Parks and Recreation Commission - Regular Meeting

Alright. The April 13 meeting of the City of Fullerton Parks and Recreation Commission will now come to order at 06:21PM. Would the secretary please call roll?

Yes. Chair McKendree?

Here.

Vice chair Freeman?

Here.

Commissioner Mondonado?

Here.

And commissioner Saloveva is out.

Alright. I will now ask that commissioner Freeman lead us in the pledge of allegiance.

Everybody, please stand.

Alright. Well, first, I offer my apologies. If anyone has attended this meeting in the past, you realize that this meeting has typically started at 06:30, and there was a motion on the table last meeting. Last time we met two months ago now to change the time to six. However, I clearly missed that that was actually approved by council. So I'm tardy. It's my fault. I apologize. With that, I'd like to ask staff if there's any department updates this evening.

Good evening, chair and commissioners. We do have a department update presentation in front of you that's loading. We'll go through that. And this is covering April 2026. Next slide, please.

Alright. And we have our supervisors for each division that will share their information to their respective slides.

Hello, commissioners. I'll be covering our parks, trails, and sports fields For the month of May over at the tennis center, we had over a thousand reservations, more than a 100, class participations, and over 300, private lessons. In the month of March, we had, over 1,000 reservations, 89 class participations, and over 300 private lessons. And sticking with the tennis center, I I am happy to announce that we're gonna start our project for the conversion of the pickleball courts, over at the tennis center. So you'll be seeing some social media posts about that.

Contractor expects the project to last about two weeks. So we'll we'll invite you guys out, you know, to enjoy, some pickleball. And, also, we do we we have our summer spray pull hours. This year, we are doing a change. In years past, we we kept our spray pulls open from twelve to five, and now we are doing a an hour, hours change, from 10AM to 6PM, seven days a week starting Memorial Day weekend into Labor Day, and these include Adelina Park, our Downtown Plaza, Lemon Park, and Valentia Park. And I like to note that the Downtown Plaza spray pool is on, during the farmer's market.

This past month in March in partnership with the Fullerton Collaborative and the NextGen committee, subcommittee, we did host our first Youth in Government Day here in the city of Fullerton, at City Hall. This event was a kind of a a plan from the collaborative to engage our youth within our city. So we invited seventh and eighth graders and and high school students from the Fullerton high schools. And the same for the junior highs. We had about 40 attendees, 10 from the junior highs and 30 from the high schools, mostly like the political science, US history students, and in partnership with the Fullerton School District and the Fullerton Union High School.

So they were so the day included a rotation from departments, which is fire, police, public works, parks and recreation, our finance department, our economic development and planning, and it culminated with our our mayor Jeong presented at their lunchtime and culminated in a mock election of their I believe it was their favorite special event in the city. So the students had the experience of registering for the election, led by our city clerk's office, and then they voted, during that time. So we're looking to, you know, grow this event, because there are a lot of interested students that just really enjoyed coming to City Hall. Unfortunately, we did meet at the Library Conference Room because this room was under construction during the time. So in future years, we do hope to have kind of a more mock election to culminate the event.

But it was it was really fun. Here's a few pictures. That's a hands only CPR. The Fullerton Police Department did tours of their facility, and the fire department also kinda did a presentation of their engine. And the public works team, I believe, brought out their sewer truck, and they were able to take a look through that.

Parks and recreation did kind of a walk through the community center with some activities. Our ASD or finance team did a kind of a budget game, like a connect for budget activity where all the money goes in a city. And then I believe our economic development did a thorough presentation of their department and, gave out some good good little giveaways. So it was a good event, and thank you to the Fullerton Collaborative, the high school district, and the, elementary district here in Fullerton for their support.

Good evening. We did kick off our first committee yard sale of the year on March 7. We had about over 40 spaces sold with a coffee truck in the morning. And it was extremely windy that day, but I would like to assure that people still came to shop and vendors were really excited to still be there. So it was really fun just to bring it back and going through the windy challenges, but very safely.

We made sure that everything was, either anchored down or they had weights or sandbags, so that we kept the event going in a safely manner. And then we also did host our spring extravaganzas plus our wedding expo on Saturday, March 30. So on this slide shows you a little bit of the outside activities that we had. So we had over 20 vendors outside. We had entertainment, live music, and, like, a butterfly booth, a drum circle, and then we also had photos with the spring bunny.

And on the next slide, you'll see that on the inside, offered our next slide. We offered our spring expo, which is our wedding expo. So we were able to have over 13 vendors inside that had free food tastings, mocktail free free mocktails, a photo booth that was also free. Everything was free. It was really cool.

Party rentals display of video videographers, photo photographers just to really market what kind of rentals and that people could get a view of how the Hunt library could look if they were to rent it out and a few offerings from our local or really close vendors. In addition to that, we did work with Anaheim Feed to offer our our dog village. So as you can see, there's also dog village that was hosted inside the Pooch Park that had over, I believe, 15 vendors. They had a lot of giveaways, a lot of, like, craft had a little, like, picnic display for their dogs to take pictures with them, photographers as well, and a lot of other cool activities for the dogs or the pets that were able to were leashed inside this pooch bark. And on the next slide, we can show the free the free egg hunt that we were able to offer.

So we were be able to offer the free senior expo. Then we did an adapted egg hunt, and then we also did the we were followed by the kids' free egg hunt. So we offered it about five of these. So it's a lot of people that were able to participate in the egg hunt. The Fullerton night market returned last week.

So we had over 45 vendors, live music, the splash pad was on, food vendors, and craft vendors. We did we did get a large number of attendings that showed up for our kickoff last week. And we proudly wanted to share that. We were also honored the CPRS hall of fame for Parks Make Life Better, and I brought the medal so you guys can check that out. So we're really, really honored to be hosting this event and winning awards and just keeping the momentum going.

So it just got started, and we can't wait to incorporate our theme nights, more live bands, and more vendors throughout the season. So it started last week, April 2, and it's gonna end on Thursday, September 3. And then for other upcoming events, so we are gonna do our next community art tell on May 2. So that is still open up for spaces. People can find information on our website.

We do also have banners all over Fullerton where people can scan and locate the applications for future opportunities for them to be there and also to come out and shop. And then we are also hosting our first ever Fullerton Coffee Fest. That's gonna take place on Saturday, March 30 at the Humpbratch Library. Recreational programs. Next slide.

So recreation programs just continue as we have been our ongoing youth and teen classes. Next slide. We were able to host our our Richmond Grant Camp Out family camp out. It was at Camp Commerce. We had about 14 families with a total of 35 participants that were there for the weekend.

They left on Saturday morning, returned Sunday afternoon. They were able to participate with hikes, arts and crafts. They had catering outside at the campsite, so we were really excited to bring this, new adventure on for our Richmond, community. And in addition to that, we were able to, we've maxed out for our spring camp that took place on March 26 through March 30. So we had a total of a 100 participants at the Hillcrest Camp.

And then within that week, we were able to have an on-site entertainment. So we had, like, a reptile show. We had a staff led hike that took them hiking and show, like, a show and tell of equipment of hiking gear. And then they finalized it by go going in an excursion to urban air, and they had such a great time. But it was really cool to see that the camp maxed out. Thank you.

In the arts and cultural division, we are hosting, multiple senior, programs, the senior ukulele jam, our drum circle, and discover Fullerton on foot, and including the Crafternoon. So these are popular programs for senior, population, especially the discover Fullerton on foot and the senior walks that we host.

Good evening. I will be going over our older adult programs and our private rentals over at the Fullerton Community Center. So about few a few weeks ago, we had our spring camp for our older adults. It was a lovely program. It was a week long program, Monday through Friday. We had 13 campers. The week was filled with connection, creativity, movement, and fun. Our staff really designed this program to ensure that they get all you know, they get physical wellness, creative expression, cognitive engagement, and then give them a social environment as well. So we did tai chi sessions, pot painting, spring cards, eggs, birdhouse decorating, quilling. We even had some trivia games, and then we ended the week on off with the social.

So it was a very, very fun week, and we're looking forward to hosting our summer one as well. In February or yeah. In February, we had our winter formal. This one was a huge success. We completely filled up. We even had a wait list. We had 80 participants. The whole night was filled with music. Everybody was up and dancing. I even had to get out there and bust out a few moves myself. But it was a really, really good time. Our seniors had a great time. And it we provided some light refreshments, and the music was provided by DJ Jose Miranda. We also had our Valentine's Day tea party as well in February, and that was a great experience. We had 40 participants.

We had hat wearing, raffles, tea, and we even had sandwiches for participants as well. So it was it was a two hour two to three hours of fun music. We even had a harp player that provided elegant background music, and we also had our Hawaiian dancers come out give a good show. The So event created a warm, festive atmosphere that encouraged social connection, fun, and lasting memories. This past Saturday, April 11, we just hosted our health and wellness fair.

We had over 60 vendors. We had over 200 participants, and each participant was able to walk home with a free tote bag, resources. We had free massages, memory screenings, and vendors even brought out some prizes and opportunity drawings as well. So we had about 15 or 16 people walk away with with some opportunity drawing items. So it was a really, really fun experience.

Our entire gymnasium, it was it was it was filled with vendors, and it was a really, really good time. And last, going over our community center rentals and Hunt branch library rentals. Our months of February and March saw very good attendance. We had 39 rentals in the month of February for the Fullerton community center and 45 for the month of March for the Fullerton Community Center. For the Huntlet Branch Library, we had 11 in February and 15. Our revenue splits are at the bottom down there, but overall overall attendance was really, really, really, really good over the past two months.

Now moving over to the Hunt branch library, staff also hosted a spring break art camp. So it was art themed. It even include there was about 25 participants registered for that led by our coordinator Amy, who's our curator for the gallery there. It's a snapshot eighteen eighty seven, which is a gallery of Fullerton in at that time. And I believe, maybe mistaken, but it's about, like, real estate and how they were encouraging people to come to Fullerton and buy land.

