timing and approval stuff, but it it was enough to to change things um enough that we need felt like we needed to have the comment. And then um because of that, a couple of the line items in your budget went over and so that was a second comment, but it's really it's really the same it's really the same comment. we just had to we listed it separately because it one is a weakness in the reporting and one is a non-compliance because of the budget thing. Um and then the last item uh was a procurement issue. Um according um the state procurement requirements state that anytime funds are spent with a an individual vendor uh that equal or exceed $50,000 in a year in account fiscal year. Um the formal procurement procedures have to be followed which include advertising, sealed bids, all of those things that you've you've done on numerous occasions for all your major

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projects and all the significant things that have gone on every year over the years. Um what happened in the current year was that there were a few items that um there were a few vendors that when the expenditures were made um they they weren't procured um some of those were smaller items that added up to and exceeded 50,000 for the year and but and that that um that limit has been raised to 100,000. Um, so it won't be um as much of an issue going forward. But and honestly, I really think the limit needs to be raised more than that. But what they're trying to do, what they're trying to do in those procurement things is really not targets. they're what they're trying to target is places like Houston or some other place that's large that might uh might give out um awards to a preferred vendor um where they would say it u we're going to give you an award for this project but we're going to break the project into a 100 phases and each phase is going to be $49,000. So, u you're gonna in total it's a lot of money, but each phase is below the equipment. And so, what they've done is that if you spend 50,000 in total, not per phase or per project, but in total, you have to procure it. If again, it's it's targeted at abuse. And what happened with you is far from abuse. It has nothing to do

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with that, but because the dollar amount exceeded 50 um that it had to be noted. And so um so things like for example u your electric uh provider, if there's a contract in place that you procured and it was a 5-year contract, when that five years is up, um it needs to be procured again. not just renewed. Same with the garbage or the any other any other service that you have that where you procure it and you get the lowest bid or you choose maybe you choose the second lowest bid because of the reputation of the organization or whatever it is. But however you do it, you you've decided and then when that contract runs up, there's a renewal that's put in front of you and you just have to make sure that if the renewal phase was part of the original procurement, that's okay. If it wasn't specifically, then it has to be procured again. And so, um, again, none of these findings are things that anybody in the state is going to, uh, come to you about, uh, but they're things that we, as in our profession, we have to be able to note them for when we get audited that they don't see things and then say why why they didn't say anything. And so, um, that's that's why they're in there. So the overall the report is really good and your financial position is really good and um all of the help that we got when we were there was excellent. We we um everybody there was running around

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uh ragged while we were there. Uh and I'm sorry about that. But but that's that's what happened. But but they were extremely helpful and um so I we really appreciate all the help and um every question was answered. All the things were dealt with. So it was it was a very good audit from our perspective and a good report. Um, and that's I think all I was going to cover unless unless there's questions and I'll try to answer if there are. You know, Mr. Abby, one thing I will say is that in a small community sometimes the procurement process is a little more difficult to get exactly what you need. Sometimes there's one bidder, sometimes none. So, some of those items, but I just ask that of all the suggestions you made, uh, the corrective action, I think we'll take care of all of it and, uh, we should be just fine. And the suggestions you made, we understand and we certainly will address them. Y there's there's uh you know when we when we discussed every item that we discussed was met with um you know positive um like what can we do? How can we do it better? What do we need? How do we keep things from slipping through the cracks and all of that sort of thing. And so I I'm very confident and we're and we're available, you know, if if there are questions. Um Veronica, if you you I mean, if you or your staff you have questions when you're going through that, um we're we're available and we try to answer uh we answer emails quickly. We try to answer our phone, but sometimes we're in someone's office and

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we we can't immediately, but but we are available and we will um help you know uh clarify something if there's a question. Council Zulan have a question? I do. George, George, of course. Thanks. Of course, Mr. Handy, George Freeze. um in in looking forward looking forward to any changes that are kind of on the horizon for audits, anything that we need to be aware of and you know be be prepared be prepared for? Is there anything that you're kind of watching on the horizon?

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Yeah. Um well, one one thing that we that is coming um and I don't I don't think it's going to affect it won't affect uh I don't think it'll affect council it will affect uh the back office people but there there's a financial reporting uh change and it's going to change the management discussion and analysis section of the report. is going to change the financial statements themselves and the formatting of it and some things in the footnotes and disclosure. So that that's a it's mostly I would say mostly presentation but it's fairly significant amount of stuff and so that's one and then the other one is one that just started but it relates to compensated absences and honestly I think it's a fairly confusing um pronouncement because the What what they're getting at is they're trying to identify um and quantify the amount of time that people are paid not to work is what is the way they phrased it. And what they mean by that sick time, vacation time, any paid time off. Then um then also maternity or paternity leave, jury duty, um u you know um for family uh death in a family or something. All of those things. Um, and what they're trying to do is quantify what's the likelihood that people are going to take that time

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off and what is it going to cost. Um, the the the problem I from my standpoint is often times time off like that is not met with hiring new people to take their place. it's met with, okay, everybody, you've got more to do until that person comes back. So, it it doesn't actually cost the city or the organization anything um except exhaustion on the part of the people taking the place. So, or filling in. So, um but but that particular pronouncement is an ongoing thing that um will have to be monitored and um your your people are have to kind of keep track of all of that in order for us to be able to test it or audit it. So, um but that's not that's not new. who's new this year. But it's it's um I don't think it's going to be a major thing for the city of Glenrose, but it is for some organizations, I think. But

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is is that a Gazsby change or is that because of legislative change?

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Gazsby. It's a Gatsby 10. It's Gatsby 101. And they're they're uh they're pretty active. They're pretty active. So, um there's there's things um there are going to be some other requirements, but no, I don't I don't see anything coming down the road that should blindside anybody um or cause major disruption on in your budgeting process or require any um significant extra reserves or anything like that.

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All right. Thank you. Anybody else? All right. We appreciate your time. Have a good evening. All right. Well, thank you very much. I appreciate it. Thank you, sir. Thank you. All right.

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Before we move forward to the public hearings, I would like to say Veronica, you did an incredible job. You knew somewhat the budget process of the city. Jim Holder as well. And all of the directors, be warned, we'll get your numbers in a little earlier next year. We we've uh Richard made sure that happened. So, it's good. But thank y'all for submitting your numbers, the council for looking at the budget numbers and and uh deciding what's right, what's wrong for the community and we all I think can can slap ourselves on the back some more than others, but it was a great job. It's done. On to next year.

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Thank you. Uh,

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I make a motion to approve the audited financial the annual audited financial statement as presented. I'll second it. Second by council member Brunie. All in favor? 40. Passes. Wow. All right. We're going to move to uh I'm sorry.

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Item number two. Uh I'm going to need a staff introduction of this item, please. Public hearing by the board of adjustment at the request of Michaela Rambler on behalf of the Glenn Hotel LLC for a variance for the item listed below located on acres 0.187 track F7-24 abstract A136 A136 mile county school LD track F7-24 also known as 201 southwestern Orange Okay. I don't believe we have uh an applicant here to speak. Um any questions from the council for our staff member understand what we're voting for here or looking at?

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All right. I'm going to open the public hearing now on this item. And we have uh one speaker registered, Miss Edwards. Hi, my name is Tan Edwards 2002nd Street. I'm going to speak on me first and then I'm going to speak also on for Brenda Ransom who couldn't be here tonight. She owns Country Pedler across the street from where this kind of diag. Yes sir.

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I just want you to take in the impact of yes there may have been agreements made previously but we don't know about per se as a public. However, having to take 31 rooms and have no parking and you're only allowed street parking at first is just maybe what happens. I know some of those businesses are currently vacant. However, some most of them have been sold within the last month or less. Honestly, one's going up or one's being sold. I as I know in the last few days pretty recently, I know the other one across the street had already sold. If you're going to allow I know 31 rooms won't be booked all the time. However, hopefully we're looking at a good 20. 20 people brings 20 extra cars to a town that already doesn't have a lot of parking right there. Um, street parking, yes, maybe looks to some people if they park in front of these businesses that people are there. However, and know it also discourages people to stop and not go to these businesses. If they see a ton of cars lying down the road, they're not going to stop. They're just going to keep going because it's not easy to get there. It's not easy, especially because in order to get to all of these businesses, you either park in front of them or you have to walk a pretty good ways. And for some people, that's not an easy thing to do. So, just really really think that she needs the owner of this place needs to come up with a better solution because also that's she didn't bring a solution. Maybe she would have if she was here tonight. However, from what I know talking to the building department, there was no solution brought up to this. Oh, I guess we're just going to make them park on the street. There was no parking lots suggested. There was nothing to say, "Hey, here are some other options that we have that we could use." Now, that was my opinion. So, now I'm going to go to Brenda's opinion. Brenda Ransom, she owns Country Puddler, like I said, across the street from where this is. Um, she would have been here tonight. She had some other she's on part of the rodeo committee, so she had to do that. Um, she already has a

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hard time with her business because of where it is. And then they have a now a new business next door to her that is also struggling pretty much. Now theirs is just a hobby. Brenda's is a hobby, but it also is her livelihood in a way. That's what she does for a living. Um antiques and estate sales. And she parks in front of her store. Yes. And that's how most people know she's at her store to talk to stop and shop and to talk and see her. However, and then you have the Chinese restaurant and the makers table. And honestly, the Makers Table Scenes, they always they do have a lot of cars that park there because they have a lot of little kids that go there and do the activities that they offer and do. And a lot of the times a Chinese place comes and goes. However, you have to think about the impact you're parking cars for a weekend. So, we're talking two or three nights just parked on the side of the street in front of all these businesses that are trying to survive in our town that's already struggling to keep business downtown.

