Board of Commissioners - workshop

Monday, September 14, 2026

The Frankfort Board of Commissioners discussed neighborhood traffic safety concerns, proposed property tax rate reductions, and updates to the downtown master plan and sewer revolving loans.

About this meeting

Government Body
Board of Commissioners
Meeting Type
Board Of Commissioners
Location
Frankfort, KY
Meeting Date
September 14, 2026

Transcript

222 sections

0:18 – 2:30Speaker 3

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I just want to start doing the word session. Today is September 14th. It's 3 p.m. It's 5 to 5 in the morning. Air. Air. Air. Air. Air. Air. Air. Air. Air. Air. Air. Air. Thank you all for being here today. I think I'm probably starting on a piece or a couple. I'm going to tell you how I'm doing that. I'm a four-year therapist, so I'm going to tell you how I'm doing that. But what I'll ask you is that if you come to the podium, stay tuned in, and we give you confidence that's all we'll ask you. I'll give you confidence that you're going to win. So that's what you've read us last night.

2:31Speaker 2

I don't know what it is.

2:33Speaker 3

I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is.

2:36 – 2:47Speaker 2

I don't know what it is. Hello, I'm Tara Bissell.

2:47Speaker 1

I'm here today to express my safety concerns regarding the intersection of Todd and Logan Street in South Frankfort.

2:53 – 7:32Speaker 2

My husband Andy and I opened our bakery, Andy's Artisan Bread, at the corner of Todd and Logan Street in 2022 after success at the farmer's market. We also live right next to the bakery for two years in the beginning of the open. Our business space is tall on the street with large windows. We observe the street and intersection all day, every day. I'm here today because we have experienced two vehicle accidents in this quarter within the last several weeks. Both accidents involved one vehicle driving along Todd Street and one vehicle unloaded crossing over Todd Street. The first accident was very intense. The bakery was open. It was a good day. We all heard the entire thing happen. The metal sound and the injured person shouting. The motorcyclist skidded a long way out of the broken sleigh. Neighbors immediately came out to help whenever they could. When I heard the terrible impact sound again last week, and the neighbors both came out again, it felt like we were starting to have PTSD just reading another accident at this dangerous intersection. We also hear people zooming by, honking their horns at the intersection numerous times a day, which seems to reflect many near accidents in addition to the ones that have happened. The building shakes a little when people zoom by. Our employees can actually feel how fast people are going, and it happens all the time. Regarding the Logan part of the intersection, it is hard to safely turn onto Todd from Logan Street during the day because with cars parked on the street in both directions, visibility of oncoming cars is almost zero. With cars picking up their speeds at 35 miles an hour right along here, it is always felt dangerous to turn or cross, and clearly it is dangerous. I asked my family and employees to go up and around Capitol Avenue instead of turning onto Todd until this occurs. Even after the parking spots were redrawn and people parked perfectly, you still do not see oncoming cars where the spots are full. People should not have to risk their lives simply to get in and out of their cars parked on the street. Many older people have reported that cars soon pass them without slowing as they get into their cars and that makes them very nervous. We have many families with young children living within these blocks of Todd Street, as well as the families who come to the church and to our business. Sometimes children wait for the school bus in front of the bakery. I want all of the cars to stay here to be safe. This corner has been a neighborhood concern for a long time. We have heard from neighbors that over the years, cars have driven up onto the front yards of several houses across the street. I was also told of a fatal accident at this corner that landed in a yard. Before we stop, we will prevent reckless driving in this junction. In the last year, multiple neighbors have read letters of concern. We had a petition sheet started by another neighbor. Customers discussed the safety of this intersection on multiple occasions every day with us at the bakery. Even on the morning of the first accident, we had already had several discussions about what we need to do here. Now we're at the point where people's concern is the highest I've seen it in six years. People are ready to do what it takes to get something changed, and we don't want to wait until worse accidents happen for things to change. According to Strong Towns Movement, streets should prioritize human movement, not automobile movement. Most streets have been designed like roads, optimized for moving cars quickly and efficiently, which makes it dangerous and unpleasant for everyone else. When we flip the priority and design for people first, we get places that are safer, more inviting, and more economically productive. Slower speeds and more crossings contribute to a street that supports human life and interaction. When you do that, even the drivers benefit because the street becomes more predictable and less chaotic. A new four-way stop at Capitol Ave has improved the safety of that corner greatly. This neighborhood is evolving and growing, and perhaps traffic tension is shifting, so we need to address this intersection next. I have noticed that there is a four-way stop on all the other intersections of Logan Street. We need to slow traffic down at this last intersection of Logan Street to protect this part of the neighborhood. I'd also like to point out, this is a special and charming part of town. The beautiful landscaping and architecture of the Capitol attracts visitors to park, walk around, take pictures. Our little bakery and historic building right by the Capitol, the nice green space next to it, has become a draw to locals and visitors. We are so grateful that people enjoy coming to see us here. This part of town should be protected as a treasure it is. We must prioritize a slower speed to protect pedestrians. I don't want our loved ones and visitors to be threatened by dangerous conditions, so it would be appropriate to lift fast to traffic in a busy pedestrian zone. I'm here today to ask city leadership to resolve what we saw with crosswalks at the intersection of Logan and Todd. We will continue to work until we see the situation resolved for our safety. Thank you for your time and conscientiously for taking the safety. Thank you. Thank you.

7:32 – 10:58Speaker 3

Thank you. Thank you. I know we'll probably have other comments on that, but so far, the city is not installed on some of the different sections, but the state does. But we can work our way through some of those things. That's where you can have a look. Thanks. Scott, do you have a question? I'm just wondering, we're here to talk about Bird City, which is in the White Bay. Do you have any other comments you need to do something on? Sure. So, the Tree City Network was established in 2018. It's inspired by Tree City, or the word Tree City that I get as a new word. 28 years or something like that from the city. This is something similar. I would like to invite countries in the Western Hemisphere, because by the way, we had a lot of purposes to have communities across the Hemisphere, part of nature, and even tourism. Merck City, Kentucky, as well as San Francisco, Seattle, and the state, the 16 states, and the state resort program. That's what we're doing. And certainly, I think it's great that you can see science and safety for people, and how it can be created. There's no beneficial knowledge. It's a wonderful way to do it. Well, I'm actually already at Merck City. So, I was in Bern City and trained to work out of Bern City. Also, here in Cullinan. That's when I did make the actions. When we used to be in 15, we did require a medical. We've had a lot of communities involved in here in Bern City. I'm a friend of all of my current clubs. They don't, just the, you know, department, right? The arts and recreation, what's it called? It was West 6th and so on. I don't think this would be a national and regional mechanism created to drive conservation and reputation for hunters and so forth. So, one part of that, the other part that we had to mention on our list of institutions, that's on page three there. That's what the agency, the Constitution, on all of these pages three, they worked to This resolution doesn't have to be exactly like it is in the beginning. It's going to be dropped, reworded, and so forth. I just want to admit that we're involved. If anybody thinks you want back, go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. we can reach about $200 a year. So every year you have to start producing. Yeah, so every five years you have to start producing.

10:59 – 11:30Speaker 3

Obviously, like, two or three years ago, Yeah, that's something we're going to let everyone's head agree on. That's something the city actually can work with. There's pretty much no consideration in the city. But yeah, there's an objection to it. I'd probably say no. I don't know. I mean, I'm looking at the whole picture. I mean, so you're chasing. You're chasing who you are, not who you are.

11:30Speaker 2

That's what I'm trying to say.

