Board of Trustees - Regular Meeting

Is this still out of town? Where'd he go? Somewhere in Asia. Oh, good for him. Ready? All right. When are you ready? Okay. Like to call to order the Town of Frasier Board of Trustees meeting Wednesday, January 21st, 2026 at 6:01 p.m. Can I have a roll call, please? Katie Fischer, Adam Quickman, Peggy Smith, Julie White, Katie Souls, and Brian Cirbenick. Uh, could I have an approval of the agenda?

So moved. Second. Any further discussion? All in favor? I. Any opposed? All right. Um, could I have a motion to approve the consent agenda which includes the minutes for December 3rd, 2025 amended, the minutes for January 7th, 2026, and a letter of support for safe, agile, fast, and efficient rail tract. So moved. Second. Any further discussion about that? All in favor? I I

right. Uh we will now move on to open forum. This is for business not on the agenda. If anybody would like to speak to the board, um we will give you three minutes of time. You can approach the podium or if you're online, raise your hand. Okay, looks like we don't have anybody, so we'll keep moving. All right, discussion and possible action regarding uh the treasurer's report. Lori to present. [clears throat] Good evening, mayor of trustees, Lori Waters, Binance director. Um, good to see you all.

You, too.

We had um a nice holiday break. Um, so here we go. Treasurer's port. Uh, these are going to be reflecting um December numbers sort of. They're not completely closed out for December, but I was using them and they should be hopefully pretty close. Um, so our statement of funds, um, the December, as you can see, are, uh, G, our GF reserves. Yeah, we've been using those. The, uh, pots property. We have St. Louis going on. Um and um I am I am really excited for the bond funds to get here. Uh that will enable your cash balances uh general fund, the Colorado trust to start building back up so we can get ready for projects for public works for the summer. Um I think that's going to be um you know very beneficial when we get that going. Um and let's see, we have the fund balances. Um general fund, yeah, was just about 9 million. Um 9 million one I round up. Um restricted revenue. Uh no big huge surprises there. um as far as the fund balances except for yeah we have uh we went kind of down on that general fund but you know we'll make it back up and we also have grant grants to Hello

Makes more sense when they see the picture

um also oh the other one was Um the Kosen's Ranch um it looks really high um as far as uh the um cash allocations. That's the bike park and um so we will be um we're looking into uh getting the grant uh reimbursements for the bike park going. Um, there's the uh the let's see the SEO grant. There's a SEO grant. There's the OLT County grant. There's the Grand County Conservation Trust Fund. Some funds were um allocated for us. Headwater Trails has been making collections. We need to contact them to see if they've received cash donations. they were taking donations. And then we are investigating getting the Go Co grant. We might be able to get a 75% reimbursement sooner rather than waiting all the way till about June to get 100% reimbursement. So, we're looking into that and we're going to get some reimbursements going. Also, um there's uh recent grant submitts. I'm doing all the January grant submitts for uh St. Louis. uh strong communities. We got that one in on time. I'm just waiting to see if I get a passing grade from Dola. And then we have the More Housing Now grant that'll be coming up that I'll be preparing to get submitted for next week. And we'll also have the uh Main Street Live and Public Works grants that will be helping to offset the expenditures. So, working on those.

Great.

Sales tax revenue. Um, if you can see the little black dot that's right below the purpley line there, January revenue is the December collection. This is November taxes. Um, November 2025 was $18,890 lower than 2024. That was a 3.93% decrease. Um, I would have hoped that we we maintained and maybe did a little better than the year before, but considering all things considering with what's going on, um, I was not too horrified at a 3.93% decrease. Um the thing that I'm anticipating is when we receive the December sales tax report, which won't be until the first uh the about February 6th. Um that one I'm kind of um got my fingers crossed that we're going to come out okay on that one. Um I am uh hearing not such good news out of the ski area. This is an unprecedented winter. Never been through one like this. Um, Scaria numbers are down. Um, they've only got about 25% of the terrain open. Uh, Breen Ridge isn't much better. They're at about 30% of their terrain. Um, so all of us ski areas are going to be having a bumpy ride for the rest of the season, I'm afraid. I'm hoping. I mean, we do have snow coming in this weekend, which will hopefully help. Um, but you know, whether we get enough to really I I don't think we're going to be able to regain everything that has been lost in skier numbers this year. So worried about that, but you know, few little hopeful hints here and there.

Um, now here's the surprise. Your short-term sales tax revenue. Um, if you look at November, it's that big tall blue one that stands up higher than the other years. Um, this is again the November sales tax collection. Uh, and short-term rentals were 13% of your sales tax revenue and it increased 17.7% over November 2024. I don't short-term rentals are rocking. I don't know. I can't explain it, but they are doing well.

And we've got a, you know, we've got a pretty good amount of them now and more are coming online. Everybody's been getting their certifications re-uped and so they've been doing great. Remote sellers uh were a little higher. Uh they did all right. They were still about 6% of revenue. They were about $3,465 higher than 2024. That was about a 13.05% increase.

So people were doing some online shopping. Uh maybe looking for those bargains. Um then the um expenditures, the one that's going to really kind of jump out at you is going to be the Kosan's Ranch open space. The uh bike park um is the driver of those expenditures. The 977,000 that's sitting there that goes surprise that's 175% higher than budgeted. That's why I listed off all those grants. we're going to be going after real quick. Everything else is pretty much in line. The general fund, you know, we're coming in pretty darn close. Uh again, these are December numbers. I am not completely closed on December. There will be reconciliations. There will be acruals. There will be all kinds of things happening, but this is just pretty rough. They they might change somewhat. um restricted revenue funds. Uh and this is also not showing the revenue that we just received. That's one of the acrruals I'll be making is the sales tax revenue will be getting put back into uh December 2025 through the magic of accounting. And then um everything else is tracking pretty normally. Uh like I said, the only one that was the big wow was the bike park. and we're going to get that taken care of hopefully very soon. Um, any questions?

Laura, you mentioned that we have more short-term rental licenses. Do you know how many more we've gone up or Wendy? Like a handful. Was it proportional to increase? 75 and we are if every once everybody gets their certificates of compliance which they've already paid for their permit um it will be 302. Wow. Okay. Second. Thanks. I'm sorry. You said 250 to 300 basically

275. So that's a 12. So, it's 8% growth versus 17 on the income. Any other questions, Lori? Well, thanks, Lori. Thank you for

All right. Safeway Riverbend, Sarah, and John Uritt. Board of Trustees, Mayor Sarah Tander, assistant town manager for the town of Frraasier. Um, I'm going to hand this over to John Uert from CPW. Um, but just wanted to provide a bit of context. For a number of years now, the town has been looking at what is affectionately known as the Safeway Bend and the Frasier River um and in a method to ensure that it would not be an issue in terms of potential flooding um in a year of particularly high flow. Um so a number of different projects have kind of been looked at over the years. um in meeting with John last fall um he provided recommendations for how he believes the town should approach this um and suggested that perhaps learning by doing um might be able to help us along with this project. Um, so we wanted to have John come and just kind of present what he would recommend in terms of an approach and get direction from the board um, if this is something that we would like to proceed with. And if so, we can then look into how we'd go about actually accomplishing this and sources of funding. But there are a couple different sources that have been identified to potentially help with this work.

Thanks and uh, thanks for having me. Um, as Sarah said, my name is John Eward. the local fisheries biologist with Colorado Parks and Wildlife. Um, and uh, so this Frasier uh, this Safeway bend on the Frasier has been a a point of a bit of concern over the years. Um, and rightly so. There's not a there's not a lot of room for the river to do much moving. Um, luckily it hasn't really. And so this is the bin that we're talking about. Um, I wonder There we go. I wanted to get to the 2D view. So, um, most folks are familiar with this spot if you've, uh, ever taking a little walk along the river right there. Um, so the concern is that the the river could move. I mean, a a river like the Frasier tends to, you know, these these bends tend to accentuate over time. and migrate outward, you know, on on an outward bend like that. And if if you know, if there was no development and it was just wilderness here in the Frasier River Valley, this river would just go through this evolution of of moving around uh snaking back and forth over the over decades and hundreds of years. But of course, we don't have that luxury, you know, in this situation to let the river do much moving. So, um, the the one place that there has been some change in the past decade or so is the downstream end. If you can see where my pointer is right there, this has um started to eat away a little bit more with some of the higher runoff years. It doesn't move every year, but it it it has moved a little bit over the last decade. And we've have some Eddie action starting to to build right there. And of course, you

know, the the problem there that we don't really want to to occur is that, you know, it could cut off this bend there. There's a beautiful pool right here that is just full of fish and is a fantastic um habitat feature. So, we don't really want to lose river mileage here and have the river cut off. There wouldn't be a big infrastructural risk to to seeing it do that. This this bank is um it's what we call voidfilled rip wrap. It has had rip wrap added to it to to um stabilize it at some point in the past and void filled rip wrap meaning that it's it's angular rock but it's filled with top soil in between the angular rocks. So the spaces in between the rock are filled in. But so, um, we would suggest that the the best course of action here to to, you know, the real risk is this little section of the bend is the one section that does not have a lot of protection. That rip wrap is back in there. But, um, you can see when and when you stand out there and look at it, it looks a little bit exposed. This this, uh, bench right in here. So, you know, one thing we talked in our in that our work session a little while ago about how important the willows and the willow banks are on the Frasier River. And this bank in particular is a perfect example of that. This bank is very very stable and does has not moved at all and uh is undercut and has that highly complex vertical structure with some overhang to it. It's excellent fish habitat. The fish just come pouring out of there. it's full of fish and um so the it's that mature willow stand that protects that bank there and that's why uh the river is not particularly threatening the the infrastructure beyond this mature willow stand because that is your buffer there. And so one of the things that would be great to do is to do some willow transplanting onto