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Thank you, M. Edwards.

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Uh, Kimberly McDonald 1077 Rugged Oak Road, Glen Rose, Texas. I also work for the senior citizen center which is 209 southwest which is just two doors down from the hotel. Um parking has become a major issue when we have events and stuff. We have to park on the streets and across the street in the open lot. Um I think we should withhold the hotel to the standards that we've been doing to the bed and breakfastes. I think they need a parking space for every hotel room. There is land available on the square for parking. They may have to transport people back and forth, but parking is an issue. I mean, we have people from and on the river. We have people from River House Grill. We have people from bed and breakfastes. I mean, our parking lot on Saturday nights is is full and we don't even have an event going on a lot of times. So, parking is a major issue downtown. So, please consider making them have some type of parking lot somewhere on the square. Thank you.

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Thank you. Anyone else that would like to speak on this? All right, I'm going to close the public hearing portion of this and we can go down to uh item number three. Veronica, you want to read that for me? Board of adjustment discussions and possible action by the board of adjustment at the request of Michaela Rambler on behalf of the Glenn Hotel LLC for a variance for the item listed below located on acre 0.187 tract F7-24 abstract A136 A136 mile county school LD track F724 also known as 201 Southwest.

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Can I ask a procedural question? I'm sorry. Can I just ask a procedural question? Yes, you can. I've always been under the impression that for any type of a variance or SUV or something, the applicant had to be present to answer questions for counsel or you wouldn't vote on it. I don't think so. I'm just asking procedurally. That's been what I have witnessed. So, it's uh it's it's unusual, but I don't believe it's protocol at all. Okay. Did you have something?

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Um, well, I would like to table this to next month because uh Michaela is working on some a couple different places for some different off- streetet parking. I don't know what your guys your guys's ideas on it, but she is working on some stuff. Well, we have it open now. If anyone would like to make a short comment, that's great. But we can certainly table it and I mean consider her options that she may be bringing forth. Anybody have a y'all willing to wait a while? I'm willing to wait. I'd love to hear what she has what what her plans are, what she's thinking. All right, let's table this item then. I'll close the item number and we'll wait and and hear those options.

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Yeah. All right. Why didn't you table before we started? Because we already put the north public hearing. So after public hearing done, we're tableling it until next month. Is that what we're doing? Yes, ma'am. We sure are. Okay. We're going to move now to individual items for consideration. We already covered number four.

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I just real quick, she is working on another on a plan. I just want everybody to know that. I don't know where she is. Go ahead. Okay. Number four, we've covered. Number five, discussion, consideration, possible action regarding recommendations for clarification on article 1.01.018 for the effective date of ordinance. Could you give your name and address, please?

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Straighter. I'm standing here as PNC. Uh, but it's 205 Southwest Bernard. Um, we brought all of this before you last week, uh, or last month. Um, there was a lot of requests for additional research. Um, because it was tabled and not sent back to the commission, it is here before you again. So, I'd like to briefly give you the research, then you can decide whether you want to accept some changes to what we originally presented or if you wanted to go back to council to commission, not council to commission. and we revise and bring forward a new idea is the only way we can do this or you can table it again. Um so the first one that we're discussing is clarification on the effective dates of ordinance um in researching and talking with TML. Um general ordinance not related to zoning um is available to be effective once city council votes and approves the ordinance. the mayor signs it within the four days of the approval and the city secretary records it. So, um I suggest that we do that a zoning ordinance and this is something that I do not believe that we have ever done and we need to start doing. um any ordinance that accompanies any types of fines or penalties. Once city council approves it, it has to be published in the newspaper to give notice that this is now in effect and that it is only after it has been published and because we're a weekly paper, it's published once um can the ordinance go into effect. So, as we have been adding some ordinances

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that had some teeth to it, um I do not believe that we followed this. So, we're going to have to go through find those either remove any penalties or publish all of them um and move it move them forward as official so that we have teeth. What TML said is that if you don't do it, it just means that the courts can actually think about whether they want to honor the penalty or not. But if you publish it, the courts will automatically side with the city. I will consider that.

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So that's the the findings. Um, do you guys want to discuss and accept the changes per TML or for when we do an ordinance, do you want to send it to uh the commission to rewrite or do you guys want to table it? Those are your three choice or kill it and not do anything. Those are your four choices.

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How many ordinances we talked about publishing in the newspap? What the main ones that we have right now that have penalties attached are really about uh tree ordinances. There's a few other minor ones. We're talking probably 10 at the most. I think some of those were published. I think when we have to go back when Michael was here, Michael published. Okay. We'll have to go back and double check.

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I don't I don't think that's I don't think that's an issue. I personally I'm fine with the language that we have right now. It says, "Unless otherwise expressly provided within the specific ordinance, all ordinances adopted by the city council shall take effect immediately upon their passage and approval by the city council." And here's that about posting. If an ordinance expressly states that it also takes effect upon publication, such ordinance shall take effect upon its publication within the city's official online code of ordinances or as otherwise lawfully designated by the city council. So if we pass an ordinance that has a penalty then we we have to publish that ordinance and then in that ordinance we can either state that it's effective 60 days post 30 days post it's immediate whatever the whatever the flavor is this kind of covers within what TML uh has put out there because so two or number three where if the ordinance encompasses is fines, penalties or forfeitures, we would have already posted it in an official publication. I think that's the definition of the publication. So to me, I I don't know that we gain anything by changing 1018. I believe I agree with that, George. Okay. So, you want to do option D? I'll make that motion that we do not change our ordinance. You have a second.

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Can I ask did something happen that has made this come to light that we were kind of iffy on or whoever was complaining was not understanding? I mean, what's what was what's kind of the reason for this coming forward? Something happened with this pan. There was there was some questions of people wanting to understand and so uh of when the the effectiveness went and and so we just wanted to clarify it with a little bit more simple speech. Um so it's the speech the verbiage it's not so much what we have is wrong. It's just it's not comprehensible leaving it as is.

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Okay. cuz you pulled up what's published online, George, right? You you pulled up what's published online. Okay. Yeah. All right. I'll second council. We have a motion second by Mayor Pro Tim man. All in favor zero passes. Okay.

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All right. Item six, discussion, consideration, possible action regarding recommendation for additional for addition of article 4.010 short-term rental to include information about the current SU process as well as density and zoning regulations. Okay. So, to remind you, this came up because there has been multiple times of speaking over the last several years about short-term rentals, how many we have, um, and whether or not it is, uh, playing into any type of a housing situation. So, for the record, um the last count is now 53 within the city limits, which makes just just just over 5% of our single occupancy homes are operating as short-term rentals. So, we had proposed some ideas. Um if you'll remember, we had kind of um started with some just basic regulations and formatting. um asking for some additional information that would actually help the tourism department with tax information um by getting the codes that are needed. Um we originally had kind of said the the commission has kind of said take everything that's basically from Bernard to Bernard River to 67 put that in as where short-term rentals can be with no caps. Um the question came back from council on how do other cities have do this? Um and so it's a little all over the board. Um some they obviously have parking rules, they have some occupancy rules, noise

59:40 – 1:01:380

and ordinance rules. Um there are cities that do an inspection once a year. Um David is not asking for that by the way. He quite plainly told me he does not necessarily believe that we need to be doing inspections. Um, but in some towns it's fire marshals that they're asking to go in um for safety reasons. Um, I know that when Herford Shire was opening, there was a lot of talk from the fire marshalss that every room needed to have a door, every door that was being occupied needed a door number on it so that they knew it was a room occupied by tenants. And we don't have that anywhere in our ordinances. And whether or not we want it to be, I'm just telling you what's going on. Um key things are like in Fredericksburg their um goal is to keep it all in the tourism area but not avoid over overconentration in nearby neighborhoods. You'll see that New Brunsw their biggest things are strict enforce zoning enforcement uh special use permits um keeping it into commercial zones and not standard residential districts. Um some of the specific uh small towns are doing city specific permits, occupancy limits. um when we went and looked exactly at um whether a percentage cap versus a zoning regulation. So Austin um and Waco um and a couple other cities do percentage caps. They do it mainly on block faces. So like one house per block

