Active Transportation Committee - Regular Meeting

Alright. I'll call the 12/01/2025 transportation and circulation commission meeting to order just after four. Can we have roll call, please?

Chair Cavallo?

Here.

Vice chair Mansuri?

Here.

Commissioner De Leon?

Here.

Commissioner Walker is absent. Commissioner Sherry?

Here.

Alright. We have a quorum. At this time, I'd like to entertain anyone wanting to speak on public comments. See no one here in the chambers. Anyone on Zoom? No one. We will move on to the consent calendar item, which are two sets of minutes, the August 4 and 10/06/2020 five minutes. I move to accept, the October 6 amendments of the meeting.

I second. Alright.

We have a motion and second for the October, set. Any comments or questions on that? I'll go ahead and take a roll on that one, please.

Chair Cavalho? Yes. Commissioner Mansuri?

Yes.

Commissioner De Leon? Yes. Commissioner Walker is absent. Commissioner Sherry?

Yes.

Okay. And with that, I'll I'll go ahead and, move that the August 4 set of minutes, be approved. And I'll second that. Thank you. All in favor? Aye. Aye.

Upstream.

Okay. Okay. We have three approved three in favor and one abstention. Alright. Moving on to regular business. We have, the selection of our new commission chair and vice chair for the, calendar year for 2026. I'll go ahead and then start the, the nomination. I'd I'd recommend, or nominate vice chair Mansouri to to the, seat of the chair for 2026. I'll second that. Alright.

We have a motion to second. Are there any other, nominations before alright. Seeing none. We'll go ahead and, take a role, I guess. Let me do it this way. All in favor? Aye. Any opposition? Alright. Anonymous. Motion passes. So with that, I'm gonna continue with the vice chair, or should I be handing the over Jeffrey?

Think you handled the You

know what? I don't know how we wanna do this if we wanna hold off if this is just for this count you know, the next calendar year. So, basically, we'll come back on February and February. You know, we know how you guys are being reorganized, or are we doing that right now?

So this would be for starting next year.

Okay. So I'll go ahead and continue Mhmm. The rest of this meeting.

Yeah. So this would be effective 2026.

Got it. Alright. Open the nominations for vice chair.

I would, nominate, commissioner, De Leon Alright. For vice chair.

I second.

Alright. We have a motion and a second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposition?

We will have to do these as a roll call.

Okay.

So if we can actually go back to the chair nomination and do that as a roll call.

Alright.

Apologies.

No problem. Let's go back to the, nomination for commissioner Mansouri as chair. We'll take a roll.

Chair Carvalho?

Yes.

Commissioner Mansouri?

Yes.

Commissioner De Leon?

Yes.

Commissioner Sherry?

Yes.

And then commissioner Walker is absent. The motion passes.

Alright. And the nomination for vice chair, we had a motion and a second.

K. Just to clarify, the motion was by

It was me. Art Mensory.

Mensory? Okay. And then the second was?

Commissioner Sherry.

Commissioner Sherry. Okay. So chair Cavallo?

Yes.

Commissioner Mensory?

Yes.

Commissioner De Leon?

Yes.

And commissioner Sherry?

Yes.

And then commissioner Walker is absent. Alright. Motion passes. Thank

you. Thank you. Alright. Moving on to the annual airport update. I'll, turn it over to staff.

Good evening, commissioners. Good to see you again. I so I thought there was gonna be a new commissioner. You guys are all familiar with the airport. You've all been there for the tour and last year.

So I'll run through kind of quickly and get to the the exciting stuff, you know. But just to you guys are aware, we're a general aviation reliever airport. General aviation means everything but commercial scheduled airlines and military. And, again, you guys know we have public safety, flight schools, private, lots of helicopters. A good little busy airport.

As you can see, the changes we've had our operations have have been on a pretty steady incline. A lot of that, I I would say, is due to just John Wayne's pricing, policy. They're somewhat pricing out smaller craft, which is good for us. So we're well over 350 based aircraft now, and our operations jumped up to over 90,000. So that's the first time I've seen that.

Again, you're familiar with our airport from an overhead view. There's some place markers for you. So when you talk about the health of an airport or the metrics, you know, big airports use either tons of cargo or in plane passengers, which, of course, we don't do that. So we go off these five criteria, the operations. Again, so we're on a pretty steady incline there. Nothing too crazy. That's good. And our hangar waiting list our hangars have been full since 2015. Our current waiting list is over a 100. So lots of demand for hangars.

All of our tie downs are accounted for also. And, yeah, based aircraft is up over three fifty as you can see here on this chart, like a nice steady growth without any spikes. You guys are familiar with our base businesses. Wings Cafe just celebrated their ten year anniversary doing well. They the last time I went down on veterans weekend, it was over an hour wait to get in.

So, doing really well, actually. As you know, highway patrol is still there, And I just got noticed that Highway Patrol is gonna be upgrading their fixed wing aircraft from a piston engine, what's called the Skyvan, to a turbine engine, Cessna Caravan. That's coming this year. Anaheim Police Department, I think you're familiar with two helicopters, and they have a caravan also. The one change, I don't know if I talked about this last year, OCFA has received two new firehawks.

I think you might have seen those. So great timing for those. They've been instrumental in the in the fires last year. And, again, the four twelve on the left holds about 300 gallons of water or retardant, and the new hawks carry a thousand each. So really in, you know, good capabilities out of our our airport here for firefighting.

Mercier, still doing well. They are also a if you're familiar with Chalk Hospital of Orange, they have an airship based there. That that ship comes in for maintenance at our airport. General aviation is still our fixed base operator. That's where you get maintenance and fuel, parking, rental cars, all that kind of stuff.

Hanger twenty one has been doing really well as an event venue. They've received Orange County's top wedding destination, I guess, two years in a row, which really impressive when you think about Orange County and compared to, you know, Laguna Cliffs and whatnot. They they beat them out. So doing really well. You know, I think, you know, you guys are familiar with our our terminal concept.

This was developed pre COVID. We're at about thirty percent design on this. And, but it basically got shelved just because the cost after COVID, you know, our our original engineers estimate was about, 7 and a half million. Yeah. 7.9.

The last time I got an updated engineer's estimate, it was over 17,000,000. So this is pretty much shelved, but that's not all bad, I think, because as we talk about air taxi service in the future, if if a there's a public private type partnership that I'm hoping we'll see, You know, having a 30% design is good. We've done kind of the basics, and that can be easily design engineered to or or design build, you know, type of situation to for the operator to build it out exactly how they want to use it. So so instead of that, I think I think you might have seen we're under construction with the AFI facility or former AFI. That's what the building looked like before.

This was our artist or architectural concept. So we did purchase that building with donor money, and a million dollars was added to that also to renovate. So here's basically what we did is maximize the office space. As you can see on the right, that's all new area. So my office now is in this building.

This is 4119 Commonwealth, just west of the tower. And the the rest of the facility is leased out to a new flight school, which I'll talk about here in just a sec. So these are some of the photos during construction. That's the maintenance hangar. The offices inside, all new electrical and plumbing and and all that stuff.

So this is what it looks like now, and those are just the project statistics. Our engineers need to do a better job of estimating, I guess, post COVID. Our lowest bid came in at $22,300,000.0. So I took a $1,300,000 loan from Caltrans, very low interest rate. It's a seventeen year payback.