this grassy bench here um to to help stabilize that bank and and start to provide more of that complex root structure that holds these banks in place. And then um so the other interesting thing is there's a there's a stand of more mature cottonwoods right here. And those cottonwoods have extended underneath the trail. And there are more than a dozen uh new cottonwoods on the river side of the trail here that were not there, you know, say 6 8 years ago, those cottonwoods were not there. And so with cottonwoods colonizing over closer to the water's edge, you know, that that in itself is a good indicator of stability and that is a benefit that's that's benefiting the riverbank there. And so then the other element is to deal with this eddy that's starting to form here and maybe recontour this this riverbank. And the way to do that so so this on the other side is one of these beach areas that we call a point bar. And point bars serve a really important function at at especially at high flows with rivers because they in their natural state and when they're functioning just right, which this one does function really well, they have a gradient to them that allows the river to spread out this way away from that outside bend. And um so probably doing a little bit of shaving down of the elevation of that point bar to enhance that that um relief valve effect of of allowing the river to spread out in that direction away from the bend instead of focusing so much energy on the outside of the bend. That would be a benefit. And then uh what could be done is just a simple rebuilding of this um where this bank is eaten away to just recontour this bend and get that line of the bank back. Um and the best way to do that in terms of a fish habitat standpoint is to get some uh wood, get some trees and lay

them in there kind of like a lattice work or it kind of looks like a truss. It's what we call a toewood installation. Um, you could use toe you use toewood or not use toe wood. You could just do this with what we call a cobble toe. But, um, essentially fill it in there and then back fill with with cobble and top soil and take some of the mature willow that's over here on the point bar. that mature willow isn't serving a lot of function in terms of the geomorphology of the river and the and the hydraulics of it. But you could um scoop up some of these um willows and move them across and plop them right into the space behind this new bank line and back fill it with top soil and make sure those willows are planted at just the right elevation. Willows need their root systems to be in the water. But you could basically instantaneously through through mature willow transplanting from one side to the other. You could essentially have it have an instantaneous uh bank there and um and just uh make sure those willows get going and and that should forstall any further um tendency of the river to move outward. Another thing that could be done, this point bar has what we call a cut off channel that you can't see because the vegetation is real thick. But when point bars are working just right, the elevation across here, there is a secondary channel back here through these willows that's actually a lower elevation than the highest elevation of this point bar. And that also serves as as kind of a relief valve where once the river is up at runoff stage and getting higher and higher, then it starts taking water through this secondary channel behind the point bar. And that's a real benefit because if water is flowing behind the point bar here, you're taking pressure off of that outside bend um when that happens. So some adjustment of the elevation where you know that that

that cut off channel could take could potentially take water at a little bit lower flow than it does now to enhance that that cut off channel effect. But then when the river drops back down to base flows, it's still dropping into um the you know the active channel that we're seeing here. And so that cut off channel is is not carrying water all the time. It's just a serving that relief valve function, you know, at high runoff.

And so um I am not a river engineer and I am not a designer of these types of projects, but I've been involved in a lot of projects and I know I'm very familiar with these approaches. And so what it would involve is this is a relatively small project. This is not a heavy-handed type of a thing. This would be in the tens of thousands of dollars, not in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. And it would be a relatively small, you know, you you could accomplish this whole thing with a mini excavator um accessing the river off of the trail right into here since we're rebuilding this bank right here. That would be your access with a mini excavator. do those adjustments and uh and and back out and reclaim as you go with the mini excavator. Pretty simple, straightforward project. I know there there has been some discussion and more heavy-handed, more engineered solutions of moving the entire river over um you know that that I guess that's that's many hundreds of thousands of dollars to do that and and lots of engineering work and and I what we're suggesting is a more bio-engineered approach that's a little softer touch um to do first and see if that gets us all comfortable with the status of that bend there without saying I mean you know maybe a more heavily engineered approach is necessary down the line in the future but um that this doesn't preclude that as a future possible approach it's just a lighter touch first step you know to to to get that bend a little more stabilized um so I think that's the concept and and so grant what we're um wanting to do is to get Grant County Learning by doing which I'm also a member of that group. But, you know, to take this on as one of their projects and to um seek some grant funding opportunities and and um get a firm under contract that does this type

of work and and um accomplish that project. Did I cover everything? Do you have any questions about that? I like it for the fish habitat and what it's going to do to keep the quality of the river there. Keeping the water out a safe way. Do we need to look at increasing the elevation of the rip wrap right on that corner where you know

I mean the the the rip wrap that was placed some time ago, you know, it's a pretty high terrace. It's it's it's pretty robust. type, you know, it's when the river has moved, it's not really the that that angular void filled rip wrap is not the material that's moving. It's more the the less protected top soil bench that's that's closer to the river's edge than than that rip the rip wrap is kind of set back from the river's edge as you see it here. And especially in this area, it's a pretty it's quite a bit of elevation of that stuff that the trail is on top of. And so I, you know, I wouldn't see that as being necessary.

Good. So the only potential concern that I just wanted to point out that we discussed there on the site was just the visibility of the window of the river from that that corner that you're seeing right there. Um Sarah, can you drop that little guy right there on the corner? The little guy icon there. Oh. Oh. So, it's more like street view version. Sorry, I thought Sarah was driving. Oh, that's all right. I figured out what you're talking about. Right there on that blue line. There you go. Oh, yeah. That's that's uh that's just kind of drag that over. Yeah.

So, the only thing I just want to make sure that, you know, let you guys make a decision on is, you know, there's the discussion about planting willows along that corner. You know, we talked about some other options of of stabilizing that bank as well, but just want to make sure that that's bring that to your attention that if you if we were to replant willows and use that stabilizing method, you would be blocking that window. Um, which I think has value to it. Um, and uh, John, I think you had talked about a couple other options for stabilizing that bank that could not may not include willows. Yeah. And what um, what were we talking about? Oh, there. And so this is incidental to that. Sorry. This street view, this shows that so this is at really high flow and you can see that cut off channel working. You can see water behind that point bar. That's doing exactly what we were talking about there.

Um, see

what other Oh, it's So, you know, you could do some what they call a log revetment where you basically armor the bank with some log installations. Um, the problem is everything that's not living willow is going to be a downgrade for the river. It's not it's you know the the there is no substitute for a living riverbank um to stabilize things. I you know I will say that willows can live with a haircut. Um so it's it's it's not an entire you know once those willows are established in there it doesn't have to be a wall like like like you see more of kind of off to the right. It it can you know be a little more trimmed. So, you know, that's that's shorter than a person um and still be performing the functions that we want them to.

How about arctic willows? So, smaller. They use them in planters and the ones that I've seen usually don't grow more than about 3 feet tall. I don't know if they would be good enough or not.

There are species around that don't grow very tall. Um the the best thing to do is to pull from the material we have right there. That's going to be the most cost effective. And there may be some of those species. I'm not a willow expert. Willows are surprisingly hard to identify down to the species and and know which is which. I mean, we're probably looking at three or four different species of willow in this picture alone. Um, but that's what the contractor who does those type these types of projects would be able, you know, if that's one of the if that's within the scope of work, you know, that's what we would be looking for.

I like the willows. I think if you go to Safeway to see nature, you're living in the wrong place, right? There's enough to take a look seeation. Well, and it's the stabilization of that corner, right? It's pretty it's huge. That's a takes a lot of pressure, a lot of water. It's a I like the willow. You can also see these cottonwood the the the new cottonwoods are hidden behind this pine tree, but you can see the the cottonwood stand that I was talking about. The street I didn't realize the street view photo is so good. That's a really good look like it's high flow, too. That's nice. It's about as it gets.

Yeah.

Um could you do cottonwoods instead of willows? What's What's the benefit of each? Um, cottonwoods are going it's going to be I mean idea in a perfect world you would do both and you would have room to do both. Um, in just it's maximally functioning riparian um vegetation community like the Frasier would have if it had all the room to work with. You would have willows first. Willows are what naturally occur right next to the water with the root systems down in the water and cottonwood are like traditionally or or their natural place to occur is like one level above that or one level behind that. You know, these cottonwoods are are growing there, but they they're they're raised in elevation a bit off of the river more than the bench over here that we're talking about. So, you would be planting cottonwoods closer to the river than where they would naturally be found. I guess is

the answer to that question. Yeah. And it might be too wet for them. Yeah. To do well. Willows need their feet in water and and cottonwoods are a little bit less. So they need a little more elevation away from the water if that makes sense. Yeah. You know, I think we could move some willows in there. Maybe not just a giant scoop and mass of them. They are individual plants until they really take off. So that there's a, you know, couple two or three feet between them. Sooner or later, they're going to want to fill in, but yeah, get some gaps in there so you can That's what it takes to stabilize that bank. Keep that fish habitat. You had to you wanted to come up.

Thank you. Yeah.