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could be and that doesn't make sense for us here. Um it's that's not feasible. Um some areas are area based caps. So again you look at per mapped area put a citywide percentage in. Um other cities um are just zoning it into some areas and other areas. So, um I will tell you, um I kind of posed, we talked about some of this at the last, um commission meeting. Um and one of the ideas that we talked through was kind of and I sent a map around to you guys was inside the green blocks um have unlimited. Um, out inside orange is absolutely none. And then outside in those boxes, put some type of a cap in. So, if you're looking at the orange blocks, that's all the streets surrounding the schools. Um, and so keeping them away from schools, which we did find a lot of towns were doing. The green blocks were basically going down Bernard Street. It's up and around the square. maybe taking off. I will say Yami who's the our real estate representative, she was kind of thinking adding Jefferson and some of the stuff a little further away. Um kind of going up Herford to the left where Jefferson Avenue and Walker and Ross and letting those be in the unlimited block. But Rally, we're happy to go do anything on this one. So here's your options again. send it back to the commission to to re look at it all again and present new ideas. Um

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vote on something related to whether we what we've presented where some or some changes. Uh table it for you guys to have more time to review or kill it. And we do nothing about short-term rentals, which basically means anybody could come for a short-term rental in any residential zone and they would have to be approved because there's no reason to say no. So, do we have a current SUP process?

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We have an SUP process. What we want to add to that SUP specifically is some additional information about their VBO ID number, their Airbnb ID number, and making sure that they've registered that they're paying hotel occupancy tax. That will help Tracy not still taking it through the SUP process, but making sure we have additional information. so that it's easier to reconcile are they paying or not paying their occupancy taxes. Any other questions from council?

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So it's not really a question. I guess it's just more I just think this is such a hard It is very hard. Very very hard and so many cities are grappling with this. So right now you're you're this one of the suggestions is the area outside I think you said the green box uh no none could be issued past now I mean whatever's there is there so so they be grandfathered in the original plan that we gave you last month right

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it was Bernard Street to Bernard Street the river to 67 was an unlimited amount of SRTs, nothing outside of that area.

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What I showed you in the map this time, which was around a discussion that the commission had, we couldn't vote on this. We cannot recommend it, but it was an idea that we had was that within the green blocks that those are unlimited SRTs. outside of the green blocks you put a cap on and then inside the orange ones you have zero. They're not allowed. So, anybody that's in the orange right now would be grandfathered, but we wouldn't allow another one to happen.

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And then anybody that's in the area, anybody that's outside the green would be grandfathered in. So would we be at that cap outside of the green right now? Don't actually know. Okay. I don't believe so. I believe that the majority of the SRTs really in the city limits are within this green area, but you can decide what your cap is. You may cap it at 5% at 10%. I think we're probably we're probably about 20 outside and then I I had a report from source uh

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yeah no yeah but some of this is county right so some of that so there's 62 that we've identified that are in the city and the county so we I don't have a location on those Um,

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Ann, you have a quick comment. I just had a question. She know that there's 53 um short-term rentals and that accounts for that are that accounts for 5%. Does that include the short-term rentals that we know are owner occupied and they just give it up for a few weekends? Is she including that? because a lot of those that have come for SUPs are owner occupied 300 out of the 365 to our knowledge. No, that does not include those. So you're saying I%

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what what is being counted by the reports that they've gotten from this company and what myself and Tracy have looked through are the ones that are regularly advertised that are not related to an owner occupied home. I apologize Mr. Mayor. Anything up here? Uh yeah. So you you're referencing a new map which council does not have. All we have is the old map that you had that has the entire large circle. You should I I don't feel comfortable personally voting on something that I don't have before me at the moment. Are you looking at this same map I'm looking at?

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Yes, sir. Same as this. I gave Veronica for you guys. Veronica. Veronica. I sent you everything she sent. I fored it all. You know where it says see map, see green. Green's unlimited, but there's no map. Scroll down. The next item out of the out of the text. If she forward you the email or did you accept put the email? We just get back. This was attached to the email I sent to her. I just was making sure it wasn't just me that doesn't have the map. I'm the same. I'm looking for the orange blocks. I'm sorry. It was on the email I sent her. We have to forgive her. she has had a lot going on.

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So, I wonder I wonder what the impact of the changes that we've made recently for lot sizes and the the the work on Rock Ridge 3 and some of the properties that we have developed. If if the solution if the solution we're trying to solve for is a a a workforce housing question and not a reuse of an existing property or conversion to an existing property from a rental or a home to a STR then I wonder I wonder what the effect of the recent changes that we have made will have on

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there certainly attacks it from another angle, I believe. Yeah. Send this back to the commission. That way you get the map.

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Before we do that, I just I think it's such a rock and a hard place because we Rich brought it up last time that so much of our affordable housing is within our our city. limits like you know a lot of the homes that are going down Bernard Street are smaller homes I can think of three families that was their first time home you know that had lived there but on the other hand I would live out I well I'm not sure exactly where my house is but I know I would drive through the area you're suggesting be a cab and there are homes we live by each other there are homes on that road that it would be so exciting if somebody would buy it, it's very small. It would be very hard for a family to live in that because what what I've seen is when they do buy them for short-term rentals, they're fixed up, they're super cute, and they just make things. So, I would be in favor of us looking at caps and maybe even in some areas and and maybe even a cap within the city limits because outside of these these parameters you're giving us, what other areas are areas that would be comparable housing prices that and I said Rich brought that up last time which I thought was a fantastic idea. Like I said last time is last month is that one of my big concerns is is Granberry has a blocked area that is only for STRs and the properties there. You can't touch a piece of property there for under $450,000 where you can buy something anywhere else in the city for $30. So, so where I'm getting at is the property in that geographical area because it's a money maker or however

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you want to call it a short-term rental to to make an income. The people that are selling those homes in that geographical area are asking for a lot more money for their home in that area. So, and that's one of my fears that will be something that we'll have to deal with if we do something like this ourselves. It may end up being that we we block off a certain area, that property, that real estate area might be even more well, number one, more in demand, but it's going to have a lot more higher price because of that. George, do you have opinions?

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A lot of opinions. Uh, I look, I I just I think we're I think we're trying to not necessarily applying market manipulation, but we're trying to kind of solve for something that we just don't see yet. I mean, well, I disagree. I think we do see it. We But where where is the problem? Where is where are people running to go buy homes and converting the use? It's not there. It's just not there. Well, we just had one, two, three. No, I've got five in the last You've had five in the last couple of months.

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And how many home sales and how many home sales have there been inside the city limits, and we can come up with five?

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I I don't know that answer, but I will I know of are existing Airbnbs that went back to an Airbnb. So that's I I would be in favor of letting let's see what happens with some time and with some of the changes that we've made for the for the for the properties that we have identified that could be cut up and made into smaller pieces and you could get an an affordable home onto a lot. Let let's see what happens with that before we go into something like this because the the other piece of it is if someone has a has a a grandfathered STR,

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they have an accessory dwelling unit and they have a they have a an existing Airbnb, they would be grandfathered because they're outside of the zone. then we have in effect if if that person goes to sell that property they can't monetize the value of that of that additional unit for an STR. So in effect we have affected their value of the home that they could have sold it for because then they would no longer be able to be grandfathered in and it wouldn't transfer with it. that have to come back to us and have a have a touch of variance or some other type of way to go back and open that property up that was an STR already.

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This came up because we were asked through various conversations of council that we needed to start looking at this. We looked this is all you guys and when we looked at it two years ago, we reached the same conclusion. I'm just I'm just we brought it to you. you're ultimately the ones that have to make the decision. So, it sounds like we either send it back to the commission or you're killing it is the two main discussions. Well, I I agree with George in that I would like to see the impact of the changes we made. Okay.

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I think we've opened up ourselves an opportunity for people to to to build affordable housing. We can kill it for six months and then if you guys see the need, we bring it back again. I don't have a problem with that. You can kill it for a year. You just tell us when you want us to pick it back up and work on it again and we'll do that. Oh, no. I have no qualms about how you This is all your decision. We just doing what we were told. You did very well. So, George, you got a motion. I will make a motion. Let me get to the let me get to the agenda.