11:32 – 20:20Speaker 3

whether you're not ongoing operational costs requirements, or infrastructure investments, things like that. I don't know that we'd be looking to operate, maintain, or be responsible for some justice. That's the resolution. We already meet the requirements. We're really just a $200 application fee, and the rest of the money is going through that fee only. And I think maybe that's even submitted to you. There's three organizations that it's created. It's already committed. Do you have any observations? It's a little difficult. We want to support that. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you very much. I'd like to share with you some forgotten history of ruling Frankfort and Franklin County. In 1785, about 60 Catholic families in Maryland formed the League of Catholic Families, who gradually moved into what is now Kentucky, seeking real religious freedom from their parents, who had recently got a lot of Catholics from holding a public office. The effort was led by Basil Hayden, the head dean of the department. Some journeyed to what is now Nelson County and formed the first Catholic Church in Kentucky. Among them were the Feynman family. the old founding of the street we had met with a great bachelor and a cutthroat friend of mine. I remember that for me, when we arrived in Virginia in 1634, we participated in the first round of the Mass in America and became the personal attorney for Thomas Paul's Underword Baltimore. One of the great-grandchildrens of the French states, who was of the county was young Henry, who was over 100 years old, was the only fully-excited person to hear the history of Frankfurt for the centennial edition of the Frankfurt Roundabout in 1886. In 1785, one of Cuthbert's great-grandchildren, Joseph Finwin, purchased a 400-acre new mouth and fell upon a page of the Kentucky River. 300 of those acres were wasted later on in the building life of the war. Joseph and his three siblings, Robert, William, and Catherine, brought about 40 families from St. Mary's County, Maryland, and settled in forms of Alpona, White Sulfur, and Swan County. Together with their priest, he would be ordained the first Catholic priest ordained in the United States. They petitioned to serve Lord of the Church, which in 1794 became the second Catholic church in Kentucky. Robert, William, and Catherine's husband, Robert Hall, where all the veterans of the Revolutionary War had served the Maryland Sea Service and the North Sea to Lafayette. Later, their children and their laws, including the American Freedmen, started up in 1834, seeing projects in Paris and Frankfurt, which in the buildings outlined the Bible, Seraphim, and the Second Heritage Council, later became the Good Shepherd Catholic Church. When Arndt's brother, Ernst Ludwig, went to England for his first years in the General Hall, were two of the 13 survivors of the massacre of the River Raisin, a deadly sequel in May time for Kentucky troops before 1812. An argumenter became the second wife of Judge Samuel Todd. In closing the morning topic, Judge Todd moved from Virginia to Kentucky in 1811 and served as representative for Gallatin County before moving around 1812. of Frankfort, where he would keep search engines for Frankfort and Woodford, Scott, and Berman families. They moved into a house in a pool at Ballpoint that was built in 1799, in which they occupied a lot of land that covered all of Ballpoint, including the fish trap on it. The bricks used for the house were burned on site, and some were used for the forest trees nearby. Judge Todd's sister, Jane Todd Crawford, was the first person to survive in the very The surgery was accompanied by the anesthetics, where they opened a 12-team valve tumor performed by Dr. Jeffrey McMillan at Danville in 1909, and it's considered the only heart surgery in American medical history. Mark is fathered by a fluent surgeon, Paolo Giordano, with the French fleet of the Lord King of Lafayette, and followed his revolutionary work as an application judge, taught to him in corporate in 1933. Judge Fogg was the first signer in the petition founding the Franklin County Agricultural Society in 1935. Alongside Robert Scott, David Macklin, Joel Scott, Orlando Brown, and Newt Frankfurt's first mayor, Philip Swigert. Monarch is first left in Captain John Alexander Hall. Also, we have a famous, famous scapegoat, Captain Luther Phillips, where he stayed representative for Frederick in 1848. He was part of the group that brought a big load of backup units from Leeds to Frankfurt, brought them dead from the Mexican War, brought them to the war back to Frankfurt, and helped to bring the remains of a man raising a man back to Frankfurt. He was a breeder and the leader of the First Interim in Ferry Fulton, which were the deans of the most famous horses in the Bentonville era. Timber and Longfellow were the first horses to be deputed in the Blythewoods race for them, and which were buried when the Interim stopped from the Whiffer County Port Mall the week before the first Contemporary Derby at the Phoenix Hotel races. And Lexington and Timber would be their cities, the first Contemporary Derby winners. Perhaps most famous story of all, the Dodd House, is that President Lloyd William Henry III said that for a young monarch that went to school in the U.S. Army. Though she refused, the abuser arranged that he buy his clothes. When he won the presidency, he accepted the monarch's invitation and was transferred there to the House of Donald Trump. and had been buried in her backyard for nine years. She purchased a 500-piece building like it was trying to set for the occasion, and President Harrison consented with her destination as a mystery, and her properties marked the occasion. She, of course, died a month later from the Miami award-gathering funeral, the shortest presidency in history. This analysis is covering historical site and document connections. To two U.S. presidents in the American Civilization War of 1812, Kentucky's effective county's growth in judicial history and the stream of American medicine, the nation's growth in Western expansion, and the major stream of founding effective county-civilian institutions, you can ask them to do everything in their power to preserve and protect their stories from poverty. It's a very difficult thing to do in their own cities. Thank you. Mayor, Commissioner, thanks for your time today and allow me to speak. Chief Justice John Roberts wrote the United States Supreme Court. A person does not surrender all fourth amendment protection by venturing into the public sphere. My name is Morgan. I've lived here in Frankfort for roughly 30 years. I went to school here, grew up here, now I raise a family here. I understand that front cameras are not up to date specifically for you, but I believe they should be. I'm asking this board to stop making you stage and decline any renewals and begin removing these cameras from our community as quickly as legally possible. I'd like to preface very strongly that I do. thankfully, and support law enforcement. I understand these cameras can focus locally on stolen vehicles, missing persons, and suspects. However, the usefulness to not be on the test we approve would apply to a power we give government. Traditionally, police investigate first. They develop evidence, identify a suspect, and then investigate that person. Systems like FLOG reverse that relationship entirely. We collect first, we record first, we score first, and we search later. I made a last year Free for Police report, and approximately 1.4 million vehicles were hit. Those were not 1.4 million suspected criminals. They were overwhelmingly ordinary people going to work, taking children to school, going to church, seeing a doctor, or simply driving home. We are building the ability to create a searchable history of innocent people's movements in case that information becomes useful later. I don't believe that is the direction American police should take. These concerns are not hypothetical. Just weeks ago, a Kentucky police officer was arrested after investigations alleged more than 2,000 unauthorized license plate reading searches involving vehicles associated with the mother of his child. Several Kentucky communities have already reconsidered or suspended their interest to flood communities. And at the federal level, Congressman Thomas Massey introduced legislation to prohibit federal funding for support of systems like these, and the City Judiciary Committee has opened an investigation into flood-studded practices and potential misuse.

20:21Speaker 1

It's not a strange concern.

20:23 – 22:03Speaker 3

It is a serious debate about the limits of our government's surveillance. I am also asking Franklin to release the false recent allowable law of the current contract, renewal status, any ALPR policies, required audits, agri-research information, or outside agency access, and any documented misuse. Protecting the active investigations, protect victims, redact what legitimately must be protected. from protecting the investigation and protecting the surveillance system from other scrutiny are not the same thing. Mayor Olsen and Commissioner Mayer, you were both on the board when Frankfort approved the system in 2024. I respectfully ask you to reconsider that decision in light of what we know today. And like I said, there's nothing wrong with changing course when the facts change. That's the leadership. Commissioner Mayer, thank you. You are the only one to vote against this system in 2024, and I'm asking you to stand for our policy again. I am asking every board member of this board to stand before this time. Do not expand these deals. Do not renew them. Remove them from Frankfurt. Because every government covered with your name will someday be inherited by someone we did not choose. And I do not believe driving down a public street in a modern town is super far-sighted and not privacy-intested. Thank you. Thanks. Good afternoon. Thank you for allowing me to speak.

22:03Speaker 2

I'd also like to speak about the intersection of Taunton and Logan. I've lived on the 500 block Logan Street since 1998, so I've seen a lot.

22:13 – 22:24Speaker 3

I first became concerned about the traffic in 2010. I used to walk with my neighbor, and then she was 90 years old and 40, and I held my breath every time she stepped off the curb on Golden Street.

22:25 – 22:49Speaker 1

Because nobody would slow down, so not to use them. I approached a senior commissioner back then, and he bluntly said, it's a state problem. You don't do anything until somebody gets hit. So 16 years gone by, nothing has improved. It's gotten worse. We now just want to figure out neighborhood. It's a real asset, but it's increased the traffic.

22:51 – 23:54Speaker 3

cars and pedestrians. There are more baseballs, there are more joggers, there are more small children walking down the side of the street, and there's the motor speed. In addition, especially in trash areas, you know, trash cans are loaded. You're on the side of the road. You're on the side of the road. You can't see anything when you're going over the open streets of the park until you walk to the intersection. So for all those reasons, and one more, I would love you to assist us in any way you can in this four-way stop signs and crosswalks. Thank you for your time. Oh, thank you. Yes, you're very welcome. I don't know. I don't know if you guys can see it on the screen. It doesn't seem like a problem anymore. Let's get into the podcast.

23:55Speaker 1

One of the great elections, the election that's coming up, and it's a pretty big day for you guys. You guys are going to hold these seats. You're going to have to change. You're going to have to manage for yourself, right?

24:05 – 26:58Speaker 3

So a lot of the people in this room right now are asking for you and your assistance. It seems like there's something that needs to be changed. And I'm sure that some of those things that are changed So I'm just wondering who is responsible for putting the engineers together for these meetings and what is like the, I guess, back and order for their results on the achievement. So like who goes in together and why is it working out differently? And then... I'm just curious, as if you guys know, the importance of today, what this day means. Today is September 14th, and it's three months since our president had disappeared. And we have no idea, or no insight to where he is. Even though I don't show up to work for three months, I almost go up to work for three months. But yeah, so many of them work and pay for people to go down to work in the office. And it just seems like there's a different breed when it comes to accountability and the way that things are handled. Also, I'd like to bring up the fact that we're being on board and there's been a lot of cyber attacks. And so we're technically not affecting our water supplies, our water units, and water strategies. And I was wondering if we had anything in place to, I guess, secure those systems during this time. And if we had anything like that in the city. And if we were doing anything to scale those positions. Because water is very important. And if you think of the Midwest, over there, like me, like Kyle, and all we're going to have, I mean, it kind of seems a little too convenient to me. They don't seem to be happy. And I don't know if that's happening to them at all. And I don't know if it will be official. So that's basically all I wanted. It was just a few words. And it's nice to see the papers ended up very well completed. And hopefully, you guys can make the change for the benefit I actually use it more than others, and it's an initiative that I've seen in the industry myself. We've been doing it typically as part of the outside market together, and I've been getting three months from the tech campaign offer. I haven't even been in a team in any term, which is where I've been enjoying it so much. So is there any reason that there's a holdup on the flight carrier systems being released? I don't think so. I mean, we're ready to discuss it. I mean, I guess that we know a lot of flight carriers, but I don't think there's any reason.

26:59Speaker 1

I don't think there's anything to do against that.

27:02 – 27:35Speaker 3

I mean, we're ready to discuss it. I mean, we're ready to discuss it. I mean, we're ready to discuss it. And they don't have a problem. I'm sure there's some questions you want to discuss here in our meeting. I'm sure there's a lot of things I want to talk to you about. I'm going to talk to his office. I'm going to talk to you guys in his office. I'll talk to you later. That's what I'm saying. I know he's sick. I'm sure he'll come to us later. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Next thing I want to say.

27:46 – 32:23Speaker 1

year, and also to talk about the intersection of Easton and Oak Street, and to follow up on what our neighbors here in the area said about it. And I want to repeat what we've already said, maybe provide a little bit more context in two different ways. First of all, we've been hearing for years that in talking to the city council, we're going to park it at the wrong street because it's a state issue. I just heard Mayor Wilkinson say again to Tara that the city's small tax lines for the state, yes. I would like to bring up what I think might be a couple of relevant ARS statutes regarding this couch window speed limits for state highways. The first one is 189.39. Section 4A says that the Secretary of Transportation determines that any speed limit is greater if any speed limit is greater or less than is reasonable or safe under the conditions bound to exist at any intersection or body being part of a state highway. That Secretary may establish by official order a reasonable or safe speed limit at the location. Of course, this reiterates the claim that it's the state responsibility and state review, not the city's. However, Section 5A of that same IRS statute says that a city or a county may by ordinance establish speed limits within its own jurisdiction. Also, here in Statute 189.233, Regulation of Traffic on State Highways states that the Secretary of Transportation may, by official order, assume the responsibility for regulating traffic and parking on streets accepted as a part of the state highway system and may contract with the city or a 20-city county agency for performance of this function. So I urge you to consider whether indeed this is part of your purview, part of the purview of people who live here in the city of Frankfort to address this issue in conversation jointly with the state. That street, as you guys are sure to know, goes, 420 goes from Capitol Avenue, and he's at left in front of the new Capitol, and he goes all the way out under the parking garage out to the connector. It is the order area for state workers in Newtown, and everybody wants to go home. Everybody wants to go home as fast as they can. But there are also people that were elderly if you went out living on Todd Street. There are customers for Andy's Bakery. Also for my father's business, which is just across the street there on Todd Street. There are families of small children living up and down East Todd Street out there. Their front yards are very close to the sidewalk, which is very small. And there are people flying home. And I want, I urge you all to consider the issue for the safety for members of our community. The other bit of perspective I wanted to provide for you is transcripts from police body cams that I have reviewed in relation to the accident that happened at that intersection involving my father and a motorcyclist on August 19th. Two different police officers in two different conversations acknowledged the dangers of that intersection. I'm just going to read you briefly from the transcripts from those sessions. This was between an officer and the father of the motorcyclist who was involved in that accident on the 19th. This is the interview that happened at the hospital. The father of the motorcyclist said, that's a nasty little intersection right there. The officer, the police officer, said, yeah, it's kind of blind, you know. The father of the motorcycle is responding. The shop owner at his bakery said that he sees an accident or two there. The officer said, well, and the father said, he's probably getting to the point where he needs to stop driving. The other interview was between a witness of this accident and another police officer. The witness said, by the way, this is a very dangerous intersection. The officer acknowledged it is. The witness said, we need a four-way stop here. The officer said, and unfortunately, you know as well as I do that something, I mean, this is serious, but until something more serious happens, they won't look into it. We've asked for stuff. And the witness said, somebody's getting a kill here. He's not going to be alive right now. So I'm going to leave you with a rhetorical question. How serious is the rule to get before we just get fined?