Really good. So Andy Miller Frasier and um planning commission and president of the upper Colorado wershed environment team and as you guys know we've brought this project forward on an engineering basis to project to get engineering funded for this riverbend both to the fund and to the windap environmental fund and we were turned down by windap environmental fund because northern didn't didn't believe that that board again to remind us three members from UC wet and three members from Northern and the point of the fund is to improve water quality at Windy Gap Reservoir and our friends from Northern felt that that um disaster preparedness is not not a valid use of the fund. So in other words, our point was if there were a disaster here, a flood, then it would carry a lot of debris down into Windy Gap Reservoir. So they didn't buy that argument. OLRT asked that we work with the town and and look at the river this whole re river reach which I'm really glad you guys are doing. My concern with this plan which is probably a really good one is that I really hope that you might have ask Merrick your town engineer to look at this because um our approach was to spend $160,000 on an engineering plan and the reason for that is this is a FEMA flood plane. Um, the reason for that is that we've got Safeway on the other side of this bank and things will probably hold up just fine. This plan will probably work okay, but we're seeing a lot of probably get blown out of the water nationwide out of Well, that's probably not a good term, but but we could have a flood event in the Frasier Valley. We've got a string of instream ponds and the Lions Club pond aren't instream, but they're they're in the flood plane. Um, we could have a disaster here that could take this bank out. And this bank is doing well. John's exactly right. The cottonwoods are growing at the base of it. A lot of things are going really

well with this. And this would probably improve everything. But at least I would I would suggest that you ask Merrick to look at this and say, do we need to do a more robust engineering review of this of this project? If Safeway wasn't on the other side of this bank and we were out in the middle of the wilderness, we wouldn't be having this conversation. But last I knew Safeway was 60% of our town income. So we can't afford to have that store have four feet of water in it and we lose that income source for however long it would take to get the store back again. So So I just a simple review from Merrick just to make sure that you guys are on the right right track and that we were we were not correct in need saying that we needed a a really robust engineering study done of this. So we we may be way off base. I don't know. So at least it's it's at least worth that I think. And then the only other thing with the street view, we continue to try and get a way for the snowcats to get through here and continue on up the Frasier River Trail. And if you go out there in the winter time, the snowcats are now going around changes the changes shopping center. It's really hard for a user to figure out what the heck to do here. And John's exactly right. We we originally thought maybe we could get a little more width between the driveway and the river, but we can't. And that that that stand of willows and that little piece of river is so key. But maybe we could look at at narrowing that street to a oneway or one way at a time. It can't be one way because it's the only way back there. But it could be one way at a time. Maybe we could take it's literally two or three feet would get the six feet that we need to get the snow cap through there in the winter time. Because the other thing you have to do is take your skis off, walk around the parking lot, get your skis back on again, and take off down the trail again. And there's been a rock in the way of this forever by the gate to the Winter Park uh sanitation, the Winter Park Ranch sanitation um wellhouse over there. So, straighten out that gate situation too to keep vehicles from getting back there

because we need to. But anyway, let's look hard at how we can't make this trail just be continuous through this stretch. So, thanks. Yeah, thanks Andy. Forward. Any questions for John or Andy or discussion? This sounds maybe a little weird, but does Safeway have any responsibility in any of this? I mean, how did they get to build that close to the river? In the first place, the good old days.

I mean, the good old days, wasn't there like, hey, if this ever happens, I mean, is there anything from Safeway that are they hold any responsibility? There's there's good there's good funding available for this type of work. There's good nonprofits here in the county that can do this type of work and that's that's what they want to bring back is following the direction from the board. Uh look at this more seriously. There's some grants that we can apply for as well that are here in the county. Um and like John said, it's not anything more than really a min, right? Um doing a lot of this work. Um, so not have a bigger picture like if it goes crazy like blood floods or something you know

I'm sure it affects their insurance to some degree maybe but uh right just curious. Yeah. So there's no action item but um is it essentially that we want to we need to move ahead people move forward and see if we can apply for grants for it. Yeah absolutely. Yeah, I think just a motion. If you feel comfortable with um John's approach and want to move in that direction, um then we'll continue to pursue looking at this. You guys,

we think um Andy's idea of having Eric take a look at it, especially in that bend, is a good idea to see if we do need to come up somehow or do something else to help protect Safeway. Would you like to see if there's a see a plan like the more specified plan that comes back um for this project and have Merrick review that makes sense? Yeah. Until the time comes. The is a profession. Well, the the only thing is that you know John's saying this is a couple 10,000 20,000 of a project. It might cost that much just for Eric to review it. There you go. Yeah. America.

I I practice in the water and and wastewater utility sector, but I do have experience with river restoration and river stabilization. The light touch aspect is certainly one approach and and the min and the bank stabilization. The next level of engineering approach would be taking a hard look at what you'd call rock veins, which is um an angled kind of rock pier out into the the stream flow on that outside bank. What what you'd call the the outside bank of your bend where you have the most friction, the most erosion happening. You put these rock veins in. It's not as light a touch, but it moves the stress points of the water flow further away from the bank. It actually deposits sediment on that outside bank. So, you're building bank up and it's cutting away at the point bar, which would be the inside of the bend. Um, so those features would naturally stabilize the bank and move the the stress points of the water flow further away from the bank so that you'd naturally eat into the point bar, move your your bend away from your critical infrastructure. Again, an engineered solution. Boulders in the river, potentially a cross vein. You've seen those up and down the river. um that would hold the the center of flow in the river to its current path instead of letting it migrate towards the bank. Um so all those features could be implemented. Again, light touch versus a little bit heavy touch, but um I think on a longer term basis, those those rock veins would would serve um the purpose that we want for a longer period of time. And ultimately those end up getting buried in sediment and you have a bank on that

side um and you never see them again. But they also stay permanently buried and protect in um really high flow condition. So they're on river left as you're coming down the river. River left. Yes. They'd be on the outside bend outside of outside bank of the bend but not all the way to the edge because it has a gap. Is that correct? Um not sure. Um like it's not like a dam on the on the on the far bank. It water can still flow over it.

Yes. It's it's angled so that at the bank it's a taller rock um boulder structure and then it's it's basically a finger of rocks out into the river uh sloped down so that at the middle of the river the water's running over the rocks but it's it's creating eddies behind and in front um to collect sediment and move uh the thwag which is the deepest part of the channel move that further away from the bank. So, how much does an operation like that ballpark kind of

If you're just looking at one specific bend in the river, usually you'll want to look upstream and downstream a particular distance so that you know if you do something in one point, it affects upstream and downstream. Um, the kind of study that you might be looking at there might be a 20 or $25,000 study just to come up with here's all the concepts that we could look at and the size of these rock veins or J hooks. Sometimes they'll put a little hook on the end of them and they call it a J hook. Um, certainly worth considering. Um I'm not in our surface water group, but I can I can bring some of those people up to um you know.

So when we talk about funding and grants, is there if we went to the bigger picture, is there funding available or is that's a pipe dream? I I would defer there's a lot more funding for instruction funding from OLRT and Windy Gap as Andy was referencing previously for I believe a similar approach to what was just described. Is that correct Andy? Sure.

Yeah. Um, and we have not been successful thus far in getting in and getting funding for this particular project with that approach from the local entities that work in this area.

I I'd like to disclose that first I'm on the learning by doing project subcommittee. Uh secondly, I I do think that uh you know, for the $25,000, we can probably complete that first approach. And if we find that's inadequate, it seems like the uh the corner is healing itself to a degree. Maybe it doesn't have the full capacity to get to where it needs to be and it needs some assistance, but I think it's worth uh trying the the the less evasive approach first. I think it it will have less impact on our fishery, you know, for a shorter duration of time. I I think just overall it's probably worth trying that approach first and then we know there's other alternatives if if that doesn't work and we know we can pursue these other more evasive approaches.

Sounds good to me. Sames. Great. Okay. Thank you, Johnny. Oh, that's just nothing. All right. Do you want to make a motion? I'd like to make a motion. The um I go with the the uh light touch approach, I guess, is what we'll call it and and then see where we stand after we monitor that. And Sounds good. Is there a second? Second. Any further discussion? All in favor? I I All opposed and abstain. That's you. Yep. Okay.

Thank you. All right. Thanks. Uh thanks everybody. Okay. Next up is the Frasier Connectivity Study. Uh Michael and Paul.

Uh thank you, Mayor. Uh Michael Brack, Fraser Town Manager. Um this Frasier connectivity study is something we've been looking at for um a couple years now and really this proposal is just really looking to address the interests that have t that have risen from the development and the the reszoning of our downtown areas off the Riverwalk district uh off Clayton Court uh between Clayton Court areas uh the Victoria Village areas St. Louis landing areas um with the with the construction of Edna Tucker Way uh through St. Louis landing that's going to provide the connectivity from County Road 8 to Park Avenue. Um, and really looking at uh how we can promote uh better traffic connectivity off of Highway 40, specifically east of Highway 40, uh where traffic impacts for people coming out count on County Road 8 onto Highway 40, coming on from Park Avenue onto Highway 40 have some better traffic circulation options. Um so, um I'll hand it to Paul here to kind of show what options we're looking at. And this is just looking just to kick off some study from our traffic engineer that we're going to be working with on this.