And, basically, my the rental fees cover that loan payment. So we we basically get to live for free in this building other than paying some utilities. So we moved there back in March, and, then we issued an RFP to find a new tenant. And, we selected Flight Test Prep Academy. They're doing business in Long Beach for over ten years.

And, excellent flight school, very high caliber. They have five aircraft now on our line, and, it's been a pleasure working with them. They do high school, aged kids, summer camps, aviation summer camps. Over winter break, they'll be doing intense, simulator training, you know, for pilots. So, very active, very up to date flight school, and they also have a pilot supply store, which is really cool to have again.

We didn't have one of those when AFI left. So students can get charts and whatever they need there. Tenants can go and get a case of oil or tires or whatever they need for their aircraft maintenance. And and there's also gifts and things like that. So definitely wanna come down and take a look.

It's it's kind of fun to look around in there. Yeah. And they're also, they do a monthly Tuesday taco night, and they invite pretty much the whole airport out to just have some some common time, some talking, some hang your talk, that kind of thing. So, as you can imagine, the the tenants like this new tenant quite well. He's fit in well.

So we just finished our Runway 6 PAPI project. That's a precision approach path indicator. This helps pilots coming into the field from the West to know if they're on the right glide slope. And it that's what it looks like. It's just two light boxes, but they from a pilot's perspective, this is what it looks like.

If you're too high, you see white lights. If you're too low, you see red. If you see white over red, you're on the glide slope. So why that's important is because student pilots don't have that sight picture always just yet. This tells them if because we don't want them too low over the neighborhoods, obviously.

Right? If they're too high, then they could have another problem of landing long, but especially too low because, you know, we're we're encroached by residential all around. So we finished that project up. We are we just awarded the contract November 18 for this next project, is our really our contract tower upgrades. We got a $500,000 grant under the bipartisan infrastructure law.

So, yeah, they're in the process of doing all their submittals with engineering right now, and, we expect them to start construction in January. And it's gonna be, you know, a mild remodel updating ADA upgrades as best we can. In the stairways, you saw how kinda dilapidated all that flooring and handrails were. We're resealing the the tower cab windows. We're gonna repaint the exterior.

My proudest thing is we're gonna have a sign back up on the building, not only facing Commonwealth, but we're also gonna do one on the airside facing the airport. And it'll be backlit very similar to the monument signs we have out on Dale And Commonwealth and Magnolia And Commonwealth. So, yeah, we're gonna start that up here real soon. And then we're kinda slowing down a little bit on we went really wild for a while there during COVID. I got a lot of grants in the queue and a lot of projects knocked out.

The next one, we're gonna you know, the the hangars that are on the Magnolia Commonwealth Southeast side of the airport, they're built around circa 1980. They're starting to get this leakage, and, the electricity needs upgrading and that kind of thing. And because these are really our bread and butter, this is where we make our money. We wanna pour some money back into these, and I was able to get, I have about $1,100,000 left of what they call, airport improvement grant funds under the BIL program. So we're just finalizing our design for this.

We'll probably be soliciting construction bids here early spring. So and then our south ramp, which is basically from our new building all the way over to Hangar 21, everything we walked, we're going to do a phased design and reconstruction of that. It's it's at the end of its useful life. And like it says, it's a million square feet of pavement, so it's a big, big job. So I'm planning to do the design under a design only grant in 2027 fiscal year, and then hopefully start the first phase of construction in '28.

Yeah. So the fun stuff, lots of news going on now, and public's starting to hear more about urban air mobility or advanced air mobility. EVTOL is electric vertical takeoff landing. So the Joby model is on the right, and the Archer is on the left. These are the two, I think, companies to really watch.

Archer is the one that made that big investment at Hawthorne. They're they're in fact, here's the press release on that one. They're the official air taxi of the Olympics. So the other thing going on with Archer is the Trump administration put out what's called an EIPP, an an initial pilot program. And they're looking for public private partnerships to work with the OEMs like Archer and Joby to partner with cities or or airports to put in for a grant.

There'll be there's supposed be five of these awarded throughout the country. And, Archer asked us, Fullerton Airport, to be signatory on their submittal, which is actually being driven by Huntington Beach, and it's gonna include John Wayne and us. So that's pretty exciting. It's it's noncommittal. It's nonbinding, but it's it's basically what we're doing with, you've probably seen this press release that came out last summer, that we we started an MOU with with Wisk.

So I think this, you know, this helped. We didn't put this out as the city Boeing did or Wisk, but it it definitely gave us a lot of attention. And our Fullerton Airport's location and and the amenities around, like Disneyland and whatnot, these EV tall companies are really seeing the positioning. Like like what I've said, they're gonna be coming to us sooner or later when they're ready. They're gonna be talking to us.

So so it's finally starting to happen. I'm getting regular calls and meetings with with Wisk and with Archer now and Joby. So so things are looking good for Fullerton. So to be ready for this, this is kind of what we've come up with together with, my engineering team. We really need to look at our our capability for charging.

That's the big thing is the electrical power needed. And, of course, it's it's kinda like putting in a Tesla supercharger station as far as the the power needed. But as you know, these these data centers that drive AI, there there's kind of like a lot of competition now for electrical power. So this is what we're gonna be working on the next year is to figure out the the best way to bring the service we need, whether it's there's gonna be a cost to to it, to us for that service, and then how long it's gonna take to do it so we can be ready. We're also looking at leaseholds to where when leaseholds will be coming up for space to operate out of, they wanna have at a minimum the port they can bring in part portable charging stations, they say.

And then but they do ideally would want a facility to check people in and then also a hanger for maintenance. Right? So this is kind of what was given to me by Joby, a simple kind of check-in station and lobby, and then passengers will be provided like a safety video that tells them what to expect about the flight and emergency procedures and that kind of thing. So so, not a lot is needed. Nothing crazy.

But, again, we just wanna be ready for them when they are ready. And, I know Joby was talking about FAA test pilots will be testing their aircraft, soon in 2026, and that's really the final phase of certification. So they're looking to possibly start up service in '26 or '27. And Archer, of course, is all pretty much geared up for the this twenty twenty eight Olympics. So, but, yeah, that's kinda where we're at.

That's mostly what I have. But I know you guys probably have a lot of questions about the the air taxi stuff, and I'm I'm excited about it too.

Mister De Leon, go ahead. So, yeah,

I've kind of had my finger on the pulse of this for a couple years now. And so going back to the question I had, I think you put a timeline. I think you're right. It probably focuses around the Olympics. There's a lot of expectations with that. And so, you know, the different funding sources that exist in private public private partnerships. Are these evolving, or is there, like, a concept already that's kinda out there? I you know, I or or what what are your thoughts behind the potential of getting some of those monies here to be able to put the infrastructure in?

I mean, I'm I'm optimistic, and I think it'll come, but I haven't heard anything yet from these from them directly. So, it's a great question. I think they're putting most of their resources into getting the certification done because that's step one. And like I said, Joby was talking about limiting infrastructure cost, working with small airports because the infrastructure is already there other than the charging. Then Archer comes up with this this purchase of of Hawthorne Airport, which is a huge expenditure.

So, so there's two different philosophies going on. Again, for us, this is really our road map right here. They need space. They need power. And we have the we have the capability or the capacity to bring more service in.

But, you know, when this when this comes down to getting close, we wanna start doing community involvement. So because people are gonna have a lot of questions, and they're not there yet. We're we're just not there yet. So it's coming. It's just, I guess, one step at a time really is our philosophy right now.