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I make a motion to not adopt a section regarding the short-term rentals for the city of Gumrose under article 4.10 and use our current SUV process. Can we alter the form just to add those two other little things? Doesn't say they have to pay hotel. My motion doesn't collect. Do we have a second? I tried to I'll second by Mayor Pro Tim. Ma'am, before we what what are you saying that you want to add something about on the SUV

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on the SUP form that we add that they have to give us the the VBO ID number and the Airbnb ID number and that's how you know they're paying their So that is when the check and Veronica you need to tell me if it's not happening this I'll agree to that. Yes, that's what that's what we want. When the RBO or Airbnb send you guys the money every month, do you not get paperwork behind it that has a bunch of ID numbers?

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Yes. that having those ID numbers on the SU means that we're able to take the the paperwork from the RBO and Airbnb and identify which short-term rentals are paying hotel occupancy tax. That's why we want those numbers. Yes, I'll agree to that. an amending and adding the SUP process to include the VBO number, the airbnb number, the rent me number, whoever it is out there that whoever it is, whoever it is and however they Okay, we have amended motion.

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Start has to second by Mayor Pro Tim man. All in favor zero passes. Okay. Connect. Tracy says thank you. Okay. Seven. Discussion consideration possible action regarding recommendations for additional for addition of article 3.18 building unit size changes and occupancy fate factors. All right. So, make sure I'm talking about the right one.

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Okay. So, this is basically and and not to pick on any business, but we all know that when um Beehive needed to split their building, there was a whole lot of drama. And so our idea is to take the drama away by outlining very specifically what has to happen if you want to take a single tenant commercial building and convert it to a multi-tenant commercial building. And yes, this is necessary because we've had a few requests. I know. One, two, two, three. More buildings wanting to do this. And we don't want the drama of not know them not knowing what what are the procedures, what are the things that have to happen, why do they need this different information. So that is what this is about. So in going through the discussions um anything related to uh let's make sure I paper and you know some of this language is a little vague to me.

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Sure. And so I'm not sure I'm ready to throw it in on I mean such as I don't want interpretation when we go out and look at an additional you know like adequate emergency exits. Well that becomes a fire marshal discussion. Well I know but I have a little issue with the fire marshall sometimes. Okay. Fair enough. Okay. Fair enough. You know I don't like interpretation. Okay. But some of the language I've gone through just makes me irritated. Well, no, just too much interpretation. Yeah.

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Okay. So, again, here's where your options are. We did a little bit more research and provided the detail. Um so again your options are um you tabled it you can now send it back to commission for us to take the research that we've provided and the comment of don't leave things open for interpretation. Well let me ask this council do does anybody have comments on this yet? Really and truly if you don't I'd like to take it myself and go through it and and visit with you and David

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and put a little more I'd like to hear David come on up. David Lebron, building official to say my address. No, just happy birthday, David. It's on St. Patrick's Day. I don't know if I'm lucky or not, but yeah, you are. Um, so in my opinion, yes, it probably could be simplified. Um, some of that stuff is already laid out in the schedule of uses. You just need to

1:22:21 – 1:23:050

Yeah, exactly. kind of understand how you can get to that point. Are you going to meet your parking standards? Are you going to meet these? You know, maybe it just needs to just specifically say you must meet these standards if you're going to do this, you know, just that simple. Because Yeah, because I mean Yeah, exactly. Because sometimes they'll try to add a business there and they don't have enough parking. So it's like well you got to understand if you want to add that business there you might have to upgrade your parking. So I mean it already spells it out there but but we also have other things such as that you know whether the walls you know firewall or

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firewalls and all that. There is other things to it that gives them, hey, if you're currently classified as this, then the building your building code is this. But if you're changing your classifications or you're having conflicting C classifications, then you're going to have to follow this. Yeah, but if you have if you have an existing building, let's say, not wanting to pick on anyone, but uh the the the I'll tell you the Glen Coffee Company, the strip center, the strip center over there by Food Center. I can't even think what the name of it is.

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Let me give you a different because that's already multiple tenants. You've got the Glenrose Coffee Company right across from the high school. Okay. Who wants to divide it into two? Okay, they don't want the interior. They want to go split it kind of in half. They want to keep the back half where they've got their kitcheny, their counter, their drive-through window, and they want to take the front half and make that somebody else's space, whether it be an office or anything that anybody who's willing to rent it, they want to do that. with that 20 square feet they're speaking about. I I didn't say that it would make a lot of sense, but I said that's what they want to do.

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It makes sense because their last name is BS. So, it makes sense. They they need So, what they need is what is going to be the standard? Are they going to have to have in that new space access to a restroom? Are they going to have to have two, you know, exits depending on sizes? So there is things that it got very confusing for Jackie because people had different ideas of what had to happen. And so by us spelling out here's the step by step

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takes out that interpretation because it does a lot of the ordinance says build an officials interpretation. So, we're just trying to make it more here's if you want to do this, we have no problem with you doing it, but you need to understand these are the things you're going to have to consider to do it. So, that there's no interpretation of do you need this or that. Go ahead, St. Is this the same thing that they did at the old old dollar store, right? where it's a liquor store now and yes, same thing and we didn't have problems there, right?

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But that was because you actually had a developer involved with professional construction versus lesser different interpretations of the people doing the work. So lesser informed, how about I say it that way. So it can change based on your building official. True. And you said you've had various building officials. So if this building official this way and she reads it this way, you know, it's two different interpretations. So you want to make sure you just kind of it it doesn't have to be, you know, extensive. It could just clearly say this,

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right? But we shuffle on on Jackie's deal, on the Beehive deal, we shuffled through a bunch of different things. But it's almost like once I got to Veritoss, it all kind of planed out. Yeah. Well, it didn't. It didn't. Mayor, do you want to work Do you want a workshop on this? I I think we should. I think there's just enough going back and forth that we need to look and compare. I'm good with that. I would be in favor of that. Yeah. I'll make a motion to send it back to commission with mayor to assist and and clean up the verbiage and make sure that it's all nice and tidy and understanding with the building official. Building official. Yeah, absolutely. All right, let's do that. David, I'll second. Sounds good.

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Second by who? By Mr. Freeze. All in favor? 40 passes. We'll get this baby done. And when did you get on that?

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I'm just going to tell you then when we hit item eight, this is about when when does a property that is going through an expansion or renovation um and taking building code out of play because building code is very cut and dry. They have an ordinance for when it h when wind plumbing, electrical, fire safety, all that. But when it has to be brought up to standards for the city ordinances and that could be anything from parking trees, um, signage, lighting, all that to all of our ordinances related to businesses that have nothing to do with the building code. And the general rule from everything that we have researched is 50%. 50% of the value of the property being spent on renovations and we've said CAD is the most accurate or not but either using CAD because it's a definitive number that nobody has an opinion about. So you take well nobody has an opinion that is changing the number. So whatever the number in CAD is at the time that they're asking for the permits needed is the number that if they're going to spend more than 50% of that number then they have to meet all of the city's currently adopted ordinances. The only problem I have with that is it can be very opulent and cause that.

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You know, Glenn Rose, you're right. But that's the standard for building code. That's the standard for everything else.

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So, we just said let's take that same standard. So if you are, you know, adding a little, you know, 25 square foot something closet to a a commercial building, it's not going to hit the number. You don't have to do anything with the current ordinances. But if you're spending, if you've bought something like let's take Redbart because eventually that property is going to come up for sale. It may be in another hundred years, but it eventually will come up for sale. And when that does, they are grandfathered in on so many of the older ordinances of the city that at the time that that property is going to need help that it will we will want it to come up and follow the current city ordinance of lighting, parking, signage, streets, etc. But it may not hit 50%.

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It may not. And then it and then nothing happens. I know. That's why I'm flaking out on this one. I just Yeah. Well, just think about it. You go into John's place and you look at that. You look at the length. I think it'll be longer. It will cost more to fix it than 50%. Trust me. Probably. But at some point in time when people keep selling a property, a commercial, and we're only talking about commercial properties, when a commercial property is changing hands, when are we going to say, "Hey, we've passed all these new ordinances to improve our city if when do they have to start following them?" Yeah.

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And if we're going to say they never do, then why are we writing ordinances? Let's just go back to the wildlife. Okay, I think we need to do something here, but I'm going to introduce the item anyway and let you guys really just going to make a decision. Item 8, discussion, consideration, possible action regarding recommendations for amendments to chapter 3, building regulations, article 3.01, related to what effective code and when existing properties must be brought to effective code. George,

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I I guess I'm trying to think through if we have a developer comes and redevelops a piece of property. You're saying that currently some of those other ordinances will not apply. Is we don't have it in writing that they have to. So then why don't we go and change those existing ordinances because that's changing it in 50 different ordinances as opposed to taking one.