32:24 – 35:32Speaker 3

Thank you. Do you want to say that you were able to sign the agreement? Yeah. Yeah, I'll just say it. And that was the last question. It was the last one we had. Do you think that you were able to say that you were able to sign the agreement? I'm glad I'm here. Lean reduction. We need to restart and do whatever we can. There wasn't a clear-cut quality in the capital funds. I know the effort that the government has to do to re-evaluate that again. And of course, they are aware that the most recent accidents in 31 months I want you to know early this year, James Ballinger, one of the engineers at KYTC, I was in conversation with him about this intersection. Okay, so this early in the year, when you report, you will have to come to me. I will see this one law enforcement. I can speak to that. I have the privilege to do so. One thing I learned in my career after law enforcement, there has to be engineering that takes a look at that and say, well, God, I think a stop sign of police, I think a stop sign could solve that. But from an engineering aspect, is there anything that that, the name, it would cost me if you could get a story coming from, I'm not an engineer, don't confess to me, but I want you to know that I know the state is looking at that. I talked to Judith Ballinger. I am in transportation a lot. I will bring this conversation up again. I have been talking to him on behalf of, I'm not going to speak for all of us, but I would Who cannot say that if it makes it safer, it's not the right thing to do? Am I correct? So I don't want you to think we're doing this on deaf ears, but I do think just a stop sign when we were not real sure after a traffic study is done or an engineering study, we'll look at this. We need to know that it won't cause an effect, but a negative effect somewhere else. A lot of times law enforcement doesn't realize that. And if I know that, as you did now on the engineering side of it, Again, I'm not an engineer, but when I was just a road cop, I really didn't know some type of work. I didn't know if that makes sense. I'm not a senior officer. I didn't know what he was talking about. It's just that I realize sometimes in the emotion, we as law enforcement, we want to help as much as we can. I think that's a quick fix, but I just want to say on behalf of myself and the rest of us, we are looking at I've had to explain it by the perspective that we have. We've got our meeting tonight, talking about it in a supportive way, so that they are aware of it. And we appreciate it all coming in. I think we can all do it. Thank you. Thank you. Can we just hear what this guy is reporting to you? Is that okay?

35:36Speaker 2

So they just need to change some stuff up?

35:38 – 37:34Speaker 3

Yes. I'll say what you're saying now. What's that? OK. That report turned out to be honest. OK. We're going to move on to the second report, which is city change. And it's got some time. I'll give you a few minutes to say. So I think what the mayor said was accurate. We have reached out. I've seen emails that he's reached out to the states. I personally have reached out. We've taken this very seriously. I was forwarded, I believe, six emails from the motorcycle incidents. I forwarded all those in all of our contacts to the states. We need more. So on the same side of this, we are actively pursuing this aggressively, even in these once a week at this point, six motorcycle incidents. My last contact with them was with a new person that I'm trying to listen to. He's really late too. He hasn't received one yet. And he will contact the traffic division to review, talk with Logan, and believe that he can already be on their list. Traffic will use traffic data and current standards to determine their next steps to the Logan County intersection. So it goes back to what the mayor and commissioners have said. They've been using traffic data to get in there and do studies. And we're just trying to push that. We do hear the community. concern today, Mr. Chairman? I feel you, Mr. Chairman, that one week, if you're not using it, if you're not using it, I know that you're not saying it's fun. So I think a lot of what I'm saying is it's very dangerous for you to use it, and maybe some people don't use That's where I actually live. I'm in the intersection. I've been talking to a lot of people. I'm just thinking.

37:35 – 38:13Speaker 2

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I just want to follow up with, I appreciate the transparency that's been provided. And this is, and I've been able to speak about this today. You know, I think it's also worth, I think we all know here, we understand how attractive setting goes. Sometimes that can be a process. So I'm just in a fair way so that we can be innovative to get something done. In the meantime, to really slow down this, these actions are happening back to back. I don't know what that solution is. I just do this work saying, you know, can we explore other avenues while we wait for those things to get back to kind of improvise and move on.

38:16 – 39:28Speaker 2

OK. Just a quick comment on the Todd and Wilmington intersection. All the comments are made. Everyone's now gone, but I want to thank them for coming in and talking to us. And also, just reaching out via email and phone calls. I think somebody made a good point about trash cans on Friday or lingering trash cans in the way of pedestrians and cars not being able to see. I actually did a walk audit for the project between her and us working on for the city, and I brought three kids with me from Chapel Avenue downtown to Murray and back. And we had about four different obstacles on the north side of the sidewalk. We had trash cans. We had a road work sign on the middle of the sidewalk. We had to go into the road to go around all of these things. We even had a shop on the corner of Logan and Todd that was parked on the sidewalk moving furniture out. So I think people just need to be aware that those do also hinder visuals, like driving harder and like walking harder. So just to also put that out there. It's another safety issue.

39:31 – 40:02Speaker 3

Thank you. That's okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And Fred, I don't want to put him out now, because there's a whole front page for anybody else letting up.

40:02Speaker 2

This is a little loose. It's a two-person talk. Thank you for letting me out. Thank you for letting me out.

40:08Speaker 3

I appreciate it.

40:09Speaker 2

I appreciate it. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. I appreciate it.

40:18 – 42:19Speaker 3

I appreciate it. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. So, I start off with the budget. The original budget for season one, which I'll show you after the kids came back, was $9,190,843,400. We're currently predicted, due to building as well, cost $9,594,391 to build. That's what's good. That's what I heard is, I expect there's going to be a few more little change orders to add to that. But right now, if we don't have any more change orders, we'll be $249,500. We're not making any money. The timeline was in construction. I don't know how y'all walked through it. There were several rooms that were just big with releases. We decided that we had to just run the best I could on them, finish those off for future use. So we made some changes to where we were going to finish those rooms off, and we don't necessarily And right now, we're going to use the first two words, and I've got them in fact today, but that's what we're going to do. We're going to use the first two words, and we're going to use the first two words, and we're going to use the first two words, and we're going to use the first two words, We're probably going to have a lot of new friends that are in town to bring that back. But currently, that's where we're at. We're trying to get them to the door. We're going to cut in mid-January. We're going to work with the lawyer and talk them into some food. We'll get food. We'll get some food. We'll get some food, of course. Maybe also food. We're going to try to get them to get a new food. We're going to try to get food. I don't have the exact date, but as we get closer, I'll give you an offer. We'll get some food. God bless you all.

42:23 – 42:59Speaker 2

And of course, it's really exciting to go to these schools. I don't have a question, but I sure am excited to see the completion of this. It's really nice to be able to get a tour, of course. So thank you for that. But just, like, you did not even tell me from the outside. I was like, oh, it's kind of weird. That's been intentional a little bit. But I just think it's been absolutely amazing to see the completion of Station One. And also, don't change orders or something. I don't know. Commissioner Rich was always like, you don't want those, but I want the two that are also under budget. So just thank you for getting us in a group. And congratulations to all of us there.

42:59 – 43:17Speaker 3

Thank you. Any other questions? Commissioner Maynard, we had the great tour. It wasn't quite where it is right now, but very present. Obviously, it had been working for the city a long time. It was well needed. But it's different than what it is right now.

43:18Speaker 1

But looking forward to it.

43:22 – 43:53Speaker 3

I want to see the poll. I want to see the poll. I want to see the poll. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Thank you.

43:54Speaker 3

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

44:00 – 50:06Speaker 1

Thank you. Thank you. All right, so I have been asked to talk about bus shelters, bus stops for shelters. So just an overview, we have 129 stops total and 129, 26 have shelters, 10 have benches. There are two styles of bus shelters. I just wanted to show you an example of both. So the one is a can't-leave-out one with the garbage can next to it, kind of obvious. And then the other one is what we would call enclosed, so that it has more walls. And then we also do have benches. And we use benches for two reasons. The first would be the pad is large enough that later on when we get more bus shelters, we move more bus shelters there. This is H&B Circles. That's a great example of that. And then the second would be because the location does not support a large enough bus pad to be able to have a shelter, just benches. It's a little way to fit there. So how do we determine the bus shelter location? So number one is ridership data. So on board of all of our buses, our drivers throughout the day are telling us every single time that a person gets onto that vehicle, and that is a GPS location associated with it. So we are able to always see our passenger data. So if the sound is used often, then we're going to, of course, look at the possibility of putting a stop there or a bus shelter or a bench. A safety request. Is a stop location safe for AA accessibility or standing passengers? So if it's a safety and it's unsafe, then we're going to do our very best to update and upgrade that into either a shelter or a bench. Driver request. Is the location difficult for the passenger to pick up or drop off? If the drivers are reporting, hey, it's taking us an extra 45 seconds to pick up this passenger, if they could do a bus stop pad here to be able to assist us, could that be another location that we would look into? Location upgrade availability. Availability. Does the location have anything that's hindering it from being upgraded? We talked about that in our last meeting where there's times where there might be a sleeping time on the other side of it, so the topography just doesn't allow us to, but if it does, then we want to know that. And then if there's passenger requests, we put out surveys every other year, passenger security requests, where they would like the bus shelters to be. We already do have a grant in place. We're still waiting. It was already signed for us to be able to apply for it. We did apply for it. So we are waiting to know if we're getting funding for 11 more bus shelters. If we do get that funding for the 11 bus shelters, five of those shelters will be located on the home street corridor. That's part of our grant compliance, as you know. They're doing all that wonderful work there. So we'll have a lot of bus paths that will be going in. for the contract, and we'll be putting bus shelters at those locations. We also would like to have one at Goodwill and Arrowhead Court. That's for safety. Currently, we have a stop that's right off of Versailles Drive, which is unsafe. We want to be able to turn in to Goodwill and then drop off people there as opposed to dropping them off on 127, so that's a safety issue. Allen Way and John Davis Drive is another example of a safety. If we're dropping off at what would be called a coal stop, if we're dropping off at the coal stop, there's no ADA accessibility for that wheelchair and pager. There's a drop off. There's no way for them to be able to gain access to the other side of the street. So we want to update that for them to give them better accessibility. So I've been telling the children that is because of ridership, we have a lot of KSU students in that area. A lot of KSU students. In fact, our east bus, the first two rounds is KSU students, which is amazing, but we want to give them a nice bus shelter to wait at at that location. HMD Circle, that has been requested by DriverRequest because we have a lot of wheelchair accessibility needs there. We already did those two benches there, so that's an upgrade. Riverbend Road is a passenger request. We do have two benches there currently, so it will be an easy upgrade to put a shelter there. And then Crow River West, we need to have a replacement, and I'll just show you that in the next slide. So this is the bus shelter condition in use. As you see, we actually have three bus shelters right now that are currently sitting on our lot due to vandalism. We've had shelters that are just kicked out. We need to talk to insurance and get those fixed. We have graffiti in some of them. The one at the bottom is Grover West UTC. How many of those panels have been smashed? So obviously that needs to be replaced. The bench picture is actually, we used to have two benches at that location, and one of them was burned to the ground. That's at Montreal's, that's at the Yale's apartments. So just what I would like to do is to upgrade the type of shelters that we have. So here's a great example of that. I believe the newly designed bus shelters need to be steel walled instead of the glass panels. These shelters, we can get them in either a camera lever style, which is our picture, or we can do two full walls. Obviously, we need to want, with the metal, you need to have the side that the driver is seeing first. It needs to only be a partial wall because they need to see the passengers that are within that shelter. This design will protect the passengers from rain and snow, but not hinder the sight and distance for the drivers and other vehicles. Are there any other questions? I'll open it up.