So, mayor, board of trustees, we also have uh Jeff Plank with Kimley Horn online. Uh if you have any questions about the proposal, but the proposal from Kimley Horn is to perform a connectivity study downtown like uh Michael mentioned around the Sun River Drive area and Witi to South Wedi. uh as you mentioned it's the potential to open possible public rights of way to improve traffic circulation to and from core residential and commercial areas within the downtown area. It has been discussed in the past I think over the last two years we've talked about this. Um staff recommends proceeding with the proposal to study the ability to open a rideway along Sun River and to evaluate the possible connection of Witi to South Wedi for traffic circulation. Um this the Witi to South Wedi would be opening up that kind of if you go if you drive down south Wedi you dead end at the dirt road. It would be the dirt road to the treatment plant. Problem is is oni drive there's a driveway in the way. So it would require some rideaway acquisition. But the idea is to let Kimley Horn take a look at that their traffic team uh Jeff and his uh um other associates there to look at what we can do there. We've kind of looked at Sun River a lot. It's really narrow. I don't think uh when they look at it, Sun River is really only wide enough for one way. So, it would have to be kind of southbound only. Whereas, if we did a Wedi to South Wedi, I envision that being a full two-way access point from Tarmaggan all the way to County Road 804. Paul,

could you tell me where South Wedi is? Uh the light at Safeway, turn left at Holiday Inn. Uhhuh. And then go across the river that's southi back to like if you went to the daycare you'd be on selfi. Yeah. Meadow. Ohi meadows parking lot. Yeah. Yeah. That's okay. So it would be the main road before you'd make a left into the parking lot. It's the road that dead ends kind of right on the town line between Frasier and so that little stretch like the LZ we call the loaded landing zone when you're going up to Witi like that like little dirt path that's called southi that you get past the dirt section where you get back to the pave that's south witi

oh where it bends then it turns to southi as it goes up past like tarmaggan then no come come to the light at safeway instead of instead of turning right into Safeway, turn left and then follow the left. That's South. Okay, I got it. So, it'd be connecting south to the first switch back on repeat. Sure. I never knew that was called Southapi. Thank you. So, Jeff, did you have anything to add from That's where the water I went there.

No, I think you summarized it well, Paul. Um there are some constraints and we got to get the you know survey and property limits and right away and you know see what we can do to you know feasibly you know make additional through connectivity. Um we do feel like that with PD would be the optimal connection or through connectivity obviously with the power lines there and the existing residents. We're going to have to you know look at it closer and see what we can do. Yeah. And just during this process, we'll be notifying um everyone who's living in any areas along Sun River Drive and the South Wedi connection to Witi uh just to notify those homeowners of of what is being looked at. So then when we actually have uh some preliminary work done on this and some recommendations from Kinley Horn um to invite them to those conversations to uh evaluate impacts versus traffic enhancements and circulation those different those trade-offs essentially.

And what about between Quail and Wedi Meadows? Um we can we can add that to the scope if you'd like to. Um, we originally looked at that and saw that, you know, maybe it's worth looking at. You do have high density parking along that entire stretch that goes for several hundreds of feet. Yeah. On both. I think it's a good access point, I guess. So, we we removed that from the scope, but if the board No. Yeah, we can always revisit that, too.

Okay. Thanks. Yeah, we had concerns with the the head and parking that if you make that public and you have cars going through there at 25 miles per hour, that would be a concern. You know, you would want to have speed bumps considered raised crosswalk. Um but even then, you know, ideally you would not want that parking fronting with that being a true public street.

Yeah. With this too, we're also going to be evaluating any type of drainage issues that could be arising from it. How to better address traffic bombing through these different areas and uh and if any of these areas are being used for snow storage, how we can help offset those impacts.

So, has there been any discussion of including um the intersection of County Road 8 and Highway 40 in this? is it seems like these are residential areas that are going to be repurposed for a heavier use. And and to me, it seems like the logical mitigation for what could be all of County Road 8 going through a neighborhood is a stoplight at the highway that would give people an option to make a left turn onto the highway and not go through neighborhoods. You know, I I I think I don't think doing one in isolation. I think you have to do both uh to provide more options and diffuse all that

uh traffic flow. I would just add to that that uh so we already paid MAD to do a traffic study at that intersection. C dot said it wasn't needed at this time and then C dot with our highway 40 project also does not show that the highway that a traffic light is needed county road 8 at this time. I don't think it wouldn't happen in the future, but right now, um,

well, I was I guess I wasn't looking at it as being justified by that the case of need on that side. I was thinking of what we're going to do to those neighborhoods if we send every car down to the stoplight in front of Safeway through those neighborhoods. Um, that putting a stoplight there would give people a legitimate way onto the highway and not going through those residential streets. I I I mean, I live on Eisenhower. I know we're overt trafficked on that road. And I I I see the same things happening on these residential streets over there. And and by having a traffic light, I I think it gives a legitimate option to not cut through the neighborhoods and get to this stoplight. That makes sense.

I think we can continue to look at that. I know in our meetings with C DOT, there's a certain threshold that has to be met before they will authorize a traffic signal. And I don't think we're there for 30 years in their study. Is that with St. Louis landing? So I I I think there's some hoops we can try and jump through with C dot to maybe accomplish that um with the their funding where they're already going to be doing the project. Um they're fa I think it's phase two of the project retouches that area but um I'm just they haven't been very uh receptive to a traffic light there in the last two meetings. Yeah. I I just want to mitigate the impacts to those. I think most people would like stuff that's just not

I think their concern is backing traffic up farther up into Tavern than we already have. So they're looking at a lot of things. Yeah. So I know we're I don't know when our next meeting with C dot is, but Well, keep in mind phase one stops at Clayton Avenue. It's phase two that goes further north. So that things could still change. There's a lot of lot to change. and they asked for a lot of advocacy too from from Frasier and uh so we've been able to provide a lot of input uh

on what we think would make sense for these different things and I think uh we've always tried to promote a stopwatch at county 8 uh just to better provide for that southern access from counter 8 to highway 40 and if if that's the board's desire is I could have Kim we uh redo the proposal to include looking at that intersection if that's what you would like. But the proposal now is for these two.

I think we could spend the money on 20 mile per hour speed limit signs and if people have to go slower through the neighborhoods, if it's going to take them the same amount of time to wait on to get on Highway 40 and make a lefthand turn and they could go faster, then they will. So, I think just that by slowing the keeping those lower speed limits through those residential neighborhoods as with Oldtown, I think are we 20 or 25? It's 35 over the tracks, but it's 20 on the roads. Okay. I'm just [laughter] Yeah, you got to keep your speed up for that hill. No good.

Keep your speed up for that hill. So in all right I think would we like to proceed with the proposal or Yeah. I'm down with the South Pedi now that I know. Yeah. I thought that was called Mercy Drive. Yeah. I think we're obligated to at least do the study and the research to find out what's going to take and what we can do and and if nothing else for for safety if something does happen and things go bad on 40 and there's a big storm and they can't get up the metage hill. Yeah. Then people are going to need a way to get No, we we definitely need some redundancy. I was just worried about the impacts and and

yeah I mean my first place here was on lower wedi in the '9s and I remember walking the south wedi a h 100 times and being like why is this not a road I think I mean that was 30 years ago currently not a road because it's currently we just it's owned by wedi meadows and we have an easement to get to the right treatment plant it's not a right of way as in traffic Yeah. Gotcha. Good study. Okay. I like to take [clears throat] any public comment on this. Do we need um I mean we can take public comment if the board would like. Um I mean this is just to approve the study. It's not to make any decisions.

No decision. It's just a study to see if even feasible to do either one. Right. Anybody out there Jones to comment? Okay. Good. [laughter] Okay. Do we need a motion? We do. I'll make a motion to approve the um razor connectivity study. Second. Any further discussion? All in favor? I go everybody. Any opposed? Okay, great. Thanks. Thank you. Thank you, Jeff. All right, next up. Welcome. Pleasure.

Yes. Thank you. Thank you. [clears throat] Next up, we have resolution 2026 0105 approving an intergovernmental agreement with the town of Winter Park regarding building division services. Garrett and James Shocki.

Good evening, mayor and board. Garrett Scott, Frasier Town Planner. Uh we also have uh James Shocki on the Zoom call this evening. Uh Winter Park community development director. Um so the matter before you is resolution 2026105 which would approve a new uh IGA with the town of Winter Park for building division services. So I don't have a formal presentation but just wanted to talk through this briefly. Uh Frasier and Winter Park have had a shared building division for approximately 20 years. Uh Graanby was part of that shared building division uh in 2010. Um, as part of that IGA, any party is allowed to terminate and and leave that shared building division. Uh, Granby chose to do that uh October of last year and um so they will no longer be part of our shared building division as of the end of this month. Um, so because Graanby is leaving, we simply need a new IGA just between Frasier and the town of Winter Park uh to to maintain our current relationship and our current uh building division services. Um, our town attorney has reviewed the IGA that is before you all and has no concerns given that the terms remain the same except for the removal of Graanby from the agreement. Um, and this IGA was brought to Winter Parks Town Council just yesterday and I believe it was approved but James can uh confirm that. Um, so therefore staff recommends that uh the board approved this IGA this evening. Uh, but certainly we stand for any questions you may all have. Pretty straightforward.

Pretty straightforward. Make a motion. Yeah. No brainer 4K. Did James have any speech that he wanted to add? Does Does James want to add anything before we um hi James Shaki, community development director for Winter Park. Uh no, I don't have anything to to add. I think Garrett did a good job. Okay. I'll make a motion to approve resolution 2026105, the intergovernmental agreement of the downward park for our building division services. I'll second it. Any further discussion? All in favor? I.

Any opposed? All right. Thanks. Thank you, board. And thank you, James. Thank you, guys. Quick. Thank you. Um, okay. Resolution 2026 0104 contract with Big Valley Construction for the preconstruction design of the public works facility. Paul,

mayor, board of trustees. Good evening. Uh the matter before you tonight is resolution 2026104 authorizing the town manager to enter into a contract with Big Valley Construction that includes milestones for pre-construction design of the new public works facility in order to arrive at a guaranteed maximum price and a subsequent milestone for construction of the public works facility per the submitted fees that is subject to townboard approval of construction financing. Previously, resolution 2025103 approved proceeding to 100% design and issuance of a request for qualifications to bring on a construction manager general contractor to ensure constructibility of final plans under a guaranteed maximum price arrangement. So based on the open RF bid process, Big Valley Construction has submitted the best qualified bid to complete the work out of six submitts and three short list interviews. Um are there any questions? We also have Big Valley representation in the audience. if there's any questions there.