So if you if you weren't aware, that that gallery is curated by Amy, and she has different showings throughout the year. And she also hosted a goat yoga. So there was about 10 to 12 participants during goat yoga. There was about two or three goats in attendance. And as you can see in this picture, they may or may not be doing yoga as well, but it was a it was a great time, and no one was harmed.

Goats are fine. And we still have our ongoing programs, My Little and Me Craft Times, Monday, Wednesdays, and Fridays. There is yoga on Wednesday evenings. Our tutoring, Wednesday afternoon and evenings. And then we do have our Roaming Glory coffee cart inside, which is really picking up.

The foot traffic at the has been increasing as you can tell by the rentals and just the activities there. We do have our try it Fridays on the eighth, May 8, our next one, and we will host nine weeks of camp at at the hunt, which will be a little bit it's not your traditional, like, recreational camp. It's more artistic. There's science and art projects, and we will bring entertainment. So they don't do excursions, but with the facilities there, they do have access to the park, and we bring on-site entertainment on a weekly basis.

So it's it's the hunt's a nice place to be at this, and especially during the days, nice weather, very quiet. And that is our department update for the month. Thank you, and we're happy to answer any questions.

Do the commissioners have any questions for staff? Only question I have when we're talking about revenue. First, video or it didn't happen. You said you were dancing on the dance floor, so videoer didn't happen. But question I have about revenue. You said things are looking pretty good. We, you know, got good money coming in to those venues. Like, how are we tracking or do we know at this point offhand how we're tracking versus what we're projecting our projections are for the year?

Yeah. So our tracking so we do have an internal financial application within the city. It's called ONCE. So our revenue based on what we're budgeted for, our adopted adopted budget, we're able to track that way. However, also our recreational software gives us up to date information if we're trying to retrieve revenue numbers so we have an idea of what our budget, our goal is, and where we stand, across the board of the twelve months.

So at what percentage? I believe at this time, we're about 75% of our revenue met. And what we're really proud of, the the Fullerton community center is completely booked every single weekend. Our goal was to increase the rentals and programming at the hunt, which we're slowly accomplishing, and that's one of the reasons why we hosted the expo. So the expo was your, wedding expo that we used to host at FCC, but the goal of the expo was to highlight the facility.

Now I think we accomplished that at the hunt. We highlighted the facility. All of our preferred vendors, as Chui mentioned, were in attendance. And then we did it did result it does result in in rental activity, whether meetings, board meetings, or just general rentals on Saturdays and Sundays. So we do have internal mechanisms to track our revenue projections.

Alright. If there's no questions, we will move on then to the

I will say it did work on me because I when I went to the I only went to the expo pretty much, but I am I do have a wedding planned at the hunt for in November. And a lot of those vendors that I walked away with, I'm like, oh, yeah. They're super easy now that I've tasted them. Like, awesome. I don't have to do any kind of work except now, like, pay for it. But but it's really cool. Thank you guys for the service.

Yeah. We we appreciate that. I do wanna highlight the hunt itself if you're there. It's very secluded. Aside from the train, you know, every twenty or twenty five minutes, if you're inside and you have music going, you can't really hear it. There's enough parking. It has amazing, like, just landscape, and you do not hear the dog park. Once you're inside, there's access to the kitchen, and we even have a ceremony space on the back on the back of the hunt to host, like, all in one weddings there. So it's a good facility, and I'm glad you're going to be hosting a wedding there.

And congrats. That's awesome. But thanks to all of you for the work you're doing. I think we say it every month. But the the award is probably probably you probably deserve an award every month. Right? We bring life to the city of Fullerton and I I love love the work that you recap every month here. So thank you for that. With that, we will now move to the public comments portion of the meeting. This is the time for members of the public to address the commission on any item of interest to the public that is within the subject matter jurisdiction of the Parks and Rec Commission other than those items listed on the agenda. If there's anyone here who would like to speak, please come forward and state your name and address for the record. And keep in mind, you have three minutes.

1 Gresham Park Drive in Fullerton. And I'm the, Isaac Walton League of America, Fullerton chapter fifteen treasurer. And, the next speaker will be Gil Kalbosa, also from the Isaac Walton League. We have been in partnership with the city on basically reactivating the, cabin rentals at, Hillcrest Park, and just wanted to talk with you because we're we're trying to, get some things resolved and just wanna keep the conversations moving. I know one of the issues is about insurance, and, we've just been meeting.

We know staff is incredibly busy, and just want to basically reopen, the cabin for, to be able to rent out. A lot of people are really interested in seeing it being there, and being able to take advantage of this great resource that we have at the city. Kelly, can I see my the rest of the time to you, Gil? Oh, jeez. Sorry.

I was driving. I was supposed to here earlier. So, anyway, yeah, we just wanted to to come and talk with you and, just basically let you know we're we're enjoying working with with staff, and just wanna keep the conversations moving, forward because I think we're we're really close on being able to, get the the agreements all signed off. One of the things that we do have is that we are the, charter representative for, scout troop, Scouting America troop two ninety two. We had an event, a pancake breakfast that we had open, and people always love when we're there because they get to see the inside.

It's just a great resource. Have another minute. Short and sweet. But, I might see my time back. So because I know Gil's, he's very efficient with his words as well. So thank you so much.

My name is Guillermo Caloboso. I live at 1556 West Olive Avenue here in Fullerton. I am the secretary for the Fullerton chapter of the Eiselwald League of America. And just like missus Osling said, we're just trying to expedite or

help the process if possible to to get the cabin open for public rentals. That's the basis of everything. Thank you.

Good evening, commissioners and staff. I just wanna start off by, sending my gratitude for all the awesome community events that are going on. Ever since the outdoor equity program had been brought to Fullerton, each update that I've seen, just the amazing exposure that young people are getting to, some of our beautiful outdoor resources and some of our local mountains. Really awesome. I really appreciate that.

Speaking of, community events, I was, glad to attend the, pancake, breakfast over at the Isaac Walton cabin and, was really glad to see the interior of the cabin. Obviously, anybody who's grown up in Fullerton is very familiar with that cabin in Hillcrest Park. And I really appreciate the ways that the Isaac Walton league and troop two ninety two are activating that cabin. And I wanna wanna bring up a issue that brought to this commission before, which is that of the deteriorating World War two memorial, which is just immediately north of the Isaac Walton, League Cabin. Now this is something that I've I've been bringing to the city for for years now.

Just recently, though, as I had, gone to council to report my acts of community service to help bring awareness to this particularly forgotten and abandoned memorial. This this monument is very significant. I've been trying to speak with staff, even previous to these past council meetings. I was told by Stephen Bice that he was going to meet with me. That never happened.

Even though I had expressed to him that this is one of the issues that I had urgent concerns regarding. And I just wanna impress upon this this commission that your discretion and and your input, you know, obviously, is mostly regarding programming, you know, capital improvement projects, park renovations, and whatnot. I want you guys to think. Sometimes there are details in our parks management that is maybe foregone. There in Hillcrest Park is dilapidated and, failing historic flagstone Flagstone guard guardrails, flagstone steps, stairs, that are also a liability for, tripping hazards.

There's there's broken pieces of flagstone that's just been, like, tossed down slopes, and it's just sitting there. So our historic park, Hillcrest, has had a lot of projects around the perimeter, the facade of the park, but the interior continues to be sorely neglected, and I'd like this commission to acknowledge that and speak about it. Thank you.

I have no one on Zoom.

Great. If there's no one else that'd like to make a public comment, I will now close public comments. And with that, we will move, to the approval of the consent calendar for the meeting of 02/09/2026. Are there any commissioners that wish to pull an item from the consent calendar? Is that the right date?

It is. Correct?

The February 9 date? Is that Yeah. In question? Yeah. Okay. Any

commissioners that wish to pull anything? Okay. If there are no pulled items is there a motion and a second to approve the balance of the consent calendar?

Motion to approve the remainder of the consent calendar.

And I'll second.

K. Commissioner Maldonado, commissioner Talavera oh, he's out. Sorry. Vice chair Freeman Yes. And chair McHendry.

Yes.

K. The motion has passed.

Alright.

Regular

business. We'll move now move to the regular business portion of the agenda.

Sorry, chair. Looking at the agenda, I believe we may have skipped through the commissioner comments

Sorry.

Or staff communication reports.

Yeah.

Right after public comment, if you if anybody on the commission has any comments.

Sorry. I'm just following the script.

Oh. I

wasn't there. But were there any comments for, commissioner comments on on the public comments?

Sure.

Yeah. I guess for the World War two memorial, I know that staff during council meeting said that they had a bid or they were under they were looking at bids. I'm I'm not too sure what the status of what the renovations for the World War two Memorial would be. Like, do do we do we know? Does staff know?

No. I don't have an update on the war memorial specifically, but I can share that our public works engineer, myself, and our and staff did attend, did have a meeting with the ad hoc committee for the Hillcrest Park ad hoc committee to discuss the lower picnic area. We did a walk through of the space and highlighted some of the more urgent needs. So we are internally working on on ways to address those, those asks.

Can I just ask real quick for just point of order? Is is this the agenda, obviously, I think it's been moved around a little bit. The comments from staff and commissioners is usually at the end of the agenda. Is that is am I reading this correctly that this is where we're now going to be?

So I don't have a previous agenda from the month, but I I think we will follow the current this agenda item, and I will work with staff to make sure it's consistent Okay. Moving forward.

I just wanna make sure because if if this is our time to make those comments, I just wanna make those comments.

Yeah. We can make those comments now, and I and I apologize for that if the script is not reflective of the agenda, but we'll make sure that it it's consistent.

Yeah. Okay. I do have a couple comments. First off, I I I was gonna bring up the award if that didn't get brought up earlier. So good job on that. That's so good accomplishment there. That award, there's it's all the cities in Orange County and all and, like, the South LA County who are eligible for that. And and I was lucky enough to attend that night and two there's two awards for that category, we were lucky enough to have one of them. So kudos to you guys for one submitting the application and two being, awarded that. And then second, I wanted to just congratulate, just so everyone's aware, Christian.