50:06Speaker 3

I love this. I love the picture. I mean, is there a cable that goes out? Do you know something we can't take out? Yeah.

50:18 – 50:40Speaker 1

Well, and unfortunately, I guess fortunately or unfortunately, I'm kind of known on Facebook as they will tell you, the past years will tell you, if Jennifer stays and you're not responding, if Jennifer just stays there. And unfortunately, that's what we have to do for a little bit until we can get a better replacement that we're not going to have to continually go back to insurance to get something fixed. That's, you know, it's going to be a fixer-scratcher to the future, so hopefully.

50:41 – 50:54Speaker 3

Of course, it is what it is. I mean, I think we need to move to a system where if there is going to be bandwidth, if you scrape data by logic, we can tell if the data is right. And if the data is out, that's .

51:01Speaker 2

With the replacements, like as you've shown, they would have benches for sitting.

51:07Speaker 1

They can. They can have this type of a bench. They can have a full bench. They can have leading benches. Whatever is preferred, they can have it.

51:16 – 51:41Speaker 2

I think, personally, I would just, would love to have a bench, like, patient there. Because I know people have asked, you know, it's like, well, in a building, is that always helpful? I think, personally, sitting down when I've heard this, people want benches. And I know I've sent email, I don't think the cast want this, although we, you know, are really hard to hamper service growth by independent staying, just sitting in the grass.

51:42Speaker 1

So I don't know if... How many other stops we have?

51:46Speaker 2

I mean, we have a ton of stops. 129.

51:52Speaker 3

And we're only 26 years and two inches.

51:54 – 52:59Speaker 1

So I guess in that corner, part of it is because it's a very busy section. And you've got vehicles. We've already had a lot of safety down at Wyndham section on your own feet. Pedestrians are also getting hit in that area. And so if you have vehicles that are going in and out of all those driveways, and you put a bus shelter at that location, if they can't move it far enough back from the road, We did. We were able to do that at Versailles over next to Subway, and it saved a lot. We were able to get on there. But for example, McDonald's there, it's a huge stop. We have a lot of ridership there. We would love to put a shuttle train, but there's no way for a vehicle coming out of McDonald's to be able to see past that shuttle train because we cannot get far enough back to the road. So I need to make sure that drivers also have safety, passengers have safety, and my drivers have safety. Yeah, and that location is one of them that's a great example of, I don't know, without getting more right-of-way to get in the back of that section, to be able to back it up. I don't know if there's anybody that would be able to do it at that location.

52:59 – 53:12Speaker 2

And I would say, just because we've been talking about safety, the same kind of way as me. We need to continue working on it. First, that's where we're at. That's where we're at. That's where we're at. Dying and we aren't getting it.

53:12 – 53:35Speaker 1

Just trying to fix this right now. And we even think about that when we're talking to people. When we always have the first day on the road, we always are telling them, hey, walk to a crosswalk. Because if that isn't happening at all, then they're going to jaywalk across to be able to get to those locations. Like, please. You see the little crosswalk. I know that's something that we're talking about. There's a street that's going down today. There's a street that's going down today.

53:35 – 53:51Speaker 2

There's a street that's going down today. There's a street that's going down today. There's a street that's going down today. There's a street that's going down today. There's a street that's going down today. There's a street that's going down today.

53:56 – 54:19Speaker 1

Yeah, that makes sense. Yes. So it's not about the number of bush hunters, as much as it's the number that have, like, right-hooking antlers. So they could partially give us some, and if they do that, I would have to back out the number of... You know, they haven't known to give us more. You know, it just kind of depends on what there's available in the federal pot.

54:20Speaker 2

Is there, sorry, follow-up question. Is there, like, a, is it, I feel like it's your level of which ones are more important for the city, others, like shelters, anything like that?

54:30 – 55:02Speaker 1

I don't know. Yeah, if I'm looking at them, obviously the Holmstreet quarter ones are probably going to wait a little bit except the Holmstreet 10th. We might be able to ask for the next fiscal year for that one. So those five could probably wait. The biggest ones I would say would be the Goodwill, Allenway, Staffordtown, and obviously the Pilgrim Western website. So, and that's just based off of the top five. We can also do this one because I'm going to put the safety things first and then we'll go with Ryerson. Okay. Thank you. You missed your money.

55:04 – 55:25Speaker 3

You know, one of the things, those shelters cost a lot of money. So if we do, you know what we'll do. They're a little over $11,000. It's worth the cash in the shelter. I love that one. I didn't mean to give you that one. I don't want to know what happened.

55:25Speaker 1

You're right. I mean, you can see it from the other side. So I have objections. 26, about 10 shelters. 10.

55:30Speaker 3

additional ones that interest rates to the south out of 129 and 36 is something that's correct.

55:39Speaker 1

That surprised me that we had roughly a quarter of multiple equations at some time. to sit down and visit. It just comes out the front door.

55:50Speaker 3

You know, it's about the beautiful, beautiful location downtown. And there's a location on the other side of the road.

55:56Speaker 1

And I'll say, anyways, you know, you're sitting here all in your jeans.

56:01 – 56:13Speaker 3

And there's nobody who can sit down. I understand you don't have the self-control. But he asked that eventually, if they could get the bench, or a hospital, this is the major hang-up line, to get a bench at one of sort of all of these locations.

56:15Speaker 1

You need every single bus stop to have some time before I do it. That's a lot of work.

56:20Speaker 3

We don't have to start there. We're about two more. How do we prioritize that? How much does it cost? What do we do?

56:28 – 57:21Speaker 1

I guess my question is, what do we do to make sure that more people don't cost a second? Yeah. I think what I would need to do is have an engineer that can go with me to see what spots can even be updated first. and then what type of update they can get, and then produce a list that we can start to make a wish list to say, ventures aren't that expensive. They're usually about $450 a piece. The cap underneath of it, honestly, is the biggest expense for it. So the main thing is just knowing what locations are feasible to put any of our beds for a shelter. And I would need help with that because I'm I'm not an engineer either. I guess that's a larger part of me, so it's not really.

57:21 – 57:53Speaker 3

I wouldn't be interested in letting you write money into whatever you first formed or something. There's a reasonable budget here that goes for the people who live on it. You can live here. And that's probably one of those things that makes sense. I think that's what I was meaning to say. I think it's more like a repeat. I think more like a repeat. I think that's what I was meaning to say.

57:53 – 58:11Speaker 1

And you know, it really can be. Absolutely. And if she's got three kids and you're trying to make sure they're sitting down and not trying to get into a busy road, absolutely. I think that's going to see where we need to look at. I get every thought to see what can be. Who's first? I think I'm second.

58:11 – 59:09Speaker 3

I think I'm second on that. I want to agree with you, though. It would be good to agree with the mayor that, you know, more basic Wasn't that going to go again? I mean, I'm telling you, sometimes, more than often, there's a positive, there's a negative. We didn't think of it. We didn't see it growing, especially when it comes to having driven this town for 25 years. I can almost tell you everywhere where I think someone puts drugs in or their beautification in it, A year later, the strong growth is getting peaceful. Now you can't see it at that intersection. So that's what I would caution you to do is make sure to take someone who has that information out. That's to make sure everyone's safe. I'm not sure if you're on this board, Ryan, but you can't see it.

59:10Speaker 1

I mean, it's something you need to have a reconsultant to come in and look at, you know, the false prospections of what can be upgraded.

59:22 – 59:48Speaker 2

Yeah, one thing I was going to sort of piggyback on, like, I'm not going to share much of this, but if we were to even put all of these shelters and, I don't know, if we were to use those stops, we might be thinking about maintenance, what that looks like, mediating around these patches. You know, that sort of made us to build that into the budget. So that's something that I'm always thinking about. As students, don't remove the thumbs for sale already.

59:48Speaker 1

Like, everyone is still for us. And so we'll find out how it's done. Yeah.

59:56 – 1:00:32Speaker 3

I may have brought this up before, and I don't remember. See, opportunity, ethical side of it. Ethical side of it. And ethical side of it. And ethical side of it. Businesses who think, you know, this bench must serve on this business. But the thinking there is that the people of this assumption, the people who are doing performance, the people that are using this, plus the maybe outlawed broker or target producer, because they're working very shallow there, with Target, Boston, Target branded, you know, the team will be funded by the Target company or something like that. Yes. Other cities do that.

1:00:33 – 1:01:35Speaker 1

Other cities do. However, I've already been working on an advertising policy for ourselves where we can make money off of these benches. to be able to offset some of our home costs. So I think if we make it where they're paid for the bench and then, in particular to you, they can now advertise for themselves for, I don't know, five years, 10 years, whatever, we're missing out on some funding that we could be receiving. We're now completely into our home where we don't have to wait for this match. We can use our home. And so that will give some proceeds that we get to be able to get these special use of benches for ourselves. So, you know, do we want to let somebody else be able to do it? Maybe that's one time to be able to do it. Now we are having an opportunity. Maybe, you know, we have this bench, which is amazing for a $450 bench. Or do we want to pay for a home for a $450 bench? If advertising costs a bit for however long we want to advertise for nothing. So that's part of the reason that I've been, I've had a lot of communities that have come to me and asked for it. And that kind of keeps them down until we kind of figure out what best we want to do.