1:32:09 – 1:32:510

So it would example be use Red Barn. I'm assuming they have no fire safety if something catches I seriously doubt that they do. Yes. And so, but one of the ordinances that I assume we have in as far as effect is fire safety that actually comes under the building code. So, that that that would be touched by the building code. So, so if that if that property sells, the building code's going to hit the building code's going to hit that particular thing. Fire safety, electric, plumbing, and and so give an example of something that would not lighting, signage, trees, parking,

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landscape. That's all the stuff that we're talking about. parking a parking going to come with their site plan and a redevelopment, but it doesn't have to is what you're saying, right? They could build that building and leave a gravel. They didn't spend the 50% of it 50%. If they did that right, if they spent less than 50% of the valuation of the property, then no, they don't have to do any of the updates. They can continue letting it be as is. If they spend more than 50% of the value, and we're proposing 50%, you guys can set the amount.

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I think it needs to be lower myself.

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I'm just saying you guys can set the amount. We're saying 50% of the valuation of the property based off what CAD says then or or you can choose to add what the purchase price of the property was as long as it was purchased within the last some time period 6 months something like that. But whatever that value is, if they're spending more than that, more than half or quarter or whatever it is, they would have to bring up to the business and in city ordinances. All the fire life safety, the building code, the the plumbing, the electrical, the water, all of that's falling under building codes. That's taking care of it. That that is all 50%.

1:34:200

Okay. um council.

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So if you if you I'm just sitting here thinking through this. So if we have a easy numbers, we have a half a million dollar piece of property. They do $250,000 worth of improvements or more the way this is at 50%. Then we would we would have an expectation of the landscape ordinance, the parking ordinance, the other things that are not related to a code, electrical or building. It could give us the opportunity to have a development agreement with with the property owner, a a true development agreement where we could get a better development at the end of the day by having compliance with something like this. It's a it's a maybe a way to introduce a good development agreement for a piece of property. Keep in mind a variance would still be possible,

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which they would have to apply for. Correct. I I see I see the use here, but my problem is this. Outside of Red Barn and a couple other spots, they're never going to get to 50%. In a lot of cases, I'm just I don't know. There's a lot of there's a lot of buildings, and I'm not going to call out people's names because I own one, but There's a number of buildings that have value on the tax roles. Okay. I don't get to vote. Oh, this Hey, listen. I'm I'm not going to tell you more after this public comments. We got a huge storm coming and I want to get out of

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I was just going to ask my only question is was to was you were talking about if they sell and all of that. If a new owner has it and they do the upgrades, they automatically have to do the new ordinance if they come to a new owner. The current owner doesn't have to do the upgrades because it hasn't sold. The value hasn't ch I mean, it hasn't sold. Is that what you're saying? No, that's not what they said. No. Okay. So, ours is Okay. You were talking about selling. Yeah. Let's discuss that later. We get it here. In our case, it could also be not that the property sells, but that somebody who currently owns it is doing work.

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Okay. Now, just to let everyone know, there'll be no more public comments allowed tonight. I got one question for you. When we talk, if you do want to discuss it, just come to a member afterwards, Cam. We talked about grandfathering in. Yes. Is grandfathering in under the building permit side or is are they automatically grandfathered in once they start the demolition permit? In other words, the Glenn I'm using the Glenn Hotel as an example, right? They they currently have a demolition permit. There's no grandfather. No, they it's building permit. Yeah. Every single permit

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depends on alteration level. So So pass then then they would have to Um, oh, you're talking about for them. Yeah. Yes. Let me refer to them because because we're talking we've talked to grandfathering. You're saying are they going to have to complet that is exactly what I got you because cuz Okay, they've already started a permitting process, but they're not at the building permit. They're at the demo permit. So each permit

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each permit the demo permits, it would only be on the building per when the building permits hit. So again, like I started, if this turned around and passed and they tonight and they turn around and started working and coming to the building official tomorrow to get a building permit to start their construction, they would have to follow all the new guidelines. Correct. Not any that would be grandfathered,

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which is actually why you were I mean in the change of ownership is what forced the whole parking variance to come up. I I would be in favor of let's let's kind of parking lot this for a little while and think through the implications of it because I I I do like the idea of having an opportunity to have a development agreement with the developer who wanted to do something nice and they have some hesitancy or there's some reticence on their part to comply with all of our zoning ordinances. That's the whole goal here is because when you see like you said a mom and pop come in but they might not have enough money to do the

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parking lot. But by Texas law and this is where this was really coming in and as Ann was mentioning by Texas law the grandfathering stops when ownership changes. Right. Okay. Which is that's why the Glenn had to come to you for the parking variance. Right. So, this is really geared around people upgrading if they already own it. Yes. But it wouldn't be that only. No, this would this would apply to anyone

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who was making a revision to an existing piece of property. Correct. That was greater than 50% of the value of the property as reported on the cat. Correct. I again I I would be very comfortable with thinking through this for another month or so and and think we really

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So your options again are table send back to commission for us to revisit it some more um or kill I for one don't want to kill it. I think anytime we're trying to make upgrades to current structures, that's a good thing. So, um yeah, but I don't want to limit uh you know, you can play that and that's great. I agree with you, but

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So, we want to continue allowing developers to come in and do something and not say, "Hey, if you go over 50%, you got to adhere to all this." And they say, "No, thank you. I don't want to get to that point either because we will. So, here's what I suggest. Just like the last one, that we send it back to commission with the idea that Joe or somebody you as the council appoint workshop with us and David on how can we get this. Why don't you do that? You're really well boast in this. I will. Okay, let's put George on that feedback. All right.

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I'd like to point out this is two months in a row. I got nothing passed. I am. All right. Well, let's do number nine. Maybe you get something there. Well, we need to take a No, you just tabled it. So, motion to table. Okay. Well, it's not tabled. It's going back to commission. Oh, yeah. It's going back to commission. Yeah, that's it. You got a vote on that? Make a motion. I'll make a motion to send it back to commission and have Councilman Freeze work with PNZ and David and to to readress modifications to this.

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Yes, sir. Are we ready to vote? We're worried about the window. Second one. All right. All in favor? Raise your hands. 4 Z passes. Okay.

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Discussion, consideration, possible action regarding the dismissal of a plan and zoning commission member and the appointment of a new applicant. We have a member of the commission who last year of the 13 meeting scheduled meetings held um missed seven of them which means more than 50%. We've had two meetings so far this year. She's missed one. We are asking that um you enact your rights for a lack of attendance to remove the person from the commission and review your options for appointing a new person. And the reason we are saying this is we want a full commission to have a full well-rounded opinions as we bring things forward for you. And right now we aren't doing that. council.

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Is this person requested to be? No. So, is is this going to become a surprise to this person? Not a surprise. We all know the limitation if if you miss a certain number of meetings. Yeah. Our ordinance states three meetings. We've given her plenty of time and she has been told. Did you tell her that? Yes. Okay. Documented. No, doesn't have to go. I mean, we know the ordinance. It's there. The ordinance stands behind you guys removing the person. But honestly, she's got so many other things going on. H how's how's this this man's last name? Is that

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Do you know who he is? No. He has the tattoo. Don't know the what? Yeah, he's he comes to every one of our meetings and and we have engaged him in dialogue. I go, "Yeah, real deep voice fell." Nice. Very polite guy. I actually don't know. Why are you asking me and I want him dressing properly? But he came before council who was putting his tattoo shop in and there were adversity with the landlord as well. Correct. He presents himself very well and he loves this community and I'm going to say this is a good thing

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and we asked him I will say that when we asked him if he had an interest level in it and if he did would he please apply because we have this partial vacancy that we need to resolve. I make a motion to appoint Matt Cuda to the unexpired term for someone Megan Shy. Megan Chalky. I second. Seconded by Makes. All in favor? 4 Z. There you go. Got one. Yay. Number 10 discussion. Can we go to 11? Miss Bruce is here. Just keep going.

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You're almost there. Are you in his district? No. Oh, maybe. There we go. It's just one more. Number 10. Discussion, consideration, possible action regarding applying for the downtown revitalization grant and hiring public management for grant writing assistance. Who's doing this? Me.

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All right. Well, so as you all recall, um, last month it was brought to our attention that there's another grant opening for the downtown grant. And so I just wanted to put it on the docket so we could possibly engage Jake um into helping us with this. So Jim sent Jake, our grant writer that helped us with the park. He sent a letter or asking him about this grant and I was just going to fill y'all in. Um Jake does not feel we would have an opportunity to get this grant because we score our city scores 73.26 26 in their index and last year the score the lowest score that was awarded that was 79.5. Um and the main reason is that our median household income is relatively high. Um he did go on to say that we if we were interested he certainly would assist us with that. the application, the initial application only takes about 20 minutes. Um, and that, you know, to get it filed for the for the grant. So, so I was all excited and then I had my the wind taken out of my sales on his response. However, I phoned it out there.

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George and I talked about this and you when I sent you that message, you said, "Let me ask somebody." And did you find out anything?