He on the same vein of CPRS, he is now the current district ten, president. He was just installed in that last Thursday, which, if you're in the field of recreation, it's kind of a big deal. So he's kind of a big deal now. But, but, no, it's it's a it's a good thing. He's got a good leadership skills, he's gonna be leading the District 10, which there's 15 districts throughout the state.

And he's the leader of of our president of District 10, which, like I said, covers all of Orange County, all the agencies, municipalities, and, like, South LA County. And it's the largest, active district in the state, so he's got his hands full. So it's busy. But it's it's it's a good networking opportunity for for him, for the city Fullerton to be able to get more resources, and and he'll make contacts that'll definitely benefit the city, which is why it's a good thing that that to have him in that in that role. And then I think that was that was it for my comments. I just wanna make those. Thank you.

The last

thing I would say is the the interior for the cabin. Is it under renovations right now or is it

No. I believe what was referenced was the insurance Oh. On behalf of the the organization. So how our process works, we actually just recently, our analyst came back from maternity leave. So she's forwarded the insurance documents over to our HR for review and approval. So that is at the stage we're at right now. Once that gets cleared by HR, then we, communicate to the organization that we're good to go, which is that's ultimately the last piece of the agreement, so they can operate within the cabin.

All right. With that, we will now move to regular business. And I would like to call item number seven, Independence Park Playground renovation concept concepts. Is there a staff report?

Yes. Thank you, chair. And, again, we'll we'll get the order correct. But we do have, we are very excited, to present our Independence Park Playground renovation concept. So we do have a presentation.

Before we kinda dive into the presentation, just wanna give a little background. We're moving forward on the Independence Park project. The gymnasium is actually in plan check. If not, it's already completed plan check for the renovation of in the inside of the gym, reopening of the restrooms. In addition to that, at this you know, we're working on the same timeline, hopefully, that we have a new universally accessible playground at Independence Park.

So, I'll get started with our presentation. And staff solicited conceptual proposals from four qualified playground manufacturers. Those are Coast Recreation, Dave Bing and Associates, Innovative Playgrounds Company, and Little Tikes Commercial. The con conceptual designs we asked to include 15,000 square feet of playground area, poured in place rubber surfacing, universally accessible inclusive playground equipment, and we really wanted to have a high value of play equipment, which I think all of the designs did did meet that criteria. Moving to the next slide, please.

Highlighting, so how the presentation is tailored, it will show you the four concept conceptual designs. At the conclusion, we can kinda dive into each one if you have additional questions. But the first playground pres designs from Dave Bing, and that cost was at $824,362 with 50¢. And I'd like to note that these designs were at we asked for them to either be on the procurement contract, which is either Sourcewell or CMAS. So they're all and that allows us to buy directly from the vendor.

And we do have a budget of $1,000,000 that we shared with them, which includes install everything, installation, playground equipment, and the port in place rubber surfacing. In addition to that, so 1 million's there. 1,000,000 would be for site work done by the city. So overall, the project for the playground would be $2,000,000. But just for the play equipment, $1,000,000 was our goal.

So we'll start with our Dave Bing playground. This is an overview of the 15,000 square feet. Here, you can just from that overview site, they do have a two to five year old station on the right hand side of that image, and then their large wow factor tower on the left side. Next slide, please. That's the two to five.

They're all at low level to be accessible for all kids of all abilities. Two slides, the the pair slide there, and stand alone equipment to the right, which is gives you that, like, play play value for depending on musical or numbers, colors, that is always interchangeable. Next slide, please. And this is their, kind of their wow factor tower with their slide and their manufacturer's play world. Next slide, please.

And in the middle, they do have the assisted the sorry, the kids, the infant swings, the inclusive swing right in the middle, and then regular swings on the right hand side there. So swings are very popular at our parks, so that was a key feature that we wanted to include in all of our in all of the designs. And this is your, sorry, go back. On your right hand side, that's the tower. Anybody with a wheelchair can I think there's another picture in the slide?

You can access it. And then there's inclusive within the tower activities that you can participate in. Next slide, please. This is just another view. So here, you can what was shared in the design is there's two different there's like a net way on the left hand side, which is that yellow feature or onto the right, those platforms to then lead you to a higher elevation where there's additional games and activities within.

Next slide, please. The next one is Innovative Playground. Innovative Playground Company, their playground cost did come in at a million, $1,000,000.91496 with 43¢. I'd like to note that with Innovative Playgrounds, they did offer a grant that we were awarded. It was approximately a $100,000 from their their, playground manufacturer is Burke.

So they had a kind of an all equities grant, that you're able to sign in sign up for. So we were awarded that, and that's what this is the final cost. So this one gives you an overview. With any of the playgrounds, colors are TBD. This is just their design, so I don't want you to feel fixated to the color scheme.

Couple of things to highlight, they do have a three sixty loop, which is their new, I guess, a new type of slide where you can slide, then you can shimmy over to the other one where you don't have to get off the slide to utilize that same space again. And like they highlighted, this is good for kids on wheelchair to stay within the same structure. They have the movement inclusive wheel to the left, the Innova Rocker as well. These are pretty popular items within their playground designs. The spinner, which is a standalone, some musical equipment as well that you can highlight.

And one thing that they did add is the the highlight of their piece that they really wanted to emphasize is the chair with the city seal that they've been incorporating, the Adderall rack chair that they've been incorporating into their playground. And I'll show a couple other slides, more in-depth details. And this one did include the shade structures in their cost, which I know is sometimes very important during the summer days. Next slide, please. And you can tell they have three bays of swings to the left.

This one does include at your lower, you really can't see the zipline, but there's a zipline there. I know this one is it can vary in length. I think this one depicted in the picture is about 85 feet, but that's always adjustable. But it is individual it is an individual zipline. Next slide, please.

That's their so on the lower left picture there, the something interesting about this company, Innovative Playground, they add a zero to two h, which is now encompassing all the ages. Right? So you got zero to two, two to five, and then five to 12, which are the normal age ranges. Mostly all playgrounds only have a zero to two or sorry, two to five, five to 12. So this is very popular amongst their parks in different at different sites.

But you can you can see just kind of the play value access to the standalone play structures similar to the kid here on the left. And that's that that play structure you're seeing in front and the main picture there, that's their five or two to five, which has a lot of different just it's a very high value piece. Alright? With the space that we're asking with our budget, it's kind of encompassing in one. So next slide, please.

Transitioning into the next concept, we have coast recreation. The coast recreation concept did come in the design for the playground did come in at $1,131,000. Next slide. Coast recreation does work with landscape structures, which all these parks we do have their playgrounds at our various parks. So most recently, landscape structures is the same playground we have at Emery Park.

So here you have a different design with the same, you know, idea of 15,000 square feet. It's a a couple of things that I do wanna highlight. The play when you're building a playground, there's a a fall zone, a safety fall zone. So you keep that's why some of these play structures are not on top of each other because there's a dedicated fall zone within each structure. So and there's also thicker the higher the structure, the thicker the pour the pour in place.

So those are just, like, playground items that we need to be cautious about and how much we can add to that space. Right? So on your left hand side is gonna be the two to five area, and then on your right hand side, you have four bays of swings, and then you have a side by side zip line. And then the all inclusive play structure on your at the furthest right, which is their their play booster. So next slide, please.

So it's just a different picture. You can see the zipline. I think for us, as staff, when we were talking about designs, zip line's just a cool concept and it's a it's a fun feature to have at a park. You can tell that they're they also have the kind of the younger age swings, but then they also have some adapted swings where you can join. And the spinner on the left hand side is a very popular play equipment.

It goes pretty fast. And then we'll I think the next picture highlights the big feature. So this one has about 35 play elements within the structure. As you can tell, there's a lot of ramps. There's a lot of just there's about four slides.

There's one there on the picture on the right hand side, and there's three on the backside, but it's just a very high value play piece. There's things for everybody of all abilities to do. And again, this design also does come with the shade structures. That's the picture on the so you can see the ramps, the two type of slides, and then every kind of every area has panels. And they're all also they include, like, sensory panels, but mostly, the biggest piece is accessibility to each play play structure.

And this is the two to five on the opposite end. It has the two slides and the swings on the backs on the back there of the picture on the furthest left, and some additional play panels closest to you. One of the asks that we made for the design is also to minimize the play panel structures because of vandalism, in that area. So less open space for people to do bad things. And then you can see the swing sets or sorry, yeah, the swing sets and then the the rockers on your right hand side.

Alright. This one did provide me kind of a layout, and the red circles around are the fall zones, the dedicated fall zones for each play structure. And then we had Little Tikes. Little Tikes actually, I correct myself. Little Tikes Commercial is a playground manufacturer that we don't have in the city, But if you've been to Fountain Valley and they're at the sports park, that's the playground that's that was installed there.

So their playground cost came in at 1,259,994 with 91¢. For their design, this is kind of the layout. There's three sections in their playground. Also, something to note is that they did have a zero to two play area. So next slide, please.

So I do wanna make note that the fixtures within this design are not included in the quote. It just gives you an idea. So we have the picnic shelter and the tables are not included. Right? But they do they did do a a good job of adding of mixing the port and play with concrete because port and is relatively expensive, so you try to minimize that.

This first picture has the three slides there and has the caterpillar. There they have a relationship with the caterpillar book, so they include that in their play in their play structures, which broadens the creative and imaginative play for the kids. Next slide, please. So this is kind of a side view. They do have three bays for the playground or sorry, for the swing sets on the left hand side.

Again, you can see the trend of when you're having inclusive playgrounds, the swing sets have the similar play pieces. Next slide, please. They also have the zip line in this in this video or sorry, in this image here on the left hand side, and this is the back end, but it does give us a good idea of like, if we wanted to add a picnic shelter in a future phase, like, how we can incorporate that. So I do appreciate that from this from this visual. Next slide, please.