1:01:36Speaker 3

When do you think we would be able to talk about the reporting?

1:01:42 – 1:02:09Speaker 1

I've given a draft of a policy because I think that's the first start that we need to have. We have a good inventory now of what display sizes there are. And I've also done a cost analysis of what other cities are getting for advertising. So it's just a matter of us kind of keeping that off the ground and really looking at it. But Jason and I have been working really closely on it and trying to kind of work in the background to bring something to you.

1:02:10 – 1:03:12Speaker 3

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. It's very similar. I don't know if you're familiar with it. Ball fields and football fields, when a bank fraudster will sign, they don't get their name on there forever. It's a contract that maybe they spend, I'm using role numbers here, $10,000 for three years, but after those three years, when they have money coming in, that they don't want to do that again. It's a way, actually, it's a way of, not like we're trying to make money, but it's a better way. It's for facilities and all of that, and so that is a great idea. I'm glad he's working on moving his offices. Because, I mean, college football's got a lot of things under uniform now, so that's all thanks to this fucking dude. Do you know Scott Lee? I don't know if he did.

1:03:12Speaker 1

That one's very open, too. That's where he was born.

1:03:15Speaker 1

He was born in that house. Yeah. That's where he was born. Yeah. That's where he worked as the chief there. That's where he worked. Yeah. So they're helping him with a lot of stuff as well. Yeah.

1:03:27 – 1:03:57Speaker 3

So, I don't know if there's a time frame or no, in terms of evaluating the locations, but I'm just going to hold it for some time. You're on the direction we're going, so thank you. The city residents are going to be working on the rest of the week, but most of the time, they're going to be working at the cost of a building. Basically, we're going to have our stars, our beaches, do it.

1:03:59 – 1:05:51Speaker 1

Another thing that you said, too, that I just thought about for benches and shelters is we are currently working with CTA to get a consultant to update our grounds. So I really feel like we're cleaning the enterprise a little bit on upgrading until we know exactly where these routes are going to go. We have outgrown our system. Since the end of COVID, we've gone 91% in our usage with only a 7% increase in cost. We were just nominated by CTA as one of the most efficient busing companies in the country. So we do need to make sure that we're looking at, if we are going to accommodate this growth, I see us probably trying to add at least two new routes. in the future. And we may have this new consultant, they say, you know, if we ran it the opposite direction, it may be more efficient. Well, now all of our bus structures we just put in are on the wrong side of the road. So I think looking at what we currently have is absolutely great. But I also think we need to look at, if we're going to have growth, what does that look like? And I don't want to put the cart before the horse, so. We don't have people. I do not. I mean, my associate is the Community Transition Association of America, and they did three services. We asked Marty to sign that for them to be able to work with us to give us their recommendations. So they've created a really great framework of what they believe a consultant should be looking at. And I do have the RFP. It's drafted. It's been sent to KYTC for their approval first. Once they get that, that will be submitted to Laura for her approval and, you know, all jars of tea. And then hopefully we'll be able to put that out there for them to get some thoughts and proposals.

1:05:51Speaker 3

So we're just going to get that done too.

1:05:58Speaker 1

That's great. That's great. We've met our mix with what we can accommodate.

1:06:06Speaker 3

No, you should. No, that's what we do. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

1:06:13Speaker 2

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

1:06:17Speaker 1

Thank you. Thank you.

1:06:20 – 1:06:34Speaker 3

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Good afternoon.

1:06:35 – 1:07:15Speaker 2

I'm just here to discuss the revenue tax rates for 2026. We are currently proposing a rate decrease from 19.5 cents to 18.8 cents per $100 of assessed value, and it's a great decrease of 0.6 cents per $100. It represents a 3.5 percent rate reduction across both real and personal property. This is based on property assessment growth over the last year from 1.14 to 2.1 billion, driven entirely by real property assessment increases.

1:07:16Speaker 1

Because assessment values increase citywide, lowering the tax rate protects taxpayers from absorbing that full impact of higher valuations while maintaining the full wealth of the city.

1:07:27Speaker 2

This is an increase projected revenue of $162,000. Any discussion?

1:07:38Speaker 3

Questions? Comments?

1:07:44 – 1:08:04Speaker 2

for anybody watching like me when I saw your videos. So explain, Eddie, can you break it down for me in terms of what does this look like to impact people in a large way? So if your value was $115,000 last year and it stayed $115,000 this year for the city, your tax rate will actually increase.

1:08:06Speaker 3

Perfect, thank you. The tax rate will actually increase, right?

1:08:20Speaker 2

And the first three will be, we'll see, so that I don't doubt that hearing will be subject to the current form of hearing.

1:08:29Speaker 3

And then the second three will be the first advertisement that's in the next second one. Well, it's usually October 12th, right?

1:08:36Speaker 2

Then I'm going to see.

1:08:38 – 1:09:08Speaker 3

So I'm going to see if I can use the fourth of May 4th, right? Like, if I can get it. Now, we typically are way behind on this. It's the city, and we're traveling. So that's why we didn't have to do a special call to get this passed. So we're trying to do this this year. They don't have anything to do with it. OK. Thanks for the question. Thank you. Just to clarify, the document that we have sent to the public area will be out by September 21st, right?

1:09:08 – 1:09:24Speaker 2

So I apologize for that. I sent earlier than we scheduled on your formal attendance. We tend to have some changes to the public area, which is why I brought it out. And then if people get it out, it will be September 21st. I will advertise that. I will be advertising the statement on this week. Oh, and it's going to be very, very open.

1:09:26Speaker 3

The guidelines we have on this one, if you have no less than seven days, you're better than 14. So you kind of have to have those in common.

1:09:36Speaker 1

And good luck.

1:09:44 – 1:10:34Speaker 2

So coming up soon on the agenda will be the downtown master plan and the parks master plan bond. It is a $12,035,000 obligation, which is already increased by $1,002,005,000, which is 30 years. This could be for any projects amongst the endow town parks, and that's for Plain Riverview, Poole, Indian Oaks. Those are both projects that the city needs. They can't be fluid, so it's a crucial change. It's a lands change. If we want to place priority on Riverview versus older parks or older parks or newer parks, the commission has authority to do so. It is fully payable by the insurance agreement tax. What's that law? Does it pay for that? And the insurance tax will sunset and no longer be paid on it.

1:10:38Speaker 3

What's the time frame on the resolution?

1:10:42 – 1:11:12Speaker 2

I believe October, we have our screening September 24th and second reading at the regular session in October. Just a quick question. We have approved the use of this funding as now for the Wheezy River, and I know we had talked about it, so I don't have a good answer. Do we have to discuss that in any way?

1:11:13Speaker 1

No, that was crazy, but...

1:11:20 – 1:11:35Speaker 3

they would do any of the steps that we're talking about. Yeah, absolutely. I don't know if that would actually make any sense at the time. But of course, we should be able to do it. I mean, we've got a lot of people doing it now.

1:11:35Speaker 3

Can I ask a question? That was my question. Although there's probably 35,000, how much of that have we already earmarked?

1:11:45 – 1:11:58Speaker 2

Right now, just 5 million of the master plans, but those master plans can't be implemented based at all. If you update that master plan, we will remove that in criteria 5 million towards meeting the conditions that are making the improvement for another project.

1:11:59 – 1:12:33Speaker 3

And you did say that you were going to reimburse the channel 5 million? Yes. Right. But then we found out in the early 2000s that we had to clarify our year mark specific project. And then we found out we only have two weeks. And we were probably over 480%. And we gave you all that permission to start. We put in the money, and anybody who wanted to measure it, they would move it over. And also under the sub-set, we'll just move it over. Thank you. We're on the first three.

1:12:35Speaker 1

It's up to you to vote. Yes.

1:12:37Speaker 3

Thank you. Thank you. All right, next we have, of course, this one. It's a little bit related. It's a little bit related to what you're going to play in the first.

1:12:54Speaker 1

We heard Deputy Judge Jack Hannity faint.

1:13:01 – 1:15:06Speaker 3

This is because he's visiting the city right now. The first thing we're going to talk about is the Forced Government Loan Agreement that's came to you all. This was something that the county had put in a fly out of the state and receive $20 million. And we're trying to get sewer out to the forks. In your agreement, they're asking for a $100,000 investment from the sewer department, they said sewer funds, to do the upgrades and bring it to Crest Plum Station. And then the last thing I have to mention would be the county's fiscal court's contribution. Financially, it would be $230,000, $340,000. That was one of the questions we had originally going about this front of you all. Overall, three points may be in our project. We have private funding. We're also looking into this at $400,000. This will give the sewer department additional grants. Another thing that the county has asked us to do as the current ordinance is to waive that administrative fee that goes to our general fund. This is what they're asking to waive. The other stuff goes to the sewer department will receive, initially, an estimated $115,000 and change in new grain payers. And as far as tag fees go, our first tag fees go up to $109,000 and change in tag fees. And we're going to the sewer department to get a budget. And like I said, all they're asking from us in this agreement is to waive that interest rate fee to the general fund. And I have a county, if you're interested in what I have on the county contribution up there, what they got on this project. Is that all I wanted to add to that? Well, I mean, it was just a reality. All I wanted to add to that too is that, you know, this is a really great project to protect one of the most precious natural resources that we have in this county, which is obviously fortunately important. So, you know, the feeling that we can kind of get folks on the line and, you know, And for a hundred dollars, that's quite a bit of a break, but better. So this is a great project for everybody. And we're always happy to be a partner with the city on the front of this like this. So that's why we're here.

1:15:10Speaker 2

Do you need to discuss the questions?

1:15:11Speaker 1

Commissioners?

1:15:13 – 1:15:30Speaker 3

I have a little charge on this. I'll never back away from where I was, but given the fact that I've talked to several folks about this, one in particular with the company, what engineering firm? H&B.

1:15:31 – 1:17:24Speaker 3

From OHM. OHM. I've talked to OHM. A little more clarification on this, and this was brought up almost right off the bat, I would say, in 2025, somewhere, because, I mean, what I have learned about our sewer way, I don't know everything, but I'm trying to make sure I learned a little bit about the productivity factor of our sewer that we need to be compensated for the work that city employees are doing. So, at the time, it didn't look like the county was investing in But right now it's obviously 238. I would be in favor of waiving that fee right now because this project had this in front of me, I would have put a whole lot clearer picture in front of it. So I would be in favor of that. It looks like, I mean, I know Chase went to our front end and paid a fee. Also, the 115 was, for all these reasons, sewer rate. So my thing is to make that whole and also work with the county, right? I think that's most important to show the quality. A lot of times I hear, we don't talk, we don't get along, we may not see eye to eye on things, right? I'm not saying you can't do this. I'm not saying you can't do this. I would never say that. But I do think this is a step forward in that direction to show the public game. Because in retrospect, you're right. We need to conserve that out there. There are customers that are super needs, right? They need the customers. It spreads out that liability forward. That's where I'm looking for it. But I think the other thing about this is it also gives us a good upgrade of one of our bus stations at this speed. And not only are our bus stations, but 3,000 to 4,000 are our bus stations. So we can get an upgrade of our bus station for $100,000.

