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[Music] [Music] [Music] All right, welcome everybody to the regular Gul City Council meeting for December the 2nd, 2025. Can I have a roll call, please?

Vice Mayor Sandoo here. Council member Prattton here. Council member Reed here. Council member Rodriguez here. Mayor Farmer here. I guess I should call the meeting to order. So jumping out of it's not like I haven't done this before. All right. If everyone could please stand and join us for a silent prayer followed by a flex loop.

Salute. Pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Tina, can you please read our replay statement?

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All right. Thank you. Moved on to item B. Agenda approval, additions, and or deletions. We have anything from council? No. Okay. Move on to item D. Public comment. Gina,

under government code section 54954.3, members of the public may address the city council on non-aggenda items. The public comment section is for the city council to receive comments except for brief responses to questions. No discussion or action may be taken on any item that is not listed on the agenda. Please limit comments to a maximum of 5 minutes. Consistent with the city council procedural guidelines, the mayor reserves the right to shorten the time limit for speakers to ensure the efficient and timely completion of all city business on the agenda. Kenley,

good evening council. I'm Ken Lee currently living up base until they evict me. Basically, it seems that the free market has weeded out the three um phone companies representatives who were liars and cheaters. But it would be nice if the free market would require service businesses post their address of origin so they don't pretend to be a local business because some of them are pretending like the T-Mobile was pretending to be this local business that we have in in in Gulf and they weren't. They were from 50 miles away. Um, it would be nice if they could plan a senior resource event like they have the annual event in San Marin County where it brings all the resources and agencies together for the seniors. We had one in G here at the Sabola Center, but only 20 businesses showed up. But it brings seniors out from other areas, other towns, and $50 of space. It drives city revenue. Uh you know, Sanwaqen, they fill up about 300 spaces. Uh seniors get educated and resourced to agencies that they don't usually have time to go visit. And it would be nice if the Monday bingo at the Sabola Center could get funded to price more um gift cards. We used to get gift cards in every other game, but now we only get about one or two gift cards. It gives gives us a day out especially on the budget that we get off of social security. It also introduces us to new eeries and if we like it, we continue to go back and spend our money there. So, it's a win-win for everybody.

Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Lee. Uh, no more public comment on on agenda. All right, moving on to item E. Reports by city council members on regional boards, commissions, and committees. Start with Mr. Prattton. Nothing to report this month. All right. Didn't Did you go to the cast? Oh, I did. I was just going to cover it. I went to like 10 things this month. Okay. I was just going to do it all at the end. Oh, okay. I can I can report out on the cast one. I got it right here. I know I missed it. Thanks for reminding me. Yeah,

I just put it on that list. Um, not a lot to uh to uh report out. Cast um the cast meeting. Uh the one thing that stood out that I thought was interesting was the attendance is actually up at both school districts. So, I mean, that's a huge change from just our previous meeting where like how much?

It was looking it was looking rough. They didn't give us numbers. They just said they're up. I know that uh at the high school they're they're talking about, you know, having to hire new teachers probably for next year. So they they still have plenty of room, you know, to to grow, but but they're finally starting to not have to worry about letting teachers go. So So it's a it's a step in the right directions for both schools. Um putting in a new mural in the Eststerita school. Other than that, that's that was about it. All right. Easy. That's good news. Thank you, Vice Mayor Sandu.

You know, I'm going to report a few things. Uh one thing I attended November 13 uh with the CST uh meeting with the 2 by two two council member that was city manager was there uh chief was there uh we discuss uh uh same thing and especially fire chief uh he gives some kind of a broad thing you know how much area we cover and he that's why his report said CSD total covering 157 square miles, Elgrove 42.2 square miles, Elgrove 6.8 8 square miles and uninccorporated 108 square foot and the total 157 the total population Elgrove G and incorporate 240 14,821 and in that kind of population they recommended median rate how many persons We have the CSD they have 400 uh no 208 firefighter but current firefighter they have 195 so they are kind of 13 but the good news news is when we was narrowed down on the G and G population approximately that time when they make a report on 26,000 and they recommended median rate like in 25 personnel but we have a 30 firefighters. So the report showed we are very good on the personal wise and the other thing we you know discuss uh the other council

member uh Mr. Damn he have a lot of question on the I think he might be when his turn he might be explain better because they have very detail question to the answer and that's the next thing I attended the public safety meeting on November 24 and that was uh myself there was a uh three committee member and uh the chief was there and other people was there from the uh I think TJ was there and first thing TJ did the presentation on the noise ordinance and that's was a very detailed and I will ask the staff they might we give that uh presentation might we bring to the council so this kind of thing everybody you know sometime we say the dog is barking but there is no just bark you can complain you know there is some kind of but that's a detail same thing other noise ordinance uh the next thing we uh I think fire uh that uh our chief uh chief he give us like in police statistic till October 1st and I think he can bringing something whole to the council at the end of the year and And also uh chief explained about the drone program updated. This was approved by the council uh and as uh he explained uh to the public safety committee and also e by regulation approved by the council that's he also explained to this public safety meeting and that's all uh Mr.

Mayor. Thank you. All right. Thank you sir. Council member Reid.

Good evening. Uh I will piggy back off of what the vice mayor said. So yes, I did attend the 2 by two meeting with uh himself and the others that he um announced uh and it was to talk about uh the fire department and the ambulance uh responses here in G. And so I'll just give some highle numbers that they presented to us and it was a very it was a very good presentation that was very well thought out and it answered all almost all the questions that I had proposed to them. Uh but just so everybody knows that uh in G the consumous fire district ran 3,674 incences in 2425. 69% of them were medical calls. Of that 1,862 were transported to the hospital with by an ambulance. And of those 1862, 93 of those patients were transported to the hospital via an ambulance from El Grove. Uh the average response times for the fire engines are 5 minutes and 52 seconds. For the ambulances, it's 6 minutes and 10 seconds. Uh, and of those we've had 169 times that we had engines from El Grove into G uh to help assist us with things. The other thing that sparked my attention was uh the drastic decrease in what they call ambulance patient offload times. when the ambulance gets to the hospital and the amount of time that they have to wait to offload a patient into a bed for the hospital. Uh on average now it's 22 minutes where uh in the year 23 24 it was over an hour. So that's uh very beneficial to us and unfortunately at that time that Sacramento County was the worst in the state. So now they're on the the better end of that. Uh there were some other concerns that we had brought that I had brought up to them

and I'm addressing it with the board of director and and the chief. Uh the other thing I was going to talk about, excuse me, was the consumerist groundwater authority meeting which they're right at the end of their year. Uh they went through a financial audit. uh they found some issues that they're having to clean up and so they're going to uh they're they recommended renewing the audit contract that they have for the next three years and so that they can uh continue to figure or fix those problems that they had in their books. And that's all I got.

All right. Thank you, sir. Thanks for sharing the information. It's very interesting on the CSD. Miss Rodriguez.

So, I attended uh this SEIKOG board of director meeting on November 20th. Um it was actually really interesting. They we talked about that blueprint that they came to talk to us about and showed us a preliminary booklet that will be advertised basically and it just has each jurisdiction is listed in there and some of their projects that they're looking forward to. Some of them have projects that they completed. Um, right now it's pretty boring. It's just text, but they are going to add photos and then use it hopefully going places like Cap to Cap and um other other uh regional maybe industries that may be looking for this to come into this in uh into this region and maybe you know pick and choose a place to come and be. Um so it was pretty exciting. uh they did show us the photos that they were proposing and you know so I looked at the G ones they look pretty good so um so that was kind of exciting we did get a so as part of this we did get a report on our region and and I just want to remind everybody that our region goes we're the most southern part of course um and our region goes all the way up to um Sutter and how far does Siko Sutter be um up but all the way up there and then to the eastern border of California and I I don't know quite how far west we go but it does goes go so it's a pretty big region but for the region we were the fastest growing region in the state over the last year and a half we are the second highest we have the second highest housing costs in um medium uh say co in medium cogs like us across the nation.

Um, and we have the third highest rent across the nation. So, it was kind of just kind of an interesting to kind of put a perspective um of where we're at. So, and I think I talked about earlier and I can't remember the exact numbers, but it's like 250,000 is what they're anticipating of new um residents in our region over the next I think it's five years. So, we are growing. the area is growing fast. Um let's see there they had some interesting um statistics that I actually kept thinking of Mr. Frell during all of it because they talk about um you know housing ownership and everything and we're uh back right now we are back at um housing ownership to where we were before the big crash in 2007. We finally have come and evened out for ownership. Um, with that we since we are building the quickest in 2024 the region built over almost a little over 12,500 units. And where they're excited about is that the units used to be mostly all just single family homes on larger lots and that's being balanced out now to where there are attached units and um small lot units. And you know we're kind of feeling that push here in in G. And so it was interesting to see that we're this is pretty standard across the region of what we're feeling here.

Um anyway, so that was very interesting. What was even more interesting though is after that meeting um there was a uh special transit SEIKOG transit meeting and I will have to say that was one of the most depressing meetings I've been that I've witnessed because it was all doom and gloom mainly because of the um unfunded mandates that are coming that are now coming to fruition. They were passed well before, but they're coming to fruition. Such as, you know, they want us all to have either electrical electric or hydrogen busing. No more, you know, transit, but there's no funding for that. And there's no, uh, access to the fueling, especially the hydrogen that's not out there very much right now. So, um, for instance, one of the, um, transit authorities that was there, um, I can't, I think it was YOLO, Yuba, YOLO Transit, um, they they're anticipated purchases for for needing, you know, as you rotate through the buses, through the vehicles, they are anticipating over the next 10 year or five years to need about $20 million to replace their buses as a regular. And now because of these new unfunded mandates, they're looking at over $60 million and no extra funding anywhere. And so it's very um that words like the Titanic were used through through all of this. And so um it it is a little depressing. I think as a smaller transit unit with um SAC link, they were not there unfortunately. Um, I think we we're probably in a little bit better of a position just because we're not because we're so small. We're not, you know, we don't have to buy as many buses. Um, but anyway, it's something to that I'll be watching very closely because it's going to be an uncomfortable next five years for

transit. So maybe so what you're saying is that California likes to pass laws, enforce things without having money to pay for them. That sounds like a new concept to me. Um that so those those statistics you gave was that was a regional. Yeah, that's for that big region. So not just Sacramento County, it's several counties. Oh, it's not just that county, but several counties. Yeah. But it's this is the area that's fastest like that area, right? Yeah. Well, glad somebody's excited about that. All right.

I actually was not able to attend the cast meeting. I want to thank Councilman Prattton for filling in for them. That's why you're there. So, thank you for for filling me in on that and being in my presence. And other than that, I have nothing else to report. So, we will move on to the information consent calendar. It is recommended that items one through seven be acted upon simultaneously unless a separate discussion and/or action is requested by a council member. Item one is to receive and file warrants for a period ending of November 20th, 2025. Item two is the minutes of the regular meeting of November 4th. Item three is cancellation of the January 6, 2026 council meeting. Item four is the treasures report for the period ending of October 2025. Item five is a letter to Sacramento County regarding the ongoing support of the regional unhoused collaborative. Item six is the approval of the project expenditure plan and transportation development act claim for fiscal year FY2526 and number seven is to authorize the city manager to execute reimbursement agreement with Khanavarian homes of Northern California for the Fairway Oaks subdivision. Do we have any public comment on the consent calendar?