This is, I believe, their their, yeah, their all in one place structure here. You can see there's a lot similar to, you can say, the landscape structures that's kind of all in one encompassing. You have the different ways to get to the top of the structure. In addition, you have some bridges, multiple slides, different play pieces, all appealing to the different, the broader users. This is an image from the other, from a different angle.

Again, you see the ramp, the wheelchair ramp that leads you into the different play areas. The close-up on the the little the kits. And everything is if you if you had see that everything is very themed, which is is also pretty neat and highlights. This is a musical garden space. So all the stand alone, like the sound the sunflower and the those items are all musical pieces.

That concludes the presentation. I'm happy to answer any questions, but it is for commission to review and recommend a conceptual design along with the cost. Thank you.

Thank you. Do the commissioners have any questions for staff?

When we took a community survey, what's like, majority of what is included in the surveys is in these, let's say, hypotheticals, essentially. Yeah.

So the community survey we did for Independence Park with our dream was as the park as a whole, specifically. Mhmm. But they did one of the highlights was to include a playground. And for us, we really wanted to create a space, a universally accessible space. So that's why this would be the first in the city. And ultimately, the goal is to make Independence Park a destination. And I think with the trail opening, we have some good momentum. And then the gym reopening, this playground will be the heart of that community.

Understood. Thank you.

Question. What direction did you I know you said some of them did you give the direction to all of all the proposals to, like, limit panels and limit, like, hiding spaces and stuff to, know, just don't have unwanted behavior happening?

Yeah. That was so we did have initial conversations for our vision with all the all the playground companies, and that was part of it in addition to the 15,000 square fee, high play value, and then turnkey $1,000,000.

Okay. The Dave Bang concept with that, like, I mean, does that for the hidden spaces, if you will, for the like, that one seems like it's all hidden for the most part. Is that in your opinion, does that meet that that criteria?

Or The tower does not. Yeah. No. Okay. Because it's it a lot of our designs with, like, there's a how we're approaching our designs is also for PD and staff to be able to, visually see through from the playground. Right? Mhmm. But one of the things that we did ask is to make to for there to be a wow factor, right, included. So making it a wow factor, but don't give hiding spaces. Right? So Right. That was part of our criteria.

Okay. And one other question for any of the designs. I I know I know working with playground companies, you you can make changes and stuff like that. Mean, that that would be a complete redo of that that playground. But but, like, for innovative, you know, the next the next cheapest one that's closest to the budget that I it kinda seems like it's meeting and checking all the boxes, but still over the million dollar budget. Like, are there items that you guys would be willing to remove from it to or is there time to even do that at this point to remove items to get it under that million dollar budget? Do you have a contingency to have it go to one point? Was it 1.9 for them?

Yeah. One yeah. Pretty much 1.1 if you round up.

One. Sorry.

Yeah. So we do have so the flexibility falls into the 2,000,000 all encompassing budget does include the site work. So depending on additional needs for the for the space, That's why we were budgeting for about $1,000,000 for just site work and per and preparation because there's a lot of grading that needs to go into this potential for a fire lane through in between where the playground will be built to the to the skate park and how much concrete needs to be poured, etcetera. So I I did speak with our engineers this morning in in preparation and asked that question, like, how much does that look? Like, an estimate.

And they said probably about the $7.50 to $800,000, but they do want some room, some wiggle room. Right? So Some contingency

on there.

Some contingency there as well. So we we already did the survey. Once we kinda have a design, we can plop it in and see what the needs are. But if we if yes. We can reduce the scope of the design, the playground, and then reducing the scope to meet our our $1,000,000 mark, absolutely. But if we do keep that price at that scope, then we just have to reduce in other areas within the entire project.

But it seems like that's almost doable considering their rough estimation of the of the landscape work to be able to get to that one point almost 1.1. Correct.

Yeah. And we and we wanna do a good job, but it it might change the difference from the the width of the sidewalk where we're meeting a four, you know, four feet versus six feet, things like that of how much concrete we're pouring. But there will be sidewalks and because you also need to take into consideration we're doing the play or the the parking lot needs to needs to be ADA accessible into the playground Mhmm. Into the building. So there's a lot of more work that needs to be done.

Ideally, like I shared at the beginning, 2,000,000 is not sufficient for a picnic shelter, but hopefully in a future phase because that would be a reservable space for us, which so we're really trying to keep it at that 2,000,000 mark all in all, but 1,000,000 closest to 1,000,000 for the playground itself.

Okay. Thank you. Those are all the questions I had.

Similar line of questioning, but in the first proposed design, the rough estimate was 800 k and certainly not it had that wow factor tower if if I remember correctly. Right? But if if we were to move forward with one of these designs with the stipulation that we'd like something to change, how much of a wrinkle is that? Or is that even feasible? I mean, at this point, it sound for me, I question, like, the feasibility of going to something over the $1,000,000 budget.

And then I look at one that's 800 k and say that seems fiscally responsible, but maybe some things need to change. So and and we'll certainly get to to the comments and conversation a little bit later. But how feasible is it to ask for, you know, an amendment to their design?

It it is it is feasible. I in working with the playground companies, there there's elements within the design that are line item elements that we can remove to in court to try to meet our budget or add to try to meet our budget. But our goal was to like, the high play value. That was that was a big thing for us of if we have less, how much value how much play value does that incorporate into the design? And in addition to that, making it all, you know, universally accessible, all inclusive, and have those elements.

So there's there's ways we can still meet that and reducing some. So, like, the musical elements may not be a need. Right? That's more of a want, but it's not a need. So that might be a couple thousand dollars that we can remove off the final cost, things like that. Gotcha.

And then as far as, like, a picnic structure, do you have a rough estimate on what that would cost?

So so you'd you'd have to pour the concrete under the space. And the picnic, If we wanted to do a picnic structure here, you're looking at one for about 75 to a 100 people. Honestly, you're looking roughly about a $100,000 probably, probably a little bit more by the time we actually purchase it. So, yeah, it's it's relatively pricey. And the amenities with it, the barbecue grills, if we wanted to have some lighting on it, and the the actual structure itself, if we wanted more of the fabric shade structures or, like, a one piece.

There's companies that do a one piece all in, but tables, chairs. We are going to add tables and like, picnic tables throughout the park design, but and it's not gonna be centralized in one location under a picnic shelter. It's similar to what we already have at our parks.

Alright. And then typically, when we have done playgrounds in the past and we've aligned on what that budget will be and what the contract will be, do we typically come on contract, or do we have to go in with a contingency?

We always have a contingency for any of the projects, but we have met our our contract. So once we go the Sourcewell procurement is a guaranteed cost. Right? That's already their final cost. So that's why we went this route where the fluctuating cost would come with the construction and change orders, but not so much on the playground itself. But our team has done a really good job of the trail. We came under contract or sorry, under budget, also Union Pacific Park. So we've been able to stay under budget or at budget with our parks but do have a contingency just in case.

Okay.

And last question I have is the fourth one, the Little Tikes rendering, is very different from the others in that the others were more rectangular in design, and this seems to sprawl across different areas of the park. Is that an option for these renderings, or did they just say creatively we'll create 15,000 square feet of playground?

Yeah. They I think they went creative and said, this is 15,000 square feet. When we did a so we did a site visit with all the manufacturers, and now and our vision was there's two large trees. If you're facing north from the parking the parking lot, there are there's, like, one very large tree, and then there's the rocks, the four four or five rocks there. So we said fit it in between this.

Right? Like and so 15,000 square feet from here to the next walkway, but fit it in between this so we can also try to save kind of the ancillary pieces and some of the landscape around the area. And that's where you see the more narrow design. And also, it helps with visually seeing through the playground versus kind of the creative approach of different designs, different heights, different locations. So that's kind of what the direction was, but some of these manufacturers are are designers are creative, and and they're artistic in that you can see that here.

Can't stop a creative. Any other questions, commissioners?

Yeah. Did they did you said you guys did the site survey already. Correct? Did they did they have that when they did the proposals? Like, would that work within their So for the site? The

No. They did not have that. But our engineer team, our public works team completed that recently. The Okay. Just to get the ball rolling

Yeah.

As we kinda move towards construction. Okay. So now we now we have that. Now the next step is the playground company will provide us with their CAD files. We'll pop it in, and then that's where we start figuring out the grading as we go into a bid for the contractor for the work.

Oh, so the the instead of because I thought the install and all that stuff was included within the source well.

The install is. It's all turnkey, but the site work. And we're create we're building we're building the

pit. Outside of the playground.

Yeah. We're build city one, city staff is building the contractor's building the pit. The playground manufacturer's bringing their playground and just plopping it in the pit.

Okay. And then who's doing the foreign play?

The playground manufacturer. Okay.

Yeah. That's it. Are we able to get, like, Kaboom into involved where we can have, you know, cut costs in that way?

How Kaboom works is it identifies neighborhood parks. Right? And there's a kind of a two worlds meet. It's a funder and then a playground need. But I don't in my experience, I don't they've replaced playgrounds.

I don't know if they've built new playgrounds to this extent, and that process is rather lengthy. Just to give you an example, I know we did, Union Pacific Park under Kaboom, but we're still waiting, hopefully, for a funder to do Valencia Park. Okay. So Valencia Park was submitted, I believe, if not the same time or before Union Pacific Park, but there's no funder yet that would support that project within kind of their their donations towards Kaboom. So it's like a three piece puzzle.

Yeah. But we do have communications with Kaboom for Valencia Park. So that would that's hopefully our next Kaboom project, if not sooner, through a park dwelling project.

Okay. Thank you.

Yeah.

Alright. With that, I would like to now invite those members of the public who wish to address the commission on this item to come forward.

Hello. Thank you, commissioners, and thank you staff for the report. It's a very special park to me. I grew up going to Independence Park and Adelina Park. They were my most local parks to my house growing up.