I just have a question like who gets to decide that's the best bid. So, it was town staff, Merrick staff, and our architect D2C staff who reviewed the proposals and the fees and Okay. called references. Thank you. I have a question. Um on the section where they were able to cut 2 million to bring it more in line with the budget that we need eliminating the HVAC dust collector. So what where is that collector? Is it um what tell me where that HVAC

that would be in the uh there's a room set aside for construction. So for example, when street staff is building the um the art easels and things for um events so that it would be it would collect dust so that they're cutting. Uh one of the things is to not plum in an entire HVAC dust collection system and just use a portable system up until the point we grow to the size that we would need something that's constantly. So that system is connected to each individual piece of equipment. The port one you bring over has a hood and you're cutting and it's bringing some outside.

So it's not a a whole building. It ties into different pieces of equipment. Interesting. So long as we've got something to protect the air quality for our staff. Yeah. So I mean whatever that looks like. Currently currently they do everything outside. So this would give them a space to do it inside with a portable dust collection system that they would move to the piece of equipment they were using at the time. Okay. All right. Because that was significant. Yeah. And there's there's a lot of things that you know, again, the price the original price we had from Big Valley was at 30% plans. Uh there's we're coming up on the DD plans I think are due at the end of February and then there'll be another estimate and then we go to the 90% plans and then we get the guaranteed maximum price.

Okay. But the idea here is for Big Valley to work with the architects to make sure everything they're doing on paper and in computer is actually buildable and constructable. So that's where um guys who would be in the field actually trying to build something can say, "Hey, that's not going to work. We won't be able to do that." We actually toured a facility where it was supposed to have a good example is of something that hopefully the GMG this CMGC would catch is there was supposed to be a forklift passage through a building through a space between two fleet maintenances and they built just a standard door and so a forklift doesn't fit through. They worked around it. It actually worked out better for them in the end for what they needed. But those are the kind of things we're trying to avoid. something that you you build and you don't have to retrofit something or

um we lose we lose some sort of functionality because it can't be built. But this this gets us to the guaranteed maximum price. Um and the guaranteed maximum price is required before we can pursue coops to fund the building. That's one of the requirements is having that guaranteed maximum price.

Any more questions or questions for Big Valley? I'd like to make a resolution to approve 2026104 contract with Big Valley for the con for the pre-construction design of the public works facility. A second. Any further discussion? All in favor? I thank you.

I'd like just to say thank you to Paul and his crew and the Merrick and and all these guys. uh did a terrific job doing really intense interviews, going and visit visiting multiple public works facilities, figuring out what they did right, what they did wrong, and just demonstrating a really good process. Um that's that's kudos to Paul. That's that's kudos to Greg. Uh great job. I just thought it was a really really well demonstrated process to really vet who we really want to work with for these very expensive projects. Um so congrats to to Big Valley Construction. Um but uh you know I think to some degree they were put through the ringer and everybody was and they had some really good options to choose from and it was not an easy decision. Yeah.

So uh just just want to say thanks to Paul and the team for for really just demonstrating a good a good process for selecting this general contractor. Big Valley does good work. I think about that new fire station that area it's beautiful. Turned out great. This is a foundational block to the future of Frasier. Yeah, it absolutely is. Thanks. All righty. Public works 2025 year end selling fall. Great.

All right. Mayor Board of Trustees would like to just run through uh just a brief um couple slides to show what we did in um this last year on our CIP projects. Um the PowerPoint So this is the capital projects recap. Um so some of the projects we did, we had Clayton Court, so we had the water main construction, which is the project we did over the winter at the start of 2025. So, um I don't ever want to do that again to be honest, trying to install deep wets in, uh January and February. Uh a lot of utilities coordination, so a lot of work uh with the MPI, Excel, uh the streetscape design and bid. We had the sidewalks on Norren and Eisenhower, and then uh street uh select locations, for example, in front of Camber and some work over by the rec center. We had the town hall improvements, which are finally finished as of last week. uh church renovation with some punch list items left. Southipedi cover culvert rehab elk ranch road interconnect valve and the quail water main loop. So we'll start with Clayton Court. As you can see here in the orange uh we installed a new 6-in raw raw water man. Um and the reason for doing this was to give Frasier uh Valley Arts the most buildable area they could possibly have. Uh previously the water line went uh continued down and went up the northern property line or the left side of the screen and that would have left a large easement that they wouldn't have been able to build on and then they would have still had the what we were requesting for the trail access there between Stum and Fraser Valley for the Arts. Um and then in yellow are the new

8 inch water manes that we installed. Uh, we didn't add the ad alternate to bring the water line up there past Denver Health to fix that line. I believe I've come to the board for approval on two emergency repairs on that line in my three years here. Uh, so it needed to be fixed and we also were able to straighten out some of the weird uh, jogs and bends that were in that water line from the way it was installed previously. And we were able to upsize it from a 6 inch to an 8 inch to better serve what we were trying to do in downtown. That's great.

Um, this is the current uh design for the utilities. We have agreements with Excel. We've actually just at the last meeting uh approved uh that contract with them for for them to install that new gas main. I believe it's a 4 inch um new main that will run from Clayton Avenue um all the way up to Doc Susie. And then there was a meeting today between Merrick and um MPI on running new three-phase power. So, this would all be buried within Frasier Avenue and Clayton Court. Uh, and then it would also provide new three-phase to um Denver Health and then a new three-phase for the wellhouse. Currently, the wellhouse is supplied by three-phase power that is uh coming off of the power pole next to Sharkies. So, it's currently at the meter is at Sharkies. It is then buried, goes under Highway 40, runs along kind of where you guys have, some of you have seen the centrum site and then gets to our wellhouse. So, this is alleviate all of that underground line. We could abandon that line in place um and then just have a new brief phase there. Um it doesn't show up well on that, but there will be the the the fast chargers will be at the end of Clayton Avenue up near where um the trail starts for the Fraser River Trail. and what used to be the walkthrough history park. Uh Clayton Court Streetscape. Uh we had the design bid completed in 25. We've gone to contract with we've awarded a contract to Phase Concrete working on finalizing the contract for signatures. The anticipated start date is mid May to June. Uh that is to allow Excel to get in and put their gas main in in April. Um then we would start that. And then you can see the sidewalk that um Out West installed in front of Strom. And that's what the sidewalks will look like um throughout uh Clayton Court.

So the extension down Clay Clayton Court, is that strong? Is that something that's going to be will happen as it develops as we get more buildings in down there or is that So everything currently is going to be constructed except the sidewalk at the JNL property. Um we do not haven't acquired that rightway yet. Okay. We're still in negotiations with that property owner, but we have um we've acquired the right we already had the rightway in front of Stro. We've acquired the pro the rightway in front of EAL and Clayton and Frasier Downtown LLC is starting the process to get us the um needed easements there.

Okay. So, we'll have the sidewalk and then it'll tie into the street at the same time. Is the sidewalk going to be exposed on either side for people to drive over and cars to Well, it's pulling out of the existing It's a thickened sidewalk to it's designed to be driven over those points because ultimately we had hoped that we would know what was going in, but we don't. Everything is stalled after Stum at this point and uh we needed to get this project finished. It's been started for two years now. So, okay. And funding, we still have that. Yeah, we still have funding. We improved in the budget to to finish this project. Yeah.

Uh the contract is a 90day substantial completion and then 120 days final. So it'll be done should be done by September, October. Okay.

Barring any crazy late season weather. Uh the Northern Sidewatch projects, which obviously everybody was well aware of as it came down right here through Oldtown, um we were able to add the piece there. You could see it at the top right. We were able to finally connect um the sidewalk between the shell station and the EMS that had been dirt all those years in front of Fraser Beer Co. So, we were able to get that done. Um we were able to get uh redo that drainage spot right there at uh Leonard and Eisenhower. Um did run into a few hiccups with some valves and the current situation there at as you leave the school, the cross pan. Um and so the sheriff is having to park on the sidewalk to keep people from using the sidewalk to not hit that Van. So, we we'll be looking at maybe moving the VPAN or shallowing that VPAN to prevent some of that and then looking at some ballards, but need to not affect streets crew being able to access the attachments in the alley. But, um, as you can see, we did uh that was the on the left is the existing entry there between Camber and the winery. And then on the right is the new work that was done with a new uh standard uh apron, driveway apron on that sidewalk. uh town hall improvements. We now have the ADA compliant ramp and entrance. Uh the snowshedding roof gable as a bonus. We were able to abate some speestous that was up there. Um there's the new handrail. There was some new paving. And as you saw as you came in tonight, we have the canopy that was installed and finished last Wednesday. Um on the church renovation, I'm not sure how many people have been in there um and seen that, but despite our couple of punch list items, it looks pretty good. Uh, I think the cabinets look amazing. Um, we just got to get a dishwasher in there. Um, but there were structural roof upgrades to bring it to current code. Uh, that was done um, prior to us being able to do this, the code change. So, we we had that uh, done. We have a code compliant water service entrances, a

custodial closet, storage area, uh, a new ADA bathroom, and a new entrance foyer. Uh, the Coil Drive water loop. Um board members may have gotten some complaints um as this project was going. The whole purpose of this project was prior to this project, the only way to work on anything over there was to shut up shut down all of Tarmagan to not have water and all of Wedi Mas. So we we put in a new um a new cross there near the blue zone water blue zone water treatment plant um that allows us to uh be able to shut some water off in certain areas. up there at Fox Lane, there'll be a fire hydrant installed. Uh the contractor was uh not able to get to that this season, so the plan is they will come back next season, and if they decide not to come back, we already own all the parts and materials so that we can hire somebody else to do it. Um we were unable to acquire an easement along uh that property line right there that you see uh in time for the project to happen. Um and so as we're continuing to look at phase two, we uh there's some thoughts of going up the existing sanitary easement on the um east side of that corner property uh to make that work better. Uh but you can see the crews there with um the shoring boxes. You can see the dewatering hose coming out there at the bottom of the of the screen to make sure we're keeping that dry. We then had the South Wedi culvert. Um so if you could see the culvert there, most people aren't going to be able to see that, but there's no bottom in those culverts.