No. All right. Do we have any items wish to be pulled by council members on the consent calendar? All right. Well, with that, I'd be looking for a motion to approve items one through seven. Moved. Moved by council member Reed. All second. Second by council member Prattton. Can have a roll call, please. Vice Mayor Sandeu. I. Council member Prattton. I. Council member Reid. I. Council member Rodriguez. I. Mayor Farmer. I. Consent calendar is approved. 5-0. Moving on to item G. Scheduled matters. Notice of public hearing item tonight is going to be the Sheffield subdivision project. Miss Carmoni. Uh Mr. Mayor. Mr.

Yes, sir. Sorry. Uh I would like to announce uh my pro my family have a property close to that project in within a 500 ft. Uh that address is 910 air land. So I would like to recuse myself uh from this agenda item. So I will ask the mayor when he's done I'm going to leave and can you ask me? We'll do. Thank you sir.

Thank you. All right, please proceed.

Thank you. Uh, good evening, council members. My name is Kristen Bits and I'm a principal planner with the community development department and tonight I will be um presenting the Sheffield subdivision project. The proposed project is located in G's northeast area specific plan. It is adjacent to East Stockton Boulevard and Canyon Creek Park, which is to the east. It's about 9.5 acres in size and includes a vacant home on the site. It is surrounded by existing residential neighborhoods to the north, to the east, and to the south. The project is proposing 65 single family lots and uh the site is really a true infill opportunity for the city of G. And in order to achieve success, the developer is asking the city council to consider resolutions for the initial study and mitigated negative declaration, a general plan amendment, a northeast area specific plan amendment, a reszone inclusive of a plan development standards, and a tenative subdivision map. So as mentioned the project was subject to an ISM and which analyzed the potential impacts on the environment during the public comment period which was which started on September 19th and ended on October 20th. The city received five comment letters which are um in the attachments to the staff report. None of the comments however addressed or identified new concerns to the environment. So the ISM andd concluded that with the implementation of

mitigation measures all impacts would actually be reduced to a less than significant threshold. As part of the ISM andd, a mitigation monitoring and reporting plan or MMRP has been prepared in compliance with SQA to ensure implementation of the mitigation measures outlined in the ISM andd. Not going to read all of them, of course, but I'll give you a couple of examples. The project will be required to participate in the South Sacramento habitat conservation plan. They will be required to get plan approval prior to grading and improvement plan approval. They will also be required to secure a tree permit and pay mitigation fees prior to oak tree removal from the site and the project will be required to install traffic calming measures. So the first entitlement request is for the general planned amendment. The property is currently designated as low density residential which allows single family dwellings. The proposed designation is medium density residential which also allows single family dwellings but also allows duplexes. This project however will not be building duplexes. The second entitlement is an amendment to the northeast area specific plan. So currently the property has a designation of R1CSP which is a maximum density single family residential designation and the plan allows approximately 4.3 dwelling units per acre. The general plan allows up to six. So it's close but not quite there. So the development is proposing an amendment for the property to be designated as R2SP which is a medium

density residential and that will then increase the maxable maximum allowed units from six to eight dwelling units per acre. I'll also note that these parcels are also the last remaining vacant R1CSP property in the northeast area specific plan at this point. The next entitlement is a reszone request along with a plan development overlay. So the current zoning district is R1. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. Do you want me to go back to the Okay. So, the reszone and plan development. The current zoning district is R1A, which is the low density single family residential with a minimum lot size of 10,000 square ft and an allowable density range of 0 to six dwelling units per acre. With this zoning designation, they could potentially build a maximum of 57 lots. They're proposing to reszone the property to R2PD, medium density residential plan development. In the Gman Municipal Code, the R2 zoning district requires a minimum lot size of 5,500 square feet without a planned development overlay, but smaller lots are allowed with approval of the planned development overlay, which is what the request is. The allowable density range in the medium density zoning district is 5 to 8 Julian units per acre. So in this example, by going by approving the reszone, the property could build a maximum of 76 lots with the R2 zoning, but that is not what they're proposing. They're proposing 65.

So talking about the plan development in the staff report and on the screen here is a table that shows what the current R2 development standards are in the code and what the development is proposing um for this project. So they are requesting an increase in the maximum lot coverage from 50 to 60%. a decrease in the minimum lot size, a decrease in the minimum street frontage, a decrease in the front setback standard, and a side setback of 5T, which isn't a change, but they are asking to be to allow a three-foot side setback um for plan number two. This was um talked about at the planning commission meeting on November 13th. And so after some discussion between the commissioners and the developer, um the developer agreed to add one additional singlestory plan to the development. Initially, they were only going to include one. So now they're going to include two. and that plan number two in order for it to work needs a smaller setback. And the reason this came to be is because one of the public comment letters we received, while it was not um about environmental concerns, the request from the neighborhood to the north was that we try to incorporate all singlestory homes um which I'll show on the map on the next screen behind the existing singlestory homes in Emerald Park unit 22 which is the Gutidge homes to the north. So the developer and planning commission came to agreement that the condition the project would be conditioned to build all single stories lots 1 through 11 to line up with the single stories of Emerald Park. But in

order to do that he needed some flexibility with the side setbacks. So the planning commission did recommend a three-foot side setback for floor plan number two only. The rear setbacks are going to remain at 10 ft and the maximum building heights will also remain at 30 feet. This is a copy of the sheet one of the tenative subdivision map. Um I've provided large printed copies to all of you as well. And you can see in the um top of the screen there where I've called out Emerald Park unit 22 which has the existing singlestory homes. And then I've outlined where lots one and through 11 will be conditioned to be singlestory homes. The other condition that the planning commission placed on the project at the meeting last month was that no duplexes as defined are allowed in the project area. So this is important to note because while the zoning change would allow duplexes, in this case the project is conditioned that they will not be allowed to build duplexes. Sorry to interrupt.

Yes. Sorry to interrupt you. Could you clarify how many acres is this project again? 9 and a half. Is it exactly 9.5 or like 9 something for like specific number? Sorry, I probably have it here somewhere, but couldn't find it. I have 9.5 acres. 9.5. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome.

Continue. I want to note that uh design review is not part of this entitlement request. So at this time when I talk about forthcoming singlestory floor plans, we actually don't have the floor plans yet. So that'll come to the planning commission um early next year. So um uh it's not showing. So, the Sheffield subdivision project, um, in addition to the 65 lots, offers some really wonderful off-site improvements, and one of those is the trail extension of what we refer to as staff as South Deadman's Gulch Trail. Um, it's not showing on this screen, but I had it outlined that there were lines drawn where the arrows are pointing to, but essentially the extension, the trail is going to extend um to the north side of the subdivision and wrap around coming down to Leonia and going across south of the park. As you can see here, um, in addition to the trail being extended, which is wonderful for bike riders and pedestrians, Leonia Drive is finally going to get an off-site connection, which will really help with traffic circulation um, to that corridor. So now travelers can get from this subdivision or the subdivision to the south, the Ashboro subdivision. They can get over to the east easier because they'll be able to drive all the way through Leyonia up to uh Cedar Flat Avenue. Also, Park Ridge Drive will be a dead end. It will not go through the subdivision. Um, on that note, I want to say that when Emerald Park Company built unit 22, which is the subdivision to the

north, they did try to obtain this 9.5 acre parcel, and they weren't successful in purchasing it. But I've um I talked to them recently and had they purchased the property, Park Ridge Drive would have likely continued south into the proposed Sheffield subdivision area and then wrapped around and connected to Lionia to the south. In this case, however, um we were able to keep that neighborhood somewhat separate with the dead end and then provide the two connection points needed for Sheffield. one off the frontage road and then again one south at Leonia Drive. This gives a little bit u more detail on the trail extension. So I know a question was asked what the connection is going to look like. I don't have a photo rendering or drawing but this gives the section from the tenative subdivision map which is also shown shown on sheet two um in front of you. So the trail will be 10 foot wide and then it's got a two-ft shoulder on each side. This view is um showing a house on the right hand side. So the houses that are along here will have open view fencing which is this 6ft open view fence. So this is the house, this will be the fence, this will be the trail and then on portions there'll be a 4ft open view fence and then down here is the existing gulch area with the grass and trees and uh wetland areas. So for the project findings for the general plan amendment, we're you're asked to find consistency with the general plan and the public necessity,

convenience, and general welfare. For the specific plan amendment and reszone, we're looking for general plan conformance and public necessity, convenience, and general welfare. And for the tenative subdivision map, we look for findings that show consistency with the general plan, with our housing needs, and with passive or natural heating and cooling opportunities. So, in the staff report, we've outlined a total of 11 general plan policies that substantiate the findings that um planning commission and city council are required to make. I'm not going to read all 11, but I'm going to highlight some of the most important ones. And the first one is consistency with circulation policy 1.12, which states that the city shall encourage gridlike street sub systems, which the Sheffield tenative subdivision map absolutely demonstrates. It is a grid street system. The second policy is housing element policy 2.1 which encourages infill housing development on vacant and underutilized parcels. It's almost as though that specific policy was written for this project. It is an infill project. It is vacant aside from the existing home and it is underutilized. It's time for it to be developed. The third policy is housing element policy 1.2. two, which requires the city to provide a variety of residential densities and housing types to meet the needs of all economic segments of GT. This is very important. It's our housing element requirement. I know we've been in front of you before with the housing elements and the policies, but these are some of the most important policies staff wanted to highlight in support of the project.

And that concludes my presentation. The city council is recommended to adopt the resolution appro approving the initial study and mitigated neg negative declaration and the MMRP. Adopt the resolution approving the GPA. Adopt a resolution approving an amendment to the northeast area specific plan. Adopt an ordinance approving the reszone from R1A to R2PD. and along with the proposed development standards and finally adopt a resolution approving the tenative subdivision map. Thank you. And if you have any questions, I am here to answer them.

All right. Thank you, Miss Spitz. I will um I'm going to open the public hearing. So, the public hearing is open and I will uh we will ask for any public comment here in a moment. Um I'd like to open up the discussion to the council first. uh kick this off with a couple questions that I have. So, just to clarify, the existing street, Park Ridge Drive, I was looking on my phone here. So, it currently dead ends to the south and that's going to remain a dead end into the new development. Correct. It will not connect into the new development.

Okay. So the basically the connections so the only connections we're looking at from this development would be uh well technically it's not even a connection but we would see Leonia which interesting enough dead ends to the west and also dead ends there's like a gap so that gap will be con bridged correct for cross right so that's this area here that's the off-site improvement of Leonia and then the subdivision will open up here at this point. So, and to the frontage road.