1:17:24 – 1:17:45Speaker 2

Appreciate that. I was going to ask you to run those numbers over again for me. At $115,000, it might change from the way it is. Yes, I see. That's the default number. We'll go with the first year.

1:17:45 – 1:19:24Speaker 3

Yeah, and if this is with the first year, I don't have the numbers right, so I'm going to have to get my phone number. You know, so I can look at those. I'm going to do a change in the 109 change, which is the 10th. Which the 10th is also equivalent to the administrative fee that this is for church. Right. Okay. You can tell if he goes by the name Seward. I don't think these fees will go up and down in this department. We would be waiving any of the levels because the city would waive what goes into our fund as it works. It would be a lot of value change. Mr. Fogg, one of your commission members, is doing a huge investment. The 115 is recurring. It's a major extension. It's a major one-time. It's a major one-time. It's a little bit different. They have been thinking about waiving $25,000. I'm not sure you should be able to see where the ordinance should be. It's from our new ordinance. Okay, new ordinance. Is there anything else I see like next weekend that's administratively easier to pay to our airport? Okay. Okay. Okay. I think it's just going to be going up over here in the United States. Okay. How do you think it follows this? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. for your earnings, which is the support fund, and it's also something that we do. A lot of times, we can't really focus on the support fund as we should be, but we have two funds that we're able to get in business. And right now, it's in the department's office.

1:19:29 – 1:19:43Speaker 2

I will say, just to like add one, I'm sorry, I'll say it like real quick now, which we have, you know, the 115 is reoccurring every single year, correct? Correct. And then at some point, if things go well, we'll use it. Okay.

1:19:48Speaker 1

Well, thank you. Thank you.

1:19:50 – 1:22:15Speaker 3

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I think we'll have to keep working with the county here in this matter. But if you will, I'll get in touch with your folks. The second item, again, county. As you know, we don't work together. We always hear the producers say, well, we've been working together for a bit. But not all year long. We've been working on this for several years, counting different drafts. And we have a card draft we're working on. And the main purpose of this is to, for those that don't know, we're going to be 1991 was when the original agreement was in place. That's when that 75-25% victory in city house dispatch was go to and is due today. So, in 1991, we still operate the same exact way. So, we're trying to update that near local. The big part of it is the establishment of a board. that board would then be able to recommend certain things to each body over budgets. And I think working with the county on this, their biggest issue on our dispatch centers is not having to see the table. I think this board gives everyone an equal voice on the table and still gives both bodies the That one's been the city. The board doesn't have these specific powers. The bodies, the government bodies don't have these powers. We could have another draft. We could have gone through. We want to get this board established and, you know, as quick as possible and move forward on it. I have a few information that we've been working back and forth that the county still has to review and go through the committee. But I'm wondering if the one that we have out of the board is reviewing that I have. I don't want to put together three-year-olds approvals, but we need these discussions. We've got to keep it out there and do what we need to get this done. I think the county would work with us on this one. And I can speak to that. I don't know if I can speak for the whole county, but we're united. And I know you're going to speak for the whole community. But do you think that it is more for work? And this time, it's one of the great graceful things is that we've got a couple of months. As I said, we've got over the end of January, February, and we started our budget discusses in March. So if we can have both folks together meeting and coming up with some recommendations as we get into that budget cycle, I think we'll get a lot of water on the end of February, where the nation's going to have a lot of advice. So I think it'd be a good thing to get that for you. I think it would be very helpful.

1:22:18Speaker 1

questions for both of you. Thank you, Melissa.

1:22:21 – 1:23:03Speaker 2

I had actually three questions that you asked for, and I actually attended one of the talks, and I didn't mean to tell you. But I know, as far as Sebastian shared, I have a question for you. I don't know if it's natural. She had one of, I think, at club volumes and staffing levels where we were having this conversation. I don't decide to be very forthcoming right now because we're talking about establishing a committee over the patient references in order for them to have a whole conversation from now on. And to include, I would love to see when this debate forms, I want to see call times, call volumes, overtime, turn over, all that to be included in these conversations for future references.

1:23:03Speaker 1

So I just wanted to know.

1:23:05 – 1:26:15Speaker 3

Well, I actually agree with you because, you know, you hear things on the other side of the river about this and that. I think if we can get this board together, a lot of the information that we all receive is going to be much more on point. So, you know, again, in the same time, let's say that today we're all on the same language and we're all hearing the same things and things are out in the open. So, I don't know. I agree with you 100%. Okay. I really agree with Commissioner Smith-Willis, but here's something. I like this. I've never read this. I really like it. Here's all I can tell you about public safety. And I can speak to that. Public safety is an insurance policy. It's like your homeowner's. It's like a car insurance. You hope you never have to call for a fire. You hope you never have to call for an event. You hope you never have to call for that law enforcement official. What is imperative and not a one-on-one service is, you know, getting there to those people around the state. You know, Madison County had a huge issue with this not too long ago, but they're not being on the phone. If you follow that, I have the Northern City Manager of the high school with me. How this is going to prevent that from happening. That's so important. Call volume is, you know, when we, and I love it, this chair serves, once again, it's the city and the county. I mentioned this in the meeting. I attended one of the Bureau's public meetings, and I mentioned a board. I'm going to say this early on. It would be nice to have the city on one board, a couple of lines, you know, where I'm talking with county representatives and say, because you're best in the community. But I always am going to shy away from the following. Because in public safety, one meeting, it's, and I don't know, I don't know if this is me, I don't know if this is him, but I don't know. Because you can go from, like, call, call, call, call, and then this person, and then you can have a day where I call it the Saturdays, where it's just Saturday. nothing going on because I know this much. When I pick the phone up, I want someone there. No matter if I live in a county or city, if we're fortunate when it comes to all those entities, when it comes to fire, when it comes to law enforcement, when it comes to EMS, then our EMI is the essential one of you guys. We'll change back there. That is where it all starts. We have to have that. Without E911, you know, these public safety officials have nowhere to go. So I'm very excited about this, and I hope we can move forward in this formal way. We can work together. This is one of those times when you get in an argument and you just sit and And Jason, I think, you know, we're at that percent of time where things get exciting. And I've talked to some of the folks on this report, and I think they would agree with me. I think we're in a good area. I know I haven't spoke to all of them, but the ones I have spoken to, I think this is a no-brainer. But once I've spoken to them. We'd like to know what your thoughts are.

1:26:15Speaker 1

I think it's really cool.

1:26:16 – 1:26:37Speaker 2

I was going to say, I don't know why I didn't mean, like, call. I was really trying to, like, maintain that. I just remember as far as fashion, if you're watching this, I was like, I just remember saying that. I remember the conversation. It's very cool. Let's look at it like this. And so if it comes back to a collaboration, we'll just use that word. I want to make sure that we are reporting and we have bold facts and not just, like, pulling things from the sky.

1:26:37Speaker 1

That's all I'm going to say.

1:26:38Speaker 2

I appreciate it.

1:26:40 – 1:28:38Speaker 3

Well, I will entertain it to you. I'm just saying that every day, there's a day that I may work an eight-hour, ten-hour shift. I answer one call. And then there's a day that I work a ten-hour shift, and I didn't get much break. Maybe a half a week. So, you know, public safety is an insurance policy, and I am very proud of the public safety in Franklin and Frankfort altogether. You know, you're paying for that presence and you moping it. I don't want to call jail. I don't want to bring these money insurers. I don't want them to call me and tell me I'm a failure. Right? That's what I'm going to answer. But I want you to answer. And I want to know that my house is insured. Right? That's what I made in my car. So, again, it's an insurance. It's an insurance policy. Public safety. It's all together. But it's needed. This is what our country expects. And this, to me, is number one. Obviously, that's my background. But it is the job of both county and city governments to protect our communities. All right, this is doing it. I think that's the biggest victory ever in all of the front line on this stuff. See, you may have a core product for the Sheriff's Department, but a hundred percent of those rounds are not in our dispatch unit. That's what we're talking about. Yes, you're not in our dispatch unit. We're not talking about PDE or CFRK. We're talking about dispatch unit. That's what we're talking about. Like I said, we're running out of time. We're running out of time. We're running out of time. We're running out of time. We're running out of time. The other one we're going to do is two different things. We're talking about two different splits. And you're not going to call it on your district, but I think the board will be agreeing to it as soon as we see it. We're going to make a long-term agreement. We're going to appease him for this county. That's huge. That is huge, because we are the only one taking the city, the city and county, combining in a moment of appeasing. So that's huge for this area. We're going to lose it. No, sure.

1:28:38 – 1:28:51Speaker 2

Just a quick comment. Yeah, thank you for being here. I was pleased to see both of you had your own agenda. And I know while there are, you know, in draft four, it's just great to be on board and see that you've lived it so easily.

1:28:52Speaker 3

Yes, we are very, very appreciative.

1:28:54Speaker 1

You know, I'm going to be Carol's brother. And I think this is close. I'm not going to work here. Oh, okay. It was. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you.

1:29:03Speaker 3

Thank you so much for being here. And I hope I'll see you next time.

1:29:09 – 1:29:55Speaker 3

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So downtown amplified sound, music, discussion. We kind of struggled with what we call this at Friday's agenda setting meeting. The mayor was in there, but in much different directions. And I think we simplified kind of how to call this would be our cafe permit. The refan for cafe permit. Because once we read through all that, there are some things that could possibly just change in that ordinance that might fix what's going on downtown. I'd like to let Laura come in and talk about that. Sure.

