Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Indiana. Although I went to Horseman High School, you have to love the history, not just in [music] the city of Gary, but throughout the country. I want you guys to see the amount of work and attention that we're putting into this facility. We're here today at Roosevelt and this is one of what I think six or seven right mayor of projects that are called the jewel parks around the entire city that we're working on and fixing parking lots and tennis courts and basketball courts and baseball fields. So, it's it's citywide and this is the first one. We wanted to get this done very quickly for mayor and his team because there's a big celebration here obviously coming up. But again, we absolutely thrive on being part of this city. There's nothing that me personally I love more in my life under my family is this city and the opportunity to be able to be here and give back to the place that I love so much.

And he's from Edna. That's right. Got to be known. Edna 13th and Edna Street.

Got Edna boy right here. investing in the parking lots, in the tennis courts, in the basketball courts, beautifying this entire area right here in the Midtown area in the city of Gary. This is just a start, folks. Today, we're not just breaking ground on a building. We're breaking ground and hope, opportunity, and truly transformation. The Talison Opportunity Campus will be more than a facility. It will be a space for our youth, a wellness hub for our families, and the support system for tomorrow.

So, this will be the brand new lobby, uh, reception area, uh, new coffee shop in this corner over here. That area underneath there is all the new Methodist health space. Right here, we'll have another main stairway coming up so that you can go up to here where we're going to have like the workout area that will then lead into a track that will go around the gym overlooking the gym downwards.

Hey, what's up everyone? This is Mayor Eddie Melson right here in the great city of Gary, Indiana. And I am truly excited to be on the site of the new YMCA that is built right here on the Talison [music] campus in the city of Gary. And right now we're coming through detailing all the steel, finishing up all of our welded connections. After you jump the next foundation line, um looking at the three basketball courts are going to be right through here. Would you join in the in the fun? I'm not going to play basketball. So today we're going to tour the site. It's an honor and a pleasure to just talk with the leaders that's on this project with Powers and Sun Construction, Bergland Construction, and the entire team.

I am Powers with Powers and Suns Construction. We're excited to be here at the new YMCA at Paliston in Gary, Indiana. I grew up just blocks away from here. So, it's just amazing to see uh [music] and so proud of the investment that the YMCA Boys and Girls Club and Methodist Hospitals are putting into our community. Uh this is going to be great for the city of Gary uh and great for the the local neighborhood. I am Alex Morowski, project manager for Bergland Construction. Uh lead project manager on the Talist operation or Talist Opportunity Campus. Um really excited to have Mayor Melton out here with us today. Uh really getting able to look at this new expansion and all the new [music] scope that we've got out here from the new basketball hoops uh to the new pools getting dug, the new steel structure that's coming out out here. And we are uh all really excited. the biggest thing that we're excited about and why we love [music] construction so much is being able to finish things up and see the final product that's out here. Um, so that's really what we're looking forward to is working through scope and in the end here being able to see how this impacts the community for years to come. Uh, getting the kids involved out here and really becoming a part of the community has been a great opportunity for us. We want to thank the Boys and Girls Club, Methodist Hospitals, all of the nonprofit organizations that's being responsible for bringing this project together. So stay tuned. Hi, my name is Veronica Collins Ellis. I'm the executive director of the Gary Health Department and we are having our health fair, health and resource fair here at IUN [music] in the Savannah

parking lot. The services that we're providing are STI [music] testing, vaccines, cholesterol, hemoglobin testing. We are providing free dental services. [music] We have a plethora of other resources that you can come and check us out at. [music] We will try to do this every year to provide these services, but you can contact the Gary Health Department at 2198825565 [music] for additional services. Good morning. Welcome to the City of Gary Board of Zoning Appeals public meeting for Thursday, December 11th, 2025. Uh, I'll call this meeting to order. Roll call, please.

Mr. Faucet here. Mr. Sarah, here. Mr. Jones, here. Mr. Hawkins, here. With four members present, we have a quorum and we can conduct business today. Thank you very much. Uh first item of uh business is approval of minutes which were mailed out uh for our November 13th uh meeting. Mr. President, I move to uh approve the minutes from the November 13th meeting. I have

I before we do that I have a suggestion BZA 20 25-34 the address 4900 West 15th that should be east 15th that's the one where the cleaning place is just south side of the tow road and I will modify my motion to approve the minutes uh with the uh correction of east 15 versus West 15th. Thank you. I second it. Second.