So my last question was you talked about the the I guess you're gonna replace the asphalt around 2000 is it around '28? '28. Yeah. Knowing that as some you're gonna have some need for planes to land or helicopters to land because of the Olympics. Are you timing it so that it happens in the first or second quarter? I mean, have you thought about that? Because come the summer, I mean, that's when it's all happening.

Yeah. So so the grant cycles grants are typically issued right around May, June, late June, which means, construction isn't gonna start until you know, you typically, we start construction no sooner than, say, September. So I I don't think it'll be an impact at all. And and, again, it would only be if if we can't tear up the whole ramp in one shot. We'll we have to phase it, move airplanes, and all that. So so, yeah, we don't wanna impact that too much.

Yeah. I had the good fortune of, you know, visiting the airport along with commissioner De Leon, and it was a great tour. And my impression was, you know, it's a very well managed and very well run operation there. And I had some of the coolest pictures and due to which some of my friends believe that I'm really rich because I have pictures with these great airplanes in the background.

Yeah. So I

have not corrected that, you know, confusion about but so this is really I mean, I'd like a little more understanding about the air taxi situation. I understand you have, you know, three companies, Jovi, Archer, and Wisk. How does it work? So, I mean, somebody can just go and get on a, you know, aircraft and go visit the the Olympics venues?

Well, I so Joby is the model I'm most familiar with.

I see.

Joby is owns Uber Elevate or Uber Lyft. So the the owner of Uber sold Uber Elevate to Joby just because they believe in the concept. So the concept is you would take your phone out, order an Uber car to take you to the airport, and then seamlessly get on an Uber Lyft. And then at your destination, again, seamlessly have an Uber waiting for you. And the cost is really the interesting discussion because their target is to keep the cost at, like, an Uber black type ticket, which is, you know, much more expensive but not Unobtainable.

But how do you know the cost when you don't know the cost? Like, they only have two aircraft. Right? If there's two aircraft that there's probably a 100,000,000 each. Right?

But if you have a 100 aircraft, they're more like 10,000,000 each. So the production has to ramp up, but they that that was the most interesting discussion I've had yet is who's going to use the service. And that again is dictated by cost. So so they're they're just kind of, it's it's very interesting. They don't know yet, but, they do know that these aircraft should be one tenth the cost of a helicopter and, like, one fiftieth of the noise of a helicopter.

So so you know it's gonna be successful. And and the more I think about this these aircraft, I think traditional helicopters, we know them, are gonna probably be replaced by these aircraft.

These aircrafts are like helicopters. They just take off. They don't need long runway. Is that correct?

Correct. So they can do vertical like a helicopter, or they can do a a short takeoff landing, which is ideal, like, from to and from the runway. That way it doesn't use as much, electrical power to go than to go straight up and down. So they would at least Joe being Archer would land traditionally to the runway, taxi off, bark, charge, reload, whatever they're gonna do. So the Wisk model is more of a helicopter.

It does it's only vertical takeoff and landing. But again, Wisk is fully autonomous. They were just bought by Boeing in 2023. So the their target date is 2030, which I would say is pretty aggressive.

So if I understand correctly, so if I wanna go from here to, like, SoFi Stadium, I will, you know, take a Uber to the Fullerton Airport. I'll go to LAX. And from LAX, I would have another Uber taking me to the SoFi.

Yep. Okay. That's the model.

This is pretty pretty decent. Probably land

in Hawthorne.

Yeah. And maybe Hawthorne. Yeah.

Maybe. Well, if Archer lets them, I guess. Right.

Pretty cool. Hey. I was just wondering. Your power requirement is pretty pretty hefty, 500 kilowatt, four eighty watt volt. And I'm just wondering because at the airport, you have so much surface to put solar panels. Are you considering solar?

That's a great question. We have looked at it, but it would most likely be on rooftops. Right?

Right. On the hangars.

And like at other airports, at big airports when you see solar farms, they're somewhat located away from the movement area of the runway. Ours, we wouldn't really have that option, and the FAA is concerned with glare. Glare and glint, they call those issues that could temporarily blind the pilot. So it may or may not be an option depending on FAA regulations.

Thank you so much. Mhmm. Yeah.

Thank you. And I I concur. I think that the airport has run very well. I was very surprised to not surprised, but I was, I guess, delighted to see that you you were able to secure funding from the Biden administration for several projects and wrote those grants and mostly most of that yourself. And I encourage I encourage you to if if you at times need help, I know that the city, I don't believe currently as a grant writer, but we used to.

And we have towns and public affairs for legislative. And there's a you know, there's also an opportunity to secure funding through the legislative process, but also, you know, if there's too many grants or too much work and stuff, I I I think the city should have a a grant writing firm. And so that's I I just would say don't shy away from that, I guess, in asking them. The question I have is what does the f does the FAA are they beginning to implement a system to account for the increase in traffic with with these EV tolls and what that would do to, you know, the current the current system?

Yeah. The FAA has been that's a whole component of of this new urban air mobility that, really is gonna tie in with the drone package delivery that's being really driven by UPS, FedEx, Amazon.

Yeah.

So the thought is to have a chunk of airspace. You know, helicopters typically operate around 500 feet above ground. What I'm hearing and understanding is these these roots would be around 1,500 to 2,000 feet, which is, at that height, you won't even really hear them because noise is a big issue. But, there there's nothing definitive on that yet. It's certainly gonna be an impact, but it sounds like there's gonna be designated corridors. Okay. For for not just the and, you know, if you think about these are really drones that carry people.

Right. And I'm assuming at some point, you know, you were talking about the the the cost. I mean, I think Uber took a long time before it was until, you know, made money. It didn't make sense, really, for a long time until they were able to scale. And I think this will be the same thing. Right? You know, you have two aircraft now, but once you have 500, I think the math will work. But the other thing too is I I'm assuming they want it to be autonomous at some point as well, most of them. I even if they're starting off with pilots, I doubt that's their end goal.

Right. You're right. And they are autonomous capable now.

Okay.

But they they the other two companies understand that most people are not.

Right.

But risk is going full autonomous.

Very cool. I think those are all the questions I have.

So the the 1,500 foot height limit you mentioned, was that on the parcel delivery or on these?

Well, I've heard that used 1,500 to 2,000 feet, for both.

For both? Okay.

Yeah. But I you know, that's that part of it I know the FAA is putting a lot of work into this. I'm not completely up, or I haven't heard anything different, let's just say. So that's supposed to be the plan, but I don't think that they're quite there yet. I I obviously, when the the certification part of the FAA is probably talking to the airspace part of the FAA, I would hope. So they they're both ready when they're when the air aircraft are ready to operate. And you mentioned helicopters are about 500 foot level? Typically. Yes. Okay.

Yeah. Just to get an idea from Fullerton Airport, what are the nearest municipal airports or other options that these companies would be looking at just in relation to Fullerton?

Well, I know they're John Wayne seems to be a popular spot at Clay Lacey Aviation, which is a big FBO there. But they're talking to LA County airports. They're talking to Florence, obviously, Hawthorne now with Archer. What about up this way in San Gabriel Valley cable, or is there one in Pomona? I'm not sure. That's Bracket Field. So that's an LA County airport. Okay. I don't know, to be honest. I know they're talking LA County, just because my buddy runs LA County, they have five smaller ports like Fullerton.