1:29:56 – 1:32:49Speaker 1

So when we started looking into it, we understand that there's a dueling, competing of sales downtown. And it's, I think, more of a localized issue downtown than it is in other parts of the city. So the cafe permit solution makes sense. So what we're looking at right now, the cafe permit, in fact, we have a look at it. We're going to do eight years at a long time, so it needs to be done too. Now it just becomes what we want to actually do. There are small options we could just put in. Simply because the requirement that within the boundaries of their campaign permit, they're allowed to have this decibel within this distance of their actual storefront. So we did do something like that, and then enforcement would be the same as it is for any violations of the CAFE permit, but could lead to, you know, if they're violating the law enforcement, it could lead to just suspensions or revocation of the CAFE permit if it came to that. Some other ideas, and we're really just going to have to take a look, we're just going to start over, but some other ideas are potentially, you know, asking the business owners to come up with a coordinated schedule that's submitted with their campaign permit application. We don't want to be too cumbersome, so we're still trying to work through what that would look like. And then there's, of course, you know, just the scene itself, where we're making music on the side of this individual business, which we're starting to lead away from a little bit, because that truly could be a very difficult commercial project to undertake. So right now, I think we're thinking about the most likely scenario is to add new requirements, revisions. We're allowed to have this decimal, you know, these times that are allowed with the category component. And then that will make that revision of those requirements enforceable. And we can send our voice in when we receive the complaints. And you can send us a link to it if... they actually get a number of complaints that the county department can be provoked. That's kind of where we are at the earliest stages. Maybe we could have the ordinance ready by the September, but we are going to work a little bit with Eric and maybe Susie and then talking about what to do first before businesses and to actually address the issue. We also bring media into the conversation about enforcement.

1:32:49Speaker 3

How do you seize the form? What can we do to make it enforceable? Question number three.

1:32:56 – 1:33:08Speaker 2

Question number three. Question on the . 2018. The last one was. The last one was updated. There was so much new data. OK. A, the question number one.

1:33:08Speaker 3

OK. You can call these one. Sure. It's . We can get the answers. So you have to see the question number two.

1:33:18Speaker 2

And I guess this kind of.

1:33:20 – 1:33:41Speaker 1

this could be in future conversations. Like, as in the requirements, you know, I know we have a decimal limit, could be the wrong key, probably talked about that a long time ago, but, like, it's really, like, it's really, like, it's really, like, it's really, like, it's really, like, it's really, like, it's really, like, it's really, like, it's really, like, it's really,

1:33:42 – 1:34:17Speaker 2

So with this, you know, some of the able-bodied music, you know, I feel like it seems like it's been a disruption, you know, a thing that people have reached out with their concerns. So I guess in this conversation, how did you work with DFI and the businesses? Because I feel like... With all that going on, I want to say this is a disruption to how fully we work together. I have just maybe select days that we all do our own thing, which we all enjoy, but at a level that is respectful to the community, to the neighbors, and also that quality that we start to have who create a great song. What's going on in one of your activities?

1:34:18 – 1:34:54Speaker 3

Yeah, I've been on the phone with Susie quite a bit over this in the past few weeks. And we're going to pull her in as well, just so you can see if there is some way we can do that. They have a set schedule. Maybe it's when they apply for a cafe permit. They have to do this workday. They're going to be doing this. And they all kind of have to share those days on different days. And I think the mayor might have been one that said this, that we've created a great downtown atmosphere. And it's massive. We've created it. We can close it. Just because there's a lot of people. What do you think the scene's like right now? What do you think the scene's going to be like in the conversation? Thank you.

1:34:55 – 1:35:22Speaker 2

I appreciate all of that. Thank you for your goodness. I'm going to send out a call and reach out to you. I talked about it here while being on camera as well. So, yeah, and I was also wondering, you know, what else we could do, even with businesses that maybe don't have the cafe permit, but still, like, there might be issues with release for music. Do we need to also address the release ordinance in general?

1:35:23 – 1:35:38Speaker 3

Um, also, you know, I get a lot of, um, residents who live downtown, and I don't, I don't get most, because I, I mean, it feels like it's for the rentals, and it's, it's a lot of issues. So, it's, it's pretty bad.

1:35:39Speaker 1

Okay, so there's snow from, it's a lot of, uh,

1:35:44Speaker 3

So I'm telling the community about you, so you give me some knowledge base that I'm going to share with each of you. I don't want this point to have to bring you into the problem.

1:35:55Speaker 1

It's not a big concern.

1:35:55Speaker 3

We're all wishing you the best of your time. But let me tell you, we've got enough components in the building to sell it. Maybe I'm going to leave it at that. I don't want you guys to get in trouble.

1:36:05Speaker 1

Our other businesses are affected by it.

1:36:07 – 1:37:07Speaker 3

Now, you have a right to do things in your business, which we learned about today, about doing things in your business. And that's where you're going to be. So far, we are the only one who knows how to do anything internally. So we can, at some point, say, yes, this, that, that, and so on. And definitely, the rights of the young and the smaller. And we're trying to improve ourselves. So that's why this was on the agenda. And I appreciate what Martin's talking to you about. I think that will be important. I don't know if we need to overthink it. I mean, we haven't always heard it since the beginning. You're in a good, convenient way. You did your part. I mean, I realize that it's hard to have a good department. I don't know what to say about it. But one of the things that people have to be sure of when stopping means that they should stop doing what you're doing. And it doesn't require us to measure in decimals, because I'm just not afraid of that. Just whatever it is, you can just lay out and do whatever you want.

1:37:08Speaker 2

But they are just enforcing that.

1:37:10Speaker 3

And then, while we're also revisiting the county and county, and hopefully, in the meantime, they can work it out and say, okay, we're going to do it all.

1:37:20Speaker 1

Okay. And then I'm sorry.

1:37:25 – 1:37:58Speaker 3

I think also the 50-foot noise orders, there's a 20-foot disruption in the not getting good noise in the cafe and crematoriums. They're almost contradicting speech. Can you bring it up back to, you know, the noise orders, and it can be reintroduced again? Yeah. It was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun. So when you brought it up, and, uh, I don't know, did you, did you have to wait? Yeah. Yeah, it was a lot of fun. It was like, I don't know, I don't know if you talked about it, but it was a lot of fun. I don't know if you talked about it, but it was a lot of fun. I don't even remember that. It was very vague.

1:37:58Speaker 2

It was Chief, uh, Chief, uh, Chief here. They were like, this way, this way, this way.

1:38:01 – 1:39:14Speaker 3

I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, have adjudicated in the bank about things you haven't been curious to know. Because the problem, we may look at something, and Gloria, you can attest to this, we may look at it, we've created a future, but you and I both know when it's adjudicated, it's looked at. I'll give you an example. It's sort of like a state laws that are created. Sometimes when their legislature creates them, they don't make things all the way through. And then you get a ruling on that, on that particular law, and it has to be the sense of the president. So that's going to make sure I'm going to go with the way you're handling it. We have a law enforcement out here. I want to handle this much of it again and make sure we're creating the right environment to do it all. And that's what we need to come from.

1:39:14 – 1:39:59Speaker 1

So what's your opinion? Do you think that potentially tying into a campaign permit could be helpful to the police? Because it will just be another requirement of a campaign permit, and nobody wants to use their campaign permits. And that's what we're thinking about trying to do. But we will go and look at the noise ordinance. I just want to point out again that, yeah, it is the noise ordinance. And any noise ordinance is very difficult to measure over summer. But we will take a look. We will compare the two and try to come up with a way to work with the place that everyone wants to come up. That makes so much sense. And we'll have the most impact.

1:40:04 – 1:40:39Speaker 2

So I was just going to say, yeah, I'm not doing that at April or to anybody else. I think we have much more fun things to talk about up here. But in terms of like, I just think that, you know, in terms of accountability, we go out and we just use these ordinances and just go ahead and hash them out. And if this is one solution that kind of makes sense, I'll know. So I'm actually like, let's just, let's look at it. Let's streamline it. Let's face it. And then we'll have to push that through because this is. It's not that I think it's so good. I think it's a sign. It is. It's not so good, but I think it's a sign.

1:40:39 – 1:41:34Speaker 3

I think it's a sign. I think it's a sign. I think it's a sign. I think it's a sign. I think it's a sign. I think it's a sign. I think it's a sign. I think it's a sign. Second, on the Bureau of Barriers and Training, Action Item No. 7, an Authorizing Resolution for 20.7 State Revolving Loan for $2,000,000 to fund Bureau of Flood Station Removal and Bureau of Sanitary and Pump Station Super Department. Staff record makes the Authorization or Authorizing Resolution to proceed with a 20.7 State Revolving Loan for $10,000,000 to fund Bureau of Flood Station Removal and Bureau of Sanitary and Pump Station and to authorize the Barriers to sign an R.A. with documents. If there are any questions on this, I'll continue. What's your favorite function? What do you want to do something with that rabbit? What do you want to do something with that rabbit? What do you want to do something with that rabbit? What do you want to do something with that rabbit? What do you want to do something with that rabbit? What do you want to do something with that rabbit?

1:41:34Speaker 1

What do you want to do something with that rabbit?

1:41:36Speaker 3

What do you want to do something with that rabbit? What do you want to do something with that rabbit? What do you want to do something with that rabbit?

1:41:43Speaker 1

So the agreement was pulled.

1:41:47 – 1:43:22Speaker 3

We had to do points of funding. That's a very good position, originally. Since they were already a bunch of major designers, we made that as team. that's been without most of what we had already incurred for its own excuses. This loan will help repay what wasn't paid, plus allow us to open up additional funds, plus save up for the 22% for channels. So just watch this out. 22% is pretty much it. That program did not reappear. It's not available. It's not available. It cost a lot of since we got it as well. And so we had to, when they reinstated it, we had to tell them we thought we were going to quit funding. move forward with it, we didn't leave all the funding on our side, on the city side, to complete the project because the cost of the project we got was too much. So, we released that fund, but we didn't have, with last month being, we all agreed just to go with it, and we were all on the same boat. So, we're hoping to do it, 2028, to go after the breakdown of this grant funding. considered a good station. Even though the project is important in the entire development of the system, we're just getting our attention to the point we're starting to make. That's it. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Yes.

1:43:26Speaker 2

Yes. Yes. Yes.

1:43:28Speaker 1

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

1:43:39 – 1:43:50Speaker 3

Instead, it is recommended that the authorized resolution to proceed with my consent and state your volume alone for 1.2 million if your bill wants an interior sewer separation authorized in the area 7, under the indictment. Thank you, Mr. President.

1:43:50Speaker 2

The problem, on my side, is that I'm the first to hear something like that. That's the question. I see.

1:43:57 – 1:44:46Speaker 3

This is a very simple point for you to make, Mr. President. So that's what we got in the middle of the state, $40 million in bonds and grants. That's what we got in the middle of the state, $40 million in bonds and grants. That's what we got in the middle of the state, $40 million in bonds and grants. That's what we got in the middle of the state, $40 million in bonds and grants. That's what we got in the middle of the state, $40 million in bonds and grants. That's what we got in the middle of the state, $40 million in bonds and grants. That's what we got in the middle of the state, $40 million in bonds and grants. That's what we got in the middle of the state, $40 million in bonds and grants. That's what we got in the middle of the state, $40 million in bonds and grants. That's what we got in the middle of the state, $40 million in bonds and grants. That's what we got in the middle of the state, $40 million in bonds and grants. That's what complete this project, a little bit more project than we personally thought would fit. Do you have anything to say? I mean, there's so many projects that we have. This will help the

1:44:48Speaker 1

So we're going to look at it from our data as well.