Got it. So, uh so Leona Leona will continue east to west and then the current uh spot right across at the far corner of the Ashboro. I'll call it the Ashboro uh development will connect upwards right to the north. The little Leona comes across and then there'll be there'll be there will be a connection right to the new street right here. Yeah. Yes. But Ashboro is right here. So this street will not Yeah. I'm just referring to the subdivision that little that little subdivision is the Ashboro. I know it's not called that but

Yeah. So basically So we're going to have So the two connections will basically be at Leonia and they'll be an outlet to Stockton Boulevard. Correct. Correct. So I I'm I'm I'm trying to understand the lot reduction because you said it's 9.5 acres. So doing some math, 43,56, that's 413,000 square foot of property. If you divide that by 65 lots, that gives me 6,300 average. 6,300 average is seems like a normal size to me, but you were showing some numbers like in the 3,000ish.

Uh that's correct. So there is a range of lot sizes for this project. So the minimum lot size I believe is 3825. Yes, 38.25. But there are lots as big as um just over 7,000 square ft. Okay. I was saying Yeah. So if that average is 6,300, there's got to be So there's a wide range there. I mean, we're talking about almost a 4,000 square foot difference, maybe closer to three just in those two lot numbers I just gave you. So, you're taking that

Well, you're correct. Yeah, thank you. I didn't really think about that. Yeah, I I guess they have it on there. It's just so small to read uh the square footages, but um I see a lot of 4,000s three. So basically the bottom line is that normally for R1C we're I mean like typically what so when I look at like the reg I don't know what their R1C I would assume but like we're seeing a lot of the subdivisions that are being built now like Liberty Ranch and and Elliot and you know all these those are kind of the normal build size I would say that we're seeing today in today in today's developments. Yeah, we're seeing a lot more R1C, which is 6,500 square feet or more.

Right. So, the typ So, typically what we're seeing, what I'm getting at is typically what we're seeing with developments that we're seeing around town that are happening is somewhere in the 6,000ish range of or higher lot sizes, right? Well, aside from Greenwood Cottages behind the form. Yeah, that's that's the exception. Or Parland Oaks is the other exception. So, not I guess all Yeah. Um, all right. I have some comments, but I'm going to save those and see if we have more questions. Anybody at council want to jump in questions? I'll save mine for after public comment. Okay. I'll do the same.

I just have a couple questions that aren't I don't think red flags. But you you mentioned traffic calming measures. What are they going to be required to do? What kind of traffic? Is it just the moment? Well, those aren't really trafficcoming though. Well, they think they are, but he they're going to have somebody out there going slow. Well, I just since, you know, it's been on topic for speak or whatever.

Thank you for bringing it up. I saw that and was going to ask the same thing. I jotted it down. While while Miss Bits looks that up, we can go ahead and go to public comment just to speed things along. Do we have any public comment? Miss Valencia.

Hi there. So, it's my first time here and I just want to ask a couple questions and maybe get some they on the letter that I received. I live in the Ashro subdivision, but I don't think it's called that. Um, 27 oak trees are going to be removed and after I was looking while you guys were talking, I noticed that nine trees are going to be saved and 17, if I'm doing my math right, are going to be removed. And mo some of the trees, majority of the trees are in good condition, good condition. So, I'm just kind of like lost as how you can justify removing that many trees for the subdivision. Especially where I live, the tree is against the fence. I notice it supposed to be saved. I don't know if this is a final map and it will be saved, but I my tree um does great for shade. It's great for the um quality air. It's great for the um traffic at with 99. It's so loud and we've used that tree that tree forever and it helps with our electricity. So I'm like, "Wow, how can you justify 27 protected oak trees to be removed?" Now it's 17, I think, that are going to be removed. I just want to know how you came up with that and how the city said, "Yes, let's do this. We'll take the fine and pay it and go with it." And then my second thing is you did a great job doing presentation about the traffic, but I'm going to disagree with you on the

Oh, yeah. Just direct comments to um

I'm going to disagree with you about Lono Drive being the throwaway. 99 is horrible and Stockton Street is horrible. So, how are you going to fix that? How are you going to have you have new houses coming in and I know that we all live in G. So we all know 99 is a mess. Every day I look out and say am I going to go to Elkrove or am I go to Loi? You know that's my choice or I couldn't even come to G one day. I was like couldn't come into town because it was so bad. So you're adding houses but you're not giving a resolution to Stockton Street. Stockton Street is horrible. The police can tell you it's horrible. It is always packed. people get off 99, they fly down Stockton Street that if the 99's uh backed up, then Stockton Street is backed up. So, I did not hear anything what the resolution of extra houses and the extra people on Stockton Street. What are you going to do about that? And if Lionel Drive is a throwaway, then it's going to cause the residential area of Ashro to have more people driving down that street really fast and to get to Stockton Street in 99. So those are things that the citizens over there they probably are like yeah what the heck are you guys going to do about the traffic. I you know this is not a resolution just to move L connect lional street there is 99's bad and I want to know what the city's going to do to address that and I want to know if the map that they just sent that just put in are some of the trees going to be saved and is it going to be permanent that we that we don't have to worry about that and I don't understand the trees on the fence line should not be removed they are protected oak trees by the state of California I don't understand how we can do that. And that's that's my comment. I wanted to put that in your guys' head. So, she did a great job. She did pre did her

homework, but she doesn't live there. So, I thank you. Thank you. No more public comment. Could do we have anything that specifies which trees are going to be removed? cuz I am looking at the satellite map, but there's a lot of trees that are right on the property line, like the perimeter. I see a few out in the middle, which I assume those are going to go for sure. But there there is an exhibit in the conceptual landscape plan, which would have been I think it's attachment 8.

Do we is there any way we can bring that up on the screen if that's not possible? I don't is it are you guys connect can you share attachment 8 in the staff report in the staff from from the management folder? Yeah, I'm just wanting to see the the public can see it. Well, that's what page in the staff report is that right? That's uh starts on 77. Page 77 of the packet, I guess. Hold on. It just disappeared. Where'd it go? There it goes.

Yeah, it starts addressing trees on actually on page 77 and into 78.

It's it's not in the conceptual landscape plan, but I do have an exhibit and it does also talk about the um health of each tree. So I wouldn't say most are in good condition. and it they were looked at by an arborist so it may appear good to some but depending on the report so the report dictates and things that are fair and poor are the ones that typically get targeted for removal and the project is conditioned to pay oak tree mitigation fees prior to removal and while the project did start out with a relatively high number um I had spoke to Miss Valencia before in the past and we were able to save the tree behind her house I think it's number 32 when I can find the right exhibit. Um, so yes, some trees are going to be removed, some trees are going to be saved, and the developer had told me once they get dirt moving, there could be opportunity to save more once they're out there getting closer to grading activities.

Yeah, I mean, these are important questions because, you know, from our experience, we learn at Dry Creek Oaks, there were some trees taken out that weren't even supposed to be removed. So, I to be honest with you, I don't trust developers like zero. So, I I just want to be very adamant. I mean, I know if I had a great tree behind my house that was deemed healthy and I get that it could be on someone else's property, so it's you know that it's not but I just don't I don't want to be in a situation where, you know, there's like, oh yeah, we're going to save this tree. And then we have a a resident come back and saying, oh, you know what? Actually, I went out there and bulldozer bulldozed it down. they decide, oh, that one wasn't actually going to stay after all. I just I'm very ler of um I personally would like to see a map of which trees are specified to be pulled. I'm just curious. So, there's 27 and 17 are going to be removed. So, they're leaving 10. Is that the right math of it? Or

it is. Yeah. Um I think Hold on. I think it was actually only 21 that were proposed to be removed and it was we it was reduced down to 17. I'm looking for the tree exhibit. Give me just a moment, please. Well, while you're looking that up, I do want to make a comment that I was happy that the planning commission had the foresight to condition the um requirement of not having the doublestory homes up against existing single stories. That's like a huge pet peeve of mine and I um if somebody would like to speak, you need to fill out a card and you need to come up to public comment. The hearing is still open. If you'd like to speak, just fill out a card.

Yep. Yeah. Or either side and bring it up to the clerk. Thank you, sir. Do you and also I don't want to ask you a second question while you're still looking at my first question, but I also would like to know is there I know we haven't seen architectural and we're not going to see that tonight, but I'm just curious um is there some sort of range on square footage of the homes that I'm just curious. We haven't gotten that far yet. We on sizes.

Okay. Architecture style. See, this is the problem with this kind of thing. I I hate when projects come to us and at first and then we're asked to approve something, but we don't even have all the information. Like, we don't even know how big the house is going to be, like nothing. And so this is the frustrating part is that we're asked to approve something blindly with only knowing the size of the lots but not knowing, you know, because for me to put, you know, for me to say yes to a project, I don't want a citizen coming back to me and, you know, in a year from now and saying, "Look at these these things are hideous and they're they're they're huge and there's no I don't know." And then and then and then, you know, I have to back up my vote on it. I don't know. May I comment on it?

Sure. Um, yeah, you know, that is the standard process, right? That's the way it works. But I think the important thing we've learned so far in the last year is is just what the planning commission did in this one where they did add the no duplexes, they added it into the document. The single stories, they added it into the document. The only one they didn't add in was the the quantity of lots, which, you know, something I'll probably propose when we get there to possibly lock that in somehow. I know that's not always standard procedure, but it it definitely if these guys sell sell this off to somebody else, then we got a little more teeth to keep that from from changing because they'll the people who who were would buy it now have that in the document. That's where we went wrong on the last one. There was none of that. That was those were all promises, but nothing was documented. So,

right. Um, anyways, back to my tree question. Did we figure that out yet or no? We have one more public comment. Go ahead. We'll take that while waiting. Craig and Cindy, and I apologize. Can you say your last name?

Uh, thank you. I was gonna say Clark just wanted to thank this first time uh at city of G. Appreciate you guys bringing bringing us here able to to to uh put a couple words together for you. Uh we are uh Cindy and I are residents and uh firsttime home buyers there uh on 737 Parkridge. So, we're north of there. So, we were, you know, eight, seven plus years ago, uh, we're in under the hopeful impression that our division subdivision would actually flow through Park Ridge and take that area. And that's what Mike Gudridge was hoping to do. So, again, time changes, things change. Uh, but we would like to see a low density uh, pro project there. uh being that where we're we're all of our neighbors and everything like that say the same uh we want to keep it uh to not where we have and plus two I know they on the project there they were saying to home 11 well we're the third one third house is up so if there were any two stories they're going to be looking at our backyard you know so we would like to have some privacy on that end of it you know uh but uh

yeah because it from the when the all the leaves are on the trees, it's probably not a big deal. But now with all the leaves coming off, um with if there's twotory that you'll be able to look right into our backyards um for the first probably the first three, four homes. And um so if if they're going to build double stories, it would be great if they started at lot 16 um instead of at 11 right on our fence line. Yeah.