It's been moved and second that we approve the minutes as presented with the adjustment for BZA 2025-34. The address change from 4900 West 15th Avenue to 4900 East 15th Avenue. Are there any questions? All those in favor? I have it. The meeting minutes roll call. [laughter] do rolls. All right. Mr. Faucet, yes. Mr. Sarah, yes. Mr. Jones, yes. Mr. Hawkins, yes. So, we'll show the minutes approved with the adjustment uh by a vote of four to zero. Okay. Uh how about Miss Martin? So, you had some comments.

Yes. I just wanted to give some um clarifying housekeeping rules. The purpose of this meeting is for us to hear petitions. Um there there is um the opportunity for you to speak if you're um against and or for but the conversation of your against or for is to the board. So not directly towards the petitioner. The petitioner is not required to answer the questions of the public. So there is not a back and forth dialogue. Your purpose is to prove or present should I say the information to the board so the board then can make the best decision based upon all the information presented here. So we want to make sure um that we don't direct anything towards the petitioner or the department but towards the board and the department is is me. So the questions will go directly towards the board because the board is the final decision um for every petition. Other than that um you can continue Mr. President

on that. Also one other housekeeping uh any public comment is limited to two minutes. We'll time it at the end of two minutes but ask that you please have wrapped up your comments by then. Thank you both. Uh the first item of sorry and it's also towards the board not the attorney. Um, attorney uh Molina, Attorney Molina is not going to give you um recommendations or any feedback either. Everything go towards these gentlemen here. Um, and we're just here presenting from um the departmental standpoint. So,

okay. Thank you very much. Our first item on business is BZA 2025-35. May we have the overview, please? Yeah. Um, so we have um Elaine Purdue. I'm pretty sure she's her husband is here in representation of her um in their their home. They're interested in doing a shortterm rental in a R2 residential district. Um I would like to ask them to for him to come up and give us an overview of your project. Um and just tell the board why you think that this would be um advantageous for this area.

If you can stand in front of the chair and uh face towards the camera. Y

Jordan Purdue. Like she said, nice to meet you all. Um my family and I have been coming up here um for about 10 15 years now. Love the area. been looking for a property for a long time. Finally found one um off of Oak Avenue. We really enjoy the area. We like Nor Beach. Um we have updated a lot of the home exterior that was kind of like let go and not maintained for a long period of time. Um we fixed up the inside. Um we plan on using it ourselves as well as having it as a short-term rental. Um more so for like and like family. But the short-term rental portion of it is just to kind of like help offset cost up front and what it was to purchase. So that's pretty much it. So the petitioner has um submitted all um respective documents, all mailings, all postings and um all documents including their findings of facts to the planning department, planning and zoning department and they have sufficiently um completed that process. um after the submission they were they did receive several um remmonstrations within the last two days two three days um so because the board doesn't have them I am required to read each one so first one is from Jason Walters he stated these comments are on behalf of me and my family we live at 8717 Pine Avenue in Gary Indiana. I, the homeowner, received a notice of public hearing, which I am not able to attend. The petitioner, Elaine Purdue of Indie

Dunes Property Group, LLC, seeks to operate a short-term rental at 8720 Oak Avenue. We are we are permanent residents and living with four within 400 ft of the property mentioned. We would like to express our concerns over yet another short-term rental property operating in our immediate zone. From our observation, short-term rental occupants care significantly less about our small special community than full-time residents. from caring for our unique environment to respecting our school and light pollution. There's a significant amount of short-term rentals properties in the Miller Beach community as it is, let alone in our immediate area. It would be nice to see an end to more short-term rentals and supporting the voice of those who live here day in and day out. Thank you very much for taking the time to read our experience slashperspective with respect and care for Miller Beach Jason Walters and family. Next we have Nancy Cohen. There is a hearing on December 11th, 2025 at 11:00 a.m. I am a resident within 400 ft of the proposed variance from zoning ordinance. I am voicing my opinion for my residents at 8641 Pine Avenue. My name is Nancy Cohen. I am against such a variance being granted to 8720 Oak Avenue in Dunes Property LLC. We already have two such BNBs on Pine Avenue and now Oak Avenue. We use a small deed alley to access our property garage parking space. Repairs to the alley are non-existent and more damage