So, Foxfield in Lancaster, Whiteman and Pacoima, Compton Woodley, El Monte, which is now San Gabriel Valley, and then Brackett Field. So there's they're talking to them about all five.

And there's a fairly big one in Chino also. Right? Chino's yeah. Just wondering if they're probably looking at the whole region.

So I would think so, but their focus is really on the most densely populated urban areas because that's where the traffic's gonna be really bad. Right? That's the whole point of it is time is money. So they like Orange County. Like I said, Disneyland, the Pawn, the Angel Stadium, all those destinations. They like LA, obviously, or SoFi and and the Forum and all those things. So so I think we're we're gonna be really popular here.

But when you jump on a private jet, you don't have to go through TSA. Would you need some sort of a with youth jump on one of these?

Yeah. They have it would be similar to, like, a part one thirty five taxi or a charter now that they have a different defined security program, but it it doesn't necessarily include taking off your shoes and all that kind of stuff. But they have bag scanners and and similar things just on a smaller scale. Like JetSuiteX. I don't know if you've ever heard of JSX. It's like a public charter. So they have their own security screening program, which is has been very effective, without all the TSA personnel and costs. Right.

We have commissioner Walker, our newest commissioner. This is

Hi there. Welcome. Our airport manager. Yes.

Do you have any questions? I know you missed the

Yeah. So I actually got to listen to part of the presentation while I was driving. I I don't I couldn't do Zoom and log in to Zoom while driving, but I could at least listen to it. And so Great. I got to got to hear the the opening parts of your your presentation. I just had some concerns as it pertains to the battery energy storage system and how well or how are you how are you and your team working with the fire department to address any concerns with implementing a new a best system. I I work in utility industry. Thermal runway is a big concern for a lot of our facilities. A lot of times our our departments are not necessarily capable or or I didn't say they're capable. They're just not trained to address that type of infrastructure.

Right.

And that's sometimes usually something new. And I'm not quite sure what that looks like for our city overall, but this is potentially a learning opportunity for them as for you and for the city departments as it pertains to implementing those sort of large scale best best facilities. Yeah.

Yeah. That's very forward thinking. To to date, my discussions with the operators are that the there's no battery storage just, on the aircraft itself. But eventually, as it grows and gets more popular, that will be a concern. And, yes, that'll that is definitely something to work closely with fire department.

But I don't I haven't got there yet, to be honest with you.

Yeah. I just

Not there yet.

Hope that's on the as far as as I guess, unlisted for short term. I just want that to be in the forefront.

Mhmm.

Just minimizing that,

you know,

public disclosure to that sort of risk that's out

there. Alright. Any other questions? Anybody on Zoom? Alright. If

you have if you'd like a tour, just give me a ring. Come on now.

Okay. Thank you very much.

Good to see you all. Good to meet you.

Have a

good night.

Yeah. Alright. Steve? Moving on to the next item. Overview of Parking Districts 1 And 2. I'll turn it over to staff for the presentation.

Alright. Sorry about that. I'll try to beat his presentation, but I doubt I will. I think the airport is much more interesting than our brief overview here about the parking districts. So with that, I mean, yes, the traffic commission has has has a committee also oversees two existing parking districts within Downtown Fullerton under the umbrella of the board of parking place commission.

So here we have a little bit of background on the vehicle parking districts themself. It is a a state what is it? It's it is a streets and highway code that allows for the making of these districts. It's used by local government, obviously, to build and operate the different parking facilities within a local agency. It can sometimes be used to finance the cost of projects within those districts by either issuing bonds or levying assessments.

Let me let me see. Okay. So the charges created by these laws are considered benefit assessments and therefore must be calculated based on the benefit of each property each property will receive. So at the end of the day, this does benefit a lot of the businesses within the district, a lot of the property owners within those districts. And those districts usually are initiated if the creation of these districts are usually initiated by petition of landowners and they do require a vote of approval by those landowners surrounding the districts to be created.

It's also something where local agencies have the power to do it themselves. I know that it does go to a local hearing after the fact where residents, businesses get to basically give their opinion on the formation of these districts. And like I said, once form, it's managed by an appointed commission which in this case happens to be the Board of Parking Place Commission which falls under the Traffic and Circulation Commission. I think I talked a little bit about this but basically yes, you know, the cities can may use this law to form district and levy assessments. There's other revenue sources that may come to these may come from these districts such as user fees or parking meter charges.

Here in Fullerton, we do have, like I said, two districts, District 1 and District 2. They are let me see if I think we have a slide. They are down here in Downtown Fullerton. Their boundaries are Wilshire, Commonwealth to the North and the South, and Malden and Pomona to the East and then the West. So those are the two districts within the the parking districts and here you have a zoomed up view of the two parking or I guess it's four parking lots and one structure that fall within the parking districts.

Like I said, we have the two districts here. They were formed back in 1958. That's when the petition was filed to form the districts. And and then soon after in '58 and '63, District 1 and District 2 were established by ordinance of city council. The I think there's a here's a timeline, right?

So the the parking place commission was established in '67. I think there was some reorganization and eventually consolidated to become the Traffic and Parking Commission. In '81, what we see today which is the Traffic and Circulation Commission was established to oversee the districts. Basically, the Board of Parking Commission, it's a little bit funny how it works, but it is a subcommittee of the traffic transportation and circulation commission. So by default, being members of the TCC makes you a member of the Board of Parking Place Commission.

The responsibilities are only confined to those parking districts and any parking lots and facilities within those districts. Basically, I mean, in my experience, when we do have a request that needs to go before the Board of Parking Commission, the way it typically works is we'll be here for the TCC meeting, temp that meeting temporarily adjourns, the board of parking place committee commission convenes. We discuss the topics, matters, requests, whatever it may be. After the fact, the board makes decisions, provides resolutions based on the hearing, and then the board adjourns and we reconvene as a TCC and we continue with normal business as it is in the TCC. So it's a little bit weird.

I think there's a little graphic in here. Right? We we we literally come back as the same commission, same committee. So that's basically how it works. In my time here, we've had one hearing about one of the districts down next to Ace Hardware, that parking lot, when we had a when we did the new trash enclosures.

We had new trash enclosures that resulted in the loss of parking. Staff works to try and minimize that loss, but at the end of the day, I think there was a total of two or three parking spaces that were just going to be lost to make room. We had a hearing here. There was a couple people in here that just, you know, in favor and and then that resulted in one of the latest resolution that we have, and then that was it. So we were convened as a TCC and continued normal business as a TCC.

Like I said, I think I've probably mentioned it a couple times, but basically, the duty of the board is to protect the business interest of the, you know, the businesses within those districts. Right? It reviews all construction items related to the to the districts. Like I said, in that case, was a trash enclosure. One in one of the parking lots, it did it did ultimately reduce the number of parking spaces that were available to the district.

It does review paving of parcels if it if it, you know, again if it reconfigures the parking and and the availability there. Access to the district is also reviewed by the board and basically anything affecting the overall availability of of parking within those districts, it comes before you. Let's see. Yeah. So that includes, like I said, parking itself, but it also includes some of the lighting systems within the parcel, any construction, walls or fences, like I said, in that case also the the trash enclosure.

The board does make the final determination. There's no it does not go beyond council. Whatever resolution is created here at the board, that is the final say. And we do have I think we're at about 43 resolutions since the establishment of the board. So like I said, all all final decisions do result in a board resolution.