Mhm. Um, Ced DOT had red flagged or had medium flagged this prior to my start and in 23 my first year they red flagged this and said we had to fix it. Um, they gave us time with our short building season to move into design in 24 and the solution was to do a uh a temporary fix uh not knowing what we want to do in that area uh for connectivity to the light and sort of this weird jog that you have there at South Wedi. So, we went with grouting to fill the voids. Uh so you can see where they um they damned up um on the top left they're blocking off flow into that pipe so they can add the the grout in the in the holes in the pipe and in the back. On the bottom we used a concrete mat. So they staple they fix that mat above where the erosion is and then they water it down and it hardens into concrete. So it ends up looking like a concrete uh pipe at the bottom.

And they grouted and re- rip wrapped the uh inlet side. And you can see the new how the mat is working there in the top right and in the bottom right. Interesting.

And then the Elk Ranch Road PRV project. Uh so this is located right at Oxbow and Elk Ranch Road. And the purpose was to provide an emergency uh a way for emergency flow to happen between the south blue water zone which is in the Mville water right and the north blue zone which is in the town's historic water right. And this allows us to separate the systems. But in an emergency, the valve will open and allow water to flow. Um so say there was a a fire or we lost pressure in the north blue zone, water can flow from the south blue zone. And then the bottom right you have the PRV that controls the separation between blue zone and the yellow zone which is the higher higher elevation. Um so there you can see kind of what we put in the ground. Um the big lead item on this project was the the bottom right there that uh that blue item there took a was the long lead item. But they did a good job. They got out there. You can see the shoring boxes. Um and they got in and they got out. I believe it was a twoe job, Greg. So they were they got they installed that, got everything, got the road put together in two weeks.

That's awesome. And that is the end of the projects we did this year. So we've been looking for that for many years. Any questions? Okay. Appreciate it. Thank you so much. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Well, the getting good pressure from blowing. So, take care. Yeah, those are awesome. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Good to see you. Thank you all.

Bye. recap. Good.

Uh, good evening, mayor and board. Garrett Scott, town planner. Uh, so this is a bit of a rehash of a presentation that was given to the planning commission in November. Uh but staff just thought it'd be a good idea to provide the board with uh similar information and also present um the full you know 2025 calendar uh year worth of data uh as it relates to activities in the planning department. So, uh, this presentation will touch on building permits, land use applications, the status of various approved projects, amendments that staff made to our land development code this year, uh, the discussion and engagement that we had related to the update of our comprehensive plan, and then a brief look ahead to staff's work plan for 2026. So, starting off with building permits, uh, in total in 2025, uh, there were 89 building permits processed in the town of Frraasier. Uh, a majority of those were for residential uses, uh, 13 for commercial, and a a very small number, only six, uh, were for completely new construction projects. The vast majority of these permits were for things like re- roofs or additions or exterior remodels of existing structures. Um, so this is actually a pretty big deviation from previous years where in 2024 that ratio was 292 new construction permits versus 47 alterations. And in 2023 we actually had more new construction permits at 44 as compared to 36 alterations or additions. So, I'll provide some additional thoughts on that later, but just kind of an interesting trend uh looking back at the past couple years. Uh in terms of total permit volume, uh we did exceed the past two years um by a good amount and you can see how that

varied throughout um the calendar year um for 2023, 24, and 25. This graph shows permit valuation by month and the total figures for uh 23, 24, and 25 uh there on the right. So 2025 did represent a pretty significant year in terms of permitted uh valuation of structures um now under construction in Frraasier. Uh the main things that are driving that this year are the Spring Hill Suites Hotel in rendevous um phase one of St. Lewis Landing, specifically building C and E, which are now under construction. Um, as well as actually the interior remodel of Safeway. Uh, that was a pretty significant uh permit valuation project that didn't even come through uh the planning office. It just went straight to uh building permit. Um, just some additional thoughts, you know. So, of those six new construction permits, three of them are those significant projects that I mentioned. Uh, St. Louisis Landing building C and E and the Spring Hill Suites Hotel. So this year or in 2025, we only had three um new single family residential units permitted um in Frraasier, which I think is maybe somewhat anom anomalous and I just have a couple thoughts on that. Um one, I think it is kind of indicative of a transition out of maybe the COVID boom period in building. Um certainly home prices in the Frasier Valley are correlated strongly with those in in the Front Range and home prices have kind of declined to stagnated over the past couple years. So that could be a reason why residential construction is somewhat leveling off. But another thing I'll also add is that um phase two of the Mill Avenue apartments did break ground this year. They receive building permits uh through Grand County. Even though

they are directly adjacent to Frraasier, they're served by our municipal water and wastewater system. And that represents 60 new permitted residential units that you could argue are, you know, in Frraasier, but not really. So um you know I think the bigger picture is that there is still a lot of um approved residential projects in Frraasier that if given market market uh if market conditions you know do improve in terms of home pricing or or things like that certainly there could be a lot of movement uh this year and and years beyond. So speaking to land use uh applications that we received this year uh we had a total of 15 um uh slight majority of those um were administrative you know non-public hearing non board approval applications. Um seven were completely administrative. Three applications were sketch plans that were brought to the planning commission for discussion. And then there were five other applications that we received this year that will ultimately make their way through the planning commission and board. Some have, others are still under review um at this time. So for the board's information, um the planning commission reviewed four different sketch plans this past year. They included uh Centrum, which is the next plan development on the southern end of Clayton Court in our Riverwalk zone district. uh two sketch plans in the Grand Park area uh which include West Mountain filing 2 as well as planning area 2W.3 and then a sketch plan for Meer lot one which is the kind of um quarter circle wedge-shaped lot um in between County Road 72, the railroad and u El Creek Drive in terms of land use applications that you all that the board saw this year.

There were four. Uh starting off with the Spring Hill Suites Hotel that was approved in January. Grand Park West Mountain filing one which was also approved in January. And then um a site plan and final plat for the ascent uh which is the redevelopment of the ski broker exports property and a new residential building adjacent to it. and then the final plat for the village at grand park bing. So next speaking to major projects uh starting with projects that were completed or or nearly completed last year uh the middle park health Frasier Medical Center uh officially open to the public last June which is uh really exciting and a great amenity uh certainly for you know those living or visiting the Frasier Valley. and Strong Town Homes. Uh the first development on Clayton Court proper in the Riverwalk zone district. Uh certificates of occupancy were issued for the four town home units late last year. And the commercial building shown here up at the front of the street is nearing completion and should receive a a CO soon. Next, speaking to projects that are under construction, um the Market Street buildings, a lot of progress was made on them this past year and construction activity is continuing. Uh the core and shell of these buildings are estimated to be complete um early this year um by April. Um I'll also note that these pictures are from November. So, if you've driven by, you know, this site or the next ones, it's easy to see um some of the progress that's been made in our um unseasonably warm conditions this winter, but silver lining is that they're, you know, favorable construction conditions. Certainly,

it's great. It's looking good.

Yeah. And the Spring Hill Suites Hotel is next. Um, again, a lot a lot of progress made on on this property since just November with it now um basically topping out and reaching its final elevation, I believe, and them installing windows. That is um estimated to be complete in about a year from now. And then St. Louis phase one approved by you all the board in July of 24. Um, again, good good progress made even just since this picture in November. And then one other project that did get kicked off late last year after our presentation to the planning commission is uh Elk Creek condos 4W.1 in Grand Park. Um the uh the developer executed a development improvements agreement with the town in December that allows for the water and wastewater infrastructure for this site to be installed. So uh they've been proceeding with that through the again the favorable weather conditions this winter. Then speaking to projects that have gone through the board approval process and are in kind of the known pipeline, if you will, of development um in in the future. Um starting with Riverview Condos. This is just off Highway 40 adjacent to the um fly fishing shop and Grand Valley flooring store. Uh this development was actually approved by the board um almost 6 years ago in April of 2020. Uh however, the plat was recorded soon after approval and the property owner has uh maintained an active development improvements agreement with the town. So, you know, planning staff would allow a development proposal that's consistent with that recorded plat um to proceed if if that is uh what happens. Um another approved project that's just awaiting construction is the Ascent Condominiums, which was approved by the board in April of last year. staff is working with the applicant to finalize

their plat and site plan. And this development is also served by um some of the same infrastructure as Grand Park 4W.1 which is um under construction right now. Hey Garrett, so I forget what's the time frame once they're once a project's approved like that. What is their time frame for having to get started and show significant completion or how's that work? Yeah, great question. Um so in the case of the ascent uh because this isn't a standard zone district in the town, it's not in our PD districts. Um the way it was processed is that it has to have its site plan finalized and its plat recorded within one year.