And, you know, I'm I'm I'm very happy to see the initiative for investment into this park. Obviously, it's a very significant park for the community, Independence Park, and especially with the extra activation from the UP Trail, so I'm very glad to see a project that will go toward investing in this park. Wanna say some of the the values of this space, even as a child that I recognized was obviously, it's a relatively large park, large open space. And the somewhat natural topography of kind of a small little rolling undulating, you know, topography is, something that was interesting as a child. It felt a little bit more natural than just, you know, most completely pancake flat turf parts.

I'd be interested to see to what degree some of that topography may be preserved during grading, in places surrounding the built out, playground. I'd also like to say, for this being a, particularly inclusive park, I'm bit disappointed to see that the wow factor of the first, applicant is the least accessible feature of the entire design, obviously. And so, you know, the the, given the the budget seems attractive, but also, you know, as a child, going to Independence Park in the the very small playground that was there growing up, I had amazing times there. You know? I don't I don't really think kids are, you know, needing, a four story tall, you know, tower.

Children especially, actually, I think the elements that need to be built upon are those that incorporate elements of nature play. This has been shown studies show the physical, mental, and and and emotional benefits of having exposure to natural elements, whether that be natural themes of play structures like was shown in the Little Tykes proposal, which I I really appreciated, gives children the creative, appreciation for those elements. The first proposal, that big Cold tower is exactly that. I think it kinda looks like a McDonald's playground. You know?

I think that our children, you know, and our community deserve well designed play spaces that incorporate natural themes. Thank you.

Is there anyone else in the audience that would like to speak on this item? Anyone on

the phone?

I do have one in Zoom. Caller, please go ahead.

Okay. Thank you. I really appreciated seeing all the different play structures, and it was really interesting to see. And I think it's nice the ones that incorporated the really young children. A lot of times families have different age ranges of children, and this way they can kind of all enjoy something there.

And I appreciate all the accessible structures and and things that other children will be able to do. And I was curious to wonder if after the selection is made when it's kind of, you know, put into play and placed where it's going to be in the park. So I was thinking of the children. I'm I'm a retired teacher, and the water fountains were always really, really far from our playground. So is that something that would be placed in kind of geographically near where the play structures are?

Because I'm thinking as a parent to try to keep their eye on the children and so the kids don't have to go really far to get a drink of water and possibly having, you know, ADA accessible fountains for the children, you know, different sizes and different heights of things. I think that's something important. I'm sure that's not in the plans for here, but later on after something's chosen and the rest of the park is made, having something nearby would be probably a great way to, you know, place those sort of things. I also think that park would be a really nice even though they have the pool, it'd be really nice to have maybe some kind of a spray section or some kind of a water feature for the kids in that neighborhood too. So thank you.

It was interesting to watch.

Thank you. I have no one else.

Seeing as there's no other comments, we're bringing it back to commission for discussion. Commissioners, do you have any comments?

Sure.

I have a preference

of the innovative one, and the reason why is kind of what people have echoed before with the the first one being the least accessible accessible to, like, a person in a wheelchair or otherwise. But two, there are a lot of teenagers at that park, seeing that there's a skate park not too far there. And with such a,

I don't

know, not a clear eyeline, especially from maybe the parking lot, it's gonna be hard to monitor. Let's say if a cop were to stroll past there to make sure they weren't doing anything too crazy. On top of that, with the shade structures included in the cost, I feel like it has a high play value, and it is it is the one of two options that have a zero to two play area with little tykes being the other one, but really costly. And I feel like wouldn't be the best kind of investment, especially if we're gonna have to remove things to make it more cost effective. So, yeah, I would make the motion for recommending the innovative innovative plate set, but I would like to hear what everyone else says.

Yeah. Similar thoughts that kind of belong with everyone else in in the room and online with the first Dave Bing one being kind of the least accessible, If that's really the the goal of of this park to be the first, you know, inclusive playground, that one feels the least inclusive. Unfortunately, it's the the cheapest one. It was it'd make it a little easier to make that decision. But you know and and I think it's, it's probably the the worst, like I said, for, unwanted behavior.

You know? You you're not gonna wanna have it's so blocked off. It basically can, you can camp out in there, if you wanted to, and and nobody would really see it. I I like that the what he said about the with having the the zero to 12 playgrounds, all three, I think that's that's really important, especially if you're gonna be inclusive. That's that's part of it.

And as a father of three, we had them in all the all three of those ages at one point. So it's it would be nice, to have. And, you know, the the one thing is, as I would just say, to to look at this design, especially if you're looking if we really wanna get down to the the the million dollars, I know with Sourcewell, those items are all line itemed, and we can go through them, you and can kinda pick up pick them out. The one look. Just looking at this from from that same point of view from the the, kinda unwanted behavior of the shelter, space would be that needle spinner.

That's, like, almost an enclosed little spinner thing that that some if someone wanted to to spend the night in, they could. And if that's a cost saving thing, that's an easy one to take away. It's not a super accessible item, so you're not taking something away from someone who's accessible. Accessible. And that might bring you down I don't know how much it is, but it might bring it down, like, 40,000 or something like that, which gets you a little bit closer. That may not and maybe that'll add a water fountain closer to the playground. I don't know. And, yeah, it's I I think it's it's the biggest blend of all of all four of them, I think, as far as that you get a little bit of wow factor with that that tower and that that three sixty slide. And and then I like the the three sixty loop. That's that's a new thing I haven't seen.

And I think that it's really good for a child who, you know, can use their their upper body, but maybe not their their lower body. They can scoot on that and get to the the climbing structures and not have to get down onto the ground. So I think that's a really neat item. And then let's see if I had anything else in my notes. Just point of clarification. The $100,000 grant that the price that we have that that includes that already reduced. Right?

That's correct. And Okay. Correction. It and I just looked at the numbers. It's one it was $140,000. So but that is the final price of included with the grant.

Okay. Alright. That's that's all I have for me, but I would I'm in agreeance.

And that final price is 1.1

No. It is 1,091,496 with 43¢.

So 1.1. Ultimately, I I have a few thoughts. First, as a father of three, I too have had children of variety of ages playing on playgrounds and I think there's something to open space also right. So I think sometimes you know kids will see a playground and think it's amazing there's so many things to do and it brings so many kids and I'll tell you my nine year old was at the Bramall over the weekend running on their turf area with there's not very much to do but she had a blast So I I think there's sometimes a tendency to wanna overdo some of this stuff. And, you know, so that's just just my thought there.

But I also as a as a citizen here in Fullerton, I'm I feel like it's our our responsibility to do things fiscally respond in a fiscally responsive responsible way. And, you know, I that that for me kinda eliminates three and four from from competition here just on the cost of the project and while I think two is closer I think we need to think about some concessions to get us to that $1,000,000 mark because what I worry about is then going to construction and having something happen where, you know, they can't hold true to the contingency and I think the closer we can get to the million dollar mark the better. And so whether that means, removing or reducing a little bit of the proposed design I think that's the responsible thing to do financially for the city. And certainly we won't have less of a great park by doing it. And and ultimately, you know, I think when the kids see it and and and play on it, even after it's revised, it it's still a great place to play.

So I I'm just I'm adamant, though, in in my mind that we need to do what we can to stay on budget. Just

just looking at the design for that, if if that's the direction we wanna go to try to get it down to a million. You know, there's there are a few little things in there that that can be shortened. You know, you it could potentially even you know, if you if you removed one swing, brought the made the the the zip line a little bit shorter. Now you're now you're tightening that safety zone a little bit, and you're cutting out a little bit of that square footage of porn play. You're really not you're not losing any elements except one swing, and then you're you're cutting down on the footprint of the whole playground.

That's another, likely $50,000 with the pour and play and concrete and all that stuff. It is to shorten the footprint. You lose one thing. But having those kind of, I think, concessions are exactly what that little tiny ones like that, because it's only $90,000 that we need to that you need to get it down to. Right?

And, you know, and I think I would say I'd be willing to to motion to to to recommend that one with the guidance of just taking a little look at it and seeing where you can tighten it up. And I know that there's line items in there and try to not have any any accessible items removed and just kinda get creative in that sense of, like, if you move this a little bit, shorten that down, safety zones come down, you get more space.

I would second that.

In previous playgrounds where we've had financial, you know, constraints, we've talked about the play surface and what that is. Is it safe to just looking at it, this looks like all one con one one surface. Correct? So what is that what I'm looking at? Just different colors?

Correct. Yeah. So right down the middle and talking specifically about the innovative playground, right down the middle of the design, that is a walkway, a concrete walkway. But to the to the left and to the right, that is pour and play. So based on the information in front of me, we're looking at the pour and plays, honestly, the most expensive piece. Different different vendors quoted at different costs, but it's about 20 to $25 a square feet, which is

I wonder if there's a way to maybe hybridize this. Right? Where we we did at Emory, we did all as as memory serves me, we did all wood chips there. But, like, if we could hybridize this where we do, you know, some portion of it, maybe wood chips, yeah, to try to reduce costs. And then potentially even that that walkway through the middle, that's pretty that's probably a $15,000 walkway, I would assume. Right? Probably cheaper than

the one. I would share that, concrete is cheaper and important play. So we we can work with the company to kinda redesign the spaces in addition to highlight specific play structures that we can probably remove from the design without taking its play value. But, yeah, port and play for this for this one specifically and and most of them are you're looking at about between 300 and $325,000 just for the port and play for the designs, which is the bulk of the cost.

And then maintenance of that too is expensive. Right?

Yeah. So there is, I think every three years, you have to roll it. There are costs that we will be, incorporating into our budgets for future years under the park dwelling of the ongoing and then the maintenance. But our parks our maintenance team, is taking a kind of a bigger, sorry, a larger, initiative to maintain in our playgrounds on a more consistent basis. And we have the staffing, on our facilities team.

They're doing inspections. They went and, took a, playground inspector test as well, just to have the knowledge in house and be able to incorporate these. But we do have some good relationships with different vendors that we would, you know, reach out to and get some additional quotes. But it it is different than sand, and it is different than wood fiber chips. In order for the warranty to for us to implement the warranty that it's given for us, we do have to roll it, I believe, every three years consistently.