Again, here's the map location of the parking districts. Parking District 1 on the West and Parking District 2 on the East. Here's a clearly clear outline of the two parking lots within Parking District 1 on each side East Side of Amridge. And again, the Parking Parking District 2 does encompass not just two surface lots, but also the Wilshire structure across from the Fullerton Museum. Like I said, very typical item items reviewed by the board, the use of parking lots within the parking districts, parking permits, we do have parking permits that allow business employees and very very few residents within those districts to park in the lots beyond the posted time limits.

So the the city does maintain a a permit that allows for that. Any time restrictions within those spaces also comes before the board and allocation of the spaces as well. And like I said, the trash enclosure location, reallocation of parking spaces, that was the latest, which was actually, here's the date, December, about three years ago, December 5, which resulted in the forty third resolution for the board. This I think that's it as far as the board itself. I just think it was important, you know, Michael and I and Julia, the the whole team thought it was important for you to understand what it was, how you know, if I mean, even if you're yourself have concerns or comments related, we can always decide if we need to bring something to the board.

As well, if if we get any comments or concerns from residents or business owners in the area, it'd be something that the board would see and ultimately if we have to make a decision or if we have to make alterations to the parking lots, whatever it may be, that would come before you as well. So with that, I'll just open it up for, you know, questions. Anything you may want to discuss or comment on, just let

me know. Oh, we'll have questions. I have I'll start with the questions. Maybe we can put up the the slide with the enlarged two districts. So the first question is having to do with the areas that you had kind of outlined as Mhmm. With the large are those is that a city are those city owned lots?

Yes. Technically, they are city owned lots. They they are basically city owned lots that provide a benefit to the private businesses in the area. So I believe that a lot of the businesses when you're coming in as a new business, the those parking districts actually fulfill your requirement to provide parking. Right? There's

no of what type of use because

I think in some cases, I I wanna say there's a there's a there's a limit. Right? If you're doing you do sometimes need to pull a conditional use permit Right. In order to go in with your business. But I think at the end of the day, in my experience, when we're reviewing those conditional use permits when they do fall within the district, the boundary of the district, the I think it's a downtown parking overlay zone, something along those lines.

There there's another you know, we we were on the planning commission, so we're aware of a resolution or an ordinance that went in that said maybe a restaurant overlay zone.

Yes. There is. A restaurant overlay district.

So regardless of the size of your restaurant, if you're in a certain district, you're good to go. Yes. Open for business. There was another slide where you kind of outlined

The individual parking lots.

So those look like, you know, open lots that are open. Yeah. You know, public lots. But there's areas where you you see parking, not on the street, but within the district that are, you know, areas where

you parking. Yes.

No. Besides the street running up down, you know, north south here. Yeah. But there may be areas maybe on the other block that are right here, north of you know, there's areas where they include stop parking. Mhmm. That's not

so if it's

not Is it a private lot there?

Yeah. If it's not outlined, it's most likely a private lot. Actually, even within this district here, I believe there's maybe, like, three or four spaces that are technically within private lot down here in this corner. I don't know if you see there's a couple vehicles.

And even down here to the right Commonwealth.

So there there's a couple areas where it's technically not you know, it's part of the parcel or the property adjacent. Mhmm. But what you see outlined is is those are the the the boundaries of the actual lots within those districts.

Well, I appreciate it because I was not aware that this commission was also associated with this parking district.

Yes. Yes. And like I said, it doesn't happen too often, but I think the last couple times it's been related to our CIP projects, you know, we have to provide maintenance. I know there is I I think we we may be looking at I know the condition of this this of this lot here. I think we were looking at potentially seeing what funding is available for us to resurface that lot.

So at some point, maybe in the near future, you may actually be seeing an item related to that lot on the South Side. Really, you know, if obviously it's an older lot so, you know, codes have changed, ADA is different now. So at the end of the day, you know, when we look to address maybe some of the existing ADA concerns there, we may have to reduce the amount of parking available to the businesses and to the people that are looking to use a lot. So in that regard, we may end up actually being here in the near future with an item for you guys to review and ultimately make a decision about whether or not it's in the best interest to reduce the the number of parking stalls.

Alright. Appreciate it. We'll start this way. Mister Walker?

I mean, just thank you very much for this for this sort of overview and update and just really kind of providing clarity on this. But, yeah, kind of interested to see what comes up here in the in the near future.

Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. We'll we'll we'll I mean, yeah, you guys will be the the first to know when we if if we go in that route, you know, any changes and and how they may or may not affect the district district itself. Itself.

Thanks, Jeffrey. And I think one of the reasons why Michael probably had scheduled to bring this up to is because in October, I he he presented on our responsibilities, and this was in it. And we just sort of glossed over it. And I emailed him and was like, wait a minute. Because I just figured the council or somebody had final control, but we have the control of these parking lots. So I have a few questions, and I think you've answered some of them. But the entity that handles any of the any of the financial aspects of maintaining these districts is the city. Correct? So if they wanna repave that, that's all gonna come from the city striping signage, etcetera.

Correct. And and we also are responsible for just active maintenance altogether too. So our staff is out there making sure that signs are obviously legible Mhmm. That if there's any damages or anything like that, we are yeah. The city city staff will be, you know, conducting maintenance as

well. Mhmm. And when the city put together its under mayor Fitzgerald put together its parking paid parking program, did they have to go to the did they have to come to our commission to institute that parking that paid parking program in these lots and in these districts?

That's I I'm not a 100% sure. We do have I do have a consultant on board, Dave Langstaff, who was with us the past thirty eight years. Dave, if you're on, would you be able to clarify if if that came before the the board of Parking Place Commission?

Good evening commissioners, Dave Langstaff. It did go in front of the commission on several occasions as we fine tuned that program. It was actually led by our planning department. So it did go in front of the commissioners. They did approve it, and it went on to counsel for ratification and payment of that program to set up the kiosks, etcetera, etcetera, the the signs.

Okay. Dave, just a quick question since I have you. Do you know how much that are do you know how much, on average, like annually for instance, our parking our paid parking program makes in revenue for the city?

I do not know that number.

No. Apologize. Yeah. We we can we can talk to planning. I know they oversee a portion of that program. We can always get if if we have a number, we'll we can get that back to you.

Please. That would be great. And then, you know, there was a couple slides in there about the responsibilities of sort of what the district is here to do. And it said, represent the interests of the businesses that surround these lots. This commission was established in or this district was one of them, at least, was established in the fifties. How do we know what is in the best interest of businesses, most of which probably haven't been there since the fifties? I mean, is there is there an occasional

I mean, I I will I will defer to the fact that we you know, when it comes to making a decision, it's very much like TCC. Right? We do get, for example, this last one back about three years ago, it became a hearing. Right? It was an open hearing.

We had we had several people from the businesses show up basically to either, you know, plead their case about why they supported it, right, why they felt that the need for the trash enclosures, you know, obviously superseded the fact that they were gonna lose parking, right? They they felt that that was the the bigger need in the district, right? So Right. I I think the way it functions and it's always functioned is based on the fact that it served as an open hearing. It served as the opportunity for public, the businesses, the residents to come in and basically give give their 2¢ on what's going on.

For that case, we did have staff actually go out and and hand out flyers to all the businesses within the area that would have been affected. So it was an open hearing and and we did get a decent turnout for for what it was. I think people were definitely interested in the final determination, making sure that it was it had really was just the loss of parking and no other major changes, right, besides the trash enclosure, no circulation changes, nothing that would affect the way that the businesses themselves were run. So I think that's basically the gist of it is that that's how we anticipate that you guys would be able to make a decision that would be, you know, in the favor or not of some of these improvements, but ultimately for the benefit of the the current businesses.