Um Yeah, because it it's just I we just feel like it was we'd love it all to be one one story homes. Um but the two story if they really really want to do that if they go to 16 that would be much it would be very helpful to us and we like to see we like to see low density there because of the areas and you know there's a lot of homes being built down Walnut and then until you get all the way again to over over to uh the new high school and such too is really nice areas and a lot larger homes and we'd like to see that. Yeah,

we really would. We're happy that it is gonna dead end there that that we're actually not going to be open now because um as the woman spoke before us, the traffic on that road is horrible and if that road was by our by our place, it would have been people diverting trying to get around the traffic. So, um so yeah, we appreciate Thank you. Yes. Appreciate it a lot. Thank you for all your work. Thank you for your comments. Can someone specify to me again which lots we're talking about that were that the that were conditioned by the planning commission for single versus double

1 through 11. You need this one now

up there. There it is. Okay. This these lot. So lots 13 and for 13 and on or 12 13 to 16 is about here and this is where I'll show you. I we we I took some measurements and this is kind of hard to see. So this is lot 12. Okay.

Right. And this is where the trail is going to extend. It's hard to see the numbers on here but this line right here is a distance to um an existing two-story home. And this is an existing two-story home. He's talking about these homes here and lots 12 through this is approximately where lot 16 is. So that this segment should also be twostory homes but this distance from the back of sorry. So the that little the little purple triangle at the bottom of that's that's there's a gap there because that's the trail extension like right there where your where your pointer is. Right. Go down a little bit

here. No. Over. Over and down. Down. Down. Straight down. Right there. That square right there is lot 12. That's lot 12. Right. So everything over here has been conditioned to be single story. Okay. I'm confused on I'm confused on the trail extension though. Explain that to me. How does the It's a 90°. Sorry. So the trail is going to extend. It's here. Exist. It exists already right here. It's behind these homes. It's going to extend here and then go down connect to Leonia. Okay. I get it now. So there's like a there is a buffer between the new subdivision and that correct the property lines don't butt up against each other. Correct. Correct.

Okay. So, mayor, um we do have the developer here and maybe could help answer some of the tree questions in advance and I don't know if he'd like to come up and say a few words. to fill out a card.

Good evening, council members. My name is Aaron Ross Swain and I'm the founder and owner of Fieldstone Communities and uh can address the tree question in a minute, but just to give you some background on who we are and what we do. We're a regional uh small growing home builder. I founded the company in 2019 and uh we build throughout Sacramento region, Auburn, Roseville, Elkrove, and soon to be G. We will be the builder on this subdivision. We've already started the final engineering uh at risk so that we're in a position to start this spring. And conceptual architectures underway and you had a question about the square footage ranges. They're going to range from 1580 up to 2200 square ft, two single stories and three two stories. We already talked about the single story earlier. Um but you know they really do compliment complement one another and you know we are target targeting that price sensitive home buyer to add to the diversity of the the housing stock here in here in G. As far as trees are concerned I believe that uh we are removing 18 trees and we're saving nine trees and we're specifically saving the tree behind our neighbor's house here tree number 31. So, we did uh have that request come before us early on and we've done our best to preserve as many trees as possible and uh it was said earlier that there there may be an opportunity to preserve more trees and that is in fact the case as we plot homes on those lots that depending upon the floor plans there might be enough space to again save future trees. Um what was the what was the there was three two stories and how many single story plans?

Two single story plans. Two single story and three twotory 1580 to 22. Okay. And then um um you um sorry just trying to look at like five things at one time here. You made a comment that you guys are going to be the builder of this project. Would you be would you be willing to put that on paper that you're not going to sell the project to somebody else? I mean, it's a valid question. Yeah. I mean, we we're we're invested. I mean, we're the the train is down the track. We're doing the architecture. It's in our business plan.

So, I'm just trying to look up real quick. I'm sorry. I'm trying to find this on a Zillow map. What the I'm just curious what the uh average lot sizes are in the in the like the park range area. those ones that are just just for curious to the south. Yeah. Or to the to the north to the north the not so Park Ridge but I'm sorry I got like five maps here and I'm with my phone open and my computer and um so on so the the h the homes on Need Court so on the south side of Need Court. Just curious what some of those square footages are on those lots. Those are zoned R1C.

Yeah, I know that. I know that. I'm just trying to curious. I'm looking. Sorry. And I'm looking too just trying to find the uh if I remember correctly in the staff report, didn't it say that this is a that the lots are in between the sizes between the the development to the south and then the one to the north is larger. So this was kind of leading into small, medium, large lots. Is that did did I read that correctly?

Yes. So, the homes to the north, unit 22, um they range in size of I'm trying to find the smallest one. So, R1C is a minimum 6,500, but I think most of them are about about 8,500 or larger. And then yeah, I found it. The ones on Need Quart are about 9,500, at least the one I clicked on. So that gives me an idea. And then the homes to the south, um, those lots are 34 3500.

And the and the homes, it looks like 1,900 square feet roughly on one of them. need. I'm just so I mean I'm just trying to get an idea of the assimilation between the It's hard to do that with um Emerald Park Company because as you may recall they were a semicustom home builder. So there's going to be not even two similar floor plans in this group of lots here,

right? So the sizes could range quite a bit depending on modifications builders made at the time. But basically what I'm seeing is they're going to be very similar because I'm I'm looking at the three homes on on Need Court that are going to back up against the new subdivision and they're roughly 1,900 ft². He gave us a range of 15 to 22. So we could write it being the same. So they're they're not going to be that dissimilar. Honestly, the lot sizes will be dissimilar. Correct.

Yeah. But um I mean I I I moved from a subdivision that had my neighbor had like a 15,000 square foot lot and mine was like seven. So I mean you know that thing h that happens you get back culde-sac lots and those types of things. There's always a variance but um questions council any thoughts?

Just a quick trail question. I don't know why I'm stuck on that. the trail coming behind the original homes, the Parker the Partridge homes, I'm just going to call them. Um that is there a connection from the actual homes to that or how do you get onto that trail? I guess you can access it uh there's this little basin park right here along the frontage road so they can access it there. I don't believe the homes were built with direct access. Now, if somebody put in a gate separately, that does happen throughout the city on some of the trails when they back up to the trail.

There there is no direct access. So, will there be a direct access? I guess I'm trying to get access from the original or the north subdivision onto that trail down here at the south. Is there is where that that road ends, where Partridge ends, can they hop over to the trail? Uh, can we go? You would have to go through the that basin area. Yeah. Can we by the park and to the bridge? Thank you. And then that's where it would start if you're in the Park Ridge area.

So, you're going to have to go down to Leonia, go over or go east, and then go over to that br that bridge. Okay. Is there any I mean because there's a park right there. It just seems like if there's some way to connect these two um developments they are connect to that park right across they are connected by a bridge but they have to go down all the way around and right actually this is going to be the first trail system that's actually a loop. Everything seems to dead end. This is going to be able to loop through. You'll be able to start at Emerald Vista Park, go down through the back, come up through Canyon Creek, and and back up and it would loop all the way around.

That's great. That I mean, we need that. We need that connection. I was just trying to get a connection from inside those neighborhoods. But if they have to walk down Leona, but but can they get out Partridge? They're not because they're going to hit a a a house, right? And they're going to hit a They would have to go through the back end of the So, they're going to have to go all the way out their their neighborhood and go around. Correct. or come on to Lionia and then that connects down and you'd go down to uh the end where that bridge is uh Cedar Flats I believe it is. Okay. Then you'd cross right there, go back on the other side. Okay. Okay.

Um you know, I was just noticing I I know that there was some comment made earlier um that there have been hopes to have, you know, a similar like a Gutidge neighborhood I mean, I can tell you just for the public, those of us in this council and planning commission would love to see more subdivisions like Gut Ridges, but the reality is that's just not what's being built nowadays. And as much as we've tried to fight for such things, especially lately with some of the projects that have come before us to get anything close to that is almost impossible it seems like now. But what I did notice that you have, and this is of course based on Zillow, so I'm only going by whatever, but you have homes in the Ashboro area. They're throwing they're showing numbers values of somewhere between 400 50,000 somewhere 400. And then you have houses up on Need Court that are showing some of the values of 750 and 800. So you literally have houses that are literally so dissimilar between that neighborhood and that neighborhood. And we're now developing in the middle. So, I think that honestly the what I'm seeing by these square footages and it will probably relate to what the values of those homes are going to be. This is kind of a transition neighborhood to go from what that to that. I I I think you know they're very different. Um I think in a perfect world we would love you know people that live in this area would love to see it remain a field but the reality is uh infill projects are come almost the best case scenario for the city because we have to provide those numbers and we don't want to see more sprawl. Um I'm happy to see the park ridge is not going to go through. I think that's actually a huge benefit to that neighborhood. Um that's a huge blessing in my opinion. Um for sure. Um there was some comments expressed about traffic on 99 which we have no

control over and we're you know fighting that battle right now as we speak to get some improvements in that Stockton Boulevard. Um what are the traffic So you asked you asked what the traffic mitigation measures were. Did we figure that out yet? Yes. So, in the MMRP, um they list potential potential traffic caling measures. Um and those measures include um marked crosswalks, countdown signal timers, curb extensions, speed tables, raised crosswalks, or median islands. So, speed tables. So, speed bumps, right? Those are a form of speed bump, right?

I don't have an engineer here. I think those are the squared off. Just tell me because I thought there was a difference between speed bumps and humps and tables, right? So, can I follow?

Do we have any So, I'm I'm curious about that though. I mean, I'm cur and what street do we have any idea where those are supposed to like is there any idea about some where some of that's going to be placed at on Leonia or somewhere else? Uh at this uh uh um at this point we don't there's nothing that we're seeing yet. Obviously, you know, we have a program that we've talked about and uh what we what we would do is as these needs are coming in, we'll take the traffic count and obviously whatever the process that we decide to go with for the the speed control, you know, then we can bring that back uh to you for approval.

Well, I appreciate that. But you're asking us to approve a project tonight that says in there that one of the conditions is they're going to put you're going to put speed measures and nobody can tell me how many speed measures where they're going to go and all I'm hearing is that we're going to look at it later and come back and I'm so gunshy of approving anything that's not in writing anymore. Like literally I'll just say no to this project tonight. Now it'll probably pass with a no for me. But unless I get everything in writing absolutely like where stuff's going to be. Sorry. I just and I'm sorry, Chris, but you have to understand the the stuff that's been going on leading up to this. I would like to have at least a general idea of where these speed measures are going to go and and like something not just we'll have to figure it out.

And also, it might not be speed tables. There's a list of items here to incorporate into the improvement plans. And I'm guessing improvement plans are still under development. So that's we just submitted our first set. Oh, okay. Well, thank you. And where where that that crosswalk you talked about possibly is that across um it doesn't say in the MMRP. It just gives options. And so that is one of the options. A marked crosswalk is an option. It doesn't tell me where, how long, where it's going to go. It's just a potential option.