Um so for the ascent, you know, the applicant is coming up pretty close to that given that it was approved last April, but they still have some time to finalize those details. um they are able to request an extension um by the board if if necessary. Um and generally speaking, you know, after a plat is recorded, you know, there must be an approved site plan in place in order for an applicant to pull a building permit and proceed with construction of the property. Uh but typically that happens quickly. If if you have an approved site plan, typically you go to pull that building permit um fairly soon. Um, backing up to El Creek condos just as an example because um, developments in our plan development zones are processed slightly differently in terms of that duration of approval. So, um, in this case, the final plat and FPDP for this development were approved back in July of 2023. Um, town staff worked with the applicant to record the FPDP in October of 2024. So a little bit more than a year later

um and the developer was allowed to build infrastructure under that development improvements agreement. The next step is recording plats for these lots. And because the way this was platted as multiple lots to be built in a phased manner, our code currently allows for a five-year period for the property owner to record those plats. So, because this was approved in July of 2023, uh those plats could be recorded as late as 2028. Okay. Right. Thank you. And then after that, building permits can be pulled and Okay. the property can be built on. All right.

Uh a couple other projects in the pipeline uh that that have gone through the board approval process. West Mountain finally won uh in Grand Park. Um, this will actually come back to the board for reapproval early this year. Um, as the applicant has made some additional tweaks and modifications that trigger the need for an additional public hearing. Um, so this while it's approved, there are some some minor changes that require it to come back to the board. So, you all will see this um soon. Uh, Alpenlow, which is planning area 2W in Grand Park, is also um a project that has been approved by has just laid dormant um for the time being. And then last but not least, the village at Grand Park, which is uh planning area 1WA, which was um FPDP was approved by the board in November of 2024 and the final plat approved uh April of last year. and staff is working with the applicant to finalize and record that FPDP uh here soon, likely the first quarter of this year. So certainly a lot of projects in the pipeline, a lot of um residential units that could be built uh in the future uh and and other uses as well.

You go back to that last slide. Sure. It's got the village. Um, what's what's the piece that's got the L foot L parking to the right of the wetlands? Yeah. What is that? And has that been approved? This has been approved as part of the FPDP. Um, conceptually speaking, I should say. Um, a lot of the building footprints here as part of this FPDP are more conceptual in nature. We don't have final building elevations or interior floor plans.

Uh, but this was approved for a um 90 room hotel lodging use on this property. Um certainly if a development proposal materializes for this site or any of the other lots in the village filing 3 um any commercial or lodging use would require approval by the board.

So right at this point it's if it wasn't there that would still be in the area that's under litigation with our conser potentially for the conservation. I mean, Garrett, can you can you I believe that is in an approved planning area on the 2005 PDD. So, that's that's okay. And that's outside the areas that we're we'll be negotiating for a conservation easement. Okay. So, that's an approved area. The the hotel, those lots just next to the rec center. Um those are also an approved planning areas as well. Yeah. I guess just to better orient ourselves, this is Highway 40 along the south side. So, so north is off to the right here. Um, and this is Grand Park Drive.

We got the rec center and then the strip is the rideway in the wetlands with the dotted lines. And then to the right is the Alban condos that have been approved. So there will be buildings that basically go right up to that potential hotel that have all been approved between direct center parking lot. No. No. Just the I don't know if you can read the words up in the top right, but that's

that's all Alen Glow condos. Yeah. Well, that doesn't Oh, gotcha. Okay. So, other than those, so this is taking me to another question. Um, so Alpen Glow Condo is that spot that's in an approved already approved zone, but do we have to consider any other applications in the land that's under question for the conservation? Um, my answer is no. And our legal team has strong backing with that. So, in the event that an application is submitted, and I've communicated this to Garrett as well, uh, if an application is submitted for areas that do contemplate a conservation easement, then they will receive a letter from our attorney stating why we will not be processing that application,

right? Until conservation easement, the boundaries and the inclusions are agreed or otherwise ruled on by Judge hope. Okay. I think just to close the loop on this and clarify this dashed line here is the Leland Creek flood plane

and then this hatched area wetlands associated with the creek and everything around this is shown as open space. So, um, you know, t town town staff worked with Grand Park very extensively and and our planning commission and board as well through 2024 to arrive at this FPDP that um is in staff's opinion wholly consistent with the 2005 Grand Park PDD and consistent with the areas to be placed in the conservation easement. Great. Thank you.

Yes, great discussion. Um, so town staff did make uh five different uh code amendments to chapter 19, our land development code this year. Uh, those included uh a few different items related to affordable housing, starting with uh allowing accessory dwelling units in our lowdensity single family zone districts um as a uh permitted use by right instead of a conditional use. Um, in July of last year, we tweaked our existing density bonus provisions to make them more attractive and also expanded them into the business and highdensity multif family zone districts. Uh, we added some some light short-term rental regulations for properties that have uh an accessory dwelling unit. That was approved in August. Um, last November, um, the board approved a prohibition on non-functional turf in compliance with a, uh, state law. And just last December, we approved some, um, use regulations pertaining to vehicle sales and outdoor storage. Um at near the end of last year in October, staff also had some discussion with the planning commission around a fasttrack review process that um the town needs to implement to remain compliant for um and eligible for additional funding through Proposition 123 with the state. So that's something that staff will look to implement um early this year and it will come to the board uh in the first half of this year. And we will also continue a discussion around potential modifications to uh residential uses being allowed in our business zone district which uh we kind of initiated near the end of last year. Um staff will be picking that back up early this year.

[snorts] Um in terms of activities related to the comprehensive plan update, uh town staff and our consultant partners uh did quite a few things last year. Um in total 11 different meetings with you all, our planning commission and our DDA board were held in 2025 as well as two open houses. um one in March and another in late July that were held at the recreation center and and had pretty good attendance and uh engagement with the public. Um we will have a uh final draft of the comprehensive plan uh available uh and reviewed by the planning commission next Wednesday um and a possible recommendation of adoption and um could bring it to the board as soon as uh this February if we stay on that schedule. Can you get that to us in the board? Can you get that to us in the board packet before the weekend?

Yes, because it's a lot of pages. Yes, it is. So, I I will add that, you know, we the planning commission reviewed the plan in November. There was good feedback from from the planning commission and some some good feedback from the public public as well through that online survey we had. um substantially the plan is obviously not changing but staff will be sure to highlight what has changed from November right and and talk through it and um certainly if the planning commission wants additional time to review it recognizing that um you'll have the plan that you know the Friday before the planning commission meeting that's great that's always an option but yeah I mean if that's if we're going to adopt it we should be able to read it yes agreed

thank you um and I I think regardless of whether the planning commission chooses to advance it to the board next Wednesday or spend an additional month and continue that public hearing, uh staff will anticipate a workshop with the board in February to review the comprehensive plan with this body given that um it was just the planning commission who saw it in November and certainly want you you all to have um eyes on it as well and time to discuss with staff.

Right. [snorts] Lastly, just uh a look ahead to a big laundry list of items to look forward to in 2026. Um, a lot of the ones uh kind of in the first half of this list are a bit more concrete. Again, things like the comprehensive plan uh adoption early this year, uh that fasttrack review process for affordable housing development that I mentioned. Um before April of this year, we will be adopting uh the state's wildfire resiliency code. Um and we'll also make some conforming amendments to our landscaping code. Uh so look forward to that early this year. Um and we'll have discussions and uh a code amendment around um school land dedication and fee and loo um public works facility uh which was just discussed earlier this meeting. Uh we've received the kind of site plan application for that. So that will be making its way through the planning commission and board approval process early this year. And then kind of the second half of this list is kind of a a you know unorganized um list of of items that um subject to you know the planning commission and board identifying priorities for staff. Various items identified through the comprehensive plan process as kind of um things that staff should tackle first. So, more affordable housing strategies, um possible changes to our development fee schedule, uh review processes, things like architectural design standards, um incentivizing, you know, uh activation of the Frasier River in the Riverwalk zone district, um discussion around um downtown parking and um you know, activating the the Frasier mobility hub uh transit hub by the rail station. So, lots of things to look forward to um

next year. I have a question about the wildfire resiliency. Are we looking at trying to make ours a little bit more stronger than the state or are we just going to adopt the state?

Yeah. So I think in terms of at least the structure hardening aspect of the code because that's a building code regulation in discussion with you know town of Winter Park staff at the building division. Um at this time at least we're looking to just adopt the model code as it relates to structures. But in terms of landscaping, things like defensible space and non-combustible non-combustible, you know, vegetation and materials around structures. Um, that's something that uh would live under our landscaping regulations in our land development code. And um I I do believe that there's an opportunity to be more stringent than the state requirement if the planning commission and board would like to pursue that. add that to your list there for exam. Throw that on there.

But yeah, just another dot. Yeah. Well, this is meant to be encompassed by this bullet here. Um but but yes,

so another thing that I think we ought to consider um and I don't know. I'm seeing the dead density by these developers is now we have setbacks that appear like they're maybe five feet. So they're 10 feet between houses. And I think the Palisad fire was evidence that it wasn't just landscaping, all that that contributed to it. But the heat of the building next door could ignite the building on right next door just because it was so close. And maybe we want to look at setbacks, an overall community.

Well, the only place we have small setbacks is in the business district, right? No. I mean, Rhonda Winter Park, I mean, these houses are there very close, you know, next to me is like five feet away. And that's, you know, and you're going to see that in in Grand Park, too. Because they they make more money if they get them closer together, right? Something to look at, I'm sure.