Okay. And then can the commission engage in any activities to repurpose, rezone, or sell these lots?

I would have to get back to you on that. I know we have I know that obviously the the maintenance of it is is the maintenance and all the acquisition operation, the the repair of the parking facilities all becomes part of the district itself, the board. Administering as well, I don't I don't wanna say whether or not that necessarily means, you know, hey, we were interested in, you know, selling or acquiring additional. That I would we would have to get back to you on that, the definition of what that means when it when it does come to administering the districts. You

know, just, I guess, my mindset and why I'm asking all these questions is I think that open air lots like these are are really bad use of public land and could be repurposed. In Fullerton specifically, we have needs for housing. We have needs for more economic diversity and vitality in our downtown. And open air lots, single level lots like these are, you know, in my opinion, sort of a lost opportunity. And if they're you know, I know that council's always looking for revenue and things like that.

But I think that you know, I just think that fifty years later, sixty, seventy maybe, what is it now, seventy five years later, some of these lots could potentially use some re envisioning. And I know that there's probably not a lot of appetite specifically right now. And you might even think, well, lot of these business owners aren't going to want it. But maybe they will. You don't know.

We don't know because this district was put together in the '50s. So that's sort of my opinion on this is maybe we could put our heads together and talk to council members and businesses and see if there's anything that we could do for these lots, you know, besides their current purpose.

Yeah. I I will say we do have a a heavy demand for employee parking in the area. We do run a program that obviously benefits the employees in this area and provides for parking in proximity to the businesses. We do probably actually we're we're under parked for the demand that there is for the current employees in the area. So we are actively I know we we have obviously, there's different work shifts and all that, but we do issue.

I think we issued about 1,700 permits last year. Obviously, not 1,700 employees aren't parking all at one time in these lots. There's shifts, right? But there is a high demand for employees aspect of the parking. So they are definitely utilized right now. So but like I said, you you you know, to your point

Right. Well, I mean, you go back to the last slide, for instance, the one next to this, right, you have two lots, single level. You could have one of them be a structure across the street, which double, triple, quadruple your parking. And the other could be Fullerton packing house. It could be housing. It could be anything. You know, you'd have to make it so the businesses around it would want it. But you it doesn't have to be a loss of parking. If you explore other opportunities, it could be you could increase parking potentially because these are, you know, these are service level lots. I agree.

I think we don't have enough parking. But I think one of the reasons we don't have enough parking in downtown is we don't utilize some of the lots. We're one by the train station. There's that parking structure there that no one really uses. And then we also have these single level lots. So I think I understand that employees will want that, and that would upset businesses and stuff. But I think a reimagining could be useful. That's all.

Okay. And then I do have Dave. Dave, I don't know. I think you may wanna chime in. Right? I see your your hands raised.

Yes. Thank you. Just to kind of expand on the commissioner's comments, these parking lots have been looked at by numerous developers. There is no exclusion that they can't be built upon, obviously, with the commission's oversight. But they do look at it for the additional parking as well because there has to be a substitution of parking. For instance, if a development did come in, it would not only have to meet the needs of the new building, but also replace any lost parking in those districts. So you are correct. They are open for development. It's just a matter of when a developer wants to come in and and bring the topic up to the planning department.

A quick follow-up on that, Dave. I appreciate that. So could you, for instance, if you were going to reduce parking spots in one of these locations, could you, for instance, add like, if you were reducing parking in one lot, could you add more parking in another lot and things like that? I mean, a developer could get creative, I I guess, if they wanted to.

Absolutely. They typically build it within their own parking structure. If you go over the slide on the East Side Of Harbor, I can give you a good example of what we've done in the past. There you go. The district actually used to go up to Chapman Avenue. What you see is that large multifamily development. It used to be Bank America. They took that over, and the parking lot was moved to what is now the Forti Museum, So we had to do a substitution of parking there. That parking at the museum was then replaced with the plaza. And so just south of Wilshire Avenue was a parking structure the city had built, and all the parking within said structure was the city owned.

So we moved that substitution of parking into that structure. I don't know the exact number left, but I think we only have about 40 spaces still left in that structure that could be used as substitution. But you can move the parking spaces around. You, you know, could buy additional land and and put us a part of surface lot or a parking structure. So you do have the ability to kinda move it around.

Alright. Thank you.

Alright. Thanks. Commissioner Matsuri.

Yeah. I I don't have any real questions. Just comment, actually, I tend to agree with commissioner Sherry that, we should look into better utilization of these,

you know, the land.

Also, I have personally not attended a meeting of the board of parking place commission yet, which means, you know, it's been a while. We haven't had a meeting, which seems to me that things that must be going great, no problems. You know, that's awesome. What have you some some of the problems been besides the trash enclosure and what have you? Also, just another comment.

It may not be a very popular comment, but I understand that the the ruling of the board of parking place commission is final that, you know, we have the final say. Now as a matter of principle, I believe I mean, may not be a popular view, but I believe that we serve, you know, as a advisory, you know, body to the city council. So I think we should have the elected officials have the final say, on these matters, but that's my personal opinion. But if you could tell, you know, what have been some of the issues besides the trash as as it relates to District 1 And 2.

For the two districts that had had handed, I mean, the issues are obviously maintenance. Right? We wanna make sure that the facilities themselves are up to standard, right? Whether that's ADA, whether, you know, that's, you know, the you for the use of the the different businesses. So like I mentioned, you know, there is, you know, we are looking to see if if we are able to repave one of the parking lots, right?

So that's those are really the issues is maintenance, making sure that they're not, you know, in bad shape. Right? For the most part, outside of that, obviously, the trash enclosures is something where, you know, just by state law, we have to make sure that we're providing the different facilities for the different uses. Parking District 2 would probably that lot would also be there would also be an update, right, an upgrade for those trash enclosures as well. Outside of that, really, it's just, you know, the we do run an employee parking permit here and I think that's one of the biggest, you know, right now is just making sure that that is operating well, that we're meeting the needs of the businesses, that we're being fair to the businesses, you know, there's no business receiving more parking permits than it should, right, because at the end of the day, we have a limited space, right, and just making sure that everybody has parking for their employees is is definitely something that we're always trying to work with the businesses to make sure that that's the case.

So those would really be actively right now the the current issues, right? There's, you know, sometimes we get issues with, you know, somehow the parking spaces are used, you know, a lot of these businesses had to take deliveries. Right? We have to make sure that the deliveries are being done properly, that they're not blocking access to some of the other parking spaces or anything like that. So it's just, you know, common issues related to parking and enforcement as well.

How many total parking spaces do we have in District 1 and District 2?

Oh, you know what? I I don't remember off the top of my head. I know we had a count of some of the downtown parking. Julie, do you happen to remember what that number was? It was right on

the Jeffrey

7. I I

I know we have 314 alone in the parking structure on the East Side in District 2. Yeah. I think we're right around a 120 in each lot.

We can follow-up with the actual number. We had staff go out to have inventory within the last couple months of what was available, and I I wanna say the number was, like, just under 700 total. So but that may include some other parking structures that are outside this district, but we can always get you a solid number of what the specific lots within the district itself.