So I'm just thinking of like what we did with Adara where we put these these you know this process of getting things right. We're in the process of doing that. My thought is you put a new subdivision in, you connect Leonia. So, I mean, I don't even know. Just thinking like you would have to do a speed check to figure out what the traffic flow is going to be. So, that's going to take a while. So, then then you got to go through that whole process. So, I mean, really, it'd be hard to foresee any kind of speed measures or anything whe regardless whether it's a sign or it's a speed table or whatever being put anywhere near the subdivision.

So, I think I got to ask a question. like I'm not clear like where the speed control would be. Is it in the subdivision or is it an offsite speed control? Uh so if it's in the subdivision uh it is a smaller uh you know a shorter road distance and if they're just trying to you know prevent speeding from in the subdivision my hunch would be is that the list of mitigation measures is a choose one you know so it's you know a list of measures that they can pick and I don't know if they want to uh commit to one this evening or be conditioned to. Well, I'd almost be afraid to commit to one because we don't really know what the traffic's going to be until it's full.

So, if we make them put in speed tables now, they may not be needed and now we're stuck with speed tables that need to be taken out or something. So, I don't know. We typically have a good I want to say estimate of traffic. I mean, there is some science behind the traffic data that they produce and the studies. So, it does give us a good range of what the ultimate traffic would be generated from the subdivision and then which direction they go. Can you pull up the tenative map, please?

Will this will this work? Yes. So my civil engineer just pointed out that these noble corners here by definition traffic calming we'll have a stop sign right here at this intersection. These street sections here are generally too short to put traffic calming measures in there. So just inherently it's not set up to be a drag strip within the subdivision. Um, so there is going to be a stop sign at um SER. I don't know if I'm pronouncing it so between the intersection of Soie and Serwalk.

So, so crosswalk north crosswalk which runs north to south, but the stop sign is is is it is is where uh where Soie Street dead ends into center. Is that correct? Sorry to ask so many questions, gentlemen. It's just that we don't want to be back here in two years from now or two years in uh yeah, in two years from now with people asking to do something in their neighborhood for speeding. So, we're trying to be proactive.

Appreciate that. Casey Feer, TSD Engineering, thanks for having me this evening. And yes, when we're looking at traffic calming devices for on on-site uh measures, the knuckles are natural traffic caling devices because you have signs coming up to them. They're a 90 degree turn. So there's your already two of your uh traffic calming devices. The third one that was mentioned, Kristen mentioned that another option is a striped or a colored or stamped crosswalk is another natural a um traffic caling device and that is the one that you're talking about heading north to south right there at that intersection. So with the length of your roads being as short as they are, we are already meeting all the criterias for traffic calming devices with the design that's up there. Okay.

So there we are not proposing additional speed tables. We are not going to be proposing anything additional on top of what's already being shown. So here's just a wild idea I was going to throw here. So council, you remember the discussion we were having with the dairway recently. One of the big problems with them was the people taking that corner really fast off Stockton Boulevard onto a dare, right? And so one of the measures that was presented to us and speeding all the way down the street all the way up to that 90 degree turn. Yeah. All the way up to that 90 degree turn right behind the school. Right. So I get what he's saying,

but uh I don't know if it's a just a G thing, but just because the road turns does not slow people down in this city. I can totally foresee speeding on this. People are going to cut on to Stockton Boulevard. They're going to speed down the street. They're going to make that hook and then they probably won't get that much speed on the back street but then down to Leone. I can see that. I've been looking at the map and that just looks like a total cut through. I don't know. I just keep thinking of a dare way. So, I know in a dare one of the things that was proposed to us was they were going to put that little pork chop right there where it exits out Boulevard just to keep people from cutting that corner really fast. I would like to see something like that conditioned. It's a very small thing. Um, just in my opinion. Um,

so we're we're open to working with staff during our final engineering to to incorporate additional traffic calming measures where it makes sense. Um, and I I would be supportive I would be supportive of this project and I'm just thinking through this right now with some commitment of some sort of traffic coming measure. You guys determine what it is on that stretch of Sainer Street between Stockton Boulevard and where it makes the hook. Something on there whether it's a speeds just something. I'm not saying what. I'm just saying some measure something.

Sure. And also possibly to include something at the entrance point like we're trying to do on our Dairway. I think anything exit out of stock because what it is and I know you're new to this conversation, but what we've had is we have an existing street a little bit north of where you're going to be at and people are coming off Stockton Boulevard and they're hooking that corner into the neighborhood. So, we have like the neighbors that are the first couple houses in having people just coming around that corner really fast. So, that we've been proposing putting like a small little island there so they can't hook the corner like that. It's a small measure, but it can do a lot. and and we've done speed tests on that road and some people are getting in excess of 65 miles an hour coming off that you can start to Yeah. Yeah. So

So that's why just be it's it's very similar to this almost the same exact setup. That's that's the mayor's concern on that one is that it literally almost looks the same if you were to put it up on a map right next to this one. So what I'm saying is I would be I would be more inclined to approve things tonight if we could see a couple of those small things. They might be small. I think they're very small asks honestly, but I think that they'll mean they'll be big things to the people who eventually will live here. And none of them are here now, but I can tell you in a year from now, we might people, you know, somebody here saying, "I'm John. I live on Sainer Street." And I'm going to be like, "Here we go." So, I'm just throwing it out there now.

So, we're good with that. Working with staff on some traffic calming measures during our final engineering plan check, which we're going through right now. Matt, you had something you wanted to talk about with lots or something? No, the only the only the comment I had was just I I would disagree with you on the the the road coming through on Partridge just just due to consistency and issues that we've talked about before. That road was made to go through. It's got a dead end right there and now we're going to cut it off. So, you know, the next time we do one, we're going to put it in. We're not going to put it in. So, just want to make it public. I'm not going to not vote no on it because of it. So, you're talking about the dead end from Park Ridge. Yes. What What about it? I'm confused.

It's a dead end road that was designed to go through when this road was put in, and now all of a sudden, we're not putting it in. Oh, I see what you're saying. So, we're setting ourselves up. You're setting yourself up where if somebody's going to come forward and say, "Well, on this such and such project, they left Park Ridge at dead end. Why can't we do that on our street?" I agree that the dead end is kind of a blessing. It's it's an anomaly in my opinion. Um, but I'm not going to lobby to open it. I think you guys are going to get a big gift with having that to be honest with you. Um I won't be on the council when those people come and ask for the next project to have their dead end. Maybe you will be. Um do we have any other public comment? The hearing is still open.

Okay, Mr. Reed.

Yeah, I have uh a few concerns. Number one, uh Miss Bits said that that's one of the last, you know, zone 1As that are up there in in that northern area. So, and with us having, you know, looking for variety in our plans, you know, that kind of there's a lot of R1C up there already, and now we're asking to reszone it now to also to an R1C where we're looking for, you know, that variety. Um, another one of my concerns is to to be honest, the side setback, the the three feet being in public safety like I like I've been, three feet is not a lot of room. If you've got firemen and all these people trying to get to the back the backside or the side of your house, especially if that's where you're going to store your trash cans now, nobody's getting past there. So the six feet o okay still gives you three feet if you got if you put your trash cans there, but if you got the three side side set back and you put your trash cans on the side there, that is going to be causing all kinds of access problems. Plus, that means, you know, some of your houses are going to be not even six feet apart. And so, now we're talking about other possible issues. If one of the houses catches on fire, it makes it easier for the next one to catch on fire. And there's a possibility of, you know, insurance uh being higher because of those. And I know that there's a lot of things that they can do in the building between that what they build them out of and everything else. Those are just some of my concerns where we're looking for variety, but we can't say we're looking for variety. and then sit here and reszone everything to R1C and then the access is those are my two big issues.

You know, now that you're mentioning that, I think I think my sideex I think my neighborhood only has like a three or four foot though. I'm thinking my when I walked down my side gate, it's not six feet. It's probably like three or four. Of course, my house was built in the 60s, but I'm just I'm just thinking out loud. I think Kristen would like to

Oh, I was I was going to respond. Thank you for the comments. Um, first I will say that the project is actually being reszoned to R2 from R1A and the Gutidge subdivision was also originally R1A and was rezoned to R1C. So there has been some movement in the area already. Um, so this is an R2 zone, not an R1C. So it's a little bit higher of a density. It's medium instead of low. And then as to the setbacks, um I can't speak on behalf of our building official, but we know that there are requirements and options in the building codes that um help us work with less setbacks so that safety is achieved, right? We don't want that either. The developer doesn't want that. So I believe there's certain measures that can be put in place due to the reduced setback. And in this case, the reduced setback was really a compromise between the planning commission's wants and the developer in order to make sure that we got those singlestory single stories on lots 1 through 11. Um, and to do that, we needed the developer to one add an additional singlestory floor plan, which he did, but he he needed that reduced setback to achieve a floor plan that was going to have enough variation between the two. So, it wasn't just two 1500 square foot single stories, right? Because we want the variation. We want that street scene to look different from house to house. Um, so I hope that helps.

Yeah. Good. And uh I just got my numbers my letters and numbers wrong. That's all. It's okay. It's it's kind of confusing because the northeast area designation is R1C. So that I think and so I'm just looking at the re at the zoning map and I'm looking at the colors, right? I'm not even going to talk about letters and numbers.

Okay. Um, and there are a lot of certain colors and those are not the ones that are labeled R1A. That's that's all I'm that's all I'm getting at really is that it does appears to me that everything east and north of uh basically the railroad tracks, there is hardly any R1A in that area. And that's what I was getting at. Got it. And that would be true. Elliot Holmes built much of the homes to the east. Um, and those are mostly zoned R1C until you get a little further north and we get into the um, R2s around River Oaks.

So, it's my understand. So, I thank you for explaining that compromise. Again, I I get that I get that the planning commission was very adamant about having the single stories up against the and I appreciate them going to bat for that because that's a huge deal. It really is and I think that the neighbors are surrounding this project and that's a big deal when you look at infill projects is how is this going to assimilate to their surroundings. So, you know, that's one of the conditions that we've been thinking about putting in when we do objective design standards is to make sure that we mesh up single single and double double and all that. Um, I do understand that they had to, you know, tweak those setbacks in order to make that. So, what what is the normal setback? So, originally it was going to be what and you had to make it to 3 ft. What were they originally? four feet, 5T, six. How what was the reduction?

Um the side set back in our code is 5T. Okay, so it was five and they're they're saying they have to reduce it to three because of the of the uh the the means to get a little bigger singlestory floor plan. Right. When you're putting a single story on a same lot as a double story, you have a bigger footprint with the single story. I get that. Yeah. So that again is only applicable to one floor plan, the plan two, not all five floor plans. Right. Okay. But it would be safe to assume that lots 1 through 11 which are getting the single stories that is it a safe to assume that all of those would be getting that side reduction or not. That's not even true.

We're going to rotate plan one, plan two, plan one, plan two. So out of those 11 lots, it's possible that some of them would still have plan. H that makes sense.