will not be will not be doubt come from the traffic to and from to end of the alley where house is located. The neighborhood would change from not full-time resident but people here for short stay to party often without regard to the local permanent resident. Please take into consideration of the long-term residents who are not on board for this change. Next we have Tenise Flois Flootus to the Garry zoning administrator. I am writing to voice my objection to the petition variance of 8720 Oak Avenue in Miller section of Gary 46403. This petition is especially disturbing as it is being initiated by an LLC rather than the owner who live 3 hours away and have bragged that they want to make tons of money from the potential Airbnb property. As an important side note, the official zoning letter was just delivered on December 9th, only two days before the hearing, scheduled for December 11th at 11:00 a.m. As a result, most of our neighbors have have previous commitments and cannot be in there in person, and thus we are emailing our concerns. I live at 8608 Oak Avenue on the alley between Oak and Pine where Airbnb clients would often be traveling to get to and from 8720 Oak Avenue. Whether they are going to the grocery store or walking to the beach, this alley should not be used as a thoroughfare as there is no outlet and it ends where the 8720 property is located. Most full-time resident of Oak and Pine enter their parking areas on the steep alley, not below on the street. Many of our residents are in

their 70s or more with only two couples being a bit younger. [clears throat] The majority of us have resided here full-time for decades, and we have found that nearby Airbnb guests, there are already two Airbnbs, by the way, have little respect for Miller residents. often playing loud music, yelling and setting off illegal fireworks at all hours of the night regardless of the time of year. I am a year-round resident who lived here for 26 years and my neighbor who lived near 8720 Oak have lived here for over 40 years. We have experienced our neighborhood changing from the worst as a result. So many Airbnbs popping up with their guests having no regard for our neighborhood and its residents. The proposed short-term rental will contribute to an erosion of our community as well as increased wear and tear on the alley that is already full of potholes. In short, I strongly object to the variance petitioned for at this hearing and most of my Oak Pine Alley neighbors do too. And all of us will be affected by increased ingress and egress from our neighboring alley as well as negatively impacted by increased noise and party people traffic in our neighborhood. Please consider our concerns as long-term residents in the neighborhood and deny this variance petition respectfully to Nice Flo Flores. Next we have Emily Lipos. Dear members of the board of zoning and appeals, I am unable to attend a public hearing, but I want the board to know that I am against the granting of a variance to allow short-term rental business managed by an LLC at 8720 Oak Avenue. I live diagonally across the alley from 8720

Oak Avenue at 8733 Pine Avenue. Since 8720 is primarily accessible from the pine alley, it will have huge impact on our small close-knit oak pine alley neighborhood. As others will have pointed out, the [snorts] house are the houses are close together. Sounds traveled, especially down a narrow alley. This couldn't handle the traffic from this rental. of approved one.

8720 would be the third short-term rental in one short block of Pine Avenue. There is a fourth one directly opposite on Oak and Fifth, one nearby on Maple. That's too many for such a tiny area. The Church of Rentals [snorts] make no contribution to our communities. It it takes advantage of the services we as homeowners support and generally show disregard for the quality of life and parameters of the neighborhood. Please do not grant this variance. I hope that the near future Miller size Gary will formalize a short-term rental policy as many other communities and cities have done the w this would inform and protect the involved parties and protect our neighborhood. Respectfully, Emily Lipchious and Samuel P. Pillsbury, 8733 Pine Avenue, Gary, Miller Beach, Indiana 46403. Dear Gary, zoning administrator administration, I am writing to strongly, sorry, this is from K. Patter Patterson. Dear Gary Zoning Administration, I'm writing to strongly against the variance petition for 8720 Oak Avenue, Gary, Indiana 46403 because of the negative impact that it will have on our residential block in our Miller Beach community. Our community is comprised of long-term year-round residents, many who are retired and many who are elderly. We live on a quiet deadend alley. The address of the affformentioned petition is located at the end of our alley. This alley is our main thoroughfare to our home. A short-term rental will greatly increase traffic and noise while inviting a variety of renters to our already compromised road and neighborhood. Currently, there are five