So for these 700 parking spaces, we have 1,700 permits issued.

Correct. Okay.

Is there a fee that we charge for those?

Yes. There's a there's there's a resolution that establishes basically a a $6 fee per permit for the downtown employees. Yeah. So it's it's not it's not a big fee. I think we haven't we don't have any complaints. I think most people are more than happy to pay that to allow for their employees to park.

So $6 per

Per permit.

Per permit per year?

Yes. Correct. Yes. Permits or actually, we're just we're we're just opened up for the twenty twenty six year, so we have people coming in to purchase those as well.

Isn't that kind of low? Should

I mean, you know, it's always established per the the latest resolution we have on file. Is it on the lower end? You know, that's up to your, you know, everybody's opinion. But I think for the most part, you know, the businesses are more than happy to pay that, you know. It it depend most the most businesses I think in the downtown area are 10 to 20 employees.

So it's not, you know, it I think it allows them to park a little bit more or over the posted period, and it it's a fee that they so far, you know, seems to be working. Right? Are are we open to updating that potentially, but, you know, we'd we'd have to have another discussion about that at the end of the day.

Would it be under our purview or council

I I believe, obviously, the resolution itself was a council resolution to establish the permit program. So I wanna say that the permit program itself because the permit program does, while it does, you know, it it it primarily is within these parking lots, it does extend to other lots within downtown. So it's not just within the district. So the the district itself does provide a heavy amount of the number of spaces that are available for the permit program, but there are lots outside of of here that do provide some parking as well like

the structures in SoCo, the new structures? Or the

SoCo is one of the structures that doesn't. That we we yeah. That one doesn't have is not part of the permit program itself, but we do the like, the parking lot down by the Spaghetti Factory. That lot there is part of the program as well. And that's a lot that wouldn't fall within the dis either of these two districts.

I'm done. Thank you. Yeah.

I got a couple of in listening to everybody, I think the main thing is reimagining what the parking situation should look like because I have spoken to a number of the businesses in there, and and they are impacted, by their the customers are impacted especially around special events. Whenever there's something that's happening where it's bringing in outside vendors, especially around that plaza there, the vendors tend to park as closely as they can to that space. And as a result, the businesses surrounding there suffer from that because they stay there all day and the customers are driving around looking for space. So I I I my my my, I guess, my concern is that and I hope this happens that the city will continue to want to use this as a central hub for special events to bring in the community together. And if that's the case, then really we have to look at the parking situation and look at how we're gonna be able to accommodate that.

I also look at, you know, right here on Amridge, near Parking District 2, there's that vacant lot or, you know, that hasn't been developed. And I don't know if the city is always looking for property to be able to acquire in the event if a developer comes in and wants to build something there that it it pencils out for them. I gotta imagine the reason why they're not, you know, really wanting to take that step is they're trying to figure out how this pencils out for them because they're there to make a profit. So I I think the word reimagine is probably the one thing I would say is the most important thing the thing that we could do to help facilitate not so much just the existing needs, but the future needs of this particular district because what you don't want to do is have the businesses suffer. That's that that would be a shame.

You also wanna ensure public safety, making sure that all of the things that are there are to ensure that we have public safety. And lastly, we want to I would think that this that us as a city wanna have this as a gathering place because it is a central downtown area, and it is unique in in the way it's it's the structures are. And it really is a pleasant place to be, but I think that when we look at, you know, maybe we can do this or that or I I think the whole space has to be included as part of a discussion to figure out what the best solutions are. In that way, if funding becomes available or or or a developer who is interested in really investing in this space, we have a basic set of requirements that that need to be met in order for that to happen. And I don't say that to create a demand for any future development.

It's just that you want it to be successful for everybody. And I think right now, we're I do believe that that the business' customer base is impacted by, by in particular, when there's special events. I mean, I you go there late on a Friday night for dinner or a Saturday night for or usually during the day. It's good. It's bustling there. But if you're gonna look for parking, you're gonna end up parking pretty far away. So those are the things that I would say. And I like the fact that I think it's on a Wilshire and Amridge, you have a Uber and Lyft pickup area. I think that was great. People seem to be respectful of that space.

I'm glad to see that, but and I'd like to see people more people use Uber and Lyft. But but, again, you're still you have a lot of attractive businesses especially around the restaurant area. And so I think we wanna do what we can to help make it as pleasant of a visit for everyone as we possibly can. Those are my comments.

Alright. Thank you very much. If there are no further comments, we'll go ahead and receive and file this item and move on to the next item, staff update on nonagendized items and past council actions.

Good evening, commissioners.

Good evening.

I'm able to make it back to the meeting. Jeffrey did a great job presenting the parking districts. So this upcoming city council meeting tomorrow, there'll be three items going. The first one is Bastion Cherry Road corridor regional traffic signal synchronization program grant. Fullerton is a participating agency.

The city of Yorba Linda will take lead on this, and this will involve Yorba Linda, Fullerton, and Placentia. It's going to be 11.4 miles. They'll include 36 signalized intersections, and it's $3,600,000 for the whole project. And it'll go from Bassin Cherry Malvern all the way to Bassin Cherry where it ends at Village Center Drive in Yerba Linda. And we'll be competing against all the other Orange County cities who send an application.

So it's not as competitive a grant as state grants. We only have 34 cities that can compete for these, like, state grants where it's they get 500. So I think we have a very good chance of doing this. It's scored well in the application. And so we'll be taking it for the resolution, then we'll be providing that resolution to Yorba Linda, part of the complete application.

The next one is Placentia Avenue Corridor regional traffic signal synchronization program. And city of Placentia will take lead on this, and this will include Placentia, Anaheim, Fullerton, and Caltrans. And this one's a little bit smaller, 4.4 miles, 16 signals, and the total cost for this project will be $673,000. Then the which is where I was right now. We just met with Cal State Fullerton.

The associated road assessment, where staff will be presenting recommendations to council for improvements along associated road as well as intersection improvements at associated in Yorba Linda. And we're presenting them. We do not know what council will say yet, but some of the options are a one foot buffer striping between the bike lane and the number two travel lane, install an enhanced detection system and striping at the intersection, as well as install continental crosswalks on the east and west leg of associated at Milton. And this is not crossing associated. This is running parallel.

And we'll see what council says. These are just recommendations of this time based on when staff made a field visit and what could be possible. And then moving along to CIP project updates, Staffing is expecting to bring the Euclid Valley View intersection study back to TCC during the February 2026 meeting. The Nutwood ATP project is underway. Staff is currently reviewing the 60% plans that were received today.

Staff has been working with Cal State Fullerton and Caltrans for design considerations and recommendations. The Harbor Boulevard complete streets project is underway. The kickoff meeting with the consultant is scheduled for tomorrow. Yorba Linda Boulevard corridor regional traffic signal synchronization program is currently under construction. City of Yorba Linda is the lead on this.

Fullerton is a partnering agency. Harbor Boulevard regional traffic signal synchronization program is also currently under construction, and Fullerton is the lead on that project. Euclid Street regional traffic signal synchronization program is waiting for the city of La Habra to advertise the project in order to move forward. Plans are essentially finished, and it just needs to be bid out and advertised, and then construction can start. And State College regional traffic signal synchronization program is awaiting direction from the city of Anaheim.

It was awarded to them from OCTA, and that means as soon as we have the okay from OCTA, all the cities can start working on plans and then construction. So that should be happening very soon. And that's all the city council and CIP updates at this time.