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I did. I did. Yes. So it it's it's a question of our what's called the LMI. Our low and moderate income. So the the census says the low and moderate income is like $74,000 or something and our LMI is 71. So we will lose some points on that LMI number. There's no doubt about that. Um but we have not ever applied for this grant. So, we'll get the full 50 points for that because we have never applied. And I'm sure that's probably where Jake scored it and like, you know, maybe we were close but we didn't quite get there. Um, you know, there's there's there's a couple of points that you could pick up for an overmatch. The currently the match is $50,000 to get the max points. Um a and there's a there's a little sweetener for u an overmatch, but it's a million dollars with a $50,000 kind of baseline commitment for the for us as a as a group. And did Jake say how much he had charges to make the application?

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No, he just said it would be take about 20 minutes in the email that he sent back to Jim. I would I I even if even if they tell us no, I'd love to see it because the scope if we did the scope of the grant to be the the walking bridge from Heritage Park to downtown, we'd certainly spend a million dollars. So, we're not going to have problems spending the money. And if we could score it and just by chance somebody else doesn't apply and we and it it were to drift down to our closer to our number, maybe we could get us a a an award. I I would I would be in favor of applying. Um it's just I you know fix right. Our LMI is pretty high. There's no way to challenge it. Um we can't like go do a survey. The number is the number. So, we're going to get the three or four points for that category and that's, you know, others maybe have a lower LMI, so they they get more points than we do. That's for sure.

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I wasn't here when y'all did the PAR grant. So, I mean, like, how does Jake It's a percentage a percentage of what you are awarded. But what did you do? 7%. No, I I think he gave us a flat fee. It was a flat fee. It was 70. We paid him $7500 to do the the Texas Parks and Wildlife grant. Yeah. This one I would charge $100 if it takes 20 minutes, right? Well, I'd like to find out that number. What's the deadline? But the deadline is Thank you. May. What is it? May 1. I thought it was April something. I think it's in I think it's in April. So they do they do two cuts. Yeah.

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They they they give you the first cut and then they kind of give you a rough score and then they say, "Okay, you're moving forward and you need to do more work." And that deadline is is August 1, I think, or August 15. And then they they they tell everybody else who's down in this next trench, you know, be ready because you may move up if somebody moves out. So there there's that kind of jockeying going on. But well, you make a motion and say we'll do it if it's under set amount or I I don't know what a set reasonable set amount would be since I'm not

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Well, that parks grant was pretty complicated. It was $7,500. The initial one though, what you're saying is that initial one he he's saying would take 20 minutes and then we would know very quickly, right? And then we can do another motion to continue. Is that what

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they'll take? They'll take everybody they'll take everybody who has who has put the numbers in and they'll fly them and they'll see how far they go with the money they have allocated and based on the requests from the people. So they'll know if they get to number wherever we fall 43 out of 700 or or you know 60 or what whatever the number is. And then they'll they'll know how far down the list they're going to get. Then they're going to email you and say, "Okay, you need to be prepared to move forward into the next step. Therefore, you're going to put more work into it." Yes. Not to exceed 500. Do not to exceed 500. And then if we make it to the next level, we can do another motion, right?

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Okay. Yes. Lori, if you make the motion, I mean, number one, I'm glad they second it, but um I don't think I would limit it to 500 just in case the costs do go up a little bit on time. I think I would consider saying either a,000 or 2,000 and leaving it at that. Okay. But but y'all are good with that. I'm good with that. All right. And I make a motion that we check into or we solicit Jake, what's his last name? Adams. McAdams to help us with the historical downtown grant. Uh not to exceed $2,000.

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I'll second that. Second by council member Renie. All in favor? 40 passes. Okay, here's an interesting one. Discussion, consideration, and possible action regarding the needs of the historical buildings at Heritage Park. Okay, this was me, too. And Susan didn't know she needed to sign up. So, Susan's

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Susan's gonna share with us. Um the buildings that are at Heritage Park are in need of some restoration and Carver always also has a suggestion so she needs to be able to speak on this but Susan's here just to share the concerns right Susan. Yes heard um pictures are worth a thousand words

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and Susan you got to say your name and address and all that and tell them what you're over too. Okay, my name is Susan Bruce. Um, I live at 1113 County Road 418 actually out in Nemo. And um, okay. And your title. Okay. And I am on the historic commission. Okay. For the county.

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For the county. All right. Uh it's required by law that our county has a state, you know, historic county historic commission. Our historic commissioner, actually the one that originally did Heritage Park. Okay. Uh back when Helen Kerwin, I believe, was heading it up. Okay. So, the other day I happened to go by there and I was killing time, eating lunch because I didn't have time to go home. And um I thought, oh, I'll walk around look at all the houses. And when I did, I was pretty shocked at the state of disrepair they were in. So this kind So I thought, "Oh, I'm gonna take pictures and go take this to the historic commission and uh show them how bad these are." Okay. So this is the telephone house at the maze. I actually found actually donated uh uh where the first telephone company was. And you can see from the window there that um not only are they rotten, but there's big gaps in doors and windows that are allowing critters or whatever else to get into those buildings. Okay. Um another window siding. Uh you know, they all need to be painted, sided, you know, uh and the longer we wait, the higher the damage is going to uh occur to them. uh eventually. Sorry. This is the building that um is at the very back in the bottom. I think it's called the cleaner building. And um I was real shocked to find out it doesn't even have any windows. They've all been knocked out. And so they just stuck painted black plywood back behind them. I've been told actually the inside's in actually pretty good shape. Uh but uh it

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it's still really it it's pretty sad. A lot of junk piled behind stuff like that. Uh Lena Schoolhouse. Uh the stairs are pretty bad, but a lot of the siding has rotted out. Uh, I believe this is a door uh where uh you can see the lot and stuff, windows, things like that. This is the one that concerned me the most because it's probably the one that attracts kids the most and that's the log cabin. And the whole porch has collapsed. It's you can't tell very good from this picture, but the underneath part's rotted and so the porch has dropped down. A lot of the boards are rotten. Uh I know a lot of people go there to have photos, you know, family portraits and stuff made, but it's really to the point now where it's pretty almost a danger that somebody's going to get hurt on it. You know, the city's probably going to be You can kind of see the rot and stuff on the porch. This is the far house. It's the only building in this park that's actually still in its original position. It's had a lot more renovation. Uh but I was told it was probably 30 years ago that any renovation was done to it. And um there is starting to be some some damage and stuff to it. You know, it's one of those where if we got to it quick enough, it could keep it from getting to the point where especially the others were. Uh but you know, there's a little bit of you know, of the foundation cracking. There's um you know, places rains and stuff can get underneath, but um start of the porch is starting to get a little bit few of the windows are

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starting. Okay. And anyway, that's what uh I just wanted to show y'all. you know, and I know that y'all just recently kind of acquired the whole thing and the whole problem. Uh, talking to well, I first said something to Lori and I'm talking to Ann. There are some grants out there. Uh, one Ann brought up was the T-Mobile grant that for historic buildings and the city, the county historic commission and ANSA, the Summerville History Foundation can all three apply for that grant and all three get that grant possibly. Uh, I believe it's $50,000 uh for each one. It is a a match, but um there's also she said it can be in kind also. And so um and then the historic commission would also like to get that far house designated as with a state historical marker. Uh there is a little bit of cost involved with that mainly just to pay for the marker. Um but uh in this town in the city we we have very few houses that are actually state historical marked which is ridiculous. like Dorothy Gibbs, Charles Bernard's house has not even got a state designation on it. And uh the uh museum is one we've already decided we're going to get done this year. It was built in 1902. Uh one of the first ones rebuilt after uh the tornado destroyed everything. But um our kind of goal is the on the historic commission because I'm just now figuring out what we're supposed to be doing that hasn't been being done and uh and we really want to work with the city with getting a lot of this stuff done. Yeah. So anyway,

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it's it's a great cause. During Christmas, Jim Holder and I went into a couple of the buildings and it's not just disrepair on the outside on some of them. Um, I think this is a great opportunity for a community to come together, businesses to donate materials, people come to paint. I think we can do some things. The city isn't the answer all the time. Oh, I know. But I think if we had a group of people, maybe Ann and yourself and some others try to pull Come on, Ann. Don't shake your head. But I was just I apolog I was going to say that there for the log cabin preservation Texas has a log cabin grant. Well, we need to get together in a little committee and discuss all those apply for them.

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So, we've already the three of us have talked and we for sure are going to get together. When Susan and I first talked about this, Susan, we we didn't know about the grant. So, we're bringing the problem, but we're trying to find a solution. So, I just wanted to bring it to council so y'all know that we're going to work on this and work on each segment trying to get what money we can for this project. I think it's great.