That's and and basically just like a clear coat kind of thing. But I would I do have a little different of opinion when it comes to the hybrid approach. I think it's especially if you're talking about an all inclusive, all accessible playground, I think this particular project needs to be all pour and play. So it's really easy wheelchair accessible. Technically, wood chips are by legal definitions, but it's really not that wheelchair friendly.

And I would just recommend my my opinion is to keep it all poor and play, reduce things just to get to that that million dollar mark. But in I would like to just say it on to adding to that motion is is if you're just reducing little things like we just talked about, nothing major, to just move forward without bringing it back to us to to make those changes and take to counsel. Yeah.

Okay. And, yeah, and the other point of for cost, the pour and play can either be color black, and then that's the mixture. So we can reduce some of the color with the more expensive and still keep the pour and play to more solid colors versus a mixed color, if that makes sense. That goes along with the design. So, yeah, we're happy to explore that, get the cost down, try to meet the 1,000,000 mark, and move forward from there.

I'd I'd just say with the color, like, since you brought it up, is that, like, the having in my experience, having the colors with kind of a two tone, like, mix in black and brown or whatever it is, it really helps hide stains, because I've done a couple projects with that and and then lighter colors and darker colors and the ones that are slightly darker with, like, the little black kind of almost like granite look to it keeps the stains. They're still it's still stained, but it's you can just see it way less. So, I mean, if you need to cut it, you can cut it, but it makes it look better for longer. Yeah. Motion.

Alright. If there's no more comments, then, commissioner Freeman, will you restate your motion?

Yeah. A motion to, approve innovative playgrounds, but with a caveat of looking at it to to see if there's items you can cut since like, the spinner and, you know, reducing maybe one one swing and the length of the of the the what is that called?

The zipline.

Zipline. Thank you. Just to simply reduce the footprint a bit, which then will save you a cost, and you're really not losing much play value. And with that, you make those you can make those changes without having to come back to us. And once you do it, do your final design and take it to council so it doesn't delay your project. That's a long motion.

I would second.

Alright. Commissioner Maldonado?

Yes.

Vice Chair Freeman?

Yes.

And Chair McKendree?

Yes.

The motion has passed.

Alright, with that I would like to now call item number eight, the Parks and Recreation Budget Overview.

Yes. Good evening, chair and commission. Our next item is just a Parks and Recreation Department Budget Overview. This is a overview. This is in the presentation of our budget specifically that's coming next month as we are kinda deep into our our budget cycle. One thing I that I do wanna note is that staff and we'll be highlighting their divisions specifically, and sharing kind of our baseline budgets and what those dollars are allocated towards. This is different. I know we just passed Independence Park. That was park dwelling. This is specific to general fund and bread dam funds.

So with that, we'll get started. Again, this is our department budget structure, Going to highlight some of the core service areas and program budgets, the unfunded capital and operational needs, and we did under we did have a general fund reduction exercise as a department to try to reduce our spending to assist kind of meeting our budget goals. What we do. So we do oversee 53 parks, 30 plus miles of trails. We have our Fullerton Community Center and additional major facilities.

We have the youth, adult, and senior programs, and we do host citywide events as well as community engagement events. Our budget overview. Our proposed budget for fiscal year twenty six twenty seven is approximately $12,400,000 in operating budget with 7,500,000 from the general fund. The majority of our costs are fixed. Our breakdown is approximately 67% of it is maintenance and operations with 33% personnel.

We do have limited discretionary funding. Most funding does support our baseline operations. We do we do not have any new programs as we are limited, in what new programs we do engage in. And we do have an increasing demand with aging infrastructure, which is the combination for a lot more capital improvement projects. And then we're gonna go through section, and each supervisor will share their sections.

Alright. Commissioners, I'll be touching base on three budgets that I currently oversee. The first one is our parks and trail budget, 15529 is used for all of our 53 parks and 30 miles of trail. The table shows our actuals for 2425, what we're currently budgeted, and the proposed budget. In this current, table, I do wanna highlight our custodial service.

Our custodial service, operation is seven days a week, three hundred sixty five, days, in the year. We either service in the morning or, or at night. Next slide. Just a breakdown of our, you know, our expenditures. Our professional contractual expenses are for the maintenance and cleaning of Laguna Lake once a week.

The service is crucial, to maintaining the lake's longevity. Our supplies expenses are used for supplies needed for staff to use, cleaning products, tools, equipment, or PPE. Next slide, please. In this slide, I'll be highlighting, some of the, requests that we have received. These, staff have received numerous of requests for improvement.

This list includes requests from park users and staff input. With our current budget only dedicated to Aquabile, we are not able to fund any of the projects or repairs listed, which is the perimeter fencing at Laguna Lake, our splash pad features and equipment replacement, place playground replacement, adopting new trail maps, new sign replacements, benches, picnic tables, restroom repairs, kiosk replacement, and lines, lines field set repairs. Next, I have we have our community youth, sports account, which is the 15526. This is used for any sports fields or parks used for sports. The table shows our actuals for 2425.

Oh, sorry.

The table shows are the actuals for 2425, the current budget, and the proposed budget. This fund is only used for sports fields and parks outside of the Bray Dam. Next slide. Just to highlight, our professional contractual expenses are used for any turf replacement needed, Musco light services, and in the current fiscal year, we are able to do any improvements need needed, within our park system. With the new turf turf replacement as well, we are able to use those funds for any other items, within our parks.

Our rentals expenses are used for crane services for the field goal posts and removal at Lions Field, and also if, if we need any portable restroom services if one of our restrooms go down for a long, period of time. Our supplies expenses are used for any field equipment, cleaning products, tools, equipment, and PPE. Next slide. Next, we have our community youth leagues support account, 42526. This fund is used for the Fullerton Sports Complex, which is in the Brea Dam fund.

This table shows the actuals for 2425, the current budget, and the proposed budget. And as I mentioned, this fund is only available for the use of, the Fullerton Sports Complex. Our professional contractual expenses are used for any are used for Musco lighting. Sorry.

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Sorry. Our professional contractual expenses cover paint machines, Musco lighting, pitching machine service, and any need needed field improvements. Supply expenses are used for any field equipment, cleaning products, tools, equipment, and PPE. Next slide. Staff have received, numerous of improvements, as listed in, below, which are currently not funded.

With seven partner leagues with all different needs, the current funds that we have are very minimal and is hard for us to meet their needs. I'll also like to note that, the scoreboard for Nicholas, is something that we are looking at per council and commission direction. Some of the requests include, laser leveling, baseball and softball fields. We currently have 11 fields. More dirt or conditioner on our baseball softball fields, wind screens, on dugouts at the Fullerton Sports Complex, storage container, snack bar improvements, scoreboards, home run fences improvements, banning cages improvements, reseating, and retrofitting, field lights to LED.

We also receive, numerous, additional duty requests, which we have either limited or no funds available, which include nail dragging fields, 11 fields, edging infields, painting foul foul lines, painting soccer or football fields, chalking fields, and more enforcement. Our breakdown of our our staffing, is is as follows. Monday through Friday, 05:30AM to 10AM, 8AM to 4PM, 4PM and 4PM to 10:30. On Saturdays and Sunday, we also have 05:30AM to 10AM, 10AM to 4PM, and 4PM to 10:30 10:30PM. Sorry.

I wanna highlight the the second bullet point from the Monday through Friday, the 8AM to 4PM. That's that position was recently, approved and hired. It is our parks and trail specialist, and his duties are the enforcement of Lions Field and the maintenance of of Lions Field as well.

Next slide.

To to maintain current budgets, field fees for groups one, two, and three and four are increasing by $1 for the use, and group five will increase, by $5. We're also changing the language of the classifications to these field rental users.

Alrighty. I will be going over our Fullerton Community Center budget for $1.15 $5.01 9. And this one in particular, I would like us to really highlight our professional contractual supplies and small equipment furniture. They're right there in the middle along with our custodial as well. So for the Fullerton Community Center, it's a highly active space.

Looking at our professional contractual, it goes through our actuals from last year, what we budgeted this year, and then our next year's proposed budget. As you can tell, Slate Service Group, which is our e EES security, takes up about 55,000 of our $69,550 budget, which is a good chunk. Also, when we hire a new staff, our DOJ fingerprinting for employment can range anywhere between 50 to 130 per hire depending on program needs, depending on if we need to hire more staff, that that number could vary. Same thing with our fast lifeguards. When we have pool rentals, we rent out lifeguards.

So depending on the pool size or the the event size itself, it can range anywhere from a 180 to $840. And then lastly, our FCC events, when we have our wedding shows, family Fridays, things of that things of that sorts, we're budgeted about $5,000. Moving on to our supplies. Our office cleaning and program supplies, so same deal budgeted last year well, we're budgeted this year and our proposed budget for next year. Last year, we spent $9,532 with 63¢.

About it's a little bit more for our office and cleaning program supplies, where we spent 5,387, and then our supplies for our private and community center events, which could vary depending on what what we need, whether it's gaffing tape, equipment, any of that kind of sort, that number can vary as well. So if, you know, our our a lot of our aging infrastructure starts to diff deteriorate in terms of equipment, we would spend it from here. Same thing, you know, this year, we're trying to aim it at the 6,000 range for both of them, but, obviously, both of them can vary. Our small equipment and furniture. So last year, we spent 33,317 with 85¢.

We are we actually are budgeted $6,000. So this year, we're budgeted 6,000. Next year, we're budgeted 6,000. If you go through the other two professional contractual and the supplies, we spent less money in there last year to make up for the the money that we spent in the in the small equipment and furniture. So a lot of these include maintenance equipment.

Last year, we didn't spend any money on maintenance equipment along with staff amenities. This year, we're kinda aiming towards there as well as trying to spend less money, obviously, in our chairs and tables department. But this, again, it's it's based on need as well. So, you know, if some of our chairs are breaking or some of the equipment like the dollies or the pushcarts, things like that, if they'll start kinda going down, it's all it's all based on the need. So some capital improvement unfunded request that we get from our patrons, staff, things like that is upgrading our table and chair upgrading tables and expanding our chair selections for rentals and programs.