Alright. Thank you. Any questions on that? Walker?

Yes. As far as synchronization goes, I'd I would love it if it's possible for for staff to provide kind of a presentation on what that really means and what's really involved in that. I mean, I know we just kinda think, oh, all the lights are timed up, but I I know there's a lot more to it than that and really just kinda how that affects general traffic flow in our area as well as when you have potentially cross two cross streets that may also have synchronization lined up and what that really means, if possible.

We we can prepare that. And, also, to your point, we have multiple projects going in sometimes which one gets the priority and how do we handle it and what happens when it goes into multiple jurisdictions and Caltrans and so, yes, we can provide a an update.

I'd be very thankful thankful for that. Thank you.

Yeah. First of all, I mean, this is a lot of stuff. So congratulations to to you, Michael, and and Jeffrey, and and Dave on the call as well. I think it's really impressive, especially with, you know, the city's lackluster sort of economic situation. I think that it's really impressive that we have this many projects that we're working on for the residents of Fullerton. I had one question, which is the signal project on Harbor And Entrada. Is there any update on that? Is are we still just waiting for funding on that one? Or is there?

So that project, the plans are done. We have funding set aside. Now the holdup is we had done a recent upgrade for the intersection at Euclid and Rosecrans. And while we were out there with the contractor, we started potholing where we're gonna put the foundations for the traffic signals. Well, we found out there were a lot of utilities underneath the sidewalk that were not called out on the plans, so we had a lot of conflicts.

And because the same consultant prepared the plans, I did not have confidence in the plans, and I wanna make sure that we go out. So we're gonna go out very soon, and we're gonna lay it out. And we're gonna have our traffic signal maintenance company pothole to ensure there's no conflict. If we're confident that there's no conflicts, then we can release the plans and go to construction.

K. Very good. Thank you for that update. And then on the, associated as well, I know that this is kind of like a Frankenstein project kind of like. Didn't didn't council approve ATP updates for when they were repaving associated and then walk them back? And now is this where we're at, where council decided to sort of get rid of some of those adjustments that they made on associated? Because I remember that there was an original plan to do some stuff on Associated that was then maybe reconsidered.

That was, I think, North of Bassam Chewy to Imperial.

Okay. So we had two resurfacing projects and reconstruction projects split in in, you know, one in the south half between Associate associated between Erbil and the Basicenturi. We had a northern portion which was between Basicenturi and then Imperial. Yeah. The northern portion, we did have a hearing and a community meeting with the folks out there about, you know, whether or not it was something to consider.

I think it was it was technically a lane reduction and I think we just got it. We had enough feedback to make a recommendation in council to forego the lane reduction and just basically try and basically reinstall what was there with some additional updates. I'm sure you guys have driven down there. Have one of the biggest things that we were trying to do out there was just highlight the bike, the use of bikes, right, for the park for Cal State Fullerton. So we did go ahead and add a lot of green paint at conflict zones and everything like that to just highlight the fact that there are other users on the street.

So that was the ultimate improvement there. As far as what the item for the coming council meeting goes, it's really just how, you know, if there's additional improvements that can be done for the entire corridor. So that's what we'd be looking at.

Okay. I just I would encourage bike lanes and and any of that around Cal State Fullerton and Fullerton College or any schools in particular. I know it's hard when people complain about it afterwards. And also for Harbor as well, I know we're doing a lane reduction on Harbor. And the other thing too is I would encourage you all to look at class four bike, bike lanes as well on some of those streets like Harbor where there's a barrier. And that's all I have. Thank you, though.

And and also for Harbor, even though we're doing a lane reduction, we are adding bike facilities, not necessarily class four. And if we're doing class four, we wanna have it more of the raised one where it's essentially next to where the peds pedestrians walk on the sidewalk rather than having a little vertical obstruction in the street because it's hard for maintenance, and a lot of bicyclists do not like having something where they could potentially hit it and lose control of their bike.

Thank you. Thanks. Anything on this side? No. I had one question. You brought up the, the signal that Euclid and Valleyview coming back next month? February. Sorry. In two months. Okay. Yes. My my only request was, hopefully, we can get the report and all the background maybe a few days earlier than we typically do because I know there'll be a lot of, input on that.

Yes. We'll have a nice comprehensive, collection of data, and we'll give that to you Alright. Well well before the meeting. Alright.

Moving on. Commissioner communications. If there's any additional comments or no. Go ahead. Oh, sorry.

Go ahead. I I'm out of turn, I guess. I I just wanted to thank you, chair Carvalho, for for your work over the last year. And Thank you. And congratulations to our new chair and vice chair. I'm very excited for your leadership.

Thank you. So I have a couple of things I'd like to say. First of all, I'd like to take this opportunity, to thank my fellow commissioners for electing me chairman of the fuller city of Fullerton Transportation and Circulation Commission and board of parking place commission for 2026. It's really, you know, truly an honor for me, and I'm really looking forward to working with my fellow commissioners, the city staff, and the community to make Fullerton safer, smoother, and, easier to move through, for everyone. And so I appreciate, your trust in me.

I would also like to thank, my predecessor, commissioner Kerbaho, for, you know, success successfully completing the term and doing an excellent job at it. So thank you so much for your service. And secondly, I'd like to say that commissioner Kerbahoe and I served on the planning commission. And one of the things that I liked serving on the commission was our meetings started with a pledge of allegiance. I really like that.

It, was a really great thing. So if my fellow commissioners agree, I would like to, implement that, in our board meetings also in our commission meetings also to begin the open the meeting with the pledge of allegiance if it's all right with everyone.

I have no objection to that.

Okay. And my last thing is since we are going to now meet next year, I'd like to wish everybody happy holidays, merry Christmas, and happy New Year. Thank you.

Thank you. Commissioner Leon?

I echo everything my colleague, commissioner Munzuri has mentioned right now. I, you know, I I really appreciate I came in late into the the term, and I've learned a lot from him, from everybody here. I really appreciate that and your patience with me. I really wanna thank staff because you guys have done a great job of of really educating us about the things that are important to the the the traffic and circulation situation here in the city and and open to our, you know, our suggestions and comments because it it really is important as we represent the community and and and really are conveying what what has been shared to us. I'm looking forward to next year serving as vice chair and working with all of you to to continue to do the good work we're doing.

So thank you very much.

Thank you. Alright. Well, I'm I'll oh, go ahead.

I'll I'll keep it short and sweet. Really, also, just wanna thank my fellow commissioners for the leadership that they've shown and also the great work that staff has done. I know it doesn't, maybe it's not, the most exciting thing, but it's important. It's it's needed. I just wanna encourage them to think out of the box and look for innovative solutions to tackling the problems that we have ahead of us, but just amazing work you guys do. Thank you.

Alright. Thanks. Thank you, everyone. It's been an honor to be the chair of the last year. Enjoyed working with everyone here. I know we got new commissioners, some old ones. I first started a few years ago when we had seven of us up here. So things have changed. I thank staff for all the work you guys put in. You guys are the pros at it. We're just questioning you once in a while. But I I do thank everyone, and I look forward to the following year. And until then, I hope everyone has nice time off with their family and friends, and have a hap happy, you know, holiday season. So until next year. We're adjourned. Did you wanna say something?

Just going to confirm that, yes, we we were going to cancel the January meeting. Yeah.

Alright. No meeting. We'll see you in a couple months. Happy New Year.