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And and um the the grants fixing to come up. We don't know exactly what date, but we need to have a plan in place with the city, the county, you know, and the history foundation all planning it together so that once it's turned in, we So, it's mainly just to let y'all know. Can I ask question? Do you have to present this to the county to get them on board or you're able to represent because of your Well, we don't have any money. We need 2500 whole dollars a year. So, um that's your budget. Yes. But um but that doesn't mean I can't go back and ask.

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Okay. Well, there there's some responsibility that shifted with that. I have my my question pertains to that because during that agreement they were very specific on those buildings over there and I don't remember what the exact language is on those buildings. So that's something we need to look into. Maybe we need to present to them uh what we're doing and and where we're headed. Uh that way we don't want to get caught up at the end and then be like oh well in this I have to do a presentation every year for them and so um I can take whatever I need to to it. But you're saying that when that when it you need to read the print of the of the agreement, there's something in there.

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Those they were very that almost the deal almost didn't happen because of those buildings on their end because those buildings were donated to Sville County and now they're owned by you know how it is out there. Yeah, there's a lot. So, we just need to watch that and and we need to make sure we're not asking all these people to dump money into it. We just need everybody to We need everybody to work together to make sure it gets done because they're going to fall apart if we don't get Okay, Laura, great job. I think you start moving ahead with it. I support it. I support it, too. I'm just giving my two cents. So,

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is that something you could look into or Susan about what the verbiage is? And then the other question is is if the county if we are successful and we get three pieces of this grant you know because you've worked on this grant does the county have to approve the money you I think the grant commission

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the when when the grant goes in the way we're going to do it is it's an inind grant it's a matching and an inind grant so therefore like I did with the other grants when I wrote the grant my fee was an inind behind. So that took a portion of it and all. We'll have to work it through it. We'll do it through budget with the county on that part. The there are t we can get this fixed. The problem is that the the county neglected it, the city neglected it, the county neglect. I mean it went back and forth because y'all all know that history. And so once the buildings are up and running, they will be fine. And um Susan sits on the county commission, I sit on the city commission. It's on our agenda for the 17th, those buildings, too, because we were already working on them when all of this was transpiring. So, between the three of us, Lori, myself, and um Susan, we will get a plan of action together. We'll come back with it, and then we'll see because the grant isn't open. T-Mobile grant has not opened again for the second quarter. So, that's what we're shooting for. be ready to fire on them.

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That's why you want to have I know you ladies will. Yeah. Veronica just has to pull the agreement, give the verbiage. Okay. To you, if you'll send me that, then I'll have it when we meet. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Susan. Appreciate it.

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Okay. Number 12, discussion, consideration, possible action regarding the placement of the Lambert in one of the city- owned parks. Stuart, what do you want to talk about here? Well, this is what uh Miss Collier came and talked about last month, and I didn't know if y'all are interested in put it out at the park or not. I don't It's It's what she presented last month. We all got the picture of it. You walk and you you breathe in and you pray. I think we at some point should discuss the location whether I think Heritage Park is the likely I mean, I don't know. I'm not speaking for everyone, but we've got a lot of plans and some limitations with our grant at this the the complex. So, we'd have to consider that in addition to So, um then let's just find a place and when she finds a place for it, we'll bring it back with the location and if we decide to do it, we decide to do it.

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Yeah. We'll go over and take a look. See where Mike Yeah. I don't even know what I mean. Do we have any idea how large this thing is? Well, you can walk through it. So, I would imagine it's it's got to be a probably a minimum of a 10 foot diameter.

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It's probably I think last month she said it's like $5,000 piece of art and that she just wants to donate and and have there. And if it gets tore up, when it gets tore up, it gets tore up, you know. So, it's not something that we have to be responsible for in the end. And you know, when she first brought it, I was talking to her about vandalism to it. And you know, I mean, we can't stop that. So, we can't like, would it be nice to have there and we get a month use out of it? You know, I don't know how how much useful we'll get out of it. Same else we got.

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Well, let's just I mean, if y'all are okay, let's just move forward. I'll tell her, "Hey, we're still game, but go find where you want." Let's go look at some spots and we'll consider where it might fit and we'll go out and look at it first and then go from there. So, we'll consider location. 13. Discussion consideration possible action directing Bearstep to submit a motion to intervene on behalf of the city of Glenrose in the newly formed GRSC RPC and dinosaur longshore 765 kilowatt transmission line docket number 59315. That's the new docket number.

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Yes, sir. Yeah. So, um I've been in conversation with our attorneys picker staff. They were actually listening in today. There was a um preliminary hearing about uh just kind of timelines and who was going to be granted as an intervenor. Um and uh I if if you're interested, I can pull up the email that they sent me about 3:30. uh they the meeting the hearing was still going on, but the gist of it is we have until the 23rd of this month uh to make a request to be an intervenor. We're not guaranteed to be an intervenor. Uh, and then if we wanted to offer any expert testimony, we could, but without being considered an intervenor by the ALJ, we would not be able to offer anything except continuing to fill the docket with our comments and our um and our words and our and the impact to the community. I feel like we we need to um I feel like we need to move forward and make an effort to be considered an intervenor in the docket because what we don't know is what some of the other um cities that are going to be impacted by the other routes, the other links um if they are going to be intervening and they will be advocating for a route that would maybe include the A3 segment because right now the best meets segment, route number 552 is not an A3 inclusive route. We know the switch is going to be north of town. There's two ways in out of it. You know, north and south. So, right now the A2 link is the the best meets link. And as

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I said in the email, there's 130 routes. 62 of those routes contain the A3 link. Um, so we are in jeopardy of having a route being proposed by the ALJ and I the administrative law judge in putting forth the route that could be impacting us. Uh there's no guarantee that that they will follow the PUC would follow the recommendation of the ALJ but they generally do. So this is kind of the timeline. In 180 days, they have to do the discovery, the hearing on the merits, the post-hering briefings, the judge's proposal for decision, written responses to that PFD, and then a PUC final decision before August 17th. So if we're not on the train, we're watching it go down the spaceship.

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Let me ask you a question. Has bigger staff uh connected with the other law firm by the land owners? No, sir. because they were filing for this. I believe they were they were as well. That's correct. Do we want the more we need the more chance most chances we can Well, they're only going to give you one. Well, they're separate people. They're they're they're asking as as individual property owners. We're going to be asking as the city. No, they're not because property owners won't be allowed. My understanding the property owner will not be allowed to intervene. They know their issue. that yeah they they're they're gonna have to they're gonna have to make the case that that that they are well

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an affected property owner. Where do we stand moneywise here? Is that what you're asking? Yeah. I mean, so we've spent uh Veronica, we paid him $4,300. Uh she has actually not sent me an invoice yet. Okay. So then we allocated 15,000.

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I thought it was 10. 10 a 10 plus we had we had two from another agency and one from a third from a from a second. So we have 13 roughly to kind of keep our powder dry and then my intention is if it if it goes beyond that then we need to ask the county to kind of walk along with us. I think they would be favorable to it. I would like for them to at least visit with the landowner's attorney just to see what we can do. Can we do two interventions? I mean,

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yeah, I I know you I I say I believe that you can uh but would have to find out who their attorney is and have bicker staff interact with them and find out what they are they've connected before what they are going to be. Yeah. What's the basis of their request for intervention? We know what ours is. It's it's the impact upon the community. It's the hotel tax. It's our sales tax. It's our viewership. And it's the golden cheek wobbler, right? Those are our and

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that's our bullets in the I bet with that law firm. And I know that the land owner is not priority because they know their issue, value, land, property. Uh the issues they want to hear are just what you mentioned. That's right. and they were going to go down that course and we need to just put them together and say, "Hey, tell us what we need to do." I if if they can if they can if they can get it. It's hard. It's hard to be granted an intervenor status. There's no guarantee that we will be, but if we don't ask, we'll we'll never Yeah. We'll never be at the table. We have to ask. I just want to be coordinated with both. Sure. 100%. Yeah. We can we can I can put them in contact with the two.

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Okay. I can give you the the other attorney's name and let's do that. We still have a lot of money on the till there. So yeah, we keep moving forward. So ask for the in coordination with the other land. Yes. And if we can do multiple each one of them request because we're not on the tail for the other ones, but yeah, I think it it's a must. So is that a staff direction or a motion? We already have direction, don't we? No. Okay. because we've already we've already had to allow the money. No, we need a motion. We Yeah, we need we need a motion different number now. Uh this is the docket number 59315.

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Changed it. This is that's the new one. The other one started with a three. Yeah. Yeah. This is this is the docket number they're working under. This is what they make. I move to direct bigger steps minimum motion to intervene on behalf of city of Glenrose and the newly formed GRCPC and dinosaur long shore 765 KV transmission line ducket number 59315 in conjunction with the other well we'll just coordinate that we'll just get this approved and then second we have a motion sir I will I'll second it. Sure.