short-term rentals within walking distance in our immediate neighborhood. I have noticed when renters arrive, the noise goes up, the foot traffic increase, and the trash bins are overflowing, the beach trash increased, and there's little consideration or respect given to the long-term yearround residents. For these reasons, I strongly object to the variance petitioned for 8720 Oak Avenue. Thank you for your time, Kimberly Patterson, 8626 Oak Avenue, Gary, Indiana. Lastly, we have Terry Puit. Terry Puit, 8620 Oak Avenue, Gary, Indiana 46403. Dear zoning office, I profusely object to the new owner turning the resident at 8720 Oak Avenue into a Airbnb. First of all, I wouldn't want the noise and additional traffic that accompanied an Airbnb. We live in a congested area already. There is insufficient parking for additional cars other than one. There are vacant private property lots but on the side of 8720 [clears throat] and also in front of my house 8620 that should be used for parking. I don't believe that it is in the best interest of the community to allow the property to be used as an Airbnb. [snorts] We currently have valuable lake use. The addition of Airbnb would greatly diminish both our peaceful as well as our property values. I am I ask that you not allow the conversion of conversion [snorts] of this struct this structure I believe to be Airbnb and in instead for long-term rental one year sincerely Terry Puit 8620 Oak Avenue Gary Indiana 46403

those are your um remmonisters for this petition. Now, I will give you um the P the zoning department's report. As stated before, the petitioner is requesting special use to operate a short-term rental within an existing single family dwelling at 8720 Oak Avenue. The property is located within a R2 residential district which is cons consists pro which consists predominantly of long-term owner occupied residents. Short-term rentals are not permitted by right but only by special use approval prior to operation. The structure will remain a dwelling with no proposed exterior changes. However, short-term use introduced a transit occupancy and increased turnover which has raised concerns among nearby residents regarding noise, parking congestion and the impact to neighborhood. Um, a full property inspection was conducted in this year and it identified several deficiencies and compatible with transit lodging including electrical hazards, plumbing leaks, foundational cracks, missing carbon and smoke detectors and other life safety risks. These deficiencies must be corrected before any decision is to be made. The zoning and planning the planning and zoning department recommends an unfavorable recommend recommendation due to the evidence presented today and their um inspection but as well as um taking into consideration the public the concerns and the um health safety and general welfare of that structure and its impact to the people that will be inhabiting it. One of the main issue is it for the uh planning department is the egress of the lower area. Based upon the

drawings that is identified as um a potential place for three rooms for three people to live or for the short term. However, it doesn't have efficient uh egress. There is no exit and there's no way to escape which is the main thing the basement area. Um so for that matter that area should not be uh rental for sleeping and things of that nature maybe recreation. Um our another major concern which was uh presented to us by our city um building inspector is that the electrical boxing is outdated, overused and cause a severe risk and uses more watts than um that are identified in the um report. Um due to all of those concerns, um we recommend that uh unfavorable recommendation.

Thank you, Dr. Martin. Um at this point, is there anyone in the audience that would like to speak for or against the ZA 2025-35? Hello. Just stand up here, please, and face the back. We're going to we're going to videotape your name and address. And if you could state your name and address. My name is Houston Thomas. I live at 1111 Pyramid Street in Gary, Indiana. What's that address again? 1111 Pyramid Drive, Gary, Indiana. Pyramid

4647. I rise against this petition because as has been previously stated that I there's only an alleyway to regress and access the property there. my son. I I represent my son because he had to go to work this morning and he his property is 8708 which is next door to the property there and we strongly would like you to deny this petition.

Thank you. Thank you. Is there anyone else uh in the audience that would like to speak for or against BZA 2025-35? Can I speak again? Yes, sir. Okay. I took notes.

Um I'm obviously in favor of it. Um, I've listened to all of what the neighbors and everyone had to say and we have addressed some of those issues already. Um, like I said, the stairs that were originally accessible down on Oak Avenue where there is three parking spots have never been maintained. So, we corrected that issue and got them back up to par. So, people don't have to park or even access the property via the alleyway um between Pine and Oak. they can park at the bottom of Oak Avenue and take the stairs to access the home. Um, [clears throat] some of the other items that got brought up as far as like the electrical, plumbing, foundation, smoke and carbon detectors, the rest of the basement, I've also taken that upon myself. I now have smoke alarms in every single room as well as on every single floor. We have carbon monoxide detectors. Um, the plumbing's been taken care of. The electrical panel even though it hasn't been replaced and just waiting for them to start to have that replaced and brought up to code because that was told when we bought the house that it was not code. So, we are working on getting that corrected as well. Um on our property itself, if they were to access via the alleyway, there is two parking spots if you park parallel in front of the home and one that goes next to the house um in like a little carport. So, you could get three cars up there without blocking the alleyway. it would not restrict flow from anyone or any of the city vehicles for trash or anything like that. Um, so I don't know if that would really be an issue. Um, we also, um, have thought about, you know, our neighbors as well and, um, to help with like parties and things like that because we obviously don't