Right now, we currently have three options for our renters. We have the basic it's called the black the classroom chair, which is a basic black chair, white white folding chairs that a lot of our our a lot of our users use that one for, like, weddings and private events and that sorts. And then we also have our Como chairs, are really nice blue chairs. But we have received a lot of requests to expand those chair options based off, you know, if it's a wedding and they have a, you know, an orange colored wedding or a brown wedding, something something along those lines, they do we do get those requests. A big one is installation of an AV system at the branch library.

I understand this isn't the branch library account, but our rentals account does, intersect with this branch library. And we don't have an AV system, so that's a really really big need especially when we have our weddings and we have private meetings and things like that. This is something that's highly asked. Additional storage, audio enhancements in our classrooms, and then a facility wide intercom just in case there's any emergencies, updates, letting people know of closures, things of that sorts. These are pretty much the the big five in which we get requested for.

And then moving on to our Fullerton Community Center fitness, which is fifteen five three six. So this basically goes to our gymnasium, our fitness room, and the restrooms near the gymnasium as well. So with this one, we could you could highlight or we should highlight our professional contractual supplies and our special supplies as well, but our wages here are are noted as well from last year's actuals to this year's budgets to next year's proposed budget. So for this one, most of it, looking at last year's totals for our professional contractual, 5,100 189 with 61 with 61¢. It was all spent to Premier Fitness.

Premier Fitness does quarterly inspections of all of our fitness equipment, which ranges to 600 well, which is $675 for the entire year. But as you could see in in last year, we spent $5,000 in total in Premier, and that's based if something goes wrong with the treadmill, something goes wrong with one of the fitness equipment, anything like that, it would come out of that. We also haven't done floor replace or floor resurfacing in about five years, and our community center gymnasium was really, really in need for that. So we decided to pull the trigger on that this year. That costed us 6,300 and $300.

Obviously, left us with about 1,700. So with the inspections that we get with Premier Fitness Code, that will leave us about $1,100 just in you know, if any repairs are needed, that'll leave us really, really limited. Same thing for next year. We really wanna implement a consistent floor floor resurfacing, and that'll really hinder us next year as well. Moving on to our supplies.

As I mentioned, it goes for our gymnasium, our gym office, our fitness room, and our restrooms. This supplies budget here, it's we're allocated $5,000, which is very limiting for, you know, that space as a whole. We buy, you know, our balls, nets, sanitary supplies, shower curtains, just things that we may need for for the fitness equipment or for fitness account. So last year, we spent $3,631.70. This year, we're budgeted 5,000, and next year, we're actually decreasing that to 4,500. The last one is our special supplies, which we buy our concessions. This one's really based on need depending on how we're selling. This year, we're selling really, really good. So this number may be a little bit higher in terms of the expenditures. Last year, we went over by $300.

This year, I don't have the exact number, but we are doing really, really good in that department. So this number may go higher, but, again, it's all based on needs. And then some unfunded capital improvement requests, program requests for the community center. A lot of our patrons wanna see an increase in variety of fitness equipment. We do have a good amount, but they are asking for for a few more things.

We wanna introduce we are looking to introduce adult sports leagues and gymnasium program opportunities. That would be a really nice addition to our to our community center. Implement biannual maintenance and resurfacing of courts. So I know we just did one over the past five years, but if we really want a good court, it's gonna take, you know, twice twice a year to to to resurface that court, which will come out to about $12,600, and that's not even including our our maintenance for of the fitness room. And then upgrading existing fitness equipment.

So some of it is it's older. It's older fitness equipment. And, you know, a lot of it as we're running into as it gets older, we're obviously running into a lot more issues. Then the not many not too many proposed changes for our for our fee schedule, but we are looking to increase our drop in rate from 5 to $7 for pickleball as well as our drop in rate for for 5 to to from 5 from 3 to $5 and then from 4 to $7. This is based off residency and non residency.

And then just to give you a quick staff breakdown, so we do have as as I said, the Fullerton Community Center is a really high lot highly utilized space, and we need the staff to reflect that as well to ensure that, you know, we we are able to provide services to our best to our best capabilities. So from 07:30AM to 02:30PM, we have three staff. One of them is a is a front desk staff. One is what we call a program staff, which is kinda going around, breaking down setups, setting up different classrooms, boardrooms, things like that. And then one is a gymnasium staff.

We also have another staff from 07:30 to 02:30, which is what we call our CS specialist that basically oversees those three staffs. They delegate breaks. They ensure that all the operations are up to up to par. And then from our 02:30 to 08:30 range, we have the three other staff. So, basically, they just they just fill the roles of the other staff.

And then we have a eight to four, three staff. These are our parks and recreation specialists, and these all three of them have a specialized role. So we have one for seniors and we have two for our facility rentals. Saturdays, it's the same deal of 07:30 to 03:30, which is our, you know, the three positions that I had noted and then with their one lead staff that oversees the operations. Sundays, are closed, but as the note says on the bottom, additional staff may be scheduled outside of our normal operational hours based on private rental and event schedules.

This is pretty much every weekend. As Christian noted, we have events going on every Saturday, every Sunday. And usually, we'll we'll utilize around two to three, maybe even four staff depending on how big the rentals are, how many rentals we are or we have, and if our rentals are both at the Fullerton Community Center and at the Humbranch Library.

Okay. Moving on to events. Starting off with our Floor To 9 Market, which is account 1115587. And I like to point out that the professional contractual, this is for twenty two weeks of the market. Last year was twenty six weeks for 2025.

Next slide, please. So from our professional contractual, mainly, the account is coming to cover our kids corner, which is face painting, house houses, live DJ, live entertainment. So all those live bands that people come out to see every single week comes out from this account for the entire season. And then for supplies, it's for key excuse me. It's for our info booth, keeping maintenance of the plaza while this the market is taking place, signage, advertisement, and then additional equipment for other vendors that take place at our plaza, so other departments.

For unfunded market request, this is mainly for staff request, and it's better to and it's mainly equipment for us to better execute these events. So it includes rolling racks for storage at the plaza, increased tables and chairs for the events, purchase more fire extinguisher extinguishers, and that's mainly for plaza rentals and our city events so that staff can easily have access to that. Upgrade barricades for street closures, upgrade signage for street closures as well. And then I did include on there, but I also would like to mention plaza improvements. So all those grates around the tree area, so electrical boxes.

So we just wanna improve the area so it's a much safer area for our market and other events at the plaza. Special events account 15588. So, basically, this one is a variety of events. So it includes a community yard sale, our Friday night live concerts, Spooky Street Spooky Street. So that one is our Oktobufest. It used to be named. So that's what Pukeh Street is this year. Veterans Day, tree lighting ceremony. So these are the fees from actual fees in the previous year, current fees, and then proposed budget. So going into more detailed for the community yard sale.

So, actually, for an overall of all these events, all these professional contractual amounts, it includes entertainment, rentals, contracts, equipment, electricity mainly. So a lot of these events does require more electricity in order to create, like, great entertainment or bring on food vendors or bring on more lighting, for example, for the tree lighting ceremony that requires more electricity. And then unfunded events request will be, like I mentioned, additional light installations at city hall, for example, for the tree lighting ceremony, power access, so city, city generators, and then storage unit because we are growing in events, so we need to store things that we purchase. Yeah. And then specialty events for account 15589, it's first night.

So this one does include our professional contractual mainly, but the also the overtime salaries that are increasing throughout the years. And we also did include also, like, PD, fire, and public works into these wages since we haven't really covered those accounts before. And then what it covers for our professional contractual is mainly our staff, entertainment, stage rental, sounds, electricity, additional rentals. So we don't have tables and chairs to cover us throughout the entire big event, so we need to rent out additional tables and chairs. Attractions, our Pyro Spectacular company for the fireworks shows, inflatables, and then additional entertainment for the snow lane.

And then an additional for supplies, it includes our rentals for I mean, covers our signage, our equipment, decor, food and drinks, radio rental, staff equipment needed for each event. And unfunded events request. So for example, we would love to have an ice skating rink. Does it keep going in and out? Okay. I don't know. Just let me know if you guys can't hear me. So it's an ice skating rink for the season that we would really love to incorporate, but, unfortunately, we don't really have the funding for it, which we would like to. And then increased funds for staff and lunch lunch and dinner. And I know that sounds a little silly, but we I did mention that staffing does it's not just parks and recs.

It's PD, fire, public work. So we do like to keep everybody well maintained throughout the whole event. So it includes snacks and water throughout the entire event. And then this next one is for fourth of July. It's very similar to our first night that I just mentioned.

So very similar professional contractor, including all those wages for the other departments. Next one. Very similar. So the only difference for this one is we are doing a three day festival for this budget year compared to what we had in the 2420 five year and what's proposed for the next one. So that's why the fees are a little bit different is that we are increasing it by three days this year, but it's the same layout. So same equipment rentals contracts for both supplies and professional contractual accounts.

This one.

And then this is our Brea Dance Sports Complex account, The 42588. So for this one, we do have mainly two big major events. Our first five k event and then also one summer concert because we were able to allocate the other three to the main events account due to the recommendation of providing these summer concerts throughout the city and not just at the sports complex. And for this one, for the five k, the professional contractual account will mainly cover our timing company rentals, which include our water tanks, rentals for equipment needed for our health fair, trophies, shirts, and then stage banners, etcetera, for our concert that's gonna be held there at the sports complex. And then this is our proposed fee, changes.

It's only by $3, so nothing too drastic, but, we did wanna find a way to get a little bit more revenue when it comes to our special events for, food vendors and craft vendors. And that's it on my end. Cool.

I'm going to highlight our Fullerton Fund, which is our recreation guide. The printing of the guide itself, and we do three prints or currently did three prints, it's about $50,000. The postage is what continues to increase. So we have three prints throughout the year, 50,000 households. It's about $34,000.