Any other comments? Well, sprinkle them all. Well, that's not that's not going to help. I think that's there's a wildfire the fences. They go right up to the house. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate you. Very informative. Yeah. All right. Updates. Start with the one on the on the agenda. Drainage concerns response. Paul,

mayor, board of trustees, just wanted to come tonight to give an update on some of the drainage concerns that were raised, I believe, at the 1st December uh meeting by the public regarding town projects. Um contractors uh that work for the town are required are required to acquire all permits needed to complete a project. Uh so section 1.1.1 of our public works construction contract. Um, it's the general. It includes mobilization, demobilization, bonds and insurance, thirdparty materials testing, uh, subcontractor erosion and sediment control, traffic control, and construction dewatering. Um, so the town does not issue those permits. Uh, the dewatering and the erosion control, uh, storm water pollution prevention plans or SWIPS are issued by CDPHE. So they submit a plan to CDPHE who approves on their dewatering, their erosion control, their storm water pollution prevention plans and they sign off on that. Um town staff does, you know, observe those. Um over the last two years, we have had members of the public come in and complain. Um one attempt, one time they were complaining about water that was being drained out of what's called a Baker tank, which is where all the water gets pumped into a tank and it has several baffled and filters. the water coming out. Uh the outfall end is clean. So they were seeing that pipe. Another one a pipe had a a discharge hose had come disconnected from the sediment bag. Uh so there have been some issues where but were there within 2 three hours and everything is rectified. Um some examples that you'll see around on the projects of erosion and sediment control would be silt fencing. So that's the black fencing that's on stakes that you'd see around a property. Uh sometimes more more common around here is the erosion control logs. So, the coconut 8 in coconut um logs about 10 ft long. You see them out on St. Louis landing where town would put snow. You see it on a lot of projects. The sediment bags, which are the big black bags that fill up and water's coming out of them, but it's catching sediment on

the inside. And the last is the Baker deatering tanks. I don't know if you guys can remember back to 2023 during the sewer project. There was the big blue tank out here on Leonard um that sat along the railroad tracks. That's a Baker tank. Um just some examples of some of the projects we've done. So since 2020 from 2023 to 2025, the town has paid $543,000 in erosion control and dewatering uh devices on our projects. um some of the smaller ones. So the Elk Ranch Road interconnect, the one we showed right there at Elk Ranch and uh Oxbow, uh we paid $37,000 for dewatering into that sediment bag and the um the erosion control logs to make sure water wasn't getting into um El Creek at that point. Uh but on the big projects, for example, the St. less landing utilities that went in uh spring through the fall of 2025. Um we've spent $153,000 on erosion control and dewatering. Uh Lions Ponds bathrooms um we spent $44,000. Um buyers avenue water man. Um as the Katies know, there was a lot of work going on there. We spent $126,000 on that tank that sat on Leonard. And then on the sewer main replacement, we spent $165,000. So, the town is very concerned about erosion and sediment making it into the creeks and the rivers. Um, so I just wanted to bring this update showing that we have been doing our due diligence and those permits are required by our contracts and they're issued and enforced by the state. So,

how'd that study go that Adam was working on with you in terms of studying the drainage patterns all around? So, we have it all. We we're trying to um create the work orders now for street staff to do the easy work. open up pipes, open up inlets, clean clean things. So, we're working through that um to kind of push through that. I know that um Andy's group UC Wet along with um our um biologists are going to be presenting I think on the 21st uh just to try and get public engagement and notification of what you're doing. You don't change your oil right next to the drainage pan uh things like that. But, okay. Thank you.

Any other questions? Again, if any any member of the board has concerns about erosion, please let me know and myself or Brad will be out there and be on those contractors. But if you drive down quail, I don't know if you can see it, but uh there's some stored materials and everything along the river is surrounded by sil fence at this point. Um I was worried about snow and runoff, but obviously doesn't look like it's So is that a new well that's getting installed right across the creek there by the um off of that quail? You're on the Frasier River Trail. The pile of dirt and rock. Yeah, out there digging and just on the other side of the currently. Well, you know, a month ago.

That was the water line, the quail loop. Oh, gotcha. Okay. That's leftover stored material we're holding over the winter for Okay. completing the project of the fire hydrant on Fox that currently So, that's that water line loop. Y. All right. How many pumps were in that trench? Uh, I would say TFW ran three or four point wells. They they came they they were very concerned. They ran some large pumps, I would imagine. But, uh, the big the big deatering was on buyers and the sewer project. It was just um there was a lot of water. I think it was a high groundwater year. But, uh, Clayton Court, Clayton Court, I think we paid

Clayton Court, we negotiated a lump sum of 18,000. We asked the contractor if they were confident in that. I'm pretty sure the contractor spent 100 grand in dewatering. Wow. Just because the water was high, we knew, you know, so they didn't make that mistake on St. Louis. They got it right. Thank you. I've got a couple things. um crosswalk beacons are now functioning at uh our fisers crosses over. Perfect. So, uh thanks to our street operators team to get that done. Um that's a wonderful thing have back in place and a good safety measure. Um

thank you. We uh I will be out next week along with uh with Peggy and Brian and Sarah be heading down to uh that cast conference. We'll be discussing essentially everything that we want to discuss um related to uh affordable housing, childc care challenges. I think even Transit was on there as well and be looking touring some um some different types uh a modular manufacturing facility as well as a 3D printing awesome uh housing facility uh manufacturing facility there to see what the the latest trends are for constructing affordable housing. So uh that'll be Wednesday through Friday so we'll be out of pocket. Um

wonderful. We need small a small industry here so that we don't have to rely completely on sales tax is planning planning commissions is yeah because that's the 28th right Wednesday. Yep. So you guys should still have a quorum I believe. Yeah. Um uh just want to check to um those of you on Yeah. Because Joyy's not because Joy's out. Unless we can appoint a new member before that meeting I think was closing on a house at least he was at the title company the other day. Yeah, but he bought a place in I think condos. So he's still in Frasier.

Joy. Joy. Well, Joy McCoy, but then the two of us will be in Salida sixus two. So four, right? Sounds like you're somebody zooming. [laughter]

As long as all four go up. And Bob, has he sold his place yet? Because Bob was going to be moving. Did you know that? He understand Bob. Oh, did he changed his mind? Love you. I hope he stays. Just went to a condo instead. Garrett, can you touch space with those four planning commissioners and confirm their attendance for that meeting? I have said that I need just now. Hey there. Perfect. He's on it. We love this guy. Um maybe we'll great staff and uh just want to make sure that

all the representatives on the go. Have you guys gotten any meeting invites for the meetings for this year? We're having some issues out and I just want to confirm. Yeah. Like you spent sent them all, right? For the GC meetings. Yeah. Did you get one, Brian? Have you received them? I thought so. Didn't you send out like the whole year's worth or something? I sent out I sent out the one for MFC. Okay. They say it's the same February. Whatever it is, the second month. Yeah. Same schedule. So, you don't have it either. No, I guess. Same schedule. Yeah. Well, let me take a look at that. I don't think they have it. Good.

We're just Yeah. Ever since uh was it Windows 11 upgrade, we've been having some challenges with the We have the wrong calendar up. You know, it was interesting on the Oh, yeah. the article about the breweries. One thing that we haven't really talked to the community about is the how much it would cost us to do that additional work, the millions and millions of dollars, right? 40 million is it to upgrade the plant to to really to be able you say upgrade the plant you mean to add the IP portion of that yeah whatever to make it so we could process add that commercial component I think it's between 15 uh 15 to 20 million to that

that's important it is important and we've information to pass yeah um you know because it's not like oh well it's just this plant you know and you can't handle it and that's a lot of money and That's every person that lives within those districts is going to have kicking a lot of money for Yeah. And I I actually conveyed that too in the interview and I don't think that made it in there. Yeah. I didn't see it in there which is too bad. Um the cost of having to upgrade though, but yeah, it's uh I was reached out to to about that and um yeah. Um yeah, I know it's frustrating and I don't blame them for being frustrated. Well, and it's be okay when they should there should have been parameters from the beginning, but we um the town failed in that. So

yeah, and you know with the new draft permit in hand too, we have much much more stringent requirements than we've had in the past. So they absolutely want to see an I industrial pre-treatment program implemented. Yeah. And with control and monitoring in place um even without you know any violations that we've had in the past just because well the new permit says that too. It does. So they're requiring that make sure that we have that IP program in place and in addition to several other requirements that we're trying to negotiate where it makes sense to maybe look at some things being increased or decreased. Yeah. Interesting. Okay. Good. But working through that process still with the uh the draft permit for the plant. Okay.

So I've got an update. Um, I think you guys are mostly aware that about 2 years ago, maybe longer, I asked for a speed study to be be done through Frasier. Um, it was completed and the report is finalized and they're going to reduce our speed to 30 miles hour. Oh, yay. Uh, through town and 45 well, so it says 30 in Winter Park and Frraasier and 45 miles per hour in between, which I'm assuming is the Grand Park. Wonderful. Great. The like the Grand Park flats like where it's 55 now. It's gonna be 45. Yeah. Yeah. It goes up to it goes 45 to 55

backyard 45 down to I wanted um so trusty Gregory to be here because I think that'll cut down on Jake breaking, but he didn't he didn't show up. So, um but yeah, that's that's big news. Uh it is great news. 30 miles per hour. So, um, I only asked for the study from a specific mile marker that cuts into Winter Park just a little bit on the north end. So, I don't know if they stretched it through the town of Winter Park or if it's just going to go down to 30 there. Um, but u but at least through Frasier it's going to be 30. That's wonderful.

Do you know how how far it will be? When will 30 start? Will that be on? Because I know they have problems. A lot of Conro 8 problems start because of that 55 mph sign is right there and they see it and they accelerate so people can't get out of Conro 8, right? Yeah, I can ask that question. Yeah. Do you think it will be it'll still be 45 at the fire station but then at the other end? I don't know from the fire station on. Yeah, but she's talking north end of town here. Right.

Yeah. Especially since we have a stoplight there. I mean, that could be a good way to help mitigate that, right? Okay. Any other updates? I move to adjourn. Second. Further discussion? All in favor? I I