Yeah. Well, I would like to make a comment regarding uh the project in general. Look, I mean, you know, a lot of us will sit up here and we'll have people from the public will say, you know, wish we could just continue building homes like Gutidge, for example, you know, 9,000, whatever. But the reality is looking at the Zillow web page. I mean, you know, you have houses in Park, you know, need court and those, you know, like I said, they're $800, $900,000. A real problem we have in this community right now. People could say that they don't want medium density stuff, but the reality is that is a huge problem in our town that we don't have those densities. I have three daughters who could not afford to buy a home in this in and and and if all G was all R1C, they would be never they would never live here. because they can't afford an $800,000 home. The reality is we need some little bit higher density sub uh projects, you know, and these aren't lowincome projects. They're not apartments. They're not any of that stuff. These are going to be, I'm assuming, you know, good quality homes, as good as anybody else's building. And because they're smaller, 1500 some of them, and smart lots, they're going to be a little more affordable than an 8,000t lot with a 2,800T home on it. if we don't create that diversity and Miss Rodriguez stated earlier about how we have some of the highest rent areas around here. I mean, we literally have to, you know, for me quality of life is a big deal in G. And if somebody can't find a place to live in Gaul, that's a quality of life issue for me. I mean, we really have to we have to, you know, say to ourselves, I understand that if I bought a house, I would want it to be this big and this big lot. But the reality is we need some kind of we need do have some product out there that's that's that's going to be a little bit more affordable if that's even obtainable. But so that's just my comments on the project in general and the rezone. I don't really have a problem with the rezone. I think it's I think it's really a mix between the Ashboro neighborhood and what you have over on Park Rage. I think you're going

to it's it's a halfway medium. It's an infill project, which I do support infill. I don't I I don't like sprawl, but I'll support infill. Um, I think some of the concerns that I've had seemed to that the developer seems reasonable to work with us on that kind of stuff. Uh, the tree stuff concerned me a little bit, but I do appreciate them, you know, help working with one of the tenant the the neighbors to save her tree. Um, I mean, I do think it's kind of BS though. They say like, "Oh, we got to protect the trees, but as long as you pay some money, we can take them out." I mean, that's just stupid. We either saving the trees or we're not. I don't know. I'm from California, right? So, anyways, that's just my thoughts on it. Um, I don't know if anybody else wants to add anything before we try to wrap this up. I know Matt doesn't good,

Bonnie. Tim, no. Just thank you for being patient with us. We've been through a lot lately with developers, so thank you. Been a pleasure working with you guys. Thank you. Well, like I said, I think the planning commission did a good job with really going to bat for some of the things that we would have been fighting for. I think we've asked for a couple things. I know Kim, you have some concern with the setbacks, but um I think it's probably going to be a small number. Um if anybody wants to propose a motion, you have to close the

Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. Do we have any additional public comment? Last chance to speak. All right. I'm going to close the public hearing. And with that, if there's no further discussion, I'll be looking for someone to propose some sort of motion. Well, I didn't hear anybody wanting to change anything specific. The only thing The only thing I had was, you know, we don't that's not on here is locking it into the specific number of lots, but we're assuming that they're going to build. Is that not already locked in? Uh, it is. It's 65 lots. Sure, it is now, but if they sell it to somebody, then they changed it. We're not going to do that.

Yeah, they'd have to, but that's and that's what happened in the other one, right? That's exactly what happened. So, anyway, I'll uh I'll make a motion to uh to move as stated in the uh in the posted um agenda. All right. Well, I have a motion on the floor to approve us, but I have a question for Frank. What would be required if they were to change the amount of lot sizes? What would that require them to do? That would be a major amendment to the subdivision map and that would come before the planning commission and city council which has that couldn't happen under the cover of darkness. I mean it would be very visible to public hearings. Greg Kristen.

Yeah, I'm aware of that because that's exactly what happened. And there's no way to lock that in with some sort of motion here to say that they cannot go more than the 65 anyone they whether they sold it or not more than the 65 lots.

We can't lock them in beyond their right to seek an amendment at any time. The staff could tell them we're not going to recommend it. We don't think it's going to pass, but they can take the risk if they want for future development. But the gatekeeper is still going to be the planning commission, the city council. So, um, you can't bind future councils or planning commissions with these entitlements, but you can force them to do an amendment to do that, right? And I understand all those things. I'm just saying if they sell it to somebody else, it is zoned to build 76 houses. But Mr. What was the gentleman? I'm sorry, I forgot your name that came. You would have to bring it back.

Mr. Aaron. Well, but Aaron already came up and talked about how how much integrity his company had and all that and he gave me his word that they weren't going to sell the project. I know. I mean, I'm just saying I trusted you. It's in the minutes. I be surprised how things in the minutes don't seem to apply later on though. But anyways, my only point. So,

no, it's a fair point. I would just say the last change that occurred it, you know, right or wrong, there was a subdivision map change that happened and it went through the the process. So, um, you know, I I can't I'll stop talking. I just think it's probably pretty unlikely on these facts because you have a project that's ready almost nearly shovel ready in terms of the grading and some of the civil and so you would have to do a lot to change it to get the 76 lots. Well, I think what Miss Rodriguez is concerned is that we we we we're approving we're getting ready to approve something that says the minimum has to be at least 38 what 100. So they could possibly that's really the only condition. So they could come back and say, "Well, we we thought it was going to be 65, but it's really going to be more like 75 now, but we're still meeting the condition of the 30, someundred foot lots." I mean, that's really the only thing we have that has teeth in it is that condition with the with the lot size,

right? Am I wrong? Well, the 65 lots, that's the subdivision map. There is no wiggle room with respect to that based on the current map. Correct. Correct. Yeah. Okay. Unless they amend. Correct. Okay. Um and so would it so I understand your motion. Would an alternate motion need to be done if I wanted to make So we already there there's already a condition that exists that says they're going to work with engineering on the traffic calming stuff that I talked about, right? So that's already in there. Okay. Yes. So I don't need to make another I don't need to make a motion to add anything because that's already in there. Is that correct? Yeah. I'm not going to die in the head.

They're spelled out. It's spelled out in the MMRP. If you want to add a condition, would it be to the map to the tenative subdivision map that says Sorry. So, amend Oh, sorry. Go ahead. It would be a to if you for to belt and suspenders, you would do a condition and you would amend the tenative subdivision map and not so you wouldn't amend it. You would add a condition to the tenative subdivision map. Okay. And and for the record, this happens all the time. Yes, it happens. Conditions are added at sometimes at public hearings to tenative maps. So, this isn't completely unheard of. Okay. Um, so then I could propose an alternate motion with adding a condition. I don't think we need to propose an alternate cuz we only have a first on the floor. We don't have a second. Okay.

So, perhaps Mr. Prattton would be willing to amend his motion to include that language or you could, you know, it's up to you all, but I don't know if someone want to second Mr. Prattton's motion or I can ask Mr. Prattton if he would like to. Yeah. Matt, do you want to change that? Yeah, I'll I'll I'll uh change it as stated and add the condition of uh of of the uh even though it's in there of the 76 lots down to 65 lots. Maximum of 65 lots. No, the condition we're asking for is the traffic me traffic measures measures. No, the traffic stuff. I'm not Okay. Why don't you Why don't Why don't somebody that knows what they want to say? We have a first. We haven't got a second yet. So that technically

motion. There's no second. It dies. There's no second. So anyone can make another first. Well, then I propose a motion to approve with the addition of condition requiring traffic cone measures on uh Ser Street uh to be determined in consultation in consultation with city golf public works. Is that good enough language, Frank? Yes, for me it is. Do I have a second on that or does somebody want to try round three? I'll second that. All right. I have motion on the floor by the mayor, seconded by council member Rodriguez. Roll call, please. Council member Prattton, I. Council member Reid,

no. Council member Rodriguez, I. Mayor Farmer, I. Uh, three to one approved. All right. Somebody asked Somebody has to. Yeah. Can someone let the vice mayor back in, please? I think the chief went and got him. Not fair. He got to go take a nap. Take a little one minute break here real quick. Let him regain his seat. Want to thank the public for your comments and coming tonight. Thank you.

I'll be looking forward to coming by your house and seeing your Christmas lights, Mr. Griswald. won't need to come by. We just watch from my house if it looks like Griswald.

All right. Thank you. Welcome back, Mr. Vice Mayor. We are going to move on to item H, regular city calendar or regular calendar, I'm sorry. Uh, city council's office. We have the city council public benefit fund. Miss Rodriguez. or Miss Clerk, I can just The recommendation is approved by motion allocating Council Member Rodriguez's $1,000 allotted public benefit funds to the Sunshine Food Pantry and Resource Center. And I'll turn it over to Miss Rodriguez if she has any other information. Um, no additional information other than um, you know, the season's kind of upon us and this is kind of a tough time for people in the community. So, I just thought this would be

Thank you for the presentation, Miss Bits. I'm sorry. You're fine. Just want to say before she walked on the door. Go ahead. Sorry. Apologies. Well, nothing more. Just that I think this is a a good re or a good organization to uh that helps our community tremendously. So, I agree. So, do we need a mo do we need a vote on this or is it So, I'll make a motion to approve. I'll second. All right. Motion made by Miss Rodriguez, second by Prattton. Roll call, please. Vice Mayor Sandeu, I. Council member Prattton. Hi. Council member Reid. I. Council member Rodriguez. I. Mayor Farmer.

Yes. Approved to approve 50. All right. Next item is going to be the city treasures office. The subject is the treasury report for period ending September of 2025. Mr. Frell.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. the tonight. I always give you some statistics, so let me give you those just right off the bat. Yes, some of it is housing, and I'm afraid I I'm going to say something about that. So, anyway, here it goes. Um, unemployment rate first for the city city uh of G 5.2% according to ED. The in comparison, the unemployment rate for the Sacramento County is 5.5%. Um, and the ED says that there's 12,200 people in employed within in the city. Now, for the um housing information, I'm going to give you the housing information for 2 months from October 1st through November 30th. There were 39 houses that were sold. The um median was the three-bedroom, two bath, which very average starter home. Say um 1300 square I'm sorry, 13 I'm sorry, 1,730 square ft. I hate to talk about the lot size now, but um it's uh the lot size was.16, which equates to 7,148 as far as the lot size. Okay. Now, the the number that you all want is the uh actual closed sales price. The median sales the closed sales price was $530,000. Okay. The um of those of those 46% or 18 of the homes of the 39 were sold within 30 days. Okay. And uh 86% or if I do the math right, let me see 16

34 of those 39 homes were sold within 90 days. Okay, so there is a demand. There's one point of clarification that I want to clear up. And approximately four or five months ago, Council Member Rodriguez, you asked me whether the new brand new homes are included in this MLS listing. the at the time I answered yes that's partially true and I'll explain it's partially true partially not true if those new developments wish to utilize the MLS then that that is included in here but if they do not choose to use it then it's not included so I just wanted to a point of clarification okay um now for the treasures report for ending September of 2025. The uh we have approximately 78% of our portfolio that is in um I'll say the quasi government bond market. What I mean by that is that the majority of our bonds are through that we purchase are through the Federal Home Loan Bank, some with Fanny May, some with Freddy Mack. Um we even have even a Farmer Mack. Okay. So we do invest with that. Now, as you know and as I've said, interest rates have been trending down. The Federal Reserve is going to meet next week, next Wednesday, December the 10th. Um they're going to announce whether they're going to change rates or not again. And and um high speculation um that is in fact they will issue another rate cut. Now, what that means for investors and including the city of G is then we're going to not be able to get those those uh 4%s that I'm getting

now. We're going to have to go a little bit below the 4% range. Um so well for the first quarter of this fiscal year we earned approx approximately one uh1,400,000 in interest income which you can't you can't multiply that by four and say and predict this is where we're going to be because rates have been coming down. That 1.4 4 million was based upon many bonds that we're holding at let's say four and a half to 5% which of which they have been called. So they've been redeemed back. Right now as I said I'm I'm able to get 4%. But and as soon as the rate cut comes in I'll probably have to go below that 4% mark. So with that, I will answer any questions that the city council has and uh otherwise I ask for your approval for the treasures report as of September 2025.