And then in that line item, we also incorporated all of our marketing and printing for the department, which we budget about $13,000 for that. And that includes banners, all of our printed material, anything that needs to print. So if we were to do, like, an open house, all the post all the note or postcards would be printed. Everything printed material comes out of this this line item. As I shared at the beginning, we did do a general fund reduction exercise.

Our goal was to reduce a 5% or sorry, hit a 5% target. And internally, we were focusing on efficiency and cost alignment and trying as best as possible to minimize service impacts. And that reduction exercise took us to a cost reallocation, which was the major component. We were able to shift about a $120,000 into the fund 42 and 30,000 into the water fund. And this best reflected staff and their roles within those funds.

So, we were as staff work in those areas for special events or other programs, a percentage of their salaries are going into those funds. And then, I don't know if you guys were aware, our Fullerton Community Center, we do have a staff that, that assists with taking water payments when the when city halls close. So more of her time being spent on the water fund is accurately reflected or sorry. On water payments is act accurately reflected through the Waterfront, account. Operational adjustments, we did have to reduce our, $40,000 in the Hunt library with staffing due to the rental activity.

But as you can see, we're inclining to increase rental activity. So there is for any rental activity, we do have a staffing fee, which is $30. So staff would just be allocated to that if there's a private event. Similar to FCC, you can in in the slide, noted that on Saturdays, we close at 03:30 for regular operational hours because we don't have the funding to go later. And on Sundays, we're a 100% closed unless there's an event and they're paying the staffing fee for staff to be on-site.

Again, we did sorry. Can you go back, please? We did reallocate, so staffing salary into the special event depending on the percentage of time they're actually spending on that event, some of their salaries are now more accurately reflected within those special events. And we are moving forward with the Fullerton Fund digital version. So we are no longer printing for the time being the Fullerton Fund or or mailing that to households, which will save us $86,000. We will have a few prints on-site if anybody wants a copy. However, we are not mailing any of any more of those at this

time. So

in summary, just highlighting that our budget is largely fixed and operational. Our programs are highly utilized and valued. We do have some limited flexibility for expansion, and our reductions do focus on efficiency and not service cuts. I do wanna highlight that staff been working diligently in making, you know, making our programs function with the minimum minimal cost. We did incorporate the to Jacob's point, the gym resurfacing this year, which wasn't done in five plus years or done poorly by the contractor, so we took that on.

But that facility is utilized six, seven days a week with large, rentals. And in addition to that, we started focusing on ways, to minimize our costs, try to increase our revenues. But a lot of the expenditures that you highlight are what we call internal service allocations, which is maintenance costs. So line items were facility costs, utility costs, and our or sorry, our mostly of that were the security cost and the cleaning the janitorial services cost. So we do pay other departments for their their use, or, sorry, their staffing when they service our facility and IT cost.

Sorry. It was the last one. So that concludes our presentation. Again, this is just an overview, and we're happy to answer any questions.

Thank you. Do do commissioners have any questions for staff? Actually, no.

I don't have any questions.

I have one question. In the past, have we has your department not taken on the overtime cost from for, like, safety personnel and stuff like that?

At least in the last two years, no. I don't know previous to that. But to give a full picture of each event and the actual cost, we we incorporate it into this year's special event. So that's July. But every department has associated those costs to their salary, their overtime line item.

Okay. So it's still technically kinda coming out of their their, like, their budgets.

It was.

But this this just reflects the actual cost of the event, not that you now have

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Over time. Okay. I just wanted to get that clarified. And then the fee structural change with especially with, like, the youth sports groups, have have they been notified that that's coming down the line? Because sometimes sometimes they make good money. Sometimes their their margins are thin.

I believe we were presenting it here Okay. To share it with you. Ultimately, fee schedules get adopted by council. Right. Similar to what we did last year, we informed all the all the participant or all the leagues that there was a proposal so they can share their comments and concerns to that. It's it's a dollar increase. It was a dollar increase last year. It's a dollar increase this year. The higher range increase for, I believe, group fives, which is the 5 and or $7 depending on facility, is based on those are more of the travel pay to play programs that have an increase because their rates fluctuate. It's not a fixed rate.

And some do have a nonprofit, but they operate in a commercial element.

So Okay. And then for the because you also redefined what the different classes were or groups. Right? It's One through five?

It just clarified to reflect our field user allocation policy. Okay. Because it's been this fee schedule has been a document that's been edited multiple times throughout the last couple years. Mhmm. So now we were able to solidify it and clean it up. So it just reflects accurately reflects what we have in our allocation policy.

Okay. So the adding of, like, kind of, like, adult sports leagues and and that kind of that and or new programs in it, is that really does that have any traction behind that? I only ask because I feel like the budget's already tight, and then we're adding more. You guys already stretched very thin.

We we would love to. We don't have city sponsored adult sports within our department, and it's very challenging. So that's an area that we're missing that gap, adult sports. So there was always an interest to add those. However, it is our budget is very tight in order for us to incorporate what a adult sports we had adult sports in the city before, within our department, and, unfortunately, throughout the years, it was reduced to nonexistent. So we right now, it's only rentals. We had an adult soccer program using our facility. There's some adult basketball rentals, but nothing city sponsored.

Okay. I was gonna because I was gonna say, like, the a lot of cities have kinda gotten the contractor way for adult sports, right, where they unless they have players, you're not having to pay anything. I mean, there's obviously maintenance fees, but they you have an agreement with them, and you kinda get a cut of it. And then you can make profit while they make profit. And if they don't play, there's no expense. I mean, it's another avenue to explore. I know those programs have kinda gotten harder, but, like, Major League softball and stuff like that just kinda depends on

what the players are. No. We definitely have had those conversations with staff. It's just also gym availability becomes a challenge.

So Yeah. True. Alright. That's it.

Obviously, each presentation had a listing of unfunded requests. My question is more for around, you know, the the sports fields. Are the majority of those unfunded requests new things, or are they things that have consistently been unfunded year after year?

Some of it has been things that we used to do, and then we no longer can do it because of funding. And some of it is new. I can give you one example. Fullerton City Football Club, I had a conversation with them last week, and they they want us to paint more fields. So right now, we're able to but we in our current budget, we're able to paint fields over at the sports complex, but they use major a lot more that of our fields, not just the sports complex. Right? That includes Ford Park, Acacia. Right? And those fields in our current budget, just can't do. And then also, this the supply of paint.

Right? We're only funded or the current funds that we have can support the painting over at the sports complex, not just at other areas.

Was the previous partner group painting their own fields, or were we painting their fields?

No. They were painting their own fields. So anything out of the sports complex and Bass And Cherry, those users were painting, their own fields.

Gotcha.

And then just to comment on the scoreboard thing at Nicholas and FSC and just for context as a baseball parent, every baseball parent these days uses game changer and could care less about a scoreboard. So I really think that an investment in those is probably not the best best use of of money. So and then I think about things like tarps for wind. I think that couldn't be as expensive as a scoreboard, but those would be things that I would prioritize over prioritize over a scoreboard. I do I did hear some things too, though, that kinda were kinda kinda concerning.

Like, if we need more fire extinguishers, we should probably get more fire extinguishers. If we have stairs that need to be repaired at Lions Field, we should probably repair the stairs. And I don't know how we do that, but those are the things that concern me. There's a lot of things on there. I'm like, yeah, that makes sense. We table that to another year, but things that directly impact public safety are things that I think we should prioritize. So if there's a way to figure those things out and things like that out, I think we should try to bring that to the top. Any other comments? All right. At this time, I will open it to public comments for this line item.

I have no one on Zoom.

As this is a receiving file, we will receive and file. That with that, I will, turn it over to, the commissioners for any comments. I think that's our last item. Correct? Yeah.

That is our last item. Yes.

For one thing I have, this is gonna require a second, but, essentially, if we can agendize just a parks master plan update, just an update on how the parks master plan is going, our when is the estimated, essentially report date and adding it to the agenda to make sure that that it's reflected next time. But it would need a second to add that to the agenda. So update on that. Parks master plan. Yeah. Just it's a receiving file. So pretty much.

I'll second that. Okay. I'll second the motion to have an update on it. For the next meeting. I don't know.

Okay. So we will agenda size that item on commissioner Maldonado. Yes. Vice chair Freeman. Yes. Chair McKendree.

Yes. And then I wanna thank you guys for everything you guys do. It's awesome seeing you out just out and about through these last few months. I didn't get to go to the, community yard sale, but I had a few friends did and they got a lot of cool it was really weird things, but I I very much enjoyed them. The egg extravaganza, I didn't get to stay for the actual child portion, but I did do my wedding shopping there, which was also very fun for me. And then I'm just enjoying everything that you guys are doing. Love it all. Thank you.

I second that. No. Just the same thing. You guys always do a great job. And I know listening to the budget presentation, things are tight. You know? And it's everyone's kinda feeling that pinch. And I just encourage you to continue look at doing the things you're doing and take a minute. And when things get asked for you to do more and really look at that and see if that's feasible and know that, you know, something's gotta give at some point. And I I feel like that would be on us too to kinda help protect the department.

So what you guys can do, you can do it well and not be stretched too thin and and let things fall through the cracks so your your standard of excellence stays the same so you can win more awards. Right? But, yeah, I I I think that's a good thing to note for you guys is just to we all we always get asked to do more with the same amount or less, but it comes up there is a breaking point, and I think it's it's you're getting close to that considering where the budgets are at and things like that. And you need to look at those things so you can push back a little bit and have have documentation for that if if needed. That's all. But great job, guys.

And for me, just thank you again for all you're doing. I'd echo the comments of my fellow commissioners here and just say I think it's great work month after month and just some encouragement as as commissioner Freeman just said but I'll echo that as well and say it's important to be fiscally responsible and I appreciate the 5% reduction exercise that you did. I think it means a lot and I know it's difficult considering the budget constraints that we do have but I think you're doing amazing work and all that you can do to keep spirits high, please do because you've got a great team and you're doing good things so we appreciate you. If there's no other comments, I will adjourn this meeting at 08:30PM.