want that either. We want to be respectful. We want to initiate like a minimum night stay to where you're not going to have someone rent it on a Friday night for a party and then leave the trash and they're going to be gone Saturday. We want to leave a minimum minimum night stay to help alleviate that that issue. Um we've also added um security cameras all around the exterior to help maintain that as well. So if ever anyone was to get unruly and someone felt comfortable either texting me or a property manager, we'll have that taken care of relatively [snorts] quickly. Um like I said, we really love this area. We've been coming here for a long time. Um, we respect this area, we respect the state park, we respect the beach, and we'll do everything that we can to make sure that anyone that stays at our place will do the same. So, thanks for having me. I appreciate it.

Is there anyone in the audience that would like to speak for or against BCA 2025-35? Is there anyone in the audience who would like to speak for or against BZA 2025-35? Is there anyone interested in speaking for or against BZA 2025-35? Hearing none, the public hearing portion is now closed. Mr. [clears throat] Mr. Uh, president, I would like to read um my recommendation um in the offset that the board does um choose to approve or move forward. Would that be all right at this time?

Yes, ma'am.

So, if the board chooses to grant approval, um staff recommends the following. All structural, electrical, mechanical, and plumbing deficiencies identified in inspection must be corrected by licensed professional prior to issuing short-term rentals with all permits and fees covered. Smoke and carbon um smoke and carbon oxide detectors must be installed on every level of the home. A parking operation management plan must be submitted to the PL planning department. Maximum capacity limited to six guests at a time. A local responsible agent must be available 247 within 30 minutes of the property. Annual inspections and renewals are required. The short-term rental permitted may be revoked upon two verified nuisance complaints. No expansion of the use of the use occupancy or change to rental configuration without additional BZA approval. Those are the recommendations if the board so decides to approve.

Thank you, Mr. President. I have a question for staff. Sure. We've heard we've [snorts] seen and heard the uh the unfavorable recommendations. Were there any favorable recommendations submitted by the neighbors or anyone else? Thank you. [snorts] Okay. I have a question for the petitioner. Could you come back to the podium, please? [clears throat] Uh, you mentioned that some of the concerns that were uh stated had been taken care of. Um, who did the work? Uh, we use a company out of Gary. I have their card in there. Um, my phone. Did they have a building permit?

They do. Yeah, they pulled they pulled all permits. They were licensed and bonded. Uh, they're recommended from someone at the city, I believe. Um, I have it allwhere. It's not here. Okay. Uh you mentioned that you're planning on installing cameras to uh observe the activity that's going on. Who's going to manage those cameras? Well, on the exterior, they uh record and save on SD cards, hard drives. So, they're access. And then they're also accessible via my mobile 24/7. Okay. If anyone was to call and I was at my home, I can pull it up on my mobile. They have speakers on them so I can say anything or hear everything. Um,

then I can be here in a hurry. We also do [snorts] plan to hire a property manager that is local um up here so someone can be over the property 10 15 minutes at emergency.

I also have a question for the uh petitioner. Um, so [snorts] we've saw I can we saw the stairs and um a lot of the foundational issues still exist. So my concern is the stairs are laying on um and this may be a Mr. Hawkins um question, but the stairs the foundation and there's cracked and the stairs the newer stairs are coming down onto that cracking foundation. Um, so I was wondering were you going to uh correct that even though the you know you already have the stairs there. So that's You mean the front stairs to the like the side door there?

Um cuz it's badly damaged the foundational area which was identified in the um inspection. So I just wanted to know how you were going to tackle that. I would have figured that it would have been before the stairs but maybe you have a plan. Uh, I guess we didn't get any um, so when we bought purchased the home, we did like a home inspection and we didn't get any reports about that area. So we that area has not been addressed. This is new to me. I didn't know that's what you were talking about. I thought you were talking about the main stairs that go down to Oak. My apologies. No, no, it's um I You mean the concrete stairs that are dilapitated? I think the old homeowner built like the new stairs over them and just kind of left that. So I actually we my father-in-law's here. We were going to over the summer remove all the old concrete and get that stuff out. I haven't had time to do that yet.