Well, thank you, Mr. Farrell. Always appreciate your information, especially making it uh understandable to the public because it's their money, so make them understand.

Yep. Um, you were saying the rate cut is anticipated, but our money is all locked in at the rates we're hitting now for at least a while, right? But you have very some of your stuff matures at different times and stuff. So, right, there's there's different maturities by government code. I cannot go beyond 5 years. Okay. But when I purchase these bonds, they are what are called collable bonds. So, in other words, I get a little bit higher rate of interest, but it allows the issuer, say the Federal Home Loan Bank to be able to call that bond back. Okay. So, when they call that bond back, they take it back and we we no longer at are at that 5% or 4%.

Is that common when rates click down just a quarter percent or whatever? Is it usually take a bigger drop for them to start doing that? It's usually uh about 35 basis points or or 35 of a rate drop.

So it's sometimes they get called, sometimes you know they don't they get extended for say three more months or for another month. So within our portfolio there's many bonds that I have that are monthly calls or quarterly calls. I also have um annual calls. So, it's it every single one is a variety. Now, if anybody in the public would like to look at that information and see what kind of bonds that we have, it's available on the on the city of G's treasures web page and we publish the um the monthly reports every single month. So they can actually see exactly what transactions are happening and which ones have been called and which ones that I've purchased and you know at what rate. It goes into I think some pretty good detail as far as it provides you know when it was settled um what the maturity date is, what's the yield or the or the rate that we get, the next call date, the um next interest pay date, and also then what we've earned so far year to date, fiscal year to date.

They can see all that on there. Yeah, they can see it all on there. See how much Bitcoin you've bought. I'm joking for those watching at home. Bitcoin's going down. So, all right. But, um, yeah, if I I as treasure, I want to be fully transparent to because to to all the, um, citizens of this community because it is your money and and that's something that you have to remember. It is the it is our taxpayers money. But on the flip side, the good news is that rates are coming down and people who are looking to buy a home could could possibly make it affordable.

The the mortgage rate has ticked down a little bit. if oh boy I think the last time I looked it was little just a touch above six and I do anticipate that going down say maybe below six but I I got to be honest right now I don't see just with that one additional rate cut next week I think it might go down below six but um it's going to take a few more rate cuts if in order to make a further a further dent

does anybody have any questions for Mr. Frell. All right. Well, I will be looking for I folded my agenda up. What did I do? Looking for a motion to approve the treasury report. Moved by Vice Mayor Sandu. Second. Seconded by Council Member Reid. Can I have a roll call, please? Vice Mayor Sandeue. I. Council member Prattton. I. Council member Reid. I. Council member Rodriguez. I. Mayor Farmer. Yes. Thank you very much. Reports 50. Just want to add that you're earning every penny of that $400 a month you make for for the record. It's 600 600 per month. Okay. All right. Just for the record.

Well, that million dollar interest you made for us was worth every bit of that $600 you make. Thank you. Thank you. It's the best rate of return you're ever going to get. That's right. The best investment we ever made was hiring someone so cheap like yourself. Yeah. All right. On to item J. The subject is is from the city clerk's office. Uh subject is the mayor and vice mayor appointments. Miss Hubert. So first we're going to have a little presentation before we move on. Are you going to take a picture? Okay. Mayor Farmer, if you can

both of us or just one just you both. No, just

so we'd like to present this plat to you for your dedication and service as mayor for this past year. Uh I know we don't pay you enough uh for the time that you put in, but it is greatly appreciated certainly by staff and I know by the community and the success you've had and you as a mayor and council is showing here. The fact that we have one in the audience is good news. That means things are going well. So the council should be uh congratulated for how good things are going and you're a big part of that. So thank you very much. I really appreciate it. [Applause] Mr. Mr. Would you like to join me up front getting your exercise today? They made yours bigger.

It's for the greater good.

You already have better than I'm sure you can find this. I want to thank you. I want to thank you um you know for being the vice mayor. I appreciate you being my second and obviously you done a little before and you did an excellent job but appreciate you being vice mayor there for this last year and appreciate [Applause] I smell You know, all right.

Okay. So, the action is to appoint a new mayor and vice mayor if city council desires with terms ending December 2026. and I am going to turn it over to the city attorney for explanation.

Yeah, we're going to try something new this year. We're going to have a written ballot process. Uh under the Brown Act though, there can be no secret ballots. So, the council before you is a a ballot that we are going to do the mayor selection of the mayor first. So, um I don't want you to vote and then say, "Oh, I didn't know it was for the mayor." So, I'm telling you now it's for the mayor. Uh you'll see the ballot simply says your name and you vote for and then there's a blank fill in that name. The name you will be writing will be the name of your choice for selection of mayor. Once we're all done, we will hand those to the city clerk. She will read out the council member uh and their vote for each of the and we'll do that for all of all the council members. If we have a majority, then that person will be the mayor. If not, then we will do it again until we get a mayor selected. Once a mayor is selected through this written ballot, we will then do the same exact drill with a vice mayor. And again, I just want to emphasize that uh under the Brown Act, there can be no secret ballots. So, there will be uh the clerk will audibly report out each council member selection for mayor and vice mayor. And again, if we have a majority, we'll move on to the vice mayor. And then once that's done, the item will be concluded. Um, that's once we get to the actual vote. Like any other agenda item though, mayor, you have the ability to discuss, council's ability to discuss, deliberate. Um, and then obviously make sure we go to public comment too before the written vote. And if you have any questions during this process, happy to help.

All right. Thank you, Frank. So, what we're going to do is I'm going to ask if there's any nominations from any of the council members for anyone to be the mayor and then I will um uh so whether it's one, two, or whatever. Um we'll allow ample time and then I will allow a period if anybody wants to make any comments and we will ask for public comment if there is any. So, with that, does anybody would like to put forward a nomination for mayor? Yes. I I do have a question for Frank, though. Yeah. When when we put forth the nomination, are we basing this off the nomination or are we picking I wouldn't even I wouldn't even say

you have to vote for someone that's nominated. That's what he's asking. No, you do not have to vote for anyone that's nominated. This is this is a discussion period. It's a good question. This is a discussion period. You can advocate for somebody to be voted on and approved by your colleagues. So it's it's slightly a semantic thing. Um but ult but there has to be a nomination in order for but there doesn't have to be a nomination. Okay.

You you know the way the way that I foresee this happening is the council discusses deliberates like they could any other item. They may say I think so and so would be a candidate or so and so would be a good candidate. You may be able to a council member could say listen I I think I'm I'm leaning towards this as the candidate for mayor. you can discuss amongst yourselves, fill each other out on that issue, but then ultimately there's going to be uh a written vote by each of the members. And so that's why it's no guarantee it'll come out. All right. So, would anybody like to put forth a nomination? Yes. I'd like to nominate Mr. Rodriguez.

Okay. And I would like to put forth a nomination to nominate Mr. Sandu to return as mayor. Is there any other nominations? And if not, then we will have an time for discussion. All right. Does anybody want to make a comment of any sort? Yes. Go ahead.

Um, so my my reasoning is, uh, you know, I think everybody up here is qualified. I don't have a problem with anybody up here. Um, but I've always been an advocate for for change, for, you know, shuffling the cards a little bit. So, I know you two have done a great job and uh very highly uh qualified, but I think Miss Rodriguez is very well qualified due to her background and the many many many meetings that she's been in and u that's why I'm advocating for her. All right. Thank you, sir. Any other comments? Well, I would just like to say that I've put forth Paul's name again. Um it is unknown whether Mr. Sandeu will run for another um term. I know I will not be and so um coming to a close. I was just offering the chance for him to be the mayor one last time before his term is over. And and again as Matt stated he did a great job when he was the mayor. Um and we were both served as mayor through some really tough times co to say the least. Um, and he's more than sufficient to do it. And not to undermine Mr. Rodriguez's ability, 100% agree that her or any of us could do the job. Um, but uh, but that's why I'm putting his his name forth is I I think uh, give him a chance to do it again one more time for it. So, there's no further comment. All right. Any public comment?

No public comment. All right. No public comment. All right. So, we'll write down our names on who we're voting for. Are you going to come around and collect them from us? Yep. When you're finished.

All right. Sorry, I'm used to typing, not writing. I thought that was me.

Yeah, save that just in case. Or Hold on. Here we go. All right, for the record, just reading as received, no particular order. Tim Reid votes for Bonnie Rodriguez. Bonnie Rodriguez votes for Bonnie Rodriguez. Shawn Farmer votes for Paul Sandeue. Paul Sandeu votes for Paul Sandeue. Matt Prattton votes for Bonnie Rodriguez. So, we have a majority vote for Bonnie Rodriguez for mayor. All right. Congratulations, Mr. Rodriguez.

We'll move on to vice mayor. Uh, anybody want to put forth a nomination? I will nominate Sean as vice mayor. I will nominate Mr. Prattton as vice mayor. Oh, no. Well, I was going to nominate Mr. Tim Reid. This will be interesting. Okay. Anybody? All right. We have three nominations. Anybody want to make any comment?

I'll kick it off. Um, first of all, I thank you very much for your offer to be the vice mayor. I appreciate your support, Mr. Mr. Sandu. Uh, but I put forth Matt's name because uh, you know, Matt is has a lot of experience. He's been a schoolboard member. He's been in elected office before he was in the city council. Um I think he does an excellent job. He's very um pragmatic and you know I think he's an asset to this council. So I think uh in honor of you know putting some new blood in in these positions I am supporting Matt. Where anybody else comment? No.

Yeah I'll make a comment. Um I again it's one of those things we're all qualified for. Uh and so and I would be happy to serve with any any one of you. Uh I did put forth Tim's name. I feel like he brought something a little he brings a little bit different um with his EMS background um things that I don't think about very often. And so that that's what came to my mind for um nominating him. So, all right. Any public comment? No public comment.