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Second by council member Freeze. All in favor? Well, I thought you were going to make it to begin with. 40 passes. I just want to see the project get done. 14. Discussion, consideration of possible action regarding a consumer price index adjustment to municipal telecommunications right away access line rates. I make a motion to table this. Yeah. No action. It's a tricky way to do it, right? It is. But if we don't respond by 30th, it doesn't matter. There's a deadline.

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Okay. the line. So, so we get the we get 1.165 uh 1.1157 increase the on the CPI. So for for everybody's kind of telephone and other but you have to you have to take no action to accept the increase which is ridiculous. Okay. I didn't realize that. So, what do we do with this table? I would personally rather just table it or we can just I mean because we don't need to

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if we want if we want the increase in revenue, we take no action. Well, that that's it was the proposed rate increase if you want to. It's a CPI. There's no control over it. Or you can do the con. Well, yeah. Yeah, but that's the thing. You can do that. Or you can propose your own ring. I love that idea. Yeah. I'll make a motion to table the item. I'll take no action.

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Second. Second by Mayor Pro Tim man. All in favor? Whatever we're voting on 40 passes. Okay. Please. Council consent agenda. All consent agenda items are considered routine by the city council and the mayor and will be enacted one by one on one motion. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless a council member requests an item to be removed and considered separately. We have considered separately. Members, I move to accept the consent agenda item as presented. 15 16 17 18. We have a motion. Second.

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Second by council member Bruning. All in favor? 40 pass. Staff reports will have three minutes.

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Uh public works is not going to be presented tonight. All I have thoughts for Mr. Jim Holder. Please. Please. Chief, do you have anything for us? I do not. Any questions, council member? for security.

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8:45 is the new start number. Sorry. 8:45. That's when the rain's going to It's the hell they say is going to come. H I L. Bye. Bye. Thank you. Thank you, Chief. Thank you. Um, building and planning department report. Any questions?

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Stuart, you look like you got a question. I ask I want to get a little clear indication of interpret the word interpretation. Okay. Later on, not tonight. I'll look it up in Webster. Any questions? Anything going on we need to know about? Anything new? Anything big? Walmart? Well, I wish you say that too loud. HB.

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Okay. Council, anything? All right, David, you must be doing all right. Good job. Hello, Steve City Council. Go ahead, CBB director.

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Uh, yes. Well, my report this month came in two parts. Part one was already in your packet and it was just outlined the the projects that we're working on, but the second part is on your desk. So, I did just want to draw your attention to u it has the hot tax report on front. Yes. There you go. There you go. Okay. So, on the back of that is the Glen Rose map. That is a rough draft. I would appreciate your eyes on it. Yes. It's very tiny. You need a magnifying glass, don't you?

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Um, we're planning on printing it uh about about this big. I don't know what this is. Um, so please we want your opinion about uh what is inaccurate or what would you like to see on it? A couple more updates. Um, March 14th, this Saturday from 8 to 10, our committee um that is the pedal party I think. Yeah, I figured if I called it a party I am. I'd love to be a petal party.

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We're having a petal party. Bring your gardening gloves. We're going to plant flowers. 8 a.m. 8 a.m. 8 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. Be here or be We're finished. I'll be there when I get done. Men's breakfast. Okay. Okay. Bring your men's breakfast. Bring your men's people breakfast down. Yeah. Buy donuts. How many men are pregnant? The more men we have, the more plants. I'll check on Okay, I like that. We do have landscapers. Oh, good story.

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Uh, okay. Also, things to note though, I just I just want to Hi, Candace. Um, just want to remind you about a some important dates. March 27th and 28th is the wine and arts festival. And of course on March 28th, we want you to be in attendance at our open house at the Lane Memorial Building and the uh 100 incorporation celebration and of course the free concert on March 28th. Uh you don't want to miss that. That's Cter Gro and the Tahos Brothers. Okay. Also another thing to put on your calendar. It's a little bit ahead. May 19th, um, the city of Glenrose day is going to be at the Cleburn Railroaders. I think you guys did that last year. So, mark your calendars for May 19th for that. And then the last thing is uh the Plexi Music Festival is May 22nd and 23rd. So, just mark your calendars for that.

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What's the Plexi Music Festival? That's Kevin Fowler, folks. pretty decent pretty decent act is May 2nd is the MS bike. Did you email all those dates because I couldn't type in my phone fast enough? Yes. In fact, they're on the website.

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They are. Okay. So, I do want to point this out. So, on our new website, we have it says event. Yes, please go there, explore glenrose.com. There's an events button right up there at the top and there's an events calendar and guys, we pour so much love and energy into that calendar and it is up to the minute accurate. So, if you want to know what's going on this weekend, for example, or tonight, look there. Also, subscribe to her newsletter. Yes, please subscribe to the newsletter. Also, I want to say the real y'all did recently about these dates was excellent. It's good.

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Keep going. Keep pushing that stuff out. It was really good. When you were in No, the one that went out today. Wow. Oh, I haven't seen today. It's really good. Yes, I've enjoyed your your videos. Thank you. Okay. City Secretary, anything? Uh, no. Any questions? I haven't looked at your stuff yet. Oh, great. Thanks, Bri. Um, I'll just I mean his name's on the board out there, but David's birthday is coming up. So, everybody wish him happy birthday. March 17th. Did you say happy birthday? Mine's April 14th.

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Don't tell anybody it's your birthday. They're pretty around. That's all. Well, I won't announce that.

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I love that. Okay, we're going to move into executive session in accordance with provisions for Texas Open Meetings Law Subchapter D Government Code Bernance Texas codes annotated in accordance with executive session section 551071 consulting with an attorney interlocal agreements. We are scratching that from the agenda. There'll be no interlocal agreement discussion. Section 551074 personnel matters uh accounting and compliance coordinator and deputy city secretary discussions we will cover that executive session section 551071 consult consultation with an attorney regarding the Glen Hotel. So we will close the open session meeting and go into executive session as of 7:48 p.m. We have landscapers coming Friday to help with the dirt in Saturday those guys are coming back to help put all the flowers And then we're gonna get too

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I parked my 10y old truck under protection. There you be parking those city trucks somewhere.

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There's two of those. Awesome. Do we ever go back on whenever we come back from executive right now? Because I never see it on the videos.

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Okay. We uh we'll go back into regular session at 8:12 p.m. Uh we're going to consider a couple of actions. One on um Item number 30, we're going to direct staff Veronica to move forward with the CVB and Tracy to uh look at the new position, consider people, put out a uh a job post for this position and item number 31. Uh no action to be taken on that. So with that, council, anybody have any comments? Anything they'd like to say?

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Can I just briefly, very briefly,

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uh the mayor and I met today with the Texas Parks and Wildlife lady. We've got some hard deadlines coming up of April 15th that we are going to have to have a site plan with some um with some cost assessments and a firm um parks plan, a firm parks plan. But we can adopt the chapter of our comprehensive plan as our parks plan and maybe add a few things to it so that we could have a parks plan. And then there is a there is a second grant that opens up in May for small communities where we could possibly if we did a phase two we could actually put in a splash pad as a piece of so TDLR is going to require some accessibility and if we come off of that accessibility with a clear phase two we could maybe apply for a grant that could be a splash pad um type environment right there headed towards where the pickle ball courts are going to be. So anyway, we uh we we had a good meeting with them. They gave us some good headlines, some good ideas, and uh told them that we had officially changed the name of the park. So the new name of the park is going to be on all the paperwork going forward, the application of National Park Service, the the request to the core of engineers for any studies. So, it's uh moving down the road, but we've got to we need to maybe make a road trip to Nolanville outside of Belton because she had done four phases for a park down there.

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George, has a committee been set up or looked at for Did y'all get an email from somebody asking to be on the park? Yeah, we've taken we've taken a couple of names that I know of and we just need to we just need to get together and try to flesh out. Tara Baby wants to be on there. She told her this week. Yeah. So, we have Tara, Valerie, and Kim. Those are the three I'm aware of. What's the last name? William McDonald. Spikes. I've gotten one email. Oh, so they like you more than they like us. Okay, we can talk about this. But we're we're well on our way. Thank you.

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So, I want to make one comment. Oh, yeah. There was a time when Stuart came and tried to replace got beat out by Candace replace a a council member. I went and I saw Stuart crying on a curb and I went up to him. I said, "Don't give up. Keep going. You'd be good for this." Okay. You've done a great job. Let's get off the record. No, he's done a great job. It is a good job and we wish him all the best as county.

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Yeah, you guys are awesome. Hey, Tracy. I got three ideas. I love that. Thank you guys. What a great meeting. Thank you. What a great meeting. Thank you so much.

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He might have he went and talked to Aubrienne and she goes,

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