1:44:50 – 1:45:18Speaker 3

So the life proportion we need to get a lot of the stormwater out of that water system. So we're going to look at it from our data as well. So we're going to look at it from our data as well. Our pump station in the area is the second in the new range. That's the second pump station that pumps for us in the hospital. Very well. And that's the importance of getting that tall motor off of that system. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

1:45:19 – 1:45:34Speaker 3

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

1:45:36 – 1:46:06Speaker 3

Thank you. Oh, yes. Yes, that motion carries. Thank you. Next item, fire department rescue truck replacement and refurbishment. Second, request authorization to purchase and refurbish a huge fire engine with fire rescue structures. Third, rental amount of fire and range for a total cost of $500,000, amount to rise in the area to set out an R.E.U. documents. These fields have R.E.U. listed. This account must be due for pre-release under the Department of Rescue. Second.

1:46:15 – 1:46:26Speaker 2

So, to me, this sounded like Doug Wicker. She, not necessarily, but in maybe a cheaper way of putting it, was Congress or the department.

1:46:26 – 1:48:58Speaker 3

Yeah, so, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. year and a half ago. With regard to the entire year-to-year average, we're about 140 bills. That's what we did, ground up bills. First of all, we're looking at that 90,000-some-million starting 21-day promise like that. And in our daytime audit bill, I think we're 17 of these numbers, saying that it's a 17-month bill time. I think that's the only concern. So you're probably looking longer than that beginning on. what the infrastructure needs, what their safety times and everything will look like. So that in mind, in our current rescue lines, we have a lot of service right now since March of this year. Before that, it was a revolving bullet with it. We can't push it and so forth. We need a small truck. We're using it at that time. But through our last five years of our rescue capabilities, we've had the same department experience so much that we're trying to stuff stuff on their truck. It doesn't go on. It overweighs our capacity. capabilities, which kind of flow into some of more of its mechanical failures that we're destroying. So from that, I'm glad it's clear we're in the past. We're looking for this future to blow this out. And you just kind of refer, Brad, with these members of this department, myself included, chief in class of the next five to six months. I've been looking at what those options were out there. We've been everywhere from Alabama to New York looking at the diesel trucks on the fit R&D in our department. Settling on this model at Randall, one of the big things I know is that we're looking at the numbers on the C-32 dashboard and trying to figure this out. just going to look at this on a piece of paper, right, and understanding the science that comes with it. If you look at our current bill, our new bill is in, just to speak like you can't talk a little bit, the L-line engine that we have in a lot of our trucks right now currently has a great, great, consistent issue with engine four is outrun now for its second motor of this L-line version. So this lesson, that was from 2000. 15 is when that started being put in fire trucks and so forth. So our goal is was to find something free that time period, a motor that is consistently viable, being in parts, we know how it works, that they're always comfortable working on it. To get back to that time frame when we can purchase something that we're going to get in the next 15 to 20 years on it without knowing issues with anything that's between that time frame and the time process and all of the issues that won't benefit us.

1:49:01Speaker 2

I like to have a different name. That is not the way to do it, Richard.

1:49:05Speaker 3

But your answer might work for us.

1:49:07Speaker 1

We are interested in taking money from staff who, you know, who is new.

1:49:14 – 1:49:43Speaker 3

We've heard this stuff before. And we're trying to struggle with that. Yeah, I mean, if you're not going to ask those questions, I'm not going to tell you that. So I'm not going to let it happen. You can see this for all of me. We may get in on as long as this goes through. If we get here, I think it's going to be a trouble. We're not doing it for a moment. It's definitely going to be a challenge for the next 20 years. I mean, we've referred Paul in the time he spent down at Bramble, St. Paul, and Crescent, to what we do with an offer. We've already started getting some more future loans.

1:49:43Speaker 1

I've referred to some of them. I've just done a few of them.

1:49:45 – 1:51:16Speaker 3

So I think it's definitely going to be a flag-holder for the city. We have referred to the board of trustees as a franchise. So, we have referred to the board of trustees as a franchise. You know, you said the commissioner made a public statement when you brought this up. That's right. We had this a week or two ago. But, again, it's not like we're cars made today. I mean, I'm just using cars. They were out there. They were years ago. I would love to make a team. you're going to like this, but I'll let you go back to the 87-70s and grease that I had. I had a carburetor. It ran a little bit at some times, but it was a very reliable car. So the old Ford brand things, the 90s and 91s, they weren't made. they are today. But the biggest thing on this truck in Hawaii is I love the fact that we're saving a lot of money. That's always a good thing. But the other thing is I don't want our public to have to face, in certain places, 72 months. That's a long time to not have a piece of equipment, even if we're waiting on something new. So I appreciate it. I applaud your efforts. And we do have a warranty, my friend. You know, I mean, it's a bumper-to-bumper warranty. I mean, I like their things. So I'm going to point that out. And I'm going to report that to our warranty team. Yes. I'm going to report that to our warranty team. Yes. I'm going to report that to our warranty team. Yes. I'm going to report that to our warranty team. Yes. I'm going to report that to our warranty team. Yes. I'm going to report that to our warranty team. Yes. I'm going to report that to our warranty team. Yes. I'm going to report that to our warranty team. Yes. I'm going to report that to our warranty team. Yes. I'm going to report that to our warranty team.

1:51:16Speaker 1

Yes. I'm going to report that to our warranty team. Yes.

1:51:18Speaker 3

I'm going to report that to our warranty team.

1:51:19Speaker 1

Yes. I'm going to report that to our warranty team.

1:51:21Speaker 3

Yes. I'm going to report that to our warranty team. Yes. I'm going to report that to our warranty team.

1:51:24 – 1:51:40Speaker 3

I'm going to report that to our warranty team. Yes. I'm going to report that Yes. Yes.

1:51:41Speaker 1

Yes. Yes. Yes.

1:51:48 – 1:52:21Speaker 1

In ordinance 15, the rate of taxation for the year 2026 on real and tangible property subject to tax, both service companies for living, and tax for all city purposes, sort of establishes the 2026 age rate for that whole tax rate at 18.8% on each $100 valuation. call real or personal property 18 and 18 and 10 cents on each $100 valuation on public utilities and public service companies taxable on a franchise basis.

1:52:23Speaker 3

Any discussion with the purser? No. I shall remember that the other purser is a non-sponsor.

1:52:37 – 1:52:57Speaker 1

An ordinance fixing the rate of taxation for the year 2027 on all motor vehicles, clinics, and tax policy purposes. This ordinance fixes the rate of taxation for the year 2027 at the sum of 22 and 7 tenths of each $100 valuation on all motor vehicles subject to taxation in the city.

1:52:59 – 1:53:23Speaker 3

Any discussion? Seeing none, I'd say the back's not up, so we can opt into the next agenda. It looks like possibly a couple things will go up on the readings. First reading, we heard about the harm. That's the issue. A couple of second readings on the poverty taxes. Maybe it runs through the commissioners.

1:53:23Speaker 1

I'm just going to agree with it. Thanks. Is there something else we need to report?

1:53:40Speaker 2

But, uh, well, that's kind of silly. So, we're going to try to complete it.

1:53:46 – 1:54:33Speaker 3

We'll be, we'll be, we'll be, we'll be, we'll be, we'll be, we'll be, we'll be, we'll be, we'll be, we'll be, we'll be, we'll be, we'll be, we'll be, we'll be, we'll be, we'll be, I was like, we're gonna put it down. It's all the same. It's all the same. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

1:54:34 – 1:54:56Speaker 2

Well, I don't have to work, but Japan has a little bit of a fantastic day. So I want to thank everybody that attended that. I don't know if I'm going to lose out, so I'm going to go ahead and thank everybody that participated. So you can go ahead and have a seat if you want to. Thank you. I want to remind you that I'm a homebody, so you don't have to stop us if you're going to visit to our sister city.

1:54:56Speaker 3

That's right.

1:54:57Speaker 1

And our only part of the trip is to our sister city, so you can just leave.

1:55:03Speaker 3

Thanks again. I don't know if this is a question for the city attorney, but I don't think we're going to be able to do it.

1:55:12 – 1:55:47Speaker 1

But I just want to see if you can kind of say how involved this is. So is that something that we need to be looking at versus other volunteer organizations? It is largely in the Incantation Project. I believe a citizen who has seen it all, but there may be, you know, I can't remember unless someone really looked into it. we actually took action to open it up and realize that we should not do more of that. Is there anything that the city needs to do in that regard to make this encouraged to do more of what we're doing?

1:55:48 – 1:57:18Speaker 3

We can easily take a look and say, there's something wrong with this meeting. I mean, you're probably going to ask. We'd like to get involved in something like that. So I think it's a good opportunity to do the job. picking up, working on the follow-ups, so that they actually have two new offenses being put on those. We haven't come up with any control concepts yet, but I'd say so. There's a lot of good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good. I had never been to that. It was awesome. Those that don't I was going to get too wrapped up in the negative comments, but we offer a lot. And that festival was very, very busy down there with a lot of people. I don't even think there were enough food. There was a huge event. The line was a block or two long for some of the athletes. And it was supposed to be very quiet. That's one thing that I think makes our community and our town I love it, so I'd like to see more of it. It's fun. It was very fun. I heard a lot just by watching some of the videos that I saw.

1:57:18Speaker 2

I mean, a lot is community kids, community kids, child kids, friends, kids.

1:57:24Speaker 3

So it would be a really good time to give the kids a chance to share some conversations with them. Do you appreciate jazz?

1:57:31Speaker 1

Yes. I've been with jazz for a long time.

1:57:33 – 1:57:45Speaker 3

I've been with jazz for a long time. I've been with jazz for a long time. I've been with jazz for a long time. So I hope to, I'm pretty sure it's going to be great.

1:57:46 – 1:58:17Speaker 2

So that's it. I was going to say, I also want to shout out that as well as kids, it was all kind of legal. I was speaking out of my kiddo's first time kind of walking to school. And I just really enjoyed seeing the cheerleaders and the local player team. And I know that it's in walking little kids to class. Maybe each also has a little player. I was like, I wish I was going to go to grade. So I was also interested. But I just wanted to try this whole system for, you know, You'll break the frame. Down, down, the brain, all over the train. So I just wanted to touch on that. That's it.

1:58:17 – 1:58:34Speaker 3

I'm sorry to interrupt, but the video is recording. So I'm just going to try to be ready. And then I'll take a picture. And then we're going to do that. Thank you. Thank you so much. I'm going to turn this off. I'm going to turn it off. Thank you.

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