All right. With that, we'll uh move forward with our balance. All right. So, for Vice Mayor, Sean Farmer votes for Matt Prattton. Tim Reid votes for Tim Reid. Bonnie Rodriguez votes for Tim Reid. Paul Sandeu votes for Matt Prattton. And Matthew Prattton votes for Tim Reed. So we have majority vote for Tim Reed.

Congratulations, sir. Thank you.

All right. Moving on. Comments by staff. Uh yes, we have uh parks and recck director soles.

Good evening, Mayor City Council. I just wanted to bring a couple of things to your attention. Uh we completed the sports complex playground and we will be having a ribbon cutting on this Saturday at 1 p.m. Following that, we'll have the lighting of the night parade. Um so just so you know, we last year we had 78 uh uh entries. As of today, we have 79. So, it'll it'll be bigger than last year. Also, we will be doing a few things different uh due to the new route. We will have a new entrance. Um and we'll be sending those out to the people that have registered floats. Uh we also launched our parks and wreck guide uh today. It's a digital guide. Um Jackie Garcia will be here uh next council meeting to give you a presentation on it and to provide you written or uh printed copies. So

and assistant city manager Mendes.

Good evening, Mayor and Council. Um wanted to just give everybody a quick economic development update. Uh, we did have the planning commission approved a cup for Grocery Outlet at their last meeting and um I spoke with the representative with Grocery Outlet. Sounds like they have um received plan review approval for their buildout. So, we anticipate them hopefully occupying um the space of the former Wraid um early in 2026. They'll be starting construction sometime in January, it sounds like. And then in addition in the same shopping center um the former subway location is going to be occupied by Wingstop and so Wingstop will be taking over the subway location. Um additionally one of the um spaces formerly occupied by Squeeze um Squeezeburger is becoming available and so we've been in contact with the property owner there um and we are there's a lot of interest in the site because it's an existing restaurant buildout. So, um I think we will see that occupied relatively quickly. So, report out as soon as we have a tenant for that space, but uh lots of activity going on in that uh shopping center there where tractor supply is. So, just wanted to give you guys a quick update on that.

And then lastly, police chief Kalinowski.

Uh thank you. Congratulations, Madame Mayor, Mr. Vice Mayor. It's going to be different to say. Um, so Tuesday, um, I mentioned it before, we will have, um, our open house for the holiday at the PD from 4:00 to 6:00 p.m. It's a Charlie Brown Christmas this year. And so staff's worked hard to present, uh, the facility and, uh, the things for the kids to look at. Um, we'll have Santa, so you can get pictures with Santa, we have hot chocolate, um, some of the same things that you've seen in the past. But, uh, we're ready for it and it should be a good time and we look forward to this, uh, this weekend and of course next week. So, thank you. That's all I have. All right. Comments by city council members. Future agenda items. Mr. Prattton.

No future agenda items. I did attend some other things besides the cast meeting on the 17th. Back on the 5th, I went to a biomass meeting in Sacramento. Um, I bring this up because, you know, the discussion of hydrogen and those types of things came up. And this is this is kind of what the biomass is about is creating energy off of off of plants. So, andor other biomass things. And and what's going on is there's multiple plants that are a lot of them have been created. many of them have failed. You know, a lot of these projects are your grant monies and stuff and um we'll probably continue to see more of that. But there are a couple of plants that are that are pretty successful up in the mountains right now. They're taking uh they're taking the waste from the trees that are being chopped up and uh throwing them in. I believe both of those facilities are creating electricity off of off of burning the trees. Um, but they can do other things. They can do hydrogen and stuff. So, anyway, it was very interesting. If anybody's interested in the information, I I can uh give you that information. I don't want to go into great detail. Uh, on 11:12, I went to Helping Hand Association. 11:12 Parks and Recck Commission meeting. 11:13 Planning Commission. Uh 11:20, Chamber of Commerce lunchon where TJ spoke. That was great. Um 11:21, uh the Liberty Ranch football playoff, of course. So, uh the only thing I wanted to comment on all these things is, you know, it's kind of nice to go to these meetings and see all the different faces that are being involved in our community. You know, we do what we do here, but there are many people

out there doing it. And you know this I always try to talk about the growth of our city and this this is a positive because of our growth. We have more people that participate and and uh you know there was a lot of faces I didn't even know at some of these places and so u great job. It's all I got. All right. Thank you sir. Mr. Sandal

uh few things one thing there is no agenda item. Uh same thing on November 20th. Uh I did attend uh chamber lunching with the uh council member Bratton and uh there was a good discussion uh from the city employees TJ and Carlos Lario. They did explain about uh the business license uh how you can get the new business license and how you renew it and good job and I also like to thank you for the public comment and uh thank you for the staff their hard work and congratulation to the mayor and vice mayor. Thank you. That's all uh Mr. Mayor.

All right. Thank you sir. Vice Mayor Reid.

Thank you. Uh the first thing I wanted to point out was uh Mr. Ciss and Parks and Wreck. Um I'm I'm involved in the basketball. I'm coaching my son's basketball team and it didn't come out until like it didn't wasn't obvious to me this last week everything that they've got going on on Saturday. So, I really wanted to say thank you to them and all of his team because they have picture day for basketball in the in the morning. Then they have exhibition in the afternoon. They have the they have the ribbon cutting and then they have the the the parade at night. So, his team is going to be working all day on Saturday, probably through till late hours of the night. So, I just wanted to point all that out so that everybody else knew and to say thank you. Uh, and then thanks to everybody else for for doing all their uh hard work. And I did have one question for Trunk. I know I'm kind of springing this on you, but uh do we have any updates or maybe somebody else can answer on the pallet yard or I don't know what we're calling it, the ant farm. What the location the ant farm? Um I anybody and you can and you can come back later if you want.

I'll have to come back to you. I I do know there was a a contract that was executed with um cow waste and so there was a process there and I believe we just handed over to them but uh I can follow up with an updated I'm blaming this one on Matt because he talked about grinding up you know the trees and making energy and I know that's what we were doing with the pallets. So

could be enough waste there to do a biomass plant. I can um just briefly update on that item. I had reached out to um public works a couple weeks ago because we are looking to um advertise that property for lease and so working with an industrial broker to potentially start marketing that site. So I did um engage to kind of find out and it looks like within the next couple of weeks that site will be completely cleaned up. Nice. And then um we will start advertising that um out to industrial users for a temporary use for the next five to seven years until the construction of the interchange starts. So and we are being very picky on who we will be leasing the site to. Um obviously sales tax and job creation are are most important. Uh there are some limitations on the site because it doesn't have infrastructure uh readily accessible. So well and septic are on the property and that's kind of what we have to work with. So um probably won't see any structures built out there but um hopefully we can find a good user for the next couple of years.

Perfect. Thank you. That's all. All right, Mayor Rodriguez. Uh, first of all, I'd like to thank my fellow council members for the confidence and uh, I hope I can live up to the two stalwart gentlemen to my left that uh, have led us. So, I'm probably will lean on you quite a bit. Um, I just real quick, um, because of what we approved tonight with the, um, housing or with that development, are we any closer? Do we have a timeline on when we're going to have all of our non um anyway all of our rules of what we're you know standards.

Yeah. Our standards. Yeah. My goal is to get those to planning commission in February. I have a draft that I'll be um circulating internally for review, but I'm hoping February planning commission then ideally March council. Perfect. That sounds great. Um other than that, I'm looking forward to Saturday. Probably not as much as Armando's looking forward to it, I guess. Do you get the week off after or what if we were to make a motion? But he doesn't know it yet.

Okay. Um and also I will be in trouble when I get home if I do not mention to Mr. Prattton that apparently a little birdie has told me that um someone at the federal level is working on a b biomass bill. So maybe somehow that will trickle down to help support get, you know, help California and help our area to support um moving things along in that area. Um and I did want to bring back up a little bit what I talked about about transit and hydrogen. I know that there was a little bit of chatter at one point of a hydrogen station of some sort being put into G. I think um I'm just putting it out there. might be worth the conversation with because with um I think it was Air Products um because it sounds like Seikk is looking for some sort of business partner on that front and I it might be something that we can all help each other on. So

the facility at the end of Twin Cities is still a go. So yeah,

I can pass that information on. So it just I just I you know as they were talking I kept thinking this might be something you know they're t there's a lot of talk but there's talking about you know if if we go to hydrogen for public transit that um that instead of everybody trying to build their own because that would be much more expensive that somehow they do things regionally. Um obviously we're at the tail end of everything so no one's going to think of us unless we put it out there and we have a local company that might want to partner with us. So, just something to think about. Um, and uh, anyway, just want to put it there. And again, have a great, uh, lighting of the night. I think it's going to be a great evening. So,

all right. Thank you. Um, yeah, thanks for asking about the design center. I was going to bring that up. Um, uh, first, uh, because I have a question, just want to say thank you, Trunk, for filling in as our public works director. Um, we appreciate you stepping into that. Um, and with that, I have a question. Do we have a timeline on when the Adairway discussion is going to come back? I know we were presented with some options, and I don't know where we kind of left that off with. Uh, we'll come back to you with a uh timeline. We don't have that at this point. Okay. I just didn't want to. Um,

understood.

All right. Um, I want to say thanks to parks and public works, whichever both of you appreciate the leave cleanup. There's a ton of people out there doing leave cleanup for the parade and it was a lot. So, they were doing a good job. Um, so I want to thank you for for all that. Um, I know you guys have your parks and wreck. Well, actually, there's many people involved, including PD with street closures and things like that, but it's uh I know it's going to be like the Super Bowl on Saturday. So, hopefully it goes off without a hitch. I'm looking forward to it. Should be a great thing. And this is one of the reasons why people love our town is the great parades. So, I know we won't disappoint. Um, see, I had something else. I'm not going to ask about that. So lastly, just congrats to uh Vice Mayor Reid. I'm sure you'll do a good job. Obviously, congratulations to you, Miss Rodriguez. I'm sure you'll do a great job. Um you have plenty of knowledge and you've been around enough these meetings to know how they work and I think you'll do a good job running it. Um just a little bit of advice from someone like Paul and I who have done this for quite some time. My only advice to you is being the mayor, you tend to get beat up. If there's not something going right in town, people tend to think it's your fault and you have total control over it. People don't always look at the, you know, there's a five person thing. So, you just got to roll with that stuff and don't take it personally. I know it's tough, but um but people will try to hold you accountable solely. So, thicken your skin up because you'll need it. And uh but we're all here to support you and if you need anything, you know, you can always ask and of course um you know, I think you're do I think you're going to do a good job and congratulations on being the sixth female mayor that G has had. So with that, I just want to say thank you for my role as a mayor. I appreciate it.

It's bittersweet, but it's probably going to be the last time I'll ever do it. And uh to not know that I'll probably never run a another meeting and I'll never get to go up here and delay the meeting a little longer to see who wins the bets. But uh yeah, but it's been great. Like I said, it's been bittersweet. I'm sure I'll look back at it with fond memories. Um but it's it's been tough, but I'm glad to finally relinquish it and pass the baton on to somebody else. So again, congrats. And with that, I will adjourn the meeting. 817. Good night.