Okay. Um but it will it is being addressed. We were talking about two sets. Okay. Yeah. No problem. Are there any other questions or comments from the board? What's your pleasure? He has a question. Mr. President, go ahead. It seems like it's a lot of work that needs to be done with this place and yet you still kind of rent it out.

No, I' I've done a good majority of work since we purchased it in July. Um I'm [snorts] up here pretty much every other week, weekend, weeks on in trying to get it done. Um we also want to use this property and use it for our family and my children because we love coming up here. So it's also for us. Um, so it was a no-brainer that when this house came on the market, we wanted to own that and keep that in our family for a long time. Um, so that's why we're putting the work into it to maintain it and get it back up to par and keep it going. So you've been coming and seeing the property, you know, saw the steps and the delabricated. Uh,

no, I I knew about the front steps how um, but in our report when we bought it, I didn't get any reports of like that being an issue. So I addressed like in our report I got like the back stairs are completely dilapitated and a huge insurance risk and that needs to be done and there's no fire detectors. This needs to be done. So I I kind of went off the home buying inspection that we paid for when we bought the home off that. Nothing was mentioned about what she was saying below. The old homeowner basically the steps were like I'm assuming the lactate. I've not actually seen under it. And what she's done was she took like a what do you call it like the composite board decking and she built basically a composite board deck over the old stairs that are stairs. Um so it's still completely safe and usable. There's just broken concrete underneath it that I haven't removed at this time but it is pl I'm going to get it out of there.

And so the inspection scar Mr. President, the inspection that was submitted was the um the issues in that inspection. The Yeah, the home buying inspection. Yeah. When they brought things up on there, that's what I just tackled first. It Okay. So, you were aware of the problems u before you made application for the um variance. Variance.

Yes. I guess. And then we've been trying to address some. This is my first time ever doing this. I didn't know how any of this went or how long it takes or anything like that. So, we're just trying to kind of stay on top of the ball. We don't even plan to rent anything until probably this summer. So, it won't be on the market or anything to rent until this summer because we want to make sure everything is corrected, fixed, and up to code. I would like to amend my recommendation um to add that they have a new inspection to be completed on site if we so choose to um approve the said variance um to determine the level of um completion as well as an inspection once they completely pass. Uh, Marco, this is a recommendation for city council. Is that correct? Can you verify that?

Right. This is just the recommendation to city council. I told you that's good. I understand. Do you want me to make you want me to make motion? You make it. I'll second. I I have a question for you. Are you the one that's buying the property? It's me and my wife. Yes. Okay. Go ahead. Ready? Yes. She said, "What's your pleasure?" So, you ready? What's your pleasure? I'm sorry. [laughter] Thank you,

Mr. President. Uh based on the uh staff recommendation, uh the safety issues that have been uh listed and the overwhelming uh negative uh comments from uh the neighbors. Uh I move to deny this request. Unfavorable. I'm [snorts] uh unfavorable. UN unfavorable recommendation. I'll second the unfavorable. It has been moved and second that we accept the staff's recommendation of an unfavorable uh decision. Are there any questions? Hearing none. Roll call, please. Mr. Faucet, yes. Mr. Sarah, yes. Mr. Jones, yes. Mr. Hawkins, yes.

So, we'll show by a vote of four to zero. An unfavorable recommendation will be sent to the city council um for their final determination. Thank you. Is there any other business to be come before the board today? No, there is not. Uh, do you have any comments?

I do. So, as you all have um been participating in the new unified development um ordinance for the city is going to um plan commission next week. um we're looking to kind of move forward with that process with the document um going to council. So, we would like if anyone who has any questions and or concerns, the public or whomever wants to uh think we need to add additions or make corrections or just don't like it, the good, the bad. We want you guys to send your comments to um the zoning uh department and as well as planning department, whomever you choose. But we are excited about this plan. Um as you guys saw it, it is remarkable. It is a great change for uh the city. So we want to make sure that everybody has a um say so in what we do moving forward.

Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. I'll accept a motion to adjourn. So move. Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you. Know about this school. This is a historic school for the city. A lot of folks came from this park. I don't know if you remember Glenn Robinson.